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The Colts Report with Will Retherford & Sam Frick (2.102.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back Colts fans to the Central Indiana Sports Report for this week's Colts Report.
• 0:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: One that I assume is not gonna be as optimistic as some others.
• 0:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Colts coming off back to back heart breaking losses that I choose to look at as performed very well at times, most people look at as two failures and I understand that.
• 0:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I still have some hope in this team.
• 0:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: As I've assumed all along, there are limits with Daniel Jones.
• 0:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like this team's chance is going forward, and at least winning the division of making the playoffs.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I am joined by Will Rutherford of the strictly biased podcast.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Excellent podcast this week.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Go check that out.
• 0:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Sam Frick of ANAC sports to give me their opinions on where the cult stand now at eight and four
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: week 14 and Sam and we've said the last three weeks, the biggest game of the year and it continues this week.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's start with you, Sam.
• 1:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you like the Colts'
• 1:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not as, but I'm not as big a Debbie down or some people are.
• 1:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I still feel optimistic of play up the playoffs can still happen.
• 1:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: However, that being said, the loss to Kansas City, the way the way it, the way it would happen, especially not getting JT involved.
• 1:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: We've already mentioned that in Nazium.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: That was certainly a concerning factor coming into the Houston Damien, a herder chances for home field advantage, and then you get this loss to Houston, just missed opportunity after missed opportunity.
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And in that game, it's here.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's been plenty of chances to win that game and just put it in quite get it done.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just plenty of just mistakes in that game and JT got once again need to get JT more of all because I had it was a statley and that when JT gets 90 or more rushing yards a song, I think it is, they're sitting up and he had 85.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I did see it, which is better, but at the same time, it's like we have struggled to get JT involved in the offense and Daniel Jones has looked, well, he doesn't look like the Daniel Jones from the first half of the year so far.
• 2:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've struggled at his moments, had some misses, we've been told Daniel Jones had been playing through a fibuate injuries that writes.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: like there's some concerns from not only from a performance standpoint, for me, from a health standpoint, we know that saw Skarner had to take out of the game because of a calf injury, similar to what I think killing Kenny Moore suffered earlier this year, so there's concern from that standpoint there.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: So part of me, so we're kind of back to where we were earliest, early season where injuries could potentially be up and the killings heal, no pun intended, if the colds,
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: are not able to weather through some of these, these lingering injuries over the core of the season.
• 2:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And right now, we need it.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We are our play calling has to be better right now.
• 3:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have struggled the last few weeks of gaining consistent play calling right now.
• 3:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: We need to get time to warm more balls.
• 3:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: You only had three catches for 22 yards.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: He is a much better player than what the numbers tell you here.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's so poor.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Beyond the stats, we need him involved.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: in the passing game, we need to get, you know, the utilize outpourses, home run ability is a wide receiver.
• 3:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've got to take care of the football better.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of things we got to do better, quite frankly, Greg, and right now, I think there's a lot of source search right now for the folks.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And will.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to get your opinion.
• 3:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: We heard it on the strictly biased podcast every week.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Will wraps up the week and names as winners and losers in his top.
• 3:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Super Bowl contenders.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I do want to let everybody know that the from the cults is that a peer sauce gardener will is going to be okay and is likely to play on Sunday.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Will your thoughts on where the cults stand?
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: The sauce gardener news is true.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and then Apple star reported it.
• 4:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think this cold team has been a day late to dollar short when it's mattered the most.
• 4:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: The last five years, it's continued this year to be quite frank with you.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: If this is the game that you cannot get up for, go into Jacksonville, try to industry.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been going on since Chuck Pagano and Andrew Luck, where the head coach and quarterback, then you don't deserve to make playoffs in my opinion.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: You, you were exactly what the media said you were when you played a bunch of weak opponents and you bullied them and then when it the going got tough and you had to play teams that are actually worth a shit You didn't put it together.
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: The colds have it all out in front of them.
• 4:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately Elos today and they really are Elos on Sunday.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: They do not control their destiny in any way shape or form it basically Jacksonville controls their destiny to go when the division
• 4:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: The fact the matter is this coldsteam has to go win on Sunday, otherwise the playoffs are getting to be wishful thinking.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's absolutely right.
