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Live with @Lucifer-LeGivorden & Brett Keane: Round Table discussion: The Age of Satan Begins · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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  Hey there folks. This is Lucifer Lego Borden.
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  Welcome to tonight's show. We still have some guests that
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  are coming in. So here in just a minute.
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  I will be introducing everybody. As they come in, um tonight
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  shows gonna be very interesting. We have a lot of ground to cover
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  in tonight's show. Thank you all for joining us and
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  as you come in, Please feel free to comment and let us know
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  things. If you want to be on the show
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  and you are an STS clergy member or whatnot you can go in into
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  our backend systems. I have posted the invite link
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  and of course you can jump on board then.
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  Until then, you know, just let us know we can see your
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  comments. And yeah, so Tonight Show.
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  spawns from of course recent ongoing Events of where we have
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  been showing everybody that Anton LaVey was not actually an
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  atheist and tonight's events. We are going to be taking that a
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  step further now. It's going to be a bit of a long
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  show and I hope everybody has fun.
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  We hope that we're going to be having fun.
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  I want to gonna go ahead and introduce our first two guests
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  speakers who are with us currently and then we will get
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  moving into things. So.
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  As everybody knows Brett Keane is with us again.
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  Say hello Brett. Think I'm doing some processing
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  right now. I'm almost done.
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  But hello, everyone. All right, and we have a Daniel
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  with us who is on the Brett King show with an STS member the
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  other day. Hello, Daniel.
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  Hey, how's it going? How is it going?
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  It's great to be on the show. What do you like to go by by the
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  way, Lou or leg of order? I usually go yeah Lego Gordon or
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  if you have trouble pronouncing it.
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  You can just call me leggy or Lucifer or whatever leggy
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  probably that's all right. All right.
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  Apparently Grand our con black power.
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  He is listening but he is not at home.
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  So he's having trouble jumping into the show what not.
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  So he's the grand archon what not I so we will continue on and
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  if he has anything to say. We have multiple Grotto Masters
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  coming into the comments section now.
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  So yeah, that's pretty cool. All right, so Tonight Show, we
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  will be continuing on with the ongoing discussion.
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  Of Anton LaVey not being an atheist.
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  I know we Brett and I have been presenting this quite a bit
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  Daniel. How does it make you feel when
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  you hear Anton LaVey? Um literally say something, like
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  certainly you're right. The concept of God has given the
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  world much beautiful music many beautiful works of art and
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  certainly I feel God exists. But the name for God of course
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  is different from many different people.
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  How does that make you feel? Well, I had to turn the sound
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  off or turn the sound on in order to hear all of it.
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  So I missed the first about five seconds because I thought maybe
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  it was you that need to unmute it.
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  What did he initially say? Well, let me go ahead and Replay
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  that for you. It's only 18 seconds long.
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  Well, certainly you're right. The the concept of God has given
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  the world much beautiful music many beautiful works of art and
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  certainly I feel God exists. But the name for God of course
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  is different from many different people.
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  Interesting. Well, I have a feeling that the
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  name that he would give for God would be Lucifer or Satan not
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  Yahweh. Not the god of Christianity.
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  But these are actually have a very different name for the
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  Christian God and that would be yelled the bay off.
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  Okay, but that's not the god. He's talking about right?
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  Actually, he's talking about God God, you know the Christian God.
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  Yeah. Okay.
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  Yeah. Yeah Daniel.
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  He actually says in some of this clips that judeo God so he's
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  he's definitely out of the Bible.
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  Yeah. Yeah, definitely and I'll be
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  showing a little bit later on. clips from various of his some
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  of his various books and we will be going into a very unique
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  trick that people can use PDF files with to prove our points
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  and we're also going to be showing a little something
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  different but one of the things that I'll show while we're doing
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  that is that at the beginning of the chapter in the Satanic Bible
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  wanted God dead or alive. He literally says and I quote it
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  is a common misconception that satanists do not believe in God.
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  Um, that's literally in the Satanic Bible and it's something
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  that a lot of church sataners tried to gloss over and they try
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  to Satan explain a lot of different things.
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  So we're gonna be we're gonna be doing a few things.
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  In that now before we get going any further, you haven't been on
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  our show before so some of our people don't know too much about
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  you. They saw how you kind of went to
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  work on black metal or the other day and That's about their only
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  interaction with you. Could you go ahead and give us
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  an introduction about yourself and tell us a little bit about
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  yourself. sure, man, so obviously, my name is Daniel.
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  I was an atheist until I was about 28 29, very passionate
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  atheists, especially and Jerry Christian now.
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  Well, Daniel, your audio went out that atheist really had
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  nothing morally to offer and I started to understand that if we
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  eroded our Christian values from society, we'd probably be in a
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  very bad place. I still think that we're
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  probably about five to ten years away from the normalization of
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  well, maybe I shouldn't say the name of it because we're on
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  YouTube or whatnot, but the normalization of you know, I
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  don't censor people here, and I personally I'm not monetized on
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  YouTube. So there's really not much that
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  they could do to hurt me there. You know, I don't I don't like
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  to censor people. So if you if you want to go
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  ahead And say something you're more than for each set really
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  quickly before you continue came Blackfire has joined us.
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  How you doing? Okay.
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  Doing pretty good. I'm home now.
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  Okay, but that's good. So, it's great.
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  Have you Daniel's just in himself?
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  So we will be getting going on things here in just a minute
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  there, but Yeah, it sounds like you were about to mention Daniel
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  the normalization of pedophilia in society.
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  Yes. I think that we're pretty close
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  to that. Well their private ten years
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  from it, but they're definitely trying to do that.
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  And you know, that's something that a lot of People mistake
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  satanists for wanting I mean actual real Satanist.
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  I'm not talking TST. Hey Sarah, I'm not talking about
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  TST or anything like that. I'm talking like real satanists.
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  We find that reprehensible part of the part of our laws and
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  dictates is that you are not harm a child at all.
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  And we understand that morality can be a vastly different thing
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  for many different people. And that's one of the reasons
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  why we flat out say in our legs tanicus that morality is a lie.
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  It's not that's we're saying that it is wrong.
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  We're not saying that it doesn't it's just it's It's a lie in the
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  way that most people understand it.
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  Go ahead King. Oh, I I don't have nothing to
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  say. I'm just listening at the moment
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  until I'm ready to rip in Okay, good.
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  Can I just finish real quick? Go ahead.
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  So yeah, when I got to the age of about 28 or 29, I realized
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  that atheism really leads to absurdity and contradiction.
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  It can't count for obvious things like objective morality.
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  Even though some atheists do say it.
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  Can I don't believe it. Can I try to justify it for four
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  years and completely failed. So I just realized that atheism
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  was not only absurd as a worldview, but it literally
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  leads to contradiction having to do with knowledge.
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  And so when I realized the atheism can't be true.
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  I realized God must exist and after that, I still want to send
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  for another three months because I was totally addicted to
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  pornography and stuff like that. But eventually I got down on my
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  knees and gave my life to God because I knew that if God
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  existed he was the good guy and if he's good, why wouldn't I be
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  serving him and I've been a Christian ever since and
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  recently. I started ministry on Twitter
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  where I talked to atheist because I understand them and so
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  I've been doing that for the last about years.
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  So and I also wanted to say real quick that about my conversation
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  with the other Satanist. I wasn't trying to take him to
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  task or anything. I I apologize if that's how it
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  seemed I didn't even know that he was going to be in there
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  having a conversation with Brett.
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  I just remembered that Brett said that he wasn't feeling very
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  good. And I remember that he was doing
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  the show and I wanted to go in and yeah, no, it's really
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  understandable Daniel. No one's upset about it or
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  anything, you know. you know black metal or he did the right
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  thing and when he came on he stated that he was only a basic
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  member of STS and you know, A lot of what a lot of people like
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  to do a lot of and we've seen a lot of Christians do this in the
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  past and I don't think they all realize that they do it, but
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  they when a person is young like that and I know black metal
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  orders watching right now and I'm not he knows that I'm not
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  like trying to take him to task myself on this but he's a good
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  example, um that young young people in religion doesn't just
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  need to be Satanism. It can be Wicked it can be
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  Christianity. They're all gone home about it,
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  but they may not be in the best position to speak publicly about
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  it. And when you certain countering
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  somebody who like yourself is much more well versed or much
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  more seasoned and experience. It can be sort of like leading
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  him around like a puppy on a string.
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  You know what? I mean?
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  Yeah, I do and if I gave the impression of doing that I do
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  apologize because that wasn't my intention at all.
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  I was genuinely curious and I really wanted to talk to you,
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  you know, I was wanting to you I tried to keep my my stuff to the
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  end of the week and middle to end of the week that gives me
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  time to set up and I'm also busy writing a lot of books and on
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  when I get into this type of stuff it, you know special like
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  tonight it took a lot of Are double checking a lot of
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  searching a lot of research to go back through and pull up
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  things and get things ready? And so yeah, I tried to keep my
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  stuff towards the end of the week.
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  And then later on in the evening on most nights.
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  Oh, we we definitely have family night family time in the evening
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  time. So once my fiancee my lady
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  friend gets off work we we definitely tend to just like say
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  no more of the outside world we go with family time for dinner
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  and whatnot are joining us now is abadon fireborn.
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  He is our Florida Grotto master. Say hi abadon.
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  Okay, I don't know if his mic is a very good mic.
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  Let's hear your mind up. Hey, how's it going, man?
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  Good, man. All right, so You haven't been
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  on the show before abadon. It's great having you can you go
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  ahead and really quickly tell everybody about yourself a
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  little bit. Florida master priests inside of
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  the STS theistic satanists Welcome my path for what over 30
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  plus years. Yeah.
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  Live in Florida. Yeah, it's great.
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  Ham. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Okay, you know, oh that's
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  another thing that a lot of people don't realize about a lot
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  of us as we are family. We do have families.
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  We have kids. We have jobs and everything so
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  Yep. All right, so we're getting
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  going here. Welcome everybody and we've got
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  a good turnout and viewers and everything.
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  It's great to see everybody. I want to say hi to everybody
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  and the comments out there watching on Twitter Rumble
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  Facebook and YouTube yeah, so Right.
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  You have a bit of an audio for us from Michael Aquino.
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  Can you go ahead and send that on through sure get that for
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  you? We're getting all them small
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  little potatoes out of the way. Before we start really getting
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  things going in to the very interesting stuff.
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  So here's an audio by By Michael Aquino, let's go over the period
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  where you essentially broke away from the Church of Satan and
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  form. The Temple of said, let's go
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  into that now. Really quickly before we get
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  into this Brett. What?
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  Can you tell us about this audio?
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  Well, from what I get it's talking all about the history of
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  how the the group kind of separated and what the conflict
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  between him and the Anton was but he spends a lot of time
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  especially at the beginning talking about how him as well as
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  Anton had theistic views about the concept of God and Satan.
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  So again, it gives you more solid evidence that Anton was a
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  theist as well as the members who took the Church of Satan
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  seriously at this time. Yeah, really quickly.
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  I'm going to go on record here and point out to everybody that
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  Church of Satan members hate Michael Aquino because of the
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  1975 Schism and they do everything that they can to
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  Discount and you know, just wait anybody from listening or
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  reading any of his material they try to basically undermine him
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  and say he is not a viable source of information with that
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  in mind. Let's go ahead and quickly
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  whatever thing one last thing according to the same audio
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  file. If you guys all out there
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  listen, very carefully, you will hear towards the end of it that
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  one of the daughters of Anton actually a blinds them and said
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  that everything that he said was true.
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  You will hear that towards the end.
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  Okay, thank you. Yeah, he definitely made peace
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  with the levey family with Xena with Carla with Stanton and was
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  Sharon levay Sharon levay has been given an invite tonight
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  along with few other bigger names satanists, so they might
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  be jumping in at some point in the future.
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  Well the Church of Satan as I mentioned before had a couple of
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  features one. It was very sincere about
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  itself. It was not a hippocritical
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  institution in worshiped the devil the junior Christian
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  Satan, but it understood this as a principle opposed to the
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  randomness of non-conscious nature, which you might call the
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  objective Universe. This was a principle of
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  individual Consciousness apart from that totality of nature.
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  So that totality of nature is what people would what people
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  personalize as God or Jehovah or collectively As Natural gods and
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  in ancient Egypt, they were known as the nature from which
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  we get our modern word nature. So Satan as we understood him
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  was the principle of Consciousness opposed to this or
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  distinct from it, which is how each of us is an independent
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  conscious individual who can look out.
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  Everything that surrounds us have an opinion about it take a
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  stand about it study it and generally have a perspective
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  concerning it. So that is how we understood
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  this principle of Satan and if you were talking about Sin it
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  was not that he was a somebody who is evil.
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  His sin was separateness that he had broken away from being just
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  simply a non-conscious part of this large universe and was now
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  outside of it as a as a conscious entity.
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  So that's separateness was what we were focusing on and
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  worshiping it had nothing to do with with simplistic morality
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  per se and indeed I would have to go on and say that the Church
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  of Satan was actually intensely moral because we didn't come up
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  with excuses for bad behavior such as the devil made me do it
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  or or I was forced to or you know certain like that.
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  We we always maintain this this Position that you are completely
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  responsible for every decision you make in every deed you do
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  and the only person who's going to be on the hot seat for it is
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  not the devil or somebody else but you you know, so we we had
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  if anything a very strict moral atmosphere in the Church of
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  Satan that way and as I mentioned earlier are other
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  stance had to do with hypocrisy that we felt that Society
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  generally had an overdose of hypocrisy and institutional
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  religion also had an overdose of hypocrisy.
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  So we were very adamant that we were going to be honest and
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  sincere in the stances that we took.
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  So what happened was that in 1975 Anton with a suddenly made
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  a decision which he announced to me and expected me to put in the
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  newsletter what that the degrees the initiatory degrees of the
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  Church of Satan we're going to henceforth be available for cash
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  contributions and donations as well as Personal Achievement and
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  attainment and study and really quickly.
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  I'm sorry for interrupting that that's so very interesting
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  point. It's a common misconception that
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  people tend to have to thinking that Aquino broke away from the
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  church Satan over the belief in theism.
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  This is a narrative that Gilmore and the modern Church Satan
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  likes to spin the truth of the matter is is that Anton LaVey at
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  in 1975. Actually unfortunately started
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  doing some shady things. And just as Michael Dr. Aquino
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  stated he was wanting to literally sell the priesthood,
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  you know, clergy positions for cash contributions gifts and
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  whatnot. And according to our current
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  Texas Rado master who is a former Church of Satan member.
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  Um, and everything he has confirmed that pretty much Peter
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  Gilmore and pegging to dream yet are doing something very similar
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  with an Amazon gifts. You can send to Amazon gifts to
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  Peter Gilmore and whatnot and he will give you ranks if you send
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  if you send enough gifts to him, which is pretty shady.
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  That being said, let's go ahead and continue with this.
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  I went back to him and I said I think I misunderstood you here
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  because you can't say that you just buy a degree.
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  I mean or buy the priesthood and he said well, that's exactly
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  what I do want. I do want contributions to the
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  church and I want to be able to award the priesthood and other
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  degrees in exchange for those and I said you can't do this.
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  I said this this puts a lie to everything that we're in it
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  makes them mockery of the priesthood.
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  It makes a mockery of our integrity and he said basically
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  shut up and print it. Oh, yes, I'm sorry.
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  I can't do that. I said I'm if I if that's the
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  choice is you leave I'm gonna have to resign and I did it
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  calls me an enormous amount of shock and personal pain and the
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  details of all this including all the correspondence at that
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  time is related in my book called The Church of Satan which
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  is a history of that institution.
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  There's also also in print and the to make a long story short.
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  I told the really quickly we will be actually looking.
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  At one of the chapters in that very book queued up in this very
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  live stream. I told the church.
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  Generally what I was why I was leaving and almost everybody
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  left with me and together. We formed the Temple of set and
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  continue to forward as an organization of strict
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  Integrity, which it has remained ever since the Temple of Center
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  came to be founded very nice. And you're managed the name
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  change the name change came about because at the time one of
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  the problems that we had always run into was that the term Satan
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  was of course a an invention originally of Judo Christianity
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  going back to the original Hebrews and it was by definition
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  a negative term in an evil term and despite the fact that we had
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  put a positive interpretation on it in the tradition of people
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  like John Melton and Mark Twain and others who had who had
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  focused on the heroism and the nobility of it.
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  It's still was sort of stuck as a negative term as a As symbolic
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  of evil and Badness and despite the fact that we had worked
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  against that we were always sort of pushing up hill on that.
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  So one of the things that we did in 1975 was to completely
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  discard the entire judeo-christian iconography
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  altogether and go back to ancient Egypt where we found set
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  as the ancient Egyptian symbol of the same independence of
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  spirit that we were interested in.
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  So that's that's how the name changed and the context change
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  and it's worked out turned out very well because it enabled us
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  to keep going forward with that any of those having to deal with
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  any of those old stereotypes understood and were you able to
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  ever hash things out with with Anton?
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  No, unfortunately not. It was a very very shocking very
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  unhappy and a very sad parting of ways for me I over the years
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  I occasionally would send him letters.
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  Which I hope that some kind of reconciliation might be
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  possible. I wanted him to be able to see
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  what we were doing with the Temple of set that it was not
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  not done as some kind of a power grab but it was done simply as
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  an active preservation of principles.
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  And I also of course that book that I referred to the Church of
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  Satan which is another huge book.
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  It's a two-volume book. It's about a thousand pages long
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  and again about the size of the phone book available on Amazon.
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  I started writing that as a comprehensive history of the
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  church in about 1982, and I've been revising it and updating it
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  since then until it's reached its final form, which is the one
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  published today and available on Amazon and all the way along I
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  would send him copies of the current edition and say if
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  there's anything in here that you think is unfair or unjust or
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  not representative the truth, please let me know and I'll be
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  happy to address it and he never he never did nor did Diane his
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  wife. Oh, that's terrible or Carlo or
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  Zina his daughters for that matter and many years later when
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  I became friends with Xena again.
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  She essentially adored endorsed. The book said yes, everything in
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  here is quite fair and quite correct.
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  And you know, that's the way it was.
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  So that's the that's it. I had always sort of hoped kind
• 26:11
  of wishfully, you know that we might be able to reconcile
• 26:14
  somehow with Anton before he reached the end of his time
• 26:17
  here, right that just simply wasn't to be it would have been
• 26:20
  a lot of fun if he could have attended one of our
• 26:22
  International Gatherings been a guest speaker and gotten an
• 26:26
  honorary membership and gotten a standing ovation and all that
• 26:29
  kind of one of my dreams. It just didn't happen.
• 26:35
  So thank you for that Brett. That was actually really
• 26:39
  enlightening. A lot of things let's go around
• 26:44
  the table and hear what everybody here has to say about
• 26:48
  that. Okay, go ahead and start.
• 26:55
  First of all, I would like to say that doctor, you know.
• 26:58
  Was one of the most Brilliant Minds ever exist in the satanic
• 27:02
  world, and he is greatly missed and his work however will
• 27:06
  continue to inspire and create new statements.
• 27:09
  But I will say that. The buying of the priesthood is
• 27:15
  is a complete mockery. I mean You wouldn't expect to
• 27:19
  walk into a church and just go what I've read the Bible once
• 27:23
  I'm Gonna Give You $1,000. Let me just start preaching to
• 27:26
  your congregation. Knowing the right mind.
• 27:29
  It doesn't do that way. It does not know.
• 27:32
  It does not know and that I exactly and the fact that the
• 27:39
  Church of Satan itself does that as well is a complete mockery to
• 27:43
  everything that has ever been done in Satanism including other
• 27:48
  various branches. It's just it's it's just
• 27:52
  degrading to us. It's not There is nothing
• 27:55
  favorable in buying your way into anything.
• 27:59
  I mean you have to earn it. Yeah.
• 28:02
  Yeah. Um, thank you for that.
• 28:05
  Abadon. What's your take on that audio?
• 28:11
  Oh, he's gonna go off. I see that's smile. selling of
• 28:19
  the priesthood is a disgrace. to our lineage Any serious Temple
• 28:29
  degrees should be earned. um Yeah, that was one of the major
• 28:36
  disdains that I had. against the COS besides many more their
• 28:43
  mundane atheistic Ploy that they want to reflect upon Society to
• 28:48
  say that this is Who We Are is disgusting Um, yeah the selling
• 28:58
  and just the advancement. It's it needs to stop it.
• 29:05
  It's favoritism. It's brown nose.
• 29:08
  Would you like? You were not retard Gilmore.
• 29:13
  He bought his way into the priesthood.
• 29:16
  Yeah, yeah you we got tracing things back.
• 29:21
  And yeah, that's another thing is is that according to people
• 29:25
  on the inside who was there at the time he paid Blanche Barton
• 29:30
  500 dollars to buy the Church of Satan.
• 29:34
  Their atheistic mundane standpoints needs to be
• 29:39
  abolished. Yeah, and we need to return back
• 29:43
  to bedrock I can go on. Okay.
• 29:47
  I know you can go on it and I know you're holding back because
• 29:51
  I've heard you go off and you're be really really nice.
• 29:55
  You're not shouting or yelling. You're already a man keeping it
• 30:00
  together proud of you. But yeah, and I'm very smart and
• 30:06
  a disgrace to our path. Yep.
• 30:08
  Yep. Thanks for that Daniel.
• 30:11
  How does listening to that interview between with Michael
• 30:15
  Aquino from your standpoint as I I guess you're born again
• 30:21
  Christian. I'm not sure how to yeah, that's
• 30:24
  not sure how to describe you but as a Christian.
• 30:30
  What when you hear that information, how would that make
• 30:36
  you feel if that was somebody talking about?
• 30:40
  Something that happened in your church.
• 30:44
  I think I would be incredibly conflicted.
• 30:47
  It seems like you guys have a lot of respect for Anton LaVey
• 30:51
  pretty much up until this point. That's the impression.
• 30:54
  I've got from what I've heard from all of you and hear that he
• 30:58
  was willing to sell the priesthood.
• 31:01
  It seems like that would be something that would really be
• 31:05
  conflicting and you know, it seems like assuming that you
• 31:08
  guys are on the level and everything.
• 31:11
  That that would feel like a betrayal that he was doing that.
• 31:15
  You would naturally want to side with Michael Aquino, but I could
• 31:19
  see why you wouldn't want to really divide the house at all.
• 31:22
  I know I wouldn't want to see my church split, you know, if I had
• 31:27
  a pastor and a deacon that I both loved and respected and
• 31:31
  they had a disagreement in my pastor started doing things that
• 31:34
  were Shady like this. It would just be really really
• 31:38
  painful emotionally. I mean, it would just not be
• 31:41
  something I would ever want to see in my church.
• 31:44
  So it seems like this would be a great source of of pain and
• 31:49
  turmoil. From just looking at it and what
• 31:53
  I've heard. Yeah. um I'm sorry.
• 31:58
  I'm getting messages. And whatnot.
• 32:01
  Oh one of our guests is not going to be able to make it
• 32:04
  tonight. Sorry about that.
• 32:17
  No, I mean yeah, you're exactly right.
• 32:21
  It is a source of pain and it it definitely Is something that
• 32:27
  causes a lot of problems? it something that is
• 32:34
  reprehensible on the most fundamental level. that anything
• 32:41
  like this could even happen and we're going to be diving into it
• 32:47
  pretty seriously here tonight and showing that it goes much
• 32:53
  deeper than that. So Brett when you first heard
• 33:00
  that interview. What did you think of it?
• 33:03
  Well, I thought of the interview and I also thought about your
• 33:06
  circumstances as well as some of your friends and realized how
• 33:11
  absolutely offended I would be because at this point from all
• 33:15
  that I've heard from Anton and this recording you guys are the
• 33:19
  real deal, but you got an atheist group who's telling you
• 33:23
  guys that you're the garbage you're the trash and we're gonna
• 33:26
  keep profiting off of something that you believe has substance
• 33:30
  and spirituality and Consciousness too.
• 33:32
  It's deeply offensive. If somebody were to come along
• 33:35
  and eat these group and take over like oh denomination of
• 33:40
  Christianity and say, oh we're atheists Jesus never actually
• 33:43
  existed. He wasn't real and that I did
• 33:47
  try right hand on time. He actually spoke about it.
• 33:50
  And yeah, he actually spoke about that right in the Satanic
• 33:54
  Bible. It was the only two times in the
• 33:57
  Satanic Bible that he mentioned atheism.
• 34:01
  He was talking about Christian. this they were infiltrating the
• 34:06
  Catholic Church. They were infiltrating other
• 34:08
  denominations. And yeah.
• 34:10
  They actually did try that. But if I You know if I remember
• 34:15
  Christianity was pretty quick to crack down on that and force
• 34:20
  them out. Right, right exactly.
• 34:24
  But go ahead. Thank you really quickly.
• 34:27
  Go ahead. So the Vatican does allow that.
• 34:32
  The Vatican does allow Christian atheism.
• 34:35
  Yes. It does.
• 34:36
  You can be it. You can be the pope and be an
• 34:40
  atheist. They don't give a shit.
• 34:42
  How the fuck does that work? Because you're still serving the
• 34:46
  church and you're serving God in one way or another.
• 34:50
  There are plenty of priests that will tell you they are atheists
• 34:53
  but they still serve the church because it does well for the
• 34:56
  community. It does well for the world.
• 35:00
  But they still do it. I'm sure there are other
• 35:03
  churches that do the same thing. Like I'm not trying to talk to
• 35:06
  me, that's true though, but that's like people like I'm not
• 35:11
  saying Joel Osteen is an atheist.
• 35:13
  But a lot of preachers they are at his level usually are and all
• 35:18
  they care about is the money and they will eventually at some
• 35:21
  point in their career come out and say something about it.
• 35:25
  Let's say something about that. Yeah, go ahead Daniel.
• 35:28
  So I think there's a lot truth to what you're saying.
• 35:30
  It wouldn't actually surprise me if Joel Olsteen was more on your
• 35:33
  side than he is on mine frankly, but I also wanted to say that I
• 35:38
  have a lot more respect for you guys than I do for atheists.
• 35:42
  And I think the LARPing atheists that are calling themselves
• 35:45
  satanists are The worst kinds of atheists because referring to
• 35:51
  the satanic temple, of course, right?
• 35:53
  Yeah the larpers right that that's the most embarrassing in
• 35:58
  my area. Yeah.
• 35:59
  I think anyone who uses religion to gain money is bad.
• 36:03
  And of course Daniel you got Abid on cracking up over here
• 36:07
  because oh my God, he fucking I I can tell you right now.
• 36:10
  Yeah absolutely despises and example you want to see that man
• 36:15
  go off get them talking about satanic.
• 36:17
  Oh, yeah. I mean, I would advise them too
• 36:20
  if I was Satanist, but I just want to say, you know to me the
• 36:24
  way I see it is there's a war and there's the people that are
• 36:29
  on Satan side and then there are the Christians and then
• 36:32
  everybody else is just kind of lost in the sauce.
