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Rebecca Grossman Requested Prison Visit | Venice Karen · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: I was there for the whole thing. I'll tell you though.
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  Speaker 1: When you're working out six days a week in the
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  Speaker 1: martial arts and then all of a sudden you have
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  Speaker 1: to stop, maybe back off on the snacks afterwards. What
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  Speaker 1: did Petros Papadegus refer to football players after they stop?
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  Speaker 1: You know, they're used to eating twenty thousand calories a
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  Speaker 1: day or whatever he calls it. The what is the spread?
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  Speaker 1: The spread formation? AnyWho? I hate this story in so
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  Speaker 1: many ways, but I want to talk about it. So
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  Speaker 1: you have a woman who loses her her sons, beautiful boys,
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  Speaker 1: Mark and Jacob, in that horrible crosswalk accident that we
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  Speaker 1: heard about. You have this socialite, which I hate that term,
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  Speaker 1: but she strikes me as one socialite. Rebecca Grossman was
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  Speaker 1: sentenced for killing those two brothers in that twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: crash there in Westlake Village. I know the area very
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  Speaker 1: very well. Grew up near out that, not in Westlake,
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  Speaker 1: but Newbury Park. So Nancy iscandor she was not through dot.
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  Speaker 1: Now I don't know the legality of this, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. You can ask, if you're the victim of
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  Speaker 1: something like this, you can ask to not be contacted.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine right you can say to the court,
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  Speaker 1: I do not want to be contacted by this person,
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  Speaker 1: what have you. I don't know that if that's in
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  Speaker 1: place or not, but I think it was through an
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  Speaker 1: attorney that she had been reached out to. So the
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  Speaker 1: mom of two dead boys killed by this woman is
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  Speaker 1: contacted by Rebecca Grossman, and she says, I want you
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  Speaker 1: to come visit me in prison, to see the circumstances
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  Speaker 1: that I'm in. That she's a victim, posts herself as
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  Speaker 1: a victim, and I'm floored. I'm absolutely floored. God bless
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  Speaker 1: Nancy and her strength as a human being. Says while
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  Speaker 1: I can only imagine how difficult her life is behind
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  Speaker 1: bars and what that must be, the truth is this,
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  Speaker 1: I would trade places with her in a heartbeat. She
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  Speaker 1: said on social media. I would live in any prison cell,
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  Speaker 1: under any conditions, for the rest of my life if
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  Speaker 1: it meant my beautiful boys could be alive again, laughing, dreaming,
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  Speaker 1: growing up and chasing every beautiful future they deserved. Holy crap.
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  Speaker 1: If that doesn't kick you in the solar plexus, there's
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  Speaker 1: something wrong with you.
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  Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking and just frankly disgusting that she would in
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  Speaker 2: any way ask for come see me, see where I'm living,
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  Speaker 2: see the circumstances I'm in. The woman was driving eighty
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  Speaker 2: one miles an hour when she hit these two little
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  Speaker 2: boys who were in the crosswalk. This is one of
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  Speaker 2: those stories that I remember covering it when it happened,
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  Speaker 2: and it has stuck with me. Ever since, and every
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  Speaker 2: time we talk about it's heartbreaking. I cannot imagine that
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  Speaker 2: mother what she went through seeing that happen, losing her children,
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  Speaker 2: and then to have the person who did it convicted?
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  Speaker 2: Who did it? Say? But come and see me, and
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  Speaker 2: how hard my life is. I agree with you. I'm
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  Speaker 2: very passionate, and it makes me angry as well.
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  Speaker 1: You hurt my family, you hurt my beautiful nine year
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  Speaker 1: old boy. I will forgive you, by the grace of God,
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  Speaker 1: but I will not forget. And to be asked such
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  Speaker 1: a thing shows the vulgar display of entitlement that Rebecca
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  Speaker 1: Grossman has and still has she had then from the defense,
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  Speaker 1: and how disgusting her attorneys are to me that they
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  Speaker 1: would even like at what point, listen, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: As an attorney in the United States, you are paid
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  Speaker 1: to defend somebody and they have the right to a defense.
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  Speaker 1: But to go past that after the case is done,
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  Speaker 1: And if this was delivered by an attorney, this letter
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  Speaker 1: of this request, whatever it is, I would say, f and.
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  Speaker 2: You, Well, they're taking that check, they're charge I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: they're charging.
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  Speaker 1: It for it. They're getting paid seven hundred dollars an hour,
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  Speaker 1: probably whatever it is. But at that point you're not
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  Speaker 1: defending somebody. Court's not hearing this. There is not a
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  Speaker 1: you know, constitutional commitment at that point. I just this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. Mark and Jacob Mark and Jacob Mark and
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  Speaker 1: Jacob never forget their names. They are the victims, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: their mother is candor that she is the victim. Rebecca
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  Speaker 1: Grossman only lost her status and thank god, through the
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  Speaker 1: justice justice system has seen herself behind bars, and we
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  Speaker 1: all know that she'd prefer to be you know, at
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  Speaker 1: a bar, not behind them. But the fact that she
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  Speaker 1: would even dare to ask this there is the reason
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  Speaker 1: why this stood out to me is that there is
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  Speaker 1: that that entitlement that we can't seem to shake right
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  Speaker 1: now in the United States. Everybody is entitled, everybody selfish.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody is so good, so focused on themselves. We don't
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  Speaker 1: see how we interact and how our actions affect others.
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  Speaker 1: And I say, we I fight this in my own self,
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  Speaker 1: but what a vulgar just play. This is the peak
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  Speaker 1: of it right here. She should get nothing. And I
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  Speaker 1: hope she's eating that that meat block or meat brick
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  Speaker 1: or whatever they serve in prison. Tiny fest we represent thelipop,
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  Speaker 1: term Karen's and I don't know what is the guy one?
