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John Street interviews Rob Malcom: Episode 24 Restoring Houses, Restoring Lives · Revolution of Purpose Podcast

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Welcome to the Revolution of Purpose Podcast. I'm your host,
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John Streit, and each week we bring you conversations with thought leaders,
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entrepreneurs, and individuals who have aligned their life
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with purpose and created extraordinary results. So I'm going to live through
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it and accept it radically with grace and hope and love. I mean,
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I would be proud to be in this household. It was an honor. I had
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so much fun. Tune in every Monday for the Revolution of Purpose
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solo show and every Thursday for Revolution of Purpose Conversations.
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Welcome back to another episode of the Revolution of Purpose podcast,
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where we believe that your purpose isn't something you find,
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it is something you awaken to. And today's
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guest has one of the most remarkable transformation stories that I've ever
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heard, and I'm sure that you've ever heard. Rob Malcolm
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has flipped over 400 homes, and he has been involved in over
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1,200 real estate transactions. Today, he coaches investors
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across the country through his Rise Up Renovation Empire community,
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teaching people how to profitably flip houses in virtually
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any market. But that is only part of his story.
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You see, years ago, Rob was homeless. He was addicted
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to drugs and alcohol. He was sleeping in his car, sleeping under bridges.
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But today, he and his wife Shannon not only own
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a successful real estate business, but they've become— they have
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become known for restoring neighborhoods,
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restoring lives, and giving hope to people who feel like their
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best days are behind them. Their own journey of transformation
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became the inspiration for their book, The Long Way
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Still Gets You There. And that reminds us that our past
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does not have to determine our future. Oh, amen. So Rob,
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welcome to the Revolution of Purpose podcast. I'm so glad you're
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here, my friend. Dude, what a great intro, bro. I mean, we're done. Thank you,
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man. That was good. I know. Thanks for coming. That was a good episode.
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Dude, thanks for having me, man. I'm so glad you're here.
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I'm excited to be here. Well, I'm excited to have
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you here, man. I'm sure the viewers are excited. If you're watching this on YouTube
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or if you're listening on Apple, Spotify, wherever you're listening
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right now, you're in for a treat today because I know Rob well.
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I have heard him speak many times and he is indeed inspirational.
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So, Rob, I'd love to start the this podcast with the same question
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every time I do an interview. And it is this: who are
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you today that your younger self would be proud
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of? Oh, man, you took me off guard there.
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Caught me off guard. Who am I today that my younger self
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would be proud of? I mean, honestly, it's every
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day that I wake up and what my wife
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and I are doing right now and the amount of people that we're
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helping, I think my younger self would
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be like, wow. Like, when I was young, everything was
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about me. It was just me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Everything was about
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me. And, you know,
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now because we own this brokerage, we have like 54
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realtors at our brokerage, and we're able to help them see and help
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them figure out what their dreams are even, right? And help them accomplish
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them. And then on my coaching platform, I'm able to do that as well.
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So I think that's probably, probably it, the amount
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of people that I'm able to help now in this
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part of my life. My younger self would be super proud of that.
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That's awesome. That is awesome. Well, there would be good reason
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to be proud for sure. So a lot
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of people, most people who are watching this may not have heard your
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story before. So I just want you to kind of take us back a little
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bit and tell us, who was Rob before real
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estate? Yeah, how far back do we go? Not necessarily
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first grade or anything, but, uh, you know, who was Rob maybe in his 20s
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on up? Yeah, so, you know, in my 20s,
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um, I was still in the Marine Corps. And what's crazy is, you know,
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we, we look at, I think, as a whole, as a as a whole,
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we look at Marines and we're like, oh man, they've got it together.
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And to be honest, I was a Marine and I had none,
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nothing together. I was an active drug addict
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in the Marine Corps, a very active alcoholic in the Marine Corps.
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And so in my 20s, I was getting by because I could have
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real shiny boots and perfectly pressed uniform,
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right? And I could be on time for everything, but I was a massive drug
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addict and alcoholic during those years. And what happened
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there is I just didn't have, I mean, I had a
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lot of structure because of the Marine Corps, but I didn't, I was young and
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didn't have a lot of like really good people above
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me telling me, hey man, that's not right, or hey, you shouldn't be doing this,
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right? And so I was just kind of floating as a young person.
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And then after that, I ended up getting
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a job, get this, John, I ended up getting a job with McDonnell
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Douglas, and I was like young, like 25 years old.
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And I went from making in the Marine Corps, whatever it was, $400 every
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2 weeks as an E-3 or whatever, to making
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like $27 an hour. And this is in the mid-'90s,
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right? Early to mid-'90s. I went overnight,
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rich in my head, you know what I mean? And so I was living out
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in the desert in a little town in Nevada,
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and that just fed my everything
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that I had going on that was, that was bad. It fed all that.
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So young person, now I own 3 cars, I have a
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house with a 3-car garage, brand new, had it built out there.
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I'm single, I'm able to do anything I want to do.
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So all the way up through, man, my mid-30s, I was
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still running like a crazy maniac. And I
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think, you know, there's a whole lot in there,
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but at some point, I don't know
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what age I was, but my mother got sick with early onset Alzheimer's,
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and we've talked about that and how that affected me mentally and spiritually,
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but that, created an opportunity
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for me to leave where I was, out with no real roots
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on the West Coast, to come back home and help my family take
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care of my mother. And it was a great idea. It was,
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it was a great idea. But I brought— and I thought, you know what,
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I can leave all these problems that I have. I'll just leave them in Nevada.
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Yeah, but dude, all my problems loaded up in my U-Haul
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and rode with me. You know what I'm saying?
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Yeah. Um, how often do we think that though? If we just change
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our environment, we could leave all the bad habits behind. Oh dude, without a little
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work, I mean, you're just packing a backpack of problems and carrying— it's
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just a heavier problem on your shoulders, you know? Um,
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and I mean, I had tried to leave my problems several
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times. I had got this different job and gone here and gone there and thought,
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you know, hey, I can leave that behind. And it was just the first gas
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station in a new town It was everything's the same,
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right? So moved back to Birmingham and
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everything really just got worse.
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I thought I was here to help my dad take care of my mom,
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and I mean, it's embarrassing to talk about, but man, I mean, I dropped the
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ball so bad. I lost my mom when I was supposed to be
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looking out for her, you know, on several occasions.
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It was a mess. In my mid-30s, I was a Mess,
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mess. And at that time, man, I don't know, like, I know this will resonate
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with a lot of people listening, but I was super,
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super mad at a God that I
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didn't really know. Does that make sense? Like, absolutely. My mom was
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dying in front of us, and I'm just angry at a
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God that I don't even know. And I think that just really helped
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me find my rock bottom and get a jackhammer and go a little bit deeper.
