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Hail Mary Marketing · Presented by Speaking Human

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  Speaker 1: In a world where movies rely on marketing more than
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  Speaker 1: ever to connect with audiences, one podcast aims to make
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  Speaker 1: sense of it all. This is Movies and Marketing.
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  Speaker 2: Next Saturday Night, where's sending you back to the future?
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, make my day? How about now? You're crazy
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  Speaker 3: Dutch bastard.
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  Speaker 2: What we've got here is failure mill Gate.
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  Speaker 3: Take them around, where as fresh all of pow for
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  Speaker 3: we might be as well with them. I am an
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  Speaker 3: f I agent.
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  Speaker 2: Here we are Chad finally doing a MoMA A Movies
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  Speaker 2: and Marketing episode. Is this the first of the year?
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  Speaker 3: Could it be that possible?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 3: Is that true?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's true.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't even remember the last moment.
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  Speaker 2: You might be right, So I've got we've been starting
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  Speaker 2: off movies and marketing for probably like a year, right
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  Speaker 2: with trivia questions.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been doing trivia for about a year now.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's you know ingrained in the show at
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  Speaker 3: this point, since.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about a movie that is somewhat related to space,
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  Speaker 2: not somewhat. This movie is all about space.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I say it's pretty related to space.
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  Speaker 2: I'll call this the billion dollar question, and you'll immediately
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  Speaker 2: know why what was the first space movie to gross
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  Speaker 2: over a billion dollars worldwide? I have multiple choice if
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  Speaker 2: you want it. In the past few episodes of Trivia,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you've been able to just call it
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  Speaker 2: out and you've been pretty close, if not dead on.
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  Speaker 3: So my first instinct is to say Star Wars. But
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, did movies make over a billion back then?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if we're hitting that mark, but that
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  Speaker 3: would be my first instinct. Guess you can tell me
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  Speaker 3: if that's right or wrong.
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  Speaker 2: It is in the multiple choice options. It is incorrect, though,
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  Speaker 2: if you were to go with that one, Okay, it's
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  Speaker 2: a good try, though, I think.
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  Speaker 3: How about Avatar?
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  Speaker 2: You would be correct if you picked Avatar. So fifty
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  Speaker 2: to fifty shot there. But we all know Avatar was
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  Speaker 2: a hit. So you know what's funny is like, when
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  Speaker 2: I immediately think of it, I don't even think of
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  Speaker 2: Avatar as a space movie, you know, because it's completely
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  Speaker 2: set on one world. But then yeah, you think about
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  Speaker 2: it and yeah, it's in like far reaches of space clearly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's some space travel in the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the first one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the multiple choice had interstellar gravity Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: and Avatar. So you got it with Avatar.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Star Wars must have been before that. Time movies
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  Speaker 3: are making that much money, you know, especially the international money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in you know, just paying a little tribute to
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  Speaker 2: you know, space movies out there.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of space movies, maybe less now than
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  Speaker 3: there used to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but every so often you get some really good
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  Speaker 2: ones that come around. Interstellar, one of my favorite movies,
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  Speaker 2: came out in twenty fourteen. Yeah, I mean it's twelve
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  Speaker 2: years ago, but I love I still love that movie.
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  Speaker 2: It's a very timeless movie. Even though most futuristic movies
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  Speaker 2: are most movies that are sort of set in space
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  Speaker 2: feel dated. I think they did a really good job
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  Speaker 2: of holding it together and that super focused, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean. Like they didn't show populations and cities
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  Speaker 2: as much, so it will feel less dated over time.
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  Speaker 2: Does that make sense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And their depiction of what was happening on Earth
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  Speaker 3: seems like it could fit for at least a century
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  Speaker 3: to come.
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  Speaker 2: It might be too close to reality to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: might not be science fiction.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one I need to watch again. It's been
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  Speaker 3: a while since I saw it, and I think I
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  Speaker 3: just saw it the one time go quite have the
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  Speaker 3: love you do. I'd like to see that in a
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  Speaker 3: theater though.
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  Speaker 2: So today we're talking though about what Chad.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking about another space movie, a big one. We're
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  Speaker 3: getting here pretty soon. Project hail Mary, please stay to
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  Speaker 3: your name, Ryland Grace. He spoke up from a coma.
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  Speaker 2: There's several light years from my apartment.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not an astronaut.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an astronaut. I'm not an astronaut.
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  Speaker 3: If you don't go, you die with the rest of us.