• 36:35
  And I respect the people that actually understand that there
• 36:38
  is a war way more than I respect.
• 36:40
  The people that are lost in the sauce and satanists at least
• 36:43
  real satanists like you guys, you know that there's a war and
• 36:47
  you've picked aside. You know and I have a respect
• 36:50
  for that. I don't really respect people
• 36:52
  that don't believe in anything that don't even know that
• 36:56
  anything's going on and aren't actually even fighting, you
• 36:59
  know, so I have a lot more respect for you guys for
• 37:02
  satanists than and all that than I do for all these other
• 37:06
  atheists. And thank you for that.
• 37:09
  I I I'm pretty sure I can speak on behalf of my organization
• 37:13
  that that's something that we definitely appreciate.
• 37:16
  You know, we're not always the biggest fans of Christianity
• 37:21
  ourselves. I know certain members of
• 37:24
  satanic Fillion Society. I have said some pretty mean
• 37:28
  things about Christianity and enjoy, you know, some pretty
• 37:32
  anti-christian stuff whether or not I like that or not.
• 37:39
  But I can tell you right there. They would have they have a lot
• 37:44
  more respect for a Christian theistic Christian who is devout
• 37:48
  in their faith and genuinely a good person at heart then they
• 37:53
  would for an atheist who just mouths, whatever just Place lip
• 38:01
  service to the general. public yeah, it's a lot of virtue
• 38:08
  signaling coming from them and they really don't have anything
• 38:11
  to back it up as far as Foundation wise so it's very
• 38:16
  true. But yeah, it's just something
• 38:18
  that I've studied a lot cultism and Satanism and stuff like
• 38:22
  that. I mean it's something I could
• 38:23
  spend another 40 years going down rabbit holes and still
• 38:27
  really interesting subject. I mean, even when I was a kid, I
• 38:31
  was really into the study of all the dark mysterious stuff.
• 38:36
  I was definitely a fan of hammer horror movies.
• 38:40
  And it was it was always fun watching that stuff.
• 38:45
  So yeah. Yeah, it's definitely a rabbit
• 38:48
  hole that a lot of people. Will go down and definitely find
• 38:53
  pretty interesting. It's a very rich topic and it's
• 38:58
  just as rich as Christianity. I you know on a personal level.
• 39:03
  I find the study of Christian literature very enriching, you
• 39:08
  know, of course, I don't limit myself to just one type of
• 39:11
  Christian literature. I have copies of the Quran, you
• 39:15
  know, the Bible the book Mormon and numerous other texts too,
• 39:19
  you know, but I also have a you know, STS we holy huge coat
• 39:24
  Library. are PDF library for Satanism alone is absolutely
• 39:31
  massive and so yeah. Go ahead.
• 39:39
  I was I was gonna finish with this.
• 39:41
  I mean we've been talking about the money issue the hypocrisy
• 39:45
  but there's also something even darker and more horrible and all
• 39:48
  this. It's the emotional and spiritual
• 39:51
  damage it can do to a person why do people go seeking religion
• 39:55
  because they seek spirituality. They seek answers they seek to
• 39:59
  have their soul fed to find out if there's more to the universe
• 40:03
  than just this and whether they're going to Satanism or
• 40:07
  Christianity if they run into the wrong guy or wrong woman who
• 40:10
  damages them. It's scars that won't heal
• 40:14
  anytime soon and they may never return or give anybody a chance.
• 40:19
  yeah, yeah, it really is and that's the thing that any
• 40:24
  religion needs to be very careful about one of the things
• 40:28
  that differentiates Satanism from Christianity is a and this
• 40:35
  is something that a lot of occultists like about Satanist
• 40:39
  and in general in most cultists and pagans whatnot.
• 40:42
  Follow the same dictate is unlike Christians.
• 40:46
  We don't go ministering to the public.
• 40:48
  We don't feel the need to We stick to ourselves and if
• 40:54
  somebody wants to learn about us they can make the effort to come
• 40:58
  to us to learn about us. Certainly no time.
• 41:01
  Will we ever be the largest religion in the world?
• 41:08
  Currently Christianity take is the takes up one third of the
• 41:13
  human population on the planet. Go ahead.
• 41:15
  Okay. Made me think about I watched
• 41:20
  was quite some time ago. I watched an interview between
• 41:24
  Um, I can't remember the preacher's name, but he
• 41:26
  interviewed the Church of Satan members quite often.
• 41:29
  He still does stuff to this day and I can't remember his name
• 41:32
  for the life of me. But I remember him talking about
• 41:36
  yeah. Yeah, and he said Shrek.
• 41:41
  Michael Shrek while he was on there.
• 41:43
  That's right. Well Nicholas, right?
• 41:45
  That's his name that why don't you guys convert people don't
• 41:49
  you think everybody should be in Satanism and it is in that kind
• 41:53
  of the point to corrupt as many Souls as you can and he
• 41:57
  blatantly said no, we don't want people that are what she
• 42:01
  watching. We do not want people that are
• 42:04
  weak-minded Satanism is not for everyone Satanism is for the
• 42:08
  strong. It's for the powerful and it's
• 42:11
  time for everyone things about TST is that TST is trying to
• 42:16
  recruit as many people as possible and most team members
• 42:21
  have not even read the Satanic Bible.
• 42:26
  Um, as a matter of fact some of them a lot of them actually have
• 42:29
  never even heard of Anton LaVey. They didn't they didn't even
• 42:32
  know that any of this existed which I find absolutely mind
• 42:37
  boggling. He blatantly told that the guy
• 42:41
  he goes we don't want. We don't want everyone we want
• 42:45
  those who are strong enough to walk in Satan's light.
• 42:49
  Not those who will jump back and forth or seeking a cushion
• 42:54
  loving. Tender religion.
• 42:57
  It's not for them and they should.
• 43:01
  It's not for them at all. And you know, one of the you
• 43:05
  know, we can even hear Anton lavey's own words.
• 43:09
  I got a clip here that I would shock most Christians really
• 43:15
  quickly. And yeah, this also goes towards
• 43:17
  this clip also goes towards a little something else that we
• 43:21
  current Church of Satan likes to run around say they like to say
• 43:24
  that there's no cultism that there's no spirituality that
• 43:28
  there's no magic practices or rituals in Satanism and that
• 43:33
  they're never was well then explain at you know, this
• 43:37
  satanas Devil's Mouse where they're doing a coat rituals.
• 43:41
  And then on the way says this we perform human sacrifices by
• 43:46
  proxy and I say the destruction of human being who would say
• 43:50
  create an antagonistic situation towards us in the form of curses
• 43:55
  and purses and hexes Now I'm gonna add a little bit more
• 44:02
  clarity there. I could have extended that clip
• 44:04
  out where LaVey makes it clear that we don't actually throw
• 44:09
  people on The Altar and stab them with a knife.
• 44:11
  We don't do that. But certainly if a person
• 44:14
  irritates us enough if they cause us enough strife and pain
• 44:20
  They will. We are.
• 44:24
  Not hesitant to throw a curse at them and vent our anger and rage
• 44:29
  in some these curses have results in people dying.
• 44:35
  Diane Hagerty in the same just before that actually explains
• 44:41
  what occurs is meant to do in satanism.
• 44:46
  We didn't want to naturally and never would have had would have
• 44:49
  unless we had really been forced to do it.
• 44:53
  We put a generalized purse on all those who helped.
• 45:00
  To get rid of our and they either a curse will do one of
• 45:05
  two things. It will either destroy or
• 45:08
  rehabilitate and that's exactly what's happening.
• 45:13
  So destroy a rehabilitate, so a curse doesn't always necessarily
• 45:17
  mean it's going to kill a person but it could also destroy their
• 45:22
  life in general and or if they learn from the mistake, they'd
• 45:27
  be rehabilitated and seek to Endeavor to not make that
• 45:31
  mistake again. So certainly we do a cult
• 45:34
  traditions and rituals and whatnot.
• 45:38
  You guys got your own form of positive spells like something
• 45:43
  that can actually help somebody. Yes.
• 45:45
  We have there's three basic Satanic rituals Brett.
• 45:50
  There is the compassion which is your positive ritual.
• 45:54
  That's when like say you have a sick family member or loved one
• 45:58
  or there's certain problems or whatnot.
• 46:02
  This is a ritual that you can do to send positive energy their
• 46:06
  way and help things kind of take a turn in their favor.
• 46:11
  So to speak and we have the destruction ritual which is our
• 46:16
  version of a curse. There's many different versions
• 46:18
  of Destruction rituals Anton Louie taught how to utilize
• 46:22
  voodoo dolls or certain things where they could yell and scream
• 46:28
  and stick pins in the doll. You can also use photos and do
• 46:32
  other things burn a piece of paper with a person's name on
• 46:35
  it. Of course, if you can get a bit
• 46:38
  of their body like a fingernail clipping a clipping of hair
• 46:41
  droplet of their blood you can do a much more potent powerful
• 46:46
  curse, but usually a name is all we need in order to do that.
• 46:52
  And then there is the final type of ritual that we can do which
• 46:57
  is called the lust ritual. I think the name of that kind of
• 47:00
  explains it all and what you're using for with that one.
• 47:06
  Can I ask a question about this so?
• 47:09
  I'm really curious. Do you guys consider yourself
• 47:12
  right hand or left hand? We're left-hand path.
• 47:16
  Definitely. There's nothing cushy or nice.
• 47:19
  We're a very less elect few and we definitely don't we're not
• 47:25
  here to collect huge big numbers of people.
• 47:29
  I believe currently ordos Thomas, which was Stanton leves
• 47:34
  organization has roughly about the same group of membership
• 47:38
  number of members as us which was under 50 members and then
• 47:43
  some of the gents more genuine larger organizations like Temple
• 47:46
  set limit to their actual active membership to under a hundred
• 47:51
  members, but then you have organizations such as the
• 47:54
  satanic temple that try to brag about having over 2400 members
• 47:59
  in the Boston Commons area alone, but only less than 800
• 48:05
  shows up to their event. That's sort of funny, especially
• 48:08
  when the event is literally right down the street from them,
• 48:11
  so It shows the difference in economy.
• 48:15
  Go ahead came. As you say words far left-handed
• 48:22
  as you can get some of us aren't as left-handed some of us.
• 48:28
  Still kind of Walk In Between Worlds, but for the most part
• 48:32
  the heads of the organization. Everything above a third degree.
• 48:38
  I would say we are as left as it can get you can't get any darker
• 48:41
  than us. I mean couldn't you like be
• 48:46
  doing stuff like child sacrifice like Aleister Crowley was doing
• 48:51
  That's a myth here is the crowd. There's no actual recording of
• 48:55
  him doing that and it is strictly prohibited to hurt
• 48:58
  children. You were to protect children at
• 49:01
  all causes. And it's one of our satanic
• 49:04
  tenants and it's one in STS. We take very very seriously.
• 49:10
  Yeah, if you look at the satanic rules of the Earth the 11 rules
• 49:14
  of the earth and you can this is something you can actually go to
• 49:18
  the church Satan website and look up it says do not harm
• 49:22
  little children. We don't know I won't say there
• 49:25
  are people there aren't groups out there that pretend to be
• 49:28
  satanists that have hurt children that have hurt people.
• 49:32
  I'm sure that has happened, but there is no organization.
• 49:38
  That has ever had anything like that any file any charges
• 49:43
  pressed or anything recorded. I know people say in
• 49:47
  Freemasonry. I myself am a 30 second degree
• 49:51
  Mason or was I'm no longer a Mason but people would say that
• 49:55
  the Freemasons would sexually abuse people and hurt people in
• 50:00
  rituals and I can honestly tell you that is some of the most
• 50:03
  boring shit I have ever done in my entire life.
• 50:07
  There is nothing that could even They talk more about God than
• 50:13
  they do anything else. It is so judeaic.
• 50:16
  It is ridiculous. And I was and I was Knight's
• 50:19
  Templar at one point and that's literally as high as you can go
• 50:22
  and they are just as boring the whole thing is boring.
• 50:27
  It's old men to get together that don't want to be near their
• 50:29
  wives. So they pay your fee it get
• 50:32
  together. They bullshit they eat and they
• 50:34
  go home that is the extent of what Freemasonry is Freemasonry
• 50:39
  is not this Secret society that they make it look like and how
• 50:44
  people think that they're part of the Illuminati.
• 50:47
  It's all bullshit. It's bullshit.
• 50:48
  I even have a certificate that can prove that I was the highest
• 50:52
  order of Freemasonry and I can tell you it's nothing but
• 50:56
  bullshit if there was anything to it.
• 50:58
  It was gone a long time ago. Well, I'm curious because I my
• 51:05
  understanding is the Aleister Crowley literally wrote in his
• 51:08
  book about the best type of sacrifices like a young boy with
• 51:12
  blue eyes and blonde hair. Yeah, Aleister Crowley books.
• 51:17
  I haven't read any entire Alister Crowley books, but my
• 51:21
  understanding is that he wrote that in one of his books.
• 51:24
  Is that not correct? No, no, not that I know of and
• 51:29
  if he did it was. For this super purpose because
• 51:35
  super hard to find and or edited out by now, but no, I've never
• 51:41
  seen that any of our you know, nothing I own all of his books.
• 51:46
  Abadon, I mean, let me go anything like that.
• 51:49
  All right. He's indicating now.
• 51:52
  I would like for you to look that up because I've never heard
• 51:55
  of that. Daniel I'm gonna flat out say
• 51:58
  that the best way to prove or disprove any Mist to yourself is
• 52:05
  to go looking for them yourself. And so if you've been heard that
• 52:09
  Alistair Crowley wrote that in one of his books, go ahead and
• 52:15
  Find that for us. Yeah.
• 52:17
  Yeah. We have a person wanting to know
• 52:20
  this. We have an individual Alucard
• 52:26
  ricifer seeking to join us. And does anybody know this
• 52:31
  individual? I don't think so.
• 52:33
  No, but if it's like Brett's last show make sure he doesn't
• 52:37
  start streaming and talking about Hitler.
• 52:40
  Oh you remember that? Oh, I listened to that whole
• 52:44
  thing. All right.
• 52:46
  Well Alucard we're gonna go ahead and quickly bring in as a
• 52:51
  momentary guest here up. He okay, so somebody left, okay
• 52:56
  Daniels. Select for some reason.
• 52:58
  So if you even if you try to do this with the video cameras, if
• 53:03
  you bring him up, he will come up on the screen with you.
• 53:06
  So what you want to do is put one of your favorite pictures is
• 53:09
  an overlay and then cover the screen that way.
• 53:12
  All right. Yep.
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  You want to go ahead and do that and Hello card, you're you're
• 53:23
  with us live. Can you hear us?
• 53:32
  Alucard they do this to man. They they'll be quiet and then
• 53:38
  all of the sudden it'll just start screaming.
• 53:40
  So, all right, well They just can't handle Our Winning
• 53:47
  personalities. He's not with us anymore if he
• 53:52
  doesn't want to. go oh his loss and We have taken on with us
• 53:58
  now. Hey, man, how you doing?
• 53:59
  Good good. I just wanted to jump in real
• 54:03
  quick. I was listening, but just want
• 54:05
  to jump in about the Aleister Crowley thing and the child
• 54:09
  sacrifice. He was talking about jacking
• 54:13
  off. He was it's actually on book
• 54:17
  four. It's talking about different and
• 54:22
  it goes in the detail where it breaks down.
• 54:25
  I mean, he did a lot of stuff that kind of to allude and to
• 54:29
  make it even seem darker to hide a lot of like the You know.
• 54:34
  Secretive stuff that they didn't want there's a lot of stuff that
• 54:37
  they want out in the public some stuff.
• 54:39
  He did want in a public and he's Infamous for a lot of Secrets
• 54:43
  being published other people didn't want out in the public.
• 54:47
  But so you held a lot of yes inner workings of a lot of the
• 54:53
  rituals, especially of you know, Baphomet works and stuff like
• 54:59
  that that he did but you know, his thing was very heavily
• 55:04
  focused on sex magic and when it comes to sacrifice, you know,
• 55:08
  he's talking about semen. So and I wouldn't I will take
• 55:14
  everything that probably wrote with a grain salt even things
• 55:18
  that are enlightening still take it with a grand soul even things
• 55:23
  that seem like it's playing out. You know, what he's saying take
• 55:26
  it with a green salt, especially it's all about sexual stuff
• 55:29
  because that takes a lot of study heat that on purpose
• 55:32
  sometimes as a joke and a lot of times to get people that weren't
• 55:37
  really interested or couldn't really understand to take his
• 55:41
  stuff and take it somewhere else.
• 55:43
  Like do you really have to study anyone's books?
• 55:45
  He said, you know, if you want to learn more about this contact
• 55:48
  me, you know, don't try to do this shit on your own try to
• 55:51
  contact me here that address and all this shit so Again anything
• 55:56
  with Crawley, he said a lot of stuff just to get people's
• 56:00
  attention and he would write stuff too to make it like radio
• 56:04
  instructions because it was if you weren't knowledgeable in the
• 56:08
  art, you aren't gonna get anywhere with it.
• 56:09
  He wrote specifically so if you were not in advanced magician,
• 56:14
  it's gonna be like green stereo instructions because it's not
• 56:17
  gonna make any sense. Oh, yeah.
• 56:19
  I mean like I have oh, I don't have all at one point.
• 56:24
  I did have all his books and I I studied Crawley a lot and I can
• 56:30
  not be reading it since you know for what like 14 15 years.
• 56:35
  I can rip up in one of his books and learn something new even a
• 56:39
  book that I've had forever. I rip it open.
• 56:41
  I'm like, oh, okay. Now that I understand a little
• 56:44
  bit more like, oh I get what he's saying and then I can read
• 56:49
  further. But when I was 19 18, I crack
• 56:52
  open. I'm like forget about it.
• 56:55
  Yeah, I'm like, I'm not getting anything out of this maybe
• 56:58
  someday, okay. So good.
• 57:04
  All right, if I read this reference.
• 57:07
  Yeah, go ahead. All right, here we go.
• 57:16
  Can't hear you Daniel. We got people saying that
• 57:19
  Crowley was also a racist. I'm going out look at the time
• 57:22
  frame that he lived in I think everybody was a little bit
• 57:24
  racist back then. It doesn't work craft.
• 57:28
  Yeah, so was Lovecraft, I mean he flat out called people the
• 57:31
  n-word in his books. Apparently, I can't use my phone
• 57:36
  and go to the other screen where I have it on my phone.
• 57:38
  I have to pull up somewhere else.
• 57:40
  So give me another minute. Okay, I'm Daniel.
• 57:42
  I might not work. While Daniel's looking for that,
• 57:46
  we will revisit this in just a minute or so.
• 57:50
  I want to move forward with tonight's big conversations and
• 57:57
  one of the first things that I'm going to point out and I'm gonna
• 58:01
  be bringing I'm gonna go ahead and Screen share something here.
• 58:06
  Let me just give me a second here. so we're gonna go ahead
• 58:12
  and I'm gonna screen share with you guys. all right, so I assume
• 58:24
  you guys can see this I can't see what anybody is doing right
• 58:26
  now because it takes me right out of the the platform to my
• 58:33
  desktop but what we're looking at here is literally the book
• 58:39
  Church Satan by Aunt by Michael Aquino and it's really
• 58:44
  interesting and one things that we're going to be looking at
• 58:49
  here is this is chapter 3 the age of Satan begins, which is
• 58:52
  sort of the name of this live stream or a reason I was
• 58:57
  thinking of just doing the live stream on this chapter alone,
• 59:01
  but I decided to go ahead and expand into something else as
• 59:06
  well and you can see a bunch of my little tabs here.
• 59:11
  We're gonna be getting into all these later on but one of the
• 59:14
  first things I want to point out in this is this is a transcript
• 59:20
  from satanas the devil's, Mass. and it is from Anton lavez
• 59:28
  neighbor that she's talking about Anton Levine how they used
• 59:34
  to always call them Tony. And I'm gonna go ahead and I'm
• 59:39
  going to click out of this really quickly and I want to
• 59:44
  play a clip of what she says and I want people to pay attention.
• 59:50
  To what she says very carefully. Oh according to this publicity
• 59:54
  man that I met. The Felicity man and Mr. LaVey
• 1:00:00
  Came Upon the idea that was his owning a lion The Satanist
• 1:00:07
  Church would be a wonderful offshoot.
• 1:00:11
  And since he did evidently believe in the devil, they hit
• 1:00:15
  upon the idea of the Satanist Church.
• 1:00:18
  He did evidently believe in the devil.
• 1:00:20
  Let's go back and take a look at this.
• 1:00:26
  And bring that up. All right, so you can see that
• 1:00:38
  right here where she's talking about that the publicity man
• 1:00:44
  that she was referring to was Ed Weber.
• 1:00:47
  Now Ed Weber was the gentleman who?
• 1:00:53
  inspired Anton LaVey to create the Church of Satan and this is
• 1:00:59
  an interview and in the late 90s by Michael Aquino the gentleman
• 1:01:05
  in the audio that you heard earlier.
• 1:01:08
  With Ed Weber, and this is the book that he was talking about
• 1:01:11
  in that audio. So here we see on how he meets
• 1:01:19
  santanaway. And whatnot.
• 1:01:21
  And anybody who's watching this live stream after it's done
• 1:01:25
  recording. You can go ahead and freeze
• 1:01:27
  train this and you can read what it has to say.
• 1:01:31
  You can buy find this book in PDF format on the internet for
• 1:01:35
  free if you know where to look or you can go to amazon.com and
• 1:01:39
  buy it to volume. It comes in two volumes.
• 1:01:43
  So Ed Weber met Anton Louie an early 1966 with his wife Barbara
• 1:01:51
  and they went to one of those interviews and with Ed Weber's
• 1:01:57
  help after that event things blew up. and so, yeah, so We see
• 1:02:06
  here. One of the interesting points to
• 1:02:12
  bring up in this and I got to find.
• 1:02:16
  All right, that's right here. What this Michael Aquino asks
• 1:02:23
  since 1975 Anton Lee has insisted that he never believed
• 1:02:29
  in the existence of an actual say I'm sorry can everybody
• 1:02:32
  please make sure that their microphones are off really
• 1:02:34
  quickly. Thank you.
• 1:02:38
  Um Michael will they are Michael quinoa says since 1975 Anton
• 1:02:43
  leeway has insisted that he never believed in the existence
• 1:02:47
  of an actual devil or Satan that Satan was only a symbol or
• 1:02:52
  metaphor was this true when you knew him Ed Weber responds and
• 1:02:58
  says not at all. He is quite definite that he did
• 1:03:02
  believe in the existence of Satan.
• 1:03:04
  This was exactly what made the concept of the of a church Satan
• 1:03:08
  so fascinating um, this also goes on to confirmed that in
• 1:03:18
  satanas, which is some of the clips that I've been playing.
• 1:03:21
  Anton Lee definitely affirms his belief in an actual Satan and I
• 1:03:26
  think when we watch satanas the devil's, Mass. that It becomes
• 1:03:33
  quite definitive that's exactly what it is.
• 1:03:43
  So we see instantaneous the devil's Mass his True evidence
• 1:03:49
  and belief. I mean we heard that. from him
• 1:03:55
  doing his rituals and he they demonstrate many rituals.
• 1:04:00
  I can't show them because there's naked women going on.
• 1:04:03
  And whatnot. We have another guest wanting to
• 1:04:07
  come in Frank's senior. Brett is this an individual you
• 1:04:12
  know? I don't know but I did notice
• 1:04:15
  that I had a few of my trolls out there.
• 1:04:17
  They love stocking onion or not. What you're gonna do, you know
• 1:04:20
  the why I'm ready right? You guys are.
• 1:04:22
  All right. Well, hang on we got an
• 1:04:24
  individual who wants to come in Frank senior.
• 1:04:26
  I'm gonna be bringing in you. Okay now You good to go?
• 1:04:30
  All right. What's going on folks?
• 1:04:33
  I'm going on. Hi, Frank.
• 1:04:35
  How you doing? I'm okay.
• 1:04:37
  What are we talking about? We are saying about yep Church
• 1:04:42
  Satan Antoine. Obey and whatnot really quickly.
• 1:04:45
  You're not gonna do anything weird or anything on camera.
• 1:04:47
  Are you no, no, I'm not like that.
• 1:04:50
  I'm not gonna you know anything like if you if you want me to
• 1:04:54
  turn my camera off I can do that.
• 1:04:55
  That's fine. No, you're okay.
• 1:04:58
  You're fine. Okay, so tell us so that meet
• 1:05:03
  Church Pastor. Okay, don't us a little bit
• 1:05:05
  about yourself. Oh, yeah.
• 1:05:07
  I'm well, I'm a combat veteran just you know, I've watched
• 1:05:11
  Brett Keane on and off, you know for a while.
• 1:05:14
  I'm just sort of kind of curious what's going on because I I came
• 1:05:20
  by this it's you know, this is kind of my free time.
• 1:05:23
  So came by this and just wanted to see what you guys were
• 1:05:27
  talking about. I'm not very well versed and
• 1:05:29
  religion or anything. All right.
• 1:05:31
  Well we're talking about okay, we're talking about your Satan
• 1:05:36
  and the fact that they try to say that On the way never
• 1:05:40
  believed in Satan that he was an atheist and everything.
• 1:05:45
  It's kind of hard to kind of hard for them to our certainly
• 1:05:49
  you're right. The the concept of God has given
• 1:05:52
  the world much beautiful music many beautiful works of art and
• 1:05:57
  certainly I feel God exists, but the name for It's so hard to
• 1:06:03
  argue against that I I apologize my dog starts growling the dogs
• 1:06:08
  next door right by the window. So yeah, she starts barking on
• 1:06:13
  me myself. It's okay.
• 1:06:15
  Yeah right here. Yeah, I can hear yeah where we
• 1:06:21
  had cuz I'm a little late to the late to the party.
• 1:06:24
  Well, most of this is just generally STS members.
• 1:06:28
  That's my organization. We that we run I run satanic
• 1:06:32
  Fillion society and the official Cult of Cthulhu. and we're
• 1:06:36
  pretty much here, and we're about to get into a very A very
• 1:06:41
  interesting thing I and whatnot and Daniel was about to read a
• 1:06:46
  segment from Aleister Crowley's book.
• 1:06:49
  He's ready to go. So yeah.
• 1:06:53
  All right. So if we'll go ahead and we'll
• 1:06:56
  mute our mics for you Daniel and you read that section.
• 1:07:01
  Oh. Okay.
• 1:07:03
  All right. So showing the magical record of
• 1:07:09
  the Beast 666 the following is probably the most reference
• 1:07:13
  quote about Crowley and Human Sacrifice.