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Um, at some point my dad had had
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enough and he said, hey, look, he was in the middle of this, right?
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He's trying to take care of my mom, he's trying to keep a business together,
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and then in the middle of all this he's finding out that he makes too
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much money to get assistance to help her with
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early onset ALS, but he doesn't make enough money to pay for
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the care that she needs. And so he was dealing
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with all that and you know, I'm making things worse. And one
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day he brought me over to his house and, um,
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he— in the same day now, I got fired from my job because
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I was working for him, I got kicked out of my house because I was
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renting it from him, and I lost my vehicle because
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it was his truck. All in the same day, dude.
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And, um, gosh, I can look back at that and laugh a little
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bit, but like, yes, I went immediately homeless. With no car
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and no job, like all at the same time. And it
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was, every bit of that was because of actions
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that I took, that I made on my own,
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right? Like none of that was his fault, he just had enough of it.
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And it broke his heart, 'cause I'm his oldest son,
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and you know, he loves me like,
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matter what I'm doing, but he doesn't love what I'm doing at that point,
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you know. And so, um,
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at some point he decided that he was only enabling you, right? Is that why
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he was like, okay, he was almost like tough love, like they
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talk about, right? Yeah. And he was. And so I went out on my own
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and I was homeless for a while. And then I got a decent job.
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And, you know, I was in and out of jobs, in and
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out of apartments. And For a long time, I ended up just being homeless.
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Just, it just, that's where it was leading. It was just, I'm just gonna
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be a homeless person. And at some point I told myself, this is who you
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are. And it is heartbreaking to
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think back about those actual thoughts going through my mind,
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telling myself, well, this is just who you are. This is who
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you are. You're meant to be homeless. You're meant to be a drug addict.
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You're meant to be an alcoholic. You're meant to be a piece of crap,
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right? I actually had those thoughts. Like, this is,
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Rob, this is just who you are. Like, some people
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are born to do this. Some people are, this is just who you were born
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to be. You found it. And when you have thoughts like that,
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it really, really can take a person down a super
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dark road. And during those times,
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a lot of this had to do with drugs and alcohol, but I
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can tell people without a shadow of a doubt, that I carried demons
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with me. They just, they were around me.
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And when I met my future wife, who I'm married to
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now, she was running the roads crazy just
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like me, 2 different directions. We were running head-on like this when
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we met, you know. And I could describe those demons to her
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and I'd be like, hey, they're here. And I know people are like probably
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tuning out at this point. No, I'm just saying, no, but It
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was real. There was spiritual warfare going on all around me,
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and I could see it. And again, a lot of it
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was drugs and alcohol, but man, it was, it was very scary. I would be
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tormented at night. I couldn't sleep. I would wake
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up just being shook. And anyway,
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I spent years trying to figure that out and
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what that was about. And it wasn't until we
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got— my wife and I, this is just the short version, but it wasn't until
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we got in a lot of trouble legally with some of the drugs and
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stuff that we were doing, and we were presented
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by a judge that said, hey, we're gonna sentence
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you two to 10 years in prison,
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or you can take this opportunity right here And he gave
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us a drug court opportunity, which for the charges that we had,
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nobody had been given that opportunity. That's usually a straight to jail.
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He gave us this opportunity and everything,
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it was like the Lord had ordained these steps. Like he knew it was my
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time to start coming out of this mess that I was in, right?
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And just specific people were put in front of me
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And I believe coaching is like that. Like a specific person is put in
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front of you for a specific reason, for a specific amount
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of time to have you go from here to here. And I can go back,
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I get chill bumps, my hair's standing up on my arms. I can go back
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and point to a person that was in my
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life at a specific time that allowed me to go from here to here,
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and then they were just gone. Like it wasn't like I kept up
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with them that much. You know, they were there, they were put there, for a
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specific reason. And some of those guys were pastors, some of those guys
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were friends of friends, some of those guys and women, some of them were
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health people. And it
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took a whole lot of people from
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different little angles while I was in that process
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of drug court. And that lasted 18 months. And the whole thing was for
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us, If we popped with drugs
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or whatever, or even alcohol once, we would go to
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jail, like county jail, for like a weekend. If we did a second one,
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they would send us for a week, and then there was no
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third option. Third option, you do the 10 years. That was enough
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for me. That was enough for me. I was like, you know what, man?
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I'm so tired. I was so tired. Now look,
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I'm a small person. I'm 5'5. 126 pounds,
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but in those days I was like 94 pounds,
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you know. I mean, you— I look,
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I look so much different than I did back then. Um,
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it was amazing. That part of my road was so amazing.
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Like, there was just so many people that actually even stood up for me.
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And I'll tell you a quick story. Yeah, I was,
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you know, obviously I'm coming out of a deep charge that
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most people would be scared of.
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My future wife was still in
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jail for something she had done. And I'm asking
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family member, hey, I've got nowhere to go. I'm trying to change
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my life. Can you help me? And my brother-in-law, who I didn't
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know because my drugs and alcohol refused to let me get close,
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right, in the past. I didn't even know him. He said, yeah,
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you can stay at our house. Now get this, he had 3 little, little boys.
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They were under 5, under 6.
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Um, his family and some of their friends were like,
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you can't let this guy stay in your house. You can't let him stay
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in your house. You've got young children. He's a drug addict. And this guy that
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I didn't know stood up and said, you know what, man, you're gonna
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make me cry on your podcast. That's okay. I'm not far from it.
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This man is family, and I've been called to
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help him, and I'm gonna help him. And if you don't like it,
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you can stand back, right? And it makes me cry every time I think about
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that. I needed
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a place to lay my head. And he offered that to me without
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expecting anything. You know?
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That was one. And then there was other, like I had Shannon and I,
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when she got out of jail, we walked into a church and we were just
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like, we didn't know what church was. We were like, hey, let's try church.
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You think it's gonna burn down when we walk through the door? You know what
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I mean? We went into church and
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we still looked like we were doing our past, you know.
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And the folks in this church, we just got lucky because you hear stories
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on the opposite side of this, but these folks were just like, hey,
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come on in, we've been waiting for you.
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And I can remember a guy in the church was like, hey, what do
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you do? And I told him, you know, I did construction stuff and odd jobs.
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And this sounds so crazy, but back then it meant so much to me.
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And I'd been going to church there for probably 4 or 5 weeks, not even
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a long time. And they said, hey, we wanna give you these keys so
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that when you're doing the maintenance, you can come in and out. And I'm like,
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these people trust me enough to give me
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keys to the building? Like, you see
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how things started building for me.
