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Super Bowl Recap followed by Austin and Evan putting on their GM hats and making roster moves and contract decisions for the 2024 offseason | TSH Ep. 27 · The Skol Hop

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  Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of The School
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  Hub. I'm Evan.
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  And I'm Austin. We're just a couple of dudes
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  from Iowa. We like drinking beer, talking
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  about the Vikings. We do.
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  We we really do like doing both of those things.
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  They are two of my favorite things.
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  Yeah, yeah, my wife would roll her eyes at me agreeing to that
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  sentence. But darn it, yeah, and you know
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  what? Sometimes drinking beer is more
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  fun than talking about the Vikings.
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  Sometimes drinking beer allows us to talk about the Vikings.
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  Yeah, everything you've said is true.
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  Yep. So you brought the beer?
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  I did today. I did.
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  Tell us about it. So last week we we ultimately
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  chose the cloud tripping from oh man, where was it from?
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  Put me on the spot, darn it. We'll go back and look.
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  Hang on, man, I got the list here.
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  Great Revivalist. Great Revivalist.
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  Yep. Sorry GRB.
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  So yeah, last week we ended up choosing the the Cloud Trip in
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  Hazy IPA from Great Revivalist. But we're going back and forth
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  between that and what we ultimately are drinking tonight,
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  which is let me grab the can here from Contrary Brewing,
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  which I'm not. I'm not confident that I'm
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  saying that right. Contrary.
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  Contrary, Contrary. Yeah, but they are out of
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  Muscatine, IA. They say they're veteran owned
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  and operated, which is pretty sweet.
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  We are drinking their pig headed American Brown and we already
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  did our pre recorded Tiktok, our first taste Tiktok review and I
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  forget what did you what did you think of this?
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  I liked it. I I think we both kind of
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  mentioned how it it has a little bit more of a complex flavor to
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  it. I mean you, you take the first
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  sip and it's enjoyable, but then it kind of has a second, a
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  second round, almost like an. After taste.
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  Yeah, and it's it's very nice. It's it's got a lot of the
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  maltiness of a brown that I like, and it's just it's solid.
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  I mean good stuff. Yeah, I agree with everything
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  you just said. It's a it's a good beer.
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  I'm coming around to the brown ales.
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  Not that I was against them before, it just wasn't my go to,
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  but now I'm easily pick up an American brown or anything like
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  that. So this one, it's hitting the
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  spot I'd like to go. I'd like to go there and have
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  like a a fresh one right off the tap.
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  So if they have a tap room, I'm assuming they do.
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  Yeah, well, they're not that far away.
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  We'll need about a 45 minute drive.
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  So we should we should make that happen.
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  We will. And then you guys can teach us
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  how to properly say the name of your brewery.
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  Contrary. Slash.
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  Contrary, Merry, Merry. Quite.
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  Anyways, I like the beer. We'll we'll give it a full, full
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  review after we've finished, you know, towards the end of the
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  episode. But so far it's hitting the
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  spot. Yeah, Good choice, good choice.
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  And thanks for bringing it. Of course.
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  Well, there was a game that happened yesterday.
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  Was there? Yeah.
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  It's kind of a big one. What?
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  I think a lot of people watched it.
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  Like, I don't. I don't know.
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  The Vikings have never played in a game this late in the year.
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  Does the season go on that long? I mean, some people may have.
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  The Pro Bowl is Are you talking? Some people may have confused it
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  for the Usher concert. The what?
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  They played a football game at the Usher concert.
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  I don't know but. Yeah, I don't know.
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  I've always thought that the the halftime music was always the
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  most boring part of any football game at any level.
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  See, I'm a musician, so I. We don't share that opinion.
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  I would. Beg to differ.
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  Yeah, that's OK, but I enjoyed it.
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  That's fine. They got to let.
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  When else would the band kids play their music in front of
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  people? I just alienated the other 10%
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  of our audience. I resemble that remark.
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  So band kids out there don't listen to them.
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  You resemble. Yeah, I was a band kid all four
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  years. We went to high school together.
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  I know. It's just I feel like the word
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  resemble is not the correct word.
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  We we never got to. Shouldn't be resent.
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  No. Resemble.
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  It's actually look like it right.
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  Because I am we OK. I'm a band kid.
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  OK I resemble. That's a.
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  It's actually a quote from. Space Jam, Yeah, I just.
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  I resemble that remark. I can't get over 'cause I think
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  that's the wrong word. You're the English teacher here.
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  Resemble means to look like. Right.
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  Yeah, but like, I feel like I'm. I'm way outside of my.
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  What are we arguing about here? You're you're wrong.
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  Whatever you you resemble somebody.
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  That's wrong. Regardless, before we get 22
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  farts. Derailed anyways, Skull.
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  We can, we can agree on that word.
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  Skull. Skull.
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  That means cheers. Or.
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  Or does it? It does.
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  I don't know. I've never looked it up.
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  To me it means Cheers, Skull. Skull Sorry, I totally derailed
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  the the segment here. It's OK, that's all right.
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  But we were talking about this crazy game that they apparently
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  play this late in the season. Maybe one day we'll see our team
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  playing that game. I've seen a few people say on
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  Twitter and other places that they've surrendered to the fact
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  that it probably won't happen in their lifetime.
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  And I'm hoping those people are much older than us.
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  Yeah, because that would give us some hope that the Vikings could
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  eventually make it there. Yeah, it would feel pretty tough
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  if we were like 70 year old Vikings fans right now.
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  Like, yeah, yeah, I just, I don't even want to think about
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  the idea that we could go our whole lives and not see even
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  like an appearance in the Super Bowl 'cause you think like
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  Niners fans in the last, what, 14 ish years, they've seen their
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  team in the Super Bowl 3 times and they've lost all three times
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  and like, they're not any more successful Super Bowl wise than
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  the Vikings are. It's just yeah, that's that's a
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  little deflating to think about. As a franchise, they have some
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  wins. Oh, they have like 4 Super
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  Bowls. Oh yeah, they were dominant in
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  like the 80s and 90s. Yeah.
