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Mega Edition: Inside Jean Luc Brunel’s Failed Planned Cooperation With U.S. Prosecutors (4/29/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. The story of Jeffrey Epstein is filled with
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a bunch of condemnable, disgusting people. But one of the
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most disgusting people that was ever in his orbit, that
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ever worked with him, ever worked for him, was Jean
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Luke Brunell, And if anyone could match Epstein's own depravity,
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it was certainly mister Brunel. And when you go back
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and you listen to what people have to say about
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what Brunell was and what he was up to and
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the things he was doing over at mc squared, his
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modeling company, it's honestly some of the most disturbing stuff
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in this whole entire story. I mean, according to an
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employee who worked at mc squared, a woman named Mariza Vasquez.
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According to her, Jean Luke Brunell was bringing girls that
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were fourteen, fifteen, sixteen years old from South America to
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Jeffrey Epstein. And not just to Jeffrey Epstein, but they
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were living at Jeffrey Epstein's house on a rotational basis,
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So when he got tired of one, he'd bring in
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another young girl, and the cycle just continued. To repeat,
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and of course it was Jean Luke Brunell and Jeffrey
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Epstein together that we're engaging in a wide range of
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immigration fraud as well, going so far as to setting
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up sham marriages so that girls could get citizenship in
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America if they were lucky. But most of the girls
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that were brought in from South America, from Central America,
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from Eastern Europe, they were just exploited. And nobody has
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any idea what happened to any of them. Nobody knows
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where they are. But one thing's for certain, it was
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Jean Luke Brunell who opened that pipeline to Jeffrey Epstein.
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So today we have an article from the Wall Street
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Journal talking about Jean Luke Brunell and how j Luc
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Brunell was prepared to testify against Jeffrey Epstein headline the
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accomplice who was going to testify against Jeffrey Epstein then
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went dark. This article was authored by Kadija Saftar and
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Caitlin Ostroff. Jean mu Brunel was ready to turn on
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the man who had been his patron and partner. The
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French modeling scout was prepared to tell prosecutors what he
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knew about Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking. Brunell was secretly negotiating
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in twenty sixteen with lawyers representing Epstein's victims. According to
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newly released Justice Department files, Brunell's lawyer pulled them his
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client recruited girls for Epstein and had incriminating photographs. They
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discussed a date for Brunell to walk into the US
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Attorney's office in New York in exchange for immunity. Look,
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there's no doubt that Epstein and Brunell were trafficking girls
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back and forth. It's not even a question. And even
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people who might want to question the whole grand conspiracy
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of it all, I don't know how you can question
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this portion. There is zero doubt what Brunel was doing.
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Zero doubt. They discussed a date for Brunell to walk
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into the US Attorney's office in New York in exchange
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for immunity. YO, that would have been horrible, because Jean
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Lue Brunell is responsible for many, many lives being ruined,
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many lives. And we're not just talking about young girls
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here either. We're talking about you know, women of age,
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as if they can't be trafficked, as if a woman
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who is of age can't be abused. Now, of course
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there are differences. You know, you got to talk about coercion,
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You got to talk about who went into what with
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their eyes wide open. I mean, just take a look
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at what happened in the Didty trial. And I think
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that's a great example to show you the difference in
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how the law looks at the whole situation. Right, if
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you're under eighteen, you can't consent, right, you're being coerced.
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Now if you're over eighteen, then there's a bunch of
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other things that come into play, the power dynamic where
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you groomed a whole host of things. And then if
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it goes to trial, obviously it comes down to experts
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and it comes down to credibility. That's really what it
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comes down to. But when we're talking about children, it's
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a whole different ballgame, right, a whole lass different ballgame,
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because coercion comes out of the statute. Then, because a
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kid is a kid, and according to the law, you've
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coerced that child. One of Epstein's bfs, Jean lue Brunell,
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has helped get girls. He's wanting to cooperate. According to
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a handwritten note taken by a federal prosecutor in February
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of twenty sixteen, Brunell is afraid of being prosecuted. Well, yeah,
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he should have been, because Jean lu Brunell was just
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as much of a sick bastard as Jeffrey Epstein. He
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didn't have Jeffrey Epstein's money, he didn't have Jeffrey Epstein's
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you know, connection, But Jeffrey Epstein was his patron and
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Jean Luke Brunell was his number one recruiter. If you will,
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who do you think was getting all these girls? Who
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do you think was bringing in girls from Eastern Europe?
