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INTERVIEW: Sauce Walka Talks 'Saucefather 2,' Women & Social Media, Music Empowerment, Street Life, Drake + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club, Yep,
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Speaker 1: it's the World's most Dangerous Morning. Short to Breakfast Club,
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Speaker 1: Charlamagne the god Enva is in a shreport with with
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Speaker 1: fifty cent in the game. But Laura Lenro says, here,
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Speaker 1: nihlis some moons here and we got a special guest.
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Speaker 1: He's got a new album out. Sauce Father to Sauce Walker,
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Speaker 1: what's up my brother?
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Speaker 2: And ain't say, Man, it's the kid that did not
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Speaker 2: the kid that didn't the reason why the Sauce Wire
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Speaker 2: was reading, you know the flag. But I'm speaking Sauce Walker.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, people act like they know what you just.
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Speaker 2: I always do it that. I never say nothing that
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Speaker 2: I don't do, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: You know, I think people don't realize about you, Sauce Walker.
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Speaker 1: You really are a dope ass rapper.
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Speaker 2: Thank you appressure like an mc MC life.
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Speaker 3: But I think the.
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Speaker 1: Online personality sometimes overshadows the boss.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, it's more of a
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Speaker 2: thing like don't judge a book by its cover, but
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Speaker 2: also what we'd like to say in my and my
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Speaker 2: cool we'd like to say, don't let the souse full you.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, but also as well, you know,
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Speaker 2: I kind of felt like a lot of artists and
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Speaker 2: a lot of rappers put on this persona and they
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Speaker 2: put on this image, but like you always got to
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Speaker 2: be tough, for you always gotta be uh. It's just
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Speaker 2: like on some some some some street shit, you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like you can't just enjoy life for
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Speaker 2: be humorous or have uh, just have fun. And you
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, enjoy life for what it is.
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Speaker 2: And I always be so serious and for me and
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Speaker 2: my personal experience, I feel like when you really come
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Speaker 2: from the struggle, when you really come from violence, when
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Speaker 2: you really come from pain and suffering, and you get
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Speaker 2: to a platform like Instagram, this app was made to
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Speaker 2: like pictures and make memories and have fun, and just
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Speaker 2: so happened it became a platform where people could create,
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Speaker 2: uh lucrative ways of generating residual incoming wealth off of
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, creating a wider audience through
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Speaker 2: a platform. And I felt like, why would I use
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Speaker 2: Instagram as a place to try to be like overly see,
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Speaker 2: it's overly hard when I'm trying to reach out to
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Speaker 2: the world. You know what I'm saying. Not mad at that,
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Speaker 2: That's how I look at it.
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Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that because some people do like
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't know certain things about certain people. Yeah, like
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't know your baby daddy ain't been around in
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Speaker 1: six months, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: And the kids can't afford healthcare?
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: I made me laugh.
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Speaker 2: They make me laugh. When I first got on their platform,
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Speaker 2: I thought, this is a platform to find pretty girls
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It just became, it grew and
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Speaker 2: blossom to be what it is today. But you know,
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Speaker 2: I was on Instagram where you can only take pictures
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Speaker 2: and one NIC's outfit. So I feel like I grew
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Speaker 2: with the platform. So I'm enjoy and have fun on
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Speaker 2: the platform and it made me millions of dollars.
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're because when I was I
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Speaker 4: listened to we were talking about earlier some of your interviews,
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Speaker 4: and I listened to how you were talking about how
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Speaker 4: you like do like the promotions sometimes for other artists
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Speaker 4: and whatever, and I was like, this is how like
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Speaker 4: an influencer works. Like do you consider yourself an influencer too?
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Speaker 4: Or like it's just you?
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Speaker 2: I mean to be honest, I only wrap on the weekends.
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Speaker 2: I'm keep it real. I'm more of a lot of
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Speaker 2: things than an artist. I'm a CEO, I'm a I'm
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Speaker 2: a philanthropist in my community. I'm a motive, motivational speaker
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Speaker 2: and financial advisor consulting for a lot of people in
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Speaker 2: different companies as well. I own six different LLC's, two corporations.
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Speaker 2: I sell boats all all forms of streaming up from
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Speaker 2: being a YouTuber with TikToker only fans rapping like I've done,
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Speaker 2: I do it. I've done it all that's within my
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Speaker 2: respected realm of hustling, you know what I mean. So
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Speaker 2: rapping is just something that's first nature to me because
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Speaker 2: I've been doing in my whole life. I've been recording
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Speaker 2: in professional studios is nineteen ninety six, when I was
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Speaker 2: like six years old. I've been wrapping my whole life.
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Speaker 2: Is just something that I just do with that I'm
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Speaker 2: good at. But I happened to be one of those
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Speaker 2: people that's just tendented enough to where I can do
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Speaker 2: anything and still be successful make means of dollars of conversation.
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Speaker 2: I could be making me as a dollars podcasting, comedian, acting.
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Speaker 2: I'm just one of those stars with just multitanted but rapping.
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Speaker 2: It's a strong suit that I have lyrically, and that
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Speaker 2: it does get overshadowed and overlook because I'm self charismatic,
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But you know it's a
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Speaker 2: gifting of courage because you know, it's certain areas where
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Speaker 2: it calls to have intelligence, conversation and charisma, and a
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Speaker 2: lot of artists don't have that in those areas. So
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Speaker 2: you may have good music and a good song that
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Speaker 2: lasts momentarily, but you don't laugh last for a lifetime
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Speaker 2: because people not invested to you as a person, as
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Speaker 2: a as a human being more than just your music.
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Speaker 2: You know, music is subjective. Sometimes it's good, sometimes people
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Speaker 2: don't care for it. But everybody always loves a great
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Speaker 2: personality in a great mind.
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Speaker 4: But does it get to you sometimes? Like when you
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Speaker 4: just drop that frees, I think.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah and our knock life yeah.
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Speaker 4: Like and people were like, yo, he really be going,
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Speaker 4: and like it's like almost like people are always relearning
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Speaker 4: that that's what you do. Naturally. Does that piss you
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Speaker 4: sometimes because it's like you do this?
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Speaker 2: I mean honestly, I always been one of them type
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Speaker 2: of people. That's like I've been taking my flowers my
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Speaker 2: entire career. I'm sure the man is. I don't know
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Speaker 2: how familiar y'all are with me, but I know so
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Speaker 2: the main very familiar with my career. They've been we've
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Speaker 2: been talking to each other and trying to get me
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Speaker 2: up here for years, since early early in my career
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Speaker 2: when I was doing the Sauce Twins. So I've always
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Speaker 2: known and I've always been very vocal and confident about
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Speaker 2: the fact that I know I'm one of the best
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Speaker 2: rappers to ever live, not just of my generation or
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Speaker 2: not just from Texas, like I know for a million percent.
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Speaker 2: In fact, lyrically ball for ball, similar for similarly analogy
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Speaker 2: for analogy, metaphor for metaphor storytelling having actual substance, meaning
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Speaker 2: a message that people can actually grab knowledge, wholesomness, information
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Speaker 2: from pain, struggle and healing through the things that we
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Speaker 2: go through being black people in America, coming from poverty,
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Speaker 2: coming from struggle, broken broken parenting, or taking the struggle
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Speaker 2: part out of it, but just elite punchline skills and
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Speaker 2: delivery and catuses like I've shown over my ten year
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Speaker 2: spanning my career that I'm not only I'm one of
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Speaker 2: the best, but I'm also one of the most prolific
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Speaker 2: rappers to come out of my generation and generations before me,
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Speaker 2: and then being there.
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Speaker 3: He's not putting sauce on that I'm not. I'm telling you.
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Speaker 2: And I'm from the South, and I'm from the South.
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Speaker 2: I'm from Houston, Texas. You know what I'm saying. I'm
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Speaker 2: from the same place as Scar fights the Cowboys, is it.
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Speaker 2: And I'm looked at. I'm renowned, respected by New York
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Speaker 2: and New York rappers more than anywhere else. My biggest
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Speaker 2: market is New York. Houston or well, Texas is my
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Speaker 2: first market and then New York is my second.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you should give him a quick sixteen just just
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Speaker 1: because before we keep keep the interview going.
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Speaker 2: I mean I could, but I really not a I'm
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Speaker 2: a I'm a freestyle rapper. I don't like had them
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Speaker 2: right ritten balls.
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Speaker 1: You can give him something that you've already given them before,
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Speaker 1: just so they know, just a little sample you have
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Speaker 1: A ain't ever heard sauce walking rap.
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Speaker 2: Must be I think a lot.
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Speaker 4: I think I think yeah, but I would love to
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Speaker 4: hear the person you trying to get.
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Speaker 2: Out of it. I ain't never dripping about it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know it is.
