Latest / Sooner or Later Sports / Live: Experts Believe The Oklahoma Sooners WILL Improve Next Year | Who's The NEXT DC? (S2 E61)

Transcript

Live: Experts Believe The Oklahoma Sooners WILL Improve Next Year | Who's The NEXT DC? (S2 E61) · Sooner or Later Sports

• 0:15
  Speaker 1: We're back. It's been a while since week on Live,
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: so we gotta like to talk about here on the
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Sooner or Later Sports Show. Thank out for pulling up.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: I am your host, Jay. Thanks pulling up here on
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: the YouTube channel and listening wherever podcasts or download and
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: listen to while you're here. Please wipe your feet like, subscribe,
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: rate review, give us five stars. You don't think we
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: deserve it, go ahead and give us those five anyway
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: and gifted. So on today's episode of The Sooner or
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: Later Sports Show, We've got some fun stuff to talk about,
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: like Paul fine Baum is talking bad about us, while
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: we also got to talk about our quarterback what does
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: things look like in an outlook for twenty twenty five season.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: We'll also just hang out and answer questions around recruiting
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: and transfer portal and all that good jazz. So it's
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: been a bit since I seen y'all. I miss you.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: What is going on? Ladies and gentlemen? What is going on?
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: So miss you? Like I said, white people, hit the like,
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: subscribe and all that jazz. Before we get diving, Coop
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: is out for a bit, he should be. He may
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: try to jump on his a little bit later, he
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: got a baby that's not feeling too hot, and so
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: you know, the the bug is floating around. I need
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: y'all to get some understanding. Please not only wipe your feet,
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: please make sure that you wash your hands. Things of
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: getting bananas out here in these streets. Also shout out
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: to you know, my the hometown squad here in Okay.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: See the thunder thunder up. They beating the dog out
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: of the uh the calfs. They're they're, they're, they're getting
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: a revenge from the last matchup. And he ain't got
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: the big men playing. But no, I'm gonn talking about that.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: Shout out to our partners over there at bet Us.
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: They're hooking everybody up one hundred and fifty percent bonus
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: on the first deposit up to two thousand dollars by
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: using promo code YouTube one fifty so on that. Yeah,
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: some changes are gonna be coming to the channels very soon,
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm making adjustments a lot more than a lot
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: earlier than I anticipated. But we've seen substantial growth. Eighteen
• 2:33
  Speaker 1: thousand subs and by the end of this recording we
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: could be at eighteen thousand, two hundred. Thank you. Shout
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: out to you all for joining us.
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: The the.
• 2:49
  Speaker 1: Change we're gonna see here is probably a slight channel
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: name change with similar focus is what we've been doing.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: Wanna put all of the sooner or later sports stuff,
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: keep it here main channel. The other channel that we
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: had sooner or later sports going on, that one will
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: be changed. We're gonna bring all the recruiting and stuff
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: back to this when this is gonna maintain focus on
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: ou SEC stuff, college football and general stuff. We're gonna
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: make that the major focus here and keep it that
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: way and bring recruiting back into this channel. The other
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: channel we're gonna probably you know, transition that when into
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: more of a pro talk, some thunder basketball talk, some
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: NFL kind of mix it up with some of the
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: top stories there. So I think that will be a
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: lot more fun having it all on one spot. So
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: this be the last live stream you'll see or sooner
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: or later over there. I think I'm gonna move that
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: logo to this channel, so to be sooner or later
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: sports with me and with me and Coop. So it's
• 3:47
  Speaker 1: gonna be a great time. So I appreciate y'all for
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: riding with us. We're gonna try to make some of
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: the best content possible for you all. That way you
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: all can totally enjoy. Yeah, I'm a little late, had
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: some technical difficulties. I just got back in town, so
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get back my wheels going back and
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: no corrections. Definitely did not hit the transfer portal. I'm
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: not hitting the portal. I have my teams. I got
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: my teams that I love, so Sooners. I'm a season
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: ticket holder, so just let me tell y'all that if
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: you'll see me talking about other teams in sports, but
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: I got season tickets in Oklahoma, so let's keep it there.
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: But the one I want to dive into is as
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: an opener is Paul Finebaum had some things to say
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: about the Sooners, which I thought was super fascinating that
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: he has already chimed in before and I saw over
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: there on the Fine Bam Show and it's been floating
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: around the social media. Is that fine Baum had things
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: to say and this is kind of what he led
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: with as they could be undefeated headed into Dallas, which
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: fine on things, we have a chance for it. Think
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: they're going to have a much better year. By the way,
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: if they don't, preventables will be gone because he can't
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: survive another bad year. That's the simple quote. Talked about
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: a few other things, but he is one correct. I
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: know a lot of you don't want to hear the
• 5:19
  Speaker 1: hopium come from your boy. Y'all don't want to hear
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: the excitement that I have to say here, But I'm
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you now, twenty twenty five should be better
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: than last year. Barring injury. That was our biggest problem
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: is that we had a substantial amount is all the
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: injuries you had on the front line, O, line, wide
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: receiver on the offensive side of the ball, while also
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: having two extremely green quarterbacks recipe for disaster. Unfortunately, we
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: had to deal with that last season. And the good
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: thing is is that we are. We still into a
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: bowl game. That's the thing that still surprises me. I'm
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: keeping it buck. When you have all of that stuff
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: lining up bad, you're not supposed to finish at six
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: and six and go to a bowl game. Should not,
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: because regardless of your blue chip ratios and how many
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: good players you have on your team, when you're young,
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: that ish, that ish is hard. Young players, they got
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: to still adjusted the game.
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: A lot of them learn quickly at just how fast
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: the game moves and they're like, oh, yeah, this was
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: not what I anticipated. I've actually I remember talking to
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: a couple players here there. Heck, I remember Richie Pearson
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: chatted with him, you know once before on the channel.
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: He mentioned going to when he went to Wisconsin and
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: they were learning the the Rex Ryan defense that it was.
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: He was like, as a lot fast than I thought. Now,
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: you adapt quickly, especially when you're talented enough, you will,
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: but it's it's still a lot more. It's a lot
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: tougher than people anticipate. And I think for a lot
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: of the players being tossed in there the one conference,
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: you definitely don't want to start with a whole bunch
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: of young freshmen and red shirt freshmen's it's in the SEC.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: That's where you're dealing with NFL caliber defensive coordinators, NFL
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: caliber coaches there to find a way, and a lot
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: of the dudes end up in the NFL, regardless of
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: the school. Mississippi State s AND's a lot of peoples
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. You'd be surprised, Oh, miss same thing.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: Vanderbilt got some dudes in the league. They all send them.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: So it happens so for me as you all are
• 7:42
  Speaker 1: hoping nine and three is about where I'm I'm pushing
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: between that intended too. We have the opportunity because like
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: last year, we're seeing a bunch of young quarterbacks, whereas
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: this year we're not the ones bringing in the young one.
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: We gotta do. That's a veteran thank you for pulling up.
