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Ed Sheeran Interview · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Real people, real celebrity joined the Breakfast six morning. Everybody
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Speaker 1: is DJ m vy Angela, Ye, Charlomagne, the guy. We
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Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest with
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Speaker 1: us this morning. Yes, he's slumming this morning. He decided
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Speaker 1: to come to the ghetto. That's right and kick it
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Speaker 1: with the ghetto folks. It's only downstairs. Doesn't feel like
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Speaker 1: slumming it that much. So what made you decide to
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Speaker 1: come to the Breakfast Club? We were asking for a while,
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Speaker 1: what are you? Yeah? Oh, I personally requested it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I met last year the iHeartRadio Music Festival. Bobby Bones
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Speaker 1: introduced us, and I was shocked that he even knew
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Speaker 1: who the hell I was. But he watches the Breakfast Club. Really.
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Speaker 1: Of my favorite one is uh Kalid going on about
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Speaker 1: not going down on women like how's dinner wearing a
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Speaker 1: lot of people were very upset about that. Do that? Yeah, yeah, Sharon,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you do that. I mean, I'm a man,
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Speaker 1: you eat vagina. I don't do the sucking the farts
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Speaker 1: out though, stuck the far out of girls, but I
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Speaker 1: don't like doing it no more. I just don't think
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Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's a I don't know, it's
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Speaker 1: a bit a bit old in it says you eat
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Speaker 1: the booty like groceries. Okay, yeah, it's just got too
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Speaker 1: commercial for me. Now I don't like to do it.
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Speaker 1: I was doing it when it was underground, main stream.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to stuck far out everybody's singing about it.
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Speaker 1: So you never ate the booty before ate the booty seat. No,
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Speaker 1: well he's only twenty, you're still young already. This is like,
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Speaker 1: this is like, yeah, I was, I was expecting something
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Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, well we read this morning that you
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Speaker 1: were on a campaign trail in San Francisco and you
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Speaker 1: didn't want to kiss the baby somebody wanted to do it.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't a baby nine year old? Yeah, no, it was.
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Speaker 1: She was a baby because someone else, someone asked. Someone asked,
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Speaker 1: you have intense fans, and I don't really have intense
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Speaker 1: fans with Aarons, and the fans are really like full on.
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Speaker 1: And she she comes up and she's she's like, um,
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Speaker 1: Carrie Underwood, was this eleven year old boys first kiss?
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Speaker 1: And I just think that's so rare. Can you be
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Speaker 1: my daughter's first kiss? I was like, you know, an
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Speaker 1: eleven year old boy going into school, Like if it
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Speaker 1: like if I was like eleven and my first kiss
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Speaker 1: was Brittany and you walk in and you're like yeah.
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Speaker 1: But if you're like a nine year old boy, someone's
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Speaker 1: a nine year old girl, you're getting You're getting police
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Speaker 1: called a creek. That's definitely a creepish. So yeah, I know,
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Speaker 1: I think I think the article is quite negative though.
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Speaker 1: It says like turns down a kiss from a fan,
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Speaker 1: But it's okay when you explain, it makes perfect thing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so you clearly don't agree with what Tiger and Kylie
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Speaker 1: are doing. Then what are they doing? Oh? They yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: guy kissing younger girl. Well, he has not confirmed that
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Speaker 1: allegedly it's alleged. Allegedly she's seventeen and he's worked twenty four. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I haven't really kept up with this. Is this is
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Speaker 1: this a thing? Good answer? No, I haven't really haven't
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Speaker 1: really kept up. I did know. I watched um, I
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Speaker 1: did watch the Kardashians once. I actually enjoyed it ugly.
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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Yeah, it was the one where Kanye's
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Speaker 1: had that song awesome that baby, You're awesome, but also
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Speaker 1: I'm also awesome that one. Oh God, I don't know
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Speaker 1: that it's it's it's a song about being awesome. That's
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Speaker 1: speaking the song. There's a few things that make me cry. Man,
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Speaker 1: when Ricky got shoting Boys in the Hood, When have
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Speaker 1: you seen boys in the Hood? Who I'm sorry? Yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: it's my Cousin's my cousin's favorite film. He yeah, he's
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Speaker 1: you know, he he really just like, as I know,
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Speaker 1: he found his father figure in that film. Again, it
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Speaker 1: was um yeah, I was gonna say Morpheus for a second,
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Speaker 1: so you know how you know how you know powerful
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Speaker 1: that scene is when Ricky gets shot, and like when
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Speaker 1: Vada is crying over Tommy not being able to have
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Speaker 1: his glasses in my Girl, that makes me cry. I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen Yeah, And Michael Jackson man in the mirror
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Speaker 1: in your song and kicking out loud thank you very much,
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Speaker 1: brings tears my eyes. Like he was playing a little
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Speaker 1: while to turn off. He was throwing things at me.
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Speaker 1: That's like everybody's a wedding song now though everybody's like,
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Speaker 1: I want to get married to that song. Yeah, it's not.
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Speaker 1: It's not. I keep meeting couples that get late to
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Speaker 1: it all the time, and it's it's a bit I
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Speaker 1: had Michael my cousin. Michael my cousin said she she
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Speaker 1: keeps getting cop blocks because she keeps getting guys like
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Speaker 1: being like, hey, they come back to come back to
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Speaker 1: mind and then they put on that. She's like, nah,
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Speaker 1: I'm not. Who's the girl that made you right there record?
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Speaker 1: And how amazing is her? I can't see the word.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my bad. Um, she's um, she's she's great,
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Speaker 1: she's great. So clearly you're still with her because you
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Speaker 1: want to be marrid with her till she's seven. You're seven.
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Speaker 1: I no, I'm not actually, oh god, and don't do that. Sorry, Really,
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Speaker 1: things happen, but you you're in a long term thing, right,
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Speaker 1: I'm married, buddy. I like that. That's a good reflection.
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Speaker 1: We're not we're not. We're not media trained, but I've
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Speaker 1: had enough. It's the thing. English people aren't media trained,
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Speaker 1: so we just come out with with random but it's um, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah. Well, journalists definitely like us a
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Speaker 1: lot because we we we we say the wrong thing
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Speaker 1: at the right time. Now, what was these porno clips
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Speaker 1: that Elton John sent you? Oh? No, that I mean
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Speaker 1: John sent you clips. He he runs the management company
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm signed to and I got to US Customs.
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Speaker 1: This is about two years ago, and I had like
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Speaker 1: seventeen new emails from him, and I was like, this
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Speaker 1: might be quite important. I clicked on one of them
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Speaker 1: and it was a girl bent over and then a
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Speaker 1: penis like a catapult like like but with like a ball,
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Speaker 1: and they fired it in and I know it was
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Speaker 1: that customs like because they don't let English people in
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Speaker 1: the country for anything, so like, yeah, it was that's
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Speaker 1: supposed to be on your phone in customs. No you're not,
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Speaker 1: You're not. Well yeah, yeah, I mean I still fly commercial.
