Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News - 15th September 2025

Transcript

UK Column News - 15th September 2025 · UK Column Radio

0:08
Good afternoon. Today is Monday the 15th of
0:11
September 2025, just after 1:00. Welcome to UK column news.
0:16
I'm your host, Brian Garish, delighted to have Ben Rubin with
0:19
me in the studio. And Diane Rasmussen will also be
0:22
joining us by live video link. Well, epic events in UK over the
0:30
weekend will Saturday very large protests in London.
0:34
And let's just have a little look at that on screen.
0:37
And as we can see from this aerial picture, a very, very
0:42
large number of people attended the demonstration.
0:46
Estimates vary. I've had some estimates from
0:50
people who were there on the spot saying they thought about
0:54
800,000 of the people have said million.
0:58
Tommy Robinson claimed 3 million, I'm going to stick at
1:03
around that 800 to 1,000,000 people.
1:06
But certainly it was a lot of people and clearly a lot of
1:09
people felt motivated enough to travel into London in order to
1:15
see exactly what was going on and also to meet up with other
1:20
like minded people. What's your estimates, Ben?
1:25
Do you do you go with the Tommy Robertson 3 million or do you
1:29
think that's a bit high? I.
1:31
Think it's probably a bit high and but I think the BBC was
1:35
saying about 100,000, weren't they?
1:37
So somewhere between those two, I know someone on the ground who
1:40
said a million. So I think that's probably about
1:42
right. Well, I think think the BBC was
1:45
about 150,000. Since we're having a discussion
1:49
about these events, let's bring Diane Diane in.
1:53
Welcome, Diane. You were watching a lot of this
1:56
on Saturday, obviously from a distance, but what what was your
1:59
feeling about the numbers? Yeah, I watched the whole thing,
2:04
I think starting from around 11:30 in the morning until until
2:09
it went off around 6:30 in the evening.
2:11
And basically what happened was I watched the first part, which
2:15
was covered by Steve James or Edge of the Matrix, who started
2:18
the live stream, and he was just walking around talking to people
2:21
as he normally does. He's a friend of a UK column
2:24
asking people about their opinions about gender ideology.
2:27
And things aren't necessarily related to what we thought the
2:29
protest was for. So it's very interesting just to
2:32
get a feel from people on the ground.
2:33
And it seemed as though the people who were there generally
2:36
that he spoke to were there for the right reasons or they
2:39
believed they were there for the right reasons in terms of saving
2:42
England, saving the the, the country and, and speaking out
2:45
for women's rights and the other issues that we would expect to
2:48
hear. But it seemed as though that the
2:51
crowds just kept growing and growing.
2:53
And it was really, I looked at several different live streams
2:55
both from the air and on the ground, the official stream on
2:58
Tabby Robinson's ex channel, as well as just some other
3:01
individual streamers. And some of them, it was really
3:04
hard to difficult to see where it was actually coming from or
3:07
who was going or where they were.
3:09
I do know one person, a friend of mine who was there and she
3:13
said that she was stuck on the bridge over the river and there
3:16
were thousands of people both in front of her and behind her and
3:19
they were stuck, they couldn't get anywhere.
3:21
So it does seem as though it would probably be difficult, I
3:24
would imagine, to truly get a a real estimate on the numbers.
3:29
OK, thank you for that. Well, certainly all the reports
3:32
that I had from people who were present said that overwhelmingly
3:36
there was a very friendly atmosphere.
3:38
People were getting on extremely well.
3:41
The trouble was described to me as some bad boys who were off to
3:46
one side doing their own thing. But overwhelmingly for the bulk
3:50
of people there, they were there in a genuine protest, but the
3:55
mood was very friendly. There was also a great mix of
3:58
people, black, white, all other colours, religions, people
4:04
mixing without any problem at all, contrary to the way it was
4:08
reported. And what about yourself, Ben?
4:10
Is that is that the sort of feedback that you had through?
4:14
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
4:16
It was a real mixed, mixed crowd.
4:18
Absolutely. OK.
4:19
So the key question for you, why do you think people were there?
4:23
Well, I think that the concept of Britishness is being
4:27
challenged at the moment in a number of different ways.
4:30
And actually people were very clearly out on the street
4:32
because they wanted to try and reclaim some of their national
4:35
identity. But I would say one of the
4:37
things that really struck me is coming out of it not quite sure
4:40
what national identity was being presented to us.
4:44
That was my overriding sense of it.
4:47
It's a very good point. Well, if that's your opinion,
4:50
Ben, and I think a very credible one.
4:52
Let's have a listen to the business Secretary, Peter Karl,
4:56
who was being interviewed about the demonstration.
5:01
What worries me most is the divisions in our society.
5:04
In other societies and other democratic societies there are.
5:08
It's not even the left and the right at the moment.
5:10
There are communities that are being driven further apart and
5:13
there are figures such as Tommy Robinson that is able to touch
5:16
into a sense of disquiet and and grievance in the community in
5:22
our society. A lot of it was goes back to its
5:25
roots in the financial crisis and the impact that had on
5:27
communities around the country. And we haven't been able to
5:29
bring our communities back together again since.
5:33
So I think these are moments that are Claxton calls to us in
5:37
public life to redouble our efforts to address the big
5:41
concerns that people right across the country have.
5:43
And immigration is a big concern.
5:44
It's a concern that I and the Prime Minister share very deeply
5:47
and we are acting on and other concerns as well.
5:50
But we have to do it in a way that can start to bring
5:52
communities back together again. So you have a demonstration 108,
5:59
sorry, 800,000 people, a million people together and the minister
6:05
describes the problem as being as people being split apart.
6:08
I find that interesting. But According to him, Ben, the
6:11
key problem was financial. Well, yes, and I'm sure it was
6:16
all someone else's fault as well.
6:18
Nothing to do with Peter Carl and Keir Starmer.
6:21
Well, we'll consider that in a minute.
6:22
But yeah, let's reinforce that point because of course other
6:26
reports in the BBC such as this one, leader of the Lib Dems
6:31
saying that, well, all of these trouble with the asylum seekers
6:35
and the hotel hotels, this is all Farage's fault and the
6:39
Tories fault. So this is the cheap political
6:42
blame game. Meanwhile, the unitary, the UNI
6:45
party system that we've got in UK continues to do its own
6:49
thing. I thought it would be worthwhile
6:51
to actually just do a little bit of assessment on what the whole
6:56
point of the rally was. And I found that actually I had
7:00
to go to ChatGPT in order to see what it said.
7:03
And the first point it raised is that the primary thing there was
7:07
opposition to what the organisers and many attendees
7:10
saw as uncontrolled or illegal immigration, which I think is a
7:15
pretty accurate report. But what was the source that
7:18
ChatGPT had to use? Well, surprisingly, it was Al
7:22
Jazeera. Let's go on to the second one
7:25
here because it it said that a key topic for people present in
7:29
London was free speech and national identity.
7:33
The March has also framed their rally in terms of free speech,
7:37
British heritage, national culture and concerns about being
7:40
heard. Thought that was quite a
7:44
poignant point. People think that they are not
7:47
being taken any notice of at the moment and I think they're
7:50
absolutely correct. Where, where was the source for
7:52
this particular one while it was here, Back to Al Jazeera.
