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Guest Hypnotist Graeme Wood - From DJ to Hypnotist and Corporate Wellness to Breathwork · The Hypnotist

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  Welcome to The Hypnotist, the show that gives you inside
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  access to cutting edge hypnosis with real clients facing
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  genuine. Issues.
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  Brought to you by The Hypnotherapist, demanded by
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  celebrities, CEOs and even royalty, Adam Cox.
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  These recordings took place live from Adam's clinic in London's
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  world famous Harley Street. So get yourself comfortable and
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  enjoy today's episode of The Hypnotist.
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  Hi, it's Adam here, and you're about to listen to a
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  conversation I had with hypnotherapist Graham Wood about
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  how he became a hypnotherapist and why he tended to specialize
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  in working with people that were business owners and how he
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  accidentally became a well-being therapist within corporate
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  structures. So I think you might find this
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  conversation really interesting. So find a nice, comfortable
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  place and relax. Hi, it's Adam here, and welcome
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  to the hypnotist. Only today I'm not your
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  hypnotist. We are joined by a very special
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  guest hypnotist, Graham Wood. Welcome to the show.
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  Hi Adam, thanks for having me on.
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  Great to have you here. Now I'm always curious, I've,
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  I've met you a couple of times at different conferences, mainly
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  the UK Hypnosis conference, but I'm always curious how people
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  got into the world that we call hypnosis.
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  So what's your story? Quite a long one.
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  How long have you got? So I started my own business in
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  1993. I was a DJ and an entertainer
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  and I came across hypnotists doing some corporate events
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  where they had the after dinner dances and during the courses
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  they had the entertainers in and it went from being the boardie
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  comedians to the women dressed in like metal metal bikinis and
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  angle grinders showering sparks everywhere.
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  Then this guy called Paul McKenna came on TV with the
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  hypnotic world of Paul McKenna and everyone wanted hypnotists.
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  So as I was doing the discos between the courses and the
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  cabaret shows, became hypnotists and I got friends with one of
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  them who was at quite a few events I got and I was really
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  interested in it. So he sort of took me under his
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  wing and took me backstage and showed me some of the bits and
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  pieces that they did and I sort of fell out of love with it
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  quite quickly because it's very much a lot of pre show work.
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  Anyone who who deals in magic mentalism know what I mean by
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  that? I was a keen amateur magician as
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  well and I thought it'd be the next step up.
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  So that fell by the by for a bit.
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  And then in 2007 I went to a magic shop in Kent called
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  Algazam and I was doing quite a lot of the mind reading
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  mentalism, that sort of stuff at the time.
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  And he said, oh, you're still interested in hypnosis.
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  And so he sold me a book called Reality is Plastic by Anthony
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  Jacquin, who anyone in this world knows and has probably got
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  the book and read the book. And it basically stripped
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  hypnosis bare and explained how it worked in easier, easy to
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  understand language, practical demonstrations.
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  There was a DVD with it that showed you how to do it.
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  And I was at hypnosis meet, sorry at Magicians meet up one
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  night and someone said, well, how are you getting all that
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  hypnosis? And I'm like, well, I've read
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  the book, haven't done any yet. So we were out in the bar in
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  Covent Garden that night and doing some magic and he said go
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  on, do some of your hypnosis. So I was like better have
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  another beer first, get a bit of Dutch courage.
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  And I did it. And I don't know who was more
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  shocked, me or the person I was talking to when they hadn't
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  stuck to the table, when they couldn't remember their name.
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  And I was just like wow, this is amazing.
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  So I devoured as much information on the hypnosis for
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  entertainment as I could, started putting some shows on,
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  did some stage shows and ended up doing corporate work.
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  So I was doing big events, hundred 150 people, which I
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  absolutely loved doing. And at the end of one of the
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  events manager had to come up with that was really good.
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  Do you do Wellness days and being a good self-employed
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  person, I am, I'm going. Yeah, of course I am.
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  So he promptly booked me in for 6:00.
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  So I came back home, got onto Google.