• 1:07:15
  It reads as follows magic in theory and practice chapter 12
• 1:07:19
  of the bloody sacrifice and matters cognit says in any case
• 1:07:24
  it was the theory of the ancient magicians that any living being
• 1:07:27
  is a storehouse of energy very in quantity according to the
• 1:07:32
  size and health of the animal. In quality, according to its
• 1:07:36
  mental and moral character at the death of the animal.
• 1:07:39
  This energy is liberated suddenly for the highest
• 1:07:42
  spiritual working one must according.
• 1:07:45
  Accordingly choose that victim which hang on good the next one.
• 1:07:54
  Which contains the greatest and purest force a male child of
• 1:07:58
  perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most
• 1:08:01
  suitable sacrifice what is lesser?
• 1:08:04
  If not entirely on known are the following statements about human
• 1:08:07
  sacrifice taken from Crowley's other writings.
• 1:08:10
  This one is from library 66 or the book of the Ruby star
• 1:08:14
  referencing child. Sacrifice Library 66 then again,
• 1:08:18
  the master shall speak as he will soft words and with music
• 1:08:22
  and what else he will bring forward the victim also, he
• 1:08:25
  sells slay a young child upon the Altar and the blood shall
• 1:08:29
  cover the altar with perfume as of roses.
• 1:08:33
  So those would be a couple of the references.
• 1:08:38
  All right. Well first off that first one it
• 1:08:40
  was definitely Crowley referencing old world views
• 1:08:45
  along before himself. That's from what I gathered of
• 1:08:49
  your reading there. I think the best people to
• 1:08:52
  answer this directly would be king Blackfire and abedon
• 1:08:57
  fireborn. So I'm gonna hand you on over to
• 1:08:59
  Cain or so he can answer this. So most everything that is
• 1:09:04
  written especially if it is not to be understood or to scare
• 1:09:09
  people away. The essence of a young man does
• 1:09:13
  not necessarily mean it is a child and the blood flowing it
• 1:09:18
  over. The altar is the passion of
• 1:09:21
  having sex with an individual on the altar allowing that energy
• 1:09:25
  to flow outwardly. It is said in a lot of different
• 1:09:29
  religions that when that is done, it's your endorphins give
• 1:09:34
  off the smell of roses if it is a magical act.
• 1:09:37
  So that's one of those it is written in the aspect for us to
• 1:09:42
  understand but not the normal person to understand Crowley was
• 1:09:46
  a very crude man. He was not about sensitizing
• 1:09:50
  anything or anything like that. It was all about keeping those
• 1:09:54
  who knew what they were doing in what they were doing and the
• 1:09:56
  people that had no idea. Let's keep them out of there.
• 1:09:59
  So let's scare them off. So just to be clear he did write
• 1:10:04
  about child sacrifice. He's just not actually talking
• 1:10:07
  about child sacrifice. Is that fair to say?
• 1:10:11
  So to the normal person. Yes, that is how it would appear
• 1:10:14
  but to those who have been taught the magical Arts who know
• 1:10:18
  the magical arts and who have been doing magic for I don't
• 1:10:21
  know how long it's I guarantee you if you asked a Thelma
• 1:10:25
  Knight. About that.
• 1:10:27
  They would tell you that that whole thing.
• 1:10:29
  You're taking it the wrong way and they probably believe would
• 1:10:32
  get offended because most Thelma Knights like actual thermonites
• 1:10:36
  or very woke individuals. So, I mean you can contact a
• 1:10:41
  Thelma night. You can read it yourself.
• 1:10:43
  You can ask other satanists and they'll probably tell you the
• 1:10:46
  same thing that there was nothing to be Bloodshed or death
• 1:10:50
  in that at all. No worries.
• 1:10:53
  I don't want to like argue about it.
• 1:10:55
  I just well, but before we did move on from this let's let's
• 1:11:00
  hear from abdom fireborn and his perspective on this.
• 1:11:04
  I like to give people multiple different points of view.
• 1:11:10
  Can hit it on the head? It's just scare the week away.
• 1:11:16
  many societies Put people through tests.
• 1:11:22
  Not just the crawling's but even an old society that I was a part
• 1:11:28
  of called the little in society. Those rituals that are written
• 1:11:36
  down. If you take them for face value
• 1:11:40
  and doom. You're an idiot and you don't
• 1:11:45
  belong in our full. and it's clearly stated and the high
• 1:11:53
  Priests of the living society's books, John.
• 1:11:57
  If you do these ceremonies. You're an idiot and you don't
• 1:12:02
  deserve to walk our road. You're just as the mundane you
• 1:12:08
  you swallow everything. so What? Oh, I didn't realize you were
• 1:12:16
  still going. Go ahead.
• 1:12:16
  Sorry. No, go ahead.
• 1:12:20
  Well, I'm really curious here because You guys said that
• 1:12:25
  you're like as far left hand as you can go, but if older guys
• 1:12:29
  societies were doing this kind of stuff.
• 1:12:31
  Isn't that more left hand? I mean my understanding let me
• 1:12:34
  let me just explain where I'm coming.
• 1:12:35
  Oh, you're going You're not now you're going into cultural
• 1:12:39
  cultural warship and stuff like that.
• 1:12:43
  Yes, there is older societies such as societies from South
• 1:12:47
  America and Africa. Yeah, they were doing that.
• 1:12:53
  They are using a Prana the blood.
• 1:12:55
  Yeah, I'm just wondering when you consider that to be more
• 1:12:59
  left hand because my understanding is like left hand
• 1:13:02
  is like dark stuff and it's hard to imagine, you know, more dark
• 1:13:06
  stuff and like child sacrifice. And if that is a part of my room
• 1:13:11
  not really that really doesn't have anything to do with dark
• 1:13:15
  stuff. You're just honoring harnessing
• 1:13:18
  The Prana if you can't harness the energy without taking a
• 1:13:23
  human life, then you're weak and you don't belong in our past
• 1:13:27
  that goes exactly to what I'm saying?
• 1:13:29
  If you cannot go into your decompression Chambers and bring
• 1:13:36
  forth what you want no matter if it's positive or negative might
• 1:13:41
  as well stay along with the hurt and Conformity of the mundane
• 1:13:44
  because you don't get our chemistry.
• 1:13:47
  You don't get our angles you don't you do not understand what
• 1:13:51
  we're about all you're reading books for face value.
• 1:13:57
  And you're not really grasping the true concept of our angles.
• 1:14:01
  Yeah. Um, thank you have it on thank
• 1:14:05
  you for that. Sorry.
• 1:14:07
  I don't mean to be cutting people off there.
• 1:14:10
  But I know how have it on can get very impassioned and if you
• 1:14:14
  let them carry on too long, you'll have them screaming at
• 1:14:17
  you. Yeah, I was getting that.
• 1:14:20
  Oh, I'm not gonna scream but I'm gonna educate you and I'm gonna
• 1:14:24
  Enlighten you yeah, one other thing.
• 1:14:27
  Go ahead. So, I mean it couldn't someone
• 1:14:32
  else that is in a cultist who does do this kind of stuff that
• 1:14:36
  does like human sacrifice couldn't they say that you guys
• 1:14:40
  are weak because you don't go all the way.
• 1:14:42
  I mean, yeah, at least they could say that all right, and
• 1:14:45
  certainly there's organizations that like to promote that sort
• 1:14:49
  of thing. Yeah organizations such as the
• 1:14:52
  order of the nine angles who definitely try to promote that
• 1:14:56
  and they were low in society was a very hardcore organization
• 1:15:00
  that was off and mistaken as a branch or the order of the nine
• 1:15:05
  angles. They certainly use some of their
• 1:15:07
  literature. But the order of the nine angles
• 1:15:12
  wasn't they were really full-blown satanists.
• 1:15:15
  They were more heavily involved with acts of terrorism.
• 1:15:18
  I actually actually have it on could also illuminate us a
• 1:15:22
  little bit more on the order nine angles.
• 1:15:24
  Go ahead. No, you're right.
• 1:15:28
  They're completely right there. Luke are. you Completely right
• 1:15:34
  now and there's a lot of people in order the nine English that
• 1:15:37
  you have Muslims. You have Christians.
• 1:15:40
  That are 09a, um that that literature by those people were
• 1:15:46
  adopted into many different angles.
• 1:15:48
  So yeah, you have to be careful when that then you are very
• 1:15:52
  political driven Society inside of there.
• 1:15:56
  Organizations that are far right and you also have a few that are
• 1:16:00
  far left. It's it's a mixture.
• 1:16:05
  Oh, yes. I got one I got a good one.
• 1:16:11
  So you said that reading Crowley's work and it talks
• 1:16:16
  about stuff like that. And you asked if people actually
• 1:16:19
  do that or is it you were concerned about it in my it to
• 1:16:25
  someone who doesn't know anything about Christianity
• 1:16:27
  someone just off the street not me myself.
• 1:16:31
  But the same argument could be made that three Christians also
• 1:16:36
  made sacrifices. yes, the first offering yeah, what kind of
• 1:16:42
  Christians May sacrifices I said pre-christians made sacrifices
• 1:16:47
  and it's still are you talking about the the Jews the Israel?
• 1:16:52
  I am there was actually it also extended into the what we call
• 1:16:57
  the burning times. It was altered and changed and
• 1:17:01
  that was actually human sacrificed.
• 1:17:03
  The burning times is also called the Inquisition where the
• 1:17:07
  Catholic church was burning Heretics at the stake. and it
• 1:17:13
  was the burnt offering when we look at the the story of Cain
• 1:17:18
  and Abel able killed Cain on the altar because came killed able
• 1:17:25
  yeah cane killed able but I say Abel kills Kane.
• 1:17:30
  Yes, so I had it. Sorry.
• 1:17:34
  Thanks Cain killed a ball that college because Abel was a
• 1:17:40
  shepherd and so he told to bring the finest of his flock.
• 1:17:44
  She sacrifice on the alternate God would doubt over him because
• 1:17:50
  you know, he gave blood sacrifice.
• 1:17:52
  Well Cain was actually a farmer and he grew crops and when he
• 1:17:57
  brought the finest of his crop to burn at the altar God He got
• 1:18:03
  no praise. He got nothing for it and he
• 1:18:05
  went back and he asked his father Adam, you know, why
• 1:18:09
  didn't God you know, why is God paying more attention to Able
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  and not me my I brought him my most loved and the best of my
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  crop and everything and Adam told Cains like well, it's a
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  sacrifice of the thing that you love most.
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  What do you love most? Um and Abel hurricane thought
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  about it and he was like, well, I love my brother the most And
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  so it wasn't a sacrifice out of maliciousness.
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  It was a sacrifice of the thing. He loved most which is when we
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  actually look at genuine sacrifice to achieve something.
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  It's a sacrifices something that you don't want to give up.
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  That it hurts to give up and you're doing that in order to
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  achieve a greater good a greater profit from it for whatever
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  reason you may not like it, but you do it for the benefit of
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  something. so that we've all done that we've all had to do
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  some sort of sacrifice for someone better or something
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  better. Some really curious where you
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  getting that understanding of the story of Cain and Abel from
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  because in the Bible, it seems to say when I read it that Cain
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  killed Abel because he was jealous of his brother and there
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  was you know, he didn't go and talk to Adam or any of that in
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  the actual Bible, you know, five books that are in that are not
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  written about in the Bible. There's secondary books that at
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  the council and I see that was never added into the Bible that
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  they were. Left out and their secondary
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  books. That's what I was curious about.
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  And what what I have fancy, can I go ahead right because I'm
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  gonna head out and just a minute.
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  You sort of status and yeah, sorry.
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  Yeah, honestly, I find the the whole notion of sacrificing
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  let's say anything to You know another deity.
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  Let's say I kind of find kind of find it ridiculous just because
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  it doesn't There's just a good feeling for you, but it's better
• 1:20:42
  to sacrifice some part of yourself to. you know lightly
• 1:20:48
  put in the work that you have done and that should be the true
• 1:20:52
  sacrifice sacrificing somebody else or some other being whether
• 1:20:56
  be say The you know a piece of meat to a shrine it makes no
• 1:21:03
  sense to me because honestly the best thing you can do is to put
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  forth the work to sacrifice yourself for other people and
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  you know, that's simply all we have because we have no idea.
• 1:21:18
  There is a God or Satan or anything like that.
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  There's no. definitive proof and it just honestly this is just
• 1:21:29
  doesn't really make any sense to me.
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  I'm just kind of really proof. No.
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  No. But yes.
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  Well, what are you before we have an argument breakout here?
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  Let me put it to you this way. The Church of Satan like say
• 1:21:51
  claimed to be atheist because they don't see any proof.
• 1:21:55
  Now there is actually proof but it's not always proof that we
• 1:21:58
  can show other people. It's proof that as individuals
• 1:22:02
  proves to us that anecdotal place.
• 1:22:08
  You can call it what you want. But if it guides you if you
• 1:22:12
  anecdotal evidence. But is it proof to you as an
• 1:22:16
  individual doesn't matter about anybody else, but it's proofing
• 1:22:20
  up for you as a personal individual and but it has to be
• 1:22:23
  proof to everyone. No, it doesn't Frank and I asked
• 1:22:27
  you question. Well, just go ahead Frank.
• 1:22:29
  I'd like to ask you do you believe in a biogenesis?
• 1:22:34
  I don't know what that has to do the conversation, but I'm asking
• 1:22:37
  you about what you believe. Do you believe in anybody?
• 1:22:40
  I I think that there's evidence for a Biogen right?
• 1:22:45
  Yeah show it to us. Okay, I mean, do you want me to
• 1:22:49
  bring up some scientific papers very biogenesis.
• 1:22:55
  I mean, it's it's kind of weird that Brett Keane is asking me
• 1:22:58
  for evidence. When well, you're aren't you
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  God. I'm just asking you back as
• 1:23:05
  well. Yeah, well, I can bring up
• 1:23:07
  scientific papers that say that amino acids are present in a
• 1:23:12
  meteorites that have fallen to Earth and we've actually
• 1:23:15
  collected the evidence of that and those amino acids gathered
• 1:23:20
  together at some point and you know.
• 1:23:24
  The billions of years later we have us which is pretty awesome.
• 1:23:28
  I like being alive. It's cool.
• 1:23:30
  Well, it's okay. What about evidence available?
• 1:23:35
  How about evidence of alien life?
• 1:23:38
  We don't have any like this. In the vastness of the universe
• 1:23:43
  statistically. Yes.
• 1:23:44
  There's going to be alien life. We just happening on the only
• 1:23:48
  planet that we know of. Where life exists?
• 1:23:51
  Well, we'll prove that in the vastness of universe.
• 1:23:55
  Alien. I I You got to take it on face,
• 1:23:58
  don't you? We could own in the universe we
• 1:24:02
  could. You know, so yeah, but we've
• 1:24:05
  been found we we have found that's what I'm talking about is
• 1:24:08
  that I'm not I'm not saying anything on my face.
• 1:24:10
  I'm taking it on evidence. It doesn't say wait.
• 1:24:14
  Wait when I say hey, I'm not talking about Blind Faith.
• 1:24:18
  That I don't. Know actually, there is faith
• 1:24:22
  means that you have something that you believe in something
• 1:24:24
  that it's important. I don't believe me that there's
• 1:24:27
  absolutely no evidence yet. You still believe in it?
• 1:24:31
  And now they're kept can I say something here?
• 1:24:33
  Go ahead. so the way I think about it and I do believe that
• 1:24:39
  there are actual proofs for God but let's say that there aren't
• 1:24:43
  How would you know like how would you prove to me that your
• 1:24:46
  wife loved you? You know, I don't know if you're
• 1:24:48
  married or not. But let's say you are and you
• 1:24:51
  know that your wife loves you you've experienced her love but
• 1:24:54
  how would you prove it to me that your wife loves you?
• 1:24:56
  I don't think you could prove it to me but none purely right and
• 1:25:02
  I mean I you know, we could take a blood test of her, you know in
• 1:25:07
  the endorphins in her bloodstream when she's around me
• 1:25:09
  as opposed to when she's not around me or when she's thinking
• 1:25:13
  of me and then we can run that I don't think we have the Star
• 1:25:16
  Trek equipment to do that. All right.
• 1:25:17
  I mean we can't do it on the Fly.
• 1:25:20
  No, but there's scientific test that we could do that you
• 1:25:24
  another one. Let's say I don't think we could
• 1:25:28
  prove that but let's say you go down into a cave.
• 1:25:31
  And in this case, you meet a dragon, right it actually talks
• 1:25:36
  and you speak with it and you have this experience and then
• 1:25:40
  you return to the cave a few days later and the dragon isn't
• 1:25:43
  there so you can't prove to anybody else that the dragon was
• 1:25:47
  there, but that doesn't mean that you didn't have the
• 1:25:50
  experience. It doesn't mean that the dragon
• 1:25:52
  wasn't there just because you can't prove it to anybody else
• 1:25:54
  you look here. You're just giving me anecdotal
• 1:26:00
  evidence and feelings like yeah, if you feel that a God exists or
• 1:26:05
  whatever. However, you want to believe
• 1:26:07
  that's fine with me. I have no problem with that.
• 1:26:09
  Yeah, but all you're giving me is anecdotal evidence of yeah, I
• 1:26:13
  had this experience. Well, like I I understanding of
• 1:26:21
  the definition if you want to call antidote and it go to
• 1:26:24
  evidence then by all means go ahead for that.
• 1:26:27
  I that's what it is. That's the problem, you know,
• 1:26:30
  well, Not really a problem. All it is is just it's not able
• 1:26:34
  it's it's the problem in you know, your guys is thinking and
• 1:26:38
  I'm not trying to like jump on you and be it, you know, you
• 1:26:41
  sure whatever no no, like, you know, it's you know, it just
• 1:26:46
  doesn't when you mean by your guys is thinking oh boy.
• 1:26:52
  I I stepped in it now. Your guys is fine as in you you
• 1:26:57
  want to essentially Put anecdotal evidence before actual
• 1:27:03
  evidence. What exactly so well the whole
• 1:27:08
  purpose of this live stream physical actual evidence
• 1:27:11
  repeatedly evidence? Okay.
• 1:27:12
  Let me just do you mind if I handle this right?
• 1:27:16
  Well, go ahead and then let's wrap this means handle me.
• 1:27:22
  All right, how do you know the physical world exists?
• 1:27:26
  Are we going into like nihilism? No, I just you said physical
• 1:27:32
  evidence. How do you know that physical
• 1:27:34
  things exist? So I mean my brain because I can
• 1:27:37
  touch things like this pen. Okay.
• 1:27:39
  So since data how do you know your sense date is accurate and
• 1:27:42
  valid? Because I can repeat it like
• 1:27:44
  clicking. Right?
• 1:27:45
  So you're appealing to sense data again, that's begging the
• 1:27:47
  question that's not appealing to sense data.
• 1:27:51
  What the hell is still data? Since data is things like sense
• 1:27:55
  is your your feeling you touch your site your smell senses
• 1:28:01
  sense data. Oh, okay.
• 1:28:04
  Yeah, but I can I can repeat these things like I could write
• 1:28:07
  my desk and you can question right?
• 1:28:10
  So when I say when I say how do you know that your sense data is
• 1:28:13
  valid and then you appeal back to your sense data in order to
• 1:28:16
  validate your sense data. You've just appeal to the very
• 1:28:19
  thing in question. So this is why this is the this
• 1:28:22
  is the same reason that you know people have an issue with
• 1:28:27
  Christians because the Bible the Bible is true because the Bible
• 1:28:31
  says it's true, correct. So you're saying that you're
• 1:28:34
  like you're doing a circular reasoning there, sir.
• 1:28:37
  And that's exactly why you are a Christian bread.
• 1:28:41
  You should visit all just about spirituality.
• 1:28:45
  It actually talks about real physical stuff when we talk
• 1:28:48
  about because I can like we take there's actual measurements for
• 1:28:51
  the physical box. And there is proof that it could
• 1:28:56
  have possibly existence it may or may not have held stone
• 1:29:00
  tablets carved by God, but there may have actually been a weapon
• 1:29:04
  designed to be held in a box used by the Israelites during
• 1:29:09
  their Journey. There's okay, you know that
• 1:29:13
  mountain I was a real thing. Well, yeah, I don't know where
• 1:29:17
  it is and there's suppositions on where it is, but there's the
• 1:29:21
  actual measure what I'm saying is the measurements is actually
• 1:29:25
  right there in the Bible same order measurements for the art
• 1:29:28
  or Noah's Ark you know, we have the measurements.
• 1:29:32
  We have the dimensions of it that so we know what it looks
• 1:29:35
  like and there's you know recently there's A discovery I
• 1:29:40
  forget on what mountain it was a long.
• 1:29:42
  It's a large mountain. It's happened around.
• 1:29:46
  I'm not sure if it was Mount ever at or not.
• 1:29:49
  I would need to look it up and double check.
• 1:29:51
  But yeah, so obviously you've heard that they believe that
• 1:29:54
  they did find Noah's Ark but here's the thing.
• 1:29:58
  That's that's garbage because Noah's Ark couldn't couldn't
• 1:30:03
  have existed because it would have been too big and would have
• 1:30:08
  flexed. Have you ever seen a shipping
• 1:30:10
  like a steel? A cargo ship they Flex in the
• 1:30:16
  water. And all burned this deal so I I
• 1:30:21
  started on fire. Yeah, so like the end on top of
• 1:30:27
  that what about all of the all of the creatures that would have
• 1:30:32
  died during oh, I'm not gonna say that all those animals were
• 1:30:36
  on it that you know around you then you're going into like Kent
• 1:30:41
  Hoven stuff and you're talking about kind so I'm talking about
• 1:30:43
  all the creatures that would have died.
• 1:30:45
  We would have evidence of that because the bones would still be
• 1:30:49
  there in some places and how do you get you know, let's say
• 1:30:53
  kangaroos from you know, Israel over to oh, yeah, you're not all
• 1:30:59
  those animals, but the fact that vessel actually was found and
• 1:31:05
  what and you can say that it wouldn't work, but they actually
• 1:31:09
  have proven that the dimensions and design listed in the Bible
• 1:31:13
  would float it would survive storms.
• 1:31:15
  It was structurally sound and this was actually proven by
• 1:31:19
  scientists with scale models in waiting.
• 1:31:23
  So and it's Chambers. I put the link in your private.
• 1:31:29
  all right your hosting well, it goes imagery of the Ark and all
• 1:31:35
  that what he's been talking about the whole time.
• 1:31:37
  There's the link that you know Stone that's not that's not
• 1:31:42
  about that stone. I I was a geology major for the
• 1:31:47
  scene. That's one that's not the one
• 1:31:49
  that I was talking about. But yeah, even if it is Stone as
• 1:31:53
  a major in that you should know that would can turn into an
• 1:31:58
  almost something structure. Yeah, and that's called
• 1:32:02
  petrification. So when stone or when would
• 1:32:06
  petrifice it gets filled in with minerals, but that takes
• 1:32:10
  millions of years. You can't do that.
• 1:32:12
  With like treated wood even I mean this wouldn't even be
• 1:32:16
  treated wood because it would have been so long ago.
• 1:32:18
  This never would have happened and this is just this is
• 1:32:22
  literally just you can see the erosion on the sides of this.
• 1:32:27
  That's not right there. There's another one.
• 1:32:31
  I don't know. It's supposedly in like this
• 1:32:36
  weird Valley in the mountain. Let me see here.
• 1:32:39
  Can I bring this up? Just give me one second.
• 1:32:44
  I'm looking you guys go ahead and talk.
• 1:32:46
  You know, it's it's cool. I mean, there's over hundreds of
• 1:32:50
  thousands of documentation on this but since this guy
• 1:32:53
  believes, he was a geologist. It doesn't matter what everybody
• 1:32:56
  else so it's cool cool thing. Well, I mean I never said I
• 1:33:01
  believed I was a geologist I never admitted or I never said
• 1:33:05
  that I was a geologist. All right studies not getting
• 1:33:08
  into attacking Frank has his own beliefs.
• 1:33:10
  We have our beliefs and yeah, but I don't I don't Like I
• 1:33:15
  believe. In you know, I believe in
• 1:33:19
  friendship and you know treating people right.
• 1:33:22
  Those are my beliefs and all that forces are happy.
• 1:33:24
  Happy cool. Happy HS but You can't say that
• 1:33:30
  scientific evidence is belief. If I say hey, I can pick up this
• 1:33:35
  pen and click it up on you. Absolutely and I just explained
• 1:33:39
  why. your explanation was kind of bad.
• 1:33:45
  No, you don't understand because you're everything that we do is
• 1:33:48
  about intuition. So when you think that you're
• 1:33:52
  experiencing the outside world. Yeah, so you're a solipsist.
• 1:33:56
  No, I'm not a solipsist. Okay, I'm saying I'm gonna
• 1:33:59
  interrupt here Daniel. Sorry for interrupting Frank.
• 1:34:02
  Please don't. Try to label anybody something
• 1:34:06
  that they don't label themselves, and I'm not trying
• 1:34:08
  to sell woke here at all. But this is obviously turning
• 1:34:12
  into a bit of an argument and I mean really what this episode
• 1:34:18
  you about. If you want an argument we could
• 1:34:21
  I could actually just ask anybody here to Define woke.
• 1:34:26
  know what would you define woke as anything the right doesn't
• 1:34:30
  like that's kind of a broad spectrum narrative.
• 1:34:37
  But okay, I can't argue with that.
• 1:34:39
  I can't disagree with that. Are you considered?
• 1:34:42
  What are you right wing or left wing?
• 1:34:45
  I'm a leftist more. Okay, say that.
• 1:34:49
  So I I wouldn't consider myself woke because I used to be a lot
• 1:34:52
  more conservative when I was a lot younger.
• 1:34:55
  But as I've grown older I've learned a lot more about the
• 1:34:58
  world and a lot more about the people that are around me and
• 1:35:01
  I've gone a lot more left because I care more about the
• 1:35:04
  people around me and I want them to to better that's part of the
• 1:35:08
  reason why I joined the military is because I want to have I
• 1:35:12
  would rather put myself on the front lines and everybody else
• 1:35:15
  have a better life and you know, whether it's my family or
• 1:35:20
  somebody else's family. You know, even if it's people
• 1:35:23
  like disagree with you should have the best life and the most
• 1:35:27
  Freedom that you should have. That's fine.
• 1:35:29
  You know, I don't see I don't get a little bit of a hostility
• 1:35:33
  in the comments there. I I honestly Did I I I've been
• 1:35:40
  blown up in Iraq, and I don't care what people talk about me.
• 1:35:43
  Well, yeah, thank you. Yeah, I I like no, I appreciate
• 1:35:49
  it. But like Frank's Frank looks
• 1:35:52
  like a rat. That's a new one to me. but
• 1:35:56
  usually I get made fun of for my teeth, but that's you know, I
• 1:36:01
  have I have 12 rats as pets. Yeah, that's made good pets.
• 1:36:06
  Maybe that's a lot more rats and what I wanted but you know, I
• 1:36:11
  have a bunch of them. I love them all.
