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RHOC Recap "Was Heather CUT (fitness) Out of the Fun? · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama Darling. Drama Darling, Drama Darling. Hello, Darlings, it's me
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Amy Phillips and it is Thursday. We are talking Orange County today Tomorrow.
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know, join me for my All Tiers Zoom Hangout. It's gonna be this
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Sunday, that's right, July sixteenth, five Eastern daylight time and eight Pacific
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daylight time. Emily. You know, I'm really specific about putting that D
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in the middle of the E and the T and the P and the T
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because we are in daylight savings time, right, Yeah, And I always
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forget that that is important and the board don't do the D or the P.
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I don't like. I don't. I don't because I understand, but
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I was correct. You know. That's this is the journey I'm on,
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Emily Jesis, and that is this when I'm corrected about something that seems kind
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of important and an interesting detail. I like to, you know, live
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my best life and I like to, you know, raise my standards high.
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So now that I learned that the D stands for daylight savings, and
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you know, standard time is when we fall back to our standard time.
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And that's the s in the nov who educated you on that was I have
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no idea light attendance because crew, the stew crew. Probably it's like,
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thank you, Amy, because that is important. Major shout out to the
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stew crew. And you know, the stew crew is going to be joining
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me here on the Drama Darling podcast very soon. It is going to be
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such great timing because we are in the middle of summer travel. You know,
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there have been a lot of things going on in the flight industry,
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and like, I just have a million questions. I'm also going to post
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probably on Instagram and of course on Patreon, what questions, darlings do you
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have for the stew crew. These are this is a gaggle of flight attendants
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who are Bravo fanatics who will remain nameless and faceless. Okay, by the
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way, and we're not going to mention what airline they work for. Nothing
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like that. So, but I'm going to ask them all the questions that
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we have about travel and such so, and it's a great time to do
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it. And I'm going to be airing that literally when I'm going to be
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in the air flying back to Michigan to help my mother for her hip surgery.
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Hip surgery, Baby, if you have any episodes a lot of questions,
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I'm gonna be going into the surgical room for the hip surgery episode,
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the big hip surgery episode. I'm kidding, I'm not doing that, but
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I will say I welcome any and all advice on anyone who's had hip surgery
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recently. I would say within the last five years, because you know that
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the you know, things change in the medical field, and I would love
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to hear what your experience was like in terms of how it can be helpful
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to my mother and I who is going to be her caregiver for a little
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short of a week. So I'll be flying back to Michigan for that.
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Glad I could keep you updated on all things elderly. Listen, Emily Deesis
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is with me here. We're talking Orange County today and tomorrow. Project Runway,
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the Bonus episode this week and beyond until it ends is the Bachelorette with
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Deanna Chang, and she and I have been really having a last talking about
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the Bachelorette. And you can find those episodes on my Patreon. Those are
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all up now. Okay, So, Emily Darling, I'm so happy to
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see you. How are you feeling today? Are you feeling good? I
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feel pretty good. I have an addendum. Now it's time for Emily's Emily's
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notes and corrections. One Crappy Lake episode, I said, oh boy,
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Crappy Lake was produced by Peacock and I think I did read that. I
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can't tell you the source. But then I was looking yesterday and I think
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it's produced by Bravo and I and I kind of slammed Bravo to say that
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they would never do it, they would never pay for something like that.
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And here where I was me be incorrect. Thank you. That's the end
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of the addendums. Well, thank you, You're welcome. I thank you.
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I'm glad that we could have this platform for this. I always I
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circle back a million times over and say things of that nature, like I
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have a correction. But here's the thing, I know you're reacting. Okay,
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but it does. It is little confusing because it says like Bravo and
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Peacock at the same like, there's both both logos are there and associated with
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crappy leg Now it is? Is it supposed to think that it's universal NBC
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NBC? Right? Yeah, so NBC's producing, but I don't know if
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it's but it's airing on both. It's airing on Bravo, right, was
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it just air Yeah? Okay, so it's I watched it on Peacock.
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I didn't even like I went to go look for the screener and the screeners
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aren't up for me. But it is under like it's there, So I
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don't know. I mean, I have no idea when it's airing. Oh
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yeah, it's airing on Sunday nights, Sunday nights on Bravo. Yeah,
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okay, and there we go. So there we go. So look,
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and I wasn't going to say a word. And then you were talking about
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living your best life. When you know better, you do better, right,
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and you level you level up, Emily, you got to step up,
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and you know what, thank you, thank you. You can always
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bring your duendems and your reactions here for as far as I'm concerned, and
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I know the darlings will love that vagina. It's like a lot, a
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lot of skipping. It's just feeling it on the song. It's too it's
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too vagina. And that's how we roll here, that is how we roll
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well, Emily, we do have some dish to serve up today, So
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why don't we get into dish a easy eating niche. First of all,
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Bravo, Oh boy, Bravo has jumped into the zeitgeist of the Bravospeerau has
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announced today that tickets for Bravo Con. The three day tickets will go on
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sale on July twenty first at twelve pm, and they have Eastern time,
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they have e t they don't have e DT. I just want you to
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know it's defensive. I believe it. And nine am pet check out PRAVOCN
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twenty three dot. Come you guys. It's happening. It is happening,
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whether we like it or not. Well, which I think I'm gonna go
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because it's in Vegas, Emily. You have to go almost you have to
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come. You gotta go see the darlings. The darlings would love to see
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you. Yeah, maybe you can. You can We can figure out something
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where I can hire you for to be involved with the cabaret in some way,
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and perhaps we do something with drama Darling there. I'll make it worth
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your while. I'm I'm here for it. Once I learn new flight strategies
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from the stew crew, I'm gonna really be able to get to Vegas.
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Oh, I'm driving, I'm driving. You know what they said that I
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was like to drive? I know, I know. Well, it's so
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easy to fly, which I would imagine would be a very good thing for
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people to do. But because I'm gonna have so many props, I'm like,
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instead of just shoving them all in a value, it'll be great to
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just shove everything so nicely into my car and then just get in the car
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and drive and practice all my songs on the way there. I'm probably gonna
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shove it all into my private jet like Lou and Son, and then also
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ship everything to the motel. I'm gonna definitely ship like a wardrobe rack.
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And I'm gonna need some bins. I'm gonna need some bins, so international
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luxury lifestyle bins, A fruit basket on the ground. Oh my god,
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we didn't mention the fruit basket on the ground. We covered Crappy Lake yesterday.
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If you're not signed up from a Patren, guys, it was like
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under the TV hunch it was puch. I didn't even know what that was.
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Cabinet, it's it it to cabinet. It's a cabinet, TV cabinet.
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I am so excited. So it's basically the three day tickets that go
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on sale next Friday. It's just the three day Okay, So that's what's
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happening. I'm staying at Caesar's, honey. I'm staying at Caesar's Palace.
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I'm already. I'm booked and blessed, booked and blessed. You know,
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I need to because Jessica Joy, who's been on drama Darling's Head and I
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love talking about it, and I think that she has a place at Caesar's.
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But I don't want to commit to that. Wow, So I'll ask
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her. But yeah, I think we're I think we're I'm going to go.
