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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome to Tworks. Can you believe it? Tworks are red?
- 0:07Speaker 1: January twenty third, twenty twenty six.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Back to Tworks.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Welcome to this Week in Pharmacy. Tworks is the number
- 0:32Speaker 1: one weekly talk show about the profession of pharmacy. And
- 0:35Speaker 1: now here's our host and founder of the Pharmacy Podcast Network,
- 0:39Speaker 1: Todd Urie. Hey, welcome to this Week in Pharmacy. I
- 0:45Speaker 1: am your host, Todd uri from the Pharmacy Podcast Network.
- 0:49Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great week. It is uh
- 0:52Speaker 1: snowmageddon in these United States, and especially over here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
- 1:00Speaker 1: You know, we are getting ready for a whole lot
- 1:03Speaker 1: of snow. I remember ninety three we had twenty seven
- 1:09Speaker 1: inches in like not even four to six hours, and
- 1:13Speaker 1: then we ended up having about thirty six inches, which
- 1:16Speaker 1: was crazy. But this won't be at that level. But
- 1:19Speaker 1: it's going to be fun. I like driving a I
- 1:22Speaker 1: like driving my ATV and plow in the driveway, just
- 1:26Speaker 1: getting things done. What a great week. I am coming
- 1:29Speaker 1: off of a high from the Pharmacy fifty Awards. If
- 1:32Speaker 1: you didn't get a chance to listen to that episode,
- 1:35Speaker 1: it will be coming out as a special series, so
- 1:38Speaker 1: you can hear from those in our pharmacy profession who
- 1:42Speaker 1: are really making a huge difference in pharmacy care and
- 1:46Speaker 1: the innovation of pharmacists in different sectors of pharmacy. And
- 1:53Speaker 1: just excited to share the leaders that you voted for.
- 1:56Speaker 1: And I really appreciate everybody that voted. We had so
- 1:58Speaker 1: many people involved. It was a It was a big
- 2:01Speaker 1: deal for for me. It was the fourth time, the
- 2:07Speaker 1: fourth annual, and how much growth we experienced it was
- 2:12Speaker 1: it was absolutely crazy. And thank you so much for
- 2:15Speaker 1: being a part of it. Hey, we are so excited
- 2:19Speaker 1: today because we we're going to dive into a whole
- 2:24Speaker 1: bunch of different news segments, obviously Twerk's news. Chris Ray
- 2:29Speaker 1: is coming on from Pharmacy Marketplace. I can't wait to
- 2:32Speaker 1: talk with Chris. Definitely want to talk with you about
- 2:37Speaker 1: what's going on in the profession. But before I get
- 2:42Speaker 1: into that, I do want our listeners to know what
- 2:45Speaker 1: happened this week in pharmacy, in the in the realm
- 2:48Speaker 1: of podcasting, and and I'm going to be talking a
- 2:51Speaker 1: little bit about podcasting and I'm sorry, I'm sure you
- 2:55Speaker 1: saw me talking about pod one and listener dot com
- 2:59Speaker 1: and we're we're going to review that too. But what
- 3:03Speaker 1: I want to start out with and when as you're
- 3:05Speaker 1: driving in your car and you're walking or whatever, is
- 3:08Speaker 1: how are you using podcasting because there's so much ability
- 3:12Speaker 1: for you to use it not only as an education
- 3:15Speaker 1: and as a news source and which ones you should
- 3:18Speaker 1: be searching for and tap it into, but getting on
- 3:21Speaker 1: shows and representing what's happening in pharmacy and how pharmacists
- 3:28Speaker 1: and pharmacy operators and technologists and people in AI are
- 3:31Speaker 1: leveraging the same thing happening in different sectors of healthcare,
- 3:35Speaker 1: but how pharmacy is leading today. We are going to
- 3:40Speaker 1: be talking about the impact of data and total podcast
- 3:46Speaker 1: listenership engagement and how important that is. But first of all,
- 3:50Speaker 1: Framework Focus released cybersecurity and long term care pharmacy and
- 3:55Speaker 1: how important cybersecurity is. And it's really interesting conversation with
- 4:00Speaker 1: the expertise that came from that interview with both Scott Batty,
- 4:06Speaker 1: CEO of Soft Writers that's the largest largest client base
- 4:13Speaker 1: driven by long term care pharmacy operators Platform Framework LTC,
- 4:18Speaker 1: and how Chris Callahan of Echelon Risk and cyber dives
- 4:23Speaker 1: into that conversation. You don't want to miss that one.
- 4:26Speaker 1: It's really interesting. It'll open your mind up to the
- 4:29Speaker 1: to the realm of of how non secure the Internet
- 4:34Speaker 1: can be in a scary place out there, like hackers
- 4:37Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Hey, geriatric pharmacists focus with Tamara Rugels.
- 4:43Speaker 1: They dive into new diabetes care ideas and standards for
- 4:49Speaker 1: older adults and your seniors, if you're in senior care,
- 4:51Speaker 1: if you touch long term care, you're definitely going to
- 4:54Speaker 1: want to listen into Tamra and special guests Doctor Diana
- 4:59Speaker 1: Isaac's who as a returning guest on the Pharmacy Podcast Network,
- 5:04Speaker 1: so excited to have her back. Then doctor Boskov dives
- 5:08Speaker 1: into the latest episode of the Holistic Pharmacy Podcast, reducing
- 5:15Speaker 1: inflammation with science backed natural solutions. You're gonna want to
- 5:19Speaker 1: listen to this. With the rise of inflammation hypertension, you're
- 5:25Speaker 1: gonna want to listen into that conversation. Extremely interesting. And
- 5:28Speaker 1: then finally the executive Dose talked with political leader in
- 5:35Speaker 1: Western Pennsylvania, Representative Clarity Grim Krupa. Hey, let's let's get
- 5:44Speaker 1: into Torque's news. I'm excited to just realize that the
- 5:51Speaker 1: Pharmacy fifty never really had much of an international presence.
- 5:56Speaker 1: We did have Katrina's or who just released a brand
- 6:00Speaker 1: new book. You got to reach out to Katrina and
- 6:03Speaker 1: engage with her, and then Anisha Patel and her Pharmacist
- 6:10Speaker 1: Diaries and where they were going. We are now seeing
- 6:15Speaker 1: a huge expansion into the global connections of leaders and
- 6:20Speaker 1: innovators in pharmacy. I'm so excited. We had I think
- 6:25Speaker 1: five or six international Pharmacy fifty most influential and I
- 6:31Speaker 1: can't wait to get them on twerks and talk to
- 6:35Speaker 1: you and have them talk to you our audience, which
- 6:38Speaker 1: is about ninety percent of our audiences coming out of
- 6:41Speaker 1: the United States. So it's time to go big time,
- 6:44Speaker 1: to go global much more so. This article came from
- 6:47Speaker 1: the Pharmacist. You can find it the Pharmacist dot co UK,
- 6:53Speaker 1: the Pharmacist dot Co UK and that's out of London.