7:56
So we've got AI at work and it's so desperate to find out what's
8:01
happening in a million people March in London.
8:04
It's choosing Al Jazeera. Clearly that's telling us
8:07
something about our mainstream media.
8:09
And if I go on to #3 here, it's people reacting to the current
8:15
political climate. And what was the source that our
8:19
illustrious AI used for that? Well, it was the National
8:23
Newspaper. So I found this very interesting
8:26
that AI was struggling to find out what the reports were about
8:32
this massive demonstration in London.
8:35
And of course with the BBC labelling it about 150,000
8:38
people, I suppose we shouldn't be too surprised.
8:42
But if we take apart what was what's really happening and why
8:46
people are really concerned, we can ask this question.
8:50
What is the current political climate?
8:52
I've attempted to put some meat on the bones here that the first
8:56
one I think is we've got warmongering, we've got a
8:58
government ramping up for war whenever possible, wherever
9:02
possible. We've also got destruction of
9:05
the national identity and mass migration is and positive
9:09
discrimination is clearly part of that.
9:13
And significantly this is recognised not only by white
9:17
British people, this is also recognised by migrants who are
9:22
now settled in UK. They realise that mass migration
9:26
is dangerous to all our futures. And This is why at the rally we
9:31
had people of different cultures and backgrounds and colours.
9:35
We've got #3 here the destruction of the male, female
9:38
identity and the family. And of course, the woke culture
9:42
is helping this destruction. And it's that woke culture
9:46
that's being pushed by the government itself.
9:49
If we go on #4 we've got the deliberate sexual grooming of
9:53
children via religious and sex education and the child
9:59
sexuality education which is coming in through UNESCO and the
10:04
World Health Organisation. We've got the suppression of
10:08
free speech, undercover of the Online Harms Bill and a whole
10:13
range of other legislation which has been coming through.
10:17
We've got the division of society by malicious targeted
10:21
media and propaganda. So this is coming from the state
10:26
itself. It's nothing to do with the
10:27
demonstrators. It's coming in from the state
10:31
and if we go on through we can put #7 in here, we've got state
10:36
imposed control by means of fabricated fear.
10:40
COVID lockdown and climate change are two key ones of those
10:45
#8 we've got state facilitated corruption and perversion of
10:49
Westminster civil service and the institutions.
10:53
And if I bring in a #9 here state facilitated destruction of
10:58
the National Health and well being by corruption of the food
11:03
supply and the NHS amongst other things.
11:07
So these are all pretty serious and blatantly obvious policies
11:12
which are coming in from our own government.
11:15
Just summarise this little bit. This actually was the page that
11:19
ChatGPT brought up. So you can see how it appeared
11:22
to me. I'm just going to drop over the
11:25
top of this Gaza and Ukraine because of course it appears
11:28
that this particular rally there were there was positive support
11:34
for Israel and presumably everything it was doing in Gaza.
11:38
And apart from mention of the tragic death of the young
11:43
Ukrainian lady, nothing was really being said about stopping
11:48
the bloodshed in Ukraine. So there was some rather
11:50
interesting undertones. But if I just end this segment
11:55
here, I thought it pertinent to bring up the definition which
11:59
the government is using of extremism.
12:02
We've got one, negate or destroy the fundamental rights and
12:06
freedoms of others, undermine, overturn or replace the UK
12:10
system of liberal parliamentary democracy.
12:14
And three, intentionally create a permissive environment for
12:17
others to achieve these results. So the definition to me of
12:21
extremism seems to fit our own government in the first instance
12:27
much more than it does the demonstrators, the million
12:30
people protesting in London. And if I end on this one here
12:35
from Protect UK, if we have a look at their definition of
12:40
extreme right wing terrorism, of course all of those million
12:45
people on the streets were being branded as extreme right wing by
12:50
British mainstream media are quite disgusting accusation.
12:55
But it seems to me that the label is deliberately designed
12:59
to attack society itself. So I'm putting some complex
13:06
things in that, Ben, but it seems to me the biggest threat
13:09
comes from our own government, not the million people on the
13:12
streets. Not all of the million people on
13:15
the streets. Actually, I think this is, this
13:16
is the issue, right, is that these things get treated by the
13:20
the commentariat and by politicians as, as these
13:23
homogeneous lumps of people where everyone believes the same
13:27
things. And and that's just
13:28
fundamentally not true actually. So there's some people in the
13:32
chat box pointing out, as we'll get into actually the, the
13:35
people behind this heavy Zionist influence, very political, lots
13:42
of conflicts of interest, particularly with some of the
13:44
big money people involved and, and who were featured.
13:49
But the, the, the everyday, you know, man and woman on the
13:53
street, I think most of them were there for the right
13:55
reasons. Absolutely.
13:57
You know, and they, they see their country slipping away.
13:59
They want to go out and do something about it.
14:01
Good on them. Quite frankly, one of the things
14:04
I was particularly happy about looking at this over the weekend
14:07
was that there was no violence, no significant violence.
14:09
No, there were a few arrests, but there was the potential for
14:13
this to go quite badly wrong, actually.
14:15
And it didn't. And I'm glad things were kept
14:18
calm. And obviously one of the best
14:20
people around to help keep things calm is Elon Musk.
14:23
Let's have a little listen to what he had to say.
14:26
Violence is going to come to you.
14:29
You will have no choice. This is a.
14:32
This is. You're in a fundamental
14:35
situation here where you where whether you choose violence or
14:40
not, violence is coming to you. You either fight back or you
14:45
die. You either fight back.
14:48
Or you die. And that's.
14:52
The truth. Today, Elon, I think we're, I
14:55
think the British public are telling the world that they're
14:57
ready to fight back. Good.
15:02
Yes, Come. On Come on Ray Britain.
15:09
Brian just said that's pathetic. I completely agree with you.
15:12
Notice he got really very little reaction there from the crowd,
15:15
actually. But there's Musk saying you've
15:17
got to fight back or die. That's his message.
15:21
Isn't that an extreme right wing message coming from Musk?
15:25
It's I don't know if it's right wing or whatever it is, but you
15:28
know, he's hardly trying to reduce tensions in the country,
15:32
which I think would probably be a good idea given everything
15:34
that's that's been going on. And let's just have a little
15:37
look at his his T-shirt. This really grabbed me.
15:40
You got the little, little one eye symbol there.
15:43
The full T-shirt says, what would Orwell think?
15:46
And I think Orwell would think that Elon Musk is a very
15:49
dangerous and very scary man actually, that that that's what
15:53
I think Alwell would think. This wasn't just limited to to
15:57
masks. There was a lot of incitement
16:00
generally around things like the ISIS flag being attacked by some
16:08
Maori's on stage who'd been flown in for this purpose.
16:11
Again, it's all really stretching the limits.
16:13
Britishness here, you know, like there's a very old mixture of
16:16
different cultures and, and different, different, different
16:19
things happening. And then obviously they went
16:21
after the Palestine flag and this is, this is not necessary.
