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"Winning" at Home & in Ministry with Jennifer Parr · How to Faith a Life Podcast with Faith Womack

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  SPEAKER_00: If you're listening to the How to Faith a Life podcast, where we wrestle with questions on how to live a life of faith, from everything from books to Bible studies, even Bible study tips, this is your place to wrestle with the hard questions and dive deep into what scripture really says for the Christian walk.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, with all that said, let's begin.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hi friends, welcome back to the How to Faith a Life podcast, a ministry of Bible Nerd Ministries.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited for today's episode because today we get to have another wonderful woman of the word today on the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now you might recognize her.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is Jennifer Parr.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've had her on, I think it was last season of my podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: She's a wonderful.
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  SPEAKER_00: She is married to Alan Parr.
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  SPEAKER_00: And together they co-founded a ministry called Let's Equip, Incorporated, which is dedicated to equipping believers with the tools, training, and teaching for life and ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: They have two precious children, Anaya and Micah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And she's a tennis girly.
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  SPEAKER_00: She shares tons of like cool stuff like healthy recipes or loving her husband, submitting to her husband, parenting stuff, like all of that beautiful stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really just evident in everything that she does that she wants to live out God's purpose and calling over her life with grace and authenticity.
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  SPEAKER_00: She has an amazing podcast called The Winning Women Podcast, and she shares tons of just very practical life advice and really like what the Lord's teaching her through life and loving him, which I think that's really why I wanted to have her back on the podcast because she's just such a great example of what it looks like to love the Lord and that work itself out in the way that you parent, in the way that you love and support your spouse in ministry, in the way that you also pick up a microphone and do ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, Jennifer, welcome to the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for having me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm so excited to be back.
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  SPEAKER_03: Your audience is amazing.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, hey, ladies, all the women out there, good to see you.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm glad to be back.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's so cool to gather over God's word and to talk about what it means in our life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think you do a really good job of applying God's word in very like practical, realistic, approachable ways.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like whether we're talking about confidence or whether we're talking about loving our spouse or teaching and discipling our children, like you make it very approachable, like very doable, not scary and overwhelming.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we share us a little bit about like your story.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, how did you get to be who you are today?
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  SPEAKER_00: What's your personal story, your background, your faith journey, and how did that lead you to where you are today in motherhood and ministry?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's so funny.
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  SPEAKER_03: As you were introducing me, you were like, I played tennis.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was like, Yep, that's been new.
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  SPEAKER_03: But the most recent thing has been sourdough.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like I recently got a starter and now I'm doing sourdough.
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  SPEAKER_03: But when I look at my life now, like, how did I get here?
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  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely not.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like when I was little, I did not think I was going to be playing tennis, having a family.
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  SPEAKER_03: I will get to that because I actually did not grow up with this idea that like I just wanted to stay home and get married and homeschool my kids and do that.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was just not me.
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  SPEAKER_03: I actually grew up the very opposite.
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  SPEAKER_03: But one thing that was true was that I grew up in the church.
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  SPEAKER_03: I grew up in the church, going to church every Sunday.
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  SPEAKER_03: Matter of fact, I may have shared this last time.
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  SPEAKER_03: If we did not wake up to go to church on Sunday, my parents would not let me do anything.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like I couldn't play with my friends, I couldn't go to this party.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like it was like, no, God is a priority.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it helped growing up in that environment, but my faith really did not take off until college.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think many of you watching, even you, faith, I think we all have that moment where it's like we actually have to now either defend or explain why we believe what we believe.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I went to a very diverse, very diverse college where there was a lot of Muslims, there was Buddhists, there was all type of all types of people.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it wasn't just believing what I believed in, but it was like, why are you a Christian?
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  SPEAKER_03: And that was when I started to just deep dive and ask those questions, ask those hard questions, like who is Jesus?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like we say we follow this man, but who is he?
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  SPEAKER_03: And then it's like, okay, I got that part.
