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Foster and Friends Vol 144 Media Days · Foster and Friends

• 0:02
  SPEAKER_07: This is Foster and Friends with former coach Bud Foster and his co-host Mac McDonald.
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• 0:54
  SPEAKER_08: The success that we experienced last season was a team.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_08: It wasn't eating individuals, it was guys sacrificing maybe their personal goals to come together for a collective goal.
• 1:05
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• 1:10
  SPEAKER_07: Now, from the NSB Radio Network, Foster and Friends.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_07: Here's Bud and Mac.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_10: Welcome in.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_10: It is another Foster and Friends, ATC Media Days.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_10: Everybody else having Media Days.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_10: Uh Bud and I are going to dive into that.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_10: And uh do you remember?
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_10: So it's kind of an anniversary for Bud and me in a way.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_10: It was 2004.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_10: Virginia Tech was moving into the Atlantic Conference, and we've told the story a thousand times.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_10: But if you're new to the show, we'll say it and we'll tell you again.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_10: Bud and I got paired in a golf tournament in Greensboro.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_10: And uh Bud said to himself, I'm not gonna speak for you, but Bud said, Oh my god, I got paired with a who.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_10: He goes, I gotta play with their announcer.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_10: Are you kidding me?
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_10: I looked at the sheet and went, Are you kidding me?
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_10: I got the defensive coordinator at Texman kicking Virginia's you know what forever.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, we're we're in the same golf cart.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_10: Well, needless to say, four hours later, our golf cart looked like Animal House 2.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_10: Is that is that close enough to the story?
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_12: That is very close, Mac, you know, and it's and you know that that that uh created a relationship that led to this, obviously.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_12: But you know, that was I do remember like, are those guys really serious?
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, I'm talking about the ACC.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, pairing this these two guys together, one from UBA and one from tech.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_12: You know, I mean, are they are they right?
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it was kind of a blind draw.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_10: I remember, and also we had two guys, we had two writers who were pretty good golfers if I remember.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_10: I can't tell you who they were, but uh because that was that day is just kind of a distant.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_12: I can't remember, I can't remember who it was to be.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_10: I didn't remember lunch that day.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_12: So let's go to show you ways you said were animal house too.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_12: Right, but right.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_12: I might have gone home and took it to the hotel room and took a nap.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_10: Well, Bud said, you actually carry vodka in your bag, and I said, on days like today, yes, which is so we anyway, it was it was a great day.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_10: It was a lot of fun, and Bud and I got to to be pretty good friends at that point, and um, but those two guys, my point what I was gonna say was those two guys were really wanting to win, and Bud and I could have cared less about you know how many under we were.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_10: It was a captain's choice, it's normally a four-hour cocktail party anyway, and that's the way it uh that's the way it turned out.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_12: So I do remember I was playing probably at that time in my life.
• 3:40
  SPEAKER_12: I could hit the golf ball pretty.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_10: Oh, you were yeah, you were a good player.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_12: I know how you play.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_12: We were probably all right, but you know, by the end, like you said, those guys were taking it seriously, and we were like, hey, okay, I hit pass me another T Dose.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, that was, but anyway, that's uh anyway, a good memory.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_10: Today we I called the show Media Days today because we're gonna hear from James Franklin, Tony Elliott, uh, you know, kicking off the uh ACC Media Days.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_10: I do want to uh declare we are recording on the day that a lot of the ACC stuff is happening.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_10: So we're gonna recap that next week and we'll have some other stuff for you.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_10: But we do want to talk about this time of year for football coaches, what's happening, some ACC stuff, what's gonna be addressed.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_10: Also, Jim Phillips and what you know what he's uh talking about as well.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_10: But there's no doubt the big discussion will be the college football playoff, how many teams, and then with you know, the ACC trying to figure out the nine-game schedule too, which uh which I think will make a big, big difference.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, no doubt.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_12: And that there's there's a lot to discuss, and uh, and it'll be it it's gonna be fun to hear from Jim about the sort of sort of the state of the union, you know, with ACC football.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_12: And uh I'm excited for the season.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_12: I think there's some really talented football teams this year, and uh I think it's gonna be a wide open league, a very competitive league.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_12: And so I'm anxious to hear from from the head coaches as we move forward with this uh ACC Media Day.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_10: All right, well, but and I'll go to break here.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_10: This is a good transition, and uh we'll come back.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_10: Jim Phillips is gonna kick us off.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_10: As I said, we will not get his official 2026 Media Days address until next week, but uh we've got some things to talk about, and uh he did talk about the protection of college, and that's what he's all about.