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So yeah, oh you're so bare out. Okay, well we'll work
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it out. Also, I'm working out my cabaret show to be three nights
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Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Okay, the details, it's gonna take some
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time to work these details out, all right, So I can't really say
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where I'm going to be yet and how you can get tickets. But let
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me tell you, darlings, I am working tirelessly. I'm getting that to
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happen. So there's a lot of exciting things that are but percolating underneath the
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surface for these events that I'm trying to put together. So please stay tuned
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and in the meantime, get your tickets next twenty on the twenty first,
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at twelve pm Eastern daylight time and nine am Pacific daylight time. What a
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little asshole I am. People are gonna be so annoyed by that. And
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I don't blame you. I don't blame you. Just to take out the
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D, take out the S, and I agree, it's to make it
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simple. Just do the P and the T. Just do the E and
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the T. Yeah, it's You're only an asshole when you're like, I'm
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sorry, I don't know what time you're talking about, oh right, or
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if you're gonna correct somebody like I just did, You're an asshole. That's
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why I'm an asshole, because I honestly am, like I could be fully
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on the other side of this, I can see myself being fully like,
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stop it with the D. Okay, nobody knows what the D is.
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Just do pt yeah anyway, but here I am. I know better you
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are, so now man it all? Now, man it all, like
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Beth Amy. Okay, we need to talk about a couple other things in
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dish number one. Kristin Kish is the new host of Top Chef. She
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will be replacing Padma Lakshmi, who has now stepped down from the position.
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I packed my knives and I went home, and I'm so sad it is.
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It's the end of an era. Padma is queen of all. We
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all love Padma so much, and she's been doing it. She did it
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for since the beginning. And now you know, I'm happy she's going to
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be doing Taste the Nation, Taste of the Nation, Daylight Savings. But
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now it's time and I think Kristin Kish is a perfect new host and I'm
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very thrilled about that, very very thrilled. So she'll be beginning, I
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believe, on the twenty first season of Top Chef, because it was the
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twentieth season this past season. See, that's a good time to leave a
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good time. It's a good time. Absolutely, what a great legacy she
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has left behind, and I would imagine they'll have her comeback for for some
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fun. Okay, here is the other news that we really need to discuss,
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and that is the Kim and Kroi situation. So body cam footage has
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been released. There's two pieces of footage, one of Kim and one of
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Kroi, completely separately, of both of them having called the cops. So
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let's start with Kim's and page six basically posts this footage and it's Kim Zulsiak
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is crying, accusing kroy Berman of locking her out. This is Bodykim footage.
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It's footage of the cops showing up to Kim and Kroi's house to the
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front door. Kim opens the door, she is crying. It's very dark,
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there are no lights on. She is basically saying that she was locked
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out, that her husband was being aggressive, and she had someone on the
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phone with her who is quote unquote like her mom. It wasn't her mom,
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but she's like her mom. This person did try to talk for Kim
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because Kim was so upset that she was having a hard time explaining to the
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cop. What was going on. So when this person would start talking on
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the phone on behalf of Kim, then Kim would interrupt her, and then
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she would be like trying to explain what Croy had been doing, that he
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had been aggressive, that he was following her around. When she went into
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the basement bedroom, she said, I deserve to be in this bathroom,
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and he said get out, get out. I want to take a shower,
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but he locked me out and I can't get back in. She accused
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him of screaming in her face, and she put a chair on the basement
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door with a lock, and then he took cutters or something to get in.
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She said, something's wrong with his mind, something not right, And
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that's pretty much it. Now she's wearing a bathrobe or you know our conversation
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over text yesterday. I don't need to make light of the situation, but
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I did. When I was watching this footage, I was like, she's
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got this bathrobe on and it's like over her shoulder and it's tied, but
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it's like kind of over her shoulder, very sexy, and she's got Falcon
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Crest dynasty right, and you can see her whole chest, I mean,
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not her bear chest, but like her pajamas or her neglige if you will,
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right, But she keeps adjusting the robe as if as if to I
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need to cover myself up, but her her boobs and her chest are never
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covered, like they're always open, so she's kind of like fumbling with it
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to like you know, I'm like, oh, okay, she's just gonna
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cover herself up because she looks disheveled. But she just readjusts the robe around
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her chest, which is interesting, and I'm like, this is so Kim,
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Like, even in distress, she's like just ready for Instagram, you
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know, just as amazing the second another human whoever it is, is in
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the room. No matter the situation, the show goes on with Kim,
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and it doesn't take away from the any kind of like trauma that happened.
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It's just her nature to like perform so interesting. I think sometimes that gets
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misunderstood as like then it was all a performance and none of this is real.
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I don't think that's the case. I know she did seem very upset,
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right, which was shocking to see because we've never seen her like this.
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I've never seen her like this of you, no, I mean not
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even like in the throes of a needy fight or something or candy. She
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never cries. Yeah, so I mean I think she cries. She like
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I remember like something about her kids, but that was more of a happy
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thing. Oh oh, gotcha. But like this thing with Krois does seem
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legit. I just in my in for me, I would have acted completely
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different. But that doesn't mean that it's right or wrong what Kim was doing.
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It just I put immediately put myself in her position and think it's hilarious
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because I just can't imagine like putting my tits out in a room to the
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cops. But that's Kim, right, and that's just part of it.
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Love me or hate me, haiters. But I did think, like,
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what was frustrating for me is that I understand you're completely under distress, and
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then she can't explain what's going on, so she has this person talk for
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her, and then the second the person starts trying to explain, she cuts
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her off, and it's just like and then he did this, and then
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I'm like, okay, all right, Well, I think she just needed
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the confidence to try to somebody just needed to help her along. But it
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was like, yeah, Okay, we just need the story. Somebody can
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just tell us the story. The cops are waiting, like, we don't
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know what's going on. We need to Is there an emergency here? Is
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there an emergency? Please help us understand because you're very distraught. Also,
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I think I do recall her maybe getting upset in terms of crying when that
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dog bite thing happened, when the dog bit her boy's face, which they
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still have that dog, and I wonder if it's that same dog that was
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barking when the cops came in and they're like, can you turn on the
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lights? Can we get some lights in here? And then the dog is
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like going nuts. She's just like, sorry about my dog. It's fucking
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crazy. Which, again, Kim is Kim in like the worst case scenario,
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She's still very entertaining, like and this is why you know there always
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is going to be a soft spot in my heart for Kim. And I
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hated seeing her so upset and on the heels of knowing what we know.
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Well, I guess I should say what is alleged about the gambling and her
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gambling away tons of money. And then when I had Melissa Reich, the
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therapist on my show and Darlings. You can listen to that episode. It's
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actually here on wherever you listen to podcasts. But she spoke to Kim and
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her stroke and that us having a stroke was such a huge incident in her
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life that it can cause post traumatic stress disorder and that some of these behaviors
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with the gambling addiction and things like that, like a processing addiction, could
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be a result of the stroke and if possibly had this addiction before, it
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can make it even worse, or the people can start acting out and not
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being themselves because they never dealt with the PTSD. For more on that,
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please listen to that episode because I can't explain it the way Melissa does,
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but it was awesome. It was awesome. She's our Brava Liberty psychotherapist.
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You can find her on Our bish Therapist on Instagram and all platforms. But
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Kroy Bierman, now, his bodycam footage was another at another point at another
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time, and this cop is talking to him about all right, so what's
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going on? And so Croy is basically saying, like I was getting Matthew
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McConaughey vibes. I don't know if you were. He's like, she is
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all right, all right, all right, decimated our finiances and like,
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basically, he was saying that she has gambled away seven hundred thousand dollars just
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in the last two years online gambling, which he says is illegal and lines
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up with the PTSD completely. Yeah, and that totaling like one point five
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million dollars that she's gambled away. This is all alleged. This is from
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the bodycam footage. This is what Croy is saying. And he's like,
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she's gonna be served, She's gonna be served, and all right, all
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right, all right, she's gonna be served tomorrow. I retained a lawyer.
