Latest / The Central Indiana Sports Report / The Fever Report with John & Michelle (Caitlin's Injury & an Ode to Kelsey, Podcast No. 327.2)
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- 0:00[SPEAKER_03]: So before we get to today's podcast, I just want to talk about what's going on with the podcast.
- 0:05[SPEAKER_03]: And we have a fever report once a week.
- 0:09[SPEAKER_03]: We meet out here at Tipton Municipal Golf Course to talk some fever basketball.
- 0:14[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, we're going to also be talking about some WNA all stars.
- 0:19[SPEAKER_03]: And we have a reaction after every game, although we didn't last night because we were doing the fever report today.
- 0:28[SPEAKER_03]: But typically we have a reaction podcast after every game and of course we'll do that after the liberty game coming up here.
- 0:35[SPEAKER_03]: We will do that through the W&B A finals, John.
- 0:39[SPEAKER_03]: And this is the weekly fever report that you are listening to in John Robertson, Michelle Garman and I are gonna talk some fever, Katelyn Clark's injury and Kelsey Mitchell and Natasha Howard and how they've been playing in particular.
- 0:57[SPEAKER_03]: Here it is.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_03]: you're listening to the central Indiana sports report with your host Greg Mendel's welcome fever fans of the central Indiana sports report and our weekly fever report John Robertson Michelle Garmin John take it away
- 1:21[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's kind of an exciting time for the WMBA this week.
- 1:24[SPEAKER_05]: We've got the all-star game coming up, but the fever have a lot of games back to back coming up, right before we also aim.
- 1:30[SPEAKER_05]: So, I mean, the big story is what's up with Caitlyn's injury.
- 1:33[SPEAKER_05]: Did she get hurt enough that she's going to be out for a while?
- 1:38[SPEAKER_05]: It didn't look good, but Michelle, what do you think?
- 1:41[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I don't think it looks good.
- 1:42[SPEAKER_01]: Whether or not they want to try it.
- 1:45[SPEAKER_01]: If they're smart, they're going to, if they're smart, she's not going to do anything for the all stars except maybe sit at a sit at a table and sign on a grass.
- 1:55[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, that's all that I'm going to love.
- 1:59[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the fever and even if I'm in the WNBA, yes, I know it's in Indianapolis and you think it'll be great to have her, but she can sit there to table and sign autographs.
- 2:07[SPEAKER_01]: It's more important that she gets healthy and because the kind of injury she's had this year, they're lingering injuries if you don't take care of them right.
- 2:14[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I hope for sure.
- 2:15[SPEAKER_05]: There's been no injury report yet tonight, but I'm hoping for certain she doesn't play tonight.
- 2:21[SPEAKER_05]: She is scheduled to be available for autographs on Friday.
- 2:24[SPEAKER_05]: There's conspiracy theories that this is what the WMBA wants, right?
- 2:29[SPEAKER_05]: Like she brings all the hype and she gets all the hype, but now I'll start weak and we'll be about everyone other than her because she has to sit out.
- 2:36[SPEAKER_05]: How do you feel about that conspiracy, guys?
- 2:37[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not big and I'm not big into conspiracy because here's the thing, you know, they announced yesterday that she heard Sabrina and I asked you were going to be, I think they were the headliners for the three point contest.
- 2:49[SPEAKER_01]: Which I thought at the time, I thought with Kate and with the industry, she had leg injuries for not in a shooting group.
- 2:54[SPEAKER_01]: I would have never done
- 2:55[SPEAKER_03]: but you understand why everyone wants her to.
- 2:58[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I understood why everyone wanted her to.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought in the best interest of the fever and in the best interest of Caitlin that it would be better that she didn't and then she goes out and she gets hurt last night.
- 3:08[SPEAKER_03]: In the best interest of TV ratings though, it's going to happen.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you want to help me.
- 3:13[SPEAKER_05]: You want her on the roster before up until the game day so that people by tickets and come to the show.
- 3:18[SPEAKER_05]: But then if you're wanting to highlight everyone else, you're not too sad that she's not on there.
- 3:22[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're a Katelyn Hater or one of them, and now the hot to find replacement, they've already had to.
- 3:27[SPEAKER_01]: Katelyn McBride was named a replacement for the indirect ride Howard.
- 3:33[SPEAKER_05]: Well, we can get back to the injury more a little bit.
- 3:35[SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully we have information by the time we're done with this, but we can talk about it.
- 3:39[SPEAKER_05]: We can talk about the game last night.
- 3:41[SPEAKER_05]: Started out really fast.
- 3:44[SPEAKER_05]: I went back and watched the first quarter.
- 3:46[SPEAKER_05]: Started out really quick and then again, they just gave up the lead in the second quarter and it was really close up until the end.
- 3:52[SPEAKER_05]: It was one of the ugliest wins the fever of God in all season.
- 3:56[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was John and the thing is it was really they didn't get a lot of contribution from who I call there are two stars which are Caitlyn in the first half or at least through three quarters are Caitlyn Aliabawsted, Aliabattle, Faltrable last night, Caitlyn had some shooting mode.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, her assists were good, but she wasn't shooting very well.
- 4:15[SPEAKER_01]: She did better in the second half, especially that fourth quarter.
- 4:19[SPEAKER_01]: But the fever were, you know, kind of leading and in that game with their two
- 4:26[SPEAKER_05]: This this brings up a point I want to talk about though everybody says the two stars Caitlyn and Alia but Kelsey Mitchell's been the most consistent player for the team pretty much all season I and I find it star wise.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_05]: I'm well, there might be the two biggest stars.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_01]: I called it.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're good.
- 4:42[SPEAKER_01]: You're good.
- 4:42[SPEAKER_05]: This just brings up a point that I want to talk about though.
- 4:44[SPEAKER_05]: It's the fact that I catch myself even doing it like
- 4:47[SPEAKER_05]: Kelsey is so consistent and we're so used to it that we forget it but you're getting twenty is like no big deal and we don't think of a whistle we really need to start putting her in the conversation of star player on the fever you know what I mean I mean she is she's really she's been a great player since I mean she's only played with the fever she's been a great player since they drafted her um for me I realized that because like I said I follow women's basketball for
- 5:11[SPEAKER_01]: before heck I was watching it back when the Houston comments and Cynthia Cooper and Cheryl swoops and Tina taught you know and then the sparks would please let's it but anyway I just think it's one of those things that we need to draw attention and bring attention to the fact that Ali that Kelsey's been playing fantastic basketball and like almost no one really mentions it's an afterthought after the lens or it's an after and like she's been playing great she has and like you know I said that the last time I think we talked is what I love watching Kelsey because it's like Stephanie White has found a way to use
- 5:41[SPEAKER_01]: all of her assets.
- 5:43[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, when she first came to the fever, she, that she was mainly perimeter.
- 5:48[SPEAKER_01]: She would get it.
- 5:49[SPEAKER_01]: She could drive, but shoot the threes, but Stephanie's now put her down on the baseline and on the wing and running sets where she's cutting back door, making baseline cuts.
- 5:57[SPEAKER_05]: And her feet is so good.
- 5:59[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, she beats at her first step is going to be every defender in the W NBA.
- 6:04[SPEAKER_01]: That's how fast she is.
- 6:05[SPEAKER_01]: And they're letting her to leak out on fast, you know, fast breaks now, you know, for transition offense.
- 6:12[SPEAKER_01]: She's finally got, I think, a coach and a staff that is showcasing or utilizing that athleticism and that quitness.
- 6:20[SPEAKER_01]: And we know her stroke is good.