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  SPEAKER_03: But then when you get married, which I got married in 2015, now it's like, how can I make Jesus the center of my marriage?
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then we had two kids, and then it's like, wait a minute, oh wait, God, you gotta show up here too, because this mama life is hard.
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  SPEAKER_03: So getting to where I was today, of being a mom, being a wife, being a friend, being a sister in Christ, just trying to be a servant, it's been the constant threat of going back to the Jesus that I learned.
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  SPEAKER_03: Not just the Jesus that I grew up that was taught to me, but the Jesus that I've learned, I've had to show up and make that foundation in everything.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so, does that make me a good mom?
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  SPEAKER_03: It makes me a better mom.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm sometimes a very impatient mom.
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  SPEAKER_03: I am sometimes, what's the word?
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, when you see like good things in your kids and you just want them to do well, but they're just not there yet where they see it in themselves.
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  SPEAKER_03: It makes me a very graceful mom, just going back to the word in marriage.
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  SPEAKER_03: Where does that show up?
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
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  SPEAKER_03: You talk about surrender.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, if I had it my way, if I had it my way, it would be this, this, this, and that.
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  SPEAKER_03: But then it's like, no, that's not the Jesus that I serve.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's not what we learn in the Bible.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, it's through him.
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  SPEAKER_03: So getting where I am today, I know it's cliche, but it is literally only going back to the foundation of who Jesus is and his characteristics.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to use those characteristics in my life every single day.
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  SPEAKER_00: I see Jesus lived out in you through all the things you do and the stuff that you share, and the even it's just like sourdough on your story, which is always beautiful, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know how you do it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, I haven't quite figured him out yet for tennis because like I'm struggling with like when I lose, like, how am I supposed to be Christ like when I just lost this match?
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't play professionally, guys.
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  SPEAKER_03: I literally, this is just recreation, but like he hasn't showed up there yet, but I'm sure I'll find him somewhere in the midst of that journey.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Hiya friends, I'm gonna interrupt this podcast really quickly because I want to make sure you don't miss out.
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  SPEAKER_00: You see, most Christians say they want to go deeper in their Bible, but here's the hard truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Most of us are studying it completely wrong, and that's why we can't go any deeper.
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  SPEAKER_00: But my new book, published by Zondervin, comes out November 18th, and it's titled No More Boring Bible Study.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wrote it because I'm tired of watching Christians settle for shallow devotionals and misused Bible verses that just end up robbing the word of its power.
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  SPEAKER_00: This book gives you the tools you were never taught, the stuff pastors learn in seminary, but most Christians never even hear.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're talking how to actually handle different types of biblical literature, how to stop twisting scripture to fit into your life, and how to finally hear God's word in truth.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you believe the Bible is true, you cannot afford to keep skimming it or even not understanding it.
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  SPEAKER_00: If it really is true, let's treat it like it is and feast on it.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you care about being faithful to God's word, this is the book you're going to want to pre-order.
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  SPEAKER_00: So here's my challenge: pause this podcast right now, go to Amazon and pre-order No More Boring Bible Study.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's also on all the other websites that you get books.
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  SPEAKER_00: But don't wait until you forget.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is your moment to choose.
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  SPEAKER_00: Do you want shallow, flimsy faith or deeper, richer study of the Bible that will actually change your life?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's No More Boring Bible Study by me, Faith Womack, and you can pre-order today so that as soon as it's out, it's on your doorstep, reminding you, oh yeah, this is what matters.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's read this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Don't miss out and forget because if we really believe the Bible's true, we're gonna prioritize it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now let's get back to the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now I gotta ask you, what inspired you to start the Winning Women podcast?
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  SPEAKER_00: What led to that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I believe that's new since we had our last podcast, you know, and for so long you were holding the camera for Alan, you know, you were behind the scenes in Let's Equip, you know, leading and serving, but now all of a sudden you've picking up a microphone and it's just reached so many people for Christ.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think just as a woman, and then I I really just want to speak to the women out there right now that I think no matter where we get to in life, there's always these peaks that we ask ourselves, like, okay, I got the job.
