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Ep. 189 - The Life of William Tyndale · The Living Waters Podcast

1:04
Oscar Navarro: You know what I'm just thinking?
1:05
Oscar Navarro: It's so easy for us to create our own popes in our lives, and what I mean by that is that when we depend too heavily on our pastors online preachers, whatever case to read our Bibles for us, to study our Bibles for us and then tell us what it says, we're basically pulling our own well-being back to pre-William Tyndale, in other words, like he fought hard and ultimately lost his life so that you and I could sit down with God's Word and read it for ourselves.
1:36
Oscar Navarro: And I can't help but wonder how many people are satisfied letting someone else study God's Word for them.
1:48
Emeal Zwayne: As you all know, friends, I often highlight Oscar's abysmal failures in life, which all, by the way, traces our roots back to the fact that he daily consumes rotten motor oil in the form of something he calls black coffee.
2:02
Emeal Zwayne: That's offensive, but, being the ever-merciful, gracious, tender, gentle, meek, lowly, humble and selfless friend that I am, today I'm going to highlight one of the very few victories in Oscar's life.
2:16
Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, tell the people about the recent basketball triumph that you coached your team in.
2:23
Oscar Navarro: That's not even my victory.
2:25
Oscar Navarro: It was so fun Last Friday I get to coach my 12-year-old son's basketball and so much fun with those kids.
2:33
Oscar Navarro: And last Friday they were down by 12 points going into the last quarter and I just like I got them together and I'm like, hey, don't, because 12 points for 12-year-olds is a lot.
2:44
Oscar Navarro: I mean for six minutes left and I just said don't worry about the score, stop, because kids love to look up at the scoreboard and it distracts them.
2:52
Oscar Navarro: So I'm like, don't worry about the score, stop looking at it, just pretend like you've got a 0-0 game and it's six minutes long.
2:59
Oscar Navarro: Go win this quarter.
3:01
Oscar Navarro: And they went out there and got a really good run together and we ended up winning by one point.
3:08
Mark Spence: Wait, this was the championship game.
3:09
Oscar Navarro: No, no, no, no.
3:10
Oscar Navarro: This is just a game like my kids in.
3:12
Oscar Navarro: You know what I mean, but they ended up winning by one point.
3:14
Oscar Navarro: It was like almost a buzzer beater.
3:16
Oscar Navarro: It was like four seconds left when we scored and went ahead.
3:19
Oscar Navarro: With four seconds left, one point victory.
3:22
Mark Spence: My son, ethan, wants to know if you want to join him and his friends in a basketball game I told him.
3:25
Mark Spence: Yes, I'm in.
3:26
Oscar Navarro: As long as they'll take my old man game.
3:31
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, Luke and Danny and Ethan.
3:33
Emeal Zwayne: They all play.
3:34
Mark Spence: I just played last, oh yeah.
3:35
Emeal Zwayne: Ryan, are they going to form a team?
3:37
Emeal Zwayne: They want a team.
3:38
Oscar Navarro: I just played.
3:39
Oscar Navarro: In my last night we played my league game.
3:41
Oscar Navarro: It was our first playoff game and we won by eight.
3:44
Oscar Navarro: So next week is the championship game.
3:47
Emeal Zwayne: I'm in, let's do it.
3:47
Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, you're still playing with a destroyed foot.
3:51
Emeal Zwayne: What is your deal?
3:52
Emeal Zwayne: I?
3:53
Oscar Navarro: just run in circles because I can't go straight.
3:55
Emeal Zwayne: Seriously, Ray, did you ever play sports?
3:58
Ray Comfort: Growing up?
3:58
Ray Comfort: Yeah, but I'm growing up Too soon.
4:03
Emeal Zwayne: What did you play, Ray?
4:05
Ray Comfort: I played rugby, you played rugby.
4:06
Ray Comfort: Yep never touched the ball once.
4:08
Ray Comfort: I'm not kidding he was the water boy.
4:10
Ray Comfort: I did some running.
4:12
Ray Comfort: I hate running.
4:13
Ray Comfort: I actually hate running.
4:15
Ray Comfort: I used to hide in a hedge until the guys came around the second time.
4:18
Ray Comfort: Did you really?
4:18
Ray Comfort: At school yeah, I'd hide in this big hedge.
4:21
Ray Comfort: When they came around the second time I joined them and the teacher was really thrilled with it.
4:25
Emeal Zwayne: Why'd you hate it so badly, Ray?
4:26
Ray Comfort: Because I couldn't breathe.
4:27
Ray Comfort: That's all.
4:27
Ray Comfort: This is small-minded detail.
4:30
Ray Comfort: Did you play sports growing up?
4:31
Emeal Zwayne: Easy.
4:31
Emeal Zwayne: I played streetball, like basketball.
4:33
Emeal Zwayne: I wanted to play soccer.
4:36
Emeal Zwayne: That didn't work out.
4:36
Emeal Zwayne: You know my parents didn't drive.
4:38
Emeal Zwayne: When I was growing up we moved here from Lebanon.
4:40
Emeal Zwayne: My dad was 70, almost.
4:43
Oscar Navarro: His name is Abraham, my mom never.
4:45
Emeal Zwayne: You know.
4:46
Emeal Zwayne: She was a homemaker.
4:46
Emeal Zwayne: She never ended up driving.
4:48
Emeal Zwayne: I was dependent on my siblings.
4:50
Emeal Zwayne: I did karate and I only got as far as my white belt.
4:55
Mark Spence: Is that how you start off with a white belt?
4:56
Mark Spence: Yeah, you start off, basically.
4:59
Emeal Zwayne: I remember I got test days.
5:00
Emeal Zwayne: Okay, I got your white belt, give me your 500 bucks or whatever it was.
5:04
Emeal Zwayne: I tried to play soccer.
5:06
Emeal Zwayne: I did theater for a little bit, A little bit of acting, because one of my teachers I was the 10 man in our sports play.
5:12
Emeal Zwayne: I said sports, I'm talking activities, but streetball, yeah, I grew up playing basketball.
5:20
Ray Comfort: I forgot, I played hockey and I played yachting.
5:24
Emeal Zwayne: What is?
5:25
Ray Comfort: yachting, yeah, yachting, little yachts, peaclass yachts.
5:27
Oscar Navarro: Electronic.
5:28
Ray Comfort: No, no, they're real yachts.
5:29
Ray Comfort: Is it like the early?
5:30
Emeal Zwayne: age why?
5:31
Ray Comfort: AHS or whatever is yachts.
5:33
Emeal Zwayne: Ray, a yacht is a giant, enormous big.
5:35
Emeal Zwayne: This is called Peaclass Were.
5:38
Emeal Zwayne: They dingies they're really small dingies.
5:40
Ray Comfort: Yeah, those are fun.
5:41
Ray Comfort: They go fast.
5:41
Ray Comfort: Yeah, you got to bend down because the thing comes across.
