Latest / The One Oʻahu Podcast with Mayor Rick Blangiardi / Mayor Blangiardi on a new Police Chief, a new Zoo Director, and the demolition of Aloha Stadium
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- 0:14welcome to the One O'ahu Podcast.
- 0:16I'm your host, Brandi Higa, and today is Thursday, June 11th, 2026.
- 0:21We're back this week with mayor Blangiardi and mayor.
- 0:25Since we last sat down with you, a lot has happened.
- 0:28You held your Mayors Memorial Day ceremony,
- 0:30a new zoo director was named more of aloha stadium came down.
- 0:34We broke ground and welcomed residents at a couple housing projects.
- 0:38But I want to start first with our new chief of police.
- 0:41Okay.
- 0:42What have your interactions been like so far with Chief Lazar?
- 0:45And what do you like about him?
- 0:47Well, we've, we've had several text exchanges.
- 0:50He'll be here next week.
- 0:51And I'll be meeting with him.
- 0:53I think I'll have his for his first meeting.
- 0:55He's going to be with me. And I'm really pleased.
- 0:56A great way to start off, you know, and he is also participate in a zoom call
- 1:00and, by at our weekly homeless meetings and, you know, and I think,
- 1:04David's been very, very gracious and he's, I think very excited that, you know,
- 1:09even though he had a long, distinguished career at the San
- 1:11Francisco Police Department, he's a young enough man.
- 1:13He's 55 years old that he really feels like it.
- 1:16Maybe in some ways, the way I did coming into this job at 74,
- 1:20that sort of all roads,
- 1:21no matter what you've done in the past, has sort of led to this moment in time.
- 1:24And he said everything right about this leadership challenge,
- 1:26what he wants to bring, in the way of not only what he's learned
- 1:29in all those years, but his desire to really do a great job.
- 1:33You know what I mean?
- 1:34It's been great.
- 1:35You know, I recommended, Mike Lambert after the interviews.
- 1:39But I certainly can promise you that after I interview David Lazar
- 1:43who was the second interview, I spent around the same exact
- 1:45amount of time with all three, when he left the office,
- 1:49not knowing because Mike was the last one that I interviewed.
- 1:52I'd love to have a second wife.
- 1:53You really work with this guy? This guy is a great selection.
- 1:55So hats off to Gary Peterson, the consulting firm that the commission
- 1:58hired, to develop the, if you will, the list that we had to interview.
- 2:03I'm grateful that I had a chance to meet all of them
- 2:05ahead of time and have discussions.
- 2:08And, you know,
- 2:09and now that David's got the job, we go forward.
- 2:12Honestly, all my interactions with him right now, I've been spot on.
- 2:15I mean, it's I'm really excited to be able to work with him.
- 2:18Yeah.
- 2:18He talked about, you know, the path that he wants to set for.
- 2:20But have you
- 2:21you know, on the flip side told him what kind of expectations you have
- 2:25that's going to be the meeting face to face or something.
- 2:27Things you do face to face I don't want to do via text
- 2:30or over a phone or even for that matter, a zoom call.
- 2:33There's a dynamic when, from a leadership standpoint, I've said throughout, look,
- 2:38this job, the leader of our police department,
- 2:41you know, some jobs are more equal than others.
- 2:45Everybody holds big responsibilities.
- 2:47I'm not denying that this particular role is really at the top of the list.
- 2:52And so, I want to start off with him on a face to face.
- 2:57That's just how I'd like to work.
- 2:59And I'm saving some of that for that first meeting.
- 3:01But there's been enough said back and forth, that I think
- 3:05we're going to be able to slip into a, that's a much agreement,
- 3:08but an understanding of each other on expectations.
- 3:13Another new member to a
- 3:14leadership position here at the city is in your zoo, director John Berry.
- 3:18Yeah. Why was he the right man for that job?
- 3:20You know, it's incredible sometimes, you know, you go through some things,
- 3:24you try to create possibilities, you stay open to possibilities,
- 3:27and you hope for the best in that scenario.
- 3:29Sure enough, that's exactly what happened here.
- 3:31You know, we had a change in our leadership at the zoo.
- 3:34Not easy to find. The zoo director.
- 3:36At least with the expectations we had, because we're looking at an entirely new
- 3:40chapter and, you know, for the zoo on a going forward basis
- 3:43and what it really means to our community. So,
- 3:47we did a national search.
- 3:48There were a number of people who were really good candidates.
- 3:52John Barry is just extraordinary off the charts,
- 3:54having had incredible experience, not just in in zoos.
