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Bear & Balanced: Bears v Dolphins Recap · 2nd City Gridiron

0:08
[SPEAKER_01]: welcome to bear a balance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Jeff Burke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on the other side of the screen, less wait a minute, not less.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got Taylor doll with us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Taylor, how are you doing today?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been, yeah, camp doing camp for the jags and then also just kind of getting the flow of everything.
0:24
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so much newness on both teams.
0:25
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a pretty busy last month, but it's been good.
0:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, for all of you that are wondering, Lester, like a very smart and savvy veteran, is trying to take care of himself and not practice.
0:39
[SPEAKER_01]: During the preseason, as much as possible, gets close to the real live action before he gets on the mic.
0:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's not feeling well enough to do this, so Taylor was nice enough to step in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're gonna go through the Bernstein Alphan's preseason game.
0:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, before we get into our categories, just kind of up top, anything that struck you about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: football back on your TV.
1:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it starters not being out there takes a little bit of it.
1:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know a lot of people had different thoughts on that, whether they liked it or didn't like it.
1:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to say I'll trust Ben Johnson from what we are hearing.
1:14
[SPEAKER_00]: The joint practice with Miami was super physical.
1:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We heard that we saw the Miami people posting about that and it seems like that's kind of the reason.
1:23
[SPEAKER_00]: He pushed, you know, the starters got what he felt like.
1:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing enough reps through that joint practice where he felt comfortable kind of being able to just see the backup.
1:31
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do think that's one of the bigger takeaways because this team and the last few years, when somebody goes down, things spiral out of control because the depth has it really been there, especially in the trenches.
1:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was nice.
1:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I think to see some of those things kind of work well, or at least for a preseason game one, work well.
1:50
[SPEAKER_00]: yesterday and so that was kind of by main takeaway is that I feel like there's some depth pieces there now that we can actually work from and that the coaching of Ben Johnson and Dennis Allen is kind of bringing out what seems like some good things out of some of these guys that we've been wanted to see for the last year or two.
2:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you have to trust in the new staff until they betray that trust or you know what what have you but this is the way they wanted to run it they didn't see the value of running most of the starters out there and in the preseason game one.
2:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's fine with me.
2:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that you've got the bills game coming up.
2:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you're going to see the starters, and I would assume quite a bit here.
2:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But physical, heavy practice, you made mention to the Dolphins Beatwriters.
2:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a kick out of one particular beatwriter, kind of complaining a lot on social media and a lot of bears fans kind of taking exception to that and making some jokes.
2:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I had a little bit of fun with that as well.
2:45
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're on Twitter, you probably saw some of that stuff, but it was pretty funny.
2:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I think overall, it's just, it's like preseason football, it matters, but it doesn't matter.
2:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still really hot out, but it's just this like warning sign.
3:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like get all of your summer projects done because you're about to be busy for the next five months of your life, right?
3:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's how I feel about it.
3:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy when it comes on, but it's also like, oh, man, I didn't get nearly everything done that I needed to.
3:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So the next few weeks is going to be a bit of a scramble for me.
3:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But let's get into the categories here.
3:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's start off as we always do in the trenches with our trench tribute, who on the lines stuck out, a very obvious one for us to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the trenches, I think it's interesting because obviously we didn't see any of those main guys out there that we're expecting so that drop off behind is what we are going to be questioning because like I said a second ago, Jeff, one of the biggest issues the last couple years here has been guys staying healthy on the offensive line and then the moment someone gets hurt, you just feel like everything collapses and they don't really have an answer behind that.
3:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I do think there were some positive things to take out of this.
3:58
[SPEAKER_00]: There's worries, there's worries with Brexton Jones.
4:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what a lot of this focus the next month is going to be of who's your left tackle because there were a few moments yesterday and one went viral of him just kind of not even attempting to block it kind of looked like.
4:14
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be a thing, but it was interesting too because what we've heard the whole time is that competition between Brexton Jones and Ozzy
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[SPEAKER_00]: is kind of what people have been talking about, but then Aussie wasn't really out there much at all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we didn't really get to see him a whole lot at that left tackle spot at all.
4:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But to me, I think that's where all the eyes are right now is what is going to happen with the left tackle because everything else is solidified.
4:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think on offensive line, I certainly wasn't going to give up my trench tribute on the offensive line because for my watch of it, it was a bit of a mess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a lot of pressure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's hard because you're swapping guys in and out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's the preseason for scaming the preseason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of these guys are going to be practice squad guys.
4:56
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of these guys probably aren't going to even make the practice squad.
4:59
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's really hard to have any kind of continuity.
5:02
[SPEAKER_01]: between an offensive line where you're constantly shuffling guys around.
5:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you try to maybe isolate one player, particularly if they're on like an isolated rep.
5:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And even then, still, you know, someone who played offensive line who was tried to study offensive line, there's plenty of times that I get stuff wrong, right?
5:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Or I'm like, man, that guy blew that block.
5:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, for this protection on this play, he's actually fanning out and that he's letting that guy in because that's the guards responsibility, you know, what have you, right?
5:31
[SPEAKER_01]: There's sometimes there's an explanation for why things happen, but yes, there were some, I think some things that we could get into about Braxton Jones a little later on in the show that were to be worried about, but in terms of the tribute for me, the obvious one, and I'll just take it is that we got to talk about Austin Booker.
5:52
[SPEAKER_01]: his three sax yesterday led the team obviously, but there were six overall the defensive line.
5:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought looked pretty good for the bears.
6:01
[SPEAKER_01]: They got a lot of pressures and they got home.
6:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Now some of that is just that you're facing, you know, backup and third string quarterbacks, but again, preseason you're going against guys that you should be able to
6:14
[SPEAKER_01]: compete with and awesome booker who is a guy that wants to get into that mix as the E three and hopefully the E three on some you know specialized past rushing downs.