5:44
Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I learned to sail on one of those.
5:46
Oscar Navarro: How to sail on it.
5:47
Ray Comfort: Yeah, how to sail on it.
5:47
Ray Comfort: It's only three short times.
5:49
Ray Comfort: I played a little hockey and then I got into surfing.
5:51
Ray Comfort: Oh, you were a surfer.
5:54
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's right, you didn't play hockey too.
5:56
Emeal Zwayne: But wait, you didn't play ice hockey.
5:59
Ray Comfort: No, we'd no ice In New.
6:01
Emeal Zwayne: Zealand, we'd just played grass On the grass.
6:03
Ray Comfort: Yeah, it's fun.
6:04
Oscar Navarro: I played hockey no it was hockey.
6:06
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so Mark your mystery to me, because you were like a massive jock, I mean, that was your life Really.
6:14
Emeal Zwayne: Oh yeah, you were like I mean cross country.
6:17
Ray Comfort: So what are you talking about?
6:18
Mark Spence: Oh jock, no, not cross country or track.
6:22
Emeal Zwayne: No, no, I know you did football, but you also did track.
6:24
Ray Comfort: Excuse me when you say massive jock, what are you talking about?
6:25
Ray Comfort: Because a jocky is a short guy that rides horses.
6:28
Mark Spence: So that's most of the world.
6:29
Mark Spence: So what are you talking about?
6:29
Mark Spence: This is the most confused.
6:32
Emeal Zwayne: A jock is a guy that plays sports.
6:34
Ray Comfort: Yeah, that's an American.
6:35
Ray Comfort: Most of the world doesn't know that.
6:36
Ray Comfort: Okay, jock Got it.
6:40
Oscar Navarro: What was the name of your horse.
6:43
Emeal Zwayne: Can you imagine, seriously, can you imagine Mark as a jocky?
6:46
Ray Comfort: His legs would be dragging as you went around the track, he'd walk like.
6:50
Emeal Zwayne: The horse would go like one mile an hour Anyway, mark.
6:53
Emeal Zwayne: So yeah, I know, you did obviously football, that was your big thing, but you also did track.
6:57
Mark Spence: Yes, football and track.
6:58
Mark Spence: Yeah, I wanted to play basketball but had a run in with the head coach of the varsity team with that and it ended that.
7:04
Mark Spence: But yeah, 14 years of football and then track was really a lot of fun you would have been a phenomenal basketball player.
7:14
Emeal Zwayne: I remember back in the day when we were pastoring together.
7:16
Mark Spence: Remember we played a lot of memberships.
7:18
Emeal Zwayne: I called you daddy long legs.
7:19
Emeal Zwayne: He had to run across again and I was like mark, you never played basketball.
7:24
Oscar Navarro: I couldn't believe it were you always tall or did you have like a?
7:26
Mark Spence: late chris, I wasn't born tall, so mark you were, you were you were 6'3, just for the listeners wait, are you really?
7:32
Mark Spence: Well, I am getting shorter as I get older were you 6'3 mark nah at my peak.
7:37
Mark Spence: I was 6'3 I'm probably 6'2 right now.
7:39
Mark Spence: That's gravity, yeah, the high heels are without we've done that program here we go again.
7:46
Emeal Zwayne: Okay, but mark, the reason why I said you're a mystery to me is that your kids hardly played any organized sports.
7:52
Emeal Zwayne: Right?
7:53
Mark Spence: yeah, ethan did there's a little bit.
7:55
Mark Spence: Yeah, uh, noa played, yeah, ethan played basketball, that's right with with my boys, and he played baseball.
8:00
Mark Spence: Okay, baseball and basketball.
8:02
Mark Spence: So why, though, why didn't your kids really play a lot of sports?
8:04
Mark Spence: I didn't push it on them, you know, my, my dad kind of vicariously lived through us with sports.
8:09
Mark Spence: Uh, I was just heavily addicted to sports.
8:12
Mark Spence: Yeah, I always had a sports page in my back pocket, you know, in high school and even the first couple years of college well, you wanted those statistic yeah, I just had to know everything, everything that every name of your bookie, yeah and uh.
8:27
Mark Spence: So so I didn't, I didn't want to push that onto my kids.
8:30
Mark Spence: Yeah, I wanted my kids to kind of do what they wanted to do.
8:34
Ray Comfort: So how do we get on all that?
8:35
Ray Comfort: I just remembered I played cricket too.
8:37
Ray Comfort: That was coed, though, right?
8:39
Ray Comfort: No, this is cricket, and um, I used to go out for a duck every time.
8:43
Emeal Zwayne: You know what a duck is no, ray cricket is the most foreign thing in the universe, yeah, so for americans, cricket is when you search for crickets and you eat them no, this is very much it's very much like like baseball, but a flat bat and you don't run around, you run right, it's not like baseball.
8:58
Emeal Zwayne: They play for like three days.
8:59
Ray Comfort: It's more, it's more terrifying than baseball, because the ball is much harder, it's like a rock, and it is.
9:04
Emeal Zwayne: Have you held a cricket ball?
9:05
Emeal Zwayne: It's crazy, yeah, it's crazy, and they don't use gloves to catch right, well, they do.
9:09
Ray Comfort: They do use gloves and they got masks and they do, but they have what's called slips and they stand around the batter and it's the most dangerous place to stand.
9:16
Ray Comfort: And so there's one day cricket, which is very exciting.
9:19
Emeal Zwayne: There's three day cricket, which is very boring ah no, but ray, I thought the people out in the field, when they're catching the ball, they don't have gloves on.
9:25
Ray Comfort: Oh, they don't yeah, that's what I'm saying.
9:27
Emeal Zwayne: No, the guy behind the, behind the but don't people out in the field catch the ball with their bare?
9:31
Emeal Zwayne: Hands, yeah, yeah, that is human, that is a human hand rugby like football without helmet and pads, and then catching this.
9:39
Mark Spence: This basically a pool ball, yeah with your bare hands well you know, ray has a hypothesis as well when it comes to rugby.
9:45
Mark Spence: With american football, we wear helmets and it gives us a false sense of security that we're okay, that we can run in, and I think he's 100 right, you know and we start bashing each other's heads in and then we get concussions.
9:55
Mark Spence: Well, with rugby, I see them do the exact same thing, but without helmets oh well, not to mention you've.
10:02
Ray Comfort: You've got a an instinct to protect your head always when you hit the ground in american football wearing helmets.
10:08
Ray Comfort: You hit the ground, just bounce, and that's why you get the concussion.
10:10
Ray Comfort: Yeah, but mark, do you bounce more oil?
10:13
Emeal Zwayne: mark, you're right, they do.
10:14
Emeal Zwayne: They do it anyway.
10:15
Ray Comfort: Right, the same thing, except the bonuses they get cauliflower ears oh, on top of that disgusting that oh yeah, anyway, sorry if you for those who flower ears, just type in cauliflower ears, rugby players also for all of our professional finders listening right now, we'll give you easy's address.