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  Speaker 1: Is it Ken or something? I don't know. They're changing.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a new one. Is it Jessica. Is
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  Speaker 1: that the new one? Jessica is the new one? So
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  Speaker 1: that changes, and really what it comes down to is
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  Speaker 1: a certain age. You know, the name Karen was very popular,
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  Speaker 1: like in the seventies. My sister's name is Karen, but
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  Speaker 1: she changed it after all this to not Karen so
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  Speaker 1: that she wouldn't get caught up. Thanks ConA for the charity. Laugh.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But we use that, we use that,
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  Speaker 1: and there are some legitimate terms that they're legitimate uses
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  Speaker 1: for it, like the whole you know, let me speak
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  Speaker 1: to the manager on everything. The entitlement stuff is garbage.
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  Speaker 1: We all hate that. Nobody likes that. But what I
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  Speaker 1: hate is when there are legitimate concerns, are legitimate beefs
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  Speaker 1: with things. Now you're a Karen. Now it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: this person doesn't like noise at four in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: What a Karen. Nobody does? Man, nobody does. People want
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  Speaker 1: to sleep. Sorry, that's not a Karen thing. That's a
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  Speaker 1: society thing. That's a community thing. And so there was
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  Speaker 1: a couple of stories that producer and I were talking
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  Speaker 1: about that popped up that made me go, you know,
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  Speaker 1: are these Karens or no? Okay, So, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: the first one is someone that they've actually deemed the
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  Speaker 1: Venice Karen, some guy and they put up these posters,
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  Speaker 1: they're like wanted posters with the guy's picture on it
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  Speaker 1: and his name and saying, this guy's a jerk, he's
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  Speaker 1: the Venice Karen. He's gotten threats now social media attacks
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  Speaker 1: on his character. Why because he lives in Venice and
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  Speaker 1: he's annoyed by this restaurant nearby that has you know,
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  Speaker 1: since the pandemic that everybody started eating outside. You had
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  Speaker 1: to pivot, you had to, you know, that word that
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  Speaker 1: we all loved during COVID Gonna Pivot, Pivot, Pivot friends
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  Speaker 1: reference for those that watch, and that whole thing between, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we've you know, in the pandemic. You gotta feed everybody
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  Speaker 1: in the outside. And then what happened was you had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of restaurants, rightly, so that had to make
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  Speaker 1: up and try and build, you know, their business back
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  Speaker 1: up because it was stupid they were shut down in
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  Speaker 1: the first place. And so they are now relying on
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  Speaker 1: those outdoor seats even without a license or going through
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  Speaker 1: the proper that the hell Fresco license or whatever the
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  Speaker 1: permit that they used. So I don't know if this
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  Speaker 1: falls into the Karen category. When you have this outdoor
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  Speaker 1: place near residential where you can be loud, and I
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  Speaker 1: guess with that attracts some crime elements, some fighting and
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  Speaker 1: stuff like that, So drug dealing urinating because they don't
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  Speaker 1: have the bathrooms for the extra people. They weren't built
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  Speaker 1: for that, So you've got dudes going and peeing all
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  Speaker 1: over the place and all of that. Now, this this
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  Speaker 1: guy is deemed the Venice Karen, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that falls into I don't think it does. This
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  Speaker 1: isn't just that cafe.
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  Speaker 4: Though HBO's new documentary series Neighbors that talks about neighbors
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  Speaker 4: that hate each other. Venice Karen is on there. So
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  Speaker 4: this David guy is way worse than what you're describing. Well,
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  Speaker 4: this guy property lines, you can't. He chases out like kids.
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  Speaker 4: He's he's insane as the way the HBO documentary Neighbors
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  Speaker 4: portrays him.
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  Speaker 1: But he is insane. Okay. Do you think that that
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  Speaker 1: is just a bias in the way they put this
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  Speaker 1: together or I don't know if.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just walking on the beach, like I don't know
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  Speaker 4: this is a property, I'm not doing anything and ankinally
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  Speaker 4: approaches me like get out of here.
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  Speaker 1: But that here you're allowed to walk on the beach. No,
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  Speaker 1: not in his territory. No you're not. No, you're not
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  Speaker 1: during like during the day or after hours during the day.
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  Speaker 4: He knows property lines, he has maps. He will tell
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  Speaker 4: you if you're sitting on the beach, he'll say, like
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  Speaker 4: you are four feet on this property, you need to
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  Speaker 4: move forward. It's he's a wild guy and he likes
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  Speaker 4: to do it though he likes to bring this upon himself.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I either stand corrected or I am uh
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  Speaker 1: it's on the episode. You can watch it and then
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  Speaker 1: you come back and you were I don't have time.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a homeowner, Dave. I can't just watch.
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  Speaker 4: Something like that. Fich he's at g is a Karen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I would say, okay, so that that the.
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  Speaker 1: The cafe is not doing anything then, but so they're
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  Speaker 1: not doing anything, they're there're some people are not doing anything.
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  Speaker 1: I mean just reading a book of beach. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the cafe.
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  Speaker 3: They're not loud at night, They're not again, this could
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  Speaker 3: have been an incident where things happen. I get it,
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  Speaker 3: But I wouldn't say that this cafe is the main
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  Speaker 3: story behind Venice.
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  Speaker 1: Karen. Well, I didn't mention them because I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know for myself, and and I am a supporter.
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  Speaker 1: Don't associate a bunch of drunks going to a cafe.
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  Speaker 1: It's in a bar. It's not it's a it's a cafe,
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  Speaker 1: probably nice people and samples. Okay, Well, you love chaos,
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  Speaker 1: I know it. Not this guy. I don't like this.
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  Speaker 1: Just wait to you own a home Bob. This is
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