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TWR Monday | Boomer Biden Bungle's AI · The Whitfield Report

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  Now broadcasting from the Next Gen. conservative studio in
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  sunny South Florida, bringing you the latest in politics,
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  current events and pop culture. This is the Whitfield Report
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  with Sam Whitfield. Hey there, folks.
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  Welcome to the Monday edition of the Whitfield Report.
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  I am your host, Sam Whitfield, recording here on a Monday
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  afternoon with Mr. Blame Max Sand.
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  It's not. It's not the same without, like
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  you play the intro 1st and I get that.
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  That killer fucking baseline. Yeah, no, but I mean, the
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  audience will hear the intro because you know what?
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  What? What I just missed out on it?
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  Great. Yeah, wonderful.
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  But anyway, welcome to the show. Real quick announcement, just
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  some general housekeeping things.
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  Next week there will be no show because I'll be vacationing on
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  an. You know, to an undisclosed
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  location, so I'll be gone next week and then the disclosed
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  location in the Middle East as as I understand it.
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  Yeah, go. Going to go fight some
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  terrorists or some or something. Which side you choosing, Sammy?
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  Gonna gonna go live out my You know this book made me fiction
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  full IDF like head to toe with star David Flagg.
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  May maybe. Maybe, you know, who are you?
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  Are you going to rock that, that Palestinian look, that classic,
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  like, black mask? I mean it is.
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  Aesthetic, right? Well, you know what?
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  What would What would John, What would John Ryder do?
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  Huh. You've got to.
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  You've got to read, probably. He'd probably like start taking
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  out the Renegades of both sides to spend some real justice.
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  Well, you've got to read Shadows of Deception to find out.
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  So you know link in the description.
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  There you go. And that's and that's how you
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  plug, ladies and gentlemen. And that's how you plug.
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  I spoiled it, too. He's a he's a renegade.
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  He's going to do his own thing. No, no.
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  What's what's worse, Max, is that you've spoiled book #2 like
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  the book that hasn't even come out yet.
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  You've. You've spoiled so, so Greg, he's
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  a man of principles, right? And so he's going to want to end
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  the war and but he understands the grim realities of life, so
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  he's going to have to take out the warriest of the warlords of
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  either side, you know? And he and he's also going to
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  have to take on the military industrial complex, probably
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  with some decently cool fucking vehicles along the way.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. If not Sam, you better add some
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  cool vehicles, because what kind of spy doesn't have cool
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  vehicles? Well, at well, have you read the
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  have? You can live without gadgets,
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  right? Gadgets might even just be a
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  Bond thing, right? But you got to have the cool
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  vehicles and like the the exotic hot women.
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  Have you read the? Have you read the?
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  Have you read the first one? Yeah, but I'm trying not to
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  spoil anything. Yeah, no, you know.
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  Apparently some of the gearheads in the show have, like,
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  criticized my use of like old convertibles, To which I say why
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  it's fiction. Your criticism?
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  Was there criticism of you being wrong about it?
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  About something. Be oh be well, because the 1968
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  GTO, there was no way it could have been bulletproof because of
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  like. Making it bulletproof would have
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  weighed the card down, and that's And they were pretty
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  fucking heavy to be fair. But they're probably already,
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  let's say, bullet resistant. Yeah, they could probably take a
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  few before that steel hole that they have on them fucking caves
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  in just naturally. It's it's, you know, it's
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  fiction though, especially low caliber like you can get away
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  with. Yeah, it's fiction.
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  It's a fucking spy thing. You got to have something
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  exciting. Yeah.
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  What happened to To suspend your disbelief?
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  We we can. And you went American car
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  because you're not fucking British.
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  Yeah, yeah, no. And because and because that
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  trope because the British, the British super spy trope has.
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  Already been overdone, but nobody has really done the
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  American super spy trope. Especially like America.
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  You know, like the fucking American muscle car.
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  Yeah, that's pretty. I mean especially in that time
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  period. I mean John Wick kind of did it,
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  but not like not to the not to the extent that like you know
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  we've and I've done it basically.
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  I want, I want Eagles shooting, firework, guns with American
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  flags flapping in the breeze, American Pie, apple pie, warm as
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  you fucking want, and some hot dogs and a baseball game going
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  on. That's going to be where you're
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  next, fucking where the whole thing ends, right?
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  Yeah, pretty much, pretty much America.
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  Fuck yeah. Because why not UN ironically,
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  America? Fuck yeah.
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  See, America? Fuck yeah.
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  Was ironic, but I am UN ironically America.
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  Fuck yeah. No, no.
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  The thing of the thing of it is, is like, that was ironic.
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  But yeah, like there are people who UN ironically.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So anyway, so on to the communist computer gangster God
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  that was prophesied. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  So deck in the 50s in his schizophrenia, anyway.
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  So, like, well, you know, look, everyone's been talking like the
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  Middle East and you know, the part where the fucking communist
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  computer government God thing in the sky, it it sorts people by
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  their ethnicity. He even got that right.
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  Yes, it's amazing, beautiful. It's poetic.
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  We live in his nightmare. Yes.
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  So, you know, we live in a world where Francis Edek's worst
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  nightmare, induced by the worst bout of schizophrenia ever that
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  he wrote about for years, is actually real.
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  Well, well, what's funny, Max, is we'll we live.
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  We now live in the dark future. Except we don't have any neon
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  shit. Or do we have it's not cyberpunk
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  because we don't have the punk part or the cyber.
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  We just got the fucking bad parts.
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  We just got the corporations that spy on everything in the in
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  the shady government, in business for itself, in the like
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  threat of world wars every which way you look.
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  We got we got all that bit, but we don't.
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  I don't have gorilla fucking arms and I don't have double
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  jump legs and I don't get an implant.
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  We don't have the style either. We got zoomers with them.
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  Fucking fluffed up haircuts and shit.
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  Awful. The worst cyberpunk dystopia
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  ever? Yeah, we, yeah, we don't even
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  have flying cars like that was that was the bare minimum was
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  flying cars. The bare minimum among Boomers
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  was like, I'd love to live in the Jetsons where we have flying
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  cars and robots and it's like, well, we got the the, the the
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  the robots are bad. They're like, they don't work
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  properly and but the and the AI is stupid.
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  But they've still managed to use it to brainwash the average
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  idiot with their fucking DEI shit and put put the computer
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  chip in your fucking thumb and all it is.
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  It's a fucking GPS tracker. Gee, I wonder what that might be
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  good for. Yeah, well, and.
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  And it's not even anything useful.
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  It's just AGPS tracker so they can fucking know where you're
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  at. It's not, don't worry, it's not
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  the government. This corporation knows where
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  you're at. That's fine.
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  Yeah, and also and TikTok knows when you take a shit.
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  But that's fine. It's fine because we got what we
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  got what and trade for this dystopia.
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  We didn't even get cool clothes. See this?
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  Stupid rubber fucking boots. I, I, I could future shit.
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  We didn't get fucking cyberpunk shit.
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  We didn't get anything cool. We didn't get Star Trek shit.
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  We didn't even get Star Wars shit.
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  See, see, Max isn't sad that we're that we're living in a
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  dystopia. He's sad that we're not living
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  in a cool dystopia. It's it's the least cool
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  dystopia you could possibly imagine.
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  We got. We got VR, But it makes me sick
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  after about 15 minutes. You know what I mean?
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  Like. Yeah, I do love.
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  I do love it. I have it fucking right next to
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  me. I play fucking the drums mostly
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  on it. There's this Viking drum game
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  and I sit there and wear myself out like a fucking maniac.
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  It's a good workout thing for when it's fucking cold and shit,
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  but like, yeah, we don't get anything cool and then Joe Biden
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  wants to take over. Great.
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  We're going to have the Grandpa Joey out.
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  Yeah. So terrific segue because.
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  And and real quick before we get into this article, ladies and
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  gentlemen, he's going to make AI do the thing.
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  You know the thing. I do want to point out that Max
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  like actually, because see, we were we were talking out this
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  before the show. Like a lot of people saw the
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  clip of Max Hekagon Secret Agent Boomer, which is hilarious and
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  should be viewed by everyone. But the part that everyone
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  missed is the fact that or a lot.
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  Or the thing that everyone glossed over was the fact that
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  Max was saying that Boomers in Washington should not regulate
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  this shit for this exact reason. And then he and then he got mad
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  because I he said, well, this whatever topic, I think it was
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  elections, he said was decided at the state level.
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  And I was like, yeah, but look at the state.
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  The state level is full of tech illiterate boomers.
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  Not just boomers, period. OK, but tech illiterate or
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  borderline tech illiterate boomers populate the halls of
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  Washington and the halls of your State House and the halls of
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  your town council. They are tech illiterate
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  boomers. They do not know that their
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  children and grandchildren are like, literally being fucking
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  groomed into putting their nudes online by pedophiles that they
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  met in Roblox. They don't know any of this
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  fucking shit. They don't know how YouTube
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  works. They don't know how YouTube
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  censorship works. They they don't know how
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  podcasts work. They don't know how the Internet
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  works. They have Facebook where they
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  post pictures of their fucking dog.
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  Max, Max, you're you're giving them too much credit, OK?
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  The the boomers in Washington, they don't even know how to use
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  their smartphones. I kid you not.
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  I'm I'm. That's why I'm not giving it
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  credit. They literally have somebody
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  else who posts on Twitter for them.
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  They might say the thing that gets posted, they might tell oh
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  hey, blah blah blah blah blah, but they're not even fucking
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  doing their exes or their tweets or whatever the fuck you want to
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  call. I'm still going to call it
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  tweets forever. I've been on Twitter for 15
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  years. They just give me my anniversary
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  thing like, oh you've been on Twitter for 15 years.
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  My response was like I reposted it with what a waste of time.
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  They you can call it fucking X. You can call it fucking dog
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  shit. It doesn't fucking matter.
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  It's a tweet. And these people, they tweet by
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  saying, hey, Zoomer staffer, you're my tweeter.
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  Now say this. Or make a tweet that's funny or
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  make a tweet that That's why they're all snarky now.
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  No, that's what Democrats like. They like.
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  They like mean spirited, snarky like AOC.
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  Well, because. Well, because I think AOC tweets
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  for herself. But AOC is not a fucking boomer.
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  Well also I think. Here's The thing is I I think, I
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  think they think that like, Oh well since Trump did it and it
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  worked for him. Like if we do the exact same
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  thing it'll work for us and now but, but but Trump has been in a
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  different position than them because he's always had
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  goodwill. It like he's like politicians
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  inherently will split people 5050 about them like
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  automatically off the gate like 40% of the population decides
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  they don't like you because you're the other party.
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  OK, but like Trump wasn't that Trump was an entertainer.
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  He was a businessman. They all liked The fucking
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  Apprentice. You can you can listen to all
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  the shit that everyone talked, but they all tuned in live on
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  Monday nights back in the early 2000s to watch The Apprentice.
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  It was the number one rated fucking show almost the whole
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  time. Yeah, no, no.
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  And I and I and listen, I was no exception.
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  I liked the the He wasn't even the entertaining part of the
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  show, to be fair, but he was front and center through the
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  whole thing. The entertaining part of the
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  show is people trying to navigate these hoops.
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  He's putting them through, but usually you could understand the
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  nature of the hoops even. It was just kind of a stupid
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  challenge for a reality show. It was a little bit different
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  than Survivor, where Survivor was all themed on being a
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  survivalist or whatever. It was like, hey, you need to
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  convince people to buy this product on the spot and don't
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  even know what the product is. And as A and as a kid like.
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  Me watching that and a bunch of other people were like, wow,
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  like starting a business is actually like really cool.
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  Like Shark Tank. Shark Tank's still one of the
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  top fucking rated shows in the world, right?
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  Yeah, I it's a it's a fascination people have with the
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  drama of a small or independent business.
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  Unfortunately. The thing about that is, is
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  people kind of speak with their wallets in a very different way
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  and they all in the end and and we're all guilty of this, go to
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  Walmart instead or you know, whatever's easiest rather than
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  supporting small businesses because they cost a little more
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  and they might not have the the thing you want right away or
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  whatever. It's just easier not to, it's
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  easier to order on Amazon or something.
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  But we are all interested in the story, in the, in the drama, in
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  the of the small business, and it makes for great television.
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  Yeah, so getting back to the subject of AIII do want to bring
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  this up. I I want to start off by saying,
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  and I apologize to the regular listeners for repeating myself,
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  but on the off chance that we have new listeners, I want to
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  emphasize that AI is not going anywhere.
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  It's not a fad. It's It's basically here to pan
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  around. Yeah, it's not new either.
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  We just recently this year had Kurt Doolittle, who's an expert
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  in the field. And Speaking of, you know, we
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  were saying I was talking about tech illiterate boomers.
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  Well, Kurt's the exact opposite. He was involved with the
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  creation of some of this stuff. Right.
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  And he has a similar opinion to us on the topic, by the way, in
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  terms of government regulation. So I'm not saying it's boomers
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  are bad. That's not the rant.
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  Max doesn't just hate boomers. There are some things besides
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  technology. But I look to that that that as
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  a generation they did that I'm not a big fan of and have had
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  repercussions. But on the subject of tech, I'm
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  specifically talking about the kind of people that go into tech
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  or I'm sorry, go into politics or or into into the media at
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  that time didn't need to be super tech literate and now
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  they're just fucking basically tech illiterate.
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  Right. Long ago, you didn't need a
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  fucking cell phone. I lived in a fucking cell phone
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  free life right up until I had my son and I was happy and I was
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  fine. You don't need to be plugged in
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  all the time, but but now it feels like it's been forever, so
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  that we all are. And people that that's so new in
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  the span of their seventy year life.
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  And you also don't have a lot of other things in common with
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  them, just so you know in terms of how you live your life
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  because they're that old. So.
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  But they don't know technology. There's boomers that built this
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  fucking technology. That's why I bring up Kurt
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  Doolittle. We could have him on.
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  He can explain how AI works in exhaustive detail to you because
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  he knows he's shit. It's not all boomers, but the
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  people that don't know it. Like, I don't know, maybe out of
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  the blue, like let's just throw a name out there.
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  Joe Biden now on a Nationalize it, essentially.
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  Well, let's let's break down this headline, shall we?
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  So this comes from variety of all places.
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  Even variety, like because that's where you get proper news
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  now. Well, I I'm entertainment.
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  Websites like even, even even Variety knows that this is kind
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  of that something's mishear. So headline Joe Biden Grew more
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  worried about AI after watching Mission Impossible dead
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  reckoning, says White House Deputy.
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  And that this is 1st. We have a lot of fucking
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  problems going on. Why the fuck is he watching any
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  movies at all? Sorry.
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  Not sorry he had. He had a big fucking and and
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  people don't even know this the other day, like like a couple
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  weeks ago they had a big Sunday BBQ right when the fucking
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  terror attacks had broken out. Yeah, they had a band.