- 6:25[SPEAKER_01]: She is underrated and her defense is stepped up.
- 6:28[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she's elevated her defense one whole level from a year ago to this year.
- 6:32[SPEAKER_01]: She's actually, you can see she actually enjoys playing defense as well.
- 6:35[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm just glad she came back.
- 6:36[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there was questions about whether she was going to resign with the fever last at the last season.
- 6:40[SPEAKER_05]: I'm so glad she's back because honestly, she's been the most consistent piece.
- 6:44[SPEAKER_01]: And I will say, I will say this.
- 6:46[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't know if they hadn't made it.
- 6:48[SPEAKER_01]: If they had not made a coaching change, I don't know that Kelsey Mitchell would have come back.
- 6:51[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not willing to speculate on that because I have no information either way.
- 6:55[SPEAKER_05]: Like, that's what we do, John.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
- 6:57[SPEAKER_01]: But no, I mean, because I think she knew, I think she wanted a coach that could, that had a system.
- 7:03[SPEAKER_01]: And offense, something that we're could take her, take her abilities.
- 7:07[SPEAKER_01]: And I think when she first came to the WME, I think White was the coach when she first drafted.
- 7:13[SPEAKER_01]: So bring on her back.
- 7:16[SPEAKER_01]: is, you know, it's really, I mean, it's a good thing.
- 7:19[SPEAKER_01]: And so, and I think that's it because I think she knew she had it.
- 7:22[SPEAKER_05]: Coach, it was gonna have a, I think she just liked playing with Caitlyn and I thought she was gonna come.
- 7:27[SPEAKER_05]: I think she like, I don't think there was, I don't think that that was that much of a factor.
- 7:31[SPEAKER_05]: I just don't see it, but, you know, I could be wrong.
- 7:33[SPEAKER_05]: I've been wrong one to twice.
- 7:34[SPEAKER_05]: You have?
- 7:36[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe.
- 7:36[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I will say this.
- 7:39[SPEAKER_01]: If you think she, I don't think she ever thought that Chris Besides was going to get him to WNBA championship.
- 7:44[SPEAKER_01]: Well, nobody thought.
- 7:45[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 7:45[SPEAKER_01]: So I think when she knew that Stephanie one got a coach that had a system and had a potential to get him to the championship because Kelsey Mitchell could have probably signed with, you know, two or three other teams and had a shot.
- 7:57[SPEAKER_01]: Also, I'm, I'm ecstatic that she's back with the fear that she resigned with the fever.
- 8:03[SPEAKER_01]: I was
- 8:04[SPEAKER_05]: I was concerned she would not and so well again we got the win last night it was ugly but we we also have a balanced attack we have five players and double digits which we've said the whole time if they can do that they're going to win games
- 8:19[SPEAKER_05]: Natasha Howard went for a team with thirteen rebounds so a really strong double double after she is made for nine from the field right I don't have that pulled up, but yeah, I think it was it was a shot really well and the thing with her is she's found how to fit within I think that was the thing like she's a strong player on her own and her own system that she was in before but she was struggling under the fever system and now she's found
- 8:43[SPEAKER_05]: How to fit and it's and that's really paying dividends You know who else I've been really impressed with except that their game is selfie-cutting him.
- 8:51[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, so if he's been huge fan favorite just for a personality she's hilarious I like the way she carries herself But you know after her ankle injury she wasn't producing a lot on the field or on the floor She's starting to really come through and and give us some numbers so eleven three and one last night, but just being out there she's a
- 9:09[SPEAKER_05]: She's causing some distractions to the defense.
- 9:11[SPEAKER_05]: I think Sophie's really coming into her own too.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I do too.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she's she feels comfortable.
- 9:16[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she puts the floor earlier when she first came up and everything.
- 9:20[SPEAKER_01]: She was kind of standing around outside the three and take the reason didn't really know her fit.
- 9:26[SPEAKER_01]: now that she's back healthy and everything you can see she's putting the ball on the floor and driving and finishing at the rim or driving and dishing she's still good with the three you know coming off ready to catch and shoot and defensively she's really she's made a big difference too I just I like Sophie coming here my I love what she brings to the fever off
- 9:48[SPEAKER_01]: off the bench.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think it's, they, you need that you need somebody that, uh, like a T. J. McConnell.
- 9:56[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, all right, we said, we're not all this kind of like that, too.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but that's what you get.
- 10:02[SPEAKER_01]: I think probably maybe kind of like a T. J. McConnell and Badmathering type thing is what you're doing.
- 10:07[SPEAKER_05]: She's kind of a blend of the two.
- 10:08[SPEAKER_05]: She's got the attitude, but she also brings the energy from the fan favorite side.
- 10:12[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I agree with all that.
- 10:15[SPEAKER_05]: So then Alia Boston, uh, kind of a special day in Boston, you know, she was talking about some investments and they were respecting her there.
- 10:22[SPEAKER_05]: Kind of expected a big game out of her from all of that, but maybe all of that stuff wore out because she, I mean, she had a good game.
- 10:27[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to say she had a bad game, but she, not one of her best cultural, yeah.
- 10:32[SPEAKER_01]: It can be because when you're in there and then you have to start thinking because you're monitoring, so you don't file out early.
- 10:39[SPEAKER_01]: It takes away and you're not in the flow plus if you have to sit a lot on the bench and you don't get into to the flow.
- 10:46[SPEAKER_03]: You definitely cannot be as aggressive for sure.
- 10:48[SPEAKER_05]: When she got punched in the face, she got punched in the face and it wasn't a value-weighted for a player.
- 10:52[SPEAKER_05]: That one made me mad but we don't have to spend too much time on it.
- 10:59[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying it's violent.
- 11:01[SPEAKER_05]: It was violent yesterday.
- 11:02[SPEAKER_05]: We knew going into the Connecticut game that it was going to get ugly.
- 11:05[SPEAKER_05]: Because you know, the last time they played was the brawl multi-rolls.
- 11:08[SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, I'm not, I understand why people are upset about the way Caitlin's being handled.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_03]: The thing I'll say about is the only team that I've seen that's been actually dirty.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_03]: Just to get it.
- 11:20[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
- 11:21[SPEAKER_05]: I almost wanted Caitlin to not even play last night because I knew it was going to get ugly.
- 11:24[SPEAKER_05]: Like I just had a feeling it was going to get ugly.
- 11:26[SPEAKER_05]: And it did.
- 11:27[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you know, but I do think it's good to I wanted to highlight everybody on the team because it really has been a team.
- 11:35[SPEAKER_05]: When they're playing well, everybody's doing well.
- 11:37[SPEAKER_05]: It's not it's easy to focus on Caitlyn because she's the saw right.
- 11:41[SPEAKER_05]: She is the star that everyone in the country is watching.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_05]: There's people that watch for her that don't even care about the fever.
- 11:46[SPEAKER_05]: So you have to talk about her.
- 11:47[SPEAKER_03]: You said you brought up everybody on the team and you haven't even brought up Lexi hold it.
- 11:51[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but here's John and here's what I'm going to say because I want to go back to Sophie coming up with Lexi.
- 11:59[SPEAKER_01]: I believe and I told you this for a while back.
- 12:02[SPEAKER_01]: I believe Lexi Hall is not one hundred percent
- 12:05[SPEAKER_05]: I think you're right.
- 12:05[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, she's got that whole leg warm thing on her on her leg.
- 12:10[SPEAKER_01]: She, you know, we talked about Caitlyn get it beat up.
- 12:12[SPEAKER_01]: Lexi gets beat up because Lexi gets beat up a lot because of having to run through and all at the screens because of who she's defending Lexi is like the toughest cookie on it.
