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- 0:00Speaker 1: The woman who integrated NASA accidentally, I didn't know. Welcome
- 0:05Speaker 1: back Know. It alls to another episode of the most
- 0:08Speaker 1: anticipated podcast on the Black Effect Podcast Network, especially in February,
- 0:14Speaker 1: entitled I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either. I'm your
- 0:18Speaker 1: host Be Dittes, and I do the football PA announcing
- 0:21Speaker 1: for Winston Salem State, my alma mater, and for FAM.
- 0:24Speaker 1: You for go rams and go wrap. We'll kick off
- 0:28Speaker 1: today's episode, as we do every episode, with three of
- 0:31Speaker 1: the most useless facts you'll never need not a day
- 0:34Speaker 1: in life. Up first, John Glenn, a white man, the
- 0:38Speaker 1: first American to orbit Earth. He refused to fly until
- 0:41Speaker 1: a black woman checked the computer's math by hand. Your
- 0:45Speaker 1: second useless fact, that same black woman calculated the trajectory
- 0:49Speaker 1: for Apollo eleven's moonlanding the flight path to the moon
- 0:52Speaker 1: without a computer. And your third useless facts. When Apollo
- 0:56Speaker 1: thirteen nearly killed three astronauts, that same black woman's backup
- 1:00Speaker 1: calculations brought them back home alive. Now, would you like
- 1:05Speaker 1: to meet such a phenomenal woman? Do you know what
- 1:07Speaker 1: her name is? Because I didn't. I didn't know. I
- 1:11Speaker 1: didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know.
- 1:17Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. So, Dickie,
- 1:22Speaker 1: when people talk about NASA desegregating, they love to make
- 1:25Speaker 1: it sound clean, like they had a memo and had
- 1:28Speaker 1: a meeting. Somebody stood up and said, hey, we choose.
- 1:34Speaker 1: That's not how it happened. NASA's integration was messy, quiet,
- 1:38Speaker 1: and unintentional. I introduced to you Catherine Johnson. She was
- 1:42Speaker 1: born in nineteen eighteen in White soft for Springs, West Virginia,
- 1:46Speaker 1: and she was so good at math that she started
- 1:48Speaker 1: high school at ten years old. This story made me
- 1:51Speaker 1: look at my thirteen year old daughter in shake my head.
- 1:55Speaker 1: The problem was her county didn't offer public school for
- 1:57Speaker 1: black children past eighth grade, so her pop moved the
- 2:00Speaker 1: entire family one hundred and twenty five miles so that
- 2:03Speaker 1: baby could go to school. She graduated college at eighteen,
- 2:07Speaker 1: summa cum laude with degrees in mathematics and French. That
- 2:12Speaker 1: made me look at my nineteen year old freshman at
- 2:15Speaker 1: Livingstone College and shake my head. Later, Catherine would become
- 2:21Speaker 1: one of three students and the only woman that was
- 2:24Speaker 1: chosen to desegregate West Virginia University's graduate program. In nineteen
- 2:29Speaker 1: fifty three, she heard that NAKA, which was the precursor
- 2:32Speaker 1: to NASA, was hiring black women as computers. He applied
- 2:37Speaker 1: and got the job. But here's the thing. She was
- 2:39Speaker 1: hired to be invisible. See, black women worked in the
- 2:43Speaker 1: segregated West Area computing section. Separate bathrooms, separate cafeteria, separate office.
- 2:50Speaker 1: They were even called colored computers. And Catherine Johnson decided,
- 2:54Speaker 1: you know what, that wasn't gonna work for her. She
- 2:56Speaker 1: started asking questions and meetings where women wouldn't even allow.
- 3:00Speaker 1: When somebody told her, excuse me, women can't attend briefings,
- 3:03Speaker 1: she responded, is there a law against it? Where there
- 3:06Speaker 1: was it? So she walked in anyway. In nineteen sixty
- 3:09Speaker 1: she became the first woman to receive credit as an
- 3:12Speaker 1: author on a research report at NASA, unheard of. But
- 3:16Speaker 1: the moment that changed everything came two years later. In
- 3:20Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two. See, NASA was preparing to send John
- 3:23Speaker 1: Glenn in the orbit, the first American to circle the Earth.
- 3:26Speaker 1: They had these brand new, fancy IBM computers. Those was
- 3:30Speaker 1: calculating his trajectory for Glenn didn't trust them. IBM computers.
- 3:33Speaker 1: They were new ed glitches, they froze. So Glenn made
- 3:37Speaker 1: a request get the colored computer to check the numbers.
- 3:40Speaker 1: And he was talking specifically about Catherine Johnson. He wanted
- 3:43Speaker 1: her to run the same calculations as the IBM, but
- 3:47Speaker 1: by hand on a desktop calculator. And she did it.
- 3:51Speaker 1: And that's when Glenn said, if she says they're good,
- 3:53Speaker 1: then I'm ready to go. Let that sink in. The
- 3:56Speaker 1: astronaut who became a national hero, trusted a black woman
- 4:00Speaker 1: and the segregated South more than he trusted a million
- 4:03Speaker 1: dollar computer. Glenn flew, he orbited, and he came home safe.
- 4:07Speaker 1: And Catherine Johnson, she kept calculating. She calculated the trajectory
- 4:12Speaker 1: for Apollo eleven. She told them where to send the
- 4:14Speaker 1: rocket so it would land on the Moon. In nineteen seventy,
- 4:17Speaker 1: when Apollo thirteen's oxygen tank exploded and three astronauts were
- 4:21Speaker 1: stranded in space, her backup procedures and return path calculations
- 4:26Speaker 1: helped bring them right on home alive. She later said,
- 4:30Speaker 1: everybody was concerned about them getting there, we were concerned
- 4:33Speaker 1: about them getting back. In twenty fifteen, President Obama gave
- 4:36Speaker 1: her the presidential Medal of Freedom. At the ceremony, he says,
- 4:40Speaker 1: no one knows that John Glenn wouldn't fly unless Catherine
- 4:43Speaker 1: Johnson checked the math. She died in twenty twenty at
- 4:47Speaker 1: one hundred and one years old. NASA didn't integrate because
- 4:50Speaker 1: it was ready. It integrated because excellence made segregation impractical.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Katherine Johnson didn't ask permission. She calculated, and I didn't know.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't either. I didn't know, Jo. Yeah,