Latest / Real America with Dan Ball / 8/5/26 -- Dan Ball W/ Rep. Andy Ogles, Bob Bianchi, Jonathan Sacerdoti, Randy Sutton, Dr. Carole Lieberman.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Straight ahead on Real America.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Tonight, an armed psycho arrested at President Trump's golf club
- 0:05Speaker 2: in LA after he got caught spying on security with
- 0:09Speaker 2: a gun and AMMO before the president arrived or not
- 0:12Speaker 2: the latest information, no spin on what I'm calling the
- 0:16Speaker 2: fourth attempt on forty seven's life. Plus socialists and Muslims
- 0:22Speaker 2: are taking over forget that they've taken over the Democrat
- 0:25Speaker 2: Party period. More wins last night in primaries across this country. Folks,
- 0:31Speaker 2: these are terrifying times, and we'd better start paying attention and.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Speaking of Islam.
- 0:37Speaker 2: A British commentator there he is, will stop buy for
- 0:40Speaker 2: an exclusive interview about his speech at Oxford and why
- 0:44Speaker 2: we in every single Western civilization nation should reject Islam.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Now. I'm dan Ball and Little America starts right now. Good.
- 1:06Speaker 2: When's even to you, folks who begin the program with
- 1:09Speaker 2: yet another would be assassination attempt on President Donald J.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Trump?
- 1:16Speaker 2: As we speak, a thirty eight year old psycho. Look
- 1:20Speaker 2: at his pick right here. I don't even want to
- 1:23Speaker 2: say his name. I don't want to give him any publicity,
- 1:26Speaker 2: but he was arrested yesterday at President Trump's National Golf
- 1:29Speaker 2: Club in Los Angeles. He was found carrying a gun
- 1:33Speaker 2: and ammunition his car. I guess he had it set
- 1:37Speaker 2: up with I don't know, monitoring devices. He was literally
- 1:41Speaker 2: waiting for Trump's arrival for an RNC fundraiser. He's in
- 1:46Speaker 2: custody now, not on big enough bond or bail for me,
- 1:49Speaker 2: probably because of a liberal judge in California. The clown
- 1:53Speaker 2: pleaded not guilty to federal and state criminal charges. His
- 1:58Speaker 2: next court appearance in a few weeks, again at bail
- 2:01Speaker 2: only set at two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Welcome
- 2:07Speaker 2: to Los Angeles, folks. You can have a pistol, a rifle.
- 2:11Speaker 2: I think he had some bounty hunter badge with him
- 2:13Speaker 2: or whatever, and you could be sitting outside waiting to
- 2:15Speaker 2: kill a sitting president and they'll just give you two
- 2:18Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars bail in Comifornia. Think about that.
- 2:23Speaker 2: More information is coming to light. President Trump's already commented
- 2:27Speaker 2: on the situation. But let's go over some basics first.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Shall we.
- 2:31Speaker 2: The suspect was seen walking around the grounds. He was
- 2:35Speaker 2: wearing an earpiece we call them IFBs. I wear one
- 2:39Speaker 2: in the media in my ear He was seen taking pictures.
- 2:43Speaker 2: He was seen videotaping the facility on his phone.
- 2:47Speaker 1: Federal agency.
- 2:48Speaker 2: They first spotted him on July thirty first, then he
- 2:53Speaker 2: came back days later and was examining the facility again. Gee,
- 2:57Speaker 2: what's that called casing the joint? That's when he approached
- 3:04Speaker 2: the Feds falsely claimed that he worked for the state Department.
- 3:10Speaker 1: Talk about O Waco.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Thankfully, he was apprehended again in custody at least for now.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Law enforcement searched him and here's what they found. I
- 3:20Speaker 2: think we have the images to back it up. Multi
- 3:24Speaker 2: round magazines. He had hollow point ammo want to do
- 3:28Speaker 2: some damage. They also found another gun I think it
- 3:31Speaker 2: was an AR fifteen and then also either a nine
- 3:34Speaker 2: millimeter or a forty cow And then again there's the badge.
- 3:38Speaker 2: He had this security looking badge.
- 3:40Speaker 1: I read on it. There it is right there. What's
- 3:42Speaker 1: that say?
- 3:42Speaker 2: Bail enforcement, fugitive recovery. That's a bail bondsman type badge,
- 3:46Speaker 2: right like a bounty hunter. On top of all this, you're.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Ready for it.
- 3:51Speaker 2: This clown was out on bail and under investigation for
- 3:56Speaker 2: a case of second degree robbery connected to an incident
- 4:00Speaker 2: of November last year in the La Area. Of course
- 4:02Speaker 2: he was thankfully the psycho was stopped. But as I
- 4:06Speaker 2: said at the beginning, I say, this is the fourth
- 4:09Speaker 2: attempt on the President's life in the last two and
- 4:11Speaker 2: a half years, and the president realizes it too.
- 4:15Speaker 1: He responded the situation by saying that he.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Takes a little bit of solace in believing his presidency
- 4:20Speaker 2: has been consequential, as killers only target consequential presidents. Now
- 4:26Speaker 2: we're all left wondering who the hell is this guy?
- 4:29Speaker 2: Was he acting alone? And will they actually throw the
- 4:32Speaker 2: book at him in Los Angeles County. I won't hold
- 4:35Speaker 2: my breath joining me now to discuss this fourth attempt
- 4:39Speaker 2: on President Trump's life. Retired Las Vegas Police lieutenant and
- 4:43Speaker 2: founder of Wounded Blue Randy Sutton, I think we just
- 4:46Speaker 2: saw him last night back on the program.
- 4:47Speaker 1: Randy. I didn't think you'd be back on.
- 4:49Speaker 2: This soon, but I didn't think we'd be learning about
- 4:52Speaker 2: yet another plot. And so I know some organizations, more
- 4:55Speaker 2: liberal ones are saying two or three attempts. We had
- 4:58Speaker 2: mister Crooks and Butler, we had mister Routh. What weeks
- 5:02Speaker 2: later on the Florida golf course, we had the psycho
- 5:05Speaker 2: at the Correspondence dinner in Washington, DC a couple months ago,
- 5:08Speaker 2: and now we have this nutbag in Los Angeles. Four
- 5:12Speaker 2: times in two years people are trying to kill our president, Randy.
- 5:18Speaker 3: And those are the only ones that we know about.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Oh, perfect point.
- 5:22Speaker 4: You know, you know that there have been other plots
- 5:24Speaker 4: that have been foiled by the Secret Service and other
- 5:27Speaker 4: law enforcement agencies.
- 5:29Speaker 3: But I think we can all understand that the.
- 5:34Speaker 4: Fact that that four that were this of this magnitude
- 5:40Speaker 4: have come to light in just two years is pretty
- 5:44Speaker 4: well shocking. Except nothing shocks me when it comes down
- 5:48Speaker 4: to the Trump derangement syndrome that is enveloped enveloped America
- 5:54Speaker 4: and also of foreign nationals as well, because we do
- 5:59Speaker 4: know that there was another plot by the Iranian government
- 6:03Speaker 4: to take out our president as well.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Right, and an Iranians stright team.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Great point, exactly, that's right.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Okay, what do you know about this guy?
- 6:11Speaker 2: By the way, besides what I put out their previous
- 6:13Speaker 2: charge out on bail. Of course, you can do I
- 6:17Speaker 2: don't know what the term is, but you can do
- 6:18Speaker 2: a heavy armed robbery and get.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Out on bail and you're walking in the streets with
- 6:22Speaker 1: your guns.
- 6:23Speaker 2: This guy should have been locked up for that charge
- 6:25Speaker 2: until he went to trial for it November.
- 6:27Speaker 1: But no, it's La Randy, it's La Well.
- 6:30Speaker 4: Yeah, and the reality is that in California they embraced
- 6:35Speaker 4: the no bail, low bail with great vehemence. And we
- 6:40Speaker 4: don't know the full We don't know the full record
- 6:42Speaker 4: of this individual. We just know that he was out
- 6:44Speaker 4: on bail on a on a robbery charge and so
- 6:49Speaker 4: that that couldn't have been his first rodeo either. So
- 6:51Speaker 4: it'd be very interesting to see what the other, uh
- 6:55Speaker 4: other criminal record encompassed.
