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Jags A.M. Ep: 97 | Jaguars Need Offense to Click + AFC South Storylines · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into jag Vam this Wednesday, and Ka, Nannie Stevens,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, and John Oser are with me as we
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  Speaker 1: get prepared for the home game against the Colts this week.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 1: What needs to change going into this week if they
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  Speaker 1: want to get their first win of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start out with our big things. Big thing number one.
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  Speaker 1: Is psych as in, what is the psyche of the
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  Speaker 1: team right now? Brian, we heard from Dug Peterson yesterday
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  Speaker 1: talked a lot about the mental and what they need
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  Speaker 1: to focus on and kind of getting in the right
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  Speaker 1: frame of mind with the team right now because obviously
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  Speaker 1: a lot of negativity swirling around, but they need to
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  Speaker 1: focus on what they need to focus on right now,
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  Speaker 1: which is getting a win.
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  Speaker 3: Put some help is not on the way.
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  Speaker 4: It's got to come from within there, which means that
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  Speaker 4: these guys have to look in word, each person individually.
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  Speaker 3: Dug manshift he feels like an amateur psychologists. I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: you both do too, when you're out talking to people
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, what is wrong with this team?
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  Speaker 4: I'm ready to burn my jersey or throw my tickets overboard.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we have heard all these things in recent weeks,
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  Speaker 4: and the reality of it is is that we've talked
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  Speaker 4: about this not being a resilient team, and the only
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  Speaker 4: way that you build any sort of resilience is to
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  Speaker 4: be honest with yourself. Here's who I am, what I am,
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  Speaker 4: what I'm not doing, what I should be doing. The
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  Speaker 4: psyche of this team needs to be fleshed out. That's
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  Speaker 4: what coaches do, right, But everybody John has to be
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  Speaker 4: their own coach and lead themselves through this period right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough.
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  Speaker 4: It's tough when you walk into the building in the
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  Speaker 4: morning and you know that the meeting isn't going to
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  Speaker 4: go well. It's tough when you walk out and you
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  Speaker 4: go through publics and someone says, man, what's.
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  Speaker 3: The matter with you guys? Right now? It's not gonna
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  Speaker 3: get any easier. I lead with this.
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  Speaker 4: Winston Churchill once said, if you're going through hell, just
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  Speaker 4: keep going, just get through it.
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  Speaker 2: I've been going a long time.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that believe that the.
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  Speaker 5: We said two weeks ago the time for talk is over,
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  Speaker 5: and we're two weeks later, so the time for talk
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  Speaker 5: is really over. And that's why it's kind of tough
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  Speaker 5: to answer any of these questions. It's why it's tough
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  Speaker 5: when they stand on the podium answer questions because there's
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  Speaker 5: not much more to say. I I said on Monday
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  Speaker 5: that it was now about pride. You don't wanna be
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  Speaker 5: saying that after four weeks because when you say it's
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  Speaker 5: all about pride, it means you're not talking about the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: It there's two p words. Pride's the one you not
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  Speaker 5: wanna be using in October. But unfortunately it's about pride.
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  Speaker 5: So psych right now is that can you figure out
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  Speaker 5: a way to make this matter enough to play as
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  Speaker 5: a team, to know that you've only been a player
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  Speaker 5: two away and make those big plays?
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  Speaker 2: Can they do that?
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  Speaker 5: That's what we're gonna be going to the game on
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  Speaker 5: Sunday to find out our.
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  Speaker 1: Second big thing is gonna be streaky. There are two
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  Speaker 1: streets that are gonna combine it on Sunday. Teams lost
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  Speaker 1: four games in a row, but they've also it's well
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  Speaker 1: beaten the Indianapolis Colts at home here in Jacksonville for
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  Speaker 1: over a decade.
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  Speaker 2: John.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about this, uh last week when I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the date was exactly, but
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  Speaker 1: it was September of twenty fourteen the last time this
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  Speaker 1: team lost to the Indianapolis Colts. Does that mean anything
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  Speaker 1: this week or is this a matter of where the
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  Speaker 1: team's at right now?