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: It all kind of hinges on this one.
• 5:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's why we said the chief's game was the biggest game of the year.
• 5:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about home field advantage throughout the playoffs.
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you win that game, you got an opportunity to go do that.
• 5:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: In Houston, you got an opportunity to put a game and a half essentially between you and the team that most people believe is the co best team and the division despite Jacksonville's record.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And now that you lose both of those, this one just is huge and it's a franchise that used to the cults for the first, I don't know, a half of Jacksonville's existence.
• 5:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a guaranteed two wins every year and now it's kind of seem like it's been payback.
• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, this Jacksonville team, as we've talked about all year, is talented.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's no doubt about it.
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've drafted the top of the draft every year, and they've done a pretty solid job recently doing that, starting with Trevor Lawrence, who's, at least a top half, quarter back in the league.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't seem to me a team that should be on the cult's level, the cult have any kind of aspirations.
• 6:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're true, and you know, you go look at Jacksonville's entry port.
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty bad.
• 6:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are really banged up.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is a definitely a game.
• 6:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are going to hope that they can get some guys back healthy for the issue with Trevor Lawrence is that he is a quarterback.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he is on a heater, he is a top three quarterback in the league.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a terms of arm talent.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: If he's delivering a good ball and he gets on one, it doesn't matter.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: He is one of those quarterbacks.
• 6:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: one of those games against the bingles and his receivers couldn't catch the ball so sometimes it doesn't matter when he's on a heater sometimes it doesn't the fact the matter is though when you were talking about a quarterback that can be that jaw shell in the home's level of passer he can be that accurate now on the flip side of that as he can also give up a lot of turnovers too he will give the ball up and put it to harm's way so a cult of hits
• 7:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: been pretty successful this year, turning ball over.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jacksonville's defense has really as well.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is one of those games you expect probably.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you turn over a piece and then who can make the most out of that?
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Who can go to score off of that turn over?
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: The cults have struggled this season with preventing teams and holding them to no points when Daniel Jones or the ball
• 7:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just I'm worried that this is a Lorentz just heater game that that is the one thing that scares me because it feels like every year no matter what against this cold steam he he just turns into another guy.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Sam we're going to talk more about the Jacksonville game in particular.
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: on Friday afternoon and our game preview where we'll make our predictions.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a game that's big enough to talk more, to talk about it twice.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I kind of disagree with you.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I watched Jacksonville a few times because I thought they might be
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: 18 worthy of keeping an eye on, and I just haven't seen it.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just think they have too many weaknesses, and if Shane Steiken has the team as prepared as he has most of the season, I think the culture run over this team, of course, that's what I said about Houston last week too.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: We saw, we saw the reason I thought that for much of the game, but also we saw the reasons that its will has been concerned, and that's why they lost the game.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you one thing, Sam, I'm glad they didn't sit down and make a deal with Daniel Jones after week nine.
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry because it leads to kind of a transition to my next point.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like to play a game called Super Saiyan's Hot Seedometer, because this is becoming a familiar trend these days in the hot sea.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you have to mention two dice in particular that must be on the hot seedometer, and that is Chris Boward and Shane Stein.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you have to mention that those two are on the hot sea as we speak.
• 9:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 9:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: If the cult fall apart, if they lose the chance of it, and they go on this loose history, I told you guys, when we were doing well, we were against that point where the status didn't get tougher, right?
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so we have to be able to take care of business against teams that we need to beat, right?
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: If we fall apart and we missed the playoffs entirely,
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: First off, first bow was out of the door, or as we speak.
• 9:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Shay Steking, you're sweaty.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is, this to me, this is to me, the biggest game in Jacksonville in Indianapolis, Colt's history.
• 9:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: If they can somehow figure out a beat, beat Jacksonville on the road, say good morning, good afternoon, to your playoffs.
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Does I don't know how you get out of this losing streak after that?
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: How high is the hot theater meter on Daniel Jones?
• 10:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: If they fail,
• 10:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: They could go in a different direction.
