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The Kenny Report | 14 August · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Sky New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me tonight. Next week's economic roundtable is
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Speaker 3: the fix already in Anthony Alberinezi switches from echoing Hummas
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Speaker 3: propaganda to warning about it. I'll show you how the
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Speaker 3: ABC has unremembered the October the seventh atrocities and the
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Speaker 3: Israeli hostages. The gender diversity debate erupts again in Victorian schools.
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Speaker 3: I'll preview the Trump Putin summit with Alexander Downer, and
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Speaker 3: we'll wrap it all up, including with some gene therapy
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Speaker 3: with Mark Nicholson and Johannes Leek. Let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: This Economic reform Roundtable next week is really being exposed
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Speaker 3: for the face that it is, which we've always said
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Speaker 3: it would be. Of course, a story broken today by
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Speaker 3: the ABC of all places, revealed that Treasury advice has
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Speaker 3: already been prepared the likely outcomes from the summit.
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Speaker 4: And it just tells me this whole thing is a
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Speaker 4: stitch up. This productivity round table is a stitch up
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Speaker 4: because people are attending in good faith and they want
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Speaker 4: to contribute to a discussion about improving productivity in this country.
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Speaker 5: I don't think it should come as a surprise to
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Speaker 5: anyone that the Treasury has been briefing us on those
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Speaker 5: issues that have been raised in the very substantial consultation
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Speaker 5: that we have undertaken.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Paul, the other one. Nothing to see here. Look,
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Speaker 3: it's been clear from the outset that this round table
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Speaker 3: would be used to deliver preordained outcomes that the government wants.
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Speaker 3: It's just a way to pretend that there's some sort
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Speaker 3: of consensus forming around its agenda. That was made pretty
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Speaker 3: clear by the Prime Minister when he said this yesterday.
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Speaker 6: I think there's a range of things that we can
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Speaker 6: do immediately out of the round table. That's what I
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Speaker 6: hope is that there's an agreement that there's some low
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Speaker 6: hanging for it out there that we can get done.
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Speaker 6: There's other measures that will feed into next year's budget.
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Speaker 6: There's other things that could be for a future term
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Speaker 6: of government.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they know what they expect to get out of it.
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Speaker 3: Plus they'll happily take on board some of the tax
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Speaker 3: increase ideas and try to create momentum around them for
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Speaker 3: the next budget or something. Sadly, the three things we
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Speaker 3: need most will not happen, and they are significant reductions
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Speaker 3: in the size and therefore the cost of government, unpacking
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Speaker 3: some of the green energy agenda to reduce electricity prices,
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Speaker 3: and reducing union power to free up the labor market.
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Speaker 3: Those are three things the government could start doing tomorrow
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Speaker 3: at no cost, but they won't because they're driven by
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Speaker 3: big government green ideology and they're controlled by the unions.
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Speaker 3: I guess the best we can hope for is a
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Speaker 3: bit of an assault on red tape and needless regulation.
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Speaker 3: The Islamist terrorists of HUMMAS are playing our Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: Anthony Alberzi like a puppet. After that statement yesterday from
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Speaker 3: the office of HUMMAS co founder Hassan Yusuf praising Albanesi
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Speaker 3: for recognizing the non existent state of Palestine, that was
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Speaker 3: pretty terrible for Albo because it just confirmed what so
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Speaker 3: many knew.
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Speaker 4: It rewards them and it emboldens them.
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Speaker 3: This is rewarding terrorists. This rewards terrorism.
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Speaker 2: Rewarding and embolding a terrorist organization because we.
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Speaker 3: Can be rewarded and we can claim it as a victory. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: Albanesi was playing with fire, going along with the narrative
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Speaker 3: promulgated by Hamas, going along with their demonization of Israel
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Speaker 3: and wild claims about what was happening in Gaza.
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Speaker 6: Hamas is a terrorist organization. It has no role to play.
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Speaker 6: And Hamas, I've seen some of the comments that have
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Speaker 6: been made about Hamas somehow being rewarded. Hamas is opposed
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Speaker 6: to two states. This is the opposite of what Hamas wants.
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Speaker 3: Well, now Albo has leapt upon another statement from Hamas
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Speaker 3: saying Yusev didn't issue the statement because he's in an
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Speaker 3: Israeli prison. Well, yes, the terrorist leader has been in
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Speaker 3: and out of prison. But nine media who sourced the
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Speaker 3: original statement say it came from his office in the
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Speaker 3: West Bank. So all this had our prime ministers today
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Speaker 3: trying to blame the media for his diplomatic mess.
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Speaker 6: They say that the alleged statement from the person yesterday
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Speaker 6: as someone who's been in prison in Israel since October
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty three and has no means of communication. What
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Speaker 6: that should be as a warning to the media of
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Speaker 6: being very careful about the fact that Hamash will engage
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Speaker 6: in propaganda.
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Speaker 3: Really, Albanzi knows his own office and those of other
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Speaker 3: politicians constantly issue statements on behalf of their leaders. And
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Speaker 3: how can he now pick and choose which propaganda statements
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Speaker 3: from Hummas he believes in which he doesn't.
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Speaker 6: Well, what I say is that they shouldn't repeat Hamas's
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Speaker 6: propaganda because it is Hamas which will engage in propaganda
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Speaker 6: because they are being isolated.
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Speaker 3: This is too much, isn't it. Of course Hummas uses propaganda.
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Speaker 3: Of course they can't be trusted. That's why Albanesi has
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Speaker 3: been so reckless, buying their narrative and feeding them a
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Speaker 3: propaganda victory by demonizing Israel. Just about everything Albanesi has
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Speaker 3: said about Gaza, from casualty numbers and claims of deliberate
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Speaker 3: starvation responses to orchestrated and misleading photographs, it's all been
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Speaker 3: parroting the Hummas propaganda that's amplified by the media.
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Speaker 7: This young boy, there are various images of him.
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Speaker 3: It has been very powerful. It clearly has stirred a
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Speaker 3: lot of global reaction. I mean, how have these sort
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Speaker 3: of images made you feel personally?
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Speaker 6: Well, it's not just that image, but many of them
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Speaker 6: just break your heart. The images that we've seen, it's
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Speaker 6: not surprising that so many Australians have been affected. In
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Speaker 6: order to want to show their concern at people being
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Speaker 6: deprived of food and water and essential services. The Israeli
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Speaker 6: government continues to defy international law and deny sufficient aid,
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Speaker 6: food and water to desperate people, including children.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Albo is a fine one to warn about hummus propaganda,
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Speaker 3: isn't he talk about pots and kettles. The bottom line
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Speaker 3: is that Albanezi has played in the Hamas's hands by
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Speaker 3: blaming his by demonizing Israel, by trying to appease Palestinian
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Speaker 3: activists with the fantasy proposal of a recognized state, thereby
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Speaker 3: easing the international pressure on Humas to lay down its
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Speaker 3: arms and end the war and hand back the Israeli
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Speaker 3: hostages that it's starving and torturing to this day, As
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Speaker 3: the Israeli Ambassador to Australia said on social media, calling
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Speaker 3: out Hummas propaganda, is right. Doing it only when it
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Speaker 3: suits politics, is not. Hummas always lies about casualty numbers,
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Speaker 3: about hiding in hospitals and schools, and about who really
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Speaker 3: puts Gazans at risk. Truth is not selective spot on.