16:27
This is incitement for me. You know, there are horrific
16:31
things happening in Palestine right now.
16:33
This is a very pro Israel event. Tommy Robinson himself is a
16:38
proud Zionist. You know, it's there is a very
16:41
strong case to be made that that's ultimately who's
16:44
controlling him. And then ultimately, you know,
16:46
he's setting this event up. Should we assume that that's
16:49
who's behind the the this event? I think it's probably quite safe
16:52
to say that it is. Seeing this kind of stuff on
16:54
stage is, is not good for me. And, and, and, and this is and,
16:59
and this just makes it very easy for people on the other side of
17:03
the argument to point out and say, look, violence, look
17:07
hatred. And actually that's it's just
17:10
fundamentally not helpful, right?
17:11
And of course, there was a counter protest, as is always
17:16
the way at the moment, right? There's a protest happening.
17:19
And lo and behold, there is a counter protest happening.
17:23
This is this pattern is repeated every single time one of these
17:26
happen. These things happens.
17:28
I reported on an event in Plymouth earlier in the year.
17:30
Same thing was happening there. I went to an event in Plymouth
17:33
last Sunday. We had exactly the same thing
17:35
happening. You had the flags on one side
17:37
and then you had stand up to racism on the other side.
17:39
Stand up to racism behind this, the March against Fascism, Unite
17:43
against Tommy Robinson. It's all about Tommy.
17:46
Tommy, Tommy. Yeah, He's the figurehead for
17:48
all of this. This was run by or certainly led
17:51
by Narendra Corps. I hope I'm saying that
17:54
correctly. The woman holding the sign up on
17:56
the right hand side, there is a Pakistani woman from Newcastle
18:02
and this is the feminine left wing.
18:04
So this was a women only March. You can just see that it says
18:07
women against the far right on the big banner just behind her.
18:10
So this is the feminine left wing against the supposedly
18:14
masculine right wing. And I think that the Tommy
18:18
Robinson March probably dominated by men.
18:20
I don't think it was all men, but they're setting this up as a
18:23
very deliberate, again, it's another divide and rule, left V
18:26
right, man V women. And this is about stopping
18:29
effective reconciliation in the country.
18:32
That needs to happen in order for us to effectively progress
18:35
past this stuff, right? And stand up to racism.
18:37
We've talked about before, basically directly linked into
18:41
the top of the Labor Party, linked into the military
18:44
intelligence agencies. Very unclear where all the money
18:47
is coming from for them to churn these signs out.
18:50
I mean they're putting hundreds of thousands of these signs out
18:52
on a weekly basis. This we can just see here is
18:57
very closely linked into the unions.
18:59
You got Unison, TUC, UNITE and etcetera, etcetera.
19:03
And we need to have a bit more of a look into this for future
19:06
shows. But to to get the the supposedly
19:12
union aligned sneering in metropolitan liberal progressive
19:15
view on the March. Let's have a little listen to
19:18
Paul Mason. What you're seeing here is
19:26
probably. Oh, is.
19:30
Someone going to? Run.
19:30
A bit of a problem there. What you're seeing here is
19:33
probably the biggest far right demonstration ever held in
19:36
Britain. And I've been among this tribe,
19:39
and I think it's obvious that many of the.
19:41
People here are. Wearing flag as a badge of their
19:46
own white identity and as a mark of hatred of our multicultural
19:51
multinational society. No, there are more progressive
19:56
people than this. What this is, is the radicalised
20:00
mass space of the Reformed Party and the Tories.
20:04
This. Most people live with a voted
20:06
Tory, some mighty voted Labour. But this is by and large a for a
20:11
bean. Working class, explicitly racist
20:17
demonstration and I'm afraid to say it will very likely descend
20:21
into violence when it gets to Whitehall.
20:28
Military intelligence asset Paul Mason talking about the flag as
20:31
essentially being a symbol of hatred for multi ethnic Britain.
20:36
He describes the group as the radicalised mass base of reform
20:40
and Conservative voters and he even used the word plebeian.
20:43
He called them plebs. Isn't that amazing?
20:46
No, it's it's not amazing. Actually, no, it's not.
20:49
Amazing. It tells you a lot about what
20:50
these people, what these people actually think, right.
20:53
And this, the same line of, of, of thought extended to Richard
20:58
Bergen, member of Parliament. This, this tweet here I thought
21:03
was, was quite amazing talking about the fact that we are in an
21:06
incredibly dangerous moment, which I do actually agree with,
21:09
by the way, but probably not for the same reasons that he's
21:11
saying. And essentially he's goes on to
21:13
say we not only face the threat of a far right government coming
21:17
to power for the first time in our history, I guess he means
21:19
reform, but also a violent far right St movement on a scale not
21:24
seen here in decades, if ever. Apparently that's what this
21:27
March was. This is a violent far right St
21:30
movement. And then goes on to say this
21:32
street movement led by convicted criminal Tommy Robinson, who's
21:35
not really the leader of this thing he just happened to
21:37
organise this March, is especially dangerous for black
21:40
Muslim, Jewish and other minority communities.
21:43
So there's plenty of black people there.
21:45
It was definitely anti Muslim. I will certainly say that the
21:48
idea that this is dangerous for Jewish people, I think is
21:51
absolutely crazy because very clearly, you know, the whole
21:54
thing was was avowedly Zionist. And in fact, we had this guy
21:58
Abby Yemeni from Rebel News was wandering around broadcasting.
22:02
He was a former IDF sniper and basically bragged about killing
22:06
children in Gaza, effectively running a Zionist control
22:10
operation, as I would say it. And he may well be the guy who's
22:13
pulling Tommy Robinson's strings.
22:15
I don't know. And just to sum up, this was a
22:18
message that I was sent by a mate of mine who was actually
22:20
there and said it was good. There was well over 1,000,000
22:23
people, the original police report said over 3,000,000.
22:26
MSM said 110,000 all very peaceful majority the police we
22:30
came across real decent smiling chatty right Police came out
22:34
once most people had left so that they can antagonise and get
22:37
reactions for the news. Sounds about right.
22:39
It does, yeah. And thank you very much for
22:42
that, Diane. Let's bring you back with us,
22:44
and what have you got? Yeah, I just have a few comments
22:49
and a little bit more coverage to add to this discussion of
22:53
Saturday. It.
22:54
You know, one thing I want to show is a little bit more from
22:57
the Elon Musk confrontation between himself and and the
23:01
audience, which was along with Tommy Robinson.
23:04
So let's play the rest of that. And then you see how much
23:09
violence there's on the left with our our friend Charlie Cook
23:13
getting murdered in cold blood this week and people on the left
23:18
celebrating it openly. The left is the party of murder
23:25
and celebrating murder. I mean, let let that sink in for
23:32
a minute. That's who we're dealing with
23:36
here. That is who we're dealing with.
23:43
So that brings up a couple of things for me.
23:46
First of all, the right versus left, of course, but she
23:49
repeated several times. And I just want to say, Ben, I
23:51
see your point about what you were saying about the right
23:54
versus left on in this particular situation.