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  What's a Wellness day? No idea.
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  Found out what they entailed and to my delight a lot of it was
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  around breath work. And I loved breath work.
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  I'd used breath work quite a lot before, just as a coping
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  mechanism for performance nerves, performance anxiety,
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  before I went on stage and I did quite a few of these.
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  I was doing, doing, doing a lot. 1 led to another led to another
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  and then someone said can you help me with my son?
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  He's got a real issue. I was like, oh, what's that?
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  Then little bit nervous 'cause I hadn't done 1 to 1.
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  And he said well he's got his own business.
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  He's about 3-4 years in and he is really struggling and I
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  thought I recognise that story from myself.
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  So I said yeah, 'cause I'll talk to him.
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  That's about as much as I could offer.
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  And talking to him, he was basically telling me my life
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  story of everything was building up, things were getting hard and
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  more stressful. He got through the first year,
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  which was great, purely on adrenaline.
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  And then as the business grows, what no one tells you when you
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  start a business is the more your business grows, the more
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  your problems grow, the more your stresses grow, the more
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  your anxieties grow. And he was telling me this story
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  while we was sitting talking. And all of a sudden I just saw
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  me sitting in the chair and had this big flashback of something
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  that I don't remember happening. And afterwards I had to phone
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  the person who came up in my memories just to say this is
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  real. And what happened is we'd had
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  the Millennium. I was in the events
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  entertainment business. It was brilliant, Such a good
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  year. Money was coming in.
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  And so I reinvested it into business.
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  I grew it. I moved into some other areas
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  and what I didn't realise that in doing that I'd neglected the
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  rest of my life. I had a missus at home and I
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  hardly saw her. She had kids from a previous
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  relationship. I was step dad to them
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  basically. I hardly saw them.
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  I hardly saw anything outside my life doing this business.
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  I was all over the country doing loads of stuff and I went round
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  to my friend's house one day to pick some stuff up and I saw my
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  car. I saw saw her car in the drive.
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  She's like, oh, that's interesting.
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  So I've sat and I've waited and she's come out dressed to the
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  nines looking absolutely glamorous.
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  And oh, I wonder what she was doing there.
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  So when I got home later that night, I said, all right, how
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  are you? You had a good day.
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  Oh, the problems are like sob story.
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  I was like, oh really? I said, what do you mean?
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  I said you weren't, were you? You were around such and such
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  his house. What's going on?
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  And she said well you're never here, I've got to get my
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  attention from somewhere, blah blah blah.
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  Big explosion, bang, 8 year relationship over in a moment.
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  And this was coming up to Christmas.
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  I was still really busy with work and then I was going to an
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  event up in Manchester. Not in the right mind,
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  everything going wrong in my head.
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  And I've gone into a service station, filled up with diesel,
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  come back out, no van. And I was like, Oh my gosh, that
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  called, called the police straight away.
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  They've checked the CCTV, what I've done.
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  I've got out the van, but I'd left the keys in the ignition.
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  Some chances just looking. Oh, that's handy.
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  We'll have a van. And I lost between then and
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  Christmas, I lost nearly £100,000 worth of kit and work.
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  So I was in a hole. I was in a real big hole and my
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  escape was temping bowling. Used to go bowling 2-3 times a
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  week, bowled in a couple of leagues.
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  And everyone there knew something was up.
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  They knew I wasn't right. They knew I wasn't well.
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  And of course, oh, you're right, you're right.
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  And of course, when, when someone's in street, yeah, all
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  right, they'll say, yeah, I'm all right, yeah, I'm all right.
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  And I was sitting in a cafe just having a used to be called a
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  bowl of banger and chips. Anyone went to the airport
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  bowled? Well, no, it was just a monkey
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  hot dog with some chips. And one of my friends sat down.
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  She just sat down next to me, and she said, come on, Woody,
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  what's up? And because she hadn't asked me
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  if I was all right, she knew something was wrong.
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  It just bypassed that. So my little conscious block, my
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  barricade, and I just burst into tears.
