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Cabal Factions are Battling for World Control, and ISRAEL IS KEY — Mel K Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:27
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Houlhouse. We're continuing to witness the systematic destruction of not just America and our border, but absolute madness and and war being waged in The Middle East and Ukraine. And the whole world has it has become the norm these days. It just feels like it's gone crazy.
• 0:49
  And I'm, as part of my mission with Man in America, consistently trying to make sense of what's going on. And, like, you don't see me sitting here and arguing about the two party system and the Democrats, the Republicans right. I think they're all pretty much captured. In a lot of ways, I'm looking at the world in the same way. And when I see these nation states battling it out, whether it's Russia versus Ukraine, or it's what's happening in The Middle East, or, you know, even The US versus Iraq at different stages in the past few decades, I'm trying to look at this and think, okay, what's really going on here?
• 1:21
  Because as you've heard me talk about before, I think that there are battles that are happening at very, very high levels that there are different factions within what we think of as the cabal that are also fighting for control over what they want to be the new world order or the the new one world government. And so joining us today is someone that I think has an absolute incredible understanding of not just geopolitics, but also the geopolitics of the cabal and the different factions and the fighting amongst themselves for control. And it's really important for us to understand what's happening at those levels because as we fight for freedom here in America, we have to realize that we're not fighting just for freedom in America. We're fighting to keep the world from safe from the jaws of this dragon that want to turn it into a world with no nation states and a world with a centralized government that dictates everything, our health decisions, our monetary decisions, our way of life, and it's really a loss of all freedoms. And so we have to understand this war and really commit to continuing to do our best to fight against this dark satanic elite that I actually think is losing.
• 2:33
  And so we'll be diving into a lot of that and more in this interview with my good friend Mel Kay. Mel, it is so wonderful to have you back on the show. And it's also wonderful seeing you, recently down in Miami for the Reawaken tour. So just thanks for being here.
• 2:51
  Mel K: Wow. Thanks for having me. You know, you and I have been on this journey, and we have certainly evolved along the way in our thinking and what we do in our shows. So it's always great to see you to kind of touch base and say, where are you? Where am I?
• 3:05
  Are we thinking the same thing? And often we do. So it's a pleasure. And I had a great time always seeing you in person. I'm sorry your wife didn't come, but I do look forward to seeing her again as well.
• 3:14
  You guys are both terrific.
• 3:15
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you. Thank you. We'll that happen. So, of course, there's a million things going on that we could talk about. But I want to I want to kind of come to you with this episode and say, please help me understand what's happening in The Middle East.
• 3:31
  Because I think it's something that you've you've covered a lot. I know you recently had a really good interview with I think it was Matt Aret about the history of The Holy Land, which will probably be very helpful to kind of draw on the knowledge from that. Because when I look at what's happening over there in Israel and you know, the West Bank and Gaza and especially in the past few weeks with what's developed over there, it's like, I find it to be so confusing. And maybe it's intentionally like that because, of course, I don't want to see innocent Israelis killed. I don't want to see innocent Palestinians killed.
• 4:05
  But, you know, I know that there's a terrorist, Hamas is a terrorist organization, but I also know that Israel, similar to The United States, is also a significant tool of the cabal. I mean, if you look at their LGBTQ agenda, look at that the Mossad, the rule of Mossad, look at, you know, the the vaccines pushed onto their own population, I think that their their government is far from innocent. But then if you trace back and get into the Balfour Declaration and the Rothschilds, and I just have such a hard time understanding it.
• 4:38
  Mel K: Yeah. I mean, I think that there's different factors right now. But what people should understand also is that the, the back and forth between that piece of land where Israel is, which I hope people understand is the size of New Jersey. So when we talk about Israel because it's been so exaggerated over time and people it really is a very small country. The the piece that is Gaza, the Palestinian territory, is like a town in New Jersey.
• 5:06
  I mean, we have to understand this is a very small piece of land. And so everything that's going on there is very easy to track and trace and surveil with the technology that we have now, of course, the technology Mossad has, but that everyone has, including NATO, including China and Russia and everywhere. Also, that piece of land is very important in terms of, trade route and where it where it is in the Mediterranean where it is. A lot of states border Israel. Egypt and Lebanon and many other countries do come right up to the border there.
• 5:43
  So, we have to remember that it's a strategic piece of land. Now, it's hard to remove the whole Jewish and Israel, and that was by design. When you talk about the Balfour Declaration and all of that, a lot of people aren't aware that a lot of very, influential Jewish people from around the world did. It's in the New York Times. I believe you can still find it if you look in the archives.
• 6:06
  Hannah Arendt, who, you know, is somebody that really inspires and, has informed me with my decades of reading her books over and over. But other people involved were Einstein and Freud and many prominent Jews around the world had written a letter, to Ben Gurion and other people that were there involved at that time in the forties, asking that it not be a theocracy, that it not be a Jewish state. They felt that if they made Israel a Jewish state, that it would forever be a a place of war because going back biblically, that that would be a target. So what those people were were proposing basically was that it'd be a place for displaced people around the world rather than a Jewish state. That was obviously rejected, it went forward.
• 6:50
  It was very important, obviously, to the Rothschilds that that be, a Jewish place. But they were recruiting Jews way before, even before the first world war, to go to that land. So, even though we look at that period of time, it goes back way farther, and it has a lot more to do with, of course, the biblical and the holy stuff, which is biblical and holy to all the Abrahamic religions, which would be Muslim, Christian, and Jewish, as we know. And they they did live in peace there for many, many decades prior. So we do have to remember that.
• 7:27
  And another thing that people should also remember about that area and that land is that before Israel did get established, it was basically a barren desert. You can go look at pictures of what Israel looked like, in the twenties and thirties. What did happen when when we did come in after the Balfour Declaration was a lot of kibbutz were built, a lot of technology, a lot of, very scholarly people, engineers, obviously the military, but they really built that land as kind of an experiment in turning desert, barren desert land, into a fruitful and prosperous, not only nation, but also agriculturally. It was a feat. So, a lot of effort and energy and money went into a lot of different things there, including technology and agriculture.