- 3:58He ran the Smithsonian in Washington, which is the National
- 4:01Zoo, is a very big deal. It did it for a number of years.
- 4:04And he would tell you, by his own admission,
- 4:06that was his favorite job, whatever.
- 4:07But he had other big, big jobs, both, for President Clinton, President Biden,
- 4:12he was a he was a, you know, the consulate for Australia for a number of years,
- 4:16really, smart man, knowledgeable, deep.
- 4:22We had a very soulful discussion here about animals and how he feels about them.
- 4:27And, I think we just got really lucky here.
- 4:32We wanted to create something good.
- 4:34And every now and then, lady luck shines or light on you, you know? And.
- 4:38And we found the candidate who had moved to Hawaii a year ago, who was here,
- 4:45I think maybe somewhat enjoying retirement, but I can tell you
- 4:48is somebody who's for retirement for brief moments in my past,
- 4:52you sit there thinking, wow, I want to do something else I could be doing.
- 4:55Right.
- 4:56And, and so, we're lucky John Barry is going to be a great zoo director.
- 5:01He's just gotten started.
- 5:04But I can tell you that, I'm excited about the future of the zoo.
- 5:08I truly am excited because, as you've said here, we say it over and over again.
- 5:12I'll always say this.
- 5:12I put a premium on leadership, I really do.
- 5:15And if you have the right leaders, magical things happen.
- 5:18And that's what we've tried to assemble over the course of time
- 5:20and bring to the city, was leaders who understood what it meant
- 5:24to get results, drive, performance, collaborate, work together, have vision,
- 5:30who aren't afraid to take risk, all that stuff, it can
- 5:34look at things that, you know and different ways and say,
- 5:37you know, I talk a lot about intellectual capital.
- 5:39That's sort of like ideas. Ideas at work.
- 5:41And that's what you look for in people in this position.
- 5:43So John is going to be a great any.
- 5:45And not only that, he's really affable.
- 5:47I mean he's a really like he's one of those people you meet like
- 5:50in two minutes you feel like, wow, I like this guy. Yeah.
- 5:52He just has that style and that skill and really trained professional.
- 5:57A little bit behind the scenes.
- 5:59Mayor, you walked in this morning as we're getting ready to record this
- 6:02podcast, with, your pandas.
- 6:05What? What's the latest on that?
- 6:07And, you know, it's kind of appropriate, because what
- 6:09if your conversations been like with John Barry?
- 6:11Because DC does have their own.
- 6:13And John was involved
- 6:15going back to Chengdu, which is when I was with Hetty.
- 6:18We do this and this to Washington knows a lot about them.
- 6:22Agrees with our our pursuit, if you will, actually offered me
- 6:27an idea about red pandas, which are, you know, they're they're smaller.
- 6:30They're not the giant pandas.
- 6:33But they're so cute.
- 6:33They're incredible. Yeah.
- 6:34And and they're really, they're much more interactive with people than the giant.
- 6:37Yeah.
- 6:38There's a giant pandas awake, like, six hours a day.
- 6:40It's sleep 18, eat 100 people.
- 6:42They're awake long enough to eat.
- 6:44But anyway, we're gonna look at all of this.
- 6:46I think having.
- 6:47And I've already, notified China.
- 6:49That's how you happen to have the stuffed panda?
- 6:51In response, I, notified them of our hi of John.
- 6:56I did it through, Consul General Gao in Los Angeles, who's kind of my champion.
- 7:01Just, you know, touting his experience because that is serendipitous.
- 7:05It's another leg up in our pursuit here that even when I was in China recently,
- 7:10having the conversations with the leadership there
- 7:13and, and now having it on the desk of President XI because that's
- 7:16who makes the decision, to hire a guy with the experience.
- 7:22And actually, quite honestly.
- 7:24And what I also learned is they, that was watching was the first time
- 7:28they let pandas come to the United States.
- 7:30So there's a lot to that, too, and creating the precedent
- 7:33for them coming here.
- 7:34But we have a lot of work left to do.
- 7:36But we're making progress.
- 7:39I would just say for anybody who's eager, it's not an overnight thing.
- 7:43We have to go through a bit of a courtship here.
- 7:45Some other things, then have to also raise money once we get the final go.
- 7:50But we're moving closer to getting that authorization where we could then
- 7:54go into a different level of operation with respect to funding things.
- 7:58We're going to do it to, to make it a reality.
- 8:00I'm excited about this.
- 8:03Mayor from a ribbon cutting ceremony is Paul Lam
- 8:05to a groundbreaking ceremony with the Self-Help Housing Corporation.