6:25
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked good like he looked quick off the ball.
6:29
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like a guy that definitely has that speed rush element to his game and his goal I think in this office is he was to add a counter move.
6:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But at least yesterday that speed move was on display.
6:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was really fun to watch Austin Booker and we did, we kind of saw this last year in preseason and then you didn't see much during the season.
6:48
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hoping now you have a year under your belt and that is you're just growing from that because I do think that when you're talking about it Austin Booker, the main issue is anytime, like the coverage side of things.
7:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to definitely find the areas where you want to use him and
7:04
[SPEAKER_00]: The past rush is there he's he's quick and he's fast and you saw that really shiny yesterday.
7:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do think that is a positive thing that the past rush that those edge rushers have been a concern.
7:14
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it for a lot of people still is just because you kind of felt like you a lot of people wanted them to go make some big splash.
7:22
[SPEAKER_00]: play, you know, move when it came to getting another guy across from Montesswe, and so instead you get a guy, you know, diodango, obviously coming in and adding a little what he adds, what does that look like across from sweat, but you definitely want the depth in that and multiple guys to be able to get sacks, you don't want it to constantly just feel like it's the same
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[SPEAKER_00]: one, two, three guys that are getting to the quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it does feel like we're seeing some good stuff out of Austin Booker.
7:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do hope that continues because in the same light, we saw some from Dominic Robinson, too.
7:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's somebody that I really would love like you obviously want these guys to succeed at somebody that I did a making monsters on his first season because early on in that year, he was showing flashes and it felt like it just kind of fell off.
8:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So to get this now with
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[SPEAKER_00]: If those two kind of started adding something to that address in a room, I think it'd be really fun to watch.
8:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And it also obviously gives some points for Ryan Polls for the people that have it loved everything he's done.
8:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, and bookers, a guy that came out probably a year early, you know, he moved to Kansas as a transfer and probably needed to have one more year in college, but he decided to come out.
8:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's really developing as a pro and then you've got the regime change, got Dennis Allen coming in, who likes bigger defensive ends.
8:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, he's trying to, you know, bulk up a little bit, he's trying to learn how to do that.
8:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, again, he can be exposed a bit when it comes to trying to defend the run.
8:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of like in baseball, you know, we've talked about this on this show before, but if you have a picture, this got a really good fastball.
8:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
8:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But what else can he throw to the hitters to keep those batters off balance, right?
9:00
[SPEAKER_01]: If you only have a fastball, then those hitters are just going to sit on the fastball and they're going to time it up.
9:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And so if that's all the move that you have, it's going to be pretty easy to block you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you develop those counter moves, if you develop a good change up or a curveball or whatever,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, then it becomes harder because they have to respect a counter move.
9:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's what I'm really looking for out of booker if he can get more reps against the ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to have to show something other than the speed rush.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it's a really good move to build off of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's good to see that flash again.
9:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's move up into the the stand of the week caught up in a numbers game.
9:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got kind of a goofy trivia type thing because it's tough to pull from stats, but did you come up with any number that you thought was interesting?
9:46
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's two that actually stuck out with me, stuck out to me that I saw.
9:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is somebody that I want to highlight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, I've went and shared the making monsters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did on him too, but Kyle Monogue, I think that it's going to be really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So far it looks like he's somebody, he has that patience, but he was also kind of right.
10:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And he would run some people over.
10:04
[SPEAKER_00]: There was just the vision that you saw for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think was really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he had six carries obviously for that thirty yards, but nineteen
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[SPEAKER_00]: of those came after contact.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's something that you like to see because that, you know, when it comes to a deandry swift, he's not so much that guy.
10:20
[SPEAKER_00]: When there's green, he's gone, but you want to be able to have a back that can kind of run people over.
10:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's been what we were hoping, Rochon Johnson would be.
10:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
10:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously hasn't worked out the way that a lot of people would have worn it with Rojo.
10:32
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what that looks like this year.
10:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It seemed like it positive things happened on goal line situations within last year when they actually did that.
10:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But it looks like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: when I could be somebody who can kind of bring this run game back to what we feel like it should have been the last couple seasons.
10:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think with Ben Johnson being like kind of in control of that, it's really beneficial.
10:54
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, there's nineteen yard after contact on just thirty yards kind of stuck out to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He also had five yards per carry.
11:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a good thing to say.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then going back to the offensive line, I actually saw a stat earlier too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of the rookie offensive lineman with twenty-platt with twenty-plus pass protection snaps and zero pressures allowed look newman was the second and that group and so he had thirty-two pass rush snaps and then allow a single pressure on that so that's one of the guys obviously that the bear's drafted this year so that was something that stuck out to me too because I'm not sure how much people noticed he was out there and how well he was actually doing when he was
11:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good for a center to not be noticed.
11:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a general, but like certainly a center, right?
11:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just generally you're you're noticing them because they're they're getting pushed back in the backfield really fast, but yeah, definitely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wanted to make sure we talked about him at some point good on the on the carries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we can talk a little bit about
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, his past perspective later, which at which I think will be interesting to see because you know that's what limits a young running back from getting into the lineup is that, you know, can they pick up past protection and can they be an asset out of the backfield in the passing game as well.
