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10-16-26 Hour 2 - Ben DiNucci/Heavy criticism after a BIG win/Oh, By the Way...sort of... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: Medical doctor and attorney, RamosLaw.com. Ben DiNucci joins us again. Ben,
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  Speaker 3: first of all, thank you for joining us this morning.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to start with just a simple question. What's
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix doing?
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  Speaker 4: First off, what's going on, guys? Good to see you.
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  Speaker 5: Joining us, by the way, on a moment's notice this morning.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's nice to see some people in Denver still
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  Speaker 7: smiling after the win last night, although it feels like
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  Speaker 7: maybe not.
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  Speaker 4: But, you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I think in its simplest form, football is a game
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  Speaker 7: that is played by kids.
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  Speaker 4: It is meant to be enjoyed. It's meant to be fun.
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  Speaker 7: And when I watch the Broncos on offense last night
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  Speaker 7: and the last couple weeks, it just doesn't look like
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  Speaker 7: anybody's having fun.
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  Speaker 4: And so... I don't know what's causing that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't been inside that building. And so, yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's logical to question the quarterback position just
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  Speaker 7: because he's the one that has the.
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  Speaker 4: Ball every single play.
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  Speaker 7: But there's clearly some disconnect going on right now between
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  Speaker 7: Sean and between the quarterback and between the offense as
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  Speaker 7: a whole, because last year it didn't look like this.
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  Speaker 7: Historically for Sean, it really hasn't looked like this.
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  Speaker 4: So I think.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's easy to point fingers. I'm not going
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  Speaker 7: to do that. I don't think Bo's a bad quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: I think he's had, I think he's had some, some
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  Speaker 7: bad games and that's part of life in the NFL.
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  Speaker 7: And certainly with the schedule that the Broncos have had
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  Speaker 7: to start the season. But yeah, when I watched that
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  Speaker 7: game last night, it just looked like no one was
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  Speaker 7: having fun. Bo kind of just looked disinterested for, for
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  Speaker 7: a good portion of that game on the sidelines, they
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  Speaker 7: were showing shots at him and it just looked like
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  Speaker 7: he was looking off into space, kind of just kind
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  Speaker 7: of dejected, and I don't know what's doing that. I
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  Speaker 7: think there's probably a lot of voices in his ear
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  Speaker 7: right now telling him a bunch of different things, and
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  Speaker 7: For him, he just needs to get back to doing
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  Speaker 7: the basics, feel confident and have faith and just letting
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  Speaker 7: it rip and giving guys a chance to go make plays.
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  Speaker 5: I think you said it best there. Ben, he's not
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  Speaker 5: a bad quarterback. We've seen success from Bo. We've seen it.
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  Speaker 5: We've seen it with our own eyes. We've seen him
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  Speaker 5: play well. So we know it's there. He's just going
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  Speaker 5: through something right now that's hard to explain, hard to assess,
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  Speaker 5: hard to fix. Is the fix, and I know this
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  Speaker 5: is a tough one for quarterbacks, Do you sit them?
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  Speaker 5: Do you sit them a couple games? Just say, take
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  Speaker 5: a seat and let's watch from here. Is that even
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  Speaker 5: a possibility, an option for this team?
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  Speaker 7: You know, I would say if the record was something
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  Speaker 7: other than 4-2, if they were 2-4, maybe this is
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  Speaker 7: a conversation that's to be had. But this team is
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  Speaker 7: sitting at 4-2 right now and the defense is playing
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  Speaker 7: as good as anybody else in the NFL. So I
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  Speaker 7: would be hard-pressed to say, hey, let's bench Bo and
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  Speaker 7: see if that's the spark that our offense needs. The
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  Speaker 7: grass is certainly not always greener in the NFL. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: this is kind of just life in the NFL. Look
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  Speaker 7: at Drake May and the Patriots the first couple weeks,
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  Speaker 7: and everyone was calling for his job as well. And
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  Speaker 7: look at what he's done the last couple weeks. He's
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  Speaker 7: played his best two games of the year. And so
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  Speaker 7: I don't think the answer is benching Bo. I think
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  Speaker 7: they just need to find ways to get the offense
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  Speaker 7: into more of a rhythm.
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  Speaker 4: And people.
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  Speaker 7: people can point at the run game and lack thereof.
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  Speaker 7: Look what's happening in Houston. They haven't really had a
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  Speaker 7: run game either, and C.J. Stroud is playing some of
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  Speaker 7: the best ball that he's had with guys hurt in
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  Speaker 7: the receiver room. He hasn't thrown an interception the whole year.
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  Speaker 7: So I don't know what it is, and it feels
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  Speaker 7: like every week I'm talking to somebody in Denver about
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  Speaker 7: what the problem is and how do they move forward.
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  Speaker 7: But no, I don't think benching Bowe is the answer.
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  Speaker 7: I would just like to see it. it look a
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  Speaker 7: little bit easier.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't, nothing, nothing looks easy right now to, to
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  Speaker 4: this offense.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that's part of probably where the frustration
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  Speaker 7: comes from as a, as a fan. And I'll say
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  Speaker 7: this too, it's hard when you're trying to figure stuff
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  Speaker 7: out on the fly in the NFL, when you're playing
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  Speaker 7: in primetime every week and you've got a national audience
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  Speaker 7: that's critiquing every little thing that's, that's going on. So
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  Speaker 7: I think maybe some of the, you know, one of
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  Speaker 7: the best things for the Broncos maybe is this, this
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  Speaker 7: Cardinals game here in, in A couple weeks. Put them
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  Speaker 7: on a late window. Put them on not a national
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  Speaker 7: TV slot. Let them kind of figure out some of
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  Speaker 7: this stuff behind closed doors. I think it's easy for
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  Speaker 7: people to be kind of these armchair quarterbacks and watch
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  Speaker 7: the game last night and say, yeah, Bo Nix needs
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  Speaker 7: to be better this, that, and the third. But if
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  Speaker 7: we're being honest, Bo wasn't the worst quarterback that played
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  Speaker 7: last night either. I think the expectations are just so
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  Speaker 7: high in Denver considering what happened last year and how
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  Speaker 7: Bo played. last year that they expect it to look
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  Speaker 7: and feel a different way.