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It wasn't Glenn Maxwell, it wasn't Sarah Kellen Vickers. It
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was Jean Luke Brunell. And not only Brunell, but the
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network that he helped put into place. They had several
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different people that were doing this gig and then Brunell
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went dark. Epstein had discovered that negotiation with Brunell were
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taking place the file show. On May third, he fired
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off an email to Kathy Rumler, an attorney he corresponded
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with regularly. He wrote that Brunell was planning to go
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to the US Attorney's office the following week, and one
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of Brunell's friends had asked for three million dollars so
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that Jean Luke would not go in. Now, this whole
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Rumbler situation is bad news, and it's something that the
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Left is going to need to confront. You can't run
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around demanding, you know, accountability from everybody else when you
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have people like Kathy Rummler, who was sitting in her
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office in the White House directing Jeffrey Epstein had a
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battle of CVRA lawsuit. Really, that's something that needs to
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be addressed. What did Obama know and when did he
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know it? You see, people need to understand this goes
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back multiple administrations, and I hear people talking about all
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the way back to Bush. No, it goes all the
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way back to Clinton the first time around. That's when
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Jeffrey Epstein really started to become a player. I mean,
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seventeen trips to the Bill Clinton White House probably something
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that deserves a little bit more of an explanation. Right,
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what was he doing there? Who invited him, why did
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he come? What did you guys talk about? Who did
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he bring with him? Did he have any traffic girls?
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With him, I mean basic questions. And then you have
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Katherine Rumler here, who is just completely out of pocket,
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unbelievably unethical, and frankly, in my opinion, she should probably
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lose her law license. Will she probably not? But should she?
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Yep Epstein told Rumler that Brunel was afraid that he
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would be arrested if he didn't show up. I want
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to know more, Epstein wrote. He also dismissed Brunell's lawyer
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and his friend as scammers and cast out on their credibility.
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Rumler responded hours later, asking Epstein to call and explain.
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The next day, she wrote, awake now talking to Poe
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in twenty minutes. Gregory Poe was Epstein's lawyer in Washington,
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d C. All while sitting in the White House. So
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we can talk about Howard Nutlick, and we can talk
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about all the people that are in the Trump administration
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that were adjacent to Jeffrey Epstein, and we should, but
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we can't forget what has led to this point, and
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we can't forget all the other administrations that have played
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their part. I mean, just think about how many people
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that were part of the Clinton midministration. We're adjacent to Ebstein.
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We're talking about Bill Richardson, We're talking about Doug Band,
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We're talking about Mark Middleton, We're talking about Sandy Berger.
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I mean, the list goes on and on and on.
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And the point is every single administration since then has
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done their part to make sure that there's no justice
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here and to make sure that this investigation goes away.
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And that's why I keep telling you that the current
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administration is just a symptom. Unfortunately, they're just a symptom
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of a greater disease. And unless people are willing to
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hold their own quote unquote team responsible for what occurred,
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then we're never going to get anywhere. It isn't clear
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from the documents why Brunell ultimately kept quiet. He got
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paid off. We all know Epstein gave him a bag,
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or Epstein's people gave him a bag, and that was that.
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What is clear is that Brunell didn't cooperate with prosecut
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and Epstein remained free for another three years until he
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was arrested in twenty nineteen. Three more years of abuse
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because remember, according to all the reports, he was still
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abusing people all the way up to his death. They
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had a chance to stop him how many times, and
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they refused to do so, Ask yourself why, and then
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ask yourself who benefited? Certainly not me, certainly not you,
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and certainly not the girls who were abused. After Brunelle
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stopped negotiation, he wasn't arrested and prosecutors didn't pursue him further. Boy,
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isn't that nice? Huh? Evidence out the wazoo and they
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didn't pursue him further. It set us back a couple
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of years, said David Boyce, one of the attorneys who
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filed civil lawsuits on behalf of Epstein victims, referring to
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Brunell backing out. We know from our lawsuit that there
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were more than fifty girls that were trafficked after this.
