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Not so Mystery Beer, Netflix Receiver, and Vikings Numbers 80-99 | TSH Ep. 49 · The Skol Hop

• 0:23
  All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of the School Out.
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  I'm Evan, I'm Austin. We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa.
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  We like drinking beer talking about the Vikings. And we almost had to
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  restart this episode already like we did last week. Viewers. You don't know,
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  but I just had a brain part last week and couldn't. It was
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  like, I'm Austin, and then I didn't know what to say, and
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  I felt like Evan was just about to enter that world of what do we
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  do talk about? I was in full control. Sure, okay, but
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  what we do now, Evan is we drink beer talk about the Viking.
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  We do. But first we're gonna pay the bills really quick. We're gonna
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  That's news to me. Yeah, that's exciting. Yeah. All right,
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  Well we've got another mystery beer. But I don't know if this one's
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  going to be a very mystery. All right. In my defense, you
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  weren't supposed to find out what the beer was. And in your non defense,
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  you're kind of a turd, and you figured out exactly what the beer
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  was. Well, you commented with our account on the brewery that I'm pretty
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  sure it is. Let me just put the let me give the context here
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  for the viewers and the listeners out there. So you made a comment to
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  the brewery that I'm pretty sure it is on Facebook. Yeah, on Facebook,
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  and he said we might feature this beer soon. And I looked at
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  the picture of the beer and the brewery and I'm like, huh. And
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  then and then I went to said brewery without knowing and you've seen the comment.
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  I had seen the comment. That's what I went to that brewery.
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  No, actually I didn't. My wife and I just really like to go
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  there, okay, And they're a pretty sweet brewery. You'll find listeners.
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  You'll find out what we're talking about here in a few minutes. So we
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  went there and hung out for a little bit, and you I had texted
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  you that I was there, and You're like, I just left there ten
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  minutes ago. And so that's when I was like, oh, all right,
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  that that confirms it for me. Yeah, you said I think I
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  know what the brewery is going to be tonight, and then you said,
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  well, based off Facebook, I might know the beer too, So you
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  never know. It's still a mystery. It's shrouded in tinfoil like it always.
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  And I would say, this is a pretty good job. Yeah,
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  I'm getting better. I'm getting a lot better. So nice. I just
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  had that one week where it made fun of me, and I just will
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  never let that happen again. So well, now I'm going to make fun
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  of you for spoiling surprise. That's all right. Hey, how how bad
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  can I feel about drinking a good beer? Yeah? Exactly, all right,
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  So let's poor these, let's let's pour these out. Remember, as
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  always, I brought it, so Evan has to try and guess the alcohol
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  content, the type, and the brewery, so not necessarily in that order.
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  I think I can get two of those things. I don't know about
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  ABV though, Yeah, that's true. You don't know unless you looked at
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  it. Oh, Evan, you got so much foam over there? What
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  are you doing? Way more than me? Don't even start all right,
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  So if you are consuming the Skull Hop via YouTube or you're watching on Spotify,
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  you'll know what this beer looks like right now. But for those of
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  you that haven't really found us there yet and you're just listening to the podcast,
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  Evan, can you kind of tell them, give them an audio visual
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  of what what this beer looks like. So it's definitely hazy in character,
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  but it's it's more orange and weird. I smelled it and got a little
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  taste off the can after I finished pouring it, and it's very citrusy,
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  very orange e citrus, which I like. Yeah, it's refreshing, especially
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  since it's been super hot lately. Oh my gosh, it's been really hot
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  the last handful of days here and Iowa. So actually I know that I
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  know the brewer and the name of the beer, but I don't actually know
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  the type man. I didn't really look into the type all right or the
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  ABV. So so the brewer is. The brewer is five Cities. Yes,
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  we got a five Cities beer, Pride of betting Nor of Iowa.
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  The name, can you give us the name? It's their crush tangerine something.
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  Oh you are one word away from? Is it the tangerine wheat?
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  There it is? You found it of and we haven't even tasted it yet
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  tonight. We've both had this beer before. We've had it. Yes,
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  I think we've had it together. I know I've had it, and I
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  think it was with you. But let's give it a try. It's school,
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  it's cool. Yeah, it tastes like orange crush. Yeah, pop,
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  Like it just tastes like good old orange crush with a hint of beer.
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  That may be what they're going for. It's kind of like it's almost
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  like a summer shandy. It's like a good wheat beer mixed with orange crush
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  pop, just like a summer sandy is just a good wheat beer mixed with
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  lemonade, you know, in a good way way. Yeah, it's nice
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  and sweet. So it's not just like orange juice. It's got I know
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  what you're saying by that orange crush pop like in a good way. It's
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  it's very sweet, yeah, refreshingly sweet. I guess you could say it's
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  not like pucker on appealing. That's orangey. It's a wheat beer. If
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  you don't like oranges, you won't like this. But if you do,
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  if you're even okay with orange tasting stuff, you will like it. Evan,
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  unless you cheated and already looked at the can, can you take a
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  guess at the age I did not look at the can. Actually, I'm
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  gonna guess it's in the range of like, it's pretty low. Wheat beers
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  are typically low. I'm gonna say four point seven, and I don't even
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  know off the top of my head. That's just a guess shot in the
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  dark. Oh, this is a respectable five point four percent. Okay,
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  this is a little lower five point four. Yeah you go. So i'd
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  say that's that's still in the category of crushable, but it's starting to inch
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  up towards not being super crushable anymore. Although yeah, that's that's still crushable.
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  So there you go. There's another part of the name, so orange
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  crush. It's crushable. You can drink a few of these and still be
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  all right, and it's really good. I like it. I think it's
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  delicious. I like it all right. Well, we lost a little bit
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  of that excitement and that fanfare just because Evan Cheetah and you already knew what
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  it was. That was a good story. But we will probably comment back
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  on that post and maybe even comment this part of the video saying, hey,
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  we tried it and we like it. So Five Cities we tried it.
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  We like it. Listeners, you should definitely try it if you can.
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  I don't know if I've seen this one in our favorite local, Devil's
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  Glenn Ivey, but I know you can get it at the brewery, so
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  you have to try not too far off of I eighty. Yeah, So
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  if you're ever driving that way and stop by and pick yourself up some beer
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  there you go to Old Five Cities. Well, have you been watching Netflix
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  lately? I have. I'm through I think four episodes, maybe even five.
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  Of course, we're talking about Netflix's new Receiver series, kind of the
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  sequel to it's pretty much the direct sequel to last year's Quarterback series. This
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  year, we spent a lot of time talking about that. Yeah, we
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  did last year kind of as we kind of got up and running as a
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  podcast. Yeah. Yeah, it was like the biggest news story once we
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  first started the podcast. Of course, Quarterback last year followed Pat Mahomes,
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  Marcus Mariota, and then Kirk Cousins, you know QB one at the time,
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  Kirk Cousins for the Vikings, and it really it really changed I think
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  a lot of people's opinion in the best way possible. On Kirk Cousins.
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  He gained a lot of fans and then you know, he got injured and
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  then he just left the team and he may have lost a few fans after
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  that. But I'd say Quarterback was really good for me. I'd give it
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  like a eight point zero out of ten as far as like a fun football
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  oriented show to watch. I don't know how I feel about Receiver. What
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  do you think so far? I'm two episodes in, so I'm a little
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  behind you. I will tell you. I was really disappointed that the first
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  episode didn't feature Justin Jefferson at all. Like I said out loud as my
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  wife and I were watching it, like, I'm mad right now? Where
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  was he? He's a featured athlete in the show. He wasn't featured at
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  all in the episode it was. It was mostly George Kittle in that first
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  episode, if I remember, and like I told you, I like George
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  Kittle. He's a hot guy. You know. I think we both were
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  entertained by George Kittle. He seems like a good dude, a little kind
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  of crazy a little bit every once in a while. Fun fact, he
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  went to Cedar Falls High School for like a year. Wow, Okay,
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  Cedar Falls famously the home of our alma mater, Northern Iowa. Yeah,
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  I didn't know that. Interesting little facts. Not. I don't think he
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  graduated from there. He went there for a time. But yeah, all
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  in all, I've been disappointed two episodes in. Obviously, I know what's
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  coming because Justin Jefferson got hurt and I know that that was kind of the
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  main storyline for him through the Receivers series. Just kind of having read some
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  things and watching the previews and whatnot, you can kind of you just you
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  know the ending because we watched the whole season last year of football and saw
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  how it all panned out in real time, and now we're getting kind of
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  the documentary eyzed has that even a word documented? Documented? Sure? Yeah,
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  sure, the filmed we're getting the filmed dramatic version of it all,
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  and we're getting, you know, the parallel storylines of Kittle and DeVante Adams
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  and I'm on Ross Ain't Brown alongside of our favorite player. So all in
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  all, disappointed that he wasn't as featured as much so far. I don't
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  know if that changes in episodes three, four, five, He gets in
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  at a little bit more, but episode two is definitely so far from what
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  I've seen the most he's ink. But I think one issue is there's eight
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  episodes and they're following what George Kittle for Deebo Samuel Oh, I forgot about
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  Deeba. They're following five guys, Davante Adams, yeah, George or I'm
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  in Ross, Saint Brown, and Justin Jefferson. Now it is a little
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  different because Kittle and Samuel are both on the same team, so you can
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  kind of double up there a little bit, but they don't really do a
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  lot of that doubling up. You think, like, oh, it would
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  be like the two of them in every scene together, so it's technically two,
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  but really just one. They're kind of featured separately, you know,
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  they do a good job of that. But yeah, so to me,
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  in the first two episodes, the screen time seems to favor Kittle first.
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  Then it's probably a tie between Davante Adams and Aman Ross ain't Brown, And
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  maybe if there was a tiebreaker, Davante Adams had slightly more because I think
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  he like he went out in a game pretty early on in the season and
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  like went to the locker room, got a shot or something, and then
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  came back and finished the game. And that was pretty heavily like you were
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  brought through the timeline of that whole thing in that episode. I think that
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  was the second episode maybe, but I don't remember. I haven't made it
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  to three yet. It has to have been pretty sure, I really wanted
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  to. The first episode was mainly the Niners guys and then Amen Ra and
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  then the history. The history behind Amen Ross Brown was kind of interesting,
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  like his dad's a bodybuilder, former bodybuilder, I guess, and just like
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  grew up in the super competitive like you will be an athlete and will be
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  successful kind of environment. Like that was kind of eye opening. But on
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  the same point, and maybe Netflix just did a really good job of making
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  him not look horrible but his dad while it was like yeah, you are
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  going to be an athlete or whatever, it felt very uplifting and just like
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  whipping the you know, not making him only think about sports. Like I
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  think, I think the Saint Brown's Saint Brown brothers have probably what seems to
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  be good parents, so like, for sure, supportive and uplifting, but
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  still like pushing in a good way. Like really they're they're a very disciplined
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  family. Yeah, yeah, in a good way. A lot of parameters
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  and guidelines that they live inside of, and they tried to, you know,
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  live a good life that way in all aspects. So I mean the
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  Quarterback series, I think we talked a lot last year about how it kind
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  of made us feel like we got to know those three quarterbacks a little bit
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  better. I remember, and maybe this isn't super fair, but I remember
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  coming away from Quarterback thinking, Man, Mahomes, he's really good quarterback and
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  he's dedicated, but he's still kind of that And I don't want this to
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  come off wrong, but I don't know how these words can come off right.
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  But he's still kind of that frat boy kind of he needs his posse
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  around him, and he's he's good so he can back all that up.