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  Speaker 4: And so.
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  Speaker 7: At the end of the day, they're still finding ways
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  Speaker 7: to win, but you would certainly like for it to
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  Speaker 7: look a little bit different at the quarterback position.
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  Speaker 2: Talk me through this, if you would, BD. And again,
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  Speaker 2: this is probably, I don't want to compare quarterbacks. It's
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  Speaker 2: probably a little bit unfair, but you got to win.
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  Speaker 2: One of the first things he says is, quote, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know why we can't really push the ball vertically
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  Speaker 2: right now, but defenses are just sitting back and hanging out.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully we find a way to get more out of it.
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  Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers cannot run the football either.
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  Speaker 5: At all.
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  Speaker 2: They're number one guys suspended and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: And Jordan Love throws for almost 400 yards last week, right?
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  Speaker 2: So why can it work for some teams and not
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  Speaker 2: for this particular team, do you think?
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  Speaker 7: So I think that quote from Bo is strictly probably
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  Speaker 7: him trying to get himself a little bit more motivated, right?
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  Speaker 7: The lack of pushing the ball down the field. Sean's
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  Speaker 7: calling plays where guys are running defensively. down the field,
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  Speaker 7: chunk plays. At some point, Bo just has to cut
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  Speaker 7: it loose and say F it, right? I mean, so
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  Speaker 7: much about playing the quarterback position is you have to
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  Speaker 7: have the utmost confidence in yourself, in guys around you 24-7, 365.
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  Speaker 7: Be able to be poised in the noise and be
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  Speaker 7: able to trust your eyes and trust what you're seeing.
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  Speaker 7: There was a play late in that game last night
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  Speaker 7: where– it actually might've been the last third down of
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  Speaker 7: the game where he threw the, threw the swing pass
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  Speaker 7: to the right and it got batted down. And if
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  Speaker 7: you look from the end zone copy, Jalen Waddle is running,
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  Speaker 7: you know, running open on the sideline without anybody 10
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  Speaker 7: or 15 yards, you know, within reach of him. And
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  Speaker 7: if Bo would have just been able to keep his
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  Speaker 7: eyes down field and maybe step up in the pocket
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  Speaker 7: instead of drifting, right. You know, he would have Waddle
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  Speaker 7: would have came right into his view and the Seahawks
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  Speaker 7: don't even have a chance to go down and kick
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  Speaker 7: a field goal and send that game to overtime. So,
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  Speaker 7: I think Bo just needs to find ways to slow
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  Speaker 7: his process down a little bit. So much for quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 7: when the feet start moving in front of your eyes,
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  Speaker 7: that's when guys get in trouble. Ideally for quarterbacks, you
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  Speaker 7: want your eyes to lead your feet, right? And right
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  Speaker 7: now I see a quarterback in Bo that his feet
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  Speaker 7: are just not comfortable in the pocket at all. And
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  Speaker 7: it tells me that his process is just moving a
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  Speaker 7: little too fast. He's not processing things probably the way
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  Speaker 7: that he wants to or has seen in the past.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that's probably where a little bit of
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  Speaker 7: the confusion and frustration is coming from. And then that's
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  Speaker 7: when you get quotes that, hey, we're an explosive offense.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know why we're having the inability to push
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  Speaker 7: the ball down the field right now. And I think
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  Speaker 7: at the end of the day, Bo just needs to
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  Speaker 7: cut it loose. And when you get guys that are
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  Speaker 7: running free, so much about the NFL, you're never going
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  Speaker 7: to have guys that are just running wide open, right?
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  Speaker 7: It's the quarterback's ability to put the ball on the
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  Speaker 7: left shoulder when it needs to be on the left shoulder,
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  Speaker 7: on the right shoulder when it needs to be on
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  Speaker 7: the right shoulder. And When a quarterback isn't seeing things well,
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  Speaker 7: it's really tough to trust that I can put my
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  Speaker 7: back foot in the ground and cut it loose.
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  Speaker 6: Ben DiNucci is with us.
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  Speaker 3: Ben, one thing that I was thinking, because we've been
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  Speaker 3: asking because he's athletic and he's mobile, can they set
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  Speaker 3: up some designed quarterback runs? Maybe that gets him into it.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what I noticed last night and really throughout the
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  Speaker 3: course of this year. He had two ankle surgeries in
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  Speaker 3: the offseason. He kind of looks to me like a
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  Speaker 3: guy who doesn't want to get hit. Like he bails
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  Speaker 3: on clean pockets because it looks like he's scared of pressure.
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  Speaker 3: He dumps it off quickly because he doesn't want to
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  Speaker 3: take a hit on the designed runs.
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  Speaker 6: He had a play yesterday. He rolled out to his
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  Speaker 6: left on a, or not rolled out.
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  Speaker 3: It was a designed quarterback run to the left that
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  Speaker 3: he saw traffic in front of him. And he threw
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  Speaker 3: the ball to feet of his running back resulting in
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  Speaker 3: an ineligible man downfield.
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  Speaker 6: Is he scared to take contact?
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if scared is the right word. I, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: there were a couple of plays last night. I don't
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  Speaker 7: remember at what point in the game. It was first
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  Speaker 7: and 10 or second and 10. He was rolling to
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  Speaker 7: the right sideline and took a three or four yard
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  Speaker 7: loss when every other quarterback in the NFL would just
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  Speaker 7: flip the ball.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he had a tight end wide open, like
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  Speaker 5: in the flat for about seven yards.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, flip the ball out of bounds, take the incompletion.
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  Speaker 7: There was another one on the goal line. I don't
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  Speaker 7: remember when it happened, but it was second and one
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  Speaker 7: or third and one, and he got the first down
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  Speaker 7: and looked like he could have maybe put his head
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  Speaker 7: down and made a play on the front pylon.