• 1:36:13
  They're really great little pets.
• 1:36:15
  But you know, they're small babies.
• 1:36:18
  But you know the thing is is. You know, we have our
• 1:36:22
  perspectives and our views and not everybody's always gonna
• 1:36:26
  agree with them. That's fine.
• 1:36:28
  Were you intentionally being offensive?
• 1:36:31
  No, I don't think you were some of the comments.
• 1:36:33
  Yeah that kind of came off offensive.
• 1:36:35
  I don't believe that they were intended that way though, so I
• 1:36:37
  didn't get offended. I mean I could be really
• 1:36:41
  offensive but I'm trying to be I know you most leftists usually
• 1:36:44
  can be but then again most people in general can be
• 1:36:47
  offensive. Yeah, but the thing is, you
• 1:36:50
  know, if if you're getting offended by me having you know,
• 1:36:53
  like making statements then. Why why am I the woke one, or
• 1:37:00
  the woke people supposed to be the new identify yourself?
• 1:37:04
  The identify yourself as woke. No.
• 1:37:06
  No, I I have yet to find out what woke means.
• 1:37:10
  I've asked tons of people what what does woke mean to find woke
• 1:37:13
  and I've gotten you know, really?
• 1:37:18
  Yeah, it's Marxism. That's that's pretty much what
• 1:37:21
  the modern conception that way not a Marxist.
• 1:37:23
  So are you a Republican? No.
• 1:37:27
  All right. Okay.
• 1:37:29
  Well here here's the thing when it comes to my political views.
• 1:37:32
  I will vote for the best candidate.
• 1:37:34
  That's gonna do the best for the most amount of people in my
• 1:37:38
  country. Okay.
• 1:37:38
  Who did you vote for in the last election?
• 1:37:40
  I voted for Biden because I didn't like Trump doesn't mean I
• 1:37:44
  like Biden but I still have to serve under the guy.
• 1:37:48
  He's he's my president. He's my commander in chief.
• 1:37:50
  So. I don't have to like them but I
• 1:37:53
  just really quickly you just said you you voted for what fuel
• 1:37:57
  is going to produce the best results.
• 1:38:00
  Now it now that we've come four years and we're in election year
• 1:38:03
  again, and you've seen how Biden treated the United States.
• 1:38:09
  How do you intend on voting this year?
• 1:38:12
  I'm definitely not going to vote for Trump.
• 1:38:14
  I don't know what if you're left with either Biden or Trump
• 1:38:20
  again. Then I have to vote against
• 1:38:23
  Trump. Gold Trump voting for the best
• 1:38:27
  thing for this country because by now already raised up all of
• 1:38:31
  our gas prices inflation has gone through the ceiling and
• 1:38:34
  left American troops. He left your brothers and arms
• 1:38:38
  in Afghanistan. She left people who we were sent
• 1:38:42
  there to protect to be raped murdered and burned alive.
• 1:38:46
  I've seen Sharia law in action first hand.
• 1:38:50
  I've seen what they do to boys strapping them to beds to teach
• 1:38:54
  them to be men. I've seen women who were raped
• 1:38:57
  Stone to death. I've seen taxi driver to draw
• 1:39:02
  while you're watching westerners drag out of their taxi poor
• 1:39:06
  gasoline on and burned alive less than five feet away from
• 1:39:10
  me. This is the kind of thing.
• 1:39:12
  That's Biden left people to suffer under how is that better
• 1:39:17
  for people? How is it cutting off?
• 1:39:19
  Our fuel resources better for people are This prices are going
• 1:39:25
  through the roof are not prices are going through the root of
• 1:39:30
  that was going on underneath Trump.
• 1:39:33
  How is that better? So who signed the let's start
• 1:39:37
  from one point. So who signed the you're getting
• 1:39:42
  into a political thing and I was signed the treaty to get out of
• 1:39:46
  Afghanistan. And Trump was gonna get us out
• 1:39:51
  an organized manner Biden tore up that tree and just said hey
• 1:39:55
  get out of there. No, organized matter.
• 1:39:58
  No plan Trump had a plan to withdraw in an organized manner
• 1:40:02
  to get our equipment out. Now.
• 1:40:04
  We have freaking actually man and Isis running around with
• 1:40:09
  American weapon. Well, the the Taliban and Isis
• 1:40:13
  actually fight each other. Did you know that?
• 1:40:15
  No, they're not Taliban doesn't works for Isis.
• 1:40:20
  No. No, actually, it's the it's
• 1:40:22
  completely different because the Taliban does not like Isis
• 1:40:25
  Calvin Conley fights with Isis that's going on that long time
• 1:40:29
  until that to the Taliban members flying Isis Flags tell
• 1:40:34
  that to the they're not playing right now and Isis combined.
• 1:40:41
  I think this is a Frank. Thank you for joining us tonight
• 1:40:45
  your opinions Are Much appreciated but this is gone on
• 1:40:48
  in a direction that this whole live stream is not very out on
• 1:40:53
  educated on the subjects in which the no we're we're gonna
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  be ending this. Thank you for joining us.
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  We're Not educated enough it's all right guys, we need to read
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  more. Yeah, maybe if I get to believe
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  when I evolved from a slug, I'll be better kind of kind of funny.
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  strange bedfellows right now Yeah, thank you Frank for
• 1:41:19
  joining us but some of that. Was just totally unnecessary.
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  I want to apologize just to our viewers.
• 1:41:28
  I hope everybody was entertained but this was not intended to go
• 1:41:35
  this way. This is a live stream about
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  Satanism not Isis the Taliban or politics.
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  And I want to apologize for people for that to people were
• 1:41:48
  not going that route and thank you for sick and with us, you
• 1:41:53
  know, I appreciate it. I think it's been a good stream
• 1:41:58
  so far A little bit here. Yeah, so what now that we've
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  gotten that out of the way, let's actually, you know, we're
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  about an hour forty two minutes into this.
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  This is you know, I wanted to get to this next part long
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  before now and I want to say thank you to everybody ocean
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  Aveo. Thank you for sticking around
• 1:42:20
  black metal or sin man Scott Jason Sarah.
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  Thank you for all sticking around for this and I apologize
• 1:42:27
  for how that went. Um, that was definitely not the
• 1:42:32
  way for it to intend it to go. So we're gonna go ahead and
• 1:42:38
  we're gonna go into the next section of this live stream.
• 1:42:43
  Hopefully we can get a came Blackfire back here in a minute.
• 1:42:50
  and We will. See if he can come back or if
• 1:42:56
  one of the other STS members or somebody who actually wants to
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  contribute to the topic once jump in they can.
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  So this next section as people may remember I a while back I
• 1:43:11
  brought up this letter that I'm presenting to everybody right
• 1:43:15
  now, which is the Barton letter. And you can see Blanche Barton's
• 1:43:20
  name. This is an official letter from
• 1:43:22
  the church Satan in January 23rd 1998 to 18 from Blanche Barton.
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  And we're gonna go ahead and I'm gonna click this off and I'm
• 1:43:32
  gonna bring up. a better view of this letter, especially the part
• 1:43:38
  that people should pay attention to And which is going to lead us
• 1:43:43
  into the next section of this. Of this live stream and I'm
• 1:43:49
  gonna be pointing out Blanche Barton back in 1998 made a very
• 1:43:54
  interesting statement. And she was talking of two Kenny
• 1:43:59
  chancing about old wolf criticizing her for saying that
• 1:44:04
  Anton LaVey did indeed leave in Satan.
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  Now what we see here in the highlighted part that you guys
• 1:44:13
  can see on your screen. She's talking about how his
• 1:44:18
  belief was very powerful and that she doesn't believe it
• 1:44:21
  should ever be undermined by trying to rewrite her apologize
• 1:44:24
  for it. Which is very interesting she
• 1:44:27
  Splat saying he believed in a very real Satan. and that it
• 1:44:36
  shouldn't be undermined Brett. Let's start with you.
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  What what's your opinion on that?
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  Well all the information that's been shown.
• 1:44:45
  It's quite clear that the very founders of the church say and
• 1:44:49
  then the family they were theistic satanists.
• 1:44:52
  They believed in an actual devil.
• 1:44:54
  They believed in spirituality. They believed in Black Magic the
• 1:44:58
  black flame, right? That's what referred to
• 1:45:01
  Supernatural. I mean where else you go.
• 1:45:05
  I don't I don't see the church Satan having an argument or a
• 1:45:08
  debunked to this or refute. Yeah abadon. graduated on the
• 1:45:19
  head Yeah, I mean he hit it right on that.
• 1:45:24
  They were at theistic. And then I went all flip-flopsy.
• 1:45:30
  Yeah, it definitely interesting on how it went all flip-flopsy.
• 1:45:34
  Like you just said, when do you think that actually happened?
• 1:45:38
  That was during the split. that well, that's what enticed to
• 1:45:43
  split but it was In the seven early seventies on all that
• 1:45:48
  happened. Yeah that letter that I just
• 1:45:51
  showed this letter. If you look at the date abdom it
• 1:45:57
  says January 23rd 33 Anna satanas, that's 1998.
• 1:46:04
  Not 1975. This is Blanche Barton writing
• 1:46:08
  to Kenny chanting. Uh, huh.
• 1:46:12
  And should Blanche Barton in this letter. is right here.
• 1:46:19
  She's calling it out that somebody is trying to rewrite an
• 1:46:24
  apologize Anton lavey's literature is philosophical.
• 1:46:28
  What's what's your opinion on that?
• 1:46:32
  Hey. You see it in you see it in and
• 1:46:37
  they're bought in their philosophy and their teachings.
• 1:46:41
  that they're trying to read this atheistic months and See my my
• 1:46:50
  thing is is I believe that. This is a long game play from
• 1:46:55
  Peter Gilmore. And I'm about to prove it to
• 1:46:57
  everybody. I'm about to prove that this
• 1:47:01
  actual whole thing came about from Peter H Gilmore before we
• 1:47:05
  go into that. Go ahead.
• 1:47:06
  Let's go to Daniel. What is your opinion about what
• 1:47:10
  I just showed on screen. well my take is that it's super annoying
• 1:47:18
  that every time I talk about satanists.
• 1:47:20
  I have to listen to a bunch of atheists.
• 1:47:22
  Tell me how satanists aren't actually satanists.
• 1:47:25
  They're actually just atheists. And when I talk about satanists
• 1:47:30
  I'm talking about people that are actually satanists like you
• 1:47:33
  guys not a bunch of idiots that are LARPing.
• 1:47:37
  So it's super annoying to me. Probably not even as annoying as
• 1:47:42
  it is to you guys, but I understand and totally agree
• 1:47:47
  with you guys that under Anton LaVey.
• 1:47:50
  He literally believed in a real Satan and he believed in Magic
• 1:47:56
  and spells and things of that nature.
• 1:47:58
  He wasn't just an atheist and the fact that whenever I talk
• 1:48:03
  about Satanist, I have to listen to people tell me that Satanism
• 1:48:09
  is just atheists super super annoying.
• 1:48:13
  So it's frustrating for me, too. yeah, um and this is where we're
• 1:48:20
  about to really get into some fun stuff here and I'm throwing
• 1:48:29
  up a few ticker things that's going to be we're actually gonna
• 1:48:33
  see this stuff here coming up in just a minute.
• 1:48:37
  Oh, yeah, I ask you something real quick.
• 1:48:39
  Go ahead. We're you've been doing awesome
• 1:48:43
  presentations every time we do the shows and I'll solid
• 1:48:47
  evidence has been thrown out but the satanists have like some
• 1:48:51
  kind of way. I don't know if you guys have
• 1:48:53
  the system set up where a bunch of Satanist groups can come
• 1:48:57
  together and some assembly and actually make their case for
• 1:49:01
  their views together. Unfortunately with that is
• 1:49:05
  something that a lot of satanists have been wanting to
• 1:49:07
  do for a very long time, but due to the content.
• 1:49:11
  There's a lot of nearly constant infighting between the different
• 1:49:15
  organizations one organizational, you know,
• 1:49:18
  they'll you'll get a couple organizations that will team up
• 1:49:20
  for a while and they'll be like, oh like oh, yeah.
• 1:49:24
  We got your back and then all of a sudden though try to stab each
• 1:49:28
  other in the back out of the blue and it really makes things
• 1:49:31
  very difficult. and whatnot, and that's That's probably one of
• 1:49:42
  the biggest most irritating things people have been in
• 1:49:45
  Satanism been calling for they call satanic, you know, sorry
• 1:49:50
  satanic Unity for years and it's really annoying because
• 1:49:58
  satanists will never be totally unified just like Christianity
• 1:50:02
  will never be totally unified. You can't expect a Baptist a
• 1:50:07
  Lutheran and a Catholic to all agree on what branch
• 1:50:10
  Christianity is, correct, but what they can agree on is that
• 1:50:15
  they're all Christians they all have the same end of beliefs and
• 1:50:19
  they all read from the same Bible.
• 1:50:21
  Unfortunately satanists don't have that in a lot of ways.
• 1:50:26
  We have so many different groups with different viewpoints and
• 1:50:32
  whatnot. And it's really really
• 1:50:34
  irritating and what a lot of people don't realize this
• 1:50:38
  Satanism does have Nominations and especially in lebay and
• 1:50:42
  Satanism. We have cthulhanism.
• 1:50:45
  We have cyphism. We as vampirism we have
• 1:50:47
  gilmorion and some I feel like a morion because we call them
• 1:50:52
  gilmorons, but it's Gilmore and Satanism which is the totally
• 1:50:56
  atheistic shit. And then we have pre-1975
• 1:50:59
  levanism, which honestly I think it's just basic of ionism
• 1:51:04
  everything that I've read in study doesn't you know tells me
• 1:51:08
  that he never really changed his personal viewpoints.
• 1:51:13
  All that much. It's just he changed on how he
• 1:51:17
  presented them. Hey, can I ask a question real
• 1:51:21
  quick? Okay, and then we'll get into
• 1:51:23
  this next part. Yeah, it'll be a quick one.
• 1:51:26
  I'm just curious. Did you guys go with Michael
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  Aquino? Is that sorry my wife you okay,
• 1:51:36
  babe? Hi Daniels wife.
• 1:51:39
  Yeah, did you guys go with Michael Aquino?
• 1:51:42
  Is that kind of what happened? No, we're actually our own
• 1:51:45
  organization. I what it basically was is I was
• 1:51:50
  just a guy who when I became a Satanist when I took on the
• 1:51:54
  mantle to say this, I started doing my own studies and
• 1:51:58
  research over a bunch of years and I wrote The Satanic
• 1:52:03
  Testament initially and it was only like 200 some on pages then
• 1:52:06
  just a little bit over 200 pages is really skinny and now it's
• 1:52:11
  like this big 500 page book. You know, I just started
• 1:52:17
  studying it and I kept on just like how you were saying and
• 1:52:21
  anytime I would talk about Satanism with other people.
• 1:52:25
  They would constantly throw in my face.
• 1:52:28
  Oh, I'm an atheist and all this other shit and So, you know
• 1:52:33
  Satan doesn't exist. None of this is real.
• 1:52:39
  So yeah. that that really irritated me for the longest
• 1:52:45
  time and I was like, no that doesn't sound right and I would
• 1:52:49
  read Satanic Bible and when you read the Satanic Bible It does
• 1:52:54
  not come off as atheism. It comes off as a genuine
• 1:52:59
  heartfelt belief a genuine heartfelt interest and
• 1:53:03
  philosophy to life. So it really threw me through a
• 1:53:09
  loop that people would call it atheism and I really didn't like
• 1:53:14
  that. Did I ever join any
• 1:53:16
  Organization? No, I didn't I didn't feel that.
• 1:53:20
  I fit in with most organizations.
• 1:53:22
  And so the way STS formulated was pretty much one day.
• 1:53:29
  I Me and my girly we were we decided that we would create a
• 1:53:35
  Meetup Group in our local area. And people started coming and
• 1:53:40
  they started hearing I was saying and they liked it.
• 1:53:44
  They enjoyed doing rituals with me. and it just grew from there
• 1:53:49
  and eventually I started doing some YouTube videos and we were
• 1:53:52
  getting supporters and finally, we're we moved down here to
• 1:53:57
  South Carolina from Hagerstown, Maryland and It all blossomed
• 1:54:04
  from there. We created STS. and there we go.
• 1:54:08
  So if I understand you correctly, I just want to make
• 1:54:11
  sure what you're saying is that you didn't come out of the
• 1:54:15
  Church of Satan but you got a lot of inspiration from the
• 1:54:18
  Church of Satan. So you guys are yeah, I
• 1:54:21
  developed over the years a huge PDF Library.
• 1:54:24
  Hang on Avid on I'll get right to you.
• 1:54:26
  I developed a huge PDF Library. So I was doing study all over
• 1:54:31
  the place Satanism didn't really exist as a formulated religion
• 1:54:38
  before Anton Lewis, but you had your smaller Cults with it and
• 1:54:42
  they developed all their own little bits of literature and
• 1:54:46
  that got broaden to Satanism and you know, some of the big ones
• 1:54:52
  like Alistair Crowley and then Dr. Gerald Gardner for Wicca
• 1:54:56
  kind of fed into Anton LaVey. and so no things bloomed from
• 1:55:03
  there. I was a wicked before I was a
• 1:55:05
  Satanist. so Amazon wants to say something here.
• 1:55:09
  So I'm going to pass it off to him really quickly.
• 1:55:14
  Satanism was not created. by Anton LaVey was not created by
• 1:55:24
  Aleister Crowley Satanism has been here before.
• 1:55:30
  Any other religion? Whether you want to call it by
• 1:55:35
  Any Other Name even Anton LaVey. Prove that through making the 72
• 1:55:41
  roster where he took out of every other culture.
• 1:55:45
  It's a formulate that roster so you can see from the Native
• 1:55:49
  American to the biking to the African to the Egyptian.
• 1:55:53
  That's what makes up our path many people many schools and
• 1:55:58
  many organizations even ours have our centralized studies
• 1:56:02
  research. He researches and books that we
• 1:56:07
  read our Temple stuff but inside of there you have Other angles
• 1:56:12
  of ancient studies and ancient Traditions even inside of the
• 1:56:17
  Holy Bible. It says if you do not believe in
• 1:56:20
  me you believe in heathens. We tell you something.
• 1:56:23
  This is ancestral. You can't write a book about
• 1:56:26
  Satanism. Once you're against the Holy
• 1:56:28
  Trinity. That's it.
• 1:56:30
  You walk with the infernal Army. You don't need to read a book or
• 1:56:35
  you don't need to write a book to say you're saying this once
• 1:56:38
  you're Once you turn your back on the right hand path.
• 1:56:42
  You are now upon the left. There's no in between There's
• 1:56:45
  No, Gray Line. You walk left the right you walk
• 1:56:48
  since you want to make label you walk with Christ or you walk
• 1:56:51
  with Satan Christ wasn't here first and there's proof of that.
• 1:56:56
  It's even said in the Holy Bible.
• 1:56:58
  I don't care where you want to go up in the tourists of the
• 1:57:01
  Quran to any of these books. He says it if you do not believe
• 1:57:05
  in me, you're a heating. So what makes it even is a
• 1:57:09
  Satanist. I don't care.
• 1:57:11
  If you want to call us a dark say this a dark Pagan or
• 1:57:14
  whatever. You want to call it Panic say in
• 1:57:16
  a satanistan. Every other school organization
• 1:57:20
  that writes their literature that's their teachings.
• 1:57:24
  That's their ways. but when you really get down to nitty-gritty
• 1:57:29
  of Satanism Satanism was here before the Holy Trinity was
• 1:57:33
  every thought of before you guys even came into existence and
• 1:57:38
  wanted to share the air with us. We were here first and you're a
• 1:57:43
  stolen like you're a stolen light to make up your own
• 1:57:46
  theology to control us on this ionic sphere.
• 1:57:51
  Hell Satan. Thank you Amazon, as you can see
• 1:57:59
  a lot of people support his point of view on things.
• 1:58:02
  I hope that answers some of your question there.
• 1:58:08
  It is yeah check real. It's it's a man.
• 1:58:12
  I would love to get more into that.
• 1:58:14
  But I know you've already been derailed a bunch of times.
• 1:58:16
  So I'll just go ahead and let you continue on with where you
• 1:58:19
  want to go. Okay, thank you, you know, but
• 1:58:24
  no he's he's exactly right, you know.
• 1:58:27
  A lot of what Satanism modern Satanism is is antonovae only
• 1:58:33
  coined the term Satanism to a philosophy that he had and
• 1:58:37
  that's why it's called levae and Satanism.
• 1:58:39
  Satanism in general existed without a name for many hundreds
• 1:58:44
  of years thousands of years. I know that I know I don't
• 1:58:48
  dispute that at all. I mean, I think you can take
• 1:58:51
  Satanism all the way back to the Garden of Eden so Yeah, I'm not
• 1:58:55
  disputing that at all. That wasn't what I meant.
• 1:58:57
  So I must have missed Miss communicated there. but what we
• 1:59:02
  also had a question in the comments that also spurned some
• 1:59:08
  of this onward. It was actually a really good
• 1:59:10
  question and what it was as I clashed up and that's the
• 1:59:14
  question right there before Anton the way creature Satan
• 1:59:18
  what do people call them cells for that?
• 1:59:19
  We called ourselves pagans film and iites wiccans, you know
• 1:59:24
  anything that just wasn't Christian that's right came from
• 1:59:29
  There was freemation. Well, a lot of Freemasons are
• 1:59:32
  very Christian in themselves. You know, they only real thing
• 1:59:35
  to that you need to remember to be a Freemason is that you have
• 1:59:38
  a belief in some sort of deity and most often times.
• 1:59:42
  That's God. Yeah, I think that I mean if you
• 1:59:46
  read the writings though of like high level Freemasons, they talk
• 1:59:50
  about Lucifer as being the the lightbringer and stuff like
• 1:59:53
  that. So I won't it yeah, that's a
• 1:59:57
  very complicated topic. But as I said, let's go ahead
• 2:00:00
  and get into the next portion of this.
• 2:00:05
  So as I was saying, you know before Blanche was talking about
• 2:00:10
  someone undermining by trying to rewrite an apologize for Antonio
• 2:00:14
  vase philosophy. She's she was talking about
• 2:00:17
  somebody who was you know, trying to change things and she
• 2:00:24
  didn't agree with it back then and so we're gonna get into is
• 2:00:27
  we're gonna I'm gonna bring up my I'm gonna share my screen
• 2:00:32
  again. And I'm gonna show people some
• 2:00:37
  very interesting stuff. Here in just a second.
• 2:00:42
  We are going to get into things here.
• 2:00:49
  All right. So we have a bunch of different.
• 2:00:56
  Books here. Now what I've got open in all
• 2:00:59
  these different tabs is PDF files. of Anton lavez entire
• 2:01:06
  book series that he wrote including all the various
• 2:01:11
  introductions by the different people Who wrote introductions
• 2:01:17
  for the Satanic Bible? There are four different
• 2:01:20
  instructions to it. Grant total two by Burton wool.
• 2:01:27
  And then one by Michael Aquino and the most recent one by Peter
• 2:01:32
  H Gilmore, which is called opening the adamantine Gates. we
• 2:01:37
  also have The satanic scriptures which is Peter Gilmore's book.
• 2:01:43
  And we will be getting into this. now one of the things that
• 2:01:47
  I have Stated were a great many number of years is that
• 2:01:53
  utilizing PDFs? We can actually do a Keyword
• 2:01:59
  search I assume everybody can see this.
• 2:02:05
  Yeah control left, right you're gonna do a search or in the
• 2:02:10
  latest versions of Adobe Acrobat.
• 2:02:12
  They have the soul-like button right here that's called find
• 2:02:15
  text or tools. And so you can come in here and
• 2:02:18
  or you can hit control up or if you're on Mac.
• 2:02:22
  There's some variant work there. And what we're going to do here
• 2:02:25
  is we are going to do a keyword search for atheist or atheism or
• 2:02:31
  something like that. And what we're going to do is
• 2:02:33
  we're just going to type in the personal thing and as people can
• 2:02:37
  see it brings it up quite nicely.
• 2:02:40
  I assume everybody can see this, okay.
• 2:02:44
  Yes, okay. Thank you because I can't see my
• 2:02:47
  screen right now because I have it open.
• 2:02:50
  So if when I ask a question like that if somebody could pick
• 2:02:54
  looks like it shows one result. No, actually it shows two it's
• 2:02:59
  two different words. All right one result for each
• 2:03:02
  word in the first word is easiest and the second word is
• 2:03:06
  atheists the plural form. And so all right.
• 2:03:12
  So we got these two results. Let's go ahead and click on one
• 2:03:15
  and what we see here is very interesting.
• 2:03:18
  We see both words actually appear on the same page are in
• 2:03:24
  the same chapter right then end now you remember me earlier
• 2:03:28
  mentioning Christian atheists. And this is the only time that
• 2:03:32
  he mentions it now for people to know which chapter this is I'm
• 2:03:36
  gonna go ahead and scroll up. So people can actually see which
• 2:03:39
  chapter it is and it's in wanted God dead or alive.
• 2:03:45
  Another interesting thing Daniel.
• 2:03:46
  I mentioned to you earlier that we would see this when we got
• 2:03:50
  into this section. If you could go ahead and read
• 2:03:54
  that Daniel. On my phone.
• 2:03:57
  It's actually really small so okay.
• 2:04:00
  Okay, and I have all right. Let me see.
• 2:04:02
  Actually, I think I can it is a popular misconception that the
• 2:04:07
  Satanist does not believe in God.
• 2:04:09
  There we go. Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and
• 2:04:11
  finish off this paragraph for you.
• 2:04:13
  The concept of God as interpreted by man has been so
• 2:04:19
  very Through the Ages that the Satan is simply accepts the
• 2:04:22
  definition which suits him best man has always created his Gods
• 2:04:27
  rather than his Gods created him God is to some benign and others
• 2:04:32
  terrifying to the Satanist God by what are her name.
• 2:04:36
  He has called or by no name at all is seeing as the balancing
• 2:04:40
  factor in nature and it's not a being concerned with suffering.
• 2:04:47
  This powerful force which permeates the balance of the
• 2:04:50
  universe or and balances. The universe is far too
• 2:04:55
  impersonal to care about the happiness or misery of Flesh and
• 2:04:58
  Blood creatures on this ball of dirt upon which we live.
• 2:05:03
  I know that sounds very I know Daniel and Brett will disagree
• 2:05:08
  with that being devout Christians that they are.
• 2:05:10
  Okay. Well, can I ask about that real
• 2:05:13
  quick? Go ahead.
• 2:05:15
  Let's go back up to it. So yeah, well, I'm really
• 2:05:20
  Confused because I thought that he and you guys admit the
• 2:05:25
  Christianity is true. Is that Not correct.
• 2:05:28
  We didn't say that it was true in our belief.