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: Hit the light button, new to the channel, subscribe, great review,
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: give us five shot to beat us the hooking up
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: the game one hundred fifty cent bonus in the first
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: positive two thousand dollars by using promo code YouTube one fifty.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: So when I say that talking about the guy himself,
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: the man of myth, the legend, John Mattier, who is
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: now the starting quarterback at Oklahoma. Now all the articles
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: are being written right now. We'll talk DC in just
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: a moment. I know that is the big question a
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: lot of people have, is what the heck is going
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: on at defensive coordinator. There has been some news coming
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: down the line. I'm gonna tell you what I heard.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: I've been given permission to speak on what I've heard
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit as well, so I can tell you
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: some things, just not everything. But we are as this
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: is pointed out. We are the State of Alabama champions
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: because we owned both teams. Thank god. We need we
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: needed something moral victory here right after last season. But
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: the defense was good, top ten finished and efficiency top
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: top you know, top forty in total defense and raw numbers.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: When you bring in and take out garbage time from
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: you know, team winning him, you know, winning some of
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: those games, those numbers shrink. The team finished seventh and
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: defense efficiency over at ESPN. BV had himself a much
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: much much better defense, and we saw the improvement we
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: hired him for the problem is is that he made
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: the mistake on the offensive side with the hiring, and
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: then you got zach Ally Leavin and I'll explain that
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: in a second. But John Mateer bringing coming in with
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator. I don't think people understand how much
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: of a major game changer that is. That is what
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: it is. Teufer s speaking out too loud right now, Taufer,
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: keep that up, keep that quiet, thunder right now, cooking Cleveland.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: So we don't even have to talk about them yet.
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about them on another day, probably going with
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: PG on his thunder Up podcast and we'll talk more
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: detail on that. So PG fire up the cameras, let's
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: dive into that. But bringing in a quarterback like John Matteer,
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: we've been our buckle. And there's another component to this
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: that I saw. It was a I think it was
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: Stoya that posted this, but Jacob Jordan had a quote
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: about working with the new offensive coordinat and everything that
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: made me go all snap. This should even be even
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: better for us going forward. You bring in ben our buckle,
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: you know Wes Texas kid reminds everybody of the last
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: coach that we had here. Yes, for some it does.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: But his offenses are built in those innovative ways, and
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: he even talked about himself. His offenses are very multiple.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: He's not out here just doing just doing the air raid.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: He's switching it up from air raid to you know,
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: West Coast, to run heavy, whatever it is that needs
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: to be done to win the game. His offenses is
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: focused on, well, you get him in and then you
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: bring in the quarterback, one of the quarterbacks that was
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: very successful in the system. I actually was watching how
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: to Buddy shoot me some. He had some access to
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: all twenty two film and he shot me some stuff
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: of cam Ward running the offense and Ken Ward was
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: cooking out there at Washington State before he left and
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: went to Miami. Then you bring in John Mattier, who
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: did what Kim Ward did, but he added another component
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: to the game that can Ward didn't do. He ran
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: the ball a lot. And I'm gonna say it. I'm
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: gonna get give you the comparison for Geometerer that I have.
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: Hear me out when I tell you this. Some of
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: y'all gonna think I'm crazy, some of y'all gonna laugh
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: at me. I don't care at this point. I'm gonna
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: tell y'all who I think Geometerier could be. Jalen Hurts.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: He can be Jalen Hurts two point uh. Similar game set,
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: more of a more of a strong runner, more power less,
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: really finesse like you got out of a Kyler Murray
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: who was just boom boom shaking bake, you you know,
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: or Caleb who was pure athleticism. I've seen it like
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: crazy all around that people have been pulling up the
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: Baker make feel mock siness, mainly because he's a white
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: dude six ' one and some change and he's tough
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: as nails. Totally get that comparison. I don't see Baker
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: out of them. I see Hurts. I see Jalen Hurts
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: with an arm, Jalen Hurts with better touch, back shoulders, drops,
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: not as much of a power runner, but a better passer.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: That's what I see, because I know that we had
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: our complaints about Hurts and the way he threw the
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: ball when he was here, but Hurts still was completeing
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: like crazy, Like Hurts was still putting some passes in
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: spots where you're like wow, That's what I see is
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: my comparison. And like I said, hurts college stats were
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: not terrible here, They're really good. They were really good.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: But Hurts also came out there pulling up his career stats.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Now he also ran for like, what was that a
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: thousand yards? When he was here, he completed sixty nine
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: percent of his passes for thirty eight hundred yards thirty
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Then he ran for twelve hundred yards almost
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards and also ran for twenty touchdowns, So
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: sixty nine percent completion percentage were good. Passing material is
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: similar to that. That's where I saw the comparison. Y'all
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: catch my drift. You smell what Jay is cooking there
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: That's why I say Hurts because everybody wants to call Baker.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Baker didn't run as much as what MATERIR does and
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: as our you know, resident Washington State fan, pray for you,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: my boy, sorry about that, he says. Trust me, MATERII
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: is also a he will will teams to win. Yeah,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: that's what we're barring injury. Knock on those woods. Everything
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: about this dude's game is built like that. Last year,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: thirty one hundred yards passing on sixty four percent completion.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: We hat that improved twenty nine touchdowns. Last year hertsed
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: thirty two. He had twenty nine. He ran for eight
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six yards and fifteen touchdowns. Where Hurts
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: ran for twelve hundred yards were almost thirteen hundred and
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns. Similar game setup. And right now they're doing
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: the kids are back in school, so obviously this is
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: measurable time. This is where everybody's getting their training again.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I've been seeing stuff posted on social media like crazy
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: about some of this stuff. Everybody's talking about how vocal
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: John material is. So that's where this comes here. More
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: of a Baker attitude. He's in taste from Texas. Little Elm.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: So you get the little Elm attitude dude that was overlooked,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: chip on the shoulder that wants to prove everybody wrong.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: You get that out of Ma Tear. I'd say great one.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Hurts the better arm baker, similar attitude, personality, similar type
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: of moxy. And this is the probably the big one.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Look at thank you prime time vari Hurts didn't turn
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the ball over much. Hurts was really careful with the ball.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: He had eight picks, so yeah, less than double digital interceptions,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: not something that you get very often. And yeah, Hurts
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: did a really good job of taking care of the ball,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: something that we need if we eliminate most you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: last season in turnovers we finished even Steve across the
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: board in margins z rode to zero side because we
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: fumbled so darn much. Last year. We didn't throw very
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: many interceptions, mainly because we didn't throw the ball very much.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: But we throw very many interceptions, but we fumbled the
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: ball a lot, mainly at quarterback. Tier doesn't do that
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: text the ball holds on to it. He has that game. Now.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Hurts did fumble some, he didn't fumble a lot, though
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: he didn't turn the ball over a lot those years.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: That is the key thing, Jimmy. But you raise a
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: valid point. He did. But my point here in what
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: my argument here today is that, and that's also probably
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: a difference when I think this is actually a good one.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Boomer went to nine points is out hurts. Also, like
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: trucking people, you know, squad six hundred pounds right now.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I heard a videobody talking about Materi in one play
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: and they mentioned like six squats six hundred. Like he
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: didn't squat six hundred. He probably did. I may look
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: like a fool I saying that, but I do know
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that he was high numbers when it came to the squats.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: The man was bawling out like crazy when it came
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: to that. And so we've got to talk a little
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: bit more on that. But a guy you got to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: bring in somebody else talk through this. He looks healthy
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: and he looks good. We got Coop in the house. Coop,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: let me grab my let me grab my air pod.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: So I don't have feedback. What's going on? Brother?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: It's all good? Well, I say it's all good with you. Yeah,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I know, I mean we are we're battling over here.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Uh got got got a couple of cases of the sicko.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: So I understand, keep it, keep it christing. So if
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: it looks like I look terrible, I felt terrible. So
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: but you know what, but you look great.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Hey, listen, beautiful thing, beautiful special.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I wish I could believe you. But but yeah, it's
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: been Yeah, the little the little one man she is
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: she's really got it rough. And then uh, the other
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: guy he's uh, he's he never really feels terrific. So
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: he's just like man another day.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but look at you being an elite, an elite
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: playing pops, which is beautiful. You continue to get yourself
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: and them healthy on a regular basis. But hey, let's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: talk about this. Mentioned about Fine Bob a little bit earlier.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to be better. And I had
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to point out the reason with because this was actually
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: an article that ESPN did. This writer Tom Logan, Bill right,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the best Transferportal QB fits and their destinations. Who's number one? Coop?