- 6:58Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
- 6:59Speaker 4: Right now, there are a number of state charges against him,
- 7:03Speaker 4: but we all know that state charges don't really mean
- 7:06Speaker 4: a lot in California, go.
- 7:08Speaker 3: So let's hope that the Department of Justice has enough to.
- 7:13Speaker 4: Work some federal magic on him as well, where hopefully
- 7:16Speaker 4: he won't get out with a little slap in the
- 7:19Speaker 4: wrist and hey, promise to appear in court.
- 7:22Speaker 2: Listen, you were out in the streets of Vegas for
- 7:24Speaker 2: decades busting bad guys that committed some heinous crimes. I mean,
- 7:26Speaker 2: if you had some drug dealing guy that murdered somebody
- 7:29Speaker 2: and you risked your life to apprehend him. You'd want
- 7:31Speaker 2: that DA to probably set in the judge that bail
- 7:34Speaker 2: it like maybe a couple million, and keep his butt
- 7:36Speaker 2: in jail till he went to trial, wouldn't you, as
- 7:38Speaker 2: the KAPU risked his life.
- 7:41Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely. And the fact that better is this guy
- 7:43Speaker 3: is clearly a threat. I mean, this wasn't a sudden act.
- 7:49Speaker 4: It's my understanding that they did search warrants on his
- 7:54Speaker 4: residence as well as his car, and they discovered some
- 7:58Speaker 4: that this was a long term plot that he has
- 8:02Speaker 4: been working on. Here you go, and of course you
- 8:05Speaker 4: know they're going to try and determined if he's got
- 8:07Speaker 4: any anybody else that he's been working with or that
- 8:10Speaker 4: may have contributed to the plot here. So all of
- 8:15Speaker 4: this once again shows that the President of the United
- 8:18Speaker 4: States is under constant threat every single moment.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Yeah, that's scary.
- 8:26Speaker 2: So if everybody out there trash talking our president that
- 8:28Speaker 2: used to be part of our Mega America First movement
- 8:31Speaker 2: because you're pissed off about gas prices or the war
- 8:34Speaker 2: in Iran or not enough Epstein files coming out, Remember
- 8:37Speaker 2: the guy is literally, as Randy just said, under threat
- 8:39Speaker 2: of his life every day. Trying to do what he
- 8:42Speaker 2: can as president of the United States before I lose you.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Randy, I know that you.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Lost one of your boys in blue over there with
- 8:48Speaker 2: Metro in Vegas where he used to work, gunn down
- 8:50Speaker 2: in the line of duty.
- 8:51Speaker 1: This was a Marine corpsvette.
- 8:53Speaker 2: He had a wife, young, young cop, only on the
- 8:55Speaker 2: force for a few years. They show up in some
- 8:57Speaker 2: crazy guy just ambushed him, killed him yesterday. I'll give
- 9:01Speaker 2: you the final seconds here to honor him.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Randy.
- 9:04Speaker 3: Yeah, this is so disgusting to me.
- 9:07Speaker 4: Officer Abdelnami of the Las AGAs Metropolitan Police Department, also
- 9:12Speaker 4: a for or A, served as a Marine Corps serviceman
- 9:18Speaker 4: before he joined the Metropolitan Police.
- 9:20Speaker 3: Was a cop for three years.
- 9:22Speaker 4: Leaves behind a young wife and a grieving city. Killed
- 9:27Speaker 4: ambushed before he could as he got out of his
- 9:30Speaker 4: car yesterday. The suspect is dead and that's the only
- 9:34Speaker 4: good news in this story.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Yep.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Well, anytime somebody that's out protecting and defending us goes
- 9:39Speaker 2: down the line of duty, I like to honor him.
- 9:41Speaker 2: And thankfully, as Randy informed me, his partner showed up
- 9:44Speaker 2: and killed the threat. This was a simple domestic call
- 9:48Speaker 2: of there's a guy with a gun, they show up,
- 9:50Speaker 2: they get ambushed. Those are the guys in the front
- 9:53Speaker 2: lines every day, folks. So when I hear the left
- 9:54Speaker 2: saying defund the police, I say, read between the lines, sobs,
- 9:59Speaker 2: we honor that falling off Randy, thank you brother for
- 10:01Speaker 2: coming on.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
- 10:02Speaker 3: Thanks Ed.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Yep, God bless all right. Coming up after the break,
- 10:06Speaker 1: guess what more?
- 10:07Speaker 2: Democrat socialists and radical Muslims one Democrat primaries last night
- 10:11Speaker 2: across our country, which should give each and every red
- 10:14Speaker 2: blooded American patriot pause.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Why is this happening?
- 10:18Speaker 2: And how can we stop them from ruining our republic. Plus,
- 10:23Speaker 2: we're going to dive into the bizarre triple murder trial
- 10:25Speaker 2: of Lindsay Clancy, the Massachusetts mom accused of strangler three kids.
- 10:30Speaker 2: Then a bit later, a warning from one of our
- 10:32Speaker 2: friends across the pond about Islam and how their way
- 10:36Speaker 2: of life in the UK is now unrecognizable thanks to
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- 11:18Speaker 2: Welcome back now to our continuing coverage of the mid
- 11:21Speaker 2: terms and the build up to Big November. We saw
- 11:23Speaker 2: some major primary elections last night in several key states.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Here's the takeaway, folks, you better listen up closely. On
- 11:31Speaker 2: the Democrat side, Socialists, let's call them communists and Muslims
- 11:36Speaker 2: are taking over the Democrat Party. If you're my age,
- 11:38Speaker 2: you're older, and I know most of you watching are.
- 11:41Speaker 2: This isn't the Kennedy Democrat Party. Hell, this isn't even
- 11:44Speaker 2: the Bill Clinton progressive Liberal Democrat Party or the Obama Liberal.
- 11:49Speaker 2: This is insane. Socialist candidates are winning pivotal races. I'm
- 11:55Speaker 2: not talking for like a small town mayor city council
- 11:58Speaker 2: or school board, which is still very impactful. We're talking
- 12:01Speaker 2: about United States Senate and they're crushing the regular Democrats.
- 12:08Speaker 2: This is a bad sign. Of what's to come if
- 12:11Speaker 2: we don't get the vote out come November. The problem
- 12:15Speaker 2: is real and it's not isolated. Tuesday night, five states
- 12:18Speaker 2: held primary elections again offices ranging from Congress to governor
- 12:22Speaker 2: to the Senate, and moderate Democrats got beat everywhere, especially
- 12:27Speaker 2: in Michigan. Let's head there a Muslim socialist named Abdul
- 12:31Speaker 2: ale Sayed beat the crazy kookie Congress. When we told
- 12:35Speaker 2: you about who was a local state legislator, Haley Stevens.
- 12:38Speaker 2: He could become our first Muslim senator. This is the
- 12:41Speaker 2: clown that compares like racism in America and slavery to
- 12:47Speaker 2: not allowing Muslims in Sharia law in America. He did
- 12:50Speaker 2: it at a meeting for Care, which is like the
- 12:53Speaker 2: Muslim brotherhood. He's now going to face off against our guy,
- 12:57Speaker 2: Mike Rogers in November. Mike must win, Folks in Michigan,
- 13:01Speaker 2: Mike must win. In fact, his victory speech today says
- 13:07Speaker 2: it all.
- 13:07Speaker 1: Listen to this.
- 13:09Speaker 5: The campaign that Mike Rogers and Donald Trump and their
- 13:14Speaker 5: gop MAGA allies are launching is already more bitter. All
- 13:19Speaker 5: you gotta do is look at the odds you're already
- 13:21Speaker 5: watching on TV.
- 13:22Speaker 3: Started today.
- 13:24Speaker 5: You know they think that you want to use my
- 13:25Speaker 5: whole name against me.
- 13:26Speaker 1: Mike, listen, man, if you can't.
- 13:28Speaker 6: Say the name is Abdrochman, keep the name out your
- 13:30Speaker 6: damn mouth.
- 13:33Speaker 2: Are you trying to emulate Will Smith with a bit
- 13:36Speaker 2: of Obama voiceover?
- 13:37Speaker 1: Antics there, mister Ali.