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So from there, you know,
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we— I went and started working at—
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it wasn't a drug and alcohol rehab, it was a rehabilitation place,
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but it was rehab for men that were coming out of prison.
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And these guys were coming out of prison, and the guy
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that hired me, he told me, look, I'm just gonna create a position for you.
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I need you to help them get IDs, help them get Social Security cards,
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you know, help them come back part of society. And I could
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just relate to all these guys, you know, because it felt like nobody was
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there. You know, you're coming out of prison, you think everybody's against me,
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and I knew that feeling. And so I made it
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a point to look these guys in the eyes when I
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saw them, when they got off the bus or when they got off the the
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van at our place, and I looked them in their eyes, and I made sure
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they looked at me, and I wanted them to know I see you, I understand
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you, you know? And that's when I was able to start giving back,
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like, and I really felt like, oh man, this is awesome.
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This is awesome to be able to help other people. My whole life
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started changing when I thought, when I started seeing I can help other
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people. And the few little things that I know how to do can
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be such a huge impact on someone
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else. Just like somebody handing me a set of keys, that was very little to
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them, but it was massive in my life, right?
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So I worked there for several years,
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and without telling her story,
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because I know you'll have her on at some point, but yeah, my wife— we
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will definitely have your wife Shannon on. Yeah, she had got out of jail and
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she had gone back to her past shenanigans.
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And at the place where I was that was helping men
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come out of prison, we found her at one of the lowest
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places of her life. And she's like, I just need help. And so I asked
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Andrew, the guy that was running it, I said, hey man, I know this is
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just for men and it's just for coming out of prison. Can you help someone
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I know? And it's a woman.
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Him and his wife at the time took her into their personal house,
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not knowing her. This is just God
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intervening in our lives, you know? And again,
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for her it was the same thing for me. It was somebody that was willing
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to take a chance on her. That's when things changed. It changed for both
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of us. And she came in and was like one of the first women to
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start a new program at that place. She was one of the— after
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that, they started taking women there. But the
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people in that part of my life changed everything for
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me. And I'll tell them so many times when I see them or run into
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them, I'm like, man, you don't even know. And they're like, we kind of know,
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you've told us 100 times.
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You're like, I'll tell you 100 more. John, there's no way to pay somebody
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back like that. There's nothing that you can do to pay
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somebody back that has that much of an impact on
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your life, you know. And, and just the little things. It reminds
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me, like, to this day when I see homeless people, it's so easy to get,
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you know, glazed over and go, oh, they're probably a drug addict.
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It— I try to make it a point to look at them and
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speak to them. I don't necessarily have to give them money,
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but I want them to know that they're seen because I think worst part for
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me being homeless was I felt like I was in
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the society of people, but people didn't even see me. They chose to not
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see me. Um, and so when we had
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our ministry downtown Birmingham, we would— in our homeless
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outreach, I always told all of our volunteers to ask
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their name. Ask their name because it's so
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important for them to realize we see you as a
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person. You have a name. It shows respect, and it shows— it,
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it also shows that, you know, we're brothers and sisters.
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We're all— just because someone is on the streets versus someone that
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is not unhoused, none of that makes someone better than the other. We're all children
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of God, and they're worth knowing their name, you know.
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I 100% agree with you there. 100% agree with you. It's just
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really, it's really hard to not get hardened, you know,
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like you give somebody $10 and then you see them on the other corner,
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they, they tell you whatever story it is. And I just try to be like,
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hey, look, if I feel led, if I'm supposed to give this guy $10,
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who cares what he's doing with it? Yeah, you gave it, God will take
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care of it. Be obedient. If I feel prompted that I'm
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supposed to give that, it doesn't really matter what that guy does with it.
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It doesn't matter if he goes and tells a different story to someone else.
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3 feet away from me, right? Because that happens.
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Like, yeah, um, it's not on me what happens after
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that. It's just a give. So what makes your story— one
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of the things that makes your story so amazing, and especially amazing for this
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particular podcast, is, you know, not only do we, do we interview
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people who are flowing in their purpose, but I've been teaching on my solo episodes
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a lot about we change our reality by changing our
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identity and the importance of identity and,
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and the importance of, of identifying those, those limiting
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beliefs, the stories we're telling ourselves and how we don't
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have to believe those anymore. We can stop that cycle and change what we're telling
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ourselves. And at some point you were telling yourself
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that you were meant to be homeless. You were telling yourself you were nothing but
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a drug addict. You were nothing but alcohol. Like, this is who you were.
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This horrible negative self-talk. But it
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sounds like to me one of the pivotal moments for you that started to change
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that was drug court. Is that right? Like, is that when you're like,
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maybe, maybe I can be something different, or I can be something
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more? So through drug court, I was
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introduced to— like, I had to go do— man, they put so many parameters
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on us. Like, I, I had to go take a urinalysis every day.
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For like 11 months, and then it changed almost like every other day for that.
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We were on it for 18 months, um, and I
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was introduced to a thing called Celebrate Recovery. And there was a church out
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in Calera, which is way out from where I was staying, um,
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and the pastor of the church named Pastor Mark— Pastor Mark loved,
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or still loves, people no matter where they are.
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And you know, we get these, we get these thoughts in our head that this
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is who I am, and because I am, then this, or because this is who
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I am, then this. And to be honest, none of it is even true,
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you know what I mean? But we tell ourselves these lies and it keeps
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us by ourselves. And anyway,
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I was introduced to Pastor Mark, and I've never Other than my
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father, I've never met another man that loved people the
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way he loves people. And it changed,
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man. It changed the way I saw a lot of stuff just
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by watching him operate. Like, I was the
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quiet guy. I didn't want to talk. I didn't want to be there. I didn't
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want to do it. But I was watching Pastor Mark, and I'm like, what is
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up with this guy? He's so different.
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You know, and I ended up becoming a very good friend
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of his through that. But yeah, drug court opened that door for me,
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and then being able to see that. And also, you know,
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I had to do so many meetings. I had to be at all these different
24:44
places all the time.
24:48
There was a very small church called Tapestry of
24:52
Hope back in those days, and it was run at one of the
24:55
Samford University like classrooms.
24:59
And the guy that was doing it was so awesome.