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  SPEAKER_03: I went to school for communications.
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  SPEAKER_03: I finally landed my dream job.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I say dream job, but it was just a job that I worked really hard to get, you know?
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  SPEAKER_03: And then it's like, okay, I got the job, and then I got the promotion, but it's like I still don't feel like I am truly winning for the women out there who are just waiting to get married, they're waiting for that right man to find them.
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  SPEAKER_03: They're just waiting to be in a godly marriage or even a godly relationship, and then they get the godly relationship or the husband, and then they're like, Okay, this is nice, but there's something missing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or you finally have kids and you're like, okay, now I'm a mother, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like another, it's like every time there's a title that is added to our resume, it feels good in the moment, but does it define us?
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  SPEAKER_03: And as I looked at my quote-unquote resume, I got to this place where I was like, God, I feel like I am winning, but winning according to what the world says is successful, according to what I'll be honest, social media paints as like the ideal mom or the ideal wife.
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  SPEAKER_03: But is that what God considers as winning?
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  SPEAKER_03: It came out of a pain point where I eventually left my job, the job that I loved, remember the job that I worked so hard at to come home, and for the first time, I didn't have the title of this high corporate C-suite or whatever title that we have to define me.
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  SPEAKER_03: And if I'm being honest, and you may have to think about this too.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes the title of mom and title of wife isn't even fulfilling in just the title alone.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it forces us, faith, to go deeper into what does it really mean to be a woman and to win in this world?
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's a countercultural approach that comes from Matthew, I believe it's 1626, where it's like, if you win, at what cost?
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  SPEAKER_03: If you win, but you lose your soul.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I'm paraphrasing, but I mean the scripture really is pointing us to think about what good is it if you gain the world, if you gain the wealth, if you gain the status, if you gain all of these things, the house, the bigger house, the garage, the bigger garage, all these things.
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  SPEAKER_03: But if you lose your soul, and that is the heart behind the podcast, is truly pointing women to win in different areas of their life, but win God's way, not the world's way, through just countercultural biblical living.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_00: That like brought me to tears because, first of all, you're just so good at communicating like God's story and his redemptive thread through your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: But you know, I think that does resonate with so many of us.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't find the title of mother or servant fulfilling.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like that's not got enough like significance or importance to it, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or we're looking for something else, but it's ultimately found in Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if we're not seeking him out, you know, yes, we're gonna search it for it after the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_03: So you and I'm sometimes, or even faith, sometimes we do, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: And then that becomes our world.
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  SPEAKER_03: I have so many friends now that their kids went off to college and they're like, Jennifer, I think my identity, my status, like my success was wrapped around my kids.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, I feel now that they're gone.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is just what they're saying.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, who am I?
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, so sometimes those statuses do fail you, and that could even be a problem because it's like everything, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Which we're called to steward.
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  SPEAKER_03: We are called to steward areas of influence well, but not for it to become our identity.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, a bale or ashera, you know, what we revolve around.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love so good.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now you and Alan have a very public ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: What has it been like partnering in life and ministry with him while also pursuing your voice and calling?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I you know, it's funny, I get that question asked a lot, and I think that's because people see him and they're just like, oh my gosh, this is Alan.
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  SPEAKER_03: But then they're like, oh wait, I know if he's doing this and he's got a family, then there's someone else in the picture, obviously.
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  SPEAKER_03: So when people discomfy, they're just like, oh my gosh, this is his wife, and she does this, and they have two kids and they're active.
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  SPEAKER_03: And wow, this is a busy family.
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  SPEAKER_03: What that has looked like over the years, Faith, it's actually been a really sweet journey.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I say that because sometimes I feel like this generation, when they're looking for a spouse or they're, you know, looking to be married, it's like he has to have this perfect package and he has to like already be like making all this money.