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  But I mean, lately it's just all Chiefs all the time.
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  What, three wins in five years? It's crazy.
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  Yeah, is what that is. It's crazy.
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  I mean, there are whole Lions stretches of five years seasons
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  that they don't have three regular season wins, so.
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  That's true. It is true.
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  Yeah. Well, I didn't.
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  I'm going to just be honest. I didn't watch every waking
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  minute of that game. You weren't awake every minute
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  I. Wasn't.
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  I fell asleep and I woke up to find out that I had gone into
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  overtime and then also found out that apparently the Niners
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  didn't know the new rules in the playoffs.
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  I didn't. I didn't.
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  I had heard it and I think when they announced it, what almost a
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  year ago, sure, I knew it. But like going in when the
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  Niners were, you know, driving down the field on their first
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  overtime drive, their only overtime drive, I was pretty
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  sure like, holy cow, they're in the red zone.
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  They're 20 yards away from winning, and they ultimately
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  didn't score, score touchdown. Right.
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  But then, yeah, I mean, they kicked the field goal and the
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  Chiefs seem to be for me, content to like, do everything
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  they can to score a touchdown, which that made sense for the
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  the rules that I thought they were because, you know, you
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  score a touchdown, you win. But yeah, I don't know.
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  I would have been super confused if the Niners had scored a
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  touchdown and the game didn't end like I.
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  Admittedly, I didn't know the rules either, but the players
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  and coaches should have known the rules.
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  Right. Well, and everything that I've
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  read today makes it seem like the Chiefs reviewed those rules
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  regularly throughout the regular season and into the postseason.
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  And then like twice this last week they had dedicated meetings
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  to, OK, if the game goes into overtime, these are the rules
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  and this is the strategy we're going to take.
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  And it just sounds like the Niners weren't prepared at all.
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  Do you know, are they the same rules for all of the playoffs as
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  well? That's my understanding is that
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  it applies to everything postseason.
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  Because it totally changes your strategy and what you do at the
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  coin toss. So say in the overtime game,
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  overtime of the Super Bowl, if you win the coin toss, you
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  absolutely want to defer like you want the other team to start
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  on offense. And I'm pretty sure the Niners
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  won the coin toss and they chose to receive the ball right, Which
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  right there tells you they don't know the rules because if you if
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  the other team receives the ball and they go down and score, you
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  still have a chance to score. And I think to your point, the
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  Chiefs have said like it, if that had happened, if the Niners
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  got the ball first, went down and scored, the Chiefs would
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  have tried to score. And if they did, they would have
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  gone for two rather than give the Niners another chance at
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  being on offense. Yeah, well, regardless of what
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  happened, that was the outcome. And the Chiefs have definitely
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  cemented themselves as a dynasty.
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  Oh yeah. I mean three win, 3 Super Bowl
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  wins in five seasons, 4 Super Bowl appearances in five
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  seasons, and. Patrick Mahomes isn't even 30
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  yet. Yeah, he what was he drafted as
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  like a 21 year old? He must have been because he's
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  been there for what, 2017? I think he was drafted and he
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  essentially didn't play at all his rookie year.
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  Yeah, he's been dominant ever since he started playing.
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  And I mean, Andy Reid's a heck of a coach, but like, you have
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  to have the coach and the quarterback and then, you know,
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  get lucky with a few other pieces in between there too.
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  So I don't know. I mean, it's tough to, For me,
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  it's tough to see one team just dominate for year in and year
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  out just because I'm jealous and I'm petty and I want my team to
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  have one chance, you know? Well, I mean, we, we got so sick
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  and tired of the Patriots in the 2000s and even into the 20 tens.
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  Like, come on, can these guys just not be good for once?
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  Yeah. Give somebody else a chance
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  like. Can it just every year they
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  were. I looked it up.
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  Tom Brady has at least A500 or better record against every
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  team. That's crazy.
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  Period. Well, and one stat that I always
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  thought was really cool about Tom Brady is that he never took
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  a snap at all in his career when his team was out of playoff
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  contention. I think, yeah, I think you told
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  me that. Yeah, I'm sure.
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  I think I've said it on this podcast.
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  Like Wild. Yeah, like, 'cause there was the
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  one year when he tours ACL and he was out for all but, you
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  know, the first few plays of the first game.
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  But yeah, every time he was playing, every single snap he
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  took, his team is at least in playoff contention, which is
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  nuts. Like, just imagine that success.
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  Like, just to know another cool stat.
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  More on Pat Mahomes and Super Bowl, specifically Pat Mahomes
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  and I guess the Chiefs. Since you know 2020 he has faced
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  A10 or more point deficit in every Super Bowl he has played
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  and they have never had a lead at half.
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  So Pat Mahomes has never had a Super Bowl lead at the halftime.
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  So he's the king of the second-half comeback.
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  Yeah. And I mean that was the the case
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  yesterday too. Like they definitely faced A10
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  point deficit and the Niners were up at half.
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  And for a while to me it looked like the Niners were were gonna
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  figure it out and usurp the Chiefs.
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  At least this year, that did not happen.
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  The curse of Kirk Cousins remains.
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  It does. Well, The curse kind of changed
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  up a little bit. It used to be no team has ever
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  lost to Kirk and they played it. To the Super Bowl.
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  But it still stands that no one has won the Super Bowl after
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  losing a game to Kirk Cousins in the season.
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  So yeah, there's there's our moral victory right there as
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  Vikings fans. Yeah, for a guy that is probably
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  not going to be a Viking anymore, we've probably seen his
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  last down as a Viking. That seems to be the writing on
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  the wall right now. And yeah, I I mean, we talked
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  about it a few weeks ago with Dustin Baker.
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  It all comes down to that decision.
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  The Vikings have to start there. He is the biggest chess piece on
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  the board and he's either there or he's not, and his presence
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  will dictate whatever else happens with these 25 other free
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  agents. And I mean just looking at him
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  and the rest of the league, too, him being Kirk.