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Speaker 1: I'll keep it real. You've got a lot of industry
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Speaker 1: friends for like such a regular guy, Like, do you've
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Speaker 1: really valued all the industry relationships, Like do you think
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Speaker 1: they're real? Some of them, Yeah, some of them, some
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Speaker 1: of them. You know. It's it's uh, it's it's interesting
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Speaker 1: because I I dropped out of school at a young
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Speaker 1: age and kind of found most of my friends in
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Speaker 1: older people, and it wasn't until I got into the
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Speaker 1: industry that I started really making Like I got my
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Speaker 1: school friends and stuff, but making friends of people that
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Speaker 1: were a similar age to me. So it's um and
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Speaker 1: they're all kind of doing the same sort of thing,
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Speaker 1: and it's it's hard to have a conversation with someone
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Speaker 1: that doesn't really know what is happening in your life.
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Speaker 1: But if someone yeah, it's it's it's cool, it's cool.
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Speaker 1: You can have good chats. Do you think these guys
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Speaker 1: would be your friends if you weren't like ed Sharing
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Speaker 1: the star recording artist. Yeah, because most of them of
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Speaker 1: my friends when nothing was really happening here. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I guess, I guess. So I hope so well your
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Speaker 1: industry friends. Who would you get to your industry friends?
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Speaker 1: Did Jamie Faxton you know she discovered you? Yeah? I did.
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Speaker 1: I did a gig and my first American gig was
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Speaker 1: in Englewood at a place called the Savoy Entertainment Theater
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Speaker 1: for a night called Fly Poet, which is a fantastic night.
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Speaker 1: And I turned up that night and I just said,
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Speaker 1: if anyone knows any other shows, can you can you
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Speaker 1: book me in? I'm here for a month, I've got
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Speaker 1: no plans. Noticed and John, the guy that ran it,
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Speaker 1: took me around. He got me booked in for the Foxhoul.
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Speaker 1: I met Jamie Fox's manager there who invited me on
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Speaker 1: the radio show. And then I was like, I don't
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Speaker 1: really have a place to stay, and he was like, well,
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Speaker 1: come and stay with me. So just did come stay
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Speaker 1: with me? Yeah, at his house. Yeah, and we went
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Speaker 1: to It was mad like because I arrived at the house,
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Speaker 1: I didn't really know what was happening to me. He's like, right,
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Speaker 1: we're going to my make's birthday party. As soon as
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Speaker 1: I arrived. And we went and Rafael said was the
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Speaker 1: house band. Everyone was dressed up as a cowboy and
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Speaker 1: it was whoa wait a minute, a coboy. It was
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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys and they dressed up like cowboys,
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Speaker 1: girls and girls and it was like it was like
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Speaker 1: a Rodeo themed birthday party. Look, did you see the
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Speaker 1: wall where he keeps all his hair lines? You know,
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Speaker 1: he got a bunch of hair lines like snack backs. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I saw the awards cabinet. That was pretty impressive. He's
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Speaker 1: he's he's to win a Grammy. Annon Oscar is pretty
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Speaker 1: like legit. Yeah, So does he make money off you
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Speaker 1: being there? He kind of like he really did discover you,
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Speaker 1: Like did he take you to other people? Well? I
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Speaker 1: flew back to England about three days after arriving at
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Speaker 1: his house. And yeah, so I I basically went to
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Speaker 1: go and build it back over in England. I think
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Speaker 1: if I'd have stayed over in America there would have
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Speaker 1: been something, but yeah, I had to go back to
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Speaker 1: England and do it. Do it. You got a lot
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Speaker 1: of lot for Cally. You got a whole album with
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Speaker 1: the game done. Yeah that was interesting. Yeah. He took
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Speaker 1: me to Compton to work and we well we did
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Speaker 1: like ten songs in two days. It was take another drink.
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Speaker 1: So well, I need to know more about you. So
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Speaker 1: what do you mean Compton? What did y'all do? I
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Speaker 1: made a lot of songs, made a lot of songs.
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Speaker 1: I mean he's obliged. He wears ray Jo red headed.
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Speaker 1: Didn't you know what I'm I've He's one of my
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Speaker 1: favorite rappers just like lyrically but also like with singers,
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Speaker 1: you can hear the emotion, but sometimes with rappers just
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Speaker 1: lyrics and flows, whereas him it's very emotive and very
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Speaker 1: um I feel everything that he says. So I got
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Speaker 1: a cool random cool is like what up? It's game?
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Speaker 1: My girls? A fan? Can she say hi? And I
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Speaker 1: think the phone was like hey, and then I said.
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Speaker 1: He went back on the phone and I said, I'm
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Speaker 1: going to be in La tomorrow. Do you want to
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Speaker 1: hook up and do a song? So I went there
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Speaker 1: and we did like five songs in a day. I
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Speaker 1: went back the next day we did another five and
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Speaker 1: it was he's a really good worker. He just kind
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Speaker 1: of smashes them out. But that he had loads of
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Speaker 1: girls in the studio just eating McDonald's and you could
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Speaker 1: you could find out when a song was good because
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Speaker 1: we'd make a song and I'd be like, oh, this
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Speaker 1: is really good, but they'd just be kind of there
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Speaker 1: just eating their nuggets, just like whatever. And then as
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Speaker 1: soon as one that, you know, we did a mustard
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Speaker 1: beat one and they'd be Oh, that's that's how you
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Speaker 1: know they were And I think I think he keeps
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Speaker 1: them like like um like Farrell. Farrell does it as
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Speaker 1: well where he tests songs out on groups of women
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Speaker 1: to see because they're the ones that are the consumers,
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Speaker 1: like that, they're the ones that would love the music.
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Speaker 1: I mean, guys are kind of go on what the
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Speaker 1: girls going. So yeah, Farrell test tests out on women
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Speaker 1: women as well. I think it's a good it's a
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Speaker 1: good thing. And now listen your music, and you seem
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Speaker 1: like such a nice guy, and it seems like you're
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Speaker 1: always like kind of looking for love, Like is that
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Speaker 1: a real thing? Are you just you know? Is that
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Speaker 1: just game to get the girls? Ah? No, I think
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Speaker 1: you know. I I come from a like Irish Catholic family.
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Speaker 1: My parents been married for thirty one years. My grandparents
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Speaker 1: are married for sixty six years. I have like a
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Speaker 1: bunch of cousins. Everyone's married and has loads of kids.
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Speaker 1: And I just come from a background of love and family.
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Speaker 1: And I guess that's what I tried to convey in
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Speaker 1: the music. Now mean that a lot of your friends
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Speaker 1: are music industry friends. Does that mean that the women
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Speaker 1: that you date, because I know you write a lot
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Speaker 1: about celebrity women that you've dated, you feel like you
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Speaker 1: have to be with the celebrity woman because you'll understand
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Speaker 1: you more. No, I just I just think. I just
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Speaker 1: think if if if you get on with the person,
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Speaker 1: they can understand, they can understand you. It's not I
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Speaker 1: don't think it's necessarily celebrity women. I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: it just depends on the situation and in times, what
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Speaker 1: you say you've been heartbroken so far, probably about as
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Speaker 1: many times as I've done it. You know. It's um,
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Speaker 1: you know, I think I think in in life you
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Speaker 1: break hearts and have your heart broken, and I think
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Speaker 1: that's just the way, especially when you're telling girls you
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Speaker 1: want to grow old with them and be with them
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Speaker 1: to their seventy. Man. Okay, I'm just gonna drink my coffee,
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Speaker 1: you know, but not for nothing. Charlotmagne about a year ago,
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Speaker 1: was telling the girls the same exact story and same
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Speaker 1: exact line. You're married, right, yes, So what were you
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Speaker 1: telling the girls that I was lying? That was lying everyone, everyone,
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Speaker 1: to everyone, that I was telling them what they want
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Speaker 1: to do? Her me as a faithful memo. Right now,
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Speaker 1: I am now. Man, Well, I got married in September. Oh,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the same girl for a long
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Speaker 1: time safe. So those vials really mean something to me.