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  SPEAKER_03: And Alan and I started from very humble beginnings, and so from the beginning, we always came together for everything.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, if we had a topic idea for the beat, it was like, hey, babe, what do you think about this?
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  SPEAKER_03: I'd be like, Yeah, that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: Here's a perspective, here's a woman's perspective.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, feel free to use it or not, but just think about this.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so we've always came together, just to like whether it's brainstorm, but I trust what God has given him, his skill set in just teaching, whether he's teaching math, which is what he used to do, or teaching the Bible.
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  SPEAKER_03: He just has an amazing gift in that area.
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  SPEAKER_03: So my job has really just been an encourager.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I consider myself the chief encouragement officer of our home.
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  SPEAKER_03: I have to switch it up because like all my life it was like CEO, and CEO always met you like running the company, and it's like actually, I may be running the house, yes, but I'm the chief encouragement officer.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's a lot of encouragement, it's a lot of you can do this.
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  SPEAKER_03: Our kids believing in them when they probably don't see it in themselves yet.
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  SPEAKER_03: But over the years, it's changed, and I say that because when we first started the ministry, you know, I was there right there side by side.
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  SPEAKER_03: But then we had Anaya, and then we had Micah our kids are one and a half years apart.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like that 2002 stage was rough.
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  SPEAKER_03: But like I knew that when it got to that point where we were both tapped out in our capacity, God was kind of building something in me and like, Jennifer, you have this amazing skill set now that you have been given to be a mother.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that means nurturing, not just encouraging your husband, but nurturing your kids.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I actually had an opportunity to step back a little bit and just care for our home.
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  SPEAKER_03: Care for Alan.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, really care for him.
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  SPEAKER_03: When our husbands were in the forefront, whether they're pastors, whether they're preachers, whether they're leaders, like they're in the forefront.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it is our job, I feel like as women, just to be that safe landing place for them.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so when I pulled back a little bit, we hired a team, which was such a blessing, such a blessing.
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  SPEAKER_03: But now I get to use my skill set and I help manage our team.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm that chief encouragement officer for our team, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm the chief encouragement officer for our home and I just love to support whether it's people, whether it's our kids, whether it's Alan, I'm there.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now it's been interesting though, because as I'm using my gifts and women, I think that's the best place to start.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just asking, Lord, how can I use these gifts to serve others?
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  SPEAKER_03: Whether that's serving your spouse, serving your friends, serving at a church.
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  SPEAKER_03: The servant posture is the best posture to have when you want to be used.
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  SPEAKER_03: And God started storing up things in me and like you remember that communications gift that you had that you left your job for and you trusted me.
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  SPEAKER_03: I want you to use that gift.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, he didn't say it like that, but I'm just like paraphrasing God.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, you can use that gift, Jennifer, and serve women.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so that's now what I do is I love being the chief encouragement officer for women just to help point them to God's way of success, not the world's way.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so it's a lot of serving, it's a lot of encouraging.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you know what's coming next.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because when you're out pouring a lot, what happens?
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  SPEAKER_03: You're drained.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you get empty.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's where the word has come in.
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  SPEAKER_03: I used to go to my husband to try to fill me up.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's just as tapped out as I am.
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  SPEAKER_03: I usually try to go to my kids, like, hey guys, don't you think mommy's doing a great job?
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  SPEAKER_03: Listen, your kids will humble you, like they will be like, No, you were late when you picked me up from school.
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  SPEAKER_03: You were I couldn't get it there, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I didn't have a job anymore that affirmed me every day.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, Jeff, you're doing a great job.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so, literally, the word of God and just the way God is so tender about women.
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  SPEAKER_03: When he created us, he created us in such a tender way.
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  SPEAKER_03: It shows you how much he cares for us throughout the Bible.
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  SPEAKER_03: We see God's hand and how women are pivotal.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so the word fills me up when everything else drains me.