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  Kirk is without a doubt the best available quarterback to anyone
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  at this moment outside of some crazy blockbuster trade.
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  But like I don't know who could you trade for that is better
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  than Kirk. Like you could argue Justin
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  Herbert. You could probably throw the the
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  farm at I almost said San Diego at La and maybe get him from the
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  Chargers. But even then, you're spending
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  more in capital than you would ever spend to just.
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  Hand Kirk a contract. I'd be like Harbaugh wants to
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  keep Herbert there. Yeah, and that's just like, I
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  don't know who else, who else you could even.
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  I mean, Mahomes is never going to be available.
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  You're not going to get him from from Kansas City.
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  Yeah, I mean Lamar Jackson, he's, you know, never going to
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  be available. Jalen Hurts, he's never going to
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  be available. You know, like these these big
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  name guys, you're not just going to be able to get them because
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  the price would be something like your next 41st round picks,
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  you know, like. So Kirk is definitely the best
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  available quarterback to any team right now, which means he's
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  going to get his requisite contract like the quote, UN
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  quote, hometown discount Just feels like it gets to be a
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  higher number every time you think about it.
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  Right. Well, and it doesn't help
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  anything that, what's his name from New York has kind of set
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  the floor for the market. Yeah, Daniel Jones.
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  Daniel Jones, There it is. Yeah.
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  Excuse me, because didn't he sign on like a 40 million a
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  year? Something like that, 4045, yeah.
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  And I mean, there's no question that Kirk is a better
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  quarterback and has been more successful for longer than
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  Daniel Jones. So, you know, if that's the
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  floor, then the only way to go up is or the only place to go is
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  up. And that's where you got to go
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  with Kirk, unless he's determined to stay in Minnesota
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  and make it work. Which I could see that like he's
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  definitely got some longevity in Minnesota, has some pride.
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  You know he he even mentioned in one interview like if we went
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  somewhere else I'd have to find a another kindergarten class
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  that we liked for our kids. You know like.
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  But he did mention like there's good kindergarten classes
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  everywhere. I guess but.
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  He's been, he's been very careful with his words since the
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  season ended and he, yeah, he's done a good job of.
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  I'm I'm sure he knows a lot more than he's willing to let on.
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  Oh yeah, he's done a very good job of keeping that under wraps.
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  But we'll see what happens. It'll be an interesting few
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  months here early in the off season.
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  Yeah, I don't know. I I feel like my gut is that I
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  want them to move on and draft a guy.
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  And even if that means we've got a a poor couple of seasons ahead
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  and then hopefully the guy flourishes and the team really
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  clicks and then you got a couple more great seasons after that,
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  But you never know, Who knows? Well, I had the idea.
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  I pitched this to you earlier today.
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  We were texting that we should mess around with over the cap.
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  We sit here a lot, and we just talk like we're the GM, but we
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  found a a nifty little tool to bring us one step closer to
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  sitting in Quasi's chair. Yeah, which again, we would both
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  be terrible at. Oh yeah, for sure.
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  But it's just fun to like, hypothetically speaking, what
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  would happen if this were the case?
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  What would happen if we, you know, let Kirk walk in free
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  agency and all this? So let's mess around with that.
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  And we're gonna maybe, hopefully try to get a little screen
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  capture here. And so if you're watching us,
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  you'll be able to see Austin clicking around.
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  This is overthecap.com. If you're not familiar with
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  overthecap.com, I would recommend it.
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  Just as a a football fan in general, there's a ton of
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  different resources and things that you can look at.
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  We were just talking about Daniel Jones kind of resetting
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  the quarterback market so you can like sort by position and
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  see what all their contracts are worth.
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  So all the quarterbacks in the league, all the running backs,
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  whatever. But we're looking at the Vikings
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  and we're looking at specifically 2024, 'cause this
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  is this offseason leading into the 2024 season, I think is the
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  the make or break. Like they have to.
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  They have to get it figured out. Yeah, this is definitely a an
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  altering, A franchise directional altering year for
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  the next decade or so. Yep.
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  So we're just going to play around with it and see what we
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  can't see, what we can't come up with.
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  All right, so first move as the skull hop GM candidacy here.
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  What are we doing? Are we signing Kirk Cousins?
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  So how much cap space do we have?
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  It should say up there at the top 24.
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  Looks like for 2024 they're saying a total cap space of
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  $24,600,000. Yeah, well, like I've been
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  saying, I think we've got to start with Kirk, so, well, I I
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  back up, you know what we need to do first.
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  What do? We need to.
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  Do we need to get rid of Marcus Davenport?
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  Oh, man. All right, let's find this guy.
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  Cut the guy, Get rid of him. I.
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  Feel like it? Doesn't his contract expire
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  like? I don't know.
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  I feel like it expires and he shouldn't be on here, but we'll
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  see. I'm not seeing him on the list
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  of. He's not too far down.
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  I'm looking at it too. You are.
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  Maybe I missed him. I don't know.
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  Six or seven down. Oh, I see him.
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  OK so all. Right.
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  And I would do whatever it takes to save money.
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  So I would cut him after June 1st.
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  All right, post June 1st cut, did that update.
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  No, not yet. Do I need to do?
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  You click submit. Where is the submit?
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  Oh, it's right next to him. Gray button.
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  Got it? OK, let's submit that guy.
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  All right, now we have $29,700,000.
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  Better. All right, Now I think we we
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  take care of Kirk here. What are we doing signing him
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  long term? Long term?
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  I think a long term is 2 to three years for Kirk with the
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  Vikings. He may sign longer somewhere
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  else but. I don't.
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  I mean if the market is set at 40, let's say 40.
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  Oh man. All right, how do I How do I
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  update this? Click on the same thing that you
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  did and then. Extend or renegotiate, we'll
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  extend it. And then click the Gray button.
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  Then I think you got to type. It.
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  There we go. OK.
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  And that, I think starts you with Four Seasons and then you
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  can click that red X on the left to delete.
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  So I think two seasons for me is the sweet spot for Kirk with the
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  Vikings. At what, 36 years old?