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And then the cop is like, are you guys, so if you're
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separated, are you like sleeping in the same bed? Are you separated in
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the house? And Kroy is basically like, I'm not gonna be sleeping on
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the couch. We have a fifteen thousand dollars mattress. I need it for
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my body. And then the CoP's like, oh, I hear you,
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man. I got injured in Iraq and I was like, all right,
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guys, I know you're having a bra I know you're and bro momenting out
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right now, but can we get back to the issue. But this is
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the thing about like bodycam footage, where you get these moments where you're like,
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we should not be here, like you know what I mean. But
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I did like that the cop was very kind to both of them in this
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scenario. They were whether or not it was the same cop for both,
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they seemed to be very understanding. They seem to be very patient trying to
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get to the bottom of this, and we got the story. What in
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the world, who in the world, and where did this bodycam footage come
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from? How do they get it? And it's just like after we know
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that they are now trying to reconcile their relationship after all this and what we
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know, how does this footage get out there? Well, because it's public.
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After a certain amount of time, it's public. That's why when they
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do not know that a controversial police incident, sometimes they hold it and people
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are like, no, the law, like it depends on the state,
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but yeah, you have to release that stuff. So basically publication okay,
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so publication can go and just get it. Anybody can you request? You
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requested? And then it's released to the public. Wow, is my understanding
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been per state? Yeah? Wow, America's aunt just spoke. Wow,
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thank you, Emily. That's amazing. Yeah, I never knew how that
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worked. Never knew how that worked. Yeah, it's not like that's the
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reason to have the bodycam is to make public and have accountability for the public
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that they serve. Okay, I think I said that Kim was trying to
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take a shower, but it looks like Croy was saying he was asking her
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kindly to leave the bedroom so he could shower in privacy because he doesn't trust
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her, and she was refusing to leave, and he said she's a narcissist,
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so she's playing her games, and that he said her crying. Yeah,
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I don't think like both Kim and Kroy, I will say, acted
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very differently than I would if I were in either of their situations. I
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will just it wasn't just Kim that was a little weird. It's also Croy,
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like, so not a little weird, just like it's wild just to
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see the bodycam footage in general, because you're like, oh, I mean,
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I would never act like that, And meanwhile it's like maybe I would.
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I wouldn't put my taw but that's Kim. I would, but I
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would definitely, Yeah, you want some coffee? Damn, it's just crazy.
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No, But if you I just want to talk you hope. I
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turned into Kim me too. I mean I okay, so her the kids
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were sleeping at the time, which is why maybe they were keeping their voices
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down. See, this is what I don't understand, Like we're was he
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in the house at the same time, like in another room and they both
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the body cam footage is like they were happening at the same time or is
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this like did he leave? I'm called the cops. Yeah, and usually
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they interview the suspects or the suspects the DV victim and the violator at the
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same time with different cops, right, or they come back and forth,
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so they could have both been in the house. Yeah, wow, interesting,
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Okay, Yeah, it looks like with Croy, I think it was.
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I think it was, uh, definitely, I think it was the
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same night. That's what I'm gonna include with ok Right. It was also
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weird to see that kitchen like under those circumstances when we've just seen it on
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Tardy for the party and like how like all the fun things you know,
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you think of Chef Tracy in there and all the kids, and it's like
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a set. It's like yes, the cheers bar, and people are getting
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slamed up against it and arrested and you're like, whoa, what is not
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right? Yeah? Wow, that's a really good point. Yeah Okay,
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Well I think that's all the time we have for our dish today. So
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darlings, without further ado, we're going to get right into our recap for
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I I was laughing because the one gal who's like with the red hair,
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who's helping out, you know, around the fire and pioneer woman,
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right, you're talking about like when you made that joke last week, you
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were like talking about the actual pioneer woman like the well because it looks like
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the pioneer woman looks exactly like the pioneer woman. And it just went right
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over my head and I was like, that's what she was saying. I
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thought you were just like making them pioneer woman women are the pioneer women,
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and then the redhead looks just like le Lee whatever her name is. By
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the way, Yes, I love a pioneer woman dish. I like that
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is like my favorite dish. Oh, I'm a sucker. I'm a sucker
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for a pioneer woman dish and not only the actual cooking dish, but the
26:41
dishes and the cook where she sells at Walmart. Oh, talking about that's
26:48
if you go in my kitchen, that's what I have because it's all vineance
26:52
patterns that you can actually use in a microwave and like, you know,
26:56
you don't have to worry about breaking them and stuff. Read drumming Drummond.
27:00
That's her name. Yeah, Drummond. Thank you. Well I made her.
27:03
I've given her a lot of money and she deserves it. I mean,
27:07
talk about talk about a pioneer, a woman of you know, dishware,
27:12
of dishware and cooking and I do. I. Yeah, she's great.
27:15
I love her. I think she's a real Housewives fan because she wore
27:18
Joe Vanni to her daughter's wedding. Get out of here. Oh, I
27:22
swear it was in my news one. Yeah, it was in my news
27:26
at some point in my life. So we are still in Montana. There
27:30
were picking up off of the Gina and Heather with that, with Gina crying
27:36
in the jeep and Heather saying like Travis is your boyfriend, not your therapist,
27:40
and then we get that flashback to twenty nineteen, when we kind of
27:45
get refreshed on the story that Travis had cheated on on Gina when her youngest
27:51
was four months old. Matt, Matt had cheated Travis say, oh yeah,
27:56
sorry, I'm sorry, Sorry, Trav. Sorry t I mean really
28:02
triggered Ginay. Oh god, I realized she does not need another trigger.
28:07
Okay, so mate, sorry Matt. That is how I will remember.
28:15
She did her when the baby was four months old. And then it was
28:18
twenty nineteen, and then she had found out months like just earlier that he
28:22
had it was still going on. Yeah, yeah, And I mean they're
28:29
done. They broke up, and I get that it's hard, but you
28:33
know, so I also feel like Gina's got some work to do. Oh
28:37
yeah, we did, and let's discuss more. So here's the thing.
28:41
You know, part of the reason why she loves Travis so much is because
28:47
he can't handle all the radio on what I'm going through. Like she basically
28:52
sang, and she did admit to Heather, I don't like to acknowledge that
28:56
I haven't dealt with this pain, you know, I like to pretend that
28:57
it's okay. That was a very brave statement, and I think that's the
29:04
beginning to somebody who's gonna maybe be potentially ready to work on getting through this.
29:11
And what I would like to say, because I want to jump to
29:15
the conversation between Gina and Travis, which was at the very end, because
29:21
I really felt like this was an amazing conversation to watch and one of the
29:26
reasons why I stand Gina being on the show, and a lot of people
29:30
question should she leave? How do you feel about Emily and Gina things like
29:33
that, like I just want to see Gina's story, you know, I
29:40
don't know. I want to see some closure for her in the way of
29:42
her emotional journey and her mental journey, because what she has been through is
29:47
really really traumatic. And when Gina and Travis were talking over Thai noodle soup,
29:52
which looked I can't, I was so jealous. Don't do that,
29:57
like that is like an Achilles heel for me, I'm like, I can't,
30:00
this is not fair. I just want to eat it every day all
30:03
day, like noodles and soup. Oh look, I have to also give
30:08
it up to Gina because rare is the coming out of a shit storm relationship
30:15
that the person doesn't enter into another shit storm relationship. So Travis great point,
30:22
you know, like he's pretty solid. It seems he's like a really
30:25
great guy, and usually that doesn't happen. It's not you usually repeat a
30:30
pattern. Yes, exactly. So maybe part of that is, like maybe
30:34
Gina is feeling like because she actually really likes Travis and he's so different from
30:40
that that like she doesn't have to do the work, but there's still obviously
30:45
it's coming out in other ways. Mm hm, that's I agree. I
30:52
think this makes her more relatable. Yeah, yeah, and and something to
30:57
aspire to in terms of of like, well Gina found this great guy,
31:02
like I you know, like I think that, As I said before,
31:07
I would really like Bravo to keep her on at least through their real estate
31:11
license first year. If we can just get that, get that and like
31:15
and maybe see some therapy. Get I mean, get through some therapy and
31:21
see how you can heal on your own. Now, Travis to me is
31:26
an amazing partner. Like I was so blown away by him. We've never
31:30
really seen anyone like him on the Real Housewives. He's an incredible partner.