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Speaker 1: So I've been good. So you wan't good before? Absolutely not.
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Speaker 1: Does she know that? Yes? Good? Everyone knows that. Yes.
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Speaker 1: You gotta be honest. Honesty is the because then you
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Speaker 1: know if you really love a preson, because you're like, okay,
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Speaker 1: you love them through all their mistakes, through all their flaws,
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Speaker 1: and you have to have favorite that that person will
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Speaker 1: be better. I mean absolutely. Now you work with Lupe,
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Speaker 1: you work with the game. Who somebody that you want
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Speaker 1: to work with that you have it. Uh. One of
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Speaker 1: the most interesting experiences actually was working with Rick Ross
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Speaker 1: because he's such a character you didn't word with. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: well he remix the song of Mine. But the way,
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Speaker 1: the way I met him was Julie Greenwood that runs
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Speaker 1: Atlantic and and Warner. She I was in the building
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Speaker 1: and she grows a nice woman. I don't think I've
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Speaker 1: ever but she she rings me up and she's like,
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Speaker 1: I got I got someone who has to meet you.
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Speaker 1: Come come in the office right now. And the only
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Speaker 1: way I can describe it is just this presence just
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Speaker 1: walks out a big homie and kind of like like
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Speaker 1: comes in for the hug. And then and then she's like,
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Speaker 1: you gotta remix this record. Let me play the record.
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Speaker 1: And so he sits down. I sit next to him,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know whether he likes the song. He's
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Speaker 1: just kind of sitting there and the song's playing, and
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Speaker 1: every now and then he just looks over and goes
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Speaker 1: every sort of like ten. I've started doing this. I've
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Speaker 1: started doing this. But yeah, and then as soon as
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Speaker 1: it ends, he's just like a just stands out and
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Speaker 1: gets really excited. He's like, right, I got the video
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Speaker 1: a deal, right, some dusty ass low income house and
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Speaker 1: places that Arkansas. You win a house, I'm coming to
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Speaker 1: get you. All you see is dust dust dust. Then
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Speaker 1: suddenly rolls Royce Fan and puts out, pulls up in
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Speaker 1: front of the house. You getting them bam vegas, seacup
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Speaker 1: titties to rack mmg, it's all going on, he said,
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Speaker 1: seacup titties, seacup can work all right, right, yeah, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: we never got to make that video. I think that
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Speaker 1: would have been fun. Has never come out, like the
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Speaker 1: labels came out, came out, well, even on the start
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Speaker 1: of the game that came out, that came out. That
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Speaker 1: hasn't come out yet just because I haven't properly finished it.
13:48
Speaker 1: I did it with drum and based band called Rudimental
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Speaker 1: as as as well, and they'd be making their album
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Speaker 1: once they've finished making their album making tweak bits and stuff.
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Speaker 1: But um, I'd really like to put it out some
13:58
Speaker 1: there's some cool stuff now. The true If you're planning
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Speaker 1: on taking a break from music, for a year so
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Speaker 1: you can do normal things, do you know what I
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Speaker 1: I The first thing I bought in my career was
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Speaker 1: a house and I haven't really lived in it. And
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Speaker 1: I want to just live for a bit, uh here
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Speaker 1: in America or no, it's in It's it's it's where
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Speaker 1: I grew up. But yeah, I think the thing it's
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Speaker 1: not necessarily just live. It's just not tall like not
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Speaker 1: spend a different every day in a different place making
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Speaker 1: money though, Yeah I know, but you know, publishing, you
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Speaker 1: can sit still and you can come home and write
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Speaker 1: and do stuff with the other people and collaborations and
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Speaker 1: go back on tour later. Yeah, I mean I'd like to.
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Speaker 1: I'd like to just live in my hometown for a
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Speaker 1: little bit, you know, do stuff, watch films and I
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Speaker 1: don't know. You've also said they label didn't think Living
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Speaker 1: out Loud was going to be like a huge hit song.
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Speaker 1: They didn't even want it to be the single. No,
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Speaker 1: well it's a weird thing because um the song, the
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Speaker 1: single at the moment song called Photograph and that was
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Speaker 1: always meant to be the big single. And when we
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Speaker 1: released the album in England, Thinking out Loud, which just
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Speaker 1: I mean thinking of it yeah, that's all right. M
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Speaker 1: It was just picked off the record just on iTunes
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Speaker 1: and it just went top twenty up until we decided
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Speaker 1: to make a video for it. So it was more
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Speaker 1: the public's reaction because when you put out a record
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Speaker 1: now you can work out what the most popular song
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Speaker 1: is just based on iTunes. So so yeah, it was that.
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Speaker 1: Um and yeah it worked out, it was I think
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Speaker 1: I think it did all right. Yeah, let's cool. Who
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Speaker 1: the hell is Nina? I liked that song off off
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Speaker 1: X Nina? Is that a fictional character or not somebody?
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Speaker 1: That was? Yeah? No, I was, I was with I
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Speaker 1: was with her for a while. Yeah. Um, and I
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Speaker 1: wrote that song well, well still with her actually um.
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Speaker 1: And and photograph actually but photographs about Nina tool Yeah
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Speaker 1: yeah but yeah no, that that was um Yeah, Now
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Speaker 1: I see why you and Taylor Swift get along. So
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Speaker 1: were you like writing songs about your exes? I think
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Speaker 1: any musician, like all love songs are about someone's ex
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Speaker 1: or current I don't know, Yeah, well you never hooked
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Speaker 1: up with Tailor swiftf you never smashed it? No? No, Um,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, because well I I met have a
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Speaker 1: drink in then are for that? Question, you just trying
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Speaker 1: to get me drunk? Uh. I met a professionally. First
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Speaker 1: we were writing songs and then um, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I just I get on really well with her, and
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Speaker 1: you know you don't want to ruin your friendship. Well not.
16:16
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds a bit weird. But have you
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Speaker 1: ever tried to smash no too tall, the short man
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Speaker 1: of nothing better than the tire Woman. I don't know, man,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like we look like cast
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Speaker 1: members of the Hobbit. Like she's like she's like in
16:35
Speaker 1: the Elven Kingdom. She's like, you know, hanging out with
16:38
Speaker 1: glad reel and stuff, and um, you know, got hairy feet.