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  But he's still kind of like I'm king of the world, you know,
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  and it just kind of rubs me the wrong way. And his wife is
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  definitely living in that little bubble. And on that other side of that,
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  it's not like they're terrible people, and they're not. I don't think they're
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  putting a lot of bad in the world. It just seems like they're too
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  much like like, you're pretty full of yourself. But again, on the
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  other side of that, how can you not be full of yourself after three
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  Super Bowls and a couple of MVP, Like, he's just he's definitely on
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  top of the mountain, yep. And then Marcus Marriotta and this is the
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  nature of the season. He had kind of seemed pretty like all about me
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  kind of but in a different way than Patrick Mahomes, like in a like
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  I'm looking out for what's best for me, for my teammates, not for
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  the franchise, but like for me. Yeah, And it seemed, you
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  know, the NFL was his job. And and again this might not be
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  fair because he was going through a season of where he was about to have
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  his first child and with he and his wife, we are going to have
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  their first child, and he went through a pretty significant injury that he had
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  to decide for himself if he was going to have a surgery. So it
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  did kind of come across like he was not making decisions that would benefit him
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  and everybody else, but really just him and his family, which on the
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  other side hard to knock. I probably make most decisions to benefit just me
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  and my family, but he did kind of come across a little self centered
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  in that way. And then you have Kirk Cousins, who was kind of
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  the shining star of the series last season, and you know, he's kind
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  of the ultimate dad, and he gets mocked for that sometimes driving the goofy
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  conversion vans and showing up in khakis and a plaid flannel whatever. And you
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  know, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a fanny pack or something.
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  But like, he's just he came across very wholesome and nobody's perfect, nobody's
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  like squeaky squeaky clean, but man, Kirk Cousins is about as close as
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  you can get. Yeah, in the NFL for sure, And yeah,
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  a lot of people love that, and you know, I think there was
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  even a joking commercial about Packers fans all watching Netflix are at quarterback on and
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  I just love Kirk Cousins so much. But and you know, maybe some
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  people have different opinions now after the whole free agency stuff went down, and
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  he may come across as a money grabber going to Atlanta, but none of
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  us know all the details, and it's hard to defend or criticize him just
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  for that. But in that series, that's kind of how they made them
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  be portrayed, and I think the Receiver series is kind of doing that a
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  little bit similar, just to be very high and not dive in too deep.
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  I'm getting the sense from this series, Kittle he's kind of what we
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  all thought he was, just it seems more authentic. He seems like a
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  fun guy, and the word party guy kind of comes to me. But
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  oh, for sure not. I mean, also, he seems like a
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  good guy, so it's not just like he's not grounk. You know,
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  he's not all out. It's just a rage or that one game. I
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  think it was in one of the first two episodes because they're the only two
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  I've watched where he had what three touchdowns on his birthday. On his birthday
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  and they get in the party bus and he's just slimming, yeah, shotgun
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  and beer after beer on the way back. Like, but I feel like
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  he'd do that if he was, like, you know, for sure,
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  a part time janitor working two hours a week somewhere, like he'd still be
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  And it seems like a not an off putting personality. Like maybe I wouldn't
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  join him on all that stuff, but I wouldn't, you know, not
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  go give him a high five if I had the opportunity, you know,
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  sure. And then Deebo Samuel kind of is coming across as like a good
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  family dude, good competitive athlete. I don't know. He seems to be
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  kind of a pretty chill, normal good dude that doesn't seem super full of
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  himself. But still, I don't know. I'm not getting a whole ton
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  of his personality about him through the show. Davante Adams Tommy is coming across
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  a little diva ish, yeah, like he I just watched an episode today
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  where the famous quote from last year was I don't judge things on wins and
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  losses. I judge him on greatness, like and he definitely that seems like
• 18:27
  the opposite way that quote should go. It should be I don't care about
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  my stats. It should be all about the wins and losses. But you
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  know, Adams literally said the opposite. So he's kind of coming across as
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  like that diva type. Again, I don't know this guy, so it's
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  hard to say he's a diva, but it's kind of how he's coming across.
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  Yep, justin Jefferson. To me, he seems like like a homebody
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  almost like if he's not at the facility, he's locked inside his little condo
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  playing video games that his personal chef is cooking for him and he's eating candy.
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  Well, but that's the thing too. Initially as kind of like man
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  like this kid seem he seems like a kid, you know, it seems
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  like a still a college kid. He wasn't like nasty or anything. He
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  wasn't rude, but it was very much like, hey, look I'm on
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  TV, like check out this commercial. And he seemed again not mean or
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  rude or you know, horrible or anything, but just still like, oh
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  he's still what twenty three? Like I guess, yeah, he is a
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  twenty three, twenty four year old kid, but I have seen if you
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  go on to future episodes, I think that hamstring injury, I think that
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  kind of turned things around a little a little bit because he had to and
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  you know, I'm sure he was a good leader before that and learning how
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  to do that. But anything we've heard about him lately, and yeah,
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  he's still only what a twenty four year old kid, he's twenty five,
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  but he's been through some stuff injury wise, like he's you know, and
• 19:56
  he's seen and felt what it's like to not able to be that on the
• 20:00
  field leader. And I just watched an episode today where he was pumping Jordan
• 20:04
  Addison up during the forty nine Ers Monday Night game last year and saying like
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  we need you, like you know, trust Kirk. He's gonna hit you,
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  like when don't you gotta trust Kirk? And like being that leader on
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  the side and seeing him go through the recovery, he seems like he's growing
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  up a lot and really turning into that captain unless of the twenty two to
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  twenty three twenty four year old kid. Like I think in the grand scheme
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  of things, this injury that he suffered last year and being away from the
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  game, it's gonna be a net positive for him. It definitely helped him
• 20:40
  grow and maybe the lack of focus on him in the Netflix series will actually
• 20:48
  benefit him down down the line too, rather than getting all kind of starstruck
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  and you know, trying to please the camera. He's like, all right,
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  yep, that was great, had a good first what four seasons now
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  in a Viking's uniform, and I just signed that big contract. Let's go
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  out and earn that paycheck and let's see if we can bring this franchise closer,
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  if not to the promised land. Yeah. I really do get the
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  sense. And again, this could all be good editing. This could just
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  me having purple colored sunglasses on. But I really do get the sense.
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  He is and he's getting older. Anybody is gonna mature when they get older.
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  That last season turned him from you know, a good superstar player to
• 21:30
  a superstar leader, and he's gonna take ownership of that Viking logo and be
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  the face of the franchise, the face of the NFL. Like he's he
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  seems like he's good, got a good head on his shoulders, and really
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  everything we've seen since. You know, that first episode was taved when he
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  was showing off his candy and you know, getting excited about commercials and stuff,
• 21:53
  and maybe he still loves candy, Like that's fine, you know,
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  go love candy and be excited about a commercial. I'd be super pumped if
• 21:59
  I saw myself on national commercials, you know. But it seems like he
• 22:03
  knows where the focus should be and and he's going to be better for it.
• 22:07
  So to kind of transition us away from that, we mentioned him just
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  a little bit ago, Jordan Addison's been in the news lately, and you
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  said it not too long ago, maybe within the last two episodes. You
• 22:21
  said, there's not a lot of news happening right now, and typically the
• 22:25
  only news that happens in this timeframe of the NFL calendar year is if you
• 22:30
  get busted for doing something stupid, and that's kind of where Jordan Adison found
• 22:37
  himself just a few days ago. Yeah, I mean, well, he
• 22:40
  got arrested overnight on like a it was either a Friday night into a Saturday
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  morning. But and it seems like more information has come out since, you
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  know, obviously we first heard about it first. It was you know,
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  Addison was arrested on suspicion of DWI. I guess he is like a sleep
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  stopped. His vehicle was stopped, but he was asleep behind the wheel.
• 23:06
  I think I even saw he was like in a lane of traffic on the
• 23:08
  interstate, which is sounds dangerous. I don't know where it was. And
• 23:15
  then I guess today we're recording Monday, the fifteenth of July. Today,
• 23:19
  it sounds like there's speculation it could it just said DWI. I think Ben
• 23:23
  Gesling said there wasn't any information about like a blood alcohol content, which apparently
• 23:30
  could mean that it was marijuana not alcohol. But still like it sounds like
• 23:37
  he was falling asleep behind the wheel of the car, so you probably in
• 23:40
  the middle of what the substance is. Yeah, you probably shouldn't behind the
• 23:42
  wheel. It just seems super dumb, especially with what happened a few weeks
• 23:47
  ago with his teammate Kyrie Jackson going through that horrible incident involving I think they've
• 23:53
  even said now involving alcohol losing his life. So you'd think you'd be a
• 23:57
  little bit more care. But like we were just saying with Justin Jefferson,
• 24:03
  seeming like a twenty three, twenty four year old kid. Addison is like
• 24:06
  twenty two and not to be an excuse, but for all the people that
• 24:10
  the first thought is like, wow, could you do this? Like why
• 24:11
  would you think that way? I don't know. I'm not twenty two anymore,
• 24:15
  but I know I was not the smartest twenty two year old kid.
• 24:19
  Doesn't excuse anything. I mean, it's uber is too easy of a thing
• 24:23
  to call. And if you can't do uber, I'm sure there's other options.
• 24:27
  Don't ever ever, we're a podcast that features beer every week, don't
• 24:33
  ever drive drunk or under the influence at all, Like it's too easy to
• 24:37
  not do that stuff. So that's pretty disappointing. Thank goodness, nobody.
• 24:41
  It seems like nobody was hurt in that incident. But yeah, it is
• 24:47
  interesting. I mean, we probably don't want to get super analytical with stuff,
• 24:52
  but it was interesting. He was released less than two hours after he
• 24:56
  was detained, which seems to indicate maybe it was super serious. And there's
• 25:03
  an absence of a BAC, which means they didn't breathalyze him probably mm hmmm.
• 25:10
  So maybe they didn't suspect alcohol, which could be some other substance we
• 25:14
  don't know, or I mean, it could just have been a medical emergency.
• 25:18
  Well, I mean that's we don't have every single piece of detail,
• 25:22
  but I mean I think they did officially say like suspicion of the d w
• 25:26
  I or whatever. But then on the other side of all of that,
• 25:30
  he did, I think just today delete a lot of his social media,
• 25:33
  like removed any vikings sort of stuff from anything that he's posted. You can't
• 25:37
  find anything. Somebody messaged me today and it's like, Dude, Addison's like
• 25:44
  posting some dumb stuff on Twitter. It's like, so I went to go
• 25:48
  find it, and he couldn't find his account at all. Yeah, so
• 25:52
  yeah, maybe somebody who's smarter told him to delete some stuff. But I'm
• 25:59
  trying to pull it up now to see if anything's back up, because he
• 26:02
  could have just like I don't know, disabled his account for a little while.
• 26:07
  I'm not seeing anything yet. I think a few articles I've read have
• 26:11
  kind of predicted maybe that a suspension could be coming his way, depending but
• 26:21
  you don't know. You break the rules, you gotta especially with something like
• 26:25
  people could die, Like this is not a laughing matter, Like I like
• 26:30
  I think you tweeted it on our account. Maybe it wasn't you, Maybe
• 26:34
  it was someone else. I can't remember. Maybe you commented on somebody's but
• 26:38
  you mentioned Chris Carter. Was that you? That wasn't me, That wasn't
• 26:42
  you. Somebody out there mentioned Chris Carter and they just said, you know,
• 26:47
  Chris Carter had a rough start to his NFL career. And we're gonna
• 26:52
  be talking about Chris Carter here in a little bit, uh, because we're
• 26:56
  in that series of numbers. Ye got a couple of pictures of him behind
• 27:00
  us here. But anyways, Yeah, when he was drafted by the Eagles,
• 27:06
  I'm pretty sure, and spent the first two or three years of his
• 27:08
  career in Philly, and he was in tough shape, and he didn't really
• 27:14
  turn his life around until he came to Minnesota and Denny Green kind of got
• 27:17
  ahold of him and really helped him. I think I think Coach Green helped
• 27:22
  Chris Carter turn his life around in a pretty positive direction, and he's now
• 27:26
  arguably the best receiver in one of the best receivers in franchise history. You've
• 27:33
  kind of turned not to talk about Carter too much before we get there.