10:30
Emeal Zwayne: That's true, your ears fighters and wrestlers get the cauliflower ears too.
10:35
Ray Comfort: No, thank you I had four sets of people at huntington beach get interviewed.
10:39
Ray Comfort: In each of them head cauliflower ears.
10:40
Ray Comfort: I thought what does god try to say to me, he that has ears to heal and I'm here, why do the ears.
10:45
Emeal Zwayne: Do that, why not?
10:46
Emeal Zwayne: And why is it this permanent?
10:47
Emeal Zwayne: Like you can get him drained, can you really but?
10:50
Mark Spence: even drained, yeah you didn't get a fluid.
10:53
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, is that what it is fluid in there, wait, you're telling me every person with cauliflower ears can have them.
10:57
Oscar Navarro: Non-collyflower well, no, because if you, I think, if you, you know what I don't know, I'm, I'm going on speaking you're making it up if you wait too long, you can't.
11:06
Ray Comfort: But I do know that some people have gotten their their ears drained so all of those that are listening with cauliflower ears, this is great news.
11:12
Emeal Zwayne: Feel free to love you, we love you, our friends.
11:16
Ray Comfort: All right, here's a easy as a cauliflower face that's how you know we are unedited moments like that exactly.
11:27
Emeal Zwayne: Okay, here's a comment from mason for life.
11:29
Emeal Zwayne: I love this podcast.
11:31
Emeal Zwayne: This podcast is second only to the bible and prayer for insight to overcoming temptation.
11:36
Emeal Zwayne: I particularly love when they sometimes mention my generations, generation z, over use of earbuds, earbuds and refer to them as two sewage pipes going into our ears.
11:47
Emeal Zwayne: I forgot this whole comments about ears.
11:49
Emeal Zwayne: I, although I always laugh and wonder what they would think of me listening to every podcast through my earbuds.
11:55
Emeal Zwayne: Thanks for the encouragement.
11:57
Oscar Navarro: Keep it up thank you, mason for life.
12:00
Emeal Zwayne: Hopefully you don't have cauliflower ears as you listen to those podcasts.
12:04
Emeal Zwayne: But what we think is, uh, it's wonderful, we're encouraged and uh, thank you for taking the time to write so you're saying we're coming up to about 200th program yeah, what can we do to celebrate that like a champagne against the wall?
12:16
Emeal Zwayne: we should light something on fire, we should have a taco man in here while we're doing the podcast, can you imagine?
12:21
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so there you have it, friends, and the spot guys was the 10 command you just like give up halfway through by the third episode.
12:31
Ray Comfort: He just stops saying it's called a cauliflower tongue oh, this podcast is about you.
12:38
Emeal Zwayne: By the 10 commandments coin friends.
12:41
Emeal Zwayne: Many of you don't know this, but we used to press pennies with our teeth.
12:45
Emeal Zwayne: Well, with our teeth, oh boy, those were the days.
12:49
Emeal Zwayne: Man, what did?
12:49
Mark Spence: you say with the eyes, or do with the eye teeth, what is that's?
12:53
Ray Comfort: right.
12:53
Ray Comfort: I used to joke that we press the pennies with our teeth and did the eyes with their eye teeth yeah, those were the days, man.
12:59
Ray Comfort: We used to get buckets and buckets or bags of pennies yeah and uh it had to be new pennies and we put them through this insane penny machine that would always break and when a break it gets white smoke that was poisonous.
13:10
Ray Comfort: Would come out of it, daniel, alive or horrified, because we can't.
13:13
Ray Comfort: Anything you touch mechanical doesn't get fixed so we got rick to do it.
13:17
Emeal Zwayne: Rick, he went sane, and then now the smoke poor guy.
13:21
Emeal Zwayne: And now we have the 10 commandments coin.
13:23
Emeal Zwayne: Friends, we didn't have to mess with all that, but it's a really cool silver coin.
13:27
Emeal Zwayne: It's got the commandments on one side the.
13:29
Ray Comfort: It is metal.
13:30
Ray Comfort: By the way, it's not plastic, it's metal yeah, it's metal.
13:32
Emeal Zwayne: 10 aluminum, aluminum I will say aluminum.
13:35
Oscar Navarro: This is one of my favorite things to be.
13:37
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13:43
Oscar Navarro: Kids love these things.
13:45
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13:50
Ray Comfort: And not only that I've never seen anyone rip one up yeah, so make sure to check that out, friends.
13:56
Emeal Zwayne: So it's got the gossips.
13:57
Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, ma'am.
13:58
Emeal Zwayne: So on side, the gospel on the other, and they're just great to give out.
14:01
Emeal Zwayne: There's a nice little bag with a dollar sign on it yeah 50 in a bag yeah, and there's also a gold one that you can give away as a gift.
14:09
Emeal Zwayne: It's not real gold, but it's gold that one yet.
14:11
Emeal Zwayne: Huh, it's not real gold it's 80 a coin, yeah, so make sure to check it out, friends.
14:17
Ray Comfort: And the living water is mug you can get the mug and fill it with coins the gold coin is a tremendous gift to give to relatives.
14:23
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, really, yeah, it's really, it's nice yeah, I think it's about five dollars or so, so it's not too expensive, but you know it's good enough to see value.
14:32
Ray Comfort: It looks like real gold.
14:33
Emeal Zwayne: It's not yeah, so make sure to check that out.
14:36
Emeal Zwayne: The living water is mug.
14:36
Emeal Zwayne: Fill it with coins and over.
14:38
Emeal Zwayne: Get the evidence.
14:38
Emeal Zwayne: Study bible at living waters dot com that's a good jingle.
14:45
Mark Spence: Do it again, but make it sound nice living waters dot com.
14:55
Emeal Zwayne: That was pretty, you have to admit I like it that was so bad.
15:00
Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, poor william tendell.
15:03
Emeal Zwayne: Of all of all the episodes, we have to have this kind of introduction for one of the greatest grace men of god of all time.
15:08
Emeal Zwayne: Yes, friends, we are today talking about bill tendail.
15:13
Emeal Zwayne: Willy t yeah, willy t uh.
15:16
Emeal Zwayne: Tendell guys, is more of a giant.
15:18
Emeal Zwayne: I think that most people realize I was listening to Steve Lawson's sermon about Tyndale and oh, it was so good.
15:26
Emeal Zwayne: I highly recommend it.
15:27
Emeal Zwayne: If you look it up on YouTube, I just put in.
15:30
Ray Comfort: Should we say who he is for those who don't know Steve Lawson, he's not Tyndale yeah, that's where I was heading.
15:36
Emeal Zwayne: Good, yeah, so Steve Lawson Just gives a lot of good insight I gleaned from some of it for this.
15:42
Emeal Zwayne: But yeah, tyndale was, he's a old-timer back, born back in?