- 13:41Speaker 2: And then you have the liberal white sheep Yay, let's
- 13:45Speaker 2: just make America Islamic caliphate. Islam does not go with
- 13:51Speaker 2: Western civilization. Our dear friend Charlie Kirk said it best.
- 13:56Speaker 2: There's no place for socialism or Islam in America period.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Speaking of one of Elsaiad's comrades, or Win the Democrat
- 14:05Speaker 2: Party for the state's thirteen district, Donovan McKinney. He's a
- 14:10Speaker 2: member of the Michigan State House. He's a former union organizer.
- 14:13Speaker 2: He's connected to Rashida Tulaibe and Bernie Sanders. He supports
- 14:18Speaker 2: the great, Big, Gray New Deal. He wants to end
- 14:20Speaker 2: our relationship with Israel. He wants to close down ICE.
- 14:24Speaker 2: That's the future of the Democrat Party. And he beat
- 14:27Speaker 2: that freaky looking incumbent Democrat thing right there. On that note,
- 14:33Speaker 2: some candidates backed by President Trump also won big again.
- 14:36Speaker 2: I warn you about the Dems first, and we can
- 14:39Speaker 2: pat ourselves on the back later. This is the primary.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Now the work begins. We got to win the general.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Michigan Representative John James won the GOP primary for governor.
- 14:48Speaker 2: He'll face the state's Secretary of State, businessman Army vet Ben,
- 14:53Speaker 2: serving in the state's tenth Commissional district.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Since twenty three. He's a good guy.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Most importantly, John's's not a Marxist or a socialist. Same
- 15:01Speaker 2: thing goes for Ty Masterson, the man who won the
- 15:04Speaker 2: Republican primary in Kansas for governor. He's the president of
- 15:07Speaker 2: the Kansas State Senate and he's been in the state
- 15:09Speaker 2: legislator since two thousand and five. He's also got President
- 15:12Speaker 2: Trump's endorsement. Then there's John Braun Washington won the GOP
- 15:16Speaker 2: primary for the state's third congressional district. He'll face a
- 15:19Speaker 2: progressive incumbent in November, totally backed by Potus as well.
- 15:23Speaker 2: His race is one of the most closely watched in
- 15:25Speaker 2: the country, and Trump's support, they say, made the difference. Now,
- 15:30Speaker 2: the question is, how are we going to stop this
- 15:33Speaker 2: takeover of socialists in our House of Representatives, in our Senate,
- 15:38Speaker 2: in our state houses? Joining me now to sound off
- 15:41Speaker 2: about these crazy and there's no other way to put it, democrats, socialists,
- 15:45Speaker 2: and radical Muslims who are winning in Americans elections. He's
- 15:50Speaker 2: a member of the House Homeland Security, how Fitting and
- 15:53Speaker 2: Financial Services Committee. Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogles back on the program, Andy,
- 15:58Speaker 2: I know you got to run. I'm not going to
- 15:59Speaker 2: ask you about an the big wins on the Republican side.
- 16:01Speaker 2: I'm just going to go right after what's most important.
- 16:05Speaker 2: This country is on the precipice of being taken over
- 16:09Speaker 2: by socialists, by Commis, by radical Muslims who literally want
- 16:14Speaker 2: to change the fabric of our nation. You can't have
- 16:17Speaker 2: a constitution, bill rights, a republic. Capitalism and socialism and Islam.
- 16:23Speaker 2: They don't go together.
- 16:24Speaker 3: Andy, No, absolutely not.
- 16:28Speaker 7: And when you look at this slate of candidates, these socialists,
- 16:31Speaker 7: these communists, these Islamists, I mean, you know, there was
- 16:35Speaker 7: a moment in time just a year ago where you know,
- 16:37Speaker 7: you had Andy Ogles as one of the most conservative
- 16:40Speaker 7: members of Congress over here on the right and on
- 16:42Speaker 7: the left you would have AOC. Right now you have
- 16:45Speaker 7: candidates on the Democratic side that are left of AOC.
- 16:49Speaker 7: I didn't think that was even possible. But look, these
- 16:52Speaker 7: folks hate America. They hate this country. They want to
- 16:56Speaker 7: see us a bow to, whether it's socialism or ISLA.
- 17:00Speaker 7: And I've had enough and it's time that American people
- 17:03Speaker 7: wake up. I mean, even here in Tennessee. We've got
- 17:06Speaker 7: an election tomorrow, and you've got this green energy superpack,
- 17:10Speaker 7: a Kamala Harris superPAC point two million dollars against me.
- 17:13Speaker 7: Why because I'm a fighter, because I'm a Trump Conservative,
- 17:16Speaker 7: because I'm Trump endorsed. So they're coming after us in
- 17:20Speaker 7: the same way they're coming after some of the moderate Democrats.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just leave that headline up there about
- 17:27Speaker 2: Andy's race, because I want to talk about the Tennessee primaries.
- 17:29Speaker 1: But just think about what Andy said.
- 17:31Speaker 2: And you'all remember watching the show, We literally thought AOC
- 17:34Speaker 2: and Tellebi and Corey Bush and some of these jasmine
- 17:38Speaker 2: they were the crazy liberals. No, they're just like American born,
- 17:43Speaker 2: little bit progressive liberals. These new candidates are scary people.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Andy.
- 17:48Speaker 2: They want to rewrite our history, rewrite our laws, and
- 17:52Speaker 2: change the fabric.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Of how we operate as a republic. It is scary
- 17:57Speaker 1: as hell to me.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Real quick hit Tennessee big races besides your own tomorrow
- 18:02Speaker 2: night we should be watching.
- 18:03Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you have the governor's race. I would
- 18:06Speaker 7: say probably the two biggest races would be the governor's
- 18:09Speaker 7: race between Senator Blackburn and Congressman Rose, obviously my race,
- 18:12Speaker 7: and the fifth Congressional District. And then you have the
- 18:15Speaker 7: ninth Congressional District, which is an open seat, a very
- 18:18Speaker 7: competitive race. So there's a lot going on here in
- 18:21Speaker 7: Tennessee to watch tomorrow. And like I said, in my
- 18:23Speaker 7: race specifically, they're pouring millions of dollars against me because
- 18:27Speaker 7: I'm a Trump endorsed candidate and they're tired of us winning,
- 18:31Speaker 7: They're tired of my conservative leadership, and so that I've
- 18:34Speaker 7: got a big target on my back.
- 18:36Speaker 1: I bet you do.
- 18:36Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting you even had a Democrat, Senator
- 18:41Speaker 2: Fetterman go on I think CNN and say he thinks
- 18:45Speaker 2: that Syeed up in Michigan will lose to Mike Rodgers.
- 18:48Speaker 1: I think he kind of hopes he does.
- 18:50Speaker 2: You have other people coming out again, former Democrats, Joe
- 18:54Speaker 2: Manchin saying he would never support a socialist or communist candidate.
- 19:00Speaker 2: There's a handful of Democrats that still have some common sense.
- 19:04Speaker 2: But Andy, I don't hear enough of them speaking out
- 19:06Speaker 2: against these socialists because they care about way in power.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Right, That's right. You know they're an odd coalition.
- 19:13Speaker 7: But look, I think you have some Democrats that are
- 19:15Speaker 7: truly concerned because they have a takeover taking place in
- 19:18Speaker 7: their party. I mean, look at Mamdanie in New York.
- 19:22Speaker 7: This is a guy that literally is a Marxist. He
- 19:25Speaker 7: doesn't like our way of life. You look at Lsied
- 19:27Speaker 7: who wants to impose Sharia law and calls it racist
- 19:32Speaker 7: if you're a killing, Well, guess what, buddy, I'm against it.
- 19:34Speaker 7: I'm part of the Sharia, the Anti Sharia Caucus. I
- 19:37Speaker 7: was one of the original founders. You know why, because
- 19:39Speaker 7: it has no place here in this country, and neither
- 19:42Speaker 7: do these Islamists that want to take our country down.
- 19:44Speaker 1: Yeah, final one on that. I'm so glad you said that. Andy.
- 19:47Speaker 2: Today, Ted Cruz from Texas and the Judiciary Subcommittee had
- 19:53Speaker 2: a hearing on the Muslim brotherhood and the potential takeover
- 19:56Speaker 2: of America.
- 19:57Speaker 1: And I think we have some video.
