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8-17-26 Hour 3 - Smooth flow on offense/Nuggets and Broncos in similar situation/LeBron's a YouTuber? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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Speaker 2: Watch out for Prentice the full back here. The handoff
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Speaker 2: is to Prentice and he is in for the touchdown.
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Speaker 2: A seven play drive results in a touchdown for the
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Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. Play action pressure coming off the backside, the
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Speaker 2: pass dump Doctor McLoughlin and he gets in for the touchdown.
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Speaker 2: Julia McLoughlin off the pass from Jared Stidham.
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Speaker 3: Third and six.
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Speaker 2: They can get a first down.
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Speaker 4: Without getting a touchdown.
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Speaker 3: Rush tick Paul and that one's in.
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Speaker 1: Barren all the way the pick six.
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Speaker 3: Eight yards.
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Speaker 5: Coach, thank you, We know you win here in Atlanta,
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Speaker 5: and it looks like you're gonna continue that straight well.
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Speaker 3: in for Vic n MOS today twenty seven to seven
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Speaker 3: win preseason game number one over the Falcons. Would you
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Speaker 3: like most that first game, Chad.
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Speaker 4: I'd like the rhythm of the offense, the fast starting too,
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Speaker 4: the play calling, the run pass balance. There were a
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Speaker 4: few times where they were I'm not sure if they
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Speaker 4: were purposely going up tempo with the calls are just
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Speaker 4: coming in with such smoothness. There's a pressure that puts
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Speaker 4: on the defense. Not only do we have to get
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Speaker 4: the call in and communicate it, but now we've got
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Speaker 4: to make our checks. And if you're constantly always on
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Speaker 4: time as an offense, you never give the defensive chance
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Speaker 4: to breathe. Yeah, so obviously I'm going to look at
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Speaker 4: life through with the defensive lens. But Davis Webb's play
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Speaker 4: calling puts additional pressure on the defense that Sean Payton's
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Speaker 4: play calling did not do.
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Speaker 3: And you have this balance. Whenever it's preseason, it's like
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Speaker 3: does it matter, does it not matter? Will it translate?
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Speaker 3: There's one thing I think that will and is what
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Speaker 3: you mentioned. It's last year. Over the last couple of years, actually,
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Speaker 3: it's felt like bon Nicks is waiting for Sean Payton
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Speaker 3: to give him the play call and he's doing this,
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Speaker 3: He's like, come on, hurry up, I want to get
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Speaker 3: up to the line. I'm want to look at the defense.
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Speaker 3: And when you get up to the line with six
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Speaker 3: or seven seconds, eight seconds left on the play clock,
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Speaker 3: there's not a lot of reading of the defense that
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Speaker 3: you're gonna be doing. If your bon Nicks, it's more
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Speaker 3: just reacting. I noticed there was a bunch of times
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Speaker 3: in that first preseason game that whether it was Stidham
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Speaker 3: elling or whoever, they were at the line with about
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Speaker 3: fifteen seconds on the play clock, able to get into
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Speaker 3: a check if they have to, all that different stuff,
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Speaker 3: and that's where you talk about the rhythm of the offense.
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Speaker 3: It felt like there was a tempo to the offense
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Speaker 3: which hasn't been there for a while.
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Speaker 4: Even separate from the ability to scan the defense. Are
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Speaker 4: they two high, they one high? All that kind of stuff,
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Speaker 4: all those reads intels you can get from the defense.
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Speaker 4: Just from an operational standpoint, do you operate better when
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Speaker 4: you're full of angst and trying to hurry up or
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Speaker 4: do you operate more clear minded when you've got a
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Speaker 4: second to breathe. So again, if we're going to give
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Speaker 4: Bo Nick's best chance for success and recognizing that it's
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Speaker 4: probably never going to be a top tier, Tier one quarterback,
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Speaker 4: then this is important. This is going to maximize his ability.
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Speaker 4: This is going to get him more centered. And part
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Speaker 4: of Bonick's struggles is he speeds things up too much. Well,
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Speaker 4: if you're already sped up because you're doing the hand
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Speaker 4: motion to hurry up, get the call in, and then
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Speaker 4: you're spitting out the call on the fast pace in
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Speaker 4: the huddle and you're trying to get to the line,
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Speaker 4: that sped up process is going to carry into the
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Speaker 4: play once the ball is snapped. You can't be cool
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Speaker 4: and calm in the pocket. Your footwork can't be measured
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Speaker 4: and consistent if your mind is racing. Yeah, so this
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Speaker 4: will pay dividends.
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Speaker 3: And you saw it. I mean the first drive of
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Speaker 3: the game, six plays in a touchdown, Jared Stidham was
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Speaker 3: nine to fifteen FO one hundred and thirty one yards
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Speaker 3: a touchdown, no picks. He looked great. And I know
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Speaker 3: that there's like you mentioned this earlier, Chad, and I
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Speaker 3: think it's right. There's a battle here for the backup
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Speaker 3: quarterback spot between him and Ellinger. Two different types of
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks selling a little bit more athletic and mobile. But
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Speaker 3: Stidham just feels like Keith Shaan's guy. Just feels like
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton really likes him. He was a target immediately
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Speaker 3: when he got here, and the bummer for him is
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Speaker 3: the one game that we saw real life NFL experience
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Speaker 3: in two years was the AFC title game. That was
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Speaker 3: just a ball of different circumstances and variables all thrown together.
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Speaker 3: I don't think that that game looks any different if
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Speaker 3: Ellinger's playing in it than Stidham, outside of maybe some
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Speaker 3: some more runs from the quarterback. But the good news
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Speaker 3: is if both of these guys are in a battle,
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Speaker 3: both of them looked pretty good in that first preseason game.
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Speaker 4: I thought they both did look really good. But I
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Speaker 4: think the battle is not just based upon the skill set,
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Speaker 4: It's also based on the salary cap implications. Jared Stidham
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Speaker 4: is the highest payed quarterback on this roster at eight
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Speaker 4: million bucks for this season.
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Speaker 3: I think they save four and a half if they
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Speaker 3: cut them.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Ellinger is at two million bucks, So you've got
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Speaker 4: the Sean Payton. Give me the guy with the experience,
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Speaker 4: give me the guy who earned people's trust last year.
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Speaker 4: Give me the guy who I know knows my offense
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Speaker 4: and is comfortable with it. Give me, give me that guy.
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Speaker 4: And George Payton's like, hey man, we can save a
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Speaker 4: ton of money.
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Speaker 3: Here's so, could you explain this to me? So if
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Speaker 3: they cut Stidham and I think the number is four
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Speaker 3: and a half million dollars, they would get back because
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Speaker 3: I think his his dead caps, like three and a
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Speaker 3: half You are correct, What do you do it's just
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Speaker 3: for this year. What do you do with the four
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Speaker 3: and a half million this year?