• 5:28
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• 7:00
  SPEAKER_10: It is Foster and Friends, and it's uh Media Days, which we'll uh dive into even more uh next week with everything happening.
• 7:07
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• 7:14
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• 7:15
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• 7:17
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, you heard the bump, Jim Phillips talking about the protection of college athletics.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, bud, Jim Phillips is the fifth commissioner for the Atlantic Coast Conference.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_10: He was a student manager uh at Illinois.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_10: If you have a son or daughter who's managing uh their basketball team or their football team, well, you could wind up a commissioner.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_10: He became the fifth commissioner in 2021.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_10: Uh the waters have not always been calm.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_10: Are you uh, and plus you're working, you know, in the ACC with everything that you're doing, would would you give Jim Phillips a very high approval rating for guiding the Atlantic Coast Conference?
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I I I do.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_12: Uh I I I like Jim personally.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_12: Um I I like um his background, um, I like uh his mindset.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_12: Uh I do my I don't know how to say this, I do feel like not just the ACC, but I think the ACC and the Big 12 are looked at upon, and even like now the up and coming Pac uh Pac-10 or Pac-12, whatever you want to call it.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_12: And even prior to them separating, you know, that league separating and joining the uh the Big Ten and the S and the ACC, um I just feel like we're kind of looked upon as stepchildren, huh?
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_10: Stepchildren?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, yeah, as opposed to the Big Ten and the and the you know the SEC.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_12: And um, and a lot of this has to do with um the TV contracts and things of that nature.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_12: And and uh because just a few, I'm talking a handful of years ago, uh and the ACC was beating the Big Ten and the SEC in football.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_12: And I thought that you know that I thought the ACC was more in tune with the SEC as far as athletes and and football programs and going to the Big Ten and beating those teams, you know, and uh uh and being competitive against the SEC.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_12: But all of a sudden that's uh that's changed.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_12: And that's where I think if if I have any concerns about our leadership, it'd be how we negotiate through that next phase of TV contracts and putting our our programs and our in our in our con and our conference on that same level as the Big Ten in SEC.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_12: You know, and uh now you know I think that's a big challenge for Jim and uh you know his administration to be able to compete and and to get to that level.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, we're obviously looked upon as a you know as a basketball league and was, so to speak.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_12: But then now there's some there's some challenges with the Big 12, what they've done, with the Big Ten, what they've done, um, you know, and the FCC what they've done from a you know from you know just a basketball standpoint.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_12: Uh and we can talk about our championships, but you know, in most cases here recently it's been in the so-called the Olympic sports, and uh, and you know, we've got to get back to where we're competitive um in the in the in our in our revenue sports.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_12: And I know this, that's where I think the Big Ten Commissioner, uh obviously the AC SEC commissioner, they there's a priority in who the institutions hire as head coaches, who they have, you know, what they're um, you know, how much uh there's an emphasis on uh sports within those uh those two conferences, you know.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_12: And uh so I that's where I think the challenge is for Jim.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_12: I other than I like what he's about.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_12: I he's very transparent, he's very open, he's uh addressing the issues.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_12: We just, in my opinion, we need to be we we need to strong arm ourselves, you know, back on the table a little bit.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_12: Now I'm hoping Jim is that guy that can do that.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, he again and I'm gonna go back to last year because his message this year is gonna be similar uh to a point.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_10: Last year, 2025 media days, Jim Phillips talking about the transition and where we are as uh really as as a business, as college, you know, as college sports.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_01: As we move forward and continue to meet this true reset moment, we must remember that everything will not be perfect immediately.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: We know we must get this right, which we take very seriously.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: We're being thoughtful about every detail and are committed to progress through learning, adapting, and strengthening the model to support and protect college sports for generations to come.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, Jim Phet, that was last year.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_10: And again, next week we'll talk about uh, you know, we'll get some stuff from his address, which is uh, you know, today when when we are recording.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_10: But let me ask you, because naturally the big topic is gonna be uh, and he's gonna get the question about hey, you've come forward, you've said 24 teams would be pretty good in the playoff.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_10: Are you in favor of 24 or is that too many trophies, just participation trophies that we're handing out?