23:56
However, I would like to point out that I am not on the left
23:59
because I am a woman and I want to preserve my own rights as an
24:02
actual woman as opposed to some women who put themselves on the
24:05
left or those who say they are women.
24:06
And that's a very different situation.
24:08
So, but but the problem I think is that when I was seeing some
24:12
of the sort of counter demonstration going on, counter
24:14
protests where, where are these women of actual or trans who
24:19
were sort of trying to take their own position on situation,
24:22
but they were so small in numbers compared to the actual
24:25
official part of the demonstration.
24:27
I think it's interesting also to note the timing of this event
24:31
with this being on the 13th of September.
24:33
So we've got just two days after the anniversary of 911, which is
24:37
still a very sore spot for lots of people around the world,
24:40
particularly Americans. Of course, we had the Charlie
24:43
Kirk situation. And I know there's a lot of
24:46
speculation circulating around the Internet at this point
24:49
around a lot of all of the things surrounding whatever
24:52
happened with Charlie Kirk. But the timing is also, again,
24:56
very interesting. That was on the eve of 911 and
24:59
we we see the all the Charlie Kirk messages were weaved
25:02
throughout the entire day. As I said, I watched all of it.
25:06
We also see here there's another photo of him saying, God bless
25:10
Charlie Kirk, never forgotten. So it's like 911 never forget.
25:14
And this was a man holding this photo of him on the stage behind
25:18
where Tommy and the other speakers who again, of course,
25:21
were as, as has been said earlier, Israeli supporters,
25:25
Zionist supporters, generally speaking, the we're the ones who
25:27
were who were out there. And we also have the death of
25:30
the Iranis Zariska situation, the Ukrainian refugee who was
25:34
supposedly stabbed in the in the North Carolina in recent times.
25:39
So all of this they're they're they're positioning Tommy as the
25:42
hero, as the God. And all of the people who were
25:45
speaking and introducing him throughout the official event
25:48
were saying, oh, we wouldn't be here without Tommy.
25:50
Tommy is he's like this, this God worship almost figure that
25:53
they were making him out to be as though he's just this average
25:57
working class chap who's going to save the country.
25:59
But actually, again, I think that most of people in
26:02
attendance were probably in that situation, situation of, of just
26:05
being, wanting to do what's best for the country and, and
26:08
returning to a more traditional form of, of Britain and England.
26:12
But I also think that if you look at who actually organised
26:15
the event and how it was supported and how an average
26:17
person could not take over London at this level.
26:20
And then to have all of this happening while just the, the,
26:24
the scope of the event, there was video screens all the way up
26:27
and down where you could watch the events of for people who
26:30
couldn't get close to the stage. And there's absolutely no way
26:33
that an individual person who doesn't feel so they can even
26:35
speak up for themselves in the country at this stage would be
26:38
able to take over the capital city at this level.
26:41
So I think there's some questions to ask about what's
26:44
behind this and what's what drove it.
26:46
And, you know, again, what is actually going on in the
26:49
background. So I those people who say what
26:52
they were out for the looking at the Tommy and and trying to help
26:56
him because he's done all these great things for us, I think
26:58
needs to maybe reconsider their position just a bit, Brian.
27:02
Diane, thank you for that. And we'll certainly be talking
27:05
about this more in extra after the news today.
27:09
But key bid is a lot of very, very good people on the streets.
27:13
They need to know exactly what is attacking them in this
27:16
country. And I think getting information
27:19
across is everything that's happening through and with the
27:22
UK's government is the right way to go.
27:26
But we'll do, we'll deal with this more in extra time now.
27:30
Big thank you as always to everybody, wherever you are in
27:33
the world. Who's supporting UK Column?
27:35
We can only do what we do with your financial support and help.
27:41
If you're watching or listening in to us for today's news and
27:45
you're not already a supporter, then if you go to the UK Column
27:48
website and click here to support our work, you can become
27:56
a member or make a donation or both or purchase through the
27:59
shop and we'll be very grateful for that.
28:03
Now tonight at 7:00 PM, we've got a repeat with Germ Warfare
28:09
talking about all big events being fabricated.
28:13
That's with Nick Hudson, which I think is an interesting topic
28:16
and something we should all keep our attention on because nothing
28:19
at the moment is quite as it seems.
28:23
Also UK Column on location in York coming up Saturday the 18th
28:29
of October. Excuse me.
28:32
The key thing is that tickets are now sold out.
28:35
So we're looking at the live stream.
28:38
I'm going to emphasise this, the tickets are now sold.
28:42
Well, hey. Yes, a huge thank you to
28:44
everybody who's bought 1 and we really look forward to seeing
28:47
you. But we're also encouraging
28:49
people to join us for the online view.
28:53
And of course, if you do that, we will be speaking to
28:56
everybody, whether you're with us in person or further afield.
29:01
Diane, you've got this one here for the Food and Health Festival
29:05
coming up on the 28th September. Yes, I've mentioned this in the
29:10
last couple of weeks as well, but just as a reminder that this
29:13
is coming up as sponsored by Commodile Edinburgh, of which
29:16
I'm a member of the executive committee.
29:18
It will be a focus on alternative health solutions,
29:22
local foods, the importance of real food, the importance of
29:26
farming. So there'll be some vendors,
29:28
there'll be some talks throughout the day, including
29:31
Charles Mallett, who is coming up to join us to speak from his
29:34
perspective on farming. So I think it'll be a great day.
29:37
Tickets are free. It's from from 10:00 AM to 4:00
29:39
PM and the location and the post code are right there on the
29:43
flyer, so please join us. Brilliant.
29:46
Thank. Thank you, Diane.
29:47
Well, Ben, back to you and the subject is chaos, the undertone
29:53
of UK. Yes, Chaos Agents again, I think
29:57
I used the same title last week and I'm going to pull together a
29:59
few of the threads that I talked about last week back to this
30:02
guy, Sir Paul Marshall and GB News and I'm going to link him
30:09
to Radical Marxism, Common purpose, old bit of an old UK
30:16
common favourite in there, the Fabian Society, the World
30:19
Economic Forum, Gates Foundation on majority of the UN.
30:22
And actually posed the question once again is what is GB News
30:26
actually up to and how is this guy's interests aligning with
30:30
all of those organisations that I've just mentioned?
30:32
Now I'll use the same image last week, well, I talked about
30:37
Marshall's relationship with George Soros who put money into
30:42
Marshall's hedge fund and essentially created him as as a
30:46
significant financial force in the UK.
30:50
While at the same time funding left wing organisations like
30:54
Black Lives Matter, the International Rescue Committee.
30:57
And the fact that these two wings to the beast are creating
31:02
chaos in our discourse and in our society and ultimately out
31:07
on the streets basically. So the people like Marshall and
31:10
Soros can profit from this. And I also talked about this
31:14
organisation to the Black Black Equity Organisation which was Co
31:18
founded by David Lammy. This is about delivering equity
31:22
which is beyond equality and this is about equal outcomes.