- 6:57Speaker 1: The title is Pharmacy Leadership Board Issues, Hall for Unity
- 7:01Speaker 1: and Open Letter. An interesting article where the Primary Care
- 7:07Speaker 1: Pharmacy Association and the UK Clinical Pharmacy Association will be
- 7:13Speaker 1: publishing plans for an ambitious new approach to leadership as
- 7:18Speaker 1: the Royal Pharmaceutical Society becomes a Royal College. In April
- 7:24Speaker 1: of this year and how integrated this can become between
- 7:29Speaker 1: sectors of pharmacy, hospital system, clinical research, clinical trials, community pharmacy,
- 7:38Speaker 1: and it will include even pharmacy technicians across the UK,
- 7:42Speaker 1: pharmacy teams in Northern Ireland, members of specialist professionals groups,
- 7:49Speaker 1: and students and trainees. And I'm looking back to us
- 7:53Speaker 1: here in the United States. Are we working more seamlessly
- 7:58Speaker 1: than ever? Are we pulling down the walls between specialty
- 8:03Speaker 1: and community and long term care? I see a lot
- 8:07Speaker 1: of even feuding behind the scenes, and most of the
- 8:10Speaker 1: time it's tied to PBMs and how they're perverting the
- 8:15Speaker 1: relationships and the differences of the sectors of pharmacy. But
- 8:19Speaker 1: then how we work together. But in the show notes,
- 8:22Speaker 1: take a look at this and read this article. Very interesting.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Up next from Specialty Pharmacy Continuum, the NCPA expands the
- 8:33Speaker 1: pharmacy closure Mapping tool. You can go to the interactive
- 8:37Speaker 1: mapping tool and dig into where pharmacy deserts are increasing
- 8:44Speaker 1: based on the closure of independent community pharmacies, and the
- 8:48Speaker 1: tool defines pharmacy shortages areas based on travel distance to
- 8:53Speaker 1: the nearest pharmacy more than two miles in suburban areas,
- 8:58Speaker 1: more than one mile in earth urban areas, and more
- 9:01Speaker 1: than half a mile in low income neighborhoods with low
- 9:06Speaker 1: vehicle ownership. This is eye opening and it should also
- 9:12Speaker 1: be an opportunity for independent community pharmacies and small chain
- 9:19Speaker 1: pharmacies to start pinpointing where they could expand business and
- 9:25Speaker 1: coverage and seeing if there's an opportunity out there if
- 9:29Speaker 1: you are in a position to do so and expand
- 9:32Speaker 1: those cash based systems. But this is an important tool,
- 9:35Speaker 1: take a look at it. Thanks for covering this specialty
- 9:39Speaker 1: pharmacy continuum. Hey, everybody knows if you aren't living under
- 9:45Speaker 1: a rock hopefully or under a blanket, that we are
- 9:48Speaker 1: going to be plunging into some very cool temperatures here
- 9:51Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. It's definitely going to be negative. From CBS News,
- 9:56Speaker 1: it says Pittsburgh area pharmacist Will says to Feel prescriptions
- 10:00Speaker 1: ahead of the major winter snowstorm. Just to shout out
- 10:06Speaker 1: to our independence once again. Are you able to get
- 10:09Speaker 1: messaging out to your community today through social media? Get
- 10:12Speaker 1: it on your Facebook, get it on Instagram. But let
- 10:16Speaker 1: everybody know what's going on with your services over the
- 10:20Speaker 1: next twenty to forty eight hours and just hope everybody
- 10:25Speaker 1: stays safe and that operations are not as disrupted as
- 10:34Speaker 1: as probably what they're going to be in some areas
- 10:38Speaker 1: we expect Brownsville, Pennsylvania. I'm south of Pittsburgh by an hour.
- 10:44Speaker 1: I'm sure that we'll probably get between five and seven inches.
- 10:50Speaker 1: It won't really be that big of a deal, but
- 10:54Speaker 1: it's still it's going to impede delivery obviously, and people
- 11:02Speaker 1: people get scared, and sometimes you're the closest You're the
- 11:07Speaker 1: closest provider of healthcare to them, and being available is
- 11:14Speaker 1: pretty important. So remember to communicate with your community today
- 11:19Speaker 1: and let us know the stories that come out of this.
- 11:23Speaker 1: If you have a story to share on this Week
- 11:25Speaker 1: in Pharmacy, you want to get you more involved, the
- 11:27Speaker 1: listeners more involved, are pharmacy owners more involved. We are
- 11:31Speaker 1: going to have some follow up interviews with Pharmacy fifty
- 11:35Speaker 1: winner from last year, Anthony Mamini, who runs a cannabis
- 11:42Speaker 1: pharmacy out in New Jersey as well as Camden Apothecary
- 11:46Speaker 1: his pharmacy in New Jersey, and some of the changes
- 11:50Speaker 1: that are coming in cannabis, and we really had an
- 11:54Speaker 1: interesting conversation, like I said, with Representative Krupa out of
- 11:59Speaker 1: Western Penncil, and she agrees that that cannabis could be
- 12:05Speaker 1: leveraged for medication use. However, she's concerned with the non
- 12:12Speaker 1: medicinal purposes and and how that may or may not
- 12:17Speaker 1: impede functionality of of who we are as a as
- 12:25Speaker 1: a culture. But there's so many sides to it. I
- 12:28Speaker 1: love hearing from pharmacists on this. If you want to
- 12:30Speaker 1: talk about medical cannabis, cannabis in therapies, the topicals, compounding,
- 12:36Speaker 1: please reach out to me. I'd love to have you
- 12:39Speaker 1: on the show and let's talk about it all right.