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  Speaker 6: Well?
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  Speaker 5: It it means a little something because the Jaguars players
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  Speaker 5: in this locker room, Uh, who have beaten the Colts
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  Speaker 5: and who beat them twice last year. Uh, they certainly
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  Speaker 5: believe and know that this is a team that they
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  Speaker 5: can beat. Does it matter in terms of Indianapolis's and
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  Speaker 5: I think less accept it. As as Mike Chappell, who
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  Speaker 5: I talked about the Colts every year.
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  Speaker 2: I go back with him twenty years. He knows the Colts.
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  Speaker 5: He said, Look, streaks or streaks until they're not so
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  Speaker 5: until the Colts break it, Somewhere in their mind during
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  Speaker 5: the game, they're thinking, we don't win down here s
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, it helps. But guess what, Bryan, most streaks
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  Speaker 5: that have ever happened in the NFL aren't ongoing, right, No, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: so at some point they end, and you know, nine
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  Speaker 5: straight years, at some point, this one's gonna end.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hope it's not Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, if you go back to the Colts
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  Speaker 4: were a better team when they rolled in here for
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  Speaker 4: the final game in twenty twenty one, a much better
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  Speaker 4: tam In fact, they were a playoff team if they
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  Speaker 4: just won the ball game and they got beat by
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  Speaker 4: a team with an interim coach who had every reason
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  Speaker 4: just to sort of let it go because they knew
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  Speaker 4: that everything was going to change the next year, and
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  Speaker 4: they didn't. So this really it kind of goes back
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  Speaker 4: to what we were talking about. Who's better focused this week?
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  Speaker 4: Who comes down and can execute the game plan and
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  Speaker 4: not let the distractions of either being zero to four
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  Speaker 4: or coming off a big win over the Steelers, or
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  Speaker 4: you know, not having this player or having that player
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  Speaker 4: who can execute the game plan.
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  Speaker 1: Our final big thing today is going to be somebody
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  Speaker 1: we talked a lot about what who and haven't been
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  Speaker 1: doing what they needed to do, But who can step
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  Speaker 1: up here? Brian, We've talked a lot about some of
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  Speaker 1: these players stepping in for other injured players. Who's that
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  Speaker 1: somebody that's going to make the play and make a difference.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I really believe that Dentro Miller showed us last
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  Speaker 4: week that he is capable.
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  Speaker 3: Of being a front line player.
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  Speaker 4: We've been talking about interceptions or forced fumbles or fumbles recovered.
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  Speaker 4: I saw him in the preseason with some limited snaps,
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  Speaker 4: knocked the ball free. I saw him as somebody who
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  Speaker 4: is a play maker, and I think he's a guy
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  Speaker 4: just one game starting under his belt, but a guy
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  Speaker 4: who plays with such great intensity and speed that he
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  Speaker 4: could be that somebody that turns things around on Sunday.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you need the quarterback to do it, and that'll
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  Speaker 5: be an ongoing story until it's not clearly. Brian Thomas
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  Speaker 5: Junior has shown that he has the ability to make
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  Speaker 5: plays above the ex's and o's. That's really right now.
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  Speaker 5: What's kind of held the team back in a lot
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  Speaker 5: of ways. I don't know how many players they have
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  Speaker 5: right now who are showing they can do that. So
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  Speaker 5: I'll go on offense. Brian Thomas Junior. He has done
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  Speaker 5: it already. But he is perfectly capable and probably the
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  Speaker 5: most capable player in this team. Last eight minutes of
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  Speaker 5: a game, when plays have to be made, special has
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  Speaker 5: to be special. He's got the capability of doing it,
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  Speaker 5: has shown a propensity to do it. He's going to
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  Speaker 5: get better and better at it. Maybe this is the
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  Speaker 5: week that he's on. Whatever the highlight shows are called now,
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  Speaker 5: but he's the one people who are talking about after
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  Speaker 5: the game. It's time he can do it.