• 2:05:31
  We said that we believe in the existence of God.
• 2:05:35
  We are obviously a followers of the enemies of God.
• 2:05:40
  We honor 16 look at Satan as the good guy is a very complicated
• 2:05:45
  topic, but we're not the only ones who practices probably one
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  of the better ones that would go into explaining this when you're
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  talking about religions would be luciferianism.
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  Especially European luciferianism.
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  This is where they call God yelled the bay off.
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  Which would be a different name for God.
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  And he in that tradition God and this is being adopted in many
• 2:06:14
  forms of modern Satanism too that God is a Creator deity, but
• 2:06:20
  not a kind deity. He is a deity.
• 2:06:23
  That was a very jealousy and I don't have the literature
• 2:06:26
  brought up immediately, but that's basically it that God was
• 2:06:32
  a Creator deity. that Galileo was the creator deity, but
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  Lucifer and Satan is actually the true one who inspires
• 2:06:42
  knowledge wisdom and seeks to undermine this Creator deity and
• 2:06:49
  allow Humanity to flourish to his ultimate end to his Ultimate
• 2:06:53
  Evolution one can say well there is About Jesus Christ.
• 2:07:01
  I mean do you not think that he was real person?
• 2:07:04
  Do you not think that you know, no.
• 2:07:06
  No, there's there's actual archaeological evidence that
• 2:07:09
  shows that Christ actually existed.
• 2:07:11
  There's Roman documentation that says he was a real man named
• 2:07:17
  Yeshua of Nazareth. Do you thinks well, I'm curious.
• 2:07:21
  Do you think that he rose from the dead do you think that he
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  was God? I can't say I agree with that.
• 2:07:28
  They're You know, I'm not gonna say yay or nay on that that is
• 2:07:33
  going into sections of War certainly in lore.
• 2:07:38
  It says that he rose from the dead but he may you know, I'm
• 2:07:42
  not gonna say whether or not he did or not my I I wasn't there
• 2:07:46
  right? Well, I'm just curious because
• 2:07:48
  if it's in lore that and and correct me if I'm wrong here,
• 2:07:52
  but if it is in lore that he did in fact rise from the dead he
• 2:07:55
  was God like we believe if that isn't Lord if I'm understanding
• 2:07:59
  you correctly then when that indicate that God is not some
• 2:08:03
  impersonal being because he literally sent his son here to
• 2:08:07
  Earth To Die For Us Um, no that definitely does not say God Is
• 2:08:15
  Not An impersonal being you know, one of the other branches
• 2:08:18
  of Satanism is cthulinism and in consumingism, the Creator deity
• 2:08:23
  is being called azizol. He is the blind idiot God living
• 2:08:29
  at the center of all creation. He sleeps and we're part of his
• 2:08:32
  dream the moment. He wakes up everything goes
• 2:08:34
  bye-bye. Does he really give a shit about
• 2:08:37
  us? No, but did he create us?
• 2:08:39
  Yeah and his dream. Does he know about us probably
• 2:08:41
  does he care? No.
• 2:08:43
  Well, I mean, maybe it maybe I'm not asking my question
• 2:08:47
  correctly, but it just seems like if Christianity is true and
• 2:08:51
  Jesus was sent he's the son of God and he was sent by God here
• 2:08:55
  to Earth on a rescue mission to pay the price for our sins and
• 2:09:01
  he accomplished that mission and he was a person I mean he came
• 2:09:05
  here for us. Okay suffered the great I'm
• 2:09:08
  gonna interrupt you Daniel. I'm gonna interrupt you because
• 2:09:10
  you are starting to evangelize there.
• 2:09:14
  Um, and you are this is a good topic of conversation that maybe
• 2:09:18
  we can have in a different live stream.
• 2:09:21
  But all I'm gonna say and that's and I'm gonna end this topic off
• 2:09:26
  right with this. There is no evidence that Jesus
• 2:09:30
  was the son of God. However, there is Roman
• 2:09:33
  documentation that says he was a Jewish slave Soldier.
• 2:09:37
  That after he won his freedom after he bought his freedom from
• 2:09:41
  wrong. He then became a rabbi a priest
• 2:09:46
  and he gathered to himself a cult followers.
• 2:09:49
  There is documentation showing that the farsies the other
• 2:09:56
  rabbis the city of Jerusalem and whatnot.
• 2:09:59
  Did not like what Jesus was saying did not like his devotion
• 2:10:03
  and they had him arrested by the Romans.
• 2:10:06
  This is all documented. This is all factual when we
• 2:10:10
  start getting into whether or not he is the Son of God or not
• 2:10:13
  that is getting into supposition that is getting into more.
• 2:10:18
  There is a difference between literature and lore and lore is
• 2:10:22
  not always provable as fact, but it is based Loosely on fact now,
• 2:10:29
  that being said Did Jesus or Yeshua claim to be the son of
• 2:10:34
  God? probably he probably called
• 2:10:39
  himself Messiah and we see this that in multiple different
• 2:10:44
  abrahamic religions from Islam to Judaism.
• 2:10:50
  Where different ministers or high-ranking priests who were
• 2:10:55
  very influential or prophets or messians and they were almost on
• 2:11:01
  par with God. Could they do magic wax?
• 2:11:05
  Well, Jesus said to have walked on water.
• 2:11:08
  He is said to turn water into wine show me an act of David
• 2:11:13
  Copperfield or Chris Angel. That they can't do the exact
• 2:11:19
  same things with Stage Magic. Okay, just because we are
• 2:11:25
  religious just because we do have faith in a real spiritual
• 2:11:29
  being does not mean that we should be blindly faithful to
• 2:11:33
  just simply what it says in Satanism and I can imagine that
• 2:11:38
  Nakia are abadon is nodding his head.
• 2:11:43
  Sorry about that. Avalon is nodding his head in
• 2:11:47
  agreement with me right here that says you can have faith.
• 2:11:51
  You can believe in a spiritual being you can absolutely do
• 2:11:56
  that. Just like how we were trying to
• 2:11:58
  talk to with that Frank guy. Flat out saying you know, listen
• 2:12:03
  you can have faces could be proven to you as an individual
• 2:12:07
  but it doesn't mean that you have to have Blind Faith where
• 2:12:11
  you can mix out all the garbage content and the lore. and See
• 2:12:18
  what the facts are and the facts are we don't have all the facts
• 2:12:22
  of whether Jesus really did walk on water.
• 2:12:25
  It could have been a stage magic trick.
• 2:12:27
  Certainly. We have stage magicians nowadays
• 2:12:31
  that can walk on water. They can walk on water into
• 2:12:34
  waves and have done so on camera they can walk on water in a
• 2:12:39
  swimming pool have people going underneath their feet and we
• 2:12:43
  have this on camera. Can they stop this storm with
• 2:12:46
  the with the word? Sorry about that?
• 2:12:48
  I know. I know you weren't meaning to
• 2:12:51
  insight into storm. No, I'm saying can they stop a
• 2:12:56
  storm with a word? Show me the actual proof that
• 2:13:01
  she just stopped to storm with word.
• 2:13:03
  You can show me a story where he did so.
• 2:13:06
  I mean, that's what there's no actually, isn't it?
• 2:13:09
  Well, no, you're showing me war. That's the thing you're showing
• 2:13:13
  me lore. Not categorical evidence
• 2:13:16
  categorical evidence would be if a person nowadays came about in
• 2:13:21
  a storm was going on like a hurricane or tornado and oh
• 2:13:26
  great example great example of what would be categorical
• 2:13:31
  evidence nowadays. Did you know that there's a
• 2:13:34
  Netflix show called Messiah? I've heard of it.
• 2:13:38
  I haven't watched it. I've actually watched it.
• 2:13:40
  It's only one season like you're supposed to come out with second
• 2:13:43
  season. It's really interesting because
• 2:13:45
  it actually touches base touches on the concept of a messiah
• 2:13:50
  coming into modern times and everybody's wondering whether he
• 2:13:54
  is really the Messiah of God or not.
• 2:13:57
  And one of the things was is he shows up all over the world just
• 2:14:00
  randomly. Very strangely.
• 2:14:02
  Is it a con? Is it a very elaborate con is he
• 2:14:07
  have a lot of people who's backing them up and they're just
• 2:14:09
  pulling a prank on the entire world or not.
• 2:14:11
  Well, one of the things is is that he withstood a sandstorm
• 2:14:16
  just staying on, you know, the steps of them all throughout an
• 2:14:21
  entire like five days dance or unmoving no food no water and he
• 2:14:25
  kept on preaching about God. Another one near the end of the
• 2:14:30
  series is he shows up in the middle of a tornado in America.
• 2:14:34
  He went from like Jerusalem or Eastern Europe in prison because
• 2:14:39
  they actually had him arrested to cropping up Suddenly.
• 2:14:42
  He disappears from incarceration and crops up in you know,
• 2:14:46
  America almost simultaneously during a tornado storm.
• 2:14:51
  What's going on here? That would be if we saw
• 2:14:56
  something like that in real life, that would be more
• 2:14:58
  categorical proof. Okay, instead of lore and
• 2:15:02
  literature right now. Well, you're talking about Jesus
• 2:15:05
  stopped the storm with with a single word.
• 2:15:08
  That is lore. We were not there to see that
• 2:15:11
  right but in a book, but if there's no it like say if we had
• 2:15:17
  Roman documentation, so you want and let me get a word in here.
• 2:15:22
  Sorry. All right.
• 2:15:25
  So if we were to see all that stuff, right and then a few
• 2:15:30
  Generations go by or a few centuries.
• 2:15:33
  Well now it's lower, right? Yeah, you know and that's kind
• 2:15:38
  of the situation right is the it is it definitely is but what I
• 2:15:42
  was going to say is now say if we had Roman documentation.
• 2:15:45
  So we like how we have Roman documentation that Jesus really
• 2:15:48
  did live and that he was executed and that part of you
• 2:15:52
  know, and the reasons why We know that that's actual
• 2:15:56
  literature. That is something that was
• 2:15:59
  documented by military personnel.
• 2:16:02
  In the Roman legion in Jerusalem, they actually
• 2:16:06
  documented that that's fact that is absolute fact, but if they
• 2:16:11
  were to turn around say, oh, yeah, by the way, we actually
• 2:16:14
  saw this guy really do this and they documented that as well.
• 2:16:18
  That would make things very a lot more difficult to deny.
• 2:16:22
  Yeah. I I think I understand your
• 2:16:24
  position you're saying that if you're saying that you you're
• 2:16:29
  not sure if Jesus was actually God or not it maybe he was maybe
• 2:16:33
  he wasn't you're not. Yeah, and there's nothing that
• 2:16:35
  we can you know, we can read all the war and literature there and
• 2:16:41
  but it's up to us to be logical and separate that.
• 2:16:45
  From the fact from the fiction of it because there's no bones
• 2:16:50
  about it. The Bible does have a lot of
• 2:16:51
  fiction in it, but it's also talking about actual events and
• 2:16:56
  two so we've got to learn. As logical people to
• 2:17:00
  differentiate that and divide that line between fact and
• 2:17:04
  fiction and what were they trying to tell us and yeah.
• 2:17:08
  Well, I I think about this, please okay, and then we'll
• 2:17:13
  continue on with yeah. Yeah, but my my question is if
• 2:17:17
  Jesus actually was God and came to earth like I believe he did.
• 2:17:22
  You know what I believe if that did happen when you agree that
• 2:17:26
  God is Not impersonal. I well I don't think he's in
• 2:17:31
  personal. I actually don't on a personal
• 2:17:33
  level. I don't think he is impersonal
• 2:17:35
  what we're reading here what we're reading here that's on the
• 2:17:39
  screen is actually just and on the ways own personal opinion
• 2:17:44
  from back in the 1960s. Okay, my personal my my
• 2:17:49
  individual personal opinions don't always line up with
• 2:17:53
  antonovies. I mean, obviously I'm not gonna
• 2:17:56
  sit here and agree with him for selling the priesthood, you
• 2:17:59
  know, right? I like his philosophy that he
• 2:18:01
  wrote about but I'm not gonna idolize him trying to sell the
• 2:18:06
  priesthood. I'm with Michaela Queen on that.
• 2:18:08
  I believe my priests need to earn it, you know, and I can
• 2:18:11
  imagine Abadon's nodding and everything goes he stood here in
• 2:18:15
  my home being ordained after earning that you know, same goes
• 2:18:19
  with Cain Blackfire. He also did the same thing.
• 2:18:22
  Yeah. Well, I appreciate you answering
• 2:18:25
  that because that definitely clarified what was going on
• 2:18:28
  there because I'm like, well, he's saying God is impersonal
• 2:18:31
  and I don't think that that these guys all believe this so
• 2:18:35
  that's why I wanted to ask about it.
• 2:18:37
  So go ahead. Continue, please.
• 2:18:38
  Okay, so yeah. Well no, I mean we do believe
• 2:18:42
  that we are our beliefs are vastly different.
• 2:18:45
  We have more of our own as well as literature of our own and the
• 2:18:50
  thing is sometimes just with any religion Lauren literature get
• 2:18:55
  intermingled and that can kind of make things.
• 2:18:59
  A little muddy. If you're not if you're not
• 2:19:02
  totally dedicated to the study of it once you get into it, it's
• 2:19:06
  like I'm sure pretty sure if I got into the study of your
• 2:19:09
  Church's literature and whatnot. I could differentiate.
• 2:19:13
  What is actual literature from what is the church lore?
• 2:19:18
  So the same goes with Satanism as well whatnot.
• 2:19:22
  But anyways, so we see here going on going back to this.
• 2:19:26
  We see here that he was dealing with people calling themselves
• 2:19:30
  atheists and Christianity right here, and he called them
• 2:19:34
  hypocrites. He flat out says that it's
• 2:19:38
  absolutely hypocritical. The true Christian Bible is a
• 2:19:43
  massive contradictions, but what could be more contradictory than
• 2:19:46
  the term Christian atheists? So he's criticizing atheists
• 2:19:50
  here. Now what's interesting is this
• 2:19:52
  is the only point in the Satanic Bible that atheism comes up at
• 2:19:58
  all and we can see this just by typing in the first few parts of
• 2:20:03
  the word atheist and you can go all the way up to S and still
• 2:20:06
  have multiple forms. And what we can see that the
• 2:20:11
  software brings us up quite accurate way.
• 2:20:14
  So nowhere else in this book. Is there a reference atheism?
• 2:20:20
  Now what's also interesting is we can go into the other?
• 2:20:27
  Documentation of Anton Lewis and this is the Satanic rituals,
• 2:20:32
  which is the companion to the Satanic Bible and it is the
• 2:20:35
  third book that he wrote. Before writing again in the
• 2:20:43
  early 90s, so there was a huge 20-year Gap.
• 2:20:48
  This was actually the last book he wrote in the 70s this came
• 2:20:53
  out in 1973. And we can do this same routine
• 2:20:57
  again. Atheists and you see it not
• 2:21:02
  bringing anything up. I can go all the way up to that
• 2:21:05
  and I can type. It's not bringing anything up.
• 2:21:08
  It's saying literally no matches were found and I can come in
• 2:21:13
  type in atheism nothing and I'm just going to do this just to
• 2:21:17
  show people that I'm not screwing with the software.
• 2:21:21
  It doesn't mention anywhere in this book.
• 2:21:23
  So we now know that the software is working as it's supposed to
• 2:21:27
  be so we come over here. This is the second book The
• 2:21:30
  Satanic which this was originally titled the complete
• 2:21:34
  witch and we're going to go ahead and we're going to do the
• 2:21:36
  same thing. No matches are being found.
• 2:21:43
  Again, no matches found so all three of these books which were
• 2:21:48
  written. really close together the Satanic Bible the Satanic
• 2:21:55
  rituals and the satanic witch which was eventually republished
• 2:21:59
  in the 80s, which is that's this version right here with Xena
• 2:22:03
  Levis introduction. Shows that he at no point in the
• 2:22:09
  book at all is atheism ever mentioned.
• 2:22:12
  Now. What is interesting?
• 2:22:13
  This is the devil's notebook. This is written in 1992.
• 2:22:19
  And it was the first book that Anton LaVey wrote after 20 years
• 2:22:24
  of silence and not writing and what we're going to see here is
• 2:22:28
  something very interesting. So about this book real quick.
• 2:22:33
  Are you saying that this is after that his church got
• 2:22:38
  commandeered by quote unquote atheists and all that.
• 2:22:40
  Is that what you're so this one? Make sure I'm here's the thing.
• 2:22:43
  Here's the thing from my studies from what I've researched might
• 2:22:48
  Peter H Gilmore entered the Church of Satan actively in
• 2:22:53
  1986. Up until that point the only
• 2:22:57
  real big Schism that happened after 1975.
• 2:23:01
  Was that his wife Diane Hagerty left the church for Satan.
• 2:23:07
  Well, she left him. She they got a divorce.
• 2:23:11
  And the day after she moved out of the black house Blanche
• 2:23:17
  Barton whom she had hired to replace her moved in and he
• 2:23:22
  Blanche Barton what became his final lover and companion all
• 2:23:28
  the way up from that point in 1983.
• 2:23:30
  That's when that occurred. I remember correctly all the way
• 2:23:35
  up to his death in 1997. Peter Gilmore didn't show up in
• 2:23:42
  the church State until 1986 according to the literature.
• 2:23:48
  Um, and what's really interesting after that is during
• 2:23:52
  the satanic Panic era from 1984 up until 1990 Anton Lewis
• 2:23:59
  daughter Xena. Love a was The High Priestess of
• 2:24:03
  the church Satan and then suddenly in 1990 she turns
• 2:24:08
  around she moves. Out of the black house.
• 2:24:11
  She leaves the church Satan she goes over to the to the Temple
• 2:24:18
  of set with Michael Aquino and one of the things that she said
• 2:24:22
  was that Antonov a had suddenly adopted atheism at that point
• 2:24:28
  that he had become very atheistic and discipline of you.
• 2:24:32
  How is it in my opinion? This is only supposition.
• 2:24:35
  This is only my supposition at this point.
• 2:24:40
  Um that where when Did this occur and why is this suddenly
• 2:24:48
  happening after Peter Gilmore joins the church Satan that
• 2:24:52
  suddenly in 1988. There's an article that came out
• 2:24:56
  in a magazine were Anton Lewis supposedly tells a waiter an
• 2:25:00
  ornery later who's giving him a hard time mind you that he said
• 2:25:04
  quote look at me. I am practically an atheist and
• 2:25:07
  that is the only time that Antonov a is said to us refer to
• 2:25:12
  himself as an atheist. I'm gonna make a point right
• 2:25:15
  there really quickly that I've spoken to the author of that
• 2:25:18
  article and he flat out said that after he wrote that he had
• 2:25:21
  to recant that particular section because Antonio never
• 2:25:25
  made that meeting in the restaurant, so that was all made
• 2:25:28
  up. But it's really interesting
• 2:25:31
  that. Gilmore shows up in the church
• 2:25:34
  Satan within two years supposedly antonoviet tells a
• 2:25:39
  waiter that he was an atheist and then within another two
• 2:25:43
  years his daughter leaves the church Satan who was the high
• 2:25:48
  priestess. She was heading the church
• 2:25:50
  during the satanic Panic era which was a very hard time and
• 2:25:54
  she called and she turns her and says that her dad suddenly
• 2:25:57
  taking on atheism as his philosophy that it has his
• 2:26:02
  philosophy is changing to atheism and she doesn't agree
• 2:26:05
  with it. I find that very interesting at
• 2:26:08
  that time line right there. Do you believe it?
• 2:26:11
  No, I don't I well we know that Xena left she accused her father
• 2:26:16
  of becoming of taking on a philosophy and then said that he
• 2:26:20
  wouldn't have lasted this long if he was actually an atheist.
• 2:26:23
  He would have never done this for this long.
• 2:26:24
  This was 1990 when he she left. 1992 was when this book came out
• 2:26:32
  now what's going to be very interesting is I'm gonna show
• 2:26:35
  before I show this book we can see here.
• 2:26:37
  He makes three references to Atheism in this book and we will
• 2:26:42
  come back to this. I'm gonna show his final book
• 2:26:45
  which came out the year after he died.
• 2:26:49
  And what's interesting is we do this again. and nothing nothing.
• 2:26:59
  So only in two out of five books does atheism come up at all.
• 2:27:05
  So we're going to come back to here where we know that actually
• 2:27:08
  came up three times and we're going to take a look at it.
• 2:27:12
  You need right for the word God as well.
• 2:27:17
  God okay. Yeah.
• 2:27:20
  Let's go to here the final book that he wrote about.
• 2:27:26
  God 39 times gods three times Gods with an impostery two times
• 2:27:33
  and there's even more it says God damn goddess godhead
• 2:27:38
  godliness grantable 48 matches Yeah, and you search no God.
• 2:27:52
  nothing Huh? So you want to hear my theory on
• 2:27:57
  what happened? What's your theory Brett?
• 2:28:01
  My theory is is that the daughters as children?
• 2:28:04
  They basically wanted to get away from this there seemed like
• 2:28:08
  there was a little bit of interest for a while there, but
• 2:28:11
  they wanted to change their names.
• 2:28:14
  They wanted to completely real locate.
• 2:28:16
  They knew they were gonna end up being questioned because now
• 2:28:19
  they were famous and it's a lot easier just to tell people now
• 2:28:23
  he was just an atheist. He didn't believe in anything it
• 2:28:27
  was this all Hocus Pocus as opposed to going into a
• 2:28:31
  theological philosophical debate with people based on his
• 2:28:34
  writings is a lot more challenging just brushing people
• 2:28:38
  all atheism. Yeah. exactly exactly, and they
• 2:28:46
  didn't want any part of that. So you're exactly right.
• 2:28:50
  So we're going to go in here into the devil's notebook and
• 2:28:54
  we're just we're gonna Find this.
• 2:28:57
  So the first reference for eight, you know, the term
• 2:29:01
  atheists is atheistic and it's in the chapter evangelists
• 2:29:08
  versus the new God and because I'm not gonna be like the church
• 2:29:11
  Satan I'm gonna show people the context if people want to later
• 2:29:15
  on freeze frame this and they can read the whole context they
• 2:29:20
  can but he mentions it twice out of the entire book.
• 2:29:24
  Remember he's only mentioned it three times.
• 2:29:28
  Um and two times are on the same page again.
• 2:29:31
  To deny TV now would be as atheistic as Ingersoll denying
• 2:29:37
  the existence of God. I don't know who Ingersoll is.
• 2:29:42
  Maybe Brett. You know who Ingersoll was.
• 2:29:45
  Not exactly sure, but I need to ask you a favor real quick.
• 2:29:50
  Go ahead. There's a super popular person
• 2:29:54
  on Rumble that has over a hundred thousand subscribers.
• 2:29:57
  They ask me if they can basically raid my chat over on
• 2:30:02
  Rumble. It's not gonna have any effect
• 2:30:04
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  end up subscribe and over and over I could end up with you
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  know, 90,000 Subs by the end of the night.
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  So can we extend this a little bit if you don't mind, I mean
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  don't close out early is what I'm saying?
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  Oh, yeah. Go ahead.
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  Yeah. Sounds like you need bread.
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  Yeah, we're gonna be taking our time with this.
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  We're not going to be you know, we're not gonna be rushing this
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  that's the whole point is we're gonna take our time with this
• 2:30:34
  and so everybody can see all the facts Because by the end of this
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  I'm gonna be showing something very interesting and I'm gonna
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  be showing a pattern. That's what I'm doing here.
• 2:30:44
  So, yeah, you can tell them to take their time.
• 2:30:47
  Go ahead. I had a question real quick.
• 2:30:49
  Have you ever considered debating this guy like publicly
• 2:30:53
  about all this? um well Let's put it this way.
• 2:30:59
  I met Peter Gilmore one time person when I was 17 and I spent
• 2:31:05
  less than five minutes in the man's company.
• 2:31:08
  And I will tell you what I was crawling the walls to get away
• 2:31:13
  from him. I did not want to be in his
• 2:31:16
  company at all back then now as a 42 year old man.
• 2:31:23
  If Peter Gilmore ever wanted to get into a debate with me on
• 2:31:26
  this and I was allowed to show the evidence that I'm bringing
• 2:31:31
  out today, then sure. I actually invited an individual
• 2:31:37
  onto the show tonight. He is not shown up.
• 2:31:41
  Who lives less than 20 minutes from Peter H Gilmore and just
• 2:31:46
  the other like a month or two ago ran into him in a public
• 2:31:51
  event, and it was pretty funny. This man is named Tom the
• 2:31:56
  poznick or as we all liked call him Dr. Tom Blackwood or Dr. Tom
• 2:32:01
  brand Magister Blackwood years ago.
• 2:32:05
  He was sort of a pariah in the satanic Community.
• 2:32:08
  But now, you know, he's come back, you know, and he's friend
• 2:32:13
  of mine. He's actually been here at my
• 2:32:15
  house and He makes a lot of good point.
• 2:32:17
  He points he comes for he studies more of a a Sumerian
• 2:32:24
  Babylonian type of Satanism and he's very much so into
• 2:32:30
  Mesopotamian culture and everything and he ran into Peter
• 2:32:35
  H Gilmore a couple months ago and He sent him packing.
• 2:32:40
  I forget exactly what all was said.
• 2:32:43
  There was a brief communication between them and then Peter
• 2:32:46
  Gilmore made the excuse that he had to go find his wife and went
• 2:32:50
  running away and they didn't calm didn't see him the rest of
• 2:32:54
  the night. Okay, so the Ingersoll guy you
• 2:32:58
  mentioned I just looked him up and apparently he was involved
• 2:33:02
  with the wisdom of the great Satan speaks something having to
• 2:33:08
  do with God in America PBS and the great Satan speaks and
• 2:33:11
  evening with Robert anger saw that's what I got on that and
• 2:33:15
  the second thing is always going to throw out there.
• 2:33:19
  Oh, My brains oatmeal. Oh, yeah now I remember I don't
• 2:33:25
  think Daniel knows this even though Daniel uses Twitter a
• 2:33:28
  lot. He may not have noticed this
• 2:33:30
  happened ttor witnessed it but you and I we ended up getting
• 2:33:34
  into a big kind of debacle with the Church of Satan and stuff.
• 2:33:39
  Yeah. Yeah Church Satan, they don't
• 2:33:42
  like me. I've got a bunch of trolls that
• 2:33:44
  are you know, sure Satan representatives and that's
• 2:33:47
  actually what spawned all of this.
• 2:33:52
  All of this now is we were I noticed Brett was trying to
• 2:33:57
  communicate with the church Satan and I said, hey, you know,
• 2:34:00
  they're not gonna give you apply to answer they're not going to
• 2:34:03
  give you the time of day. So, you know, I'll happily talk
• 2:34:05
  to you and we started talking now.
• 2:34:08
  We're I would like to say we're friends when she's over friends
• 2:34:11
  Brett. I would say so you're good man.