• 27:36
  But you've turned me around and saying I'll say Carter was a better Viking than
• 27:41
  Randy Moss. Carter was a way better receiver than Randy Moss because he retired
• 27:47
  as a Viking, and I think he's a top of the list for receiving
• 27:52
  yards at the very least. Is he not? We can check that might,
• 27:55
  but yeah, and not that it's a competition. I mean, Randy
• 27:59
  Moss was obviously a really, really good wide receiver. He just ended up
• 28:03
  bouncing around to a bunch of different teams after he left the Vikings, and
• 28:08
  he came back to the Vikings once and it wasn't great. But I don't
• 28:15
  know Chris Carter man. He's a guy that I've always looked up to,
• 28:21
  and that's why I have a few pictures of him and a few trading cards
• 28:25
  of his in my little display case back here. And whatever tweet I read
• 28:30
  or article I read or whatever just kind of pointed Jordan Addison to Chris Carter,
• 28:36
  like, Hey, a guy that played for your franchise walked a similar
• 28:40
  path. They probably talk to each other. You might want to get in
• 28:42
  touch with him and Chris Carter if you're out there listening, help us out
• 28:48
  come alongside this kid, help him walk the straight and arrow, because we
• 28:53
  like watching him play, just like we liked watching you play back in the
• 28:57
  day. Although Carter getting heat, like I guess it's like nine years ago
• 29:03
  now. Yeah, he was in the news a little bit for some of
• 29:06
  his comments, and I pulled it up. He's telling NFL rookies like,
• 29:08
  hey, kind of a fall guy. Like always if you're hanging out and
• 29:12
  doing some stuff, like make sure one of the guys you're hanging out with
• 29:15
  is ready to take the fall for any trouble you're getting into. And I'm
• 29:18
  paraphrasing paraphrasing that of course, but like that that one probably not horrible advice,
• 29:26
  especially if you're talking to people that are going to get in trouble at
• 29:29
  some point. But also like that's also still horrible advice, Like that's just
• 29:33
  just don't get in trouble, like don't don't do stupid stuff, just so
• 29:40
  be a professional. So maybe he's saying that as a guy who's experienced some
• 29:44
  stuff and knows, yeah, I'm talking to a bunch of kids that are
• 29:45
  about to get in a bunch of trouble at some point. So if you're
• 29:48
  going to do that, have a fall guy, but also maybe just teach
• 29:52
  him not to not to be more like Kirk Cousins, you know, go
• 29:55
  go home and read books your kids. Yeah, and I'll just just to
• 30:00
  maybe kind of wrap this up on Jordan Addison before we get into the numbers
• 30:03
  here, Like you gotta wonder if the Kyrie Jackson stuff had an effect on
• 30:08
  him a little bit, if he was maybe reeling from that a little bit
• 30:12
  and not justifying like, well, if you know someone close to you passes
• 30:18
  away or whatever, go just off the deep end. We're not justifying that,
• 30:22
  but like that would be understandable, Like, yeah, man, that's
• 30:27
  a that's a tough thing. Your teammate is gone, and you know you
• 30:33
  gotta cope. But this isn't the way to do that. Yeah, for
• 30:37
  sure. So I think we should transition to the numbers though we've been kind
• 30:41
  of long winded already. Yeah, yeah, do it. So, of
• 30:45
  course, if you've been listening to the last few weeks, you know that
• 30:47
  we've been going through series kind of looking at each jersey number zero all the
• 30:52
  way up through ninety nine now and looking at Vikings in Vikings history, players
• 30:57
  in Vikings history that have worn East Jersey number and trying to say kind of
• 31:00
  who we think are the best players to wear that number. We've gone through.
• 31:04
  I think we're using Pro Football Reference. There's also another article that we've
• 31:10
  referenced a little bit too, I think from Vikings Wire a couple of years
• 31:12
  ago, just to kind of say like, oh, yeah, these guys
• 31:18
  were the best to wear this number. So this week it's our last episode
• 31:22
  on that series. We've reached the finish line this five week series. I
• 31:26
  have heard I know a couple of non diehard Vikings fans that occasionally listen to
• 31:30
  our show. This isn't their favorite topic. But if you told me that
• 31:34
  I was going to listen to a podcast on like the Bears and that they
• 31:38
  were going to go off the best Bears to ever wear East Jersey number,
• 31:41
  I probably wouldn't be too interested either. But we're here, hey, Vikings
• 31:45
  fans. We've got a few Vikings fans that have piped in a little bit.
• 31:48
  We have and we'll mention those guys in a little bit. We appreciate
• 31:52
  the comments that people have been leaving on our YouTube videos. They've actually been
• 31:56
  really insightful and really helpful because our history with the Vikings is much shorter than
• 32:06
  a lot of other people's. Yeah, there's some people out there that have
• 32:07
  seen most of the whole Vikings history. Yeah, we've seen maybe a quarter
• 32:13
  of it at this pretty much the ninety eight season till now. Yeah,
• 32:15
  because that's that was kind of our coming of age was ninety eight as Vikings
• 32:21
  fans. But anyways, let's start with number eighty because to start with,
• 32:25
  we've already talked about him, but I pulled up the stats here while we
• 32:30
  were kind of spitballing on some other stuff. Chris Carter is, in fact
• 32:36
  the franchise leader in receiving yards. It's not the only category that matters,
• 32:42
  but he is head and shoulders above Randy Moss in terms of receiving yards as
• 32:45
  far as Vikings, Yes, yeah, yeah, I mean he may be
• 32:52
  a better Viking wide receiver than Randy Mosh, which almost sounds like terrible words
• 32:57
  to come out of my mouth. Twelve thousand yards to Randy's nine three hundred
• 33:01
  and sixteen yards over twelve thousand, three hundred and eighty three for Chris Carter.
• 33:07
  And that's wild will in twelve years, So that's more than a thousand
• 33:10
  yards a year average for the Vikings. Yeah, his Vikings AVY. Remember
• 33:16
  the Pro Football Reference, they have that aggregate score of how good a player
• 33:22
  the number which isn't a perfect number, but it's at least something to look
• 33:25
  at. Chris Carter's AVY for his Vikings career is one hundred and twenty,
• 33:30
  which if you're a player with an AVY over one hundred, you're just playing
• 33:36
  good. Like there's no way around it. You probably did some things in
• 33:38
  the game that nobody else has done or only a few people have done.
• 33:43
  If you're above a hundred, you're you're probably a Hall of Famer at that
• 33:45
  point too. So Chris Carter is a Hall of Famer, maybe the best
• 33:50
  Vikings wide receiver of all time, and definitely the best Vikings number eighty.
• 33:53
  So yes, some other notable eighties, they're not nearly as good as Chris
• 34:02
  Carter, And in fact, eighty has been retired. Yeah, it's one
• 34:06
  of the six numbers retired by the Vikings currently. John Henderson from nineteen sixty
• 34:13
  eight to nineteen seventy two wore that number. He was a receiver and in
• 34:16
  nineteen sixty nine had a decent year thirty four catches for five hundred and fifty
• 34:22
  three yards and five touchdowns, so not bad. Dennis Hayes, I think
• 34:29
  that's your user name, Dennis Hayes sixty five our unofficial stat guy. If
• 34:34
  you know anything about John Henderson, let us know. There's always always,
• 34:39
  not always. Also Terry LeCount from seventy nine to eighty seven, and he
• 34:45
  seemed to me, just by stats, more of a depth guy. Wasn't
• 34:49
  really a starter, but was up there in terms of av albeit a lower
• 34:54
  av than much much lower than Chris Carter. And there's a in eighty is
• 35:00
  retired Chris Carter was. He was kind of the face of the franchise through
• 35:04
  the nineties, so yeah, and a pretty decent guy to look up all
• 35:10
  things considered, pretty decent, okay, And he's made a I think he's
• 35:15
  with Fox. He's kind of made a name for himself. He's definitely with
• 35:17
  Fox. So yeah, it's been fun to see him continue after football,
• 35:25
  for sure, all right. Eighty one eighty one Carl Eler Carl, one
• 35:30
  of the Purple People Eaters, played for the Vikings from sixty four to seventy
• 35:34
  eight, fifteen years. That's crazy. That is a lengthy career. So
• 35:37
  you thought Chris Carter's approximate value number was pretty high at one twenty. Carl
• 35:45
  Ellers is one seventy seven. So guy is wild. This begs the question,
• 35:51
  why aren't all of the Purple People eater's numbers retired? Yeah, that's
• 35:55
  a good question, because Carl Ellers is not retired. Eighty one is still
• 35:59
  eighty one. Two of them are. We'll get to eighty eight later.
• 36:05
  But Jim Marshall and Carl Eller not retired at this point. Yeah, travesty,
• 36:09
  what are we doing? Yeah, isn't Marshall retired? Marshall's is retired.
• 36:14
  Marshall's retired, Sorry, Marshall's. Marshall is not in the Hall of
• 36:16
  fame. He's not in the Hall of fame. That's yeah. Yeah.
• 36:21
  But there's that other guy in the Purple People leaders. I forget his name
• 36:24
  all the time, but there's a fourth guy. I mean, there's Marshall,
• 36:29
  Eller Page, and then there's that fourth one kind of rotated a little
• 36:34
  bit. There were a few, and Dennis, you're gonna have to help
• 36:37
  us out. I don't know I was there who was the best. I
• 36:40
  wasn't messing with you. I was hoping you would know, Dennis, you
• 36:45
  can help us with that one too. Who was the best fourth member of
• 36:51
  the Purple People leaders? But Carl Carl Eller for sure way up there in
• 36:57
  terms of his value to the Vikings franchise. Very good and just super consistent
• 37:07
  for a very long time. A couple others to wear eighty one. Anthony
• 37:12
  Carter from eighty five to ninety three. He was a receiver, I believe
• 37:16
  also, Eller is the only defensive end or really defensive lineman at all that
• 37:22
  you're gonna see wearing eighty one. They can't wear that number anymore. I
• 37:24
  know when that rule came into effect, but definitely after nineteen seventy eight.
• 37:30
  Yep, yep so And yeah, Alan Page similarly at eighty eight, but
• 37:38
  eighty eight is also retired. It is retired. But yeah, you won't
• 37:43
  see aligneman wearing eighty eight anymore, at least not in the NFL. Maybe
• 37:46
  in college every once in a while maybe, But continuing on eighty one really
• 37:53
  quick. Yeah. Anthony Carter, three time pro bowler, spent most of
• 38:00
  his career with the Vikings, left in ninety four to go to Detroit,
• 38:06
  but he led the league in yards per catch in eighty seven there so not
• 38:12
  a bad receiver. And then there was one other, actually two others that
• 38:16
  are kind of our time, the Santa Shanko. I remember him for a
• 38:22
  different reason, but well, he he was Farv's favorite target, or one
• 38:29
  of Farv's favorite targets. He was a major. Him and Sydney Rice were
• 38:32
  two big receiving pieces of that nine season yep. And then Nate Burleson,
• 38:37
  who's now broadcasts. He's had a good career, maybe even better, say
• 38:43
  a better broadcasting career, media career. Yeah, but yeah, another notable
• 38:46
  eighty one, So there you go. Eighty two. The best one is
• 38:52
  a recent one. Kyle Rudolph. Rudolph the hard nose, tight end,
• 38:57
  and I guess it kind of surprised me his last Vikings twenty twenty. It's
• 39:00
  been what three fold seasons since he's been a Viking, which kind of sounds
• 39:05
  crazy. There are like twelve year olds who don't remember Kyle Rudolph playing for
• 39:09
  the Vikings, which is kind of wild to think about. But yeah,
• 39:12
  he was on the Vikings for ten seasons. Was one of the first favorite
• 39:16
  targets of fellow twenty eleven Vikings rookie Christian Ponder Kyl Rudolf did a lot of
• 39:27
  good things. He was a fan favorite. Yeah, I liked him a
• 39:31
  lot. His career kind of fizzled out unexplainedly too, Like he seemed like
• 39:37
  he was doing good and then all of a sudden, the Vikings got rid
• 39:39
  of him and he'd never really did anything else. He went to New York
• 39:44
  the next year and then Tampa Bay the year after Brady won a Super Bowl
• 39:47
  with them. So he's another guy that's just like he kind of just exudes
• 39:52
  Vikings football. Like when he was a part of the franchise, he was
• 39:57
  just the consummate vice on and off the field. You just you respected everything
• 40:05
  he did and he really didn't do anything wrong. Heck of a player.