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  Speaker 3: Hitting theaters on March twentieth, twenty twenty six, the first
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  Speaker 3: day of Spring. Not related in any way, just you
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  Speaker 3: know a little fact. Project Hail Mary tells the story
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  Speaker 3: of science teacher Ryland Grace, who wakes up on a
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  Speaker 3: spaceship white years from home with no recollection of who
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  Speaker 3: he is or how he got there. As his memory returns,
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  Speaker 3: he begins to uncover his mission solve the riddle of
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  Speaker 3: the mysterious substance causing the Sun to diet out. He
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  Speaker 3: must call on his scientific knowledge and unorthodox ideas to
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  Speaker 3: save everything on Earth from extinction, but an unexpected friendship
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  Speaker 3: means he may not have to do it alone. That's exciting. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this movie is based on the twenty twenty one So
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  Speaker 3: I Find the novel of the same name by Andy Weir,
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  Speaker 3: who also authored The Martian, a book that also became
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  Speaker 3: a movie. Stars Ryan Gosling and was directed by Phil
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  Speaker 3: Lord and Chris Miller, who previously directed the Lego movie
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  Speaker 3: in twenty one Jump Street and wrote and produced the
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  Speaker 3: Spider Verse movies. So those guy's got a pretty good
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  Speaker 3: track record. The movie is being released by MGM Amazon
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  Speaker 3: MGM Studio. Sorry, can't forget the Amazon right, So Patrick,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of one of our first bigger releases, i'd say,
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  Speaker 3: of the year of twenty twenty six. It thought it'd
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  Speaker 3: be a good idea to talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 3: the marketing, maybe go through it detailed by detailing great
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  Speaker 3: it as only we.
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  Speaker 2: Can only we can do this. I gotta be honest.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited that it's coming up soon. You know, it's
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  Speaker 2: like three weeks from when we're recording, because I want
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  Speaker 2: to see this movie. A little bum that it's not
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  Speaker 2: in the Summer movie draft, because I think this is
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  Speaker 2: like what, like you said, it's I think it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a pretty big movie.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like something to see on the big screen,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels cinematic. I feel like space movies tend
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  Speaker 2: to be.
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  Speaker 1: That way for me.
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  Speaker 3: Good example on your multiple choice list. Gravity is a
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  Speaker 3: great theater movie.
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  Speaker 2: That was great in the theater. I heard people talking about, like,
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  Speaker 2: you have to see this in the theater, which is
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  Speaker 2: one of the reasons why I saw it there. And
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  Speaker 2: it did not disappoint. It looked great.
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  Speaker 3: So what are we doing today? We're going to go
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  Speaker 3: through the marketing efforts of Hail Mary. We previously did
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  Speaker 3: this with the movie him mm hmm, where he kind
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  Speaker 3: of broke down, you know, several different categories we talked about,
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  Speaker 3: the trailers, the posters, the social a few different things.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna go through and we're gonna give each one
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  Speaker 3: a grade on our specific scale we have made up
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  Speaker 3: just for this movie. What is that scale?
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  Speaker 2: Patrick, Yeah, this is fun. One failure to launch it
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  Speaker 2: means this is bad, It's very bad. Whatever whatever it
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  Speaker 2: was we were talking about. Stable orbit is good. So
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  Speaker 2: it's like right in the middle medium meh mid mid
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  Speaker 2: as the kids say, and mission accomplished. Great thumbs up,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like the Astronauts thumbs up pretty easy one
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  Speaker 2: of three.
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  Speaker 3: We like to keep thinking simple here, so let's start
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  Speaker 3: off by talking about the trailers for Project Hail Mary.
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  Speaker 3: There have been three official trailers. You know, we got
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  Speaker 3: the first one, the second one, and the third one.
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  Speaker 3: But you know three one, two three trailers.
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  Speaker 2: The first one, the second one, and the third one.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a name for them or
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  Speaker 3: a way to describe them, but I think they're just
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  Speaker 3: official trailer one, two and three.
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  Speaker 2: Here's how I I categorized those three. Music is a
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  Speaker 2: big part of any trailer, right, but in this movie,
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  Speaker 2: I think they picked I think there's a reason behind them.
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  Speaker 2: But so, the first trailer had a Harry Styles song
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  Speaker 2: got to Got to get Away. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: that song's title is. I should have probably looked that up,
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  Speaker 2: so sorry, you have to go from my vocal reinterpretation
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  Speaker 2: of that. The second trailer had Supernova Dampagne Supernova Champagne
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  Speaker 2: Supernova by Oasis Oasis, and the third one had Prince
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  Speaker 2: I'd Die for you, Ah, what dat fault you? And
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  Speaker 2: here's what I liked about this. I gotta tell you, man,
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  Speaker 2: I love when trailers put a remix mashup type of song. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it really gets you in a mood, you know, whatever mood.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it just gets you amped up, especially if
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  Speaker 2: it's a song you like.
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  Speaker 3: It almost always works, yeah, I mean I have trouble
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  Speaker 3: thinking about when it hasn't worked. You know. I can
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  Speaker 3: think of a bunch of movies like Us and The
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  Speaker 3: Social Network, and you know, going back years, movies have
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  Speaker 3: been doing this constantly. I think they're doing it more
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  Speaker 3: and more too with the trailers, and I like it
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  Speaker 3: almost every time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have an emotional connection to that song.