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  Now, I don't remember any of this.
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  I don't remember the incident happening.
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  It was only 13 years later, talking to this young lad that
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  it all came back in mind. I was like whoa, this is where I
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  need to be. I need to be helping people like
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  this because I don't remember how bad I got my defence
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  mechanism kicked in, got me through it.
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  And talking to some other friends afterwards, they were
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  like, Oh yeah, you weren't right for about 6 months, but no one
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  wants to say anything. I had that reputation of, oh,
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  that's Graham. He can do everything.
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  He does everything. He's he runs his own businesses,
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  etcetera. He, he copes with everything.
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  And that's because I did have to cope with anything.
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  I didn't have that out there. So from then on I really focused
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  doing these corporate events. Still, I was asking does anyone
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  in higher management, anyone in the upper end need help?
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  HR is that is there for all the, sorry, all the people in the
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  offices, they're there for everyone, but not the top, top
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  people don't have anywhere to turn.
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  So I started doing sessions with them and I started to train in
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  hypnotherapy. But all the training I was doing
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  at the time, I mean I spent several £1000 on courses.
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  So like one year, 2 year long courses, I was going to two or
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  three and then just going, this isn't me.
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  I it's like I'm picking up a book.
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  You're telling me your problem and I'm picking up a book.
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  How to deal with it If it was that, if that was the right
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  approach, there would be no hypnotherapies.
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  People would just go out and buy these books.
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  But it wasn't personal. So again, YouTube being my
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  friend, searched through YouTube and I found quite a few people
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  on there doing things slightly differently.
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  But the main one was Carl Smith and he just had this approach of
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  I don't need to know what's wrong because if you knew what
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  was wrong, I'm paraphrasing here, This is my my version
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  right now. If you knew what was wrong with
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  you, you wouldn't be sitting in front of me.
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  Now you're, you're clever, you've got yourself to wear your
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  eye knife. You would be able to resolve the
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  problem. So if you can't resolve a
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  problem, it's because you don't know consciously the answer.
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  So I started using his approach of I don't care.
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  I just know it's in there somewhere.
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  And I, I, I now teach his method because I love it that much.
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  I've changed it a bit to suit my personality, but I just, when
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  you're there, well, I'm going to start just peeling off the
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  layers of the onion. We're going to let all that shit
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  out. We're going to get to that bit
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  in the middle. And is that the kinetic shift
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  which cause? Protocol, yeah.
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  And there's a bit in it called emotional detox, which was the
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  bit that I used because that really resonated.
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  It was just let anything come up.
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  Just let anything you've got come up and let it go.
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  His his kind of pressure valve metaphor for the emotional
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  detox, I think is. It's, it's not great.
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  I used the peeling back of an onion.
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  I changed to that because I did find a few times people not on
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  that sofa, but on the sofa I had at the time were getting a
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  little bit resistant. They could feel, feel it coming
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  up. Well, I don't want to cry.
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  I don't want to cry. I don't want to cry.
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  But using that onion, saying, you know how that makes you cry
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  when you peel the onion off, when you cut into the onion, it
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  just gave that subtle little dig to say it's OK to cry.
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  I knew from that memory and from what my friend told me.
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  I was crying for two hours. And you needed to.
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  It was the release well. That shit came out.
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  So that's where I thought this is where I need to go.
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  This is what I want to do. And obviously going from the
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  working with the entrepreneurs, which I still do and I'm still
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  looking for entrepreneurs. I know how hard it is just to be
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  that. I'm not going to tell you what
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  to do because you know your business better than me.
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  I can't advise you on your business, but what I can do is I
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  can be that person that you need to let that shit go.
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  And because I don't know you, because not friends, I'm going
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  to sound a bit harsh here, but I'm not going to get emotionally
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  involved because I'm not taking your baggage, John.
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  You can cry your eyes out. I do feel a bit of empathy, but
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  I don't ever get bogged down by what other people are going.