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_12: No, I don't think there's too many teams or too many we're just giving trophies out because you know the the FBS is expanding.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_12: I think there's now around 138 teams, I believe.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_12: It's 136 or 138 teams with that.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_12: We've gotten a couple new additions from you know, going from FCS to FBS.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_12: Um now is it is the number magic number 16 or 24?
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_12: Uh I don't know.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_12: I I I do like 24 when you start talking all those, and that gives you particularly the the the power of four conferences, it gives you at least uh a couple of those schools from each league, probably that deserve an opportunity to compete.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_12: Because as we know, I mean, uh it's just not one that deserves to be there, you know.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_12: But uh, but that's part of a conference championship, you know.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_12: You you do those.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_12: It'll be um at the end of all, I I it'll be interesting to see how that unfolds.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_12: But I'm I'm for expanding um the um the playoffs.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_12: Now, whether it's 16 or 24, I I don't have a strong feeling either way.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_12: Obviously, 24 opens the door for a few more teams.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_12: And I think it's exciting for the fan bases and that type of thing because it's gonna be reminds me of college or pro baseball a little bit since they've started this the wild card.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_12: You see a lot more teams and fan bases are involved to the very end.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_12: And I think you know, there's always gonna be disappointment, particularly in in the way the college football system is, because it's based off of votes by a uh board of writers and things of that nature in a lot of ways when you start talking about the at-large teams.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_12: Um that's my only drawback.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_12: I I I I wish it would be more involved with this true scheduling and their percentage of wins and losses against the quality teams rather than and I'm sure that goes into the formula, but still there's also the AP poll, the you know, all the different polls that writers and or other people are involved with that maybe don't always see the teams play and have an impact on that.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_12: And I just where you know pro sports, it comes down to there's a it's an equal opportunity, so to speak, but then it comes down to head-to-head, and it comes down to their winning percentage against certain uh, you know, within it, whether it's in the league or you know, out of league, however, they do their formula, but I I'd like to see it just get back to that and uh what it happens on the field of play rather than through a group of writers that feel like this this program is better than this other program deserve to be in there.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_10: Well, yeah, and you bring up such a great point because everybody and I uh the a couple days ago breakfast, and my wife and I were talking World Cup and you know things.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_10: And so the headline was I think it was uh last Monday morning, and I think the headline was FIFA considering in 2030 64 teams.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_10: Oh my god, I mean 64, 64 countries to go.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_12: How many countries do we have in the world?
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_12: I don't even know.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, that's probably well that'd be like saying, well, might as well have a whole playoff.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, uh with you know, your that's the one thing.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_12: There's 138 things when basketball, how many there's that's the one thing they're going to what are they, 60.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_12: They're talking about expanding now basketball.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_12: I don't know what that number is.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, so something like that.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, but you've got about 500 um, you know, division one basketball programs.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_12: Where football, you really only have, you know, so I think it's relative to the size of the amount.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_12: But I I I really I I like 24 myself.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_12: I think that could be a good number and be competitive.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_12: And uh, but then I would love to see it follow the format of a NFL model that I would love to see instead of playing at neutral sites, do that and maybe at the the end of the season for a semifinal game or a national champ in the national championship game.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_12: But prior to that, I think you know the top seeded team should play at a home field advantage, I think, you know, or at their home field and um uh and and just get that going and play right after the season.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_12: Don't wait two or three weeks, you know, if you're uh if you've got a bye team.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, let's go ahead and play right away and get it going and you know, like the NFL does.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_12: Because if not, I really think that hurts nowadays.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_12: It doesn't always help to you know sit down and have a bye week.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_12: Or in some cases, it's a it's a couple weeks for a bye week, you know.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_12: And that turns out to be a detriment to the team that's sat out because only one team has won in the previous eight meetings, and that was Indiana last year, and they were just a dynamic football team.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, but everybody else who's had that buy in in college football has lost.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_12: And they didn't play at their home, they played at a neutral site, and I think that's a disadvantage once all said and done.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_10: All right, good well said.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_10: All right, we'll go to break, we'll come back.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_10: James Franklin talks about the history of Virginia Tech and it needs to return to uh Blacksburg in the area.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_10: Also, the ACC putting together the nine-game schedule.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_10: How is it gonna work?