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Speaker 3: The weekend, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm a freestyle you know, I want
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Speaker 2: to be like really on their mood and perform like
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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I really can't to talk,
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Speaker 2: but I will like it ain't nothing to it but
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Speaker 2: to do it. It ain't nothing. You know what I'm
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Speaker 2: saying about freestyle. Right now, I'm gonna be like mom,
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Speaker 2: some ace time ship, but more than some sid ship.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna like get the wrapping about the stuff in
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Speaker 2: the room. I'm hide in the broom being this look
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Speaker 2: up like a balloon. Come out the cocoon and fly
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Speaker 2: it in the butter tusef business pulled up No study
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Speaker 2: alligator now later slepter hater. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 2: being the sauce dripping major flavor Like I'm gonna just
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Speaker 2: go out the top like.
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Speaker 3: No I need to because he can really wrap.
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Speaker 5: I know that that hen just talking about things.
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 2: I know, I know.
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Speaker 5: You were talking about all your many business ventures and
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Speaker 5: all the things that you do. In the first record
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Speaker 5: on Sopot the two is master p and I really
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Speaker 5: love the relationship between Texas.
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Speaker 3: And New Orleans.
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Speaker 5: Uh, just talk to me about your your relationship with
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Speaker 5: master P Song.
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Speaker 3: And what you think. But go ahead.
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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a master P and in a lot
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Speaker 2: of different areas, you know what I'm saying. And I
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Speaker 2: respect the direction and some of the principles that master
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Speaker 2: P implemented in his career to get where he is.
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Speaker 2: And I also feel that, and I've been told this
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Speaker 2: by some of the label execs and people that I
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Speaker 2: do do business with or have done business within the industry,
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Speaker 2: that some of the deal structures that I've created are
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Speaker 2: kind of like master P deals because it's like very
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Speaker 2: rare where artists can sign a deal with an any
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Speaker 2: major label or major label, get millions of dollars and
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Speaker 2: still keep his entire catalog separated from that contractual agreement
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Speaker 2: and having a record label with I got fifty fifty artists,
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Speaker 2: well producers of artists as well, but forty some artists
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Speaker 2: and ten producers signed to my record label, my distribution company,
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Speaker 2: and I have u those forty some are artists. Probably
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Speaker 2: like seven or eight of those artists are international from
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Speaker 2: like here, Shima, Japan, Puerto Rico, Venezuela Europe. So like,
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Speaker 2: I think that I've created a cult fan base and
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Speaker 2: the following somewhat similar to No Limit and Master P
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Speaker 2: with Saucewalker and the Sauce Family. T yourself.
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Speaker 3: But in that song you're talking about pimping.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm always talking about the pimping. I mean,
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Speaker 2: but you know, it's the P is a lot of things.
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Speaker 2: It's being a pimp, is being a players, being a president,
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Speaker 2: is being prestigious, it's being professional, it's being power, It's
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Speaker 2: being a lot of things being a p You know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And I represent all of those titles
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Speaker 2: very well. But I'm who created P.
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Speaker 3: It come from Texas or they come from.
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Speaker 2: Saying the TURNP pushing P. Well, I don't push P.
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Speaker 2: What we do is something different. The p itself don't
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Speaker 2: come from no no rappers or none of that. The
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Speaker 2: psself come from the game. It comes from a man
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Speaker 2: with a plan and a woman with a vagina that's
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Speaker 2: a little bit finer. That's what the P comes from.
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Speaker 2: All the other stuff is like fabricated or extra like
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Speaker 2: you can make it sound cool, like saying you're pushing paper.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that that was like about
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Speaker 2: the most decent explanations that I feel that that that
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Speaker 2: that that that was given from that perspective. But you know,
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Speaker 2: the p is to be the ultimate player, you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And there's two sides of it. You
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Speaker 2: can be a player, you can be a pimp, you
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. A pimp is somebody who leads
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Speaker 2: and tells people or gives a person a task or
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Speaker 2: a strategy to go make money. However you make money.
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Speaker 2: It's not just about a woman getting money from a man.
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Speaker 2: And you know what I'm saying, it's not just about
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Speaker 2: sex and positive it's way bigger than that. A woman
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Speaker 2: can or a woman or any person can go and
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Speaker 2: make money doing somebody else's will, doing somebody else's strategy.
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Speaker 2: But you can look at that persons they're too lazy
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Speaker 2: to do the job, or they not maybe may not
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Speaker 2: have the skills, not the skills, but they just can't
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Speaker 2: do what you can do. It's like you have a
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Speaker 2: lot of bosses that work on the field where it
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Speaker 2: was a pit of time where they did used to
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Speaker 2: do what everybody does, but they just learned the business
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Speaker 2: and now they just manage and tell everybody what else
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Speaker 2: to do while they're just there. That's all a pimp
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Speaker 2: is as a manager, somebody that gives you instructions to
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Speaker 2: do something that either they know how to do or
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Speaker 2: they prefer to you to do it, and they just
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Speaker 2: evaluate what you're doing like a coach, a life coach.
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Speaker 2: A player, though, is somebody who fuck with people that
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Speaker 2: already got the money. I just play my way into
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Speaker 2: the situation. You know what I'm saying. A lot of
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Speaker 2: those cases, the woman is the player exactly. So why
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Speaker 2: would you not PAYMP when all women are playing on men?
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Speaker 2: And respectfully though respectfully and it not into to not
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Speaker 2: say that it's a negative thing, but to not acknowledge
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Speaker 2: the fact that the world in society is systematically created
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Speaker 2: to where a woman it's not even necessarily by her
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Speaker 2: her choice and her own decisions, but just the way
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Speaker 2: that the world is. If she's able to be beautiful
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Speaker 2: and perpetuate her image, opportunities, relationships, and the lust of
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Speaker 2: the hope that a man would have some type of
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Speaker 2: intimacy with this woman opens up a whole different doors
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Speaker 2: for this woman that the average man and the average
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Speaker 2: human being cannot get past. It changes a woman whole
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Speaker 2: trajectory of life. Women growing up in today's day age
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Speaker 2: are preparing themselves to be it's not I don't even
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Speaker 2: it's not even an Instagram model, it's just, let's just say,
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Speaker 2: a bad bitch. Women are more training themselves in today's
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Speaker 2: name era to be a bad bitch on social media,
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Speaker 2: on YouTube, or just the everyday walk of life than
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Speaker 2: they are training themselves to be a business owner or
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Speaker 2: to be a a fucking a college student.
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Speaker 4: The women you're talking to, because you also got women
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Speaker 4: who are training themselves to do that, but they're also.
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Speaker 3: Bad but then went to college.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so this again, again, again again again. Okay,
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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan played, Michael Jordan play baseball, but he's still
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Speaker 2: a basketball player. Deon Sanders played baseball, He's still a
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Speaker 2: football player. A lot of women have the in certain
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Speaker 2: and so also men go through this as well. But
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Speaker 2: the thing about it is that beauty is not usually
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Speaker 2: or being handsome or being attractive is not usually profitable
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Speaker 2: for every single man on earth the way that it
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Speaker 2: is for women, meaning that, okay, look at it from
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Speaker 2: this perspective, Sex for a man's earned this morning. Sex
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Speaker 2: for a woman is given. You understand the difference between
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Speaker 2: the two. For a man to court a woman, for
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Speaker 2: a man that has sexual intercourse, for a man to
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Speaker 2: enjoy a woman's uh intimacy and vulnerability, he has to
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Speaker 2: earn that privilege and earn that right for me, nor
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Speaker 2: they don't. So I'm not saying, y'all for all women
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Speaker 2: in general. What I'm saying is that a woman can
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Speaker 2: have her plans and her goal set out. Let's just
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Speaker 2: say a woman in real estate, right, you have two
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Speaker 2: different women in real estate. You have a beautiful woman
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Speaker 2: that's in real estate. You have another woman who is
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Speaker 2: also beautiful, but let's just say let's just say she's
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Speaker 2: plus sized, or let's just say she's a little older.
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Speaker 2: She can have the same body type as a young woman,
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Speaker 2: but she's a little older. To give another age and
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Speaker 2: not make it about body shaming. Okay, the more in shape,
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Speaker 2: beautiful presented body inside of those business suits, she's going
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Speaker 2: to get a lot of more brokering deals. She's going
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Speaker 2: to get a lot of more inquiries. She's going to
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Speaker 2: get a lot of more men who are going to
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Speaker 2: be helpful in assisting in her journey as being a
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Speaker 2: real estate agent, because all of those men have a
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Speaker 2: secret agenda to in some way tape or form have
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Speaker 2: sex with her.
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Speaker 4: And we know that. And yeah, we know that. We
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Speaker 4: know pretty privilege exists, and a lot of times we
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Speaker 4: ignore it.