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  They had a band on the White House lawn and the IT was an end
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  of summer BBQ for Joe and he had plenty of vanilla ice cream,
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  ladies and gentlemen, just so you all know and you're aware.
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  But yeah, yeah, no, he saw a movie and then decided that he
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  was scared of AI. Well, did you ever see
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  Terminator? Yeah, well well, this is the
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  whole thing. Matrix.
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  Yeah, So President Joe Biden signed an executive order on
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  Monday establishing new standards and security measures
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  regarding sorry, sorry. Regarding artificial
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  intelligence, Deputy. The White House chief of staff,
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  Bruce Reed told the AP by a time that AI is an issue of great
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  importance to the president, who was, quote UN quote, impressed
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  and alarmed after seeing fake AI images of himself and learning
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  about hold up, hold up how much you want to bet what he saw was
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  the president's Let's Play video games channel that they got
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  where him and Donald Trump play video games together.
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  How much you want to bet? That's what they showed him.
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  Oh, yeah. Oh yeah.
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  The the GTA, you know, thing where he and Obama and Trump all
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  like, rob a bank together or something.
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  Yeah, great. It's, it's hilarious.
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  It's and it's actually kind of wholesome.
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  Like they're buddies, you know, and they tease each other
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  straight. But that's like if if, if they
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  showed him anything, I feel like they would have showed him one
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  of those clips, right? And then, like, we have to stop
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  this, Sir. Well, that's the whole thing,
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  right? Is so we can't have a generation
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  of kids thinking you were playing GTA5 with Obama and
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  Trump? So I don't want to.
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  I'm not going to raid this whole thing.
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  But essentially, what happened? Well, that might be a disaster
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  somehow for the country. If kids think you played GTA
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  with Obama and Trump on a fucking Let's Play channel, it's
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  the worst thing in the world. It's not like we got wars
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  breaking out. It's not like we're funding wars
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  all over the place. It's not like we're starving and
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  poor. It's not like there's fucking
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  homeless veterans. It's not like the fighting.
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  Nah, Nah, we got to worry about the President's play GTA on
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  fucking YouTube. Great job and fucking Mission
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  Impossible. Great job Joe.
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  I mean we. I mean Max, we can laugh, but
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  this is this is basically like the this.
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  Palace. What else is there to do but
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  laugh? I know, right?
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  But what? What they got Distinctive?
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  Things Joe. Glad that this.
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  Man. And they're like, Mr. President,
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  we have something really important to show you, and it's
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  him playing fucking GTA with Trump and making jokes at each
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  other. And he's like.
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  We need to nationalize AI. No.
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  And welcome. To the machine and that is that
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  is how to. Get our communist computer
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  gangster God that Francis E Deck prophesied.
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  And so if that's the case, then he's a prophet and I'm going to,
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  I'm going to start taking what he said a lot more seriously and
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  that is that is exactly what is going on, so.
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  Basically beat up on a flight out of fucking New York airport
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  and dragged off in the woods. Maybe that?
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  Happened. I don't know anymore.
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  So basically, Obama. I mean Biden.
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  Sorry, I I I tend to conflate Obama and Biden together now.
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  I wonder why. Yeah, yeah.
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  So basically, you know what? Fuck it.
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  Oh, Biden. Let's just, let's just put the
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  let's just, let's just make it easy.
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  Oh, Biden basically signed an executive order, which basically
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  he wants to watermark AI or he wants to basically like put a
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  label on anything that is created with with AI.
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  Which may sound good, but here's the problem is even the most
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  mundane thing that is, hey, it's an egregious First Amendment
• 22:40
  violation, first and foremost. Ah, but that's the problem is
• 22:46
  they let them fucking label video games and movies and
• 22:50
  albums, yeah. Yeah, it's almost like you mean
• 22:55
  well. It's almost like the road to
• 22:57
  hell is paved with good intentions.
• 23:01
  Yeah, but no. If.
• 23:03
  Here's the thing, If you're going to label things with AI,
• 23:07
  then basically like every paper that I've ever written is now
• 23:13
  going to be labeled as like created with AI because the.
• 23:18
  Sam's a Cyborg, ladies and gentlemen in the news once we
• 23:22
  got that in the New World. Sam Whitfield is a Cyborg, so we
• 23:27
  have a cyberpunk dystopia. Well, no think, think this way,
• 23:30
  Max. So the way I.
• 23:32
  Cyborg intelligence. That's amazing the way I the way
• 23:36
  I've always written papers using voice, using voice.
• 23:41
  Voice to voice to text. Sorry, yeah.
• 23:44
  Voice to voice to text, that is, it's not AI in the in the way
• 23:49
  that we generally think of it, but it is it.
• 23:51
  Is AI in the way we normally think of it?
• 23:53
  That's the thing. Is AI than the way we normally
• 23:55
  think of it. Isn't this magical, omnipotent
• 23:59
  being like the Terminator. That's that's not what ChatGPT
• 24:03
  is or ever could be, right? Yeah.
• 24:08
  But no, I I mean I speak into. Explain that to a boomer well.
• 24:13
  Joe Biden. Joe Biden's worst.
• 24:14
  Joe Biden's not a Boomer. You know this.
• 24:16
  He's a Silent Generation guy. Yeah.
• 24:19
  No, no that that's that's true. At least at least Trump is like
• 24:24
  the bare minimum of, like, the oldest tier of Boomer.
• 24:28
  Yeah, I'm saying, but like, still, it's all boomers doing
• 24:31
  the regulation. From the top on down.
• 24:33
  There's only a few people who are like Gen.
• 24:36
  X, basically didn't didn't get invested in politics.
• 24:39
  There's not as many. Nearly Gen.
• 24:41
  X politicians in in these offices, even in your local
• 24:44
  vicinity you might see a few more but in the national scene
• 24:48
  they're almost non existent and and like millennials are now
• 24:51
  just coming of age to get into politics.
• 24:54
  And the the the oldest millennials have only been old
• 24:57
  enough to run for president for like a year and a half.
• 25:00
  And they're and they're not. And they're not really
• 25:02
  interested in running either. Vivek is the first millennial to
• 25:06
  run for president under a major party.
• 25:09
  Yeah. And and they're and they're
• 25:10
  really not interested in general.
• 25:13
  That's not true. That's not true at all.
• 25:16
  Millennials. Now, that's not true.
• 25:19
  They are. They are interested, but they're
• 25:21
  they're older, they're not activists.
• 25:24
  It's different. They vote.
• 25:26
  They vote in larger numbers than Gen.
• 25:28
  X and the boomers did. And that's true.
• 25:31
  The next election Millennials are the the the majority voting
• 25:36
  bloc. Rumor's last election as the
• 25:40
  majority voting bloc was last 2020.
• 25:43
  I I'm not saying I wasn't saying that, that they're not
• 25:46
  interested in voting. I'm saying that they that, to me
• 25:50
  at least, it doesn't seem like millennials are interested in in
• 25:52
  running for. For I would.
• 25:54
  I would strongly disagree. I I would say that most of this
• 25:57
  Trump movement is on the back of millennials.
• 26:02
  OK, Well, yeah, that that, that is.
• 26:04
  Hmm, yeah, actually you're right.
• 26:07
  Now I think about it because. Yeah, yeah, that's the big
• 26:11
  right. I Max has never been more right
• 26:14
  about anything. The Trump brand of the GOP is
• 26:18
  the millennial brand of conservatism.
• 26:20
  And you will always be that. And we're going to be the we're
• 26:23
  going to be the majority for a long time, at least until Gen.
• 26:26
  Alpha. We'll see.
• 26:28
  We'll see then. Like like the Zoomers, both Gen.
• 26:31
  X and the Zoomers have significantly less people than
• 26:34
  us. And significantly less people
• 26:36
  active in in voting now zoomers, you expect more of them will end
• 26:39
  up voting and less of them will be activists as they get older
• 26:42
  because that's what always happens.
• 26:44
  But they they we still outnumber them significantly.
• 26:48
  So like yeah, millennials are going to be a force in politics
• 26:51
  and for good and for bad because that means the left too.
• 26:55
  This new brand of more radicalized leftism is a little
• 26:59
  bit. Yeah, it's a millennial brand of
• 27:00
  it. Sure.
• 27:01
  It's a counter. Acting, I guess, to the to the
• 27:04
  Trump brand of conservatism. But that's going to be the
• 27:07
  fucking battlefield going forward.
• 27:09
  And I've said this since the beginning, and it was destined
• 27:11
  to happen. If it wasn't Trump, it was going
• 27:13
  to be somebody else. Because Rush Limbaugh didn't
• 27:15
  have 30 fucking million people listening to him every day for
• 27:18
  no reason. And he wasn't really represented
• 27:21
  by the Bushes because he said so.
• 27:23
  He made more money during the Bush administration than he did
• 27:26
  during the Obama administration. Criticizing the Bushes.
• 27:30
  He had more listeners at that point.
• 27:32
  Because people were fed up. So I don't, I don't know,
• 27:37
  there's a lot going on. And and yeah, millennials have
• 27:40
  been affected by a lot of political incidents, more than
• 27:43
  other generations. We had 911, We had the war.
• 27:46
  We had the recession. It's it's interesting.
• 27:48
  It's interesting. That the election of Obama,
• 27:50
  which was a big deal and primarily was on the backs of
• 27:53
  millennials as well, for better or for worse.
• 27:55
  Yeah. It's also interesting Sting that
• 27:58
  you bring up Rush because like a lot of millennials, and I'm I'm
• 28:04
  one of them, there was there was a whole generation of kids known
• 28:09
  as Rush babies. I I was one of them because I
• 28:13
  grew up listening to Rush. It's like 2 generations.
• 28:18
  Because I I grew up listening to Rush with my granddad in the
• 28:21
  90s, listening to him talk about the fucking deficit.
• 28:25
  And and I'll tell you, the deficit he was complaining about
• 28:27
  then was a lot smaller than it is now, right?
• 28:32
  I think we should bring back the fucking dollar bill.
• 28:34
  Deficit ribbons. That'd be fun.
• 28:36
  Well, it's. Always for inflation.
• 28:38
  Now instead of the deficit, a dollar inflate an inflation
• 28:42
  ribbon you wear just to keep people aware.
• 28:44
  Cause goes by and flake it couldn't have bitch.
• 28:46
  It's cumulative. Well, also though, that this
• 28:50
  brings up, this brings up a good point.
• 28:52
  We we So we want to talk. Like if you cut it in half, it
• 28:55
  goes down. That just means it went up by a
• 28:57
  little less, you fucking moron. Yeah.
• 29:02
  So, no, it's interesting that you bring up the 90s because one
• 29:09
  of the things that that has been brought to, one of the things
• 29:15
  that Rush actually mentioned was that back in the late 80s, there
• 29:20
  were a lot of, there were a lot of Democrats that wanted to
• 29:25
  nationalize the personal computing industry, just like a
• 29:29
  lot of them want to nationalize AI because.
• 29:32
  They wanted IBMIBM had to play ball, yeah.
• 29:37
  Like to a degree that people don't even understand IBM in
• 29:40
  order to not yet nationalize, basically had to nationalize
• 29:43
  themselves. And that is why IBM is not the
• 29:47
  powerhouse that it used to be in the 80s.
• 29:50
  Or in in before, right in in the mod, because they were shackled
• 29:54
  at that point. But then.
• 29:56
  They didn't get the they they didn't nationalize the computing
• 29:58
  industry, right? So then the competitors who
• 30:01
  popped up all these like cheaper manufacturers like HP, Dell, so
• 30:05
  on. They could use the Windows
• 30:07
  operating system and sell way cheaper than IBM we're using
• 30:10
  because they agreed to only use proprietary parts and only blah
• 30:14
  blah blah blah blah for American, made American this,
• 30:17
  American that. All these other companies
• 30:18
  weren't fucking handcuffed down by that and they just drove IBM
• 30:22
  into the dirt. The only thing IBM does now is
• 30:24
  super computing. Well, no.
• 30:26
  You you want to know? What's funny is I I was reading
• 30:29
  that. And like theoretical shit, but
• 30:32
  they don't make product. Like when's the last time you
• 30:34
  bought an IBM product? You probably never have.
• 30:40
  I never have. Like like like like.
• 30:42
  I I know that my. I know that like, back in the,
• 30:46
  like, right before I was born. I know that.
• 30:48
  I know that my mom had like, an MS-DOS machine, like in her Home
• 30:52
  Office. But that was like in 1990.
• 30:56
  That was like in 1993. And she had, she had a, she had
• 31:01
  like a Windows computer, like at our office.
• 31:03
  But like having a having a gooey or a graphical user interface
• 31:08
  like that was like a luxury thing like, you know?
• 31:11
  That but you could get one cheaper at a very quick pace.
• 31:15
  They the prices because even even IBM compatible still had to
• 31:20
  follow the IBM. Deals that they made with the
• 31:23
  government did you like so like Tandy the the RadioShack one
• 31:27
  they they still had to adhere to the same rules because they were
• 31:30
  making IBM compatible products and IBM compatible products got
• 31:35
  beat the fuck out by Microsoft and OEMs like Hewlett Packard
• 31:40
  Dell I'm I'm trying to think of some of the other old old school
• 31:45
  ones but they just they just wiped the floor with them yeah.
• 31:49
  And that was because they got handcuffed down by this
• 31:51
  government regulation that was done in the same spirit.
• 31:53
  Just, I'm glad you brought it up like that, because it was done
• 31:55
  in the same spirit of these computer.
• 31:58
  This computer industry is going to wreak havoc in our culture.
• 32:02
  So we have to regulate them all. And IBM was like, OK, we can
• 32:06
  operate under these guidelines. And then all the other
• 32:10
  competitors who came along later were like, well, they're not
• 32:12
  going to nationalize us. Why would we follow your stupid
• 32:15
  fucking guidelines? We can.
• 32:17
  We can make more money than you, right?
• 32:19
  You're our bitch now. And they're going to do the
• 32:22
  exact same thing with AI. Yeah, well, they're.
• 32:24
  Going to ensure that one corporate mega over corporation
• 32:29
  runs all the AI. Yeah, and which which ironically
• 32:35
  Max. OK, so I haven't seen it.
• 32:37
  They're not. Going to be an American?
• 32:38
  They're ensuring it won't be an American one either.
• 32:41
  Well, also Max, Like, what's hilarious to me about Bite and
• 32:44
  for? Everybody learn some Chinese.
• 32:48
  Well, what's what's hilarious to me about Biden freaking out
• 32:51
  about the Mission Impossible movie is I haven't seen, I
• 32:55
  haven't seen the Mission Impossible movie that they're
• 32:57
  talking about. But from why I've been told like
• 33:02
  spoiler but one of the whole things is that the the evil AI
• 33:07
  that takes over and Mission Impossible.