31:26
This is communist. It can only be delivered by a
31:28
totalitarian state intervening in the social order on a
31:31
constant basis. Yeah, it's, it's, this is what
31:35
this is. There's no other way to
31:36
understand it. Black equity organisation.
31:38
And it's directly linked to Paul Marshall actually.
31:41
So I delivered those two separate segments last week.
31:44
This week I'm going to tie them both together.
31:46
Right. So we've got equity, black
31:48
equity organisation, it's trustee board, very interesting
31:54
people. You're going to have a look at
31:55
this. You'll provide a link.
31:56
And what we're particularly interested in today is this chap
31:59
here, this is Rick Lewis, who is a British American mixed race
32:07
guy. And Bieber, he leans very
32:09
heavily on the black bit, right? Obviously he's on black equity
32:12
organisation. He's trading very heavily on on
32:14
this side of his identity. And his background is he's a big
32:18
time real estate investor. He's the executive chairman of
32:21
this thing which is Tristan Capital Management, hundreds of
32:26
millions of dollars of assets under management.
32:29
He's also got a load of other interest to play.
32:32
He runs something called the Black Heart Foundation.
32:35
And he's also importantly for the interests of today, on the
32:39
Board of Governors of something called King Solomon Academy.
32:44
And King Solomon Academy is an Academy school in Marylebone in
32:49
central London, which, if we just look at the landing page
32:52
here, is pushing quite a specific demographic agenda, I
32:57
would say is central London. Let's have a look at the little
33:01
girls on the front page of the website here.
33:03
And this is run by Arc Schools. Yeah, which is, I think, quite
33:11
well known to us. We've covered it on the column
33:12
before. And Arc Schools run a lot of
33:15
these academies around the UK. This is the Arc Schools website.
33:19
And who's on the board of trustees for Arc Schools?
33:22
Paul Marshall and also Ian Waste as well, which is the Marshall
33:28
Waste hedge fund that George Soros helped create to bring it
33:33
back to where we started. It's interesting how the big
33:37
money and the hedge funds are always somewhere there in the
33:40
background. Indeed, it is so poor Marshall
33:43
through radical Marxism, and now we're going to take him on to,
33:48
oh, actually, no, before I go ahead, the the the gentleman I
33:52
was just talking about, Rick Lewis is also on the board of
33:57
the Earth Shop Prize, which is Prince William's big
33:59
sustainability play and that has done work with Common purpose at
34:03
the end of last year. So it's LinkedIn there as well.
34:06
Also, Marshalls is working with the LSE, amazingly so London
34:10
School of Economics, which was founded by the Fabian Society
34:13
back in 1895 S the LSE is a Fabian Society organisation on
34:19
this. They're hammering, hammering out
34:21
a new world apparently. And you know, this just takes us
34:25
directly into Arch Fabian and Tony Blair and half of the
34:30
Labour cabinet in all, every single Labour Prime Minister
34:33
that's ever served as Prime Minister of the country.
34:38
And Marshall, he's very closely linked to them.
34:42
He's been delivering lectures for them.
34:45
This one which provide a link to was actually given.
34:49
This was an interview by Manoush Shafiq, who's just been
34:52
announced as chief economic adviser to Keir Starmer.
34:55
And this is part of his role, formal role at the LSE running
35:00
something called the Marshall Institute.
35:01
And he's actually built a whole huge building for the LSE,
35:06
right? So it's not some kind of casual
35:08
relationship that he has with the line of School of Economics,
35:11
which was founded by the Fabian Society.
35:12
He's actually spending 10s, potentially hundreds of millions
35:15
of pounds building physical infrastructure.
35:18
This is this is the Marshall Institute.
35:20
The Marshall Institute's particularly interested in
35:22
social impact, which is the transformation of society.
35:27
That's literally what this institute has been set up for
35:31
and it is run by Go to the People page.
35:33
This guy was one of the directors, Kieran Boyle, who is
35:37
a very, very, very naughty boy into a lot of very bad things.
35:40
Mr Boyle, who, amongst amongst many things, is a young global
35:44
leader of the World Economic Forum.
35:47
Yeah, this is shadow government. Effectively this is the
35:51
powerhouse running out of sight of most of the public.
35:56
It's there when you go looking for it, but it's something which
35:59
needs to be brought to the surface if we're going to be
36:02
able to explain what is causing all this mayhem and chaos in UK.
36:07
Absolutely. And I would certainly imagine
36:10
that the vast, vast, vast, vast majority GB News viewers, I have
36:14
no idea and would object quite strenuously to the idea that
36:19
Paul Marshall is working with like Equity Organisation and the
36:23
World Economic Forum. Because these are the World
36:27
Economic Forum particularly. I mean, these are the bad guys,
36:29
right? And surely if you're a
36:31
nationalist, GB News, you should be protecting the interests of
36:34
the country, but actually working behind the scenes and
36:37
actually hand selecting. Sure.
36:39
Paul Marshall was intimately involved in finding and hiring
36:42
this guy. Kieran Boyle knows exactly what
36:45
he's about. Make that make sense?
36:46
You can't. Then finally, back to the GB
36:49
News website. Let's have a look at their
36:52
investors. Lagartum describes itself as a
36:56
global partnership with a mission at its core.
36:59
And you know, some classic corporate guff.
37:02
Go to their website. They're a team of people bound
37:05
together by shared desire to make the world better for
37:07
everybody. Apparently it's basically a slug
37:09
of tax efficient money based in Dubai, wanting to change your
37:15
life without your permission, quite frankly.
37:18
Run by these people. Mark Stollison, Alan McCormick,
37:21
who's actually the chairman of GB News.
37:24
So this, this Lagarten thing, he's not just funding it.
37:28
He's also got executive responsibility for the how the
37:30
how The thing is being run to other investors.
37:33
Philip Vasilu, Christopher Chandler, all fascinating.
37:36
We don't have time to get into it in a huge amount of detail.
37:39
How did Lagarten go about transforming the world?
37:42
They have these three funds, Luminos Fund, the end fund, the
37:45
Freedom Fund. And where does that take us to
37:49
straight into this world, Phil. Melinda Gates Foundation on the
37:53
GR Network, UNICEF Children's Investment Fund Foundation,
37:56
which is Chris Hoehn, another Blair ally, and ultimately the
38:00
US State Department, amongst many, many, many others.
38:03
Yeah, and that's who Paul Marshall, the founding investor
38:09
of GB News, owner of Unheard, owner of The Spectator, is
38:12
directing a lot of his time, money and attention in the
38:14
background. Ben, thank you very much.
38:17
Many, many questions there. We'll talk a little bit more in
38:21
extra on this one as well, but this is the key to understanding
38:24
what is unfolding inside UK. The idea that the government in
38:28
Westminster is controlling the country is becoming more and
38:32
more laughable. It's clear that these powerful
38:36
organisations are operating under the surface in their
38:39
networks and of course they can only do it on the scale.
38:43
They are doing it by having, by the fact they have access to
38:47
huge amounts of money through these private hedge funds and
38:51
others. But we, we'll continue to keep
38:54
lifting the lid on it. This is the sort of information
38:57
that the million people on the streets of London need to
39:00
understand because what's happening to them, what they're
39:04
experiencing is more complicated than the simplistic message
39:09
being put across. Well, if we're concerned about
39:13
how the government operates, it was the Daily Express headline
39:17
which really caught my eye today.