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  Speaker 1: I think he will, all right, say with us here
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk a little bit about what we
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  Speaker 1: will see from the team against the Colts this week,
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  Speaker 1: and also a little bit about the Jaguars and what
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  Speaker 1: they just need to work on as a whole. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: a lot to work on on both sides of the football.
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  Speaker 1: Talked a little bit about Trevor Lawrence and where he's at,
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  Speaker 1: and we kind of expect a little bit more of him. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: kind of in the funk right now as the whole
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  Speaker 1: team is that they've gone zero to four. So first
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  Speaker 1: this or that is a little bit about kind of
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  Speaker 1: getting Trevor out of that funk when you're going forward.
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  Speaker 1: Does that mean giving him the ball more or does
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  Speaker 1: that mean kind of focusing on the run and taking
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of pressure off.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question.
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  Speaker 4: Well, Doug told us in his news conference that he's
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  Speaker 4: probably given the ball more.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: The whole framework of the future is built around him.
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  Speaker 3: The salary cap is tied to him. You need to
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  Speaker 3: work him through it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean the run obviously helps, but I would say
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  Speaker 4: give them the ball more. Let's go and see if
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  Speaker 4: you can't dial it in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you have to.
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  Speaker 5: And even beyond philosophical long term stuff, this offense is
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  Speaker 5: really not set up to take the ball out of
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  Speaker 5: the quarterback's hands and just grind. To me a physical offense.
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  Speaker 5: It can run, but I don't know that it's an offense.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to run consistently if the other team after
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  Speaker 5: the first quarter figures out, Hey, all these guys want
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  Speaker 5: to do is run. You know, this offense needs to
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  Speaker 5: have the threat of the pass to make that work.
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  Speaker 5: So look at Trevor's the quarterback. There are weapons around him.
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  Speaker 5: It's built to be a balanced Doug Peterson type offense.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think you can all of a sudden turn
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  Speaker 5: into three yards in a cloud of dust.
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  Speaker 1: Delicate balance between the two on the defensive side of
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  Speaker 1: the ball. Talked a little bit about the pass rushant
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  Speaker 1: getting home a ton this year. Josh heines Allen currently
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  Speaker 1: in the concussion protocols, so we don't know what his
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  Speaker 1: availability might be this week.
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  Speaker 2: So when you're.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at the pass rush, what are some things that
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  Speaker 1: they can do? Do you think they should try to
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  Speaker 1: what's more, focus more on stunts or just kind of
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  Speaker 1: do what they've been doing and try to keep that going.
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  Speaker 2: Do we have the answers?
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm asking questions at the coach to figure out,
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  Speaker 1: but I.
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  Speaker 5: Thought the rush was better as the game went on
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  Speaker 5: on Sunday. I think that's what makes some of these
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  Speaker 5: questions tough, because we're looking at it zero to four
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  Speaker 5: is bad and sort of panicky. They did a lot
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  Speaker 5: of things better on Sunday that if they continue to
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  Speaker 5: do those things they can get progressively better. Their problem, Brian,
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  Speaker 5: is they can't win four games.
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  Speaker 3: On second So that's a problem.
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  Speaker 5: So you're in this hole, and the key is really
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  Speaker 5: being patient and continuing to get better at these things
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  Speaker 5: and make those few plays at the end. In terms
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  Speaker 5: of the pass rush, I don't expect Ryan Nielsen to start,
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  Speaker 5: let's say, with you know, weird exotic blitzes. This team
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  Speaker 5: again was built for this front to win rushing forward.
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  Speaker 3: Well, like where Roberts and Harris is in this dish.
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  Speaker 3: All right, that was a mismatch.
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  Speaker 4: Kenyan Green, the left guard, had won three or four
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  Speaker 4: penalties holding off sides, and Roy got up in his
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  Speaker 4: head and just pushed him, I mean just bull rushed him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but listen, they know strategy better than me. But I
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  Speaker 4: think i'd get Eric Armstead inside, especially if you have
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  Speaker 4: Josh we'll find out about him and.
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  Speaker 3: Trayvon on the outside because he's just you see him.