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  Speaker 2: We talk about this all the time. We talked about
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  Speaker 2: a moment I'm teen times. Right. It just connects with
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  Speaker 2: you so quickly because the song already has like inherent
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  Speaker 2: value to you as a watcher. Right. So all three
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  Speaker 2: songs I really like. I mean, whether you like those
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  Speaker 2: songs or not, I think or know them all, Like
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  Speaker 2: the Harry Styles one I think has enough popularity, but
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  Speaker 2: the other two for our generation at the very least,
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  Speaker 2: very identifiable. One hundred percent mission accomplished on these trailers
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  Speaker 2: for me, and that's just music alone. I would say
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  Speaker 2: the way they progressed the story between trailer one two
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  Speaker 2: and three. The final trailer was the third one. They
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  Speaker 2: they progressively told you a little bit more about the
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  Speaker 2: story to the point where I think they have done
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  Speaker 2: a good job of setting up expectations. If they tease
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  Speaker 2: this in the wrong way, people might be disappointed. I
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  Speaker 2: think if you went into this movie and you thought
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  Speaker 2: it was like Interstellar where it's just like humanity and
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  Speaker 2: you didn't have the alien portion, if you weren't anticipating that,
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  Speaker 2: you went into this movie thing and it's like Brian
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  Speaker 2: Gosling trying to, you know, save the Earth, and then
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  Speaker 2: you see like, oh, is this like a man meets alien.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of movie.
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  Speaker 2: If you didn't know that's what it was about, you
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  Speaker 2: might be a little like shook.
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  Speaker 3: So you thought it was good they showed the alien,
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  Speaker 3: and how much I guess they showed the alien because
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  Speaker 3: the third one they show a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of the alien. Yeah, originally I thought that was the
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  Speaker 2: giveaway and I was like, why did they do that?
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  Speaker 3: It seems like a bait switch, doesn't it. It seems
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  Speaker 3: like we're like throwing this thing out so not like
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  Speaker 3: looking over here, Yeah, like there's something else.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the right I mean, the writing like
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it's shoddy writing because you've got
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  Speaker 2: Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, who's the filmmakers behind, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Martian I mean, obviously the author is from the Martian, right,
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  Speaker 2: they're really thinking through this, They're not just giving you stuff,
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  Speaker 2: And so I do like that they showed that once
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  Speaker 2: I started to think through that a little bit more,
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  Speaker 2: especially because how much they show it in the second
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  Speaker 2: and the third.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably in general a little lower on the trailers.
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  Speaker 3: I'm probably more like a stable orbit the I liked
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  Speaker 3: the music. The first trailer I think might be bad.
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  Speaker 3: You know, if I'm just graining that one alone, that's
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  Speaker 3: probably a failure to launch. I thought it was pretty
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  Speaker 3: I saw it a couple of times in the theater
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  Speaker 3: and I was like this, I know, I'm gonna probably
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  Speaker 3: like this movie, but this trie is pretty lame. And
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  Speaker 3: I think part of it's what you're talking about. I
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  Speaker 3: could tell like they're holding back, and obviously then we
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  Speaker 3: got more of the alien stuff. The way it's cut
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  Speaker 3: together and what they're showing it is clear there's like
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  Speaker 3: missing pieces that they're like keeping out of there because
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  Speaker 3: it all just doesn't quite flow, you know, it's not
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  Speaker 3: like a clear story set up. There there's something missing.
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  Speaker 3: I would have hinted at the alien. It felt like
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  Speaker 3: they were showing too much. But again, once we see
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  Speaker 3: the final movie, it might be like this was not
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  Speaker 3: too much, you know, and it was kind of like
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  Speaker 3: a misdirect. Wouldn't have been more fun to be surprised
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  Speaker 3: by some of this stuff or be like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 3: know there's an alien or there's the ship and there's
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  Speaker 3: something in it. Yeah, But to be more surprised by
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  Speaker 3: what is in it and the relationship they then developed,
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  Speaker 3: which you get a lot of that that final trailer,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: That's the other thing it sets up which I like
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  Speaker 2: about it is that it sets up the tone of
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  Speaker 2: the movie a little bit better. It gives a tone
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  Speaker 2: to this movie that like there's some comedy there. There's
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  Speaker 2: some cuteness factor that goes on in terms of like
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  Speaker 2: the dialogue. It's not like a real deep I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it might might be very deep, it might be, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but it feels like there's a level of lightness to it.
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  Speaker 2: Here's what I'm afraid of, though, I'm just gonna talk
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  Speaker 2: about my real fear.