- 12:20[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, you know, she is, but so Sophie stepping up on the defensive has been
- 12:26[SPEAKER_01]: huge for them because it's allowed Stephanie not to have to over you and I think she's been good at managing Lexi's minutes here if she's not a hundred percent and the elevated play of Sophie has allowed that to happen.
- 12:40[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think they're going to they're going to kind of be like a committee Sophie and Lexi are kind of interchangeable.
- 12:46[SPEAKER_05]: They're just going to play the same roll back and forth.
- 12:48[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's how it's working out.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_05]: Now obviously Lexi's my favorite player.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_05]: We, you know, I have to say that every podcast but
- 12:54[SPEAKER_05]: She had a quiet night, I do think she's hurt.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_05]: Before we move on to the other news, I do want to talk about Timson, only got six minutes, but the minute she's been getting, I've looked pretty good.
- 13:04[SPEAKER_05]: So I think she's developing pretty well, and I think that long term.
- 13:08[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a, you could say the same thing about, about Dante's.
- 13:13[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she's obviously, I've been playing really well.
- 13:16[SPEAKER_05]: I've got silver medal in the Feeba world games.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_05]: I haven't seen anything bad out of her.
- 13:22[SPEAKER_05]: I just think that the other two they didn't get a lot of minutes last night because it was such a close scrappy game.
- 13:27[SPEAKER_05]: I think Stephanie doesn't like to put the people in for too long to kill momentum even our only played ten minutes.
- 13:33[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so it's just one of those things like Whether it's the fans yelling at her because every time that you know
- 13:41[SPEAKER_05]: that that's the thing that like it would be hard as a coach and I'm sure stuffy's it's definitely white's above all this but like as a coach people are constantly complaining about your rotations when you don't have Caitlin in or you don't have whatever and you lose let the other team want to run but like you got to be able to trust your bench right and and I think she can I think the players are good enough she can but it's just uh... they didn't get a lot of minutes last night because it was a scrappy ugly win
- 14:05[SPEAKER_01]: And think about this too.
- 14:06[SPEAKER_01]: She's probably back to back last night tonight.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_01]: And in her mind and her staff's mind, they're trying to figure out minutes and to be honest, Connecticut is the liberty is the better team.
- 14:20[SPEAKER_01]: The Connecticut is the more.
- 14:22[SPEAKER_01]: physical kind of dirty team agreed and so you're leaving probably your starters out there a little bit more because that's who you want and that even though people say that they're more apt to get injured yeah but they also can handle themselves it the physical files are being called yes now when you're going to go with the liberty that you can run you know kinetic is not a team that's going to run they're not a transition team more hardcore so you want this
- 14:48[SPEAKER_05]: liberty can get out transition so tonight the bench it's a better match up to you know to use that that makes sense well and everything is I think you feel like liberty respect the fever as the team and Connecticut there's a lot left there's no love loss between those teams I mean I don't want to like New York but that seems kind of hard not to lie yeah I agree like you know they they do it the right way they're classy they have respect they want to win and they'll beat you down but they're not going to do it like
- 15:12[SPEAKER_05]: in dirty way.
- 15:13[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they have to really, I mean, you look at it.
- 15:16[SPEAKER_01]: They have two really great players.
- 15:17[SPEAKER_01]: They also have other good, I mean, more than that.
- 15:20[SPEAKER_01]: But they have a lot of pressure cloud to head liners in Sabrina and Brittany.
- 15:24[SPEAKER_01]: Brianna, sorry, Brianna.
- 15:26[SPEAKER_01]: And then you had Natasha cloud and John Kel Jones.
- 15:29[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's who.
- 15:30[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 15:31[SPEAKER_01]: So you had then the fever.
- 15:32[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's great.
- 15:33[SPEAKER_01]: I do think it's really great.
- 15:35[SPEAKER_03]: match up on a really good way to measure yourself.
- 15:39[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
- 15:39[SPEAKER_03]: New York.
- 15:40[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a fun game.
- 15:41[SPEAKER_01]: I mean those are the games that for the WNBA that to me those are the games that you really want to make sure our own major network.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you can because they have.
- 15:53[SPEAKER_01]: They're good.
- 15:53[SPEAKER_01]: It's the well played.
- 15:54[SPEAKER_01]: It's they play basketball.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_05]: Well, the problem is, well, if they put it on tonight.
- 15:59[SPEAKER_05]: So let's get to that.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_05]: That was a good segue.
- 16:03[SPEAKER_05]: Are they going to get what they want?
- 16:04[SPEAKER_03]: So the only thing that's really been said about it through the fever is Stephanie White kind of downplayed the injury doesn't think it's serious felt a little something.
- 16:15[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's what was said she was going to be evaluated and said she's going to be evaluated the guesses tonight what tonight Wednesday man when it's not the school year I just never remember what day that we get is it's Wednesday
- 16:31[SPEAKER_03]: doubtful, right?
- 16:32[SPEAKER_03]: You've got to say I'm not clear I would not play.
- 16:36[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I would not either show how would you approach it not knowing exactly the severity of the injury.
- 16:41[SPEAKER_03]: How would you approach it?
- 16:42[SPEAKER_01]: Approach it.
- 16:42[SPEAKER_01]: Why is the opposing coach?
- 16:44[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, as they head coach is the person making the decision.
- 16:48[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not a planner because here's the thing.
- 16:52[SPEAKER_01]: The end of the season is that's the end game.
- 16:54[SPEAKER_01]: All story we can none of that this game with that doesn't it does not matter.
- 16:58[SPEAKER_01]: Caitlyn Clark being healthy.
- 17:00[SPEAKER_01]: Come playoff time is what is the most important for the fever for the fever for the
- 17:08[SPEAKER_05]: I think we have to discuss this.
- 17:11[SPEAKER_05]: We have to look at different people have different.
- 17:14[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but if I'm taking it from the fever, I'm taking it from sure no agree for ratings for this weekend.
- 17:19[SPEAKER_03]: So what I'm doing is.
- 17:23[SPEAKER_01]: I am not playing no matter what because you the game was on the road last night, so you get in a light flight, you've been on a flight and we don't know when he's sitting on the flight and they're playing.
- 17:35[SPEAKER_01]: It's not luxury.
- 17:36[SPEAKER_05]: She's going to be tight.
- 17:37[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to be tight.
- 17:38[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not I'm not planner.
- 17:40[SPEAKER_01]: We treat her everything and my I'm sitting here thinking
- 17:45[SPEAKER_01]: She is not playing, and it may be a situation, though I don't think she should do the three point contest.
- 17:51[SPEAKER_01]: It may be a situation that they don't want her playing, but she may end up doing the three point contest just to check out Baleigh and not play in the all-star game.
- 18:00[SPEAKER_03]: or play a couple of minutes.
- 18:02[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or not.
- 18:03[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe one contest and play.
- 18:05[SPEAKER_01]: Start the all-star game and play two or three minutes just to get it and then come out and not play.
- 18:09[SPEAKER_05]: If I'm Caitlin, I want to start the game, take a shot or whatever, and then come off just so you can see you started.
- 18:14[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
- 18:15[SPEAKER_05]: That has to happen, I think.
- 18:17[SPEAKER_03]: for ratings alone.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_01]: But only if she's capable of cutting off and off, and then she doesn't even need to do that.
- 18:24[SPEAKER_05]: They've done this before we're like, they put people in, they let the take the tip, they give her the ball, they let her shoot, she walks off, take a time out, she walks off.
- 18:31[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, but do you really think some of those other NBA star stars are going to be that that they're headed to?