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At least that's what we know about, and that's what
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I keep trying to stress. There's a lot of people
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that are coming out and trying to disprove this, but
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it's fatal for them. Their argument dies where it meets
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the facts. And you can argue about Jeffrey Epstein trafficking
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kids to all these different elites, that's definitely an argument
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to be had, but there is no argument whatsoever when
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it comes to Jeffrey Epstein trafficking kids and young adults
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and women in his inner circle that most certainly was happening.
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Jess Staley and Jean lu Brunel two examples right off
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the top of my head. Verifiable facts, verifiable evidence, but
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of course no real investigation because if you haven't figured
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it out yet, they have a lot riding on saying
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that Jeffrey Epstein was just a loan predator. I still
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don't think a lot of people understand the stakes. Like
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what Jeffrey Epstein was doing. It goes far deeper than
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just you know, abusing people. That was part of it,
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that was his proclivity. But his real usefulness was collecting
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information and bundling and moving money. That was always his deal,
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always his thing, and that was why Douglas Lease brought
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him into the fold, And what Jeffrey Epstein learned there
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he just brought over to his new gig, his new business.
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That whole infrastructure that they were using during Iran Contra,
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that whole entire thing was just moved over and that
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template was used for this other portion of what Epstein
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was up to. Brunel was a central figure in Epstein's
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orbit who used this position atop a US modeling agency
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to recruit foreign girls and young women, securing work visas
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and providing the appearance of real employment. So that's the
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company MC squared. That was his modeling agency. And you
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know who one of his partners were, that's right, Steve Manuchin,
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remember from the last Trump administration. Oh yeah, he was
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involved with mc squared. How about we get him to post.
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The Frenchman traveled on Epstein's plane, visited his island, and
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exchanged hundreds of emails with them. And that's the least
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of it. The files also show that federal prosecutors in
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New York were briefed on Epstein's scheme in twenty sixteen.
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The handwritten notes detailed Epstein's trafficking operation and allegations at
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Brunel Glenne, Maxwell and others recruited dozens of underage girls.
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And that is absolutely a fact. Epstein had a whole
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bunch of people working underneath them, And yes, he did
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have some women working for him, one hundred percent. But
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what's happened lately is the fact that Epstein had women
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working for him has been conflated and turned into something else,
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and now people are trying to act like all the
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girls who were abused were in on it. And I
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think that annl Paulina Luna is responsible for a lot
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of that rhetoric. She needs to clarify what she was
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talking about, because there's no doubt that Nadia Marsenkova, Sarah
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Kellen Vickers, Adriana Ross, Leslie Groff, Susanne Hamblin, you know,
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these are women that certainly need to be looked at.
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But if you're going to frame it as all the
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survivors were doing the same thing, you're gonna run into
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a big problem because that's not the case. And even
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with Nadia Marsenkova, my opinion is that we have to
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look at that situation a little bit different. I mean,
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imagine being sold by your parents to Jeffrey Epstein at
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fourteen years old, Like what the fuck? Bro talk about traumatic,
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talk about screwing up your whole entire brain. But what
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I've always said about Nadia is that once Epstein was dead,
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especially once she was eighteen, I feel like she had
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a responsibility to come forward and talk about what she knew,
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and she never did that. So I think Nadia has
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to be punished as well, right, not as brutally punished
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as some of the other women, maybe, but there has
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to be some kind of punishment, and I think that
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should go for anybody who didn't go to the police
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and speak to the authorities and tell them what they know,
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because there's a lot of psychology that goes into this,
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and there's a lot of people talking about this subject
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that don't understand all the nuance. I mean, the brain
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is a very, very very fragile thing, and its response
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to trauma can be severe, and I think a lot
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of people discount what it must be like to be
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I don't know, fourteen, sold by your parents and then
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abused by Epstein and groomed. It's unconscionable and I can't
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imagine the evil that it takes to do something like
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this on both ends, selling your child and buying a child.
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But the talk has always been that it was Jean
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lu brunet Well who was the middleman who set it
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all up, just like he bought Jeffrey Epstein or brought
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Jeffrey Epstein allegedly three triplets that were eleven years old
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for his birthday. But yeah, Jeffrey Epstein's not a pedophile.
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Don't say that. How dare you he liked teenage girls. Yeah,
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well guess what if you diddle one kid, you're a pedophile,
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point blank. Period. Well, we're going to parse words here,
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We're going to talk about semantics when children and teenagers
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are being abused. I'll leave that shit to the intellectual elite.