16:41
Speaker 1: And in a couple of years, if we see you
16:43
Speaker 1: all together, we shouldn't be like he lied at us,
16:45
Speaker 1: because things could you know. I don't know. You know,
16:47
Speaker 1: I've I've got like my best friend from home, who
16:51
Speaker 1: I live opposite, who's who's Who's on tour is female,
16:53
Speaker 1: And I think it's healthy to have female friends that
16:55
Speaker 1: you don't smash. Got you now, did you used to
16:58
Speaker 1: get girls before your music popped off? Yeah, look like you.
17:07
Speaker 1: I've been out here christ for him now. So you
17:13
Speaker 1: was getting chicks in the UK, And I mean, I'm
17:15
Speaker 1: sure more now I know I was in a long
17:17
Speaker 1: term relationship from school up until up until it sort
17:22
Speaker 1: sort of it's taking off. Yeah, that's what most of
17:24
Speaker 1: the first albums about. And did you feel like you
17:25
Speaker 1: couldn't be in a relationship because you were just too busy.
17:29
Speaker 1: I think a relationship needs time to like grow, and
17:32
Speaker 1: to make it grow, you need to be there and
17:35
Speaker 1: I just was not there at all. You guys still friends? Yeah, yeah,
17:39
Speaker 1: she's in my friendship group like all my school friends.
17:42
Speaker 1: We're like it quite the hell is a friendship friendship group?
17:46
Speaker 1: Circle of trust? Yeah No, it's like all the all
17:48
Speaker 1: the people I grew up with. We're just all. We
17:51
Speaker 1: go to the same parties, chat check, we have a
17:55
Speaker 1: we have a WhatsApp. We group were group trapp on
17:57
Speaker 1: that and send weird pictures to each other and stuff.
17:59
Speaker 1: You say, I'm very interesting. You said you want to
18:01
Speaker 1: go back to your hometown and live and you know
18:02
Speaker 1: it's different in like hip hop and hip hop, a
18:04
Speaker 1: lot of people don't want to live in their hometown
18:06
Speaker 1: because you know, people grow jealous, they grow envious, and
18:09
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not safe. That can still happen like it's not.
18:12
Speaker 1: It's not just in the hip hop world. The amount
18:14
Speaker 1: of like, the amount of similarities I've I've found just
18:18
Speaker 1: in terms of like people expecting things like you know,
18:20
Speaker 1: I watched I watched that that thirty for thirty documentary
18:23
Speaker 1: on NFL players a million, Yeah, and it's it's it's
18:29
Speaker 1: the same sort of you get people coming up to
18:31
Speaker 1: you and you know, I saying, here's a business plan,
18:33
Speaker 1: or can you pay this? Or my tax bills a
18:35
Speaker 1: bit hi this month or just like. But I think
18:37
Speaker 1: I think I think in in life, um, not just
18:41
Speaker 1: in hip hop. I just think in life it's it's
18:43
Speaker 1: good to be it's good to be generous. Um. But
18:45
Speaker 1: I don't think it's as intense as that. Since it's
18:49
Speaker 1: so good to be generous, Oh shucks, don't you give it? No,
18:56
Speaker 1: don't don't take his money? You can? Are you crazy?
19:01
Speaker 1: Thank you, mister Shearing. I will bless you for the
19:06
Speaker 1: rest of your life for giving to the less fortunate.
19:13
Speaker 1: You know what, Give it to a homeless man today.
19:15
Speaker 1: He's not gonna do that. He's not gonna do that. Kids,
19:20
Speaker 1: have a beautiful sick your daughter, give it to you.
19:23
Speaker 1: I will do that actually, actually, you know what. Take
19:25
Speaker 1: take take your toys r us and say you can
19:28
Speaker 1: have whatever you want for budding. I'm gonna have you
19:30
Speaker 1: signed it. I'm gonna give it to it from Ed
19:31
Speaker 1: put in her better than bank account. What you mean
19:34
Speaker 1: I'm to strip club. You're gonna have to sign it
19:37
Speaker 1: on the bank account. The pen. Now, that's that's all
19:41
Speaker 1: I had on me, by the way, so that's not
19:44
Speaker 1: all you have, ed, mister. I'm taking a break for
19:46
Speaker 1: a year and let the publishing checks. This guy's a
19:49
Speaker 1: bird over. You gotta light it. I mean you got
19:51
Speaker 1: some weed on you want to take that too, Stell,
19:53
Speaker 1: take it all stop. I'll give you some weird. I
19:56
Speaker 1: got some weed in the next room. So that's kind
19:58
Speaker 1: of like you boughtch some weird from me, but you
19:59
Speaker 1: didn't buy to sell. You get me drunk and give
20:00
Speaker 1: me how long these white people come from? God, I've
20:08
Speaker 1: never seen anyway. You just get what people here, I mean,
20:11
Speaker 1: we do. We're not like this. I just looked like
20:12
Speaker 1: a drug train, a drug dealer. Now listen, have you
20:17
Speaker 1: been taking care of yourself because you keep giving your drinks? Well?
20:21
Speaker 1: I did, I did. I was very fat once because
20:23
Speaker 1: you said, because of the liquor and then keep getting
20:27
Speaker 1: the beer. Yeah, spirits are all right, but no, it
20:29
Speaker 1: was I got I was on tour for a year
20:31
Speaker 1: with with Taylor in America and just drunk a lot
20:34
Speaker 1: of beer and got quote road tons. I think is
20:39
Speaker 1: is I was very round and sweaty. Everybody always talks
20:44
Speaker 1: about how approachable you are, and I've seen you out
20:46
Speaker 1: in about a few times, like I've seen you at
20:48
Speaker 1: you know, Brooklyn Nets Games. We saw you at the
20:50
Speaker 1: Heart Festival. Yeah, I was with Kaiser, That's the only
20:53
Speaker 1: one I've come to. Yeah, I was. I was there
20:55
Speaker 1: that day and you were just kind of working around
20:57
Speaker 1: by yourself. Is it is it harder now though, because
21:00
Speaker 1: don't you feel like you have to have security? Because
21:02
Speaker 1: it does feel like I just sift rush you right now.
21:05
Speaker 1: I just got a security guard. I didn't have one
21:07
Speaker 1: for like four years. There's too many people out there.
21:10
Speaker 1: We went to we went to Manila and it was
21:15
Speaker 1: like I've never experienced anything like that. It was pure mentalness.
21:20
Speaker 1: Um yeah, so it's the word mental mentalness. Yeah. Just well,
21:25
Speaker 1: the thing is Manila was like first you'd get like
21:27
Speaker 1: all the fans that come over and rush you. But
21:29
Speaker 1: then you get all the people that want to know
21:31
Speaker 1: what's going on, and then then they come and rush,
21:33
Speaker 1: and then there's the others that just want to see
21:35
Speaker 1: what's going on with the what's going on, And it
21:37
Speaker 1: was just it was just a lot. So I got
21:38
Speaker 1: I got a security guard and life. Life is easier.
21:42
Speaker 1: Life is easier. I can leave clubs um and I'll
21:45
Speaker 1: take it a million one pictures. Well, I still do that.