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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying, rubbing her head and she know
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Speaker 3: he telling the truth.
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Speaker 4: Didn't say anything. The only thing I didn't agree with.
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Speaker 4: I think it's the way you phrased it. But understanding
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Speaker 4: the break that I get what you're saying. I just
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Speaker 4: don't want to.
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that every woman in the world is
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Speaker 2: like it is the divine in just to like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm finna just go make money. Just that's that's what
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Speaker 2: was the worst systematically does not want to be a
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Speaker 2: bad bitch in today's damn era.
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Speaker 4: It's like, but a bad bitch is different than so
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Speaker 4: all I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Beautiful woman, every woman is seeing something. Every woman is beautiful,
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Speaker 2: bad it is something different. Every woman is beautiful.
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Speaker 1: Beautiful conversation we had this morning, because what I was
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Speaker 1: talking about this morning was like, you know, they were
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Speaker 1: saying that I get mad when certain women be like,
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Speaker 1: I ain't dating no man if you can't do nothing
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Speaker 1: for me, that's not true. It's a mutually beneficial thing, right,
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Speaker 1: Everybody gonna do something everybody, but the raggedy ones be talking.
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Speaker 3: The raggety ones that be like, I ain't doing nothing,
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Speaker 3: somebody ain't doing nothing for me. Ain't nobody going to
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Speaker 3: do nothing for you? Because you're raggedy?
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Speaker 2: I feel I feel that, I feel that. As much
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Speaker 2: as I want to agree with what you're saying, I
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Speaker 2: can't agree with that because it's again, that's why it
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Speaker 2: goes best to my resinal statement. There are more men
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Speaker 2: that are in positions of power, positions of success, that
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Speaker 2: also have families, half wives, have children, have great things
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Speaker 2: going for theyself, that risk everything that they have. For women,
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Speaker 2: there's raggedy every day.
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Speaker 4: They don't never cheat with nobody better.
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Speaker 2: Okay. So with that being said, so they'd be saying
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Speaker 2: how much how much value is actually being set on
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Speaker 2: the man and in his position of what he brings
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Speaker 2: to the type in the relationship, versus to what a
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Speaker 2: woman brings to the type of by just being a
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Speaker 2: beautiful flower in the room. That's just the word, that's
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Speaker 2: just the that's just the way. And I don't blame
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Speaker 2: the women or fought the women at all for it,
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Speaker 2: because that's their species, that's their femininity. That if them
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Speaker 2: being beautiful creates opportunities and open doors and gives gives
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Speaker 2: them privileges that the man doesn't necessarily earn, then you
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Speaker 2: just respect the powers that be. But if you happen
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Speaker 2: to be one of those alpha males wanted because you
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Speaker 2: were thinking about this, you have to also realize that
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Speaker 2: a woman is only the prize to the men that
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Speaker 2: want her. A woman is never the prize to the
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Speaker 2: man that she want.
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Speaker 3: Oh that makes sense, you know.
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying. A woman is never the prize to
18:19
Speaker 2: the man that she wants. She's only a prize to
18:21
Speaker 2: the men that want her. Because in most cases in life,
18:24
Speaker 2: most men cannot have sex and physical relationships at their
18:30
Speaker 2: own will with the women that they truly desire. Like
18:33
Speaker 2: they have to get what they can get. That's why
18:36
Speaker 2: some guys you'll be like, you may look at this
18:38
Speaker 2: guy like, oh, this guy is so handsome and he's
18:40
Speaker 2: so successful, he so why would he fuck with this
18:42
Speaker 2: type of girl? Why would he give why would he
18:44
Speaker 2: portray this type of girl? Whatever? But you have to
18:47
Speaker 2: understand it, he's probably not even in most cases they're
18:50
Speaker 2: not used to having access to so much women because
18:53
Speaker 2: they didn't have so much money, or didn't have so
18:55
Speaker 2: much time, or didn't have so much whatever that they
18:57
Speaker 2: had that was conflicting from expressing their sexual needs attracting
19:03
Speaker 2: with other women. So now that they have the or
19:06
Speaker 2: come a little tied with this, my stuff is kind
19:07
Speaker 2: of put together. Now. I want to go cheat, I
19:09
Speaker 2: want to go explore.
19:10
Speaker 3: I want to do this, or you might have been
19:12
Speaker 3: lucky enough to me just sold me.
19:14
Speaker 1: And I think I get what you're saying, but I
19:15
Speaker 1: think everything isn't physical appearance. A lot of times, sometimes
19:18
Speaker 1: it's just about connecting with a person on an emotional
19:20
Speaker 1: level or a spiritual level.
19:21
Speaker 3: But you got to take the time to do that.
19:23
Speaker 1: But I do agree with the overall sentiment that you're
19:25
Speaker 1: making because I was saying that this morning, men literally
19:29
Speaker 1: recreate our lives for women. That true, everything we do
19:34
Speaker 1: is for women. I wouldn't get a headcut. I don't
19:36
Speaker 1: care about that we.
19:37
Speaker 3: Dress for women.
19:38
Speaker 1: We do these things because we're trying to attract beautiful women.
19:42
Speaker 3: That's just is what it is.
19:44
Speaker 2: Or or even if it's not necessary to check certain women,
19:49
Speaker 2: it's about a woman just valuing and respecting who I
19:54
Speaker 2: am as a man, how I present myself. If I
19:57
Speaker 2: respect myself enough to stay clean, stay in shape, stay cut, state,
20:02
Speaker 2: making money of having a car, having opportunity, having stabidity,
20:06
Speaker 2: having somewhere for you to sleep, state, even if you
20:08
Speaker 2: have all these things on your own as a woman
20:09
Speaker 2: that you bring to the table. But again, a man
20:12
Speaker 2: will take you without those things a woman won't take.
20:16
Speaker 2: In most cases, a woman won't take a man without
20:19
Speaker 2: those things. And if she does, then she has to
20:21
Speaker 2: be ridiculed about the women and the femine members around her,
20:24
Speaker 2: because girl, whilere you fucking with that nigga? With that guy,
20:27
Speaker 2: he done got this and this and that, and you
20:28
Speaker 2: take care of him this and this and that, instead
20:30
Speaker 2: of empowering her and saying, Okay, well he this man
20:32
Speaker 2: really loves you and he want to be with you,
20:34
Speaker 2: and he comes home every night. So put that other
20:37
Speaker 2: energy into that. You take it down from that man.
20:39
Speaker 2: How can I help him be bigger and better and stronger,
20:42
Speaker 2: because this God does, actually does want to be committed
20:44
Speaker 2: to what I have going on versus to I think
20:47
Speaker 2: people just be going I don't even want to say
20:49
Speaker 2: going out of their means. But it's just I don't
20:53
Speaker 2: know that relationship shit gets. It's what it's tedious.
20:55
Speaker 4: So you're talking about like people becoming like popping, right
20:59
Speaker 4: and things changing. When did you realize like you were popping?
21:01
Speaker 2: Like I was born, I was popping. I knew I
21:03
Speaker 2: was propping. I ain't know no, just just I knew
21:06
Speaker 2: I was him my whole life. I've been him him.
21:09
Speaker 2: I came out to womb him, I've been I've been
21:12
Speaker 2: like a start my whole life. Like I said earlier,
21:15
Speaker 2: I've been wrapping my whole life. I never was like
21:17
Speaker 2: one of those kids that was like confused about what
21:19
Speaker 2: I wanted to be when I grew up or what
21:21
Speaker 2: was gonna happen for me. Like I always knew I
21:23
Speaker 2: was gonna be an entertainer. I always know I was
21:25
Speaker 2: gonna be a rapper. I always knew I was gonna
21:27
Speaker 2: be flys. I know, and I was handsome my whole life.
21:30
Speaker 2: I always knew that that was even say that for me,
21:33
Speaker 2: like I understand the difference between being a handsome man
21:37
Speaker 2: but just a man that don't have natural you know
21:40
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, the ability to just captivate a woman's attention.
21:44
Speaker 3: Don't want to tell nobody ugly for nothing.
21:49
Speaker 4: I really enjoyed the conversation you have a podcast.
21:56
Speaker 2: Said you said, I don't want to call anybody ugly.
21:58
Speaker 3: You ain't wanna call the girl.
22:02
Speaker 2: I'm so I've been saying certain stuff about with girls
22:05
Speaker 2: or just with people in there. People just wanting to
22:07
Speaker 2: attack me from my opinion.
22:09
Speaker 3: But everybody checking.
22:11
Speaker 2: Oh man, he's so informative, Like I would love to
22:13
Speaker 2: watch a podcast on top of then some of that.
22:15
Speaker 4: Should I say, sometimes you be calling like you be
22:19
Speaker 4: calling people out for stuff like that's what I when
22:21
Speaker 4: I hear your name, that's it.