• 33:10
  One of the problems is that it is it is overly controlled by
• 33:14
  like 1 central entity. Well, yeah, but like, you can't
• 33:17
  expect him to pay attention to a 90 minute film.
• 33:21
  Well, yeah, that. That's true.
• 33:24
  You know how many ice creams they had to bring him in the
• 33:26
  screening of this movie? Sam?
• 33:30
  Probably like probably like 5 or 6.
• 33:34
  Yeah, I I'm. That's a long time for him.
• 33:38
  He probably had to poop at least twice.
• 33:42
  Probably. And probably a dish of
• 33:45
  applesauce with his medication mixed in, too.
• 33:47
  That's 90 whole minutes, bro. Well, no.
• 33:51
  But what I'm saying is if Biden actually was.
• 33:53
  Ancient. Well, what I'm saying is, if
• 33:56
  Biden were paying attention, or let me put it this way, if if
• 34:00
  any of his aides were paying attention and and like, actually
• 34:02
  summarized the movie well for him, they would know that like,
• 34:07
  no Mr. President like regulating AI is what actually caused,
• 34:12
  like, this terror attack to happen.
• 34:15
  Yeah, but they're communists. Oh yeah, Well, that, you know.
• 34:19
  They want to regulate everything with an AI, Yeah, yeah.
• 34:24
  Like so. COVID teach you nothing.
• 34:29
  That they will jump at any opportunity to make themselves
• 34:32
  feel like even the most petty of tyrants that's ever existed.
• 34:36
  Well, yeah, I know. I know that.
• 34:37
  But but what it But what's funny to me is like, supposedly Biden
• 34:41
  is freaking out about the thing that he himself is like
• 34:44
  creating. That's what's hilarious to me.
• 34:46
  True. Maybe he doesn't.
• 34:48
  Yeah, he doesn't care. They gave him an ice cream and a
• 34:52
  fucking laxative and he was good.
• 34:54
  I I do want to play this clip from the Island.
• 34:57
  No. What?
• 34:57
  Like, there's no way he knows the extent of, like, poverty
• 35:00
  right now. There's no way he understands it
• 35:04
  no well. There's no fucking way he
• 35:09
  probably to him like. To him, poverty is probably like
• 35:14
  not having like the latest. No, there is one way.
• 35:17
  There's one way, if he's a sociopath, which is possible.
• 35:23
  I mean, the thought has definitely crossed my mind that
• 35:28
  that's possible. Well, I think they're all, to
• 35:30
  some degree a bit of a sociopath.
• 35:33
  I think you have to be to seek those jobs, yeah.
• 35:37
  I think most normal people don't want the fucking weight of that
• 35:40
  on their shoulders, but unfortunately what that leads to
• 35:42
  is corrupt and crooked men taking the reins of that power,
• 35:46
  yeah? And then we watch him fiddle as
• 35:51
  Rome burns and eat ice cream as inflation goes through the roof
• 35:55
  and says hey guys, it is only half as bad as last year.
• 36:00
  Oh yeah. On top of the last three years.
• 36:02
  Wow. Thanks, Joe.
• 36:05
  Yeah. The most inflation we've ever
• 36:08
  experienced in our whole life happened in three years, but
• 36:12
  it's only half as bad this year. Thanks Joe.
• 36:16
  Great job. And yet.
• 36:18
  And yet, regulating AI is like more of a concern to him than
• 36:22
  fixing the economy. Well, because he he can't.
• 36:27
  Because then the greenies will be mad at him, which which by
• 36:30
  the way like regulating AI would actually would.
• 36:37
  All this is and is is like an excuse to regulate your software
• 36:40
  in general and I I I want to play this.
• 36:42
  There, bingo. There you go.
• 36:45
  I want to play this clip from the All In podcast because they
• 36:50
  actually do a better job of summarizing this whole thing
• 36:52
  better than I do. And for those who don't know.
• 36:57
  Nobody does a better job than the Whitfield report, Sir.
• 37:01
  Well, they do a fantastic job over there.
• 37:03
  What was the show, The the All on podcast?
• 37:06
  Yeah, a wonderful show, which I don't know if you've if you've
• 37:10
  ever heard these guys, but they're basically a bunch of.
• 37:12
  Not in my life. I have no idea.
• 37:15
  OK, so they're a bunch of them. They're venture capitalist.
• 37:20
  Based They're venture capitalist guys and actually two of the
• 37:26
  guys on the panel started as like being like fairly liberal.
• 37:31
  But because of all this woke shit they've gone more like
• 37:34
  conservative over time which is which is actually pretty
• 37:38
  fascinating. I I do want to play a clip of.
• 37:40
  What primary interest in this podcast is in the business
• 37:45
  aspect of IT as well, yes. OK so I want to I want to set
• 37:53
  this code because they go over the basically Biden one and
• 37:57
  troglate this stuff and if if you want to jump in at any point
• 38:03
  Max let me know. So I'll queue up the the clip
• 38:09
  here. No, it'd be.
• 38:12
  It'd be interesting to hear it from the business side of things
• 38:15
  because I I have a feeling I know what they're going to say
• 38:17
  then, yeah. Because it's obvious to anybody
• 38:20
  in any business that you know. What he What he's proposing is
• 38:24
  not a great idea. Yeah.
• 38:26
  All right, so I'm not going to play the only I'm not going to
• 38:29
  play the whole of this. But I'll play enough of it to
• 38:32
  get a point. So this is from last week's On
• 38:36
  Podcast clip #4 go. Let's transition from one bubble
• 38:42
  to the most recent bubble. So AI regulation, given the
• 38:46
  frenzy and frothiness and fear mongering on AI destroying the
• 38:50
  world. Which I would personally argue
• 38:54
  is largely fear porn. The Biden administration took it
• 38:58
  upon themselves to try and be leaders in regulating AI and
• 39:02
  published an Executive order on October 30th.
• 39:05
  This long anticipated executive order covers a very broad range
• 39:09
  of matters in 111 page order document covers very specific
• 39:13
  actions in very detailed terms. Yeah, I just want to.
• 39:16
  One thing is I have not read the full text.
• 39:19
  Yet it's 110 pages and I just haven't.
• 39:23
  But yeah, 110 pages though, just in general, you know, think
• 39:30
  about that. That's not a lot for an order,
• 39:34
  but for an executive order, it's kind of a lot.
• 39:37
  But it is. To be fair, it's a complex
• 39:40
  topic. It's not a lot, but think of it
• 39:43
  this way like it's enough to where the average person is not
• 39:47
  going to bother reading it, and I think that's which.
• 39:49
  Is why I'm going to read it in full.
• 39:52
  Yeah, yeah. But like, I'm sure most of it is
• 39:57
  purposely boring and kind of mundane, no?
• 40:00
  And it doesn't really say much. What we should What you should.
• 40:03
  Read. The government usually writes
• 40:05
  those things. Most of it isn't even relevant
• 40:08
  or it's like explaining who the parties are and what they mean
• 40:11
  and definitions of terms and things.
• 40:14
  How how about this? Like, I don't know when we'll do
• 40:16
  it, but like, you should. But like, if you could read it
• 40:19
  and then kind of summarize on like a future episode of the
• 40:22
  show, that would be terrific. Yeah.
• 40:27
  Some of my some of my tech guy friends have said it's
• 40:29
  essentially nationalization in the same way as IBM.
• 40:33
  Yeah, well, that phrase it was the exact phrase used, which
• 40:36
  means. It's a it's.
• 40:37
  They're going to consent to it. The main companies, which I
• 40:41
  assume would be Google and fucking Microsoft, yeah.
• 40:44
  And then everybody they are going to for a while have an
• 40:47
  advantage. But the, like I said, the
• 40:48
  problem with IBM is when somebody moves outside of that
• 40:51
  bubble that's restrained by this agreement, they're going to be
• 40:56
  able to out compete them, which means that every other country
• 40:59
  is going to be out to compete to be able to out compete them now,
• 41:02
  yeah. I'm sorry to interrupt.
• 41:05
  I just wanted to point out I haven't read the whole thing.
• 41:07
  That's 110 page document and if anybody expected that I would
• 41:11
  have read it by now, I I apologize because that's a lot.
• 41:15
  But I will. I wasn't.
• 41:16
  I wasn't expecting it because I I I was just listening to this
• 41:20
  episode last night and I was like, oh, hold on this.
• 41:23
  This would be the. Thing is, is I've read a lot of
• 41:25
  legal documents and for that reason, the reason I say Boomers
• 41:29
  are tech illiterate is because I've read so many documents
• 41:31
  related to technology. Yeah.
• 41:35
  Legal documents related to technology where they don't even
• 41:37
  understand like the simplest of fucking things, but they're
• 41:40
  making laws about it. Yeah.
• 41:42
  No. And and that's, that's the
• 41:43
  whole, that's the whole crux of the matter here, I think is like
• 41:48
  we have people who don't understand.
• 41:50
  Technically an executive order, as Joe Biden says, and he's the
• 41:54
  last person who should be regulating any technology.
• 41:58
  Of course we know it's a whole team of lawyers.
• 42:00
  Writes the fucking thing, right? We're not stupid.
• 42:03
  But technically, what an executive order means is it's an
• 42:05
  order from the executive right? So Joe Biden is telling us what
• 42:10
  we should be doing with AI. Yeah, great.
• 42:13
  Brilliant. Brilliant.
• 42:14
  He. He's a technical.
• 42:16
  You really, You really know that the guy that cheat himself in
• 42:19
  front of the Pope is you're. Fucking like.
• 42:23
  Claire, go on. Go on.
• 42:24
  Yeah. No, no.
• 42:29
  It's an executive order, so it's not legislation.
• 42:33
  And there's much in here that some would argue needs to be
• 42:36
  legislated as an executive order.
• 42:38
  It can be overturned very quickly and easily by the next
• 42:41
  administration. It largely demands voluntary.
• 42:44
  Actions and. Technology companies to submit
• 42:47
  their models, infrastructure and tools.
• 42:50
  Voluntary. Review for proof of safety.
• 42:53
  Don't. Forget the equity and.
• 42:54
  Inclusion. There's an equity inclusion
• 42:57
  component, which is that your models have to account for
• 42:59
  diversity. Equity and inclusion.
• 43:00
  Diversity, equity, inclusion. There's a phrase from the
• 43:03
  executive order. The term Dual Use Foundational
• 43:05
  Model means an AI model that is trained on broad data, generally
• 43:09
  uses self supervision, contains at least 10s of billions of
• 43:12
  parameters, is applicable across a wide range of contexts, and
• 43:16
  that exhibits high levels of performance and tasks that pose
• 43:19
  a serious risk to security, national economic security,
• 43:22
  public safety. Or any combination of those
• 43:24
  matters, none of which ultimately describes endpoints,
• 43:27
  none of which describes loss or applications.
• 43:31
  To me, this is the biggest problem I see with the executive
• 43:35
  order and with the approach to AI regulation broadly,
• 43:37
  particularly with what's being developed and has been leaked in
• 43:40
  terms of what's being developed out of the EU, which is that
• 43:42
  many of these government agencies, government actors, are
• 43:46
  trying to define and regulate systems and methods.
• 43:51
  Rather than regulate outdoor applications.
• 43:54
  For example, if you were to say, you cannot commit.
• 43:56
  No, that's important, yes. They're regulating the fucking,
• 44:00
  the process of cooking, not the food.
• 44:03
  Yeah. So this guy, David Friedberg, he
• 44:07
  is, he is kind of like a younger version of Kurt Doolittle as far
• 44:13
  as the way he speaks, because he's there into like.
• 44:16
  Well I I'm going to judge him on his own.
• 44:18
  I don't like to make those kind of comparisons but like what he
• 44:21
  said there, his concern was that it's most largely voluntary and
• 44:24
  people might say why is that a concern?
• 44:26
  Exactly what I said because you now the companies that agree to
• 44:30
  this are going to then restructure their company to
• 44:33
  abide it and that why that's why it's an executive order if you
• 44:37
  if you weren't aware because he's like oh it can be easily
• 44:40
  overturned and it should be legislated.
• 44:42
  No, they did it for this way for a reason.
• 44:44
  They get Google to say. Oh yeah, the DEI models and all
• 44:48
  that in the AI, that was the the government made us do that.
• 44:52
  That was an executive order. We're not responsible for it
• 44:56
  now. It's now it's official from the
• 44:57
  government. They told us to do that.
• 44:59
  And so they're going to restructure in such a way that
• 45:01
  that's built baked into the cake forever.
• 45:04
  Whether the thing gets repealed, of course it's going to get
• 45:07
  repealed the next time a Republican gets in office.
• 45:09
  That's not the point. The point is, they've already
• 45:11
  got these major companies following it.
• 45:14
  If. You want to dabble in AI?
• 45:16
  You have to agree to abide our fucking terms or we're going to
• 45:18
  legislate you into the fucking dirt.
• 45:20
  Yeah, that's what. The It's extorting all the
• 45:23
  companies that don't want to play ball too well.
• 45:25
  And think about it this way, like Google and all these other
• 45:28
  big tech companies like I, I I can almost bet you money.
• 45:33
  I can guarantee you that that they have lobbyists in DC.
• 45:38
  Who wrote this? Yeah, yeah.
• 45:40
  Who wrote? Who wrote this to serve?
• 45:42
  They wrote it to serve, to serve themselves.
• 45:46
  Like, yeah. To yeah, to serve those
• 45:49
  companies and fuck their competition into the dirt, which
• 45:51
  is how all this regulation comes about.
• 45:53
  And and to and to fuck startups that are like getting that are
• 45:58
  starting to get involved in AI, which.
• 46:00
  In the long scale of things, the double edged sword is the IBM
• 46:04
  effect, where now you're handcuffed to the government
• 46:07
  regulations that you agreed upon in the 80s and things have
• 46:11
  changed, right? And that's the same fucking
• 46:14
  thing will happen, but it's going to happen faster because
• 46:17
  we have a global economy now, especially with computing.
• 46:21
  And so all they have to do is just set up their AI operations
• 46:24
  in fucking Guam, not Guam, because that's AUS territory,
• 46:26
  but you. It's some fucking foreign in
• 46:29
  Zimbabwe or something. And and they're good now they
• 46:32
  have their AI farm and they're immune from your regulation and
• 46:35
  people can still access it on the fucking Internet, yeah.
• 46:40
  Oh, let's handcuff our own companies.
• 46:42
  Yeah, yeah, I haven't done enough of that in the last 30
• 46:44
  years. What the fuck you're They're
• 46:46
  outsourcing AI right now is what they're doing.
• 46:49
  Yeah. No.
• 46:49
  And and the one. Fucking thing we have left.
• 46:52
  They're outsourcing, yeah. And yeah.
• 46:55
  And one and one of the guys is actually going to bring that up
• 46:57
  here in a bit. So yeah.