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: You tell me who is number one?
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm assuming since it's ESPN and it's Logan, Bill
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: is probably gonna be Carson Back It's not, is it materir.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: It's Matier Number one on the list of best fits,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and the reason being, and I'm telling y'all what he said.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going to read tous. I think it's ESPN plus
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: or it probably is. It is I don't really care
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: when Oklahoma hired washing this state offensive coordinator, being our
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Bucal tim second Mateers moved to Oklahoma seemed to make two.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: But since he knows the offense, he has played at
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: high level, and we'll see the return of some of
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma's injury targets. At wide receiver, you'll get Dion Burk's back,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: You'll get Jay Gibson. Tier is a very tough player
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: to rush because he gets the ball out of his
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: hands fast. He also has a alid runner who can
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: get out of trouble and extend plays. But he will
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: be like another coach on the field as he helps
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: tutor the personnel around him. Having a coach and a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: play college trust combined with the experienced quarterback could be
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the magic needed as soon as Oklahoma to get back
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: on track in twenty twenty five. Cool, that's the suitor
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: magic we're looking for. Is it's quarterback and an offensive
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: coordinator that are in harmony and that we've seen actually
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: produce results together. Yeah, I mean, I know you're shocked
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that they gave us love. I know you shocked. It's okay,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: it's okay.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Well it's not even like giving us love because I
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: think at this point, like we're going to be going
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: into this year basically feeling almost exactly the same as
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: we were going to be feeling coming into this year.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Is if our offensive line hold holds up. We got
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: some decent, talented wide receiver. Now we've got some proof
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: of concept that quarterback. You know, you saw Jackson Arnold
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: in a throw here, a throw there. But you know, Materears,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: you know, got this complete year under him. He's he's
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: played underneath a less than stellar offensive line. I mean
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: he was sacked thirty one times. Uh, you know that
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: can't all be on the offensive line. Some of that's
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: holding the ball too long. But I mean, listen, dude
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: bawled out. I mean it was who who was the
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: one that had all gas no breaks? It was that
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Texas a few years ago.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what that's that's the Sarkegian. Okay, they're still going.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: With right now, like but then they had something new
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: this year. So I guess when you come up with
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: your own thing and you're looking for it. You don't
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: have like play like a champion today like for decades.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: You just come up in something new every couple couple
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: of months. So but I'm not gonna slam Texas this year,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I promise, but no, but no. But seriously, like it's
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: just realizing because I mean, like you have any type
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: of offensive pulse you beat Missouri, you have, you know,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: anything of consistent offensive pulse, you potentially you know, knock
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: out you know ole miss too. And it's an you know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: it's an eight and four team, and we feel really
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: really different about this. We've looked at we looked at
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: how many times wide receivers are running by themselves going
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: hey and Jackson's doing the wrong thing behind the line
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: of scrimmage. So I just I just believe this is
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: You've got a proven concept coming in with our buckle.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: You've got his quarterback, he's got essentially more talent around
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: him than he had at Washington State. This defense, if
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: it's just kind of like stays on par this year,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: You've got again six new starting quarterbacks with new teams,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: whether a freshman transfer, portal whatever going into next year.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: So like yeah. I mean if you look around and
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: think that the smart people who look around and just
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: say like, well, the defense we expect to be good again,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: and we expect the offense just to hold up its
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: own at least. You know, at that point, people are
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: going to say like, hey, don't you know because it
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: is old, mis going to be just completely loaded like
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: they were this year. You know, I don't think necessarily
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: that you can count on that. I think Tennessee doesn't
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: look as daunting as they did coming into this year.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: So the SEC is going to be wide open again
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: next year. Jay, And and you know, it's kind of
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: crazy that we get here and then all of a
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: sudden it's like it's the set. You know, the second year,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: you're not going to have an SEC team, you know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: win the title. And I don't know if there's an
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: SEC team going into next year that you're like, let's
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: put the money on them because they're going to look good. So,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I mean it's good for college football. A lot of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: people worried that the SEC was going to be super,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: super heavy, but a lot of stuff are up for grabs.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Nunbercent agree, And that's gonna be the fun part.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Is where we're We're gonna break this down Sunday. That's
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. Sunday. We're going to preview super
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: early preview because it'd be the perfect Sunday to do that.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: It'll be right before I go on vacation. We're gonna
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: go and break down the schedule at a super early
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: rate and dive into that. Bad Boy and I talked
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: about this earlier though, Coop that that's the thing that's
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: going around right now. You know, first off, shout out
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: to our partners a bad us to hooking up the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: gamers one hundred fift percent bonus on the first to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: positive two thousand dollars one hundred and twenty five percent
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: bonus on your second and third while using promo code
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: YouTube one fifty. That testing is going on this week.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: People are out there getting their test in. Players are
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: in so they're going through the workout stuff. We saw
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: a video of Schmidty talking to the guys as they're
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: going through all the workouts. You saw you got a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: little bit of a preview a material running right. You
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: got them, you know, kind of got him got them going,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: which is kind of funny. But the names that have
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: been flying around social media. Coop. There's been three names
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that I've been hearing and seeing floating around. I've been
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: seeing Matiere very much. I've been seeing Elijah Thomas from
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Dakota in which we talked about him alien. Oh, everybody's saying, hey, kids,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: an alien.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: He ain't. He's if a lot of people. When you
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: think back to it's not the D. D. Westbrook and
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown or Ceedee Lamb that Elijah Thomas is. He
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: harkens back to Ryan Broyle's uh to uh, you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: to you Mark Clayton, that type of that type of
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: wide receiver, you know, Sterling Shepherd, who is still you know,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: still playing like that's That's who he reminds me of.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: He's just got his body, his his his body control
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: is elite. His focus while running, there's there's a difference,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: like we've all played backyard football when your head's going like,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: you know, bouncing back and forth like that and it
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: looks like, you know, Armageddon's happening around you. You know,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Like you watch him run, he's just so fluid. And
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: here's the thing is like he sees things people just
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: don't see. He sees angles really really funny whether it's
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: running or the ball. I mean, he's gonna make some
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: plays and they're gonna rewind it and you're gonna it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: not gonna be like Cee Lamb's like one handed catch
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: that wasn't the catch where you'res like that's just ridiculously dirty.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Like there's gonna be stuff where he like snatches the
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: ball between you know, like a defender's arms or something,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: and you're just be like, how did he do that?