• 2:34:14
  When I was over there talking to these folks.
• 2:34:17
  I was trying to invite them Daniel to come talk to me and
• 2:34:20
  chat and you know share with me their views and ideas.
• 2:34:23
  Oh, wow. This was going on they were
• 2:34:25
  attacking him because he actually believes in a real
• 2:34:28
  devil and I basically told him I said, it sounds kind of dumb,
• 2:34:32
  why are atheist hidejacking Satanism and all this because
• 2:34:36
  for me it's it comes off unusual because atheist claim to be
• 2:34:42
  these morally Superior people and they don't need the Bible or
• 2:34:45
  God or any kind of entity but they're using Satan as a prop so
• 2:34:50
  I got on to him and Gave him some snarky comments and
• 2:34:54
  unfortunately, they hadn't well, let's just put it this way.
• 2:34:58
  I didn't have the balls to actually come in and have an
• 2:35:00
  open discussion. Now this guy here.
• 2:35:02
  He's like, hey, man, I'm over here.
• 2:35:05
  I'll talk to you I'm like, oh, all right, you know so rocking
• 2:35:11
  That's really awesome. And you know atheists have also
• 2:35:14
  hijacked agnosticism. I'm just saying.
• 2:35:17
  That happened about 30 years ago.
• 2:35:19
  So they kind of do this sometimes now, there are some
• 2:35:22
  atheists that actually say God doesn't exist.
• 2:35:25
  But I'd say at least 90% are technically agnostics or they
• 2:35:30
  portray themselves as agnostics, but really they don't believe in
• 2:35:34
  God. So yeah, they can't do that kind
• 2:35:37
  of stuff. Sometimes it's really
• 2:35:39
  disingenuous. it really is it really is completely
• 2:35:44
  disingenuous and I can't say I blame anybody for not.
• 2:35:53
  Having a civil conversation with him because anymore you know,
• 2:35:57
  there are some polite atheists. I'm not gonna say that this is
• 2:35:59
  all atheist. But anymore we see atheists just
• 2:36:04
  go into Attack Mode almost instantly and when they cannot
• 2:36:08
  logically debate with a person they start putting people down.
• 2:36:12
  It's like when we saw that once that prank guy was in their he
• 2:36:16
  was starting to make some very offhanded comments and uh
• 2:36:21
  remarks he was trying to go to into and argument with him and I
• 2:36:28
  don't know whether he actually wanted to get into an argument
• 2:36:30
  with us or not, but it definitely came off and seeming
• 2:36:34
  that way. I don't know if that was your
• 2:36:36
  perception of that or not. I 100% Thank he was looking for
• 2:36:41
  an argument there. Yeah, he wasn't then he's not a
• 2:36:45
  people person at all. Yeah, exactly.
• 2:36:47
  So we're gonna go ahead and get back to this now, but no.
• 2:36:53
  That's that was a very interesting all conversation our
• 2:36:56
  topic there. Well, you are blowing up on the
• 2:37:00
  outside of Rumble it is I don't know if the numbers and the
• 2:37:04
  viewers are are showing on your end, but on Rumble, it's it's
• 2:37:08
  massive oof. Oh and he's running the rumble
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  the rumble and because I haven't been able to fully connect my
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• 2:37:22
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• 2:37:27
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• 2:37:34
  I also have a YouTube channel, but I'm also got a rumble
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  Channel and I could really use the subscribers there so I can
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  So if you could show me a little bit of love go on over look me
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  over five subscribers, so Go ahead and set up live streams on
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  Yeah. Hey, I wanted to say real quick
• 2:38:20
  too. If you ever do end up doing this
• 2:38:22
  debate, and I'm not trying to go to you into one or anything, but
• 2:38:26
  I would just find it super interesting and I would
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  definitely throw my hat in to be the moderator.
• 2:38:31
  So just found that out there. Google Google I would definitely
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  appreciate that. All right, so let's get back
• 2:38:40
  into this. So we've already identified the
• 2:38:43
  Ingersoll denying the existence of God.
• 2:38:46
  This is the first time that he mentions atheistic or Atheism in
• 2:38:51
  any context within the devil's notebook moving on to the second
• 2:38:56
  one is right here on the same page just a few lines down.
• 2:38:59
  This is very interesting because out of all the books out of all
• 2:39:03
  the references. This is the only one in the
• 2:39:06
  mainline series of books and Anton the way wrote that
• 2:39:09
  actually directly involves Satanism with atheism and what
• 2:39:14
  it says is very interesting and what it says is Being on here.
• 2:39:22
  I'm gonna highlight this so people can see it.
• 2:39:24
  No, um, it has never been enough for us to be atheistic.
• 2:39:30
  We have to we have learned how to smash religious Ignorance by
• 2:39:34
  beating them at their own game using the Christian's own
• 2:39:38
  manufactured fears to destroy them. but that's right there
• 2:39:44
  that comment right there. It has never been enough for us
• 2:39:47
  to the atheistic. But what do you take from that
• 2:39:50
  comment? Can you read it one more time to
• 2:39:53
  me? Because I got bad eyes.
• 2:39:55
  Okay, it has never been enough for us to be atheistic.
• 2:40:00
  We have learned how to smash religious Ignorance by beating
• 2:40:05
  them at their own game using the Christian's own manufactured
• 2:40:09
  fears to destroy them. Well, he's basically I suppose
• 2:40:15
  he's you know, he feels as always doing the opposite of
• 2:40:19
  Christianity, even the sins and the tenants and all that kind of
• 2:40:22
  stuff. I That but really quickly that
• 2:40:26
  term it has never been enough for us to be atheistic.
• 2:40:30
  What do you take from that? Well atheists by classic
• 2:40:36
  definition is one who lacks away from deities.
• 2:40:39
  It doesn't look like you can claiming to be atheist, but just
• 2:40:42
  never enough to be that. Exactly.
• 2:40:46
  I'm basically it's you know, you can't just be an atheist Daniel
• 2:40:50
  currently us three are the only ones here I guess.
• 2:40:54
  What's your take on that? My thoughts I mean, yeah, it
• 2:41:01
  sounds like they were never atheists.
• 2:41:03
  It's he's saying that it's never been enough to be just a atheist
• 2:41:09
  like that. You just too easy.
• 2:41:12
  Yeah, I mean, but yeah, I don't think he's saying that they were
• 2:41:15
  ever atheist. He's suggesting the opposite
• 2:41:18
  that it's never been enough to just be an atheist.
• 2:41:20
  So they haven't been just atheists.
• 2:41:22
  They've been something else. So now yeah, go ahead.
• 2:41:27
  I'm gonna go on the record here and say in a coat explosion
• 2:41:31
  1970. This is an audio interview and
• 2:41:34
  you can actually look this up on YouTube.
• 2:41:37
  Unfortunately. I actually meant to grab this.
• 2:41:42
  Um to show everybody but I did not um Antelope flat out says in
• 2:41:48
  that that they don't believe in an anthropomorphic scene, which
• 2:41:52
  makes sense. I mean idea is not really an
• 2:41:54
  anthromorphic being we just simply anthropomorphize them so
• 2:41:58
  we can understand them better. But he also says that there are
• 2:42:02
  other members of the Church of Satan that do believe that would
• 2:42:06
  like to believe in Satan being anthropomorphic.
• 2:42:10
  But they don't discourage them from that belief.
• 2:42:15
  Which you know, I personally take that, you know, maybe you
• 2:42:18
  know theistic. Excuse me.
• 2:42:22
  Yeah, I personally take that. um as saying that that's not saying
• 2:42:28
  that Satan isn't real that's not saying that they don't believe
• 2:42:31
  in Satan. They just encouraged her members
• 2:42:34
  to have that Outlook on Satan so that they personally can connect
• 2:42:41
  with him. Would that be a I'm I know I'm
• 2:42:44
  paraphrasing that but what would that be a fair assessment even
• 2:42:47
  with Christianity? Yeah, I I would think so.
• 2:42:50
  I don't know if Daniel's gonna agree with me on this but if you
• 2:42:53
  try to bring God down to human thinking I mean God says
• 2:42:58
  repeatedly biblically and I don't want to evangelize but his
• 2:43:02
  ways are not our ways his ways are mysterious.
• 2:43:05
  You know, he does what he's gonna do and he's got his will
• 2:43:09
  so if you answer for more exercise and try to make it to
• 2:43:13
  where he he's on the same level with you morally and all these
• 2:43:17
  kind of things you're gonna find yourself, you know, yes.
• 2:43:24
  Yeah, Daniel. well Yeah, I mean it I don't think he's saying
• 2:43:32
  that they don't believe in an actual Satan here.
• 2:43:37
  That's not what I'm getting. Anyway, I mean you believe that
• 2:43:40
  Satan is actually a real being. I know you talked about the
• 2:43:42
  demogorgon, right but Demi urge demiurge.
• 2:43:47
  I thought you said demigogan. No, it's Demi urge, which is a
• 2:43:50
  we call them Galileo. Uh, no, I mean like the when
• 2:43:57
  something is an idea and then it kind of becomes real then you
• 2:44:01
  say that's called the demo and aggregore and aggregate.
• 2:44:04
  Sorry about that. It's an aggregate or topa.
• 2:44:07
  They're living thought forms. Yeah.
• 2:44:08
  Yeah. Well you you think that Satan is
• 2:44:11
  more real than that, though, don't you?
• 2:44:14
  um He influences my wife. I can't deny that the influences
• 2:44:20
  many other people wives and they're over one.
• 2:44:22
  Third of the human population believes that Satan is real in
• 2:44:26
  some passion reform and therefore he can manipulate
• 2:44:28
  their lives. So yes, he is very much so real
• 2:44:31
  whether or not he is in human creation.
• 2:44:34
  That is a something for a totally different boat debate.
• 2:44:39
  Yeah. Yes in Satanism.
• 2:44:41
  We feel that we as humans are with our own creativity and
• 2:44:47
  intellect created our gods and gave them life.
• 2:44:51
  But to us, you know, that does not destroy or take away any
• 2:44:57
  element of their reality to us. Right.
• 2:45:03
  So I mean, I think that's kind of what he's saying if I'm
• 2:45:06
  understanding him correctly is he's saying whether you believe
• 2:45:09
  that Satan is an aggregore or you believe that he's a real
• 2:45:13
  actual thing that's independent of human Minds either way, you
• 2:45:19
  know, you're Satanist and that's fine as what I'm understanding
• 2:45:22
  is saying yeah, and I'm gonna point out one more fact here for
• 2:45:26
  everybody and this is so everybody can understand this is
• 2:45:30
  that Anton LaVey wasn't like some college graduate.
• 2:45:36
  No, he was a Carney. He was a showman.
• 2:45:39
  He was a person who worked in carnivals and circuses and
• 2:45:44
  whatnot his education as educated as he was was
• 2:45:48
  self-taught. He did not have all the
• 2:45:51
  terminology or language of an encyclopedia.
• 2:45:56
  He had to teach himself how to write he had to teach himself
• 2:46:00
  all of the facts over a period of years.
• 2:46:03
  And so when we read his literature when we read his
• 2:46:08
  writing, We are what we are looking at him trying to
• 2:46:13
  describe something to the best of his ability.
• 2:46:16
  He did not have terms like Ed Gregor, uh transmutable entity
• 2:46:23
  or Any of these other terms that we may have an understanding of
• 2:46:29
  now he was trying to describe something in the best way that
• 2:46:33
  he could in his time and sometimes that took a very long
• 2:46:37
  walk around way of doing so. I want people to remember that
• 2:46:42
  when people read his literature or any other.
• 2:46:47
  Author's literature. Think about what sort of
• 2:46:50
  language they may or may not have known about and Think about
• 2:46:55
  the language that you understand.
• 2:46:56
  So here in our times we understand the terms like egg or
• 2:47:02
  topa transmutable entity and a whole bunch of other different
• 2:47:07
  things. He did not so he was working
• 2:47:10
  with what he had. I I think it's good that he
• 2:47:14
  brought up answer primorica though, Daniel some other
• 2:47:18
  examples of anthropomorphic and how it can be offensive at the
• 2:47:23
  theologies atheists. Do it all the time.
• 2:47:25
  They represent God as an old man on the clouds or a sky Daddy.
• 2:47:31
  This is the humanizing they're bringing God down to some kind
• 2:47:35
  of level the mock or blast me and all this.
• 2:47:38
  So it was humanizing him and you really can't doing that if you
• 2:47:42
  want to understand and actually, um, most people Definitely don't
• 2:47:50
  understand what a deity is and I actually wrote about on this
• 2:47:55
  hangout. Oh in the cloven hook.
• 2:48:00
  Fifth issue. I actually write about
• 2:48:02
  transmutable entities and there's an article I can't show
• 2:48:05
  that picture on here because it's a very naughty picture but
• 2:48:10
  there's an article here that I have.
• 2:48:15
  Um talks about anthropomorphic entrance mutable entities and
• 2:48:19
  when we talk about anthropomorphous
• 2:48:22
  anthropomorphizing something like a deity, it would be
• 2:48:27
  something like how we can answer for morphize animals like say a
• 2:48:31
  duct create Donald Duck or in this case Scrooge McDuck. that's
• 2:48:38
  anthropomorphizing it's making a more human so we can understand
• 2:48:44
  or kind of connect to it. It doesn't mean that you know.
• 2:48:48
  They're not there doesn't mean that they're not real.
• 2:48:51
  It's just we don't try to do that.
• 2:48:54
  We understand that when we do that that is creating a fiction
• 2:48:58
  so we can understand the actual concept.
• 2:49:00
  I like to ask you something that is based upon the topic we have
• 2:49:05
  been talking about so we will continue on the subject.
• 2:49:09
  But one thing I have read is Anton seem to have a very out
• 2:49:14
  negative outlook on humans. It's like he became wary of
• 2:49:18
  them. They annoyed him.
• 2:49:19
  Oh my God. He really did.
• 2:49:22
  He really had a lot of bad experiences with humans.
• 2:49:26
  He was a organist at or a carnival.
• 2:49:30
  He was Kalia he player and he was an organist and he would
• 2:49:36
  play the organ every Sunday night at the tent revivals and
• 2:49:42
  he would see men coming in all the time. um to praise God and
• 2:49:50
  profess their sins and you know be cleansed and whatnot and then
• 2:49:55
  a few days later, he would be at the Kearney Carnival row and he
• 2:50:00
  would see the same individuals. With like a woman that was not
• 2:50:05
  their wife you would see the same individuals at the can-can
• 2:50:10
  girls tent, you know, throwing dollar bills up woo-hooing, you
• 2:50:15
  know, then Nadia the naughty burlesque and whatnot and all
• 2:50:20
  sorts of things. He would get a very he had a
• 2:50:24
  very He just he developed a very cynical Outlook. on Humanity in
• 2:50:31
  general and people in general they they definitely he got very
• 2:50:38
  cynical about it. And he was also for a time he
• 2:50:40
  worked for the San Francisco Police Department as a crime
• 2:50:44
  scene photographer. Probably one of the first ones
• 2:50:47
  of the time and they denied that he ever worked for them yet.
• 2:50:52
  He produced pictures that he had taken of crime scene photos and
• 2:50:55
  whatnot and San Francisco Police Department to this day will deny
• 2:51:01
  that he ever work for them. So he developed a very cynical
• 2:51:04
  outlook on things and as he got older he definitely retreated
• 2:51:09
  more and more and more into his home into his own personal World
• 2:51:15
  his own personal bubble of a world.
• 2:51:20
  So you think it was from his experiences like for instance?
• 2:51:24
  I mean if he's taking photographs of dead bodies and
• 2:51:27
  all that he's seeing that and then he seeing what he perceives
• 2:51:31
  to be hypocrisy all the time while he's doing this thing.
• 2:51:34
  Do you think this is the motivation that led him to it
• 2:51:37
  the psychological break? Um, it could definitely get
• 2:51:42
  Factor there. Yeah, it definitely could have
• 2:51:43
  been a factor. I would say that as time goes on
• 2:51:47
  went on he suffered so many people.
• 2:51:51
  Stabbing him in the back and walking away from him and
• 2:51:57
  opening up their own organizations.
• 2:51:59
  He became he himself would have had plenty of motivation to
• 2:52:03
  become bitter to the entire world in general.
• 2:52:06
  But instead of being bitter outwardly.
• 2:52:09
  He just more retreated inwardly and allowed around himself for
• 2:52:14
  his own personal. for his own personal sanity in his own
• 2:52:19
  personal Mental Health He allowed only a small Cadre of
• 2:52:24
  people to be around him where he could enjoy life to its fullest.
• 2:52:31
  Don't you find something interesting?
• 2:52:33
  I don't know if you've ever thought about this, but he
• 2:52:36
  seemed to have a great deal of love and respect for animals,
• 2:52:40
  but eventually from some of the writings that I looked at.
• 2:52:43
  He started bringing humans down to animal level and some of the
• 2:52:48
  only no that's one of the fundamental ground basis.
• 2:52:52
  That was right from the word go when you look in the satanic
• 2:52:56
  statements the nine satanic statements it flat out says it's
• 2:53:01
  humans are you know, just an animal We Are a Human Animal but
• 2:53:06
  we are the most vicious of the animals and the animal kingdom
• 2:53:10
  and it's we're the most vicious because of our intellectual
• 2:53:14
  prowess and our spiritual beliefs.
• 2:53:18
  Um, certainly you see other animals out there creating their
• 2:53:21
  own homes and whatnot. But no other animal in the world
• 2:53:26
  will completely and totally and so complete and utterly
• 2:53:33
  transformed their natural environment to suit themselves
• 2:53:38
  You Don't See You Don't See goers or prairie dogs or whatnot
• 2:53:44
  or anything like that tearing down trees and you know
• 2:53:49
  harvesting the lumber and creating these elaborate homes
• 2:53:54
  with multiple rooms and doorways and television snow these you
• 2:53:58
  don't see that very often. You see bees you see ants you
• 2:54:03
  see the occasional Beaver create their own homes like that.
• 2:54:07
  But even then it's still very rudimentary.
• 2:54:10
  They don't have electricity. They won't harness things that
• 2:54:16
  um the animal that the rest of the animal kingdom more humans
• 2:54:19
  can harm us, you know, I would suspect that to my dog some of
• 2:54:25
  the things that we do as humans seems almost like so sorry.
• 2:54:30
  Even though it just flipping on a light can be a like flipping a
• 2:54:35
  switch or hitting a button on a remote.
• 2:54:38
  The only thing I can imagine why these other groups are safe.
• 2:54:42
  That's especially for Satan treat you like to do.
• 2:54:46
  It really can always tends to be when people treat each other
• 2:54:50
  like that. It usually comes down to money
• 2:54:52
  and ego. That's always here.
• 2:54:55
  We satanas are supposed to have a very healthy ego.
• 2:54:59
  But all right, you know if you're harming potential friends
• 2:55:06
  are oh it does definitely get in a lot of people's way.
• 2:55:10
  It's really ridiculous. Now, I'm gonna say I've met some
• 2:55:14
  really wonderful Satanist out there a few them were, you know,
• 2:55:18
  I invited on to this show and well because of our little
• 2:55:22
  left-winger who came on who caused problems there sort of
• 2:55:28
  glad they they didn't but they can only imagine the explosion
• 2:55:33
  that would have happened then but You know, these are really
• 2:55:38
  nice people to really good people.
• 2:55:39
  I've met Sharon Lee she is a sweet sweet woman.
• 2:55:43
  I've met other individuals such as Eric Freeman who owns House
• 2:55:47
  of wills up in Akron, Ohio and his wonderful.
• 2:55:53
  Um, counterpart has wonderful girl.
• 2:55:55
  I don't know if their girlfriend fiance or whatnot, but I met
• 2:55:59
  them both and they're wonderful people.
• 2:56:01
  I've met winter Lake Tom Blackwood and several others and
• 2:56:06
  they're all really good people and almost every single one of
• 2:56:09
  them are very much. So theistic satanists.
• 2:56:13
  And or theistic left hand occultists and every time I
• 2:56:17
  encounter a theist. It doesn't matter if in the long
• 2:56:21
  run we don't get along or not. At least we can have a polite
• 2:56:24
  conversation whenever I encounter an atheistic Satanist
• 2:56:28
  or someone who claims to be an atheist.
• 2:56:31
  It very quickly turns aggressive in violent and language.
• 2:56:36
  It turns very negative and definitely leaves a very sour
• 2:56:40
  taste in my mouth. I kind of have the same thing
• 2:56:44
  going I can get along with pagans.
• 2:56:46
  I can get along with people claim to be warlocks which is
• 2:56:49
  and I've gotten along with any theistic Satanist I've ever ran
• 2:56:54
  into on the shows, but I just cannot for some reason there's
• 2:56:58
  no way to I I guess Daniel he's got he's got the way to do it.
• 2:57:04
  He's got buddies, but I cannot connect with atheists.
• 2:57:08
  That's so good. I'm not gonna slam on all
• 2:57:14
  atheists. There are some good ones that
• 2:57:16
  you know, they'll respect your beliefs and be like, oh well if
• 2:57:20
  that's how you want to be and that's how you want to go ahead
• 2:57:22
  and then we just try not to talk about religion. you know, I do
• 2:57:29
  have some atheist friends that are I talked to just about every
• 2:57:34
  day that are in my DMs. I've done spaces with them and
• 2:57:37
  they're super productive the spaces that I do with them and I
• 2:57:41
  call them like a or b t or atheists.
• 2:57:44
  I have a whole tier list that I could it's cool.
• 2:57:46
  Yeah. Yeah, if you're on Twitter, I I
• 2:57:49
  can send it to you. It's pretty funny.
• 2:57:50
  Actually. I'm also I'm on them number of
• 2:57:54
  platforms. I'm on Twitter true.
• 2:57:56
  Social Facebook. Actually, I'm very picky but it
• 2:58:00
  so if you message me on Facebook and want to be on my friends
• 2:58:04
  list, because we've talked I'll let you but just remind me who
• 2:58:07
  you are. Oh, you know, I'm very picky
• 2:58:11
  because I'm trying to just I have a bunch of people on my
• 2:58:15
  friends. Listen, I'm gonna be slowly
• 2:58:17
  clearing them out. I haven't spoken to them.
• 2:58:19
  They're just sort of taking up space, but I want to just keep
• 2:58:22
  like friends family people who like communicate with all my
• 2:58:26
  friends list there. I don't have any for all them
• 2:58:29
  people now. Right there though Daniel.
• 2:58:32
  I have had a couple handful of friends that were atheists, but
• 2:58:36
  they either ended up becoming theist one guy ended up becoming
• 2:58:39
  a Buddhist whenever he was a hardcore atheist nihilist you
• 2:58:44
  ever dealt with a nihilist before they're fun.
• 2:58:46
  Oh, I think every atheist should be annihilistic kind of bothers
• 2:58:50
  me that they're not Because I don't think that in their
• 2:58:54
  worldview they have any justification for believing that
• 2:58:57
  their lives have meaning or any of that stuff.
• 2:58:59
  So well if I find there there is a one religion that you could
• 2:59:04
  sort of call it nihilistic. But in my opinion it's a lot
• 2:59:08
  more fun than nihilism and it's a branch of Satanism actually
• 2:59:13
  and I actually run the organization that heads it up
• 2:59:18
  and it's called cthulianism and we're also called the official
• 2:59:22
  culture Cthulhu. So if you want to talk about
• 2:59:26
  giant squid monsters coming to destroy the planet and sort of
• 2:59:30
  learn about impersonal are deities there you go.
• 2:59:36
  It's fun get into a whole bunch of HP Lovecraft.
• 2:59:39
  Yeah, I would love to learn more about that at some point.
• 2:59:43
  You know, there are so many things that would love to pick
• 2:59:46
  your brain about. You have to know how much I'm
• 2:59:49
  home during. All right.
• 2:59:51
  I know I know because what we've been going on for over three
• 2:59:54
  hours now and you know, I there is still a lot of ground to
• 2:59:59
  cover and I do want to get to it in this in this here because
• 3:00:03
  what I've got to show is going to blow people's mind.
• 3:00:07
  And so we're we're coming to the point where I'm about to make
• 3:00:11
  the change over into the introductions and then showing
• 3:00:14
  some the big the big nuclear bomb.
• 3:00:19
  So let's go ahead and let's continue on with this and let's
• 3:00:24
  just try to keep this moving because I don't want to go too
• 3:00:27
  far over three hours. I don't I definitely don't want
• 3:00:30
  to go beyond four hours because I'm getting hungry and dinner
• 3:00:35
  sitting on the stove. I'll make sure in the future
• 3:00:38
  whenever we're ready to an open discussion type of thing.
• 3:00:41
  I'll let Daniel know sound good, you know, yeah, that sounds
• 3:00:44
  definitely good to me. Yeah, I mean, I would love to do
• 3:00:47
  a space with you but you know, whatever.
• 3:00:49
  I definitely we can definitely work on that.
• 3:00:52
  We can definitely work on that. All right, so getting back to
• 3:00:54
  this this is the third and final time in the devil's notebook
• 3:00:58
  that Anton LaVey talks about atheism.
• 3:01:02
  All right, so and this is literally the final time out of
• 3:01:07
  five books that he ever mentions it.
• 3:01:10
  The final time out of five books that he ever mentions it let's
• 3:01:13
  let's think about that for a second people.
• 3:01:16
  It took over 20 years for him to mention Atheism in his main line
• 3:01:21
  book series five times. That's sort of saying something
• 3:01:27
  so the context in which this is is the consumer society in which
• 3:01:32
  we now live is an extension of the society once governed by
• 3:01:36
  religion for many centuries instead of obeying the Holy
• 3:01:40
  Bible right or wrong TV advertising now instructs what
• 3:01:46
  to buy and what not to buy atheism wasn't tolerated when
• 3:01:50
  scriptural dictates were in fashion and accepted as the word
• 3:01:54
  now thanks to satanic infiltration.
• 3:01:57
  It said it's safe to say I don't believe in God.
• 3:02:00
  But modern heresy not conforming to but modern heresy not
• 3:02:08
  conforming to a television lifestyle not accepting
• 3:02:11
  television truths. I would I wish he couldn't put
• 3:02:15
  that in parentheses personally is liable to be punished with as
• 3:02:19
  much righteous enthusiasm as ever.
• 3:02:23
  Now right here. We're not seeing that he's
• 3:02:25
  saying that Satanism is atheism. Literally he's saying that
• 3:02:29
  because of Satanism coming about atheism became more acceptable.
• 3:02:36
  Am I correct? so I'm getting yeah, yeah that,
• 3:02:42
  you know because of Satanism coming about people wanted to
• 3:02:47
  choose the lesser of two evils. It was literally like Christ,
• 3:02:50
  you know. Pontius pilot looking at the
• 3:02:53
  Pharisees and being like listen, we got this poor guy here.