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Speaker 4: Then?
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Speaker 3: How valuable is that at this point in the calendar
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Speaker 3: to a football team.
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Speaker 4: Well, you can go. You can always get a discount
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Speaker 4: if you sign guys ahead of time. Sure to give
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Speaker 4: Pats or Tan the bump that they.
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Speaker 3: Gave him when they gave him the money.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that wasn't just oh we love you. That's to
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Speaker 4: hold off you coming back and demanding, Hey, this other
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Speaker 4: guy is getting thirty three million bucks a year.
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Speaker 3: Jvon Witherspoon just got thirty four a year over the weekend, right, Yeah, and.
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Speaker 4: Then the Christian Gonzalez is former CU buff by the way,
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Speaker 4: who left for greener pastures at Oregon. He's going to
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Speaker 4: now get more than thirty four to thirty four point
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Speaker 4: five right from the Patriots. So this is that's to
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Speaker 4: hold off those kind of things. So that's what you
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Speaker 4: can do with an extra money. If you've got a
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Speaker 4: proactive ownership group and a proactive GM. I've got this
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Speaker 4: money to play with. How can I keep my locker
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Speaker 4: room together? How can I keep the demand's quiet a bit?
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Speaker 4: How can I extend somebody, uh before they before their
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Speaker 4: agent comes to me, I can go to them.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is what's funny is that this happened. I
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Speaker 3: think back in OTA's is what I happened when Sirtan
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Speaker 3: had his contract in other corners got paid money, way
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Speaker 3: more money than what Sirtan was getting paid. And before
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Speaker 3: anything even happened, the Broncos went to Certaanna was like, here,
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Speaker 3: do you just want a couple more million dollars? I
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Speaker 3: will see how this looks here. Take this, take this,
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Speaker 3: no strings attached, Just take the money. It's rare for
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Speaker 3: a team to do that.
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Speaker 4: By the way, it's cancredibly be rare, But that's I
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Speaker 4: think that certain's rare to get to get above that.
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Speaker 4: And why would you knowing that the salaries at that
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Speaker 4: position for the top flight guys are getting up there.
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Speaker 4: Why not try to keep that guy happy? Yeah, keep
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Speaker 4: him quiet? Why get into a beef with your best
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Speaker 4: overall player.
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Speaker 3: Yep. The other thing that I loved, and I want
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Speaker 3: you to speak to this again. You know, I've been
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Speaker 3: intrigued by Jonah Coleman because he He's a compactly built guy.
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Speaker 3: And we saw there was one run in that first
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Speaker 3: preseason game, bounced off attackle spin move turned the four
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Speaker 3: yard run into a thirteen yard run, and he stylistically
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Speaker 3: looks a little bit more like a JK. Dobbins runner,
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Speaker 3: which you didn't have when he got hurt last year,
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Speaker 3: and I think it was a big problem as to
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Speaker 3: why the running game kind of fell flat. If he
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Speaker 3: can provide a sort of safety valve to any injury
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Speaker 3: that's suffered by JK. Dobbins, I think that'd be great.
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Speaker 3: And I thought he had a good debut in that
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Speaker 3: first preseason game. But you knew his college running backs
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Speaker 3: coach really well, right, Tell the people about that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Scotty Graham, he and I played together in the league.
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Speaker 4: Scotty and I were part of the PA. He was
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Speaker 4: a Union rep. So was I then he became one
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Speaker 4: of the PA reps to the teams. So I've known
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Speaker 4: Scotty for a long time. He's as detailed and is
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Speaker 4: dedicated with a football person I've ever been around. So
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Speaker 4: for Jonah Coleman to follow him from Arizona to Washington,
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Speaker 4: that speaks to Scotty's coaching, yep. But then the person
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Speaker 4: Jonah Coleman appears to be from the media perspective, that's
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Speaker 4: also part of Scotty Graham's coaching and making sure his
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Speaker 4: running backs understand every nuance of running back play. So
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Speaker 4: for Jonah Coleman to talk about, Hey, I can't get
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Speaker 4: on the field and earn a spot on this roster
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Speaker 4: until I prove myself in past protection, that's that kind
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Speaker 4: of mindset that Scotty put into him. So I think
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Speaker 4: we've got a running back to your point, who's well
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Speaker 4: built for the position, but comes into the league as
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Speaker 4: well coached and as detail orientedly coached from a college
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Speaker 4: perspective as you could possibly be. And I think it
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Speaker 4: showed up in Game one. And then after the game.
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Speaker 4: What was the first thing he said, I haven't accomplished anything.
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Speaker 4: There's still more for me to do. So despite an
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Speaker 4: impressive performance where a lot of rookies want to pat
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Speaker 4: themselves on the back, he's already looking and seeking more well.
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Speaker 3: And you can speak to this better than anybody I
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Speaker 3: know that Sean Payton. One thing that he has, it's
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Speaker 3: a if you want to play running back here, you
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Speaker 3: have to be able to pass pro and Jonah Coleman,
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Speaker 3: really any other running back in the league. That's how
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Speaker 3: it feels to me. Your best years is your rookie contract.
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Speaker 3: That's where they make their most. Hey, that's where the
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Speaker 3: guys produce the most. They don't have a lot of
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Speaker 3: tread on their tires whatever. But the most difficult thing,
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Speaker 3: maybe for running backs entering the league is probably past protection.
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Speaker 3: Isn't it learning how to do that at a high level?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, because you don't want to do it. You're a
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Speaker 4: running back. I don't want to score touchdowns. I want
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Speaker 4: to tote the rock. So this is this thing that you've
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Speaker 4: been asked to do that you don't want to do.
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Speaker 4: So for a defense, this is how defensive blitzes are structured.
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Speaker 4: We're not gonna be able to get a free guy,
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Speaker 4: but we are gonna be able to get Chad Brown
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Speaker 4: or von Miller or TJ. Watt one on one with
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Speaker 4: the running back and guess what we consider that a win. Yes,
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Speaker 4: that's we're gonna win that battle. So Jonah Coleman can
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Speaker 4: reverse the tie to that for this Broncos off If
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Speaker 4: he proves to be as good as his mindset is
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Speaker 4: in the actual doing it on the field, then that
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Speaker 4: changes things for Sean Payton in this offense. Now we've
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Speaker 4: got an extra guy who in pass protection we can
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Speaker 4: count on, and so that's a far different thing. I mean,
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Speaker 4: as much as I love Philip Lindsay as a running back,
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Speaker 4: see you guy, it was clear just from a size standpoint,
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Speaker 4: it's tough. He was never going to be able to
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Speaker 4: do that job. And so while you have the hey,
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you could be great in pass routes, if
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Speaker 4: we're forced to keep you in in pass protection, you
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Speaker 4: can't do the job. Jonah Coleman is physically capable, and
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Speaker 4: it already understands the importance of it going into his
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Speaker 4: rookie year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Darren Sprus is gonna have a tough time picking
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Speaker 3: up a you know, free blitzer somewhere right. Yeah, being
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Speaker 3: five foot.