- 18:37[SPEAKER_05]: I think that they can agree both sides.
- 18:39[SPEAKER_05]: Like I think that people will be mad, like I think the lot, something like that.
- 18:43[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
- 18:44[SPEAKER_05]: I think that they let her do it.
- 18:45[SPEAKER_03]: She's probably well enough to jog up and down the court three times.
- 18:48[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, well, no, I mean, because the, here's the thing, you know, now I have, I have been blessed.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_01]: I have not had a, uh, a quad, uh, I've strained my hamstrings before a little bit, but not severe for a drawing.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_01]: My knees had a rendered drawing plane asked about them at a school, and then she tore her hamstring not once but twice.
- 19:14[SPEAKER_01]: once in high school months after.
- 19:15[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is, those kind of injuries, they are very painful in them.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_01]: And you require, yes.
- 19:24[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, because you wrap herself up, yes, but you even Caitlin has to ask herself.
- 19:30[SPEAKER_05]: Well, when your body starts to compensate, which leads to more injuries.
- 19:33[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 19:33[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe that's why she got injured last night.
- 19:35[SPEAKER_01]: I think she, I think, is watching her.
- 19:39[SPEAKER_01]: that the last few games and some of those things when she goes, I believe she's been protecting her left leg, the left quad, the left growing, and I think of what it's done is, and I'll tell you that you often can enter the other leg by protecting the weak leg, and I think that that's kind of what happened to her last night.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_03]: Johnny feels the same way.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think that she needs to take some time off.
- 20:03[SPEAKER_05]: I think that it's both that there's two, there's a lot of war in the gunshot with Tyre's, aren't we?
- 20:09[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think that's fair.
- 20:10[SPEAKER_05]: I think, you know, you see what happened in Cairo Tyre's and Caitlin are so similar in the way they play and the way that you know.
- 20:16[SPEAKER_05]: and we saw with Kobe Bryant and we saw with Kevin Durant they had injuries they tried to play through and worse things happened and I think that like you know Caitlyn is the core as much as you know we want to respect all the other players and their other players are great Caitlyn is what's bringing the eyes to the WMBA yes like she one hundred percent of that without downplaying how great are the people are Caitlyn is bringing the eyes she's the best player no but she's probably not popular yes that's it she is the most popular
- 20:46[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna have to disagree with you guys there.
- 20:48[SPEAKER_03]: She's not the most popular player.
- 20:50[SPEAKER_03]: She's more popular than every other player combined.
- 20:53[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I agree with you.
- 20:55[SPEAKER_05]: And the thing that I like to point out is, even if you don't like Caitlin Clark, let's just imagine you live in a world where you don't like Caitlin Clark.
- 21:02[SPEAKER_03]: She didn't play for the fever I wouldn't.
- 21:04[SPEAKER_05]: And that's fair, but I'm saying like a magic, but people are tuning in for Caitlin Clark and learning about other players.
- 21:10[SPEAKER_05]: Right, you know, I probably wouldn't be as deep as invested in the NBA WMBA as I am, because I mean, I took my daughter every now and then for years, but I didn't know who the players were.
- 21:19[SPEAKER_05]: I was going to now.
- 21:19[SPEAKER_05]: I know every player on almost every team because
- 21:23[SPEAKER_05]: It's become exciting.
- 21:24[SPEAKER_05]: It's she's a show.
- 21:25[SPEAKER_05]: It's the brand of basketball she brings.
- 21:27[SPEAKER_01]: If you're outside the states of Connecticut and Tennessee, yes, you're learning about it, but I can tell you those two states.
- 21:34[SPEAKER_01]: They do some players.
- 21:36[SPEAKER_01]: They've all known who the bed, the good players are in the WMBA through the years.
- 21:40[SPEAKER_01]: What you're right for the rest of it.
- 21:42[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, there's law I can tell you I'm I cannot tell you how many people I've talked to this said I didn't care about WMBA I didn't know who any of the players are I started for Katelyn, but now I'm invested in a Lea Boston or Kelsey Mitchell or even Asia Wilson or whoever so page pay yeah, I'm just saying that like that's and women's college basketball popularity has grown because sure so you may have run up a good point about Tennessee
- 22:09[SPEAKER_05]: And we're going to talk about the expansion team in Portland here in a minute.
- 22:11[SPEAKER_05]: So I was watching a podcast last night where the someone who's not a sports podcast or they were just a news podcaster and the narrative of this news podcast was kind of that the players are entitled and they want all this stuff for collective bargaining and they don't deserve it and blah, blah, blah.
- 22:28[SPEAKER_05]: right because collective bargaining is coming up and uh... the point the lady was making was that so fee said she didn't want to play in the troit and didn't want to play in cleaver remember that comment about a week or so go and uh... the news anchor was saying that just shows how entitled they are because they don't want to play in specific cities and then they were talking about that i don't want to work in detroiter cleaver so i'm not entitled well the reason that the but bring this back to what Michelle said is the news anchor was saying would a team even go in tenancy and i had to pause it for a minute because
- 22:58[SPEAKER_05]: My wife and I were discussing like Tennessee has a huge following in women's basketball.
- 23:02[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I do.
- 23:02[SPEAKER_05]: One time it was the capital of the world.
- 23:05[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
- 23:05[SPEAKER_01]: And they will tell you, Tennessee women's basketballs had a higher attendance than the men's basketball team did.
- 23:11[SPEAKER_01]: Forever.
- 23:11[SPEAKER_05]: For a long time.
- 23:12[SPEAKER_05]: So, but the point I was making to my wife, as I said, people outside of the world of women's sports and women's basketball don't realize that Tennessee and Nashville is a massive fandom from women's basketball.
- 23:23[SPEAKER_05]: So, we have a lot of people reporting on this stuff.
- 23:25[SPEAKER_05]: We really just don't know the culture.
- 23:28[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that's what urks me to it.
- 23:29[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just even like news, but even when you get some of these guys like Gilbert Arinas and some of these other male athletes piping in.
- 23:39[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you just need to shut up because you don't know.
- 23:41[SPEAKER_01]: You haven't watched you research before you open your mouth.
- 23:44[SPEAKER_05]: I agree with you to a degree and I disagree somewhat because when you want to be a big sport, when you want to be in the big leagues, you have to be willing to take some of that.
- 23:53[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I'm not saying the criticism.
- 23:54[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about them when they when they talk and I hear something that's so erroneous that had they just looked it up.
- 24:01[SPEAKER_03]: They could know a lot of the same things we didn't know what we were talking about.
- 24:04[SPEAKER_03]: I would never.
- 24:05[SPEAKER_03]: If there were bad takes in sports there'd be almost no take.
- 24:08[SPEAKER_03]: It's right, right?
- 24:09[SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, when you watch any other league, there's lots of idiot fans on social media.
- 24:13[SPEAKER_03]: I never know as much as I think I know that I act like I know.
- 24:17[SPEAKER_05]: So I made that that point too.
- 24:20[SPEAKER_05]: I said you have to be willing.
- 24:21[SPEAKER_05]: These players have to be willing to take some of the criticism.
- 24:24[SPEAKER_05]: They have to be willing to just accept stupid fans and bless them in that noise.
- 24:27[SPEAKER_03]: They're way too thin skinned in the WMBA right now.
- 24:30[SPEAKER_05]: But fans do.
- 24:31[SPEAKER_05]: But that's just talks about the expansion.
- 24:33[SPEAKER_05]: Like with that expansion, you're going to get more fans.
- 24:36[SPEAKER_05]: If you, you know, if the fandom continues to grow as it has been and like there's questions about whether this wave will continue or whether it's a fan that dies out, right?