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Speaker 3: So much of what we get in the media, and
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Speaker 3: so much that has been repeated by Albanizi is just
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Speaker 3: humm us propaganda. Listen to this assessment from a former
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Speaker 3: US ambassador to Israel, history will record that as Israel
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Speaker 3: faced a brutal battle with terrorists from Hummas, and as
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Speaker 3: Hummas continued to hold Israeli's hostage under the most barbaric conditions, Canada, Britain,
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Speaker 3: Australia and France all betrayed their longtime friend and ally
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Speaker 3: in order to plicate their radical Islamist populations. Yeah, it
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Speaker 3: is a disgrace and Albanese's pretense that he has a
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Speaker 3: plan for peace remains laughable.
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Speaker 6: What the international community is saying now that there are
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Speaker 6: three generations of people who have suffered from conflict in
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Speaker 6: the Middle East, both Israeli and Palestinian, that we need
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Speaker 6: to find a path to peace.
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Speaker 3: That path, according to Albanizi, is to demand Israel stops
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Speaker 3: fighting Humas and then just hope that the roarists voluntarily
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Speaker 3: disarm and disappear. They seem to hope, and a warning,
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Speaker 3: I'm about to show you some more disturbing vision. They
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Speaker 3: seem to hope that perhaps hostages like Evieta David seen
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Speaker 3: here after twenty two months as a hostage, they seem
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Speaker 3: to hope he might be released and the other hostages
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Speaker 3: sometime down the track. As some gesture of goodwill or something.
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Speaker 3: This stuff is just so naive, so painful to watch,
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Speaker 3: and clearly is shaped by Hummas propaganda. The United Nations
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Speaker 3: vote on Palestinian statehood is a month away. Still it's
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Speaker 3: not too late for Albanezi to admit he doesn't know
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Speaker 3: what he's talking about, that he's got it wrong, and
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Speaker 3: return this country, our proud country of Australia, to a
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Speaker 3: position of support for the defense of Israel and its
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Speaker 3: citizens in their liberal democracy, rather than backing the twisted
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Speaker 3: narrative of Islamist terrorist groups. Speaking of propaganda, let me
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Speaker 3: show you some of the pro Palestinian, anti Israel tosh
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Speaker 3: that the ABC delivers at your expense. This is a
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Speaker 3: video post made by their so called Global Affairs editor
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Speaker 3: Laura Tingle, a longtime Press Gallery reporter and the ABC
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Speaker 3: staff elected board member No less. This clip is essentially
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Speaker 3: an attempt to explain, justify and advocate for the Albanese
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Speaker 3: government's decision to recognize the nonexistent Palestinian state. Tingle starts
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Speaker 3: by saying the decision is overdue and then explains why
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Speaker 3: she reckons it's happened now.
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Speaker 8: Israel has long held a moral authority Western countries, and
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Speaker 8: of course Western countries have also known that the United
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Speaker 8: States always backs Israel, but the erratic diplomacy of Donald
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Speaker 8: Trump has changed all of that. Other Western countries are
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Speaker 8: now saying, we've got to get on with things without him,
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Speaker 8: because we just don't know where he's going to go next.
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Speaker 8: So we've seen a change in Western countries views of Israel,
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Speaker 8: as well as the change in Israel produced by the
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Speaker 8: very far right government led by Benjamin Netanyahu.
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Speaker 3: That's right. Even though Tingle reckons this move is overdue,
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Speaker 3: she somehow blames it if that's not too much of
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Speaker 3: a paradox on the left's bogey man, Donald Trump and
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Speaker 3: their other hate figure, the Israeli Prime Minister. Yes, the
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Speaker 3: left apparently has been pushed into action only by the
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Speaker 3: overreach of right. Have said to politicians or far right
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Speaker 3: as they would put it, this is a level of
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Speaker 3: political and foreign policy analysis that belongs in the university
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Speaker 3: bar or maybe on a march across the Sydney Harbor Bridge.
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Speaker 3: But it gets worse. Tingle claims the Arab world is
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Speaker 3: pressuring Hmas to disarm. Well, that's working pretty well, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: And she also cites domestic pressures.
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Speaker 8: Pressure's obviously been building at home to recognize Palestine amongst
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Speaker 8: people distressed by what they've been seeing in Gaza. What's
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Speaker 8: happened though to bring it about so quickly in the
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Speaker 8: last couple of weeks, After all, the Prime Minister was
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Speaker 8: saying just at the end of July that recognition wasn't
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Speaker 8: happening anytime soon. Two things have happened in the last
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Speaker 8: few weeks which have really changed the landscape. One of
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Speaker 8: them is the specter of mass starvation in Gaza and
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Speaker 8: the pictures of small children dying of starvation. The other
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Speaker 8: thing that's happened, of course, is that Benjamin Netanya who
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Speaker 8: has signaled he wants to escalate his attack on Gaza
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Speaker 8: and move into Gaza City, which is one of the
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Speaker 8: last areas of Gaza that has not been completely destroyed
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Speaker 8: to date.
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Speaker 3: Yep. There it is Hummaus propaganda. What an echo loop
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Speaker 3: this is? The ABC amplifies Hummus propaganda. Then they cite
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Speaker 3: the reaction to that propaganda as justification for the disastrous
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Speaker 3: foreign policy moves that they back. Shameless Tellingly, Tingle admits
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Speaker 3: this whole move is not about finding a workable peace,
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Speaker 3: but rather about putting pressure on Israel to end the war,
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Speaker 3: that is, to stop pursuing Hummas and leave the Islamist
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Speaker 3: extremists in charge. But get this, I can't quite believe this,
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Speaker 3: And while it makes me angry, it mainly just leaves
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Speaker 3: me feeling so sad and so despondent. While Tingle mentions
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Speaker 3: suffering in Gaza, blames Trump and Netanyahu, talks about some
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Speaker 3: imagined pressure on Hummus, never once mentions. Not a word
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Speaker 3: does she utter about the October the seventh atrocities that
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Speaker 3: triggered this that deliberately triggered this war. No word about
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Speaker 3: families slaughtered, No reference to young girls raped and butchered.