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Speaker 4: Six, sometimes the football is just pure physics. Yeah, yes, yep,
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Speaker 4: I'm two hundred and forty five pounds your one seventy five.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna run through your face and I might just
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Speaker 4: throw you into the quarterback for fun.
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Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, there's something else from that game that I
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Speaker 3: want to get to in a second and has to
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Speaker 3: over the weekend, they have deemed that bleacher area unsafe,
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Speaker 3: so today's practice is now closed to the public, including us.
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Speaker 3: They're gonna kick us out of here in about forty
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Speaker 3: minutes from right now. We're gonna finish the show, and
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Speaker 3: cane that's gonna rip us off this practice field. Chad
13:07
Speaker 3: Brown filling in for Vic and Moje today. Did you
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Speaker 3: see this, Chad that the Nuggets are gonna play a
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Speaker 3: preseason game in Boulder against the Jazz in October fourth?
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Speaker 4: I did not see that. I like it.
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Speaker 3: I like it too.
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Speaker 4: I like it. I like when teams try to expand
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Speaker 4: their footprint in some way and give fans a unique opportunity.
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Speaker 3: So that is happening on October fourth. On top of that,
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Speaker 3: I just saw this some polymarket hoops that Jokic is
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Speaker 3: leading the entire NBA this decade in points, rebounds, assists,
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Speaker 3: and steals. He is the only player in NBA history
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Speaker 3: to lead a decade in four major categories with playoffs included. Now,
13:46
Speaker 3: the decade's not over yet, but it's hard to imagine
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Speaker 3: Niokich is going to fall off hugely in the next
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Speaker 3: three or four years. It really is remarkable that this
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Speaker 3: guy has existed at that level of play for as
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Speaker 3: long as he has. And on top of that, the
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Speaker 3: Nuggets odd position they find themselves in where they're stuck financially.
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Speaker 3: Still don't know what's happening with Peyton Watson, but I
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Speaker 3: don't know how closely you follow the Nuggets just to
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Speaker 3: read on what they have going into this year, Like,
14:19
Speaker 3: do you think the nugg the Nuggets are still a
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Speaker 3: team that currently constituted can be competitive or do they
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Speaker 3: need more?
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Speaker 4: I think they need more. And so it's basketball that
14:32
Speaker 4: you often say, you know, one player can make such
14:34
Speaker 4: a huge jefs obviously you have the joker. Yeah, the
14:37
Speaker 4: most underrated player maybe in all of professional sports. He's
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Speaker 4: that good and that underrated nationally. Again, I have these
14:46
Speaker 4: conversations when I'm traveling around doing football in various stadums
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Speaker 4: across the country. Yeah, oh, you know what's that about
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Speaker 4: this joker guy. I'm like the fact that you even
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Speaker 4: say it and phrase it like that. You're not showing
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Speaker 4: the man enough respect. I know, But to have a
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Speaker 4: player like that and not be able to put a
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Speaker 4: competitive team or championship competitive team around him. There were
15:07
Speaker 4: years in Seattle where I felt like the Seahawks were
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Speaker 4: stealing from me in my career. It's like, you, really,
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Speaker 4: we're gonna go with Glenn Foley as our quarterback?
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Speaker 3: See, like you weren't capitalizing on I see, yes.
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Speaker 4: I'm in I'm in the prime here and this is
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Speaker 4: only a small window I get to do this. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: and we're gonna go with Glenn Foley? Come on, right, guys.
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Speaker 3: I don't I wonder if Jokic feels this way. And
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Speaker 3: this was what's so weird though, is there is a
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Speaker 3: strong argument to be made. Now. I don't buy into
15:42
Speaker 3: this because I don't think it's going to happen, but
15:45
Speaker 3: for argument's sake, if Aaron Gordon stays healthy and guys
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Speaker 3: don't get hurt, I think the team is like championship
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Speaker 3: level competitive. The problem is he's hurt all the time now, right,
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Speaker 3: and you can't trust it. And it feels like the
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Speaker 3: same common versation I have with JK. Dobbins, which is
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Speaker 3: I love the Broncos rushing game when JK. Dobbins is healthy,
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Speaker 3: but when he's not and you can't trust it. What
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Speaker 3: do you do from there.
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Speaker 4: You can't put your you can't hang your season on
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Speaker 4: people who aren't going to be available. Yeah. Again, that's
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Speaker 4: the core thing in this in professional sports is your availability, right,
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Speaker 4: and so you can be tantalized by their talents, but
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Speaker 4: unless they're available eighty percent of the time, it's not
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Speaker 4: worth it.
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Speaker 3: Well and to take this somewhere else. You know, you
16:32
Speaker 3: look at some positions that the Broncos have here in camp,
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Speaker 3: and one of them that I love is with the
16:37
Speaker 3: addition of Jalen Waddell, what that can do for a
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Speaker 3: guy like Courtland Sutton Cause I looked last year. In fact,
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Speaker 3: they'll look again real quick. Courtland Sutton is I don't
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Speaker 3: know where you'd put him as far as ranking wide
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Speaker 3: receivers in the NFL. He's in the top well, top thirty,
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Speaker 3: top twenty five, maybe hovering around the top twenty somewhere
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Speaker 3: in there. Big body guy, back to back thousand yards seasons.
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Speaker 3: But because they didn't have and not to say the
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Speaker 3: guys like Franklin and Bryant and Mims are like not good.
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Speaker 3: They're good wide receivers, but they aren't feared I think
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Speaker 3: by an opposing defensive coordinator, which means if you want
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Speaker 3: to put all of your attention on Courtland Sutton, you
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Speaker 3: can so in the middle of a season. Last year,
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Speaker 3: he had seventy four catches for one thousand yards and
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Speaker 3: seven touchdowns against Indianapolis. He had one catch for six
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Speaker 3: yards against the Jets. He had one catch for seventeen
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Speaker 3: yards against the Texans. He had one catch for thirty
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Speaker 3: yards against the Chargers one catch for five yards. They
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Speaker 3: were able to focus in hone in on stopping him
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Speaker 3: because the other guys on offense weren't threats. That's gonna
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Speaker 3: change with Jaalen Wattle. Now, that's what I think is
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Speaker 3: gonna open him up because we know this about Courtland Sutton.