• 8:24
  So, a lot has gone on in that space. What I believe, though, nowand this is why I've kind of stepped back and not really opined on this muchis that this has nothing to do with Gaza and Israel or the Palestinian state or the Israeli state. And don't forget, there have been over 10 proposals for a two state solution. The closest it got to was, when Isaac Rabin met with, Yasser Arafat, and an Israeli killed Rabin, to make sure that that did not happen. That is what we're told.
• 8:58
  Again, nothing coming out now, but nothing coming out ever about that piece of land should be taken as salute truth. There's a lot hidden in in that realm as well. But what I believe now, though, and this is what's being left out, I think, of the story, and you know a lot more about China than I do, is that in the last several months, Ji had met with both Netanyahu and Abbas, in China. And, what we do also need to remember is that while this was going down and is going down in Israel, China has met with Russia and 130 other nations that are involved in the Belt and Road Initiative. A lot of people know, you've talked about it many times, the Belt and Road Initiative is the kind of plan for China to control all of the supply chain worldwide by building, going into countries, making deals with them, helping them in a lot of ways, though also basically taking over their nation in a lot of ways and their resources as well.
• 10:02
  Building ports, factories, mining, all of that. It's been all over Africa, all over the world, basically South America. A lot of people know they've really, really gone into the Darien Gap and the islands as well. But way mark of the Belt and Road Initiative and also solidifying Russia and China's huge gains so far in their own words. I read both of their papers reporting on this as well as people that are reporting against it.
• 10:32
  The American press and the press largely and the people that are promoted and have the giant channels on Twitter, And, you know, they're not necessarily journalists, but they certainly are influencing the narrative. And, certainly, all of the controlled, globalist controlled media have been totally not talking about this. Well, what I did learn, if you look at the map of the Belt and Road Initiative grand plan, that area in Israel, that port right there is very important to this whole selves at the very top for the control of this new technocratic, totalitarian, globalist, digitally controlled track and trace surveillance society, from the top down. So I do believe that there are two factions fighting for that may may be at the Davos, NATO, US, UK faction, and then China. And then we all forget that there is a Arab, Muslim faction too known as the Muslim Brotherhood that is very high up in this same food chain as we call I call the Davos crew, but it's not the Davos crew.
• 11:46
  It is a group of, what I believe, oligarch billionaires that are live as if they're Pan Am from, Hunger Games, and they don't have allegiance to any nation. They don't have allegiance to any flag or religion or anything else. They are, to me, I call them the Fourth Reich. Their plans are very similar if you look up the third Reich plans and understand that they got thwarted very early on. That was not the plan.
• 12:08
  The plan was to take over the world from Germany from Germany, a lot of the same people. But when I look at this, I look at this as another step in the, agenda 2047 sustainable development goals, which is sustainable for the oligarch billionaire elite and yet track and trace surveillance and a, digital gulag type existence for the rest of us and, totally controlled. So for me, I think that piece of land, if you look at it on the map and you look at what Xi has been doing and his meetings with them, and then you think about Ukraine what's going on there, and who's rebuilding Ukraine after we've been told. For $600,000,000,000, you know, they say, would be now we are learning not just BlackRock and, Chase, but the CCP is the main, person that is or the main entity that is talking about rebuilding Ukraine. Well, if people don't think that they're rebuilding Ukraine to include it in the Belt and Road Initiative and to build the ports there and control the ports there as they've done all over the world, they don't really understand China's Belt and Road Initiative.
• 13:12
  And the Belt and Road Initiative is also, I believe, their military plan. They are not going to fight a kinetic war. Rather, they're going to control, the entire supply chain for everything, including the military. So for me, I think that we're being largely distracted by people that do not care how many people die in the Palestinian territory or in Israel or in Ukraine or in Russia or in America. I believe that this is still part of the grand agenda 02/1930, and that at the very top, they're fighting for who is going to control that.
• 13:45
  And as I keep saying, people reiterate a lot. And, you know, I've changed a lot from the beginning. I used to believe that people at Intel that I found do not, and what they were saying wasn't true. I've really focused on this, Agenda 21 and Agenda 02/1930, and what they are and what they mean. And what they mean is global governance.
• 14:04
  It's on all their websites. So it's not a conspiracy theory if they're telling you. They want the end of nation states. So when Donald Trump says, they're not after me. They're after you.
• 14:14
  I'm in the way. I'd like to reframe that for the people of this planet, especially the American people, and say they're not after America. They're after the world, and America is in the way. And that is how important what is going on in this nation right now is and how so many people here, all these people that think that they're marching for Hamas or Antifa or Black Lives Matter, they are being used to continue this color revolution to the controlled demolition of America so that they can actually get agenda 02/1930 the way that they want it. And what people should understand is if America is taken out of it, the hell on earth without America standing is way worse than anything anyone could imagine.
• 14:54
  Because once they start fighting amongst themselves, and that would be the, the, Muslim contingency of the, you know, billionaire oligarch elite, the Chinese, and then the Davos crew. Fighting amongst themselves is something we never even want to contemplate happening. So I think the American people really need to realize that we're all equally in trouble and that, our country is captured and no one is safe. Whatever your your political thing you think you're fighting for and what marching for and dividing for, and you hate Trump and you hate those people and you want the white supremacists or the in the gulag, you are being played because the sooner America falls, the sooner these people get to chop up the world and, and go forward with a a total dystopian planet that they control. That's my opinion.
• 15:46
  Seth Holehouse: There's a lot to unpack there. But I remember there was an interview, I think it was with Trevor Loudon and Joshua Philip over the Epoch Times, where Trevor had said that if America falls, we will enter into a thousand years of darkness. And he was really just saying that look, America is the one country that not only stands in the way of a global communist system, but it also serves as the only example of what a constitutional republic, right? A country where the constitution is what has created safety and protection from tyranny. And if if that example diminishes and is destroyed, then basically all hell will break loose.
• 16:26
  And so what your analysis is very interesting, and it aligns with a lot of the core beliefs that I have about what's happening in the world as well. But it really it really rounds out that understanding because I I think that a lot of people, especially the Americans I've been keeping track on you, we talk to these people at the events, you see their comments. It's almost as if we've been trained to look at everything in a very binary way. There's black and white, there's good and evil, and that it's it's, you know, we the people versus the cabal. And there's one evil cabal that everyone's working for against us.