25:03
He was meant to be in my life at that time. Like,
25:06
I wasn't ready for a church where I sat in a
25:10
pew and heard 4 or 5 songs and then heard a sermon. I wasn't ready
25:13
for that. I was ready for someone— I needed
25:17
that real and raw person that
25:20
was— that had lived a life similar to mine and
25:24
was on fire with the Holy Spirit and could push
25:29
it outward, right? I needed that, and that's who Tal was
25:32
at that point. And man, I just,
25:35
again, it was just, I don't wanna say luck, 'cause I just feel like
25:39
all these different people were put exactly in the right place at
25:43
the exact right time. Tal introduced me
25:46
to something in those days when I was getting better. Called solitude.
25:50
And I was like, come on now, what is solitude? So I started reading about
25:53
it and I'm like, all right, this is fun. I was like, well, if I
25:58
wanna find solitude, I need to go stay with some monks. And so I went
26:02
to this place, this little town north of us called Cullman, Alabama,
26:06
and they have a monastery out there. And I called ahead of time,
26:10
spoke with someone, and I went and stayed for 3 nights with
26:13
monks. And it wasn't a super long time, but man,
26:16
it opened my mind up to see how other people
26:20
give their lives to something that's not theirs.
26:25
And seeing them live that and hearing their stories by
26:31
just being there for that short period of time was so eye-opening for me.
26:34
Like, first of all, who goes and stays with monks, right? But then like,
26:39
my friends were asking, well, what are y'all gonna eat? And I'm like, we're gonna
26:42
eat food, man. What are you talking about? I mean, like, ah.
26:46
Saltine crackers for 3 days. It was wild. These guys
26:49
were, um, they made an oath to give away
26:54
everything they had ever owned, and they couldn't own anything.
26:57
Like, I had— when I was there, I stayed up late and I drew some
27:00
pictures, and I was trying to give them to this guy, Brother Brennan. And,
27:04
um, he's like, I can't accept that. You can give it to the church,
27:08
and I can love it, but I can't accept it. Like,
27:11
that that crazy of I can't own anything.
27:15
Um, and to see them take a vow of silence
27:19
for the first part of the day too, man, that was super hard for me
27:22
because I'm a— I love talking. But, uh, you get up in the morning and
27:27
you don't say anything until well after breakfast, right?
27:30
You do all this stuff. And anyway, man, that's a whole story
27:34
by itself. But there's just a whole lot
27:38
of different things that help change? Like, how does Rob
27:41
see himself? I was searching for answers and I was
27:45
getting them. And I think the reason I was getting them is because I was
27:49
searching for them. You know what I mean? We can sit back with this negative
27:52
mindset and go, oh, nothing works for me. Well, you're not looking for it.
27:57
Absolutely. You know that Steve Jobs quote?
28:00
You can't connect the dots looking forward, but you can connect the dots
28:05
looking backwards. Like there is a loving God that is
28:08
using the entire universe to work things out for our good.
28:13
But that's because you're looking through that lens. You could
28:16
also look back and be like, look at this. My mom had, you know,
28:20
early onset Alzheimer's. I was a drug addict. I couldn't beat addiction
28:24
for years. I ended up in prison. I ended up,
28:27
I mean, your story is beautiful because you
28:31
see it as beautiful. Because you see God's hand on
28:35
your life. And that's, that's amazing right
28:39
there, just having that perspective. And, you know, I'm a big believer
28:42
that in sowing and reaping and whatever energy we put out,
28:46
we get back. And so because you're living in gratitude,
28:50
then you're, you're receiving things to be grateful for.
28:54
You know, I mean, you're successful because you see yourself as successful.
28:58
Your identity is that of successful. And you're, you're blessed
29:02
because you believe you're blessed. I mean, it's so huge. It comes down
29:07
to that identity and that belief system of,
29:10
am I a victim or a victor? And that doesn't mean we don't go
29:14
through things that victimize us. It doesn't mean we don't have injustice
29:17
in the world, but we do get to take ownership of
29:21
our story by deciding how we're going to let it impact our lives.
29:24
Yeah, I agree. And I think that's what's made you so successful,
29:28
and Shannon as well. And because we look at ourselves as overcomers,
29:32
you know what I mean? Like, we've overcome some things. Now, a lot of the
29:35
stuff that was bad for us was self-inflicted. Let's not get it
29:38
wrong. It wasn't like somebody did me wrong. I created a
29:43
tornado around me, you know? I created the storm. I created
29:47
the mess. Um, but so
29:50
many people can't come out of it, John. So many people can't find their way
29:54
out of it. So many people, you know, don't— can't live through
29:58
it. And we're just fortunate. We're so fortunate
30:03
about the things that were placed in front of us and how we were able
30:07
to see them and grab them and be like, this is a
30:10
lifeboat, not, oh my God, I've got to do this, right?
30:14
Like, I was able to see things as a, as a life raft. Um,
30:19
Amazing. Now that is huge. You know,
30:22
I can tell you too, I know some of your listeners may want to hear
30:26
this. So like at that, at that place that I was working to help prisoners
30:29
come in, I'd worked there probably almost 5 years. And I
30:34
was, I got called in to do a staff meeting. I was actually, I started
30:38
out by the way, making no money. He's like, hey, well, I'll give you a
30:41
place to stay and you can eat the food here.
30:45
It took like almost a year before I drew a paycheck.
30:49
But again, like, that's where I needed to be.
30:53
So I'd been there about 5 years and I was on staff and they called
30:58
me in for a staff meeting and I was there a little early. So I
31:01
go out on— it was on 3rd Avenue South, downtown Birmingham,
31:05
and I'm smoking a cigarette. I still smoked back then.
31:08
And a car pulled up about 4
31:12
feet from me, because I was on the sidewalk and there was a little piece
31:15
of grass about 3 feet wide, and he rolled his window down and just unloaded
31:20
a pistol on me. And you know, you're thinking
31:23
like, why?
31:26
It was real easy for me to go negative here and
31:30
think, everything I'm doing is right right now.
31:35
Why now? But I didn't allow myself
31:39
to go there. Like, one of the men,
31:43
this is nuts, it'll probably make me pretty emotional. One of the men
31:47
that was there, we called him Pee-wee. He was shorter than me,
31:50
and I'm only 5'4, right? He was shorter than me, Pee-wee.
31:54
Pee-wee saw the car pull up and then heard the gunshots.
31:58
And Pee-wee knew who the driver was that did that.
32:03
And so I'm on a gurney,
32:06
like after the ambulance gets there, and they had already cut my clothes off
32:10
of me, and I'm strapped on this gurney, and they're putting me in this ambulance.
32:14
And he's saying, hey, we know this guy, we're gonna go get him.
32:17
Like they were gonna exact street justice on this guy. It was just gonna be
32:21
a vicious cycle.