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  SPEAKER_03: Everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we love to call ourselves Bible nerds, but one of the top things, like comments I get on stuff, is like, yeah, I'm just like burnt out and I can't bring myself to actually read the word.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, but we're Bible nerds, like, guys, it's our everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: What are we doing if we're not reading the word?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're relying on somebody else.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love it, Jennifer.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, what rhythms and practices have helped you and Alan stay grounded as a couple in the midst of like all this intense ministry work?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, you know, it's funny because I love like your Bible study approach.
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  SPEAKER_03: I love it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, when I'm gonna go deep, I'm just like, oh yes, okay, this is a good one.
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  SPEAKER_03: And Alan has one too called the smart method.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's all these methods out there, but once again, like I'm gonna keep it real.
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  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes I'm like, okay, what does the S stand for?
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  SPEAKER_03: What is the M?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, what am I supposed to do?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, oh, what is the cross-reference?
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: So I literally had to simplify, simplify Bible study so that barrier of entry was removed.
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  SPEAKER_03: We can create so many barriers of entries just to pick up the word, just to say, like, what should I study?
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  SPEAKER_03: Where should I go?
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: Where did I leave off last time?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, what's happening?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like, it can be so much to where it's like, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm just gonna go do something else.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm just gonna go do something else.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_03: So I simplified Bible study in a way that I felt like makes sense for me, and I hope it makes sense for women too.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just the win method, it's just honestly a little acronym I put together, just because everything's about winning, and it's win.
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  SPEAKER_03: So when I open up the Bible or I have 10 minutes, maybe I have five minutes, maybe I literally have three minutes, and I know that's like, how do you study the Bible in three minutes?
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: You gotta simplify it because God can teach you so much if we just focus in his words.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_03: And so the W is what does the word say?
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_03: That's just a simple observation step.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_03: If you're just like, where do I start?
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_03: Just take a scripture, just take a verse.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_03: What does it say?
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_03: Now you're reading it, so you know what it says, but you want to look for like the who, the what, the when, like the repeated words that stand out, like summarizing what's happening.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_03: So that's just the first step.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_03: If I have a scripture, I'll just look at okay, what is it really saying here?
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_03: And then the I, remember, this is when, is just internalize it.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_03: I tend to spend a little bit more time in this because it's not just what the word says, but it's like, how can you use this to really reflect on what God is showing you, what God is revealing you, God's characteristics, like like what does this passage say about God's character?
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_03: If I can't find anything else, I'll just look for that.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_03: Especially like in numbers where it's just names after names after I'm like, God, what am I supposed to get from this?
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_03: But if you think about internalizing the truth, it's like every single one of those names, it mattered to him.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: You matter to him, right?
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_03: Those are just little ways that I can internalize and get something from it.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_03: And then the end is like, all right, so now I'm like, okay, I got five more minutes.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: God, okay, I've got the scripture, I've seen your goodness, your characteristics through this.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_03: What's the next step?
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what's what do I need to do?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_03: How does this apply to my life?
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: To be honest, we do read the Bible through our filtered lens of what we're going through.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: So if we're going through grief, if we're going through hard times, we tend to read from that perspective.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_03: And I think you can always invite the Holy Spirit just to guide you.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: Like in this verse, how does that apply to you?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_03: What's the next step of obedience?
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes that next step is like, you know what, Jennifer, you are gonna say something, but you need to just stop and not say anything.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_03: Let God handle this.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_03: Or that next step is like, take action.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_03: Just take action.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_03: But it's allowing the Holy Spirit to just guide you with wisdom into what that next step is.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_03: So that's literally my simple Bible study.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_03: And sometimes that can go for 30 minutes, sometimes that can go for five minutes, sometimes it can go for 10 minutes.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_03: And I use it with our kids too.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_03: We look at scripture, win, what does the word say?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, how do you internalize that?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: Like reflect on that, and then what are we gonna do next?