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Speaker 3: One on one opportunity, high point of football. Who's beating
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Speaker 3: him on that? And if you get more of those
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Speaker 3: because you have to pay attention to Jaylen Watt, that
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Speaker 3: should just mean more for Courtland this year. Right.
18:04
Speaker 4: There are certain positions on the football team where you
18:06
Speaker 4: just have to have a pair for people to be successful.
18:10
Speaker 4: You've got one great edge rusher and another not so good. Huh,
18:14
Speaker 4: they're gonna double team the great guy. Yeah, you got
18:17
Speaker 4: one receiver and you don't have anyone else that scares people,
18:19
Speaker 4: They're gonna take that guy away. So you have to
18:22
Speaker 4: make life difficult by having at least a pair at
18:25
Speaker 4: certain positions, two competent edge guys rather than one great
18:29
Speaker 4: and one not so good. From a receiver standpoint, you're
18:31
Speaker 4: talking about Jaylen Walla. He brings an explosive element to
18:34
Speaker 4: this offense that's been lacking that can open things up
18:37
Speaker 4: for Courtland sudden. So if people wanted to take him
18:39
Speaker 4: away last year, as evidenced by the statue ran down,
18:42
Speaker 4: they could and it showed up. It's like, what do
18:44
Speaker 4: we do if people take him away? Yeah, now we've
18:47
Speaker 4: got another component out there that you want to double
18:50
Speaker 4: Courtland on third down. Well, now you're gonna have your
18:53
Speaker 4: corner one on one with Jalen. Chances are he's gonna
18:56
Speaker 4: run past him.
18:57
Speaker 3: I'll ask you the question that's been asked to a
18:58
Speaker 3: bunch of people on this station with different results. Who
19:02
Speaker 3: leads the Broncos and catches this year? Is it still Courtland?
19:07
Speaker 4: It should be Courtland? Okay, if you are using both
19:11
Speaker 4: of them properly, it should be Courland. Jaylen Waddles should
19:15
Speaker 4: make plays outside the numbers and the deep part of
19:18
Speaker 4: the field. All that intermedia stuff should be dominated by
19:21
Speaker 4: Courtland because he's a much better contested catch guy. Yeah,
19:24
Speaker 4: Watle gets separation. He's going to be better on the
19:26
Speaker 4: deep balls. But from a contested catch standpoint, the bigger
19:31
Speaker 4: body lends itself to Courtland Sudden being successful in that role.
19:34
Speaker 3: Well, you were talking about pairs, and I just went
19:36
Speaker 3: back and looked at this over the weekend because I
19:38
Speaker 3: was curious. In my adult life, I think the best
19:42
Speaker 3: defensive player I've ever seen is Aaron Donald. For him
19:45
Speaker 3: to get sack production at that level from the interior
19:48
Speaker 3: or defensive line is crazy. Just a dominant force. He
19:52
Speaker 3: had a twenty sax season as a defensive tackle, but
19:55
Speaker 3: it came in the year I don't know if you remember.
19:57
Speaker 3: This might've been towards the tail end of his career,
19:59
Speaker 3: but Dominican Sue was pretty powerful himself. The twenty sex
20:02
Speaker 3: season came when and Donaquan Sue was next to him
20:04
Speaker 3: in the role. Because you've got two guys you had
20:07
Speaker 3: to worry about, two guys that you feared.
20:09
Speaker 4: Sue was past his prime, but he still could push
20:12
Speaker 4: a guard back into your quarterback. So now the Sinner
20:15
Speaker 4: can't just only help on Aaron Donald. Now he's got
20:18
Speaker 4: to pay attention to what kind of block the other
20:20
Speaker 4: guard is getting on Sue, And now it opens up
20:23
Speaker 4: things for Aaron Donald. That's what You need, two of
20:25
Speaker 4: these guys to play off each other to force the
20:28
Speaker 4: other side of the ball to defend both of them.
20:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, do you think Donald's going back?
20:35
Speaker 4: I hope so. I hope so, because now we would
20:39
Speaker 4: have the Rams and the Seahawks battling it out in
20:46
Speaker 4: that division. Most likely on the NFC side.
20:49
Speaker 3: It'd be Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald on the same defensive,
20:52
Speaker 3: which is.
20:53
Speaker 4: Unbelievable, unbelievable, absolutely unbelievable. So I'd love to see things
20:58
Speaker 4: like that. Great to come back and still be an
21:01
Speaker 4: all time because when he left he was play wasn't suffering.
21:04
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, no, here's the well. He retired early and
21:09
Speaker 3: it was one of those you felt like he had
21:13
Speaker 3: three four years left of like still prime, really good
21:16
Speaker 3: football to go to. I know you're a big Seahawks
21:19
Speaker 3: guy again, Top fifty Seahawks of all time. They win
21:23
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl last year, they do it with Sam Donald,
21:26
Speaker 3: and Donald's a very curious case. He is someone that
21:30
Speaker 3: was given up on became a good quarterback again. He
21:35
Speaker 3: goes to Minnesota, he wins fourteen games for him, They
21:39
Speaker 3: let him leave because they want to start JJ McCarthy,
21:42
Speaker 3: which ends up being a gigantic mistake. But do you
21:46
Speaker 3: think that Sam Donald is in a similar category to
21:49
Speaker 3: a Bo Nicks in that I still, even with the
21:53
Speaker 3: Super Bowl for Sam Donald, don't feel like people would
21:56
Speaker 3: have him in like a top ten list. And like
21:59
Speaker 3: Bo Nicks, has done nothing but win here through two years,
22:02
Speaker 3: he has won what's the grand total? Is it like
22:04
Speaker 3: twenty seven games in his first two years, which is
22:08
Speaker 3: I think only one other quarterback has a better record
22:11
Speaker 3: than that. It's weird, but it's like the winning doesn't
22:14
Speaker 3: get the respect. I don't know.
22:16
Speaker 4: I called some of Sam Darnold's games at USC and
22:19
Speaker 4: they would be he would be twenty eight of thirty three,
22:24
Speaker 4: But those five throws, You're like, dude, what are you doing?
22:27
Speaker 4: You are you? How could you be? Such a contrast
22:31
Speaker 4: between those on target great twenty eight throws and those
22:34
Speaker 4: five bad ones? And that I referenced earlier in the
22:37
Speaker 4: show that Thursday Night game last season between the Seahawks
22:40
Speaker 4: and the Rams, and I was in a Seahawks suite
22:45
Speaker 4: and there were Seahawks people saying, Oh no, here we
22:48
Speaker 4: go again, because Sam had a couple of interceptions in
22:51
Speaker 4: that game. So that seems to be the thing that's
22:53
Speaker 4: plaguing him going back to college even now on the
22:56
Speaker 4: Super Bowl winning team. That's his bugaboo. I'm sure if
23:00
Speaker 4: bow Knicks has a particular buggaboo. He may not be
23:05
Speaker 4: as high of a ceiling when Sam is good, yes,
23:08
Speaker 4: but he doesn't have as low as the floor when
23:11
Speaker 4: Sam is bad.