• 16:58
  But I think it's far more complex than that. And whenever I see these events happening, whether it's a war in Ukraine, or what's happening in The Middle East, I'm instantly trying to go to the place of looking at the the very, very far removed chess game. You know, that that million foot view of the chess game. And I I had oftentimes looked at it as there's two significant factions fighting, right, the the European bankers and the the globalist organizations and then the, the CCP, Russia, the BRICS, alignment, right? But you mentioned the Muslim Brotherhood, which, you know, if you look at the maps of the Arab control, especially in the in the region surrounding Israel, you can see, wow, actually the Arab nations are significant.
• 17:42
  If you get into the house of Saudi, and I mean, it's trillions and trillions and trillions. I mean, they rival almost the Rothschilds in their overall wealth and control. And so am I correct in understanding this, basically, when you look at Israel or you look at Ukraine, while everyone's kind of distracted with the country versus country, analysis and the mainstream media is continually kind of driving people into that thinking that it's very it's Israel and Palestine. It's, you know, The US versus this. It's Russia versus Ukraine, that you're seeing it as these are proxy wars for these massive global syndicates of which is a couple of them that are fighting for control of the New World Order.
• 18:30
  They're fighting it. So it's not just that there's one central organization funded by the Rothschilds as an example, that controls everything and everything's kind of driving us into their New World Order, but actually that there are multiple crime syndicates that are all fighting because they want to be the ones that control the Agenda 2,030 plan. Is that is that correct?
• 18:53
  Mel K: Yeah, that's what I believe. That is what I believe. And I and, you know, and it is very confusing because our as you've reported on many times, as have I, our our education system, I just read yesterday, so despairing. Only 13% of eighth graders proficient in US history. I mean, and I remember from very young, it was very important.
• 19:15
  I even think all the way back to like kindergarten, we were being told, you know, we were learning history to some extent and pride in America and all of that. And what you said before early in this, before I jump forward, because I'm I'm writing books, I've done a lot of reading of, the Federalist Papers and what was going on in the seven like, 1770s, well before the war or the Constitution or any of that, all the Founders were looking at all different kinds of governments all the way back. When they meet, their lives were in danger. A lot of these men that signed the Declaration of Independence saw a very horrible, aftermath. They knew that they would if they signed it, but it was worth it to them.
• 19:57
  They all stood at they didn't get along, first of all. So, when we see all the shenanigans now with, our government and all this and that, and they think like, oh, you know, that back in 1776, they were all on the same page. They weren't at all. There was a lot of contention, a lot of disagreement, a lot of that. What they were aligned on, and I wish we would be now, is freedom and liberty and unalienable rights.
• 20:23
  That's what they all saw as bonding them together. How do we how do we make sure that there is never tyranny again, that we don't live under a monarchy, and it was the cause of freedom and liberty and God given rights that united them. They had disagreements on as many things as we do now.
• 20:43
  Todd Callender: Hey, folks. I've got a
• 20:44
  Seth Holehouse: quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver. Right?
• 20:58
  Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that?
• 21:16
  Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now, let's take a look at gold.
• 21:30
  So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with 4,000?
• 21:56
  Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich.
• 22:18
  It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around.
• 22:57
  It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than Doctor. Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies.
• 23:21
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• 23:48
  Mel K: What I did learn from that when you talk about the constitutional republic and all of that, when they were planning all of this, particularly Benjamin Franklin, who who should be much more looked into, his part in a lot of this because he was also spent significant time, obviously, in The UK, but in France, in in all over the, all over the East, and brought a lot of that back, was that their their hope was that they would create this constitutional republic that put freedom and liberty and God and, the rights, natural law. And then they would hope they hoped that they would export that to the rest of the world, which is what you were saying before was that America, the uniqueness and and Trevor Landon and I talked about it as well. The uniqueness of America is that, is that the people are the power and that the people are given that power by God, and are also united in the cause of freedom and liberty. Liberty meaning that you live your life without interference from the government, and the government has very specific, which has totally gotten corrupted, specific tasks or things that the government should do.
• 25:03
  But otherwise, man is born free and should be living free. And their hope was that after it was established in America, that then they would go around and help other countries establish that too. And what's sad is I feel like it was infiltrated almost immediately. You know, I say something that's controversial. I say a lot of times, maybe we believed that, and we've been led to believe, that we won the American Revolution.
• 25:29
  But I firmly believe that, the people that were aligned with the Crown, which are still the City Of London people and the people you're talking about, the International Banking Cartel I call them, they were still them. And they, they went back. They realized that, they had to retreat, but that they did not give up. And that then they infiltrated us in another way through our banking system and other ways to keep control of this nation and make sure that that, exportation of liberty, freedom, and natural law, natural rights, was not exported. And so a lot of what's going on now, I believe, has to do with still keeping that.
• 26:08
  I think Trump was a big threat for many reasons, but so are a lot of other people. Look at the the Pakistani guys in jail, Bolsonaro or Bond. They killed Abe. These people, they they need to keep control at least so when we're talking about that there's different factions, I believe that there are. But I believe that the one thing that they agree upon is that they need to get the idea that there are nation states at all out of out of the lexicon.
• 26:38
  So if you look at all of their sites, and this includes the IMF, BIS, and World Bank, which I believe at the top that represent the central banks in general. But, all the way to the top, people say the BIS is the original Rothschild Bank, but it's very opaque, and you can't tell. You can't tell a lot of the entities they control. Certainly, the city of London, they don't hide that. But I do believe that what you're saying is that a lot of these factions, they're equally, engaged in destroying America, First and foremost, this ideal that we've established here, this constitution and bill of rights.
• 27:14
  If they can infiltrate and tear that apart and make that something that's no longer kind of nineteen eighty four ish, no longer remembered. They erase the history what the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and this nation stands for. Then they have a lot easier track forward, and they'll deal with their internal struggles on who's gonna run everything. And I assure you the CCP believes that they will, for many, many reasons, and they've said it many times. And, but Russia's not okay with it.