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: And so that has helped me, whether I've got a little bit of time or a lot of time, just to dig into the word.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: I love it so much.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it's so simple, it's so easy to be like, how am I gonna win today in my Bible study?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Win.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Easy.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_03: Win your days, win your moment, win the time, just win it, but win it biblically.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_00: So win it biblically.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: Hey friends, I'm gonna interrupt this podcast real quick because what if I told you your Bible study could actually change someone's life half a world away?
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: Not just your life, but their life too.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_00: In Kalungwar, Kenya, families wake up every day with zero access to clean water.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: But for$50, we can step in not only with a water filter that lasts 20 years, but with three discipleship visits, gospel conversations by local missionaries, and a connection to a solid local church.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: This isn't charity that replaces the church, it strengthens it.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_00: And the best part, it's not Americans flying in to save the day.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's local Kenyans, neighbors discipling neighbors in their own community.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_00: I went myself to check it all out.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: I paid my own way, it's not like they asked me to come out, but I can tell you, this ministry is the real deal.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_00: And they're doing kingdom work.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why I want us Bible nerds to be a part of it.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: Joe and I already gave$5,000, which is 100 water filters with the discipleship and the missionaries coming to the homes and all of that.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm asking the Bible nerd community to join me to do something bigger.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Let's fund 2,000 filters together.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's 2,000 families with clean water and the living water.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Please don't assume someone else will cover it.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: If you're hearing this, the need is still real.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_00: There's something so valuable in the worshipful response of saying, yes, Lord, use me, even with my couple of bucks.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: So before you keep listening to this awesome podcast, pull up the show notes.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: You'll see there a link to give as a Bible nerd, and even the map of where you can track the impact of our Bible nerd community in Kawanguari.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: You can see their faces, their names, some of the families I even got to meet who now have water because of you guys.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: Let's stop just reading the word and start living it out in our lives, even where it hurts, even in our wallets.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: Will you join me?
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Open the show notes now as we get back to this podcast.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: The Winning Women Podcast, speaking of winning, has a unique focus.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: What has been your heart behind the show?
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: And what do you hope women walk away with after they listen?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, my heart behind it really does come from that Matthew scripture.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I think when I think about that scripture, the central idea is this lasting joy.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: I think we all yearn for.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_03: It comes from living this life of integrity, living a life of purpose, which every woman is just trying to discover like, what is my purpose?
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_03: Living a life of spiritual death and just understanding that that is winning versus the things naturally, including myself that we pursue, which is fame.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, when I say fame, like, no, we're not all trying to be famous, but to some extent, we do want to feel like we matter, right?
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes we pursue pleasure.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: We go to things to fill us up, we go to social media, we go to this euphoric feeling.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_03: So I I think when I think of winning God's way versus the world's way, and at what cost, it's a simple reminder.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_03: Winning the world's way, the cost is just way too high.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_03: It's way too high.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_03: And it involves sacrificing one essential thing, and that's our moral compass.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_03: That's our moral compass.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_03: Every time that I find myself, I mean, we're in this season right now, we have a six and a seven-year-old, and our daughter is already asking for a phone, faith.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_03: Like, she's like, mommy, so-and-so has a phone.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: Or, hey, the other day, you know, you were looking for me.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_03: You know, if I had a phone, then you'd be able to get in touch with me.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, she's smart.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're using every chick in the book.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm sad to say that even at their age, I'm trying to teach them, you know what, it is okay if everybody else has a phone.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't mean you have to have a phone.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: Like, at what cost are we trying to do things the world's way and the way everyone else is doing it?
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_03: I don't even know if I should mention this, but right now, like, this K-pop demon hunter thing is a big deal.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like, every single one of our kids' friends have watched it.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_03: Even Christian friends.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm not here to talk about that, but we haven't watched it yet.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_03: So we were like, hey, um, our daughter's like, mommy, can we watch it?