- 12:43Speaker 1: I mentioned this this is interesting. We are big into
- 12:51Speaker 1: metrics here at the Pharmacy Podcast and the importance of
- 12:56Speaker 1: understanding where our listeners are coming from. If you're engaging
- 13:00Speaker 1: Pharmacy Podcast and our client content or really any of
- 13:03Speaker 1: our content in where are you hitting Where are you
- 13:07Speaker 1: getting this or you getting it from social media? Are
- 13:10Speaker 1: you engaging on LinkedIn? Are you just going to your
- 13:13Speaker 1: podcast feed and looking for a keyword as to what
- 13:17Speaker 1: subjects you're looking for? And how easy is it to
- 13:22Speaker 1: access information and podcast form for you that could be
- 13:27Speaker 1: clinical or could be a discussion of something that you
- 13:31Speaker 1: really want to dive into. You just listen to Oh,
- 13:35Speaker 1: you just listen to you something on a blood disorder,
- 13:40Speaker 1: and you want to know is this trustworthy information? Who's
- 13:43Speaker 1: it coming from, who's talking about it? I talked about
- 13:47Speaker 1: this on LinkedIn. If you're on my LinkedIn or you're
- 13:50Speaker 1: on the Pharmacy podcast Networks LinkedIn, please follow us and
- 13:54Speaker 1: rate up on some of the things we're hitting. But
- 13:56Speaker 1: podcast one, who is a podcast network giant, partners with
- 14:02Speaker 1: listener dot com and PPN has been using listener dot
- 14:07Speaker 1: com for about three to four months now and this
- 14:13Speaker 1: really completes the analytics that we need as a podcast
- 14:18Speaker 1: network and should give you also trust in podcasts that
- 14:22Speaker 1: are being measured by Listener because they really take in
- 14:27Speaker 1: total encompass of content in different forms, in being delivered
- 14:32Speaker 1: in different ways, not only through podcast feeds and where
- 14:35Speaker 1: you're linking up. But it's really a super interesting story
- 14:39Speaker 1: in metrics around how are pharmacists have a huge opportunity
- 14:48Speaker 1: to build content that impacts public health? And I do
- 14:54Speaker 1: want you to think more about this. I want you
- 14:56Speaker 1: to think, are you publishing journal article? Are you in
- 15:01Speaker 1: pre stage of publishing something. Have you published something and
- 15:05Speaker 1: it's just not getting enough traction? Are you working on
- 15:11Speaker 1: VC getting an adventure capital and funding for your small
- 15:15Speaker 1: startup business? How do you leverage what one hundred and
- 15:20Speaker 1: forty seven million Americans are listening to, which is the
- 15:25Speaker 1: media of podcasting. And that's the macro thought of it,
- 15:32Speaker 1: But what about the micro? What about your community? Are
- 15:38Speaker 1: you in a position where your pharmacy, whether that be
- 15:42Speaker 1: your chain pharmacy or your grocery store pharmacy or your
- 15:47Speaker 1: standalone independent people like you can tie out of nine
- 15:54Speaker 1: eighty six for example, they definitely have talked about podcasting,
- 15:58Speaker 1: and they should do it because they have a collective audience,
- 16:02Speaker 1: which is their customer base, to deliver non bullshit information
- 16:09Speaker 1: about healthcare to their clients. And start talking about contraception,
- 16:15Speaker 1: start talking about HIV care, talk about cancer, talk about
- 16:20Speaker 1: pediatric needs, and begin giving your community the trusted information
- 16:30Speaker 1: that they desperately want and they look for, and now
- 16:34Speaker 1: it's coming from their hometown pharmacist that they trust. And
- 16:39Speaker 1: you start to weave in other things in those podcast
- 16:42Speaker 1: discussions that center the listeners into content that's once again,
- 16:49Speaker 1: it's trustworthy, it's entertaining Pharmacy Podcast Network wants to partner
- 16:54Speaker 1: with you. If you're listening right now, you want to
- 16:57Speaker 1: build a podcast for your regional pharmacy, your independent pharmacy,
- 17:01Speaker 1: your pharmacy community, your pharmacy association, even for the state associations.
- 17:08Speaker 1: We have so much work to do and we have
- 17:10Speaker 1: to start taking this initiative to our consumers. And that's
- 17:15Speaker 1: definitely one of our plans and what we're doing and
- 17:17Speaker 1: positioning and getting out there and talking with you as
- 17:21Speaker 1: pharmacy owners. I want to talk to pharmacy owners in
- 17:26Speaker 1: person more than ever. We have to get together, so
- 17:30Speaker 1: we let's start thinking about the conferences that we're going
- 17:32Speaker 1: to be attending. I'm hoping to be going to the
- 17:37Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Pharmacist Association Annual event, which is going to be
- 17:42Speaker 1: February twentieth through twenty second on a weekend Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Be wonderful to see you at Pennsylvania. Obviously PPA is
- 17:52Speaker 1: my home state pharmacy association, so definitely want to support that.
- 17:57Speaker 1: Went there several times, but geez, schedules just get crazy
- 18:01Speaker 1: with this conference seas and you can only go to
- 18:02Speaker 1: so many conferences per year. I think I hit twelve
- 18:08Speaker 1: last year and that was probably four too many. And
- 18:11Speaker 1: then we're going to be headed to ASSEMBIA and dialing
- 18:17Speaker 1: into and digging down into specialty. If you are going
- 18:20Speaker 1: to ASSEMBIA, I'd like to talk to you there. Let's
- 18:23Speaker 1: schedule time together. Let's talk about what you're doing in
- 18:25Speaker 1: specialty pharmacy. And also we're going to be going to
- 18:29Speaker 1: the Pharmacy Profits Summit twenty twenty six. Shout out to
- 18:33Speaker 1: Lisa Faust and her team that built the first conference
- 18:38Speaker 1: of its kind. I think it's five or six years
- 18:40Speaker 1: in now, if not longer, we're all getting sold times
- 18:44Speaker 1: going by, but a shoutout to Lisa and her team.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Look up the Pharmacy Profits Summit twenty twenty six. You
- 18:54Speaker 1: can go to a Pharmacy Profits Summit and google Pharmacy
- 18:58Speaker 1: Profit Summit comes right up. We're thrilled to be going
- 19:03Speaker 1: there and talking with pharmacy owners and operators that are
- 19:08Speaker 1: doing things above and beyond. They are not standing still.
- 19:11Speaker 1: They are developing cash based systems and programs. They're developing
- 19:17Speaker 1: new access to healthcare through pharmacies, infusion compounding technology, wearable
- 19:26Speaker 1: information being put in data, the use of AI. This
- 19:31Speaker 1: conference is going to be really interesting. So if you're going,
- 19:35Speaker 1: please connect with us, connect with me and let me know.
- 19:40Speaker 1: And like I said, it's if you are building any content,
- 19:46Speaker 1: if you are a pharmacy student and you are wanting
- 19:51Speaker 1: to build your reputation. This is all tied back to
- 19:57Speaker 1: how the the profession connects with you and sees you
- 20:03Speaker 1: and trusts you, and then the consumer world. And there's
- 20:08Speaker 1: always two sides. Your B to B network and your
- 20:11Speaker 1: B two C network and which one fits you and
- 20:15Speaker 1: your businesses and your business models. Are you a standalone consultant?
- 20:20Speaker 1: You are hearing more and more about consultancy and pharmacists
- 20:26Speaker 1: building their own business and that is going to increase.