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Speaker 3: Not from Tingle a single phrase about the little boys
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Speaker 3: taken as hostages with their mother and then killed. And
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Speaker 3: not a word about the hostages, not a single mention
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Speaker 3: of hostages taken, raped, murdered, tortured, starved, and still held
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Speaker 3: to this day, almost two years on. That's the political
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Speaker 3: left for you. They masquerade under the banner of claimed
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Speaker 3: humanitarian concerns, but so often they shone none of it,
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Speaker 3: at least not to Israelis and Jews, because they prefer
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Speaker 3: political sides and ideological battles over any regard for the facts,
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Speaker 3: human rights, and common decency now something to a little
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Speaker 3: more uplifting. As you probably know, there's now a long
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Speaker 3: procession of ambitious young Ossies who have made names for
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Speaker 3: themselves as punters in American football. Ozzie rules kicking skills
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Speaker 3: translate pretty well to gridiron's punting role. Eddie Maguire's son
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Speaker 3: Joe is one who's found glory of late. He helped
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Speaker 3: to bring home the National College championship with Ohio State
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Speaker 3: earlier this year. But the latest Ozzie export is nineteen
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Speaker 3: year old Archie Wilson, and he's captured global attention for
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Speaker 3: sharing the hardship of cha seeing his overseas sporting dream.
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Speaker 9: First time you're away from them.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that part's hard.
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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm I'm sorry. Yeah, I loved it a lot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. This young punter from Frankston in Victoria is a
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Speaker 3: pretty big unit. He's six foot two and almost a
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Speaker 3: one hundred kilos in a pretty much o sport. But
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Speaker 3: he misses home.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I have, I got two little brothers in a
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Speaker 9: moment that Yeah, that's the tough part about being I
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Speaker 9: love them a lot and I missed them.
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Speaker 3: Good on him, and it's not easy for his family
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Speaker 3: back home either.
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Speaker 10: I watched it very early this morning and there was
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Speaker 10: a few tears, but I think the emotion of it
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Speaker 10: being his birthday as well and us not being there
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Speaker 10: with him on his birthday just.
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Speaker 2: One brother for now.
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Speaker 11: Maybe if she games in. I realized he's kind of
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Speaker 11: a popular person.
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Speaker 3: We'll see how he goes in his career. Hey, but
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Speaker 3: this bloke's already won over a lot of hearts in
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Speaker 3: the US college football scene with millions of views of
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Speaker 3: all this online because he's reminded everybody of a pretty
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Speaker 3: universal truth. Football is big, but nothing's bigger than family.
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Speaker 9: Thanks guys, great minor.
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Speaker 3: Well done, young man, and the good news is that
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Speaker 3: mum and Dad and the little brothers are heading to
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Speaker 3: the US to catch up with Archie next week. Let's
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Speaker 3: hope he does well. Then he can come home and
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Speaker 3: play some proper footy. Let's get back into a national
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Speaker 3: politics now, catch up with Anne Webster, who's the Shadow
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Speaker 3: Minister for Regional Development. She's the member for Malian Victoria,
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Speaker 3: but she joins us from Port Macquarie in New South
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Speaker 3: Wales tonight. Good to talk to you, and I've got
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Speaker 3: to get your thoughts on the latest shenatigans with Anthony.
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Speaker 3: But is he trying to admonish the media for repeating
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Speaker 3: Hamas propaganda when that's pretty much all we've heard from
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Speaker 3: him these past twenty two months.
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Speaker 12: Well, it's really quite extraordinary, Chris, isn't it. He's not
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Speaker 12: a cheerleader for Hamas well. You know, if you look
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Speaker 12: like it, if you sound like it, maybe you actually are.
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Speaker 12: And I think that he's been very happy to present
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Speaker 12: the views of Hamas and not question photos, not question
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Speaker 12: the stories, and now of course it's in his favor
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Speaker 12: to say, please don't believe what you read from Hamas,
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Speaker 12: that Yusuf's actually in jail and his officers making up
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Speaker 12: their own stories. I don't know what he thinks, but
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Speaker 12: if he's not a cheerleader, he's certainly learning some dance
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Speaker 12: moves to try and take away his responsibility as the
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Speaker 12: Prime Minister of Australia to represent Australians and the decision
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Speaker 12: he has made with Penny Wong to valid eight Palestinian
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Speaker 12: statehood will not make one iota of difference to the hostages,
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Speaker 12: to the people in Gaza who are suffering without aid
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Speaker 12: and without the amount of aid that they need to
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Speaker 12: must being in power. You know, these are things that
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Speaker 12: are not going away because he's making a what is
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Speaker 12: really a localized political statement on the world stage.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's bring it back to your portfolio area now,
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Speaker 3: regional development in this country. You're electorc of malee Is
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Speaker 3: of course in regional Australia, and you have been connecting
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Speaker 3: with regional Australia again in Port Macquarie. Of course, one
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Speaker 3: of the new changes that could get a kick along
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Speaker 3: in this Economic Summit next week is the road user
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Speaker 3: charges and a plan to bring it in firstly with
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Speaker 3: heavy vehicles. Isn't this another hit that's going to attack
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Speaker 3: regional Australia ahead of the rest of the country.
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Speaker 12: Well, you know, heavy vehicle users bring product to port,
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Speaker 12: they bring product to markets, they allow us to eat,
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Speaker 12: and our heavy vehicle users need to be supported not punished.
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Speaker 12: You know, I think that the idea of subsidies being
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Speaker 12: taken away from EV drivers and taxes being applied to
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Speaker 12: EV drivers would actually make far more difference to what
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Speaker 12: it means to live across Australia. More broadly, it just
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Speaker 12: seems to me that labor are so intent on ensuring
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Speaker 12: that their urban electorates are looked after, and they have
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Speaker 12: no idea what goes on out in the regions.
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Speaker 3: That's a good point. Rather than trying to impose new
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Speaker 3: taxes to make up for the lack of petrol taxes
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Speaker 3: on evs, just get rid of all those subsidies and
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Speaker 3: tax breaks that they now give to evs.
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Speaker 12: Well, wouldn't that be a good idea, honestly, if we
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Speaker 12: just had some transparency about the subsidies that the Labor
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Speaker 12: Government has endorsed and is pushing through for EV drivers,
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Speaker 12: for the renewable industry itself, I think Australians would be
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Speaker 12: pretty horrified at the money that we are pouring down
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Speaker 12: the drain for an ideology. Let's face it, that's what
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Speaker 12: it is, and targets that are frankly not reachable and
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Speaker 12: everyday Australians and Australians out in the regions are the
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Speaker 12: ones who ultimately suffer.