39:20
It says Khan must quit over grooming failure.
39:24
And this is about a whistleblower revealing the
39:26
horrific extent of capital rape, gangs and demands.
39:31
Now, when I read the small text on screen, I was very interested
39:36
to see that the whistleblower was in fact former Met detective
39:40
John Wedger, a man who the UK column knows extremely well.
39:45
And we've done a number of interviews with John.
39:47
Let's just remind ourselves of what he was talking about.
39:51
Now remember, this is a former Met policeman who discovered
39:56
widespread child abuse in London.
39:59
Children being taken out of the protective care system.
40:05
Given drugs, prostituted via various groups, but when he
40:10
brought a report together to take the lid off what he saw
40:13
happening, the police turned on him.
40:16
This is just a brief quote from what John Wedger has had to say
40:21
back in 2018. What happened from the time that
40:26
you whistle blew on this, this really outrageous abuse of
40:31
children in London? Well, I mean, like I mentioned
40:34
in our audio interview, I generally thought that soon as I
40:38
whistle blew that things would start going in the right
40:40
direction. I thought I'd get the back in.
40:43
I mean as well, I mean I'm coming forward in respect to
40:47
some really, really horrendous and serious crimes.
40:50
Having worked as an investigator for many years and realised the
40:54
protection that we would afford our victims, our informants and
40:58
our witnesses of crime, I thought the same would be
41:00
afforded to me. And it was a total opposite.
41:04
I was also warned by other police whistleblowers that I was
41:07
put in contact with. And it's namely Lenny Harper who
41:10
exposed the hot de la grin, Maggie Oliver who was the one
41:14
who sort of brought forward about the, the Rochdale child
41:18
abuse cover ups. And they both said the same
41:20
thing, that they're going to come for you and they'll come
41:23
hard. And they did.
41:25
And the, the onslaught was just, it was just unbelievable.
41:29
But what was said to me and by my sort of OCU commander at the
41:34
time, and he turned and said, you know, you're looking at you
41:39
carry on. You're looking at losing your
41:41
home, your job and your children.
41:43
And as the years prevailed, you know, the next three years that
41:48
I went through this campaign of bullying against me, they.
41:52
Were led led by the Metropolitan Police.
41:54
Yeah, solely led by the Met Police.
41:57
The words were predicted because whoever was behind it, I nearly
42:02
lost my home because I was I was.
42:04
My wages were stopped. They tried on three major
42:11
occasions. Each time there was 3 offences I
42:15
was accused of, which was said to me by both Maggie and Lenny.
42:20
Look, they'll serve you what I call gross misconduct, which
42:23
would each one would have caused me to lose my job and each one I
42:26
would have a dual purpose of being an internal investigation
42:30
also would be passed to the Crown Prosecution Service.
42:33
So I nearly lost my job on 9 occasions.
42:37
And also, if I can elaborate at some point that there was a
42:42
campaign because I was bringing up 4 kids on my own to sort of
42:46
undermine my role as a parent. This is quite an extraordinary
42:53
interview with John Wedger and the key point here is that when
42:57
he as a police officer tried to expose the institutional abuse
43:03
of children, which included the local authorities and so called
43:07
care homes, it was the police and those institutions which
43:11
turned on him. So what we see is that the whole
43:14
structure permitting the abuse of children, whether it's via
43:18
Asian gangs or not, the structure is the structure of
43:23
abuse. And this is so important for
43:26
people to grasp that the rape gangs that have been made such a
43:31
a a big thing off, particularly by Tommy Robinson, are one small
43:35
subset of a system which can only exist, an abuse system,
43:40
which can only exist by virtue of the fact that the
43:43
institutional system, including the government, including local
43:48
authorities, including the police, is itself corrupt.
43:52
So in the just hold it up for you.
43:55
This is the actual paper double page spread inside on this
44:00
article. But of course the Daily Express
44:02
says, well it's only Sadiq Khan that's the problem when the
44:06
reality in John Wedger's testimony is the whole system,
44:11
including politicians and Westminster and the local
44:15
authorities and the police were all involved in the cover up of
44:19
child abuse. Why?
44:21
Because they are part of that abusive system.
44:24
Now let's just remind ourselves that a couple of days ago I
44:28
highlighted the fact that Harriet Harman had been called
44:31
forward to produce a report on sexual harassment and abuse
44:36
within the the legal system amongst barristers.
44:41
This was the actual BBC report where a lady was complaining
44:44
that she'd been molested actually by a barrister and
44:49
Baroness Harriet Harman Casey had been booked forward in order
44:53
to produce a report. Now we reminded our audience
44:57
that of course Harman could not be considered a safe pair of
45:01
hands in any way due to her history with history with
45:07
support towards the Paedophile Information Exchange, where we
45:12
asked very clearly was she a safe pair of hands.
45:14
And we pointed out that the National Council for Civil Civil
45:18
Liberties, which she she was part of, continued to defend
45:24
having Π as a member. And as late as September 1983
45:29
and an NCCL officer was quoted in the Daily Mail saying that
45:33
the group was campaigning to lower the age of consent to 14.
45:38
Now you've just heard an ex policeman, John Wedger speak.
45:42
Let's have a listen to what's Bill Maloney, a man who was
45:47
abused in the so called care system along with his siblings,
45:50
had to say to Harriet Harman. Well, I'm going to get the other
45:58
side. OK, Harriet.
46:03
Right. If I can just give you one
46:04
minute. We're talking about child abuse.
46:06
We're just about to talk to you about the cuts and how it's
46:09
going to affect child abuse. Harriet, you don't want to talk
46:11
about child abuse. I understand that, Harriet.
46:15
But you've got you're here to talk to people on the street and
46:17
we represent. So Harriet Harman doesn't want
46:20
to talk to us about child abuse today.
46:22
Say that. OK.
46:23
At the moment she doesn't. Well, that's what he said to me.
46:26
I gave her a chance. I gave her a chance.
46:29
Mind your own business. Let's go again, let's go again.
46:32
Let's go again. Chop, chop.
46:35
You gotta get the face, Get the face.
46:46
Harrier That's common assault. You'll get arrested for that.
46:49
I'm. A.
46:51
Woman Harrier get on me Harrier. Harrier.
46:57
I need to pussy on this. Harriet, why won't you talk to
47:00
us about child abuse? Harrier?
47:02
You're part of the you're part. Of the government.
47:04
But don't touch me because that's don't you just touch me,
47:07
right? So Harriet, you are not Harriet
47:10
is not willing to talk about child abuse and what how are the
47:12
cuts? How are the cuts going to affect
47:15
child abuse? How are the cuts?
47:17
How are the cuts going to affect child abuse, Harriet?
47:20
Harriet. Harriet.
47:23
Harriet. How are the cuts?