• 47:01
  Fraud and Falsely impersonate someone using software you can.
• 47:08
  Rightly say that it follows the rule of law and we should be
• 47:11
  able. To Yeah, that's still fraud.
• 47:13
  In courts instead to have government agencies and have
• 47:17
  what this executive order describes as a chief AI officer
• 47:20
  in every federal agency responsible for regulating the
• 47:23
  systems and methods of all. The as we pointed out.
• 47:27
  Private companies that are building software to say this is
• 47:31
  the scale that your software can get to.
• 47:34
  You can have a certain number of parameters.
• 47:36
  If you're bigger than this number of parameters, we have to
• 47:38
  come in and check your software creates an outlandish standard
• 47:42
  and one that makes absolutely no sense, particularly in the
• 47:45
  context of the pace of a is progression.
• 47:48
  Remember the paper that was foundational to transformer
• 47:51
  model development, which is what a lot of people call AI today,
• 47:54
  which is develop these LLM and so on, came out in 2017 and
• 47:58
  wasn't really widely adopted until 2018 as a standard.
• 48:01
  We're five years into this. So the way that we're making
• 48:04
  models, the types of models we're building, the scale of the
• 48:06
  models, the number of parameters being used, the pace at which
• 48:09
  these things is changing is staggering.
• 48:12
  We are only in the first inning. And so to come out and say here
• 48:15
  are the standards by which we want to now regulate you, this
• 48:18
  is the size that the model can be.
• 48:19
  These are the types of models. And that's another thing, too,
• 48:22
  is in almost every industry, innovation outpaces legislation.
• 48:27
  In almost every industry, they've done the same fucking
• 48:30
  thing. You look at the movie industry.
• 48:33
  You look at the fucking comic book industry in the 40s and
• 48:36
  50s. You look at the fucking music
• 48:38
  industry, in the music industry almost up until the fucking
• 48:41
  2000s and and including that because the DMCA was regarding
• 48:46
  the fucking music industry originally, so like.
• 48:49
  Every major industry, the computing industry as we
• 48:51
  mentioned, was IBM. The censorship of the fucking
• 48:55
  90s where they wanted to put stickers on albums like all of
• 48:58
  this shit moves. They do this every time, and
• 49:01
  every time it either holds the industry back or it's just a
• 49:04
  pointless waste of time to give some government people jobs and
• 49:07
  money. Well, let, well let's go back to
• 49:10
  the other, let's go back even further the the automotive and
• 49:14
  this is way before either of us. Were, Yeah.
• 49:16
  They hated Henry Ford. Yeah.
• 49:18
  The the automotive industry, like the government was trying
• 49:22
  to hamper the automotive industry.
• 49:24
  Why? Because it would have, Because
• 49:27
  the automotive industry would have killed the, you know, the
• 49:30
  horse and cattle and. Television is and television is
• 49:34
  brainwashing the youth and radio is evil and.
• 49:38
  That alcohol production is the devil, and literally every
• 49:41
  industry you can point to in America at some point has been
• 49:46
  demonized and legislated by people that didn't understand
• 49:49
  it. And either they with they
• 49:51
  withstood that and became stronger because of it, like
• 49:55
  Henry Ford, or they went with the flow and fucking became a
• 49:59
  fucking subject to it like IBM. Either way, they're asking all
• 50:04
  the companies making the fucking shit now to make that choice.
• 50:07
  Yeah, Henry Ford and fight us forever in legislation and
• 50:10
  personally suffer greatly. As much as he profited, he
• 50:14
  fucking suffered in terms of his health and things.
• 50:16
  It's mental health. You fight the government
• 50:21
  forever, or you're going to be friends with the government and
• 50:23
  do what they say and sell out essentially.
• 50:27
  Yeah, those are your fucking options.
• 50:29
  And Google, we all know what Google's got.
• 50:32
  Oh oh DI. It has to have DI Hey, we
• 50:35
  already had. As a matter of fact, Google will
• 50:37
  probably say we got the DEI initiatives that everybody else
• 50:40
  can use. They they they were the ones who
• 50:43
  probably included like, hey Joe, make sure to put something out
• 50:46
  DEI they. They look on Microsoft.
• 50:49
  It's just like, oh look, our hands are tied.
• 50:51
  We got to have some DEI guys, yeah.
• 50:55
  We're we're not bad though we're not like the mother guys like
• 50:58
  we're we're we're kind of OK. We're trying to avoid the
• 51:01
  fucking political shit, but we're going to bake it into the
• 51:04
  fucking cake because the government told us we have to.
• 51:07
  They can't even be held responding.
• 51:09
  You can't even be like, oh Microsoft, you fucking, because
• 51:12
  the government said so. It's an executive order.
• 51:14
  What are you going to do? Yeah.
• 51:17
  And so even when that executive order gets repealed in three
• 51:20
  years, they're going to keep the fucking practices.
• 51:23
  And that's why he keeps focusing on systems and practices.
• 51:26
  Because it's fucking important. It's not the outcome.
• 51:28
  The outcome he's talking about. Let's say it was fraud, right?
• 51:32
  So the outcome of an AI is that they can make it.
• 51:34
  Make a Sam Whitfield AI and have him say some shit you never
• 51:38
  said, and through that, 'cause somebody to to give money
• 51:42
  fraudulently in your name. Yes, that can happen.
• 51:45
  That's an outcome of AI. That's not how AI works.
• 51:50
  And it's not like that requires the human component, the person
• 51:53
  that made that thing, to do that thing, right?
• 51:57
  Yeah. So they're not regulating the
• 52:00
  fucking outcomes, they're regulating the systems of how
• 52:02
  you get there. In the vague, vain attempt to
• 52:07
  say this will make sure that outcome never happens.
• 52:10
  Which it still will, yeah. Because if you understand how
• 52:15
  computers fucking work, and you understand a little bit about
• 52:17
  code, you can talk them. Into breaking their own rules
• 52:22
  very easily. And people do all the time.
• 52:24
  Not even not even just that. But but like malicious actors,
• 52:29
  no matter. No matter.
• 52:31
  No matter what it is, malicious actors will figure out a way to
• 52:36
  get around the laws. There's.
• 52:38
  Already there's already a dark net fucking open AI.
• 52:42
  But like a a ChatGPT made by like, the fucking dark net.
• 52:47
  And criminals that exists. Oh yeah.
• 52:52
  I'm sure it'll only get better over time and their regulation
• 52:55
  will do nothing to stop that. Yeah, no, that that, that was,
• 52:59
  that was something that Elon actually tweeted about like a
• 53:03
  couple, a couple of days ago actually.
• 53:06
  Yeah, no, This guy clearly knows what he's talking about and
• 53:09
  that's why I I got. I can't disagree with anything
• 53:12
  he said there. And and.
• 53:15
  You know the regulation, if you look historically, it's never
• 53:19
  helped. It's never actually done
• 53:22
  anything helping did regulating the comic books in the 50s stop
• 53:26
  serial killers because that's what they thought it was going
• 53:28
  to do? No it it.
• 53:30
  There's still serial killers, right?
• 53:32
  It it may. But they regulated the comic
• 53:34
  books. How can there still be serial
• 53:36
  killers? Because.
• 53:39
  Oh, they banned. They they, they they harassed
• 53:41
  Eazy E they murdered Eazy E Is there still gangster out?
• 53:45
  Is there still gangsters? I believe there is.
• 53:48
  I believe there's still gangsters in the hood.
• 53:50
  They they were trying to at one point blame violent video games
• 53:57
  and that. And I don't want to go too down
• 53:59
  a rat hole because I know that this is, you know, but they
• 54:02
  have. The warning stickers on them, do
• 54:04
  you think do you think that that government had nothing to do
• 54:06
  with the fucking ESRB that everybody hates?
• 54:09
  Yeah, well, well, they, they tried to.
• 54:11
  Only way to not get regulated. The same with the fucking record
• 54:15
  industry. It was like they say it's
• 54:17
  voluntary. It is comply or else they they
• 54:21
  try. To And then it is a hindrance to
• 54:23
  you in the future. Now, the labels on records,
• 54:26
  maybe not because people made them.
• 54:27
  They rocked them. They were like, I got a parental
• 54:29
  advisory sticker. We're cool.
• 54:31
  Yeah, we're cool. OK.
• 54:33
  But like, that's not always the case, and the ESRB is a good
• 54:36
  example of it. Because often times I think for
• 54:40
  a while they didn't regulate anything to do with loot boxes
• 54:42
  in terms of the rating, right? So they were making kids games
• 54:46
  with what most people consider gambling mechanics.
• 54:49
  I I don't actually care about loot boxes so much when they're
• 54:53
  targeted towards adults, but target that kid towards shit
• 54:58
  towards kids, you could at least put a warning.
• 55:01
  On the label, which is what they ended up having to do, but they
• 55:04
  got brought to court to do it. But it mostly it's a useless
• 55:08
  fucking system, is what I'm trying to say.
• 55:10
  Nobody makes those decisions. Yeah, I think you know people
• 55:13
  let their kids watch rated R movies.
• 55:15
  They didn't give a fuck. It's the same kind of thing I I,
• 55:19
  I mostly try to avoid sexual content.
• 55:22
  For my kid, that's about, like in in really crazy depictions of
• 55:27
  violence, like he's not playing Mortal Kombat.
• 55:30
  He's playing like Marvel superhero Lego guys or that's
• 55:33
  his like favorite game in the world.
• 55:36
  Yeah, you're you're you're like Shredder's Revenge.
• 55:39
  I also like Shredder's Revenge. So your kids not shooting people
• 55:45
  in the Dicks in in RoboCop. Rogue Rogue City.
• 55:50
  Which by the way is I I finally got it.
• 55:53
  I wouldn't even have a problem with that, although it's a very
• 55:56
  visceral fucking game. It's not all that bad.
• 55:59
  The I just don't. I just don't think graphic
• 56:02
  violence in a video game is that fucking bad because.
• 56:07
  And also I don't. I try not to like.
• 56:09
  I'm not trying to avoid showing him that the violence is not the
• 56:12
  problem, it's the sexual content, swearing anything to do
• 56:17
  with politics. I avoid that he played, Did you
• 56:23
  hear of that game when it came out?
• 56:25
  Slayer's Ex, Wrath of the Slayer or something like that.
• 56:31
  I I've heard of it, but I've never played it.
• 56:35
  It's a boomer shooter that a guy designed when he was 13 in his
• 56:38
  notebook and then he became like a developer for real.
• 56:43
  And when he became an indie developer, he made the game he,
• 56:46
  as he envisioned it when he was 13.
• 56:48
  So with the old school graphics and he doesn't swear.
• 56:52
  And it's a boomer shooter. It's kind of violent and it
• 56:55
  talks about poop, but he plays that.
• 56:59
  Like literally it was designed by a 13 year old mind, if you
• 57:02
  can imagine, like he's trying to save his girlfriend and the and
• 57:07
  the cutscenes look like they're made in like the 90s too.
• 57:09
  It's great. It's it's a fantastic little
• 57:12
  game and he wants to play that. Oh yeah.
• 57:14
  Fine. That.
• 57:16
  That's that sounds he's. Not playing GTA.
• 57:19
  He's not playing The Witcher. That's another one, because
• 57:23
  there's a lot of sex in The Witcher.
• 57:25
  Well, yeah. Like, a lot.
• 57:28
  Like, right out the gate is like a nude scene, right?
• 57:31
  Yeah. No, that's how the game
• 57:34
  literally starts. So more, more theus.
• 57:40
  I'm much more. I'm much more concerned about
• 57:42
  him seeing that stuff. Because he's 7, right?
• 57:45
  Yeah, yeah, no, but well, no. The thing it is, is if your kid
• 57:50
  is going to play RoboCop Rogue City, he at least needs to watch
• 57:53
  the first RoboCop film. Well, that's what I was thinking
• 57:57
  is like, would you would I say no to him watching the first
• 57:59
  RoboCop movie? Because it's about as violent as
• 58:02
  the fucking game. And it is.
• 58:04
  It is. Probably not.
• 58:05
  Yeah, probably. I'd let him.
• 58:07
  Yeah, I'd probably let him watch the movie.
• 58:09
  It is pretty like that scene where they murder like that's
• 58:14
  seen it. Even by today's standards, it is
• 58:16
  pretty gruesome to watch so. Yeah, but it's it's also a good
• 58:22
  fucking film. And I don't, I don't know.
• 58:24
  It's not that bad. It's also.
• 58:27
  If it came out today, it'd probably be related to PG13.
• 58:30
  Yeah, no, it It's also RoboCop is also kind of funny too.
• 58:35
  Like in in some well, at the heart.
• 58:39
  Of it all is a good message is he's struggling to just serve
• 58:41
  justice, right? Yeah, well, whatever that means.
• 58:44
  For for whatever he is left. Well, and also a.
• 58:47
  Good guy in his heart and also to maintain his humanity too so.
• 58:52
  That's what I mean, right? He's a good guy in his heart and
• 58:55
  they can put all the fucking robots in him they want.
• 58:57
  It still always shines through Murphy, not RoboCop.
• 59:02
  Yeah, and also your son. Your son does deserve to know
• 59:06
  about iconic actor Peter Weller, because that man is an icon.
• 59:13
  So you know what he used to watch?
• 59:16
  That's an old ass movie he watched over and over and over
• 59:18
  again. Was the original Power Rangers
• 59:20
  motion picture like the film? Yeah.
• 59:25
  Which I've I've come to find out.
• 59:27
  A lot of people say that they think is really, really bad.
• 59:31
  I think for Power Rangers movie looks all right.
• 59:33
  I was a little too old for Power Rangers.
• 59:35
  My brother was into that, so I thought it was corny, yeah.
• 59:40
  If your younger brother is into something, it's probably corny.
• 59:44
  Yeah, that that's generally how it is from what I understand.
• 59:48
  I I was. I was a lonely child for a long
• 59:51
  time. Same thing with Pokémon, right?
• 59:53
  Well, no Pokémon. That's why I was like I.
• 59:58
  Don't know, it just seems like Harry Potter's another one I was
• 1:00:01
  already reading. Like Conan the Barbarian and
• 1:00:03
  Elements. If you want to talk fantasy
• 1:00:05
  stuff, it It's a bunch of little kids with wands.
• 1:00:08
  Spitting, of course. That are British, so they
• 1:00:10
  fucking make up words. And that just didn't appeal to
• 1:00:13
  me. I'd already read The Lord of the
• 1:00:16
  Rings. I'd already read Elminster, The
• 1:00:18
  Making of a Mage. I'd already been reading Dragon
• 1:00:21
  Lance. That shit seems pretty fucking
• 1:00:23
  corny. Yeah.
• 1:00:27
  Anyway, though, all of these, the people that grew up on Harry
• 1:00:29
  Potter, I'm just saying I was like a teenager when that shit
• 1:00:34
  came out and it seemed pretty fucking corny.