22:22
Speaker 2: Like it is. I know not I've been going to
22:24
Speaker 2: change that.
22:25
Speaker 4: The Drake moment was the moment.
22:27
Speaker 2: That's when a lot of people know me from controversial
22:29
Speaker 2: ship like that. Yeah, yeah, i'mnn stand on the business
22:32
Speaker 2: regardless of whoever whatever you call.
22:34
Speaker 1: It's funny though, because you called Drake Off a cultural
22:36
Speaker 1: appropriation way before Kendrick did.
22:38
Speaker 2: I did. I did. I definitely did. And if my
22:43
Speaker 2: if my whole city would have supported what I was
22:47
Speaker 2: on back then for the reasons that I did it,
22:50
Speaker 2: then we would have got the same reaction that Kendrick
22:53
Speaker 2: Lamore in California did, and I think it's just a
22:55
Speaker 2: beautiful thing with again no discredit to either one or artists,
23:00
Speaker 2: because again I have nothing to do with that shit,
23:02
Speaker 2: and I don't give a fuck about that shit because
23:03
Speaker 2: I'm a millionaire, I'm Southwalker, and I made it. I
23:05
Speaker 2: beat the black ball of the rap games of those
23:09
Speaker 2: typeosittion scenarios. But to speak on that particular situation is
23:13
Speaker 2: that it's just a beautiful thing to see the outcome
23:19
Speaker 2: of an entire city and then entire state standing behind
23:23
Speaker 2: the artist that represents them, will it represents the culture
23:25
Speaker 2: and just trying to defend for their culture and the
23:28
Speaker 2: culture itself, not trying to mediate or prohibit their artists
23:38
Speaker 2: from fending for their culture, but instead standing behind them
23:42
Speaker 2: and supporting that ideal. And that's the difference between appreciation
23:47
Speaker 2: and appropriation, and that's what creates a bigger landscape of
23:53
Speaker 2: economy and opportunity for that city, because regardless of New
23:57
Speaker 2: York is the same way if somebody was to come
23:59
Speaker 2: to New York and try to appropriate New York culching
24:03
Speaker 2: and style and not give back to it. Like, I
24:07
Speaker 2: don't know who's a good example to use, but because
24:09
Speaker 2: nobody does that in fuck New York. Nobody come to
24:12
Speaker 2: New York and act like a battle rapper, or act
24:14
Speaker 2: like a lyricist, or act like a fucking drill rapper
24:18
Speaker 2: out there. Don't do music with the drill rappers. Don't
24:21
Speaker 2: come rap with you cannot do that. It doesn't make sense.
24:24
Speaker 2: You can't. When everybody was doing this little this ship
24:27
Speaker 2: and doing that little Jersey dance. Nobody from around the
24:31
Speaker 2: world did that dance or made music on that sound
24:35
Speaker 2: frequency without acknowledging that it came from those places of
24:39
Speaker 2: bringing those kids from New Jersey on stage or in
24:42
Speaker 2: the East Coast is going to govern that the South
24:46
Speaker 2: was in Texas, Houston especially was supposed to govern government.
24:50
Speaker 2: And you know what I'm saying, it's cool. Look, somebody
24:52
Speaker 2: got to do it, and I did it. I ain't
24:54
Speaker 2: tripping them. Bro.
24:54
Speaker 1: Don't you think Houston probably looks at Drake different because
24:57
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be Houston.
25:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't give a fuck what Houston look at it.
25:03
Speaker 2: It's what I said. I'm a j prince too, Like
25:07
Speaker 2: what I'm my world is a law. What I'm saying
25:10
Speaker 2: is what I speak is the real opinions of the
25:14
Speaker 2: city of Houston, the people that's in the south side,
25:15
Speaker 2: the people that's on the north side, the people that
25:19
Speaker 2: they just ain't got the platform or the voice or
25:22
Speaker 2: the the not gonna get the response, and I'm gonna
25:25
Speaker 2: get in. They can't faith the heat, faith the water.
25:27
Speaker 2: Everybody know, I got the manpower, I got the money,
25:31
Speaker 2: I had the well with the validity, whatever this needed
25:34
Speaker 2: necessary from my age then to right now. Just like
25:36
Speaker 2: I've shown people, it's a lot of people that thought
25:38
Speaker 2: I was gonna be overnight or fly by night artists
25:41
Speaker 2: or artist that. And then you also understand realized that
25:44
Speaker 2: I'm independent. I've been independent my entire rap career ten years.
25:47
Speaker 2: I've been in rep game ten years now, going on
25:49
Speaker 2: eleven years, and I'm a multi millionaire, still more relevant
25:52
Speaker 2: the majority of the rappers that came out in my
25:54
Speaker 2: general in my generation of my period, my time period.
25:58
Speaker 2: Ten years later, I'm still making all this money and
26:01
Speaker 2: still growing. So you know, it's more of a thing
26:07
Speaker 2: for me, like if if somebody don't take the chance
26:12
Speaker 2: to make the step or to speak up on it,
26:14
Speaker 2: then I'm just like everybody else is just complaining behind
26:17
Speaker 2: closed doors and being scary or just you know what
26:19
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And then what I was saying it was
26:22
Speaker 2: not no, It's not make believe. It's simple. It's not
26:24
Speaker 2: fucking rocket science. It was simple. Shit. If you in
26:27
Speaker 2: this city and you saying like what you just said,
26:29
Speaker 2: you just said that it wouldn't be no, it wouldn't
26:32
Speaker 2: be no Drake without Houston. Okay. So at the time,
26:35
Speaker 2: why did Drake not and still to this day, why
26:37
Speaker 2: did Drake not have no bunch of records with Houston artists?
26:39
Speaker 2: You aren't doing that with Eleanta. If you love Leanta
26:42
Speaker 2: and he got it's seven, eight, nine, fifteen artists that
26:45
Speaker 2: you got songs with in Atleanta, because why not only
26:49
Speaker 2: does it not only does you know that the city
26:52
Speaker 2: of Atleanta was gonna look at you weird for not
26:56
Speaker 2: doing that, look at you and feel a certain type
26:57
Speaker 2: of way by you by you not making those I
27:00
Speaker 2: was making those moments with the city. But you knew
27:02
Speaker 2: that it was also beneficial for you as an artist
27:06
Speaker 2: to make music with these songs because the leveling of
27:09
Speaker 2: stardom and momentum it feeds each other. Versus you feel
27:12
Speaker 2: that I'm just the a side all this this lifting up,
27:15
Speaker 2: this musician. But as far as the city of Houston,
27:18
Speaker 2: you're looking at it for the market share. All of
27:21
Speaker 2: these countries people in Houston, Nigga, all of this land,
27:24
Speaker 2: all these clubs, all these women, all these people in
27:27
Speaker 2: these big ass arenas and eventsments go on, but they
27:29
Speaker 2: don't have a large community and representatives of people that
27:34
Speaker 2: are knowledgeable about the music industry, that have resources that
27:38
Speaker 2: can say, Hey, y'all been around this artist and you
27:40
Speaker 2: help them. You was in the studio when they was
27:42
Speaker 2: making that song. You told them to add this and
27:44
Speaker 2: this on the hook. You get a couple of writer
27:46
Speaker 2: points for that. You was up and there where you
27:48
Speaker 2: made the b were supposed to get. Okay, you y'all
27:51
Speaker 2: was in the You brought him to Houston, and you
27:53
Speaker 2: took him there to this club. You took them in
27:54
Speaker 2: this hood, and you may introduced them to Charlamagne. It's
27:57
Speaker 2: a feature in the song come behind that in every
27:59
Speaker 2: other the city. It's a long live California. It's a
28:02
Speaker 2: long list artist from the Bay all the way to
28:04
Speaker 2: la They got Drakes with songs with Drake. So how
28:07
Speaker 2: did Drake love Houston so much at that time and
28:11
Speaker 2: not have music with artists that you are uplifting from
28:14
Speaker 2: this community. Fuck me, I don't care if it was
28:16
Speaker 2: bigger than me. I didn't care about the sign on me.
28:20
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, but what I would like
28:21
Speaker 2: up and from then to now, Travis Scott is the
28:24
Speaker 2: only rapper that still got us on with Drake Travis
28:27
Speaker 2: Scott Again, what I just said earlier, it makes sense.