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Speaker 3: And we thanks for joining us appreciated and webs of
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Speaker 3: their live from Port Macquarie in New South Wales. She's
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Speaker 3: the Shadow Minister for Regional Development. Let's catch up now
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Speaker 3: with John Keo, who's the economics editor of the Australian
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Speaker 3: Financial Review, and I want to get his take on
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Speaker 3: what's happening in Canberra next week. He joins us from
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Speaker 3: the nation's capital. Good to talk to you again, John,
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Speaker 3: tell us, to what extent do you think that there's
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Speaker 3: economic reform round table once was a productivity round table?
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Speaker 3: To what extent do you think the outcomes are predetermined?
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Speaker 13: Look, Chris, I think in all these sorts of summits
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Speaker 13: and roundtables, there's a little bit of pre preparation and
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Speaker 13: planning for how the government's going to respond, and people
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Speaker 13: are putting forward submissions. We know what their sort of
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Speaker 13: positions generally are, so I think it's natural that the
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Speaker 13: government sort of has a bit of a pre planned
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Speaker 13: position or range of issues. I don't get the sense
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Speaker 13: it's a complete stitch up, like the Jobs and Skills
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Speaker 13: Summit in twenty twenty two where labor and the unions
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Speaker 13: just really ambushed business on a whole lot of union
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Speaker 13: friendly industrial relations changes. I do get the sense there's
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Speaker 13: a little more good will, although business is still very
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Speaker 13: wary from that experience three years ago.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at what the Prime Minister had
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Speaker 3: to say about this today.
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Speaker 6: We encourage people to come forward with ideas. We don't
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Speaker 6: want to have a rule in rerule out game. I've
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Speaker 6: said before, I've quoted what is I think a pretty
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Speaker 6: pretty good quote historic, which is, if you think think
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Speaker 6: you're the smartest in the room, you're in the wrong room.
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Speaker 6: We want to open things up.
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Speaker 9: We're going to hear from people.
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Speaker 6: Any ideas that you have reform we're happy to hear
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Speaker 6: as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope it's true to that word. As you say, John,
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Speaker 3: it's natural that they would look at some of those
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Speaker 3: things they can do already. The Prime Minister has talked
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Speaker 3: about low hanging fruit. To what extent do you think
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Speaker 3: that business in particular might also look at this as
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Speaker 3: an opportunity not to get instant outcomes, but try and
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Speaker 3: get the government focused on some things like cutting red
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Speaker 3: tape and regulation, perhaps looking to some meaningful company tax reform.
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Speaker 14: Yeah.
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Speaker 13: Look, I think the big agreement point is going to
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Speaker 13: be like streamlining a lot of the red tape, the
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Speaker 13: approvals for housing, other parts of the economy, infrastructure and
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Speaker 13: stuff as well. We can probably all agree that the left,
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Speaker 13: the right, the Union's business it's just two down, slow
23:50
Speaker 13: to build things in this country. But I mean, even
23:53
Speaker 13: with that, you can get agreement at the politician and
23:56
Speaker 13: bureaucratic level, but it's actually in the implementation doing that
24:00
Speaker 13: really matters. It's got to filter down to the local councils,
24:04
Speaker 13: the state governments, the bureaucrats here in Canberra who are
24:07
Speaker 13: sort of assessing environmental approvals and things like that.
24:11
Speaker 3: So the proof will.
24:12
Speaker 13: Actually be in them eating and we won't immediately know
24:14
Speaker 13: if that's been successful. And I suspect it's easier said
24:17
Speaker 13: than done. On tax reform, I mean, the Prime Minister
24:21
Speaker 13: has been pretty clear he's not up for making major
24:23
Speaker 13: tax changes that he didn't take the last election. He's
24:26
Speaker 13: not up for changing the GST. And also one other
24:31
Speaker 13: thing that's off the table here, Chris, At least from
24:33
Speaker 13: a business perspective, the government is sort of basically saying, well,
24:37
Speaker 13: we're not going to undo our industrial relations changes. We're
24:39
Speaker 13: not going to have more flexibility in the workplace, even
24:42
Speaker 13: though the unions are actually free to come to the
24:44
Speaker 13: table at now and propose kind of idolistic things like
24:48
Speaker 13: four day work weeks and things like that.
24:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, labor market reform is the big one. If you
24:53
Speaker 3: don't talk about that you're not serious about productivity. Yes, sadly, John. Note,
24:57
Speaker 3: while I got you, I want to go back to
24:58
Speaker 3: a topic where I think you'll reporting has been outstanding
25:01
Speaker 3: over a number of months and I've been keen to
25:03
Speaker 3: talk to you about it. Here's one of your articles
25:05
Speaker 3: talking about how productivity is dragged down by government jobs
25:09
Speaker 3: and by NDIS jobs, and you've come up with a
25:12
Speaker 3: statistic that four and five of the jobs created over
25:15
Speaker 3: the past two years have been in the non market sector,
25:19
Speaker 3: which are occupations in industries heavily when influenced by government
25:23
Speaker 3: spending and regulation. Now sure cares and age care workers
25:29
Speaker 3: and nurses. We understand they're very important jobs, but when
25:32
Speaker 3: you look at the NDIS in particular, there's an enormous amount,
25:35
Speaker 3: an increasing amount of the workforce and government spending going
25:38
Speaker 3: into non productive parts of the economy. Yeah.
25:43
Speaker 13: Absolutely, And Chris, these are not just my stats. These
25:46
Speaker 13: are from the Australian Bureau of Statistics, so these are
25:49
Speaker 13: very official and legitimate.
25:50
Speaker 3: Absolutely, center of the.
25:51
Speaker 13: Jobs created over the last two years non market economy jobs.
25:55
Speaker 13: As you say, it's sort of age care, disability support, education,
25:59
Speaker 13: how healthcare and then bureaucracy has gotten a lot bigger
26:02
Speaker 13: as well at the federal and state level too, and
26:04
Speaker 13: you know, safety roles and things like this. But anyway, look,
26:08
Speaker 13: it is a bit of an issue, no doubt. A
26:10
Speaker 13: lot of those jobs are necessary, they service jobs, helping
26:13
Speaker 13: people all that. But the ndis for mine, is the
26:15
Speaker 13: big one. There's a lot of resources being channeled into it.
26:19
Speaker 13: Fifty two billion dollars a year now of taxpayer money,
26:22
Speaker 13: and you hear all sorts of stories and see newspaper
26:25
Speaker 13: stories about how the money's being wasted, not efficiently well spent.
26:29
Speaker 13: And at the same time, we're running what's known as
26:31
Speaker 13: a full employment economy, where unemployment today four point two percent.