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  Speaker 3: Get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 2: I mean Rocky's gonna die.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, you're just going right there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like this better not turn
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  Speaker 2: into that, because that would make me sad. Like Interstellar
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  Speaker 2: has this deep emotional part to the movie, but it's
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  Speaker 2: rewatchable to some degree, whereas like if it's like someone
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  Speaker 2: dies in the movie, it's really hard to rewatch that
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of times, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I hadn't thought about that. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if there's gonna be a death, but I could
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  Speaker 3: see there being like they become friends and then they
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  Speaker 3: have to go, you know, their separate ways made me
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  Speaker 3: think a lot about Hanks and Wilson. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he kind of like finds this thing like that can't
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  Speaker 3: necessarily directly communicate that they find a way to communicate,
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  Speaker 3: so he has something when he's like all alone, kind
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  Speaker 3: of like lost at sea, but you're thrifting through space
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  Speaker 3: or whatever. So I could see it where there's a
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  Speaker 3: point where they have to like then separate, which is crushing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: when this has been your best bud.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great comparison.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Wilson and Rocky, that'll be the spinoff, Wilson and Rocky.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I really hope it's not. That's my
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  Speaker 2: general fear, the deep contemplation before I even go into
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  Speaker 2: the movie.
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  Speaker 3: I know you're like going there. So yeah, you're a
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  Speaker 3: mission accomplished. On the trailers, I'm a stable orbit. So
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  Speaker 3: good and great, still pretty good. According to the movie's
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  Speaker 3: Twitter feed, the first trailer the most viewed ever in
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  Speaker 3: a single week for an original film, not a sequel
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  Speaker 3: or remake. Four hundred million global.
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  Speaker 2: Views, four hundred million people are interested, four hundred million. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's a lot in a week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Moving on to posters, we got a few.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what I would say about. All three posters
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  Speaker 2: feature front and center. Guess who Ryan Gosling. If you
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  Speaker 2: guess Ryan Gosling, you get all the points.
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  Speaker 3: Big star this guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ryan Gosling collage in space each time in different ways.
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  Speaker 2: One he's in a actually two of them, he's in
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  Speaker 2: a spacesuit. One of them, he looks like he's looking
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  Speaker 2: out from the inside of the spaceship that he's in
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  Speaker 2: out the window. He can see maybe the ship that
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  Speaker 2: Rocky is on, but he's always looking out into the distance.
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  Speaker 2: This is what they've done really well, between the three
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  Speaker 2: of them. They've covered all their bases right. One is
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  Speaker 2: like got the tagline Project tail Mary. It's him Earth
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  Speaker 2: the Sun. The other one he's looking out the window
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  Speaker 2: of the spaceship. The big thing on that one instead
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  Speaker 2: of the tagline is they talk about the best selling
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  Speaker 2: author from The Martian, Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, creators
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  Speaker 2: of the Spider Verse. I think earlier I misspoke that
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  Speaker 2: I said that they were from the Martian. They weren't
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  Speaker 2: from the Marsh and the original one they were or
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  Speaker 2: from Spider Verse, from the Spider Verse franchise, I should say.
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  Speaker 2: And then the third one they're really pumping the imax.
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  Speaker 2: So all three I think, very nice looking images of
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  Speaker 2: him in space. I think it's good that they're choosing
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  Speaker 2: to feature him. He's obviously the start of the show.
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  Speaker 2: Little glimpse at Rocky there in the one with the tagline.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about these three? The posters?
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  Speaker 3: I like them, especially a couple of them, you know,
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  Speaker 3: have some nice coloration. It's kind of like eye catching. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you're like seeing it in the theater. The other thing
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  Speaker 3: I really like is, you know it's kind of related
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  Speaker 3: to the post kind of not but the thought they
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  Speaker 3: use for the title, you know where Hail Mary has
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  Speaker 3: kind of these triangles. It's kind of like the wider
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  Speaker 3: lettering a little bit other than Project. I don't know why. Project.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little different. Project's a little smaller. Project is
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  Speaker 3: not that important. More about the Hail Mary.
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  Speaker 2: Part of me wonders if it has something to do
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  Speaker 2: with the concept to the movie.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, there's like some kind of like code or something
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  Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, you know, the one with Goslin kind
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  Speaker 3: of looking at he's upside down looking out the spaceship.