28:29
Speaker 2: It's an equal trade. It's not necessarily like, oh bro,
28:32
Speaker 2: I'm just making it. I'm helping Houston and changing your
28:34
Speaker 2: life and changing the career your career, and it's bigger
28:37
Speaker 2: than's it's saying, Oh well, a person wants to Drake
28:40
Speaker 2: stimulus package, about the fuck out of that. It's about
28:42
Speaker 2: fair exchange and business. If if you are using the
28:47
Speaker 2: lineage and the culture of somebody's city, of somebody's hometown
28:50
Speaker 2: in backyard, do something that helps not yourself and your
28:54
Speaker 2: your your more of your notoriety for your own benefit
28:57
Speaker 2: with the ladies and the people in the city. Do
28:59
Speaker 2: something that actually make still economy of that city in
29:02
Speaker 2: music and musicians bigger and greater. So therefore we can
29:05
Speaker 2: have Roland Loud in Houston, we can have more young
29:09
Speaker 2: artists performing on bigger platforms, Jimmy Filing and Jay Lennon
29:14
Speaker 2: and all this other shit, because the artist of this
29:16
Speaker 2: magnitude is living in our backyard. That's all I was saying,
29:19
Speaker 2: not just for me, just for anybody.
29:22
Speaker 3: Did y'all have that conversation, because there was a video
29:24
Speaker 3: of y'all.
29:25
Speaker 2: I mean, I vocalized and had whatever I say, whatever
29:28
Speaker 2: I feel is something that I to anybody and everybody
29:30
Speaker 2: to they face behind closed, like everybody know this about me.
29:34
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck, Like when it comes to
29:35
Speaker 2: stuff like that, I just don't give a fuck, Like
29:37
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, because I've been rich before rap.
29:39
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be rich during rap. I'm gonna be rich
29:41
Speaker 2: after rap. I'm gonna be real. I wrap for money
29:45
Speaker 2: like I don't wrap for like, Yeah, I wrap for money. Now.
29:51
Speaker 2: It's because I understand let me say that, let me
29:54
Speaker 2: make that make sense. I understand that what rapping does
29:58
Speaker 2: is create money for everybody there around me, not just myself.
30:02
Speaker 2: And that's what also plays more into the conversation was
30:05
Speaker 2: having other about the Drake shit, because it's not about Drake,
30:08
Speaker 2: not tring to be just steady talking about Drake and
30:09
Speaker 2: harping on him. It's just period in hip hop and
30:12
Speaker 2: black culture. Period. If I'm going to foreign land and
30:15
Speaker 2: I have resources and you have resources that I want
30:18
Speaker 2: to also generate from, we're supposed to share, we' suposed
30:21
Speaker 2: to trade, and that's what makes everybody stronger. So it
30:25
Speaker 2: just doesn't It didn't make sense, and it was just
30:27
Speaker 2: a total line of disrespect to me at the time,
30:30
Speaker 2: knowing that this this, this particular and this will be
30:34
Speaker 2: for any celebrity and artists, this particular superstar, this particular
30:38
Speaker 2: entity that's in my city can simply make two songs
30:42
Speaker 2: with two different artists here, that's going to create so
30:45
Speaker 2: much revenue from ESPN's to the talk shows, to Nikes
30:51
Speaker 2: and all these huge companies seeing that, Oh wow, there's
30:55
Speaker 2: there's there's money, there's momentum, there's lucrativeness in the state
30:58
Speaker 2: of Texas. Look at these artists working with these artists. Okay,
31:01
Speaker 2: maybe it makes sense for us to run the NBA
31:02
Speaker 2: campaign behind this song with these artists when we have
31:05
Speaker 2: Toronto planning against the Houston Rockets, so Toronto playing against
31:08
Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks. We're gonna make sure that these artists
31:10
Speaker 2: are sitting on the sidelines that we do. And that's
31:13
Speaker 2: just all that that I understood from a business standpoint
31:15
Speaker 2: that that should be happening.
31:16
Speaker 1: Isn't that required the Houston artists too. I mean, Travis
31:19
Speaker 1: ain't no slops. Travis is a big.
31:20
Speaker 2: Deal and and and I vocally publicly have stood on
31:26
Speaker 2: the business and made Travis adhere to that type of
31:29
Speaker 2: shit Like that's me and Travis got a real brotherly relationship,
31:32
Speaker 2: Like it's in Houston. Know that, Like there's been times
31:34
Speaker 2: was still going on where I asked and require like
31:37
Speaker 2: Travis bro like it's do this with this artist, or
31:40
Speaker 2: acknowledge this artist, or like you know what I'm saying,
31:42
Speaker 2: Let's let's go do this music right here. And Trevis
31:45
Speaker 2: does it because Trevin understand Like that's the difference, Like
31:48
Speaker 2: Travis sond artists from Houston. Trevis has made music with
31:52
Speaker 2: all this from Houston. Traffick show up the music videos
31:54
Speaker 2: for allis from Houston, old and knew. He do concerts,
31:57
Speaker 2: put Houston artists on the on the bill, put him
31:59
Speaker 2: on his main performers. He does his due diligence. Megan A. Stallion,
32:03
Speaker 2: she does something she had songs with Softwalk. She got
32:06
Speaker 2: songs with Max o'cran, she got songs with Little key Y,
32:08
Speaker 2: she got song Bet Poky. That's really being from a city,
32:12
Speaker 2: being in appreciating the culture of me being in New York.
32:14
Speaker 2: I love New York. I made a New York album
32:16
Speaker 2: produced by New York producers with New York artist featured
32:19
Speaker 2: on it. You just seen Mayno just came through the window.
32:22
Speaker 2: Oh my boys, Suce I made songs with Mayno years
32:25
Speaker 2: and years and years ago. No disrespect to bun Bet.
32:28
Speaker 2: He's from Port Author, He's not from Houston. Make a
32:30
Speaker 2: lot of people trying to say, oh what Drake made
32:31
Speaker 2: a sound Bun Bun being not from Houston, No disrespect him.
32:34
Speaker 2: This is Houston, Texas you was talking about. You just
32:36
Speaker 2: said Houston. Did you say Port Author? Du say Houston?
32:38
Speaker 2: All right there.
32:41
Speaker 1: Next, you made an excellent point too on bootlet keV
32:45
Speaker 1: podcast that I want I want you to get into
32:47
Speaker 1: because I really loved it.
32:47
Speaker 3: You said it's the boule keV.
32:49
Speaker 1: You said only fans is providing women with a safer
32:52
Speaker 1: alternative to the streets and offering them a sense of
32:55
Speaker 1: intimate freedom.
32:56
Speaker 2: Yes, librate on that. I mean it's it's the alternate.
33:02
Speaker 2: It's the substitution to prostitution. It's a way for a
33:07
Speaker 2: woman to give a man the same ecstasy and fulfillment
33:10
Speaker 2: that he gets touching her body physically. But she could
33:15
Speaker 2: do it from the comfortability of her home, in a
33:17
Speaker 2: living room or in a ballroom and retain the physical
33:21
Speaker 2: side of her dignity. Now that may be in opinion
33:25
Speaker 2: from her family's, friends, co workers, and loved ones about
33:28
Speaker 2: her body being out there on pictures, But again we
33:31
Speaker 2: talked about earlier were living in the world where the
33:35
Speaker 2: average woman on the internet is showing you some form
33:38
Speaker 2: of skin. The average woman understands the algorithm feeds her
33:44
Speaker 2: pockets and feeds her marketing strategies much more. Where she
33:49
Speaker 2: looks appealing and sexually appealing to the eye of not
33:52
Speaker 2: just men, but the women who inspire to look like her.
33:56
Speaker 2: These are the things that are beneficial for her market
33:58
Speaker 2: place and share to set products because as a woman,
34:02
Speaker 2: nobody wants to buy. A man will buy a product
34:06
Speaker 2: from another rough looking man with a scruffy beard and
34:08
Speaker 2: with the with the woo because of the message behind
34:10
Speaker 2: the product. A woman not buying a product from another
34:13
Speaker 2: woman that she doesn't see in some shape of beautiful
34:17
Speaker 2: the way she looks at herself.
34:19
Speaker 3: So is that true, Lauren?
34:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much. When you start talking about that, I
34:24
Speaker 4: start thinking about it when I get my hair done,
34:26
Speaker 4: No I did. I didn't even see her.
34:28
Speaker 2: Thinking like I will go get a haircut from about head, motherfucker,
34:32
Speaker 2: when I would never go get a hair done.
34:34
Speaker 4: Come on, when I get my hair done to the.
34:37
Speaker 2: Dread lady, they go get your fune to put in now.
34:39
Speaker 4: And if I'm trying a new artist, I go to
34:41
Speaker 4: the Instagram and I want to see how she's doing
34:42
Speaker 4: her hair personally when she goes out. Maybe she not
34:44
Speaker 4: dressed up in a salon, but I do want to
34:46
Speaker 4: see how Sis looks on a daily because it's like,
34:48
Speaker 4: can she upkeep? Because then if she matched my upkeep,
34:50
Speaker 4: I know she's not gonna you're not gonna see my HD.
34:53
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I know. I'm sorry. I'm the facts man.