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Like those are the things that he's really really adept at.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been seeing I've been seeing the the let's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: put it this way. The one thing that one place
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that we had concerns what was gonna wire he was
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: gonna look like because I've heard I've seen you on
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the comments don't get it twisted, don't play. I've seen
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of y'all in the comments. I've seen y'all
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: over here as well as locked on sooners you know,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: should go sub there. I've seen y'all on the social
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: media's hollering at us and stuff saying, hey, what's going
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: on with these wide receivers? Going forward to portal? And
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I kept telling y'all over and over got some guys
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: that I think are actually solid very much. First, you
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: brought in Elijah Thomas as a true freshman. He may
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: be one that actually can step up and get some
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: game early. I think he's the he's gonna be the
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: one that's gonna be the hardest keep off the field.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: I think many Choice has some refinement, but he's got
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the side that he's measurables and he actually is living
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: up to the hype of his size and measurables. You
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: still got Ivan carry on as well as Zion Kearney
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: who had the best up ankle and still was balling out.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Got that touchdown. Cool from there, the transfers in Josiah
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Martin's young. That's a good thing, so he'll be able
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to add to the young players. You're also going to
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: see from him to Giovanni Gibson, Yeah he heard if
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: he's testing very well, very well.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Jay, remember going into the season this, I mean we're
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: sitting here in the summer, you know, this past year,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: and I said, what's crazy to think about is like
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: the most athletic talent is found in the backups in
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: like the three D. Like that's kind of where like
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the recruiting got away from and we forgot about it
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: under Lincoln Riley and now like BV has brought it
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: back now listen testing and all that mess and hype
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: and you know the conversation during talk season which started
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago and goes until last week
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: of August, like everybody is going to look like a
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: freak ive and carry on. At some point somebody is
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: going to say on some podcasts he's going to have
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: a thousand yards at some point. Elijah Thomas is going
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: to be Freshman All American. At some point, Kip Lewis
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: is going to be, you know, a butt kiss finalist,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: like this is this is the talk. So with all
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: that being said, it's good to be excited about some
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: of these guys, Like you made the comment about Josiah Martin,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: like that's that's that's one of the wins that you
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: kind of forget about. You also had tons and tons
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: of guys like uh uh, Trent Wilson in you know,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: practicing with the team for the bowl game, like that's
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: that's kind of a big deal. You have fo j
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: and Fasusi, which are out apparently just doing you know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: big lineman type things that the camps that they're at
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: and then showing out. So yeah, carry on.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: It's I've been taking some classes, so don't don't be
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: getting be talking about me. Let me roll my hert anyway.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I gotta have it.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Naturally, if I get called out on it, I won't
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: be able to do it. But but no, it's it's
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: we're just getting to that spot because I mean, like
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: how many guys that we kind of just I mean,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: like I keep on forgetting about Danny Okoye, Like I
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: like when I'm looking through these lists and I'm and
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I'm starting to think about guys, you know, the second
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: year in the program, like does Akin Komi, does a
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: guy like Asosa, you know our boy Isaiah try Dent,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Like do these guys all of a sudden become a
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: little bit more vocal and start pressing some of these
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: younger kids because listen, I mean, you're still a leader
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: and you until someone takes your spot, you're still the
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: champ and you got to play that way because uh
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: uh fasusis coming for somebody's spot, and so is uh
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: love it. So it's houling back. I mean, every single
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: one of these guys are gonna come in thinking that
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: like we could do something crazy because you know they're
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: having those talks in their side texts. Uh you know, uh, strings.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, one hundred percent, they're they're they're trying to take jobs.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: We just saw Darius Avalava in a video going against
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: kJ Ford, which I thought that was pretty huge. We're
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: also going out there kJ Ford, so you get yourself
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: to players that you know, get to see each other.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: But the question in here that's been asked too, There's
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: been a couple of questions in here, a couple of statements.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna come in and call through. We'll talk about
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. We'll wrap the show up with that, because,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: like I said, I'm gonna tell y'all what i've heard
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and I've getting I've gotten permission to speak upon but
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I'll mention that in a minute. But there was one
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: one in here around offensive line, and Coop, you pointed
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: out exactly where my offensive line concerns aren't as big. Now,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: bring in two top ten offensive tackles in the country. Two,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: not one, but two, because our biggest problem last year
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: was tackle play. Logan Howland was a converted tackle from
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: tight end, so he was still learning. So that that's
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: why he didn't looked.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: As polished and still and he's.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Getting he had his games, He's had a game here
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: and there where you like, okay, but he's not as polished.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: From him to you had to play Spencer Brown a
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: lot more than you probably wanted to. I know, I know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I know, don't shoot me, but you had to all
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: because you're dealing with a bunch of injuries and young players,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: very young. But Fasusi and Foge walks in at the
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: size and ability that you think you can start day one.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: They probably could still the job, but I don't. They don't,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: they won't, but they can't. Yeah, Sexton and Taylor played
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: really good when they were healthy. Your interior was shifted
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: when you had Hatchet to come in with due to injury.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: You go through three different centers. That stuff hurts, but
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Troy Everett, knock on Wood comes back solid O. Zeida
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: will have an opportunity because I think he'll be good.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Epl has a year on of his belt. Now you
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: can you can unleash the beast and I think Waywoo
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: after one year with beating Bow, it's gonna look dramatically
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: different next year. Think about the way McKay Matower did.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: McKay looked. Everybody y'all was like, I'm out on his dude.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Nobody wanted Nobody wanted him on the field around them.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Everybody was out on him, Jason the field. Nobody wanted
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: him up above. I mean, you could get a Doctor
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Seuss book full of uh, you know, wacky. Nobody wanted
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: him anywhere near the field. And then when he's getting
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: tossed out of the stadium, he became a fan freaking favorite,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: you know, and all of a sudden, everybody's like, only crap,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: he's our best offensive lineman.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Everybody wish you could have came back another year. I'll
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: say that people would have loved to have him last year.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: A lot of people would love to have him back.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: But that's what I see got away woom. But I
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: think he can elevate that. I think he has a
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: better skill sett in comparison. He just needs to get
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: used to the way beating Bow does things and really
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: get the sets down. But our buckle system slows it down.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: From there, that offensive line goes back three deep of
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: actual people with experience. Then that's when you get to
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the freshman transfers come in. But Klinko's gonna play mostly
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: interior most likely, and you got Simmons to play some outside.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: But you got experience something you ain't had. That to
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: me is where you see a your current players will
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: probably be a lot more healthier than they were last year.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna see who bunch of freak
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: accidents as much not gonna whip. So you do that,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: and you give him material just enough time because he
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: does get rid of the bolled really quick. I like said,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I've watched some of his Dollar twenty two from a
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: friend of mine that sent me, and I'm just like,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: oh wow, and.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Glad that you said that too, Jay, Because let's be honest,
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter who we rolled out there at quarterback
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: this year. Do you think that any of either of
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: those guys had a very, very very confident plan of
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: action when the play call came in or do you
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: think it was just let's see what this where this
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: takes me? You know, you're that thing with Matier being
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: a little bit of an older guy, a guy who
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: had a successful season this past year, had some tutelage
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: of the year before, but you're sticking with him. Is
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: when a play call comes in like he's going to
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: be calling that play, and you got to think that
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: like in order, you know, read one, read two, read three,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: he's looking at receivers and like he knows what's going on,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: and then when the defense shows him something, he's going
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: to have. Now, is it going to be fat this year? Sure,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: but like that's gonna be the difference, is it? You know,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: the offensive line isn't going to be out there just
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: holding up while some guy is running around trying to
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: decide what the hell is going on around him, Like
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: they're gonna be holding up while Materier knows where he's
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: gonna go. He knows he's gonna have a little bit
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: better of an internal clock, so he's gonna be able
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: to get out and move around. And that I think
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: that's where people are starting to kind of realize that, Like, yeah,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: with Jackson Arnold, all you had was a turnover prone
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: bowl game where he kind of wasn't set up for success,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: and then he had the same stuff. This is the
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: difference between Nico and Jackson going into this year. Nico had,
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: you know, just a EH bowl game, and all of
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: a sudden he had hype. Jackson threw some turnovers in there,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden he had a turnover problem,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: which turned out to be true.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: So yep, so a lot of that stuff we can
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: clear up. I think you'd be a lot better. That's
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: that's the most important thing, is you got to clean
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: up a lot of that stuff. Uh, turnovers and all
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: of that. But yeah, it's if he comes in and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: just balls the way that we need where we find Yeah,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: that's what the difference maker is. As long as he
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: just has a competent offensive. Look with the way this
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: defense played last year, and the defense is gonna better
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: Guys ready to We're ready to bang that druma already?