31:37
He's he's somebody who is very rare. He's like a normal guy. He
31:41
actually believe it or not. And I can't believe I'm actually going to say
31:45
this because I never thought that I would ever get to this point. But
31:48
he reminds me he's the only person that is any reminiscent, like any kind
31:53
of similarities to my husband, Brett. Like Brett is very much like that.
32:00
He's just very solid. He's very like, Okay, yeah, well
32:05
let's in the let's talk about it. Like he's very much brings me that
32:09
same energy that Travis is bringing to Gina. And and I like this.
32:15
She asked him, like, well, Heather said this, but you know,
32:20
she said, how much can Travis take? And should should I not
32:22
talk to you about these things? And he's like, no, you should
32:25
absolutely talk to me about this. You know, that's one of my jobs
32:30
in this relationship. And you need to get to a point where it's okay
32:31
to feel what you feel and don't, you know, suppress it. He's
32:37
saying all the right things. I mean, he says, he even said
32:38
something better in the cut scene. Yeah, he said, oh, in
32:42
the cut scenes, no tell me, tell me. In the cut scene
32:45
on Peacock, they showed that. He said, you know, Gina like
32:50
maybe Heather's going through something because like, I can't imagine when I have to
32:54
like switch up custody with my kids. I can barely handle that time away
32:59
from them. And her two kids just went to college, Like that's got
33:02
to be so hard for her. And holy damn, Travis, Oh my
33:07
god. Wow. So in that way, I'm like, that's when I'm
33:13
like, you know, like because there are husbands that are reserved or partners
33:17
that are reserved on like I'm even thinking like Martin and Abergelova is kind of
33:24
like held back in Miami, and I kind of think that she walks that
33:30
line as best as Travis. But like Bill, for example, in New
33:36
Jersey is really reserved. But you know he's kind of like there's a lot
33:39
going on there that's not right, right, right, right, Yeah,
33:43
but he's not showing up, but he's just all there for the taking and
33:47
he's just a chill, cool dude. I know. It's it's really it's
33:52
incredible. It's incredible that she they found each other, and I can see
33:57
why in a way him being a hindrance to her healing because he's so great
34:06
in that way. Yeah, So all this to say, like she still
34:10
needs to do the work apart from him, though, like I do still
34:14
agree with with Heather in the sense that you can't always be going to Travis
34:19
because he can't He's not going to be able to complete you in the way
34:22
that you need to do the work for yourself to complete yourself. So's he's
34:25
been a great crutch in that. And then I say crutch, and I
34:30
don't really mean it in that negative of a way, but like, he
34:34
has definitely been very instrumental in her healing because he's been such an incredible partner
34:39
and the complete opposite of what she's experienced. So that's great, But now
34:45
you still like you've postponed it for that very reason that you didn't even need
34:49
to do the work because he's so amazing. So now he's been there for
34:52
you, you can work things out with him in that way, but now
34:55
it's time to definitely do the work on your own. Dare you amy say
34:59
the word work that many times without a Vicky Gummel cinema, So say you
35:04
gotta go to work, get to work at yourself. I take it back,
35:06
I apologize, work, you gotta work, You got to work,
35:08
you gotta work. Would you need to work. People'll never do the work
35:15
right emotion the work. I don't have type of that because I have to
35:20
actually work. I mean, you know. The other thing is I like
35:27
that Travis said. He's like, you know, if she wasn't coming to
35:30
me, that would be upsetting to me. We're there to help each other
35:34
through hard times. He's like, lean on me more. I've got pretty
35:37
big shoulders, So let's go. I thought that was so sweet. And
35:39
then Gina says that she doesn't really want to bring it up because she's like,
35:43
because everything's so good now and I want to to stay good. And
35:46
I totally get that, Like that completely made sense to me and why you
35:51
can justify continuing to suppress it and bury it. So again, she's right
35:57
for the picking for some therapy here, and she hasn't dealt with what she
36:00
has gone through, right, so she's gonna have to pay the piper on
36:05
that one. I was very I know we're jumping around a little bit here,
36:09
but yeah, So seeing the Gena and Travis thing, I had kind
36:13
of a light bulb moment about Jen and Ryan. Oh and so going back
36:17
to like the idea of like there's you know, somebody that's a serial cheater,
36:22
which goes in line with like that, that's just what they do in
36:28
relationships, is how they can be in a relationship. They can't be monogamous.
36:30
That's just their thing, and it's not there's probably some really unhealthy stuff
36:36
that goes with that. But where I think Jen is kind of an innocent
36:39
dove and not in that category is that she was like she kind of hasn't
36:46
had like a relationship like Gina had with Matt, and she thinks that everybody's
36:54
good and sees the good and everybody oh wow. And also she can't admit
37:01
that Ryan's an idiot because she's given up everything she's put. She's invested one
37:07
hundred percent into this guy. So she can't be wrong about that. Oh
37:13
no, But but now I wouldn't be. But she is the opposite of
37:15
Gina where she was in a Maybe we don't really know a lot about her
37:21
past, but I'm I'm going to assume I think that's healthy. That absolutely
37:24
assume that her first husband was like Travis, and she she did she did
37:30
the yeah, oh my gosh, this is a Yin and Yang season of
37:35
Orange County. It's the it is the universe balancing things out in a way
37:39
that is somehow also emotionally lightning crash is well said. Wow, let's take
37:58
just a short little break right here, please. Yeah, And that's fine
38:04
enough for me. So can we just talk about the gen and Ryan scene,
38:08
because we have to talk about Maverick the dog, that's the most important.
38:15
Yes, you're telling me you gave me a look like you didn't even
38:19
notice the Golden Retriever that was adorable, and that was in the pool and
38:22
then came out and was on the couch looking at the camera all a sad
38:25
faced and cute. I got so lost in Ryan's eyes. Oh, I
38:30
got lost in Maverick's eyes. Oh that dog is like I didn't is that
38:37
bad, darling sound? It was very sorry. I think maybe you were
38:39
looking at their decor, their kitchen. Were you looking at their kitchen decor?
38:44
Are we huge about the cat where they're sitting on the sectional? Yeah,
38:47
the sectional, you know in the kitchen. Wow, I didn't know
38:51
there was a dog in the Oh my god, the dog went on top
38:53
of them at the end of the scene. I must have been looking at
38:59
was my chair, darling, That was my chair and moving my feet around.