34:59
Speaker 4: You know it's not really I mean, I don't.
35:03
Speaker 5: I don't know if I care too much, like I
35:06
Speaker 5: think scrolling online.
35:07
Speaker 4: I support it, like I do like.
35:08
Speaker 5: Seeing women in their femininity, but it doesn't like swear
35:14
Speaker 5: me one way or the other.
35:15
Speaker 4: Whether I want to work with you or not.
35:16
Speaker 5: I want to work with you.
35:17
Speaker 4: If you do good work.
35:19
Speaker 2: Oh question what I'm saying.
35:21
Speaker 4: But I guess for you, like take the like is
35:23
Speaker 4: she like beautiful or not out?
35:26
Speaker 2: It's just.
35:28
Speaker 4: There you are brand wise, like there are certain brands
35:31
Speaker 4: that like if they read to you right now, it's
35:33
Speaker 4: not where you at. It's not matching aesthetic and you're
35:36
Speaker 4: not going to you're not leaning that way.
35:37
Speaker 2: What kind of what what? What kind of quarter you drive?
35:39
Speaker 2: If you don't mind me asking, I don't have a car,
35:41
Speaker 2: okay from New York. Okay, I'm trying to think, like,
35:44
Speaker 2: what's your favorite fashion brand? What's your favorite thing? Will
35:49
Speaker 2: fashion over fashion over? Okay?
35:53
Speaker 5: Really we're fashion over.
35:55
Speaker 3: I know that I would be flying. I thought i'd
35:57
Speaker 3: be like thrift store types.
35:59
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's you see what I'm saying. It still
36:02
Speaker 2: goes back. You know how fashion over became fashion over
36:05
Speaker 2: women liking for the women fashion over Give me the
36:08
Speaker 2: most beautiful women in the world, the most sexiest women
36:10
Speaker 2: in the world. Closed that look top tier, fashion that
36:14
Speaker 2: look high end designer. But we're giving it to you
36:16
Speaker 2: for free or the super affordable price. Exactly all you
36:21
Speaker 2: have to do is stretch out of a blanket and
36:23
Speaker 2: fit it across the body, and it can be so
36:26
Speaker 2: this woman. You put a blanket across the woman's body
36:29
Speaker 2: and she can go on the wrong with the t
36:30
Speaker 2: the men that's wearing Louis Vaton and Christian Dior and
36:34
Speaker 2: all this other shit. That's just the truth. I don't
36:37
Speaker 2: know how much you a man gotta go spend fifteen
36:41
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, six thousand, folks, it's very seldom in today's
36:44
Speaker 2: day and age that a man could go get the
36:48
Speaker 2: type of women that he wants in this world off
36:51
Speaker 2: of just a white a white tea, and a nice beard.
36:54
Speaker 3: Unless you fine, he got.
36:56
Speaker 4: To be fine, exactly. I'm gonna look at the jeans,
37:01
Speaker 4: like the jeans you got on. You got to watch
37:03
Speaker 4: like what because.
37:05
Speaker 2: A lot of women know that to find a fine
37:07
Speaker 2: man that don't got this ship together ain't nothing but
37:09
Speaker 2: another beer, responsibility and the problem good dick in the headache.
37:12
Speaker 2: A lot of women they get they waking up to
37:14
Speaker 2: that girl.
37:15
Speaker 4: It's not even about money either. It's like I want
37:17
Speaker 4: to like, it's so, how do you take care of yourself?
37:20
Speaker 4: Like because you don't even got Yeah, with the change.
37:29
Speaker 4: I can tell about the jeans like this is a
37:31
Speaker 4: wells healed.
37:34
Speaker 2: A man would look at A man would look at
37:36
Speaker 2: that same business and the same thing. Like, you know what,
37:38
Speaker 2: I see some flaws. I see some stuff wrong. But
37:40
Speaker 2: maybe let me give you some suggestions. Let me help
37:42
Speaker 2: you see I can make this big thing better. Let
37:45
Speaker 2: me get involved with this big you know what I'm saying.
37:48
Speaker 4: So I think the girl math basically that's what that's.
37:51
Speaker 2: B so, you know, but you know, for me, that's
37:55
Speaker 2: just how I be looking at stuff.
37:56
Speaker 1: Bro.
37:57
Speaker 3: I like the record. You got rules too, men, because
37:59
Speaker 3: I feel like there aren't any anymore.
38:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, it ain't nothing, and a lot of people need
38:02
Speaker 2: to learn from this shit. Earn from this shit. You
38:04
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You rule number one. I always
38:08
Speaker 2: move like a boss. You know what I'm saying. You know,
38:11
Speaker 2: h God, damn me. Keep your eyes open. You know
38:14
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Fuck the beef, Let's get to the cheese.
38:17
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to my boy
38:18
Speaker 2: boss man d lo yeoh man. You know all my
38:22
Speaker 2: Even when I make a music, it ain't like the
38:24
Speaker 2: lyrical ghet up gospel stuff. I still try to have
38:26
Speaker 2: a missage. I still try to have some knowledge and
38:28
Speaker 2: in some empowerments something that people can learn from and
38:30
Speaker 2: earn from, you know what I'm saying amongst all the
38:33
Speaker 2: ignorance and like like we were saying earlier, Like a
38:37
Speaker 2: lot of people like judge judge me by by my
38:43
Speaker 2: the way I am and the way I act. But
38:45
Speaker 2: I act stupid because I'm smarter than a lot of people.
38:49
Speaker 2: I play dumb because I understand the power that I possess.
38:52
Speaker 2: In the knowledge that I possess, it's actually dangerous, you
38:54
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So you know, I feel like
38:58
Speaker 2: this one little life, one chance at this video game
39:01
Speaker 2: that we got to live, there is a time and
39:03
Speaker 2: a place for everything. And if you don't understand the
39:06
Speaker 2: rules and the strategy that needed to be implemented in
39:09
Speaker 2: the game of life that you're playing, and you're plan
39:12
Speaker 2: to lose. So you know what I'm saying. I try
39:14
Speaker 2: to just try to keep that message in my music,
39:15
Speaker 2: even when we having fun that were in the club
39:17
Speaker 2: getting high and drunk, and even like as far as
39:20
Speaker 2: men like, it's a lot of shit that men need
39:22
Speaker 2: to just like my opinion is not just about women
39:25
Speaker 2: and shit like that. It's a lot of bullshit ass
39:27
Speaker 2: niggas out here. It's a lot of unworthy ass niggas,
39:30
Speaker 2: a lot of not king, not king built deserving men
39:34
Speaker 2: out here that need to be taught or need to
39:36
Speaker 2: be there, or need to be influenced.
39:38
Speaker 3: And so they start projecting that hurt on everybody.
39:40
Speaker 2: Else, right right right? You know what I'm saying. And
39:42
Speaker 2: I try to like as much as I have an
39:45
Speaker 2: opinion towards women, I have an opinion towards niggas as well,
39:47
Speaker 2: like y'all about how we should not saying saying, y'all,
39:51
Speaker 2: how we should be better. You know what I'm saying,
39:54
Speaker 2: how we could be you know, more useful to our
39:59
Speaker 2: women and into our community and to the world. You
40:01
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I believe that's what the pimping is.
40:03
Speaker 2: That what the is and me is period is like
40:05
Speaker 2: somebody just having a knowledge and the understanding and the
40:09
Speaker 2: accountability within themselves to say, I'm willing to do all
40:13
Speaker 2: these things to make myself better. And because I was
40:16
Speaker 2: able to go through the process of these things to
40:18
Speaker 2: make myself better and learn these learn these attributes, learn
40:21
Speaker 2: these skill set if you are going to be in
40:23
Speaker 2: my life. If you're going to be in a relationship
40:25
Speaker 2: in my life, then you have to follow some of
40:27
Speaker 2: the beliefs that I have because I have used these
40:30
Speaker 2: things to be successful. You know what I'm saying. That's
40:33
Speaker 2: just like a person who owns a company. I bought
40:35
Speaker 2: the building, I put all the equipment up here, but
40:38
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you the workload as far as
40:41
Speaker 2: what to do in this building to sell products and
40:45
Speaker 2: facilitate this store. But I'm the one that got to
40:48
Speaker 2: pay twenty thousand a month for this facility. I have
40:51
Speaker 2: to keep the cargo coming in. I have to do this,
40:53
Speaker 2: but it doesn't make sense for me to be in
40:55
Speaker 2: here doing the physical work. So I try to use
41:00
Speaker 2: that same thought process in life, like, Okay, if Nigga's
41:04
Speaker 2: gonna be around me, you're gonna be my brother, my partner,
41:08
Speaker 2: my business. I said, Nigga, you gotta be able to
41:11
Speaker 2: either teach me some, show me some, or help me
41:13
Speaker 2: do something. And I need to be able to teach
41:15
Speaker 2: yourself to show you something to help you do something,
41:18
Speaker 2: because if you can't use me, then I'm useless. If
41:22
Speaker 2: I can't use you, then you're useless. Then then who
41:25
Speaker 2: the fucks wants to be in a circle full of
41:26
Speaker 2: people with know nothing is being utilized. That's idole's time,
41:29
Speaker 2: I heard. I thought, that's what the devil's playground is,
41:31
Speaker 2: idle time.