- 24:44[SPEAKER_05]: Correct.
- 24:44[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is a... I still sit there and say though, I cannot believe and I know they want the ties in the NBA cities, but I still can't believe with the ownership group for that Tennessee, Peyton Manning, Candice Parker,
- 25:00[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty hard to win.
- 25:02[SPEAKER_01]: There's no reason you can't talk to the Memphis Grizzlies.
- 25:06[SPEAKER_01]: I know, and I'm saying they're going just those people are willing back.
- 25:10[SPEAKER_01]: They're popular in their own right now.
- 25:11[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, I'm like, they would bring just credibility if they're there.
- 25:16[SPEAKER_05]: And the thing people will just be able to try to get their autographs before I said, even as someone who doesn't like Peyton Manning, that it was still silly to deny that to Tennessee because that would bring so much.
- 25:27[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, I'm not a Peyton Manning guy.
- 25:29[SPEAKER_03]: I was wrong with you.
- 25:30[SPEAKER_05]: You are banished.
- 25:32[SPEAKER_05]: That is a discussion for a different day.
- 25:34[SPEAKER_05]: But I still say with Peyton Manning and Tennessee and the women's basketball fandom and Tennessee and the country music time, you're gonna get people there.
- 25:42[SPEAKER_05]: You're gonna fill the stadiums.
- 25:44[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, think about it.
- 25:45[SPEAKER_01]: Former lady, the most famous former lady of all, I would price a Candice Parker's number one and to make it catchings is probably number two.
- 25:56[SPEAKER_01]: As far as in being a success and everything that they've had in the league and Candice Parker is I mean, she's her own made her money in her own right.
- 26:03[SPEAKER_01]: She's got a lot of sponsorships, but then like paying manning.
- 26:07[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, beloved everywhere and then everybody likes to accept me.
- 26:10[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then like I said in the tip of it, yes, the one there, I'm sitting there going, I really thought that they would be the next.
- 26:20[SPEAKER_01]: expansion team just because of that.
- 26:22[SPEAKER_01]: It makes sense.
- 26:24[SPEAKER_05]: And I'll be even honest with you.
- 26:25[SPEAKER_05]: I thought that it was kind of silly to give expansion teams to cities that already had them and failed.
- 26:31[SPEAKER_05]: I thought that was silly, which brings us to you.
- 26:34[SPEAKER_03]: There's another option.
- 26:35[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
- 26:35[SPEAKER_05]: But that brings us to other WMBA news that we can cut to.
- 26:39[SPEAKER_05]: They announced the name of the new Portland team, the Portland Fire.
- 26:44[SPEAKER_05]: But you guys think about the logo and the branding of the poor.
- 26:47[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen the logo yet.
- 26:49[SPEAKER_05]: I'm also a dude.
- 26:49[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
- 26:51[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind the name of the fire.
- 26:53[SPEAKER_01]: To me, I honestly like simplified names if you if you can have them, especially for the WNBA because they they're making your mind here.
- 27:05[SPEAKER_03]: I get that.
- 27:06[SPEAKER_03]: The Valkyries was
- 27:08[SPEAKER_03]: is the coolest name in the league, and it was the most recent go with it, man.
- 27:12[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the boundaries.
- 27:14[SPEAKER_01]: Fire is just overused now.
- 27:16[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like the logo.
- 27:19[SPEAKER_01]: I think they could have done better.
- 27:20[SPEAKER_03]: I think there are so many cool things about Portland, Wi-Fi.
- 27:24[SPEAKER_01]: They're just one.
- 27:24[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have to understand?
- 27:25[SPEAKER_01]: They have the trailblazers.
- 27:26[SPEAKER_01]: They might have a chance.
- 27:27[SPEAKER_01]: They have the, is it, what is, they're, what, I can't remember what they're soccer.
- 27:31[SPEAKER_01]: They have soccer.
- 27:32[SPEAKER_01]: They have pro soccer there.
- 27:33[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, their original team was the poorly.
- 27:35[SPEAKER_05]: So you're bringing back a team that already existed.
- 27:36[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's just like resurrecting a former team.
- 27:39[SPEAKER_01]: Well, which means that I have the trade margin.
- 27:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's probably less.
- 27:41[SPEAKER_05]: But I think their one for three in the last three teams.
- 27:45[SPEAKER_05]: I think Toronto, Toronto, tempo is terrible.
- 27:49[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that is horrible.
- 27:50[SPEAKER_01]: And the total probably be of well received.
- 27:53[SPEAKER_05]: That's fine, but there were so many other ways they could have gone.
- 27:55[SPEAKER_05]: Tempo was done.
- 27:56[SPEAKER_05]: The colors were ugly.
- 27:57[SPEAKER_03]: Are they not allowed to end an S or team name?
- 28:01[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was better.
- 28:02[SPEAKER_05]: I was seriously thinking about that the other night when when I was.
- 28:05[SPEAKER_01]: But no, that could spark.
- 28:07[SPEAKER_01]: You had the spot.
- 28:07[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm not about the once most recently added.
- 28:10[SPEAKER_03]: There aren't very many.
- 28:11[SPEAKER_05]: And Sparkle, let me take a look at the favorite game that I went to last the most recent one.
- 28:17[SPEAKER_05]: I was sitting next to a lady from Toronto who brought her kids to a game in Indianapolis, and she was saying that she hated the tempo, and she hated the name.
- 28:25[SPEAKER_05]: And she was like, we'll go.
- 28:26[SPEAKER_05]: Now I will tell you that she was impressed with the crowd at Gamebridge Fieldhouse.
- 28:31[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's what we're talking about.
- 28:33[SPEAKER_05]: She was really, she said she's going to a ton of Connecticut games in Connecticut and various places.
- 28:38[SPEAKER_05]: I think they've gone to Dallas the week before.
- 28:41[SPEAKER_05]: And she said that, you know, seeing Gamebridge full for a game on a week night was crazy to her.
- 28:46[SPEAKER_05]: I go, this is every day.
- 28:47[SPEAKER_01]: Did she go watch where they had the, when they played, they played a next edition game in Toronto, and they had over thirteen.
- 28:52[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they sold it out.
- 28:53[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't ask because I was smaller, but she makes a small talk.
- 28:56[SPEAKER_05]: But like she was, she really was one of the things she said was, this is insane for WNBA.
- 29:00[SPEAKER_05]: And like that's just what I'm used to at this point.
- 29:02[SPEAKER_05]: It's right.
- 29:03[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
- 29:03[SPEAKER_03]: And like I said, there's no reason to not just say it out in the open.
- 29:09[SPEAKER_03]: She's more popular than every other player in the WWE.
- 29:12[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
- 29:13[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, there's some people, she's the most popular basketball player in the world.
- 29:16[SPEAKER_03]: And you can make that argument.
- 29:18[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's true, but it might be the most recognized, but she might be the most recognizable.
- 29:23[SPEAKER_03]: It's just amazing what she's done.
- 29:25[SPEAKER_03]: And she's done it because she's great, most of all.
- 29:30[SPEAKER_03]: But second of all, she thinks out every move she makes.
- 29:33[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 29:34[SPEAKER_03]: And she's a trash talker.
- 29:35[SPEAKER_03]: We love that.
- 29:36[SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't put up with anybody's crap.
- 29:38[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody loves that.
- 29:39[SPEAKER_03]: Would she's on your team?
- 29:40[SPEAKER_03]: Of course.
- 29:41[SPEAKER_03]: On the other team.