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  Right now, off of a devastating injury.
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  Yeah. You don't know what you're
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  getting. I know the reason why.
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  I think maybe letting him walk. But let's see what this looks
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  like. So you said what, what should we
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  say? 35A year?
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  That'd be two years, $70 million.
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  That would be a big discount. A big hometown discount
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  considering what Daniel Jones is getting in New York.
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  Yeah, and I may not be doing this right because.
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  I think you're doing it perfectly OK and I'm not.
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  I I didn't get into like all the like signing bonus and stuff
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  like that. Yep.
• 22:14
  All right. Well, that takes us down to $13
• 22:17
  million of 2024 cap space. Next thing.
• 22:23
  I mean, for me, the next thing you have to do is Justin
• 22:27
  Jefferson and he needs, you're probably looking at four years,
• 22:32
  130 ish $1,000,000. Well, because he's gonna get
• 22:37
  around 20, five, $30 million A. Year.
• 22:43
  Yeah, Well. Just realistically extend and
• 22:51
  negotiate, OK? He said that he wants Kirk
• 22:55
  throwing the football to him, so I'd say do it.
• 23:00
  All right, so we're gonna do four years, and I don't know how
• 23:08
  to manipulate this like to make the numbers look even halfway
• 23:12
  accurate. You can like completely delete
• 23:16
  those and like put in new numbers.
• 23:18
  Yeah, but it's got the prorated bonus and the non prorated bonus
• 23:22
  and let's just go. I was messing around with their
• 23:28
  annual salary. The base salary, Yeah, alright,
• 23:34
  we're just gonna plug in 30 million for all of these years.
• 23:38
  30 million a year for four years?
• 23:39
  That's what, 120 million? Yeah, that sounds for me a non
• 23:47
  expert. That sounds about right.
• 23:49
  So while you're doing that, I can just look at positions
• 23:54
  really quick and we can see where the market's at so.
• 23:56
  Look at what's Devante Adams getting. 140 over so in total
• 24:02
  value. Devante Adams is locked up in
• 24:08
  Vegas until 2027, so 5. Years.
• 24:12
  Five more years. Four more years.
• 24:14
  Five including this year and then Tyreke 120 until 2027.
• 24:24
  Yeah, but what's interesting about Devante's is only 22
• 24:30
  million is fully guaranteed. Interesting.
• 24:33
  Yeah, he probably got a big bonus right up front and that
• 24:37
  was what, 2:00-ish years ago that he's been with the Raiders,
• 24:40
  so. Kind of interesting.
• 24:42
  But what's the average per year for those guys, those two guys?
• 24:46
  Devante, 28, and Tyreek, 30. Yep.
• 24:49
  So I think 30 and JJ, you could argue is better than both of
• 24:55
  them. Tyreek is the more heavy
• 24:59
  argument on who's better, but it's not.
• 25:02
  It's not a foregone conclusion that JJ or Tyreek is better than
• 25:06
  the other one. That's a good argument.
• 25:08
  I think so. To say that JJ could be looking
• 25:10
  at 30 a year to me sounds reasonable, if not more than
• 25:15
  that, so. So.
• 25:17
  Far over the cap are we now given JJA 4 year contract at 30
• 25:21
  a year leaves the Vikings with $2.7 million of cap space for
• 25:26
  2024 that does not look at rookies, that doesn't look at.
• 25:31
  Danielle Hunter. Danielle or Dalton Reisner or.
• 25:36
  We're going to need some more. Everybody else, I mean you're
• 25:39
  I'd like to resign. Jordan Hicks, yeah.
• 25:43
  There's a couple of free agents on that list that I think would
• 25:45
  be worth keeping. Around Well, shoot, I mean
• 25:48
  losing free agents. Right now you're looking at
• 25:50
  Jordan Hicks, You're looking at Dalton Reisner, DJ Wanam, who's
• 25:54
  injured, but he's still only 27 and.
• 25:57
  Could come back a lot of promise.
• 26:00
  Anthony Barr who may be done. KJ Osborne who I I'm fine.
• 26:05
  You can replace him with anybody.
• 26:06
  Sorry KJ David Questenberry who was a solid tackle backup but
• 26:12
  he's 34 he's he he's probably not coming back just kind of
• 26:18
  going down the list those I think I've said all the names
• 26:22
  maybe Brandon Powell who would be a very cheap re sign.
• 26:25
  You're talking maybe veteran minimum.
• 26:32
  Yeah, I mean, that's that's about it.
• 26:34
  Maybe Nick Muse is a tight end to resign, but he'd be again,
• 26:38
  better than minimum. Cam Acres, maybe.
• 26:39
  But devastating injury. Two Achilles.
• 26:43
  On both legs, as a running back, I'd say he's, he's done.
• 26:47
  But I think that's not without even naming Daniel Hunter.
• 26:54
  So just looking at these moves that we've made so far, the
• 26:57
  Kirk, the JJ and then you still have Daniel Hunter.
• 27:03
  Are there any other players on the active roster that aren't
• 27:07
  free agents that you could cut? So I think one kind of wild card
• 27:11
  at this moment is what is Harrison Smith going to do?
• 27:17
  And then not even what he's going to do?
• 27:20
  What are the Vikings going to do with him?
• 27:25
  Agreed. I mean, he's got a base salary
• 27:27
  in 24 of $14 million, so a cap number of $19 million.
• 27:36
  That's kind of tempting. However, Harrison Smith is
• 27:39
  still, it's not like he's been playing terrible the last few
• 27:41
  years, like he's still Harrison Smith.
• 27:43
  So that's that's one way, one way you could go.
• 27:49
  I've heard Harrison Phillips come up as a name that you could
• 27:51
  let go and save some cap number, but darn it he he's a good
• 27:55
  player and he's not a bank breaking player.
• 27:58
  And I liked him in the middle. I I think he, I I think we need
• 28:03
  to find someone else to be the the Robin to his Batman.
• 28:10
  I mean, we just didn't have anybody feeling that those holes
• 28:15
  up front, right? Yeah.