41:32
Speaker 4: That's my grandma say. But with such an elevated way
41:36
Speaker 4: of learning and thinking like, there are still sometimes though,
41:39
Speaker 4: where like you put yourself on I won't even say
41:41
Speaker 4: put yourself but you get into some certain situations like
41:43
Speaker 4: that the high speed chase. How like is that like
41:47
Speaker 4: a thing of the not happening anymore?
41:49
Speaker 2: Like?
41:49
Speaker 4: How does a person that thinks and knows how valuable
41:51
Speaker 4: you are end up in a situation like that?
41:54
Speaker 2: Because not perfect?
42:05
Speaker 4: All right, whatever makes you comfortable.
42:11
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have fun in the joy life Walker, I'll
42:14
Speaker 2: give it them. But the point of what I'm trying
42:16
Speaker 2: to say is I'm still a street nigga. Man. I'm
42:20
Speaker 2: still again, I said, I only rap on the weekends.
42:22
Speaker 2: I spend a lot of my time in multiple cities
42:27
Speaker 2: just being out and about in the communities, in multiple
42:31
Speaker 2: different trap houses, chilling with rappers, like up and coming rappers,
42:35
Speaker 2: people who aspire to be rappers. I'm still like in
42:38
Speaker 2: a grid of it, you know. I might record. I
42:41
Speaker 2: don't always record in professional studios and backgrounds. Sometimes I'm
42:44
Speaker 2: recording in some apartments. You know what I'm saying, just
42:48
Speaker 2: to get that feeling in their true essence of where
42:51
Speaker 2: I started it with it, you know what I'm saying,
42:53
Speaker 2: And just to also be motivational piece for people to see,
42:59
Speaker 2: like you could tell success, you could be like you
43:02
Speaker 2: see a cyber truck on the internet and sat walk up,
43:04
Speaker 2: bringing the cyber truck right to your ghetto and right
43:06
Speaker 2: to your hood. And me having that that connection and
43:11
Speaker 2: openness to my background and where I come from, is
43:15
Speaker 2: still indulging in some of the activities that come from
43:17
Speaker 2: where I come from. Something that simpler and smoking weed
43:20
Speaker 2: and sip and drink or put you in a position
43:22
Speaker 2: to where it's like, oh damn, now I'm getting pulled over.
43:25
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I might be going through
43:27
Speaker 2: this and that and I still I know I said,
43:30
Speaker 2: I said, now I'm getting pulled out. You know what
43:32
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And you know it just be high b
43:35
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You know, like you know
43:37
Speaker 2: I was just in a situation where you first of all,
43:41
Speaker 2: would you know what I'm saying the way that you
43:43
Speaker 2: know it was just it is what it is. It is.
43:46
Speaker 2: I'm I would say this, I would say this without
43:50
Speaker 2: saying too much. I'd say this is that I grew
43:55
Speaker 2: up where if a car is telling me or following
44:00
Speaker 2: me fast with all the lights off, I'm trying to
44:02
Speaker 2: do two things, respond or respond, And in that situation
44:09
Speaker 2: I was. You know, that was my response. And I've
44:13
Speaker 2: had a history of responding that way, you know what
44:17
Speaker 2: I'm saying, in certain and certain cause, and I'm just
44:19
Speaker 2: growing to change that by myself. But at the end
44:21
Speaker 2: of the day, you know, it is what it is.
44:24
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
44:25
Speaker 1: It's about when you had the broomstick and the dude
44:27
Speaker 1: was coming at you with the knife.
44:30
Speaker 2: I'm just violent. I'm just no like meaning as far
44:33
Speaker 2: as like when somebody aggresses me, like brings aggression to me.
44:37
Speaker 2: I'm just that just how I am finishing. I don't
44:39
Speaker 2: got security and none of that. I don't do Like
44:41
Speaker 2: you just seen I come up here with five hundred
44:43
Speaker 2: thousand other chaina on. I ain't got no big tall
44:46
Speaker 2: person with black te on and in a little pouch
44:49
Speaker 2: like yeah, I ain't one of them. Type out my
44:52
Speaker 2: own security. I beat people up. I've been to the penitentiary.
44:56
Speaker 2: I've been fighting and defending myself my whole like my
44:58
Speaker 2: daddy six y five, Like I have no physical fear
45:04
Speaker 2: of confrontation, death for another man, weapons, gun like I
45:09
Speaker 2: just offrom off from Here's the taste is a place
45:11
Speaker 2: where guns or cell phones and wallets. A handgun is
45:14
Speaker 2: a cell phone. Where I'm from. Where I'm from, every
45:17
Speaker 2: person in this radio station got a handgun in their
45:19
Speaker 2: bag every day of their life. Every woman is trained
45:22
Speaker 2: normally regularly to walk around with a handgun. Every single
45:25
Speaker 2: one of y'all where I'm from, in the radio station
45:28
Speaker 2: right now while they're at work. You got your gun.
45:31
Speaker 2: You got your little pink toy Chris gun. She got
45:33
Speaker 2: her gun. You know what I'm saying. That's how so
45:37
Speaker 2: uh for that. That guy was just tripping like it was.
45:40
Speaker 2: He was a he's a homeless guy drug at it.
45:44
Speaker 2: He was tweaking on everybody, baring everybody, and then he
45:47
Speaker 2: came to me and my friend with that ship, and
45:50
Speaker 2: we just ain't going for this, especially me, Like I
45:53
Speaker 2: enjoy defending myself, like I I don't want to hear
45:58
Speaker 2: nobody I don't want to fight nobody. But when these
46:00
Speaker 2: situations occur, whether it's life or death, I just enjoyed
46:03
Speaker 2: defending myself because that is who I'm inspired by. Goku,
46:07
Speaker 2: I'm inspired by vegeta, I'm inspired by why you. I'm
46:11
Speaker 2: inspired by niggas, people that whoop ass. So when I'm
46:14
Speaker 2: put in a situation where I gotta whoop ass, I'm
46:16
Speaker 2: gonna whoop ass. You gonna You're gonna have to whoop me?
46:19
Speaker 1: Well, when do you give up the screen life styles?
46:21
Speaker 1: Because you you got a lot to offer.
46:25
Speaker 2: I mean, my personal opinion, I feel that life has
46:32
Speaker 2: just I don't think it's ever gonna prohibit the blessing
46:35
Speaker 2: for me to just completely walk away from the streets
46:37
Speaker 2: because what I was born into, and by me being
46:43
Speaker 2: born into this lifestyle, into this way of thinking, and
46:47
Speaker 2: to these relationships with people, I owe certain lords to
46:51
Speaker 2: certain relationships, certain accountability of going back to the community
47:01
Speaker 2: in which I was raised, then in the people that
47:04
Speaker 2: shared my struggles and be a vessel of cleansing and
47:09
Speaker 2: healing and teaching and prosperity to them. I have to
47:15
Speaker 2: go back and be with them. I have to go
47:18
Speaker 2: in those communities and be a part of the activities
47:22
Speaker 2: and the struggles and the conversations that's going on and
47:27
Speaker 2: from where I come from to make a difference. Yeah,
47:30
Speaker 2: just in general period. Can't you how you do have
47:34
Speaker 2: to be involved with a criminal aspect. That don't mean
47:36
Speaker 2: I have to be doing crime. I don't have to
47:38
Speaker 2: be doing crime, but I have to be able to
47:40
Speaker 2: If you want to tell somebody to stop sitting and crack,
47:42
Speaker 2: you have to be able to walk in the crack
47:44
Speaker 2: house where he's setting dope at and then offer him
47:46
Speaker 2: another job, another opportunity, another way that we can both
47:50
Speaker 2: sit at this table. We're going to compare this business opportunity,
47:53
Speaker 2: this business strategy compared to the scale and the dope,
47:56
Speaker 2: and I'm going to show you how this is going
47:57
Speaker 2: to be bore, beneficial and life changing for you than this.
47:59
Speaker 2: I cannot convince him to do that if I'm not
48:01
Speaker 2: willing to go into his habitat and his surroundings to
48:04
Speaker 2: convince him. I pulled up to the trenches in this
48:07
Speaker 2: car that you want the videos that you in here
48:09
Speaker 2: selling up to watching and the way that they live
48:11
Speaker 2: in and these videos, I'm living like that right here
48:14
Speaker 2: in your face, and I'm telling you that there are
48:16
Speaker 2: ways for you to use your same hustle, your same strategy,
48:20
Speaker 2: and infuse that with a different way of creating money.
48:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got to tell them jump in the calls,
48:28
Speaker 1: go to a restaurant because I can't sit in the
48:29
Speaker 1: track out the police come in here. They're not gonna says,
48:32
Speaker 1: walkers in here, opportunity.
48:34
Speaker 2: That's just a certain that's just a scenario that makes sense.
48:37
Speaker 2: But I still got to meet you at ground zero.
48:40
Speaker 4: We'll tell people put the guns down. But it's like
48:42
Speaker 4: people are literally that you got it's me or you sometimes.
48:46
Speaker 2: Exactly, it comes it comes to these places where we're
48:48
Speaker 2: getting shot at all day to understand why we have
48:51
Speaker 2: these guns now exactly, that's just like that's just like
48:55
Speaker 2: me with the box and shit. Okay, like you want
48:57
Speaker 2: want fuckers to stop shooting guns and all that, But
48:59
Speaker 2: then you also have to show them that you're willing
49:01
Speaker 2: to do what I don't what I want. I'm willing
49:05
Speaker 2: to do what I'm asking you to do. I'm willing
49:07
Speaker 2: to make the change, or I've already made the change,
49:09
Speaker 2: or I'm willing to take the risk, and I'm suggesting
49:11
Speaker 2: for you to take and I'm trying to make it
49:14
Speaker 2: look cool, look look respectable, look fun, look honorable, to
49:19
Speaker 2: where you can stay. Have a two black men, the
49:21
Speaker 2: two brown men, two men of color of any ethnicity
49:25
Speaker 2: of color, can have a physical few, have a fight,
49:28
Speaker 2: have a disagreement, and we both go home to our
49:30
Speaker 2: families and our children.
49:31
Speaker 5: Being able to go back to ground zero. I think
49:34
Speaker 5: is just like, though you're you've elevated, you know you're
49:38
Speaker 5: still humble. And then I kind of wanted to pivot
49:40
Speaker 5: back to you talking about the rules, and somewhere in
49:44
Speaker 5: this conversation you're also talking about pouring into your community,
49:47
Speaker 5: Like where did you get all of all of your
49:50
Speaker 5: your coding, like your ethics, Because.
49:53
Speaker 2: I really come from a lot of nothing. And when
49:58
Speaker 2: I say that, I mean like I grew up in
50:00
Speaker 2: a or motherless home, not a fatherless home.
50:05
Speaker 1: And but you your mom was a strip your words,
50:09
Speaker 1: a scripple.
50:10
Speaker 2: My mom was a whole. My mom was a prostitute.
50:13
Speaker 2: My mom was a dancer. Mama was exact a dancer.
50:15
Speaker 2: My mom was also a gangster. My mom was also
50:17
Speaker 2: a hustler, you know what I'm saying. So my father
50:20
Speaker 2: was was aspiring athlete, aspiring football player aspiring wrestler. He
50:26
Speaker 2: never made it like you know what I'm saying to
50:28
Speaker 2: the top, or like my dad is not like no
50:30
Speaker 2: household name wrestler that you know. His name my dad
50:33
Speaker 2: names is our rage Walker's not any of these other
50:36
Speaker 2: guys that you know. People look at his spectacles of
50:39
Speaker 2: millionaires and even though it's wrestlers, them niggas really broke
50:41
Speaker 2: to honestly. But yeah, I grew up where cocaine, crack, heroin,
50:52
Speaker 2: the aroma of it being cooked and prepared to be
50:55
Speaker 2: used as like air freshen in the living room to
50:59
Speaker 2: me type shit for a large period of time. Then
51:02
Speaker 2: there's a period of time after that where my mother
51:04
Speaker 2: just wasn't present in my life at all for twelve
51:07
Speaker 2: thirteen years. And I'm just growing up as with a
51:11
Speaker 2: single father trying to chase his dream, raise me, raise
51:17
Speaker 2: another woman's family that he married, and also pay child
51:21
Speaker 2: support on me while I'm in his living room. You
51:24
Speaker 2: see how your face, you see how you see that,
51:26
Speaker 2: you see your face that I know exactly. It's crazy
51:29
Speaker 2: as fucking it, don't It barely makes sense to do it.
51:31
Speaker 2: But that's the world we live in. Because of a
51:34
Speaker 2: woman asks for child support and got the documentation needed
51:37
Speaker 2: necess say she's going to get that payment whether you
51:39
Speaker 2: raising the child or not, because the government sees what
51:42
Speaker 2: they see it and it's a long process to undo
51:44
Speaker 2: this process and make them see and realize whatever. But
51:48
Speaker 2: I say that to say with the struggles and the
51:51
Speaker 2: harshess that I grew up, but not just on my parents,
51:54
Speaker 2: because that's just parenting, just the surroundings around me. The
51:57
Speaker 2: first time I seen people get shot and shoot each
51:59
Speaker 2: other and like that, I'm seven six. Then I grew
52:02
Speaker 2: up in a mixture of two very very wild places.
52:07
Speaker 2: My mom from Chicago, my dad from Houston, Texas. So like, yeah,
52:14
Speaker 2: like I just seen it. I've experienced my uncle of pim.
52:16
Speaker 2: My uncle's is dope fiends, my grandny is alcohol my
52:20
Speaker 2: grandmother in Houston, and my dad is one hundred percent.
52:23
Speaker 2: During my mama, my grandmother's from the cyber Honduras, I
52:27
Speaker 2: watched my grandmama died from alcohol poison it from just
52:30
Speaker 2: being an over alcoholic and my grandma died like four
52:33
Speaker 2: days before my sixth birthday type shit. So like and
52:36
Speaker 2: she was teaching me Spanish, like it was just so
52:38
Speaker 2: much shit that I saw struggle young. It matured me
52:42
Speaker 2: like my childhood was down there, ripped from me from
52:45
Speaker 2: just all the experiences that I've been through, So it
52:48
Speaker 2: forced me to mature early. That's another reason why I'm
52:50
Speaker 2: so childish and I laughed so much and I have
52:52
Speaker 2: so much fun as an adult and on the internet,
52:55
Speaker 2: is because like growing up to me, I never liked
52:58
Speaker 2: watching movies like uh Minister Society and The Nino Brown
53:03
Speaker 2: and Boys in the Hood and all that ship because
53:06
Speaker 2: I'm really living at like, how can I find enjoyment
53:11
Speaker 2: and entertainment from black struggling and black poverty and making
53:15
Speaker 2: humorous moments of it when I'm I really got the
53:19
Speaker 2: the Ezekiel and my doorstep getting drunk. I'm really living
53:23
Speaker 2: around debos and Craigs and like and like this ship,
53:28
Speaker 2: my mama is wanted, my mama is a Felicia? How
53:32
Speaker 2: is that funny? How How is this like? How is
53:35
Speaker 2: this escape of my mind? How is this u a
53:39
Speaker 2: visual pleasing moment to my young mentality? When this is
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Speaker 2: my everyday reality. That's not no fucking entertainment that's systematically
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Speaker 2: progragramming me to continuously be what I already am living
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Speaker 2: or to think that that's fun.
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Speaker 3: You're breaking the cycle now.
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Speaker 2: I am because because why because I want to be Goku.
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Speaker 3: Did you want to.
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Speaker 4: Say this conversation is definitely yeah.
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Speaker 2: But I'm the Internet, I'm the dumb dripping Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Again, man, we gotta we got another interview. But we
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Speaker 1: definitely enjoyed the conversation. But soft Father two is out now,
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Speaker 1: and whatever you else got going on, Man, when you're
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Speaker 1: in New York, pull up on us.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, soft Father two right now. It's a business.
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Speaker 2: Shout out to my record, but shou out to my friends.
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Speaker 2: Shout out to the Breakfast Club for having me here.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's been a long time coming. Man. I
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Speaker 2: appreciate you having me here. I appreciate me to you,
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Speaker 2: young beautiful lady. Tonight to follow you. So just put
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Speaker 2: your hands together and pray to the Saugus to say,
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Speaker 2: I need some flight, I need some saving, I need
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Speaker 2: the sauce. It's gonna find you and I gotta I
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Speaker 2: gotta part. She asked me about my podcast. I got
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Speaker 2: a podcast coming to man, Sauce Me Up podcast. Follow
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Speaker 2: us on YouTube, man, Sast me Up podcast. It's coming soon. Man.
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Speaker 2: Hopefully I get some of y'all to be a guest
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Speaker 2: one day.
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Speaker 3: Saut Walker, the Breakfast Club wake
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Speaker 2: That airs up early in the morning at Breakfast Club