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just because they don't have a first round draft pick, doesn't mean they can't go in a different direction.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's warm right now for Daniel Jones.
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's hot yet because I don't think he's because he had such a great start.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give him another chance this week, but if he has another game where he just looks pedestrian or at best, then it starts to heat up.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe he starts thinking about, I hate to use the name Anthony Richardson here.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: May have to mention Anthony Richardson.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's a little more bullish on the hot seat with Daniel Jones and Samus because I think his ass is hot.
• 10:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: because he's going to play four more really good defenses after this game.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: After this game in Jacksonville, well, three more, but I wouldn't, they're going to have to play the 49ers good defense.
• 11:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're actually going to play the C-Ox great defense.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then Houston, which is the Krimdale of Krim of NFL defense, I think that's a chain single.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jones is not the starting quarterback for the Dnapples colds going into next year.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just think that he's going to revert back to Daniel Jones.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just hope he doesn't get devolved this week.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just hope it does not happen.
• 11:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's just a curse on Colts quarterbacks in that stadium.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know what it is.
• 11:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: It does not matter who the Colts have tried it out.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: 10 different starting quarterbacks since luck.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And nobody's been able to figure out what's going on.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: And this is a team that has been largely irrelevant outside of a couple seasons since 2014.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if they don't just go down there and, and shits the bed bad this week, I, I think that the conversation of a contract extension gets pushed away.
• 11:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe a franchise tag.
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: I could see them doing that.
• 11:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to pay him more than he's worth, but if you don't feel like you have a better option than maybe after do that.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Better option is losing than overpaying Daniel Jones and way being patient.
• 12:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious as to your thoughts on how the sauce gardener trade looks up to this point.
• 12:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, like Sunday, if it performs well on Sunday when it's completely healthy, if it's completely healthy, then it's an experiment worth it.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: If they had a decent backfield, it could be a shutdown defense of backfield.
• 12:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: It could be a difference in them advancing in the playoff.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's probably worth the shot.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I also think Chris Ballard's had a second-round draft pick quarterback in mind, and so he didn't mind trading his first, but if this falls apart, Daniel Jones could be out the door as well.
• 13:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: If there's a new general manager in head coach, Daniel Jones isn't everyone's taste as you can tell from this podcast.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: lot of these could change if that happens to because it by that point the way we look at the colds going next year could be entirely different.
• 13:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know we have some veterans on this colds team there that they're going to what they're there if they're starving for some success right now at with the Indianapolis colds.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if things don't work out and they they're going to coach new GM and they've got entirely new direction.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know what what's that what's that message going to be sent to the veterans that have been there for a long time the cult so there's a lot of there's a lot of questions that need to be answered not just with this game but in the coming weeks to follow because even going back to the land of game they don't look that great against the land and nearly lost that game had an upper for Jonathan Taylor so they have not looked great as of like last month or so there's a lot of answers that they need and they need to find right now as we speak and the sauce gardener train
• 13:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: The jury's still out on that.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: We think he's got a lot of potential.
• 14:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: He shows flashes of it, but he's nowhere near consistent enough to live up to that trade so far.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we have got to see the better version of him.
• 14:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just like you need to see the better version, all the entire cold team has a whole beyond just in our jumps.
• 14:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that my evaluation, you guys could tell me I'm wrong.
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: I watched that Broncos commander's game, and I watched Pat Sertane the second, and I say that's a shutdown corner.
• 14:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: Every time they looked his direction, he's just all over, he's blanketed the receiver, and it's like I have not seen that I get the sauces adapting to a new scheme with a new coach and a new system.
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm aware of that, that I have not seen that level of shutdown from him,
• 14:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: with all.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's been awfully getable the last three weeks as well.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: He, there's something not right with him.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think because he's the drape to the drape will.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Soascar had every metric, the best in the NFL.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Cover distance all that stuff.