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  Speaker 3: That one's kind of the least exciting to me. Out
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: like the more colorful even in the trailer, you seek
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: some of these kind of vibrant, all psychedelic scenes. It
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: looks like so I like that they kind of incorporated
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: that a little more. The Imax one's probably the one
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I like the best. It's really the one that that
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: kind of like pops and shows him again in space
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: looking off and you're like, what's he looking at? They
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: could have been a little better than probably like a
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: stable orbit on these I think they're good. I don't
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: think they're.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Great from my vantage point. I think they're good too.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: They're stable orbit. Yeah, they're in Orbit in like kind.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Of status quo movie poster, you know what I mean,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: They're not doing anything like Super Original.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. As a series, I like him though. I think
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: that they they work really well as a series. They
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: tell different parts of the story, so by the end
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: you kind of understand in the complexity of that story
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: a little bit better than you did at the beginning.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: So I don't know when they released each one of
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: these posters, or any of the posters.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: That's a good point. I don't know how many people
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: are actually gonna look at them together or see them
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: in sequence. But when I look at them like that,
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: it's like Earth, Spaceship Space, maybe other World. So it's
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: cool to like kind of get that full story, like
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: you said about the trail lish.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So then that brings us to tagline. Taglines plural.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: We've got two that they've used and unlikely friendship and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: impossible Mission. That's one, and the other one is Believe
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: in the Hail Mary.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a failure to launch for me, Patrick,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: neither of these do you very much? For me? I
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: feel like they could have done something, you know, more creative.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: They could have done a little better. Believe in the
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: hail Mary. I get it. I feel like there's even
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: another hail mary phrase they could have used that was
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: like better, stronger. This is just like the simplest clock
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: out by five o'clock version of that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Mmm.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: So yeah, those don't particularly move me. Am I being
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: too harsh? I don't know, what do you think?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the first one, you know, an unlikely friendship and
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: impossible mission, feels pretty easy. Not necessarily a cop out,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: but maybe you could call it that based on what
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: you were just saying.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: What if they switched it, What if it was an
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: impossible friendship and unlikely mission, would you like it better?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I would actually like that better. I don't know why.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: And also I'm not a big fan of believing the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: hail Mary. I don't really know what that means, because
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: that's not the saying, you know, he's gonna go for
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: a hail Mary, Like that's how people would say it,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: believe in the hail Mary. That's not actually a saying,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: and I don't like the way that that sounds. I
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: don't know why.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I'd prefer go for the hail mary. And again, that's
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: not even great. But I also wouldn't use hail mary
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: in the tagline because you you have project hail Mary.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess the believe in the hail Mary is
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: like believe in the project.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so just say believe in the project.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: That's in the title too, I know.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: But then you say believe in the project and it's
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: project hail Mary. Now you're saying the same thing but
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: not having to say believe in the hail Mary.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Nothing about it works for me.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I agree, I don't. It's not my favorite and usually
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: isn't it used in like a football connotation? Mostly?
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like throwing a hail Mary.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, so you would say crashing to the earth in.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: That one, I did. Yeah, failure, it didn't even launch,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: didn't go up.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I would agree with you. I don't think that's great.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: They're starting to tick down for me.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: The trailers were pretty high, Yeah, posters and then taglines.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: What about the title, the project hail Mary? What do
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: you think on that?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: The title is solid, it seems to function well with
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: the plot, but it doesn't blow me away for some reason.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I you know, I was thinking about this. Would it
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: be better if they lost the project? Would it be
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: better if it was just called hail Mary? Would it
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: be worse.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Here's my problem with that. And maybe this is just
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: because historically in my life be like a church movie
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: then yeah, you know, like having project in front of
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: hail Mary. This is what it does. It stops me
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: from saying hail Mary, full of grace. Immediately my mind
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: wants to complete the sentence hail Mary with full of
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: grace as opposed to just project. Hail Mary. Doesn't make
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: me you know, I don't want to complete that sentence.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: What if the title is hail Mary and then the
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: tagline is play on full of grace? Okay, like full
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: of space, you know.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And I just put this together because his name is
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: in the movie Ryland Grace, hail Mary, full of grace.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to piece the puzzle together. Yeah, the writer,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: he had to think a lot about that and like
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: what is he kind of name this? It'll probably mean
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: a lot more once you see the movie too. This
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: is the.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Discussion we had with him. Yeah, you know, we're like,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: what does the title mean before you've seen the movie?