21:48
Speaker 1: But what kind of instructions did you give your security like,
21:51
Speaker 1: you know, because you don't want them to be too
21:53
Speaker 1: much of a jerk shooper. But at the same time,
21:56
Speaker 1: it's difficult because it's I don't really give him any instruction,
22:00
Speaker 1: to be honest, I just he just he loves being
22:02
Speaker 1: nasty and I and I like being nice. So it's
22:05
Speaker 1: kind of see, you know, you meet in the middle
22:07
Speaker 1: and it's feel bad sometime, like he pushes somebody too hard,
22:10
Speaker 1: you like, he doesn't do that, he'd he'd get fired
22:13
Speaker 1: if he did that. Yeah, you can't. You can't be
22:15
Speaker 1: a violent person. Yeah, although actually am I think it
22:19
Speaker 1: was a TMZ dude started on him and said like
22:22
Speaker 1: it was like, oh fuck you up, bro, And keV
22:24
Speaker 1: used to be like back in the day, quite a
22:27
Speaker 1: dangerous dude. And yeah, he wasn't having it. It's good up, no,
22:32
Speaker 1: he laughed. But um yeah, yeah, I think I think
22:37
Speaker 1: his job is to not get into anything. That that's
22:39
Speaker 1: the whole thing with the security you don't like. It
22:41
Speaker 1: isn't like a muscle thing. It's just a prevention thing.
22:43
Speaker 1: But yeah, we don't want to meet him. He's out
22:46
Speaker 1: there outside the true You raise forty thousand dollars that
22:50
Speaker 1: are showing bristel for sex screet workers. That was a
22:52
Speaker 1: while ago. Yeah, I did. I did. It was you know,
22:56
Speaker 1: my my my first single was written about a I'm
23:00
Speaker 1: homeless woman that I met when I was working in
23:02
Speaker 1: a shelter and I you had sex word? No, I
23:06
Speaker 1: just I tried to, um know, it's a song. It's
23:09
Speaker 1: a song called Deep the eighteen, which is about which
23:10
Speaker 1: is about her. And because that song gave me a career,
23:15
Speaker 1: I tried to do as much as I can to
23:17
Speaker 1: give back to that sort of community. But this is
23:20
Speaker 1: a big different between meeting somebody in a homeless shelter
23:22
Speaker 1: in a sex screed worker, like a homeless person. Just
23:24
Speaker 1: was she a sex screed worker? Uh? I mean, I
23:28
Speaker 1: don't really know. I didn't really ask. Um, I guess
23:32
Speaker 1: assumptions were made, but yeah, I don't know. No, it
23:35
Speaker 1: was it was it was. It was involved with there's
23:38
Speaker 1: a charity in Anglical crisis, another one called Shelter, and
23:40
Speaker 1: it was involved with that, with that whole thing, and
23:42
Speaker 1: they were all kind of under the same same thing. Oh,
23:45
Speaker 1: somebody has to stand up a price to tools. I
23:46
Speaker 1: don't you know what, what's the problem. Why don't you
23:50
Speaker 1: give him a hundred hours he just gave you. Nope,
23:53
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't keep that. I know he's I'm
23:55
Speaker 1: gonna give it to my daughter. He's hating. Don't worry.
23:57
Speaker 1: What does she does she like? What does what she's like? Um,
24:02
Speaker 1: she wasn't the door. It explore she's kind of offt
24:03
Speaker 1: that she's into like the I Carlie now and stuff
24:06
Speaker 1: like that. It seems like you're when to maybe have
24:09
Speaker 1: kids soon. Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I
24:13
Speaker 1: think you're using condoms and everything. Yeah, I think it
24:15
Speaker 1: needs somebody time for condoms when you're in your position,
24:18
Speaker 1: especially when he's in his position. You know, I don't
24:22
Speaker 1: want to end up with like sixteen kids from different
24:24
Speaker 1: mothers make a great one. I want one family. It
24:27
Speaker 1: would make a really good reality show. Actually, that would
24:29
Speaker 1: be that would be interesting. Jesus, can you imagine I
24:32
Speaker 1: probably have to do a reality show because I wouldn't.
24:34
Speaker 1: I will all the child spool would go off and yeah,
24:37
Speaker 1: and you wrap two like you know a guy. It's
24:39
Speaker 1: like it's like two songs on your album when you're
24:41
Speaker 1: actually spitting. Can we hear something you wrap old school though?
24:44
Speaker 1: Old school something? Can we hear something? Yeah? I feel
24:51
Speaker 1: like it's a hit, but I'm not. I'm not really
24:52
Speaker 1: a rapper. Something I don't really know. Charlomagne had a
24:58
Speaker 1: rap name. His name was Dizzy Dizzy Van Winkles in
25:01
Speaker 1: me Slam King Kong and pick up free Trains. I
25:05
Speaker 1: bet you could be there. I don't ever want to
25:08
Speaker 1: be perfect because I'm a singer that you never want
25:11
Speaker 1: to see shirt less, and I accept the fact that
25:13
Speaker 1: someone's got a win worse dressed. I'm taking my first
25:15
Speaker 1: steps into the scene, keeping me focused. I'm putting on
25:17
Speaker 1: a brave face like Timothy Dalton considering the name change,
25:20
Speaker 1: thinking it was hopeless. I'm rhyming over recordings, avoiding tradition
25:23
Speaker 1: because every day some lyrics and a melody could be written.
25:25
Speaker 1: Absent can make your heartbreak, but drinking absent can change
25:27
Speaker 1: your mind state vividly. I need to let my liver be.
25:30
Speaker 1: I'll say it again, I'm living life on the edge
25:31
Speaker 1: with a cold, closed handful of friends. It's good advice.
25:34
Speaker 1: And the man who took his life in a row
25:35
Speaker 1: with me and I hope to see him blowing up
25:36
Speaker 1: globally because that's how it's supposed to be, screaming up vocally.
25:39
Speaker 1: It might seem totally impossible achieving live streams, but I
25:41
Speaker 1: just write schemes. I'm never having a stylus giving me
25:43
Speaker 1: tight jeans, Madison Square gardeners where I might be, But
25:45
Speaker 1: more likely you'll find me in the backroom of a
25:47
Speaker 1: dive bar, my mates having a point with McDade, discussing
25:50
Speaker 1: records we made and every single second, no one that
25:51
Speaker 1: will never betray the way it will raise. Remember in
25:53
Speaker 1: our background, sat down, that's how we plan it out.
25:56
Speaker 1: It's time to take it back now. I'm gonna tell
26:00
Speaker 1: you how you know he's a rapper because rappers bit written.
26:02
Speaker 1: Yeah that on your album sir. I'm not going to
26:06
Speaker 1: freestyle on this show. Imagine I heard that on your
26:10
Speaker 1: albums in that same song you wrapped about being in
26:12
Speaker 1: a movie star or something like that. Maybe maybe I
26:15
Speaker 1: don't I don't recall. Yeah, maybe no. I just you know,
26:18
Speaker 1: you know, I I like I like saying a lot
26:21
Speaker 1: of things, and I really like rap music, and I
26:24
Speaker 1: feel like there's no point in doing a rap something
26:26
Speaker 1: unless you used to do it properly. Um. So I've
26:29
Speaker 1: only done three because they take around the year to write,
26:32
Speaker 1: because I'll write like one bar a month just to
26:36
Speaker 1: make sure it's it's it's it's a bit more melodic
26:39
Speaker 1: than that. You know, that sounded like a spoken word
26:41
Speaker 1: thing by ork an Englishman, but it sounds all right.