- 20:32Speaker 1: And are you Are you in a side hustle level
- 20:36Speaker 1: right now and you're looking to expand. So I love
- 20:40Speaker 1: working with pharmacists and pharmacy operations who are building new
- 20:47Speaker 1: ways that pharmacists are are existing in their careers and
- 20:52Speaker 1: what they're doing to build small businesses. I think of
- 20:57Speaker 1: the contracept angle and I'm not sure if you've listened,
- 21:03Speaker 1: but if you go to get prismurx dot com, that's
- 21:09Speaker 1: get prism ourx dot com. I should have that on
- 21:15Speaker 1: the screen for you get prismurx dot com. So this
- 21:21Speaker 1: is a platform that will enable you to not only
- 21:27Speaker 1: launch your contraception business as a pharmacy and a pharmacist,
- 21:31Speaker 1: but in the what thirty four thirty six states, you're
- 21:34Speaker 1: able to prescribe, You're able to manage this, keep track
- 21:39Speaker 1: of it, and get paid for it. So that's the
- 21:42Speaker 1: important part is getting paid for it. So we have
- 21:46Speaker 1: a series. If you go to get prism rx dot com,
- 21:51Speaker 1: go to their about section and you'll see a multiple
- 21:55Speaker 1: part series, three part series from them about their model
- 21:59Speaker 1: and how pharmacies both in the chain space, both in
- 22:05Speaker 1: the outpatient health system space, and most importantly in the
- 22:09Speaker 1: independent community pharmacy space, that you can build a profitable
- 22:17Speaker 1: new program that you will be launching into the community,
- 22:22Speaker 1: and you will be communicating with the press. You'll be
- 22:27Speaker 1: developing some web based content. An extension of your website
- 22:30Speaker 1: should be all about your contraception system and business, your offerings.
- 22:35Speaker 1: You could do a scheduler that people have only a
- 22:38Speaker 1: certain amount of time to schedule their contraception visits with you.
- 22:43Speaker 1: We can start using tools like calendar calendarly. I can't
- 22:48Speaker 1: say that I love calendarly I think it's ten bucks
- 22:51Speaker 1: a month. You're going to embed that into your website
- 22:53Speaker 1: into this contraception section, or you could even do it
- 22:56Speaker 1: through a blog and push traffic to that and announce
- 23:00Speaker 1: that on social media. We'll have social media kits for you.
- 23:05Speaker 1: You'll be able to engage the team at get prism
- 23:10Speaker 1: rx dot com, talk with Mary, talk with doctor Devin,
- 23:14Speaker 1: and launch your program to build cash based consultancy, cash
- 23:21Speaker 1: based business and how maybe it's not as simple for
- 23:26Speaker 1: people that need contraception. Definitely there's going to be some
- 23:29Speaker 1: fast turnaround, but you still should use that opportunity to
- 23:33Speaker 1: build consultancy and opportunity to talk with them about other
- 23:36Speaker 1: things and bringing in supplements and consult I mean just
- 23:40Speaker 1: your knowledge, you know, as a healthcare provider. But what
- 23:44Speaker 1: a wonderful opportunity in the areas that planned parenthoods have
- 23:49Speaker 1: been shut down for one reason or another, to be
- 23:53Speaker 1: able to deliver a contraception service, a birth control service
- 23:57Speaker 1: to your community along with whatever you want to tack
- 24:00Speaker 1: onto it. So we work with GRX Marketing Nicole mclaurantine.
- 24:08Speaker 1: We work with their other division, which is their B
- 24:10Speaker 1: to B division, which is Finch Marketing and They will
- 24:15Speaker 1: have a turn key marketing program for you to help
- 24:19Speaker 1: launch this. So once again you come to us. Send
- 24:24Speaker 1: me an email Uri at Pharmacy Excuse me Uri at
- 24:31Speaker 1: pharmacypodcast dot com. Reach out to me. I will send
- 24:35Speaker 1: you the pieces of the puzzle. They work together very well.
- 24:40Speaker 1: And stop thinking about it. Just we do this as
- 24:44Speaker 1: an extension where it fits of your pharmacy services and
- 24:50Speaker 1: how it can deliver those those needed services that your
- 24:57Speaker 1: your patients desperately want. They want they were getting it
- 25:00Speaker 1: somewhere else. And like I said in the Planned Parenthood neighborhoods,
- 25:05Speaker 1: that were mostly the services they were providing was contraception.
- 25:12Speaker 1: When those disappear where they are, where do those patients go?
- 25:17Speaker 1: That's an opportunity to not just get their contraception thirty
- 25:24Speaker 1: day ninety day Phil, but what about everything else that
- 25:26Speaker 1: they may be on or their family members may be on.
- 25:33Speaker 1: Takes a little hustle. But the businesses out there, I
- 25:38Speaker 1: hear more and more of our independent community pharmacies just
- 25:46Speaker 1: doing so much and building so much worth in their
- 25:51Speaker 1: pharmacy beyond just a dispensing pharmacy. And that is so
- 25:57Speaker 1: exciting to what you expand service USS be sure to
- 26:05Speaker 1: talk to each other, tell us where you're going to
- 26:07Speaker 1: be in your in your conference circuits, and like I said,
- 26:14Speaker 1: uh p PA, ASSEMBIA, the Pharmacy Profits Summit Live. We're
- 26:21Speaker 1: definitely going to be going to n c PA later
- 26:23Speaker 1: in the year, Idea Share, the McKesson Show. I think
- 26:27Speaker 1: that's probably in July, Cardinal healths RBC, the Retail Business Conference.
- 26:34Speaker 1: Is that one of the most amazing conferences we go to.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Definitely probably going to be focused on a p h
- 26:41Speaker 1: A the annual. So what conferences are you going to?
- 26:46Speaker 1: What which ones make the most sense? And don't just
- 26:49Speaker 1: go to go obviously, you want to go to ones
- 26:52Speaker 1: that are going to you're going to get something out
- 26:53Speaker 1: of it. We should talk more about that. We should
- 26:56Speaker 1: talk about picking the right conferences for you and your
- 27:00Speaker 1: career and your sector of pharmacy. Hey, a shout out
- 27:05Speaker 1: to Independent Pharmacy Cooperative. Thank you so much for your
- 27:10Speaker 1: sponsorship of the Pharmacy Fifty Awards event and for sponsoring
- 27:15Speaker 1: today's episode. Quick message from IPC and we'll be right back.