- 19:59Speaker 2: Not one day Democrat on that committee and he showed
- 20:02Speaker 2: up for that hearing.
- 20:03Speaker 1: He brought the facts.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Of how the Brotherhood is connected to care and these
- 20:08Speaker 2: other groups in this country who have tried to infiltrate
- 20:10Speaker 2: our college campuses now our political offices, and how they
- 20:14Speaker 2: want to bring a caliphate to America. There is mister
- 20:18Speaker 2: lsied right there on a billboard. Thanks to Ted Cruz.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Not one Democrat showed up for this, and this is
- 20:23Speaker 2: about national security. You set on that committee in the House.
- 20:27Speaker 2: I just wanted your thoughts on that hearing today, and
- 20:30Speaker 2: not one damn Democrat showed up.
- 20:32Speaker 7: Well, you know, the Democrats quite frankly, don't have the
- 20:35Speaker 7: courage to show up because they're afraid of some of
- 20:37Speaker 7: those in their own party.
- 20:39Speaker 8: And look, it's their own words.
- 20:41Speaker 7: And also he talks about overthrowing the government, he talks
- 20:44Speaker 7: about replacing our constitution with sharia law. So this isn't
- 20:47Speaker 7: my word, this isn't my rhetoric. These are his own
- 20:50Speaker 7: words that he's spouting and then calling me a racist
- 20:53Speaker 7: or you a racist because we say, you know what,
- 20:55Speaker 7: we have a constitution, we have a bill of rights.
- 20:57Speaker 7: In what you're saying, Shari law has no place in
- 21:00Speaker 7: this country. And I'm going to fight, like you know what,
- 21:02Speaker 7: to stop it.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Andy, Hey, best of luck tomorrow. I know you're going
- 21:05Speaker 2: to pull it out. God bless you, brother, Thank you,
- 21:07Speaker 2: thank you.
- 21:08Speaker 1: Yep. Okay.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Coming up next, an in depth conversation with a British
- 21:13Speaker 2: journalist and commentator who's been warning his nation and the
- 21:16Speaker 2: world about the horrific problems that come with Islam infiltrating
- 21:23Speaker 2: Western civilizations.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Andy and I were just touching on it.
- 21:26Speaker 2: But Jonathan, this man right here, Oh, he's got first
- 21:29Speaker 2: hand experience. He's been living it for years in Britain.
- 21:32Speaker 1: Don't go away, We'll be right back.
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- 22:01Speaker 9: Else, but Islam has encroached on our lives. I would
- 22:16Speaker 9: love not to be here, especially at this time. I
- 22:20Speaker 9: would love never to talk about this topic again, never
- 22:23Speaker 9: to talk about Islam. It's not my faith, it's not
- 22:28Speaker 9: my ideology. But over and over again it has confronted me,
- 22:34Speaker 9: coming for my life, for your lives.
- 22:39Speaker 1: Thank you, sir.
- 22:40Speaker 2: Your country Britain might be too far gone, but America
- 22:45Speaker 2: isn't yet. The radical Islamist are gaining ground here on
- 22:50Speaker 2: American soil.
- 22:51Speaker 1: But folks, I still think we can savor and know
- 22:56Speaker 1: nobody's paying me to say this.
- 22:58Speaker 2: It's just the red, white and blue in my blood
- 23:02Speaker 2: and recognizing there's a problem because the mass migration of
- 23:07Speaker 2: Muslims in other foreign lands have led to nothing but despair, rape, murder, pillage,
- 23:16Speaker 2: kind of like their bs prophet Muhammad and how he
- 23:19Speaker 2: lived his life. That's what's headed here, folks, if we
- 23:22Speaker 2: don't pay attention. That's one of the reasons we have
- 23:25Speaker 2: the First Amendment to speak out against this Islamic takeover,
- 23:29Speaker 2: and that's why we have the second just in case
- 23:32Speaker 2: they try to take it from us. Now, for those
- 23:35Speaker 2: of you who don't know who that man was right there,
- 23:38Speaker 2: who you just heard from, Jonathan starts to Dottie He
- 23:41Speaker 2: recently spoke at Oxford.
- 23:43Speaker 1: You know, that's the prestigious higher.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Learning education center in Britain where they get in suits
- 23:50Speaker 2: and tuxedos and dresses and they have a nice formal debate.
- 23:55Speaker 2: Nobody gets violent, nobody gets wild and crazy. And during
- 23:59Speaker 2: that recent speech, Jonathan brought up that we all should
- 24:03Speaker 2: be suspicious of Islam in Western civilization and I agree
- 24:08Speaker 2: one thousand percent. He spoke right alongside someone you see
- 24:12Speaker 2: on this program a lot, Tommy Robinson. They were commenting
- 24:16Speaker 2: on the dark times that our British allies have been
- 24:20Speaker 2: enduring for the past decade or two. Thanks to Muslims,
- 24:24Speaker 2: Islam has taken a strong foothold all across the UK,
- 24:28Speaker 2: and the data proves it. More than four million Muslims
- 24:31Speaker 2: live in the UK and their population continues to grow
- 24:35Speaker 2: at a rapid pace. Nearly half of them are under
- 24:38Speaker 2: the age of twenty five, and studies show that most
- 24:42Speaker 2: common sense Brits are worried about it. And let me
- 24:45Speaker 2: just say on their behalf rightfully, so, one in six
- 24:49Speaker 2: Brits say the Muslim population growth threatens their culture and existence.
- 24:53Speaker 2: This according to a brand new study just done in June.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Folks the West is under a and our next guest
- 25:02Speaker 2: laid out the plan at Oxford clear as.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Day in his speech and debate watch building.
- 25:08Speaker 9: An entire Islamic society mosques, schools, charities, youth groups, businesses, institutions,
- 25:15Speaker 9: which they then spread to the West. And their devised
- 25:19Speaker 9: strategy was one of patient Islamic transformation from within, a
- 25:24Speaker 9: civilizational jihad.
- 25:26Speaker 8: Don't worry.
- 25:27Speaker 9: That is not a far right name made up by
- 25:30Speaker 9: Tommy Robinson or me. That's actually what they called it.
- 25:33Speaker 9: And we know that because the FBI sees their nineteen
- 25:35Speaker 9: ninety one Explanatory Memorandum setting out the plan to settle
- 25:40Speaker 9: in the West, build Islamic centers as bases, infiltrate institutions,
- 25:45Speaker 9: and work until quote Allah's religion is made victorious over
- 25:50Speaker 9: all other religions.
- 25:52Speaker 1: No, thank you.
- 25:53Speaker 9: Nearly a century later, they are widely accepted across Europe
- 25:56Speaker 9: and in the US and much of the West as
- 25:59Speaker 9: a dangerous US threat to democracy. So Islam doesn't only
- 26:05Speaker 9: attack with bombs. Sometimes it uses our own freedoms and
- 26:08Speaker 9: our own land and our own institutions against us.
- 26:14Speaker 2: And again, let me say thank you, Jonathan, report after report,
- 26:18Speaker 2: my fellow Americans show that organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood
- 26:24Speaker 2: are covertly infiltrating American colleges to spread their ideology, and
- 26:29Speaker 2: they're doing more than just our universities.
- 26:32Speaker 1: The takeover is legitimate. It is deadly serious.
- 26:35Speaker 2: It's one of the many reasons why we should be
- 26:38Speaker 2: suspicious of Islam in our nation. But just in case
- 26:42Speaker 2: you still need more reasons, our next guest said it
- 26:45Speaker 2: best during that speech at Oxford.
- 26:48Speaker 9: Dishonest people will tell you that this is not Islam
- 26:52Speaker 9: but extremism. Extreme what extreme Jainism, extreme Quakerism, the two
- 26:58Speaker 9: converts to Islam opposite.
- 27:00Speaker 8: It cannot deny that.
- 27:02Speaker 9: Those killers were Muslim following their Islamic beliefs. They said
- 27:06Speaker 9: it themselves. The list of Islamic contributions to our Western
- 27:10Speaker 9: life demonstrates that human cost, the human cost that makes
- 27:16Speaker 9: people in here afraid to even talk about Islam. That's
- 27:20Speaker 9: why we're suspicious of Islam joining us.