• 3:02:56
  He doesn't really hurt anybody but you guys want us crucifying
• 3:03:00
  so we're gonna give you the choice you can choose to set him
• 3:03:03
  free or choose to set this guy for you who's a murderer rapist
• 3:03:06
  a thief and everything else who we want to kill Which one do you
• 3:03:10
  want set free? And then them say oh set free
• 3:03:13
  the murderer. Doesn't make any sense.
• 3:03:17
  Um But this right here, you know, it says, you know, hey
• 3:03:22
  it's talking about. I think it's pretty clear what
• 3:03:26
  it's talking about because the satanic infiltration.
• 3:03:30
  It's now safe. I was trying to make comparison
• 3:03:36
  there but then I lost track of myself.
• 3:03:37
  That's all good. So even if we did manage to get
• 3:03:42
  into debate with these folks later on and somehow they pulled
• 3:03:46
  something out of rabbitsap where they getting saying something
• 3:03:49
  about him being an atheist later.
• 3:03:51
  I mean still the point of salad when he started it when he
• 3:03:55
  founded it when he came up with it.
• 3:03:58
  He would have still been theistic.
• 3:04:00
  So yeah very much. Pretty much.
• 3:04:04
  So this is the literally the last time that he mentions
• 3:04:09
  Atheism in the mainline book series and which is like the
• 3:04:13
  core fundamental, Texas satanism.
• 3:04:16
  You know, you got to think about this that when you're talking
• 3:04:21
  about a religious text. You're not really going to look
• 3:04:25
  into magazine articles, you know people, you know, magazine
• 3:04:28
  articles can fade into the side scape.
• 3:04:32
  Um, you're not really going to be talking, you know, unless
• 3:04:35
  it's a magazine that he himself is producing and that could can
• 3:04:39
  be sort of considered scripture. So like the clove and Hope Or
• 3:04:42
  whatnot. There that could be considered
• 3:04:46
  direct scripture but like Time magazine or music magazines or
• 3:04:51
  secondary things where he showed up in interviews that he did
• 3:04:54
  publicly that's not going to be considered totally Canon
• 3:04:57
  scripture. Am I correct?
• 3:04:59
  So I mean like if the art Bishop of Saint Mary's Church comes
• 3:05:05
  along and starts telling on the news about his personal beliefs.
• 3:05:10
  Does that become Canon scripture to the Catholic Church?
• 3:05:14
  I don't think so, but don't ask me to vouch for the Catholics.
• 3:05:19
  Yeah. Well, I mean it doesn't become
• 3:05:22
  can scripture but you know like say if the pope came on it
• 3:05:26
  really still wouldn't be considered getting scripture
• 3:05:29
  because popes come and go. You know.
• 3:05:33
  The same thing. I mean he was the guy founded
• 3:05:35
  the religion, but he's dead now over 20 years.
• 3:05:39
  He come they come and go. Same effect.
• 3:05:43
  I know I'm sounding very harsh there, but that's the basic
• 3:05:48
  concept. I don't I definitely don't
• 3:05:53
  endorse the pope myself. I think he's pretty far gone,
• 3:05:57
  please. This one is well, I I grew up in
• 3:06:01
  the era Pope John Paul the second, you know for the longest
• 3:06:05
  time. So we're gonna go ahead and
• 3:06:08
  we're gonna move on into the introductions now there has been
• 3:06:11
  four different introductions to the Satanic Bible.
• 3:06:15
  Over the course of its existence since it's publication 1969.
• 3:06:21
  And four different introductions two of them by the same
• 3:06:26
  individual and I will go into the reason why that is here in a
• 3:06:32
  moment. When we go into the
• 3:06:34
  introductions we pull up the same search.
• 3:06:39
  Still showing up nothing. Just give it the best chance
• 3:06:42
  possible. It shows up.
• 3:06:43
  Nothing. This is the first introduction.
• 3:06:45
  This is the original introduction by Burton wool for
• 3:06:50
  the Satanic Bible. This is the first one that there
• 3:06:52
  ever was. The second introduction was
• 3:06:58
  written by Michael Aquino. This was for a hardcover edition
• 3:07:02
  of the Satanic Bible and it came a few years later.
• 3:07:07
  And so we do the same thing. Again, nothing coming up.
• 3:07:14
  Give it the best chance possible.
• 3:07:17
  It does not turn up and then the third introduction which is
• 3:07:22
  after the 1975 schism. Between Michael Aquino and Anton
• 3:07:28
  LaVey Michael Aquino left the church Satan Antoine away wanted
• 3:07:32
  to replace aquino's introduction in the Satanic Bible again, you
• 3:07:37
  know just because he didn't want anything further to do with
• 3:07:40
  them. He contacted Burton again and
• 3:07:43
  had him write up a totally new introduction.
• 3:07:46
  So going back to the original introduction author. and Burton
• 3:07:50
  will certainly did so No, I have a question for you.
• 3:08:00
  Does anyone who's got the rights to hand on books now and do they
• 3:08:05
  have the ability to edit things that they wanted to I'm gonna be
• 3:08:09
  getting into that here in a little bit.
• 3:08:11
  I'm definitely going to be getting into that.
• 3:08:13
  Um currently that right to hold the current rights holder on
• 3:08:17
  record. That you can look up is Peter H
• 3:08:22
  Gilmore, but he cites that his reason for holding the rights.
• 3:08:27
  Is this right here because of his introduction?
• 3:08:32
  So really quickly Daniel, what's your question?
• 3:08:36
  Oh, I didn't have a question. I was saying it sounded like
• 3:08:39
  Brett asked a very valid question.
• 3:08:42
  Yeah, okay. Yeah, the the rights to the
• 3:08:46
  Satanic Bible actually. was given to the children of Anton
• 3:08:56
  LaVey um in the they court case that followed after his death.
• 3:09:07
  There was a court battle between Carla levey and Blanche Barton
• 3:09:12
  in which Blanche Barton produced a handwritten letter. supposedly
• 3:09:17
  a will stating that Anton had left her everything along the
• 3:09:23
  Xerxes everything and mixed out Carla or Xena.
• 3:09:27
  This will was thrown out of court, but the end result of the
• 3:09:32
  entire court proceedings was that Blanche Barton was awarded
• 3:09:37
  the actual organization Church Satan incorporation.
• 3:09:41
  So um that organization was given her but the children of
• 3:09:49
  Anton LaVey which included Carla levay his eldest daughter the
• 3:09:54
  Xena levay. Um, who was his middle daughter
• 3:09:56
  who left in 1990 and his youngest son are Xerxes carnaki
• 3:10:06
  levay They were all awarded the copyrights the physical
• 3:10:12
  properties. They pretty much the rest of the
• 3:10:16
  estate was given to them. now the problem here is that we find
• 3:10:24
  that Blanche Barton. because Xerxes was still just a toddler
• 3:10:32
  at this time. He was the youngest child.
• 3:10:34
  He was he was born. I believe 1994 just a few years
• 3:10:39
  before Anton died. He couldn't manage his portion
• 3:10:44
  of the estate at all. So all of that power went to
• 3:10:47
  Blanche Barton. now after Anton's left death Blanche
• 3:10:54
  Barton would have been the one to give Gilmore.
• 3:10:58
  And pegging petramia all the powers that they did and the
• 3:11:02
  permissions. as The Story Goes by the church Satan Harper
• 3:11:08
  Collins press approached um Peter Gilmore in 1994 or 1995
• 3:11:16
  that when he was the new high priest of the church Satan. to
• 3:11:23
  write what you see on the screen before you now the problem with
• 3:11:27
  that is the problem that I have with this is as a publisher
• 3:11:34
  myself as an author and that's a publisher Brett.
• 3:11:37
  I can assume you know this as well from copyright law.
• 3:11:42
  The publishing agency Harper Collins, press would not have
• 3:11:45
  had the authority to approach Peter Gilmore to write this
• 3:11:50
  because they would not have had the authority on their own to
• 3:11:54
  alter change or edit and Tom levate's books huge copyrights.
• 3:11:59
  Am I correct? Yep.
• 3:12:04
  That is correct. Okay, which means the only way
• 3:12:08
  an edit can happen to a book at all?
• 3:12:13
  When it's not by the original author it has to come from the
• 3:12:19
  original author or the the state the original author that means
• 3:12:24
  one of the people who own the copyrights to the book in this
• 3:12:30
  case it would have been. um, Carla Zina reserxes or because
• 3:12:37
  Xerxes was still a juvenile at this point in time.
• 3:12:43
  He would have been barely ten years old.
• 3:12:46
  As you can see 2005 he was born in 1994 is he would have been
• 3:12:51
  barely ten years old here. So he would not have had control
• 3:12:57
  over the state his mother Blanche Barton.
• 3:13:00
  Would have had control over this and would have been the one to
• 3:13:04
  give permission. For this that would be the truth
• 3:13:08
  of the matter. Am I correct Brett?
• 3:13:12
  And it sounds about right and didn't Blanche end up writing
• 3:13:16
  some books further on down the road.
• 3:13:18
  Yes. She's written several books,
• 3:13:20
  including uh, the secret life of Satanist and she's recently
• 3:13:24
  published a couple new books. All of this would have been well
• 3:13:30
  known but to the late person who doesn't know anything about
• 3:13:33
  publishing the story that they approached Peter Gilmore would
• 3:13:38
  make perfect sense, then they wouldn't know any different.
• 3:13:43
  So here's the fun thing. This is where I start getting
• 3:13:46
  into things one of the purposes of an introduction Brett.
• 3:13:50
  Can you tell me the purpose of an introduction to a book?
• 3:13:54
  Usually the kind of like us what for me at least it's like a
• 3:13:58
  small biography explains a little bit Where I Come From My
• 3:14:02
  Inspirations influences all that and would you say it's logical
• 3:14:08
  say that the introduction helps guide the reader into a certain
• 3:14:11
  mind frame. Yeah, it depends a different
• 3:14:16
  writers use the introduction as different things.
• 3:14:19
  I usually use it for more of a summary of myself.
• 3:14:22
  Okay? All right, but if you were like
• 3:14:25
  like say you were to write something or a book would you
• 3:14:30
  say it's sort of there to help guide that person into a mind
• 3:14:33
  frame into accepting what the book says.
• 3:14:36
  Yeah, people would most likely especially in the concept of
• 3:14:40
  Anthem. He would probably want people to
• 3:14:42
  understand to theological views and then work from there and
• 3:14:46
  Foundation. Yeah, it puts people in a
• 3:14:50
  specific mind frame. So we saw from the previous
• 3:14:53
  three introductions that the term atheism never shows up.
• 3:14:58
  Am I correct? That is correct.
• 3:15:02
  There's nowhere that would be something that would be
• 3:15:05
  mentioned and summaries or even introductions.
• 3:15:08
  It would be important for the person to understand where the
• 3:15:12
  state of mind is when the person's explaining and Building
• 3:15:15
  forward. So would it be safe to assume
• 3:15:18
  that if suddenly out of three previous introductions for
• 3:15:21
  sports introduction to suddenly change tact and start changing
• 3:15:26
  the Burbage that could easily change future readers.
• 3:15:30
  Into a new sense of Mind new way of looking at the book.
• 3:15:35
  Well, just to give a real simple example if Daniel decided
• 3:15:38
  tomorrow. You want to write a book and
• 3:15:40
  he's at his introduction summary.
• 3:15:42
  He's probably going to point out some of the important things and
• 3:15:46
  Foundations about his life Christianity get mentioned same
• 3:15:50
  with you you write books. So you're going to give people a
• 3:15:53
  framework of your personality who you are and what your state
• 3:15:57
  of mind is and you move forward. Yes, and I've had I've actually
• 3:16:02
  had Gap up guest authors actually write guest
• 3:16:06
  introductions for my book The Satanic Testament.
• 3:16:09
  I wrote my original introduction literally to help navigate
• 3:16:13
  people into what I was trying to say and you know, I was really
• 3:16:19
  fortunate that I have two other guest authors, um, when the
• 3:16:25
  later editions of the book came along they came in they they
• 3:16:29
  were so moved by my second edition and Third Edition that
• 3:16:32
  they added to it in a really wonderful way, you know would be
• 3:16:36
  a really good idea right now if you like put yourself big on the
• 3:16:40
  screen so you can show your book off to no one.
• 3:16:43
  Okay? Okay.
• 3:16:43
  All right, so give me one second here.
• 3:16:50
  So really quickly people go ahead and this is my book if
• 3:16:54
  it'll stop being blurry. Okay, so it's the satanic
• 3:16:59
  Testament. Let's go ahead and put this
• 3:17:02
  around so people can actually read the cover.
• 3:17:06
  It's a satanic Testament and you can buy this over on amazon.com.
• 3:17:10
  It's the $30 one that you want to get previous.
• 3:17:15
  This is actually published with my Publishing Company black
• 3:17:19
  plane press Um, which we created so we can actually lower the
• 3:17:24
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• 3:17:26
  through Lulu and it was over 60 dollars at the Third Edition.
• 3:17:30
  We were like, oh no that's good a little too high price.
• 3:17:33
  And so we started up our own publishing company to drop the
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• 3:17:41
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• 3:17:49
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  You might want to later on take a picture of you holding it up
• 3:18:02
  without the blur that we can just shoot that up on the screen
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  no matter that's a pretty good idea.
• 3:18:07
  That's pretty good idea. Yeah, so but all right.
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  So we're gonna go ahead and we're going to get back to this.
• 3:18:17
  This is a this is where people will find it.
• 3:18:23
  Very interesting. So we are here in Peter
• 3:18:26
  Gilmore's opening to the Satanic Bible and we just saw that in
• 3:18:33
  nowhere in any other previous introductions.
• 3:18:36
  Was atheism ever mentioned? Can people see how many times
• 3:18:43
  it's dropped here in his introduction?
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  Unfortunately, I'm blind is a Batman.
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  I rely on you and Daniel to be my it says we have four matches.
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  He drops it into this. Um Into this four times.
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  It's really freaking. Yeah, it's really fucking funny.
• 3:19:15
  You can to see and I'm gonna click back into that.
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  Yeah, that's really seem like you would expect if he wanted to
• 3:19:24
  be an atheist. He would spend more time on
• 3:19:27
  those type of topics. Not so much.
• 3:19:30
  It's right in the very first prep paragraph.
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  I was in a vowed atheist right there.
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  He says I was. I wasn't about age.
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  Yes at the age of 13 when I was an avowed atheist.
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  Well, there you go. That's past tense right there
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  guy. Yeah, and he says it right here.
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  I knew that he uses atheists again.
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  I would knew that atheist was no longer sufficient as a
• 3:20:00
  designation for myself. What?
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  And here's the thing. I'm gonna be showing this later
• 3:20:06
  here very shortly. Actually.
• 3:20:09
  He still refers to himself as an atheist.
• 3:20:11
  So right here this whole past tense that he was no longer
• 3:20:14
  sufficient is complete garbage. And so we move on. to the next
• 3:20:22
  one he Here's one. He's flat out saying Satanism is
• 3:20:27
  for atheists. The philosophy presented in it
• 3:20:32
  being the Satanic Bible is an integrated hold not a
• 3:20:36
  smorgasbord from which one can pick and choose.
• 3:20:39
  It is meant only for a select few who are Epicurean pragmatic
• 3:20:45
  worldly atheistic, fiercely individualistic and mirror
• 3:20:50
  materialistic. A rational Darkly poetic and
• 3:20:56
  here's where the final one. It's actually in the same thing
• 3:20:58
  the same paragraph they maybe there there may be fellow
• 3:21:03
  Travelers atheists misanthropes humanists pre-thinkers who only
• 3:21:09
  partially reflect themselves. Who see only a partial
• 3:21:13
  reflection of themselves in this show Stone?
• 3:21:19
  Right, so but the line set above he said that just simply wasn't
• 3:21:25
  sufficient enough and why isn't it sufficient because he
• 3:21:29
  believed in the Supernatural and black magic.
• 3:21:31
  He couldn't fit in the pigs and hole of atheism because of all
• 3:21:35
  those mad. No, this is him referring to
• 3:21:37
  himself. This is Peter Gilmore talking
• 3:21:40
  about himself. Oh, not not Anton LaVey in that
• 3:21:46
  in those original contexts. He's referring to himself.
• 3:21:55
  I knew that hey what it says is I knew that atheist was no
• 3:21:59
  longer sufficient designation for myself.
• 3:22:08
  That's what he was identifying himself as an atheist.
• 3:22:13
  Not Antone away. He doesn't identify Anton obey
• 3:22:16
  as an atheist. That's not in this moment.
• 3:22:18
  He doesn't identify Antone away the identifies the philosophy.
• 3:22:23
  of satanism as atheism Yeah, you know I could I can kind of see
• 3:22:30
  and what mine here in Daniel's opinion on this as well.
• 3:22:34
  I could see why a lot of atheists might be attracted
• 3:22:37
  towards Satanism not just because of the Satanist thing,
• 3:22:41
  but atheists one of their most major problems outside their
• 3:22:45
  position as they don't do well in community.
• 3:22:48
  They they don't have like a community or are set up where
• 3:22:52
  they can hang out together as where you guys establish that
• 3:22:56
  you guys got your own thing going.
• 3:22:58
  Thank you. Well, I think I think that
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  atheism and Satanism are very similar because really what it
• 3:23:08
  Satan say in the garden. He said You shall be his Gods
• 3:23:12
  knowing good and evil and you shall not die.
• 3:23:16
  And that's really what atheists are all about is they decide
• 3:23:21
  what is right and wrong, you know, they're all a bunch of
• 3:23:23
  subjective moralists. So they get to decide was right
• 3:23:27
  and wrong and they're all really interested in science because
• 3:23:31
  they think that that's the key to eternal life.
• 3:23:33
  So they're trying to not die, you know, and well, I'm really
• 3:23:38
  quickly and I'm gonna disagree with what was said in the garden
• 3:23:41
  right here. There's really no comparison
• 3:23:44
  between atheists and Satanist because as you said you show no
• 3:23:48
  or what was the quote again, go ahead and say that again, You
• 3:23:53
  shall be as God's knowing good and Eva what first he said he
• 3:23:56
  shall not die because she said if we the fruit then we'll die
• 3:24:00
  that. No, you shall not die.
• 3:24:02
  You shall be as God's knowing good and evil, so there's three
• 3:24:04
  Temptations. Go ahead.
• 3:24:05
  Well, the thing is is we believe that God told the first lie that
• 3:24:10
  he told Adam or in within that day.
• 3:24:12
  You shall surely die. He's telling Adam that the
• 3:24:16
  moment he eats of these fruits that he's going to physically
• 3:24:18
  die, which didn't happen the way we look at it is, you know,
• 3:24:22
  Satan the serpent which by the way really quickly it wasn't
• 3:24:26
  identified till much later in different books that the serpent
• 3:24:30
  in the garden was supposedly Satan that up until then in the
• 3:24:36
  Book of Genesis. The serpent was just a serpent.
• 3:24:38
  It was just a snake and we can actually see afterwards that God
• 3:24:42
  curses it to Slither on its belly for all of its life eating
• 3:24:47
  dirt. So it was just supposedly
• 3:24:50
  supposed to be originally an animal. um But what we see here
• 3:24:56
  is that he says you will have an understanding of what good and
• 3:25:01
  evil is you'll able be able to tell the difference.
• 3:25:07
  Right when you when you hear yeah, you said that you take it
• 3:25:11
  as a I don't want to get you too far off topic that you said
• 3:25:14
  because I said this day you shall surely die.
• 3:25:17
  Now. I know that you've educated
• 3:25:20
  yourself from Christianity and you read it and probably a lot
• 3:25:23
  smarter than some of the fiends of Brandon too.
• 3:25:26
  But you do you do realize that at least biblically it teaches
• 3:25:31
  that there's two forms of death, right?
• 3:25:34
  Well, yeah, I do know that but also I know that it's very
• 3:25:38
  difficult to point out where it teaches that.
• 3:25:42
  The Bible because it doesn't really it just just states that
• 3:25:46
  you can die. And in this in in this
• 3:25:50
  particular instance, we got to remember the Book of Genesis is
• 3:25:53
  the first book within the entire scriptural Bible.
• 3:25:57
  So this is your first introduction to the whole setup.
• 3:26:04
  And nowhere in this first moments does it say that there
• 3:26:08
  is a difference between physical death and spiritual death.
• 3:26:12
  It doesn't identify that now I'm gonna go on record here and say
• 3:26:16
  I understand that the Holy Bible the Christian Bible was
• 3:26:22
  originally translated through three different languages just
• 3:26:27
  to get to Latin. In order to be a translated
• 3:26:32
  further into English as well as other Latin based languages and
• 3:26:37
  in doing so there is a lot of context that is lost we go from
• 3:26:43
  Aramaic to Hebrew to Greek. Then to Latin there's words and
• 3:26:51
  those languages that do not exist in any in each other and
• 3:26:55
  there's words in those languages that do not exist in the English
• 3:26:58
  language. So we lose quite a bit of
• 3:27:00
  information. We have to word ourselves very
• 3:27:04
  differently in order to understand what is being said.
• 3:27:08
  I understand that. But nowhere in the modern
• 3:27:14
  context of this portion of the Bible this early on in the
• 3:27:18
  Bible. Does it differentiate a
• 3:27:21
  spiritual death from a physical death?
• 3:27:25
  Alright, well, we could talk about it later during an open
• 3:27:29
  discussion. Yeah, that would definitely be a
• 3:27:31
  good one to go into. I got a lot of things I can
• 3:27:34
  throw but I don't want to throw you out of your topic matter
• 3:27:37
  that you're trying to do here. All right, so we're gonna be
• 3:27:40
  going into the last little portion of this.
• 3:27:42
  This is where things get really interesting.
• 3:27:44
  So what you see here in front of you is Peter H Gilmore's book.
• 3:27:51
  The satanic scriptures. This is the book that he wrote.
• 3:27:55
  And it's only one book He's only ever written one book on the
• 3:28:00
  subject of satanism. You know versus Anton Lewis five
• 3:28:04
  books. So let's let's do our little
• 3:28:08
  thing here. Wow.
• 3:28:15
  What we see here is seven mentions.
• 3:28:18
  Now first off when we go back to his introduction.
• 3:28:21
  We see that he drops atheism into the Kong versation.
• 3:28:28
  No less than four times. That's almost that's almost the
• 3:28:32
  same amount of times in this one introduction. versus all of the
• 3:28:37
  books that Anton LaVey only less by one however in this one book
• 3:28:45
  he creates he mentions it more times than all of Anton ways
• 3:28:50
  other mentions put together. How screwed up is that?
• 3:28:59
  Well, how is he mentioning it? I mean as he mentioning it we're
• 3:29:03
  about to get into that. We're definitely about to get go
• 3:29:06
  ahead and get into that. So we're gonna go into the first
• 3:29:09
  one. The first one is a mention of
• 3:29:12
  atheists and he's talking about Dimitri.
• 3:29:16
  Just I can't even pronounce his name.
• 3:29:19
  He's a Russian. He's a Russian music composer
• 3:29:22
  who was an atheist. All right.
• 3:29:25
  Really has nothing to do with Satanism right there.
• 3:29:29
  However, we get into here Rebels Without a Cause.
• 3:29:34
  And he starts talking about the Additionally the tapestry of
• 3:29:39
  Satanism cannot be stretched to promote criminal behavior and
• 3:29:44
  Mindless hedonism. Well, I'm glad that he's
• 3:29:47
  mentioning that here because that's certainly what the
• 3:29:50
  satanic temple. Has done these ideas are at odds
• 3:29:55
  with the logical life and celebrating demeanor life
• 3:29:59
  celebrating demeanor of the skeptical Epicurean atheism.
• 3:30:03
  That is our axialmatic philosophy.
• 3:30:06
  So right there, he's immediately identifying the philosophy of
• 3:30:10
  Satanism as being atheistic. Now this is where really gets.
• 3:30:20
  harsh accepting the axiomatic premise that no gods exist as
• 3:30:27
  independent Supernatural entities means that satanists.
• 3:30:33
  Are de facto atheists? He's literally calling Satanism.
• 3:30:37
  Atheism right here. Well, there it is.
• 3:30:43
  You know that he's literally doing that.
• 3:30:45
  Now what I am pointing out all of this for Is when we look back
• 3:30:52
  at all of Anton Lewis other literature.
• 3:30:55
  He never once says anything like this this language never shows
• 3:31:01
  up in the Satanic Bible, which is if anything the primary book
• 3:31:06
  that everybody will read first. It never shows up in the Satanic
• 3:31:12
  rituals, which is the direct companion to this tank Bible nor
• 3:31:16
  does it show up in the satanic witch?
• 3:31:19
  Well, you know what else too, and I think this is a totally
• 3:31:22
  fair point is that if Anton had said anything like this, he
• 3:31:28
  probably would have quoted it right here.
• 3:31:30
  Yeah, that was that that is a very fair point.
• 3:31:33
  That is a very fair point because why would you know right
• 3:31:37
  here? This is him chain.
• 3:31:39
  We are seeing out of his introduction and his book we're
• 3:31:45
  seeing him doing something here. And what we're seeing is
• 3:31:51
  literally what Blanche Barton was talking about.
• 3:31:57
  And undermining of the philosophy in a rewriting of it.
• 3:32:02
  Mind you these are articles that he started writing when he came
• 3:32:06
  into the church Satan. He started publishing this stuff
• 3:32:10
  and his magazine the black Flame.
• 3:32:14
  And so this is stuff that was slowly being poisoned pilled. in
• 3:32:20
  over a period of years and then suddenly bomb dropped in this
• 3:32:27
  book. We see here another mention of
• 3:32:31
  the term atheists. So to this is something that
• 3:32:35
  people are gonna laugh at I love this one.
• 3:32:37
  So to distinguish ourselves from atheists, so certainly he's
• 3:32:41
  walking things back a little bit who simply reject God as
• 3:32:45
  non-existent. We call ourselves.
• 3:32:47
  Iheus. With our own healthy ego at the
• 3:32:51
  center of our perspective. Now what an ipheus is for those
• 3:32:57
  who don't understand. It's supposed this this whole
• 3:33:00
  idea thing remember when this was going on and it did not fly
• 3:33:04
  very far a lot of satanists even in the church Satan rejected
• 3:33:07
  this pretty hands down. Um, it's basically saying that
• 3:33:11
  we are our own Gods at our own center of our universe, which is
• 3:33:15
  one of the things that we do sort of see. and accept but yeah
• 3:33:20
  it this whole atheist thing did not fly but this is the next
• 3:33:25
  time he mentions atheism. But I've got a question about
• 3:33:31
  this guy because I'm looking at some information that goes along
• 3:33:35
  with what you're reading. He said Satanism begins with
• 3:33:39
  atheism. We begin with the universe and
• 3:33:42
  say it's indifferent. There's no God.
• 3:33:44
  There's no devil. No one cares.