- 8:09Strides continue to be made
- 8:11when it comes to creating truly affordable housing here on the wall.
- 8:14What do you like about these most recent projects?
- 8:18They're big.
- 8:19They're real. They're going to make a substantive difference.
- 8:22And they continue to be that way.
- 8:24We have a number of things in the pipeline right now.
- 8:26I've told both Kevin, OJ and Catalina, who are respective
- 8:30leaders of Department of Housing and Land Management,
- 8:35they've actually exceeded my expectations here at bringing things to the fore.
- 8:39And they're really aggressive.
- 8:40And so now we've got to be able to show we can execute,
- 8:42but if we execute everything that we have
- 8:46in the works, I mean, in the works, this is not just some cerebral endeavor.
- 8:49I'm talking about deals, all that stuff.
- 8:52And we will execute that because there's so much at stake.
- 8:56We will have really made a tremendous difference.
- 8:58I, we already have.
- 9:00I think we well, we've obviously just an establishing
- 9:03and giving the city the capability that it now has in development
- 9:06and financing is really is a playmaker, if you will, with the private sector
- 9:10as well.
- 9:11For a creation of housing, and all the other things that we're doing.
- 9:14This is a game changer here.
- 9:16So that's what I really like about it.
- 9:18It's the reality. It's the it's the momentum.
- 9:20It's the credibility, if you will, of what we said
- 9:24at one point was, you know, what we had to create.
- 9:27So it needed to be done.
- 9:28And now we have that creation and it's beginning to manifest.
- 9:32It's like that.
- 9:33The reality is very exciting because we had no capabilities.
- 9:37You know, I talked about it in the state of the city
- 9:39and I've tried to be really clear every time,
- 9:41I'm not here to denigrate anybody before us. But
- 9:43the city wasn't in the housing business since 1998, had not been a player.
- 9:48City needs to be a player in that for so many reasons
- 9:50that we know, and so that's going to make a big difference.
- 9:54Can't do it fast enough.
- 9:55So much of what is in this job sometimes is about future generations or whatever.
- 10:00But we're making things happen to happen
- 10:01now, but they will definitely impact the future.
- 10:04And that's part of our responsibility to be able to do that kind of a partner
- 10:07issue with that, this year's point in time count numbers were released.
- 10:12What did you like about this year's what was a big win?
- 10:14You know, and I've never really been somebody
- 10:16to hang on the point in time count, per se.
- 10:19But it is one of those criteria.
- 10:21One of those metrics is out there.
- 10:23And so, you know, we're up by 34 people.
- 10:26And that's despite the fact that we knew for a fact
- 10:29from Partners in Care alone that some 590 people came in here
- 10:32last year from the mainland, you know, but it was really up,
- 10:36it really encourages two numbers, 135% more homeless people sheltered
- 10:42and 20% of the, up, 20% are chronic homeless.
- 10:46Is is is is down.
- 10:48It's up 20% down as well, you know, so we've improved by 20%.
- 10:53So that's important that, you know, we're making strides.
- 10:57What I really don't feel confident about this when the two hung up on the point
- 11:01in time count is that we now have a capability between core,
- 11:05you know, and what they can do with respect to MH.
- 11:09The people that we can pick up voluntarily
- 11:12or involuntarily the, the, the hardest cases out there.
- 11:15But we now have established places to take them.
- 11:18We now have a very good collaboration with the state on wraparound services.
- 11:22Despite the legislative cuts.
- 11:24We're finding a way to be able to heal that financially.
- 11:27We now have.
- 11:28In fact, it was just debut last week on the, Kokua Command Center now.
- 11:33So we can really facilitate.
- 11:35If police pick up somebody, they know where to go.
- 11:38We're getting a getting out of that old model.
- 11:40Somebody calls the police, calls this the dispatch
- 11:43EMS very closely, and now they pick up somebody.
- 11:46They take them to Queens, if you will, to the emergency room.
- 11:502 or 3 hours later, through no fault the queens, they treat that person,
- 11:53they put them back where out of that cycle went to a psycho right now of
- 11:56of dealing with is a whole new situation is getting better and better.
- 12:02At being able to take people and place them.
- 12:06We're just, we're having some real success.
- 12:09We're not pounding our chest about it.
- 12:11But I said all along,
- 12:12we want to be able to get functional control of this
- 12:15so we don't feel like we're being victimized or overrun by it,
- 12:19or for that matter, desperation in the minds of the community.
- 12:21Because nobody seems to do with this.
- 12:23We're not totally there yet, but we have all the right pieces in place
- 12:27to to do this.
- 12:28And we are doing it, and it's only going to get better over time.