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  Through no, I, I think it's very, because, you know, being
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  in the world of hypnotherapy, a lot of hypnotherapists are
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  empaths and they want to know the stories and they want to get
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  involved. I think I'm more like you.
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  I'm, I'm more kind of disassociated and I see myself
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  as the problem solver, as the, as the detective.
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  I don't need to kind of get emotionally involved, which is,
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  which is really, really important.
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  And I imagine that you helping other business leaders and
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  entrepreneurs, it helped that you'd been running your business
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  from a young age. It did.
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  It did because when I took it on, I had no idea what I was
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  getting involved with. I used to be a computer engineer
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  and I was a very computer engineer.
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  I was pretty well paid for someone who was 1920 and then
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  the whole I blame IBM. They came out with this new
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  model of computer that the PS2, if anyone remembers it, you
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  might have had a 10 megabyte hard drive if you really pushed
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  the boat out. But I went from taking out
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  boards, finding out what chip was faulty and doing repairs at
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  that level to, Oh yeah, that one's thrown away, we'll throw
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  another one in. And we called them board swap
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  monkeys because that's where that's all we became.
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  So the company decided there was quite a few of us far too well
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  paid for what we've been helping done.
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  And we were let go and I couldn't find another job.
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  I was all, I've been a DJ for a long time, just as a hobby.
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  So I took that into full time. That grew into needing to put
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  four or five discos out in a night.
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  So I just bought more gear and put other people out to owning a
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  opening a shop to sell the equipment, to hire the
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  equipment. And that's noble ground to now
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  I'm doing full blown events, event management, event
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  planning, all the paperwork, all that side of things.
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  So that's just grown organically.
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  It's obviously taken up a lot of time.
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  My deejang is stepping back because I don't enjoy that so
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  much that this hypnotherapy is a new lease of life for what I
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  want to do. And since lockdown, that started
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  to snowball because more and more people need us.
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  And I realized quite early on, certainly in the training, that
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  I was doing virtually every bit, every induction I've taken a
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  deep breath. And when you're ready, just
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  bring it out. And I'm like, this is breath
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  work, and I've been interested in breath work for a long time.
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  So I started to incorporate the breath work and my knowledge of
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  how breathing affects your body. So if I want you to calm down,
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  instead of saying look, just calm down, just relax.
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  I just tell you how to breathe. Knowing that in a few minutes
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  time, your body would respond automatically, a bit like a
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  magician doing a trick on one ahead, pick a card, any card,
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  you take it in a moment. I'll tell you what it is.
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  I already know what it is to you.
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  You didn't have that choice. It's the, it's the one move
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  ahead and you kind of know and, and I think a lot of
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  hypnotherapists, I think they underestimate the importance of
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  breath, even though you're right, most sessions start with
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  take a deep breath in. The profound thing with me and I
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  actually stumbled across because my journey into hypnosis was
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  originally through NLP and then through NLP I started seeing
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  some of Tony Robbins early work and I think his early work
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  Unlimited Power, that kind of stuff was quite good.
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  And there was this element of breathing ratios.
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  And at the time I, I had a hyper vigilant, really kind of
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  overactive nervous system and just breathing in the ratios of
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  breathing in, hold the breath, retain it and then outward.
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  It completely transformed my emotional state rapidly.
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  And, and now people know a lot more about breath work from the
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  likes of Wim Hof and, and, and it's, it's become much more kind
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  of popular, but there was a time where it's kind of intuitive,
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  but most people didn't know the power of how breathing can
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  really kind of regulate your nervous system.
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  Well, the one example I've got of that is your mum always used
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  to tell you after you had a meal, I was just sit down for 10
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  minutes and relax before you go out and play.
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  That's because breathing the right way activates the
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  digestive system and they didn't know that, but they just knew
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  how many times you run at school when you're a bit panicky.
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  Oh, just taking it, breathing deeply through your through your
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  nose, not your mouth. Just breathe it when you're out
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  of breath to try and calm your body down.
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  They're telling you that, but they don't actually know why.