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I'll be over here waiting for the train of justice
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to come rolling through the station. The Justice Department didn't
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move on Epstein until after a Miami Herald investigation in
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late twenty eighteen brought new attention to Epstein's case. When
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they did arrest Epstein in twenty nineteen, Brunel and Maxwell
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were named as co conspirators in the FBI investigative file.
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The document show no co conspirators here. Jeffrey Epstein did
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it all on his own. Imagine trying to run that bullshit,
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especially now with what everybody can see. Like, Look, it's
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one thing when it's people like me telling you. Now
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you can see the emails for yourself and see how
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these people truly feel about you. They hate you, they
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despise you, and they feel like you're disposable, and they
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certainly don't care about your kids. The prosecutor who took
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the February twenty sixteen. Notes later told Justice Department officials
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that she discussed the meeting with colleagues in the US
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Attorney's Office and the FBI, but that no investigation was opened.
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According to a twenty twenty one government court filing, the
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notes about Brunel were redacted. In the twenty twenty one
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court filing. A spokeperson for the US Attorney's Office in
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New York declined to comment. Joseph Totone, Brunell's attorney, told
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The Wall Street Journal, he advised Brunell to cooperate and
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cut ties with Jeffrey Epstein. I recommended and advised him
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to stop communicating with Epstein, but he never did. To
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tone said, Well, that's because it was all part of
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the plot. My guess is Brunell said he was going
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to cooperate to try and slow things down and to
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try and make things more difficult on the survivors. Kill
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the clock a little bit, give Epstein a little bit
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more time, and see what happens from there. That's my guess.
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Obviously I can't prove that, but I think that's what
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was going on. Remember, nothing is ever as it seems.
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Who we're talking about. Jeffrey Epstein. All right, folks, we're
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gonna wrap up episode one right here, and in the
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next episode we're gonna pick up where we left off
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and finish this article out. All the information that goes
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with this episode can be found in the description box.
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What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna pick up where
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we left off with the Wall Street Journal article authored
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by Kadija Saftar and Caitlin Ostroth. Brunell was arrested twenty
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twenty in France, where French prosecutors were investigating him on
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allegations of rape and supplying girls to Epstein. He died
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in jail in twenty twenty two. Maxwell was found guilty
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in twenty twenty one and is serving a twenty year sentence.
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So the people out there that want to play some
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antics and want to play word games about Jeffrey Epstein
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being a human trafficker are starting from a place of
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intellectual dishonesty. Now, it's a fact that he was never convicted,
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but what does that even mean. That means he's innocent
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or does that mean that the government didn't have the
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willpower to go after him because we know the evidence
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was there, so it comes down to willpower. Then you
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have to ask yourself why, what motivates a decision such
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as that that spans over multiple administrations, And for me,
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there's only one reason, only one answer, and that is
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that Jeffrey Epstein was too valuable of an asset for
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them to burn at the time. That's all it makes sense.
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Prosecutors in Paris on Saturday said that they would re
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examine the case of Brunel and set up a special
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team to analyze evidence that could implicate French nationals in
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the Epstein case. Look, whoever was involved, wherever they were,
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they need to be tracked down. And anybody that was
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engaging in abusing girls, especially with Jeffrey Epstein, needs to
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be held to account. And anybody who facilitated that or
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helped that along the way, they should be outed as well.
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And if they did anything criminal, financially or otherwise, hang
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them by their toes too. This was another instance of
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Epstein attempting to engage Miss Rumler on a matter about
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which she had no knowledge, and she appropriately directed him
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to his legal counsel, said Jennifer Connolly, a spokeswoman for Rumler.
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She declined to specify which legal council. Rumler has said
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she never represented Epstein and regretted her association with him. No,
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she regretted being outed. Did you regret the soup? Did
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you regret the handbags? Did you regret god knows what else?
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It's always the same story, right, Oh, I'm so sorry
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that I was hanging out with so and so. No,
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you're not sorry. You're sorry you got caught. The shit's laughable.
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It's like somebody like Brian Kolberger bro goes to jail
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and all of a sudden he finds God. Okay, great,
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Maybe you should have found God before you murdered four people,
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but it's all good, right. He regrets it. As the
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extent of a relationship with Epstein became clear in the
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recent files, Rumbler said last week that she would resign
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from Goldman Sachs, where she is general counsel. In June.
