# 145 - Kristin & Jocelyn
Today I talk to my friends Kristin Macdermott, who is a resilience therapist and Jocelyn Baker, who is a ghost writer. We talk about bad influences, talking to our kids about drugs, teens becoming more distant, chores, parenting during a pandemic, and much more!
You can get Kristin & Jocelyn’s “Resilience Based Parenting” Course and apply for a scholarship at http://www.macdermottmethod.com/wotp
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