- 12:31And what I'm really encouraged by is that we're doing a really good job
- 12:35of getting people now into longer term care and housing
- 12:39and not just short turnarounds, you know?
- 12:41And so that's why I'm encouraged by the fact.
- 12:43And that's I want to give credit to Governor Green.
- 12:46The calls alone have had a lot to do with that
- 12:4835% increase in sheltered housing.
- 12:52But we've done some other remarkable things.
- 12:53You know, the Kate Lagoon cleanup was amazing.
- 12:56A big contribution.
- 12:58We've got some characters still left up at Diamondhead.
- 13:00But cleaning up Diamondhead, we had a headline a couple of weeks ago.
- 13:04Reduction in Waikiki, up 91%.
- 13:08I should say that I got a little confused why we're doing the right thing.
- 13:10Sounds absurd.
- 13:11This is all poisonous.
- 13:12Yeah, yeah, but I mean, you know, it's a, Yeah, it's the numbers.
- 13:17I'm usually pretty good with numbers, but it's, it's having positive numbers.
- 13:21It gets a negative situation.
- 13:23I got to figure out how to articulate that. But.
- 13:25But you know what? We're doing real stuff.
- 13:27I mean, I was a week ago, I was at the hotel owners and
- 13:31had them on a room, and I brought the newspaper
- 13:33just to make sure, because in fact, it was interesting
- 13:35the way it all worked out because, like, they hadn't even seen it.
- 13:37And, I said, you know, a headline like this doesn't happen by accident.
- 13:41It's been a real concerted effort.
- 13:42But HPD with the bid in Waikiki, we really like Trevor up reservoir,
- 13:46who, has worked really well as a partner with us.
- 13:49But the focus that we have, I see improvements
- 13:53constantly as we'll continue to make in Chinatown.
- 13:56It's an uphill.
- 13:57Yeah, but we're getting there.
- 14:00We are.
- 14:00We're doing things
- 14:01that haven't been done before, and it's manifesting in real changes.
- 14:05And sometimes, you know, things are more evolutionary than revolutionary.
- 14:09And I'm not one for sitting by and rationalizing.
- 14:13But I also respect the fact it's a very complicated problem.
- 14:16So I think we've broken down now,
- 14:18I've sorted out on how we want to attack it, and we're doing it well,
- 14:23Mary, you were there last week
- 14:24as another massive section of all of the stadium came down.
- 14:28What did that do for you mentally, emotionally,
- 14:32maybe even strategically as a matter?
- 14:34I was amazed they interviewed me and I got really choked up.
- 14:38I, I couldn't believe it because I had so many incredible memories,
- 14:42in that stadium, from the standpoint of my early coaching
- 14:46is were there and we opened it up to, for several years as a coach there.
- 14:51And then for all the magical years I had with the late, great Jim Leahy,
- 14:54what had said for the University
- 14:56White Games during the heyday, back when we saw that stadium out
- 14:59and everybody would be on headsets, too, and it was such a vibrant,
- 15:03vital part of our community. It's such a source of pride. Right?
- 15:05So a lot of emotion came up, and I even heralded back
- 15:08to when I first came at the old stadium in my day.
- 15:11And when I played there in the 60s, and I also coached there
- 15:14and what stadiums mean.
- 15:16And so the reality now, finally, of the stadium coming down
- 15:20and the fact that we're going
- 15:21to build something for this, for this community to have, you know,
- 15:25there's no other place once this is built, 31,000 people, we can put them together.
- 15:29You know, it becomes a special venue.
- 15:31And, well, maybe we forced the issue a Capellini park.
- 15:35We did the service, but that's not the ideal model, you know?
- 15:39I mean, you want to have something that, is is is precisely that.
- 15:43So I think I got emotional and book and looking back at the past,
- 15:46but also about the fact that you can see the future now
- 15:49getting created and what that will mean.
- 15:51And, and so, I like that this
- 15:54we you to me, stadiums are sort of spiritual places
- 15:57because people come and they share such great emotion.
- 16:01I've joked it. I don't mean to be sacrilegious.
- 16:03Did this probably more praying that goes on in stadiums
- 16:06doesn't some of the churches.
- 16:07But just all that, all of that, you know, to quote the old ABC thing, the
- 16:11the joy of victory, the agony of defeat and how people go to look at,
- 16:15you know, contests and competitions that are done there
- 16:18and that anticipation and all that that conjures up.
- 16:21It's just it's great to that.
- 16:23We'll have a venue like that, that hopefully will be something
- 16:27everybody's really proud of. And I saw there was a pride of Aloha Stadium.