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  We just say intrinsically know it.
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  Yeah. So I, I studied quite a bit of
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  it and I was, I was bringing it in and I was talking to it was,
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  it was strange. So I was talking to some of the
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  breathwork instructors. I was, and people were like
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  working. Oh, no, no, no, you can't use
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  this in hypnotherapy. This is breathwork.
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  Like it's all yogic, it's all Mystic.
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  It's all list that and the other.
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  And then I was talking to some of the hypnotherapy trainers.
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  Oh no, no, no, it's not hypnosis.
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  And I'm like but the two marry. They have endogram.
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  They overlap massively. When I did the UK Hypnosis
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  convention in 2020, whatever it was, when I did my first breath
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  work for therapists presentation, I was in one of
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  the smaller rooms which normally there's 20-30 people in.
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  And when I walked in, it was standing room only and I've just
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  gone. I forgot my name, I forgot
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  everything, right? It was just like I'd walked in
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  and I was like, Oh my God, all the big names, all the people
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  that I looked up to in Hidden Therapy World were there to
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  listen to me a little bit. And the take away after that
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  that people came up with, I didn't realise.
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  I mean, I did a little session at the end.
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  I know it's the perfect audience because everyone's been in and
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  out of hypnosis all weekend and you can just hypnotize in order
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  to go and sleep and they would. But the fact that I did a
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  technique that I used in an induction and people were
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  sliding down the walls at the back.
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  Like. Lyrics, but I knew so much about
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  breath work and breathing that hadn't transported itself
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  across. I was like, this is where I'm
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  going for the next couple of years.
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  Teach the therapist the breath work because it's something I
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  teach every client when they're here.
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  I can only help them while they're here.
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  But when they leave, hopefully I've just prepared them for the
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  next shitstorm coming down the road.
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  So and. What?
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  What's the big distinction, Graham, Because for me, I've not
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  studied breath work a lot, but, but my basic understanding of
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  what I know is that your sympathetic nervous system,
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  you're more likely to kind of shallow breathe from the chest
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  and the parasympathetic nervous system much more likely long
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  deep breaths from the, from the diaphragm.
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  In in all the studying that you've done of breath work,
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  what, what is the most profound kind of element that for someone
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  that can immediately kind of help them to kind of get in a
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  better state, what kind of stuff can they do?
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  It's a diaphragmatic breathing, so it's the breathing into the
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  belly, but it's not deep breaths.
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  It's just long controlled breaths.
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  And if you breathe in when you breathe out, just make sure you
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  breathe out for longer than you breathe in.
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  Yeah. Because that drops the body into
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  a relaxed state. And please, breathe through your
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  nose. Don't breathe through your mouth
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  because breathing through your nose activates the nose is an
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  organ. It's designed for breathing.
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  It's more than just sitting your glasses on your mouth's for
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  eating. So unless you can start shoving
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  food up your mouth, nose, don't stop putting air in your mouth.
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  Just breathe through your nose. That starts to send signals,
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  neurotransmitters around your body.
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  Do your breathing and you can calm, you can relax.
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  And I mean, if you noted, professional sports people,
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  runners, long distance runners, they're all breathing through
• 22:16
  their nose because you breathe less, because you need less,
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  because also breathing through your nose, it warms the air.
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  It it just gets it to the right temperature, the right humidity
• 22:30
  for it then to transfer through the lungs.
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  So you're using all the oxygen properly when you're breathing
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  through your mouth. You're not.
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  You're wasting a lot. Yeah.
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  Realise how little you breathe, how little you need to breathe.
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  And that does just relax you. And that's the thing.
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  And when you train the diaphragm, you can actually you,
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  you require less effort. You see people that are kind of
• 22:54
  chest breathers because the whole, the shoulders go up each
• 22:57
  time they breathe. And the diaphragm, it's kind of
• 22:59
  like you're, there's very little movement and it, and it's almost
• 23:03
  kind of like you can create the vacuum just by your diaphragm
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  moving. It's very, very efficient.