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  Speaker 4: And Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I have no idea if he's healthy or not, but
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  Speaker 7: when you watch the game and watch him play, so
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  Speaker 7: much of his game over college and the early part
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  Speaker 7: of his NFL career has been being able to make
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  Speaker 7: plays outside the pocket. When the play breaks down, he
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  Speaker 7: prides himself on using his legs and being able to
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  Speaker 7: be a mobile quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't see that last night.
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  Speaker 7: It looked like he scrambled when he needed to to
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  Speaker 7: get out of the pocket and avoid the rush, and
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  Speaker 7: then as soon as he felt like you know, he
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  Speaker 7: was going to be compromised or get hit. That's when
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  Speaker 7: I think you saw him kind of run out of
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  Speaker 7: bounds or fall down in front of.
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  Speaker 4: Defenders' feet. So, yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I would hope he's 100% healthy and they're not just
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  Speaker 7: rolling him out there every week knowing that he's not healthy.
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  Speaker 7: And I think part of it is that, you know,
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  Speaker 7: he didn't have an offseason. He had a couple surgeries,
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  Speaker 7: didn't have a really ramp-up period during preseason. He only
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  Speaker 7: played a couple of drives during the preseason. games, and
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  Speaker 7: in a way is probably still feeling himself out a
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  Speaker 7: little bit in how comfortable and confident he is in
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  Speaker 7: that foot, and so much of quarterbacks and being able
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  Speaker 7: to generate power and force with the ball comes from
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  Speaker 7: your lower half, and his right foot, that's the back
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  Speaker 7: foot for right-handed quarterbacks. That's where you're going to get
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  Speaker 7: most of the energy from your throw. And probably part
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  Speaker 7: of it is, you know, how much do I really
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  Speaker 7: trust this when I haven't had much game reps since
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  Speaker 7: the AFC, not the AFC championship, the divisional round last
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  Speaker 7: year versus.
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  Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills.
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  Speaker 7: And I also thought it was interesting last night at
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  Speaker 7: the end of the game in overtime, Sean called, you know,
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  Speaker 7: basically the same quarterback that sweep that he called at
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  Speaker 7: the end of the season last year when Bo got
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  Speaker 7: hurt against the Bills. He was rolling out to the left,
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  Speaker 7: and last night he was rolling out to the right,
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  Speaker 7: and it looked like Bo wanted no part of that play.
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  Speaker 7: He wanted no part of that play, and rightfully so.
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  Speaker 7: If I was in that position, it's hard for me
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  Speaker 7: to trust. Man, the play I got hurt eight months ago,
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  Speaker 7: my coach is going to call the same play and
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  Speaker 7: put me in that same situation. I'll be damned if
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  Speaker 7: I take a hit and put myself in a compromising position,
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  Speaker 7: and thankfully Will Lutz bailed the offense out, but At
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  Speaker 7: the end of the day, this team is finding ways
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  Speaker 7: to win. The defense is playing unbelievable without Pat Sertan,
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  Speaker 7: without Hufanga last night. At some point, they hope to
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  Speaker 7: get Jonathan Cooper back. So, you know, Vijay's got that
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  Speaker 7: side of the ball flying around, making plays and keeping
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  Speaker 7: this offense in games.
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  Speaker 5: Let me ask you one final question, Ben, and appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Your insight has been valuable to us, obviously, and our listeners.
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  Speaker 5: Last night, the Broncos produced 168 yards of offense, which.
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  Speaker 5: In an overtime NFL victory is the lowest amount ever
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  Speaker 5: for a winning team in overtime in the history of
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  Speaker 5: the league. So it's easy to say, oh, it's just Bo.
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  Speaker 5: It's more than Bo. The offense, it's just more than Bo.
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  Speaker 5: Is the offensive line, I keep hearing how they're the
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  Speaker 5: highest paid. Are they overrated? I mean, what is going
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  Speaker 5: on up front? Why can't they get a run game going?
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going to use the term overrated because I'm
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  Speaker 7: buddies with a lot of people in that locker room.
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  Speaker 7: I'm still very cautious about how I talk about this team.
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  Speaker 7: There's a reason this Denver Broncos helmet is still above
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  Speaker 7: my Cowboys helmet behind me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not ready to give up on these guys yet.
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  Speaker 5: But I think.
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  Speaker 7: Just as offense as a whole, when you win 14
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  Speaker 7: games last year and you're one game away from going
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  Speaker 7: to the Super Bowl and your starting quarterback doesn't play
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  Speaker 7: during the AFC Championship, naturally there probably feels like a
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  Speaker 7: need to press on offense from Sean, from the quarterback.
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  Speaker 7: I think that's part of the reason why you saw
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  Speaker 7: Sean take over play-calling so soon. I don't think it
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  Speaker 7: was anything that Davis was doing that, you know, it
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  Speaker 7: was the reason that the offense was the way it
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  Speaker 7: was the first couple of weeks. I think they just
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  Speaker 7: needed to find a spark and the team was two
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  Speaker 7: and two. And so naturally Sean just takes back play
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  Speaker 7: calling and it's a way of him saying, Hey, the
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  Speaker 7: quarterback needs to play a little better. I'm going to
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  Speaker 7: see if I can help by, you know, having a
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  Speaker 7: familiar voice in his ear that he's had for the
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  Speaker 7: last couple of years to start his career. Certainly you
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  Speaker 7: would like to see the offensive line play better, but
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  Speaker 7: I think at the end of the day, too, the
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  Speaker 7: Seattle Seahawks were Super Bowl champs last year, and that
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  Speaker 7: defense wreaked havoc on everybody that they played.
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  Speaker 4: So it's easy to point the finger, and I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going to do that.
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  Speaker 7: I think for the Broncos now, they're going to get
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  Speaker 7: a sigh of relief when it comes to the schedule
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  Speaker 7: and who they're playing here the next month or two.
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  Speaker 7: And the fact that they were able to come out
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  Speaker 7: of this first chunk of the season at four and two,
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  Speaker 7: I think really is a plus, right? If you look
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  Speaker 7: at their schedule before the year and said in a
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  Speaker 7: perfect world as a Broncos fan, three and three would be,
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  Speaker 7: I think, right for what people.