32:25
Like it was never gonna stop. And this is like a moment
32:29
in time that felt like it was 20 minutes, it was probably
32:33
17 seconds, right? I was able to ask Pee-wee,
32:36
I was like, Pee-wee, you know how much God loves me, right?
32:40
And he said, yeah. And I said, listen, God loves that man as much
32:45
as he loves me. He just did something that God doesn't love.
32:48
We're not gonna go attack. I could cry.
32:52
That little thing that I was able to say to Pee-wee— now
32:55
that didn't just come out of nowhere. We had been talking about the Apostle
32:59
Paul for about 5 weeks before we left to go to work every morning.
33:04
So all this stuff was going like this in Pee Wee's head. When I said
33:08
that to him, something clicked. They didn't go exact street justice,
33:12
but after I got sent to the hospital, he goes into
33:16
the office where we were and asked one of the staff members if
33:20
they could, if they could pray with him.
33:23
And He accepted Christ that morning and
33:28
he got out of our program a few weeks later and he got murdered
33:32
because he was back in the street. People went to heaven through
33:36
something that was uncomfortable for me, right?
33:39
Yeah, I got shot, but when you look at it, it was just very uncomfortable
33:43
when you look back. I would— now,
33:47
could God have done, orchestrated that in a whole different way?
33:49
100%, 100,000 different ways.
33:54
But I can never go back and be angry about getting shot when
33:58
those things happened. Like,
34:01
think about me being in that place for
34:06
the amount of time that I was and being able to say, like, that man
34:11
went to heaven.
34:14
Wow. Yeah.
34:19
That's, um, that's such a powerful story. And I remember
34:24
reading your book and reading that section of your book, and I
34:28
think I even sent you a voice note and was like,
34:32
damn it, I can't believe Pee-wee died. Or something like that. I was just like,
34:35
no, I was crying. I was so upset when I
34:38
read that part of the book. You told me you were at the gym and
34:41
you were like, no, Pee-wee, like, you're not gonna see you again.
34:45
I was listening to— I listened to your book on audio,
34:48
and yeah, I was at the gym and was like, oh, um,
34:53
it still gets me too. But it, it shows,
34:57
first of all, again, how powerful that perspective is.
35:01
When we look at things in a positive way, we can
35:05
find the positive in it. And,
35:08
you know, you're looking at this in a way that you were able to
35:12
forgive on the spot, which was able to cause Pee-wee
35:16
to forgive, and then Pee-wee to want to get prayer, and, you know, to then,
35:20
you know, find salvation, and for him to live those last,
35:24
you know, few weeks as a follower of Christ,
35:27
you know, and all of that. And, and I think that's just beautiful because
35:31
we get to decide if things happen
35:35
for us or to us. And yeah, there is power when we decide that everything
35:41
has happened for us. And I know that can be like, what, what do
35:44
you mean everything's happened for us? We get to decide it because
35:49
God works all things together for our good. And I know that we have listeners
35:53
who, you know, are Christian and Muslim and Jewish and spiritual.
35:57
So whatever you call God, if it is the
36:00
universe, if it is, if it is Allah, if it is the great
36:04
stream of consciousness, you know, or whatever, I truly believe
36:08
that God is love and that God is working everything together for our
36:12
good. As long as we are surrendered, as long as we are saying,
36:16
okay, I know that God's gonna, gonna use this for
36:20
me. Everything is happening for me instead of to me. And as long as we
36:23
are flowing in that, you can look back and see things that,
36:27
that are flat out miracles that are just happening because
36:31
everything's working out for your good. And you're looking for God in even
36:35
the worst circumstances. You know, John, I think it's a little harder.
36:39
Like, for me, it's easy to look back and say, you know what, it was
36:43
easy for me to accept what you're saying when I was at the bottom,
36:47
or even when I didn't have things, right? And so now put
36:51
me in a position where I have this really nice house, I have a new
36:54
truck, right? I have a beautiful wife. And when things don't
36:58
start going the way I want them to go, not necessarily the
37:03
way they're supposed to, but the way that I want them to go, I can
37:05
get caught up in something even when everything's nice
37:10
around me. Because I— it's, it's not as easy to
37:13
go back into that everything's happening for me because
37:18
I have all this stuff now, you know what I mean? Yeah,
37:21
it's easier to trust God when God's all you have to trust.
37:25
Isn't that the truth, man? I mean, that it's
37:29
It's so true, it's so true. And so I still battle, I still
37:33
battle things in my head and in my heart, like,
37:36
why is this happening? Why is this going on? And I look around and I'm
37:40
like, holy cow, I'm upstairs in a really beautiful home
37:45
that I was able to build, right? I've got this beautiful truck
37:50
out front, I have this gorgeous wife sitting in the kitchen. I have
37:54
to constantly remind myself that. Because I get stuck in the,
37:58
why isn't this working, or why am I not here, when at
38:02
the same time you never want to think, all right, I've arrived and this is
38:06
where it stops. There has to be that, that we're going for, that we're reaching
38:09
for, right? But I think there's got to be that balance
38:12
there. I, I constantly find myself going, hey, stop complaining about
38:17
that. What are you complaining about? Look how gorgeous your life is.
38:20
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38:24
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39:59
Yeah. And it's, it is so important. You know, when you stop
40:03
to think, I'm living a life now that I used to pray for, I'm living
40:07
a life now that I used to dream about. And yes,
40:10
there are stresses and there are, you know, all of that that
40:13
comes with it. Like somebody said, you know,
40:16
they said, I used to have $100 problems, then I had $1,000 problems.
40:20
Now I have $10,000 problems or $50,000 problems.
40:24
And it's true. You're going to always have problems.
40:27
So adopting and keeping that mindset that no matter
40:30
what, everything is happening for us instead of to us is
40:34
the answer to all of that. Um,
40:37
one thing that you mentioned that I think is so cool too is that not
40:40
only do you live in a beautiful home, but you live in a beautiful home
40:45
in a very historic area of Birmingham that
40:49
has changed just hugely
40:53
because of the work that you do for that area.
40:57
And so, you know, so Rob lives in the Norwood area
41:01
of Birmingham that was just absolutely known
41:05
for high crime and, and just for absolute,
41:08
um, a place you didn't even really want to drive through. And his— so
41:13
much of his company has been renovating homes in Norwood.
41:17
And not just somebody who lives 30 miles
41:20
away coming in and doing it. He moved in and renovated his own house
41:25
and lives there. And he's a part of the community and a part of trying
41:28
to make it better and not just trying to gentrify it to get rich,
41:31
but actually actually causing the community to improve
41:35
in so many ways. And I think that's a part of your
41:39
story that maybe a lot of people don't realize. They're just like, oh, great.