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  And you're right, great, great for calming.
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  Would you be able to give us a, it's a breath work example, so
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  anyone listening right now, they could immediately do something
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  to kind of access that. Study, I mean one that is, it's
• 23:21
  called the 711 breath. It's used for panic attacks.
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  I've slightly adjusted it for hypnotherapy, hypnosis purposes.
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  If you just breathe, if you put your hand on your chest and your
• 23:32
  hand on your stomach and just breathe normally, just breathe
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  as you would now, one of three things is going to happen.
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  Either your hand on your chest is going to move up and down,
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  your hand on your belly is going to move up and down, or they're
• 23:45
  both moving up and down. Now, if none of those is
• 23:48
  happening, you're dead. But what you want is for the
• 23:52
  hand on the chest to stay still and the hand on your belly just
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  to move up and down slowly as you breathe in and out.
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  So breathe through your chest, not with your chest into your
• 24:02
  belly. And if you just breathe like
• 24:05
  that for a little bit through your nose and breathe in for six
• 24:08
  seconds and just breathe out for six seconds, no gap, no holding,
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  just breathe in for six seconds, breathe out for six seconds.
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  And you will notice in a very short while you just start to
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  feel calmer. Now, if you're having a bit of a
• 24:28
  panic attack or you want to cut, you want to force that calmness,
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  we can breathe into the chest as well.
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  But I want to breathe into your belly for the count of three,
• 24:37
  your chest for the count of three, and then take that little
• 24:39
  sip of air to fill the top up. Then just breathe out for
• 24:43
  109876543210. Breathe into your belly 2-3,
• 24:53
  chest 2/3 fit behind your nose, then just out for 109876543210.
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  Just notice how you feel. Just notice how you feel.
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  Now when I'm with the client I'll do the third one and I
• 25:17
  cheat a little bit because I've got 10987654321 and 0.
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  Now allow your eyes to close and feel that hypnosis coming
• 25:28
  through your body because you feel a physiological effect.
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  Yeah. You're probably feeling now
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  after just two. Yeah, it is amazing because
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  there's certain things that humans need, like we need, we
• 25:41
  need sleep. You know, you can you can live,
• 25:43
  you know, a maximum of a week to 10 days without sleep.
• 25:46
  You need food. You can, you know, have a few
• 25:48
  days without that, you know, and water maybe a day or two.
• 25:52
  But breath, we're talking minutes.
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  Like it's the most important kind of resource that a human
• 25:57
  can have. And you're right, most people
• 25:59
  have never really learned how to breathe properly and or change
• 26:03
  how they breathe with intention. Is it's, It seems so obvious,
• 26:07
  but you know, it's such a powerful thing.
• 26:09
  Well, I think there's a lot of things within the therapy world
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  this, the psychosomatic touching techniques, tapping, things like
• 26:19
  that, the Havening technique or the psychosomatic touch.
• 26:23
  You watch a mother with a baby and they'll sit there and
• 26:26
  they'll just be stroking them. And if you just stroke your skin
• 26:30
  anywhere at a rate of about 3 centimetres or an inch a second,
• 26:37
  you'll suddenly start to feel yourself calm down because
• 26:40
  you're activating reactors, neurons, everything within your
• 26:43
  body that's just giving you that sense of calm.
• 26:46
  Yeah. And it's taken neuroscience
• 26:47
  years and years and years to find out what humans have been
• 26:50
  doing since the beginning of time.
• 26:52
  Yeah. And that's what I love about the
• 26:55
  hypnotherapy is I don't understand it.
• 26:59
  I don't understand it, but I know it works and we work with
• 27:04
  metaphors a lot of the time. We're very metaphorical people.
• 27:07
  So if I can explain it to you in a way you understand, it's going
• 27:10
  to work. We love to understand things and
• 27:15
  we love to have control. So if I can then give you
• 27:17
  something to take away, if you feel that anxiety coming up,
• 27:23
  just do this and you start to become aware because I mean,
• 27:28
  particularly anxiety, and I know you deal with it.