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah I am. It's been consistent in the Preventables era
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: of coaching defenses that always go up and we bring back.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it sucks to lose Stutsman. Sucks to lose Billy.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I think the young bulls right behind him are ready period.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Stutsman was just just freaking yeah. Stutsman was just yeah,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss him because yeah, and he cared on
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: top of being talented, that's what's gonna get him being drafted.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Like there's that and I say this is I think
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: early in the year, we're going to miss some of
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: the some of the big plays that Billy Bowman just
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: was known for up around the line of scrimmage. I
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: think that we're going to miss a couple of those things.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: As R. SJ. And Peyton get stuff kind of ironed
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: out and get each other a feel, I do think
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: that we have a better chance to be more elite
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: at safety by the end of the season than we
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: were this year. But but yeah, I mean, if we're
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: ready to bang the drum, I'll just be this when
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: when Marvin Jones Junior picked us, I was like, all right, well,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: let's see what Let's see what happens. I'm you know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I talked to some Florida State guys and then I
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: think that some conversations that gave and Teddy apparently had
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: the guys. I'm just saying it with if that guy
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: really has figured it out, if he's matured and now
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: he's in a he's you know, he's kind of a
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: all chips to the middle, let's uh, you know, let's
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: go all in, you know, just like DV is like, guys,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I'm I think I'm there too. I think I'm there
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: on this defense being better. If this defense is just
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: what it was this year, I'm still it could be better.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: It could be better because you know, you got some
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: of the freaks coming up with Nigel and Danny and Gilmore.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: You've got those guys coming in. You've got some of
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: these younger these younger kids like olmos Sego, he's ready
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: to make his turn, He's ready to make his play.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Kip and Kobe. Kobe could have just a silly year,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I mean an absolute silly year. So I mean there's
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: a lot of there's a lot of positive that could happen.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: And on the defense, you know, I don't think that
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: I would overstate that, but being better than you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: there's chances better next year. Jay, I'm I'm there, yep, yep.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: And the the the chat has already engaged in the
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: deep lore of of d c UH searching, and we'll
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: talk about that in just a second. But to kind
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: of point out what you what you said, which is
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: literally the thing to keep in mind here that this
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: is why the defense will be better. The offense is
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: going to be able to, you know, take some of
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: that time that the defense provides them. You don't fumble
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: five seconds after forcing a fund with the five yard line,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: you probably win the game against Tennessee.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: And and Jay, I'm just saying from Tennessee on at
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: what point did the did the either the the opposite
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: the opposing team's offense or defense feel like their whole
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: playbook wasn't at their disposal, Like when you get up
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: and get a lead and you know that you can
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: put some pressure and put some people behind and you
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: take away one side of the ball because they got
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: to play faster, Like we didn't have any of those benefits.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: So not only does the offense just turn around and
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: putting the defense back on the field, the other team's
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: offense literally could just operate freely every single game because
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: they weren't playing from behind. You know, they had the
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: whole playbook at their disposals. So I mean that's going
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: to help out the defense too. And also the like
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I said, the baseball analogy of you know, there's a difference.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: There's guys that can go out and they can throw
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty one pitches in eight innings and
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: they're ready to roll and it's great. And then there's
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: some guys who they may go out their next outing
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: and have to come out after eighty nine. It's not
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: the fact that there was one hundred and twenty one
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: the week before anything. It's the high stress plays. It's
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: the high stress pitches. And so with in a football
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: perspective is when the defense can't let anything happen every
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: single time that they're out there, that is, it takes
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: more out of them, It takes more emotionally, it takes
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: more physically out of the defense. So you don't get
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: to really just play freely. You're always playing under pressure
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: and under stress when the offense literally has zero, you know,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: assistance to offer.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's right. And you know Billy Benson points
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: out pass defense wasn't good, Brothers ranked in the hundreds
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: last year. No, it didn't. Last season. The defense was
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: ranked forty third in raw numbers. It was forty third
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: in the country. I'm looking at it right now, number
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: forty three in college football. Was Oklahoma average given up
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: two hundred three yards per game in passing. It wasn't
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: ranked in the hundreds.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: And you know, I did the stats a few weeks back.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: We held everybody, I think it was all but two
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: teams at or below their season average as far as
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: points per game everybody on the schedule, and Alabama obviously
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: significantly under. There were a couple of those teams. I
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: think LSU was right there in South Carolina. So I mean, like, and.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at all these ranks right now. So when
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: it comes to everything just passing, see passing yards rank, pulling,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it's up on the beta ranks and stuff.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Now, defense was very good.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: So defense, the passing was not as strong as the
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: run efficiency wise, it wasn't as high as the run.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: The run efficiency I think was number two in the country. Yeah, well,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I mean or finished top five once you add all
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: in these you know, these additional playoff games and stuff
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: because they asked to the statistics and stuff. But I digress.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and ranked high. And I mean like last year
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: when Iowa had this super daunting defense, what did they
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: play was at Penn State or Ohio State and they
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: just literally got the crap and kicked out of them, like,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: you know, something to zero thirty five to zero or whatever.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: And then they go to play Tennessee. And I think
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: it's about the same exact situation in the bowl game,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: is you know, they actually when they played anybody with
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: anything resembling an offense. They didn't hold up. Well. You know,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: this defense held us in every single game. I mean
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: we were in every single game LSU and maybe Texas
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: the only two well South Carolina. I mean that that
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: doesn't even count as a game, really doesn't. But that
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: wasn't the defense's fault. That was the offense. Offense handed
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: handed the defense to twenty one point deficit and said, yeah,
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: zero zero is better than negative twenty one, isn't it right?