- 27:25Speaker 2: Now you just heard a snippet of that amazing speech
- 27:29Speaker 2: at Oxford. Writer journalist, conservative British commentator Jonathan Sarja Dottie
- 27:35Speaker 2: on the program for the first time. Jonathan, let me
- 27:38Speaker 2: just say amen, thank you. We appreciate you from across
- 27:42Speaker 2: the pond, you and Tommy and your coalition of conservatives
- 27:46Speaker 2: who are standing up simply for your nation, for your culture,
- 27:50Speaker 2: for your right to exist as a Christian or a
- 27:53Speaker 2: Jew in Britain and not be under the thumb of this.
- 27:57Speaker 2: And I don't use the word radical anymore. Under the
- 27:59Speaker 2: rule of Islam. I firmly believe, Jonathan, it's of the devil.
- 28:03Speaker 2: But that's my opinion because I think that angel like
- 28:05Speaker 2: that visited their profit Mohammad was a demon.
- 28:08Speaker 1: That's my opinion.
- 28:09Speaker 2: But you look at what they've and you laid it
- 28:11Speaker 2: out in your speech so great. By the way, you
- 28:13Speaker 2: went like one hundred years of attacks, if I recall
- 28:16Speaker 2: from the nineteen twenties up until recent attacks in your
- 28:19Speaker 2: own country like the Ariana Grande concert, and you proved
- 28:22Speaker 2: that we all should be suspicious of Islam.
- 28:25Speaker 9: Welcome, Jonathan, Well, thanks very much for having me, and
- 28:29Speaker 9: thanks for playing clips from the speech, because you know,
- 28:31Speaker 9: it's not just that I'm trying to fight for our country,
- 28:34Speaker 9: and it's not just that I'm trying to fight for
- 28:36Speaker 9: Christians or Jews. I'm really on a mission, I would say,
- 28:40Speaker 9: and we all are to fight for Western values, to
- 28:43Speaker 9: fight for freedom, to fight for liberty, and I count
- 28:45Speaker 9: the United States in that very much, because any threats
- 28:49Speaker 9: to our liberal values, any threats to our ethics, our morals,
- 28:53Speaker 9: which are founded on juday a Christian values, are something
- 28:57Speaker 9: that we need to take very seriously. And because of
- 28:59Speaker 9: our tender towards toleration and openness to other cultures and faiths,
- 29:04Speaker 9: which is not a bad thing, per se, we are
- 29:07Speaker 9: often guilty of letting in influences which are actually destructive
- 29:11Speaker 9: to that very tolerance, to that very liberalness. So I
- 29:15Speaker 9: think it's very important that the one thing we ought
- 29:17Speaker 9: to be intolerance of is intolerance.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 29:20Speaker 2: And look, I don't know of another religion or ideology
- 29:24Speaker 2: out there. Let's say, if I look over here at
- 29:26Speaker 2: our brothers and sisters that are Hindu, Buddhist, Jews, Christians,
- 29:31Speaker 2: that if you don't convert to my religion a way
- 29:33Speaker 2: of life, I can kill you. But in theirs, they
- 29:37Speaker 2: literally have a book that tells them they can lie, cheat,
- 29:40Speaker 2: still kill to expand the Islamic Caliphate around the globe.
- 29:45Speaker 2: I again don't see Jews doing that. I don't see
- 29:47Speaker 2: Christians doing that. I don't see Hindus doing that. That's
- 29:50Speaker 2: the only religion ideology that does that. And I want
- 29:52Speaker 2: to play one more quick clip because while you were
- 29:55Speaker 2: doing that debate, the other side literally gave you the
- 30:02Speaker 2: golden egg and proved your point. I want to roll
- 30:05Speaker 2: this clip of a gal that was on the other
- 30:07Speaker 2: side of the debate why Islam's okay in Britain, And
- 30:10Speaker 2: she's literally telling you guys that if there wasn't security,
- 30:13Speaker 2: you guys might have got killed that night by what
- 30:15Speaker 2: a mob of Muslims outside of Oxford.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Roll this.
- 30:18Speaker 10: Perhaps tonight's motion is less about the West relationship with
- 30:22Speaker 10: Islam and more about yours, Stephen Yaxley Lennin known to
- 30:27Speaker 10: his hooligans as Tommy Robinson. Stephen, there is a crowd
- 30:31Speaker 10: outside writing against you tonight and without the protection and
- 30:35Speaker 10: generosity of a Muslim Palestinian president and a mostly South
- 30:38Speaker 10: Asian executive committee, you would be quite literally cooked.
- 30:44Speaker 2: So if they didn't provide you security, you guys would
- 30:48Speaker 2: have been cooked by the very people you three were
- 30:51Speaker 2: there to warn Britain about.
- 30:53Speaker 9: Well, don't misunderstand it. They didn't provide the security. We
- 30:57Speaker 9: had to provide our own, and it's unfort that you
- 31:00Speaker 9: have to turn up somewhere like that with security of
- 31:02Speaker 9: your own.
- 31:02Speaker 8: But you know, we take these things seriously.
- 31:04Speaker 9: Just to be fair to that young lady there, I
- 31:06Speaker 9: do want to say that of all of them, actually
- 31:08Speaker 9: she was very sweet. She was a very lovely person
- 31:10Speaker 9: when we spoke with her before it. Remember, these are
- 31:12Speaker 9: effectively children or very young adults. They are performing as well,
- 31:16Speaker 9: and I think sometimes they say stuff that they shouldn't
- 31:18Speaker 9: have said or didn't mean to say. And so I
- 31:19Speaker 9: don't think that she was overtly threatening us, and actually
- 31:22Speaker 9: Tommy has been quite clear about that since as well.
- 31:25Speaker 8: But what she did say was chilling because she.
- 31:27Speaker 9: Was warning us that outside the event there were crowds
- 31:30Speaker 9: protesting rioting that stopped a lot of the actual audience
- 31:33Speaker 9: being able to get in.
- 31:34Speaker 8: Now, they weren't just Muslims actually outside this is what's interesting.
- 31:38Speaker 8: They were also the far left.
- 31:40Speaker 9: And this is part of the problem that I think
- 31:41Speaker 9: we also need to address, which is that the far
- 31:43Speaker 9: left and Islamo fascists have united effectively and found common
- 31:48Speaker 9: ground in their hatred of the West, their hatred of
- 31:50Speaker 9: our values, their hatred of Jews, their hatred of Christianity.
- 31:54Speaker 8: Their hatred of all the sort of bedrock of our society.
- 31:56Speaker 9: And so it's not actually necessarily an Islamic or muss
- 32:00Speaker 9: crowd outside that would have threatened our safety. It was,
- 32:02Speaker 9: in fact also this far left crowd. And what she
- 32:05Speaker 9: was saying was that the debate that evening was being
- 32:08Speaker 9: held at the invitation of her and the president of
- 32:11Speaker 9: the OXID Union at the time, who was also a
- 32:13Speaker 9: Muslim woman. So these Muslim women and a mostly Muslim committee,
- 32:18Speaker 9: as far as she had told us, were inviting us
- 32:20Speaker 9: into debate this. So I do respect them for doing that.
- 32:22Speaker 9: But in what she said there, you're right, that clip
- 32:24Speaker 9: has gone viral around the world millions of times.
- 32:26Speaker 2: I'm very kind of you guys. You and Tommy are
- 32:28Speaker 2: being so kind about this. I'm a little bit harsher.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Let me play something that came from one of our
- 32:33Speaker 2: American lawmakers today on Capitol Hill, our Senate Committee, Judiciary Committee,
- 32:38Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, had a hearing on the Muslim brotherhood, its origins,
- 32:42Speaker 2: and how they're connected and have their fingers in all
- 32:44Speaker 2: sorts of things here in the States, from our colleges
- 32:47Speaker 2: to our unfortunately now higher offices.
- 32:50Speaker 1: We've got mayors that are radical Muslims New York.
- 32:53Speaker 2: We've got a guy, abdulah Sayed who just won the
- 32:56Speaker 2: Democrat Party's nomination for United States Senate.
- 32:59Speaker 1: He had a hearing today.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Ted Cruz OneD the dangers of the Brotherhood and Care
- 33:05Speaker 2: and the rest of these groups and how they are
- 33:07Speaker 2: infiltrating America.