• 27:30
  That's probably the number one thing we deal with in people is
• 27:35
  recognising it. We don't tend to notice it until
• 27:39
  we're right in it. But if you can recognise that
• 27:43
  feeling building, just breathe it out.
• 27:48
  And if you use a breath that is going to calm you.
• 27:51
  And you say about the parasympathetic sympathetic.
• 27:54
  So we when we're really, we're breathing here because that's
• 27:57
  activating our fight or flight. Now that's good if we need to
• 28:01
  activate our fight or flight, but it's not good if we need to
• 28:04
  calm down. So just.
• 28:07
  Thinking of a metaphor that popped into my head, it's it's
• 28:09
  kind of like a hybrid car that can have electricity or or or or
• 28:15
  kind of petrol. Yeah.
• 28:17
  It's got two sources and and effectively you could say right
• 28:21
  for alertness and vigilance. The shallow chest breathing kind
• 28:25
  of makes sense because you can kind of breathe more rapidly,
• 28:28
  but for what they would. Call the rest and digest and.
• 28:32
  And the calming side, the diaphragmatic breath is there
• 28:35
  and, and, and I've seen that for people that haven't been used to
• 28:38
  breathing from the diaphragm, it's a tricky thing to do.
• 28:41
  It is the muscle. The muscle isn't used to kind of
• 28:43
  breathing in that way. So the way I'm trying to imagine
• 28:46
  it is you have the diaphragm, just imagine a bit of string at
• 28:49
  the bottom of it. Just imagine pulling that bit of
• 28:52
  string to pull the diaphragm down, and then when you breathe
• 28:55
  out, just release it to allow the air to come back.
• 28:58
  Don't actually breathe out. Don't use your muscles to
• 29:01
  breathe out. Just relax to allow that
• 29:03
  diaphragm to come back up and I'm holding it in the wrong
• 29:06
  place. But and just imagine any
• 29:07
  breathing, just put in a bit of string that's pulling that down.
• 29:11
  That's interesting. That's a good metaphor.
• 29:13
  I I use a slightly different approach, and that is that I
• 29:15
  know if I tell them to breathe from the diaphragm, it doesn't
• 29:18
  make sense. Instead, I tell them to breathe
• 29:20
  out and then continue breathing out.
• 29:22
  So they create a vacuum and then when they breathe in, they have
• 29:24
  to breathe in from the diaphragm because there's nothing, there's
• 29:27
  nothing left in the lungs. So it's kind of like, and then
• 29:29
  it's like, now notice where you breath, you know, you breathe
• 29:31
  from, It's like, oh, it's down there.
• 29:33
  And now they, they found it. But it's that's.
• 29:35
  Because that that brings the mindfulness into it.
• 29:37
  Yeah, because. Because we breathe all the time.
• 29:40
  We breathe when we're asleep. We're kind of addicted to
• 29:41
  breathing. It's something we do without
• 29:43
  thinking. So when you put your mind to
• 29:46
  something. So if I said to you now just
• 29:49
  just notice the feeling of your feet on the floor, it's not
• 29:53
  something you'd have been aware of, but you'd point your
• 29:54
  direction to it and it it brings that awareness in.
• 29:58
  And that's so important in in self help for people to be aware
• 30:03
  of what's happening to them. Because a lot of the time
• 30:06
  they're lost in their thoughts, you know, a lot of anxieties in
• 30:09
  the future, a lot of regret and resentments in the past.
• 30:11
  So like just just being in the present so.
• 30:13
  Just be in the now. Anxiety is just a fear of what
• 30:17
  what hasn't happened. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:20
  And it's it's structurally very, very similar to kind of
• 30:22
  excitement. It's kind of what if something
• 30:26
  bad happened is anxiety? What if something good happens
• 30:29
  is excitement? Neither have happened yet, but
• 30:32
  they're they're kind of future pacing.