- 27:28Speaker 3: This episode is sponsored by Independent Pharmacy Cooperative widely known
- 27:32Speaker 3: as IPC, established in nineteen eighty three, IPC is the
- 27:35Speaker 3: nation's largest group purchasing organization owned by independent pharmacy with
- 27:40Speaker 3: a mission of maximizing the success of community pharmacists. IPC
- 27:44Speaker 3: works to provide members with access to effective programs and
- 27:47Speaker 3: services designed to enhance profitability for independent pharmacy. Read more
- 27:52Speaker 3: about our mission by checking out our website at ipcrx
- 27:56Speaker 3: dot com. That's ipcrx dot com.
- 28:14Speaker 1: We really appreciate so much of the so so much
- 28:19Speaker 1: of the value of think about the relationships that you
- 28:23Speaker 1: have in your business and the physicians you work with
- 28:26Speaker 1: at the hospital, the nurse practitioners that you have on
- 28:30Speaker 1: the phone that you talk with, the vendors, your partnerships
- 28:36Speaker 1: that are critical that you work with. We work so
- 28:40Speaker 1: well with with IPC, Independent Pharmacy Cooperative in it and
- 28:44Speaker 1: it's it's more than the buying group. It's really paying
- 28:48Speaker 1: attention to the profitability of pharmacies. And some of the
- 28:52Speaker 1: most creative pharmacists and pharmacy owners keep pushing the envelope
- 28:58Speaker 1: with with i PC and IPC services, and we very
- 29:03Speaker 1: much appreciate them. We really appreciate how they work with
- 29:08Speaker 1: other other clients that we have. URL Pharma, for example,
- 29:15Speaker 1: works with IPC and having that cross reference, having that
- 29:19Speaker 1: ability to talk about issues and how are you working
- 29:23Speaker 1: with a generics wholesaler, how are you working with a
- 29:28Speaker 1: secondary wholeseller, and where's the strategy and price savings, especially
- 29:33Speaker 1: with the volatility of the market right now and what
- 29:37Speaker 1: we're still going through. You know, we always look for
- 29:44Speaker 1: good information to share on this week in pharmacy, but
- 29:48Speaker 1: also in the world of LinkedIn and like I was
- 29:51Speaker 1: talking about social media earlier, engage with us, our hosts
- 29:57Speaker 1: as well as our clients as well as our ourself
- 30:00Speaker 1: and myself and my internal team. If there is an issue,
- 30:05Speaker 1: if there is something that is impeding your preventing you
- 30:10Speaker 1: from being the best pharmacists that you could be or
- 30:13Speaker 1: the best pharmacy operations, I want to talk about it.
- 30:16Speaker 1: I want to talk about how to help each other
- 30:18Speaker 1: remove barriers, how we can leverage artificial intelligence. Who's learning
- 30:27Speaker 1: to do it the right way. I was excited to
- 30:31Speaker 1: see the article that came out in Dispense Times. Not
- 30:37Speaker 1: sure if you subscribe to but Dispense Times, but check
- 30:40Speaker 1: them out at Dispensed Dispense Times dot com. Their latest
- 30:46Speaker 1: issue is out. It's their January February twenty twenty sixth
- 30:49Speaker 1: issue and the author of this article article that I
- 30:54Speaker 1: want to references on page forty five is by Chris
- 31:01Speaker 1: Ray and he that's titled how tech Rewired Pharmacy from
- 31:07Speaker 1: the first commuters, from the first computer script to the
- 31:11Speaker 1: AI era. And I think he even references the timing
- 31:15Speaker 1: of like right around nineteen eighty three and there was
- 31:17Speaker 1: like this first wave of digital instead of being on
- 31:20Speaker 1: your typewriter. And I know you young and kids young,
- 31:24Speaker 1: you're young, and kids that are listening right now, you
- 31:27Speaker 1: don't know we had a top writer. But literally think
- 31:30Speaker 1: of how crazy pharmacy was back then when it was
- 31:35Speaker 1: handwritten and it was like typewriter and we're now we're
- 31:39Speaker 1: light years. Please go get me a pharmacy owner in
- 31:43Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three. I think of the Zilner family up
- 31:46Speaker 1: in Diamond Pharmacy. Not picking on you, Mark, It's not Mark.
- 31:54Speaker 1: Mark is the son. He's still young, but his dad
- 31:56Speaker 1: that passed away. He imagined what he went true in
- 32:01Speaker 1: the beginnings of how pharmacy and where the changes were.
- 32:04Speaker 1: And if you could take him at that level from
- 32:06Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three and bring him here and show him
- 32:09Speaker 1: how artificial intelligence is now part of it working with
- 32:13Speaker 1: technology and the robots are coming. But I want to
- 32:17Speaker 1: welcome to the show. The author of this really cool
- 32:21Speaker 1: article really opened my mind up. Mister Chris Ray.
- 32:25Speaker 2: How are you, hey, Todd. I'm doing well. I'm excited
- 32:29Speaker 2: to be here.
- 32:31Speaker 1: I'm excited to have you. Shout out to Chris because
- 32:36Speaker 1: he was given notice of this request of interview less
- 32:41Speaker 1: than an hour ago, and he's like, hell, yeah, let's
- 32:43Speaker 1: get on in twerks.
- 32:45Speaker 2: Yeah, anything, yeah, anything for you, Todd. And I always
- 32:48Speaker 2: like to hear myself talk. Unfortunately here for the audience.
- 32:53Speaker 1: All right, So everybody keeps using the word AI, artificial intelligence,
- 32:58Speaker 1: the artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence that I don't think artificial
- 33:03Speaker 1: intelligence is intelligent at all. I think it's just a tool. However,
- 33:07Speaker 1: there are things that are being refined right now in
- 33:11Speaker 1: marketing and analytics. We just talked about before you came on,
- 33:14Speaker 1: about how one of the biggest privately or one of
- 33:18Speaker 1: the biggest publicly traded podcast networks called podcast one is
- 33:23Speaker 1: now partnered with listener dot com, who we use that
- 33:26Speaker 1: analytics platform to dial into our listeners, and how our
- 33:32Speaker 1: listeners are engaging with us through podcasting but all through
- 33:35Speaker 1: social media and Listener is using artificial intelligence to gather
- 33:39Speaker 1: all of that data to truly give people that are
- 33:44Speaker 1: interested in Listener metrics like I would be. I'm a
- 33:47Speaker 1: nerd on that stuff, and so talk to us about
- 33:51Speaker 1: how you're kind of setting the stage for this article
- 33:54Speaker 1: and dispense times and give us a summary of what
- 33:57Speaker 1: you're dialing into and what you're learning out there.
- 34:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that for a lot of people, change
- 34:03Speaker 2: is tough, you know, especially when you're dealing with stress
- 34:08Speaker 2: and reactivity in a workflow out of pharmacy. So if
- 34:11Speaker 2: you're saying, hey, we're going to incorporate all this computer
- 34:14Speaker 2: intelligence into your job one, you're intimidated by it too.