12:02
[SPEAKER_01]: My stat or my number is the number forty two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the number of ties that the Chicago Bears franchise has had in their complete history, just regular season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I have no way to find out preseason.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what I thought was, the interesting was, the ties used to happen all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, or in the early NFL, it was just like, it was super normal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I saw that this was the first tie in the preseason since nineteen seventy three for the bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I thought, well, that's a long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then I thought, well, I don't think I've ever seen the bear's tie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, in my life is like live.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is correct.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The last regular season tie for the bear's was nineteen seventy two against the Rams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the most ties that they have had in a single season, any guess.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh goodness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like when you're talking about those early years, there was probably, there's probably, I'm gonna say like, four, five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they had six titles in nineteen thirty two what is what is stellar year but they actually they they finished seven six and one and the way that they counted that's all right seven one and seven one and six sorry seven wins one loss and six ties and so the way that they counted ties back then was that they just didn't count
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[SPEAKER_01]: against like they just like they dropped them off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So really the bears were we're seven and a lot.
13:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And so and then there were no playoff games at that time like they changed that pretty quick after this year.
13:52
[SPEAKER_01]: There are no like playoff games and so the bears had the best record by percentage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they actually won the league title.
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[SPEAKER_01]: at seven, one and six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it might have actually been why they chained like they developed a championship game after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just think it's one of the Saturn, like championship records I've ever heard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a one, six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, if you just said they're seven and one, people would be like, that's confusing.
14:20
[SPEAKER_00]: How did that happen?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, not a lot of games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just, I love that.
14:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So what happened?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the bear's records in seventy two, seventy three, those years that they were tying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably really bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the version bad in the seventies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like a Gibran era.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seven to two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So very, very bad teams, but they did have a tie on their record in nineteen sixty three, which was the, you know, the second last championship, right?
14:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And there was another tie in like forty six, which was a championship year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was trying to like, oh, did they have like a tie in championship years and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, a few, but like, you know, it's just that's just more I think just the randomness of the fact that the bears have a lot of old championships and they tied a lot back then.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, random tie news just haven't seen it much in Chicago.
15:13
[SPEAKER_01]: How about social media?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you come up with anything that you wanted a highlight that you found on social media that isn't, you know, part of a cesspool?
15:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so my this one's it's kind of an obvious one, but I think it's something that is going to linger throughout the season if things go well.
15:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was immediately the gift being made of Ben Johnson when he is celebrating obviously after the the Noah Suele when he goes and he gets that tackle for loss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at the goal line.
15:41
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, that was so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also another player that's really exciting to kind of see something come out of because we talked a lot about Noah's goal that year he was drafted and then it feels like have it talked about him much at all since then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was cool to see that for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a fun game in general for Suele and I think those are moments where
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[SPEAKER_00]: You do see flashes of why they drafted him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, you want that to continue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the Ben Johnson gift that was kind of made out of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think is something we are going to see hopefully a lot this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anytime the bear's win or anytime the play call is something crazy and kind of quirky like some of the stuff and Johnson likes to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was something that stuck out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I immediately bookmarked it because I'm hoping I'm going to be able to use that gift a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was one of the things that kind of just stuck out to me because it just, it makes things feel different and real because I just feel like it was just, like, with eberfluous, it was just like, it felt like nothing really there.
16:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And there was it always was just kind of the same thing in same reactions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if it's nice to feel like there's a coach out there with energy and whether that's him being pissed off on the sideline or showing that emotion, it's just nice to see that out of a coach who cares about what's happening.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think my favorite eberfluous gift for picture was that confused book of him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looked like he was looking up at the sunburn and it looked like that was kind of eberfluous in a nutshell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, Johnson brings an energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows the scheme master.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why you love him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a play sequencer in terms of a play color.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, why you love him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's bringing these things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then he's also bringing this leadership and energy that
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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels authentic that the players seem to be really rallying around early on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now again, that happens and you have to like see your wins for it to make that happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like I think overall, he's certainly one over the fan base.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's someone that just seems to really resonate with bears fans early on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he definitely has the benefit of the doubt right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to have to teach me how to bookmark a gift because that sounds great.
17:49
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so mine's from Nicholas Moriato, our friend over he's at Nicholas Moriato.
17:54
[SPEAKER_01]: He said, thought Louvre burden had a good chance of scoring a touchdown on this play.
17:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a video of the play and I'll describe it here in a second, but good play design with the play action and burdens runs a nice corner out towards the back.
18:07
[SPEAKER_01]: left corner of the end zone.
18:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was the play ends up being, you know, Tyson Beijing has a play action fake boots around and he dumps it short to Carlson who gains a few yards, but you know, that doesn't score touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, if you watch the play, he has two players in his vision.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got Carlson underneath and he's got burden in the back of the inzone and I'm not I'm not sure that Bayjant has that throw in his bag that's it's a tough throw like running to your left as a right hand a quarterback and you know he took the safe option that's a
18:46
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a very like there's nothing wrong with that right like that's that's that's a it's a you know he's a backup quarterback that's a play that he made it's a positive gain you know that's a throw that he felt like he could make ninety five times out of hundred ninety nine times out of a hundred what have you he may not be able to to make that throw in the back of the answer but it was wide open.
19:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's just a scheme result.
19:09
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's a guy that's really scheme-doping based on place on that play action.
19:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think once the starters are in, once you start seeing some of these scheme-doping plays, you're going to see some easing gains, right?
19:20
[SPEAKER_01]: When you get Caleb in there, you know, a guy that can make any throw, you are going to see some of these easy buttons being able to be hit where you didn't see it last year.
19:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And so even though I didn't see that much on the field yesterday, I in terms of execution, there were a couple of those that were open that were easy buttons that I think will eventually see because the scheme is going to scheme these guys open.
19:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's something I talked about a lot last year because I'm trying to remember, I think I did a podcast with, I'm trying to remember who it was.
19:53
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the former coaches, I can't remember even what his name is now.
19:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was taught, that's what he talked so much about as having the easy button and being able to use that, especially for a young quarterback, so you're trying to develop and you're trying to get comfortable back there.
20:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the last thing you want to do is take those little things away from them because those easy buttons, that's what
20:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Shanahan so good at like when you talk about Shanahan and his play calling of what works he uses that easy button so much something that we saw with Mike McDaniel on to and those things just open up other opportunities obviously but it takes some pressure off your quarterback from having to force so much and like play that hero ball and there is that balance when it's Caleb Williams you're going to want my goal of junior when I just did my podcast with him he was saying like you don't want to take that away there's a Caleb can be a magician and he can kind of do who do any stuff and you don't want to fully take that away but you also
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[SPEAKER_00]: point where he's comfortable and the best way to do that is have those easy buttons and you you have the weapons with a loop of burden with co-comment with constant lovelins on these guys that you can take the take those easy midfield type of stuff that we saw Caleb actually be pretty successful at last year when it came to that midrange continued to develop those parts of him and you I feel like it and with Ben Johnson the combination of those two I think it will be really fun
21:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I really do.
21:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I really think that that's what I was looking for was a couple of those interesting.
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking for aggression, which was there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking for some of the schematic stuff.
21:16
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're not going to see a ton of because it's still, you know, early preseason and he's not going to show you his whole playbook.
21:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just think that there's going to be some.
21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: We just haven't seen a lot of play action in this city for a long time.
21:27
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the thing that I had been asking for for years and years and years.
21:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Please just like have some play action.
21:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Mary, the run game to the past game, please.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Ben Johnson is very good at that.
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was just really excited to see something there that I think will eventually result in some points here.
21:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So all right.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So quick break for us on the other side.
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about the quarterbacks real quick.
21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're going to get into everybody's favorite category, the three bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stick with us.
21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Taylor.
21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is normally when we would talk about Caleb, what's Caleb's corner, but Caleb was hanging out of a bench.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just talking about that in a little bit.
22:06
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we talked about at the top of the show, but not having any snaps got a little bit of national media attention because a lot of the starting quarterbacks around the league did take one series, two series would have you.
22:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really have a problem with it if it was because Ben Johnson just didn't feel like
22:25
[SPEAKER_01]: They, you know, he wanted to put them out there.
22:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a little weird.
22:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I mean, whatever, again, I trust them.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, you're installing this brand new offense with, you know, everybody's learning.
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You're, you're trying to get everybody on the same page.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I trust them on that.
22:41
[SPEAKER_01]: But it does a little bit, put even a little bit more pressure on this bill's game coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think you'd want, like, by hope is that we see a half of Caleb at this point then because I just feel like you want to see some of those game reps because most of the time the third preseason game nobody's playing, none of your starters are really playing nowadays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that so you have this, this next game against the bills, who obviously is a,
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[SPEAKER_00]: a good football team you're going against and so there's a lot of things that you can take away from this and I know pre-season's interesting and a lot of people are kind of don't really like pre-season because you aren't you're not seeing offenses run full speed because I don't want to show everything or starters aren't playing in certain teams and you're kind of taking it a little bit easier it's a little more simplified than maybe you're you normally see but I do think that game reps are good you want to get some of the the maybe put
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[SPEAKER_00]: penalties.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to get some of that stuff shaken out like a lot in like formations and alignments and all of that's that's what preseason is for to make sure that you're coming out and just the game time.
23:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Like game management, the time management and that, which obviously was an issue last year for
23:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Several games you are all of that stuff to be kind of looked at and start to get comfortable.
23:52
[SPEAKER_00]: This is an offensive line where there's potentially going to be four new guys in front of Caleb.
23:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So you want to start to see some cohesiveness with that.
24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I know the joint practices.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They say the teams take a lot of out of the joint practices nowadays and sometimes some coaches feel more out of joint practices than they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: out of preseason game.
24:10
[SPEAKER_00]: So at least there's that, but you still, I think we're going to want to see it.
24:13
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to see what the, the, the, some of these connections you start, you saw or you're hearing in camp that connection with Rome, continuing to grow, but Luther missed a lot of camp.
24:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you want to start getting those two kind of on the same page too.
24:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that you're definitely in my opinion, I want to see a half of football with Caleb Williams against the bills.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, so hopefully a week from now, we're talking about that.
24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about the other two quarterbacks real quick.
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so Ty Spageant goes nine for thirteen hundred and three yards, one touchdown, one nearception.
24:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bad bad decision.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bad throw didn't get away with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two sacks and case kingdom eight for ten eighty yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions and took a sack.
24:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So, again, you're, you know, Tyson Bages playing against the a little bit stiffer competition, you know, and then those, you know, I don't know the dolphins that chart, you know, as well as I know the bears that chart of course, but, you know, the the players around these guys are becoming
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[SPEAKER_01]: more towards the end of the roster or practice squad or guys that are probably not going to make it.
25:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And in case he knows, you know, he's he's a veteran.
25:19
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been around a long time.
25:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's just it's always kind of funny to watch these guys that have played legitimate football that are in like the end of or the third quarter of a of a preseason game where you're like,
25:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we know who he is.
25:35
[SPEAKER_01]: We know he's as long as his arms still work in like he's going to be valuable here.
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not mentioned in Austin, he's reps like I said, he also, you know, played play the end of this game as well.
25:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think we're all kind of an agreement that these two guys are probably both going to make the act of roster.
25:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they have that rule where you can dress an extra guy if it's a quarterback just in an emergency situation.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And I see that that's probably going to happen here.
26:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't go out and sign a case, Keenan, when you already have Tyson Bayesian.
26:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Tyson Bayesian, I think, is a little legitimate backup quarterback here.
26:10
[SPEAKER_01]: He's shown enough that he has enough skill that you feel comfortable with him coming in and having a spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: spot start or to if needed, but also case Keenham has been in the league very long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be able to teach Keel a lot.
26:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He started many games in this league and he's been around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's learned a lot of systems.
26:31
[SPEAKER_01]: He can bring a lot like, oh, here's how I think about this play.
26:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like this play over here that you ran, you know, so he can bring a lot of experience that certainly Beijing can't into the room.
26:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that this is a very interesting approach
26:46
[SPEAKER_01]: to the quarterback room and I'm glad that they made this as opposed to last year where it was all just really young guys.
26:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
26:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why last year, a lot of people, we talked about that a lot.
26:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Like are you sure you don't want to have a veteran quarterback in the room with the rookie quarterback?
27:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And that I think at certain times did play a factor into some of the things that were happening, development and we wise we know all the crazy stuff that was happening with Shane Waldron.
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like if you did have a vet in their last year, maybe things could have been realed in a tiny bit more than what they were.
27:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is interesting and it's interesting dynamic because a lot of times when you are building your quarterback room, you like to try and have quarterbacks that are similar, obviously, because that if you're starting quarterback goes out, you don't want to have to completely switch everything that you do offensively.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do think that is one of the benefits of Tyson and Caleb.
27:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And you said this earlier, like he doesn't have, he can't make every throw that Caleb had.
27:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He can't do that.
27:44
[SPEAKER_00]: But he can do a lot of similar things.
27:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He can move when you need to.
27:46
[SPEAKER_00]: We saw some of that play action stuff he could do yesterday.
27:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So I do feel like they're similar enough to where hopefully not, but if something were to happen to Caleb, I would be confident that they wouldn't have to completely shift and change the entire offense.
27:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Tyson could would be able to run something pretty similar.
28:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe some of the throws you'd have to eliminate, but I do think what Ben Johnson is good at it when you talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: schematically and scheming guys open and stuff like that.
28:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would help Tyson.
28:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think with case keynum, it's a positive because like you said, it's a vet in the room that can kind of help Caleb and some of the things that maybe started to regress last season because he didn't have that ear like, you know, someone to just kind of listen and go through stuff.
28:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I do think that's a positive.
28:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, case has been in the league for a long time.
28:29
[SPEAKER_00]: You saw that yesterday and a few moments into your point, it was against probably pretty deep into their
28:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They're a depth chart in Miami, but I still think there was just like a level of comfortableness like I've done this.
28:40
[SPEAKER_00]: There's not and there was a few plays where I was like, okay, this is the case that I remember seeing in Minnesota that play off year that they had and then after they ended up obviously not keeping case kingdom and keeping Kirk cousins.
28:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But there were moments of where you're like, okay, this guy can be a good backup in the league.
28:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I do think it's beneficial that you have a guy that can do similar to what Caleb can do.
28:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you also have a guy who has that the veteran experience in the NFL and
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[SPEAKER_00]: and winning season, too, in the NFL.
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want this to come up ever, right?
29:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want this to be healthy all year and take all the snaps, you know, maybe, you know, somebody gets to take the kneel down to the end of a game situations, but like, otherwise, you know, I don't want this to happen, but I'm very curious that if
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[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb got hurt in a game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Tyson's probably the direct backup and comes in the finished game.
29:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that if Caleb were to miss a start, I think that they have a week of planning.
29:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they would actually make our case kingdom start the game.
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it could be completely wrong.
29:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I don't want to find out.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: That is something that that's kind of how I see where these guys are at and the roles that they would play.
29:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, again, I don't want to see.
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to find out.
29:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I just that that's how I have this in my mind.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to the three bears.
29:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So, hotball approach, coldball approach, and just right, who is the guy that you want to focus on in terms of, yeah, he really popped out of the screen, wasn't necessarily expecting that hotball approach.
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm going to go to who you kind of started the show with and my hot was Austin Booker.
30:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I some and we talked about numbers he had the highest pass rush grade of any player and preseason week one and the second highest overall defensive grade obviously those three sacks exactly what you want to see from a guy like that to your point you want to start to see some some other pass
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you want to hope to start to see those things develop, but I think this is exactly what you could ask of a preseason game one from somebody who you kind of in a room that has question marks and there was a that that having the past rush the bears were not good at it last year and Montez probably had one of his worst seasons honestly last year too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you want to have somebody across from him that you can kind of
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[SPEAKER_00]: and figure out and get some sacks out of.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And so Austin was my hot player from this just because I feel like it was really fun to see the kind of explosiveness and the quickness of how he was I felt at moments dominating up front, which I think it was really fun to kind of see that.
31:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you brought up an interesting point about the the past rush last year was really tepid like it just did not work.
31:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And part of that is scheme, you know, this, you know, not wanting to be creative at all.
31:27
[SPEAKER_01]: It was very little blitzing.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: There's very little stunts that were happening, particularly early in the season.
31:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And you just didn't see any sort of creativity to try to get a guy like Montes what some advantageous matchups, because as an offensive line, if you know that you only have really one threat, you can take that out with scheme.
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: You can double, you can roll the pocket, you could do a lot of things to take that guy away.
31:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to suggest that Montess what is a top three pass restaurant in the league because he is not, but he is a good pass rusher.
32:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, he deserves to be teamed up every once in a while.
32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: This was kind of my problem with Klo Mac back in the day was that he's so good that it was just like, oh, go win.
32:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well,
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but like this we can they can scheme again and he put him in this wide nine and like you know it's a long path to the quarterback and it's like give him give him some some you know easy reps and now and that give him give him an advantageous matchup to try to see if you can get home and and try to create you know some some chaos that way that is Alan can create chaos and and I think we saw that yesterday that he's he's not afraid to bring the blitz and that's the kind of couple seconds left you ascending
32:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's do it, right?
32:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's zero blitz this thing.
32:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, that is a style football that I like, and now you're going to get burned.
32:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, football is the modern game of football is explosive chunk plays, and then trying to steal possessions when you can.
32:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can create some, you know, sacs with some strip fumbles, you know, you can create a tip ball that gets picked off, that you can do something where you take a position away from the offense and give it to your offense.
33:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how you win football games in the modern NFL.
33:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love, I love to see a more attacking style defensive coordinator.
33:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that was a lot of fun to see.
33:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So absolutely, I think, you know, booker.
33:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think just overall, like the willingness to be aggressive is what I like to see out of this defense.
33:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to be talking about this defense maybe more than we thought we would because I think that they're really gel and quick with that as Alan.
33:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's really good to see.
33:37
[SPEAKER_01]: We already talked about this, but Kalmanungi running the football the first time I've seen him in a professional setting running the football.
33:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was very impressive.
33:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have a lot of tackles for loss.
33:50
[SPEAKER_01]: At Rutgers, he does a fumble right like he didn't fumble in college.
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And so those are those are two things that are nice to have in a backup running back.
33:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that he's going to get fifteen carries a game or anything, but I think that if he can figure out the past pro, then
34:08
[SPEAKER_01]: he can eventually be counted on to be in these games and take, you know, three, four, five carries.
34:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's somewhat like, you know, that's, that's an interesting rookie season from him if you can get in and get a few snaps and carry a few times.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can be trusted in the past pro, I think we will see him, but it may take a little while.
34:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It may take a few weeks into the year before they feel comfortable putting him out there.
34:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was, that was the guy that I wanted to talk about for hot.
34:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's flip it around and talk cold bullet porage guy that's like, oh boy, what's happening here?
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody stick out for you on that?
34:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So mine is kind of a group in general and this was like the kick and put retainers and the kick and the special teams I think in that area in general and Richard high towers the one guy they brought back and this was a special team set.
34:58
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a reason for that because they've had a lot of success back there when
35:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Vailus wasn't muffing punts, but when I was looking at some of those numbers, not good.
35:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They averaged nine yards of return when it came to those punt returns while Miami had nine on nine, so they averaged nineteen on the punt while we had nine, and then we averaged twenty one point seven yards per attempt on kick returns, Miami averaged thirty eight point seven.
35:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely not what you want to see on either side.
35:23
[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't doing enough, and then also I felt like every time they were almost starting midfield.
35:28
[SPEAKER_00]: which you obviously don't want to let happen.
35:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that the defense we know this defense and when they talked about it a lot during the broadcast yesterday the red zone defense from last year being one of the better ones in the NFL and it looks like they can be that again, but if you're constantly giving the ball to the opponent and they're getting it on the forty fifty.
35:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, it kind of, it worries me a little bit.
35:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know there's, there's things that are figuring out.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I like high tower.
35:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I think that they'll start to shake things out.
35:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I've know it in the past.
35:56
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been doing a last year in Jacksonville.
35:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Really didn't do much, but it's previous seasons before he hit Jacksonville.
36:02
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a really, really good returner.
36:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I am expecting more from that.
36:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But that whole, in general, punk returns kick returns did not have me very excited yesterday.
36:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd like to see the hang time on Tory Taylor's puns, but they felt like they landed quick.
36:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And so even though he got a lot, literally, I'll kick this coverage.
36:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That was my quick takeaway.
36:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I didn't, I didn't time when I didn't see anything about it, but it felt like he got some good distance, but he did not get a lot of height.
36:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that was a problem on two of those puns that I saw.
36:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the other one like went in the end zone, I think it was just,
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been able to figure out the pin yet at the pro level.
36:45
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been nearly as successful with that as he was in college.
36:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm not tracking and charting preseason puns, but I did just have like a gut feel that he was kind of
36:58
[SPEAKER_01]: line driving them.
36:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that might have been part of it.
37:01
[SPEAKER_01]: The return game.
37:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just not pretty, you know, nothing, nothing opening up.
37:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Part of that is that again, you're you're building these special teams out of a lot of players that, you know, probably aren't going to be active on game day, but.
37:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd like to see a little bit more juice from somebody, you know, a lane open up every once in a while, just seemed like they was just, it was not pretty.
37:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And they got away with one.
37:23
[SPEAKER_01]: There was one that kind of skittered to the pilot.
37:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, man, that was like, that's trouble.
37:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, special teams is a good call out there.
37:32
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, my cold bowl is, I'm going to give it to Braxton.
37:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, again, I
37:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have a chance to watch all twenty two tape.
37:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I dropped about an hour before we started here.
37:44
[SPEAKER_01]: What I could see from the, you know, the television view broadcast for you.
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: He, you know, maybe it's just rust, maybe it's like maybe his body really isn't right yet, but he did not look
38:00
[SPEAKER_01]: prepared on a few of those.
38:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And just my interpretation of what's happening, but you know, a few of those is his body just looked stiff and, you know, easily out maneuvered and shrugged off, you know, defenders were able to shrug him off very, very easily.
38:20
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know what this coaching staff wants.
38:23
[SPEAKER_01]: They drafted a player in the second round with a premium pick that they like.
38:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have a left guard that was traded for and signed an extension.
38:35
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a high free agent acquisition at center.
38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a right guard that they traded for and gave an extension to.
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have
38:44
[SPEAKER_01]: a premium pick that has proven them and has played well in Darnell Wright at Wright Tackle who, you know, will almost certainly get an extension here in the near future.
38:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have four guys of your five offensive linemen that you feel pretty good are going to be here for the next two, three years for sure.
39:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that they want Braxton Jones who almost certainly is going to play for another team next year or
39:08
[SPEAKER_01]: do they want their guy, Aussie, torpedoes come in and even if they have to maybe scheme around him a little bit, they want him to get in and gel with that other four group so that they're playing together from the start and they have, you know, the ability to build some continuity here.
39:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the coaching staff is like, if this is a tie, we're going to go with Aussie.
39:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So the pressure I think is all on for Braxton, but if his body's not right, then I think it's better for him to know that and take it slow and protect himself.
39:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just obviously I want the best player out on the field, but I want these guys to, you know, to not push themselves into a point where they have a re-injury and so they're career back or anything like that.
39:49
[SPEAKER_01]: But that was, let's just hope that it was rust because it did not look good from where I was sitting.
39:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and it's like we always know we've talked about Brexit a lot when it comes to like the bull rush and not being able to handle that but there was just completely misblocks yesterday and I mean the one that went all over Twitter he had a handout and it was like he just kind of assisted him actually to help him to the quarterback and those are just things you don't want it you don't want but yeah I agree with you honestly I think that if it came down to you know it's the week before week one and they're having a conversation and they're like Brexit and Ozzy or
40:26
[SPEAKER_00]: neck and neck like you either one and not saying that that's great.
40:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably if that's the if that's the the circumstance that it's probably not white at the level of left tackle that you'd hope for but I think they'd go Aussie to I mean what with Brass was a fifth round pick right so you're talking about Yes, Orion Poles pick but
40:46
[SPEAKER_00]: There's this new coaching staff in Johnson has the type of offensive linemen he likes and obviously I'm sure he had a lot of say and what this Aussie pick and what he liked out of that he's massive human being and so you want one of the a lot of the criticisms honestly kind of came from that where people are like is he gonna be able he's so big is he gonna be able to kind of like get down and be able to do the things that some of these offensive linemen at the type of position are able to do I've liked
41:11
[SPEAKER_00]: What I've heard from camp of what people talk about when what Aussie's been doing, but I think that you pick, you pick Aussie, you pick your rookie because you want to get those five jellings as soon as possible and hopefully that's your future five.
41:25
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I met with it.
41:27
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, how about the just right bowl?
41:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, they're just like, yep, that's what I was hoping for.
41:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to go Luther burden on this one.
41:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he obviously there's there are few.
41:36
[SPEAKER_00]: The one stuck out obviously the first one.
41:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the third and fifteen.
41:40
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets that first down there.
41:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That was really fun to see because number one awareness he knew exactly like that's where you we talked so much about the capabilities of Luther burden and what kind of wide receiver he is and he's kind of a mesh of everything.
41:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I know during the broadcast that when they were interviewing Rome, it was just
41:55
[SPEAKER_00]: It was so he was so awkward.
41:57
[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, I don't really know how to answer this right now because she was like if DJ and you had a baby, it's Lutheran burden hilarious.
42:04
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think it is.
42:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it does feel like he kind of has that he's that middle ground between those two wider severs and can do a little bit of both.
42:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But that also, I don't know if we talked enough about his football IQ and in that moment, you know, which your first game as a rookie, yes, it's a preseason, but he was very aware
42:21
[SPEAKER_00]: of exactly where that first down marker was and kind of twisted his body to make sure he got up and got that first down on the third and fifteen.
42:27
[SPEAKER_00]: So I really liked what I saw from that.
42:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I also liked when he on the monoggy run inside the tin.
42:33
[SPEAKER_00]: His past blood has run blocking in that moment.
42:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yes, this is exactly what we want to see.
42:38
[SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about a guy who right now
42:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Some people are saying that might be your wide receiver for because that case has been playing really well.
42:45
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people like the things that they're seeing out of him.
42:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So if your wide receiver for you're going to be asked to do some of those things.
42:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So to me, it's really positive that you were able to see the run blocking ability yesterday in the game too.
42:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, block, no rock.
43:00
[SPEAKER_01]: The Ben Johnson way.
43:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And so you got to make sure that you buy in and all phases.
43:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, some people were freaking out about Luther Burton because he was early second round pick.
43:09
[SPEAKER_01]: They had all those second round picks held out for guaranteed money.
43:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a whole thing in the off season and they were waiting for like this guy to sign so they could kind of
43:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, okay, well, this next guy will take a little less, a little less less.
43:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's starting to get nervous and then like, well, he's a Dima, you know, I didn't hear anybody say Asitra Pillow was a Dima, right?
43:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though he was holding out, right?
43:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I just, you know, they didn't say that about Turner, right?
43:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
43:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's always a receiver that they're going to do.
43:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he is a little diva, right?
43:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Like most receivers have that, most receivers that aren't named Rome, a little diva to them, right?
43:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I had Luther Burton written that as well because I wanted him to kind of jump off the page.
43:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, playing in the preseason game, you know, you're not going to have a lot of starters on the field.
43:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to see if he jumped off.
43:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, he did.
43:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's exactly what I wanted to see because if you're jumping off the page against guys that are backups, when you get in the game, we can starters.
44:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that means that you have a high potential of looking like you belong.
44:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's what I was hoping for.
44:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw it.
44:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt really good about that.
44:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I also wrote down Ben Johnson.
44:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I always liked to write down two names in case.
44:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do the next one.
44:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so you did take mine there.
44:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But I wrote down Ben Johnson because, you know, this is, this is the first time I've called my shot.
44:32
[SPEAKER_01]: And correctly, I should say, on a coach.
44:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have been talking about it for over a year.
44:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this was, you know, I thought they should have Firedy perfluose number four.
44:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would have gone after Ben Johnson.
44:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, you know, you can't know for sure what would have happened, but like that's that's where my mind was right.
44:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I've been just been watching this guy.
44:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I've really wanted it and then when it happens you're like, oh, I'm right.
44:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a great.
45:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I am with Rome because I beat the table about Rome so hard.
45:06
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, if I'm wrong about Rome, this is gonna
45:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And happened.
45:09
[SPEAKER_01]: We all get enough right and wrong over time, but this is definitely the first time that I've actually like, like, this has happened.
45:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I wanted to see, like, you know, I think this guy's going to be creative.
45:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to be aggressive.
45:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's, you know, all these things that I saw into Troy, but then, you know, sometimes circumstances change.
45:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you know, now I'm the guy.
45:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to play things differently.
45:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he
45:33
[SPEAKER_01]: already showed a level of aggression that we, you know, we haven't seen in previous regimes, right?
45:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Looking at its preseason, but like, you know, I think you see some of those things come through.
45:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw some fun.
45:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't be stuff on on some of the play designs already, right?
45:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a preseason and he's already kind of playing with, you know, a little flare-out fake over here, you know, with a with a quick draws.
45:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's injured.
45:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fun.
45:59
[SPEAKER_01]: There's just stuff that he's willing to even show in the preseason that seems fun to me and this bear's offense has lacked.
46:08
[SPEAKER_01]: like any kind of creativity, maybe he had some level of creativity in the passing game, but creativity throughout the entire offense.
46:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know that I've ever seen that in a bear's offense, and I think we're gonna see it now.
46:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is gonna be a cutting edge offense.
46:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I really do.
46:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's something that the league is going to be interested in and it's gonna study because Ben Johnson is combining concepts that
46:36
[SPEAKER_01]: have it been combined quite like what he does.
46:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And in a league, that's full of shanahan, McDaniel variety, which is very effective and goes well.
46:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But the defenses are really focused on that because a lot of teams run that style of offense.
46:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And so you've got something that's different.
47:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's been successful and Detroit for three years now.
47:05
[SPEAKER_01]: what's the level of success going to be with new weaponry and reshaping it to be crafted towards the room in Chicago.
47:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to bring an advantage to this bear's team that is going to be really exciting to watch.
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: And so for me, it felt just a kernel because again, it's preseason, but just the kernel of what I've been holding back for a very long time and hope once this higher was made, I was just like, okay.
47:35
[SPEAKER_00]: like breathe calm calm yourself because you know you got a long wait until you actually see it but I felt like I saw a little bit yesterday that I felt made me feel really good yeah and it isn't to your point you're not even seeing like they're he's not showing you a ton so you're getting these tiny glimpses of what Ben Johnson is in addition Caleb Williams was an out there and that's what makes me so excited because some of the things we already know that Caleb Williams can do kind of like some of the off schedule stuff or the way he can move and
48:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Once he gets out of the pocket, but also I think even like in moments last year, his biggest criticism we always heard was not being able to play in structure.
48:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And last year we saw moments like he was able to do it.
48:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And so now you have a coach who, by the way, I love that you have this offensive minded coach who is just like a hard ass too, because I feel like that's what the Bears needed.
48:22
[SPEAKER_00]: There was just so many moments last year where you felt like
48:26
[SPEAKER_00]: The reason DJ is kind of pounding on the sideline is because there's no accountability and that room and that started at the top with a lot of the coaches then Johnson will not let that happen and you could tell that something he already corrected early on.
48:36
[SPEAKER_00]: But it is it makes me really excited to think about if you are already seeing some of those flashes yesterday and a preseason game one with Tyson Major in case kingdom.
48:44
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you seeing when it's Caleb and DJ Moore and Roma Dunze and Cole Comet and DeAndre Swift and all of these other guys on the field?
48:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and by the way starting offensive line that should be much improved to last year.
48:54
[SPEAKER_00]: It really, it's hard to not start feeling a little like giddy thinking about what the offense could look like.
49:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I'm excited.
49:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a month to polish this up and debut it on a Monday night football game, but this was preseason game one.
49:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there was enough interesting things for us to take on to week two.
49:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Taylor, thank you for jumping on and filling in for Lester any final thoughts before we get out here.
49:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, you're welcome.
49:22
[SPEAKER_00]: That was I honestly feel like I haven't been able to talk enough bears lately.
49:26
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've been excited to be able any chance I've get to talk to bears because it's been obviously people know I come with a jack suit.
49:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been so much that in the only thing we got to talk about out of that game was a seventy yard feel goal that was made.
49:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything else kind of looks a little rough.
49:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so it's fun to kind of see some of these young pieces that you're excited about when you talk about a close and level and an elephant bird in and seeing Aussie out there at least a little bit, but just kind of awesome book or a dumb rob like I, it's fun to kind of see some of these pieces and it's the backups and you still felt like I had people texting me during the game being like, dang, like, there's defense looks good.
49:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, and this isn't even like the starters that are out there right now.
50:02
[SPEAKER_00]: This is
50:03
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, got two second third string guys that are other people watching and against a first string Miami offense and for the most part.
50:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's the there's excitement there, but I do think that sometimes similar to you, I do have to like reel it back in sometimes and be like, I need to see it.
50:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to see it all play out in actual games and you want those wins losses coming and you have
50:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Minnesota week one is going to be without Jordan Addison, but in JJ McCarthy who were hearing ups and downs from through camp, but it's Kevin O'Connell and we've seen what he's been able to do with virtually any quarterback over there.
50:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's let's hope the bearers carry a multi-scored lead because Kevin O'Connell is very good in one score game.
50:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't want to we don't want to go down to the wire there, but you know Ben Johnson is aggressive and you know, we're we're going to it's going to be fun.
50:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be fun.
50:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's my hope and if I'm wrong, then I don't know anything about football.
50:58
[SPEAKER_01]: These are all the elements that I've wanted over the years and I finally got them so you know they don't we'll be put to the test year but thanks again Taylor and thank all of you we are back hopefully Lester feels better by next week and we will talk about the bills game then I am going to try to go to that game so I'll we'll see about that and then
51:20
[SPEAKER_01]: going to go to a Cubs game on Monday and you know have a little fun Chicago and then yeah we're almost in the regular season.
51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So the fun is about to start everybody and again, finish your summer projects.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks everybody.