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Like how much depth can it really have? Sometimes the
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: title becomes much better once you've seen the movie, and
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: it like starts to sound right, you know, after you've
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: seen the full thing.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Which I think is what's going to happen with this.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: This is the other thing I think they're always struggling
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: with is how do you make it unique? There's so
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: many space movies. None of them are called Project Hail Mary.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: So good for them. They just checked one off the list.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: This is that movie. It's not any other movie. It's
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: not you know, like even Interstellar. You could argue that
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: could be any space movie two thousand and one, Space Odyssey,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Space Odyssey. I mean it's like, okay, gravity, there's just
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: like all those movies could be something else. You know,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: maybe this one will be unique enough that it works.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And do you think that the sequel then will
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: be called Strategy? Our Father, our father who aren't in space?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Who aren't in space? Rocky be thy name, Rocky be
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Thy name.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the title, you know, it's a stable arbit
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: For me.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's Yeah, it's good.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Maybe it'll get better, yeah, yeah, as they sometimes do. Okay,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: let's talk viral social what's going on there? You know,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: your TikTok, your Instagram, your Facebook, your X anything else trending.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: What do you think of those efforts?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say, like the social it leans I
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: think into this community building sort of like sci fi optimism.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: They're framing this like message around belief being and trying
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: to build the fandom around that. I think the social
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: in general, I think is just that, you know, like
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: it's it's like most movies. The one thing that I
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: would say that I liked that maybe would have been
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: sort of as a as like a gorilla social was
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: something I saw on social, but it was like sort
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: of gorilla that sort of ties in with this like
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the Instagram, the TikTok, the Facebook is them posting these
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: kind of raw videos of Ryan Gosling doing things which
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: I liked. I think that not a lot of actors
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: can pull that off, and I think he does that
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: really well. One I think I maybe sent you even
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Mendez videotaped him calling the guy from on FaceTime from
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live. I don't know if that again, I
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: don't know. Some things seem like they're not planned, and
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: then they they're playing off this like very a seemingly
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: authentic thing where like he was like, wait a second,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: he's like because he started talking to him about at
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: the SNL like spot that he was coming on in
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks, and Ryan Gosling starts off and
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: he's kind of like hidden in this call. He starts
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: talking about the movie and then it clearly becomes like
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: a plug for the movie right where it's not about
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the SNL spot anymore that he's coming on, and Mikey
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Day is like, is this a marketing thing? I don't
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: understand what's happening right now? And Ryan Gosling's trying to
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: play it straight, you know, but you could tell he's
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: starting to lose it a little bit and laugh. And
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that that's the kind of stuff like on social media
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: that I think gets picked up because people share that,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: like again to the effect of what I'm telling you
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: is did you see this? A little bit of It's funny,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: a little bit of his did they know? Did Mikey
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Day know on this? That's the shareable nature of that,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: and I think what makes it somewhat fire, not necessarily
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: viral viral, but viral enough.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's stuff that has a little juice. M h
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I saw you know another they're speaking of Ryan Gosling.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: There was one TikTok that was kind of like a
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: pre Super Bowl one that was clearly doctored, but kind
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: of entertaining where it was Like Gosling was on a bridge.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: He throws the football. It looks like two hundred yards
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: into like you know, it's like a giant yonnut like
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: you'd see on top of a donut shop or something.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: It gets, yeah, you know.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: It throws a hail Mary and gets the football. You
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: can almost see where it like clips and cuts, you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: to where it's doctor and then the football goes through
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: the donut kind of like a fun stupid thing.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fun. See that's what I like too, Like
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: tying in the throwing a hail Mary. Okay, I like that.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I do too.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: You know, I know it's very face value, but we.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Do that kind of stuff, you know what I mean,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Like go around, just go to like kids practicing on
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: a football field and like be like, I'd give one
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars to whoever can you know get this in
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: this doughnut that's like fifty yards away or something like that.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they all do it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Damn. So I think they you know, they've got a
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: social presence. They're everywhere. They got some cool posters on
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Instagram and stuff. They're on like doing something a little
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: different on all of them. So it's a stable orbit.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: It's pretty good. There's some interesting stuff out there.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think anything that would be mission accomplished necessarily.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Like it's great, but I think it's like right in
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: between that and stable orbit, like between good and great.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're doing the work.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing the work. And the thing I do
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: like or I feel like I'm getting a sense of
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are talking about this movie. Yeah,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: and maybe that's timing and time of year, season and
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: all kinds of stuff. I mean, all that comes into play,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: but people are talking.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: And I think having gosspling me out there helps mm hmm.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: And word of mouth. We haven't talked about that, but
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I've seen some things, Like with pre screenings, people were
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: talking about it. I saw a thing I think it
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: was Josh Gad posted how he saw it and he's like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: it makes you believe in humanity again, stuff like that. So,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, if the Snowman from Frozen likes it, I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: mean he loves summertime just like I do.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Well, so overall, I think, you know, fairly on the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: positive side, nothing totally destroys this movie's cred with us.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: What about any other what about March product, guerrilla marketing,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: anything like that? You got any other stuff?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Most of that was like the post that was on
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: social accounts. What did you see any other product tie ins?