- 34:18Speaker 2: You're like, hey, is this going to replace some of
- 34:20Speaker 2: the functionality of what I'm doing? And I think the
- 34:23Speaker 2: key component of this article is to say like, look,
- 34:26Speaker 2: you're not necessarily being replaced. This can be a tool
- 34:29Speaker 2: if used correctly and responsibly, this can really support you
- 34:33Speaker 2: in your position. And ultimately that's what we want folks
- 34:39Speaker 2: to see. If adopted right, then their lives are going
- 34:42Speaker 2: to be easier. But you have to really not rely
- 34:46Speaker 2: completely on AI. You got to understand what it does
- 34:50Speaker 2: for you, and then the human piece element of this
- 34:56Speaker 2: you have to do the refinement of the AI and
- 34:58Speaker 2: the data that it's fitting out to be able to
- 35:02Speaker 2: execute on whatever the deliverable is going to be. So
- 35:05Speaker 2: for pharmacy, you know, you're dealing with just so many
- 35:09Speaker 2: different data points ultimately trying to give good customer care.
- 35:13Speaker 2: And you would hope, just like that first computer, that
- 35:18Speaker 2: you know, these things that are showing up in pharmacy
- 35:20Speaker 2: workflow will take some of the busy work out of
- 35:23Speaker 2: your day to day operations so you can get back
- 35:25Speaker 2: to focusing on patient care.
- 35:29Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree. I'm not worried about artificial intelligence anytime
- 35:34Speaker 1: soon replacing a pharmacist or a technician. And the people
- 35:42Speaker 1: out there are the operators. The pharmacists are entrepreneurs that
- 35:46Speaker 1: are leveraging AI to do exactly what you were mentioning
- 35:51Speaker 1: one of our clients as Softwriters Framework LTC. They are
- 35:55Speaker 1: now leveraging workflows specifically for different types of long term
- 36:01Speaker 1: care pharmacy such as skilled nursing. They're operating different different prompts,
- 36:07Speaker 1: different things that they're asking the AI to do in
- 36:10Speaker 1: that space versus another sector, and this will increase We
- 36:14Speaker 1: hear Sheila Arquette, the executive director of the NASP National
- 36:21Speaker 1: Association of Specialty Pharmacy, starting to dial into disease state
- 36:26Speaker 1: management specific use of AI for data collection and even
- 36:32Speaker 1: in our space, we're partnered with Nested Knowledge, who's going
- 36:36Speaker 1: to give us access to relevant journal backed information of
- 36:42Speaker 1: things that we're talking about on the Pharmacy Podcast network
- 36:46Speaker 1: in the form of education for clinicians, for physicians, for
- 36:50Speaker 1: pharmacists in specific disease states. So let's talk and then
- 36:56Speaker 1: also of course how Outcomes is using it, how Alive
- 36:59Speaker 1: in Health is using it. You mentioned them mention those
- 37:02Speaker 1: organizations in your writing through their medication therapy management programs.
- 37:08Speaker 1: But talk to our listeners right now, if there's a
- 37:11Speaker 1: pharmacy owner right now, what are some of the first
- 37:15Speaker 1: steps and or ways that you've noticed AI being leveraged
- 37:19Speaker 1: in a successful manner in workflow for our community pharmacies.
- 37:24Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely that you know, you had mentioned Outcomes just
- 37:26Speaker 2: a second ago. You and I both were visiting with
- 37:29Speaker 2: them in Las Vegas last summer, and I think they
- 37:32Speaker 2: mentioned to you, like they mentioned to me, Hey, they're
- 37:35Speaker 2: starting to be able to tag customer profiles in the
- 37:39Speaker 2: software for clinical trial opportunities, so it would help the
- 37:44Speaker 2: obviously manufacturers, it would help the pharmacy because there would
- 37:48Speaker 2: be some revenue driven and then it would help the
- 37:50Speaker 2: patient due to the ability to be a part of
- 37:53Speaker 2: some type of trial that would ultimately impact them. Right.
- 37:57Speaker 2: So that's you know, partnering with your current software solutions
- 38:00Speaker 2: and seeing if they are incorporating this in an effective manner.
- 38:03Speaker 2: That'd be one. Then you're seeing pharmacies utilize it from
- 38:07Speaker 2: a marketing perspective as well, doing a lot of their
- 38:10Speaker 2: copy content. And you have to do it well because
- 38:15Speaker 2: now you're starting to get an eye for when people
- 38:18Speaker 2: are utilizing AI in a bad manner and there's just
- 38:21Speaker 2: trends that you see like yeah, that's obviously an AI
- 38:24Speaker 2: photo or that's an AI written social media post and
- 38:28Speaker 2: there was not really much personalization into it, so you
- 38:32Speaker 2: have to be aware of that. But it will cut
- 38:33Speaker 2: down on the time that you're spending with your your
- 38:36Speaker 2: marketing optimization. It will cut down on the time you're
- 38:39Speaker 2: spending doing a lot of manual, arduous task in finding
- 38:45Speaker 2: things within your software and workflow. A good thing would
- 38:49Speaker 2: be incorporating nutrition depletion front end solutions for customer profiles,
- 38:56Speaker 2: and AI could definitely trigger had some recommendations on how
- 39:02Speaker 2: to make the suggestions to patients and how to tag
- 39:06Speaker 2: patients in your workflow to to do that with. So
- 39:09Speaker 2: it's just ultimately going to be a good economic driver
- 39:13Speaker 2: for the pharmacy and a good standard of patient care
- 39:18Speaker 2: for your customers.
- 39:20Speaker 1: So kind of turn this inward for me for a second.
- 39:24Speaker 1: What way is artificial intelligence impacting the realm of inventory management?
- 39:31Speaker 1: And you've been it's amazing to watch your career, Chris,
- 39:37Speaker 1: coming through a wholesale giant and spending a lot of
- 39:41Speaker 1: time with pharmacy owners between how McKesson was being leveraged
- 39:46Speaker 1: in their inventory needs and you it's almost like the
- 39:49Speaker 1: boot camp of inventory understanding and pharmacy business understanding. And
- 39:56Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you're part of another organization
- 40:00Speaker 1: that's becoming more and more pinpointed to the pains that
- 40:05Speaker 1: pharmacy owners are experiencing in the realm of accessing medications,
- 40:11Speaker 1: drug shortages, deviating quick buys, and being able to stay
- 40:17Speaker 1: in compliance. And so talk to us, how is artificial
- 40:21Speaker 1: intelligence playing a role in your new role. It's not
- 40:26Speaker 1: really that new anymore, but you've been with Pharmacy Marketplace
- 40:30Speaker 1: for how long now, is it over a year?