41:42
Yeah. So this guy's flipped a bunch of houses or he's done— but I mean,
41:46
you live in the area that you've done so much work in. And I think
41:50
that's an amazing, you know, an amazing accomplishment
41:55
right there too. So Shannon says,
41:59
a good bit, you know, hey, the homes in this neighborhood
42:02
parallel our lives because we
42:07
were born beautiful and we went
42:12
downhill, destroyed ourselves. Like whatever happened
42:15
here, this was a beautiful neighborhood at the turn of the century in the
42:19
1900s. Oh yeah. And then it went downhill And then
42:23
it just needed someone to see it.
42:27
And we happened to be that someone 11 years
42:31
ago. That we saw it and we're like, oh my gosh, look what we can
42:33
do here. And we didn't know how big it would turn out.
42:37
But we knew that if we did one at a time, it would make a
42:40
difference. And that's so
42:44
much parallel to our lives. Like people that saw us and
42:48
how much different and beautiful our lives are now. Right? Same thing with these houses.
42:52
And then you start putting them all together and the neighborhood really is a
42:55
gorgeous neighborhood. Still got a lot of work to do, just like in my life,
42:59
right? There's still a lot of work to do in the neighborhood. There's still a
43:01
lot of work to do in my life. So I, I love being a part
43:05
of a neighborhood that still has ups
43:09
and downs and still needs stuff and still needs love. And hopefully
43:13
we can meet more neighbors and start, you know, connecting more.
43:18
Um, that's what it's really all about. I think that's
43:21
wonderful. Yeah, it— and I had the question on here, actually.
43:25
It was my next question for you, but you beat me to it. Was,
43:28
have you ever noticed the metaphor between breathing
43:32
life into abandoned houses and the type of life that you and Shannon
43:37
led? And honestly, the way that you have,
43:40
through volunteering with, with ministries and all the things that you've done helped
43:45
breathe life into other people that maybe have been forgotten by their families or friends
43:48
too? Oh man, I mean, just being able to do
43:53
small things. I think a lot of people are like, oh man, you know,
43:56
they did this big thing and I'll never be able to do that. Like,
43:59
doing something very small makes huge differences
44:02
for people. And I mean as small as opening
44:06
up a door for someone and telling them have a great day.
44:10
That could be the difference in someone staying
44:14
alive and not staying alive.
44:17
Like, especially in neighborhoods like where we are, there's just so much
44:21
despair, you know? There's just still so much
44:25
despair. And so I think that one little action— if—
44:29
think about if all of us that are even— that are part of this
44:32
podcast right here decided to do that. Every day
44:36
for a month. Like how big of a ripple that would make
44:39
in the community around us. It makes a huge
44:43
difference, dude. I'm telling you, like just telling someone, looking them in the eye,
44:48
especially if they're different, like socioeconomic class, right?
44:51
Like different, look different than you. And you look them in the eye and say,
44:54
hey man, have a great day. Like people aren't used to that.
44:58
They're not used to it. It affects them right here and then
45:01
they go home and something is different.
45:05
Um, I truly believe in that. I, I think that we can change the world
45:09
with very, very small things.
45:12
Absolutely. I believe that's how we flow in our purpose. Like, to me,
45:17
there is no better way to live
45:22
an enlightened life than to be
45:26
kind to each other. Lost John for a second. Let's see.
45:31
John was talking about living an enlightened life. Now hopefully
45:36
he comes back on. John, we're hoping you come back on. Okay, here we are.
45:40
Hey. Yeah, I just texted you. I'm like, internet went out.
45:43
Okay, we're good. We're good. We'll pick it right back there. The good thing is
45:47
we edit all of our episodes too. Um, I jumped in
45:51
and I was like, John was talking about an enlightened life. Hopefully John will come
45:54
back on. That is the great thing about
45:58
this not being live. Um, so yeah, that 44-ish minute mark.
46:02
Yeah. Um, I have a great editor, thank goodness. Um,
46:06
so, uh, so to pick back up, so I believe
46:09
that there is no better way to flow
46:13
in God, to live like an enlightened life.
46:16
For those, you know, you, you spent some time with the monks who are living
46:19
in enlightenment. Like, there is no better way to live in God's
46:24
nature than to be kind to each other, to show
46:28
love to each other, to find the things we have in common
46:32
instead of the things that separate us. I think that's amazing. So yes,
46:36
seeing someone, saying their name, being kind,
46:40
being kind to, um, the, the guy that picks
46:44
up our garbage, being kind to, you know, the, the person
46:48
that mops the floor. They should be treated the same way as the CEO,
46:52
as the president, as everybody else. Like, we should treat every
46:55
person like the most important person in the world. I totally
46:59
agree with that. When we do that, that's when we are truly flowing
47:03
in God. And I think that's a huge key to enlightenment. Do you know what
47:07
I think really is slowing that down? Because I think a lot of people are
47:10
like, man, you know what? That's a great idea. But I think these
47:14
things right here hinder what you're talking about.
47:19
And I agree. Let's just say, just like your husband or
47:23
your wife, and you're out to eat, and you should be spending that time
47:27
together, but then you look across a restaurant and everybody's like this,
47:30
sitting 2 feet away from their spouse.
47:34
That's crazy work. What? What?
47:37
Yeah, my husband Joe and I have that rule. If we're
47:41
at dinner together, we treat it like a date, even if it's not not.
47:43
And phones are down. Like maybe when we first get there, we'll check
47:47
a little bit, but then phones go down and we have dinner. And if it's
47:51
a date night, we'll put on do not disturb too. Like we are, you know,
47:54
things are so busy, but you know, and I know you and Shannon,
47:58
that's something that I love that you guys do. You pre-plan your date nights.
48:01
You, you have like a meeting each year where you plan out your year,
48:05
including your date nights. And I think that's important. We have to
48:10
make that time to, to love on our
48:13
spouses and, and to connect with them,
48:16
especially in a world that's pulling for our attention, especially with
48:20
our spouses. Like, you know, how can you be kind to
48:23
everyone else and then ignore your spouse when you come home because your
48:27
phone is so important? Like, real estate is so— it
48:32
is so high, like, energy, just takes up so much time
48:36
and you've been in it before and that's what we do now.
48:39
And I really have to step back and go, you know what, these deals
48:43
aren't going to fall apart if I don't answer my phone for 2 hours.
48:47
I need to focus on who's in front of me. If my daughter comes over,
48:51
I want my phone hidden. I want to spend time with
48:54
her, right? If I'm with my grandbaby, I want my phone hidden.