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_10: We'll cover that when we come back.
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• 19:05
  SPEAKER_10: Great to have you along.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_10: That was the voice of James Franklin uh talking about turning things around.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_10: We'll get into a couple of really uh good comments with him.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_10: He had an interview with um uh you know a couple of coaches and sitting down and you know and talking football, which is which is good.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_10: He's comfortable with his new staff.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_10: And you know, he tells a great story about uh Michael Vick and Frank Beamer coming to practice, and he tells the team, do you guys know who these guys are?
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_10: You know, so pretty good stuff.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_10: Before we do that, uh Bud and I were talking before we uh started to record today, uh, regarding the ACC and what they're gonna do.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_10: Now that because the conference was 17 football teams, the schedules are unbalanced.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_10: Most teams are gonna play nine, five teams are gonna play eight, and but I guess winning percentage is gonna break the tie, at least as we talked about conference championship games.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I mean that's that I guess that's how it has to be done, you know, because you've got uh I know Notre Dame, uh, they're in that, you know, you they're playing.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_12: I think what are they playing five or six games this year of ACC?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_10: I think we looked at it was eight.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_12: Is it eight?
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, they knew it was more right.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_12: They have eight.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_12: So they're playing a seasonal significant amount.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_12: But um, yeah, it's because you have uh nine teams, or it's gonna be eight, not counting Notre Dame.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_12: It's gonna be eight and eight, you know.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_12: Or excuse me, you've got five, it's gonna be um, it's gonna be uh um, what is it, five, it's thirteen or sixteen.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_12: We got what we got, sixteen.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_12: So you've got 11 teams that are gonna be playing nine games, you know.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_12: So it has to go down to a percentage of your wins uh and your win-loss record, you know, as you get into a tiebreaker and that type of thing.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_12: So it's gonna be interesting to see how they determine it.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_12: And it is, it happens to be, you know, Clemson's one of those that's only playing eight, Georgia Tech's playing eight, Florida State playing eight.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_12: Then you got UNC and BC, but um, you know, you're you're talking about you know, several uh three of those teams that have been competing, you know, throw Florida State in there because they're of their p their history, but um, you know, is that gonna give an advantage by playing one less game?
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_12: Uh it shouldn't, as far as you know, the win loss percentage.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_12: But I think it's a good thing.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I'm gonna back up.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_10: I think it's seven.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_10: Um, because I I wanted to look at that Notre Dame schedule and and be sure.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_10: So they've got North Carolina, they start in October after getting Purdue and Rice and Michigan State, because they've got Notre Dame's got Carolina, Stanford, Miami, Boston College, SMU, and Syracuse.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_10: So that that's their uh yeah, that's their ACC uh run that they have.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_10: Um so anyway, but as far as in and dealing with what you know James Franklin's made a splash now.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, every every interview and and we'll have more next week for you, but boy, he he has just made a splash and And just the things that, you know, about the program, what's happening with the program.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_10: And he, you know, the story of Vic and Beamer, he wants the media and the fans to remember the glory of Virginia Tech football.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_11: The media remembers that Virginia Tech.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_11: The fans remember that Virginia Tech, but none of the recruits do.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_11: You know, they they haven't seen that.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_11: So that's a challenge, right?
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_11: Is get them to understand what this place has been all about.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_11: And we got some pretty good momentum right now and doing some good things, but then we're also gonna have to put that on the field.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_11: You know, we're gonna have to show everybody evidence of what this place can be.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_11: Um, and we're excited about the opportunity.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_10: And before I throw it back to Bud, and here's the great thing about James Franklin it's not that he hasn't been through a rebuild like this before.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_11: You know, we did this in the SEC at Vanderbilt, had a ton of success there.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_11: We went to the Big Ten and and did something similar.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_11: And now we got a chance to do it again, and and we're gonna need your guys' help to do it.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_11: So that those stories I think resonated uh with some of the families and kids that we didn't know, and then the ones that we did, you know, they already kind of knew the story and wanted to be a part of it.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_10: But correct me if I'm wrong, and there was a word we uh was a I don't know, a couple of months ago, you and I were talking about, and and you came up with a phrase or gave me the phrase, donor fatigue.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_10: And uh where you know, where people say, well, okay, we're putting 25, 30 million into a roster, we're getting no results, you know.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_10: I'll I think I'm gonna hold off this year, whatever it might be.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_10: You're right in the thick of it because you're you're shaking hands and kissing babies as well.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_10: But that puts because of the excitement around uh with Virginia Tech fans and James Franklin, that puts you guys in a pretty good spot, right?