26:36
Speaker 13: Business is still struggling to get workers, and so what
26:39
Speaker 13: it means is that productive parts of the economy, like
26:43
Speaker 13: the market business sector, are struggling to find the workers
26:47
Speaker 13: they need and have to pay higher wages because a
26:50
Speaker 13: lot of it's being sucked into this less productive sector
26:53
Speaker 13: and the non market share of the economy. It hasn't
26:56
Speaker 13: had any productivity growth for two decades, whereas actually the
27:00
Speaker 13: market sector of the economy, of the labor market there
27:03
Speaker 13: it's basically back to normal trend growth in productivity. So
27:06
Speaker 13: that's the big difference. That's why we've got really flatlining productivity.
27:11
Speaker 3: It's a massive issue, John, and look forward to reading
27:14
Speaker 3: more of your reporting on it. Thanks for joining us,
27:16
Speaker 3: John Keo. They're the economics editor of the Australian Financial Review.
27:20
Speaker 3: We've got to get to a break on the other
27:22
Speaker 3: side of that, the gender debate. It's erupted again in
27:26
Speaker 3: Victoria's education system. There's a disturbing story about what our
27:34
Speaker 3: children are being taught in the classroom. Rachel Baxendale in
27:38
Speaker 3: The Australian reports that Victoria's curriculum has been updated to
27:42
Speaker 3: teach children as young as five that their body parts
27:46
Speaker 3: may not match their gender and that biologically male students
27:51
Speaker 3: who identify as female are entitled to play sport on girls' teams.
27:57
Speaker 3: And incredibly, Victorian premiage is sent to Allan doesn't have
28:00
Speaker 3: an issue with this curriculum being used to advocate radical
28:04
Speaker 3: gender theory.
28:05
Speaker 1: I have seen first hand how important the respectful Relationships
28:11
Speaker 1: program is because it's in my kid's school, and so yes,
28:14
Speaker 1: I back the respectful Relationships program and the curriculum that
28:19
Speaker 1: is all about protecting kids.
28:22
Speaker 3: Let's bring in Rachel Wong, CEO of Women's Forum Australia.
28:25
Speaker 3: Good to talk to you again, l Have you had
28:27
Speaker 3: a look at this curriculum and do you have concerns
28:29
Speaker 3: about it?
28:31
Speaker 11: Good evening, Chris.
28:32
Speaker 10: Yes, I've had a bit of a look and obviously
28:34
Speaker 10: seen the coverage day in the Australian and yeah, look,
28:37
Speaker 10: I think it's incredibly alarming, both the content and the
28:40
Speaker 10: fact that the Victorian Premiere is so in full force
28:44
Speaker 10: behind it.
28:45
Speaker 11: I mean, what a terrible.
28:46
Speaker 10: Message to be sending young kids that they are somehow
28:48
Speaker 10: born wrong or have the wrong body parts. And not
28:51
Speaker 10: only is it ridiculous, but it's incredibly confusing and harmful
28:55
Speaker 10: for these children because when they're hearing things like this
28:58
Speaker 10: from an authority figure like a teacher, they're going to
29:00
Speaker 10: believe it.
29:02
Speaker 3: Now, obviously it's an issue in Victoria at the moment,
29:04
Speaker 3: but we have a national curriculum. This stuff flows nationwide eventually.
29:08
Speaker 3: Are you worried that we're getting this right across the nation?
29:12
Speaker 10: I think it's definitely a concern. I mean, we know
29:14
Speaker 10: that there has already been inklings of gender ideology throughout
29:17
Speaker 10: various curriculums when schools invite various activists into those schools,
29:22
Speaker 10: but to have it formalized, and the Victorian curriculum, I
29:24
Speaker 10: think is very concerning, and that this could potentially happen
29:27
Speaker 10: in other states as well is also very concerning.
29:30
Speaker 3: Let's have a listen to a bit more of what
29:32
Speaker 3: the premier had to say. You got pretty fired up
29:34
Speaker 3: about this.
29:36
Speaker 1: Transgender kids are fifteen times more likely to kill themselves.
29:40
Speaker 1: So whether it's across our schooling system or across our
29:43
Speaker 1: health system, supporting those kids and supporting those families should
29:48
Speaker 1: be a priority because it's the right thing to do.
29:50
Speaker 1: What's not right, what's not right is this ongoing campaign
29:56
Speaker 1: to tear down programs. They are about strengthening kids resilient.
30:00
Speaker 1: It's about preventing bullying, it's about protecting kids against future harm.
30:06
Speaker 9: That's what needs to stop.
30:08
Speaker 3: Victorian Premier just sent to Allen there, Rachel. This kind
30:11
Speaker 3: of gets to the core of the debate here, right.
30:13
Speaker 3: They always throw up the extreme cases as a reason
30:17
Speaker 3: to justify doing everything in this space. And of course
30:20
Speaker 3: everybody in this debate understands that there will be some children,
30:23
Speaker 3: very small numbers of them, but some children facing real
30:27
Speaker 3: gender issues and they need to be treated with kindness
30:31
Speaker 3: and respect. But it's about the damage that's done to
30:34
Speaker 3: so many more children by sowing the seeds of doubt
30:38
Speaker 3: and uncertainty I suppose, and even pushing options in front
30:41
Speaker 3: of them.
30:43
Speaker 11: Absolutely, Chris, if the premiere really really cared about these vulnerable,
30:48
Speaker 11: gender confused children, then she will be looking into the
30:51
Speaker 11: gender affirmation model that is rampant throughout the healthcare system
30:54
Speaker 11: in Victoria and is putting these children on these irreversible
30:58
Speaker 11: and halfull medical pathway. And of course children who.
31:01
Speaker 10: Are gender to stressed are going to be more likely
31:03
Speaker 10: to have issues like suicidality because they're the ones who
31:08
Speaker 10: are dealing with things like anxiety and depression, who come
31:11
Speaker 10: from backgrounds of sexual abuse and trauma.
31:13
Speaker 11: It's not because they're trans per se, it's because of.
31:16
Speaker 10: These underlying issues that aren't being dealt with by the
31:18
Speaker 10: healthcare system because in Victoria, like other states now in Australia,
31:22
Speaker 10: you're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to
31:24
Speaker 10: provide holistic care to these young people because if you do,
31:27
Speaker 10: you're potentially going to get fined or go to prison
31:29
Speaker 10: because of the various conversion laws.
31:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've got to be open about it and
31:33
Speaker 3: have a debate about it. You've got to be able
31:34
Speaker 3: to discuss this, not just shut it down like the premiere,
31:37
Speaker 3: because every parent has a right to know what's going
31:39
Speaker 3: on in their schools and their kids' education. Thanks for
31:41
Speaker 3: joining us, Rachel, appreciate it. Rachel Wong there, who's with
31:44
Speaker 3: Women's Forum Australia. But I take a break. On the
31:47
Speaker 3: other side, I'm going to catch up with the former
31:49
Speaker 3: Foreign Minister Alexander Downer, as we do every Thursday, to
31:52
Speaker 3: discuss the upcoming summit between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin,
31:58
Speaker 3: primarily over Ukraine. Of course, let's get into some foreign
32:05
Speaker 3: policy issues now with Australia's longest serving foreign minister, former
32:09
Speaker 3: Foreign Minister Alexander Dwanna, joining us live from Adelaide. Good
32:12
Speaker 3: to talk to you again, Alexander. First up, I've got
32:15
Speaker 3: to get your thoughts on Anthony al Benezi throwing his
32:18
Speaker 3: lot in with the UK, France and Canada to preemptively
32:21
Speaker 3: recognize Palestine, being called out for rewarding terrorism and now
32:27
Speaker 3: saying that all of the media and these political opponents
32:30
Speaker 3: have fallen for Hamas propaganda. Tell us your take.
32:34
Speaker 14: On this, well, Hamas have welcomed the Prime Minister's decision
32:42
Speaker 14: and applauded it and congratulated him for it, and he
32:47
Speaker 14: has been roundly condemned by Israel for what he's done,
32:52
Speaker 14: including undermining the negotiations for a ceasefire, which Hamas just
32:58
Speaker 14: walked away from. So this is a huge change in
33:04
Speaker 14: Australia's historic position in foreign policy. We've gone from supporting
33:10
Speaker 14: a liberal democratic country under siege from a terrorist organization
33:16
Speaker 14: and opposing that terrorist organization to supporting the terrorist organization
33:22
Speaker 14: and opposing the liberal democratic state. This is an extraordinary
33:27
Speaker 14: thing for Australia to have done. I mean, I think
33:31
Speaker 14: in a way it is the worst foreign policy decision
33:35
Speaker 14: Australia has made since the Second World War, and one of.
33:39
Speaker 3: The doing and throwing over Hamas's statements because there was
33:42
Speaker 3: a statement posted subsequently that pointed out the HUMAS co
33:48
Speaker 3: founder Hassan Yusef is in prison and so he couldn't
33:51
Speaker 3: have put this statement out directly himself. Here is what
33:55
Speaker 3: the Prime Minister said about that today.
33:58
Speaker 6: Well, what I say is that they shouldn't repeat Hamas's
34:01
Speaker 6: propaganda because it is Hamas which will engage in propaganda
34:07
Speaker 6: because they are being isolated.
34:10
Speaker 3: Your thoughts on that response Alexander.
34:15
Speaker 14: So he now knows. Apparently he's just discovered that Hamas
34:22
Speaker 14: run a very strong propaganda campaign. I mean, the stories
34:27
Speaker 14: of children starving to death, and the photograph of a
34:31
Speaker 14: child who actually had cerebral palsy being shown as though
34:37
Speaker 14: the child was starving with a mother who didn't look
34:41
Speaker 14: to me as though she was starving. This is all
34:45
Speaker 14: Hamas propaganda, and the Prime Minister has fallen hook line
34:50
Speaker 14: and sinker Bahamas propaganda. He's propaganda against Israel, against the Jews,
34:58
Speaker 14: I mean. And it's not as though this is just
35:00
Speaker 14: happened recently. The Labor Party has fallen for this propaganda.
35:05
Speaker 14: You know, for the best part of the last two years,
35:09
Speaker 14: ever since the war started, they have been mouthing sympathy
35:15
Speaker 14: for the complaints coming from the Palestinian authority and from Hamas.
35:22
Speaker 14: They show very little support for Israel at all. It's
35:26
Speaker 14: just extraordinary, it is.
35:28
Speaker 3: It is. Indeed, we'll keep coming back to that issue.
35:30
Speaker 3: But I want to talk to you about the summit
35:33
Speaker 3: Friday in Alaska. That'll be Saturday morning Australian time. The
35:37
Speaker 3: US President Donald Trump head to head with the Russian
35:40
Speaker 3: President Vladimir putin Ukraine, is going to be the number
35:45
Speaker 3: one and perhaps the only item on the agenda. Here's
35:48
Speaker 3: what Donald Trump has said about the meeting.
35:51
Speaker 14: Well, We're going to have a meeting with Vladimir Putin,
35:53
Speaker 14: and at the end of that meeting, probably in the
35:55
Speaker 14: first two minutes, I'll know exactly whether or not ideal
35:58
Speaker 14: can be were because that's what they do.
36:01
Speaker 15: I make deals.
36:03
Speaker 3: He'll know pretty quickly, he reckons Alexander. Now, Donald Trump,
36:06
Speaker 3: as you, he's really talking up expectations. He's thinking he
36:09
Speaker 3: could at least get a cease fire immediately out of
36:12
Speaker 3: this summit. How realistic is.
36:14
Speaker 14: That, I don't know. It will depend, I think on
36:22
Speaker 14: the extent to which the Americans have privately been putting
36:28
Speaker 14: massive pressure on Putin and the Russians. As long as
36:33
Speaker 14: they are saying to the Russians, we will make sure
36:36
Speaker 14: you cannot win this war under any circumstances. So your
36:41
Speaker 14: best bet is a ceasefire and get enter into some
36:46
Speaker 14: peace talks land on land and land swaps, possibly with Zelenski.
36:54
Speaker 14: The other thing that the West, not just the Americans,
36:58
Speaker 14: but the Europeans should be saying to the Russians is
37:01
Speaker 14: we hold three hundred billion dollars worth of your reserves,
37:07
Speaker 14: and we will confiscate that three hundred billion dollars if
37:12
Speaker 14: you don't agree to a cease fire. So I think
37:14
Speaker 14: those two things telling the Russians they can't win. Threatening
37:20
Speaker 14: them with the confiscation, confiscation of their three hundred billion
37:24
Speaker 14: dollars worth of reserves which are predominantly, not exclusively in Europe,
37:30
Speaker 14: and of course the threat of additional sanctions, particularly on
37:34
Speaker 14: oil exports. That should work.
37:39
Speaker 3: But let's see now a lot of me is. Zelenski's
37:42
Speaker 3: not involved in this at the moment. He'll be meeting
37:44
Speaker 3: with Keir Starmer in London tonight. But Donald Trump says
37:48
Speaker 3: he won't get into a real estate trade with Putin
37:52
Speaker 3: that if they get a cease fire. When it comes
37:54
Speaker 3: to any landswaps, that will have to be negotiated between
37:57
Speaker 3: Putin and Zelenski, possibly at a three headed summit with
38:01
Speaker 3: Trump there as well, if they want him. But that
38:04
Speaker 3: leaves a critical question of the other factor is for Ukraine,
38:08
Speaker 3: whether they can get a security guarantee what the European
38:12
Speaker 3: nations and America would provide as a security guarantee. That
38:17
Speaker 3: shouldn't be a problem, should it.