15:47
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but he hails from from the.
15:58
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, for he was born in the 1400s, 1494, boy, I'm just botching this whole thing.
16:04
Emeal Zwayne: He was from Western England, right there near the Wales border, came from a rich family of land owners, went to Oxford at age 12 who didn't?
16:15
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that was actually normal back then, right, yeah, it was kind of preparatory.
16:19
Emeal Zwayne: They would go and they prepare them for the higher end college classes.
16:22
Emeal Zwayne: But he was within the realm of the whole Oxford.
16:25
Emeal Zwayne: What were you doing in 12?
16:26
Emeal Zwayne: Oh, boy, good lump.
16:27
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, what's the good rest?
16:29
Emeal Zwayne: He was at Oxford for 10 years and then he went on to Cambridge and there are some they call him the father of the English Bible.
16:37
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, he was the first to translate the Bible in English from the original languages, greek and Hebrew.
16:43
Emeal Zwayne: He did the whole New Testament, half of the old, and then died.
16:46
Emeal Zwayne: We'll talk about that.
16:48
Ray Comfort: We do.
16:48
Ray Comfort: What's that I hope we do?
16:51
Ray Comfort: I'm so horrified by what happened.
16:53
Emeal Zwayne: Oh, it's unbelievable ends up coming to Christ in 1519, and this was about two years before Luther nailed the 95 thesis to that church store and went and burgh.
17:03
Emeal Zwayne: Famously, he was basically born into the Reformation.
17:06
Emeal Zwayne: You know, if you would, and a lot of it what came down to?
17:10
Emeal Zwayne: What was going on back then at what was called the White Horse Inn near Cambridge, where people would get together and have Bible studies and study Luther's works also a great podcast.
17:20
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, michael Horton.
17:21
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's right, and and so he ends up.
17:27
Emeal Zwayne: No, michael Horton and some other guys at Westminster have a podcast called what horse in, yeah, and so that ended up, you know, he went to the White Horse Inn Gathering and ended up, you know, coming the grips with the fact, wow, this is what scripture says.
17:41
Emeal Zwayne: And he got you know, salvation by grace, through faith.
17:43
Emeal Zwayne: And he ends up getting born again and ends up going back near where he grew up and became a tutor for a wealthy family, kind of like their chaplain sort of.
17:55
Emeal Zwayne: And this priest comes over one day and they, they start having interactions, and the priest, one time, over dinner, as Tindall was coming, to realize, wow, the great majority of those that claimed it, no, god, right back then, that the Catholic Church, it was what, the, what was known as the church.
18:11
Emeal Zwayne: And he realized, wow, these people, the majority of them, don't know God, they're not converted.
18:17
Emeal Zwayne: And he realized it's because they don't have God's word.
18:20
Emeal Zwayne: And so he got, he began to get this passion to get the word translated into English.
18:25
Emeal Zwayne: It was illegal at that time to translate or to even own a translation of the Bible in English, and so so he's with this why is he?
18:35
Emeal Zwayne: power.
18:35
Emeal Zwayne: Well, yeah, the power of the Catholic Church.
18:38
Emeal Zwayne: It was in Latin and they kind of they determined the Latin is his language of the Bible, even though obviously it wasn't.
18:43
Emeal Zwayne: But they kind of made it that and most of the people didn't speak Latin, the common people.
18:48
Emeal Zwayne: So there was power and control.
18:49
Emeal Zwayne: If they don't know the word, then they, they can't criticize our unbiblical practices, which were for their own.
18:54
Emeal Zwayne: You know, wicked means right?
18:56
Emeal Zwayne: So, yeah, so the priest Basically ends up saying, hey, we're, we're better off having the Pope's law than God's law.
19:04
Emeal Zwayne: And this is where that famous quote came and then I'll open it up to you guys where Tindall said I defy the Pope and his laws.
19:11
Emeal Zwayne: If God spares my life, I will cause a plow boy to know more of scripture than the Pope in Rome.
19:17
Emeal Zwayne: Wow yeah, and so, yeah, from there, tindall heaped up a whole lot of trouble on himself.
19:23
Emeal Zwayne: He he went to his bishop, the bishop of London, thinking he'll support him in an English translation.
19:29
Emeal Zwayne: Because of political reasons he said no.
19:31
Oscar Navarro: And then Tindall knew he couldn't do it in England, so he hopped on a boat, flew to the European continent and Basically was there 12 years, yeah, and hiding you know, just thinking it's so easy for us to create our own Popes in our lives, and what I mean by that is that when we depend too heavily on our pastors Online preachers, whatever case to read our Bibles for us, to study our Bibles for us and then tell us what it says, we're basically pulling our own well-being back to pre-William Tindall, in other words, like he fought hard and ultimately lost his life so that you and I Could sit down with God's word and read it for ourselves.
20:12
Oscar Navarro: And I can't help but wonder how many people are satisfied letting someone else study God's word for them.
20:19
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's heavy mark and a lot of times we don't think about the sacrifice that others made to bring God's word to us and to preserve truth for us.
20:31
Emeal Zwayne: You know, we just think reformation.
20:33
Emeal Zwayne: Our mind just goes into this general Sort of realm of all the reformers.
20:38
Emeal Zwayne: They were great, but but man, they were paying with it for their blood many of them.
20:41
Mark Spence: It's left us kind of scratching our heads like why couldn't he finish the Old Testament?
20:46
Mark Spence: Why couldn't he do this?
20:47
Mark Spence: Why do they have so much opposition from the Pope?
20:50
Mark Spence: And we think we have to remember.
20:53
Mark Spence: You know, though, God uses people.
20:54
Mark Spence: He doesn't need people and you're done.
20:58
Mark Spence: When God says that you're done Right, I mean the apostle Paul.
21:01
Mark Spence: He wanted to reach the Jews and God says, no, I'm not going to have you reach the Jews, but it makes sense for Paul to reach the Jews.
21:09
Mark Spence: If anybody is Jewish, it would be Paul that is Jewish.
21:12
Mark Spence: He says, no, you're going to reach the Gentiles Right Within God's economy.
21:16
Mark Spence: It's so paradoxical, it makes no sense whatsoever.
21:20
Mark Spence: Somebody who seems to be so knowledgeable, so apt to be able to reach a people, and God says, no, I'm going to continue on with the next person.
21:29
Mark Spence: And we read the last chapter and we see that God wins.
21:32
Mark Spence: You know, I was in the British library and I was coming and I came across.
21:37
Mark Spence: There's only three of William Tyndale's New Testaments in existence that we know of, and one of them is there in the British library and I remember looking over at.
21:47
Ray Comfort: British Library.
21:50
Mark Spence: And the British Museum is completely different.
21:52
Mark Spence: But the British Library I'm looking over at it and I'm just kind of like tripping out.
21:57
Mark Spence: You know, looking at this, a lot of these New Testaments were purchased within the Catholic Church and then they were burned.