- 33:08Speaker 1: Roll that clip.
- 33:10Speaker 11: The events we witnesses on college campuses after October seventh
- 33:14Speaker 11: did not emerge from nowhere. They were not spontaneous, they
- 33:19Speaker 11: were not organic. They were the product of an organized
- 33:22Speaker 11: network that has spent decades building influence inside the United States.
- 33:31Speaker 11: Just look at the status. My Democrat colleagues have chosen
- 33:34Speaker 11: not to participate. That's their right. But an oversight hearing
- 33:40Speaker 11: that one of the two major parties refuses even to
- 33:43Speaker 11: see is exactly the outcome. These organizations that we're discussing
- 33:51Speaker 11: have spent forty years working to produce.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Jonathan final question, Ted brings up the fact that our
- 34:00Speaker 2: Democrat Party in our country, which is now embracing Democrat socialist, Democrat,
- 34:06Speaker 2: socialist Muslim candidates, okay, is cozying up to the Muslim
- 34:10Speaker 2: Brotherhood and the well Islam in general. I worry in
- 34:15Speaker 2: our nation and so I'd like a final word from you.
- 34:17Speaker 2: That's a warning to the American people because you have
- 34:20Speaker 2: far right who are hating on Jews and now coosing
- 34:25Speaker 2: up to Muslims. You have far left in our country
- 34:28Speaker 2: coosing up to Muslims hating on Jews, their hatred of Jews,
- 34:32Speaker 2: and their progressive movement is now bringing together socialism, communism,
- 34:36Speaker 2: and Islam here in America. And I told you before
- 34:40Speaker 2: the interview, I look like Britain's in stage four cancer
- 34:43Speaker 2: with the Islam takeover. We're in like stage two. We
- 34:46Speaker 2: can stop it if we act.
- 34:47Speaker 1: Jonathan, Well, let me say this.
- 34:50Speaker 9: I am Jewish and I'm very aware how difficult it
- 34:53Speaker 9: is to hear people criticize your faith, your religion, your
- 34:56Speaker 9: beliefs as a Jew, but that doesn't mean that we
- 34:58Speaker 9: shouldn't be allowed when there is something problematic about an
- 35:01Speaker 9: ideology to criticize it just because it is a religion.
- 35:04Speaker 8: And when it comes to Islam, there is a problem
- 35:05Speaker 8: within Islam.
- 35:06Speaker 9: There are many Muslims who don't believe in those sorts
- 35:09Speaker 9: of things that you've just mentioned, but there are unfortunately
- 35:11Speaker 9: plenty who do so. The Muslim Brotherhood, which you just
- 35:14Speaker 9: heard mentioned, there is a fundamental problem.
- 35:16Speaker 8: As you've shown earlier on, there is this.
- 35:17Speaker 9: Hundred year plan for infiltration and the use of our
- 35:21Speaker 9: own systems against US across the West, whether it's infiltration
- 35:24Speaker 9: of government, whether it's infiltration of education or the media.
- 35:28Speaker 9: This is a plan that they've laid out, and as
- 35:30Speaker 9: I said in that speech, you played an extract there
- 35:32Speaker 9: and people can hear the whole thing online on YouTube.
- 35:34Speaker 9: They have this one hundred year plan and we know
- 35:36Speaker 9: about it because the FBI seized in the nineties their
- 35:39Speaker 9: memorandum which even outlined their very plans this sort of
- 35:43Speaker 9: civilization or gh head to take over.
- 35:45Speaker 8: The West from within.
- 35:46Speaker 9: So this is something that we do need to talk
- 35:48Speaker 9: about very much, and it's something that we need to
- 35:50Speaker 9: talk about as much for moderate or reforming Muslims as
- 35:53Speaker 9: we do for Jews and Christians, because they are often
- 35:55Speaker 9: the victims of Islamic terrorism, and they are the victims
- 35:58Speaker 9: of the more extreme end of Islam. THEMLS, well, this
- 36:00Speaker 9: is a very important topic and we here in Britain
- 36:03Speaker 9: have put up with this for far too long. At
- 36:05Speaker 9: least over there. President Trump is starting to make illegal
- 36:09Speaker 9: parts of the Muslim brotherhood around the world and also
- 36:11Speaker 9: within the US.
- 36:11Speaker 8: This is something that's not being done here.
- 36:14Speaker 9: We don't need to wait for the terrorism and the
- 36:16Speaker 9: extremism to turn into violence on our streets, in our schools,
- 36:20Speaker 9: in our synagogues. We need to act instead against this
- 36:23Speaker 9: extremism and against the extreme ideology that underpins those acts
- 36:27Speaker 9: of violence, so that we can stop it before it happens.
- 36:30Speaker 8: And I hope and pray that over there in the USA.
- 36:33Speaker 9: You can look at the example of what's going on
- 36:34Speaker 9: here in the UK and get an earlier start than
- 36:37Speaker 9: we have on this, because I still pray and hope
- 36:39Speaker 9: that we can sort this out in the UK, but
- 36:41Speaker 9: it's looking harder and harder with waves of immigration coming
- 36:44Speaker 9: from countries where there is extremist Islamic belief, which is
- 36:48Speaker 9: dangerous and country to democracy, dangerous and countrary to liberty,
- 36:51Speaker 9: to Christianity, to Judaism, to all non Muslims. We mustn't
- 36:55Speaker 9: allow that to take root in our societies, to take
- 36:58Speaker 9: control and to act violently again, since we really must
- 37:00Speaker 9: stop it.
- 37:01Speaker 1: Yes we must.
- 37:02Speaker 2: Jonathon Sarciati, thank you so much for being brave speaking
- 37:07Speaker 2: out in your nation and giving a warning to the
- 37:09Speaker 2: American citizenry as well, God bless you, Jonathan, give my
- 37:12Speaker 2: best to Tommy.
- 37:13Speaker 8: Thanks very much.
- 37:14Speaker 2: Yep, straight ahead, we're going to dive into the bizarre
- 37:17Speaker 2: trial of a woman named Lindsey Clancy.
- 37:19Speaker 1: Have you heard about this?
- 37:20Speaker 2: That's the Massachusetts mother accused of strangling her three kids
- 37:24Speaker 2: to death. Famed attorney Bob Beyance and forensic psychiatrist doctor
- 37:28Speaker 2: Carol Lieberman are going to join us to discuss the
- 37:31Speaker 2: facts of the case and the issue of postpartum stay
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- 38:11Speaker 12: How many times did she tell you thus that she
- 38:13Speaker 12: had thoughts of harming the kids?
- 38:16Speaker 8: A couple of times.
- 38:17Speaker 1: You know, it was very confusing because a minute later
- 38:20Speaker 1: she was making them line chair, playing with them, or
- 38:24Speaker 1: getting ready for dad or whatever it was.
- 38:28Speaker 12: So it was confusing in that she wasn't physically harming
- 38:32Speaker 12: them at the time, but was had had these thoughts.
- 38:35Speaker 12: Is that what you're saying?
- 38:36Speaker 3: Right? I never saw Lindsay harm the kids?
- 38:38Speaker 2: Patrick Clancy there, folks a few days ago in the
- 38:40Speaker 2: witness stand, testifying about his ex wife, Lindsey, who's on
- 38:44Speaker 2: trial for the triple murder of their children. She's facing
- 38:47Speaker 2: three counts a murder for strangling their children back in
- 38:50Speaker 2: January of twenty twenty three, and Patrick, her husband ex husband,
- 38:54Speaker 2: was the first to take the stand. By the way,
- 38:56Speaker 2: he's testifying for both the prosecution and the defense. On
- 39:00Speaker 2: that night, Patrick says he left the house to pick
- 39:03Speaker 2: up medication for her came home to find the ex
- 39:08Speaker 2: wife injured on the ground outside of their home. He
- 39:12Speaker 2: says she killed her three children, then tried to kill
- 39:16Speaker 2: herself by jumping out of the window of their Massachusetts home.
- 39:20Speaker 2: We're now in the second week of her trial. If
- 39:22Speaker 2: you've been watching today, jurors heard from a physician's assistant,
- 39:26Speaker 2: state police crime lab analyst, and a forensic toxicologist who
- 39:30Speaker 2: spoke about all of the substances that were found in
- 39:34Speaker 2: Lindsay's system at the time of the incident, and let's
- 39:37Speaker 2: just say she was heavily medicated.