- 29:42[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
- 29:42[SPEAKER_01]: She likes to trash luck.
- 29:43[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't like to get trash talk to you.
- 29:45[SPEAKER_01]: She won't go away without her team.
- 29:47[SPEAKER_01]: She won't finish it.
- 29:50[SPEAKER_01]: She won't finish it.
- 29:51[SPEAKER_05]: She likes to get a jab in and turn it all away.
- 29:56[SPEAKER_05]: I want to know what the ref said to her last night that flipped the switch.
- 29:59[SPEAKER_05]: Did you guys see that highlight?
- 30:00[SPEAKER_05]: That was bad.
- 30:01[SPEAKER_05]: like she told him to grow up and like so here one of the one of the two of them it's a really bad look either her or the referee that's my think is like for her to not get tacked up for the way she was acting he had to have known that he screwed up to
- 30:17[SPEAKER_05]: or not necessarily I'm telling you she there are times she deserved to be picked up there were times she was there with you and you just did ever she was getting personal she got personal couple of times I said something across the line for her to not get tecked up with the way she was that that's my person is a bad look for one of them I know that because we know what she said we have no idea what the official so anyway
- 30:42[SPEAKER_05]: That's the expansion stuff.
- 30:44[SPEAKER_05]: We got what are you doing Friday Friday?
- 30:46[SPEAKER_05]: We are going downtown for the WMBA live convention center thing Caitlin's supposed to be there at some point don't know what time Page is supposed to be there don't know what time none of the times have been announced They just announced the players that are gonna be there so we've taken Bales daughter and my daughter and my wife and we're gonna go down and just do all the things so I'll send you guys
- 31:09[SPEAKER_05]: Great if we fun like the supposed to be on to interactive things to do in the convention center the way the tickets work you can buy a time slot for like three or four hours or whatever so you know I had this guess You know, so I went with the middle links.
- 31:22[SPEAKER_05]: I don't really want to wake up at eight in the morning anyways, so we're going from like one to four I think that's a good time to go because I think what you'll see is I
- 31:31[SPEAKER_01]: you'll see some I mean there'll be some people out that you'll get to see in that I'm sure some after dark but really even though I know they'll have a higher security presence if I'm in the city of Indianapolis I wouldn't be in and I don't want to be first thing in the morning but I want to be in and out for a good start
- 31:47[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I agree with you on that.
- 31:49[SPEAKER_05]: So that's Friday.
- 31:50[SPEAKER_05]: Thursday, Lexi's doing a meet and greet at the athletic women's... We should mention that Friday is the skills competition.
- 31:59[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, I'm not going to that.
- 32:02[SPEAKER_05]: I could have bought tickets.
- 32:03[SPEAKER_05]: I might still... Who knows?
- 32:04[SPEAKER_05]: I'm impulsive.
- 32:05[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you guys know that I'm very impulsive.
- 32:08[SPEAKER_05]: But for now we're just going to the what thing and then the skills competition.
- 32:14[SPEAKER_05]: There's no fever players in the skill competition.
- 32:17[SPEAKER_05]: which I kind of will say I thought you know you could put lots of different people in your Lexi and Sophie Lexi area anybody but no no fever players this year and then the three point contest and we'll see how that goes.
- 32:30[SPEAKER_01]: I will say this I don't know I want to give a shout out to the city of Indianapolis you know granted it's not a great place to be at night right now with everything that when we get zir going on but if there's it to me it's the best sports city
- 32:47[SPEAKER_01]: they do a great job and they have done yes they've done a great job of putting a bit of just the different all star players everything is so centrally located right there you the convention center you have a great look as well is not very far away you know
- 33:03[SPEAKER_01]: You can go down there.
- 33:05[SPEAKER_01]: You can find a place to part and everything's walking distance.
- 33:08[SPEAKER_03]: And you know the Indiana Sports Commission has done a being up jobs since nineteen eighty three bring in the Colts here and going from there.
- 33:16[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, since the Pacers got resurrected in the mid-eighties.
- 33:21[SPEAKER_03]: Um, when Reggie Miller was drafted in particular Chuck person, they started making a playoffs.
- 33:26[SPEAKER_03]: And now the NCAA being here and even back then they're very final fours back then.
- 33:33[SPEAKER_03]: Just an amazing job.
- 33:34[SPEAKER_05]: It's really we've been we've been down there during super blessing for the city.
- 33:38[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like, well, I've been down there doing Super Bowl.
- 33:40[SPEAKER_05]: I've been down there doing all star game.
- 33:42[SPEAKER_05]: I've been down there during the finals now.
- 33:44[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's all it's good.
- 33:45[SPEAKER_05]: You need to do a great job.
- 33:47[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm excited to go down and see some of the stuff.
- 33:52[SPEAKER_05]: We can talk about Saturday.
- 33:54[SPEAKER_05]: They have a parade.
- 33:55[SPEAKER_05]: My daughter's doing a parade where they have twenty five hundred girls dribbling from
- 34:00[SPEAKER_05]: One of the parks to the sub to the monument.
- 34:02[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't realize how far they were dreaming.
- 34:03[SPEAKER_01]: I was listening to it on the news yesterday.
- 34:05[SPEAKER_01]: Whoa.
- 34:05[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's pretty big deal.
- 34:07[SPEAKER_05]: So she'll be doing that.
- 34:09[SPEAKER_05]: I'll be down there for that.
- 34:10[SPEAKER_05]: It'll be exciting.
- 34:10[SPEAKER_05]: And then we'll probably just- He's a pretty big deal.
- 34:12[SPEAKER_05]: Who?
- 34:13[SPEAKER_05]: You're done.
- 34:13[SPEAKER_05]: I think so.
- 34:15[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you know, listen, I'm a- I gotta give her a shout out like so my wife and I were out playing pickle all last night with the boys and girls club when we get home into the second quarter.
- 34:25[SPEAKER_05]: And she's already got the game on him watching it.
- 34:27[SPEAKER_02]: I was so proud.
- 34:28[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, yes, I'm home.
- 34:30[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was so proud.
- 34:31[SPEAKER_05]: She was already watching the fever game.
- 34:33[SPEAKER_05]: Um, but yeah, so then then Saturday nights the all star game.
- 34:37[SPEAKER_05]: So that's the lot of the.
- 34:39[SPEAKER_05]: There's this clock right and it's on.
- 34:43[SPEAKER_05]: ABC so here's the question case he's been heard she wants to know and she's really wants to know she's been going crazy about she wants the the LED light up cork that the that that the NBA use for all story game a few years ago she was do you think they'll bring that do you think over that unlike I doubt it I doubt it but she wants it bad and I think they should I think that this would like if you're gonna do it this would be the year to make it the spectacle right yeah
- 35:08[SPEAKER_05]: but we'll see what happens.
- 35:10[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, yes, and I think it's gonna be a, it's gonna be a fantastic weekend.
- 35:16[SPEAKER_01]: I know there are a lot of people who I talked about that, the thousands and thousands of people that are gonna come into the city, just, you know, just to be in here for the atmosphere.
- 35:27[SPEAKER_01]: For the atmosphere and, you know, I'll say again, we talked about the venues, but downtown Indianapolis has great
- 35:34[SPEAKER_01]: places to eat and they have a variety all within walking distance too it's not like you have to go in and you have to pay you know kind of the outrageous prices that you would have to pay inside the venue at concessions there are some really cool restaurants that are right
- 35:50[SPEAKER_01]: restaurants bar what ever for you get some kill Roy's breadsticks if you're into them from out of town you know I mean yeah and there's just a lot of different places down there to enjoy your to enjoy yourself and you know they're gonna do there have entertainment and everything and I just I just think it's great Indianapolis knows how to put on a major production one on that same
- 36:15[SPEAKER_05]: page.