- 40:31Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's a year, But we've been working on
- 40:34Speaker 2: this concept for about seven years. So you know, really
- 40:39Speaker 2: what happened was going to these pharmacies and understanding the
- 40:43Speaker 2: frustration of man, my life would be so much easier
- 40:46Speaker 2: if I just could buy and sell drugs in a
- 40:49Speaker 2: simple manner that were like other businesses, where it was
- 40:53Speaker 2: just a plus, be EQUALC. And then that would allow
- 40:56Speaker 2: me just to be a regular small business owner and
- 40:58Speaker 2: take good care of my customers. And just years of
- 41:02Speaker 2: conversations around Man, this is frustrating. This is frustrating. And
- 41:06Speaker 2: the fact is todd that because there's so much money
- 41:10Speaker 2: in drug supply chain and pharma, each of the stakeholders
- 41:15Speaker 2: have added layer upon layer of complexity on how the
- 41:19Speaker 2: sausage is made from an economic standpoint, that it has
- 41:25Speaker 2: overly complicated this process. And what's happened is with all
- 41:30Speaker 2: these back end rebates on the manufacturer and the wholesale
- 41:34Speaker 2: side and the PBMs how they design their spreads. And
- 41:38Speaker 2: you know, everybody understands that that's convoluted who has ultimately
- 41:43Speaker 2: been negatively impacted by all this has been community pharmacists
- 41:47Speaker 2: and the patients that they serve. Community pharmacists are having
- 41:50Speaker 2: to focus on a lot of you know, manually intensive
- 41:54Speaker 2: tasks that don't do anything for patients. It's not that
- 41:58Speaker 2: they are getting to spend more time time talking to
- 42:00Speaker 2: Miss Jones about her sugar peel or her heart medicine
- 42:03Speaker 2: or identifying problems. They are looking at back end things
- 42:09Speaker 2: and having to manage drug sourcing and having to manage
- 42:12Speaker 2: reimbursement situations that are just really honestly not manageable. So
- 42:17Speaker 2: what we've done is we've used AI at Pharmacy Marketplace
- 42:21Speaker 2: to do over two hundred thousand calculations at any given
- 42:25Speaker 2: time in comparisons of these drugs and show the pharmacy
- 42:29Speaker 2: the best pathway forward to further gross profit and then
- 42:34Speaker 2: ultimately also on the back end in terms of the reimbursement,
- 42:37Speaker 2: using AI to identify the correct appillable commercial claims based
- 42:44Speaker 2: on their state laws, PBM law of reform law. And
- 42:48Speaker 2: that is just the core of their business buying and
- 42:51Speaker 2: selling drugs. And I've gotten so passionate about every aspect
- 42:56Speaker 2: of clinical pharmacy and what pharmacies can do with their
- 42:59Speaker 2: scope of practic just now, But what I see after
- 43:02Speaker 2: talking to him for years and years, Hey, Chris, I
- 43:06Speaker 2: am so stressed right now. I'm so burnout on this
- 43:10Speaker 2: core of my business, minding zelling drugs. I don't have
- 43:13Speaker 2: the time and bandwidth to do the cool things that
- 43:15Speaker 2: I'm capable of doing. So we said, let's address those
- 43:18Speaker 2: core issues so now they can free up their time
- 43:21Speaker 2: and energy and staff to do the things that make
- 43:24Speaker 2: community health a better operation.
- 43:28Speaker 1: Hey, Chris, do you have five more minutes for us? Yep, yep,
- 43:31Speaker 1: All right, Hey, we're going to take a quick break.
- 43:34Speaker 1: It's tax season. You know what that means. That means
- 43:37Speaker 1: get your crap together. Get ready. You gotta march what
- 43:40Speaker 1: is it March fifteenth? Right, Hey, we'll be right back.
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- 45:11Speaker 1: Welcome back to twerks. Here with my friend Chris Ray,
- 45:16Speaker 1: excited about his advisement to our independent community pharmacy owners
- 45:21Speaker 1: about how to leverage artificial intelligence and how to do
- 45:25Speaker 1: it in different sectors of your business operations workflow for scheduling, buying,
- 45:33Speaker 1: better bicker, better opportunities to save money on your inventory.
- 45:39Speaker 1: Chris we want to align with Pharmacy Marketplace and you
- 45:45Speaker 1: and get some sandbox discussions going shout out to our
- 45:50Speaker 1: listeners right now, where are you going to be in
- 45:53Speaker 1: the realm of the conference season coming up this year?
- 45:56Speaker 2: Yeah, we're about there. You know, it starts around March
- 46:00Speaker 2: Todd and you got some of the buying group shows,
- 46:02Speaker 2: so we'll definitely be several of the larger group shows,
- 46:06Speaker 2: so ABCI, hopefully AAP will be at NCPA, and then
- 46:11Speaker 2: the wholesale shows this summer. You know, my wife always kids,
- 46:14Speaker 2: we don't get to take vacation. We don't get to
- 46:16Speaker 2: take a vacation because we're always you know, traveling to
- 46:20Speaker 2: these shows. But it's kind of like a vacation because
- 46:22Speaker 2: we get to hang out with all our friends. So
- 46:24Speaker 2: all the wholesale shows, you know, the Catalysts conference will
- 46:28Speaker 2: be there as well, and I really you know, there's
- 46:31Speaker 2: just so much change going on in the industry. I've
- 46:34Speaker 2: always said that going to these conferences allows the pharmacists
- 46:39Speaker 2: and the owner to work on the business instead of
- 46:43Speaker 2: in the business, and I really encourage folks to do that.
- 46:47Speaker 2: You know, one of my favorite owners when I worked
- 46:50Speaker 2: at McKesson, he finally convinced him to come to our
- 46:54Speaker 2: trade show after years he had never been, and he'd
- 46:56Speaker 2: been an owner for twenty five thirty years, and he
- 46:59Speaker 2: went and had a great time him and his wife
- 47:01Speaker 2: in San Diego. Now that was an easy pool, right
- 47:04Speaker 2: San Diego. But at the end of it, he told me, Hey, Chris,
- 47:08Speaker 2: you know, for years I've just been in my little vacuum,
- 47:12Speaker 2: in my at my little counter, working on the fires
- 47:15Speaker 2: in front of me. This has allowed me to take
- 47:17Speaker 2: a step back and look at what other people are
- 47:20Speaker 2: doing and look at what where pharmacy is going. So
- 47:23Speaker 2: I appreciate the ability to come out and do that.
- 47:28Speaker 1: Hey, are you headed to pharmacy profits Summitt twenty twenty six.