23:12
Speaker 3: That is true because bow doesn't really he doesn't make
23:17
Speaker 3: the mistakes that crush you. He doesn't turn the ball
23:20
Speaker 3: over a lot. He really doesn't. But it's I always
23:24
Speaker 3: go back to, it's the consistency factor. If I can
23:27
Speaker 3: get bow Knick's fourth quarter sprinkled in the first and
23:31
Speaker 3: second and third quarter, I think you're talking about a
23:33
Speaker 3: completely different animal here. Like I think it's going to
23:36
Speaker 3: be almost impossible for the Broncos to reach fourteen wins
23:38
Speaker 3: again because it's really hard to win fourteen games, right.
23:41
Speaker 3: They might be the same level of team as they
23:43
Speaker 3: were last year with eleven wins instead of fourteen you know,
23:47
Speaker 3: tougher schedule here. But that's part of the discussion with
23:51
Speaker 3: the Broncos this year is those first six weeks are
23:54
Speaker 3: incredibly difficult. They've been slow starters. If they have a
23:59
Speaker 3: slow start in this conference, you might be looking at
24:03
Speaker 3: wild card positioning and being like, well, who's gonna fit.
24:07
Speaker 3: Think about who missed last year burrowing the Bengals, Mahomes
24:10
Speaker 3: and the Chiefs, Lamar Jackson and the Ravens help. The
24:14
Speaker 3: Colts looked like they were an absolute playoff team until
24:18
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones got hurt. Well, somebody's gonna have to move
24:21
Speaker 3: in and out. And if you have a slow start,
24:23
Speaker 3: you're putting yourself kind of in that position. And I
24:25
Speaker 3: think it has to do with the offense clicking early
24:28
Speaker 3: in the year.
24:29
Speaker 4: I'll go even a step further. This week is going
24:32
Speaker 4: to be critical. The mindset of a team that lost
24:39
Speaker 4: in the championship game or lost in the Super Bowl.
24:42
Speaker 4: They always want to fast forward and get back to
24:44
Speaker 4: where they lost. They don't want to go through the
24:46
Speaker 4: grind of the season and earn their way back. Right. Well,
24:49
Speaker 4: now you had to taste of success on Friday, and
24:52
Speaker 4: now everyone's saying, oh, look, look, at the Broncos look
24:55
Speaker 4: at their back. Yeah. So as much as Sean Payton
24:58
Speaker 4: has had to beat last year out of them, what's
25:01
Speaker 4: going to come into their heads now? Because they interest
25:03
Speaker 4: had success and things are all on the right track
25:05
Speaker 4: and it looked easy, we're running it back with the
25:08
Speaker 4: same guys and so they've got to avoid that clear
25:13
Speaker 4: pitfall that happens to teams in this position.
25:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:16
Speaker 4: So, yes, the first six games are going to be tough,
25:19
Speaker 4: but I think that's actually to their benefits. They can
25:21
Speaker 4: be humbled a bit, but I think they need to
25:23
Speaker 4: be humbled after this one, sure, because if you go
25:25
Speaker 4: out and lay an egg on Friday night against Green Bay,
25:30
Speaker 4: well then now what's the mindset? Are you as confident
25:33
Speaker 4: as you once were? What happens to this week in practice?
25:37
Speaker 4: Do you take this week and patch yourself on the
25:39
Speaker 4: back or do you keep your nose to the grindstone
25:41
Speaker 4: like a true championship team does.
25:43
Speaker 3: Here's what else is interesting is that the Broncos looked
25:48
Speaker 3: really good on Friday. God did the Falcons look bad.
25:53
Speaker 3: They looked really bad. And I don't know what you
25:56
Speaker 3: do with that quarterback spot. I don't know what Tua
25:59
Speaker 3: is did you see the quote from Michael Pennix last
26:03
Speaker 3: week where he and I got to pull it up again?
26:08
Speaker 3: His doctor told him, this is an amazing acl You
26:12
Speaker 3: should never have any more knee problems for the rest
26:15
Speaker 3: of your career. Now, that's somebody who's missed. He's had
26:18
Speaker 3: five season ending surgeries going back to college, three of
26:22
Speaker 3: them on his knees. I hope that's the case, because
26:24
Speaker 3: he's fun to watch when he's healthy. But between that
26:26
Speaker 3: intu it's like, what do you even do with that?
26:30
Speaker 3: You want to talk about trust and availability. I mean, Chad,
26:33
Speaker 3: neither of those guys haven't.
26:35
Speaker 4: Neither imagine being Bjohn Robinson Like, Okay, I'm in the
26:40
Speaker 4: prime of my career. I'm potentially the best running back,
26:43
Speaker 4: maybe one of the best offensive players in the league,
26:46
Speaker 4: and I gotta deal with these two guys.
26:47
Speaker 3: Is he who is the quarterback you're talking about? Fully, Glenn?
26:50
Speaker 3: Is he there, Glenn Foley?
26:52
Speaker 4: Yes, they're looking at these guys like, come on, come on, yeah,
26:56
Speaker 4: because two, obviously is it going to be incredibly afraid
26:59
Speaker 4: to take a hit. He's not gonna be comfortable stepping
27:01
Speaker 4: up in the pocket. That's gonna be cool And Michael Pennix,
27:06
Speaker 4: who can't prove to be healthy. I know, and again,
27:08
Speaker 4: as an NFL quarterback, it's more than just again playing
27:11
Speaker 4: on Sunday. You gotta play every single Sunday, and he's
27:15
Speaker 4: never shown that ability to do that. So, yes, the
27:18
Speaker 4: Falcons are a bad football team. They got some talent,
27:21
Speaker 4: they got a nice tight end, they got a great
27:23
Speaker 4: running back on the best in the league. There's some
27:24
Speaker 4: talent on other side of the ball too, but there's
27:26
Speaker 4: not enough there where the Broncos should take the results
27:30
Speaker 4: of Friday night and think that means that they just
27:33
Speaker 4: got an easy path. Oh of course the rest of
27:35
Speaker 4: the season.