- 36:16[SPEAKER_05]: The fever is really trying to expand into an entertainment company even more than just a team because they're having the fever fast where they're bringing in musicians and their on comedians and they're having like a little mini concert festival thing.
- 36:27[SPEAKER_05]: I could manage of it.
- 36:29[SPEAKER_05]: I looked at the lineup.
- 36:30[SPEAKER_05]: I wasn't really interested in who was going to be good.
- 36:32[SPEAKER_01]: But I know I agree with that people that are into I should make a range of Caitlin all that you can I think the bat that's the one bad thing about the women's W and be a all-star game and trying to get in entertainment is because a lot of the way you really want the ticket sellers they've already had to set up their tours months in a you know in advance and so it's kind of hard sometimes to make it mesh Well, no, it can be I mean because it can be because you're doing a lot of weekend when you're I'm guessing that they've
- 37:01[SPEAKER_05]: tested the market and this is what the people want now that's what i'm guessing well yeah but i mean even in that kind of thing i'm just saying that i think it's easier to bring in something we have heard of them doesn't mean that's there the people don't want them well the one thing i'll say is if you have social set notifications for the players and the teams that you like whether it's the fever or not the fever right
- 37:22[SPEAKER_05]: And then there are going to be pop-up events around the city all weekend long.
- 37:27[SPEAKER_05]: I've already seen unrivaled, it's got a little pop-up shop that they're doing, which I'm not a big unrivaled fan, but for people that like it, that's cool.
- 37:34[SPEAKER_05]: I guarantee you the unrivaled players will be there at that place, so you can, if you want to meet them.
- 37:39[SPEAKER_05]: So just, that's my tip is just pay attention to all the socials of the people you like, because I guarantee you they're going to just like snap show up somewhere, and if you're in the area and you can get there, you'll get to meet your favorite players.
- 37:52[SPEAKER_01]: to and you know, the WNBA app is also going to be pretty good because they're going to try to put things out highlight everything available for sure.
- 38:01[SPEAKER_01]: But he's right.
- 38:02[SPEAKER_01]: It's great for this.
- 38:03[SPEAKER_05]: A lot of times it's pop up stuff.
- 38:06[SPEAKER_01]: So follow your others, but I'm talking about you and other for the big events, festivals, ticket availability, times update.
- 38:14[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that
- 38:15[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's just like yesterday I saw a pop-up that Lexi's gonna be at that thing on Thursday at the athletic store.
- 38:20[SPEAKER_05]: My daughter loves athletic and Lexi, so guess who has to go to that now.
- 38:24[SPEAKER_05]: Has to.
- 38:25[SPEAKER_05]: No, listen, John.
- 38:28[SPEAKER_05]: I'll go to a lot of stuff, but this one I may let my wife take her to.
- 38:32[SPEAKER_05]: You know, maybe my wife can take her to this one.
- 38:35[SPEAKER_05]: Really you're gonna miss you're gonna not gonna take the opportunity to take your jersey and have Lexi all my Lexi holders is your sign up and so many Lexi all thank you never signed three times that could be her Lexi all Lexi all Lexi all well we'll see you can get a selfie with her this time
- 38:50[SPEAKER_05]: I got lots of stuff.
- 38:51[SPEAKER_05]: Listen, every time Lexi's done a bit, I've been there, every single time.
- 38:55[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 38:55[SPEAKER_05]: This is one where I'm kind of like, I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 38:58[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:00[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:01[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:03[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:05[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:06[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:08[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:10[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:12[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:13[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:14[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:16[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I want to go spend time with women.
- 39:18[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know
- 39:19[SPEAKER_01]: I was, you know, I'm going to say that is one thing.
- 39:23[SPEAKER_01]: I've never chased anybody down for an autograph.
- 39:26[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've just never did it.
- 39:28[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, even when I was younger, I just never did it.
- 39:32[SPEAKER_03]: By point being Reggie Miller was not always very kind about handing out autographs.
- 39:37[SPEAKER_03]: He usually tried to get away from the kids.
- 39:40[SPEAKER_03]: You know, almost all of them were very nice about it.
- 39:44[SPEAKER_05]: I'll let's get into the one little B-five with Reggie because I think it's on the same same wavelength is I want to be able to buy a Reggie Miller jersey and he won't sign the contracts to let it be sold and that bothers me.
- 39:55[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't get why he won't because I even saw I think I saw you mentioned it, but I even think I saw on Twitter somebody had said that because he was wearing all those different jerseys and tweeted at him a picture of him.
- 40:08[SPEAKER_01]: And tweet and say, hey, maybe it doesn't like the deal.
- 40:10[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you move back?
- 40:11[SPEAKER_01]: It was me.
- 40:12[SPEAKER_05]: I was the one that tweeted it.
- 40:13[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, but I think I may have seen somebody else or two because I knew I love Reggie.
- 40:18[SPEAKER_05]: Just for the record love Reggie support Reggie and all this stuff, but that's the one thing I absolutely I wish you would admit it.
- 40:23[SPEAKER_03]: I've met Reggie many times and I
- 40:26[SPEAKER_03]: Let's just say, Reggie Miller and I would not be friends.
- 40:28[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, that's the same reason I feel the way I do about Peyton Manning.
- 40:32[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
- 40:34[SPEAKER_03]: For what he did for me, Reggie Miller still my all time.
- 40:37[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
- 40:39[SPEAKER_03]: I have issues with I had beefs with him from as a media member.
- 40:43[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
- 40:44[SPEAKER_03]: But for what he did for me as a fan, I don't care.
- 40:47[SPEAKER_03]: That's fair.
- 40:47[SPEAKER_03]: He's my all time favorite and no one unless someone brings the patient as a championship he always will be.
- 40:52[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
- 40:55[SPEAKER_03]: All the great memories he gave me.
- 40:56[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care that he talked to me like I was second class.
- 41:01[SPEAKER_05]: I can't get past that stuff.
- 41:03[SPEAKER_05]: I get mad.
- 41:03[SPEAKER_05]: I hold grudges.
- 41:05[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I don't like Martin.
- 41:06[SPEAKER_01]: I said the only thing that this point he wants is I remember Roger Borders told me once he had gotten a bar star autographed for me.
- 41:12[SPEAKER_01]: He'd been somewhere.
- 41:14[SPEAKER_01]: And he couldn't find it.
- 41:17[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he had him signed something, and he couldn't find it.
- 41:20[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I am so sorry because I wanted to bring that back for you to surprise.
- 41:24[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, I'm not sure I may have laid it aside when I went to college.
- 41:30[SPEAKER_01]: But I said, you know, that's because he knew that actually Bart Starr is a reason I'm a Packers fan, but not necessarily because of Bart Starr.
- 41:39[SPEAKER_01]: It's because of Bart.
- 41:41[SPEAKER_01]: was a package fam because of barge star because when your name is barge you get named by the fact he heard that a lot that we know of growing up and so we're going with this anyway was going to say is he wrote a letter bar star on bar star answered him and that is why he did and so my cousin barge four years older than me I did was kind of like my heart to know
- 42:02[SPEAKER_01]: Big brother and I I realize Bart Bart my cousin sure was still months older and we all hung out together when we our families got together, but so bar I'm a lifelong Packers fan because of that.
- 42:11[SPEAKER_01]: I was like Bart started to kind of because of that too, because I thought that was a work.
- 42:15[SPEAKER_01]: He made that a personal letter.