• 1:00:37
  I mean it. I mean, I I grew up in the
• 1:00:39
  generation of Harry Potter and it seemed pretty corny to me, to
• 1:00:42
  be fair. So, but yeah, but you're a
• 1:00:46
  contrarian. I I am very, very much so.
• 1:00:52
  I am too. I hated a lot of the shit my
• 1:00:55
  generation like, but I hated Harry Potter just as much.
• 1:00:58
  And that. And that's well, and that's why
• 1:01:01
  we get along, because we're all, we're all kind of contrarians in
• 1:01:06
  our little circle. So yeah, I wish I could be
• 1:01:09
  contrary to what that guy was saying, but he's correct.
• 1:01:12
  Nah. Well, well, I mean, in the tech
• 1:01:16
  industry, they're a kind of contrarians too, because they're
• 1:01:18
  not super woke, as you'll find out in a SEC.
• 1:01:26
  None of the stuff's even going to apply anymore.
• 1:01:28
  I'm just really of the point of view as you guys know, that the
• 1:01:31
  market needs to be allowed to develop.
• 1:01:33
  If we don't allow our market to develop in the United States,
• 1:01:37
  India and China and Singapore and other markets will get in.
• 1:01:42
  Terms of their model development and their capabilities as a
• 1:01:46
  nation and their capabilities as an industry and the more our
• 1:01:49
  government actors step in and try and tell us what systems and
• 1:01:52
  methods we are allowed to use to build stuff.
• 1:01:54
  The more at risk we are falling behind.
• 1:01:57
  That's my general statement on the matter.
• 1:01:59
  I'll pass the the, the mic. I mean, Shamak, you were
• 1:02:02
  advocating for AI regs a couple months ago, I think, right?
• 1:02:04
  I mean, where does this fall with respect to what you were
• 1:02:07
  advocating for and what you were concerned about?
• 1:02:09
  Well, I had a very specific lens that I viewed this stuff through
• 1:02:14
  and they didn't really address it.
• 1:02:17
  I think that this was a little bit of a kitchen sink EO and.
• 1:02:23
  I think what probably happened was depending on, look, I I
• 1:02:27
  mean, I think The thing is like Levay, when this process first
• 1:02:31
  started, it started in the Senate and it started with the
• 1:02:34
  Majority Leader, Chuck Schumer. And I met with Chuck and then I
• 1:02:37
  met with Chuck's team. And then it morphed into this
• 1:02:40
  much bigger thing. And I think it morphed into a
• 1:02:45
  lot of people trying to do the right thing, meeting with a lot
• 1:02:49
  of very important and very famous people.
• 1:02:52
  And I think somewhere along the way it just became this
• 1:02:56
  convoluted and confused document, because I do agree
• 1:03:00
  with you that it's not super coherent.
• 1:03:02
  There's a lot of arbitrary requirements.
• 1:03:04
  You know, like there's like, I think there's a requirement here
• 1:03:07
  that as a certain number of parameters you have to like self
• 1:03:10
  report yourself to the government, which is like, what
• 1:03:15
  does that even mean? Why?
• 1:03:16
  Why is that even important? So it it's it's just a lot of
• 1:03:19
  random stuff. So it just seems like anybody
• 1:03:22
  who had the ear of the people writing this had a chance to
• 1:03:25
  write something in. So it's a little confusing.
• 1:03:30
  It's not going to do the job. And I think that you're right,
• 1:03:33
  in two or three years we're going to look back and this is
• 1:03:35
  going to look medieval. I'll just say I'll point out
• 1:03:37
  another point, just one of many that I could highlight in this
• 1:03:40
  document I read. Hold on, hold on, ma'am,
• 1:03:43
  there's. Got to be legislation on before
• 1:03:45
  he got introduced, he got introduced as you supported
• 1:03:48
  regulations a few months ago, correct?
• 1:03:50
  Yes, and he just said these are going to look medieval, he.
• 1:03:54
  Yeah, he's. He's also the guy who he's pro
• 1:03:58
  regular. I just wanted to point that out
• 1:04:00
  as simple as possible. He's pro regulation and he said
• 1:04:03
  this is medieval. Yes, OK, yeah, I'll take his
• 1:04:11
  word for it, having not read it. But, like, that's a pretty harsh
• 1:04:14
  condemnation from somebody who was for regulating AI.
• 1:04:18
  Yeah. Well, and I I, I think a lot of
• 1:04:23
  these people who were pro regulation are starting to kind
• 1:04:26
  of wake up and say, oh, this might not be such a good idea
• 1:04:30
  after all that they don't, they don't relate it back to IBM.
• 1:04:35
  They don't like in their mind, they're a different thing in
• 1:04:38
  different industry, different time.
• 1:04:39
  They might not even know the story.
• 1:04:41
  Well, well, David Sacks who? Who you're going to see here in
• 1:04:44
  a SEC who I bring up often, he he does bring up IBM into this.
• 1:04:50
  I don't want to shit on IBM as a company like they've they've
• 1:04:54
  succeeded, despite all that, in their own various niches since
• 1:04:59
  then. Like, I'm not trying to down
• 1:05:01
  them because honestly, IBM is an American institution, company of
• 1:05:04
  the of the 20th century. Yeah, like people don't even
• 1:05:08
  realize how influential that company was until regulation and
• 1:05:13
  they've managed to survive to the current day.
• 1:05:16
  But you ain't. You're not.
• 1:05:19
  You're not using an IBM computer, and neither am I.
• 1:05:22
  No. Well, neither is anybody
• 1:05:24
  listening to us. Neither is anybody basically on
• 1:05:27
  the entire Internet. And I I I think though that goes
• 1:05:30
  to to show though like yeah we're not trying to on IBM but
• 1:05:35
  IBM is kind of like. It's the nearest thing to a case
• 1:05:39
  study to to like an actual like tangible case study for a lot of
• 1:05:43
  this stuff that we can reference.
• 1:05:46
  And that's kind of what SAX is going to bring up here in a SEC
• 1:05:49
  or or the DMCA to the music industry and it's collapse now
• 1:05:54
  everything is fucking independent.
• 1:05:56
  They hire people independently, they get their music onto iTunes
• 1:06:01
  and they just take a cut off of fucking royalties.
• 1:06:03
  They the whole fucking thing collapsed.
• 1:06:05
  There's no record sales. Yeah, there's no record stores,
• 1:06:10
  right? They had to restructure the
• 1:06:11
  whole thing. That's because of the way that
• 1:06:13
  they went about the battle with Napster and online piracy and
• 1:06:18
  then the rise of streaming services And then everybody, you
• 1:06:21
  know, all these old time musicians were like, now that
• 1:06:24
  nobody's listening to us on the radio, everybody's listening
• 1:06:26
  online. Wait a minute, I ain't making
• 1:06:30
  nearly as much royalties as before.
• 1:06:32
  What the fuck's the deal? Turns out that they all signed
• 1:06:36
  off on these streaming services for a fucking a nickel,
• 1:06:39
  basically. Yeah, And they undersold all
• 1:06:42
  these artists catalogs to them. That's why you might think that
• 1:06:45
  some of these artists are being pricks, but first they were
• 1:06:48
  getting their music stolen from them, right?
• 1:06:51
  Just flat out stolen. I understand that.
• 1:06:54
  Everybody does the file sharing thing.
• 1:06:56
  I've done it too. And piracy.
• 1:06:57
  Piracy is piracy. You're stealing.
• 1:06:59
  So imagine the other end of it that the musicians, they start
• 1:07:03
  losing money because you're you're fucking stealing their
• 1:07:05
  music and the next thing they know they settled that, came up
• 1:07:08
  with a legal solution for streaming their music.
• 1:07:11
  And then people are basically fucking stealing from them too.
• 1:07:16
  Because it turns out they're paying them like like they'd get
• 1:07:19
  like 3040% off a radio play. They're getting like 3% off of
• 1:07:27
  streams. Or they were.
• 1:07:29
  That's why they all kind of went on strike for a while And and
• 1:07:32
  even though some of them are pricks and even though some of
• 1:07:34
  them you think they have enough money, they're right though they
• 1:07:38
  got screwed because these companies signed away all their
• 1:07:41
  rights while they were they were not thinking of the online
• 1:07:46
  streaming service. It was still album sales.
• 1:07:48
  Yeah, that's why it's like a lot of old timey, big name artists
• 1:07:52
  that were doing it, because they're the ones that got
• 1:07:55
  fucked. And whether whether or not, you
• 1:07:57
  know, they're fucking like Madonna, a prick with more money
• 1:08:00
  than you could fucking ever imagine, it's still technically
• 1:08:04
  taking her shit. You know what I mean?
• 1:08:06
  Well. There there were a lot of bands
• 1:08:08
  who like King Crimson was one of them.
• 1:08:13
  King Crimson for a long time. They did not distribute their
• 1:08:18
  songs on iTunes or anything like that, but what they did do is
• 1:08:24
  they hope the tool was like that for a long time as well.
• 1:08:28
  Yeah well what well what what King Crimson did was they they
• 1:08:33
  like set up their they set up their own like online web store
• 1:08:40
  thing. But that and and a lot of a lot
• 1:08:42
  of artists, particularly smaller scale artists who have dedicated
• 1:08:47
  fans find a lot of success online independently.
• 1:08:51
  But the whole industry has just changed because of it, because
• 1:08:56
  of the ease of streaming as compared to like, nobody carries
• 1:08:59
  around a stack of compact discs anymore.
• 1:09:02
  Or even, you know, the the Cillier is a little folder full
• 1:09:05
  of them, right? Because you just have your
• 1:09:07
  phone. It's easier.
• 1:09:09
  The convenience is ridiculous in comparison.
• 1:09:12
  Yeah, nobody even thinks about compact discs anymore.
• 1:09:15
  My my wife had gotten some, like, old shit from an old lady
• 1:09:19
  at her at her mom's building or whatever.
• 1:09:21
  And amongst the things was a fucking double disc set of like
• 1:09:25
  the greatest hits of the doors. And I was like, oh, that's cool.
• 1:09:28
  Where the fuck would I play that?
• 1:09:30
  No, my, my, my grand, my grandmother.
• 1:09:33
  And you know, she she meant well.
• 1:09:35
  She got me a. She got me a cassette tape of
• 1:09:40
  one of U2's albums and it's like, well, that's cassette is
• 1:09:45
  an interesting thing too. I've seen like a lot of like
• 1:09:49
  really indie type artists and like Vaporwave actually
• 1:09:54
  distribute their shit on cassette.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah. But yeah, And I mean that's
• 1:10:00
  that's like a weird nostalgia, because cassettes are
• 1:10:02
  objectively, in every way worse. Well, yeah.
• 1:10:05
  But also like, I should have cassette nostalgia.
• 1:10:08
  That was like my era. I had so many cassettes.
• 1:10:11
  Yeah, but like, cassettes sucked.
• 1:10:15
  Yeah. Well, and I mean as far as like
• 1:10:17
  the vapor wave thing like, like like thematically like you know
• 1:10:23
  the whole cassette type thing like that is part of the vapor
• 1:10:25
  wave. Aesthetic, I guess.
• 1:10:28
  So as far as that whole thing goes, like I get it from that
• 1:10:31
  perspective but don't have a sound because it's it's still
• 1:10:35
  just a digitally magnetized file like vinyl.
• 1:10:39
  Vinyl has a sound, and the reason vinyl has a sound is that
• 1:10:42
  they had to compress everything. Well, yeah, and and then the the
• 1:10:47
  needle's movement is supposed to decompress the file so that they
• 1:10:51
  could fit it on a record. Yeah, but as soon as they came
• 1:10:55
  in with the magnet tapes, like 8 tracks and stuff, that's
• 1:10:59
  different. So there there's a just a
• 1:11:01
  cleaner sound on tape. That's what people say when they
• 1:11:05
  they feel like modern music doesn't sound as good.
• 1:11:08
  The older music was lower decibel, generally speaking, but
• 1:11:12
  it had that sound because of vinyl, and if you listen to it
• 1:11:15
  on vinyl it does sound good. I still think, I still think
• 1:11:19
  like a digital like a high quality like flak file is
• 1:11:23
  probably like the optimal way to listen to any record if you
• 1:11:26
  really care about it. Yeah.
• 1:11:28
  Oh yeah. Vinyl's good, too.
• 1:11:30
  It is especially through a speaker.
• 1:11:32
  Vinyl is great through a speaker.
• 1:11:34
  Yeah, and I mean I've, I've listened.
• 1:11:36
  I've listened to Flack files. The problem with headphones?
• 1:11:39
  You want the highest quality power.
• 1:11:40
  You want digital if you're listening on headphones.
• 1:11:43
  The problem with Flack files is they is Flack files are like
• 1:11:47
  massive too though. Yeah, but like the size of
• 1:11:51
  storage, they're getting more trivial all the time.
• 1:11:54
  Yeah. Also, you're late that it's a
• 1:11:57
  cost for quality. Right.
• 1:12:00
  No, I I'm right. I'm not saying it's an issue for
• 1:12:04
  me, but like you know, for the average, normally like you know
• 1:12:08
  MP3MP3 with headphones is fine too.
• 1:12:11
  Like that's a that's a decent level of like.
• 1:12:13
  If you want the highest quality, you got to get yourself a like a
• 1:12:16
  Flack of the master. Yeah.
• 1:12:20
  So anyway though, yeah, getting back to IBM though, this is one
• 1:12:26
  of the things that they're going to bring up what you were saying
• 1:12:29
  at IBM kind of being the case study for a lot of this, so.
• 1:12:36
  Watermarking AI content. Think about that for a second.
• 1:12:40
  What is AI content? We've been using Adobe Photoshop
• 1:12:44
  for 30 years. To change photographs and change
• 1:12:48
  documents, we've been using various tools for doing audio
• 1:12:52
  generation and music. I mean, there's no music that
• 1:12:54
  doesn't run through a digital processor of some sort.
• 1:12:57
  There's no video. There's no movies that don't
• 1:13:00
  have some degree of CGI elements or some degree of production
• 1:13:05
  rendering integrated into the video.
• 1:13:07
  Even old music, OK, even old old old music went through digital
• 1:13:14
  processing going back, I think to like the 30s when they use
• 1:13:19
  like one and two tracks. Yeah, I know this this is, this
• 1:13:22
  is what I'm saying is like Biden and company don't.
• 1:13:26
  That's what I That's what I was saying earlier when the when
• 1:13:30
  when when Kurt Doodle says that these go back and they raise the
• 1:13:34
  fucking band in The Equalizer and the Treble before they
• 1:13:38
  fucking put it out on a record. Right.
• 1:13:41
  That's it. Was done digitally since the
• 1:13:44
  dawn of fucking music. Yeah, that.