• 14:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a matter of fitting in, and there is no doubt in my mind, if he's not better than Sertaine, he's number two in the league and cover as a cover corner.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that could be one guy like that can make a complete difference and worth the shot in my mind.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he has not looked like an elite defensive back through regains with the cults.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: This cult's past defense forever, all the flowers we've been is the 30th ranked past defense in the league at this point.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now, part of that is because they were up so big late games.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: They got, they got torched a lot because it's like, okay, we're going to sit back and cover two.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: You can have whatever you can have anything in the inner mid-short intermediate range.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just don't want to get beat over the top.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm aware that the statistics are a bit misleading.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think the linebackers have a lot to play
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: This cold team, it's just like every weakness that this team had kind of got hidden and mask those first eight weeks and it's like everything is just kind of weird.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's ugly head the offensive lines some struggles in terms of their past blocking.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of that has to do with with Daniel Jones in ability to handle pressure or the ability to of Shane Stecken's offense to adapt to pressure, which I think has been rather questionable the last four weeks as well.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: there's just so many questions with this team.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I have that it's like we have just seen the complete 180 flip of how this team is looked.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I just I'm not sure that if if they lose this week, I'm kind of a Sam, I just don't think they recover from a loss like this and the issue with this team.
• 16:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: a lot this week changes everything that i'm still optimistic i think you put this team together and it's best you throw a buckner back in there i believe after this week right
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: You, you, you let that difference of backfield jail.
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not only do you have two great corners at their best.
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: The safety's have been great.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've got a top three nickel back in the NFL.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: If that jails, you get buckner back.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: All the offensive pieces have been so good.
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot to like.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think they go into Jacksonville and win this game comfortably.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: if they don't, I agree with both of you.
• 17:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is, mice will blow it up now if they don't win this.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Greg, I can tell you, we haven't made our prediction yet.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: The culture not running through this game.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is no way.
• 17:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be the most cardiac coal nail biting.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: If they win, it's going to be on the last second field goal or a stop on fourth and goal with the 10 seconds left and they're not running away with this game.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just, the culture didn't stay at win.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that Jacksonville team, with the right game plan, they are very vulnerable at a lot of places and they're dumb and they turn the ball over, the cults, I think are going to, I think the cults are going to have a statement when in Jacksonville, but again, if they don't, if they don't win it, I think if they're not convincing, then
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: if you've watched them all year, they have not been good.
• 18:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: We thought they were going to be good.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is better than the sick.
• 18:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I understand better than the cults.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that I came into the season with high expectations for Jacksonville.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not speaking from somebody who doesn't think that they're talented.
• 18:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know they're talented.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I've watched them even in their wins.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: They have a lot of circumstantial type wins, and I also understand that they're close to being 10 and 2.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: I want it to win so bad.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a game, I just, it's a feel that the colds are going to win away with that.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going to look more into it.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to look more at position by position and have more of a breakdown for Friday's game preview, but it's just a gut feeling more than anything that there's a really good cold team there waiting to get out.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen it the last two weeks.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I'm going to put the proof in the pudding at this point, Sam's probably going to reiterate a point similar to that.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: And Greg, you'll do the position, and you'll say the Colts are 100% better at every position.
• 19:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: They are the superior team at every single position.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: Still be one of those games that you just look in the fourth quarter.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: You say, how is this a game?
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: What?
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can we not just put a team away?
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: And remember, it was back a few years ago.
• 19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: We were the favorites in going to Jatsville.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He just had to win in Jatsville.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: Chats to make the play.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was Carlson Wins, that year.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Jatsville only wanted two games that year.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they were calling for the GM's head in Jatsville.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just got to win in Jatsville.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's got to win in Jatsville.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: we got our ass kicked in Jacksonville to that team.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Trevor Lawrence lives rent free in my head right now.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am very concerned about that match of with the Johnsonville Jadwires.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Regardless on the on-pay for supper, regardless of the metrics, regardless of how good the office has been all year at the end of the day if we come out like dog crap in Jacksonville, none of that's gonna matter if we keep losing the way we've been like right now.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Last thing guys, before the season, I've had the worst case scenario for this season.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Was the Daniel Jones was a top 10 quarterback, they sneaked into the playoffs and they signed him to a long-term contract, and I really hope that we've dodged that bomb.