27:36
Speaker 3: And the nice thing is like, you know what's crazy, Chad,
27:38
Speaker 3: And I don't know how many of your sort of
27:41
Speaker 3: training camps that you were in on this where there
27:44
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like there's a position battle here, Like the
27:49
Speaker 3: starting twenty two feels pretty set even if you tried
27:53
Speaker 3: to think what there's a little conversation of Ben Powers
27:57
Speaker 3: and Powchwski at left guard maybe, but a lot of
28:01
Speaker 3: this is just filling in your backups and special teams
28:03
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, Like we had years here whereas
28:06
Speaker 3: who's going to start a quarterback, that's not a question anymore.
28:09
Speaker 3: Your wide receivers. You're like, well it's Sutton and Wadel.
28:12
Speaker 3: I don't even know where the battles would be.
28:16
Speaker 4: I think there'll be a battle for playing time, maybe
28:18
Speaker 4: not starting running back in the running back room. Yeah,
28:22
Speaker 4: I think we could use a fresh look at the
28:26
Speaker 4: tight end room.
28:27
Speaker 3: I know if there's if there was something that was
28:29
Speaker 3: disappointing from that first game, I think it was that, right,
28:33
Speaker 3: you want to see some sort of tight end emerge,
28:35
Speaker 3: and we had Evan Ingram over here, who was obviously
28:37
Speaker 3: somebody that that's had a lot of success in this league.
28:40
Speaker 3: I think within this new offense could be very productive.
28:44
Speaker 3: But it's like they have eight guys stacked there. I
28:46
Speaker 3: want to see somebody pop.
28:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't do enough in my position. In my thoughts,
28:51
Speaker 4: this austen to upgrade solidify. Yeah, that's different than upgrade. Yes,
28:56
Speaker 4: so it's solid but you can only have so much
29:01
Speaker 4: on a team unless you hit home runs in the
29:04
Speaker 4: draft all the time. Yeah, because the Sowary cap obviously
29:06
Speaker 4: has implications, and when certain guys need to be resigned,
29:10
Speaker 4: certain guys need big money, you go out and free
29:12
Speaker 4: in say you get a guy like Jay and Walden,
29:13
Speaker 4: and it's not the year to go out and also
29:15
Speaker 4: rebuild a tight end room at the same time.
29:17
Speaker 3: Do you do you think for for positions like tight
29:21
Speaker 3: end that are I mean, they're incredibly important in the NFL. Now,
29:25
Speaker 3: you know, I've always said Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes.
29:28
Speaker 3: One of the reasons why I think the Chiefs offense
29:30
Speaker 3: hasn't been the same over the last few years is
29:33
Speaker 3: that Travis Kelsey got older, like you just can't can't
29:35
Speaker 3: move like he used to. Tom Brady. For all the
29:38
Speaker 3: great receivers in you know, Patriots, lower, Ammon Dola and
29:42
Speaker 3: Julian Edelman, all these guys like Gronk was the guy.
29:45
Speaker 3: He was the one that made the offense go. Do
29:49
Speaker 3: you think the lack of use maybe last last year
29:52
Speaker 3: was schematic or was that bo Nick's not looking for
29:57
Speaker 3: or what are you?
30:00
Speaker 4: I would go schematic, but I would also go skill set.
30:03
Speaker 4: Think about what the Rams, the Seahawks and the forty
30:08
Speaker 4: nine ers did last year with the tight end position. Yeah,
30:11
Speaker 4: put multiple tight ends on the field, force defenses to
30:15
Speaker 4: choose between base or nickel, and then made them wrong
30:19
Speaker 4: over and over and over. We got two tight ends
30:21
Speaker 4: in the field, you go base, We'll throw the ball.
30:23
Speaker 4: We got two tight ends or three tight ends in
30:25
Speaker 4: the field, and you want to go nickel, Well, guess what,
30:27
Speaker 4: We're gonna run it down your throat. Defensively, you can't
30:30
Speaker 4: be right. And the Broncos don't have a tight end
30:34
Speaker 4: room that is built to utilize this new multi tight
30:38
Speaker 4: end offense that Sean McVay is really going to probably
30:41
Speaker 4: make in vogue around the league, because defenses have no
30:44
Speaker 4: answer for that. Not only do you not have an
30:46
Speaker 4: answer schematically, but you don't have an answer personnel wise. Now,
30:50
Speaker 4: the Seahawks have Nick Emgnori, the great safety slash linebacker,
30:55
Speaker 4: but they only got one. There's not a ton of
30:57
Speaker 4: those guys in the league. So that's how how you
31:00
Speaker 4: begin to bend defenses with things that are unanswerable. The
31:05
Speaker 4: tight ends in this offense don't allow the Broncos to
31:10
Speaker 4: do that to defenses.
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Speaker 3: words I never thought i'd hear from Lebron James. Welcome
32:08
Speaker 3: to my YouTube channel. Did you see that he is
32:12
Speaker 3: doing a YouTube golf channel now after he's picked up
32:16
Speaker 3: the sport of golf.
32:17
Speaker 4: I did not see this, but looking at the photo,
32:20
Speaker 4: I'm not surprised to see j R. Smith there.
32:23
Speaker 3: J R. Smith, So I think this is just one video,
32:26
Speaker 3: but this JR. Smith, Tristan Thompson, Channing Fry Richard Jefferson
32:31
Speaker 3: and Kevin Love. It looks like I just never in
32:35
Speaker 3: my life thought the Lebron James would have a YouTube channel.
32:38
Speaker 4: I like it. I'm a fan of athletes taking advantage
32:43
Speaker 4: of this new media landscape. Yeah, and creating something that
32:48
Speaker 4: is theirs. Manning productions, Omaha Productions. Oh sure, Lebron James
32:55
Speaker 4: has the similar opportunity in the basketball space to be
33:00
Speaker 4: the former athlete who dominates that that space, just as
33:04
Speaker 4: Peyton does in the football space.
33:05
Speaker 3: Well, he's got so many different things he has. I
33:08
Speaker 3: think they have a media company, doesn't. He's got a game,
33:11
Speaker 3: armer shop, show movies, Yeah, space jam and what was
33:16
Speaker 3: the movie with Bill Hayter and Amy Schumer train Wreck?
33:20
Speaker 4: Train Wreck?
33:20
Speaker 3: Yes, is in that movie. It's actually not bad, to
33:23
Speaker 3: be honest, I saw that movie. I was like, I
33:25
Speaker 3: thought it'd be way worse. Yeah, he really wasn't welcome
33:29
Speaker 3: to the YouTube channel. It's just the funniest thing after though,
33:32
Speaker 3: because he I like a lot of these YouTube golf channels.