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  Speaker 4: Would expect it.
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  Speaker 7: And the fact that they were able to come out
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  Speaker 7: of this thing four and two and with a winning record,
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  Speaker 7: I think just speaks testaments to the team and the
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  Speaker 7: coaching and kind of what they have inside that building. Now, yes,
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  Speaker 7: the offense can play better. The quarterback, can play better.
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  Speaker 7: They can play better complementary football. I think they had
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  Speaker 7: eight drives in the second half last night for, I.
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  Speaker 4: Don't, don't quote me on this.
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  Speaker 6: It was like 15 yards or something, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, something, something, something not good, right?
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  Speaker 7: And so the fact that they're still able to win
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  Speaker 7: games in the NFL and the offense is only showing
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  Speaker 7: up for a quarter or two, I think speaks volumes
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  Speaker 7: to the rest of that team and the rest of
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  Speaker 7: that locker room.
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  Speaker 3: Ben DiNucci, 30 seconds here real quick, because I do
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  Speaker 3: want to ask you this. They're winning football games, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm assuming everything is fine within that locker room. Is
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  Speaker 3: the defense talking to themselves when they're away from the
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  Speaker 3: offense being like, dude?
• 14:39
  Speaker 8: Dude.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: They're winning football games.
• 14:43
  Speaker 7: I don't think everything is going to be right inside
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: that locker room.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: Peyton knows he has a problem. He knows he's got
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: a problem.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: No doubt.
• 14:51
  Speaker 7: There's going to be a team meeting this morning with– sorry,
• 14:54
  Speaker 7: a coaching staff meeting this morning, and they're going to
• 14:56
  Speaker 7: have to– the first thing that's going to be talked
• 14:58
  Speaker 7: about is, hey, man, how do we get our quarterback–
• 15:01
  Speaker 7: to play better right and it's not benching him it's
• 15:04
  Speaker 7: not you know let's let's let's see Stidham for a
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: week and you know see if that you know helps
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: Bo I don't think that's it at all they just
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: need to simply go back to hey what does Bo
• 15:14
  Speaker 7: do well what do we do well as an offense
• 15:17
  Speaker 7: and how can we put our guys in best positions
• 15:21
  Speaker 7: to succeed I look at Jalen Waddle he's basically getting
• 15:23
  Speaker 7: free cardio out there every time they play minus the
• 15:26
  Speaker 7: minus the Jacksonville game where he had a He had
• 15:29
  Speaker 7: a good game. This is a guy they spent a
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: first-round draft pick on, and they're not finding ways to
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: get him the ball. Look around the NFL, the Cowboys,
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: the Bengals. CeeDee Lamb had 21 targets versus the Houston
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: Texans a couple weeks ago versus what people thought was
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: the best secondary in the NFL.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Puka Nakua just had 24 on Monday night.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 15:47
  Speaker 7: At some point, as a quarterback and as a play caller,
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: you have to generate touches for your best players. If
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: Jalen Waddell is a guy who they think on offense
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: is one of their best players, they need to find
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: ways to to get him the ball. That will help
• 15:59
  Speaker 7: settle Bo down. That will help settle the offensive line down.
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: That'll help settle the pass rush down. And I think
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: then you'll start to see a little bit, maybe more
• 16:07
  Speaker 7: of complimentary football being played on offense. But if you're
• 16:10
  Speaker 7: playing this Broncos offense and as a defense or a
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: defensive coordinator, you can sit back and say, hey, I'm
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: just going to load the box and make Bo Nix
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: beat us and prove that he has the ability to
• 16:22
  Speaker 7: stay in the pocket and trust his eyes and trust
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: his feet and.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Go through progressions and make reads.
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: Until you see him consistently do that week in and
• 16:28
  Speaker 7: week out, I think defensive coordinators are just going to say, hey,
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: we're going to try to make this offense one-dimensional and
• 16:34
  Speaker 7: let Bo Nix beat us.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Last one, I lied.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: Is that contract hanging over his head, the possibility of
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: making that money? Ben, if you had a treasure chest
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: waiting for you, would that affect your play?
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: And look, I don't know.
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: I might be the wrong guy to ask about that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: I was never even in the same stratosphere of having
• 16:52
  Speaker 7: a conversation where I was looking at money or a
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: contract like that in my career. I was week to week,
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: month to month, year to year in my thought process.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: Were the airport beers hanging over your head?
• 17:03
  Speaker 9: The airport beers were sitting in front of me like, man,
• 17:08
  Speaker 9: if I can get cut again and go to the
• 17:10
  Speaker 9: airport and have another IPA and make light of myself
• 17:13
  Speaker 9: and be relatable, then I'm all for it.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: But You know, I don't know.
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: That's certainly a tough spot to be in because these
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: first-round quarterbacks, when they're in year three, kind of that
• 17:23
  Speaker 7: year three, year four, and you're seeing it with, like,
• 17:25
  Speaker 7: Bryce Young and C.J. Stroud and some of these other
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: guys around the league, too, who are in these positions.
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: And those guys are just going out and saying, man,
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: I'm just going to cut it loose. I'm going to ball,
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: and I'm going to let my play speak for itself.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: That's hard to say. I would certainly hope not. And
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: if he is thinking about it, I would tell him
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: probably not to, right? Because the more you're thinking about
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: stuff that you can't control, the more it's going to
• 17:51
  Speaker 7: affect your play out there and the more it's going
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: to affect your team.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And so I don't know.
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: Certainly the Broncos are going to have a decision to make,
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: not necessarily in terms of if he's the franchise quarterback
• 18:02
  Speaker 7: or not, but in terms of, you know, do they
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: want to just pick up his fifth year option? Do
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: they want to give him a Baker Mayfield type contract
• 18:09
  Speaker 7: or a Sam Darnold type contract. Um, certainly there's a
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: lot of football left to be played this year, but yeah, for,
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: for Bo's sake, I think just, just settle down. There's
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: a lot of season left. It's been six weeks. You're,
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: you're four and two and he's still protecting the ball.