22:03
Mark Spence: You know, when they gathered them and I remember, just looking over at it, you know it's so colorful, right, these old texts and stuff we had left there.
22:12
Mark Spence: You know, it's kind of a surreal moment because of all that had happened.
22:14
Mark Spence: We were trying to get some witnessing encounters and we cross the bridge over there at the Tame River Was it, the Tame River, the.
22:25
Mark Spence: Tames, the Tames I'm trying to think of that.
22:27
Mark Spence: Is that what separates the London Eye?
22:29
Mark Spence: I think, it's the Tames, yeah, and so we come over to the other side and we have the big film crew and we're going through this garden and I look back and my wife disappeared and one of the cameraman goes you lost, laura.
22:40
Mark Spence: And I go baby, you got to keep up with us.
22:42
Mark Spence: I go, I don't want you to get lost.
22:44
Mark Spence: And I go over to her and she's just staring at the statue of William Tyndale that they have there in London.
22:51
Mark Spence: Wow, and just in awe of looking at it and the words, the inscription that is on there of amongst many other things amongst scriptures, where Lord opened the King of England's eyes, which is reported to be his last words that he had, that's right.
23:08
Mark Spence: And just a couple years after that, then the Bible became accessible and all the perishes correct.
23:17
Mark Spence: Yeah, and so, like my wife caught it right away and we walked right by it.
23:21
Mark Spence: You know the monument that was erected in his honor because of the work that he did for the English Bible Wow A huge.
23:29
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
23:29
Emeal Zwayne: And, ray Mark, I'm so glad you made that point, because I was thinking the same thing as I was, you know, reexamining Tyndale's life, and that is he didn't finish the Old Testament, but he did.
23:41
Mark Spence: Right.
23:41
Mark Spence: He finished the work which God set before Exactly.
23:44
Emeal Zwayne: And yet, Ray, logically speaking, we would look at that and thank God, this man, he never got married, Tyndale.
23:52
Emeal Zwayne: He basically spent 12 years in hiding with the single passion of getting God's word into the common language of the people.
23:58
Emeal Zwayne: And England was unique in that regard because almost every European country had the Bible in its common language except for England.
24:05
Emeal Zwayne: But, Ray, we would look at that and think logically God, why did you take him out before he could finish that work he was so passionate about?
24:12
Emeal Zwayne: But God works in ways we can't comprehend.
24:15
Ray Comfort: Same thing happened to Matthew Henry.
24:17
Ray Comfort: He didn't finish Matthew Henry's commentary, he died before he could.
24:20
Ray Comfort: Yeah, God's ways aren't our ways and we can't figure it, but I just got to share that.
24:25
Ray Comfort: I was delighted as I researched William Tyndale to see how evangelistic he was.
24:30
Ray Comfort: I didn't realize it.
24:31
Ray Comfort: You kind of think theologian Bible translator.
24:35
Ray Comfort: He's just in a little room by himself with a pen.
24:37
Emeal Zwayne: No way.
24:37
Ray Comfort: Right, but, like some of us quotes, the law and the gospel are two keys.
24:41
Ray Comfort: The law is the key that shuts up all men under condemnation and the gospel is the key which opens the door and lets them out.
24:48
Mark Spence: That shows me as ah, it's not just you know the God's law, blah, blah blah.
24:52
Ray Comfort: And so that delighted me to know this and that it also made me grieve even more with such a horrible death.
24:59
Ray Comfort: What was his crime?
24:59
Ray Comfort: We're going to look at that in a few minutes.
25:01
Ray Comfort: I get Right.
25:01
Ray Comfort: What was his?
25:02
Emeal Zwayne: crime.
25:02
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, exactly, and his impact is so massive and Ray, you nailed it right Again it was because he looked and saw hey, most of the people here in England aren't even converted.
25:14
Emeal Zwayne: Well, how do you convert people without the word of God?
25:17
Emeal Zwayne: They're left in darkness, you know, he said.
25:20
Emeal Zwayne: This is a quote from him.
25:21
Emeal Zwayne: He said I perceived how that it was impossible to establish the lay people in any truth, except the scripture were plainly laid before their eyes and their mother tongue.
25:30
Emeal Zwayne: I mean that's, and we just take it for granted.
25:33
Emeal Zwayne: I mean we have how many Bibles we have on our shelves?
25:35
Emeal Zwayne: And and, and really it traces its roots backs.
25:38
Emeal Zwayne: What happened was King Henry ended up realizing because the eighth yeah, henry, the eighth, right, you know, and he was, you know, he started to realize because he had one.
25:47
Emeal Zwayne: He, at one point he thought, okay, tyndale's having an impact, let me bring him into my court and let him kind of work with me.
25:54
Emeal Zwayne: Tyndale laid some conditions.
25:56
Emeal Zwayne: William didn't accept it, and so then he wouldn't let him back.
25:59
Ray Comfort: And then Tyndale didn't want to come back, you said William didn't accept it, henry didn't accept it.
26:04
Emeal Zwayne: Well, yeah, Henry wouldn't accept the conditions.
26:06
Ray Comfort: Oh, okay.
26:07
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and so he ends up staying.
26:09
Emeal Zwayne: But then they ended after he finished the translation, at least the New Testament.
26:13
Emeal Zwayne: They smuggled about 18 to 20,000 into England and even after Tyndale died the King started to see his influence.
26:20
Emeal Zwayne: It was like this is huge.
26:22
Emeal Zwayne: And then he, he commissioned a translation and and all that.
26:25
Emeal Zwayne: But Lawson called him the leading light of the English reformation.
26:30
Emeal Zwayne: He really sparked it.
26:32
Emeal Zwayne: You know, for England Martin Lloyd Jones called him the first Puritan, and then you extrapolate that right, because it was, it was through the word of God getting in England that the Puritans rose up.
26:43
Emeal Zwayne: From the Puritans came the Pilgrims.
26:45
Emeal Zwayne: The Pilgrims end up seeking religious freedom and come to America.
26:48
Emeal Zwayne: So our roots, even in this country, in a sense trace themselves back to Tyndale.
26:54
Ray Comfort: So was the printing press invented just before that, or?
26:57
Emeal Zwayne: The printer press was invented yeah, just just after, and that's where you know it became more possible to disseminate and print.
27:06
Emeal Zwayne: I mean I mean it was.
27:07
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it was, at first there were hand copies, and then the and then the printing press came in and that's where it started to spread, you know, with Luther and his works and Tyndale.
27:16
Emeal Zwayne: But yeah, I mean it was, it was phenomenal what God ended up doing.
27:22
Oscar Navarro: In the midst of that, you said we take for granted the fact that our Bibles are readily available to us.
27:26
Oscar Navarro: You're right, we Westerners, we who have Bibles readily available, we who have them on our phones, we who have 10 of them in our homes and hardly ever think about them or read them.