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_10: Would you say?
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, it does.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_12: I think, you know, number one, the hire of James Franklin, that's that's got to be one of, you know, you're talking about one of the top coaches in the country at the time of his dismissal, which I know um, you know, I we still I scratch my head over that.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_12: Uh but we're we're the lucky one.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_12: And then for our university to make a commitment to uh be competitive financially, um, you know, and give us the resources we need to uh for our student athletes to have the best facilities uh possible uh and and to help James in recruiting and his staff in recruiting.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_12: But I do think the revenue share now helps us too, you know, with some of these programs that um can have a hard time competing with the NIL space, at least they can create a roster and and um and help the student athletes financially, the ones that they're looking for.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_12: And and then hopefully for us, as you know, we've we've had some a couple big uh commitments financially.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_12: And I think that's what happens when you'd be able to attract somebody of a James Franklin type mentality, and then they get a chance to be in front of him and see what a dynamic person he is, not just as he's he's already proven head football coach, but a dynamic person and why these recruits are gravitating to James Franklin.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, he's just a forward thinker.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_12: Um and uh and he's right with about what about Virginia Tech though, too.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_12: Uh it's been since 2019 since we've been relevant.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_12: And uh, you know, these kids that are being recruited now, you know, we're 10 years old.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_12: Some of them may not even been watching TV or watching college football and that type of thing, let alone know who Mike Vick is.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_12: When you start going back to 2000 to even you know 2010 and 2011 when we were uh you know played in the you know back-to-back orange and sugar bowls, you know.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_12: It's um but um so yeah, I mean we're now in a position because of James Franklin.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, I well, I say this because of our commitment from the university, we're able to attract a guy like James Franklin.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_12: But then now putting those pieces together, um you know, we got a new AD.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_12: Uh we just hired a new leader for our hooky club, which is our fundraising arm, um, you know, for our student athletes and for our our our uh athletic department.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, and a lot of these people are involved in that forward-thinking, evolving mindset, and so which I'm excited about because we do need to move forward in that next phase of this whole process.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_12: But uh yeah, I mean, um, I'm excited for what James is building.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_12: Um, and he's kind of used the mantra re-established because he knows what this program's been like and what it's capable of doing.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_12: And it doesn't need to be reinvented, it just needs to be re-established, and that's kind of his his focus.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_12: And he's trying to educate the players and the families who he's recruiting about you know the what this program has been, because you can sometimes look at a program's future and be and and what it's gonna be like off of its past.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_12: So I think that's what he's banking on with this program and what his his vision is.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_10: And how lucky we are to live in the Commonwealth and to see, and of course, uh it'll tra this transitions in the or next segment with Tony Elliott and talking about okay, this is a program that that did get to the championship game.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_10: Can he sustain it?
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_10: And where does Virginia Tech you know fit in that?
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_10: And you've got very two very proud programs that could be uh you know re-emerging.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_10: So, and to to get to that uh uh you know to that conversation for sure.
• 27:39
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• 27:40
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  SPEAKER_10: Welcome back.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_10: It is Foster and Friends, and our uh program today called Media Days.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_10: We're gonna uh hear from Tony Elliott here in just a second.
• 29:28
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• 29:29
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• 29:35
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• 29:36
  SPEAKER_10: Okay, so Bud, we were talking about the, you know, okay, a rebuild, how important it is, but you know, you guys did it for year after year after year.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_10: How did you, how did you guys sustain the, you know, the winning ways and the belief?
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_10: And you know, I know it can you you can build on recruiting and now you got the portal to kind of rebuild and and that kind of how did you guys do it year after year?