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And good thing for us is we talk about
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: all shout to the Thunder win one hundred thirty four
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: to one fourteen without either of their big men. They
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: went out there and got the dubs. Shout to the Thunder.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Got that w you go ahead and close that window.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: As I told people, that's gonna happen. That's all right,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: get that getting revenge against the cast. So now it's
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: one in one. Love it man. I need to go
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: finish up and get the number one seed overall so
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: they can own the playoffs. Anyway, back to the defense,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: as we're growing, they got pulling up at the light
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: button newt to the channece subscribe rate review, give us
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: five one last thing on uh and uh Less posted this.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I saw you when you posted first time. I had
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: to actually check mark. I'm gonna point this out from
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: all the testing or whatnot you all saw. Jerry Cannick
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: posted a jersey of number twelve for the Denver Broncos
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Vacantic deleted it like a butthole boy. It sounds like
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: his Cannick is playing everywhere. They're gonna they're gonna put
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: his athleticism to work. I saw somebody posted on social
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: media that they think that he's gonna be playing some
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: offense and defense, which I get hope it's true. Let's ride,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: put that speed to or put that ten five one
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: hundred meter runner out there and do something stupid.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, I got I got no problem with it. You
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: sure as hell I ain't doing much at linebacker and that.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I want you.
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: That's love, with all due respects. I mean, listen it.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to not play the position and
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: then go to maybe the one individual who asks more
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: out of any linebacker than any other, you know, any
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: other defensive mind. But but I mean, let's just be honest.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Kannick is he takes that mantle of you know, comedic relief,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: very very well, and he loves being a little troll
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: and now he's doing it solo.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. And he cares. I think that's
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: one thing I like to point out to everybody. As
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: you can tell, he truly cares about being good in
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: some capacity. But he could do some crazy stuff. We're
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: gonna see. He's he's the problem for him is is
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that he's super fast, and he just goes and makes
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: really really really really really fast mistakes. He'll get better.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: It may take him the last year for it to
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: click fully and he dominates. You're like, where's this up
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: in this whole time? Hey, not everybody can catch these
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: defenses and make it happen as easily as early and
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: athleticism sometimes just outweighs them. But anyway, let's talk about
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: this real coolfoy wrap up. It's how about these defensive
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: coordinators spots? I bet you ask looking up the gamer
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: one hundred fifty percent bonus first the positive two thousand
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: dollars by using promo code YouTube one fifty coop. I've
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: seen three or four articles already come out. I've seen
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: the whole chat talk about it. I've also seen the
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: opposition talk about it. I'm gonna tell you what I've
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: been told, had permission to actually say this. Do not
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: sleep on the gym nos smoke. That's all they said.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I was out to say, mainly because it has been
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: mentioned in the chat. The rumors are floating around. He
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: still has family here aka a fiance supposedly some people
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: know who they are so at his age, and he
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: decides that he wants to come back to the state's possibility.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: When he left and went to Ohio State two years ago,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: there was no opening here. He's still in Okloma State.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: He took the job at Ohio State instead. Privtables was hired,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: and at that point, you know, you figured was gonna,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: you know, do his thing, but we'll see if anything.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I thought it was wild just to see two articles
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: go out coop like dang and I don't even know
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: if he's even Honestly, it's funny because I think the
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: one thing that I've been seeing people say about this
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: is he's going after it because of an opportunity to
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: be a head coach or he's trying to get that bag.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I do not believe either one of those two are
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: it because the one thing, though we know I put
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: this way, things go a little haywire, a little weird.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: You have him and Ben Arbuckle. I don't think that
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: it goes weird. I don't think it goes because defensively,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: him and BV are similar. BV likes to run a
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: multiple d You've seen him shift from just three three
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: five into four two fives on a regular basis with
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: the Cheetah bearfronts. You've seen him do a lot of
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: different stuff. Nose is similar. The other name that's still
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: being constantly brought up, of course, is Wes Goodwin. I
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: have heard there is smoke there as well. There cause
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I put this way, what Clemson just recently did made
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: me say, Okay, this is probably really really real. And
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: this is why I said the smoke is is legitimate
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: on the nose portion of it. Clemson someone I can't
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: forget who it was. They put out a tweet about
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Allen leaving Penn State. Tim Allend leaving Penn State to
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: go to Clemson coop when he went there basically said
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: that this dude's only gonna be defensive coordinator. He ain't
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: got a recruit yep stash jobs do all the recruiting
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: for him, but that is also because of the new
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: NCAA rule.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: That allows for.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Them to have more coaches on staff. So when I
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: tell you that, I'm telling you that because you know,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: trying to deflect a hot or anything. No telling you
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: now because cool. That makes sense to me. If you
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: got a staff that's bringing in really good defensive talent
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that's shown that they can play really good defense, it
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: gets a lot of teams and all you need to
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: do it's come in there and coach them. You wouldn't
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: pass on that, you wouldn't take avantage of the opportunity.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, that's that's why Nick Saban's no
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: longer there. It's not about coaching football anymore. Now there
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: is just this enormous thing.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: So but how do you get that money to make
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: it happen? Will you get money to make it happen?
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: I I would say this within reason, Like within reason,
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: money won't be the issue here. Like if he asks
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: for something like five million dollars a year, yeah, that's
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: that's that's not that's not a logical number. And but
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: I think that there there is a conversation happening right
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: now between those two. I still think that the Clemson
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: uh that Wes is still in the kind of in
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: the in the spot, and so is so is BVS
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: just calling stuff and the elevation of I think that
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of things are on the on the on
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: the field. I also think that it's u I mean,
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: it's up to the defensive coordinator and it's up to
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Jim Knowles whether he wants to say to his agent, Hey,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: let's go ahead and start having open conversations and let's
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: get this thing out in the news and make it
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: a distraction going into National championship game. Mm hmm, or
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: let's let's let's keep smoke smoke for right now. So
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: I would say this, if everything I just put it
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: this way, if this thing is legitimately real, just for
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: everybody out there, then it will be extremely quick. Remember
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: how fast Lincoln Riley was going. It'll be kind of
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: like that. If if this thing is has been really real.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Basically on Tuesday one is most likely when you were here,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: it'd be done if it's if it's truly happening, Chuck,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: you asked a question what happened to his own position coaches.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: He didn't bring a single coach with him to Ohio State.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: I don't think he did.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Those do were all there. He came in as a
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: linebacker coach with Larry Nidas, who's the main linebacker coach there.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: All of those coaches there on that defense, if I'm correct,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: was all Ohio State guys. They were already there with
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: you know right, they made maybe one of two adjustments.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Larry Johnson.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Larry Johnson's been there forever the godfather, which please retire.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I love you, Larry. I don't know an amazing man.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I just need you to retire, come south and be
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: an analyst and.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: That would be amazing, right. It'd be warmer weather, we got,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: you know, we got nice people. Coop would definitely get
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: you into some great spots. Larry Johnson, you should come
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: on down here and be an analyst and just you know,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: have your retirement.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Gig hey, listen, do that.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: But on that question, though, Chuck, if he's coming to
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: run the defense, what what does he need to do.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: You don't need to bring position people. He didn't bring position.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: He didn't move position people around when he was at
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State in Ohio State either. That's kind of my point.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: He's just one of those dudes that walks into the
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: architects defense and say boom and make this thing happen.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: And that allows BV to be able to focus on
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: game management because we've seen those capabilities already. Know he
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: could be trusted focus on game management, organized and everything
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: makes sure things works out, take care of the team.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Ben's gonna be doing the offense that way. Knock on
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: wood second time is the charm when it comes to
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: having somebody be able to do that. I mean, Levy
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't god awful, but all y'all begged for him back
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: after you want to have gone see kind of we
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: learned a very quick lesson there right Ah, there he
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: goes toe for a good point. He brought his safety
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: coach with him, That's what it was. I couldn't remember
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: which one, because he coaches linebackers. Lara Nise also coached
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the linebackers, and he's been there forever. He's been there
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: for the last couple of years. That's how we lost
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Peyton Pierce. Hilaria Knights is that good of a coach
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: like beloved beloved and had him at one point too.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his alma mater too, and so I mean
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: it's Ayden, I mean it would be like Teddy Layman
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: being a really really good linebackers coach here.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep. So it would be nice if he because
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: he was a grad suit, he was a grad assistant
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: and is in uh he played, you know, yeah, he
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: was an Ohio State grad. He was a grad assistant
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: starting Notre Dame, went to Ohio State and has been
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: eating when it comes to that. So yeah, just saying
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: uh yeah, you makes you go back to the rewatch.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: We did talk about Cannick and the position change, but
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I'll say.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: This, playing quarterback now, he's gonna play everywhere.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: We're gonna make him do it all. He's actually a
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: really good quarterback ish back in his high school.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Days though, Taysom Hill I saw somebody he.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Takes some hill basically is exactly what you're getting out
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: of He's like to take some hill, tye, dude. But
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: he's good. He's good athletic as hell. You just got
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: to get him to you know, clothes. But yeah, I
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: don't think that there is a situation where he needs
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: to bring any staff with them, unless we can go
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: find a way to steal one of these coaches. I'm
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: gonna know how State staff real quick. I would love
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: to get my hands on. And there's just no shade
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: for our guys. Tim Walton. Tim was with the NFL
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: before he came to college in twenty twenty two. I mean,
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: if he would like, totally can But at the same time,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: I think that for Tim though Tim Walton to leave,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: he'd have to get a defensive coordinator spot. Yeah, because
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: he was deeper coordinator at Miami and Memphis before he
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: went to the NFL. And he was actually DC over
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: there with the Saint Louis Rams back when they existed.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: It feels like a long time ago, right, Yeah, but
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: it wasn't.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: That long ago, Saint Louis Rams and what is about that?