26:44
Speaker 1: Every Friday we do our Friday songs and we're not
26:48
Speaker 1: asking you because you're wait, but we're asking you because
26:50
Speaker 1: you you're the only pop singers came up here. And
26:54
Speaker 1: he's not justin Bieber, Mary, Mariah, Jerry. Do you even
27:01
Speaker 1: work here? Are you your first time here? Huh? Would
27:05
Speaker 1: you mind singing with us our Friday song today? Yeah?
27:08
Speaker 1: That's what is t G I by Katy Perry And
27:12
Speaker 1: then we sing Rebecca Black Friday. I love that song.
27:16
Speaker 1: You know love that we come back like another drink
27:20
Speaker 1: just because I've had three notes. Okay, okay, let's go Friday,
27:26
Speaker 1: all right, Special edition of the Goon Tunes this morning.
27:29
Speaker 1: What you want to do? Hashtagon, don't. I don't know
27:34
Speaker 1: if I'm doing wonders for your street cred. Yes you are.
27:37
Speaker 1: You're helping the South. Yeah. We have a group called
27:42
Speaker 1: No Direction. That's right. Okay, you're our Harry style Wrong Direction.
27:45
Speaker 1: I'm in there, you go, all right? Absolutely? Do you
27:47
Speaker 1: know Katie Perry? Yeah, yeah, I do. I did well,
27:50
Speaker 1: she because she came out to me after the Grammy,
27:52
Speaker 1: because I've I've never wanted Grammy. I lost my sixth
27:55
Speaker 1: this year and she came up to me and said
27:56
Speaker 1: that she lost thirteen, so don't worry about it, and
27:58
Speaker 1: then asked if I wanted to smell her own But really,
28:01
Speaker 1: did you smell it? I didn't, come on. You gotta
28:04
Speaker 1: do that for the brothers like me. We don't get
28:05
Speaker 1: those opportunities, man, smell it and then sneak a lick?
28:09
Speaker 1: What a lick? Right under her armpits discussed Yeah, I
28:12
Speaker 1: mean yeah, Katy Peary has got some of the best
28:14
Speaker 1: breasts in the game. There you are you ready? Are
28:17
Speaker 1: you ready? I'm ready? You got your black hood on? Y?
28:19
Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm ready? And Sharon, are you ready? Yeah?
28:22
Speaker 1: I'll go really terrible. I sight so I'm trying to
28:24
Speaker 1: read this. Here we go. It's Friday. It's Friday. It's Friday.
28:32
Speaker 1: There's a stranger in my bad come up. There's a pounding,
28:35
Speaker 1: ain't my head? Hey, glad all over the room? Hey,
28:38
Speaker 1: man goes in the pool, Come out. I smell like
28:41
Speaker 1: a manny bar. Hey, DJ pounds out in the come out.
28:44
Speaker 1: Bobby's on the bobbecue pictures. Hey, hey, I'm screwed. What
28:52
Speaker 1: you say? Oh, well, he's blacked out by Shaw and Bro. Damn.
29:01
Speaker 1: Last Friday ain't night. Yeah. We dance on table times
29:05
Speaker 1: and we do many shots. I think we gets money
29:08
Speaker 1: out of god. Last Friday night. Yeah, we manage on
29:12
Speaker 1: credit cars. Ain't gonna get out of the bars, so
29:15
Speaker 1: we hit the bulling mark. That's Friday. Ain't night. We
29:18
Speaker 1: went drinking in the bark, skinny dipping in the dark.
29:22
Speaker 1: Damn n Oh, I didn't know she had a threesmon. Sorry, whoa?
29:31
Speaker 1: It's Friday day? Do it all night? Do it? Oh again? Okay,
29:45
Speaker 1: come on, your trying to cut that. Come on, just
29:49
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell my boss, can't take the city,
29:52
Speaker 1: told my car lyrics on the floor, my favorite party dress,
29:56
Speaker 1: scoring stop for my arrest an need a ginger? That
30:00
Speaker 1: was such an epic fail pictures last night, ain't head
30:04
Speaker 1: up only I'm what you say? He I said, Yeah,
30:10
Speaker 1: it's a black sure it ruled. Damn last Friday, ain't
30:17
Speaker 1: n there we go? Yeah, we danced on the table
30:19
Speaker 1: time damn man, he shot sting. We kiss, but I
30:23
Speaker 1: forgot last Friday, ain't n therein go. Yeah, we mixed
30:26
Speaker 1: our credit cards. Ain't got kicked out up the ball,
30:29
Speaker 1: so we hit the bullet bar last Friday. Ain't night.
30:32
Speaker 1: Sharry was standing in the straight in the I can't
30:35
Speaker 1: even read it. Last Friday night. Yeah, I think we
30:41
Speaker 1: broke the ball. Weren't going to stop, but a whoa
30:46
Speaker 1: hit this harmony? D here me go do it? Oh again,
30:51
Speaker 1: there we go? Okay, one more time, more time, here
30:54
Speaker 1: we go, do it? Oh again, ladies and gentlemen, Sharon,
31:00
Speaker 1: let's get lo t g I f t g I
31:05
Speaker 1: f t g I f t g I t g
31:11
Speaker 1: t g I f t g Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday,
31:25
Speaker 1: Good Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday and Friday and Friday and
31:31
Speaker 1: Friday Friday. I feel like that went on one verse
31:34
Speaker 1: too long. You know, you know how I know ed
31:37
Speaker 1: has a lot of black in them, because when black
31:38
Speaker 1: people don't know the words, they just hum like I
31:40
Speaker 1: think everyone does that. That's what I do with that.
31:42
Speaker 1: Young I have no idea what he's saying. Nobody does
31:45
Speaker 1: except for young Thug. Oh, I'm rich homey corn that
31:50
Speaker 1: I saw you that you like rich on me kun
31:52
Speaker 1: he was just here. I love it. Did you respond
31:53
Speaker 1: to your tweet? I doubt it, rich Fan, Okay, you
31:58
Speaker 1: gotta to keep going. It's till goon tune time reads
32:03
Speaker 1: messing up my floor too much. No, I'm a much
32:06
Speaker 1: better singer than at least for these two songs. We
32:10
Speaker 1: should carry on asking all good questions. I thought. I
32:12
Speaker 1: thought this industry is going to be more difficult. I agree. No,
32:14
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about your eyes because
32:16
Speaker 1: you said I looked. You said you couldn't hardly read. Yeah,
32:19
Speaker 1: And when I first saw you, I thought something was
32:21
Speaker 1: actually wrong with your eyes really like they looked like
32:23
Speaker 1: they were too far apart. I got. I got a
32:27
Speaker 1: lazy eye. I got lazy. I had a birthmark on
32:30
Speaker 1: my eye. Um that was turning into glau coma, which
32:34
Speaker 1: meant I would have gone blind. Um story, and I
32:39
Speaker 1: got it, lays it off, which gave me a stutter
32:43
Speaker 1: for a while, and also a lazy eye. Got an
32:45
Speaker 1: eye that goes that way? Really yeah, No, this was
32:50
Speaker 1: when I was like to, oh, yeah, but my eye
32:54
Speaker 1: still goes off that way. That scares me sometimes. That's whatever.