• 40:10
  A couple other notable eighty two's Jim Lash has the second highest AV and I
• 40:16
  will be honest, I know nothing about him. He was a receiver.
• 40:22
  Looks like he bounced around, spent a few years in Minnesota, but was
• 40:27
  a Viking from what was that seventy three to seventy six, So those three
• 40:32
  or four years must have been decent. If he is an AV higher than
• 40:37
  quadri Ishmael. He was a receiver from ninety three to ninety six, and
• 40:43
  then also Andrew Glover ninety seven to ninety nine, so Glover would have been
• 40:46
  on that ninety eight team. Glover had that season in ninety eight thirty five
• 40:55
  catches for five hundred and twenty two yards and five touchdowns, So he wasn't
• 41:00
  starter, He wasn't gonna compete with Chris Carter or Rady Moss for those primary
• 41:06
  catches. But when those guys were doubled, that may have been Randall Cunningham's
• 41:12
  next option. Yeah, to still have five hundred yards in a season like
• 41:15
  that with those teammates, because Jake Reed was on there too. Yeah,
• 41:16
  yeah, yeah, that's that's pretty impressive. So and I made a note
• 41:22
  here too, quadry Ishmael looks like he was better with the Ravens than he
• 41:25
  with the Vikings. So here you go. Eighty two nice and that number.
• 41:30
  Admittedly, Kyle Rudolph's AV is forty two. You could come in and
• 41:37
  own that number. That's a good that's achievable av to do better then,
• 41:42
  so you could up in comedy Vikings. If you want to be better than
• 41:45
  a ten year Viking vet, you might be able to steal eighty two.
• 41:50
  I don't know who's currently got it right now, but yeah, yeah,
• 41:54
  it'd be tough, but you could steal it from Kyle Rudolph eighty three eighty
• 41:59
  three. Steve Jordan is arguably the best. Kim Jordan's dad faviously played from
• 42:06
  eighty two to ninety four. He was a six time pro bowler as a
• 42:09
  tight end for the Vikings. I think he recently got inducted into the Ring
• 42:13
  of Honor for the Vikings. That could be correct. I'm not sure on
• 42:16
  that, but really good tight end for the Vikings in some rough years for
• 42:22
  the Vikings, kind of pre Denny Green, early Denny Green days when they
• 42:28
  were still trying to figure some stuff out in the early nineties. But Stu
• 42:34
  Voight is another one. Stu Voight was a pretty consistent tight end for ten
• 42:39
  years for the Vikings from nineteen seventy to nineteen eighty and then another one that
• 42:45
  I saw on the list. He wore a few different numbers and he did
• 42:49
  not play a lot of seasons for the Vikings, but he actually coached the
• 42:53
  Vikings. You know who I'm thinking of? Are you talking about Mike Tys.
• 42:58
  I'm talking about Mike ty He wore eighty three in the ninety five season.
• 43:02
  Interesting, there you go. Yeah, so I wrote in my notes
• 43:07
  ha like loll laugh out loud, former head coach Mike Tyson. And not
• 43:14
  terribly long after he played he started coaching for the Vikings. It's like,
• 43:17
  what the two season he started or something. Yeah, something like that.
• 43:21
  He was a pretty young head coach when he took over. So alright,
• 43:25
  eighty four, Man, I don't I don't know who wore eighty four for
• 43:30
  the Vikings. Man, I just can't think of it. Randy Moss.
• 43:35
  I was gonna say, corder Ole Patterson, Cordale Pattison. He definitely wore
• 43:38
  it. It's still kind of amazing to me that this number is just not
• 43:43
  even still kind of being handed out, like actively being worn every year since
• 43:49
  Randy Moss left the team, even the second time, right, I think,
• 43:55
  Yeah, two thousand and nine looks like the only year nobody held number
• 44:00
  during the regular season, and then twenty ten. Most of the year nobody
• 44:04
  held it except for the couple of games that Randy Moss came back. But
• 44:07
  after that, I mean, other than that, somebody's worn it every year,
• 44:12
  which is kind of crazy. I don't understand it. Twenty eight is
• 44:15
  shadow retired right now. I don't know why eighty four is still being handed
• 44:19
  out. I mean, to be fair, Adrian Peterson had a lot of
• 44:23
  off the field issues, but so did Randy and you could argue who's is
• 44:29
  worse, right, right? And I guess that's my point is like,
• 44:32
  if twenty eight is quasi retired at this point, why isnt eighty four?
• 44:37
  And at some point you can't just retire every number because one guy wore it
• 44:43
  really, really well for a handful of years. But there are certain players
• 44:47
  and certain numbers that just I don't know, they kind of have to be
• 44:52
  considered for that honor. Yeah, and even if that means that there are
• 44:57
  upwards of ten or fifteen numbers that are just unavailable for the franchise, not
• 45:02
  league wide, but for the franchise, like, so be it. I
• 45:07
  don't know. I'm okay with it. I'm on board with eighty four being
• 45:10
  retired, yeah, or it should be like an honor like like these players
• 45:15
  Randy Moss should have to like give the check mark on like anybody wearing eighty
• 45:20
  four for the Vikings. I don't know, And yeah, I know,
• 45:23
  it's a business. And I know you only have I doubt that. Josh
• 45:28
  Oliver called him and was like, hey, yeah, and maybe they did
• 45:31
  wear it this year, but yeah, I just think you need to retire
• 45:37
  eighty four. It's kind of it's still weird to me to see people wearing
• 45:39
  it. Yeah, they just need to do it. If it was up
• 45:44
  to me, they'd do it before. Randy wore it. Gene Washington wore
• 45:47
  it from sixty seven to seventy two he was a pro bowler a few times,
• 45:53
  and then Hassan Jones from eighty six to nineteen ninety two. Those are
• 46:00
  the kind of the two next most notable Vikings to wear eighty four. Of
• 46:04
  course, Cordero Patterson wore it. IRV Smith wore it a few years ago.
• 46:07
  Josh Oliver kind of has it right now. He definitely has it right
• 46:12
  now. I mean, numbers haven't been announced, but yeah, he'll probably
• 46:15
  wear it again. Yeah, I don't know why he would have switched.
• 46:20
  Yeah, because he'd worn it. He's been a Viking. Was last year
• 46:22
  his first year, Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, well,
• 46:25
  at least with the Vikings, So yeah, all right. Eighty five another
• 46:30
  somewhat gettable number, although not super easy the best ever apparently as a Sammy
• 46:37
  White, who was what's a really good player for the Vikings for ten years
• 46:42
  yep, probably one of their first really really really good wide receivers. He
• 46:47
  was offensive Rookie of the Year his rookie year in seventy six, and a
• 46:52
  pro bowler and a pro bowler again the next year in seventy seven. So
• 46:58
  started every game that he played in, and he had ten touchdowns his first
• 47:01
  season and then nine touchdowns in the next two seasons he finished his career.
• 47:07
  He played all of his seasons with the Vikings. Fifty touchdowns, six four
• 47:12
  hundred yards exactly three hundred and ninety three catches. Very reliable receiver. Honestly
• 47:19
  a similar Vikings career to Adam Thielen. Yeah, as far as numbers go,
• 47:24
  Adam Thielen with the Vikings so far, who knows what the few future
• 47:30
  holds. But Adam had nine years with the Vikings. Granted, I know
• 47:34
  Adam wore than nineteen, but Samy White is a previous era player who can
• 47:38
  kind of match up to Adam Thelen's current era numbers. Theeln had sixty six
• 47:44
  hundred and eighty two yards receiving fifty five touchdowns, though, and again we
• 47:49
  could always speculate fun wise, it may not be his last stat line with
• 47:52
  the Vikings ever, but currently a panther. Yeah so, Sammy White,
• 47:57
  if you don't know who that is, kind of think of a seventies to
• 48:00
  eighties version of Adam Thielen. There you go. A couple other eighty five's.
• 48:07
  Paul Flatley, I think, is how he pronounced his name from sixty
• 48:13
  three to sixty seven. He was up there too in terms of av This
• 48:17
  was back in the day before they really had wide receivers. This was the
• 48:22
  old school kind of roughly flinker and left end type. I mean, he
• 48:30
  kind of was probably a crossover between a tight end, a running back and
• 48:32
  a wide receiver, but quite a few yards. He had thirty two hundred
• 48:42
  yards for the Vikings and seventeen touchdowns in what one, two, three,
• 48:49
  four, five years? He was a pro bowler in sixty six, he
• 48:52
  was Rookie of the Year his rookie year in sixty three. Pretty good player
• 49:00
  too, so Dennis our stack guy. If you know anything about Paul Flatley,
• 49:07
  let us know. Jermaine Wiggins was another. Oh yeah, he was
• 49:10
  one of the first eighty five's I remember watching as a kid. Yep.
• 49:15
  He ended his career with the Vikings. Yeah, tight end from four to
• 49:22
  six, and he was all right, wasn't amazing? Yeah? I think
• 49:25
  he was a better Patriot than a Viking, though depends on what the avy.
• 49:30
  I don't know. I think he was a better Viking than anywhere else.
• 49:32
  It's just he. I think he went to the Super Bowl with Yeah,
• 49:37
  with the Patriots or the Panthers, I don't remember. Either way.
• 49:39
  He was a Viking, yep, anybody else there? Moving on, moving
• 49:45
  on eighty six? All right? Pro Football Reference has Jake Reed, and
• 49:51
  I have Jake Reed as one of those like he's currently the best to wear
• 49:57
  eighty six. I think a lot of player or a lot of fans kind
• 50:00
  of look over him just because he played around the same during the same time
• 50:05
  Rainy Moss. The end of Reid's career was the beginning of Moss's career.
• 50:08
  His entire Vikings career overlapped with Chris Carter. Jake Reed was always at least,
• 50:15
  you know, at best the wide receiver two. But he never did
• 50:17
  anything wrong. He was just solid. His whole Vikings career ended it He's
• 50:23
  He's kind of interesting because Jake Reed ended he played until ninety nine with the
• 50:27
  Vikings, two thousand with the Saints, two thousand and one with the Vikings,
• 50:31
  and then two with the Saints again, So I kind of bounced around
• 50:35
  a little bit at the end of his career. But a solid Viking and
• 50:37
  one that everybody should know about because he did a lot of good things.