• 27:45
  As much as they're playing together now, you know, they're not Russia and and China are very much aligned with the BRICS nations, but they're still gonna want a seat at the table. And that that big chunk that we're forgetting about the Muslim brotherhood, which was very embedded in Obama's White House and is back embedded in Biden's, administration, they are very, very powerful. That's why when they're saying, no. Don't don't worry. We're sending the 6,000,000,000 to Qatar.
• 28:11
  Yeah. We know because that's where the billionaire oligarchy of that world, is headquartered. You know? They just had a world economic forum meeting a few weeks ago in Dubai. So for anyone that doesn't think that that's a significant portion of the people, but I believe that they're all united in taking down America from within, and not firing a shot.
• 28:34
  They want us to destroy ourselves, and we're doing a really bang up job at it because too many people do not realize, a, the value of America because a lot of these kids, especially 30, were brainwashed into thinking that we were the problem. B, the truth is that we have been deceived since, I believe I believe the real coup isn't nothing to do with Donald Trump. I think it started when they killed JFK. And I I firmly believe that they turned this country into something that we, the people, do not understand, we're not informed of. You know, when you see that we have, what, 70 bases around the world, we're People are looking at the billions of dollars that we're giving Ukraine.
• 29:12
  We've been giving billions of dollars to nations all over the planet that should be reinvested in America and isn't and then is laundered around, God knows where, the countries we're giving aid to and the billions of dollars don't evolve. It's just like the IMF, you know, confessions. I know you had on John, the guy that wrote, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, Perkins. I believe that The US does a lot of the same stuff, especially through USAID. We know the CIA and NED has gone around the world fomenting, regime change.
• 29:47
  And, when people don't agree with the plan, they point a lot to the Project for a New American Century 2,000 document on the military takeover two years before nineeleven. Basically, they put out the Wolfowitz Kagan with NATO at the time. Rumsfeldt Cheney, that document, if you read that, and they say they need a Pearl Harbor to kick it in, it really is telling you what the war on terror really is about. And, you know, I do believe that the American people have to be very honest with, you know, Eisenhower was right. The military industrial complex in bed with the banking international banking cartel and our Wall Street has been a huge detriment to our nation in the eyes of the world.
• 30:31
  And, we right now are in a time in history where we are right back where our, the brave people that did fight for this country that have been disparaged and defamed because they lived at a different time with different rules and different understanding of humanity stood. And I I think we are at this precipice of between future and past right now, and the American people are going to be the ones who either rise to the occasion and and stop this, global governance train, or we won't. And I think 2024, is the year that if we do not get together before then, the, capture of the nation will be complete. And, if this Biden or whoever comes in, Michelle or whoever else, they will be signing on to the global governance. It's our common agenda, basically the Agenda 02/1930 global constitution.
• 31:32
  And we will be fully integrated into a global governance system where nation states no longer exist. And I want everyone watching this to understand, Please go to their own websites, weforum.org, IMF, World Bank, WHO, NATO, whatever you want, and put in global governance or agenda 02/1930. And you're going to read in the first few lines that this is a post nation state plan. And if you just look at it that way, I think the American people can at least, put it put aside the divisiveness that they play on us because I don't believe either party is real. I think that we they've been totally captured by the global public private partnership and, these multinational stakeholders and that they are working for the globalists.
• 32:20
  And so, basically, it's up to the people to realize that you might think you're on a different team, but right now, the team is either stand for America or let America fail. And we are in that we have to remember, we're a young nation, and we were an experiment. And these people who created this nation really had hoped that this experiment not only would work, but would transform planet into a cooperative, peaceful, entity that that God intended. And and we are really at a biblical time, but also at a historical crossroads. And, that's my thoughts.
• 32:54
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks, I have a quick message for you. Thank you so much for watching and listening to this interview. I have one small request. If you're enjoying what you're listening to, could you please share this interview with one person? Just one person.
• 33:07
  Because of censorship and shadow banning, it's so hard to get this content out to more people, and the only way we can really do it is when you help by sharing it. So if you like what you're listening to, hit pause, share it with one person. It helps so much. Thank you so much. I think that one thing that came into my mind a lot in hearing you talk was Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.
• 33:29
  And even that's a document. It's so easy. You can find the PDF for free online. I'll tell folks, again, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars. And actually, I'll put a link to the PDF in the description of the show because I think that if more people can read that, it explains very clearly, I think why America is what it is right now.
• 33:50
  Why are people more focused on watching their fantasy football league on their phone than what their kids are being taught in school. It all goes back to that plan. But you can see in that plan that America was central. And from what I understand, I think it was 1958 that, was when that document I think was first supposedly, allegedly, that document was first given to the Bilderberg. I think it was one of the earlier Bilderberg, or the first Bilderberg meeting, think is when it was supposedly distributed, right?
• 34:20
  And if you look at the timing of that, just as they're getting ready to head into the 60s, where we saw massive influence from Tavistock and the various communist institutes around the world, And that's where we saw everything changed in America was the 60s. And I think this is very important because where we're at right now in a country, think a lot of it ties into what happened in the 60s and 70s. And it was my parents generation. It was the earlier generations that they were the ones that were psyoped and the same people that nowadays are still, you know, they're fighting for the country now, but they might still be relishing. Oh gosh, remember when Led Zeppelin came out or remember, gosh, the doors and and it's like, that was you're just kind of reminiscing.
• 35:03
  And of course, it's good music from a lot of perspectives, and it's nice to have those memories. But you're it's like you're reminiscing the time when the entire nation was really, really infiltrated in Psyop and that imagine all the people, right? John Lennon coming out, he wasn't lying in what foundation was being laid. And I think that similar to how people, you know, I think that a lot of people in America that have woken up now realize that the two party system is a lie and in in the the getting drawn into the fight of the left versus right is part of the psychological operation to distract us, right? This goes back into Bernays, give them two choices, Coke or Pepsi.
• 35:44
  They're all controlled by the elites either way. But I also think that at the level of the nation state, that's also a distraction for people to be focused on Russia versus Ukraine, on Israel versus the Palestinians. Those are also, I think, just the next level up distractions because, you know, when I spoke to, you know, John Perkins as an example in that conversation, or even David Martin, you know, people I've talked to that I say, who's really what what's really happening in the world? Like, nations don't really exist. You have this corporatocracy.