- 39:40Speaker 1: The jury also.
- 39:41Speaker 2: Recently heard from one of the first officers to respond
- 39:43Speaker 2: to the nine to one one call, and that gut
- 39:46Speaker 2: wrenching call, just play it.
- 39:50Speaker 12: He screamed, she killed the kids, And after he said that,
- 39:57Speaker 12: way did you go?
- 39:59Speaker 13: Once he could from the doorframe, we were able to
- 40:02Speaker 13: look inside the room where we observed what appeared to
- 40:05Speaker 13: be a child laying motionless on the floor.
- 40:10Speaker 2: Joining us now to discuss this bizarre, tragic case. It's
- 40:13Speaker 2: a former head New Jersey prosecutor and a high profile
- 40:17Speaker 2: criminal defense attorney, so he sat on both sides of.
- 40:19Speaker 1: Murder trials, folks. Bob byankey back on real America. Bob,
- 40:23Speaker 1: I know you've been tracking this one for us. What
- 40:26Speaker 1: do you make of it?
- 40:26Speaker 2: The defense is obviously pleading temporary insanity in Massachusetts is
- 40:30Speaker 2: not responsible whatever. But I got to say, with the medications,
- 40:35Speaker 2: with her warning family members, with her talking about her
- 40:38Speaker 2: not being right in the head, I would say that's
- 40:40Speaker 2: probably a pretty good defense, because how on the God's
- 40:43Speaker 2: green Earth do you strangle your three precious little babies
- 40:46Speaker 2: in your right mind.
- 40:49Speaker 13: Dan, I was considered one of the harshest conservative prosecutors
- 40:52Speaker 13: that you could get out.
- 40:52Speaker 3: There are murder cases.
- 40:53Speaker 13: I never pled bargain one single murder case in my
- 40:56Speaker 13: entire career. However, there was an instance very simil to
- 41:00Speaker 13: this where if you follow the law which says that
- 41:03Speaker 13: if a person is suffering under a legitimate mental disease
- 41:06Speaker 13: or defect that's documented understood in the psychiatric community at
- 41:10Speaker 13: the time, made her unable to appreciate the difference between
- 41:14Speaker 13: right and wrong or conform her conduct to the law,
- 41:19Speaker 13: then it's what we call an NGI not guilty by
- 41:22Speaker 13: reason of insanity and in a very similar circumstance, and
- 41:25Speaker 13: this is where prosecutorial discretion is so powerful. In that case,
- 41:29Speaker 13: I allowed it to be an NGI, so IWT to
- 41:31Speaker 13: get out of JL free card, you had to go
- 41:33Speaker 13: into a mental lockdown institution and up until the time
- 41:37Speaker 13: a psychiatrist say you're no longer a danger to yourself
- 41:40Speaker 13: in the community, and sometimes that's longer than the actual
- 41:44Speaker 13: conviction for the crime itself. But I felt it was
- 41:47Speaker 13: the right thing to do, and I think in this
- 41:49Speaker 13: particular case, I don't think the prosecutor called this the
- 41:52Speaker 13: right way. You got thirteen medications, she's clear, she's got
- 41:55Speaker 13: suicide ideation, she was having hallucinations, she's got a previous
- 41:59Speaker 13: mentatntal health history, and her diary entries that were read
- 42:03Speaker 13: by the defense yesterday. May I say, we're just brutal
- 42:06Speaker 13: of a woman crying out that she wants to be well,
- 42:09Speaker 13: she can't take care of her kids.
- 42:11Speaker 1: She feels guilty, her.
- 42:12Speaker 13: Brain is in a fog, and I'm terrified. I can't sleep,
- 42:15Speaker 13: I'm under stressed. I have such feelings that I'm not
- 42:18Speaker 13: a good mom, and I don't know what baseline anymore.
- 42:20Speaker 13: I'm completely disconnected. I'm not in reality. This is a
- 42:24Speaker 13: woman who is a psychet as rather a nurse inm pediatrics,
- 42:28Speaker 13: the person who really cared for her kids, that's clear
- 42:30Speaker 13: in the entries, who had a moment where she like
- 42:33Speaker 13: you just said, and I'll just end it with this,
- 42:35Speaker 13: the horrific nature of the crime itself, the nature of
- 42:38Speaker 13: the crime itself, screams out mental insanity, cuts her wrist,
- 42:42Speaker 13: cuts her neck, jumps out a window and paralyzes herself.
- 42:45Speaker 13: This is a person who should not be prosecuted, belongs
- 42:47Speaker 13: in a mental health lockdown facility.
- 42:49Speaker 2: Yep, you know it reminds me of and folks old
- 42:51Speaker 2: enough to recall twenty five years ago this past June,
- 42:55Speaker 2: a Texas woman named Andrea Yates who drowned her five children.
- 42:59Speaker 2: Now that was a religion, but they use the temporary
- 43:02Speaker 2: insanity plea there it worked. She's still in a mental
- 43:06Speaker 2: word hospital today, twenty five years later. There's the pick.
- 43:10Speaker 2: Remember that family, folks, after she drowned all five of
- 43:13Speaker 2: her kids. So yeah, sometimes you just can't get them well.
- 43:18Speaker 2: And that is a legit reason. They're not an evil,
- 43:21Speaker 2: bad person, they're not themselves. And with this one, I
- 43:25Speaker 2: mean she was on thirteen or more prescribed drugs. It
- 43:28Speaker 2: might have been taken other substances. On top of that,
- 43:31Speaker 2: it was a recipe for disaster. Bob, I'll give you
- 43:34Speaker 2: the final word on this one. Just horrible all around.
- 43:36Speaker 2: The dad's got to be carrying the guilt because she
- 43:38Speaker 2: came to him multiple times and said I feel like
- 43:41Speaker 2: harming the kids and even admitted on the stand he
- 43:43Speaker 2: ignored it.
- 43:45Speaker 13: You see something like this and all I could say,
- 43:47Speaker 13: Dan is my takeaway as a homicide prosecutor, and as
- 43:50Speaker 13: an EMT always is the same, we should be grateful
- 43:53Speaker 13: for what we have in our lives. That for Fortunately
- 43:56Speaker 13: for us, we're not going through that because one never
- 43:59Speaker 13: knows when life is going to take that wrong turn.
- 44:01Speaker 13: And this is certainly a case of complete tragedy in
- 44:04Speaker 13: that regard.
- 44:04Speaker 1: Yes, it truly is.
- 44:07Speaker 2: Bob Byance as always, thank you brother for coming on
- 44:09Speaker 2: and weighing in on this case.
- 44:11Speaker 3: You got them, yep.
- 44:12Speaker 1: Okay, folks, we're going to stay with this story. But
- 44:14Speaker 1: I want to set aside the facts of the actual
- 44:17Speaker 1: murders for.
- 44:18Speaker 2: Just a second, because I don't think anybody disputes with
- 44:21Speaker 2: that mountain of evidence that Lindsay Clancy didn't kill the
- 44:23Speaker 2: three kids. But there is a major dispute about what
- 44:27Speaker 2: potentially drove her to do it, and was she sane
- 44:31Speaker 2: or insane at the time. For one thing, we know
- 44:34Speaker 2: that she was severely struggling. Her dire entries prove that
- 44:38Speaker 2: she was anxious, she was overwhelmed with motherhood. She was desperate,
- 44:43Speaker 2: she said, to get a mental health break. Again, those
- 44:46Speaker 2: are her words. Things that they had gotten so bad
- 44:51Speaker 2: that they had prescribed her so many drugs, antidepressants, sleep aids,
- 44:57Speaker 2: anti psychotic.
- 44:58Speaker 1: I mean, I think my wife looked it up. She
- 45:00Speaker 1: was on twelve or thirteen different drugs.
- 45:03Speaker 2: Now, some argue her case can actually teach us a
- 45:05Speaker 2: few things about postpartum, about psychosis, and I hope they
- 45:10Speaker 2: teach us something about over prescribing people.
- 45:13Speaker 1: Does a doctor every say, hey, maybe.