• 50:42
  He ended his Vikings career with four hundred and thirteen catches for six four hundred
• 50:47
  and thirty three yards. Respectable for a guy that was always at best the
• 50:52
  second option, and I think notably too. He just he never had any
• 50:57
  of the accolades, no Pro Bowls, no All Pros, no Rookie of
• 51:01
  the Year, Offensive Player of the Year, nothing like that, and just
• 51:05
  he showed up. He started a lot of games. He started seven hundred,
• 51:12
  No, that's wrong that that's the targets. He started eighty three of
• 51:16
  his one hundred and thirty four games for the Vikings. So just a really
• 51:22
  reliable, really reliable receiver, really reliable guy for the Vikings. So although
• 51:28
  that number, just like eighty five, eighty six, is one that a
• 51:34
  Hall of Fame level player or even somebody who's a fringe Hall of Fame level
• 51:37
  player could overtake that. Jake Read's AV is fifty seven, So somebody could
• 51:44
  come own eighty six and just do really good. I mean, hal bed
• 51:50
  Soul had all the sets. He's a tight end from sixty four to sixty
• 51:55
  six. He's the name right there. He's the next one. Yeah,
• 52:00
  we'll call him shallow Howe because he's got an AVY of six. All right,
• 52:06
  eighty seven is interesting to me. Yeah, because the current best Viking
• 52:12
  to everwhear eighty seven is a guy named Leo Lewis played for eleven season with
• 52:16
  seasons with the Vikings. I don't know if you've noticed on our list here
• 52:21
  I've kind of listed out if players came back to the Vikings. I kind
• 52:23
  of did a slash. Leo Lewis played eighty one to ninety one with the
• 52:28
  Vikings, but the beginning of the nineteen ninety one season he played the first
• 52:32
  three games with the Browns. He's a wide receiver and he did some punt
• 52:37
  returning with the Browns. Probably the Vikings too. He's got an av of
• 52:40
  twenty eight. And what am I not looking at here? Okay? Yep?
• 52:49
  Leo Lewis AVY of twenty eight, so not very high. He seems
• 52:52
  like he was a good role player, maybe special teams, definitely a punt
• 52:55
  and kick returner. Was with the Vikings for a long time, and of
• 53:00
  course the Browns for three games. He seems like a good dude. If
• 53:02
  you want to learn something about a guy who has more than just a football
• 53:07
  career, look up Leo Lewis Vikings. He was with the organization for like
• 53:10
  twenty four total years because he moved into the front office and did a lot
• 53:15
  I think with scouting or something. I'm getting that wrong, but look him
• 53:19
  up. Seems like a good dude. But eighty seven is an interesting number
• 53:22
  for the Vikings because I had never heard of Lee Lewis today. But he's
• 53:27
  the best one ever. You've also got Bernard Barrion who had He was a
• 53:30
  speedy electric wide receiver former Bear. Currently he got TJ. Hockinson, So
• 53:37
  the best ever has an AV of twenty eight. TJ. Hockinson currently has
• 53:40
  a Vikings AV of eleven. If TJ can stay healthy, he's got a
• 53:45
  lot of years left in his career. And I say stay healthy because currently
• 53:51
  he's probably going to open up on the pup list and maybe even miss the
• 53:52
  first six or so games of this twenty twenty four season. TJ. Hockinson
• 53:57
  could go down and get a number in the eight an AV in the eighties,
• 54:00
  you know for sure totally own this number for the Vikings. I wholeheartedly
• 54:07
  agree, yes, And like, if you look at his his career AV
• 54:15
  is a twenty nine right now. With Detroit he was in eighteen and with
• 54:21
  the Vikings he's been an eleven. There's there's no reason that he's above fifty
• 54:30
  that he won't get above fifty. Yeah, unless like this injury is secretly
• 54:35
  like the worst thing ever and he's never going to play football again, like
• 54:38
  he should retire. And he's still locked up for the Vikings through like twenty
• 54:43
  twenty eight or something like that. He's around for a while. Yeah,
• 54:45
  so there's no reason he shouldn't end his career as the best Viking to ever
• 54:50
  wear number eighty seven. Another Viking to wear that, Mike Tice, Yeah,
• 54:54
  we wore two numbers, kind of like Pete Persich. I wore two
• 54:58
  numbers with the Vikings. Interesting. Oh yeah, University of Minnesota favorite Marquise
• 55:05
  Gray. I think he was a quarterback in college, but switched to tight
• 55:08
  end in the NFL and bounced around quite a bit. That's an interesting transition
• 55:13
  from quarterback to tight end. Yeah. Yeah, he's a big dude though,
• 55:16
  something a transition I think Tebo should have made. Yeah, well,
• 55:20
  I think they tried. Did he ever try to? They tried to do
• 55:24
  some stuff with him not under center, and just it never worked. That's
• 55:29
  a whole other series of episodes right there. Is he's a better pastor than
• 55:32
  he was an NFL player at this point. I think he's doing okay for
• 55:36
  him. I think he's doing just fine, all right. Eighty eight eighty
• 55:39
  eight I don't even want to joke about this right now. The second best
• 55:45
  player to Everywhere eighty eight for the Vikings has an avy of three. Sorry,
• 55:47
  Charlie Ferguson. The third Buster runs Best Players, Buster Rhymes. I
• 55:54
  knew there was a Viking named Buster Rhymes at one point, but I kind
• 55:58
  of forgot about that. He was the I have thisen down Buster Rhymes because
• 56:00
  Charlie Ferguson. I don't know if you know anything about Charlie Ferguson, Dennis,
• 56:05
  if you're out there and yeah, let us know. But Buster rhymes
• 56:07
  from eighty five to eighty six. In nineteen eighty five, he was the
• 56:12
  league's best kick returner. Is the most kick return yards in the league led
• 56:15
  the league, no touch, not just average, but all of it yards.
• 56:21
  Interesting, okay, yeah, number of returns and yards. Wow,
• 56:25
  fifty three kick returns for one three hundred and forty five yards led the league
• 56:30
  in those categories. All right, buster your rams, bust to move,
• 56:34
  okay, all right? But of course the best Viking to wear to ever
• 56:37
  wear eighty eight. And I believe the last one too. I don't think
• 56:43
  they did. He wasn't the last one. Mark May was the last one,
• 56:46
  but the best ever. It's retired for him. Alan Page, Yes,
• 56:52
  Justice Alan Page, I believe I think he was or is or probably
• 56:55
  was. He's got to be retired from it now on the Minnesota Supreme Court.
• 57:00
  Yeah, I think you're right. Definitely a Hall of Famer, an
• 57:05
  NFL MVP yep, and nine times nine time Pro bowler, spent all of
• 57:14
  his career in the NFC North. At least that's what it's called now.
• 57:16
  I don't know what it was called back Thenrol probably yeah, But were they
• 57:21
  always divisions? I don't know. Dennis let us know. But yeah,
• 57:24
  he was a Viking and then finished off with the Bears at the end of
• 57:28
  his career, which so did Jared Allen. I guess we can forgive him
• 57:31
  for that. But shoot, even his Bears career, he had an avy
• 57:37
  of thirty two with the Bear. With the Bears, that's better than a
• 57:40
  lot of the best ever to wear a number on the Vikings list. So,
• 57:45
  yeah, eighty eight, there's a reason that's retired, and that's because
• 57:49
  he was really really good. And yeah, yeah, and another one where
• 57:58
  this best ever number number eighty eight. That's a wide receiver, a tight
• 58:01
  end, or I guess maybe now a fullback. I think they can wear
• 58:05
  them now. No defensive tackle. I guess back in the sixties and seventies,
• 58:08
  you could be a defensive tackle and wear eighty eight. And I love
• 58:10
  that. That's awesome. It's a good number. Eighty nine. We can
• 58:16
  probably move through this one pretty quick because I don't really know anybody notable that
• 58:22
  has worn eighty nine. Yeah, it's a long list. There's probably what
• 58:28
  twenty guys that have worn that for the Vikings or more. Yeah, this
• 58:31
  seems like one of those numbers that like so currently theayir Tomlin Tom excuse me,
• 58:37
  Thomas holds that number for the Vikings. I think he was an undrafted
• 58:42
  rookie. He might not make the team. He might. I don't know
• 58:45
  anything about him. Don't want to be disrespectful. This is the number for
• 58:47
  the wide receiver or the tight end that probably isn't going to make the team.
• 58:54
  I wish and maybe you can on Pro Football Reference look up like every
• 59:00
  player to ever wear a specific number, not just by team, because I
• 59:04
  wonder if there's ever been a number eighty nine that's been like a Hall of
• 59:08
  Famer. There's got to have been, right, I don't know. You
• 59:10
  could google that for sure, It's that's a googleable thing. But yeah,
• 59:15
  so while you're looking that up, the best Viking is Jerry Reichow. Oh,
• 59:22
  I'm so dumb think I'm saying that right with an avy of twenty three.
• 59:27
  He played from sixty one to sixty four, So one of the original
• 59:30
  Vikings. Who's the best player to wear eighty nine ever in the league.
• 59:35
  Yeah, apparently on Pro Football Reference you can look up all players to wear
• 59:38
  specific numbers. I had to google it. I didn't know how to navigate
• 59:40
  their website. To do it right. Steve Smith Junior just one of the
• 59:45
  best sweat receivers in NFL history, Avy of one thirty nine for the Panthers.
• 59:50
  I think he only ever played for the Panthers too, Ah right,
• 59:52
  He did play a couple of years with Baltimore towards me. Has had a
• 59:55
  fun little series. I think it was on YouTube. He did it with
• 1:00:00
  the Vikings too, with Steve Learns or something like that. Well, it
• 1:00:02
  was with the league. The NFL like had him tour a bunch of different
• 1:00:08
  places, and he went to a bunch of different like facilities and like,
• 1:00:14
  yeah, he came to the Vikings and he like worked with their nutrition staff
• 1:00:17
  at TCO. There was another one where he was like a ball boy and
• 1:00:22
  he was like learning all the tips and tricks of like being an equipment manager
• 1:00:28
  for a team. I forget what team it was, but I think there
• 1:00:31
  are a few like slights that Tom Brady about deflating footballs and stuff in that
• 1:00:37
  one, which I thought was kind of funny. But yeah, anyways,
• 1:00:38
  I guess it was NFL's most interesting jobs there was. Yeah, so he
• 1:00:44
  went around and learned a lot of stuff. I think I only ever watched
• 1:00:45
  the one with the Vikings. That was a good one though. Yeah.
• 1:00:49
  And Steve smith Man, he's just funny, he's a character. Yeah,
• 1:00:54
  so I'm super dumb. There's actually a lot of players in NFL hit well.
• 1:00:58
  Who else there's a small handful of players in NFL history that did really
• 1:01:00
  good wearing eighty nine. Who are the other notable Smith's number one? Number
• 1:01:05
  two is a guy from the sixties and seventies named Dave Robinson, a linebacker
• 1:01:10
  mostly for the Packers. There's only four players with an AV one hundred or
• 1:01:19
  above. The other two no other Smith, Robinson and then Fred Dreyer from
• 1:01:23
  sixty nine to eighty one played looks like with three teams, mostly the Giants
• 1:01:30
  in rams and then Nat Moore from seventy four to eighty six played with the
• 1:01:39
  Dolphins, So that would have been the entire both of their Super Bowl winning
• 1:01:45
  years and definitely that undefeated. Wasn't there undefeated a year between seventy four and
• 1:01:51
  eighty six? Man, I should know this the Dolphins. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:57
  it's one of those years or super Dennis, you man, there's a
• 1:02:04
  few that have been have made a name for themselves wearing that number. Eighty
• 1:02:09
  nine but not a whole ton. If you only have four players with one
• 1:02:13
  hundred or above avs, that number, you could definitely make a case to
• 1:02:19
  be the best ever. Santana Moss. Oh, yeah, he was good.
• 1:02:22
  Yeah, Mike Dicka, I guess you know. I guess Doug Baldwin
• 1:02:28
  for the Saints, Jericho COACHERI James Jones for the Packers. I believe,
• 1:02:35
  Mercedes Liwist. So there's a few guys. But all right, we gotta
• 1:02:38
  get into the nineties here. We've been talking for a while already. We
• 1:02:43
  got to get through this series. We are going to finish it because we've
• 1:02:46
  got something special coming up for episode fifty. Yeah, we do, and
• 1:02:50
  we're not going to bleed into that with this content. Yeah, but eighty
• 1:02:53
  nine, somebody can come and own that, just like somebody could come in
• 1:02:57
  and own number ninety. Yeah. The best Viking ever who is a Derek
• 1:03:00
  Alexander from ninety five to ninety eight with an A twenty five, So he
• 1:03:06
  has an av of twenty five. He had seventeen and a half sacks for
• 1:03:07
  the Vikings in what three or four short seasons the Vikings, so pretty good.