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: I mean, like they didn't have like Renault turnovers last
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: night and you watch Sam Darnold as a Seahawks fan.
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: You're like, man, I wish he would just take care
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: of the ball and protect the ball. And as a
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: Seahawks fan, you probably think last night that Like, how
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: the heck do we lose that game? How do we
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: find a way to let the Broncos beat us when
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: they have 170 yards offense and can't seem to move
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: the ball for a second half?
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't know.
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: I'm still in on the Broncos. I'm not going to
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: say I'm not ready to poo-poo them yet. When you've
• 18:49
  Speaker 7: got a defense that's led by Vance Joseph and Sean
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: Payton at the helm, I think you're always going to
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: have a chance to be successful and a chance to
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: win every week.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: And You heard him in the locker room last night.
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: There's a way to win each game, but we just
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: need to make sure that we're getting better every week
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: and not kind of staying complacent. I think sometimes for
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: teams in the NFL, complacency is the biggest opponent, not
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: necessarily who you're playing every Sunday. You want to feel
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: like September, October, November, you're climbing the mountain, not coming
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: down the mountain so that December and January you can
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: be playing your best football.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: It's Ben DiNucci.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Always appreciate the time, Ben. Let's talk again soon, yeah?
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Appreciate it, guys.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Take it easy.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Have a good Friday. Have a great weekend.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: I'll be looking for that expired Bitcoin, Vic. Let me
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: know when it hits my Robinhood account.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Ben.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: See you guys.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Ben DiNucci joining us on the Rambos Law Hotline. Gosh, man.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: It's one of the most fascinating teams that you could
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: cover because you have one thing that is so good
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: and another thing that is just not even close to
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: good enough.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: So we can get more into this as we go along. 303-504-0925.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Back after this.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: It's a Bud Light Football Friday. Bud Light, the official
• 20:01
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• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Thank you to Ben DiNucci who just joined us breaking
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: down some of his thoughts from... Not just the game
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: last night, but this season. I play something else for
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: you guys. Now, again, it's so weird to me that
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: all of these criticisms, and warranted, I'll say warranted, but
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: it's just weird. I don't know if I've seen a
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: quarterback as criticized as Bo Nix after a win.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: It's a weird thing.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Russell Wilson took some hits when he was here. Not
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: after wins. But he took some hits. Win, lose, draw.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: He took hits. He did.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: Here's John Middlecoff.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: And he took hits from other NFL players currently in
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: the league.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: True.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: But here's John Middlecoff talking about Bo Nix last night
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: after the game.
• 20:53
  Speaker 10: I can never unsee that from Bo Nix. I think
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: he's a low football IQ player. Most people's opinion after
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: that game is Sam Darnold sucks. Well, if he is,
• 21:01
  Speaker 10: I don't know what Bo Nix is. UFL player? Has
• 21:04
  Speaker 10: he lost his confidence?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: I watched him last year kind of look like this too.
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: But to me, what did it were those two plays
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: at the end of the game. when he ran out
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: of bounds, and then when he threw the ball in
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: that situation when they had a timeout. I can't even
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: imagine what Sean Payton, who had 15 plus years of
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: a guy you would say is one of the highest
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: football IQ players of all time in Drew Brees, to
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: go to this. Davis Webb got absolutely obliterated. Everyone took
• 21:29
  Speaker 10: a giant dump on the guy's career. Maybe it wasn't
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: his fault. I don't think Bill Walsh or Vince Lombardi
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: in their prime could do much with that.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: That was really, really bad.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: What do you think Sean Payton is thinking about his
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: quarterback right now?
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: I think what Sean Payton is going through right now
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: is making sure that the team doesn't undergo major division
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: in the ranks because here's what's going to happen. Our
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: job in this business is to assess, to evaluate, to opine,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: and then to project. And perhaps that's why a lot
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: of Broncos fans are upset after a win, after 4-2
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: in that gauntlet, because the projection part of that doesn't work.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: You can't project the Super Bowl with this offense. You can't.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: So that's where you run into trouble. What Sean Payton's
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: dealing with this morning is how do I keep this
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: team together? For example, last night, it's not just the
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: defense saying, hey, what gives? We're doing everything. Last night,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: did you guys see that route where Marvin Mims ran
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: down the field and did not even look back?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: He knew he was not getting the ball.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: We saw that. And I was like, was he running
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: a dummy route?
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: I don't I mean, he made no effort to look back,
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: almost as if to say he's not going to throw it.
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: How about when and we've seen this on a couple
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: of occasions already. Jalen Waddle slamming his helmet. He did
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: it again last night. I don't know if you guys
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: saw this last night. He did the old snap the snap.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: The chin strap.
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: Exactly right. Because he knows he's not going to get
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: the ball. Listen, that's exactly what Sean Payton needs to address.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: It's not just the court. It's the other guys going, hey,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: what are we doing?
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: We had some Diva wide receivers around this part of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the country caner for a while. I can't even imagine
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: what their reactions would be if they were dealing with
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: this on a week-to-week basis.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: Emmanuel Sanders?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Whom I like an awful lot.
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I love Emmanuel. And before people say, and I know this, oh, well,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: they're worried about their stats. Yeah, because that's how the
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: league works. Your stats are your money. And if all
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: of a sudden your stats get cut in half or
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: by a fourth, guess what? It affects your paycheck. So
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: they have every right to be concerned.
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: It's not even just the stat part, though, Moj.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: It is just, look, man, there's an overall feeling of
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: when your offense is successful.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: If you put.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Up 400 yards of offense and Waddle had three catches
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: for 30 yards, you.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: Can stomach that. Like, that's fine. Eventually, you'll want the
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: ball more.