- 47:32Speaker 2: No, I'm not. You know, I love what Lisa's doing,
- 47:36Speaker 2: and I think the you know, I participate some with
- 47:39Speaker 2: Bylight is a great show. I definitely encourage folks to
- 47:42Speaker 2: support both Lisa and Dick Lead if they can at
- 47:45Speaker 2: their shows, you know, but they do a little bit
- 47:47Speaker 2: different with Pharmacy Profits some and an atrium is you know,
- 47:52Speaker 2: it's not just your vanilla ce, have some booze, you know,
- 47:57Speaker 2: have some lunch. They do a lot more about you know,
- 48:01Speaker 2: integrating the solution that's best suited for that pharmacist and
- 48:06Speaker 2: that owner. So really it is impactful and and and
- 48:10Speaker 2: you know, Todd, you and I discussed this, some of
- 48:12Speaker 2: these micro show opportunities might be the way of the future.
- 48:18Speaker 1: I like the smaller, I like the I like the smaller,
- 48:21Speaker 1: more intimate shows because the people that attend them are
- 48:26Speaker 1: able to mash up a little bit more. Because the big,
- 48:30Speaker 1: huge shows like the Hymns for example, which was overwhelming.
- 48:33Speaker 1: It's the largest IT healthcare IT show in the entire world.
- 48:37Speaker 1: There's forty five thousand people that come.
- 48:41Speaker 2: You it was.
- 48:42Speaker 1: It's just overwhelming. So a Atrium X Pharmacy Profits Summit,
- 48:48Speaker 1: even even some of the wholesaler shows that they are big,
- 48:52Speaker 1: but that sometimes they have that smaller feel to them.
- 48:55Speaker 1: And I if I if all I did was went
- 48:58Speaker 1: to trade shows, if it were my wish, I would
- 49:01Speaker 1: just go to trade shows because I love them. But
- 49:04Speaker 1: you can only go to so many in a year.
- 49:06Speaker 1: You have to like be like, where are we going
- 49:08Speaker 1: this year? And where and how does that Like you said,
- 49:11Speaker 1: with vacation time with family, if you can double up
- 49:13Speaker 1: on that, that's as a smart move.
- 49:17Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's a definitely. I think I did twelve
- 49:22Speaker 2: one year and I just it was if you get retired,
- 49:26Speaker 2: but yeah, you get to see the country, if you
- 49:29Speaker 2: follow up pharmacy and following pharmacy conferences, you get to
- 49:32Speaker 2: see a lot of cool people and make a lot
- 49:34Speaker 2: of good friends. And it's been a pleasure to do
- 49:38Speaker 2: so well.
- 49:41Speaker 1: I'm excited about meeting up with you. I always enjoy
- 49:45Speaker 1: our conversations. I like the insights that you bring to
- 49:49Speaker 1: our listeners. Congratulations on some of the recent recognition that
- 49:54Speaker 1: you've received from from the accolades, from the profession over
- 49:57Speaker 1: the years, and you're looked as a as a leader
- 50:00Speaker 1: and I was I was commenting on your post on
- 50:03Speaker 1: LinkedIn about being now one of the veterans, and I
- 50:07Speaker 1: don't do I really want that, Like it's like, oh
- 50:09Speaker 1: my gosh, we've been in pharmacy now over twenty years,
- 50:14Speaker 1: Like that's nuts.
- 50:16Speaker 2: Well, and I tell you, Todd, I'll plug you. When
- 50:20Speaker 2: I started out nor your network was not nearly what
- 50:25Speaker 2: it is now. But I was in the car a
- 50:28Speaker 2: lot and I was like, I got to learn something
- 50:31Speaker 2: to be able to talk to these pharmacists. I can't
- 50:33Speaker 2: just show up and stare at them and ask them
- 50:35Speaker 2: how their kids and grandkids are because you're just wasting
- 50:37Speaker 2: their time. They want some knowledge, So I would what
- 50:40Speaker 2: I would do is I would turn on Todd's podcast
- 50:42Speaker 2: and try to get some nugget from it to be
- 50:46Speaker 2: able to add some value. So I appreciate the opportunity
- 50:50Speaker 2: to grow with you, and I think that twenty twenty six,
- 50:54Speaker 2: the sky's limits so much change. We got to be
- 50:56Speaker 2: there and we got to help. You know, community pharmacy staff.
- 51:01Speaker 1: Take a look if you go to listener dot com
- 51:04Speaker 1: Forward Slash Pharmacy podcast, that's listener dot com Forward Slash
- 51:10Speaker 1: Pharmacy podcast. Take a look at the metrics of what
- 51:13Speaker 1: we're doing to drive the voice of our pharmacists, the
- 51:17Speaker 1: voice of our leaders, people like Buddy Carter and doctor
- 51:21Speaker 1: Daniel Plummer and Antonio Chacha and people in Biosimilars and
- 51:27Speaker 1: Alec Ginsberg.
- 51:28Speaker 2: It's just it's see.
- 51:31Speaker 1: Us using a network of people that are internal, our
- 51:35Speaker 1: insiders to the pharmacy profession. And just to announce, Chris,
- 51:40Speaker 1: I don't think you knew this, but we are recruiting
- 51:43Speaker 1: new hosts. We are looking for regional pharmacy owners to
- 51:48Speaker 1: start tying in news from their regions, so that we're
- 51:52Speaker 1: sharing what's happening at the ground level in the trenches.
- 51:57Speaker 1: So if you have ever wanted to start up in
- 52:00Speaker 1: your community pharmacy and the impact on your community or
- 52:04Speaker 1: involving your local politics or whatever you want to do,
- 52:08Speaker 1: reach out to me and get involved because this network,
- 52:12Speaker 1: like Chris was saying, has come a long long way,
- 52:15Speaker 1: and now it's moving needles because we're getting the right
- 52:19Speaker 1: people talking to each other. Chris.
- 52:23Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so great to hear you tell. One of
- 52:25Speaker 2: the things that we're focused on right now at Pharmacy
- 52:28Speaker 2: Marketplace is dealing with each individual state and helping the
- 52:32Speaker 2: pharmacies understand what they have specific to their state in
- 52:35Speaker 2: terms of PBM reform and how to take advantage of
- 52:40Speaker 2: those laws. So it is very much like state to
- 52:43Speaker 2: state or region of region in some instances, I promise
- 52:46Speaker 2: you all nineteen thousand community pharmacy owners are dealing with
- 52:51Speaker 2: very similar problems and patterns, but some of the micro
- 52:55Speaker 2: level problems and solutions will be regional. So we need
- 53:00Speaker 2: folks in Texas to jump on and tell us how
- 53:04Speaker 2: Texas is going and up in the Tri States and
- 53:08Speaker 2: West Coast. Yeah, It's good to hear from everybody across
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- 53:23Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you guys, Thanks tod.
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