• 1:03:15
  Obviously defensive lineman played on that ninety eight team. I think he was
• 1:03:22
  a contributor on that ninety eight team, if I wasn't mistaken, maybe,
• 1:03:28
  But yeah, you got some other names like Fred Evans from seven to thirteen.
• 1:03:34
  Decently long NFL career, above average length, that's what she said.
• 1:03:39
  Then he got Jonathan Bullard, who I think currently owns ninety three for the
• 1:03:43
  Vikings or ninety for the Vikings. But yeah, I mean, if you're
• 1:03:45
  a guy that makes three or four Pro Bowls, gets a ten SAX season,
• 1:03:51
  you're definitely owning number ninety for the Vikings. I say that like that's
• 1:03:54
  an easy thing. It's It's definitely not an easy It's no small feat.
• 1:04:00
  I think ninety one might even be more attainable for somebody really wanting to make
• 1:04:06
  a name for themselves. Got Ray Edwards from six to twenty ten with an
• 1:04:13
  av of thirty one, which is respectable. Yeah, he played on the
• 1:04:16
  other opposite side of Jared Allen for a few years, but after him,
• 1:04:21
  it's nobody. I mean, I should Stephen Weathers are human beings. Stephen
• 1:04:27
  Weatherly who he had two stints with the Vikings, yep, and I think
• 1:04:31
  he got traded away from the Vikings. I think just once. I was
• 1:04:34
  gonna say twice, but I think he just left the Vikings via trade once.
• 1:04:39
  But there's a long list of players that have worn ninety one and just
• 1:04:43
  really haven't done a whole lot wearing it, which is interesting because I think
• 1:04:46
  ninety one is one of those like guys like to wear that kind of number,
• 1:04:50
  like it look to me, kind of looks cool. I think Pat
• 1:04:54
  Jones currently wears it, and even he's you could argue on the bubble to
• 1:04:58
  make the team. Even so, yeah, Uni Can in Gockway War ninety
• 1:05:02
  one for the Vikings, famously played for them for six games and still led
• 1:05:05
  the team in sacks that year, So he's bounced around quite a bit after
• 1:05:11
  that. Ninety two kind of another number. It's even easier to get than
• 1:05:15
  ninety one. Roy Barker was the best to wear it from ninety two to
• 1:05:20
  two thousand, with an av of twenty two. Yeah, he bounced around.
• 1:05:26
  Looks like he was on four different teams in his career. Yeah,
• 1:05:30
  nothing to be ashamed of. But twelve and a half sacks for the Vikings
• 1:05:34
  and what four seasons Roy Barker, if he was from ninety two to two
• 1:05:40
  thousand, that's when nine seasons. Looks like he came back to men the
• 1:05:45
  second game. So he only played played five seasons five seasons for the Vikings.
• 1:05:48
  Okay, but he had twelve and a half sacks. Yeah, not
• 1:05:51
  bad, all right, So come get ninety two. Seems like it's definitely
• 1:05:56
  attainable. I don't know who currently has it, but all right, three
• 1:06:00
  there are. This one is not attainable. You know, you're not going
• 1:06:04
  to own this numbers unless I don't even know what's Aaron Donald. What's his
• 1:06:09
  av You should look that up. But while you do, these two guys
• 1:06:14
  that are basically tied at the top for the number ninety the best ninety three
• 1:06:18
  in Vikings history could potentially be on the Vikings Mount Rushmore like if we were
• 1:06:26
  too oh yeah, and they are, like there is no question and like
• 1:06:30
  definitely defensive Mount Rushmore and even more definitely a defensive line Mount Rushmore. Like.
• 1:06:38
  So you got Kevin Williams that played for ten seasons from oh three to
• 1:06:42
  thirteen with an AVY of one twenty, and then just right before him,
• 1:06:46
  from ninety to two thousand of John Randall with an AVY of one nineteen.
• 1:06:51
  And it's crazy to me that I would have guessed Randall would have been above
• 1:06:55
  Williams. I would have guessed that too, and I was just about to
• 1:06:57
  say that, Yeah, but I mean, the Williams wall was a force
• 1:07:00
  to be reckoned with when Kevin and Pat Williams played together, so that could
• 1:07:05
  be a contributing factor. Maybe Kevin Williams is getting a little bit of residual
• 1:07:11
  from Pat Williams a little baby, but Williams, I mean, I don't
• 1:07:14
  think you can, and not that you were trying to take anything away from
• 1:07:15
  him, but yeah, you're not taking anything away from Kevin Williams. He
• 1:07:20
  he was one of those quiet guys, but a guy that everybody followed like
• 1:07:25
  a quiet leader. John Randall a monster. I believe he was undrafted and
• 1:07:31
  might be. It's definitely one of the two or three best undrafted Vikings in
• 1:07:38
  their history. Both of them played for Minnesota and Seattle at one point.
• 1:07:44
  I think Kevin Williams then played for the Saints after Seattle. So yeah,
• 1:07:49
  just that number you're not getting, and they should due retire that one in
• 1:07:54
  the same way they should due retire twenty two like you just said earlier.
• 1:07:58
  So yeah, an iconic number for the Vikings, and it's kind of crazy
• 1:08:00
  that anybody can wear that anymore. There you go, And it is not
• 1:08:04
  one of those kind of quasi retired like a twenty eight Adrian Peterson kind of
• 1:08:09
  thing. Like, it's very much open and available if they want it.
• 1:08:13
  Yeah, I looked it up. You would literally have to be Aaron Donald
• 1:08:16
  to take this number away from those two guys. Aaron Donald, you know,
• 1:08:20
  famously probably the best defensive player in the NFL the last handful of years.
• 1:08:27
  His av is one fifty three for his career, so well above the
• 1:08:31
  one twenty and one nineteen for Williams and Randall. But I mean, you'd
• 1:08:35
  literally have to be Aaron Donald to take that over. So, yeah,
• 1:08:39
  you're not taking it from Kevin Williams and John Randall. So the next is
• 1:08:43
  ninety four. And this is maybe a little more attainable if you want to
• 1:08:45
  come get it, but still slightly. Pat Williams is at the top of
• 1:08:48
  the list with an av of fifty five. He played from five to twenty
• 1:08:51
  ten and was the other aforementioned member of the Williams Wall. You had Evan
• 1:09:00
  and Pat Williams kind of in the middle of the defensive line for a handful
• 1:09:03
  of years there in the kind of the mid two thousands, late two thousands,
• 1:09:09
  and like I said, they were a force to be reckoned with.
• 1:09:11
  Yeah, it was tough to move the ball up the middle with them in
• 1:09:15
  the middle there. So, and I think we mentioned this idea in like
• 1:09:19
  what the what what episode was it sixty to seventy nine or maybe the one
• 1:09:24
  before that, where there were a few players on that list that had solid
• 1:09:30
  careers, like for two or more teams, Like you could have only looked
• 1:09:35
  at one of the teams in that player's career and they still would have had
• 1:09:39
  a solid career. Pat Williams had solid careers with the Vikings and a solid
• 1:09:44
  separate career with the Buffalo Bills. He had an av of thirty six with
• 1:09:48
  the Bills and a better av of fifty five with the Vikings. But like
• 1:09:53
  you just said, with Kevin Williams, maybe Pat Williams got a little bit
• 1:09:56
  of a bump playing next to such a great player too, so he didn't
• 1:10:00
  crack the Pro Bowl or even the All Pro vote until he was a Viking.
• 1:10:04
  But he he had a safety with the Bills. He had a touchdown
• 1:10:12
  a fumble recovery for a touchdown with the Bills. So I mean, scoring
• 1:10:17
  isn't the only thing that you look at with the defensive tackle, but no,
• 1:10:20
  it's it's one of the last things, one of the last fun But
• 1:10:24
  yeah, I mean, I don't know. He had, as you're saying,
• 1:10:28
  and I'm just reaffirming, he had a great career with both teams,
• 1:10:31
  and it would be tough, but you might be able to take it from
• 1:10:34
  him, but you'd have to be a consistent, you know, career pro
• 1:10:39
  bowler with some good accolades to take to take ninety four away from Pat Williams.
• 1:10:45
  So he's not ninety four, but he's currently ninety seven. Harrison Phillips.
• 1:10:49
  You think you think Harrison Phillips eclipses Pat Williams as like a Bill Viking,
• 1:10:57
  Bill best Bill Viking defensive tackle. The jury's out. I think,
• 1:11:03
  yeah, yeah, that's a that's a good talker. I think Phillips may
• 1:11:10
  be built for a different position than what he currently plays, but he's still
• 1:11:14
  really good. He is. Yeah, I like him as a Viking.
• 1:11:18
  Ninety five. I do too. By the way, ninety five the best
• 1:11:21
  ever. Ninety five is a guy whose career was cut short pretty early via
• 1:11:28
  injury. It's like a foot issue, like a planter fasciatis. There was
• 1:11:33
  some good injury. I think he even and I may be totally wrong about
• 1:11:38
  this, but it's caneccio Desi, caneccio Desi. I'm saying that's so wrong.
• 1:11:42
  Please forgive me. I think he even didn't he deal with cancer.
• 1:11:46
  You might be right. I don't know exactly, but but yeah, either
• 1:11:50
  way, he is currently listed as the best Viking to wear ninety five.
• 1:11:56
  Another notable Viking to wear ninety five was Shirre Floyd in his rookie year.
• 1:12:03
  But yeah, even with all the potential, Udezzi only gained an avy of
• 1:12:09
  twenty one etfetti odenigbo. He wasn't bad. He had one season where he
• 1:12:14
  was really fun to watch. He flashed a little bit. I can't remember
• 1:12:17
  if it was nineteen or twenty, but he flashed for sure and was a
• 1:12:23
  lot of fun to watch. It looks like it was probably twenty twenty.
• 1:12:30
  Oh, I was totally wrong on Udezzi. His leukemia was one of the
• 1:12:36
  initial catalysts for his retirement because he I'm pretty sure he beat it, and
• 1:12:43
  then he tried to return back to the NFL after he beat cancer, and
• 1:12:46
  I think he had some foot pain, some lower extremity pain issues as a
• 1:12:55
  result of his cancer treatment, so he wasn't able to compete back at that
• 1:13:00
  same NFL level. But sounds like he beat leukemia, which is kind of
• 1:13:03
  crazy. So it is. That's one of the toughest cancers too. Yeah,
• 1:13:08
  so good for him, and I know he's still around and he's still
• 1:13:10
  around the game. I think he was a USC coach for a little while.
• 1:13:15
  He's bounced around pretty good too. So another notable ninety five. Ye
• 1:13:20
  wash, who are you thinking we'll finish your sentence because you just pulled that
• 1:13:26
  up and now I see that's exactly who I was gonna mention Bryce Pop or
• 1:13:30
  it and I didn't even, I guess fully realize that he was a Viking.
• 1:13:35
  I know Bryce Pop for being a Buffalo Bill more than I know him
• 1:13:40
  playing for any other team. Yep. Well, he played for the Packers
• 1:13:44
  almost have his career, and then the Bills for maybe a third, then
• 1:13:47
  Jacksonville, and then his last season was with the Vikings. But Bryce Pop
• 1:13:51
  is an alum of you and I, which is our alma mater yep,
• 1:13:57
  And he's now back at you and I. He's a coach, yeah,
• 1:14:00
  and he has been for at least a couple of years, two three years.