• 28:16
  And I think that's one of the biggest needs that they've
• 28:19
  identified in the draft is that interior defensive line
• 28:22
  position. Yep, I think Dean Lowry is a
• 28:24
  potential cut candidate. Yes, a post June cut would save
• 28:30
  you. Oh shoot, that goes up to $6
• 28:33
  million and six and a half million dollars of cap space if
• 28:35
  you get rid of Dean Lowry. Yep, a guy that barely played,
• 28:40
  albeit he was injured. But I mean that that seems like
• 28:45
  a a somewhat no brainer cap space move.
• 28:50
  As much as it pains me to say, if the Vikings aren't going to
• 28:55
  utilize the fullback position, then CJ Hamm could probably go.
• 28:59
  Yeah, but let's just even see what cutting him.
• 29:04
  It's not gonna do a lot. I mean, he's got a 3.2 million.
• 29:10
  Cap. It'd give you an extra 2 1/2 ish
• 29:13
  $1,000,000. But I think.
• 29:15
  I'm going to undo that one. I think there's some guys at the
• 29:17
  bottom of that list that don't get paid a lot, but if you can,
• 29:21
  if you can cut a bunch of those younger players that didn't play
• 29:24
  at all and you can cut 10 of them, you open up.
• 29:31
  I mean, yeah, but you also have to field A-Team too.
• 29:33
  Right. I get that.
• 29:35
  I think, I think the obvious ones.
• 29:37
  We've already talked about Marcus Davenport, immediately
• 29:41
  obvious, and then Dean Lowry, another immediately obvious cut.
• 29:49
  About Alexander Madison, you bring him back.
• 29:51
  I don't know. He's under contract.
• 29:53
  He is, but I don't know how much you'd get.
• 29:56
  Let's just see what it is. We'll cut him.
• 29:58
  You can trade him, I can. Trade.
• 30:00
  If you couldn't trade Delvin Cook a year ago, you can't trade
• 30:04
  Alex Madison. True, this only gives me the cut
• 30:09
  pre June 1st option. And that could be part of his
• 30:12
  contract too, I don't know. So that gives you another goes
• 30:16
  from 6 1/2 or 6.6 million to 7.2 million in cash base.
• 30:20
  So what? Another half $1,000,000?
• 30:22
  A little bit more than that, By cutting Alex Madison, I mean.
• 30:26
  And I mean, the going rate for a rookie is like, what, 900,000?
• 30:30
  Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, there are different.
• 30:34
  Madison could be a cut candidate.
• 30:36
  There are different tiers for rookies, right?
• 30:39
  Well, depending on where they're drafted, and especially if
• 30:41
  they're undrafted, yeah. But I mean, if let's say you
• 30:44
  pick up one of those, like Blake Coram, one of those good
• 30:48
  Michigan backs later in the draft, I mean, cheaper and
• 30:54
  possibly more effective potentially, yeah, than
• 30:56
  Alexander Madison. So yeah, a a rookie is an
• 31:00
  option, although I don't. I should know, but I don't know
• 31:03
  where they're sitting draft capital wise.
• 31:05
  They've got the 11th pick in the first round, but.
• 31:08
  There's one round, they don't have a pick.
• 31:10
  Is it the third round 'cause I think.
• 31:12
  It's like 3rd, 4th or 5th. I think they gave up the third
• 31:15
  rounder in the TJ Hawkinson trade.
• 31:18
  That sounds right. But either way, it's yeah, it's
• 31:21
  it's that 3rd 4th ish pick 'cause they also gave up twenty
• 31:26
  threes 2nd rounder for TJ Hawkinson.
• 31:32
  But yeah, then that's all all of this is with the the possibility
• 31:40
  of signing Kirk for another two years, $70 million, which may be
• 31:46
  too cheap. Like he may not.
• 31:48
  Somebody's going to give him that.
• 31:49
  At least that. So just for fun, let's undo that
• 31:52
  move. Let Kirk go.
• 31:56
  Yeah, let's let Kirk walk and keep the the moves that we've
• 32:00
  done. So cutting Dean Lowry, cutting
• 32:02
  Marcus Davenport, which the Davenport move kind of confuses
• 32:06
  me a little bit 'cause I thought he only signed a one year
• 32:08
  contract. So I.
• 32:11
  This could have been a one year with dead money and.
• 32:14
  Yeah, but that dead money would still be dead money regardless.
• 32:17
  Either way, I know that I'm not super smart in this and let's
• 32:21
  just assume this website knows more than I do.
• 32:25
  But yeah, let's just get rid, let's do undo on Kirk.
• 32:30
  Well, that's, I don't think we have to do anything 'cause he's
• 32:35
  gonna, his contract will expire anyways.
• 32:39
  Yeah, And he'll have some dead money in future years.
• 32:44
  Yeah. Which, that's a free agency.
• 32:45
  Yeah, that's. The That's the Case No matter
• 32:50
  what. So not extending him bumps us
• 32:53
  all the way up to $23.3 million in cap space, which in that
• 32:57
  scenario you would be able to redesign Danielle Hunter.
• 33:04
  And Harrison Smith? Probably.
• 33:06
  And yeah, well, Harrison Smith, he's still under contract.
• 33:09
  True, he should retire. He could retire.
• 33:13
  You could negotiate, which last year he already renegotiated for
• 33:17
  less money. But I think what's Daniel
• 33:22
  Hunter, he's 30. He's probably looking at at
• 33:24
  least a three-year contract and I think conservatively like
• 33:29
  lowballing it would be $20 million a.
• 33:31
  Year, Yeah. Well, he's getting 17 right now.
• 33:37
  Yeah. So the market is kind of set
• 33:41
  with Nick Bosa at 34. Yep.
• 33:43
  And he's not that. He's not as good as Nick Bosa, I
• 33:46
  would say, but. No, but he's also coming off
• 33:49
  arguably one of his best statistical years.