• 30:34
  And that's an example of how people are doing hypnosis to
• 30:36
  themselves. A lot of the time in my
• 30:38
  perception, anxiety is self hypnosis where your future
• 30:42
  pacing an undesirable outcome. It's it's, it's it's they're
• 30:45
  doing hypnosis to. Themselves.
• 30:46
  I mean, there is someone, I mean we mentioned his name earlier on
• 30:49
  Anthony Jackwin, who said all hypnosis is self hypnosis.
• 30:52
  There's a lot, a lot of truth to that.
• 30:54
  And it's interesting you you mentioned reality is plastic
• 30:56
  because the, the very podcast that we're on now, there's a
• 30:59
  couple of sentences he has in reality in plastic where he
• 31:01
  talks about that. If you're going to be a
• 31:03
  hypnotist, you have to be the hypnotist.
• 31:06
  And and I and I totally stole that from him.
• 31:08
  That's and I've told him that one.
• 31:10
  It was an interesting. Title of chapter 2.
• 31:13
  Be the hypnotist. Be the hypnotist exactly that,
• 31:17
  Graham, it's great to have you on the show.
• 31:18
  You're, I, I, I know you mentioned you were going to be
• 31:21
  attending the Irish Hypnotherapy Conference and I, I believe
• 31:24
  you're going to be presenting at the UK hypnosis.
• 31:26
  But if, if people want to kind of learn more about you, is
• 31:28
  there a website, is there any social media?
• 31:30
  Is there any places that they can kind of find you?
• 31:33
  Rapidchangehypnosis.co.uk head there in a couple of weeks, it's
• 31:37
  been rewritten. It'll be a lot better.
• 31:38
  But yeah, it's a rapid change hypnosis.co.uk Rapid change
• 31:42
  hypnosis on Facebook at Rapid change hypnosis on YouTube or
• 31:48
  rapid change hypnosis on LinkedIn.
• 31:49
  And one kind of thing before you go, because you you have got a
• 31:52
  podcast and I'll put a link to that podcast.
• 31:54
  Tell us about the podcast and and the kind of people you have
• 31:57
  on your podcast. So the podcast is called Beyond
• 31:59
  a Couch and I'm talking to other, not just hypnotherapists.
• 32:04
  I've had conversations with some psychotherapists, with energy
• 32:09
  healers, recce workers, the woo woo stuff as I call it.
• 32:15
  The idea is we're talking about certain subjects on each one.
• 32:19
  So there's a podcast with ADHD. There's a very, very good one,
• 32:22
  Howard Cooper on anxiety, been chatting with Bob Burns about
• 32:26
  the Swan. So it's all different aspects of
• 32:28
  hypnotherapy and how it can help you because I firmly believe
• 32:32
  that hypnotherapy can help everyone.
• 32:35
  However, I'm also totally aware that there are people who are
• 32:39
  resistant or a little bit worried or dubious or sceptical
• 32:45
  about hypnosis hypnotherapy. So there's other alternative
• 32:49
  forms on there from the mainstream psychotherapists or
• 32:54
  psychologists to oh, I like the idea of burning wood and the
• 33:01
  imaginary waves and this that and that, the energies.
• 33:04
  So there could be something for everyone on there, but it gives
• 33:06
  a good insight into the actual topics as well because those
• 33:11
  that I'm talking to have had real life experience of dealing
• 33:15
  with those issues as well or using certain protocols.
• 33:21
  And so they can go quite in depth with them.
• 33:23
  So it's called Beyond the Couch. It's on YouTube soon to go onto
• 33:28
  other platforms as well, but I'm just getting all out on YouTube
• 33:30
  first. So find out Beyond the Couch and
• 33:33
  don't forget to subscribe to the channel as well.
• 33:36
  Absolutely. We'll put the links in the in
• 33:38
  the show notes. And if you want to hear more of
• 33:40
  Graham, check out his website, check out the podcast.
• 33:42
  Graham, it's been an absolute pleasure to have you on the
• 33:44
  Hypnotist today. Thank.
• 33:46
  You very much for your time. Thank you so much for joining me
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