38:21
Speaker 14: No, I don't think so, and I think Kas Starmer,
38:25
Speaker 14: perhaps Emmanuel Macron, Friedrich Mertz, the German Chancellor, would all
38:31
Speaker 14: be able to help to provide that security guarantee with
38:36
Speaker 14: the backup of the Americans. You know, Kas Starmer has
38:40
Speaker 14: talked about this for quite some months now. So I
38:44
Speaker 14: mean the question is what will the Russian response be
38:49
Speaker 14: to the security guarantee. Some people think that Putin could
38:53
Speaker 14: never live with it. But if Putin knows he can
38:57
Speaker 14: never win the war, and if he knows if he
39:00
Speaker 14: keeps going he's going to suffer more sanctions and lose
39:03
Speaker 14: his three hundred billion dollars worth of reserves, he might
39:07
Speaker 14: just be persuaded to agree to a ce SPA and
39:11
Speaker 14: then get into negotiations with Zelenski, possibly with Trump there
39:16
Speaker 14: or possibly without him over over territory.
39:22
Speaker 3: Let us hope. So we'll see what unfolds over the
39:24
Speaker 3: weekend our time. Thanks for joining us, Alexander, I appreciate it,
39:27
Speaker 3: Alexander down there live from Adelaide. We'll go to a
39:29
Speaker 3: break and we're going to wrap up the week then
39:32
Speaker 3: with Mark Nicholson and Johanna Sleek as ever, including a
39:35
Speaker 3: little bit of gene therapy on the back of Sydney Sweeney.
39:43
Speaker 3: Let's catch up with Mark Nicholson from step Mate Studios
39:46
Speaker 3: and Jhannah Sleek editorial cartoonis with The Australian to wrap
39:50
Speaker 3: up another shocking week in Australian and global affairs. I
39:53
Speaker 3: wish it wasn't so depressing, gentlemen. Thanks for joining us again.
39:56
Speaker 3: I've got to get your take first, johannahs from you.
40:00
Speaker 3: You got Anthony Alberisi today quoting Hamas propaganda in order
40:04
Speaker 3: to clear himself from bowing to Hamas propaganda.
40:10
Speaker 11: Yeah.
40:10
Speaker 7: I was listening to that live and I just could
40:14
Speaker 7: not believe what I was hearing off the back of
40:18
Speaker 7: a really big decision that they've made.
40:22
Speaker 15: Largely off the back of, you know, Hamas propaganda. And
40:27
Speaker 15: then all of a sudden, when it doesn't suit him,
40:29
Speaker 15: me saying, now you've got to watch out that Hamasa
40:31
Speaker 15: not to be trusted.
40:32
Speaker 3: Don't believe a word they say.
40:34
Speaker 7: I actually couldn't believe what I was hearing.
40:37
Speaker 3: Oh, it is just hilarious, Mark, but very very frightening
40:40
Speaker 3: at the same time.
40:43
Speaker 2: Well, look, the whole thing, the whole situation is frightening,
40:46
Speaker 2: and it's been frightening for a couple of years now,
40:49
Speaker 2: but that nothing makes me laugh more than Anthony ALBERSI
40:53
Speaker 2: so swiftly and confidently putting his foot in it. It's
40:57
Speaker 2: so good, like nothing makes me laugh more. And he's
40:59
Speaker 2: just you know, he put his finger in the air,
41:01
Speaker 2: and he thought, this will be the most popular thing
41:03
Speaker 2: I'll do. I'll be herald at a champion all around
41:06
Speaker 2: the world. Him and his staff and Penny Wong, they
41:08
Speaker 2: all thought this was great. They saw the bridge, they thought, yeah,
41:10
Speaker 2: this is where the sentiment is.
41:11
Speaker 3: Let's go out there, let's do it.
41:13
Speaker 2: And all it's done, which is actually a good thing
41:16
Speaker 2: as well, is it's firmed up everyone else to say, oh,
41:18
Speaker 2: if that's what he thinks, the opposite must be true.
41:21
Speaker 2: Like it, it's firmed up everyone else. The backlash is beautiful.
41:24
Speaker 2: It's actually kind of a it's kind of great what's happened.
41:28
Speaker 3: And today's the icing on the cake, right. I mean,
41:30
Speaker 3: he's trying to say in the media today that he's
41:34
Speaker 3: been vindicated, he's been cleared. He's saying, you've all fallen
41:38
Speaker 3: for hamas propaganda, and I quoted my source this latest
41:42
Speaker 3: piece of harmas propaganda. It is insane. And I'll tell
41:46
Speaker 3: you one, yo, Hannahs, you've sort of hit the bullseye
41:51
Speaker 3: with one aspect of this badness with one of your
41:53
Speaker 3: catsuns this week where you've got all the heavyweights, it's
41:55
Speaker 3: usually being Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and Benjamin in the
42:00
Speaker 3: gym working out and in walks outbow and the New
42:03
Speaker 3: Zealand PM step aside, ladies, the heavy hitters have arrived.
42:08
Speaker 3: They're going to sort all this out for the.
42:11
Speaker 2: Yeah.
42:11
Speaker 7: Well look, this one actually came out on the day
42:15
Speaker 7: that the decision was was announced, so I didn't actually
42:19
Speaker 7: know that that was coming quite so soon.
42:20
Speaker 3: Off very imprescient to me.
42:23
Speaker 7: Well, well, look, I mean it was after their little
42:25
Speaker 7: meeting of the great minds up there somewhere in the
42:28
Speaker 7: mountains on the South Island of New Zealand And and
42:31
Speaker 7: just the just the impertinence of the of the two
42:35
Speaker 7: of them sort of getting together, the two of the
42:37
Speaker 7: most irrelevant leaders on the planet working out how they're
42:42
Speaker 7: going to hector, you know, a country that's at war
42:46
Speaker 7: fighting for its survival. I just and they're just a
42:50
Speaker 7: pair of minnows really, And I thought, you know, that
42:53
Speaker 7: was that was that felt like the right way to
42:55
Speaker 7: kind of get that down on paper.
42:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was brilliant stuff. I want to go to
42:59
Speaker 3: an next week's economic roundtable. I want to use another
43:02
Speaker 3: one of your cartoons, Johannas, to get there, because one
43:05
Speaker 3: of the issues they're going to talk about is the
43:07
Speaker 3: effect of artificial intelligence on the economy and whether that's
43:11
Speaker 3: going to make things better or worse. And you've got
43:13
Speaker 3: this lovely Chatson his artificial intelligence really the answer they're
43:18
Speaker 3: asking Olbo, Jim Chalmers and Chris Bowen with these little
43:22
Speaker 3: renewable energy wind turbine on his hat. It works for us,
43:26
Speaker 3: They reckon. What do you make of that one? Mark Nicholson,
43:31
Speaker 3: I love it mate.