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: But it's every week.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: Every week.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: And what DiNucci just said, he goes, Waddle's out there
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: running cardio. That's not fun for anybody.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you what's going on right now. The
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: defense knows how good it is, and the defense knows
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: that's why they're 4-2. And the defense knows the offense stinks.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: The offense knows the offense stinks. The coaching staff knows
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: the offense stinks. So what you've got to do, even
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: after week six, Vic, is you've just got to take
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a deep breath over there, calm things down. We're 4-2.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Perhaps better than I even thought they would be. But
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: you could be, I'm not saying a breaking point, but
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: if things continue this same way, there's going to be friction, right?
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: And right now, because you're 4-2, there's probably not as
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: much friction as, well, I know there's not as much
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: friction as there would be if you were 2-4. Yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: So just grease that friction right now and get through it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Now you've got 10 days to regroup again. You're going
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: to be playing a dog-butt Cardinals team that's not very
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: good before you play KC again, but the schedule is
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: going to lighten up for you. But I guess my
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: point is, Is the defense just going to hold teams
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: to no points? Because it doesn't matter who they play.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: It's kind of the same thing all the time, Vic.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want to hear about a lightened schedule
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: because last week against a winless Chargers team, the offense
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: looked even worse at times than it did last night.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what the record is of the opponent.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. It's the NFL. It's the NFL. Every
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: week you're going to get some sort of pushback. So
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: that's why... The projection element of this is why this
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: radio show, for those of you tuning in, why are
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: you guys being negative? They're four and two. I get
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: all that. I love it. We all want to join
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: the party, but that's not going to last. I'm just
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: here to tell you, at this rate, and if they
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: continue to play like this on one side of the ball,
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: it's not going to end well. It's not.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Every piece of logic would tell you, Vic. This can't
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: be sustained. This cannot continue.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: It's not going to end well if your team produces
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: 168 yards of offense. It's not going to end well.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: You sure about that?
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: It's not going to end well if your quarterback averages
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: less than two yards per throw. It's not going to
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: end well when your longest throw in the air is 7.6 yards.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: You would let me couch it. You're right. You would
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: think that it wouldn't end well. But you know what
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: it did last night, Brett?
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: It ended well. It ended well.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You got to dub, man.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: You got to dub. It's not going to end well
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: if in the second half of games you have seven
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: possessions for a grand total of 24 yards.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Well, if the opposing quarterback says, you know what I
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: think I'd like to do? I'd like to ignore a
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: wide open Cooper Cup and try to force it over
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: here to somebody else and then throw a telegraph, not
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: once but twice, telegraphed out route where the DB says,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: mama mia, gimme, gimme, gimme.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: Can I say something about that real quick?
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: This defense that I am dubbing the best defense that's
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: ever existed, because if you're winning games with that offense,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: there's no other conclusion I can come to. And we
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: asked the question last year. That defense was so good.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: They were so good. How can you expect them to
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: be better? Especially going into this week. You're out Sertan.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: You're out Hufanga. You know what they do this year
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: that makes them even better than last year? They're getting takeaways.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Yes, they are.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: And God, do you need them.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: The takeaways last week against the Chargers set the Broncos
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: offense up in a positive territory to start the drive
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: five different times in a game in which you couldn't
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: move the football. That resulted in why you won the
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: game and how you got points. They got a pick
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: six in the Rams game in a game that they
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: won by four.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: That is correct.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: That won you the football game.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Talk about the Chargers and some of the idiot things.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Go ahead.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: Exactly right. No, exactly right.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: They strip-sacked Justin Herbert and set themselves up. They got
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: an interception to close out the game. They picked the
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: ball off When the Seahawks were driving to tie the
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: game with a field goal, only to have the offense
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: go three and out, and they picked the ball off
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: again in overtime to win the game. You guys know
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: how many takeaways they had all of last year?
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: They're 14.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: They're 10.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: They're 10 this year.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It was completely flipped in terms of the ratio. Completely awful.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And yet they still were a 14-win football team.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: They're better this year than they were last year.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: I love the fact that you could throw a Jaday
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Barron out there last night and he held his own.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: He was upset with a couple plays, but he held
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: his own. And, of course, Abrams Drain came up with
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: that big interception. These young... Backup corners that are coming
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: in and playing clutch. It is awesome to behold. It's
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: fun to watch. Up front, I thought they played great.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Zach Allen continues to be a menace.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: Hey, by the way, Q Robinson's a guy.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: He is a guy. He's a dude. Jonah Ellis is hurt.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: He left the game hurt.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: He had to be helped off the field, so we'll
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: see where he stands. But having said all that, somebody
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: writes in, Reggie writes in, not sure what happened today.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: I thought Vic made a vowel.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: And vows are made to be broken. That's why they
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: have divorce lawyers. They're made to be broken. And I
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: lasted for one segment today before I broke that vow.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: I apologize. It just needs to be. A friend of
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: mine texted me this. And he's a dear friend. And
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: he said, Vic, I don't understand what the problem is.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: This reminds me of the 1977 Broncos team way back
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: in the day when Craig Morton led them to the
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl with a dynamic defense and the offense was
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: just sort of eh. To which I replied, are you
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: going to compare Broncos Bo Nix's play this year to
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: Craig Morton's that year?
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: Seriously.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Craig Morton in 1977 was the AFC Offensive Player of
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: the Year in 1977. Now, his stats weren't dynamic. He
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: was the AFC Offensive Player of the Year. This is
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: not even in the same ballpark. It's not even close.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: People brought up, you know, The Ravens, who won with
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Trent Dilfer, and the Bucs, who won with Brad Johnson.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Do you remember the running back for the Ravens the
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: year they won? Do you remember the running game they had?
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Jamal Lewis? Do you remember the running game they had?
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Because I know Bronco fans remember it. They saw it firsthand.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Who was the Bucs?
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Is that Warwick Dunn?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: At that time, I think it might have been Warwick. No.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: Was Allstott on that team?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Mike Allstott was on that team.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: Dunn and Allstott.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Hey, Vic, how good were Jamal Lewis's thighs? Okay, but...
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: They're huge. Forget the running aspect of those teams.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Guys, Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer were miles better quarterbacks
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: than what Bo Nix is right now.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: Currently. Currently what he is. Not what he can be,
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: but currently what he is.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: And that's where people are... Don't get all hurt over this.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: It's not personal. Last night, we saw Jekyll and Hyde
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: for two drives last night. He was phenomenal. He engineered
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: the best drive of the season last night.