32:57
Speaker 1: You know, I'm perfectly imperfect. You said on your album,
33:01
Speaker 1: you said we are what Guard made us. We are. Yeah,
33:04
Speaker 1: and thankfully like the way I look at it. Because
33:07
Speaker 1: I was a weird kid and I wasn't. I wasn't
33:08
Speaker 1: like I had big blue glasses and I was odd.
33:12
Speaker 1: But I think God looked down at some point and
33:14
Speaker 1: said you need some help getting laid. Here is a
33:16
Speaker 1: guitar going forward to my son, We got you into
33:23
Speaker 1: hip paps almost because you love hip hop music. Do
33:25
Speaker 1: you know what funny story, My uncle Jim, who we
33:29
Speaker 1: call Jim Shady Jim, shurned up at my house when
33:32
Speaker 1: I was nine and started going my life's like kind
33:35
Speaker 1: of what my wife's like and I didn't really know
33:37
Speaker 1: what he was going on about. And he told my
33:39
Speaker 1: dad that the Marshall Mathers LP was the next Bob Dylan.
33:43
Speaker 1: He said that Eminem was the next Bob Dylan and
33:44
Speaker 1: you should buy it for so my dad bought me
33:48
Speaker 1: Marshal Mada Zelpi at nine. He didn't really know what
33:51
Speaker 1: was on it. Um and that that kind that kind
33:53
Speaker 1: of opened the gateway because through through that you discovered
33:56
Speaker 1: Dre and then you discovered two Pack and Biggie and
33:59
Speaker 1: Big Part and then they just kind of who happens
34:01
Speaker 1: that big, big, big, big pun one thing you said,
34:04
Speaker 1: that's interesting that you said, how you know God blessed
34:06
Speaker 1: you with the ability to play guitar. And I always
34:08
Speaker 1: say that because Biggie had a line um black and ugly.
34:12
Speaker 1: As ever, however, as long as you gotta however, you
34:16
Speaker 1: can always prosper. Yeah, well I think I justly he
34:20
Speaker 1: might have the Biggie line. And I said when Biggie said, however,
34:24
Speaker 1: he also said you were so fine and suck your
34:25
Speaker 1: daddy dick. He did say that say that actually came
34:29
Speaker 1: from a Richard Pryor stand up special. Yes, I love
34:33
Speaker 1: that line. I don't need Biggie can get away with that.
34:37
Speaker 1: That's had some of the most pause worthy lyrics that
34:41
Speaker 1: when it comes to sex, love to thriller and Biggie
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Speaker 1: squeeze it. Make this. I got the pack up in
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Speaker 1: the back of the pack five. You know Jame car
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Speaker 1: spiff again swift with the librical gift that hit him
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Speaker 1: with my dick and ship go here we go. I'm
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Speaker 1: the Domino. I got the funk flow to make your
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Speaker 1: draws drop slow, so recognize the dick size and what
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Speaker 1: I mean around and hit you with the hanness grip.
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Speaker 1: Don't remember me, but you don't forget to see ship.
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Speaker 1: Jesus my way deep throat on route. So when the
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Speaker 1: moon rises, I'm coming in her eyes. Isn't just the
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Speaker 1: wild players play? Leave it up to me. I get
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Speaker 1: a fuck told day, drunk, old day, counting, stuck in cheese,
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Speaker 1: fucking bitches to the assholes. That's on big booty hose
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Speaker 1: Yeah second the second, Yeah big. He also said his
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Speaker 1: man fuck little kids in the ass and throws them
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Speaker 1: over a bridge. Yeah he did. You know, my man
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Speaker 1: got a kid naps kids, fuck them in the ass,
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Speaker 1: both with the bridge. Yeah he did say that too.
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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ's Who's your favorite rapper of all time? Uh?
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Speaker 1: The first two Eminem albums two of my favorite albums
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Speaker 1: of all time. Rapper, it just changes day by day. Um.
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Speaker 1: I only just I discovered Big Pun late, probably about
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Speaker 1: four years ago, five years ago actually, Um. I was
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Speaker 1: on tour in England with a rapper who had um
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Speaker 1: the ninety seven twins and um, just from from that
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Speaker 1: he used to wrap over it and yeah, and then
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Speaker 1: he played me you know you ain't a killer, you're
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Speaker 1: just learning how the world from New York to kill
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Speaker 1: that one. Um, So you learned from the Deep Cup joint. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the Deep cover him. Yeah, it was just the first
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Speaker 1: eight bars of that song is just what Yeah. But um,
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Speaker 1: have you met fair Joel? No, never met Fat Joe.
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Speaker 1: I met him all Technique the other day. That was
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Speaker 1: that was that. That was cool. He's a really nice guy.
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Speaker 1: I was a big fan of him when I was young.
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Speaker 1: What about Eminem? I had the opportunity I made. I
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Speaker 1: made my album with Rick Rick Rubin, and Rick was
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Speaker 1: in New York when I was in New York, and
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Speaker 1: he said, I'm doing SNL with Eminem, do you want
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Speaker 1: to come down? So I went down. He said, you
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Speaker 1: want to meet him? And I said, would he know
36:57
Speaker 1: who I am? And he said, unless you're an underground
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Speaker 1: rapping from Detroit, he wouldn't. So I said, okay, I'll wait, because, um,
37:02
Speaker 1: I waited. I waited to meet jay Z. I had
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Speaker 1: a few opportunities to meet him, and I don't want
37:08
Speaker 1: to be the dude that just gets a picture and
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Speaker 1: then that that's it. And I waited to meet jay
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Speaker 1: Z and it was it was worth it because I
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Speaker 1: got to go for dinner and actually have a proper
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Speaker 1: conversation with him. And I want to do that with eminem.
37:17
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to like foto. I want
37:19
Speaker 1: to actually have a conversation. Now, what do you think
37:21
Speaker 1: about people who say that a white guy like yourself
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Speaker 1: and Sam Smith are stealing black people sell I think
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Speaker 1: we're embracing it. I think I think, um, it's it's
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Speaker 1: something that should be celebrated. I never um, I never
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Speaker 1: don't give credit where it's due, you know, I'm I'm
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Speaker 1: very open of who influences me, what albums I'm listening to.
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Speaker 1: I take people on tour. I don't think it's for
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Speaker 1: me anyway. And Sam, I don't think it's necessarily a
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Speaker 1: theft thing. I think it's a celebration of music, and
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Speaker 1: I think if you do it correctly and respectfully, um
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Speaker 1: one can really knock it, you know. I think you know,
38:02
Speaker 1: timber Lake's done a very good job of really embracing
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Speaker 1: it and really kind of um yeah, it was kind
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Speaker 1: of hypocritical. Or when you hear black singer say you
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Speaker 1: shouldn't do this kind of music because you're away, I've
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Speaker 1: never heard anyone say that for me to me. Um.