- 42:17[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think about the name and the different things.
- 42:19[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, this is why these leagues mandate
- 42:23[SPEAKER_03]: that players do this.
- 42:24[SPEAKER_05]: Well, agree.
- 42:25[SPEAKER_05]: And like I'll be honest, we'd be like Mike and should.
- 42:27[SPEAKER_05]: We met Lexi for the first time in an event last year.
- 42:31[SPEAKER_05]: And I said, well, she was so nice.
- 42:33[SPEAKER_05]: So then I started to pay more attention to her.
- 42:35[SPEAKER_05]: And then I became a giant fan down like the biggest Lexi fan.
- 42:38[SPEAKER_05]: But it started because they're being nice.
- 42:42[SPEAKER_05]: All right, well we've been kind of all over the place.
- 42:44[SPEAKER_05]: We've covered a lot of great topics.
- 42:45[SPEAKER_05]: I really think there's a which is good because there's a lot going on in the WNBA which is a positive sign, right?
- 42:49[SPEAKER_05]: Like there's a lot of things that people care about.
- 42:51[SPEAKER_05]: We can all agree that that's a post.
- 42:53[SPEAKER_05]: So tonight on WTHR, if you're local, you can watch the fever game.
- 42:58[SPEAKER_05]: It's available on local channels.
- 43:00[SPEAKER_05]: And that was Wednesday in case you're not Wednesday night.
- 43:04[SPEAKER_05]: Then it doesn't matter.
- 43:05[SPEAKER_05]: That's fair, but you know, if you made it this far, I don't know.
- 43:09[SPEAKER_05]: But what favorite ignite, we all hope Caitlyn's out correct.
- 43:12[SPEAKER_05]: We hope she's at sitting.
- 43:13[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 43:14[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I hope for her for the benefit of the fever and the benefit of her.
- 43:18[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, I hope she's sitting.
- 43:19[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
- 43:20[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I mean, I think it'll be tough to get that win against Liberty without her, but I have faith that they can do it.
- 43:27[SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully, Aeri plays well.
- 43:29[SPEAKER_05]: you know, and it'll be fine.
- 43:31[SPEAKER_05]: And then I think it's clear New York's the best team in the league.
- 43:33[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it's very close.
- 43:34[SPEAKER_05]: No, I agree with you, one hundred percent on the, I think New York is the best team.
- 43:37[SPEAKER_05]: And it's like I said earlier, it's hard to dislike them, but like, you know, they are the best team.
- 43:42[SPEAKER_05]: But I honestly go into this game with if we lose we lose.
- 43:47[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I think that's just how I go into this game mentality as a fan.
- 43:50[SPEAKER_05]: We go into this game tonight, we lose, we lose, we lose, whatever, get to all star break and then move on with our lives.
- 43:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's all sort of made it enjoy the weekend and then look forward to the second half of the NBA or W NBA season to use me and you know we shouldn't have an idea after this we sometime this weekend ever this weekend where Caitlin Clark's health status is Michelle, what are you looking forward to the all-star game assuming Caitlin doesn't play you know or plays limited many
- 44:21[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking for it.
- 44:22[SPEAKER_00]: I know they've proved make these entertainment and that's fine because not every fan that comes to the all-star game is looking for as a hardcore basketball fan.
- 44:32[SPEAKER_00]: Their celebrities is why they're coming.
- 44:35[SPEAKER_00]: So what I'm looking for though is I would like to see it be
- 44:41[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't want to I don't want to see him like walking or giving any you know letting fans this fancy let's play make it for the love of all this holy do not make it like the NBA all started just unwatchable yes and you know here's the thing if if think about this if
- 45:03[SPEAKER_01]: like Michael Dorn was still playing NBA all start wouldn't happen to that.
- 45:06[SPEAKER_03]: No, would not.
- 45:07[SPEAKER_01]: Or he would have not.
- 45:07[SPEAKER_03]: Very bird magic Johnson.
- 45:09[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they would have just never would have played it.
- 45:13[SPEAKER_05]: Well, if you look at last year's all star game, it meant something because it was Olympics versus all stars and they played.
- 45:18[SPEAKER_05]: They played hard.
- 45:19[SPEAKER_03]: So like I think that's what we're going to see on Saturday.
- 45:22[SPEAKER_05]: I hope so, I hope it's entertaining.
- 45:24[SPEAKER_05]: It's a show, right?
- 45:25[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I just want to see good, exciting, entertaining basketball.
- 45:28[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't have to be like hyper-competitive necessarily, but eighty percent defense for the first three and a half.
- 45:33[SPEAKER_05]: For the loss of God, make your layups if you're in the, in the, in the, in the, okay.
- 45:37[SPEAKER_01]: It's the place on team basketball.
- 45:39[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
- 45:39[SPEAKER_01]: Just come down and just jack up a shot.
- 45:41[SPEAKER_01]: I would jack up a shot.
- 45:43[SPEAKER_05]: I just want to see them kind of silence the major things that people who don't watch use as their bullet points for why they hate the WMBA.
- 45:52[SPEAKER_05]: Like people aren't making layups and people aren't doing this.
- 45:54[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah that happens.
- 45:56[SPEAKER_05]: But it's not the majority of the WMBA.
- 45:59[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I had to laugh because I've heard that, right?
- 46:02[SPEAKER_01]: Playoff games.
- 46:03[SPEAKER_01]: I was sitting there going, okay, I think it was a pastry game.
- 46:06[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I can't remember who they were playing.
- 46:08[SPEAKER_01]: But between both teams, they were like eight straight possessions.
- 46:11[SPEAKER_01]: We're no one made shot with a five-feet.
- 46:13[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
- 46:13[SPEAKER_01]: And they would be lamb-lasting the WNBA fed up.
- 46:17[SPEAKER_05]: But what someone's looking for that, because they're looking for reasons to validate their opinion that they already hold rather than be willing to change their mind, stop giving them reasons.
- 46:27[SPEAKER_03]: Let's be honest, the WNBA I'll expand that it's talent for a while.
- 46:31[SPEAKER_03]: And it's continuing to do so.
- 46:33[SPEAKER_03]: I think the talent's coming though, don't you think Michelle?
- 46:35[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I do.
- 46:36[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's way deeper in the younger level.
- 46:38[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of glad to see it's expanding because I'm also going to say this.
- 46:45[SPEAKER_01]: The United States USA, that woman's basketball program as a whole.
- 46:50[SPEAKER_01]: They are really doing well as far as getting
- 46:55[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, they are as far as getting younger people and put in the players and getting good coaches.
- 47:00[SPEAKER_05]: Michelle, they had the biggest fumble of all time by denying Caitlin Clark on the only one.
- 47:05[SPEAKER_01]: No, she couldn't point deep.
- 47:07[SPEAKER_01]: She was not every card to pick us along.
- 47:10[SPEAKER_01]: She did.
- 47:11[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm talking about not this long.
- 47:13[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about I think the younger and that's why the talent is so good.
- 47:17[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, talent has got and
- 47:20[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're bringing Don Staley's coach in the other group now Terry Terry mourn has served under some of them and now Terry mourns in in my out.
- 47:27[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're getting the good women's coaches are way better.
- 47:31[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and you're getting and women's coaches are getting way better.
- 47:35[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 47:36[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we gotta bring back Christie sides.
- 47:40[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks everybody.
- 47:43[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks so much to John Ann Michelle for joining the Central Indiana Sports Report and to you for listening.
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- 47:54[SPEAKER_03]: The Central Indiana Sports Report is a product of ITG media.
- 47:59[SPEAKER_03]: I love choosing.