• 1:14:03
  He'd be so fun to talk to and I don't think it'd be unattainable
• 1:14:06
  to talk to that guy. So Bryce, Pop, if you're out there
• 1:14:09
  listening, Yeah, school, we can even have some rivalry because he is
• 1:14:14
  definitely a better packer than anywhere else. Wow, well his av I think
• 1:14:19
  he was a better Bill. He had an incredible nineteen ninety five season with
• 1:14:24
  the Bills. His first year with the Bills. I think he was Defensive
• 1:14:27
  Player of the Year that year. He was a longer packer than anywhere else,
• 1:14:32
  but yeah, the Bills, he was probably probably sacks that year too.
• 1:14:36
  Wow, That's that's when he really turned it on. Admittedly, he
• 1:14:40
  didn't do a whole ton stat wise for the Vikings, but he still wore
• 1:14:45
  the purple and gold and he had the horns on his helmet, so we'll
• 1:14:48
  claim him. Yeah. So yeah, that was a fun little nugget to
• 1:14:53
  find as I was digging through ninety fives for the Vikings. Yeah, all
• 1:14:58
  right, ninety six, we're getting down to it. We got four more,
• 1:15:00
  Yeah, ninety six Brian Robinson. Yeah, just a hard worker,
• 1:15:06
  consistent player. He was fun to watch and was on the other side of
• 1:15:11
  the line from Jared Allen for a while too. It went ray edwards into
• 1:15:14
  Brian Robinson. I think he was like a fourth round pick out of Texas.
• 1:15:17
  I think he was kind of like a fun yet kind of weird dude.
• 1:15:21
  But he would totally take that as a compliment, and that's how I
• 1:15:25
  mean it. I'm pretty sure his rookie year he came in a training camp
• 1:15:28
  with corn Rolls. He I think I heard a story one time. He's
• 1:15:32
  also one that the Vikings kind of put out in the media. He's a
• 1:15:34
  good personality. I think they still do. Like ninety six questions is still
• 1:15:39
  a segment that comes up every once in a while. I think you're a
• 1:15:43
  but he told a story one time. He's from He was trying to buy
• 1:15:46
  his first house ever as an adult, and I guess in Texas in the
• 1:15:50
  area he had come from, like one hundred thousand dollars was like a really
• 1:15:55
  nice house, or you know, a respectable house. You know, I
• 1:15:59
  say it respectable. That's such a mean thing to say one hundred thousand dollars
• 1:16:02
  is like a nice house where he did come from. And then he was
• 1:16:05
  working with a realtor in Minnesota and he's like, yeah, let's let's look
• 1:16:09
  at places, you know around one hundred thousand dollars. And he said,
• 1:16:12
  the places this realtor took me to was just disgusting because you think, like,
• 1:16:17
  I feel like a Minneapolis even condo or something for one hundred grand.
• 1:16:21
  Like I'm probably offending a lot of people I don't mean to, but probably
• 1:16:27
  not what he thought was a nice there's maybe it's just a difference in the
• 1:16:30
  cost of living between Texas and Minnesota's different. He'd be another really fun one
• 1:16:36
  I think to for to talk to. Yeah, that'd be that'd be awesome.
• 1:16:41
  We had come up with ninety six questions for him, maybe nine point
• 1:16:45
  six question but yeah, his av was fifty six, which admittedly is attainable.
• 1:16:51
  So somebody who gets to five, six, seven Pro Bowls, which
• 1:16:57
  is a phenomenal career, I probably just described a borderline Hall of Fame career.
• 1:17:02
  Somebody could overtake that. But I'd be okay if Brian Robertson held on
• 1:17:08
  to the best ever ninety six title for a long time. So when we
• 1:17:14
  get into the last three here in ninety seven, ninety eight, and ninety
• 1:17:16
  nine, I think the best ones to wear them have all been very recent
• 1:17:23
  players, and I don't know that it's really that close. Yeah, well,
• 1:17:28
  ninety seven's a little close if you just look at the numbers. I
• 1:17:30
  don't know much about him, but Henry Thomas played for the Vikings from eighty
• 1:17:34
  seven to ninety four, so what eight seasons. Apparently he's got an avy
• 1:17:41
  of seventy ever since, Griffin is the guy. I actually know way more
• 1:17:45
  about ninety seven, although Dustin Baker reminded us that he wore I think fifty
• 1:17:51
  eight for one game against the Chiefs one year in the preseason. Was it
• 1:17:56
  the preseason? I think he said it was preseason. I retweeted this tweet
• 1:18:00
  and it was on our thumbnail that episode. So, but yeah, Everson
• 1:18:03
  Griffin had an avy of seventy seven. Just a phenomenal guy, another fourth
• 1:18:09
  round pick, a guy that he hit. He's a lot of fun.
• 1:18:15
  The Vikings had no problem pushing him out into the media. He was on
• 1:18:18
  a lot of I can't think of the show. There's a show with Mike
• 1:18:24
  Mussman. Vikings Nation or something like that. Weekly during the season, he
• 1:18:28
  would come on, He's dealt with some stuff, some stuff all I feel
• 1:18:32
  mental health kind of stuff in I don't know, I would expect that that
• 1:18:40
  stuff kind of ended his career. It definitely didn't help prolong it. But
• 1:18:44
  he does seem like one of those guys that's got a heart of gold and
• 1:18:46
  would never purposely put anyone out or put anyone in harm. But yeah,
• 1:18:53
  I mean, and I think he's also not ashamed of saying like, hey,
• 1:18:58
  go get your mental health figured out. Like I'm definitely a fan of
• 1:19:01
  Everson Griffin, but I think you are too. Oh yeah, for sure.
• 1:19:05
  Henry Thomas, though he was very close, played from eighty seven to
• 1:19:09
  ninety four, and Everson Griffin was a four time pro bowler. Henry Thomas
• 1:19:15
  was a two time pro bowler and got quite a few votes in the AP
• 1:19:21
  All Pro pol in ninety three. It was I think he finished second in
• 1:19:28
  the All Pro voting in ninety three, so respectably a very good player.
• 1:19:33
  He bounced around as well early part of his career with the Vikings and then
• 1:19:38
  he went to the Lions and then the Patriots before he retired in two thousand,
• 1:19:44
  but his career AV is one thirteen. Oh wow, Okay, yeah,
• 1:19:49
  his av with the Vikings is seventy, but his career AV is one
• 1:19:54
  thirteen. So a probably overall better statistical player than and Griffin. But as
• 1:20:00
  far as the Viking's crews go, and of course we mentioned Harrison Phillips currently,
• 1:20:04
  where's ninety seven? Yeah, and he I mean, I don't know
• 1:20:08
  that he'll go down and take that over from Everson Griffin, but it's not
• 1:20:14
  impossible. He'd need to really have a long and more consistent career because Phillip's
• 1:20:19
  current AV is fifteen. But yeah, it's not not totally impossible. All
• 1:20:27
  right, Two more ninety eight? One more? Well this kind of goes
• 1:20:30
  between ninety eight and ninety seven. Sure, So who is the best ninety
• 1:20:36
  eight ever? Lynnville jokes? Okay, So I had a tweet in January
• 1:20:42
  of twenty eighteen. Do you know what happened in January of twenty eighteen?
• 1:20:45
  You're gonna have to Oh it's what if I said it was a part of
• 1:20:48
  the twenty to seventeen season. Oh yeah, Minneapolis miracle. Okay, So
• 1:20:54
  I retweeted my personal account. I retweeted a sports illustrated video of Everson Griffin
• 1:21:00
  watching the miracle. Yes, freaking out and I love that clip. It's
• 1:21:04
  one of my favorite clips. The wo just watched this clip with me really
• 1:21:09
  quick. The miracle happens, and then and then it shows the sideline and
• 1:21:16
  Lynn Vaal Joseph, the best Viking to everwhere ninety eight, turns to Everson
• 1:21:20
  Griffin, who is in disbelief. Joseph picks up Everson Griffin and bounces him
• 1:21:28
  around like a freaking rag doll in celebration. I think Griffin's jumping to a
• 1:21:31
  little bit, but it's still that's how Lynnvaal Joseph was. And I just
• 1:21:36
  I tweeted and said, big dude, I said, Everson Griffin, who
• 1:21:40
  was more than two hundred and sixty pounds, was picked up and bounced around
• 1:21:44
  by his teammate Lynval Joseph linnvall is a monster. He was a big dude.
• 1:21:49
  Yeah. He was a really big dude. Uh Yeah, and the
• 1:21:53
  best Viking to everywhere ninety eight Vikings av of fifty two. Uh. He's
• 1:21:58
  still kind of kicking around in the league. He's played for lot of teams
• 1:22:00
  at this point, started with the Giants. Was a big Viking free agent
• 1:22:03
  signing in twenty fourteen. Played with the Vikings until well through the nineteen season
• 1:22:10
  and then the Chargers a couple of years, latched on with the Eagles for
• 1:22:14
  their Super Bowl run. I think he lost the Super Bowl with them in
• 1:22:17
  twenty two and then played last season with the Bills for a little bit.
• 1:22:21
  And I wouldn't rule him out to show up back in the league somewhere because
• 1:22:26
  he's a massive giant that can still get the job done. He was a
• 1:22:31
  pro bowler in sixteen and seventeen and both with the Vikings. Yeah, super
• 1:22:38
  underrated apparently, So Yeah, that dude just plugged holes almost as well as
• 1:22:43
  Pat Williams. The second best was DJ wan Hm to wear ninety eight in
• 1:22:47
  Vikings history, and yeah, DJ could have had a chance. He's starting
• 1:22:53
  to turn his career around. Before that quad tear, I believe it was
• 1:22:57
  last season DJ was starting to click. I know Dustin Baker loves to say
• 1:23:02
  that for a while, he only ever played good against the Bears, but
• 1:23:06
  last year he started again before his injury, started playing good against everybody.
• 1:23:11
  So I really wanted the Vikings to re sign DJ, but apparently they didn't
• 1:23:15
  want him enough so the Panthers signed him in free agency. They didn't want
• 1:23:20
  him. I really was hoping you wouldn't just let that slide. That is
• 1:23:25
  not my joke. I saw it from about three thousand other people on Twitter,
• 1:23:29
  So yeah, DJ want him. I like him, I'm a fan,
• 1:23:30
  but I wish he was still a Viking. All right, ninety nine,
• 1:23:34
  let's finish this thing off. Ninety nine. Who's the best ever ninety
• 1:23:39
  nine of Daniel Hunter? Daniel Hunter. I was kind of I'm surprised at
• 1:23:45
  how surprised I was when I saw his av of seventy two. Yeah.
• 1:23:48
  Yeah, I think he was a third round pick out of LSU. I'm
• 1:23:53
  pretty sure he either got zero sacks in LSU or like less than two or
• 1:23:58
  three, and then came to the Vikings and within a year or two was
• 1:24:03
  an elite NFL player. Yeah, his second year he got twelve and a
• 1:24:09
  half sacks. So played very well for the Vikings for a long time.
• 1:24:14
  I'm sad he's gone time pro bowler, played nine years and he's still only
• 1:24:23
  twenty nine right now. So yep, Houston got a good player. I
• 1:24:30
  wish the Vikings would have been able to figure out how to keep him,
• 1:24:32
  although I don't know that may have just sacrificed some future future cap space and
• 1:24:39
  we talked a few weeks ago. Daniel Hunter is still one of the highest
• 1:24:42
  paid Vikings this year and he's not even on the team anymore, but I'm
• 1:24:46
  a fan of him. Next up after Daniel Hunter was one of my first
• 1:24:51
  favorite Vikings Chris Hovan. Yeah. I have his jersey hanging up in my
• 1:24:57
  closet. I've had it since I was a kid. I don't know.