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, no.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_03: And then the other day she was like, mommy, I'm the only one.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_03: I'm the only one in my class that hasn't watched it yet.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_03: Even the teacher has watched it.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, listen, if you all want to win in life, and this is to women out there, and this is to myself, you have to look at Matthew 1626 when it says, What good is it if you win, do everything the world's way, yet you forfeit your soul?
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_03: That is just the central line behind the podcast.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_03: That is my heart, just for women, is when you want to post that picture, when you want to do this.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, this may get more likes, but what does it show about your character?
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_03: What does it show about who you say you are?
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sure, you want to use these words that are not very encouraging, right?
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_03: What does that reveal?
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, the rest of the world could be doing that, but what does that reveal about God's character and who you are?
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: And so honestly, that's literally my heart is just to encourage women to live counterculturally and remember literally Matthew 16, 26.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_03: What good is it for someone to gain the world?
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_03: Gain whatever you have, but lose your soul.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, what has been the biggest challenge for you in doing this ministry and podcasting and talking about these things?
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: Do you personally feel really challenged in it in the way that you do it and like even the topics you choose?
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_03: The hardest challenge, Faith, is not saying yes to everything and really guarding what God has given me influence over.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_03: And that's my family, that's my home, that's my marriage, that is living out my purpose.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_03: That is the hardest thing.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_03: And I know that's that may not make sense, right?
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_03: But when I left my corporate job, the way the enemy attacked me was through busyness.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_03: If I was too busy, if I was working 80 hours a week, 40 hours a week, 30 hours a week, then it just kept me busy, right?
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: Now that I've removed the 40 hour a week outside of the home, I can become just as busy doing everything else and not serve my home in the way that God has called me to, serve my health, steward my body in the way that God has called me to.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_03: And so busyness is one of those things that because it's been such a distraction for me, I have had to guard it.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_03: I have had to understand there's a difference between being productive and being busy.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_03: I can be busy scrolling all day.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: I can be busy even sometimes just researching.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_03: But was I productive?
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_03: Did I spend time with God that day?
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like those are the things that I have to guard.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_03: And so that's actually the challenge.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_03: Even with Alan, too.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: Our yeses are yeses, but our no's are hard no's.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_03: And it's hard to say no to your family.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's hard to say no to the opportunity that's gonna provide more money for your family financially.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_03: But let's go backside scripture at what cost?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_03: At what cost?
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's interesting because I've had, you know, just by the grace of God, some amazing opportunities that I have respectfully had to say no to because I'm like, I can't do this on a Tuesday night.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_03: That that's our kids that it's our family night.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_03: Friday nights are our family night.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_03: That's a rhythm that we have in our home.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of like our home Sabbath in a way, and everybody wants to do things on Friday, like everybody, but I have had to guard that, guard it so much.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_03: Another thing that we have done, just like a rhythm, and this is specifically kind of for Alan, is because as content creators, it's easy to consume and consume.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we get ideas from consuming, right?
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_03: We've had to set some even boundaries on phones, like two-hour limit on this program, two-hour limit on this platform, and that's it.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_03: And once that timer goes off or that reminder goes off, it's like, God, can you use my attention in another way?
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: Because right now, this is getting all of my attention.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_03: The hardest thing is not creating the content because I feel like God has truly just opened up my eyes to the world and what the messages that women are receiving.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_03: So I I kind of always have something to talk about to help encourage women.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: But the hardest thing is God looking at my time, we only get 24 hours a day.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_03: How do you want me to steward this time, Lord, so I can serve the areas you've given me influence over?
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_03: And it's the saying no's and it's the saying yes, but it's the setting hard boundaries.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_03: That's the hardest part of ministry.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: Literally guarding your time with your husband, guarding time with your kids, guarding time for yourself because everyone will pull you in so many different directions.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, definitely.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: I know that all too well.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yep, you weren't directly speaking to me or anything.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's not exactly what I needed to hear or anything.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: If you could go back to your younger self and give her one piece of wisdom, what would you tell her, Jennifer?