• 33:53
  So just signing in for another three years, an average of $20
• 33:56
  million a year after that leaves you with $10.8 million in cap
• 34:01
  space. And I know you still have to pay
• 34:04
  your rookies. And if the rumours are true that
• 34:06
  the Vikings could be looking to go as high as #3, trading with
• 34:10
  the Patriots? That's an expensive rookie.
• 34:13
  Cheaper than it was, you know, 15 years ago, because there's
• 34:16
  the rookie salary cap. But that's still an expensive
• 34:20
  rookie. You know who's been a really
• 34:25
  expensive rookie? Lewisine.
• 34:27
  Lewisine is he even doesn't even make sense to cut him yet.
• 34:33
  I don't know, but he's another one that's kind of a like Marcus
• 34:37
  Davenport type of like, man, what a waste of money.
• 34:43
  Well, cutting Lewisine actually is expensive.
• 34:48
  You'd lose almost $2,000,000. Interesting.
• 34:53
  In cap space. This is why this does not make
• 34:55
  sense to me. That was a yeah 'cause we went
• 34:59
  from like 10 point, about 10.8 to 8.8.
• 35:02
  So yeah, that was a $2,000,000 loss of money.
• 35:08
  Well, I guess we'll keep. Them around, Yeah.
• 35:10
  But if you don't keep Kirk and you do the moves we've already
• 35:14
  said, you know, extend JJ, extend Anil, get rid of
• 35:18
  Davenport and Lowry, maybe that means you can do something like
• 35:22
  sign A Dalton Reisner. I don't know.
• 35:26
  I think I clicked the wrong name here.
• 35:29
  And the number I've heard for Reisner is something like three
• 35:36
  years, 25 ish $1,000,000 total. So what would that be, 8, let's
• 35:44
  just say $8 million a year for Dalton?
• 35:52
  See the left side or the right side?
• 35:54
  Dalton is on the the right side under that list of free agents.
• 35:59
  No, I mean like. Oh, he plays left guard, OK?
• 36:03
  So he's currently getting 2A year.
• 36:07
  Yeah, 17 a year. But he he has outplayed that.
• 36:10
  Oh yeah, for sure. And somebody will pay for for
• 36:13
  that. So I just plugged him in at $8
• 36:15
  million a year for three years and that took us from $10.8
• 36:21
  million to 3.6. Well, shoot.
• 36:24
  Ingram's only getting. Well, Ingram was.
• 36:28
  He's also still on his rookie. Contract.
• 36:30
  Yeah, that makes sense. So I I think this, this
• 36:34
  experiment right here just numbers wise is telling, telling
• 36:40
  us and granted we, I mean we're essentially morons when it comes
• 36:45
  to this. Like we don't know anything.
• 36:46
  We're playing with this calculator and trusting that
• 36:48
  it's right. It's still telling me
• 36:51
  financially it doesn't make sense to keep Kirk.
• 36:54
  If you also want to keep some of the other guys.
• 36:58
  I think the biggest one is you can't have Kirk and Daniel
• 37:00
  Hunter. That's the the quickest
• 37:05
  statement that I'm seeing. Yeah, for sure.
• 37:08
  And you probably can't even justify guys like Dalton
• 37:11
  Reisner, Jordan Hicks. Oh, I feel like if they announce
• 37:15
  at all like, oh, Kirkrey signs with the Vikings.
• 37:18
  I immediately I've forgotten Dalton Reisner's name like he
• 37:21
  they can't sign him like and Jordan Hicks like he's.
• 37:25
  I mean, he's 32. Somebody will sign him, but the
• 37:29
  Vikings won't have the money to to the luxury money to sign guys
• 37:35
  like that. That well then you start to open
• 37:37
  up the conversation to about. 2. What?
• 37:43
  I thought you said Tua. It's up there.
• 37:47
  You open up the conversation about like mortgaging the future
• 37:52
  on the now and just pushing all of that money down to 25 and 26
• 37:59
  and even 27 and 28 like. Which if you're confident like,
• 38:03
  hey, Super Bowl and you think, like, man, I don't know how they
• 38:08
  wouldn't win the Super Bowl. If they do sign Kirk, Like, if
• 38:11
  that's their thought, then shoot, Do whatever you have to
• 38:15
  to sign whoever you need to win the Super Bowl.
• 38:18
  If you're like, on the last year of a dynasty and you need to re
• 38:21
  up Pat Mahomes for one more year, then you do whatever you
• 38:28
  have to do to keep that dynasty going.
• 38:30
  But like, that's to me, that's not the case.
• 38:34
  The Vikings are not in that situation.
• 38:36
  They they have a better chance of winning the Super Bowl in
• 38:39
  2024 with Kirk Cousins, I think, But then you're totally selling
• 38:45
  out and ruining the next 5:00-ish years of your franchise
• 38:51
  by throwing it all in for one year.
• 38:54
  That's not a guarantee. And potentially making like
• 38:59
  Justin Jefferson really unhappy at the end of.
• 39:04
  His contract, although Justin Baker said, I think on his first
• 39:07
  appearance with us that like JJ, like as long as he, he has an
• 39:14
  idea of who's throwing in the ball.
• 39:15
  Like, yes, JJ has come out and basically said, like, I want
• 39:18
  Kirk back, which is admirable. That's a good teammate.
• 39:22
  Shows the kind of a teammate that Kirk is.
• 39:24
  But I feel like you can appease JJ Like if you say like, yeah,
• 39:29
  it's not going to be Kirk, but it is going to be this incoming
• 39:32
  guy that you've heard his name. You know, not Caleb Williams
• 39:35
  probably. But what Who did who did Dustin
• 39:40
  say you wanted? Drake.
• 39:41
  May. Drake May.
• 39:42
  Yeah. Like, if it's somebody that you
• 39:43
  can be like, yeah, this is who we got.
• 39:46
  We're not. We're not trying to sign, you
• 39:48
  know, tie Rod Taylor and run it with him without a future
• 39:53
  consistent. I hope.
• 39:55
  I hope. We don't sign Sam Darnold.
• 39:58
  Yeah, I mean. Crying out loud.