43:32
Speaker 2: In fact, yeah, the propeller hat on bow And it's
43:34
Speaker 2: one of those things where as a cartoonist myself, I
43:36
Speaker 2: get really jealous of those ones because that's just so
43:39
Speaker 2: simple and so brilliant. It gets me every time I've
43:41
Speaker 2: seeing a little propeller.
43:42
Speaker 3: Hat on Bowen.
43:43
Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm one of these people that's
43:45
Speaker 2: actually I'm so pro AI in this sense because I
43:49
Speaker 2: almost find source in the idea that these guys can
43:51
Speaker 2: lose their jobs potentially and we can just ship in
43:54
Speaker 2: some AI.
43:54
Speaker 3: Because I think AI would be.
43:56
Speaker 2: Artificial intelligence would be better than natural stupidity.
44:03
Speaker 3: I'd take any kind of intelligence out of this summit
44:06
Speaker 3: next week, and any.
44:07
Speaker 7: Intelligence, any intelligence, would be a start exactly.
44:12
Speaker 3: All right now talking about governments and bureaucracies and trying
44:16
Speaker 3: to make things work properly. There's a fantastic example of
44:20
Speaker 3: nanny state overreach out of the UK where their foreign secretary,
44:25
Speaker 3: effectively their foreign minister, David Lammy, he had Jade Evans,
44:30
Speaker 3: the American Vice President, visiting, and so he took him
44:32
Speaker 3: down to the local lake to see if they could
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Speaker 3: catch some trout. They failed as fishermen. They didn't catch
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Speaker 3: any fish. But he's had to now report himself to
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Speaker 3: the environmental authorities because mark he was fishing without the
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Speaker 3: appropriate license on his own property.
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Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous. That's the UK flawyer, and I think
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Speaker 2: it was almost more embarrassing as well as I think
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Speaker 2: Jade Vance said his kids a caught fish, that was
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Speaker 2: the thing. They all managed to catch a fish on
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Speaker 2: the day, so that's even more embarrasing for the big fellow.
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Speaker 3: It's a classic example, though Johannahs, of just these nanny
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Speaker 3: state rules. Yeah, the UK is probably worse than us,
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Speaker 3: but not much. We're just getting further and further down
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Speaker 3: that track. You can't do anything without a permit.
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Speaker 15: It's true.
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Speaker 7: It's true. You do need a license to fish here,
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Speaker 7: just quietly too. So we're not we're not a whole
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Speaker 7: lot better. But I mean, what I thought was hilarious
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Speaker 7: was they were fishing for carp and you've got to
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Speaker 7: be pretty desperate to be fishing for carp in the
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Speaker 7: first place, wouldn't you.
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Speaker 3: That's right. I called it trout. I think, yeah, they're
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Speaker 3: just can't They're just trying to get the vermin out
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Speaker 3: of the pond, and you've got to get it. You've
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Speaker 3: got to get a permit for that. I did, Actually
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Speaker 3: he had to get a license here. I took my
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Speaker 3: young fella to do the spot of fishing in Sydney
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Speaker 3: Harbor a couple of times, and then I found out
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Speaker 3: afterwards apparently you're supposed to get a license for that.
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Speaker 3: So there you go to probably won't do the show
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Speaker 3: next week. I'll be in the lock up. And I
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Speaker 3: don't think we caught anything, at least nothing legal at
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Speaker 3: the time. Let's let's go to the US and and
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Speaker 3: revisit this Sydney Sweeney has got great genes advertise advertising controversy,
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Speaker 3: because what I like about this now is it spawned
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Speaker 3: all sorts of other spinoffs and takeoffs as she's become
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Speaker 3: a bit of a cult hero for sensible people in
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Speaker 3: the United States because of all the ridiculous stuff that
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Speaker 3: was said about her campaign being racist or eugenics and
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Speaker 3: all the rest of it. So my favorite one, though,
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Speaker 3: is this one that involves, of course, the US President.
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Speaker 3: That's my swe Trump's got great gens mark. I can
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Speaker 3: imagine him turning up at this summit in a in
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Speaker 3: double denim.
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Speaker 7: May How good is he looking?
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Speaker 2: Big Trump actually did that, by the way, it would
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Speaker 2: blow up the internet. The lefties would not be able
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Speaker 2: to stop. I hope he's actually in negotiations with him
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Speaker 2: to try and get this done, because that is absolutely perfect.
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Speaker 2: But it does look like they've taken the measurements from
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Speaker 2: his medical report, because he's looking very slim in that
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Speaker 2: AO generation as well, he's looking very good.
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Speaker 3: I don't know whether American Eagle actually make his brand,
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Speaker 3: but they probably haven't outfit to fit the first lady.
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Speaker 3: Have a look, let's do it. Yeah, they should actually
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Speaker 3: make that a proper out, I reckon.
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Speaker 7: Well, well that's right. I mean, you see that and
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Speaker 7: you wouldn't You wouldn't blink, would you? You just think, oh, yeah, well,
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Speaker 7: there's a beautiful woman wearing, you know, in an ad
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Speaker 7: for jeans. I'm sure it's not the first time she's
47:51
Speaker 7: been paid to model a bit of denim in her time.
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Speaker 7: But you know, I think I'd really like to see
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Speaker 7: the Joe Biden version. I'm picturing us a full denhim
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Speaker 7: onesie with a bibonnet and maybe a little buttons around
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Speaker 7: around the.
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Speaker 16: Car and breaks overs half finish. I want to show
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Speaker 16: you one more.
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Speaker 3: And this is from Elon Musk and it's got these
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Speaker 3: people who got great gens, two great genes, Gene Hackman
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Speaker 3: and Gene Wilder. So that'll be's canceled now in Hollywood.
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Speaker 3: Great to talk to you guys. Catch up with you
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Speaker 3: next week, and and be careful in the meantime. I
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Speaker 3: just a bit of time to squeeze in some of
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Speaker 3: your messages. I want to keep showing these messages you're
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Speaker 3: A you about the Middle East, Dorothy says to the
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Speaker 3: Jewish people of Australia. Please believe that you have enormous
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Speaker 3: support from the majority of your fellow Australians. Never give up,
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Speaker 3: give up on achieving a very good outcome for all hostages.
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Speaker 3: Die says, I feel terrible our Jewish communities who must
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Speaker 3: have felt outraged after watching the PM's recognition press conference.
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Speaker 3: I hope they understand that the majority of Ozzies are
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Speaker 3: right behind them. Thanks very much for those messages. We
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