- 16:29I go back to Governor Burns days when we talked about that in the early 70s,
- 16:33and then we were opening it up in 75 and what that meant.
- 16:37And through all that time, I can honestly remember a time
- 16:40when the late, great Stan Sheriff as well,
- 16:43he and I became close friends because of what we do
- 16:45with the television contracts and stuff and really were partners.
- 16:49And in many ways, we really became the US television station.
- 16:53And, in those years and what that afforded everybody to see the teams.
- 16:58But we also were having sellouts, were sellouts,
- 17:00and baseball were selling out still shirts and it wasn't built a club, Jim.
- 17:04I mean, you know, and we were just then, you know, being able to showcase it
- 17:08throughout the state, known for a while that was so unique.
- 17:10It's an island state, right.
- 17:11And so all of that stuff was to me was always wonderful.
- 17:15You know, just the teams were playing well and we were showcases everybody.
- 17:19And we used to say in those years it wasn't
- 17:20the team that won, it was Hawaii won and that kind of pride.
- 17:23I want to see that come back and I think we're starting to see some snippets.
- 17:26Met Lee, who's just about 21, and his job is yeah, what if he's done a great job.
- 17:31You know Stephen size article is tremendous economically.
- 17:34All he's done
- 17:35I was really pleased to see the headline about the getting the 5 million for nil.
- 17:39We've been all over that because the game itself has changed.
- 17:42But it's not just football, it's all sports.
- 17:44So we look we just want a national championship in volleyball.
- 17:46Since you and I talk, three of them, people,
- 17:50places go on for decades, played the sport or even come close to one
- 17:54and always had them, I think in the final four like nine times, you know, I mean it
- 17:58playing at a high low, this is about excellence at the highest level
- 18:02and going back to the pride of our people in the incredible place
- 18:05that we live in that produces so many incredible athletes
- 18:08and also at the same time, have
- 18:09athletes come to compete here because of how they perceive Hawaii.
- 18:13Our ability to capitalize on that and showcase
- 18:15that is a very important and vital part of the fabric of this community.
- 18:19So I'm all for, you know, I'm all for this stuff.
- 18:22I just because I think it's good for people's soul.
- 18:24It's good for the psyche.
- 18:25I mean, I know that I've lived long enough to understand what it means,
- 18:29and why shouldn't we have those experiences
- 18:32when so many of these other cities, as we watch on television,
- 18:35have their franchises and, you know, and all that that represents
- 18:38and what it means to be a fan, etc., that's what we're doing here.
- 18:42And,
- 18:44it's all good.
- 18:44It's going to get better.
- 18:47Well, we're this is the one Oahu podcast.
- 18:49So for one final.
- 18:50Well, look, I hope that come on camera, I'm feeling really positive.
- 18:53You know, I, I really am I mean, I see good things happening.
- 18:56As I said a couple times, I, I don't know if it can happen fast enough,
- 18:59but we know we're doing good things.
- 19:00We're doing good work is administration.
- 19:02I'm proud of it. Will collaborating well with the state?
- 19:04We're trying to be a collaborator with anybody and everybody.
- 19:07I see other people doing good work as well.
- 19:09I'm really excited about the university.
- 19:10I think President Hensel has done
- 19:12a really good job in her tenure since she's been there.
- 19:14Matt Elliott, as we just said, that combination of what that represents,
- 19:18and, and, you know, it's it's about not accepting defeat.
- 19:23It's not about reading the gloomy headlines
- 19:26and sitting there going, okay, this is our destiny.
- 19:28You know, we understand we've been challenged offices.
- 19:30We know full well what's going on with Japan for a number of different reasons.
- 19:34As far as the this is from that place.
- 19:36And what are we doing to be proactive,
- 19:37to take care of ourselves, to fulfill our own destiny,
- 19:40to create our own futures.
- 19:41And I see that manifesting now in a number of places
- 19:44with different people going, you know what?
- 19:45Okay, we get it, but we're going to buck the trend.
- 19:48We're going to we're going to do something about that.
- 19:49And I said recently a speech there was kind of three kinds of people,
- 19:53you know,
- 19:54there's a person who walks outside their front door
- 19:55and they just sort of look around and they watch what happens.
- 19:59And then the other person walks out, says Dawn.
- 20:01And they say, what happened?
- 20:03But there's that person who walks outside the door who makes things happen.
- 20:07And that's all we need to be as a people.
- 20:09So thank you for
- 20:12who? And just a reminder, it is hurricane season here in Hawaii.
- 20:16The time to prepare is now.
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- 20:24Mahalo for listening. And until next time, Aloha!