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_12: You know, I mean it was relationship driven.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_12: Obviously, it goes back to um the relationships we developed with coaches and that type of thing.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_12: It wasn't a there wasn't a money factor, you know, at the time, other than you know, facilities was a it was in was extremely important at the time.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_12: Um you know, it really was.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, go and that was something and we had really good facilities, and that's something that we kind of let that slide by a little bit.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_12: But um, but more importantly, it was just relationship driven.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_12: And we really worked hard within the state to um not just recruit the players, but recruit the coaches, recruit the administrators, recruit the guidance counselors.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, we did our homework with you know who was in the school that could help us, you know, number one, identify.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_12: Well, we identified our student athletes, but then we wanted to know the truth about them.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, because we weren't always getting the top four, you know, there wasn't stars at times, but we all know who the elite players were.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_12: And we weren't always getting that that guy.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_12: So we had to do our research and make sure we were getting the right guy, you know, that wanted to compete, that had the qualities and characteristics we were looking for, um, you know, to that our program was about.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_12: And um, but then as we got to where we started winning, it was a little easier.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_12: And people with better talent was attracted to Virginia Tech because when you win, you know, how do you spell fun is W-I-N, you know?
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_12: Uh and so that's what we were doing.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_12: People were coming here and having fun because we were winning, kicking buttons, taking names, you know.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_12: But it was all relationship driven, and we worked hard at that.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_12: And then when the players were here, uh we coached them hard and we loved them even harder because we coached them hard.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_12: But at the end of the day, they knew we had their best interest at heart, both on and off the field.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_12: And our players then became our best recruiters because once we brought kids on campus, they could feel that that true family atmosphere.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_12: That's what we sold, and that's really the bottom line, that's how we did it.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_12: And it wasn't, it wasn't anything, you know, some crazy philosophical deal.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_12: We just we outworked people, we outprepared people, and I think we outloved people when it was all said and done.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, we really did because we, like I said, we coached our kids hard, but we loved them harder because we needed to, you know what I mean?
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_12: But yeah, we had a group that just loved to compete and and um and then they didn't want to let each other down when it got to that point.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_12: And that's kind of what families do, right?
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, you're not always gonna be you gonna you gonna b bicker with your your sibling, and but at the same time, the other day, you're gonna love each other, you know, and we care about each other.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_10: Well, I think that's you know, and and I think Tony Elliott, I'm sure, is aware of that.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_10: And watching your uh, you know, what has happened, you just heard the bump of Tony coming into this segment, belief and attitude, and how important it is.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_10: And now, you know, trying to keep it going and chase the success of last year.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_08: Chasing success, I think everybody is hungry and and they have the discipline, but managing it is the hard part.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_08: And so the message has been keep it simple, right?
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_08: Let's not let's not, you know, panic or think that we have to reinvent the wheel.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_08: Let's just double down.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_08: Uh, just focusing on the ABCs.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_08: And so that's been the theme, and it's the attitude.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_08: Make sure we got the right attitude day in and day out, and that's just an attitude of humility, uh, an attitude of of of work, um, an attitude of getting better day in and day out, and then a belief.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, the belief system, keeping things simple.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, all you know, a lot of coach speak words, which we're gonna hear at media days too.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_10: I had a question when you were talking just a minute ago.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_10: Have you ever, like, I don't know, seen Coach Beamer at a you know, at a social function or whatever?
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_10: And have you ever just asked him the question, Coach, how good would we have been if the portal was alive during our time?
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_10: Did you did you guys ever discuss the portal?
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_12: Well, we did.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_12: The question was because of the talent level that we had, you know, our there might not have been a portal guy you could yeah, yeah, you know, but we'd have been able to keep them.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_12: Nobody would leave.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, the biggest challenge, I think, because of the talent level that we were able to attract and bring in, and you know, and then with the the open market the way it is, sure, you know, we need to find guys with deep pockets.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_10: Well, I I understand that too at that time because the portal does become now.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_10: You're looking at that$25 million roster, that$32 million roster, whatever.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_10: Anyway, Tony Elliott, the belief system with the team, it's got to be evident.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_08: Uh, every team has to have a true, unshakeable belief.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_08: Because at the end of the day, the success that we experienced last season was a team.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_08: It wasn't any individuals, it was guys sacrificing maybe their personal goals to come together for a collective goal.
• 34:56
  SPEAKER_08: And so it's just been the ABCs.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_08: Let's keep it simple.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, and you know, it's amazing.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_10: And I read a great article uh this week from The Athletic, which you and I talk about how you know how good it is.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_10: But now the the teams they're picking to maybe you know win the national title, um, they're looking at why they're not gonna win it.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_10: Case in point, Indiana.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_10: Uh the re it says quarterback Josh Hoover just doesn't have it.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_10: So Indiana should not be in the championship picture.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_10: Ohio State turning over most of the starting defense, a brutal schedule.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_10: It's gonna catch up with the buckeyes.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, as I said, these reported reporters are really good.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_10: This article was written by Stuart Mandel, who's one of the best, right?