47:25
How are the cuts going to affect child abuse, Harriet, how are
47:29
very sorry? She's talking to people who've
47:31
come here. So, okay, so Harriots going to
47:34
the police officer here and we do carry a press pass and
47:38
Harriet Harman does not today wish to talk to us about child
47:43
abuse. Okay, thank you very much.
47:46
Thank you, officer. That was Harriet Harman.
47:49
She didn't want to talk to us about child abuse and I think I
47:52
know why. In 1978, when she became a
47:54
solicitor, she urged ministers to make it legal for people to
47:59
be allowed to take sexually explicit images of children.
48:04
And she wanted that to be made legal as long as the children in
48:07
the images hadn't been harmed or abused.
48:10
So that's Harriet Harman. Harriet Harman was in favour of
48:14
making sexually explicit images of children and she urged
48:19
ministers to do that. So maybe that's why Harriet
48:22
Harman didn't want to talk to us about child abuse.
48:24
Thank you very much. So my question is that if this
48:31
lady's been promoted by the government in order to
48:34
investigate abuse, how do how do they see her?
48:37
Now let's have a look at how she describes herself.
48:51
Well, to win a lifetime achievement award in law, it
48:54
feels like such an honour and a privilege, and even more so to
48:57
be amongst all these women who've been nominated for and
49:01
winning awards in every different aspect of the law,
49:04
Especially as because it's not so long ago that really there
49:08
were hardly any women in the law.
49:10
So these women are all inspiring pioneers.
49:15
So the key point here, and it's a very simple point, is if these
49:19
are the types of people that are not only in government, but
49:23
they're helping to control how other people are educated and
49:27
trained in serious positions as barristers, for example, is it
49:31
any wonder that the country is at the point of breakdown?
49:36
And if we come, we come back to John Wedger there in that expose
49:41
article, clearly describing that the child trafficking system is
49:46
run through government itself. We're not talking about an Asian
49:51
system. We're talking about a system
49:53
that operates and did operate through a largely white ruling
49:58
class, both politically and through the wider establishment.
50:02
We'll discuss this more. Over to you, Ben.
50:07
Over to Diane I. Think.
50:08
Oh, I beg, I beg your pardon, Diane.
50:10
I've spoken enough. Right.
50:11
Well, no, OK, getting a little bit, getting a little bit
50:16
passionate on that one. And I think it's justified,
50:19
absolutely. It's justified, yes.
50:21
Diane, of course, you're on the hot subject of UNESCO and what
50:25
it's up to in its indoctrination.
50:30
What's the word indoctrination capacity?
50:35
Something like that. Yes, I, I would, I mentioned
50:38
last week that I would do some more investigation into the
50:41
digital Education Week that took place in in Paris with UNESCO
50:46
the earlier this month. But first I want to go back to
50:50
2023 when this this report was published.
50:53
This is called guidance for Generative AI in Education and
50:56
Research. So this was kind of one of the
50:59
first things that we saw with UNESCO trying to look at how AI
51:03
would be used in education. So we look at what it said and
51:07
and again, these are all very long reports, as is my typical
51:11
habit, I have read these reports so that nobody else has to and
51:15
what this says for just some quotes from a few of these
51:18
reports that I'll go through. This says that it is going
51:21
toward a human centred approach to the use of generative AI.
51:25
Quote The guidance which is this policy document which is many
51:29
many pages, stresses the need for educational institutions to
51:33
validate generative AI systems on their ethical and pedagogical
51:37
appropriateness for education. It calls on the international
51:41
community to reflect on their long term implications for
51:44
knowledge, teaching, learning and assessment.
51:46
So this was 2023. These tools, the educational
51:50
tools were, were just starting to come out.
51:53
So then we come into 2025 where they've obviously been doing a
51:57
lot of work for the past two years.
51:59
This is the event again that I mentioned last week, Digital
52:02
Learning Week 2025, which was called AI and the Future of
52:05
Education Disruptions, dilemmas and directions.
52:09
So if we just take a little bit from the synopsis of this
52:12
Digital Learning week, that is from what I just shared in the
52:15
slide, it says that this is charting pathways for equitable.
52:20
So again, there's that word equity, which is not the same as
52:22
equality, of course, ethical and human driven AI integration and
52:27
education, ensuring technology serves as a force for inclusive
52:32
progress. So there's that word inclusive
52:34
once again. We see these words over and over
52:36
again as when we look at globalist language around
52:39
education, which of course ties to Agenda 2030 and the
52:42
Sustainable Development Goals. So if we go on from there, I, I
52:46
want to talk a little bit about the opening session.
52:50
So this this is an AI generated image of of this lady here.
52:55
Her name is Stefania Giannini. She is the assistant director
52:58
general for education at UNESCO. When she opened the conference
53:03
on the 2nd of September, it was live streamed that it's now
53:05
available on YouTube. If you want to watch the whole
53:07
thing. She starts with a sort of AI
53:10
image of herself with her voice in the background and sort of
53:15
opening up and saying AI has become a new actor and it's the
53:18
future of education. It's disruptive.
53:21
And then suddenly by somehow some sort of miracle, Stefania
53:25
herself, the actual person, walks out on the stage.
53:28
So how about that? That was surprising.
53:30
She makes a joke about how that AI Stefania was really the real
53:33
Stefania and she was just the fake one, the real 1.
53:36
So there's our inversion of language once again.
53:39
And she goes on to give a speech about talking about the use of
53:43
AI in education. So I just want to read a little
53:45
bit of what is essentially the transcript from part of this
53:49
talk. And she says, for example, let's
53:51
meet a student. Cristiano is a secondary school
53:54
student in Ghana. His school uses Rory, which is
53:57
an AI tutor on WhatsApp. And Cristiano can ask questions
54:01
at any time in his only language, which is, which is a
54:03
very important, not obvious point.
54:06
And for the first time, we can say a student has something like
54:09
a private tutor in his pocket. This is a revolution, really.
54:14
Now move to Princeton and meet Professor Bernard.
54:17
He is a colleague teaching history of science.
54:19
He actually asked his students to use AI on a test and the
54:24
system could analyse arguments, connect different ideas, all the
54:28
dots through history and society, and also engage in what
54:31
I would define as a Socratic dialogue interaction with the
54:34
students. He described this experience
54:36
quoting his words. Exhilarating, terrifying, even
54:40
sublime. So she goes on to give these
54:43
examples and talks about how AI is this major disruptor in
54:46
education and what it's going to do.
54:48
And so it, it raises a lot of questions which I will continue
54:51
to investigate. The obvious one first of all for
54:55
me is what are teachers for? What is the point of the teacher
54:58
if AI is going to be in the student's pocket or professors
55:03
are asking students to use AI to actually do their exams?
55:07
Well, there's a, a couple of ideas about this.
55:10
One is that, and I experienced this myself before I left the
55:14
education sector, is that the idea is that AI is apparently
55:18
going to take over the easy stuff.
55:19
So teachers teaching facts, for example, is going to be taken
55:23
over by AI to allow teachers to do.
55:26
And this is actually in some of the policy documents that I've
55:28
got coming up next. If we look at these next very
55:32
long policy documents that were published just this year, AI and
55:35
the future of education disruptions, dilemmas and
55:38
directions. So this is a very long book with
55:41
several chapters written by different people.