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: He put together a 16-play drive.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: With balance. Effortless. And then he did it again the
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: very next drive. And you're thinking to yourself, this is awesome.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: Prove us all wrong. You're back. You're alive. And then
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: he went into a shell. Yep.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: By the way, Brett, that's always been a conundrum to me. What?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Jekyll and Hyde. Do you know who the good woman
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: was and the bad one?
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Mr.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: Jekyll and Dr.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Hyde, right?
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: No, Dr. Jekyll was the good guy. Mr.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Hyde, that's right.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: But Hyde sounds like he should be the good guy. Jekyll. No,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: he was just a regular old dude.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: That's true.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: It's weird.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: The Broncos took care of business last night, but now
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: it's time to get a little help in the AFC West. Sunday,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: root for the Bills against the Raiders at 225 on 92.5
• 32:06
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• 32:08
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• 32:11
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• 32:14
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• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely nothing to do with all that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: Bye.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: Anime, Star Wars, Star Trek.
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: The toilet suddenly shattered and collapsed beneath them.
• 32:24
  Speaker 11: Wait.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Are you still driving that Honda?
• 32:26
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• 32:30
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• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about the Broncos more.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: I do, too.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe a couple of other football things I would like
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: to get to before it's all said and done.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: How about this?
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Real quick, on the subject of oh, by the way,
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: we can fit one thing in real quick. One quick oh,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: by the way, and back to the Broncos. College football
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: is moving to a 2014 playoff next year.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: That's happening.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: So when you see the top 25 eliminate the last
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: team on there and the rest of those teams are
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: going to get in that big dance, I think it's silly.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: How many yards of offense did CSU give up last night? 700. Yeah,
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: 533 on the ground, I think.
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: 700.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait. How does a team give up
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: 700 yards on the ground.
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: Or 700 yards.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Total?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Like that?
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: Like that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: But you're not playing Alabama. You're playing North Texas.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: No, it was Texas State.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Whatever they are.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Texas State. Texas State. My wife went to Texas State.
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: You know where it's located? San Marcos, Texas, just south
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: of Austin. Texas State entered that game two and three.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: And they played Colorado State and put up 716 yards
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: of offense. Like that?
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: As Mosier said, 503 rushing yards.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, 503.
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: I thought it was 533. 503.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: They averaged nine yards per carry on 55 carries.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: You know how hard that is to do?
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: 55 times you're running for basically a first down?
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I've never seen that before in my entire life.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, so, oh, by the way, just real quick, 2014 playoff,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: it's stupid. And I have a legitimate question about college
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: football in this sense.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Well, you don't have to listen to Vic complain and
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: whine anymore.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: True.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: Congrats, Vic. Notre Dame's in the playoff every year.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: You never have to whine again. Now it's just going
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: to be about, well, they're seeded seventh and they should
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: be fifth.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: This isn't about college football. It's not about what's best
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: for the sport. It's what's best for the shareholders. That's
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: what it's best for.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: No more, but there's no more conference championship games.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: You're aware of that, right?
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: Yes, and I hate it.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I think it should matter who wins a conference. But
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: they are not doing this for the betterment of the sport.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: They're doing this for the betterment of their pocketbooks. Here's
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: my big question, though. When does donor fatigue set in?
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: At what point are these donors who are shelling out.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: It already has.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: Well, kind of.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: It already has. I know some that are fatigued.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: But, Vic, judging by the numbers, look, man, $ 500, 000 got
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: you a really good left tackle on the transfer portal
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: three years ago.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: That guy's worth $ 2 million now.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Ohio State's roster, when this first started, was like $ 20- some million.
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: It's like $ 40- some million now.
• 36:00
  Speaker 11: Mm-hmm.
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: How much higher can they grow on this? How much
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: more money are these guys going to shell out if
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: their team isn't winning? Like if you are, take one
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: of the, how about Texas A & M? Texas A
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: & M is a team that's expected to compete in
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: the SEC. They're a 500 football team right now. They're
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: going nowhere. If they had a 2014 playoff, Texas Tech,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: or sorry, Texas.
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: A & M.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Ain't in it.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: How much more money are you going to keep shelling
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: out for a product that's not good enough to make
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: a 2014 playoff?
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: You know how I know they're the 500 club right now?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: It's because they picked against them last week.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Marcel Riga, I'm over him.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: I'm going through socials right now, and poor Ben. Ben
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: came on our show. He's getting attacked by people who said, yeah,
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: and what did you do in your career? And what
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: was your career like? They're doing Fitzpatrick. You people who
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: do that.
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: Cut the music, Nelly. I just want to go back
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: to the Broncos.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Anybody who's played a down of pro football is qualified
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: beyond belief to discuss it.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: You really do. It's amazing to hear people say that. Like,
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: he's not justified in his criticism because, well, he never
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: did what Bo did in the NFL. He didn't reach
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: those numbers or that success. So your opinion doesn't matter. Okay.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Why is the person criticizing the guy who used to
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: play professional football think their opinion is more valuable than
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: the guy who played professional football?
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: Isn't that weird?
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Anyway, you know what's really nuts? We used a word
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: last year, and I used this with the Chiefs two
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: years ago. The Chiefs were like 12-0 in one-score games
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: in 2024. Went all the way to a 15-1 record
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: before they sat all their guys against the Broncos.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Then lost in the Super Bowl.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: Lost in the Super Bowl.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: And I kept telling you all year, despite the fact
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: that they won every single week, I don't trust this
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: No, you said it week after week after week after week.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: And look, I ended up being wrong that year. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: was very right the year afterwards, where they were miserable
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: in one-score games. They were something like one of seven
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: to start the year. The Broncos were 12-3 in one-score
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: games last year, including the playoffs.
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: 12-3.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, you can't keep doing that.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: You know what the Broncos' record this year in one-score
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: games is?