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_10: And uh he's looking like Penn State, Clemson, and LSU all had preseason national championship hype.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_10: Last year, they all went seven and six.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_10: So no matter who we talk about or how we position these programs, these coaches have these coaches are on the, you know, not for long, right?
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_10: Isn't that what they used to say about the NFL?
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_10: You don't win.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_10: You're that's what it stands for.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, and that's college, college athletics is getting that way because of, you know, now because of the roster, roster management, roster, and roster management.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_12: I'm throwing that in there, salary and all those different things, and being able to handle the um oh the personalities and things of that, you know.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_12: I think that's the and I I I really like uh Tony's approach, and and I think him and James are very um aligned in their philosophies and thinking.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, being an unselfish team first mentality, you have to have that.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_12: And if you don't, you're not gonna be successful.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_12: I don't care in what industry you're in.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_12: You know, if you don't have everyone working in the same direction, um, that's hard.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_04: You know, that is hard.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_12: In today's day and age, it's harder, particularly with the the turnover and and position.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_12: And that's one thing I have heard about you know, Indiana with the the new quarterback is just uh, you know, he's gonna be different than the guy they had a year ago.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_12: And that that position is so key, and I think any team's success as you move forward.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_10: Um it and especially that with the cost of the roster now, and I'm gonna get into the donor fatigue thing, which I just touched on.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_10: The it's hard to believe that, and I would love to be in a and it's been a long time since I've been in a football coach's war room back to the Al Gro days.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_10: I used to go there and look at the recruits.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_10: Now, and you can probably tell me because you've looked at it.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_10: Um, next to the recruiting board, we're gonna we want this guy, want this guy.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_10: Maybe there's a portal board as well.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_10: But you are they putting dollar figures now?
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_10: Like, okay, here's our starting 11.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_10: This guy makes this much, this guy makes this much, all right.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_10: Our roster or whatever, 120, 105, whatever we can have now, it totals 32.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_10: million or whatever.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_10: Are coaches doing that?
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_10: Are they putting the dollars and figures on the whiteboard as well as the the people and the personnel?
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I think that's where this whole GM staff now is expanding to because you do have college football is almost becoming like the NFL.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_12: You have your high school recruiters, you know, or your your recruiting staff is really focused on high school and helping the high school or the college coaches identify them.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_12: Then you have your portal coaches.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_12: It's kind of like in the NFL, they have their uh scouts that just scout the NFL rosters and who's gonna be available, you know, free agency and that type of thing.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_12: And but I do think where the age of AI and analytics is moving forward is being able to place a value on these student athletes now.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_12: So um, and project, but sometimes projection can be scary.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_12: It comes down to what are you doing now, what's important now.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_12: You know, we can we can talk about that, but you know, I think that's where guys like Tony and James, they're really talking about building a team, and and I don't know if they're wanting to buy a team as much as they are wanting to build a touch culture and then being able to keep that roster by being able to pay them on top of that, not paying them up front, but paying for the work they've done.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_12: And that's that's got to be a great salesman and that type of thing.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_12: But I do think there is analytics now that can place a value on these student athletes, and I think that's where uh the fine line comes into success is getting the best bang for your buck.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_12: And maybe it might be taking away one guy that's his potential may be uh and his value might be at 1.2 or 1.5 million, and you might be able to get two guys for half that, you know what I mean?
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_12: And and they may be more productive at the end of the day.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_12: So I think that's where the the chess match kind of goes nowadays because they can use the analytics to place a value, and that that is to answer your question.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_04: That's a lot, yeah.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_12: They're they're they're able to do that now.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_12: And um, and so it's interesting, you know.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_12: And I was able to sit in a meeting and them explain the business of college right now and how they assess their student athletes and particularly guys in the portal when it's when it's all said and done, how they place the value on their and their importance of position-wise as well.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_12: So that's that's been pretty cool to see that part of.
• 40:28
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• 40:30
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• 40:31
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• 40:34
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• 42:07
  SPEAKER_05: And are they gonna, you know, what's the next number and are they gonna play it right?