39:00
It made a little little squeak. I don't want you to think of
39:04
anything else is happening. He's sitting on her pool noodle. Yeah, I
39:09
have no gosh, that is really bad. I gotta tell you I didn't
39:14
notice it. Do you know who Archie is Archie h oh Ship, which
39:22
I can't I can't believe you don't know who my dog is? I know
39:27
Storm, that's Kyle's dog, Gammar, I get down on and I know
39:32
those dogs won't be ignored. Maverick apparently you know you've got a blind spot
39:37
there. But that's okay, and Katie Maloney and Schwartz's dog who dry homes
39:42
all the time. Yeah, we don't need to shut it. I need
39:46
it. That's how I remember. So, yeah, I do need to
39:49
see it. Okay. So Ryan and Jen are sitting on the couch and
39:59
and Ryan and is like, after she tells him what happened about dam said,
40:06
how does tell me that it's that that Bryan Watson and my gam and
40:09
Pineptman said that I'm I'm the fuck her, and and so he's like,
40:16
I hope he told Tamar that that was not accurate. I actually said have
40:21
sex with her that's not accurate. I would never say f And then and
40:27
then we talk about like the Dick pic and and how he's like, did
40:30
you tell her that I'd send it to the whole address book? I would
40:34
not every woman in my address book, not just her, I mean it
40:37
was every woman in my address book. I mean hello, He's like,
40:40
I wouldn't have said miss you to every Like, right, Well, I
40:45
have to say, and I know that this is is this controversial, I
40:49
don't know. I don't think it's important enough to be controversial. But I
40:52
believe him on the Dick pic thing. I'm gonna give him that. I'm
40:54
gonna give him that that was a mistake because I do think it's a little
40:58
weird that, Like, so, here's the that piece was missing. If
41:00
he actually sent it to everybody in his address book, that's a different story
41:06
than just sending it to Heather. I mean, that's two different stories.
41:10
Send it to every Wow, that's what he said. He said. So
41:15
why wouldn't Jen say that because she says that's what I'm saying, there's two
41:19
different stories. Yeah, we need to unpack that face reality sixteen ups reality
41:24
ups, Like, here's the thing he's he's over exaggerating to make himself look
41:30
like he was right. So if he's saying I send it to my whole
41:32
address book, is he talking about his address book and snapchat that consists of
41:38
only six people, right? Or are you talking about your whole address book
41:44
and your phone because that would be a fucking disa. That would be h
41:50
that would be in the local news in Orange County. Idiot sends dick pic
41:53
to whole phone book, you know what I mean? Like right, That's
41:58
why I'm confused. So he's over exaggerating and saying like the whole address book
42:01
when that only consists of six people, and apparently his kids are on that
42:06
too, because if it is Snapchat, is she protecting to say like,
42:10
oh, we don't want the world to know you send it to your kids?
42:13
Yeah, because that's pretty messed up. So what's the story here?
42:15
Because I can't get a handle on it because if it is, yeah,
42:20
then let's say we can't walk away from all right, we're walking away.
42:25
I can't. I'm getting too worked up right now. But the rest of
42:29
it is still very weird, Like I don't like the guy, I don't
42:34
trust him, and I think I don't trust him either. Yeah, is
42:37
like really nervous that she screwed up, Like I don't know, at least
42:45
she's not married yet with him at least. I also am like very confused
42:51
with both of them and the way they tell their stories because when Jen was
42:55
explaining about this whole Tamoragen Heather thing, we found out that they were like
43:01
the new trace amigas or something like that. This probably happened when Tamra was
43:07
you know, left the show and she found you know, other friends to
43:10
hang out with during that time. And then Jen says Heather was a sister
43:15
to Ryan, which sure, yes, she's using that, Yeah, a
43:21
sister or like not like a sister, right, but she said Heather was
43:25
a sister to Ryan. We need to use our words correctly when we're on
43:30
a television show and we're giving exposition, because when you say things like that,
43:35
we go, oh, is that his sister? Because you didn't say
43:38
he was like a sister. It's kind of like I feel like, Teresa,
43:43
well you shared that telling me to use an analogy, Like I need
43:46
a little more information here because I can't connect the dots because I don't know
43:50
you. I don't speak Jen yet you know, so she's saying, well,
43:52
what I'm gathering is reading between the lines. Heather was close enough to
43:58
Ryan where he started telling her things about his own life and that Heather started
44:04
to get concerned about it, and then questioned their relationship and was starting to
44:10
tell Jen some things that Ryan had been telling her but leaving stuff out and
44:15
was being vague cryptic. Then the next thing, you know, Heather and
44:22
Jen parted ways. They all parted ways because they started to question Ryan.
44:29
Yeah, and it's basically like everybody tried to warn Jen and when they warned
44:31
Jen, right right, right, so hello, right, yeah, at
44:37
the end of friendship, Yeah, everybody's going to be gone except for Ryan,
44:43
and it's going to have to make this and what and Maverick and mav
44:46
Sorry, God, I'm really sorry Maverick ignoring him. She's the nerve Darlings.
44:53
I like animals. Please don't hate me. She does, she does,
45:01
right anyway, carry on. So that's what happened. I just don't
45:05
look at them because they're disgusting. I was like, you know, I'm
45:12
thinking, you don't look at Jen and Ryan. I get it. I'm
45:14
like trying, I'm seeing through things, you know, the animals. Anyway,
45:19
anyway, it's just going to be her and Ryan, and she's going
45:22
to be forced to film with the housewives on an island on the land on
45:29
the and then maybe she'll figure it out and I will like to watch that.
45:35
I would like to watch that too, because she's just like, well,
45:38
a lot of people warned me, and then relationships ended, and then
45:43
and then there was a dick pic that was sent to women, and then
45:46
I just don't understand everybody else. So Ryan and I are in love and
45:51
it's like one of those things. It's just watching a slow car crash and
45:55
yes, so oh, but also Termor and Eddie on that hike and it's
46:01
so funny because I love that they like go on this hike. And then
46:07
Tarama is talking about, you know, her gem is closing and stuff like
46:12
that. So like they're talking about how they're closing the gem and the gem
46:15
is like almost done, and like now Eddie's working on opening the new office,
46:20
which is the Vina office, which is great and so successful. She's
46:24
killing it with Venus CBD and and then she like they get to the top
46:30
of the trail and then she's like somebody telling you that. One Brian went
46:34
walked in the cut and he watched in the gym, he like punt at
46:37
me and he said, I'm a fucker. He said that in our in
46:45
our gym. And then Edie's like, really, why don't you do the
46:50
honors, Emily? Why don't you? Why don't we just Okay, I'll
46:52
be Tama and you be Eddie. Okay if you recall all right, okay,
46:57
so let me take it from the top. Okay, okay, okay,
47:00
So that end of this child. So I just want to tell you
47:02
if I asked to tell you this or like identity tell you this, but
47:06
like some may tell me that, Heather tell me that, like when Brian
47:10
like walked in our gem, like he put him in said a fuck her.
47:16
So, yeah, yeah, I heard I heard women. What what
47:23
do you wait? Wait, what do you saying there? Now? Yeah,
47:27
I'm going to talk to him. Wait did you hear this at the
47:29
jam? Did you hear this at Gem? Yeah? I heard it Cut
47:34
Fitness. I'm really going to miss that place. Wait, this is I'm
47:44
hearing this for the first time on camera right now. I can't blame her
47:45
saying this. So like somebody said that he goes after married women and to
47:49
like watch out for me, watch out for him. I'm meh, yeah,
47:52
I'm going to talk to him. Hey, is that a fruit?
47:59
Piece of fruit? Are you happy to see me? Oh? Eddie,
48:05
Oh my gosh, so bad? All right, you're so bad, You're
48:10
so crazy, you're so crisy. I can't believe you said that. Kathaka,
48:19
Oh my god, son, up past it you right now. I'm
48:22
so good. That was funny. He's like, oh yeah, somebody told
48:25
me that to like watch out for him, that he has a reputation and
48:30
buried women like you buried the lead Eddie. Yeah, I love it.