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything specific.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I got a couple I'd like slotting to other, which
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: are I saw a YouTube video with the directors MM
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: where they were doing like a theater tour, watching it
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: in all the different formats. Oh, so they went around
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: and they're like, we're seeing in I'MAX, Now, we're seeing
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: in the D box, Now we're seeing it in three D, new,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: we're seeing forty X. Just kind of like promoting all
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: the different ways you could see it, which was pretty
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: entertaining and kind of like pushing the premium on this.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: And then the other thing I saw was, you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: through cinema, like a astronaut helmet popcorn bucket.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, that would be cool.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't the best one I've ever seen, but
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: it was in you know, had like a flip top. Yeah,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: the helmet opened up.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I would get that. That'd be cool. I did see that.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Because of the Amazon tie in, they have the prime
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: early screenings. Again, one of those things where when you've
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: got a studio who's also you know, a streamer who's
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: releasing something in the theaters. This idea of if you're
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: a subscriber here, you might get some benefits and pre
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: screening opportunities here in the theater, which actually kind of
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: cool idea if that worked out. I mean, I know
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: you can't do that for everything, so there have to
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: be some stipulations. But cross promotion, I wouldn't mind that.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind seeing it early.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Call me up at Amazon, on me up Amazon, I'm ready.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: So overall, I don't think it's great, but I think
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: it's good all around, you know, pretty much cross the board,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: pretty solid. What do you thank you with that?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty jazzed about this. I mean, I think
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: the marketing has really led me down this path to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: be a ticket holder, and then that the ultimate goal,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: like get me to buy a ticket maybe more, which
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I probably will. My kids are probably gonna go stay
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: with me, my wife, you know, I mean that's what
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: they want.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: You're gonna get the astronaut helmet, popcornbike.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna get that again.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know. The marketing's totally sold me. I found
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: it somewhat underwhelming in some respects, But I just have
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: this feeling in me. I'm like, this is gonna be
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: a good movie. I'm gonna like it, and that is
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: almost doing more work for me than the things I'm
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: seeing of it. So I hope that instinct is right.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: But your instinct isn't it sort of driven by the marketing,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Like the marketing has to be giving you that feeling.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: You can't get that feel without because you haven't seen
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the movie. Well, I think it's that feeling is based
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: on the people involved. Okay, so it's solely based on
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the cred of Okay.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of this combination of people feel feels
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: like it has to be good. But then when I
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: watched the trailer and like some of the comedy coming
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: across and like some of the stuff, I'm just like,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: it's not quite connecting for me. Okay, but again, I
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: feel like they're also not dealing out the full deck there.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my hope. Anyway, did you like the movie
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: The Fall Guy? I can't remember if I were asked
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: you that.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I thought that was good.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you feel like that movie was rewatchable?
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I'd watch it again. Did you like it? Yeah?
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I liked that movie a lot. I actually liked it
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: a lot more than I thought I was gonna like it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: And I think it's a very fun, rewatchable movie. So
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the reason why I asked that question to relate to
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: this movie is that it's like the stars and aligning
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: of the credit of the actor and the writer, the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: directors and stuff. So writer, actor director, Yeah, I could
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: see where that could play a part. Plus, I think
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: he brings a watchability to as an actor to things
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: because he does feel like he's most of this movie
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: outside of this CGI or maybe it's a real alien I.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Don't know, could be real, which I think looks good.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: All Right, So we've been doing this thing with movies
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: like this box office predictions for this. What do you
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: think Project Hail Mary comes out? Like we said March twentieth,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: about three weeks from the recording, So how do you
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna do at the box office? Bomb Blockbuster,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: not to be confused with the now dissunked video store.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, so we're not doing that. So we're predicting
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: domestic and international? Are we doing the Are we doing prices? Right?
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Sure, why not, let's do it. I always like that
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: challenge because then it makes it real.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: It does make it a challenge. I can't be too
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: crazy like I want to be. So I'm gonna go here.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go two hundred domestic and six hundred international.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Two hundred domestic and six hundred international, so it's gonna
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: be eight hundred million.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: No, oh, six hundred includes the two hundred.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so four hundred international, two hundred domestics, six hundred worldwide. Yeah, okay,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I think you're probably dead on. I was thinking two hundred,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to go to twenty five domestic.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: You should have gone two oh one. I'm gonna go
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: two oh one, Bob, twenty five.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say two twenty five domestic, three hundred international,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: So that'd be five twenty five worldwide, So I'm still
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: under you.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: International. Yeah, international, you're higher than me, domestic lower than
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: me worldwide?