• 3:33:46
  Now if you don't mind me asking because I I know your views are
• 3:33:50
  totally different than him. But if you were to actually
• 3:33:53
  argue his position, how would you argue that love even came
• 3:33:58
  into existence if love never existed with nothing?
• 3:34:02
  Well, I wouldn't even first off we satanists would not even
• 3:34:06
  approach the concept of love. We look at we look at love as
• 3:34:10
  one of the as something completely different.
• 3:34:14
  We don't deny that love exists. But when we're talking about
• 3:34:18
  love in a lot of Senses, we start going into the carnal
• 3:34:22
  nature man. We start talking about lust so
• 3:34:25
  first off, I wouldn't even approach subject of love with
• 3:34:28
  him second off. My argument would be that
• 3:34:31
  Satanism does not start with the universe.
• 3:34:34
  It does not start with anything like that.
• 3:34:36
  It starts with the person themselves. um and them as an
• 3:34:41
  individual and that's where I would lead my conversation from
• 3:34:46
  in. My my debate with him is that
• 3:34:48
  Satanism does not start with the universe like but he supposedly
• 3:34:52
  says there it starts with you as the individual and how you
• 3:34:56
  approached life. So all right, then it would have
• 3:35:02
  to be the start with something the sentient alive and
• 3:35:06
  self-aware right exactly. Exactly and if we are supposed
• 3:35:13
  to be the gods of our own personal universe, and we see
• 3:35:16
  ourselves as our own personal deities, how can we how can we
• 3:35:22
  claim that we do not exist? I I don't mean to be Captain
• 3:35:29
  Obvious here. But we you and I and Daniel we
• 3:35:33
  both know all three of us know what the definition of a God Is
• 3:35:37
  So for someone a human to What would be the opposite of
• 3:35:42
  anthropomorphosize deify yourself?
• 3:35:45
  Right? Yes self deification.
• 3:35:47
  Isn't that self a self deception though?
• 3:35:51
  That's a lie. I mean, it sounds neat.
• 3:35:53
  It sounds like it looked great on a birthday card, but we don't
• 3:35:57
  become God because we feel like well, okay.
• 3:36:00
  Yeah, I definitely get where you're coming from.
• 3:36:02
  And yeah, I have to agree when I'm looking at it from that
• 3:36:05
  perspective. I agree with you but we
• 3:36:07
  satanists. So do you find we basically say
• 3:36:12
  that we take control of our own lives that nothing.
• 3:36:14
  It's like a basically saying we're a responsible for our own
• 3:36:18
  actions and nothing happens by accident that we didn't cause
• 3:36:23
  ourselves, you know, we're responsible for our own really
• 3:36:28
  cute. That's great.
• 3:36:32
  I rename you Thumper. Or yeah.
• 3:36:38
  Sorry, that was my dog the scratch and he's like what
• 3:36:42
  wouldn't it be better though. I mean wouldn't it made more
• 3:36:47
  rational logical sense of Mr. Gilmore would have said I'm a
• 3:36:51
  human animal and I hold myself responsible and accountable and
• 3:36:56
  don't roll the whole deification bed and to it because then it
• 3:37:01
  just starts sound and gooky. You know what I mean?
• 3:37:04
  Well any religion was gonna have it's cookie moments.
• 3:37:07
  There's a lot of things even in Satanism that to the outside
• 3:37:10
  perspective is going to sound kooky crazy and just be like
• 3:37:14
  what But the thing is you can you get that in Buddhism you get
• 3:37:19
  that in Christianity I come on. How many times have you been to
• 3:37:24
  church and somebody says something completely off the
• 3:37:26
  wall and you're just like what the world right?
• 3:37:30
  I'm usually the type of person that if I see whether it's a
• 3:37:36
  religious person or nonbeliever do something that's totally
• 3:37:40
  blown my mind. I usually say something I don't
• 3:37:44
  go. Oh that religious person over to
• 3:37:46
  just said something. Absolutely insane.
• 3:37:48
  Let me go the other direction now, I usually I feel I always
• 3:37:51
  got to say something. Yeah anytime I start thinking
• 3:37:56
  about cookiness and religion. I I start thinking of Ray
• 3:37:59
  Stevens song the Mississippi Squirrel.
• 3:38:01
  Yeah, there were squirrel starts running up people's pant legs
• 3:38:07
  and they start jumping in the aisles and of the of the church
• 3:38:11
  and yeah one guys like something's got a hold on me.
• 3:38:14
  Yeah. Other some people thought he had
• 3:38:18
  religion other people added thought he had a demon that sort
• 3:38:22
  of thing. It's just kooky and fun in that
• 3:38:24
  sense. So whenever I hear people
• 3:38:26
  talking about being kooky, that's what I think of but going
• 3:38:30
  back on topic. Yeah, you're right.
• 3:38:32
  You know, you can't just start off and dive into the thing to
• 3:38:37
  the part where we say that we are our own Gods, you know that
• 3:38:41
  we are our own deities in our own lives because to an outside
• 3:38:46
  person. They're not gonna understand
• 3:38:48
  that. It's not something that they're
• 3:38:51
  gonna understand. What would what people would
• 3:38:54
  understand better is the part where we say responsibility to
• 3:38:57
  the responsible that we are responsible for our own actions
• 3:39:02
  and in actions that nothing happens in our lives that we
• 3:39:07
  don't influence that we don't cause to happen on some level
• 3:39:11
  some some way or some fashion. That would be a much better
• 3:39:16
  approach to introducing that concept.
• 3:39:21
  Why should somebody though? I mean we were talking about
• 3:39:24
  this a little bit earlier. Just one more stab at it here.
• 3:39:28
  Okay, if someone is directly calling themself an atheist,
• 3:39:32
  then why are they even claiming its valuable or important to be
• 3:39:38
  accountable to yourself? Anyway, what if you want to be a
• 3:39:40
  real bastard? What if I look at Jeffrey
• 3:39:44
  Dahmer? He said that it if there's no if
• 3:39:46
  there's nothing there, you know, spiritually to conduct our
• 3:39:50
  morals or help guide our morals. Then what the fuck is the
• 3:39:55
  purpose of it, Jeffrey Donald Echo that statement perfectly
• 3:39:58
  and he went around eating people.
• 3:40:01
  An area didn't even have the common courtesy to use ketchup
• 3:40:05
  and mustard. I think he's probably must stick
• 3:40:09
  the blood for catch up and mustard but you know, I mean I
• 3:40:13
  don't get me wrong. I've literally eaten with
• 3:40:15
  cannibals myself. I Have eaten long Pig.
• 3:40:19
  I didn't know what I was eating at the time, but and I was only
• 3:40:22
  a little kid. There's a long story behind that
• 3:40:24
  and it's a funny story. But I I I've been there.
• 3:40:29
  I've actually eaten human. I'm not going to sugarcoat that
• 3:40:34
  I've actually done that as a small child.
• 3:40:36
  And this was in Pop-up, New Guinea.
• 3:40:41
  You know. yeah, when people don't have spiritual morality,
• 3:40:48
  it's really weird because you hear so many people say you
• 3:40:52
  don't need to religion have morality and get I see so many
• 3:40:57
  people who call themselves atheists.
• 3:41:01
  Who have no moral compass and Jeffrey Dahmer called it out
• 3:41:05
  perfectly. It's really weird.
• 3:41:11
  It really really is weird. And here I am I run the
• 3:41:16
  organization that says morality is a lie.
• 3:41:19
  And I have a lot to say about this.
• 3:41:21
  I've actually gone round and round get them.
• 3:41:25
  Oh, we're already going really late.
• 3:41:28
  And this yeah. Yeah, let's go ahead.
• 3:41:31
  Let's say let's bench this topic of conversation for another live
• 3:41:35
  stream where we can actually dive into that because like
• 3:41:38
  Daniel said we are going really long and I want this up here
• 3:41:42
  very shortly. So we're going to continue
• 3:41:45
  forward. Here it is.
• 3:41:50
  Here is one of the big ones right here.
• 3:41:52
  Do you remember when I said and I'm gonna throw up a ticker
• 3:41:56
  really quickly. to do right here. and none of Anton Libby's
• 3:42:08
  books None of them. None of his writings anywhere.
• 3:42:16
  No one so forth. We quickly have a person wanting
• 3:42:20
  to come in Wesley. I'm sorry.
• 3:42:22
  We're not taking anybody in on the live stream anymore.
• 3:42:26
  Really especially people that we don't know.
• 3:42:29
  Thank you for wanting to jump in.
• 3:42:32
  But I hope you're enjoying it. um And nowhere in any of his
• 3:42:41
  books any of his magazine articles interviews or anything
• 3:42:44
  else. Does he ever use the word?
• 3:42:47
  I am an atheist. You never uses that sentence.
• 3:42:52
  and yet right here on page 214 in Peter Gilmore satanic
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  scriptures. He found out says I am an
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  atheist. Mr. Oh my goodness the irony of
• 3:43:10
  the topic we just had and who came in I just looked in private
• 3:43:14
  chat. This guy here thinks he's a
• 3:43:16
  second coming of Christ that's good.
• 3:43:18
  You didn't bring him up on the screen because he would have
• 3:43:21
  started throwing Fireballs at all of us that have been rough
• 3:43:24
  So Daniel, are you still there? Here.
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  I'm actually looking in the private chat.
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  Yeah, I'm here. This guy has jumped into my room
• 3:43:35
  a couple times in the past and he starts going into it and he
• 3:43:39
  starts talking. We're going to get oh my God,
• 3:43:42
  he's in I'm gonna throw this out.
• 3:43:47
  I'm gonna tell people this it's free book of Buddy.
• 3:43:50
  You are going to get 32,523 in Muslim dollars and our branded
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  with the barcode called Omni and get a skin disease of gray scabs
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  on your faces and eat the Flesh of children under the oppression
• 3:44:10
  of the Chinese Invaders, and then you will fall dead in the
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  streets when Jesus says, I do not know you Yeah, wow.
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  Hey, yeah. Yeah security Wesley Curry needs
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  to go bye-bye. Yeah, so many comment.
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  So as we're about to complete things in Jesus will be on his
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  way according to him and after we get this done do we want to
• 3:44:47
  schedule something for next week, or at least you can talk
• 3:44:50
  about it tomorrow or something? I know I know my girlies sitting
• 3:44:57
  back here and she's like staring laser beans in the back of my
• 3:45:00
  head. I'm saying okay.
• 3:45:03
  You need to wrap this up. Let's do it.
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  All right, so we see here he flat out.
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  So this is what's called This is actually buried in the satanic
• 3:45:16
  scriptures now as everybody knows. there is most satanic
• 3:45:23
  organizations have their own various worms rules, but it all
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  stems from Anton ladies nine static statements 11 satanic
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  rules of the earth and 9th Panic since What a lot of people don't
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  realize is that Peter H Gilmore wrote his own version and that's
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  what you're looking at here, and he didn't formally name it.
• 3:45:47
  But a lot of people call it the satanic assertions after this
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  little line right here. where he's says, um Let us list
• 3:45:57
  several assertions and I'm not going to go into that.
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  I'm not gonna read all the assertions or anything.
• 3:46:03
  But what I need what I like to point out right here is right
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  here on the fifth assertion. He flat out says there are no
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  Gods. I am an atheist.
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  And then in a couple of assertions later, he says I am
• 3:46:16
  an atheist. Michael said before that didn't
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  like very far. So yeah.
• 3:46:23
  He says in this in this book very handsome.
• 3:46:27
  I am an atheist. Yeah.
• 3:46:32
  Moving on here. He goes on talks about a hiss
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  since we are skeptical atheists. We do not believe in anything
• 3:46:41
  Supernatural. I'm sorry, if they don't believe
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  in anything Supernatural then how did we end up with them
• 3:46:52
  performing curses? That's right.
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  We didn't want to naturally and never would have had would have
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  unless we had really been forced to do it.
• 3:47:07
  We put a generalized curse on all those who helped.
• 3:47:14
  To get rid of tilghar and they've either a curse will do
• 3:47:19
  one we perform human sacrifices by proxy and I say the
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  destruction of human beings who would let's say create an
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  antagonistic situation towards us in the form of curses and
• 3:47:31
  hexes. If they don't believe in curse
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  if they don't believe in anything Supernatural, why are
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  they doing curses and hexes? exactly You know, um, you know
• 3:47:43
  that that's that's the thing that people don't seem to get
• 3:47:48
  they want to call themselves atheists and whatnot.
• 3:47:51
  They want to say that we do not believe in the Supernatural or
• 3:47:55
  and the church Satan actually have this on their website right
• 3:47:57
  now that they there is no occultism in the Church of Satan
• 3:48:01
  that there never was I'm sorry go watch the Thomas the Devil's
• 3:48:05
  Mask. I can't show you those ritual
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  segments here because I will get slapped because there is nudity
• 3:48:13
  there is boobies. There is all sorts of things
• 3:48:17
  going on there. It's just I know you can
• 3:48:21
  actually watch it on YouTube, but I don't want to get slapped
• 3:48:25
  in this live stream on YouTube. So yeah.
• 3:48:30
  I don't want to watch it. Anyway, well, it's actually a
• 3:48:34
  really interesting documentary. I think you would you find it.
• 3:48:36
  Very interesting. Oh boobies in the rituals and
• 3:48:39
  all that stuff, right? So this is this is a um another
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  I don't know if it's like the final words in in the book, but
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  it's talking about I believe this is either written by Peggy
• 3:48:55
  and gerania um or Blanche Spartan, it's called noctrine
• 3:49:01
  The Devil's the double born and it's talking about Peter Gilmore
• 3:49:05
  and giving his life story and it says when he first declared his
• 3:49:13
  atheism and he says he has a clear memory of officially
• 3:49:17
  declaring his atheism on the day of his First Holy Communion at
• 3:49:21
  the age of eight. Peter Gilmore has been an
• 3:49:27
  official atheist since he was eight years old.
• 3:49:32
  What is he doing in Satanism? Satanism is a religion pure in a
• 3:49:36
  religion. You're not an atheist.
• 3:49:39
  It seems like he doesn't understand what Satanism is
• 3:49:43
  supposed to be. Exactly before he is a complete
• 3:49:48
  liar. exactly I don't know. Thank you.
• 3:49:51
  Thank you. Yeah, that's what I'm showing
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  here. And so we finally come down.
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  All right, so we're back to the beginning that was that was
• 3:50:01
  literally it. We literally just saw all that.
• 3:50:04
  So what we're looking at in all of this is you know, I'm gonna
• 3:50:11
  go ahead and Close this out. Or cancel.
• 3:50:18
  I'm just stop sharing. So what we were looking in all
• 3:50:27
  of that is literally this. This part that I have
• 3:50:32
  highlighted right in front of you.
• 3:50:35
  That there was an undermining attempt to rewrite an apologize
• 3:50:40
  for Anton Lewis philosophy when we read the satanic Scriptures.
• 3:50:45
  It is completely antithetical. To everything that we read in
• 3:50:51
  the previous five books. by Anton away It is a complete
• 3:50:55
  polar opposite. It is a literally almost a love
• 3:51:00
  letter to atheism. And Blanche Barton calls it out
• 3:51:04
  right here. where she says that, you know, she hints that someone
• 3:51:10
  is trying to undermine by rewriting and apologizing for
• 3:51:17
  What is you guys take on that? Whichever one wants to go first,
• 3:51:26
  so I want to make sure I'm understanding this.
• 3:51:30
  So you're talking about what his daughter Anton said.
• 3:51:35
  Anton's lover Blanche Barden. Okay, that's what this letter is
• 3:51:41
  from and Here's the actual letter.
• 3:51:44
  She wrote a letter on January 23rd few months after he died to
• 3:51:49
  a woman named Tammy Jans saying. And this is the page in question
• 3:51:53
  and you can actually see her signature on this page.
• 3:51:57
  All right. This is Anton's former lover his
• 3:52:00
  final lover final lover. Okay?
• 3:52:04
  The one who had his son. Okay.
• 3:52:07
  And what she say? Oh, hang on.
• 3:52:18
  And she says I'll bring it up right here.
• 3:52:23
  She's talking about being criticized in the announcement
• 3:52:26
  on November 7th. After Antonio Bay passed away.
• 3:52:31
  Then she flat out said that he did indeed believe in a devil
• 3:52:37
  and she was criticized by another church.
• 3:52:39
  Satan number named old wolf. And so she's going off about
• 3:52:44
  that in this letter and she literally says that yeah, you're
• 3:52:51
  damn right that he actually believed in Satan and she says I
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  don't think it should ever be undermined by trying to rewrite
• 3:53:01
  or apologize for it. That is very unique wording.
• 3:53:08
  Who was trying to undermine or rewrite it?
• 3:53:12
  Oh, I mean seems pretty obvious the same guy that is exactly she
• 3:53:20
  rebranded seems to me that she had a foreknowledge.
• 3:53:24
  Of something that was going to happen.
• 3:53:28
  I mean given everything that we just seeing.
• 3:53:32
  Independently of itself would mean nothing but when we look at
• 3:53:35
  that letter and we look at everything else.
• 3:53:38
  Does it not seem that she's had a Warren College of a planned
• 3:53:43
  attempt to rewrite? the philosophy seems pretty
• 3:53:48
  likely. I mean, it would be quite a
• 3:53:52
  coincidence if that wasn't the case.
• 3:53:56
  Yeah, right your opinion on us. Yeah, it seems like she was very
• 3:54:01
  irritated with what they were doing.
• 3:54:03
  And I mean clearly comes out says he did believe in the
• 3:54:07
  devil. Yeah, um it definitely and
• 3:54:12
  here's one final thing that I'd like to point out to people the
• 3:54:16
  church Satan likes to throw a term around that is meant as an
• 3:54:21
  insult towards Satanist. They like to call people who are
• 3:54:26
  theistic satanists devil worshipers. and they like to
• 3:54:31
  throw this term around as an insult to say that they are
• 3:54:35
  separate from devil worshipers that they're separate from these
• 3:54:38
  theistics that a devil worshiper.
• 3:54:41
  They use the term much in the same way as people might call
• 3:54:46
  somebody and not see or the other and word.
• 3:54:50
  I find it very funny because in satanas the devil's Mass
• 3:54:53
  antonovae had this to say We feel that there is no reason why
• 3:55:00
  these people shouldn't just flip the coin completely over and
• 3:55:04
  simply call themselves. What religion has clown them for
• 3:55:07
  many many years call them devil worshipers or Disciples of evil
• 3:55:12
  or satanists. Of course.
• 3:55:13
  It's very hard for first name and uncomplementary label on
• 3:55:17
  themselves. So this is a very important
• 3:55:23
  thing to point out as a final point of reference before we
• 3:55:27
  leave. the Church of Satan has gone out of their way.
• 3:55:35
  To belittle attack and undermine the very philosophy of Antony
• 3:55:42
  and attack anybody who would stand up to defend it.
• 3:55:46
  Brett you've seen that they did that with me.
• 3:55:48
  They've done that with you just for even wanting to question
• 3:55:52
  them. And the evidence that I've shown
• 3:55:56
  here tonight. In my opinion shows a very clear
• 3:56:00
  cut deliberate plot. to Aunt to rewrite satanism any final
• 3:56:10
  thoughts on that statement right there from you guys.
• 3:56:13
  I've told you repeatedly I feel as though the atheism hijacked
• 3:56:17
  Satanism and I I can't really I don't know what kind of answer
• 3:56:23
  or solution I can give you on this.
• 3:56:25
  I mean, it's it sounds so broken apart and pieces and and plus
• 3:56:30
  there's such hostility and then fighting.
• 3:56:33
  You can't even get these people to the table that have a
• 3:56:36
  friendly conversation and just learn to say we may not agree.
• 3:56:42
  But you know, we might have some common ground.
• 3:56:45
  Maybe we like the Evil Dead series or something.
• 3:56:47
  You know, I I don't understand this type of behavior and
• 3:56:50
  personality. Yeah.
• 3:56:53
  Yeah. So my thoughts are that.
• 3:56:56
  This is just something that I've already believed before we even
• 3:57:01
  started this I've always as long as I've looked into a cultism
• 3:57:06
  and Anton LaVey and everything. I've always thought that he was
• 3:57:09
  a real Satanist from everything that he talked about.
• 3:57:12
  I knew that he did actual rituals.
• 3:57:15
  I was like this dude really believes in Satan.
• 3:57:18
  He's a Satanist and You know, that's why I get so frustrated
• 3:57:22
  with. atheists when I talk about Satanism and they're like, oh
• 3:57:26
  Anton LaVey was an atheist and satanists are really just
• 3:57:30
  atheist and I'm like maybe some are now because they're a bunch
• 3:57:34
  of larpers, but I just think it's ridiculous and I mean this
• 3:57:39
  what we've talked about I've learned a lot you and I think
• 3:57:43
  this just solidifies what I already believed as far as I'm
• 3:57:48
  concerned and it's really unfortunate because it's like
• 3:57:51
  why don't you guys just keep calling yourself atheists?
• 3:57:54
  Why do you keep having to like Rebrand and and call yourself
• 3:57:57
  other stuff that you're not exactly, you know, like if
• 3:58:01
  you're an atheist be an atheist if you're Satanist, but you're
• 3:58:05
  really an atheist like why are you just creating confusion?
• 3:58:08
  So exactly yeah. Yeah, why might be question And
• 3:58:13
  this is my big question. Is like what is it that atheists
• 3:58:18
  are trying to achieve in the long run by invading religions?
• 3:58:23
  What is it that they're trying to achieve?
• 3:58:25
  I know that they want to do away with religion.
• 3:58:27
  I know they don't like people who are religious.
• 3:58:31
  But why why not just separate themselves from that why not
• 3:58:35
  just go out and if they're moral person whether they're an
• 3:58:39
  atheist or not and just live a good life be happy in their
• 3:58:43
  life. Why do they need to seek to make
• 3:58:45
  other people unhappy by devaluating them?
• 3:58:49
  I mean I can I can guess that maybe their worldview is just so
• 3:58:54
  empty that they just kind of have to find stuff like this to
• 3:58:58
  do to try and fill time and amuse themselves.
• 3:59:01
  I mean that's kind of being pretty uncharitable.
• 3:59:04
  But you know, that's I don't know.
• 3:59:07
  It's just so silly to me like I won't know until the day of
• 3:59:13
  judgment maybe but yeah, I think it's very silly though.
• 3:59:18
  Yeah, I guess I would say, you know, we watched that video that
• 3:59:23
  documentary where he said. Yeah, I believe that there's a
• 3:59:26
  God and I believe there's a double in the devil was the God
• 3:59:30
  of this world and all this stuff.
• 3:59:31
  He also said he had no hostility towards Christians.
• 3:59:35
  Well, that's not what atheists want.
• 3:59:37
  And unfortunately, there is another quote that Anton said
• 3:59:41
  where I think that atheists come in.
• 3:59:44
  He said that Satanism has been the biggest businessmaker for
• 3:59:48
  the churches and Christianity. Well atheist want to get rid of
• 3:59:51
  the concept of God and if they're a part of a group that
• 3:59:55
  actually believes in the devil, then that's promoting the
• 3:59:59
  concept of God, even though it's the dark side as some people
• 4:00:02
  represent it. So they're gonna want to get rid
• 4:00:05
  of the devil and God take out two birds with one stone.
• 4:00:08
  And because you can't have one without the other right?
• 4:00:13
  Exactly. Now that makes perfect sense.
• 4:00:17
  I want to say thank you to everybody.
• 4:00:18
  We're going to go ahead and wrap this up and I'm going to say
• 4:00:21
  thank you for all of our viewers tonight for joining us in this
• 4:00:25
  four hour livestream. We've had a very interesting fun
• 4:00:29
  time. We had members of STS on we had
• 4:00:33
  left-wing political activists. Come on trying to derail our
• 4:00:38
  talking our Flow of conversation we've had apparently fundamental
• 4:00:46
  Christian lacos trying to get on with us and leaving some fun
• 4:00:51
  comments in the comment threads. Yeah.
• 4:00:57
  Oh Wesley's not a Christian. He is God according to him.
• 4:01:02
  Oh, he is God. Okay.
• 4:01:04
  Okay, that would explain why I don't like him.
• 4:01:12
  You know, here's a question for you guys.
• 4:01:14
  If Wesley really is God. Are you sure you guys want to
• 4:01:17
  stay following him and not just jump over to my side?
• 4:01:22
  I hear you now talk I give him Wesley a chance before he had
• 4:01:28
  his chance to open up his church so much.
• 4:01:30
  So it just wasn't working for me.
• 4:01:33
  Yeah. All right.
• 4:01:35
  Well, I want to say thank you guys for joining us and thank
• 4:01:39
  you to all the STS members who came on have gone to bed now and
• 4:01:44
  I want to say thank you to the people who have been wonderfully
• 4:01:47
  leaving comments. To all of our trolls and to the
• 4:01:52
  church State members who I know or watching because they can't
• 4:01:55
  not watch I want to say thank you all we've had quite well
• 4:02:00
  good turnout on all the different platforms that we are
• 4:02:04
  on Brett. I know he said that we are
• 4:02:06
  blowing up on Rumble right now and whatnot.
• 4:02:10
  I won't say thank you for all that.
• 4:02:13
  If you guys want to jump on over to my YouTube channel, I have a
• 4:02:18
  link in my YouTube description where you can donate to SDS if
• 4:02:23
  you want to support us again, you can also look up my book on
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  line on amazon.com. It is called the satanic
• 4:02:31
  Testament. Show that really quickly again.
• 4:02:35
  It will not be blurry. It's a hex it is.
• 4:02:44
  So you can go buy my book on Amazon and support us.
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  And if you're interested in the satanic, Julian Society, you can
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  look into us so you can find us in you can find links on Amazon
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  dot on YouTube that will take you to our website.
• 4:03:04
  So thank you all for joining us. And before we leave I would like
• 4:03:08
  to leave people with one final video clip to remind people and
• 4:03:14
  Anton LaVey really did believe in a real God real Satan.
• 4:03:19
  He was not an atheist. Hey tonight something real quick
• 4:03:25
  before we do that. All right, go ahead.
• 4:03:28
  Um, why just wanted to say if I send you a follow over at
• 4:03:32
  Twitter, maybe you could plug that real quick so I can find it
• 4:03:35
  in other people too. You know, we follow me back so I
• 4:03:39
  can dmu. Yeah.
• 4:03:40
  Sure. Oh, yeah.
• 4:03:42
  Awesome. I think I know where you're at,
• 4:03:45
  but just just be on the lookout for that.
• 4:03:47
  Yes. All right, I'm from.
• 4:03:52
  So yeah. Thank you all for joining us
• 4:03:55
  tonight. And you all have a good night.
• 4:03:58
  Certainly, you're right. The the concept of God has given
• 4:04:03
  the world much beautiful music many beautiful works of art and
• 4:04:07
  certainly I feel God exists. But the name for God of course
• 4:04:12
  is different from many different people.
• 4:04:18
  Thank you all have a good night.