48:36
She was like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, after all this
48:37
time, I'm signing me what the fuck? Oh my god? And then
48:43
she's like, he already cheated on her? Did you know? Did you
48:46
know? Eddie? Did you know that Eddie blinkeds twice? If you hard?
48:57
So now? Is that a pickle? Or you just so that you're
49:05
so bad? You're so bad right now? At it? You're so bad.
49:08
I love that he didn't know that he cheated. How is she keeping
49:13
these secrets? Camera? She knows how to wow? I think they're both
49:16
pretty high. A lot things come and go. It's amazing, amazing,
49:22
it's their job. In fairness, it's their job, absolutely and good for
49:27
them. Which let's circle back to the ranch, because we do need to
49:32
talk about them putting on matching pajamas and then eating food by the fire,
49:37
and like Heather bought four weeks earlier to this event, four weeks which they
49:43
put up there on the screen. Yes, four hundred dollars worth of pot.
49:49
Yes, that is some impressive and she's like, I should have brought
49:51
more stacks well, and also for her to be like, I don't do
49:54
it off and I'm like, I think you do it more than we know.
49:59
Oh, that's a lot. I also thought it was interesting that they
50:04
did just a fast montage of them all being high with like the trippy yeah,
50:07
welter not not enough. Well, I wonder if it was just so
50:13
meandering and kind of like dumb. They're like, it's not like when you
50:17
drink and get raged out kind of thing. It's maybe maybe they're like,
50:22
man, we ate them in the housewives just get high because nothing happens when
50:27
they drink. They get pissed. I know it was disappointing, because this
50:30
is what I want to hear. I want to see more of a montage
50:34
of them being like, just is Bison? Like is that a somebody's son?
50:40
Or wait? No, wait did I just say that? Wait?
50:44
Hold on? How long have we been sitting here at this kitchen island?
50:46
Hold on? You know, like saying just the stuff that you it makes
50:51
no sense and then laughing hysterically over nothing. So it kind of tells me
50:55
that they weren't really high or oh do you think they were? Yeah?
51:02
But I think it was just uneventful. There was nothing too, like,
51:07
there was no story happening. It was just fun and I that's my thought.
51:13
But maybe maybe they weren't. How can you not have an on?
51:16
How can you have an uneventful group of people that are stoned? It's impossible.
51:23
Have you been you know, I've been on girls' trips where we've all
51:27
been stoned and have have laughed so hard. We like, yeah, you're
51:32
laughing so hard, but nobody knows why Amy, But I'm just like when
51:37
you're high and it's like, maybe it's hard to make sense of I don't
51:42
know. All I can say is the last thing I remember on the last
51:46
girls trip that I went on in Palm Springs and we just ended up staying
51:51
in one night and getting a bunch of different carry out and doing like edibles,
51:57
and we went on I don't know how we got there, but it
52:01
was about Stallone and another actor and how Stallone ruined his Oh it was Stallone
52:09
and Mel Gibson and how I think Stallone is the one who started the hamster
52:15
rumor. Wait, no, what's Nemel Gibson is in the Hamster Guy.
52:17
It's Richard Gear, So it's Stallone. We went on this whole tirade about
52:22
how Stallone ruined Richard Gear's reputation because of the hamster rumor, and that Stallone
52:30
perpetuated it. And for the longest time during our childhood, we always had
52:36
that rumor in our heads about Richard Gear having a hamster up his ass and
52:43
that Stallone is the one who started it and he couldn't shake it, you
52:45
know, especially before the Internet anyway. That was just one of the topics
52:51
that we discussed that we were laughing hysterically about, Like there's probably you know,
52:55
with interesting people, I can only imagine what we would end up talking
52:59
about. That's the type of stuff. How can they miss that? That
53:02
just tells me like how And then one night Brett and I were talking and
53:07
and we had had some gummies and we were laughing hysterically about what he was
53:12
gonna wear to our daughter's like fifth birthday party, and then it was like
53:15
He's like, I'm gonna wear dress pants and it was like a pool party,
53:20
right, So that was just ended up being very funny to us.
53:22
Of course we were like, hi, but it just these are the moments
53:25
that how can that not be captured? Yeah, well, they had cameras
53:30
rolling because that was an iPhone that was not iPhone footage that we were seeing,
53:37
and yeah, I don't know. I didn't have any guesses that it
53:40
was too meandering and didn't really get us. But then I'm like, well,
53:45
there wasn't that much in the episode that they could have They literally could
53:51
have cut most of that episode if there was something good, and they didn't,
53:54
so well, they didn't even end up staying in the they just came
54:00
back. That was disappointing. That was disappointing, And like, we just
54:06
watched Luanne pull a fucking catfish out of the ground with her bare hands,
54:12
and you you gals can't even spend one night in a glamping tent. That
54:17
was crazy to me. I couldn't believe they wouldn't just be down for that.
54:22
That was disappoint I was disappointed. Disappointed to say the least. Yeah,
54:29
that guy's balls being out on the water raft, that poor twenty three
54:34
year old, Like, oh no, I know. My only hope is
54:37
that he did it on purpose. I was wondering that too. Yeah,
54:43
so what's up with? Okay? So that whitewater rafting thing, though,
54:46
that always looks so dangerous to me. When I'm watching that, I get
54:50
so concerned. How are they staying in their seats? Have you whitewater raft
54:52
before? Is there some sort of belt or foot? No, it's just
54:57
not like where they were in those rappits. I just don't think was that
55:02
it wasn't that bad? No, And you know they're serving it for the
55:07
camera. Keep in mind there's a raft in front of them that really good
55:12
point, you know, like right right right, I think that they are
55:16
maybe heightening a fact. It was very funny to watch though. I love
55:23
that that Taylor really knows her way around to wrapt and she's like totally poaching
55:30
the instructions for the the instructor and she's like, you have to put your
55:35
hand on the top of the ore. And then she was like, we
55:38
have to paddle together, girls, tack gether tag gether girls. I mean
55:46
it was so great. I loved this tailor. I love this tailor.
55:52
And she served up pure tailor when she's like, I should be switching places
55:58
with Tamera because I'm the lightest one here and Tamar. Was that in the
56:01
cut scenes or was that in the Bravo episode where she told Tamara the switcher
56:05
because Tamara's heavier. No, she didn't. She they they only made a
56:09
mention of it too. When Jen was like when Tara said like, why
56:14
is the lightest one over there? And then and then Taylor, rather than
56:19
just being like aha, she's like, oh, yeah you should switch with
56:27
how dare you? I'm so pass you'd said that this is fucking muscle from
56:30
cut at my gem CBD, betch Yeah. That whitewater rafting was amazing and
56:37
then there and Taylor's like, hey, check out that guy wop and I
56:42
love that. Jen's confessional was like it was purple and it was it was
56:50
like traumatic for her, you know, it was poking through at the most
56:52
inopportune times, and it was shriveled and it looked cold and it needed to
56:58
be held, and I just I didn't know what do Like, you should
57:00
be worrying about that ball, you should be worrying about Ryan. Okay,
57:04
let's just get eyes on Ryan. Let's keep your eyes into it. Though
57:07
it seems like when in her confessional, but they I don't know how he
57:14
didn't know. That's what I'm saying, Like, surely with them, they
57:16
don't like make they're making all this crazy meatballs. Well there be be balls
57:22
when we get back. Remember they were like just giving him all right.
57:27
That's why I'm like, did he know? Because he thought very hilarious and
57:30
it would be hilarious if it would be. He had his moment. He
57:36
had his moment. I also love that in the car on the way there,
57:38
Taylor's like I had bandanas and Tara was like, I can't do that.