38:18
Speaker 1: I got nominated for Music of Black Origin Awards in
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Speaker 1: England and actually three years in a row, and didn't
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Speaker 1: turn up for that very reason because I feel like
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Speaker 1: it should go to someone a bit more deserving than me.
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Speaker 1: But um yeah, other than other than awards, I haven't
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Speaker 1: had anyone say anything like that. We appreciate you joining
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Speaker 1: us a lot of fun and anytime you're in town,
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Speaker 1: you come on through. You ain't even got a call,
38:42
Speaker 1: you ain't got a nactors come with turn up. Let's
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Speaker 1: come turn up. Have you seen him? He's got so thin?
38:52
Speaker 1: I like it, Gastric Band. I was watching Entourage the
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Speaker 1: other day. I didn't because I only know big Boy
38:57
Speaker 1: from being skinny skinny boy. Yeah. Yeah, and I didn't
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Speaker 1: realize he was big before. That's amazing. Big boy was big.
39:04
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not. I'm not American. I'm not American.
39:08
Speaker 1: So we don't really we have two radios, were up
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Speaker 1: three three radio stations in England and then one on
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Speaker 1: He's on Capital one. Yeah it was no, he was
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Speaker 1: on Radio one. I think he's think he's moved over. Yeah,
39:21
Speaker 1: and then there's Radio one Capital and then the Battle
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Speaker 1: Network and yeah, they which I just don't I haven't
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Speaker 1: really paid much. You'll probably the only show I actually
39:30
Speaker 1: played attention. I shouldn't say that politically, but like I
39:33
Speaker 1: do check every time there's a new video up, or
39:35
Speaker 1: do check and watch the interviews, because I find like
39:38
Speaker 1: your interviews are quite challenging. They're not like you haven't
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Speaker 1: you haven't got a list of questions in front of
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Speaker 1: you and you're just going through the motions. It's like
39:45
Speaker 1: you really pushed people's buttons. Well you said this was
39:47
Speaker 1: easy for you, thought it is going to be worse. Yeah, well,
39:49
Speaker 1: Howard Stern, Howard Stern, I was shitting it for and
39:51
Speaker 1: that that that that was a lot easier than I expected.
39:55
Speaker 1: But I came in here knowing that we were going
39:57
Speaker 1: to have fun, and yeah, knowing that you'd ask about
39:59
Speaker 1: eating the box. Yeah, you actually brought that. That's the
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Speaker 1: first question a quottion. You talked about eating as we
40:06
Speaker 1: talked about colorism. Goon squads admit that. Yes, yeah, ye
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Speaker 1: admitted that you make assholes bleed. Oh I did not.
40:22
Speaker 1: Tims have always been quite good to me. They yeah,
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Speaker 1: they haven't. Really. There's one girl that really doesn't like
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Speaker 1: me in the office. She's she's really anti No, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I got to talk to Van and Harvey
40:33
Speaker 1: about that. There are people actually I've never met them,
40:36
Speaker 1: but they're Yeah, they're always They're always nice to me.
40:38
Speaker 1: I think until I fuck up, they're going to be
40:40
Speaker 1: nice to me. When you suck up the thing about
40:45
Speaker 1: the roomal meal in the blogs, if you don't give
40:46
Speaker 1: them nothing, they don't have anything to feed off, right. Yeah.
40:49
Speaker 1: But I think I think it's healthy just to be
40:51
Speaker 1: human and live. I think I think the moment you
40:54
Speaker 1: start hiding stuff is when you get caught, the moment
40:56
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, no, I don't do this, and
40:58
Speaker 1: then when you call everyone's like, oh no, you actually
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Speaker 1: do Um. Yeah, so I think like i've I've always
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Speaker 1: been very open with this sort of thing music. You know,
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Speaker 1: you do, you have sex, you do drugs, you drink,
41:10
Speaker 1: you got and cheated on you. Sound like a regular
41:12
Speaker 1: guy to me. Sound like Charlotage's trying to take advantage
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Speaker 1: of it. He's giving you four drinks. Listen. I like
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Speaker 1: the guy we could tell thank you do do men
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Speaker 1: ever hit on you? Do you know what? Actually I went?
41:24
Speaker 1: I took It was one of Taylor's dances when we
41:26
Speaker 1: were on tour, and it was one of her dancers birthdays,
41:29
Speaker 1: and I took him and well, I didn't I didn't
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Speaker 1: know I was going to this place, but it ended
41:33
Speaker 1: up being quite quite fun and interesting. But it was
41:36
Speaker 1: a place in Atlantic Swinging Richards, which is a game.
41:44
Speaker 1: So I took and do you know what? We were
41:46
Speaker 1: playing in Atlanta the next day and Bob was the
41:48
Speaker 1: guest and he said, oh, you got it up to
41:50
Speaker 1: anything at Atlanta And I was like, oh, I went
41:52
Speaker 1: to Swinging Richards last night. And him and his manager
41:54
Speaker 1: were just like another gay thing in the industry. Hey,
41:59
Speaker 1: but no, you know I whatever, whatever I bought I bought,
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Speaker 1: I bought Ricky the guy, the dancer, I bought him
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Speaker 1: a dance. The thing, the thing that I was surprised
42:10
Speaker 1: at was all the dudes and there were straight and
42:13
Speaker 1: they were just earning a lot of money just to
42:16
Speaker 1: have a six pack and just windmill. That's how I
42:20
Speaker 1: describe it. Sam Smith's cool man, you know. But you
42:25
Speaker 1: know I have I have gay friends, are straight friends.
42:27
Speaker 1: I have friends that swing both ways. I just, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think I think like humans, humans are fun to
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Speaker 1: hang around with. And I don't. I don't, I don't like,
42:36
Speaker 1: I don't like, you know, I I have no I
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Speaker 1: have no objections to the way that anyone lives their
42:47
Speaker 1: life unless it's really negative and bad and then means people.
42:51
Speaker 1: But I think I think if you're like, Sam's a
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Speaker 1: really fucking cool guy. Um, and I really enjoy his company.
42:56
Speaker 1: I have a quote, I'm too dumb to be closed minded. Okay,
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Speaker 1: takes a certain level of intelligence to be clothed minded.
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Speaker 1: I don't know nothing. Yeah, but if you're closed minded,
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Speaker 1: you spend your whole life angry at things. Yeah, And
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Speaker 1: I think I think it's it's it's easier just to
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Speaker 1: be whatever. Let's just let's all hang out, dumb and free. Yeah,
43:15
Speaker 1: I doeah, I don't. I don't get the whole closed
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Speaker 1: minded this thing. Um, yeah, it's not it's not really
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Speaker 1: something I've really lived by, but I agree. Like my
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Speaker 1: my mum and dad work in the art like painting industry.
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Speaker 1: They don't paint, but they used to working out, So
43:30
Speaker 1: you know, that's a massive thing in that in that world,
43:33
Speaker 1: and I just grew up around it and it's just
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Speaker 1: never really affects me. My brother, we appreciate you joining us.
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