33:35
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've seen any of these. He
33:37
Speaker 3: was a guest on one of them, and you could
33:40
Speaker 3: just tell it. It's like, Oh, he loves this doesn't
33:42
Speaker 3: he he I don't know what it is about golf
33:44
Speaker 3: when he picked it up, but he like has not
33:45
Speaker 3: stopped since. I know his son is really good at golf,
33:49
Speaker 3: really good golfer. I am.
33:51
Speaker 4: I'm not.
33:52
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not great, but I golf.
33:55
Speaker 4: I play like a celebrity tournament a couple times a year.
33:58
Speaker 3: Yeah.
33:59
Speaker 4: But I do not go and say, oh my goodness,
34:02
Speaker 4: I got a day off. Let me run over to
34:03
Speaker 4: the course, yeah, or you know it's a beautiful day,
34:07
Speaker 4: let me hit the That's not who I am at all.
34:11
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is that what guys do? I've
34:15
Speaker 3: always wandered this. When your football career is done, you're
34:19
Speaker 3: just talking about you did coaching internships, you did all
34:22
Speaker 3: these different things. What is it like for you? How
34:25
Speaker 3: many years in the league fifteen, first year afterwards were
34:30
Speaker 3: you just like, I don't know what my day is now,
34:33
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do. What was that?
34:37
Speaker 4: I dove headfirst into my reptile breeding company at that time,
34:41
Speaker 4: so that gave me something to do. I wasn't just
34:43
Speaker 4: trying to figure out where my next tea time was
34:45
Speaker 4: going to be. I had a place to go every day.
34:47
Speaker 3: But you had that sort of building through your career, right, Yeah, And.
34:51
Speaker 4: So I thought I was as well prepared as I
34:55
Speaker 4: could have been emotionally structure wise to transition. And I
35:00
Speaker 4: still had very difficult days, sure, and dark days, and yeah,
35:07
Speaker 4: a little bit of maybe we even say depression. I
35:10
Speaker 4: did this thing for so long. I started playing tackle
35:12
Speaker 4: football when I was nine. I started playing football when
35:15
Speaker 4: I was six. I played till I was thirty eight
35:17
Speaker 4: years old. So what am I supposed to do? Now?
35:19
Speaker 4: What's how's my day supposed to be structured? I do
35:22
Speaker 4: something football every single day? Now I don't. What's you know?
35:30
Speaker 4: I would get mad at my staff at the Reptile
35:33
Speaker 4: Company because they weren't obsessed with repil breeding like I
35:36
Speaker 4: was obsessed with football. My expectations were just all out
35:40
Speaker 4: of whack. So I had to recalibrate literally everything in
35:43
Speaker 4: my life. What does a good payday look like? Obviously
35:46
Speaker 4: I had to recalibrate that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because I'm
35:48
Speaker 4: sitting here doing a three hours show with you, things
35:52
Speaker 4: are going to be very different than the NFL paychecks.
35:54
Speaker 3: That's money. Nobody told me.
35:57
Speaker 4: I love the attitude rating media family, but you guys
36:00
Speaker 4: do not pay like the NFL does. So from pay
36:04
Speaker 4: to schedule to passion to emotional investment, everything is different.
36:10
Speaker 4: And then always having this clock in your head this
36:14
Speaker 4: time of year. Sure, still the clock still starts ticking
36:18
Speaker 4: that I'm supposed to now be aggressive. I'm supposed to
36:20
Speaker 4: now be meaner than I was just a month ago.
36:23
Speaker 4: Because it's football time. All that's done.
36:27
Speaker 3: You wouldn't play special teams in the Altitude media family
36:31
Speaker 3: at thirty.
36:31
Speaker 4: Seven, I would not. I did it for Bill Belichick.
36:36
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do it for Alpha Zudo.
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Speaker 3: You know what's funny. I can't remember who the punt
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Speaker 3: returner was, but there was some guy who most of
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Speaker 3: his career he was just a return guy, did a
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Speaker 3: little bit of wide receiver on the side. I can't
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Speaker 3: remember who it was, but he said, every time I
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Speaker 3: line up for a punt return, I say to myself,
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Speaker 3: I don't care if I live or die.
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Speaker 4: He said.
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Speaker 3: I said that every time I went out to catch
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Speaker 3: a punt, because that has to be well, one of
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Speaker 3: the most horrifying things that you could hear is you're
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Speaker 3: looking up in the sky at this ball falling down,
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Speaker 3: knowing you got to catch it, and you just hear
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Speaker 3: the thumping of two hundred and fifty pounds feet coming
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Speaker 3: your way, because you've seen the ones like didn't I
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Speaker 3: think Darren Sproules got his leg busted in half off
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Speaker 3: of a punt return hit.
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Speaker 4: I think I'm pretty sure you are correct.
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Speaker 3: Special teamers are crazy nuts. Would it be better now?
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Speaker 3: Do you think if you did special teams now? Because
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Speaker 3: at that time you're running full speed downfield. Now you
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Speaker 3: get the five yards of separation or whatever? Is that
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Speaker 3: easier to stomach? You think now? As a special teamer?
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Speaker 4: I think it would be more into my skill set
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Speaker 4: at that particular age to run that short distance and
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Speaker 4: be able to get my hands on somebody throw them
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Speaker 4: down trying to make a tackle. Yeah, as opposed to
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Speaker 4: being able to maneuver at that speed. Because I could
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Speaker 4: still run fast at thirty seven years old, I just
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Speaker 4: couldn't change direction to stop very well. Right, So that
37:55
Speaker 4: went away the the craziness of special teams and craziness
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Speaker 4: of football. I would say, as the pregame was going
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Speaker 4: down and we would get together with that last huddle
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Speaker 4: with my linebacker group every game, I would say, I'm
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Speaker 4: willing to die for this? Are you? And That was
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Speaker 4: my gut check to my linebacker teammates. And it sounds
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Speaker 4: crazy when you pull the scope back, but in that moment,
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Speaker 4: I meant it. I'm going to put my body in
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Speaker 4: a position where i could die. But I love you
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Speaker 4: guys so much, and I love this crazy game so much.
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Speaker 4: This is what I'm willing to do. Are you willing
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Speaker 4: to die for me? Too? And that was how I
38:44
Speaker 4: checked my teammates' readiness to play.
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Speaker 3: If one of them was like, no, not really, well.
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Speaker 4: We would talk about it during the week. I think
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Speaker 4: of myself as a cerebral guy, and I recognize that
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Speaker 4: the chad that crossed the stripes is a different chad
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Speaker 4: that walks around in life. So yes, given lower emotion
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Speaker 4: and not a game day, ah man, I'm not willing
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Speaker 4: to die for This is crazy.