57:43
My head is small. I was like, I feel you, I
57:45
hear you, I see you, because I have a very small head too,
57:49
And like I totally got what she was saying, but it really was
57:52
like just placed tiny. It was so tiny on top of her head.
57:55
She did it, but did you notice that I did? But like when
58:00
she said that, I was like, well aren't they I mean, you
58:04
can just tie it tighter. That's the point. Well, if you look
58:07
at the way the bandana is sitting, I understood what she was saying.
58:12
It was more like the sorry, it's just like the space between her head
58:22
and like her forehead, though it's not like a Teresa forehead. It's it's
58:27
a small area. So that's why the bandana could only rat like be actually
58:35
brought around her forehead and only be down a couple inches because the top of
58:39
the head is so short or small, whereas like the width, the circumference
58:46
of the head may not be small, which is that's where I'm like the
58:51
oval and the circumference of my head is small, not necessarily from the top
58:57
to my the bridge of my nose. I don't know if this is making
59:00
I'm now having a better understanding because I was like, just tie it,
59:06
but look at this small heady head. But I think that if you look
59:14
at it, you'll see how it's kind of very loose and it's resting upon
59:17
the very tip top of her head. It's as well she should and then
59:27
what do the other girls do? Oh, fly fishing and that Gina falls
59:30
down. She's like, oh, you know, it's a context sport.
59:35
And then those three act like they have never been in water or near gravity.
59:39
They were a wreck and I was like, they're not even pretending.
59:45
They're just like, whoa, look at it. We're on the moon.
59:47
What's happening? They really they That current must have been very strong, because
1:00:00
even at that point Heather was like, oh my. And then Shannon,
1:00:04
well, Shannon does she does yuck it up for the camera. She's got
1:00:08
that Vicky influence, you know what I mean, where you fall over and
1:00:13
you do that physical comedy thing. So so Shannon's really every situation, and
1:00:21
when she's in nature, everything is like the floor is lava. She's like,
1:00:24
Oh, I can't put my left foot, that my right foot.
1:00:35
It's this twister. I don't I do think that, like on the heels
1:00:39
of Crappie Lake, seeing them in that situation actually really made me happy because
1:00:46
you were just saying, we need more of this with the housewives in these
1:00:51
situations, and I felt like both of those activities were very much in line
1:00:57
with your vision of seeing housewives more in those situations, and I know we've
1:01:00
seen it before, but it's the kind of like bullshit ones. It's like
1:01:04
like acts throwing or like you know, you know meditation stuff where it's like
1:01:09
that's boring, it's not active. This was you know, fly fishing.
1:01:14
They were fish out of water situation. And yes, it was a little
1:01:16
corny that they were all falling. But I do give those big rocks under
1:01:22
the water that we couldn't see a lot of credit for for tripping them up.
1:01:27
No you don't, Okay, right, what about the current because the
1:01:31
current seem to be coming in now, darlings, I'm gonna take my hat
1:01:37
off for a second, your bandana off, yeah, put on my flyfishing
1:01:42
visor with my flies in it. I have flyfish, I do flyfish.
1:01:46
And I stop it. Yes, And I was like, what is happening
1:01:51
right now, darlings? What you have? We? Wow? I can't
1:01:55
believe that we're an hour in, And yes we are an hour in.
1:02:00
I mean we're just fine. I'm sure in August where I go, like
1:02:05
where I've broken like went every summer, and it's up way up up up
1:02:08
north, like almost into Canada, and we trout fish and there's why fishing
1:02:15
and reel fishing our eel. But yeah, so I'm watching these scals and
1:02:20
a reel for real fishing are ee l. So you're watching these guys.
1:02:25
Oh my god, give me a play by. What is happening? Okay,
1:02:29
I'm hearing them. Well, I mean like that's I mean, yes,
1:02:32
there's a current and yes, but not not where they were standing.
1:02:37
I mean they were just like up to their knees. They weren't even they
1:02:40
weren't even in to the waiste, which is what those you know, those
1:02:45
waiters are for. Yeah. Yeah, and also you're going to get wet
1:02:51
through that stuff, but that's fine. They maybe they didn't know that.
1:02:53
It was like it's a little unsteady for sure, if you're you know,
1:02:59
but they could handle it. They could ride that damn bowl. They can
1:03:05
handle this. Yes, that's right, Emily. You tell them, you
1:03:07
tell them, darling. Wow. So I think they were. I think
1:03:12
Gina definitely did fall. I think, but but it's kind of like,
1:03:15
here's the thing. I would be very nervous riding a horse because I think
1:03:20
like they do pick up on your tension and like if you're on a horse,
1:03:25
so I I that would make me nervous. So maybe Gina was just
1:03:29
nervous in the river, just walking. I think her fall was legit.
1:03:32
And then I think the other two were like, I'm just gonna lean into
1:03:36
this unpredictable flow and okay, okay, that totally makes sense. I think
1:03:43
you've figured it out. Yeah. I think Gina was like, I don't
1:03:45
know about this current. I got accol dreadies. And then other's like,
1:03:51
this is not a Travis current. Okay, it's not because it's time to
1:03:55
fall on the ground with your housewives friends. Travis, their fishing guide was
1:04:04
pushing eighty and he was fine walking around. I don't know how old he
1:04:09
was, but he was older than them, I think, and he was
1:04:12
fine. Well maybe because they're so skinny and tiny. Oh, I don't
1:04:16
know. I don't know. I have no clue. But judging you know,
1:04:23
to your point, judging from the looks of those boots that go under
1:04:27
the water, you should have had a lot of support and foundation to help
1:04:30
you stand, one would think, one would think, And then there's a
1:04:35
lot maybe was it the lobster to throw him off? I'd be like,
1:04:39
give me that thing, let's go boil it. Sorry, sorry, sorry,
1:04:45
not sorry, Yeah, well, it was still fun to see.
1:04:50
It was fun because I love seeing the fly fishing. That was beautiful.
1:04:54
I can't wait to hear about your trip. Can't wait to see pictures,
1:04:57
can't wait to see you in action. Make sure you get somebody who's videotaping
1:04:59
you fly fishing. I want to see Darling Emily in action. Oh right,
1:05:03
well, well we'll see. We'll see what we can do. Okay,
1:05:06
it's pretty uneventful. If I pretend it's rabbits and I can't get my
1:05:13
footing, that's when it's exciting. So maybe I have to give it up
1:05:15
to them. They didn't get exciting. Otherwise it's pretty boring. Yeah,
1:05:20
well but that's kind of nice to have a nice boring that's peaceful. Yeah,
1:05:27
let's talk about dinner at the ranch. When we're basically talking about the
1:05:30
peach and the pit. But before we before that, Tarmra hates to hear
1:05:34
water from a picture. That was really shocking to me. Yeah, the
1:05:41
most shocking thing that happened in this episode was that Tamra doesn't like to hear
1:05:45
water being poured from a picture. I thought that that was interesting because I
1:05:51
think we all have sounds or something that drives crazy that people don't have any
1:05:58
idea of how that could even be possible. So right, I guess I
1:06:02
gotta give it to her. But I was like, that is fascinating,
1:06:08
and I love the discovery of like nobody else is spoted by that water.