27:36
Oscar Navarro: But I remember hearing the story about this pastor that I met and he was in the business of smuggling Bibles into areas in which they're illegal and he was telling me this story about smuggling Bibles in the Middle East in just very dangerous locations.
27:49
Oscar Navarro: I mean we're talking about like Backpacking into countries because you knew you couldn't get him in there anywhere else for the sake of delivering the Bible.
27:57
Oscar Navarro: Yeah, and he said he told me the story about this one time, how they like walked down into this basement of this home and somewhere in the Middle East and he meets his group of people and and he pulls out the Bibles and he starts handing them off and this one lady hands it to her and she just starts weeping.
28:12
Oscar Navarro: He said she clutched it into her Chast and fell to the ground and started crying and when she was finally like done, sobbing, she explained to him that she had been a Christian for ten years and only had seen a Bible once and never owned one for herself, which makes me just realize like she understood something about the word of God and the power that it has and the way in which he Reveals himself to us through the word.
28:45
Oscar Navarro: That made her cherish it.
28:47
Oscar Navarro: And if I'm being honest like that gives me Conviction.
28:50
Oscar Navarro: Yeah, I don't cherish my Bible the way she did.
28:54
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I heard stories back in the day, you know, when the, when the Soviet Union opened up to the world, communism fell.
29:00
Emeal Zwayne: I remember someone talking about how, you know, they were going over to the the Soviet Union and they were giving out Bibles, and they just talked about how people would take them and like, go and and hold them, hold them to their chest and just begin to weep like I have God's word, you know, and here our Bibles are sitting on shelves collecting dust.
29:21
Emeal Zwayne: You know it's it's, it's really tragic and you know, mark, the Lord is gracious to not only give us his word, ray Comfort.
29:33
Ray Comfort: Yes, no, not a question.
29:34
Ray Comfort: Got a YouTube.
29:36
Ray Comfort: There's a video called missionary footage captures a motion of Chinese Christians receiving Bibles for the first time.
29:42
Ray Comfort: Wow, it's only fifty, say fifty seven seconds long, but you see them all weeping and crying, just like what you're talking about.
29:48
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah yeah, the blessings that we have mark.
29:53
Emeal Zwayne: You know we often talk about the number of Different Bibles you can get on your phone, you know.
30:00
Mark Spence: I think twenty thousand.
30:00
Mark Spence: Yeah caps on your phone.
30:02
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I was twenty thousand absolute, yeah, bibles and and not just that but but even Biblical helps and commentaries and Greek and Hebrew lexicons and Books, and I mean even biographies like Willie tees, william Tyndale's life and stuff like that.
30:22
Emeal Zwayne: What can you say to believers right now to stir them, especially the young ones listening to us again, not ex, I'm not exclusively them, because doesn't matter what age you are, but but especially the younger ones who have more energy and time and brain power what would you say to them to encourage them to buy up the time when it comes to making use of these things?
30:40
Emeal Zwayne: We're right in pair, yeah.
30:43
Mark Spence: You know it's a good question.
30:44
Mark Spence: I, I mean, I wish I knew what that secret sauce was to do that?
30:48
Mark Spence: How many times have we desired to maybe go back in the past and Maybe relive something?
30:55
Mark Spence: Oftentimes we'll hear somebody ask the question you know, what would you say to a, an 18 year old?
31:01
Mark Spence: Mark Spence when an 18 year old is, is setting us up.
31:03
Mark Spence: Yeah, and I say that to kids all the time.
31:07
Mark Spence: What I would do, you know, and what I would study, how I would redeem the time.
31:10
Mark Spence: And I think the best thing we could do is be an example, because I don't know how to light that fire underneath someone unless you have that fire yourself.
31:19
Mark Spence: That's the how flows, the overflow of your life, where somebody looks in and says man, I want to mirror that behavior and that passion.
31:26
Mark Spence: And may we have and see Speakers and preachers raised up, where somebody leaves and says I want to know God the way they know God.
31:37
Mark Spence: Typically, what do we have?
31:38
Mark Spence: Somebody shows him, says I want to preach the way he preaches.
31:42
Mark Spence: Or we go to a concert man, I wish I could play and sing the way he plays and sings.
31:45
Mark Spence: No, something is entirely different and foreign.
31:49
Mark Spence: What we need to know our God in such a way that when we talk about that, it becomes contagious behavior, covacius and desirous from an individual who says I want to know God, the way you're talking about God, and that would start with us.
32:06
Mark Spence: So I think that that starts in that of remote place when nobody's looking, that we're not just treating the Bible as a textbook, but that blue book and and to crave it and to yearn for it and say, lord, unless you speak to me, I'm here in vain.
32:20
Mark Spence: Search me and try me and see if there be any wicked way in me and lead me in the way everlasting.
32:24
Mark Spence: And there will be.
32:26
Mark Spence: As Was it Martin Luther Ray who said get on fire from God and people come from.
32:31
Mark Spence: John Wesley, that's right.
32:32
Mark Spence: Get on fire for God and people come from miles around to watch you burn.
32:35
Mark Spence: That.
32:37
Mark Spence: That is what are we doing Individually?
32:39
Mark Spence: How many times have we listened to a sermon and said, man, I wish so and so was here.
32:42
Mark Spence: That was perfect for them.
32:43
Mark Spence: Yeah, no, we need to kind of stop thinking like that to some degree and To take things more personal, and I think that that fire will be carried off onto our kids and their friends and Surrounding, but it starts with us.
32:56
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I'm on, yeah and so.
33:00
Emeal Zwayne: So, ray, let's get to Tyndale's death.
33:03
Emeal Zwayne: And and what happened?
33:05
Emeal Zwayne: He was again in hiding.
33:07
Emeal Zwayne: He went to Germany, which, because of what was going on with the Reformation, he knew that he'd be safe there.
33:12
Emeal Zwayne: And so he goes there.
33:14
Emeal Zwayne: He's in hiding.
33:15
Emeal Zwayne: They always wanted to get him right.
33:17
Emeal Zwayne: They always wanted it to be able to get him to put him to death like they did with, they tried to do with all the reformers, but they couldn't get to him until finally, the sky named Henry Phillips, who was quite a loser there's another way to put it but he was.
33:33
Emeal Zwayne: What do you really think he was really, he was known to be a real kind of dirtbag and he was an Englishman.
33:38
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, an Englishman, and he ended up sort of infiltrating that community and pretending like he wanted to kind of learn from.
33:45
Oscar Navarro: I was like a spy.
33:46
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, he was a Judas good way to put it, yeah.
33:48
Emeal Zwayne: And so one day he ends up convincing Tyndale to go out to lunch with him, and so they they're leaving the place where Tyndale was hiding, and they were ready for him and they caught him.
33:58
Emeal Zwayne: You know, basically he was in, he was in Brussels, in Belgium.
34:01
Emeal Zwayne: They ended up putting him to death, so they strangled him first.