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: I want to go down that rabbit hole. But Tim
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Walton ain't leaveing it. He probably could end up being
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: there DC in Ohio State. Dudes, they guess we get
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: coaches on the side of the ball. My point is
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: light a cigar up smoke is legitimately there. We'll see
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: what happens.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my bad Walton, Tim Walton, Tim Walton.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: He's the ASLIC assistant head coach and secondary cornerbacks coach.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Their safety coach Matt Goody, uh Gerri Gery. I had
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: the good content Terry right right, he came he came
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: to Ohio State twenty twenty four, but he's in Indiana
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: and Ohio State before, so I don't know if he
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: actually came in with he can come from Oklahoma State,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: So I don't know so far. I about to look
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: this up. I'm going to go through all these coaches
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: down figure out on defense in the heck coach somewhere else.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: But Larry Johnson is dude himself, the man, the dude
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: planning to dude. We need, we need Larry Johnson to retire.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: He'd go ten years old, stayed all those edges in Lineman.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: He's head good lord.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Well, what you need is uh, you need uh DJ
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Terry to go. You know, maybe go in the fourth
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: or fifth rounds, get on a team and you know,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: have some good buzz about him, you know, going in,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: get get some good buzz, and then next year that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: draft Dom Williams and then all of a sudden you
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: start to train with probably Jaden Stone, and you know, listen,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: we can have baits right back up there again. But
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have to do it, and it's gonna have
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: to crawl, because I mean, it's we haven't since since
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Gerald and uh since Gerald, I mean we've had a
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: couple of guys like your Jordan Phillips. You know those
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: guys kind of go and just unexpectedly do a lot
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: better in the NFL. Jalen Redmond's doing himself a good job.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Uh you know his season's over now, but you know
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: we we need to see you know, lj is he's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: getting older. But Bates needs to get this run of
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: d tackles to really get through the go through the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: NFL and and and start making making splashes.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Yep, give me some uh but yeah, Cannick, get in
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: the in the Wildcat. It's gonna be fun. Last thing though,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: coaching stuff, I've been seeing this going around. Of course,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: the there's been rumors about potential coaching changes and position
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: coaches anyway. For Oklahoma for example, Uh, DeMarco Murray has
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: been linked to the Cowboy as of late. He's a
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: former Cowboy. He's beloved by Jerry Jones, except for when
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Jerry Jones needs to pay him. Yeah, that's when he
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: decides that he needs to go ahead and send.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Then he'd beat He's not beloved, he'd be left.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: He'd be left at that point he got. But I
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: could totally see DeMarco taking an NFL job. He's an
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: NFL guy and that makes sense.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Be DeMarco Deon Sanders.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Uh you know, just could you imagine coach Prime with
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: with with DeMarco Murray.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Oh bro and then guess what there it would it
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: would be like the Expendables as the head coaching staff
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: at the Dallas Cowboys. You'd have Michael h Been coaching
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: the wide receivers, assistant coach t O Hell. I don't
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: know who do you bring back to coach Dion? Does
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: he coach the defensive backs or does he bring him back? Uh?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: You know, somebody else to do that. But there's I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: don't think that I don't think that Dion is going there.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: I do think that he's getting a lot of there's
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of there's a lot of heat, and he's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: going to get his name is going to be attached
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: for the next couple of years until he finally goes
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: or he kind of pulls a Lincoln Riley and just
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: it's not as alluring anymore.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I if we have a change, no running back coach
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: is a very tough one. If he decides to go
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: that would be a tough one. Honestly, I'll keep it real.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Y'all may think that this. Some of y'all may think
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you're above this, but I'm not, and I would have interest.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: You know who I would want it running back coach.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: If de Marco Murray.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Decides to leave coop to Shark Troyce, that.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a really good name, but I think I'm
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: gonna one up that one. Give me Stan Drayton.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Stan Drayden was the head coach up at Temple. For
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the uninitiated, Stan was a running back coach from twenty
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: twelve to twenty fourteen at Ohio State. He's running black
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: coach at twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one at Texas
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: went to shar Troyce got the job afterwards.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: Dude, dude can put him?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Dude can coach. Zeke was one of his running back
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott was one of his running backs. Carlos Hide,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I mean good Zeke. Zeke ran for eighteen hundred yards
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: at Ohio State.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: And when was he at Texas? Do you have those
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: years again?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one? Who was the running
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: back to Texas in twenty seven.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: So then it's the it's the is that Bjon No
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: Bijeon would be right after that. Who is the one?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he's over Deontay Foreman, Dante Foreman, who
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: I think ran for close to two thousand yards at
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Texas so and he is he he's him, Chuba Hubbard.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of like big twelve running backs that
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: were dogs that like just won't go away and they
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: just keep on rotating around and they're doing a really
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: really good job. And you know they're both those guys
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: are are one of them. Dante Foreman, He's been in
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of different camps and I mean it's been
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: his turn time to shine. He's actually produced pretty well.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm for Drayton.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: So, by the way, yes, the recruiter for b John
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Robinson was Tim Beck. Who's that who's the head coach
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: over at Coastal Carolina and Stan Drayton. Twenty twenty was
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: when he recruited him. Drayton left in twenty twenty after
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: twenty after twenty twenty one.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: Season, that's been choice Drake choice.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Choice twenty four two before that wasn't either.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Yid was he at JAW Tech or was he just
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: the assistant running back.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: I think he was coaching. He was coaching at jah
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Tech nineteen to twenty one. Okay, yeah, nineteen twenty one, now,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: ma'am to.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: Shark choice loved ou. He just had He just had
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: a fella in front of him who was a really,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: really good running back. And it seems Adrian Peterson and.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Keiwan Jones and Ronaldo Works were the first hurdle and
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: then Adrian Peterson showed.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: Up, eighty shows up and he's like, oh, okay, no, no,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: we're not doing this, and I don't know how jav
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Did you see Adrian's little little son.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah it.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Was he seventh grader.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Was eventh eighth.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's class of twenty thirty. Whatever that is. Yeah,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: it looked it. You know, it's it's we've already been
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: through a lot of like really really great running backs,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: like kids come through and not really any of them,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: you know worked. You know, I won't count Christian McCaffrey
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: because Ed was a receiver. But right, but you've had
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: a couple of, you know, kids of big players when
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: we were growing up. If a d can I mean,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: if his son can come in and actually turn into something.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's he's got to learn how to catch though,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: because I mean that was that was what pushed Adrian
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: Peterson out of the league. Is he looked like a
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: you know, a clown show when he was going out
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: for a pass, Like he just was not pretty and
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: in past I don't know how you can be six
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: two two forty and be so bad at past past protection.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Uh just stand there and stay in front of people.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: But I digress. But no, I'd love I mean if
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: he stays, if he stays on the strain, Uh, he
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: needs to help Daddy pay off all those bills. It's true,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: and I could help that.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: He'd kill it. He'd actually kill it there if we're
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: being Hudson honest. But you know who else? Oh yeah,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Dan Drayden was cooking as a I would like stay
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: at as a former head coach at running back, I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: would like him. Here's some of the names that he
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: was a primary on back in his recruiting days. You
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: ready to cook.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Roll that beautiful bean footage?