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_07: From the desk of former coaching great Bud Foster.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_07: This is Foster and Friends on the NSB Radio Network.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_02: Why don't you try?
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_10: Welcome back, it is Foster and Friends, and uh, you know, with summer halfway over, we're heading to heading to the dog days.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_10: Uh Bud and I were just talking about this before we started recording today.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_10: The Rolling Stones released a new album.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_10: It's their 32nd studio album.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_10: It's called Foreign Tongues.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_10: Mick Jagger's been doing it for 64 years.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_10: You just heard Mick.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_10: Uh, they formed the band in 1962.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_10: If you want to feel old, uh, they have 66 and a half million albums sold in the United States alone, 250 million sold overall.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_10: And uh so with Foreign Tongues, they are doing it again, but just a little sample.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_10: Anyway, that's just some of side effects, which you said was one of the tracks that you picked uh from Foreign Tongues as well.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_10: So um I don't I'm not a lot of blues, Paul McCartney, Stevie Winwood, Bruno Mars, they're all part of this new album.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_10: But uh how do they keep doing this, bud?
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_10: Like you and me, we just kind of keep hanging on here.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I think that's the that's the case.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_12: You know, I was fortunate to be able to see the stones when they did their last big tour.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_12: And the I was in the stadium uh down at uh at uh the the football stadium down in Carolina.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_12: You could shut your eyes and just listen to the music and it sounded like you were listening to an album.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_12: That's how good.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_12: And I will say this, you know, Mick's Mick's voice, I mean, it's wide range in this album, you know, like it is.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, he'll play his slow cutting.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_12: They did all their stuff, like a little country, little reggae sound, and then rock and roll.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_12: But I think uh Keith Richards and Ron Wood, when it's all said and done, this album just shows how connected those two guys are, as far as you talk about some great, in my opinion, great guitar music just intertwined together, the music they've been making since 1962.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, I think phenomenal, phenomenal uh music when it's all said and done.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_12: And it's amazing to do it at 80 plus years old.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, it's uh well, it's a lot of fun.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_10: Well, this is um not their title track, but it's the first track, and it's the one that I think they've released.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_10: At least uh uh a lot of the the satellite stations are playing it.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_10: This is called Rough and Twisted.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_12: Unlike you and me.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_02: Why don't you drive?
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_02: Damn that room, that twisted room.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: Why don't you get to go?
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_10: Anyway, just a taste of foreign tongues, which is uh gonna be you know part of your summer.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_10: By the way, if I asked you, do you can you name the top five of album sales, the groups of the top five?
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah, the stones are four behind Beatles, Queen, Pink Floyd, and just ahead of Led Zeppelin.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_10: And as far as the sales, Beatles, Michael Jackson, Elvis, Elton, and Queen, the Stones are 16th.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_12: Which is amazing.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, I know it's just you know, I think in if the Stones were in today's era, I mean, the way the numbers as far as dollars and things of that nature, they would be off the charts.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_12: I mean, you just don't see the bands uh have the longevity like these guys, you know, had.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_12: That was the cool thing about our era.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_12: There was they the band stayed together so much.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_12: Right now, it just seems like there's so many one-hit wonders and different things.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_12: It's just so cool to see these guys, the longevity.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_12: And I think they're gonna play until they they're all put in a coffin.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_12: I think it was all set done.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_10: It's that's I mean, Keith Richards looks like he's already there.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_10: But anyway, it's uh it's it's iconic.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_10: Foreign tongues.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_10: Pick it up at where you well, you can't pick it up at a record store anymore.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_10: Those you those are the good old days.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_10: Well, for Bud Foster and Mac McDonald.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_10: That's our show for the day.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_10: Next week, as I said, we will recap uh a lot of the media days and uh and what was said actually, because we are recording early.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_10: I hope you have a terrific weekend, okay?
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_12: And we'll know you got a big party coming up, so I'll be able to catch up with you and see how your recovery is going.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_10: Well, call call me Friday night and I'll I'll give you a uh give you a little video intro.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_10: We'll do.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_10: Thank you, bud.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_10: Appreciate it.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_10: We'll talk soon.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_10: Foster and friends, NSB Radio Network.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_03: I'ma put this down, I'm a top scale, the mouth is perfect.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_02: I'ma fucking my shadow.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_02: What you talking about?
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