55:43
What does this say in it? It says, well, for example,
55:46
shaping the use of AI in education through collective
55:49
dialogue. So in the introduction, this is
55:52
it says that it explores the philosophical, ethical and
55:55
pedagogical dilemmas posed by destructive influence of AI in
55:59
education, bringing together insights from global thinkers,
56:02
leaders and change makers. The collection challenges
56:05
assumptions, surfaces frictions, provokes, provokes contestation
56:10
and sparks audacious new visions for equitable.
56:13
There's that word again, Equitable human machine Co
56:16
creation. So now we're starting to see
56:18
humans and machines working together.
56:20
We're this is not a teacher and a student.
56:22
This is not students working together.
56:24
This is machine and people working together for equitable
56:28
Co creation, creating together with machines.
56:31
So what does that sound like? Does that sound like
56:33
transhumanism? Potentially We can leave it
56:35
there with that topic, but what it does say is that teachers are
56:38
going to be used for human development relating to
56:42
students. This involves of course the
56:44
topic of social emotional learning, which needs to be a
56:47
few other segments I think I will need to do in the future.
56:50
But essentially social emotional learning is one of the things
56:53
that we are fighting against in curriculums across the West,
56:55
which involves these 5 main points, self awareness, self
56:59
management, social awareness, relationship skills and
57:03
responsible decision making. So now teachers are taking over
57:07
the things that really parents should probably be doing and not
57:10
necessarily being left up to the schools.
57:12
They also put one other document that they produced for the, I
57:17
guess the results of this conference or before this
57:18
conference is called AI in education Protecting the rights
57:22
of learners. This says that they are
57:24
safeguarding the right to education in the digital era.
57:28
Quote, the rapid digitalization of education accelerated by the
57:32
COVID-19 pandemic. So there's that again.
57:35
And the development of generative artificial
57:37
intelligence is reshaping education and learning.
57:40
These advancements also come with challenges, including the
57:43
risks of exacerbating existing inequalities, privacy and safety
57:47
concerns, and emerging issues relating to ethics, governance.
57:51
And there's that word again, equity.
57:53
This report emphasises that all efforts must prioritise a human
57:56
centred and rights based use of digital technology to benefit
58:00
all learners. Now what I will say about the
58:02
idea of right to education, on the surface of course that
58:05
sounds fabulous. Of course we want children to
58:07
have whatever education they need.
58:09
But when we look at things like the UN Convention on the Rights
58:12
of the Child, it basically gives children, it does give children
58:16
the same rights as adults, which could then lead to things like
58:19
consent to viewing inappropriate content, looking at, you know,
58:23
the sexualisation of children potentially, you know, child
58:27
abuse, sexual child abuse. And that opens it up because
58:30
children have the same right to do whatever adults do according
58:33
to this particular piece of documentation.
58:35
So we need to continue to look at this.
58:38
Diane, thank you very much. And we've got a little bit of
58:42
amusement to end on. Thankfully, I think we need it
58:46
today. This was an article that was in
58:50
BBC Earth. It was published on the 5th of
58:53
September and I put this on my Facebook page a few days ago and
58:57
it's created quite a bit of discussion from some of the UK
59:00
column audience that follow me on Facebook.
59:03
The, The article is titled How Eating insects became a
59:06
Conspiracy Theory. And so it, the, the headline
59:10
underneath that sort of the sub headline secondary headline says
59:14
insect protein is healthy and sustainable, but it is now also
59:18
at the centre of a far reaching conspiracy theory.
59:21
So if they're staying on the one hand, it's healthy and
59:23
sustainable, but it's also part of a conspiracy theory, which is
59:26
the case. And what's really interesting
59:28
about this article, it's quite long and I would encourage
59:31
people to look at it themselves because there's too much that we
59:33
can, we can't discuss here at our time left.
59:36
But it does talk about the World Economic Forum and the Great
59:39
Reset, which they claim in the article was an effort to reduce
59:42
global inequality and advanced environmental initiatives during
59:46
the COVID-19 pandemic. So whatever they were doing
59:49
while we were locked up in our houses.
59:51
But to conspiracy theorists, they say it was proof that they
59:54
were trying to use the pandemic as a way to reorganise society,
59:58
according to the ADL Centre on Extremism.
1:00:01
And it goes on to say that the WF did in fact publish an
1:00:04
article saying that insects are more sustainable than meat, both
1:00:07
in terms of tackling climate change and food insecurity.
1:00:10
And it goes on to explain from Professor Steven Lewandowski
1:00:14
from the University of Bristol how to fight conspiracy
1:00:17
theories. And that I've read a lot by him.
1:00:19
He's a professor of cognitive science.
1:00:21
And what he said was to the advice to people is that you
1:00:24
have to keep pushing your family.
1:00:26
So he said, quote, you're not going to be successful if you
1:00:30
say, Uncle Bruce, you're crazy. Don't believe this utter
1:00:33
nonsense. But instead, you can ask what
1:00:35
functions your beliefs serve and why are you believing this.
1:00:38
And he says it's not the kind of thing that you can do over a
1:00:40
single dinner conversation, apparently.
1:00:42
So I think some people might have some workout for them if
1:00:45
they have an Uncle Bruce who is a conspiracy theorist.
1:00:48
So there's some tips for you. OK, Joanne, thank you very much
1:00:53
for that. We're going to leave our viewers
1:00:56
today with a lovely image which you took countryside into the
1:01:01
far, far distance. Just a quick description, Diane.
1:01:07
Yeah, this is Heartside Pass, sort of up here in the north of
1:01:11
England. I didn't take the soda, but I
1:01:13
took one very similar to it. But the weather was terrible
1:01:15
when I was up there yesterday. But it's over 1900 feet.
1:01:18
You can see the Lake District. You can see the Solway for if
1:01:21
you can maybe see South of Scotland and it's very high and
1:01:25
very beautiful. And yesterday was very cold and
1:01:27
windy. But I just want to say a
1:01:29
reminder to our viewers to get out there and enjoy nature and
1:01:32
just remember that the world is out there for you to explore and
1:01:36
enjoy and, and not to get yourself too caught up into all
1:01:39
of this because it's best for all of us if we have a little
1:01:42
bit of a break now and then. Brilliant.
1:01:45
Thank you very much for that, Joanne.
1:01:47
Thank you also, Ben. And I'll just end by saying that
1:01:50
if you're one of the, we'll say, the million people who turned up
1:01:54
in London to demonstrate about things, you're concerned about
1:01:58
what's happening to your country.
1:02:00
Well done and a special well done.
1:02:03
If you were there and enjoyed a social day with people in a well
1:02:08
behaved way. And I'm sure that was 99.99% of
1:02:12
those present. So we'll end on that positive
1:02:15
note for members of UK column. We'll be back for UK column
1:02:19
extra in a few moments. For everybody else that's joined
1:02:22
us for the news, thank you so much.
1:02:25
Share our material and we'll be back with another news on
1:02:28
Wednesday at 1. See you then.
1:02:31
Bye bye.