• 20:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the worst part is, Daniel Jones plays well for, as a top 10 quarterback for first eight weeks, that it looks like the day on Jones' World and we missed the playoffs.
• 21:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: After being the best of me on a fell.
• 21:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would rather do that than be anchored with a $50 million a year Daniel Jones, which is a franchise killer.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: don't find a way to call to give him that contract.
• 21:14
  [SPEAKER_02]: I really I feel like the cults will let him walk before he's not he's just at worth 40 million or 50 million.
• 21:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that you've seen some of these these teams that have signed these quarterbacks to long-term extensions and it's really not paid off.
• 21:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like at this point you've seen kind of the
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: the negative of doing that.
• 21:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: I will be very unhappy if the cults pay him 50 million because it means that you're taking away an alipirce, a Josh downs, a skill player that elevates Daniel Jones's game.
• 21:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then he just becomes the same Daniel Jones, you saw it in your giants.
• 21:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
• 21:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, how good were those two guys on Sunday?
• 21:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Peer some downs.
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's going to be the cults, but he's going to get paid somewhere and he deserves to because he is just absolutely.
• 22:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I've seen an evolution of a NFL receiver recently, quite like Alec Pierce to where every single year he has just added more and more to his game.
• 22:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: He has become a full route tree level, wide receiver, just so good at the point of the catch.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: He wins every 50, 50 ball.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it is.
• 22:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: He is so, so talented.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love watching him play, and I was somebody that kind of thought he was a goof, and just wasn't going to work out for him, and I've been proven to be vitally wrong by that.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Downs, too.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Man, he made some great plays.
• 22:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is a reliable receiver.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Michael Pittman didn't have many stats, but he is so reliable.
• 22:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Another guy who goes and gets the ball.
• 22:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I believe there are better options than Daniel Jones at the price, even without a first round draft pick next year, I just think they're going to be better options.
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if they make the playoffs, they're going to go with Daniel Jones.
• 23:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: If they don't, hopefully Chris Ballard doesn't think the Colts on his way out by signing him to a long-term deal.
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't mind it all if they signed him to.
• 23:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: two or three years if he was if it was worth the price and it didn't think the rest of the payroll.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think right now my I think a hundred and sixty for four years two year opt out would be my would be my offer to Jones.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Probably a little less, but yeah, it's probably going to Minnesota and get more Minnesota will actually be willing to pay him.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: They did they let him walk from the building and look how that paid out for him.
• 23:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Mac Jones will be getable.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: He signed a two year deal this year in San Francisco.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: He played awfully well when he was given his opportunity.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Good.
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you can do it for half the price that you're going to pay Daniel Jones.
• 23:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I take Mac Jones all day.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Half the price.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let the state deal that money is a state deal to the rest of the roster.
• 24:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if your quarterback isn't your star, don't pay him like a star.
• 24:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: At some point, I want to see a quarterback in this generation say, you know what, $30 million a year is plenty to live on.
• 24:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I want to make my team as good as physically possible as can be constructed.
• 24:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that just, I get the whole, you know, you only get one shot at the generational well.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the union would never allow it to happen.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the issue.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: they would come down on that player so hard.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can the cults just please win this game for my mental health?
• 24:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I at least win this game.
• 24:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've never needed a win from a sports team more than this.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like at this moment because I'm worried about the state of Indiana and I'm worried about myself if the cults can't somehow go and lose this.
• 25:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: for the sake of the Ursa family.
• 25:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bill in the season, when the season with the past, you know, Jim Ursa, we need to win this game for the late Jim Ursa, just win, baby, just win.
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care how you do it, just win.
• 25:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: We need to end the, get the monkey off our bat, get the, get the booty man off our butter shoulders.
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got to win this game in chat to the, if we want to be a serious team in terms of legitimate playoffs.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: At this point, I don't care about seeing this point.
• 25:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: We just need to get into playoffs.
• 25:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's win-win because if they don't make the playoffs, we get a new team and a new direction.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what I don't want to do is continue to run this back, and they've got a lot of good pieces on this roster that a good general manager could make work.
• 25:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a strike for another time.
• 25:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, Katz.
• 26:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
• 26:54
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