34:08
Ray Comfort: That's it sounds.
34:09
Ray Comfort: I'd prefer strangulation to burning to death.
34:13
Emeal Zwayne: Well, it was a mercy, because he was a scholar you know, it was not kind of like an honoring him, he was a scholar.
34:18
Emeal Zwayne: When, I gonna let you, they did burn him.
34:19
Emeal Zwayne: After that they did but they didn't.
34:20
Emeal Zwayne: They didn't burn him alive, so they strangled him.
34:23
Ray Comfort: But that's not exactly exciting, because the blood vessels in your eyes burst when you're strangling horrible.
34:29
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so they did that.
34:31
Emeal Zwayne: And then they put gunpowder all around his body, let him on fire.
34:37
Emeal Zwayne: He basically blew up as one ended up happening to him and, as you had mentioned, ray, his last words God opened the eyes of the King of England.
34:45
Ray Comfort: That was Mark that mentioned that, oh, but although he did say it, yeah, mark.
34:50
Emeal Zwayne: It was Mark yeah.
34:51
Ray Comfort: So what was his crime again?
34:53
Emeal Zwayne: Translating the Bible into the people's car Heresy.
34:56
Emeal Zwayne: It makes me use.
34:59
Ray Comfort: He was fume when I think of his death, but I didn't mean it as a Fume yeah yeah, so his crime was translating the Bible.
35:07
Ray Comfort: Yeah, how evil is that.
35:09
Ray Comfort: And, by the way, it was the Catholic Church that did that.
35:12
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it was.
35:13
Emeal Zwayne: And so, you know, we look back on all of this and I love that saying that says Jesus should receive the reward of his suffering and that's applicable, right.
35:25
Emeal Zwayne: But I think we're so individualistic, so narcissistic, so egocentric as a culture and it's crept into the church that we don't ever think about honoring the memory and the sacrifice of those that have gone before us.
35:40
Emeal Zwayne: It's just all about us, you know, and man like, how heartbroken would Tyndale be to see God's Word now in the hands of the masses in the English language and yet just neglect it.
35:53
Emeal Zwayne: Never memorize scripture, never study scripture, never meditate on scripture.
35:59
Emeal Zwayne: It's an utter travesty.
36:02
Emeal Zwayne: And, ray, there's a spiritual warfare dynamic involved in getting into God's Word.
36:10
Emeal Zwayne: I mean, you did a video not long ago about the satanic and demonic activity when you start to share the gospel with someone.
36:18
Emeal Zwayne: You showed there's a picture of the girl on the thumbnail and her eyes are like looking away.
36:21
Emeal Zwayne: That happens right in witnessing, absolutely.
36:25
Ray Comfort: Yeah, I wish I could have filmed when I was witnessing to Diana the what was the Carlos?
36:30
Ray Comfort: I couldn't believe the spiritual warfare that was going on.
36:34
Ray Comfort: I would remember I was in a college and a guy comes along and sort of tractor making a noise.
36:38
Ray Comfort: I said to Carlos oh Diana.
36:42
Ray Comfort: I said Carlos, what's he going to do?
36:45
Ray Comfort: Get a chainsaw out.
36:46
Ray Comfort: And saw down the tree.
36:47
Ray Comfort: Two minutes later he did.
36:48
Ray Comfort: It wasn't a proper chainsaw but I was like he's cutting down the tree.
36:53
Ray Comfort: I thought, man, this is a battle.
36:55
Ray Comfort: So we just waited for that to pass.
36:57
Ray Comfort: And then helicopters come over, almost hover over the top of us, and I said there's a battle going on here for what we're talking about.
37:06
Ray Comfort: And he smiled because he understood that.
37:08
Ray Comfort: But yeah, and so basically what came against Tyndale was demonic forces.
37:14
Ray Comfort: Yeah, satan didn't like what he did.
37:17
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and Mark, that same diabolical fallen angel and his minions are still at work in that regard.
37:26
Emeal Zwayne: When it comes to us getting into the word, like with witnessing, there's that spiritual warfare.
37:30
Emeal Zwayne: We see it in getting into God's word too, don't we?
37:33
Mark Spence: Yeah, we just need to do it.
37:36
Mark Spence: Nike has that mantra just do it.
37:40
Mark Spence: And their logo.
37:41
Mark Spence: By the way, they paid $35 for that logo.
37:44
Ray Comfort: Somebody's missed out on a lot of my days.
37:46
Emeal Zwayne: Someone just did it.
37:46
Emeal Zwayne: They ended up actually giving them more money later.
37:50
Ray Comfort: Oh, did they really.
37:51
Ray Comfort: It's $15.
37:52
Emeal Zwayne: They got it up to $50.
37:54
Mark Spence: Yeah $16.
37:55
Mark Spence: Yeah, we just need to do it.
37:56
Mark Spence: How many times are emotions and our thoughts?
37:59
Mark Spence: I kind of get the best of us.
38:00
Mark Spence: We're just kind of wondering where we're at.
38:02
Mark Spence: First thing I do when I wake up in the morning is I read the word, and I'm a way to work.
38:06
Mark Spence: I usually go back and forth between a couple of different audiobooks and I was thinking, no, I want to get back into the word.
38:13
Mark Spence: So I just continued on listening to the word on the way.
38:17
Mark Spence: But there are so many distractions and so many lies and the only way you'll know what truth is is if you get inside the word, and if you're not inside the word, you're going to believe lies are true.
38:27
Mark Spence: So we need to hide God's word inside of us more than anything and become more convinced that God is real than what we see around us is real.
38:35
Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, oscar.
38:37
Emeal Zwayne: For people listening who may be newer believers or even who have been believers for a long time, but they're like I just don't even know where to start.
38:44
Emeal Zwayne: Like where do I start in the Bible?
38:46
Emeal Zwayne: Okay, I start in Genesis, that's fine.
38:48
Emeal Zwayne: I get into Exodus okay I.
38:50
Emeal Zwayne: Then I get into Leviticus, numbers Deuteronomy.
38:53
Emeal Zwayne: It can be painstaking and then they feel lost.
38:58
Emeal Zwayne: So what do you recommend in terms of where should someone start if they want to become a serious student of the word?
39:04
Ray Comfort: The evidence.
39:04
Emeal Zwayne: Bible.
39:04
Emeal Zwayne: I live in waterscom no no, no the evidence study.
39:09
Oscar Navarro: Bible.
39:10
Oscar Navarro: First let me just say that I've been there, I've shared with you before.
39:16
Oscar Navarro: When I first became a Christian I kind of I was like, oh man, I'm a Christian.
39:21
Emeal Zwayne: There's a joke behind that, oh man Christian.
39:24
Oscar Navarro: But I went, you know, someone was like you need to get yourself a Bible.