• 1:25:01
  I don't know how awesome of an off the field person he is. I've
• 1:25:05
  heard some stuff, but I don't want to slander his name. I'm sure
• 1:25:09
  he's I'm sure he's a good dude and doing just fine now. But on
• 1:25:13
  the field, he was one of my first favorite players. I loved,
• 1:25:15
  loved watching him. I remember my first Vikings game I attended watching Chris Homan
• 1:25:21
  and the rest of the Vikings along with Randy Moss and Colepepper go against the
• 1:25:26
  Bears, and I think it was even Rex Grossman at that point too.
• 1:25:29
  So yeah, yeah, not too far behind him. Al Noga, I
• 1:25:34
  think is how he pronounced his last name. Yeah, but he had a
• 1:25:39
  decent career with the Vikings as well. He had eleven and a half sacks
• 1:25:44
  in nineteen eighty nine. I'm assuming that led the team. No, no,
• 1:25:49
  ev, do you remember who else played on the Vikings in nineteen eighty
• 1:25:54
  nine. You're gonna have to remind me. I'm led the team in sacks.
• 1:25:59
  If you didn't lead team, he was second. So I'm pretty sure
• 1:26:02
  I'm correct on this. I believe Chris Dolman. Oh yeah, that had
• 1:26:09
  made twenty more than twenty sacks for the Vikings in nineteen eighty nine. Let
• 1:26:13
  me look this up, just to make sure, to make sure I'm not
• 1:26:16
  totally coming out of left field with all this. This was the eighty nine
• 1:26:21
  season we're referencing. Why is this not showing up? Super easy? Give
• 1:26:29
  me just a second. Can you search just for Dolman? Here we go.
• 1:26:31
  I could. Yeah, Chris Dolman had twenty one sacks for the Vikings
• 1:26:36
  in nineteen eighty nine. Henry Thomas was or I'm sorry, al Nogo was
• 1:26:44
  third. He was third on the team with eleven and a half sacks.
• 1:26:46
  That defense must have been lights out. Maybe Keith Millard had eighteen sacks for
• 1:26:51
  the Vikings that year. Keith Millard was also the ap NFL Defensive Player of
• 1:26:59
  the Year eighty nine, which I didn't know until two seconds ago, which
• 1:27:01
  is kind of embarrassing for me. But yeah, to have a season where
• 1:27:06
  you are third on the team with sacks, with more than eleven sacks,
• 1:27:11
  that's wild especially, and maybe that's one reason I'm just hearing about al Noga
• 1:27:15
  for the first time right now. Well, I think he was a pretty
• 1:27:19
  respectable number ninety nine. Absolutely not a Danil Hunter and not even necessarily a
• 1:27:26
  Chris Hovin, but he's up there with him. So I wonder if he
• 1:27:30
  got injured at some point, because after ninety nine or eighty nine, he
• 1:27:36
  didn't really do a whole ton. He started every game in ninety and then
• 1:27:43
  only eight games in ninety one. Yeah, but then he came back in
• 1:27:46
  ninety two, started every game, then left for Washington and only started four
• 1:27:51
  games, and then he only appeared in four games with Indianapolis in ninety four.
• 1:27:57
  Yeah, when his career. So, I wonder I still got hit
• 1:28:00
  with either one good injury or a couple couple injuries, which kind of sucks,
• 1:28:04
  but yeah, seems like a good dude. Yeah, Ala Patti is
• 1:28:10
  his name. It's not just al. So, yeah, what do you
• 1:28:13
  think of all these numbers? What's your favorite? There's a couple of big
• 1:28:17
  ones my of just this set of numbers, eighty to ninety nine, number
• 1:28:23
  eighty. Yeah, well, Chris Carter. He will always be one of
• 1:28:26
  my favorite players for the Vikings. I have four things of his just right
• 1:28:31
  behind us. I had a jersey of his at one point. I'm pretty
• 1:28:36
  sure I have a picture. I think I have a picture. I've seen
• 1:28:40
  a I don't have a picture of you as a kid. I've seen a
• 1:28:43
  picture of you as a kid with eighty on them. It was either eighty
• 1:28:45
  or eighty four. I can't remember now now I'm questioning it. But anyways,
• 1:28:50
  he was a lot of fun to watch just in the the late nineties
• 1:28:56
  as a kid coming up as a Vikings fan. And I know there was
• 1:28:59
  a lot of his career I missed out on because I was just too young
• 1:29:00
  to appreciate it. But I don't know, and just kind of seeing his
• 1:29:05
  broadcasting career continue and I don't know, I just have a lot of respect
• 1:29:12
  for Chris Carter. He'd be one of the he'd be on my short list
• 1:29:15
  of Vikings. I'd want to have a beer with or Vikings. I'd want
• 1:29:17
  to have lunch with or something, spend, spend have a meal with at
• 1:29:21
  least Yeah, yeah, hang out with for a short amount of time.
• 1:29:25
  Anyways, he'd be on the short list for sure. Yeah, so what
• 1:29:29
  about you, Well, I don't know about numbers, but for me,
• 1:29:31
  I would still if I could sit down and spend the same short amount of
• 1:29:35
  time with anybody right now, it would still be Chris Hovan. There you
• 1:29:39
  go, because he did he he was my first favorite player, So it
• 1:29:45
  would be kind of like, you know, eleven year old Austin getting to
• 1:29:48
  meet this idol, which they say, never meet your meet your heroes.
• 1:29:54
  So I don't know if that would work out perfectly, but I think,
• 1:29:57
  yeah, if I could, just if I had one to meet and hang
• 1:30:00
  out with for a little bit, it would definitely be Chris Hovan. Although
• 1:30:03
  any of these names really, even the guys that have that lower score and
• 1:30:09
  you know, didn't make a huge impact in their careers, I'd still love
• 1:30:13
  to hang out with them and see what it was like. I'd have a
• 1:30:15
  ton of questions which to think that we could sit down with any of these
• 1:30:18
  guys from not just this list, but any of the past few numbers list,
• 1:30:24
  it's not crazy to think about, Like, some of these guys are
• 1:30:26
  out there, and we've open invitation this time last year. If you telled
• 1:30:30
  me, if you had told me like, oh, you get to talk
• 1:30:32
  to Dustin Baker on a somewhat regular basis, I'd be like, Oh,
• 1:30:35
  that's really freaking cool, Like I don't think that's possible, But here we
• 1:30:40
  are. So maybe maybe we should get pulled and reach out to some of
• 1:30:43
  these guys. Yeah, maybe we will, and maybe maybe we will.
• 1:30:47
  We will for sure be doing something awesome in just a few days. Heck,
• 1:30:53
  yes we will. So Episode fifty of the Skull Hop is coming up.
• 1:30:57
  And yes, we've been doing this longer than a calendar year, so
• 1:31:00
  we're not quite at fifty two episodes yet, you know, but we've been
• 1:31:03
  weekly since the week one of the NFL, the twenty twenty three NFL season.
• 1:31:10
  We started in May of twenty twenty three. Episode fifty, it's a
• 1:31:14
  big episode. It's coming up, and one thing we talk about is the
• 1:31:18
  Vikings. The other thing we talk about is beer, Iowa beer, Iowa
• 1:31:23
  beer specifically, So we are going to be going on something we've talked about
• 1:31:26
  a few times our brew Hop skull Hop, brew Hop Tour or whatever we're
• 1:31:30
  calling it, of some of the bigger Iowa breweries, and I couldn't be
• 1:31:35
  more excited. We're both pretty pumped, and we've been texting back and forth
• 1:31:40
  like all week about how pumped we are. So yeah, Episode fifty it's
• 1:31:45
  going to be pretty special. And we figured everything kind of just aligned with
• 1:31:49
  kind of the quiet part of the NFL offseason, our love for beer.
• 1:31:54
  I'm a teacher, you have some flexibility in your work schedule, so summer
• 1:31:58
  works out really well for to just kind of hit the road for a couple
• 1:32:01
  of days and go visit some breweries across our great state of Iowa. And
• 1:32:06
  that's what we plan to do. Yeah, So this is kind of like
• 1:32:11
  the not really announcement because we've already announced it, but it's kind of like
• 1:32:14
  the last call almost, Like, so we plan to hit up some of
• 1:32:17
  the bigger breweries in Iowa. We're talking Big Grove and Reunion and where else,
• 1:32:26
  Confluence and Exile stuff like that. So if you are an Iowa brewery
• 1:32:31
  and you've heard of us, or maybe even talk to us a little bit
• 1:32:33
  and we haven't nailed down anything yet. This is your last chance, like,
• 1:32:36
  let's do something. We'd love to talk to you guys. Up.
• 1:32:40
  We love beer, we love learning about beer. We have a future video
• 1:32:45
  coming out that outlines the whole process where we did our skull Hop brew so
• 1:32:51
  we like the process. So if you're an Iowa brewery and you want us
• 1:32:56
  to come and talk to us, and big or smaller or whatever'd love to
• 1:33:00
  come talk to you guys. So last chance until we just walk in the
• 1:33:02
  doors and again are respectful paying patrons and we don't ruin anything. But yeah,
• 1:33:09
  we're coming, So let us know if you want us to come,
• 1:33:11
  and we'll figure something out. Yeah. Yeah, And I'm just excited to
• 1:33:15
  hang out, drink some really good beer, and keep doing what we've been
• 1:33:20
  doing for forty nine episodes now, and that's drinking beer and talking about the
• 1:33:25
  vikings. Absolutely. So speaking of drinking really good beer, what do you
• 1:33:30
  think about this? Oh man, I'm gonna get the name wrong. The
• 1:33:32
  trush the crush changerin wheat. You said that we've had this together before,
• 1:33:38
  and I think that's false. I think this is my first time having this.
• 1:33:41
  Okay, I think I mean I'm probably misremembering something. I think I've
• 1:33:46
  had this with Front of the Show Forest when I go when I go to
• 1:33:50
  five cities, including today, because I was there just a few short hours
• 1:33:56
  ago. When I go there, I get crushing on Ymber. That's what
• 1:34:00
  I Get's beat. It's the number five. It's fifth beer on their menu,
• 1:34:04
  and I just say, I want to number five, and that's what
• 1:34:06
  I get, unless I'm with you and you forced me to get something else.
• 1:34:11
  But I'm ninety nine percent sure I have not had this yet. It
• 1:34:15
  was delicious. Yeah, so delicious that we're pretty much gone, basically going
• 1:34:20
  to save the rest for our school at the end. But really good beer.
• 1:34:26
  Like I said at the beginning, it tastes like orange crush, the
• 1:34:30
  pop, the soda, depending on where you are and how you say that
• 1:34:33
  pop. Yeah, that's what we say in Iowa. That's what I say,
• 1:34:36
  but some people don't. But it tastes like that with a good wheat
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  beer. I still stand by my comparison to a summer shandy of a wheat
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  beer with lemonade. It's kind of that with orange pop. It's good.
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  It's a kind of combination of the two. It's refreshing, it's easy drinking
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  five and a half percent. It's not gonna cause you to stumble out of
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  anywhere after a couple Yeah, and I don't know. I like it and
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  I'll definitely have it again. Yeah, I couldn't agree more with everything you
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  just said. It's really good. I'd be happy to order it again.
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  I think the only reason you wouldn't want to go for this beer is if
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  you hate orange flavored things, which if you do, like, okay,
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  that's that's fine, that's on you. But yeah, I mean, this
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  is really good and it's orange flavored, but it's not like too much,
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  and it's not fake. I wonder if they use like real oranges and they're
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  they would, Yeah, I would expect that they do. Yeah, it's
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  it's really good. So thank you Five Cities for making a good beer.
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  Yeah, we'd love to have more of it sometimes. So yeah, well
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  and maybe we will. Yeah on our brew tour. Absolutely, brew Hop
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  I should say, yeah, school Hop brew Hop. Yeah, that's what
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  we should have made t shirts. Oh well, next year, next time.
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  Yeah, all right, we're doing it. We have to do it
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  next year. Yeah, it's the first annual, so though, all right,
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