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Poe said he didn't talk with Rumbler or Epstein about
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Brunel on May fourth, twenty sixteen, or at any other time.
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He said he had a schedule call that day with
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Rumler to discuss his work on a legal motion to
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quash a subpoena directed at Epstein. My engagement by Jeffrey
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Epstein was limited, Post said, adding that he terminated work
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for Epstein in August of twenty sixteen. They all want
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to run away. They all have the marathon shoes on,
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don't they. I had no idea. What are you talking about?
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Wasn't me? I never was at Jeffrey Epstein's house. And
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then we find out you were, and then it just
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becomes a different excuse and the goalposts get moved again.
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Long before his role in the Epstein case came to light,
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Brunell already had a sort of reputation in the fashion world.
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In nineteen eighty eight, CBS sixty Minutes aired an investigation
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into modeling agencies featuring women who said they were drug
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by Brunel and expected to have sex with his male
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friends in order to get modeling work. I guess they
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were all lying to just a bunch of women who
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were manipulating guys like Jean Luke Brunel. The real victim
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here is Jean Luke Brunel and Jeffrey Epstein. Bro you know,
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that's literally the narrative that we're getting from some people.
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One woman on camera said that Brunell had drugged and
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raped her. No criminal charges wherever filed, and Brunell, who
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denied the allegations, continued to operate freely cycling through agencies.
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By the two thousands, Brunell and Epstein had forged a
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deep relationship. Flight logs show that Brunell was a frequent
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passenger on Epstein's private jet starting around two thousand and
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that's when the pipeline opened up. And I really encourage
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all of you to take a look at that Maritza
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Vasquez deposition. It is very telling and she gives you
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a bird's eye view of what MC squared was up
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to when it comes to bringing girls in and sending
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them into the belly of the beast. In two thousand
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and five, Epstein wired up to one million dollars to
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Brunell to help him launch MC squared Model Management, which
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opened offices in New York and Miami later that year.
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The agency's name appeared to be an inside joke, with
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people believing that in the equation E equals MC squared,
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the E stood for Epstein. Well, I don't doubt that
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for a minute this was Epstein's company. We all know
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that Brunel was the middleman. He was the face. Right,
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Oh well, I'm the modeling scout. But the real money,
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the power was coming from Epstein behind the scenes. Epstein
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used the agency as a way to procure women and
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as a payroll vehicle, securing work visas for young women. Yeah,
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a lot of immigration fraud. Let's talk about that. All
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these people out here with their contrarian views about human trafficking,
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please explain all of the immigration fraud. Why we're work
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visas being obtained. Why were girls being brought to America
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being told they were going to be models and never
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getting a modeling gig. Please explain all of it. Now
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what they'll say is, oh, well we don't believe the girls,
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so again they're coming from I'm a place of intellectual dishonesty,
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and I have no desire to even conversate with people
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like that. Now, look, there is always a place for
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contrarian views, and people should always question what's going on.
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Whatever the narrative is, it should be questioned. But I
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think there is such an overwhelming amount of evidence here
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that it makes people just look stupid. Honestly, it makes
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you look stupid. Now, I'm not saying that people shouldn't
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question some of the more outlandish commentary. I mean we should.
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I've told you from the very beginning that there's going
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to be disinformation that they're going to try and obfuscate.
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They're going to try and confuse us, and one of
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the best ways to do that is to dump false
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information so that people look at it and they say,
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all of this is bunk. Just take a look at
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this allegation here. So since this allegation's outlandish, they all
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must be. And that's why I told you not to
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fall for the side quest. Don't fall for all the
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slacious bullshit. That's what they want on target, and the
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target is the system that allowed this to occur. A
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pair of emails from July two thousand and six captures
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the arrangement. On July thirteenth, Epstein wrote to Brunell at
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his MC squared address, instructing him to put a woman
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that were discussing on your payroll, specifying a fifty thousand
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dollars annual salary. Brunell asked whether Epstein wanted the woman
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to start scouting models. Epstein replied the next day, starts
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salary as soon as possible. Epstein added that he would
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be em Paris the following week and could see her.
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Then well, well, well what do you know. I'm sure
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it was just about modeling, right, Nothing to see here.
