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Episode 204: Nature's Wisdom for Better Leadership with MaryCay Durrant

In this episode, I sit down with MaryCay Durrant to explore an unconventional but deeply practical approach to leadership. Drawing from decades of experience in Fortune 100 companies, MaryCay shares how nature provides a powerful framework for leading people through change, building trust, and creating healthier organizations.

We discuss why many workplaces continue to operate like machines, even though people are living, dynamic systems that thrive through connection, purpose, and relationships. MaryCay introduces her Return on Energy (ROE) framework, challenging leaders to think beyond…

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