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  Speaker 4: He's this massive man who had great success as an
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  Speaker 4: interior pass rusher when he was in San Francisco and
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  Speaker 4: I would look for ways to put him back at
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  Speaker 4: his position of strength.
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  Speaker 3: I know they've been using him more in different.
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  Speaker 4: Techniques, but well, he looks like an inside rusher to me,
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  Speaker 4: and put him and Roy next to each other and
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  Speaker 4: see if you can't find some mismatches on players that
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  Speaker 4: can't handle that size and length.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, with the pass rush, it truly feels. You know,
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  Speaker 5: you had Ventrel Miller who's stepped up, you had Monteric
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  Speaker 5: Brown who stepped up. I don't know if there's a
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  Speaker 5: specific guy ready to step up on that level, maybe
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  Speaker 5: Miles Cole.
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  Speaker 2: That's asking a lot of.
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  Speaker 5: A rookie to give you huge push as as an
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  Speaker 5: edge pass rusher. The guys who are supposed to be
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  Speaker 5: the core of this thing have to get home.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Back to the offensive side of the ball, we saw
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  Speaker 1: some impressive runs from Tank Bigsby in that game versus
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  Speaker 1: the Texans. He only had seven carries, but he had
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  Speaker 1: of course a couple explosive plays there. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: this turns into a little more even carries between Etn
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  Speaker 1: and Tank or do you think Eten should still be
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  Speaker 1: the main back for the team.
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  Speaker 2: That's gonna be tough.
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  Speaker 5: I think you're seeing the balance they want and Tank's
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  Speaker 5: effectiveness within that balance. I don't know yet if he
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  Speaker 5: is ready for a more full time role in terms
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  Speaker 5: of doing everything that Travis can do in terms of
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  Speaker 5: pass protection, in terms of pass being involved in the
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  Speaker 5: whole offense. And the coach ha didne a nice job,
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  Speaker 5: Brian of using Tank when he can be really effective
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  Speaker 5: and he's maximized those opportunities. Do they want to steer
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  Speaker 5: toward Tank being in more and tipping that they want
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  Speaker 5: to go those directions? I don't know how far you
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  Speaker 5: can lean toward that yet, but boy has been effective.
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  Speaker 2: When he's running.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, if your offensive line, especially the inside, is strong,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you play like the sixty seven Packers and almost.
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  Speaker 3: But we're gonna run right here.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who they are yet.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think so either.
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  Speaker 4: What I like about Tank is what we saw on
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  Speaker 4: the twenty two yard run right, start inside, pop it outside.
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  Speaker 4: He is just a to me, he's a more complete running.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen any reports about.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it feels this was a game last night where
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  Speaker 2: So my sense is that.
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  Speaker 5: From watching it, I would think that they want to
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  Speaker 5: That seemed the feel, But that's the speculation for a
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm to be honest with you, I didn't see
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  Speaker 1: I'd be very motivated this week, I would hope so elsewhere.
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  Speaker 2: And the Colts are always dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: I know there's that streak of them losing here in Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: but at this point, not sure if Anthony Richardson's going
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  Speaker 1: to play as a hit pointer, and they said it's
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  Speaker 5: Well, and he's very capful of doing that. He's very
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  Speaker 5: the Colts come into this. If I'm the Coles, I
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  Speaker 5: look at this as how to be three and two
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  Speaker 5: after this? I mean, that's how they're thinking. They don't
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  Speaker 5: care about the past. They're playing a winless Jaguars team.
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  Speaker 5: They're two and two. They believe that they're a team
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  Speaker 5: that's going to contend. They've got a quarterback that they
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  Speaker 5: and Richardson. I do stanswerm some Jaguars fans, even though
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  Speaker 5: they're only four, they think this is like a little
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  Speaker 3: No, it isn't. You know.
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  Speaker 4: What works in their favor is that Jonathan Taylor can't
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if this defense is ready for that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and we'll talk about this morning to Larow, I'm sure,
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  Speaker 2: They're really beat up, So.
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  Speaker 5: The Jaguars should be able to take advantage of that
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