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Jeffrey Epstein as buddy Jean lu Brunel, they were just,
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you know, great patrons, and they were really worried about
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people's lives, and they wanted people to achieve greatness, so
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they decided to get involved. When Epstein was jailed in
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Florida in two thousand and eight after pleading guilty to
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procuring a minor for prostitution, Brunel visited Epstein almost seventy times,
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according to Jel logs. But yeah, Jean lu Brunell, nothing
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to do with this. Why should we pursue Jean lu Brunell,
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no evidence. It's unreal. The whole entire thing is so
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unreal that it makes me just so agitated and mad,
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even after all these years of knowing that the fix
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has been in. In fact, the longer this goes on,
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the more agitated I get. After his Florida arrest in
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two thousand and six, Epstein shifted his focus to women
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in their late teens and twenties from Europe and Russia,
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whom he could lure to the US and abuse since
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they were dependent on him for visas, housing, and finances.
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He also pressured these women to share with them details
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about their interactions with other men. Well well, well another
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receipt is it. That's exactly what he was doing. And
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after he got nailed in America, his handlers told him, look,
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you gotta focus elsewhere. Now. You can still get up
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to what you want to get up to, but you
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got to leave the high school age girls alone, at
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least not get them from the high schools. So Epstein
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flip the script and the same exact template that they
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used sharing Iran contra to move drugs, to move guns,
27:23
to move money, they just started using to move girls
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from Eastern Europe. And of course these are the girls
27:29
that I have dubbed the girls with no names. By
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twenty twelve, Brunell was in frequent communication with Epstein. On
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June seventh of that year, Joshua Fink, the son of
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Black Rock CEO Larry Fink, email Brunell about an MC
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two invoice, saying he had received a bill and wanted
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to clarify a point or two about their agreement. Brunell
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told Fink he would suspend the billing. Oh, isn't that nice?
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So what did you purchase from mc squared the son
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of Blackrock? Did you buy models for a modeling shoot?
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Did you have models for I don't know, a video?
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What sort of business were you doing with mc squared
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and why were you doing it? Probably a good question. Yeah,
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the invoice was related to a model whom Fink was
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dating that had a work visa through the agency, A
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traffic girl that was brought in. That's what that means
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in my opinion. When Brunel forwarded the email chain to Epstein,
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the reply was talk to me first please. When the
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woman forwarded the same email that day, Epstein replied, this
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for a past, not future. Epstein was well aware of
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the relationship. The woman had forwarded him several chat logs
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with Fink, which captured the couple clashing over how serious
28:50
a relationship was and whether marriage was on the table.
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Jeffrey Epstein, the matchmaker, huh, a real life, live action
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version of Fiddler on the Roof? Isn't that nice? And
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with your visa? I have no idea what it is
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I can do beyond pay your agency to supplement your
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income and theirs because you are not getting work as
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a model. Fink wrote in reply to her complaints that
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he wasn't doing enough to help her because she was
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never brought there to be a model. She was brought
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there to be you know. I hate to say it
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served up to somebody, and I guess that's somebody was
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mister Fink. Fink told the journal that he met the
29:29
woman at a friend's dinner party and started a romantic
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relationship that lasted roughly a year. I had no relationship
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with Epstein or Brunel, he said. I am totally shocked
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that she was forwarding electronic correspondence to Epstein. Oh, I'm
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sure you're shocked, you dumb idiot. I had no relationship
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with Brunell and Epstein except for getting girls from them.
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What an absolute clown. He said that he was helping
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the woman settle her debts with a modeling agency and
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loaned her money to pay off Brunel. She wasn't working
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or getting enough jobs, and so she had suggested at
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one point, hey, could you help me settle these debts,
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he said, And so that was the correspondence. It was
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a personal relationship, and personal things happen. He added, Well, yeah,
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there's no doubt that in personal relationships things go south,
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but not every personal relationship has its genesis at the
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MC squared at office kind of an important part of
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the story now. The woman described herself to the journal
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as trapped in a web of abuse controlled by Epstein
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and Brunel. She said that she had been a successful
30:39
model abroad with a top agency, but after signing with
30:42
MC squared and getting a work visa through the agency,
30:46
her work dried up. She said Brunel charged fees without
30:49
securing castings, and that Epstein abused her throughout. So you
30:54
can choose not to believe her if that's what you
30:57
want to do, and I'm sure there's going to be
30:58
people that take that up, but not me. I believe her,
31:04
and that's because I just know too much about what
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they were doing in Eastern Europe, And when you read
31:09
the depositions and you listen to the people tell the
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stories who were there, I'm confident in saying that Jeffrey
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Epstein and Jean Luke Brunell one hundred percent were trafficking
31:20
women between each other. And that's just the beginning, Okay,
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That's what I think we can prove. And I think
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that it is undeniable that Jeffrey Epstein and Jean lu
31:31
Brunell were trafficking women between the two of them and
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trading them like people trade baseball cards. The woman said
31:42
that she had met Fink on her own, independent of
31:44
Epstein and Brunel, and saw the relationship, which she said
31:48
was consensual, as a possible escape, but Epstein wanted the
31:52
relationship with Fink to end to keep her under his control.