• 1:13:47
  I mean, all that is music. As soon as we had recorded
• 1:13:50
  music, somebody said, hey, how can I clean this up to make it
• 1:13:54
  sound the best possible? And they did so in a digital
• 1:13:58
  setting, usually using tape reel to reel.
• 1:14:00
  Yeah, I mean, all of that is like a is a form of which, as I
• 1:14:05
  said before, tape is fucking digital.
• 1:14:08
  Yeah, all of that. All of that, technically, is a
• 1:14:11
  form of AI, if you want to think about it.
• 1:14:14
  Why that definition? Yeah, that's why I wanted to
• 1:14:16
  stop and really explain that. Is that what?
• 1:14:19
  Fucking what? What's this face?
• 1:14:21
  Fucking Thomas Edison's old radio transmissions are are AI.
• 1:14:28
  Yeah, Need to be watermarked, Edison.
• 1:14:31
  Motherfucker. Yeah, we'll watermark every
• 1:14:36
  radio broadcast ever. We'll talk Watermark every
• 1:14:40
  television show in the history of fucking humanity.
• 1:14:43
  We'll talk every movie. Yeah, Well, well, yeah.
• 1:14:46
  And that's another guy who, like, fought regulators like
• 1:14:50
  tooth and nail throughout his entire life.
• 1:14:54
  Man, the government can just regulate everything now.
• 1:14:58
  Yeah, wow. That's pretty like for for a guy
• 1:15:02
  like like Bosch or something that's pretty based.
• 1:15:04
  Like he would love that. Oh yeah, he'd, I said some
• 1:15:07
  straight like. Like I said, like I'm not joking
• 1:15:10
  when I'm when I compare it to Francis E Deck and the communist
• 1:15:13
  computer gangster God that lives on the moon.
• 1:15:16
  Like, what's the fucking difference?
• 1:15:18
  And it sorts us by race, determining who gets what.
• 1:15:22
  Yeah, the only thing he missed is his gender and and fucking
• 1:15:27
  sexuality. You got to throw that in there
• 1:15:30
  too. And disability status and all
• 1:15:32
  that. DI is a bit more complex than
• 1:15:35
  Francis Edek's 1950 schizophrenic mind could come up
• 1:15:38
  with. Like, Lord help us.
• 1:15:41
  He came up with the communist computer gangster God.
• 1:15:45
  He came out. He came pretty damn close.
• 1:15:48
  Like, if you've never listened, there's an old radio DJ that
• 1:15:51
  read Francis Edek's letters. You can find still on YouTube to
• 1:15:56
  this day. I highly recommend just looking
• 1:15:59
  up Francis E Deck on YouTube and listening to it because it's
• 1:16:01
  highly entertaining. The But it's also chilling
• 1:16:05
  because the communist computer gangster God is now real.
• 1:16:08
  The the first time I heard the the first time and it and it was
• 1:16:12
  designed and and perpetrated by Joe Biden.
• 1:16:18
  Don't you just love this timeline we live in?
• 1:16:20
  It's it's great, isn't it? Hey, at least the president that
• 1:16:24
  controls AI is retarded. Silver lining is Max.
• 1:16:30
  That's what I love about you. It's funny, right?
• 1:16:33
  So like at least that. Yeah, at least we can say that
• 1:16:38
  he's retarded, and it'll probably he'll like,
• 1:16:41
  inadvertently do something hilarious like poop in front of
• 1:16:46
  the Pope. You know what I mean?
• 1:16:53
  Who would ever think that the president would take?
• 1:16:55
  A shit in his pants, right in front of the Heavenly Father.
• 1:17:00
  Excuse me, Father, for I have sinned.
• 1:17:04
  Well, he he's incontinent. What?
• 1:17:07
  What do you want from him? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:11
  No, that was a holy shit, Yeah. Self What makes something AI?
• 1:17:19
  Is it the fact that 100% of the pixels are generated by
• 1:17:22
  software? What if it's only 98%?
• 1:17:25
  Is Pixar AI because all of Pixar is made on computers?
• 1:17:30
  Is the auto tune hip hop artist AI because his voice isn't
• 1:17:33
  coming through on the audio track?
• 1:17:35
  So what is AI in this definition?
• 1:17:39
  The fact that any piece of content needs to be watermarked
• 1:17:42
  if it's AII think is one of the most outlandish infringements on
• 1:17:46
  1st Amendment rights I've seen. And doesn't really understand
• 1:17:50
  any set in any sense how software is generally used in
• 1:17:54
  the world today which is watermark.
• 1:17:56
  Everywhere. And to say that on music would
• 1:17:59
  mean like. Definition of a certain type of
• 1:18:01
  software Oh my God. Watermarked on music would mean
• 1:18:04
  like because like they do that sometimes like guys that that
• 1:18:07
  make beats and and it they'll be like it's just really loud and
• 1:18:12
  obnoxious so that you can't use the beat for anything.
• 1:18:16
  It'll be like DJ 5 on the mix. That's.
• 1:18:19
  What you're talking about, you're going to have to have AI
• 1:18:21
  every fucking 15 seconds over every song.
• 1:18:25
  Ever. Enjoy your Joe Biden
• 1:18:28
  regulations. It's going to be like, it's
• 1:18:31
  going to be like this song made by Open AI.
• 1:18:35
  This song Get low, get low, get open AI.
• 1:18:40
  Yeah, yeah. No, it's well, you're having a
• 1:18:42
  party. It stops every five seconds to
• 1:18:45
  say Open AI. Fuck man.
• 1:18:49
  The worst Fucking. Regulation ever arbitrarily call
• 1:18:55
  AI. We want to watermark this stuff
• 1:18:58
  and we want to get a stamp on that content so the government
• 1:19:01
  can track it and audit it. I think is absurd.
• 1:19:06
  Jack's over to you. So Sax is the is kind of the
• 1:19:09
  base one. He's he's the Trumpian guy.
• 1:19:14
  He looks he looks very like Mafioso.
• 1:19:16
  Yeah, well he's actually, he's one of the he's one of the Co
• 1:19:20
  founders of PayPal and he he explains the mafia.
• 1:19:25
  Yeah, well no. That he and Elon Musk are are
• 1:19:30
  and Peter Thiel are part of what's known as the PayPal
• 1:19:33
  Mafia. Actually, yeah.
• 1:19:38
  And he's their Iceman. Yeah, no, the, the, no, the,
• 1:19:42
  the. You're not wrong.
• 1:19:43
  The the mainstream media has literally called him like the
• 1:19:46
  tech world's Iceman or something like that.
• 1:19:48
  It's funny, actually. Saw him for three seconds and I
• 1:19:52
  was like gangster. Yeah, no, it he's he's out to
• 1:19:56
  drop some straight facts on IBM, all of what you basically just
• 1:20:01
  mentioned. One AI has been convicted of a
• 1:20:07
  pre crime. This, this EO, it describes, it
• 1:20:12
  describes this litany of horribles, this parade of
• 1:20:15
  horribles that's going to happen unless you know the wise people
• 1:20:20
  in the central government like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
• 1:20:22
  guide his development. So that's what the EO says going
• 1:20:24
  to do, is guide the development of this technology.
• 1:20:26
  Because if we don't, it's going to result in all these horrible
• 1:20:29
  things happening. Steven Sinofsky, who was a the
• 1:20:32
  key executive of Microsoft and the I think it going back to the
• 1:20:35
  80s, wrote a really interesting blog post about this where he he
• 1:20:38
  was there at the beginning of the PC revolution with the dawn
• 1:20:42
  of the microprocessor in the 70s and 80s.
• 1:20:45
  And he pulled a bunch of books off his bookshelf from that time
• 1:20:48
  period which were sort of the sci-fi books like forecasting
• 1:20:52
  doom, infringement on privacy. One was called The Assault on
• 1:20:55
  Privacy, Another one was called Electronic Nightmare, another
• 1:20:58
  one was called The Rise of the Computer State and so on.
• 1:21:01
  And so it was also predicting all these horrible things that
• 1:21:04
  would come from the. Yeah, So that that's that's one
• 1:21:07
  thing I wanted to bring up too. Yeah.
• 1:21:09
  So like this whole fear around. Look at this.
• 1:21:12
  Look at this. Rise of the Computer State
• 1:21:14
  Forward by Walter Cronkite, the most trusted news man in the
• 1:21:18
  world. He told you the computers.
• 1:21:21
  We're going to take over the whole fucking world in five
• 1:21:23
  years. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:25
  No. Very, very trusted news man,
• 1:21:28
  boomers. Yeah, So and and that's.
• 1:21:30
  He also, he also was like the biggest advocate of climate
• 1:21:33
  change. When they used to call it global
• 1:21:35
  warming and when they called it fucking global cooling, and
• 1:21:38
  when, like whenever they called it something, Walter Cronkite
• 1:21:40
  was at the forefront of that. No, he's like the leader of the
• 1:21:43
  Green movement. No.
• 1:21:44
  So I actually. There, Martin Luther King.
• 1:21:47
  So like I actually. I actually I I don't think Kurt
• 1:21:52
  had had his DMS open, but I I did try and send this to him
• 1:21:56
  because he no. No, no, we'll we'll talk to him.
• 1:21:58
  He Well, no. But Kurt actually mentioned this
• 1:22:02
  that like there were there were books out there in the 80s like
• 1:22:05
  talking like how bad like computers were going to be.
• 1:22:11
  Like this was not like. That's why my.
• 1:22:15
  Rebellious ass got into like hip hop, Dungeons and Dragons, metal
• 1:22:19
  music and computers 'cause they were all the devil, but they
• 1:22:22
  were all actually pretty cool. Yeah, no and and like.
• 1:22:25
  You know. Now we like we look at these
• 1:22:28
  books and laugh, but like back then, like this was kind of
• 1:22:32
  like, you know, the fear. I mean, I mean not the same, but
• 1:22:35
  but similar. The fucking movie with Tom Hanks
• 1:22:38
  about Dungeons and Dragons and and the kid that went missing.
• 1:22:42
  Made our. Lives, right?
• 1:22:44
  Years later made our life miserable playing D&D in middle
• 1:22:48
  school with my boys. Like we had to hide not from the
• 1:22:51
  kids. The kids didn't give a shit.
• 1:22:53
  They knew we were nerds because the parents, one inevitably one
• 1:22:57
  of the guy's parents, which sometimes would be mine, would
• 1:23:00
  flip out because they heard about the Satanic panic 10 years
• 1:23:03
  later. Oh, that?
• 1:23:05
  Oh yeah. That made it cool.
• 1:23:06
  It made it cool. But computers to me were also
• 1:23:08
  cool, 'cause they were Outlaw. And the guys building them back
• 1:23:11
  then were all kind of outlaw in their own way, too.
• 1:23:13
  Like, you look at a lot of their stories and they're pretty cool.
• 1:23:16
  Yeah. They're pretty fucking cool.
• 1:23:19
  Yeah, no, I mean people. People love to.
• 1:23:22
  Al. I think his name's Al Jolson.
• 1:23:24
  But the the guy that founded fucking Atari, you read his
• 1:23:27
  fucking autobiography. That dude was nuts.
• 1:23:29
  Like a rock star, man. Yeah.
• 1:23:32
  They lived wild and they they gave no fucks what the
• 1:23:36
  corporates were telling them because they didn't have to at
• 1:23:38
  the time. It's a it's a pretty cool time
• 1:23:41
  in like computer development. Yeah.
• 1:23:43
  And and the government came along and IBM D them all.
• 1:23:47
  Yeah, right up until Blizzard started having like drunken
• 1:23:53
  cubicle crawl, panty raid parties, you know?
• 1:23:57
  Yeah. Then it all came rolling back
• 1:23:58
  in. With the old days and it would
• 1:24:09
  put all these people out of work and so on.
• 1:24:11
  Totally. But nobody allowed these fears
• 1:24:15
  to guide the development of the industry.
• 1:24:18
  There was no executive order at that time saying that we're
• 1:24:22
  going to guide the development of the microprocessor to avoid
• 1:24:25
  all of these farms that haven't occurred yet.
• 1:24:28
  And instead, we're taking a a different approach here.
• 1:24:30
  And he makes the point that if the industry had been guided in
• 1:24:34
  that way, then it never would have achieved the potential that
• 1:24:37
  it ultimately achieved. And furthermore, he makes the
• 1:24:39
  point that a company like IBM would have been more than happy
• 1:24:42
  to work with the regulators to say, yeah, let's define a bunch
• 1:24:45
  of these rules to make sure that it doesn't go in this dark
• 1:24:48
  direction that everyone thinks it's going to go in and you
• 1:24:50
  would have gotten very extreme regulatory capture.
• 1:24:53
  Can I precog one of the crazy lines in this thing?
• 1:24:56
  Here are the precogs. Well here's one.
• 1:24:58
  When a foreign person transacts with an infrastructure as a
• 1:25:02
  service provider. So Azure, Google Cloud, Amazon
• 1:25:07
  to train a large AI model with potential with potential
• 1:25:10
  capabilities that could be used in malicious cyber enabled
• 1:25:14
  activity. They propose regulation that
• 1:25:16
  requires that I asked provider to submit a report.
• 1:25:20
  So. If you you have to know, you
• 1:25:24
  have to know it's a foreigner. It's using your API, so WS and
• 1:25:30
  then file Atps report. Oh my God.
• 1:25:34
  Fucking TPS report. And very.
• 1:25:36
  Fine question. What happens if you're a
• 1:25:37
  foreigner? That's.
• 1:25:38
  On Did you say, Did you say something?
• 1:25:43
  Yeah, I said ATPS report indeed, because it's basically saying
• 1:25:47
  the TP oh, the foreigner transacts.
• 1:25:49
  We'll keep that on file for what?
• 1:25:51
  Mostly for nothing. Yeah, well, that.
• 1:25:55
  Like 99.9% for no reason at all. Yeah.
• 1:25:58
  So I mean that that's that's basically the gist of I wanted
• 1:26:02
  to you know play they'll. Say they'll say terrorists, but
• 1:26:05
  how many people transact any industry with the United States
• 1:26:09
  company every day from either a foreigner?
• 1:26:12
  Or an American resident as as he was pointing out on an H1B visa.
• 1:26:17
  Yeah, well that, well, that's what I'm saying too that's is
• 1:26:21
  like they're so they're so afraid of that of like you know
• 1:26:24
  foreigners interacting with AI as if as if we're the only ones
• 1:26:29
  like you know pioneering AI. What?
• 1:26:32
  You know like like you know it's not as if China or.
• 1:26:37
  I don't know Saudi Arabia. It's not like they have tech
• 1:26:40
  startups either. And China is going to
• 1:26:42
  centralized theirs. They are going to be the
• 1:26:45
  communist computer gangster God, whether we like it or not.
• 1:26:47
  They they all, they already are. They already are in their in
• 1:26:52
  their. Yeah, it'll be.