48:58
Like, it's so hard. It's so hard, dude.
49:02
Absolutely. So I know we need to start wrapping up,
49:05
but this is, uh, this has been amazing. And, you know,
49:10
you have so much success to talk about and
49:14
so much, you know, and we're gonna have Shannon on, and then I actually would
49:17
love to do an episode with you and Shannon together at some point too.
49:19
But, but I appreciate you talking to us today about your earlier
49:23
years and all the things that have built you, because that's
49:27
where I think you connected with your purpose. Like, it wasn't
49:31
because now that you're flipping houses, you're finally living your purpose.
49:35
You connected with your purpose way back then and
49:38
started flowing in that. And I think that's really,
49:42
really powerful. It's important to know too that
49:45
things don't just change in an instant. If you've
49:50
done things to mess your life up, it can change,
49:53
but it's not going to change this fast. If it took me 25 years
49:56
to mess it up. I can't expect it to be fixed and perfect
50:01
in 6 months. Exactly. But I
50:05
didn't lose 120 pounds overnight. It took me 2 and a half years.
50:09
You know, I mean, it's— and I still have to go to the gym.
50:11
Like, I still have to do it. It's, it's always a process, but it's
50:15
so worth it. You know, it's choose your hard. You know,
50:19
I love that. It's, it is hard to live in addiction.
50:22
And lose people and things. It is hard
50:26
to get sober. Choose your heart. You know,
50:29
like, it's, it's hard to, to be heavy and get
50:34
made fun of and, and have a food addiction. It's hard to get
50:38
past that and get healthier and build your life. But choose your heart.
50:41
It— you know, we either way, we're choosing something that's difficult.
50:45
But the beautiful thing is that when we're choosing the thing that's
50:49
best for us, that's when we're getting the help that we can't explain.
50:54
That's when people appear in our lives that take you in when you're a
50:58
drug addict and says you're part of the family. Yeah, you know, that's when
51:02
it happens is when we're choosing ourselves and, and what's best for us.
51:06
You know, it's funny, I came on your podcast to talk about like some
51:10
of my success in business. And then like we talked about faith
51:14
and family. You know, but that's, that's really what it's all about, honestly. Faith,
51:18
family. Absolutely. So I do— I
51:21
have a lightning round and then one final question. But before I get to
51:24
that, I do want to say one of the things that you're doing
51:28
that's so powerful in business right now is your real estate coaching.
51:32
So if someone is listening to this and they've always thought about maybe
51:37
flipping a house or something like that, how, how would
51:41
they get in touch with you to find out more about the coaching that you
51:43
offer? Oh yeah, so 2 ways. You can go straight to the website, which is
51:47
riseuponline.info,
51:50
riseuponline.info. Or I also have this ebook.
51:54
Now I got it here in print. I just happen to have it right here.
51:56
Um, it's called the Rise Up Flip System.
52:00
And this thing, if you've ever been interested
52:04
in flipping houses, this answers the 3
52:08
main questions that every single person asks It answers
52:12
them in this 113-page ebook. Oh, that's great. And it
52:16
is riseuponline.info/1.
52:22
Oh, okay, cool. And that little ebook will answer— I mean, I'm telling you,
52:25
every person that ever wants to flip asks the same exact
52:29
3 questions, and we dive deep in on that so
52:33
that when they're done with that, it gives them an opportunity to make a discovery
52:38
call with me or one of my partners And those questions are already
52:41
answered so that the 30 minutes that we have with them can really be
52:45
focused on them and how we can help them instead of saying,
52:48
well, if you don't have enough money, this is how you do it. If you
52:51
don't know the systems, that's— those questions are answered in the book.
52:55
Oh, that's wonderful. That's awesome. Well,
52:58
and then if people want to read The Long Way Still Gets You There,
53:01
how do they read that book? It is an amazing book. I highly
53:04
recommend the book. You'll get through the part about Pee-wee. At least you
53:08
know it's coming now. So for most people, the easy— look,
53:12
this is what it looks like. Now, all the—
53:15
look at all these tabs. This is my book, and I still have tabs,
53:18
and I've read the book and put tabs so I can go back and answer
53:22
questions to myself. Um, the easiest way
53:25
for most people is just to go on Amazon, um, and look up The Long
53:29
Way Still Gets You There by Robin Shannon Malcolm. Um, they can also go
53:32
on to our website and get the book there. Um, that supports
53:37
us a little bit more, but is that the same Rise Up website?
53:41
Yeah, they can get it, they can get it there as well. Um,
53:44
most people feel more comfortable going to Amazon because they know and trust that place,
53:48
and that's fine. Um, it takes a couple of days. If you go into our
53:52
website, you can request a signed book and we'll sign it and send it out
53:55
from our shipping station in the basement. That's nice.
53:59
That's awesome. Um, okay,
54:02
cool. And then lastly, if someone just wants to reach out to you directly,
54:06
how, like, what are your socials? How do they follow you? What,
54:09
what's the best thing? Yeah, Robert Malcolm on,
54:13
um, Facebook and 3D Properties on Instagram.
54:18
Awesome. And I answer direct messages, private messages.
54:22
I answer all that. And then You know, once we're
54:26
friends, we start sharing cell phones.
54:29
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, that's fantastic, Rob.
54:32
So, okay, so get ready for the lightning
54:35
round. It won't be too bad, I promise, but it'll be good.
54:39
So just answer the first appropriate thing that comes to your mind.
54:43
I always tell people that.
54:46
Okay, not your own book or my book. What is your favorite
54:50
book? Oh dude, right now it has to be The
54:55
10X Mentor by Grant Cardone. Oh,
54:58
nice, nice. Yeah, I've just finished reading it the second time.
55:03
Yeah, now I've read a whole lot of books over the last 3
55:07
months and I probably, after we get done with this call,
55:11
man, I should have said, but yeah, that first one comes to my mind.
55:15
The 10X Mentor, that's good to know. That's good. I haven't read that one yet.
55:18
That'll, that'll go on my list. What is your favorite business habit?
55:22
Would you call consistency a habit?
55:26
Yeah. Yes. So like doing the same
55:29
boring thing over and over and over and over
55:33
and over until the door breaks down. Wow.
55:38
I feel like there's a sermon in that somewhere. Like that is just, that is
55:41
like Business Bible 101. Like that is huge.
55:44
That is huge. The people that I coach, most of the people I coach are
55:48
like, they get aggravated and upset after they've made 3 calls.
55:52
And you're like, dude, you made 3 calls. Come talk to me when you made
55:55
3,000 calls. Right? Consistency over
55:59
and over and over and over. Like, my wife's like, stop saying it like that.