• 40:00
  Holy cow, that would be terrible.
• 40:02
  Yeah, that would feel like a cop out.
• 40:05
  However, in that scenario, if they trade up, you know, get the
• 40:10
  third overall pick and then sign Sam Darnold and then draft
• 40:18
  whoever it is, you know, the obvious quarterback of the
• 40:20
  future, then I can. I can be sold on that.
• 40:23
  But like, I don't know if it's a bridge.
• 40:26
  Quarterback at a reasonable rate?
• 40:29
  Maybe. Maybe.
• 40:31
  But I don't know. I haven't seen Sam Darnold play
• 40:37
  a winning game, I don't think. Yeah, well, there was.
• 40:40
  I mean, he's been on the Niners this year and there was the like
• 40:43
  one game where Purdy was looking kind of little.
• 40:48
  Little down wasn't looking that great.
• 40:50
  The Niners still had a chance to win.
• 40:53
  And then Purdy messed up his hand or something and Sam
• 40:57
  Darnold came in, came in 'cause he had to.
• 40:59
  And then Purdy looked like he was good to go and Shanahan was
• 41:03
  like, hold on, Darnold, we're we're sticking with him.
• 41:06
  We got something going here. And I don't even remember if the
• 41:09
  Niners ended up winning that game.
• 41:10
  But there's something there for Darnold.
• 41:12
  But at that point, for me, I mean, I've talked about how Nick
• 41:18
  Mullins might be one of the better QB twos in the league.
• 41:22
  If you're gonna sign Sam Darnold, you might as well just
• 41:24
  run it with Nick Mullins, who has proven to be decent at
• 41:30
  coming out of nowhere and coming on the field.
• 41:32
  He's. Also really good at throwing
• 41:33
  picks, yeah? But he's also gonna throw for
• 41:35
  400 yards and maybe a couple touchdowns and hopefully not too
• 41:39
  many picks. Well, you never give a guy a
• 41:43
  chance to throw 4 interceptions. The Vikings did it a few times
• 41:48
  this year. Yeah, man.
• 41:53
  That was a fun experiment, though.
• 41:54
  Like, I'm glad we did that. And yeah, it's it's so true that
• 42:02
  we would be horrible at that job.
• 42:05
  We would. We would be so lost.
• 42:08
  I mean, that's why they let us play Madden and they don't make
• 42:13
  us be the GM of our favorite team because we would make some
• 42:16
  terrible moves, probably with other people's money and lots of
• 42:20
  other people's money. I think it also just goes to
• 42:22
  show what a difficult position the Vikings are in this season.
• 42:27
  I mean, it's it's something's literally going to have to give.
• 42:31
  Someone will have to go and the fan base will be upset.
• 42:36
  And no matter what you do, sections of the fan base will be
• 42:40
  upset and sections will be super pumped.
• 42:44
  There are people that can't stand Kirk Cousins and they're
• 42:47
  just super pumped that he might not be on the team and I'm not
• 42:50
  in that crowd. But like, there are other people
• 42:52
  that will stop watching the Vikings if they don't sign Kirk
• 42:56
  Cousins, and I'm not in that crowd either.
• 42:57
  But like, yeah, there's just all kinds of people that are fans
• 43:02
  and quote UN quote fans and I'm just, I'm excited to see where
• 43:07
  it all goes. It'll definitely be a soap opera
• 43:11
  of a offseason and it's going to start soon because, I mean, I I
• 43:16
  would say a Kirk decision will be made before March Madness.
• 43:23
  Maybe, excuse me, he has come out and said a few times like
• 43:28
  it'll be an interesting first couple of weeks of March.
• 43:33
  So I don't know. I I think his contract has a
• 43:36
  weird early expiration date. I don't know if he's
• 43:39
  anticipating some kind of a frenzy of being a free agent.
• 43:45
  I think at this point it's fairly obvious he's going to be
• 43:48
  a free agent. Like he's going to get to the
• 43:49
  point that other teams can openly, without breaking any
• 43:52
  rules, negotiate with him. And that will include the
• 43:57
  Vikings. Hopefully it's already included,
• 43:59
  the Vikings, but I just just doing that little cap experiment
• 44:04
  there kind of proved it to me that like, unless you're selling
• 44:09
  out for 2024 and you know you can win the Super Bowl, I don't
• 44:13
  think it makes any sense to try to sell out for Kirk Cousins
• 44:16
  long term. But, and if they do, I'm super
• 44:20
  pumped. Let's go.
• 44:21
  Kirk is a good quarterback on the field.
• 44:24
  He's amazing and I love cheering for him in the, you know, the
• 44:29
  salary cap. That just makes it tough to sign
• 44:32
  other players. Well, we'll have a lot to talk
• 44:38
  about. Yeah, as that news develops.
• 44:40
  And yeah, we'll see what happens.
• 44:44
  Yeah, maybe we can talk about that on our on our brewery tour
• 44:49
  that we're going to take this summer.
• 44:53
  We are definitely going to take that and we will have lots to
• 44:57
  talk about on that too. Yeah.
• 44:59
  Oh yeah. And a lot of good beer to try.
• 45:01
  A lot of good beer to try, a lot of miles to drive.
• 45:04
  Maybe Big Top can give us a gas card to go on that trip a little
• 45:10
  bit. But it's not a bad idea.
• 45:14
  We might have to stop by contrary.
• 45:16
  Yeah, I'd love it. This beer has been fantastic for
• 45:19
  me. It's super easy drinker.
• 45:20
  Yeah, like, I like. It it feels weird to say a
• 45:23
  crushable red ale, but this definitely, I mean for me it's
• 45:27
  it's a crushable beer like 5%. So nothing crazy but enough and
• 45:33
  good flavor. But again not like an
• 45:37
  offensively crazy amount of flavor.
• 45:40
  Like it's just a good beer. Like they they hit the nail on
• 45:43
  the head. I really, I do feel kind of bad
• 45:46
  because I feel like we just like simp for every beer that we've
• 45:51
  ever had. Like, we've never said a bad
• 45:53
  thing about a beer on this podcast, have we?