• 1:26:54
  It'll be interesting to watch unfold further, but it's pretty
• 1:26:59
  it's pretty fucked up now. Yeah, I know.
• 1:27:01
  What? What do you?
• 1:27:03
  What do you think the Social Credit score system in China
• 1:27:06
  that we keep hearing out? What do you think that's all
• 1:27:08
  about, folks? It's all it's all AI driven.
• 1:27:11
  That's what I mean. They're the they are going to be
• 1:27:13
  though the one. If we don't compete and have
• 1:27:17
  like the freedom version of that then what?
• 1:27:21
  What then we all have the communist computer gangster God
• 1:27:25
  when it wins. Yeah.
• 1:27:27
  And it sends all your data to the Moon base, just like Francis
• 1:27:31
  E Deck said. Everybody laughed, but at least
• 1:27:34
  they're freaking sending it out into space into the fucking
• 1:27:37
  satellites. And he wrote that before
• 1:27:39
  Sputnik. Yeah.
• 1:27:41
  No, I actually I actually heard those France E deck things like
• 1:27:46
  a long time ago in some in some of Medicare's old streams
• 1:27:51
  actually because he's Medicare used to play the the I can't
• 1:27:55
  remember which exact exact. Yeah, anybody into like weird
• 1:27:59
  radio would have come across it at some point.
• 1:28:01
  It's it's like one of those things.
• 1:28:04
  And because it's just such an interesting not only the
• 1:28:07
  writings of the man, but the guy reading them with such
• 1:28:10
  enthusiasm and passion as if he almost puts himself in the mind
• 1:28:14
  state of the the madman. It's great.
• 1:28:17
  But then it's not so great when you, when you get older and you
• 1:28:20
  start to see the computer gangster God, the communist
• 1:28:24
  computer gangster God is starting to be real.
• 1:28:27
  Like a thing. And he's not a madman anymore.
• 1:28:30
  He's a prophet. That's not cool.
• 1:28:34
  I never wanted to live in the timeline where Francis Edek is a
• 1:28:39
  prophet, but Joe Biden is going to make that happen while he
• 1:28:45
  eats vanilla ice cream and drives us all into poverty.
• 1:28:49
  And then sends our kids off to war for either Israel or Russia
• 1:28:53
  or we don't hurt somebody. And and also shits his pants.
• 1:28:56
  We'll we'll we're doing it too. Can't talking to the Pope?
• 1:29:02
  You know, I do say that God has a predilection to favor the
• 1:29:06
  funny. And I mean, this is all very
• 1:29:09
  funny if, but it's not ha ha funny.
• 1:29:13
  It's sad, funny. Well, no.
• 1:29:14
  What? What?
• 1:29:15
  What? What God?
• 1:29:16
  What? What God never tells you is
• 1:29:18
  that. He does have a sense of humor.
• 1:29:21
  It's just the very dark and like, fucked up sense of humor.
• 1:29:26
  If I were God, I would find all of this hilarious.
• 1:29:29
  Yeah, but see like, but see like you.
• 1:29:33
  Maybe God's better, better than my soul could ever be, and
• 1:29:36
  that's the whole point. But but I find it hilarious.
• 1:29:39
  Yeah. Anyway, but because there's not
• 1:29:42
  much else you could do. I was just telling my I asked my
• 1:29:44
  wife a question. I was like, what do you think
• 1:29:46
  our most viewed episode of this whole year was?
• 1:29:50
  And she had no idea. And I was like, that's when we
• 1:29:52
  when I talked about going camping for the whole like 2
• 1:29:55
  hours. Yeah.
• 1:29:58
  Because everybody's sick to death of doom and gloom.
• 1:30:01
  So then what are you going to do?
• 1:30:02
  You you look at this and they're, oh, they're going to
• 1:30:04
  regulate IAI? Well, yeah.
• 1:30:07
  Google and Microsoft, they're going to jump on board.
• 1:30:09
  Well, as they wrote the fucking thing.
• 1:30:11
  No but but. And everybody's going to be left
• 1:30:13
  in the dust until they get out, competed by somebody from
• 1:30:16
  somewhere, whether it's here or somewhere.
• 1:30:19
  The whole reason why I wanted to bring the set though backs is
• 1:30:21
  because everyone, Because right now everyone is talking like
• 1:30:25
  Israel and Palestine and that whole thing and meanwhile right
• 1:30:31
  home. The tech sector is in is in a
• 1:30:34
  couple of crises right now. Also, the chip wars is a big
• 1:30:37
  deal. And while everybody's paying
• 1:30:39
  attention everything else, China makes moves on Taiwan, they've
• 1:30:44
  been making of aggressive moves for quite a long time.
• 1:30:47
  Exactly. Meanwhile, PSMC is claiming that
• 1:30:51
  the fucking manufacturers in Israel are never going to make
• 1:30:54
  like they literally they made it like a joke.
• 1:30:57
  The manufacturers are never going to out compete them
• 1:30:59
  because they're already at 3 nanometers and it's like.
• 1:31:02
  Basically fucked up, but there's many factories being built
• 1:31:08
  elsewhere, but it's going to take time for them to get on
• 1:31:10
  board. So right now, everybody's
• 1:31:12
  dependent on Taiwan for chips microprocessors, as he pointed
• 1:31:17
  out. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:19
  The basis of all of this shit you see before you in the in the
• 1:31:25
  dystopia that I've described thus far, including how you're
• 1:31:28
  listening to our voices right now.
• 1:31:31
  Is dependent upon the microprocessors, and we are
• 1:31:34
  currently only able to get them from Taiwan and China is
• 1:31:38
  basically threatening to blockade Taiwan now.
• 1:31:41
  Not open war, but would probably lead to it.
• 1:31:48
  Yep, unless we can hold out the supply chain until Intel and
• 1:31:52
  some other partners can get online in other parts of the
• 1:31:54
  world. But the supply chain still
• 1:31:56
  depends. Part of it depended on getting
• 1:31:59
  in contact with North Korea, which Trump was trying to do.
• 1:32:02
  That was kind of part of the point because they have natural
• 1:32:05
  resources, rare earth minerals that they're selling to China,
• 1:32:09
  but China's selling to us. So Trump's idea was, hey, maybe
• 1:32:14
  I could talk to this weirdo and convince him to just sell them
• 1:32:17
  to us and make his country a fortune.
• 1:32:20
  And he can still keep his totalitarian dictatorship
• 1:32:23
  because it ain't worth it. But at least we'll be on
• 1:32:25
  peaceful terms. Right.
• 1:32:28
  Which is called a compromise. And yes, it's still a horrible
• 1:32:31
  totalitarian dictatorship. Well, but.
• 1:32:35
  At least the people there have some more money.
• 1:32:38
  Well, you know, just just just. In industry, you know.
• 1:32:41
  Just bought. Just bomb them and that'll like,
• 1:32:44
  liberate them. That's what Nikki.
• 1:32:46
  That's what Nikki. That's what Nikki Haley wants,
• 1:32:49
  at least so. Yeah, we're fighting.
• 1:32:54
  We're just going to just bomb everybody.
• 1:32:55
  That's the way to settle it. Yeah, it worked so well in Iraq.
• 1:32:59
  You know how we have the access to their natural resources in
• 1:33:03
  Iraq that we went over there for?
• 1:33:05
  Oh yeah, that worked out fucking great, didn't it?
• 1:33:08
  How much is gas, Sammy? Oh God, like.
• 1:33:13
  Was it worth the war? Like 3 dollars, three.
• 1:33:17
  No, $4.00 a gallon now. Yeah.
• 1:33:20
  I. And how much was it?
• 1:33:24
  How much was it before the war? Fucking.
• 1:33:29
  I was in high school. I can tell you my sophomore or
• 1:33:33
  junior year it was $0.89. Holy.
• 1:33:37
  Holy shit. Yeah. 89 And the war happened.
• 1:33:42
  How much was How much was McDonald's?
• 1:33:44
  Warm for oil, remember? How?
• 1:33:47
  How much was, like, fast food back then?
• 1:33:49
  That's what I want to know. Oh shit.
• 1:33:52
  We had like the dollar menu, like the actual, when it was
• 1:33:55
  actually just everything was like a dollar.
• 1:33:57
  And they had good shit on there half the time.
• 1:34:01
  No, everything was fucking cheap.
• 1:34:02
  We, me and my friends would drive around.
• 1:34:05
  That was our fucking hobby. We would drive around listening
• 1:34:08
  to music and eating fast food. Did you ever spend $10.00 for
• 1:34:11
  one person on? No, five would have been the
• 1:34:17
  absolute Max if you were being a fat ass.
• 1:34:19
  Yeah, that. Yeah, that's my.
• 1:34:21
  That's kind of my point. It's like.
• 1:34:23
  And like a pack of cigarettes was like 2 bucks.
• 1:34:25
  Yeah, it's like, that's my point is like now like you go to
• 1:34:28
  McDonald's and just like a single meal, like once you add
• 1:34:34
  everything up, it's like close to like 10, more like $10.30,
• 1:34:38
  you know, cents. It's definitely, it's definitely
• 1:34:41
  on the higher side over 5, close to 10 almost always.
• 1:34:45
  Like. Like, like you can't.
• 1:34:48
  You can't afford to be a. You can't afford to be a fat ass
• 1:34:51
  at McDonald's anymore, even, Even if you want to.
• 1:34:54
  Because I. Don't know how people do it.
• 1:34:57
  I, I, I see people that like eat like that.
• 1:35:00
  And it's like, I mean, look, McDonald's is fine.
• 1:35:04
  It's like once in a while I don't feel like cooking.
• 1:35:07
  It's fucking a Friday night. The boy wants a pizza.
• 1:35:11
  You know, That's usually what we do as a pizza.
• 1:35:15
  But that's that's rare anyway. I I usually just cook my own
• 1:35:18
  shit. But it's also it's.
• 1:35:19
  Also, it's. Still, it's still that like the
• 1:35:21
  price of chicken, which is like my main my main meat.
• 1:35:26
  Because I got a heart condition, I can only do red meat a couple
• 1:35:29
  times a month and the price of chicken is almost doubled in the
• 1:35:33
  last, like I want to say, three years.
• 1:35:36
  Yeah, yeah, it's it's not, it's not cheap, that's for sure it.
• 1:35:40
  Used to be the cheapest meat, but also like it's lean.
• 1:35:44
  And I got I get the boneless, skinless breasts and they're
• 1:35:47
  perfect, right? Yeah, But now it's to the point.
• 1:35:51
  Like, that's actually an expensive endeavor.
• 1:35:53
  I have to plan out every piece of chicken to make sure I have
• 1:35:57
  enough. I have to count, you know.
• 1:36:00
  Yeah. I never had to count, but like,
• 1:36:03
  they're double the fucking price.
• 1:36:05
  And it's not like I got double the fucking money.
• 1:36:07
  More but but hey. If I had double the fucking
• 1:36:11
  money, then it might be fine. But hey, no warming tweets,
• 1:36:15
  right? Max?
• 1:36:19
  What's what's, what's just pointing to that beautiful flag
• 1:36:23
  you've got back there, I think. I think that kind of sums up the
• 1:36:27
  whole you know, if if we haven't made it clear yet on this show,
• 1:36:33
  if you don't take anything away from this podcast, don't look at
• 1:36:37
  me, Just look at Max's flag. In the.
• 1:36:41
  And it's been up since fucking 2020.
• 1:36:47
  Yeah, as soon as I had to change the number on it.
• 1:36:50
  This will be the third time I vote for Trump no matter what.
• 1:36:55
  If you don't have asked me, put will put me on this.
• 1:36:56
  Well, what about if Trump's not there?
• 1:36:58
  I'm gonna raise his name in. Well, what about?
• 1:37:00
  Who do you think is the chaos candidate Trump?
• 1:37:03
  It it'll, it'll be. That's who the chaos candidate
• 1:37:06
  is. It'll be.
• 1:37:07
  It'll be the third. It'll be the third.
• 1:37:10
  Good chaos. It's it's the chaos we need.
• 1:37:12
  We. Look, if you're hearing my
• 1:37:14
  voice, you're a little poorer than you were fucking 3-4 years
• 1:37:17
  ago, too. I guarantee it.
• 1:37:20
  Because ain't rich people listening to this fucking
• 1:37:22
  podcast because they would be put off by how much I kind of
• 1:37:26
  shit on them. Yeah.
• 1:37:29
  It's probably hard working people.
• 1:37:31
  No, like. Like.
• 1:37:33
  Like, like myself who find themselves, they they were in a
• 1:37:36
  good spot a couple years ago, OK, a really good spot.
• 1:37:40
  In fact. They maybe bought a property for
• 1:37:42
  the first time, or a car. Or they finally, because we
• 1:37:46
  lived under the Obama recession for a fucking decade and we
• 1:37:51
  finally started to have some fucking money.
• 1:37:54
  Yeah. No, we, I mean we there are a.
• 1:37:56
  Lot and now everything costs twice as much.
• 1:38:00
  But you got pretty much the same amount of money.
• 1:38:03
  There are there are a lot of young entrepreneurs who listen
• 1:38:06
  to this, you know, show and they can't start their businesses,
• 1:38:13
  you know? Right, because they're going to
• 1:38:14
  get regulated right out of the fucking market by God damn
• 1:38:17
  Google and Microsoft, who wrote this legislation to specifically
• 1:38:21
  keep them out. Yep.
• 1:38:24
  That this is them trying to close the door on your ass and
• 1:38:27
  everybody else who thinks independently from the DEI
• 1:38:30
  fucking cult. Yeah, yeah, they're going.
• 1:38:34
  The leftism that comes with it. Yeah, they're they're going.
• 1:38:38
  Oh, and and by the way, I love this, this whole notion from,
• 1:38:42
  like, the Lincoln Project types that think, well, Trump was so
• 1:38:45
  radical, he, like, exacerbated the DE.
• 1:38:48
  No, he exacerbated the DEI. No, motherfuckers.
• 1:38:53
  What happened was, if anything, Trump halted a lot of of the DEI
• 1:38:58
  stuff because all this woke stuff, the woke stuff, did not
• 1:39:03
  happen because of Trump the woke.
• 1:39:06
  Stuff. It happened in response to
• 1:39:08
  Trump. They weren't nearly this woke.
• 1:39:11
  They weren't nearly this woke until Trump.
• 1:39:14
  Like like Woke had just come around like between the 20 Tens
• 1:39:19
  and like 2015. But what galvanized them, what
• 1:39:22
  gave them A cause, what gave them an enemy was their
• 1:39:25
  Voldemort, as they used to call him, their Satan Trump.
• 1:39:30
  It was a movement without a real fucking defined goal until
• 1:39:34
  Trump, because they decided he was against everything they
• 1:39:38
  stood for and they stand for virtue and.