56:02
And you're just like, you have to. It's what— that's how you drive the point.
56:06
That's awesome. Okay, Rob, are you a morning
56:09
person or a night owl? 100% morning person.
56:13
Have you always been? It depends on what stage of life,
56:17
but I think like when I'm living clean and living my purpose, yes.
56:21
Um, there was a lot of times where I, where I was just the night
56:24
owl because that's what came with all the backstory. Gotcha. Um,
56:28
morning person because I right now I'm getting up at 4:30 AM and I'm running
56:32
5 miles every other day. Like that's a part of my deal until
56:35
I can— next week I run 6 and Next week I run 7 up to
56:39
10. So I love my mornings. If you win your morning, you win your day.
56:42
I say that all the time, but it is just so true. It's 100%.
56:47
Nobody can talk me out of that. And I can get so much done
56:51
before the sun comes up too. Because your phone's not
56:54
ringing, your emails, you're not checking your emails. I refuse to check my emails until
56:58
after the sun comes up. Mm-hmm. Same.
57:02
One word that Shannon would use to describe you.
57:06
Relentless. There you go. I won't stop until
57:10
the job gets done. Nice, nice. You know, I think,
57:14
I think that there's a lot of us that are like that. Like, and when
57:17
you realize that's who I am, and that, that was my word of
57:21
the year last year, like relentless. Like,
57:24
a lot of people see that as a negative, like, oh, that you're just pounding
57:28
something. No, relentless. I'm gonna keep on and on and
57:32
on and on consistently until the work
57:36
is done. And John, the work's never done.
57:40
Right? Yeah. It's just— well, my next question is,
57:43
what's one thing you're still trying to master?
57:47
Whoo. I want to be— I
57:52
want to be a known coach nationally.
57:56
I want to help more people. And with
58:00
the things that I've created recently, I can— I'm so excited about how many people
58:04
I can help. I mean, look, man, I have one success story I want to
58:08
tell you about real quick. I know we got to go up the podcast,
58:10
but there's a husband and wife team in a town about an hour
58:15
west of us, and I got introduced to them,
58:18
and they both worked in a factory. Both of them— one of the husband
58:21
made $40,000 a year and she made $38,000 a year.
58:25
And I was able to show them real estate. And not only
58:28
just real estate, I was able to show them house flipping. They were
58:32
able to leave these jobs in these factories where even in 2025,
58:37
the whistle would blow to tell you when to go to the bathroom. Okay,
58:41
what, what, people are working like that, right?
58:45
Real estate and some of the coaching that I've helped them do has
58:49
changed everything for them.
58:53
And I can't wait to help more and more people
58:57
like that because what we do, anyone can do it if they
59:01
have the right systems and processes. Absolutely. Anybody.
59:04
Absolutely. So what
59:08
is— this is not the final question, but there's one more that just I have
59:11
to ask you because it came to me with that. People who don't
59:16
start flipping, that they want to? And I was in that boat. You saw
59:20
my first flip when I did it. I thought about it for years before I
59:23
finally did it. What is one limiting belief that keeps people from pulling
59:27
that trigger and trying their first flip? I think one of the biggest—
59:31
there's 3 that I know of, um, and I can just tell them to you.
59:34
The biggest one is, I don't have any money. I don't, I don't have enough
59:37
money. I don't have any money. I don't have enough money. The other one is
59:40
I don't know how to do it. And the other one is, I don't
59:44
know if it's the right time. Because we watch the news and people say,
59:47
oh, the market's down, or the market's soft, or the market— in
59:52
reality, every day is the perfect day to flip houses.
59:55
Absolutely. You have to know what your exit strategy is or
59:59
who's gonna buy it. Once you figure out who's gonna buy it, whether that's Joe
1:00:03
and Susie Homemaker or it's big You
1:00:07
know, hedge fund, or it's just something— when you know who's gonna buy it,
1:00:10
you could— every day is a good day to buy real estate. Every day.
1:00:13
Mm-hmm. Exactly. That's it. Continues to appreciate,
1:00:18
dude. Yeah, it trips people up. Oh, the market's
1:00:22
gonna— is bad. Maybe I should wait. No. Oh, I don't have enough money.
1:00:24
No, you can use other people's money. You got to be coached on how to
1:00:27
do that. Those 3 things, those are the 3 things that are
1:00:31
in that little Flip System book that I talked about. It's the 3 things that
1:00:34
hold everyone back. That's, that's huge. And it's
1:00:37
absolutely true. And, and you're 100%
1:00:41
right. So, Rob, I do end every conversation with this same question.
1:00:47
What is one thing about purpose that you believe most
1:00:51
people are missing? Okay. It doesn't
1:00:56
matter where you come from. Or even where
1:01:00
you've been to get where you're designed to be.
1:01:05
I think it doesn't matter. It'll make
1:01:08
me cry because like you can take where I
1:01:12
was and you don't have to be in the same crappy
1:01:16
mud puddle that I was in. You can take whatever situation
1:01:20
you're in and plug it into that blank line That
1:01:25
does not matter when you're, when you're
1:01:28
going to where you're designed to be. Like,
1:01:32
I had to come out of it, but man, I'm living
1:01:36
the life I was designed to live. Absolutely.
1:01:39
It doesn't— and you're impacting so many people. Yeah, it just doesn't matter where
1:01:44
you've been. You can get where you're designed to be. Oh, I love
1:01:48
that. That is, you know, people say it a different way. Your past doesn't define
1:01:51
you. Right? It's just a different way of saying that.
1:01:54
Yeah. Well, and redemption is real too.
1:01:57
Like, your story is proof that your past does not
1:02:00
define you, that redemption is real, and that sometimes the
1:02:04
long way really is the way that prepares you for the life you were
1:02:09
created to live. That somehow everything did work for
1:02:12
you instead of happen to you. Dude, and I think that's
1:02:16
amazing, Rob. All those nights in my car, all those nights under
1:02:20
the bridge prepared me for where I am now. It prepared
1:02:25
me. I love that. And I love you, brother. I really appreciate you being on
1:02:28
here, Rob. I really do. Dude, thank you so much for having me.
1:02:32
You're so welcome. It has just been an amazing conversation.
1:02:36
It was everything I hoped it would be. And I'm so thankful for you.
1:02:39
For everyone who's listening, I'm going to put the links to Rob's
1:02:43
books, the coaching community, his website, social media, all that in the show notes.
1:02:47
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1:02:51
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1:03:26
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1:03:30
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1:04:22
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1:04:26
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