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The woman said when Fink proposed meeting her in Paris
31:59
to resolve their issues and discussed marriage in late twenty twelve,
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Epstein blocked it and the relationship ended, According to the
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woman and messages she showed the journal, boy, this really
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sets a bomb off in the camp of the people
32:12
who say that Epstein wasn't trafficking girls. Huh my prediction.
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They'll move the goalposts. Oh well, he wasn't trafficking underage
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girls until the story comes out to confirm that. Brad Edwards,
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a lawyer who has represented more than two hundred Epstein victims,
32:30
including the woman, said Epstein's wealth in power allowed him
32:34
to infiltrate industries, perhaps more pervasively the modeling industry. He
32:38
found Jean Luke, a like minded predator with whom he
32:42
could conspire on a daily basis to recruit and control
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the lives of countless young women, including Jane Doe. Brunell
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and Epstein were so close in twenty twelve that a
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version of Epstein's trust from that year listed brune as
32:58
a beneficiary for as much as five million, according to
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a copy made public in the recent Justice Department files.
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Around that time, Brunell was fretting over a deposition of
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Maritza Vasquez, who I've talked about plenty of times and
33:14
shared the whole deposition with you folks as well. MC
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two's former financial controller and bookkeeper. Vasquez had given a
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swarren statement in twenty ten in a civil lawsuit filed
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by one of Epstein's victims. Vasquez described how models were
33:31
placed in Epstein controlled departments and how visas were arranged
33:35
for underage girls, and that apartment building was the one
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over on East sixty six. That's where they stashed all
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these girls from all these countries. Earlier, Brunell had accused
33:48
Vasquez of embezzling company funds from two thousand and four
33:51
to two thousand and six. She pleaded guilty to a
33:54
criminal charge in two thousand and seven and agreed to
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pay restitution of ninety eight thousand dollars. Basquez couldn't be
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reached for comment. On October fourth, twenty twelve, Brunell messaged Epstein,
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her lawyer, said she will take the fifth on everything.
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What to do? He wrote. Epstein's reply, Ask every question
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you can think of? Did she have sex with the girls?
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Make her sit and take the fifth to every question
34:20
for hours? No big deal, right, Just get behind the
34:24
scenes and let's come up with a plan. Let's obstruct
34:29
another crime. By the way. Brunell and Epstein also relied
34:33
on a common recruiter, Daniel Sayid, two fine girls and
34:36
women in other countries. The file show Siod, a European
34:41
modeling scout, exchanged dozens of emails with Brunel and Epstein.
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In one exchange from July twenty fourteen, Sayad informed Epstein
34:50
that he had two girls from Sweden, a Slovakian, two
34:53
French and redacted the Russian with whom you spoke. Epstein
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said that he he would reimburse Sayid for his expenses
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and said please send me the details of the girls' names. Etc.
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Si compared his recruiting efforts to fishing. In this busyness,
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I feel like fishermen. Sometimes I cash quick, sometimes no fish.
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He ended the message with the taally of his expenses
35:19
for the trip twenty seven hundred euros. Siodd's attorney in
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France didn't immediately respond to a request for comment, and
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a video posted on x and recently broadcast on French TV,
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Siodd said he worked professionally to introduce models to Epstein.
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With time we have learned that he committed atrocities. He said,
35:39
oh yeah, he had no idea. Huh, no idea what
35:41
you were up to? Just another guy who had no clue.