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: So will you lose on either side of it doesn't
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: matter if it's domestic or international.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: I guess you could win one and lose the other one, right,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: It was originally going to go two thirty, but then
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: I was like, I got to pair it back. Its
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: price is right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be somewhere between like two
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: and two forty, probably two fifty domestic and probably somewhere
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: between three and three point fifty internationals. So it's gonna
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: be because here's what I'm basing that belief on is
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: that the Martian.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: This is exactly what I was basic a.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I actually think this is going to do
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: better than The Martian, which that had six thirty worldwide.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I do think this is going to be bigger than
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: that for a number of reasons. But people really liked that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: But it also came out, you know what, that was
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: probably like ten to twelve years ago too.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty fifteen, so Elevin, we were in a different
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: place than twenty fifteen.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: We were one movies were making more money though, but still,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: you know, big movies now can still put up some numbers,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: and this is gonna be one of the first, I think,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: bigger ones of the year. Yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I also think that there's some things in play here
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: with word of mouth. I think Martian had a little
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: bit of that. People talked about that movie, and then
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: it got some residual from that I think this movie
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: is gonna have a ton This is just me thinking
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: about hype and stuff like that. We're talking about where
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: we are right now, ten eleven years later. If what
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm hearing about it is like makes you believe in
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: humanity again, lovely, just take that snapshot of what someone said, Well,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: let it go, Shad, come on, let it go. If
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: that's true, I think people are craving that. I think
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: people need a movie that makes you feel good. And
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: if this movie does that for people, I think there's
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of people go see this. It's
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the right time of year. I'll also throw this out there.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: It's got religious undertones going into Easter. You're in Lenton season.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Do you believe in the Hail? Mary?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if I'm a betting man, which i am,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I'm clearly betting with you on the prices of rules.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: It also seems like something almost all a just could
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: go to. Mm hmmm, A four quadrant movie as they
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: call it. But you probably take barely young kids to
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: see this, you know, old people. It's kind of I
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: feel like it kind of hits all those groups. It's
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: like open to everybody.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's what made the Martian work, right. It's like
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: it's space, but it's also like a human story.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: It's also kind of funny.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, and really I'm like looking back at that
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: even the market you know, Matt Damon did a pretty
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: good job. There were some funny parts in that movie.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Where Oscar nominated Matt Damon.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so if it does even half as good of
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: a job, which I think great charisma on screen, this
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: dude's gonna you know, it's gonna make bank and should.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: We'll find out. So one thing we like to do
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: to wrap up each episode is share, you know, an
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: upcoming movie, a piece of movie marketing, movie news items,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: something that's on our radar.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Patrick, what do you have for that?
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: What's hitting your hype watch right now? Other than you know,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: this movie we just talked about.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I had things in my list and then I was like,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: what the hell do I really want to talk about?
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Something that keeps coming up though, bubbling up to the surface,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: this untitled Mummy project, part of that franchise of the
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Mummy with Brendan Fraser, Rachel Wise.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, so that's good clarification. Different from the
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Mummy coming out soon.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where Supposedly Brendan Fraser is going to be back
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: in this Oh is he?
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I don't realize it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I've heard this. I don't know if those rumors are true,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: but let me just say I kind of love the
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: idea he's making a comeback. I kind of miss that
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Brendan Fraser.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Those movies were a lot of fun too.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: They were a lot of fun that could be really interesting.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: So I don't know truth to any of those rumors, obviously,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: but it just keeps bubbling up to the surface, like
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I'm hanging out with the Hollywood elite. None of that's happening,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: but it could be interesting. How about you? What do
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: you got?
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: So the thing I was going to point out was
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: the poster for the A twenty four movie, The Drama
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: m I don't know if you've seen this. It's got
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Robert Pattinson and Zendiah Zendia, Zendia Zendia.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: My daughter says, it's Zendia.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's we'll go with that. That's legit. Yeah,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: k It's an interesting poster. It's different, it's eye catching,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: and I think seems to be a little revealing about
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: the characters they're playing, or the types of people they're playing,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: or maybe that's just kind of the trick of it
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: movies coming out April third. I know nothing about it.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: I've just seen the poster and I think it's interesting.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: It's again we're talking about you know, we were just
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: talking about posters for Project Hail Mary, and we're like, well,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: the pretty standard issue. This one's a little different. This
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: is like different than most movie posters you had seen.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I'd give this kind of a mission accomplished because I'm like, Okay,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: this is doing something else.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen that, but sounds interesting. Is it anything
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: like the poster for Weathering Heights?
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Not sure. I don't know exactly what that poster looks like.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: With Margot Robbie. It looks like Gone with the Wind.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with that. So many
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: people talking about Weathering Heights. I don't even know what
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: that movie is about, but I'll tell you it's got
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: people talking.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of word on, a lot of buzz,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: a lot of.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Buzz, a lot of buzz. So yeah, overall, high expectation
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: optimism for Project Hail Mary. I think the early sentiments
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: are pretty strong. We personally want to see it.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Let us know what you think, Yeah, share your thoughts
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: with us. I'm interested to see how this one pans out.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to do well, and I think
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: it's gonna kind of kick off the spring to early
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: summer movie season, hopefully in a good way. Get the
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: get the box office movement.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll set us up for a really interesting summer
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: movie draft this year. God knows I need. I need
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: good summer with movies and good box office numbers so
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I can retain my lead.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Well, if you can hit this box office, maybe it'll
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: be a good sign.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: But that's it for this episode of movies and marketing.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Until next time, let's fade to black. I'll be back.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: He's not coming back.