39:27
Oscar Navarro: I went to a boarder's book store and I remember looking up the shelf and there was like hundreds of Bibles and there was different options and I didn't know what NIV was in KJB, you know, and for whatever reason, the first Bible I grabbed, pulled off the shelf, looked at the price tag and it was like a hundred bucks and I was like no way and I put it back and I walked away because I didn't understand the value of God's word and I didn't know which Bible to get.
39:52
Oscar Navarro: Somebody gifted me God's word and I remember sitting down and studying it for the first time and it being incredibly difficult and, if I'm being honest, it was incredibly boring.
40:03
Ray Comfort: We just started.
40:05
Oscar Navarro: I don't remember Probably Genesis, which is really good.
40:07
Oscar Navarro: Now I realize it.
40:08
Oscar Navarro: Was it a preface?
40:09
Oscar Navarro: It was a preface.
40:10
Oscar Navarro: Yeah, that's what it was.
40:11
Oscar Navarro: But here's my point.
40:13
Oscar Navarro: First, I've been there before.
40:14
Oscar Navarro: If you're a new believer, if you haven't read the Bible in a while, if you're not a believer and you just want to sit down and read it, here's something that I've learned is that anytime I come to a place where there's tension between me and God's word, it's not because there's something inherently wrong with God's word.
40:30
Oscar Navarro: It's because there's something wrong with me.
40:31
Oscar Navarro: I'm not used to the beauty and the goodness and the power that's available to us and I've used this metaphor before, but I will continue to use it because I think it's so helpful and that is that there isn't a type of acquired taste for the beauty of God's word, but once you acquire it, a world, a kingdom opens up to you that is so satisfying to your soul.
41:04
Oscar Navarro: So the answer to your question, the first thing I would say, is don't give up on it.
41:08
Oscar Navarro: The second thing I would say is make it easy.
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Oscar Navarro: Study it with a friend, pick a Bible study.
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Oscar Navarro: There's so many amazing Bible studies out there that will walk you through small portions of God's word and help you understand the narrative that's happening there.
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Oscar Navarro: So make it easy, use tools and resources that are available to you so that you have an easy route to understand the power that's available to you in the Word of.
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Emeal Zwayne: God Even sermons online.
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Emeal Zwayne: We have so much available in that regard.
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Emeal Zwayne: And if, mark, someone just finds a series on a book in the Bible from a trusted Bible teacher and starts to just listen through that, that'll kind of give them a sense, especially if it's a good exposer.
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Emeal Zwayne: It'll give them a good sense of Scripture and kind of help them.
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Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
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Mark Spence: You know I was talking about commentaries not too long ago.
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Mark Spence: Somebody says, I'm sorry, what is a commentary?
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Mark Spence: And we kind of take that word for granted, but it really is supposed to come from a trusted teacher who's going to come alongside you and explain different things that you're reading and, if you're starting to dive deeper inside the Word, there are a lot of really great books and commentators and commentaries out there I might recommend to somebody.
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Mark Spence: Ray had mentioned Matthew Henry.
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Mark Spence: It's a free commentary that you can get online because he is so old and it's past copyright, public domain.
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Mark Spence: Yeah, you know the B series with Warren Wearsby.
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Mark Spence: You know another great place to start.
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Mark Spence: But then there's some really great people that are live today, like John MacArthur, who has exposited through God's Word.
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Mark Spence: When we say exposited, it means just opening up God's Word and telling us what it says.
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Mark Spence: What did the original author mean and say when he was writing to the original audience?
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Mark Spence: And puts proper culture and customs and traditions in their proper place.
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Mark Spence: Yeah, right, so there's a lot of really good commentaries and commentators that are out there.
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Mark Spence: Start with somebody simple perhaps, like Warren Wearsby or Matthew Henry.
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Ray Comfort: Yeah, also, the Amplified Bible is a great way to understand Scripture.
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Ray Comfort: So when I have read the whole Amplified Bible, I'm holding back from making the usual joke.
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Ray Comfort: We kept the neighbors awake because we're reading it so loud.
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Ray Comfort: But yeah, it's just great to read because it takes Jesus wept and opens it up and it's a 40 minute read of that verse, yeah.
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Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, there's just so so much available to us.
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Emeal Zwayne: And also getting a book that helps you understand the Bible.
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Emeal Zwayne: There are books on how to read the Bible, very simple ones.
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Emeal Zwayne: I mean just a plethora of them, if you just look them up online and then you can learn the different genres in Scripture the prophetic and the poetic, and the epistles in the New Testament and the gospels and the apocalyptic, which is the book of Revelation, and then you start to kind of get a sense for hey, this is what it is.
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Emeal Zwayne: And then hermeneutics we've done an episode on that before and that's how to interpret Scripture, how to understand it in its proper context.
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Emeal Zwayne: So there's so much out there, and thank God for a man like William Tyndale, who was willing to stand up and risk his life and go against the flow in order to touch others, and you know he's been said by some to also be the father of the modern English language.
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Emeal Zwayne: English wasn't really standardized back in that time.
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Emeal Zwayne: The dictionary, like a real solid English dictionary, didn't come out until the 1700s, and so he really helped to create more of a standard and even coined like lots of phrases through his translation, which carried up phrases like in the twinkling of an eye, a moment in time.
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Emeal Zwayne: Let there be light, my brother's keeper.
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Emeal Zwayne: Signs of the times lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
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Emeal Zwayne: Steve Lawson highlighted all these, so that's you know it's.
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Emeal Zwayne: It's amazing what an impact he ended up having.
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Ray Comfort: And speaking of giving out God's word, if you're a layperson and you want to do something wonderful, join the Gideons International.
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Ray Comfort: I was in for seven years I think Scotty's in it, my son Daniel's in it where they give out Bibles to hotels and motels and schools and, all over the place, millions and millions of copies of God's word.
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Oscar Navarro: So if Tyndale had caught a glimpse of even just what the Gideons do, he would have been kind of excited, that's good you know we talked about the reality that William Tyndale would look now and see so many people in our culture just have Bibles sitting around doing nothing and he would be burdened.
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Oscar Navarro: The flip side of that is, I think William Tyndale would be so blessed that God used his faithfulness, that there are millions of Christians that are sitting around having devotions with their children opening God's word in English Amen.
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Oscar Navarro: So God has done a good work with his faithfulness.
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Oscar Navarro: Yeah, big time.
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Emeal Zwayne: So, yeah, so praise God for that, and friends, again, we mention it every podcast.
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Emeal Zwayne: We do it for a reason and this is fitting as we're talking about the translation of God's word in English but the evidence study Bible is just a huge resource that we believe can help you, and a lot of you who have been listeners to the podcast have gotten it and you have written and have told us wow, this has really impacted my life.
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Emeal Zwayne: So it's the Bible, and Ray has compiled a lot of wonderful information.
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Emeal Zwayne: A lot of it has been contributed by himself, but other quotes and answers to objections and difficult questions and anecdotes, and I mean it's, it's packed and we think you'll be encouraged by it.
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