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Speaker 3: So you Jess a very basic question, because we're out
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Speaker 3: here at camp or she guys getting warmed up. Do
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Speaker 3: you think that the the training camps today get you
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Speaker 3: well enough prepared for the season or do you think
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Speaker 3: back in your day where it was hitting, tackling all
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Speaker 3: that stuff that did more for you. Should there be
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Speaker 3: a better mix?
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Speaker 4: I suppose I can't honestly give a true evaluation because
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Speaker 4: I've never had this kind of training camp. Yeah, but
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Speaker 4: I would have to say I needed the tough skin
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Speaker 4: that came from tackling and playing in the preseason. I
39:43
Speaker 4: needed that. Speaking for me, yeah, I had some teammates
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Speaker 4: who I marveled at their ability. Walter Jones, great offensive
39:50
Speaker 4: tackle with the Seahawks in the Hall of Fame, Walter
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Speaker 4: held out I think half of his training camps. He
39:55
Speaker 4: would show up like on Wednesday of week one because
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Speaker 4: his CONTRAC sign and then go out together, go out
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Speaker 4: there and put together a Hall of Fame or All
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Speaker 4: Pro season. Yeah, I couldn't do that. I needed all
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Speaker 4: this stuff to be prepared. So I'm not sure how
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Speaker 4: these guys. How can you train yourself to tackle another
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Speaker 4: human being as a linebacker twelve maybe fifteen times a
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Speaker 4: game and also keep yourself safe while doing that without
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Speaker 4: having done that until it's full speed.
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Speaker 3: So I remember this was the hacket year and we
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Speaker 3: were watching practice and they had like they didn't even
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Speaker 3: thud during Hacketts camp. And it was the first episode
40:36
Speaker 3: of Hard Knocks. I still remember this. It was The
40:39
Speaker 3: Lion's Hard Knocks and the opening sequence to it was
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Speaker 3: like five brutal hits from that they tackle bring to
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Speaker 3: the ground hits, And I was like, that's happening at
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Speaker 3: a camp. And I remember Campbell said something in the
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Speaker 3: middle of that first episode. He goes, how are we
40:57
Speaker 3: going to practice tackling if we don't tackle? Well, that
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Speaker 3: seems like a pretty basic way to look at it.
41:02
Speaker 3: But at the same time you look at the Rams.
41:05
Speaker 3: The Rams don't do it like really anything, especially preseason wise.
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Speaker 3: They don't play starters, they give them no snaps, and
41:11
Speaker 3: they're pretty good too. I don't know. I don't know
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Speaker 3: which approach is the appropriate one, but it's always interesting
41:19
Speaker 3: to see the differences between like this camp or another
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Speaker 3: camp around the league. And I don't know, just from
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Speaker 3: your perspective, if you thought there was a better or
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Speaker 3: worse way of doing it.
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Speaker 4: Now there were teams who practiced similar to this style.
41:30
Speaker 4: When I was in the league, we would practice every
41:32
Speaker 4: year against the Buffalo Bills. We would travel up to
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Speaker 4: Edinburgh and practice against them as a Pittsburgh Steeler, and
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Speaker 4: we did full speed tackling. They did not. We conditioned
41:40
Speaker 4: after practice, they did not. Yet they went to four
41:43
Speaker 4: Super Bowls. Yeah, and so there's lots of ways to
41:46
Speaker 4: skin the cat. But again, specifically for me, I had
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Speaker 4: to tackle in the preseason in order to tackle well
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Speaker 4: during the season, pride in myself and not missing tackles,
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Speaker 4: and I always was deathly afraid if I not get
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Speaker 4: enough preseason working, I was going to miss tackles the
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Speaker 4: first couple of weeks of the season.
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Speaker 3: There is Look, I have no comparison to this, but
42:06
Speaker 3: but baseball wise, it would be like to me, you
42:10
Speaker 3: could hit in a cage all winner, but you need
42:13
Speaker 3: to see some sort of live pitching because it's different.
42:15
Speaker 3: You need you need to have the feel of, like
42:18
Speaker 3: I'm down one to an account, what am I gonna
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Speaker 3: do with this pitch? I think it's tackling like the
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Speaker 3: same way. I think you have to do at least
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Speaker 3: a little bit of it.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you've seen him tackle the big giant padded
42:27
Speaker 4: hula hoops. Yeah, for a while, teams were having the
42:31
Speaker 4: tackling dummy that was like a robot, did you see. Yes,
42:34
Speaker 4: those seem not to be gone, but that was the
42:36
Speaker 4: thing for a couple of years. So teams have tried
42:37
Speaker 4: to come up with ways to do it. But I
42:39
Speaker 4: think the only way to do it is to tackle
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Speaker 4: another human being. Yeah, put your face on somebody, bring
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Speaker 4: them to the ground, get up, make sure you're safe,
42:46
Speaker 4: and then figure out the next time how to do
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Speaker 4: it better while still keeping yourself safe, because that's also
42:52
Speaker 4: part of the skill set. If you make you make
42:54
Speaker 4: a tackle and you got to leave the game, well
42:56
Speaker 4: now you can't help.
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Speaker 3: Us exactly protect yourself too. Yeah. Chack brown in for
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Speaker 5: So we've been giving this clip a lot of run.
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Speaker 5: The clip of Sean Payton during a halftime interview of
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Speaker 5: the preseason game on Friday, and he had to take
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Speaker 5: a shot at his old rivals.
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Speaker 3: Coach, thank you. We know you win here in Atlanta
43:28
Speaker 3: and looks like you're going to continue.
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Speaker 4: That straight dressed up his empty seats today.
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Speaker 3: So anyway, thanks coach.
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Speaker 5: So just got to come just out of curiosity, I
43:36
Speaker 5: looked up Sean Payton's record against the Falcons and when
43:40
Speaker 5: he was the Saints head coach in fifteen seasons, he
43:43
Speaker 5: went twenty one and nine against the Falcons, and then
43:48
Speaker 5: bo Nicks's first season, the Broncos beat the breaks off
43:51
Speaker 5: the Falcons in Denver in twenty twenty four. So now
43:54
Speaker 5: for that twenty two to nine over the Falcons, I
43:56
Speaker 5: think he's earned some smack talk rights.
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Speaker 3: Sure, and even if he didn't, it doesn't matter. He
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Speaker 3: would do it anyway. Shot Bayton, if you can take
44:06
Speaker 3: a shot, he's gonna Chad appreciate it today. He'll be
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Speaker 3: back tomorrow right in this same seat as again. One
44:13
Speaker 3: last reminder, if you guys got tickets to practice today,
44:15
Speaker 3: they have closed that to the public due to weather.
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Speaker 3: They think the bleachers have some wonkiness to them, so
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Speaker 3: no fans, no media today. Will be back out here tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: Have a wonderful Monday. We love you, see you