• 36:14
  You have, you know, the nation state like we think of it doesn't exist actually. It's been dissolved so much that our world is run by the big banks, the multinational corporations, etc. And so I think that this is why this discussion is important because if more Americans could see what agenda 02/1930 actually looks like, it's like, it's not that we don't want we won't have America as we know it right now. America won't exist. Israel won't exist.
• 36:44
  South Africa won't exist. Canada won't exist. Like this is the plan. The plan is to completely dissolve nation states. And I think it's such an important point that you've made and if more people can understand that's the world that we're really being driven into, I think people would hopefully take more action.
• 37:08
  Mel K: Yeah. I'm glad you brought up that point about the sixties because that is when I believe it. I I say all the time in my speeches. But the the final, you know, capture, in my opinion, was the murder of JFK in front of all of us. It was not only the murder of a president who wanted to do a lot of things different and was not being allowed by the already corporate and banking controlled planet and country, but at the same time, it was a trauma inducing event, which they use.
• 37:38
  You're talking about silent, you know, that document from Bilderberg. I always say it wrong. Oh, No. Quiet wars. I I think it was quiet weapons for yeah.
• 37:49
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Mean, and JFK was, what, 1960
• 37:51
  Mel K: That's very important. Right. Hello. You know? But there's there's a because I don't know if you've talked to Kathy O'Brien and other people that were I've talked to a couple MKUltra survivors or people that were at least in that spy world at the time in the sixties.
• 38:09
  And, also, there's the document Mind Wars by the Satanist Colonel Aquino, who somehow ran our military's psychological operations program. Oh, yeah. And, both of these documents are very, very clear in what they're talking about, in my opinion, which is the, using people as weapons, using our brains. It's psychological warfare. Confusing people into being easily manipulated and led to, whatever way.
• 38:41
  And sometimes when you look at some of these documents and then you kind of see the murder of JFK and several incidents after that, in the aftermath of something so traumatic on a global scale, on a massive scale, a trauma event, the people, the populace, everyone saw it in our generation after nineeleven, becomes very suggestible, very malleable. They just want answers. And they're going to look at whoever's the authority at the time for those answers. And that's why I often bring up, and I'm not conspiracy theorying it, but I am saying, people, and it's on my website and my resource page too, is, that document by Project for a New American Century about basically militarily. It sounds like it's from, yeah, it sounds like it's it's down in the resource space.
• 39:32
  Sounds like it's from literally the, Darth Vader putting out there that Wolfowitz and all of them wrote. And when you look at it, you're gonna think, wow. They're basically saying we need another massive trauma event to encourage everyone to allow The United States to militarily infiltrate planet. I mean, basically, it's it's a road map for the war on terror well before nine eleven.
• 39:59
  Todd Callender: Alright, folks. I've got a
• 40:00
  Seth Holehouse: quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year? This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine.
• 40:29
  I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food. So there's really two things I would recommend.
• 40:54
  One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food. This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is.
• 41:16
  So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets, they're all about maximizing calories per dollar. They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etcetera.
• 41:46
  But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food. And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year. Again, depends on your budget, but I'll definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed, those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future.
• 42:14
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• 42:42
  Mel K: And in the first section of that document, it says that they would need some kind of Pearl Harbor event. And now looking back, we have a very different understanding of the Gulf Of Tonkin and the Pearl Harbor and all of this. And it's not a conspiracy thinking. It's just looking at history and what was written by the people that were defining history at the time and defining the future. Another piece of what you're saying that people should also really understand is that the Weather Underground, which was Bill Ayers, Bernardine Doran, actual domestic terrorists, teaming up with the actual Black Panthers and Saul Alinsky and Franklin Marshall Davis.
• 43:20
  They are the people who brought us Barack Obama. It was Bill Ayers who wrote his autobiographies. And very good good very good people that have written about this Jack Cassel particularly and Joel Gilbert really digging into Obama's past, which is very, very shrouded. And Cass Sunstein, his main propagandist, really went to have huge lengths to hide Barack Obama's history. But the truth is, he's put out quotes and everything, but him and Michelle ate regularly on Sunday nights, apparently, with Bernadine Dorn and Bill Ayers.
• 43:59
  A lot of what's happened to our Ivy League universities came out of the Weather Underground, too. You know, these are these are people that took over, you know, Columbia and University of Chicago and a lot of these places, and they were treated as something, and they were Solinski proteges, basically, about Solinski was, you know, he, wrote a book, Rules for Radicals, that is basically being used right now, again, and has been in almost every color revolution to take over nations and to collapse the government and to put communists and socialists in charge. So that particular time in the sixties, plus all the experiments that were going on at the time, they really do line up. And it does seem that they have a resurgence now. I think, they they got into the White House, finally.
• 44:51
  I believe you know, I firmly believe that both Butch's, Clinton, Obama, and Biden are all globalists, that they were all already, when when you know, we we didn't take it seriously, I guess, or not seriously enough when H. W. Bush went on the floor of the UN and said that he was welcoming the new world order, and it would be run by the United Nations. And, Henry Kissinger and Brzezinski and Rockefeller that created that that road map were all there looking over as George W. Bush announced to the world that they had, in their mind, won.
• 45:25
  And, I believe everything from then you know, it's Barack Obama who signed on in 2015 without telling the people of The United States Of America what it was about or what it meant to agenda 02/1930 and to the 17 Sustainable Development Goals in 2015. The UN and the World Economic Forum, they've always been in tandem, but they signed multiple, even all the way back to COFY ANON, agreements that they were working together the whole time. But, you know, they don't hide this stuff. We all know that, Clinton was the one with, you know, it's hard to say what really happened between the Bush Gore situation. I believe that that was some kind of agreement because, you know, it was Gore and Clinton that put in the COP conferences, you know, to kinda use climate change and population control as a weapon, in my opinion.
• 46:18
  And then, again, in the Bush Gore, all of that aftermath, people don't realize that a big thing that got implemented then was the idea that humans, we, just like with the Club of Rome and Limits to Growth with the pop conferences, with the elections after Gore v. Bush, that is when they got to the point where they said humans can't be trusted to, count the votes after elections, so we need computers. So if you really look at it all, you can see that, you know, the plan was plodding along, and Donald Trump really, really disrupted this plan. And whatever you think of him or don't think of him, he realized that these alliances first of all, NATO should not exist. I believe NATO is the one world government, military, and it should have been dismantled as, Reagan and Gorbachev and and all of them promised, but that is not what happened.