35:45
In December twenty fourteen, Virginia Roberts, one of Epstein's most
35:49
prominent victims, filed a motion to join a lawsuit that
35:52
was challenging Epstein's non prosecution agreement related to his earlier
35:57
arrest in Florida. In one of the exhibits, she alleged
36:00
that Brunell traffick girls as young as twelve to his friends,
36:04
including Epstein. The allegations placed Brunel in public crosshairs alongside Epstein.
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As a result, the relationship between Brunel and Epstein appeared
36:15
to fray. In January twenty fifteen, Brunell and mc squared
36:20
sued Epstein in a Florida court, claiming that the agency
36:24
had gone from being worth millions to almost worthless because
36:27
of the notoriety surrounding Epstein's crimes. The lawsuit alleged Brunell
36:32
had lost potentially ten million dollars in profits, that photographers
36:36
and scouts had cut ties with EMC squared, and that
36:39
Brunel could no longer recruit new models because families refused
36:43
to entrust her daughters to a man publicly linked to Epstein. Meanwhile,
36:48
Brunel was just as much of a monster, and I
36:54
suspect that this lawsuit was just another cover, just like
36:58
the lawsuit with Les Wexner. I feel the same way. Here,
37:01
kind of an escape patch right. The following month, to tone,
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Brunell's lawyer called Edwards, the victim's attorney, saying he was
37:10
having trouble serving Epstein with the lawsuit and raised the
37:13
possibility of that Brunell possessed photographic evidence against Epstein. Well,
37:18
we know Brunell had the goods, and the more I
37:21
look at it, the more I think about it, the
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less convinced. I am that Brunell killed himself. Edwards, unsure
37:30
whether this represented a genuine break between the two men,
37:33
or employed by Epstein, told the journal he alerted his
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law partner, Stan Pottinger. Pottinger died in twenty twenty four.
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The rift between Epstein and Brunell was temporary, and that's
37:45
why I think it was a ruse. The recently released
37:51
Justice Department files show by April twenty fifteen, Brunell suggested
37:55
a friend to mediate the dispute, and later that month
37:59
Epstein asked to meet Brunell. I have some ideas that
38:02
I think you will like, Epstein wrote on April fourteenth.
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Still over the following year, Pottinger, along with Boys and Edwards,
38:10
corresponded with federal prosecutors in New York and to tone
38:14
to get Brunell to cooperate. By twenty sixteen, Brunell had
38:18
agreed to turn himself in and was naming names. Wow,
38:23
just wow, and it just died on the vine. They
38:26
had everything they needed right here and they refused to
38:29
do it. But sure you're crazy for thinking the fix
38:32
was in The prosecutor notes from February twenty ninth, twenty sixteen,
38:40
revealed that the victims' lawyers briefed the prosecutors. To Tone
38:44
says his client has photographic evidence. According to the notes,
38:48
Brunell doesn't want to implicate himself. On May third, Pottinger
38:52
wrote in an email to a prosecutor, yesterday, I spoke
38:56
to Daniel Sayed, whom Jean Luke Brunell describes as a
38:59
scout or recruiter of girls and or women for Jeffrey Epstein.
39:03
So he's another co conspirator, right, so he needs to
39:06
be investigated and indicted if the evidence is there. To
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Tone said that Epstein eventually called him to discuss Brunell's
39:13
suit and tried to build a rapport, bonding over their
39:16
shared Brooklyn roots. He's a real charmer. To Tone recalled.
39:20
He said that Brunell eventually settled the suit with Epstein
39:23
and said the terms were confidential. After the effort to
39:27
get Brunel to testify failed, Epstein continued luring victims. When
39:32
Epstein was found dead in a jail cell in twenty nineteen,
39:35
Brunell went into hiding. French authorities launched an investigation shortly
39:40
after searching his home and offices. Nothing to see here though,
39:44
No human trafficking. Everything's just a big made up lie.
39:47
It's a big moral panic. In December of twenty twenty,
39:53
French police intercepted Brunel at a Paris air report as
39:56
he attempted to board a flight to Senegal. He was
40:01
taken into custody in charge with sex crimes. In February
40:04
of twenty twenty two, he was found hanged in his
40:06
prison cell. That sounds familiar. Huh. We've heard that story before,
40:10
haven't we. And look, I'm not buying it. I don't
40:14
buy that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, and at this point
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I don't buy that Jean Luke Brunel killed himself either.
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But like usual, we'll continue to swim through that muck
40:23
searching for some clarity. All the information that goes with
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