1:06:10
Petra sounds like that, I know else passing like my gem is closing,
1:06:14
but like that patcha I was like, just passing me off. Eddie's like
1:06:19
there's no gonna be no pictures in the gym because Tamra hates the sound of
1:06:24
pictures. Well, I mean, obviously the obvious sounds are like nails on
1:06:29
a chalkboard and like you tentensils on a plate, or like you know what
1:06:34
I mean, people chewing things like that. This one did throw me for
1:06:39
a loop, but I did love her being like shocked that no one else
1:06:42
But anyway, so this whole thing happened with Tamra, and well, Shannon
1:06:49
was very appreciative of like Tamra being like, you know, basically reconstructing their
1:06:55
relationship, which is great. So she's happy about that. And then what
1:06:59
did you think about how other lamenting about her low is that she felt left
1:07:03
out from the blow drying in the dejeen. I think Heather's really sensitive,
1:07:10
but I think like they kind of hit it, or she did that she
1:07:13
does feel like Tamor and Shannon do. I bet in that situation have a
1:07:17
way of making people feel like a third wheel. Yeah. I think Heather
1:07:20
maybe had enough to support what she was saying, but I think she did.
1:07:27
That's a good point. Not enough evidence to show that you are completely
1:07:30
on the outs, But I think we've all been in that situation where there's
1:07:34
like two people who are really hitting it off and they kind of get in
1:07:40
their own bubble and then just by default of their energy loving on each other
1:07:45
so much, you can't help but feel left out, you know. I
1:07:49
mean, we can all relate with that, I think. And also like
1:07:54
Shannon kind of felt a little judged by Heather in the past. They played
1:07:59
that kind of or she talked about that in the interview, like, so,
1:08:01
I don't know if that's in Shannon's head or what. So maybe she's
1:08:05
just guarded with Heather. I think she is, and I can see that.
1:08:11
What's wild is that Heather saying, look, I have two separate relationships
1:08:15
with them, and now that they're back together, how do I navigate that?
1:08:18
And like her being her saying something along the lines of what I would
1:08:24
imagine is after two and a half years of them not talking, Heather has
1:08:28
still continued to talk to both of them, and now she's been there for
1:08:31
them during this and like, now you're leaving her out. Well, they
1:08:35
have a dynamic that doesn't involve you, And I think that Shannon saying like
1:08:40
she doesn't. We're much closer. I mean, right, I mean,
1:08:42
we're much closer than you ever were with her, but so yes, and
1:08:45
I think that like Heather has a point at some point to maybe say something
1:08:49
along the lines of that, but maybe not on this trip, because they
1:08:55
are now just finally coming back together again, and I could see how she
1:09:00
would be a little bit upset because she's like, after all this time,
1:09:03
you're going to have a problem with us, you know, getting back together?
1:09:05
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think I mean
1:09:12
how there doesn't do herself many favors in the maybe like the comment that she
1:09:19
made about isn't it so nice to be here and see how the other half
1:09:24
lives right right right right, So in that moment, I was like,
1:09:29
yeah, I can kind of see what Shannon's talking about, right, Yeah,
1:09:34
Heather does try hard. She tries and we can tell and I don't
1:09:41
want she doesn't want to be left out of with the because she's an OG,
1:09:45
you know. And now Tarma's coming back into this fold and Heather's like,
1:09:49
okay, but I was here. Let's like, you know, divvy
1:09:54
things up equally, and now it's unbalanced because then there's like the OG and
1:10:00
then there's the New gals. And that's why now I understand why Heather chose
1:10:04
Tamra in that fight by the fire and didn't have Gina's back. Remember,
1:10:08
we were like that was so weird because she's trying to get her allegiance and
1:10:13
her loyalty and her relationship back on par with like Tamara and Shannon so that
1:10:17
they can have their thing because she doesn't want to be stuck with the new
1:10:21
girls, you know. And I kind of don't blame her in that regard,
1:10:25
but then it becomes a little less authentic, you know. There's something
1:10:29
about Heather and Tamara too. I think Heather yields to Tamara's alpha in a
1:10:33
way, like she kind of like, I don't know what it is,
1:10:38
but like with Shannon, she kind of bulldozes over Shannon. But there's something
1:10:43
about Tamara that, yes, right, that's it where she's like, I'm
1:10:46
just I really want to get like, yeah, Tamra's kind of the kingpin
1:10:51
right now, right right, and you don't want to be left out of
1:10:54
that, you know, conversation. And that's that's interest. It's such an
1:11:00
interesting dynamic. I wonder where they'll go from here. I mean, I
1:11:02
think that I would like for them to all have authentic fun and relationships,
1:11:06
and I would like to see the three of the OG's have a good time,
1:11:10
you know. I don't want it to be like Tamor and Shannon the
1:11:13
whole time and like Heather outside of here. I'd rather them try to blend
1:11:16
the group, you know. And I think that it was important that Heather
1:11:20
did apologize to Shannon for saying She's like, I didn't realize the ramifications for
1:11:24
what I said, and I apologize, and she was like fully owning like
1:11:27
it was her thing. But I could see where they would get a little
1:11:30
bit put off by her saying that. Yeah, here's a question, because
1:11:36
I think it's official that SAG is on strike, does Heather do the reunion
1:11:41
because she's in SAG. Well didn't you explain it to me that? But
1:11:46
that Reality TV is outside of SAG and it's a separate type of context it
1:11:51
is, But technically I just wonder, like where how far her allegiance will
1:11:59
go to? But there will would be no allegiance if it's reality, right,
1:12:03
That's that's true. But I mean, like that's true. Yeah,
1:12:11
we'll see. I wonder if she'll draw a hard line, but I don't
1:12:15
know. Okay, Well, we need to sift through that because there should
1:12:19
be no line to draw if there's no conflict or is there right? But
1:12:27
I'm just thinking in terms of like when actor like like actors weren't going to
1:12:32
host the award shows because in allegiance with the writers and an award show is
1:12:40
not union. Is that what you're saying? Well, like yeah, like
1:12:43
Drew Barrymore was like, I'm not going to host the MTV whatever because there's
1:12:47
not going to be writers. Uh and yeah, reality is in its own
1:12:51
world. But I just wonder if interesting question. Wow wow wow wow,
1:12:59
Well I mean that how that all breaks down too with Andy and everything.
1:13:01
Gosh, we're gonna have a lot to unpack, we sure are. I
1:13:05
would really like to know the ins and outs that it would be interesting to
1:13:09
get somebody who a darling who knows about the SAG rules and with reality,
1:13:15
that would be fascinating. Yeah, because it is confusing to me. It
1:13:18
shouldn't be, because I mean we both kind of are in that world,
1:13:23
but like, it is confused. But if you break I don't know.
1:13:26
There are so many rules and there's so many loopholes, and then there's also
1:13:30
I mean, there's so many different contracts that can be made outside of the
1:13:34
confines of SAG, but so many people are and rightfully so concerned about the
1:13:41
optics of that and in terms of not crossing a picket line whatever that might
1:13:46
look like to Yeah, I don't know, we'll have to see. Okay,
1:13:51
it might not be about the rules as much as optics, right,
1:13:56
optics. Yeah, sorry, totally the wheel on this. No, No,
1:14:00
I'm so glad that you did, because I am fascinated to find out
1:14:05
more about this. Yeah. When I got that email from Fran Dresher this
1:14:10
morning, strink onthormization, meaning I was like, Okay, it's happening,
1:14:18
and immediately did not think about Heather Dubrow. But thank you for bringing that
1:14:23
up. Well, that is the show for today, darlings. If you
1:14:30
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1:14:42
so much. I appreciate you and you and I will be back next week
1:14:46
Darling and uh and then also just tune in because look, Project Runway recap
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is coming your way to morrow. Okay, well, thank you and hapi
1:14:58
dah everyone hal a die everybody, thank you so much for listening. I
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