• 47:12
  And and I do not believe that it's a defensive force right now, and I'll tell you in a minute why I don't think that. But the plans really have come to fruition. And if you do go back and look at Colonel Aquino's mind wars, he was saying 2020. And remember, it used to be agenda 21. And things got thrown off track, and they had to move it.
• 47:35
  Well, just two weeks ago at the UN, they had a big gala event in the carcass that I just left known as New York City. This dystopian disaster that we saw, the controlled demolition of New York happened first. The UN had a big big event where, to everyone's horror, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton relaunched the Clinton Global Initiative, which they started with Jeffrey Epstein and Stephen Bing, both of whom are dead, and, brought back up the Clinton Global Initiative to help rebuild Ukraine. They announced that they were halfway to agenda 02/1930. They had a big laser show with drones in the sky above New York City, this place that they willfully and knowingly, and I believe, complicitly destroyed as a mark of some sort.
• 48:25
  And it looked very much like the Pan Am Hunger Games event. The IMF was there, the WHO was there, the UN, the World Economic Forum, Clinton Global Initiative, all celebrating the halfway mark to agenda 02/1930. And you have to remember, what did Trump do? He was trying to to he was getting into NATO, either pay your fair share or and or out. He was out of the World Health Organization, out of the dangerous, UNESCO that is running the world curriculum in tandem.
• 48:53
  The, Paris Climate Accords, out of that, out of all of this stuff. And I believe a lot of these other leaders that have been brought down also were, very aware. And that is where the confusion comes in, I think, with Putin and Xi and some of the other world leaders that are also against this. I think what's become clear is that they were against the people that were controlling it, controlling it, but they also saw the opportunity of full track trace surveillance and control of humanity and behavior and birth rate and all of that. They have the technology.
• 49:28
  It's already built. And that's the other side of this that people have to understand about Agenda 02/1930 is that when Noah Harari says humans are hackable, all you have to do is go look at some of the DARPA documents or the NATO, Innovation Hub cognitive warfare documents or China's documents, or Russia's pertaining to cognitive warfare and digital tracing identity and digital monitoring, it's already built. You know? Now it's who's gonna control it. So all of this stuff lines to it's really humanity, you know, and people that believe in God and free will and all of that against people that believe that we don't deserve that and that there is no God and that, you know, they're kind of the pattern I mean, they're the crickets to the ants, like in the movie Ants.
• 50:22
  And I really do believe that that's where we are and that a lot of it is the cognitive warfare, the psychological warfare. And it's really on a huge scale. There is a, people should look it up also, a NATO document about cognitive warfare and a NATO Canada, which has completely captured Canada and Australia, a NATO, Canada presentation called The War for Your Brain, where they talk about using individual human brains as weapons against other humans. And they talk about all the technology that they have already. And, basically, what they're talking about is not this isn't a military takeover.
• 50:58
  It's a society takeover. And they talk about manipulating the human brain. Either they can do it individually or in groups to kind of it sounds like when you read the technology, and this is also coming out of DARPA and other places. China obviously has this technology. It's they've had it for a long time.
• 51:16
  It started a lot of experimentation started during the Holocaust in the camps and other places with this. And it's explicit that the new map, the new war front are the individual brains of humans. And, again, people have to really understand that you are being very manipulated on every level. And that's another place I think humanity and people where they can stand up for the nation states in terms of freedom and liberty and unalienable rights and governing ourselves, they can also stand up to the idea that your brain is yours, given to you by God, and that, the government or the military industrial complex nor the agenda 2030, global public private partnership should be able to access your brain from all different angles and manipulate you because in their own documents, it says it's not about, really controlling your brain. It's about completely changing the way you think by many different tactics, including social media, including frequency, including, color revolution tactics, including financial hardship, famine.
• 52:25
  I mean, if you read some of especially that one NATO document, which is speaking as if it's telling all the other NATO nations, including The US, this is what you're gonna do. That's why I'm saying something is wrong with NATO, and they have an agenda 02/1930. You know who else has agenda 02/1930 document? The Vatican. You know who else does?
• 52:47
  Bank of international settlements. So what I'm saying is, yes, on on the micro scale, we are all fighting for our nations, America being the one standing in the way. But on on, you know, on the bigger, bigger picture scale, eventually, they're gonna fight each other, and we don't want it to ever get there.
• 53:06
  Seth Holehouse: So there's gosh. There's always a lot to unpack with these things, but I I wanna step into a particular narrative or understanding that that I've reached recently. So three of my actually favorite guests, you know, are, you know, recent over the past couple of months between David Martin, Martin Armstrong, and, pardon me, Cliff High, right? So, these are all three people that I think are in very different spheres of society. I I placed them all at that super genius level in terms of their understanding of how the world works, right?
• 53:37
  But they had their own different way. But collectively, all of them have come to the same conclusion when I've discussed this with them that basically, the the deep state, the cabal, the these massive groups of people are at their last in in the the end of days for them. Like, they are nearing collapse. And it's hard to think about that and make sense of it when you look at the amount of power they have, the amount of amount of money and the amount of control. And it's like they're fighting proxy wars on top of proxy wars and there's a proxy you know, proxy wars.
• 54:09
  And it feels like we're just these little ants. And they're these not just humans, they're giants compared to us. But I've been studying some different books recently and, Gustave Laban in his book, The Crowd, he makes this a point that really got me thinking. And I really want to hear your feedback on this because one of the points that he makes in that book is that massive changes that happen in the world. Well, it seems like these changes come about because of a particular leader or just a particular initiative.
• 54:38
  He says these changes come about because the crowd. It's because the the collective, the the mass human thought changes. It's the change in the crowd that allows this massive change to happen and that even if you look at the like say, you know, Nazi Germany or different eras, propaganda was always a very important tool because for a leader to make a certain change, they had to have the minds of the people going along with it. And if you take that understanding and you step into, Edward Bernays and his book Propaganda or some of his other writings and talking about really, like mentioned earlier, the control, you know, whittling down the choice on the two different people or two different companies or Coke or Pepsi or you Republican or Democrat, etc. But then if you look at the the discussion that he has about the power of this invisible government to use the media and the modern communication to control the people, and then between the two of them, you know, that they walk you through this narrative of that, okay, you had the kings and and the oligarchs and the wealthy and the the very, very massive powerful leaders before that had, in a lot of ways, complete control over people.