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: 4-0.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: 4-0. And last night they led, so they didn't have
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: to come back. Last night was the first time But
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: they didn't have to come back to win. They led.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: They held off.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: So combining for last year, the Broncos are 16-3 in
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: one-score games. Everything about what they're doing feels impossible.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: It is impossible.
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: I would have said it's impossible, Moj, except I've seen it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: So it is possible.
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: Somehow.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: This is where, Vic, and please don't criticize me, Vic, please.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: when I get sort of esoteric and whatnot. This is
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: why I feel, I wonder if I'm, I do wonder
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: if I'm living in some sort of simulation. Maybe the
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: matrix is real. Maybe the infinite universe theory is plausible.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: And this universe, this is the way this universe goes,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: where what should be impossible is possible. Because I'm telling you, Brett,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: what you're saying What the record is showing, what the
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: stats are proving is impossible. where they are is it's
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: the biggest dichotomy in the history of sports do you
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: understand what I'm saying yeah I don't think you.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Do I I know I know exactly what you're saying
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: because I've been.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Saying it Vic Do you believe in the possibility of
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: infant universes or false realities? Do you believe in any
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: of that? Is that even a possibility in your mind?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I'm scrolling TikTok right now.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: You keep going. Okay, see?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know what to say to the listening audience
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: out there other than the fact that what is happening
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: is not supposed to be happening.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: Well, here's one of them. Here's one of them, man.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: People criticizing Ryan Fitzpatrick for what he said after the
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: game last night, which if you didn't hear, it was this.
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: Bo Nix is not playing competitively. It's almost disrespectful to
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: the quarterback position how.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: He's playing football.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: What do you mean?
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: What do you mean when you see? How is he playing?
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: I mean, first of all, the guy doesn't want to
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: throw the ball.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: That's fine.
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: He's throwing to the flats.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: He's throwing behind.
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: But he has no trust from his coach. He calls
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: a screenplay on third and eight. Just run up and
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: let the clock keep going.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: What does he do?
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: He throws it away. Seattle gets the ball. They have
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: a timeout. And then in overtime.
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: He's got two chances to be competitive. The last one
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: being a designed run for him to run, make somebody missing,
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: get a first down for your football team. Now they're
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: in the locker room right now. They're excited. They won.
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: He's not playing competitive football right now.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: He's not lying.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: I've been saying this.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: There's something about Bo where he looks scared on the field.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: He looks scared to make a throw down field. He
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: looks scared to take a hit. And you can't have
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: a quarterback that plays that way. No, you can't have
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: the leader of your football team playing with fear. And
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: that is absolutely what's happening. He is petrified to make
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: a mistake. And I don't look, I'm tired of, of
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: bringing up the ankle thing, but I don't know what
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: it is. Cause I watched him last year. Most, he
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: would be willing to take a hit to get a
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: first down, but I saw multiple instances in which he
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: straight up avoided contact because he didn't want it. He
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: had that run that was towards the end zone. He
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: was going near the pylon. Almost every quarterback, every player
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: in that situation is diving at the pylon.
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: Going to take a hit, try and stretch the ball over.
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: What did he do?
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: He ran out of bounds at like the three, the two?
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Because he saw somebody comment. And I go, that is
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: not the Bo Nix I saw last year. Whatever you
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: thought his talent level was, maybe you think that Bo
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Nix is a terrible quarterback and you thought that from
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: the day the Broncos drafted him.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: Then fine. You can have that opinion. What you couldn't
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: say about him is that he wasn't competitive.
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he wasn't tough.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: He was super competitive. And he was incredibly tough.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: And I'm not seeing either one of those right now.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Can I ask you guys a question? It may be
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: a hard question. It may be easy. And anybody else
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: can chime in on this. You watched a game last night.
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: between two teams and two quarterbacks who struggled in their
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: own right. Sam Darnold gave the ball away.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: He gave the ball away in critical situations, and he
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: took ownership of that after the game. He said he
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: lost that game for his team. Bo Nix did not
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: give the ball away. He didn't move the ball, but
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: he did not give it away. If I give you
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: a choice right now, you've got 30 seconds to make
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: your choice. Who do you take as your quarterback?
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: Sam Darnold.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Done.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Moshe, you have 30 seconds to make your selection.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Let me think.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: You now have 15 seconds to make your selection.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: You're saying right now?
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: Right now.
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: Right now, Bo Nix is new.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Right now.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: But this second, I'll take Sam Darnold. It sounds crazy,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: but that's who I'd take.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Right now, this is the reality we need to understand
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: despite a winning football team against very good opponents. There's
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: one quarterback I think currently in the NFL that is
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: playing worse than Bo Nix, and that's Cam Ward. I
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: legit think there isn't another quarterback currently, not what he
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: can be, currently in the league. Bo Nix has one
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: quarterback that's in his realm of like, what am I watching?
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: That is correct.
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: And that's Cam Ward.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: It doesn't give me any great joy to say that.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: I don't like saying it either, but it's the truth.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, as bad as... But he's not turning the
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: football over, at least.
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: But he's not turning it over because he's not giving
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: anything the chance.
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: You're right.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Like, well, you didn't get a speeding ticket. Well, when
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: you're driving five miles an hour, you're going to be fine.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: But is that the way you should be doing things?
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: Just saying.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: You know what's funny? Or put it this way. If
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: you switched quarterbacks last night, put them on opposite sides.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: Who wins that game?
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: The Broncos still do. The Broncos do.
• 44:31
  Speaker 11: Why?
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: Because Sam Darnold, despite the interceptions, Sam Darnold threw for
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: 278 yards, but Sam Darnold was hit 17 times last night.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: The Broncos win that game every time because their defense
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: is that damn good. Yeah. It is. Could you imagine
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: what the Denver defense would do to Bo?
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: He would be in a coma.
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: He wouldn't get 50 yards in the game.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he would be in a coma.
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  Speaker 3: Today at 3 at Schoolhouse. So still a lot to
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: get to here. Mosher's got Lay It Down coming up.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: We got a whole bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Stick around.