- 45:15Speaker 2: You need to go talk to your priest or your
- 45:18Speaker 2: pastor maybe some microdosing.
- 45:20Speaker 1: Maybe not just thirteen different drugs. I don't know.
- 45:24Speaker 2: Medical professionals all over the country are discussing it as
- 45:27Speaker 2: the trial moves forward, and there is a consensus forming
- 45:30Speaker 2: about better educating women who have postpartum I agree. Another
- 45:36Speaker 2: important factor those drugs, those medications, how did they impact
- 45:40Speaker 2: her mind? Following the murders, she tested positive for a
- 45:44Speaker 2: whole bunch of substances. Again, she was prescribed I believe,
- 45:47Speaker 2: thirteen different medications. Okay, was issued more than thirty prescriptions
- 45:55Speaker 2: as they adjusted her dosages over the months. And you're
- 45:59Speaker 2: talking klonopin. I had a buddy on that. That's heavy stuff, prozac,
- 46:06Speaker 2: I mean, and then they would oh, let's do this much.
- 46:08Speaker 1: That's not working.
- 46:09Speaker 2: Let's up the dose. Oh let's pull the dose. Let's
- 46:11Speaker 2: add this. That's where our next guest comes in. We
- 46:14Speaker 2: want to talk postpartum and we want to talk the drugs.
- 46:18Speaker 2: Joining us now with the bigger picture of what women
- 46:21Speaker 2: are going through with postpartum depression and then what the
- 46:25Speaker 2: doctors do immediately prescribe drugs, drugs, drugs. She's a board
- 46:29Speaker 2: certified forensic psychiatrist, been on the program before, doctor Carol
- 46:33Speaker 2: Lieberman back on Real America.
- 46:35Speaker 1: Doctor, thank you for joining us. Went over the facts
- 46:38Speaker 1: with Bob.
- 46:39Speaker 2: Now, I want to talk to you about postpartum and
- 46:42Speaker 2: the drugs that are prescribed first and foremost.
- 46:44Speaker 1: You know a lot about this case, I'm sure.
- 46:47Speaker 2: Do you believe in your professional medical opinion that Miss
- 46:50Speaker 2: Clancy was clinically insane at the time of the murders.
- 46:55Speaker 1: That seems to be the debate right now. Of course
- 46:58Speaker 1: in that courtroom.
- 47:00Speaker 14: Yes, I mean technically in Massachusetts they call it not responsible.
- 47:03Speaker 6: For her actions, and I absolutely believe that. You know,
- 47:08Speaker 6: this is a.
- 47:08Speaker 14: Very very interesting case, but a very as you were saying,
- 47:12Speaker 14: it's a case that hopefully we'll teach doctors and women
- 47:15Speaker 14: and just people in general about the seriousness of postpartum psychosis.
- 47:20Speaker 14: She has had, has had postpartum psychosis as well as depression,
- 47:26Speaker 14: whether it's postpartum depression or major depression, whatever it was,
- 47:30Speaker 14: that combination and you know that can include things like
- 47:33Speaker 14: hallucinations and and visual delusion, well delusions hallucinations. Her diaries
- 47:41Speaker 14: are wonderful for documenting all the things that she was
- 47:45Speaker 14: going through. But it is the key. The key here
- 47:48Speaker 14: is the people who treated her. And you know, I'm
- 47:51Speaker 14: sure that there's a civil suit against some of her
- 47:54Speaker 14: treats and they you know that this is represents though
- 47:59Speaker 14: the latest of eample of collateral damage from the state
- 48:03Speaker 14: of our mental.
- 48:04Speaker 6: Health system, which is horrible.
- 48:06Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 48:07Speaker 14: Psychiatrists these days have become pill pushers there you go
- 48:10Speaker 14: in therapy with the patients, do they just give them
- 48:13Speaker 14: a prescription and they tell them to come back in
- 48:15Speaker 14: a month or three or six, And then the person
- 48:17Speaker 14: comes back and they're not better, and they give them
- 48:20Speaker 14: another prescription and so forth. There are people walking around,
- 48:23Speaker 14: well she's a good example, but even other people walking
- 48:26Speaker 14: around with four or five or six medications.
- 48:30Speaker 6: And what happens is the medications counteract each other.
- 48:34Speaker 14: And they don't you know, the good parts of the
- 48:37Speaker 14: medications get counteracted by the other kinds of medication, not
- 48:41Speaker 14: to mention all the sound effects that these medicals.
- 48:44Speaker 2: There you go, how many times do we set at
- 48:46Speaker 2: home and watch these pills being advertised in every damn
- 48:49Speaker 2: program and ninety percent of them the side effect is
- 48:52Speaker 2: even if it's supposed to help with depression. Oh, by
- 48:53Speaker 2: the way, you might have suicidal thoughts. The woman already
- 48:56Speaker 2: had postpartum and that depression can be bad enough alone.
- 49:00Speaker 2: Then you pumper full of drugs. Then well, those drugs
- 49:02Speaker 2: aren't working, so we'll we'll fluctuate how much we give you,
- 49:06Speaker 2: but we'll add some more on top of that. This
- 49:08Speaker 2: was a recipe for disaster and three young children are
- 49:12Speaker 2: gone because of it.
- 49:13Speaker 1: Doc, let me ask your professional opinion.
- 49:14Speaker 2: If there are women watching this program and they feel
- 49:17Speaker 2: like they are suffering from postpartum depression, what should they
- 49:21Speaker 2: do first before they call that doc that's going to
- 49:24Speaker 2: start pumping them full of drugs?
- 49:26Speaker 1: As you said, these days, that's what most docs do.
- 49:30Speaker 14: Well, you see, the women are caught in a bind
- 49:34Speaker 14: because she apparently it's been reported that she saw a
- 49:37Speaker 14: psychiat not mentioning the ones who she saw in the
- 49:40Speaker 14: hospitals and clinics. She saw a psychiatrist, and she saw
- 49:44Speaker 14: a therapist of some sort, and she saw two nurse practitioners.
- 49:49Speaker 6: Now, nurse practitioners are not.
- 49:52Speaker 14: Have not been given enough education, are not experienced enough
- 49:56Speaker 14: and educated enough in these kinds of issues. But people think, oh, well,
- 50:01Speaker 14: you know, it seems like you're not as sick.
- 50:03Speaker 6: If you go to a nurse practitioner.
- 50:04Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
- 50:05Speaker 6: It's not like.
- 50:07Speaker 14: It doesn't make them feel as though they're suffering from
- 50:10Speaker 14: something as bad. So I mean, this is the problem.
- 50:13Speaker 14: Really it should be a psychiatrist who treats her. But
- 50:16Speaker 14: they need people need to find a psychiatrist who does
- 50:19Speaker 14: therapy along with giving medication, or who works closely with
- 50:23Speaker 14: a psychologist who could do the therapy while they're giving
- 50:26Speaker 14: the medication.
- 50:27Speaker 6: That's the disconnect, that's the problem.
- 50:29Speaker 2: And I would say reach out to family. Don't be embarrassed.
- 50:33Speaker 2: Get your family helping you and supporting you. If you
- 50:35Speaker 2: are of faith, reach out to church members, talk to
- 50:38Speaker 2: a past or two. I'm a big Christian doc, so
- 50:41Speaker 2: I like to rely on that besides the drugs and
- 50:43Speaker 2: the doctors. I think all of that can help. And
- 50:46Speaker 2: also I speak from experience with family members. I know
- 50:50Speaker 2: people that got off of all those psycho drugs and
- 50:53Speaker 2: did microdosing, and it has helped people in the family
- 50:56Speaker 2: I love and know greatly get off dependent person description drugs. Anyway,
- 51:01Speaker 2: I just want to throw that in, Doctor Carol Lieberman,
- 51:03Speaker 2: thank you for coming on again.
- 51:04Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Yep, all right.
- 51:07Speaker 2: Coming up next, we're going to fill you in on
- 51:08Speaker 2: a story that we're working out of Hawaii. You've seen
- 51:11Speaker 2: the viral video. I love watching him get knocked out
- 51:13Speaker 2: ready by good night. He's a candidate for Congress. Guess
- 51:18Speaker 2: what which party? A Democrat.
- 51:20Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that when we come back. God
- 51:22Speaker 1: Night night.
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