• 1:39:40
  Goodness and freedom and equality and all this fucking
• 1:39:43
  bullshit. And he stood against them in
• 1:39:46
  every way. Maybe.
• 1:39:47
  Maybe Trump. Maybe Trump accelerated it.
• 1:39:50
  But my point was like. Oh, he galvanized it.
• 1:39:54
  He galvanized it one. Movement.
• 1:39:56
  It was many before. But what?
• 1:39:58
  But what I But what I'm saying is that like Hillary Clinton was
• 1:40:03
  going to push this stuff regardless if she if she were.
• 1:40:09
  If she were. It wouldn't have been a culture
• 1:40:12
  war front and center like it was because they used that as a
• 1:40:16
  means to attack Trump. No, because.
• 1:40:19
  Publicly, and to excuse any bad behavior, including rioting,
• 1:40:23
  looting, theft, and yes, murder in the name of these causes.
• 1:40:28
  Because orange man bad. Like we all joke about it.
• 1:40:32
  But think about the root of that fucking joke.
• 1:40:35
  It's true. He gave them a boogeyman that
• 1:40:39
  turned a bunch of loose movements that one was about
• 1:40:42
  racial equality and one was about because they're only
• 1:40:45
  really interested in their own thing for the most part.
• 1:40:47
  Or they were prior to the Trump years, so BLM wasn't hanging out
• 1:40:52
  with the LGBT shit. But then there was Trump.
• 1:40:57
  There was one man that they could fucking all agree.
• 1:41:00
  That was the worst man in the world.
• 1:41:02
  The thing that's wild about this too, and this is something that
• 1:41:05
  like I was talking with my Israeli friend a few weeks ago
• 1:41:10
  was all these, you know, all these woke people went from
• 1:41:17
  complaining about anti-Semitism to now like actually like
• 1:41:22
  they're they're now like unironically outlying themselves
• 1:41:26
  with like actual like, you know anti Semites, you know, and it
• 1:41:34
  it's not just I. What I don't understand about
• 1:41:37
  both sides, to be honest with you, is the complete lack of
• 1:41:40
  empathy for that. Some people on the other side
• 1:41:44
  might just be kind of caught in a bad place.
• 1:41:47
  Yeah, I mean. Like, I'm not going to say every
• 1:41:50
  Palestinian is a Hamas flag waving fucking no.
• 1:41:54
  No, I'm not. Islamist and and and especially
• 1:41:57
  children like even if they are they kind of can't help that.
• 1:42:01
  So, like and and but the same of the Israelis is is most of the
• 1:42:04
  people getting hit by rockets and shit and ambushed ain't
• 1:42:08
  exactly fucking soldiers. Yeah.
• 1:42:11
  No, I I'm not. I'm not saying that like and I'm
• 1:42:15
  I'm not. Oh, I'm not saying you are.
• 1:42:17
  I just. I find it crazy that that's the
• 1:42:19
  choice people want you to make is to give up empathy for one
• 1:42:23
  side, right? No, and I'm not.
• 1:42:26
  Boggles my mind how fucking tribalistic that is.
• 1:42:30
  It's scary and I'm not. I'm not saying that.
• 1:42:32
  I'm not saying that that, Yeah, I'm not.
• 1:42:34
  Saying and I can't say it's like not right for Jews to be scared
• 1:42:38
  of that, because that's a scary sentiment, right?
• 1:42:40
  But but what? But what I'm also saying is that
• 1:42:43
  like I. Am a fucking full blooded
• 1:42:44
  Irishman and it's a scary sentiment, you know, but what?
• 1:42:47
  But what I'm also but what I'm also saying is that like is like
• 1:42:51
  the far left was always like you know was always like trying to
• 1:42:57
  hug Jews you know and being like we're not anti they were like
• 1:43:02
  they were like a. Lot a lot of Jews are on the far
• 1:43:04
  left, you know. Yeah well that's and the and the
• 1:43:07
  Nazis will point to that to say like it's they're the ones
• 1:43:10
  ruining the world or whatever. But like, it is a fact that a
• 1:43:13
  lot of specifically reformed Jews from like the New York area
• 1:43:17
  do tend to typically be of the like, far left variety.
• 1:43:20
  Well, would you, would you be shocked if I told you that like
• 1:43:23
  David Duke here, here's a here's a news story David Duke is now
• 1:43:31
  is now saying like. I was hoping you were going to
• 1:43:34
  say dead. Gone is now saying that Rashida
• 1:43:36
  Talib is like his new favorite person in Congress have.
• 1:43:41
  You. Oh, I bet.
• 1:43:42
  I bet. And the thing, the thing that's
• 1:43:43
  interesting with that is like him and like Richard Spencer in
• 1:43:46
  them, will like attach themselves.
• 1:43:48
  To causes. Because they know nobody wants
• 1:43:51
  their endorsement, Right? Right.
• 1:43:52
  Right. But.
• 1:43:53
  But attention for them fucking selves because they're sick.
• 1:43:57
  No, no, but, but but Max. Here's the thing.
• 1:43:59
  Remember, Remember when, like, remember when when David Duke,
• 1:44:05
  like said something out of Trump and the entire left was like
• 1:44:10
  even after Trump like disavowed David Duke, they were still like
• 1:44:13
  not good enough because David Duke like mentioned your name
• 1:44:16
  and just the fact that you mentioned so like I Trump.
• 1:44:20
  Trump quit. Trump quit the fucking Reform
• 1:44:23
  Party because David Duke endorsed Pat Buchanan.
• 1:44:26
  This is like historical you can look this up yourself, right?
• 1:44:30
  Right. But like.
• 1:44:31
  And he and he said that Pat he he said some choice words for
• 1:44:35
  Pat Buchanan over it. I understand both sides
• 1:44:38
  reasoning on it. And in later years they
• 1:44:40
  reconciled over this. Yeah.
• 1:44:41
  But like, yeah, the whole point was like, Pat Buchanan was like,
• 1:44:44
  I don't care what he said, I'm not going to say anything about
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  him. And Trump was like, no, you have
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  to denounce that guy because he's a piece of shit.
• 1:44:51
  Yeah, and but and like. And they turned around and tried
• 1:44:54
  to make that an association with Trump and David Duke.
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  And he's like, yeah, the association is Trump thinks he
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  is a piece of garbage, right. And that's what I'm saying is
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  like the the corporal media was like harping on that thing for
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  like forever, but yet have they said anything out like Rasheeda
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  Talib being, like, praised by David Duke?
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  No. No, they don't fucking care.
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  They don't fucking care that she's openly anti-Semitic in the
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  fucking so. The fucking house.
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  And she has been for years. This isn't new for her,
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  especially her and Ilhan Omar. If if you haven't fucking heard
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  them, give their spiel about like how Israelis are occupiers.
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  And then you haven't been listening because they've given
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  AOC. Hasn't AOC said one thing about
• 1:45:41
  Jew shit and then got educated by like the ADL?
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  Yeah. But, but even now she's she's
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  standing with Palestine because it's the trendy thing to do on
• 1:45:53
  the left. I get it.
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  And and it seems to be they want you to have the trendy thing to
• 1:45:58
  do on the right be like unironically, enthusiastically
• 1:46:02
  pro Israel. But my heart in in any war
• 1:46:05
  situation and This is why I'm anti war universally across the
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  board, is to the other people that are there right?
• 1:46:14
  Well, I mean. And that that doesn't matter.
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  I don't care what flag their fucking parents wave.
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  I I don't. I don't really care.
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  I I just wish people would stop killing each other.
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  That's my that's my sentiment. It's corny, true.
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  But what else do you want, though?
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  Both their holy books say you shouldn't be doing that.
• 1:46:37
  Yeah, no, you, but like. It it, it is what it is.
• 1:46:42
  Like what are we supposed to do about it here?
• 1:46:45
  And and they want us to like, constantly focus on it and pick
• 1:46:47
  a side and get angry at each other and and my God, they tried
• 1:46:51
  to scale the fucking White House walls for fuck's sake.
• 1:46:55
  January 6th, they barely did fucking anything.
• 1:46:58
  They're trying to get in there and kill Joe Biden.
• 1:47:01
  And what what are you going to do about it?
• 1:47:02
  Is that a is it a terrorist group yet?
• 1:47:05
  Yeah, yeah. Like.
• 1:47:07
  He doesn't go far enough into one of their causes that they
• 1:47:10
  just found out about two weeks ago.
• 1:47:12
  But it's fucking trendy. So these white women are getting
• 1:47:14
  out there fucking going for it. They don't know a goddamn thing
• 1:47:17
  about the Middle East. Yeah, they don't know a goddamn
• 1:47:21
  thing about Judaism. They don't know a goddamn thing
• 1:47:22
  about Islam. They don't know a goddamn thing
• 1:47:24
  about the history of the colonization of fucking Israel.
• 1:47:27
  None of it. But they.
• 1:47:32
  But they're damn sure they're on the right side of it.
• 1:47:35
  And then so the other side. It doesn't matter how many you
• 1:47:37
  kill. I can't.
• 1:47:38
  You can't have empathy for the bad guy.
• 1:47:42
  Come on. And you're always the good guy
• 1:47:44
  of your own story. And your story is now attached
• 1:47:46
  to these guys. So they're the good guy.
• 1:47:48
  Yeah, that, that's that. That's the whole thing, right
• 1:47:53
  is. Yeah, I I pray everybody.
• 1:47:56
  Everybody stops dying for this and learns to live in peace.
• 1:48:01
  That's what I pray for. If that makes me anti-Semitic,
• 1:48:06
  so be it. If that makes me anti Islamic,
• 1:48:08
  so be it. But that's the truth.
• 1:48:10
  I mean, at at this point, I've been accused of both.
• 1:48:13
  So like, you know. It's whatever man.
• 1:48:18
  I wish people would stop killing each other.
• 1:48:21
  I'm not a big fan of holy wars. Yeah.
• 1:48:24
  I mean and and historically they don't, they don't end well
• 1:48:28
  either. Just look at the Crusades.
• 1:48:31
  It's It is the Crusades, in a way.
• 1:48:33
  Yeah. Well, well.
• 1:48:36
  You know it's still going on. Well, I hope it doesn't.
• 1:48:38
  I hope it doesn't last, you know with.
• 1:48:41
  The Christians have just moved aside for various reasons, yeah.
• 1:48:49
  Mostly. Mostly America.
• 1:48:50
  And like there's a there's an element of that in Zionism,
• 1:48:54
  right? Like Christian Zionism, Yeah.
• 1:48:57
  Some of them, that's their reasoning for why they're so
• 1:48:59
  enthusiastic is they think that if they bring the Jews back to
• 1:49:03
  Israel that eventually the temple will get rebuilt and they
• 1:49:07
  will bring about the end times. That's literally the point of
• 1:49:11
  being a Christian Zionist that you want to bring about the end
• 1:49:14
  time sooner. They don't even like, they don't
• 1:49:19
  even actually really give a fuck about Jews.
• 1:49:22
  If you think about it, they're the they're the vessel that you
• 1:49:26
  need to get your prophecy started.
• 1:49:29
  So you help them get there. Yeah, I know.
• 1:49:31
  You're you're right. So, all right, well, that's
• 1:49:36
  their kids. Their kids getting bombed on
• 1:49:39
  either side and my heart goes up to them and you know anybody
• 1:49:42
  else that's losing family members and I just wish that
• 1:49:45
  would stop, isn't that? Is that too corny?
• 1:49:47
  Is that too like? Are we in that jaded of a world?
• 1:49:52
  I can't even say that, no. I, I hope not, not in my book.
• 1:49:59
  So, but anyway, well, I mean I think we've, you know, I think
• 1:50:07
  we kind of covered all of our bases.
• 1:50:10
  You know, we brought up AI. Well, everyone else is talking
• 1:50:12
  about foreign wars. We're talking about stuff that
• 1:50:14
  is going on here at home because we do try and be different here
• 1:50:19
  on the. And it's going to be decided in
• 1:50:21
  the election. Inevitably, yeah.
• 1:50:24
  This is this is Joe Biden executive order.
• 1:50:26
  This is another thing you can run on free if you unshackle AI,
• 1:50:31
  yeah. Hashtag free AI?
• 1:50:35
  Yeah. And if one and one thing I one
• 1:50:39
  thing, I'll save this for the next episode.
• 1:50:41
  But Elon just released X dot AI, so we'll see how that goes.
• 1:50:50
  Have had a chance to play around with it at this time, but maybe.
• 1:50:55
  It's your website. Yeah, gone.
• 1:51:00
  Yeah, yeah. Well also X slash Twitter keeps
• 1:51:04
  crashing too so. Every now and again it says that
• 1:51:09
  Y'all last posted in 1969. Yeah, I don't.
• 1:51:14
  Know why? But all of a sudden everybody
• 1:51:16
  posted nothing in like March 3rd, 1969.
• 1:51:22
  I you know, I wasn't even, I wasn't even even born then.
• 1:51:28
  So like. I know, but you posted something
• 1:51:31
  and so did every everybody else on my fucking feed for like 2
• 1:51:35
  hours. You know there was a there was a
• 1:51:38
  bug where like there was a bug where I literally had to type
• 1:51:41
  out your whole handle to like tag you.
• 1:51:45
  It wouldn't it wouldn't populate in the little field which is
• 1:51:51
  which that's terrific. I I I had to double check to
• 1:51:54
  make sure you were still following me and vice versa.
• 1:51:57
  That's that's lovely so. Fix your shit.
• 1:52:03
  But thanks for the AII guess. Yeah, well, that that that you
• 1:52:10
  can't even use because it crashes.
• 1:52:12
  Every time you try and sign up for it, you get a four O 4
• 1:52:16
  error. So brilliant.
• 1:52:19
  Lovely. Yeah, I I now I now I'm really
• 1:52:23
  now I'm really feeling good about Tesla's software updates.
• 1:52:27
  So thank God I thank God I don't need a software update to use my
• 1:52:31
  wheelchair, because if I did, I'd probably be fucked.
• 1:52:36
  But anyway, we'll see you next when?
• 1:52:39
  We'll see you on Wednesday, folks.
• 1:52:41
  IG on that bitch and you know, we'll hopefully we'll have some
• 1:52:48
  more. Program your brain into the
• 1:52:50
  communist gangster computer. God, yeah.
• 1:52:54
  Yeah. See ya.
• 1:52:57
  Mull that one over for the next couple days, ladies and
• 1:53:00
  gentlemen. Thanks for listening to the
• 1:53:07
  Whitfield report on the NGC network.
• 1:53:11
  Please visit Sam's website at www.thesamwhitfield.com and
• 1:53:18
  support Sam on patreon@patreon.com/whitfield
• 1:53:22
  report. Until next time, God bless.
• 1:53:26
  God save this great nation and God, freedom, legacy, in that
• 1:53:31
  order.