• 45:55
  Like even the cobbler gobbler we were both like, is this actually
• 45:59
  good? Like.
• 45:59
  That one got me off guard, like I wasn't expecting it to be as
• 46:03
  good as it was. And that one, I mean, we The
• 46:06
  thing is, we we don't, we don't put on a show like when we crack
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  open a beer and we try it in front of the camera, we are.
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  We like to like beers and like sure we're pretty open that like
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  Amber's are not my go to and hazy citrusy Ipas are not
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  necessarily your go to but. But I like.
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  Them the worst we've ever said is like, I mean, it's not the
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  first one I'd reach for, but it's pretty good.
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  Like I'm surprised at how much I like it.
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  Like I'm not surprised that I like this one this much because,
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  I mean, it seemed to present itself very well and it smelled
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  good. The 2nd, we cracked it open.
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  But I I like how much I like it. It's a good beer.
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  Yeah, I've rarely met a beer that I didn't like.
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  Yep, they've only been like a handful in my life.
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  I can think of 2A Jalapeno beer by a local area brewery, and I'm
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  sure every brewery has a jalapeno or whatever, so it's
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  not like they're the only ones but a jalapeno beer.
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  And then there was one that a friend of mine got when we were
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  out to dinner somewhere and it was a 420 themed beer.
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  And we are not ones to partake in in that substance, but I mean
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  power to if you do. But I have smelled that
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  substance. I think anybody who's an adult
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  has has smelled it, even if it was in like middle school and
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  the police officer brings it to school to like have us all
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  smell. It I'm a high school teacher and
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  you just have to walk into the bathroom, right?
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  But that beer, I took a sip of my friend's beer, and I don't
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  even know that. Like, I'm not just trying to
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  keep the name out from from being out there.
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  Like, I just don't remember it. I know it had something to do
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  with 420 in the title. I took a sip of it and it tasted
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  like that stuff smells and it was awful.
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  It's the worst beer I've ever had.
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  I'd rather chug 10 jalapeno beers, then take one sip of that
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  terrible 420 beer. Wow.
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  Well, now I want to know I'm going to have to do some
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  research. Google would probably tell you
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  really quick, but yeah, this one is.
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  It's a good one. I like it.
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  Thank you. Contrary, contrary.
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  Please let us know how to say your name.
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  I think Evan has it. I just.
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  I want to know how to say it. So let us know.
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  I feel pretty confident it's contrary, but who knows, maybe
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  maybe they have a a different emphasis on the other syllables.
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  I do have the same hold up with confluence, confluence,
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  confluence out of Des Moines I. Don't know.
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  I think it's confluence. Contrary Confluence I don't
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  know. I could be wrong too.
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  Yeah, and we're OK with being wrong, just like we're both
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  wrong and they're going to sign Kirk and win multiple Super
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  Bowls with him. School.
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  I shouldn't say we're both you're you're in the camp of
• 49:05
  signing Kirk. I I would like to see Kirk back,
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  but I don't know. Like we've said, the writing is
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  more and more on the wall. He's very expensive and the
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  Vikings just don't have the money to keep him around.
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  So I'm I'm softening to the reality that that will be the
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  case. And I'm I'm starting to turn my
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  mantra of don't pay running backs almost into the don't pay
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  Kirk because he's not 25, he's 36 with the bum Achilles.
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  That by all indications he's looking good and should be
• 49:40
  healthy and hopefully great. Looked good.
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  Dancing at the NFL awards was. It Cam Jordan.
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  He was standing next to a guy that has openly mocked him
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  before. Like, I don't know, I guess
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  they're. I guess they're good.
• 49:51
  Let bygones be bygones, I guess. Kirk doesn't seem like the guy
• 49:54
  to hold a grudge, unless you're you're Mike Zimmer on the
• 49:57
  sideline and you just threw a touchdown to win the game and
• 50:00
  you grabbed Mike Zimmer's chest. If I could have any wish, it
• 50:04
  would be to know what that was all about.
• 50:08
  Yeah, I'm sure only a few people know all the details.
• 50:11
  If you know, let us know. Mike Zimmer, New New old.
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  Cowboys defensive coordinator? Yeah, kind of making his full
• 50:19
  circle back to. I liked him as a Vikings coach.
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  Overall, he did more good than bad.
• 50:25
  Yep, it made sense at the time to get rid of him, But.
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  Yeah, I was a good coach. I don't disagree with you.
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  I think he was a very different head coach than Kevin O'Connell
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  is. Oh yeah, I I think KLC is
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  definitely a player's coach. I think players like playing for
• 50:41
  him. I think players would run
• 50:44
  through a wall for him. Zimmer was more of the old
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  school hard nosed. Like I don't care about your
• 50:50
  feelings. Yeah, do what I tell you to do.
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  Nobody cares. Work harder.
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  Yep. And I I don't know, I I I think
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  there's there's value in both. But I prefer Kevin O'Connell.
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  Yeah that's my opinion. I.
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  Prefer whoever can get the Vikings to a darn Super Bowl
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  win? Not even just there.
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  Well, we got to get there first. And oh man, we've only been
• 51:16
  close a handful of times. And the handful of times that
• 51:19
  we've been close, it's been heartbreaking, yeah, in our
• 51:22
  lifetime. That's very sad.
• 51:23
  I almost don't ever want them to make it because I I feel for
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  young Niners fans who haven't had the chance to see their team
• 51:30
  win it like the how deflating must it be to watch your team
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  lose the Super Bowl. Especially when they don't
• 51:38
  understand the rules in overtime.
• 51:39
  Yeah, and that's the players, so.
• 51:44
  All right. Well.
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  Good beer. It's been it's been a good beer.
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  It's been a good episode. Great episode, I would say.
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  Yeah, we got another good one in the docket for next week.
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  Yeah, top players of all time. Yeah, yeah, that was a fun one.
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  So, all right, well, till next time.
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  Let's go. Let's go.
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