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: M Newton.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: You never heard of it.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Chris Rayner from a quarterback for Florida. Yeah, yeah, because
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: he was there at Florida from five oh seven, Marshawn.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: Latimer okay, South Carolina blew out. We would know more
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: about it. He would be more of a household name
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: if he would to completely. Maurice claretted his knee right,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Jade Blue okay. Jonathan Brooks, who is the number one
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: running back, picks this pass draft right, yep?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Just you know, just a coup of Dames, the pouncy brothers. Okay,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: So he gets Lineman too, like he just recruits his
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: butt off, didn't Zelle Ward was a corner that he
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: was a primary for when he was How do you
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: he's getting everybody? Riley Cooper? No, I'm just throwing names
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: at job named job. Heard of that? This Ezekiel Elliott,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: he was a secondary. Oh and same thing with Bjeon.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I would like a Stan Drayton in my life.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Or or Shot Samples wanted him to be the wide
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: receiver s we got. Samples is coaching running backs for
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: s m U currently, And I mean where it's.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Samples that he's not?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: He's a isn't he?
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: I think he just took s U job, didn't he?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: I think?
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: So let me see where's were Shot Samples? You haven't
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: heard much recently where you google.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I'm googling it now, but I don't see anything of
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: him Lee's or Yeah he's a he's an Oregon. Yeah,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: he stated he stayed at Orgon. He didn't leave.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: He ain't coming here unless he unless he just wants
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: to get back closer to Texas.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Like right, unless Dan Lanning ends up being a field job.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: So those jobs that's happening now.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Sam Samples Houston, Texas, s m U, s m U,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: s m U, Los Angeles, Rams, Arizona State, Oregon. He's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: done a good job. There was no there was no Chattanooga,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: west Chester, west Chester State, west Chesterton, Fieldville, you know, state.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Chool, School of the Blind, none of that, Okay, legitimacy there.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that is a conversation could be had.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's but it's it's I think that there's a
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: lot of conversations going on. I think there's been a
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: lot of there's been a lot of stuff out there
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: obviously about coaches, you know, just I mean, let's let's
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: be honest, like even when season is still going on,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of verbiage that is like no one
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: was going to be safe outside of maybe Bill Benbow
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: or you know.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Ri All you don't get for Susied and fog without.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're you're losing at least one of those guys.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: So long story short, I mean, there's just still there's
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: still a lot of coaching carousel to go on, and
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: so don't be surprised if next Sunday night we're still
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: kind of just waiting for some you know, tea leaves
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: to settle.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Yep. Even add to that though, coop to wrap it up,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: someone asked a question, was taking so long? It's probably
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: why it's winging for the fences. Well, at the same time,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: are you really in a rush? Your linebacker coach gone?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: But who coaches linebackers too? BV? Like so do you
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: need do you have to hire someone day one? Right
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: right now? Like is it an emergent? Practices aren't happening
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: until what March? Right now?
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: It's winter workouts, So there was Schmidt anyway, they're not
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: supposed to be around, you know.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, they're folcusing on recruiting and that BV.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Can you know you can have Skolsky get you know,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: get his you know, cut his teeth in the game,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: but there's no real reason to rush that like at all.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: So to me, you're you're good right now, and listen,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: if it ends up being if it is a being Knowles,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: like there you are, offends up being West from Clemson,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: there you are. If it ends up just being Brett Venables,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: there you are, Like, I don't think it's that big
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: of a deal. I think that from the aspect of
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: like I can be, I can say either side. You know,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: I think that if Noles really wants to be here
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: and wants to get out, I think that he ends
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: up here. I think that if he wants to see
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: what he can kind of like maximize this package at
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: I think it probably doesn't end up.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it s fair point. I guess my question
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: is going to be, who's another big name candidate you
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: could go after, because in some situations it could be
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: a position coaching the NFL, So maybe somebody's in the playoffs.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: Arnett, you know, the Zach Garnett. It was defensive guy.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: He just took the job UNLV. But ye, buyouts are
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: usually reduced at a certain point. And I think our board.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Meets next week to Tuesday.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: I think, yes, Tuesday, so right after the holiday and
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: kids back in school, it's probably we're gonna see some
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: of the changes in the coaching staff at that point.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: The collegeball season's over and the adjustments will probably happen there.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: So and jayap, what will we be talking about right now?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: Would we have a show? Would you guys be able
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: to be you guys would be watching the Office for
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: the forty third time if you didn't have us to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: tune into and talk about this, if it had already
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: been done, So we'd be coming up with who's going
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: to win the n Girsky Award, Who's going to win
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: the Beteneric Award? Like we would just everybody on this team,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: right one, first team, all Americans, just up and down
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: the team. So this gives us something to talk about.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Yep. So sooner Cowboy says, uh, well, I mean you can't.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna get somebody to quit their job in
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: the middle of the season that that typically doesn't happen.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Kind of tough to get somebody to do it. I mean,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: you usually only have people available when they get fired.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: So all right, we're out. Thank out for pulling up
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: hit the light button, Newton the Chance subscribe rate review
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: give us five shout out at us hook up the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: gamer Bones. First deposit two thousand dollars by using promo
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: code YouTube one point fifty. We will chop it up
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: with each and every one of you. Later this weekend,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: we will go through the schedule. Tell y'all now, schedule.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go through it. We're'll give our first impressions
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: as the first transfer portal window has quote unquote closed,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: even though we have one more game left. We're gonna
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: look at uh that, and we'll also previewed a natty
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: game because that'd be fun to talk about. We're out
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: o pay