• 55:49
  Like, you know, if you lived in, say England in the sixteen hundreds, it was the king reigned, right? And you were just the the peasant class for the most part. But then as you had the, the modernization of the world and people became wealthy and successful, a lot of that power started leaving from the the elites, it starts trickling down into the people like Elon Musk as an example that, you know, is as his wealth and he can buy Twitter and he can make these changes. That couldn't have happened two hundred years ago or even a hundred years ago, because it was they had such control. But as you step into where we're at right now, it's like we talked about the 60s, okay, the 60s, 70s, 80s, that was also became the prime use in the refinement of the modern television, of using the television to control the narrative and then using the change in the frequencies and using the television to even put you into the suggestible state, using different frequencies which put you into that the your brain waves shift and they can brainwash you even further, like they can program you with the television programs, right.
• 56:54
  And so you'd look at it and say the 60s, 70s, 80s, you know, they really gained complete control and on that trajectory, you could see how they could easily walk us directly into the new world order by 2020, '20 '20 '1. But I think that it was, you know, obviously Trump changing those plans in 2016 when he got in, but I think that that was actually the manifestation of a loss of their ability to control the crowd. Because as you had social media, you had YouTube, you had these tools that became powerful tools for the elites to control our thinking. But they also became tools for us to break their spell. And you had people like yourself, people like what I'm doing, you had all these individuals that are now using their technology to really to change the crowd.
• 57:42
  And so what we have now is that I'm seeing polls that, you know, I think more than 60% of Americans believe the election was stolen or rigged in 2020 to, 2020. The recent uptake of COVID vaccines was one or two or three percent in America. So it's obvious that they're losing control of the narrative. They're losing control of the people, which represents, again, going back to Gustave Le Bon, who really made the point that it's really those who control the crowd that can control the world. So they're losing control of the crowd and they're getting more desperate and the more desperate they become, the more erratic their actions are, which further reveal their intentions and further break people out of the spell.
• 58:22
  So do you are you also in a similar understanding that we're at a place in history where they are losing control and where they are near their end and that humanity does have hope and that we do have the opportunity to seize control of our own lives and our own countries and of our world again, front and seize that from this powerful elite.
• 58:49
  Mel K: A %. I don't think that we're losing. So, you know, that's that's the other part of this. I don't think there's some I agree with everything you just said a %. And and all three of those people, Martin Armstrong, Cliff High, and David Martin, are people that have really shifted the understanding as you are, as many people that we, we both know and respect have.
• 59:14
  And I don't believe any of our voices would be out there on the level that they are, if they were winning. And this is where I see a lot of this happening because I also try to you know, I changed the model of my show about two years ago, and I try to find voices from all over the world that can put together different dots and tell me. And so I've accumulated a bunch of people I really do trust that are in foreign countries that also feel this way. So when you know that it's the same all over the world and especially with people that do what we do or are journalists in Ireland or in, you know, South America or in Monaco or wherever, and they're saying the same thing that we're saying, and they're they're looking at, the same people and all of that. What they created, I believe, required them to continue to breed, Kissinger's and to breed Brzezinski's and grand strategists and people that are excellent at risk.
• 1:00:16
  You know? And they didn't. And while they dumbed down our children and our you know, turned the poison ivy leagues upside down under the guise of, you know, mind control or or dumbing down society so that our our intellectual expert class really were the dumbest of them all, in my opinion, were the most easily led, the most easily you know, that's that's one of the silver linings, I think, of COVID is that it bursts the bubble of the expert class or the the technocracy that wait a minute. So you're telling me that these people that we're supposed to put up there or the or the the intel controlled media because it is not a free media. Our media is the most complicit disgusting of all of the players here because the people that run the media know exactly what they're doing.
• 1:01:04
  And I mean the executive producers of the shows, of the TV shows. I worked in TV for twenty years in film. The people that run those companies are well aware of the globalist governance one world takeover. They are in on it. They believe, naively that they too will ascend with their friends in the Council of Foreign Relations and other places where these people gather to laugh at the ants.
• 1:01:31
  You know, those ants down there, there's just too many of them. You know, those poor things. So we really gotta clean that out. I mean, that's how these people think behind the scenes. Now, I think the financial system is a huge, huge problem, and I don't think it's just here.
• 1:01:46
  I think it's also in China. I think it's all over the world. They need the central bank digital currency, and thank God, enough people have been heard, on a massive scale worldwide. The World Health Organization also exposed on a massive scale worldwide. A lot of voices go viral on a massive scale worldwide.
• 1:02:06
  The hard part is that these people know it. I think that they're the most dangerous, which is what we're seeing right now because of that. The end for them is the end of everything for them that has been going on probably for well longer than, you know, five hundred years for some of the players in this game. Because it's my belief that you can put the Rockefellers or the Rothschilds or whatever names you want to choose, Klaus Schwab or you can push them to the front, Soros. There's people control above them, in my opinion.
• 1:02:40
  I don't think that we're dealing with a reality if we think that these people aren't willingly, front and center, and have agreed to play these parts of being the targets. If you go all the way back to the original, I think it was, I don't remember what, evangelist wrote, the first New World Order book, The seven hundred Club guy. You know, he was talking about all of this back then. They were allowing it. You know?
• 1:03:08
  They were they're allowing you to be distracted by you know, that that's the problem with this whole what to believe is that a lot of it is true to a certain extent. But there's more at play here. And I think that they are losing, and they are desperate, and they are dangerous. And a lot of what's happening with the advent of the very fake and fraudulent fact checkers, Also, because of this medium, what can they do? They've done it to me.
• 1:03:37
  Not you as bad, but I've seen to other people, but to way worse to all the way up to Donald Trump, but a lot in between all over the world is anyone that gets out of line. I think Julian Assange, the best example of it. They will destroy you without killing you. You know, they can't get away with just all the advances of assassinating people like they used to. You were speaking about the 1600s, 1700s, even 1960s.
• 1:04:04
  They can't get away with it. So they'll just destroy you as a while you're alive. It it's, you know, this digital assassination of your character. They'll destroy your family, your family members. We also know that there is a huge cover up of what, in God's name, who was Jeffrey Epstein blackmailing.
• 1:04:22
  You know? This is a worldwide cover up of the Epstein blackmail ring, and this is very dangerous for them as well. And and that's shaky too at this point. We've seen, you know, $350,000,000 in settlements trying to not get to the core of what was going on with Jeffrey Epstein. He had a Saudi passport.
• 1:04:43
  He had an Israeli passport. He had an American passport. His three best friends were who? Bill Clinton, prince Andrew, and Ehud Barak. You know?
• 1:04:51
  I mean, there's the and they're working for that that group. There's a lot falling apart. The all their investments in China. Well, China's having a lot of its own internal problems that aren't discussed because it's a communist country, and you're not gonna find that out. But taking all of our manufacturing in our industry and giving it to China maybe did not work out.
• 1:05:12
  So we have Kissinger, who I don't know how he's still old, I mean, alive at this age, but I believe one of the worst people and the architects of all of this saying it was a mistake now when he's 101 years old, you know, and out there talking about how it was a mistake. And I also believe that their AI, you know, their whole idea of AI, I believe that AI can be controlled by man and not the other way around. But AI in the hands of these evil people is very dangerous. And so I think a lot of fronts for them that they planned to, save themselves are falling apart. And the best best part of that is that they're no longer hiding.
• 1:05:53
  I I they they got too arrogant. You know? That whole thing about symbolism, they got so arrogant and in your face. This this event that happened in New York City at the UN two weeks ago was so in your face and so ridiculous that I just watched it as they brought the Clint Global Initiative. And there are 130 partners who don't seem to know what that stands for and what they've done on this planet, you know, know nothing, I guess, about Haiti and all the islands and everywhere they've gone and Africa, and that they're all part of the same team.
• 1:06:25
  When, in the beginning of COVID, the two weeks to stop the spread, we're watching on TV Cuomo come on stage with Bill Gates and Eric Schmidt equally nefarious and back behind the scenes there creating the digital gulag that they would like us all to sign on to, telling us that they're gonna reimagine New York. This had nothing to do with two weeks to stop the spread. So I just think that there's been so many warriors that have gotten out there that it overwhelmed their machine. And so now they have that garment, you know, responsibility and media being run by the World Economic Forum and the UN. They say that they have 300,000 people out there fighting disinformation and misinformation.
• 1:07:07
  No, they're fighting to keep the narrative going. And, they're losing the narrative, and that means that they'll lose. And I agree with you a %. That's where the crowd lies. And, for the people you mentioned and and many other people, that bravely stood up in the face of terrible attacks and cruelty and surveillance and track and trace and everything that's happened to everyone all the way up to the persecution of Donald Trump, I believe that they've failed already.
• 1:07:33
  And, I don't think they have the infrastructure or the ability. They don't seem to control Elon Musk anymore, which is a big part of pulling off their full digital track and trace surveillance gulag, with the satellites. So, yeah, I I think they're most dangerous right now, and we're probably gonna see a lot of terrible evil continuing. But I do believe they will fail. But the American people really have to realize, either you're on the team to save this nation or you are going to have no rights.
• 1:08:05
  So the rights you think you're standing and marching for will disappear. They will decide who these are eugenicists. These are these are very bad, bad people at the very top. So all their useful idiots that are marching around being funded by tides and Arabella and open society and all of them, they're soldiers on the wrong team. And all I'm hoping is that there is a couple breaks that are bad enough but not so bad because you and I tell our audience to prepare that these people, they're they're caged animals right now.
• 1:08:37
  They're they're rabied caged animals. But I do believe that God still plays a part here. The division is false. And what we need is that division to be that shattered. However it happens, it happens.
• 1:08:55
  But, for people to realize they have a lot more power than they think and that, it really is up to us. But, I agree with the idea that it's the crowd, not the individuals, changing that, is key.
• 1:09:08
  Seth Holehouse: Well, Mel, we could keep going for a long time, but I wanna be mindful of your time, and you've you've given us quite some time. And I really appreciate this. Before we sign off, though, I just wanna pull up your website, which is just themelkayshow.com. Also, in there you have all your links. I also wanna encourage everyone watching and most people are watching me on Rumble or they're listening via podcast to subscribe to your show on Rumble or find you on their podcast, that form of choice, whether it's Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etcetera.
• 1:09:37
  Your Rumble channel here. I'd say that in a lot of ways, you're one of the most similar people in your approach to how I approach Man in America, that you're just you're focusing on really important conversations and you're having these conversations and these conversations need to go far and wide, which is also why both of us were consistently asking people help us spread this information. If you enjoy the show, share it because all the algorithms are against us. If you were still on YouTube, you'd probably be at 10,000,000 subscribers by now, and maybe I'd be at 5,000,000, and we'd be just rocking and rolling and and the war would already be won. But this is an information war, and part of their, you know, war chest of weapons is the ability to cut us off of these massive channels like YouTube.
• 1:10:18
  So when the people that are watching and listening share these videos, these interviews, it helps us in what we're trying to do, which is to wake more people up. So Mel, thank you so much. It's always such a pleasure speaking with you. And I appreciate all that you've done. And I think that you've played a very important role in this battle for the soul of humanity.
• 1:10:41
  So thank you.
• 1:10:43
  Mel K: Yeah. Well, thank you for having me. I will have you on my show, of course, very soon as well. Our conversations are really incredible. And I just wanna encourage everyone to realize that any any kind of division at all, walk away from that.
• 1:10:58
  We really everyone brings a different perspective, a different voice. Be discerning. You know? But trust yourself. Trust your gut.
• 1:11:04
  God gave you, great instincts that you should really, really pay attention to, and don't let the cognitive warfare, disrupt what you believe in your heart. And I think we, we got this, and stay strong and be prepared. And, Seth, your work is incredible, and I'm inspired by you every time I see any show. And, I'm honored to always join you. Thank you so much.
• 1:11:24
  Seth Holehouse: Well, thank you.