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_03: So this is a little bit of a countercultural message, but I would tell her to embrace femininity as strength and not weakness.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_03: First off, the women in my family are just they're all strong.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lineage of women in our family that are just so strong.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_03: And so I grew up with the definition of strength being do more, definition of strength being be a boss babe, own your own stuff, don't rely on nobody.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes I can even transfer into don't rely on God.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, they don't say that, but we just become so independent and so in control, and we start to redefine what strength is.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I have learned that femininity, the way God created women in such a tender way, is actually our superpower.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: It's actually a strength, it is not a weakness at all.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_03: You know, when you go to a graduation or you go to a game, you're not supposed to have those big old megaphones.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_03: Like they're just so loud.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: They just come out of nowhere.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: You're just like, whoa, where was that?
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_03: Like, we get it.
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_03: Women, our femininity, our softness is that loud, it's that strong.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_03: If we embrace it, if we use it right, it is powerful, very powerful.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_03: It's the same reason why women can walk into a room and command attention, and it has nothing, nothing to do with our looks.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_03: God created us in such a unique way.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_03: And I think if women, the younger Jennifer, tapped into that, I would have had less fights, my tone would have been a little bit better, I probably would have made a little bit more friends, you know.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_03: But I feel like I had to just show up in a very maybe masculine way to be taken seriously, to know that I mattered when God's like, no, embrace your femininity as a strength, not a weakness.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: Now we do often view it as a weakness, even like emotions, like when I start to get teary in a movie or whatever, I'm like, I'm fine, you know?
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, no, like those are valid feelings.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: Jesus wept with answering.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I'm I was always apologizing for being emotional.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I still cry and I'm like, I'm sorry.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_03: What's the first thing we say?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: We're like, I'm sorry, I'm crying.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: Like, why are we apologizing for that?
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: God created emotions, and here's the beauty: He can handle our emotions.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_03: Men may not be able to, the world may not do, but God can handle our emotions.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_03: You talk about when I've had to surrender, oh my gosh, surrendering is one of those things where I go to God and I'm like, God, I'm really mad about it.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, I'm really mad at you right now.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_03: But God can handle that, and he just gently reminds us who he is, but he didn't give us his emotions just to like be running around like not knowing what to do.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_03: That God's like, I know those emotions because I created them.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_03: I can handle it.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, now I don't even apologize for crying anymore.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I can see a squirrel eating like a nut, and I'm like just crying because I'm like, God, it's amazing.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_02: And like I used to be like, I'm sorry, but I'm like, no, that's amazing.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I am crying over it.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: The squirrel eating the nut gets us.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: It's just chopping away, and I'll find you like, oh my god, that's a nice little meal right there.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: God, thank you for your creation of squirrels.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: I love it, guys.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: If y'all are not subscribed to the Winning Women podcast, you've gotta check it out because this is just such like the Jennifer and her cuteness and her humor and her wisdom, this is so good.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: I know I've thrown so many questions at you, but if you were to leave the women listening today with one truth nugget to challenge them in, what would you leave them with?
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_03: Recently, I've really been just diving into what faithfulness looks like.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_03: But it's not just faithfulness, it's faithfulness over fame.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: I think that is where women we we struggle a lot.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_03: We want to feel seen, we want to know that we matter.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_03: And I think the world paints it sometimes as like the seen acts are what matter, right?
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like what you're doing, what people can see is what matters.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_03: But to the woman out there who maybe is struggling in this area, doesn't feel valued, doesn't feel worthy.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_03: Choosing faithfulness over fame means that you really are focusing on the unseen.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_03: Not the seen, but the unseen.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_03: When people see the success of our channel, that is literally only by the grace of God.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_03: But it also is a lot of the unseen habits that go into making a channel like what we have.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_03: What people see is the subscriber, the video, the comments.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_03: But do you know how many moments just for that video to come out that we were flat on our faces with God, asking God to give us wisdom, asking God to guide our words, asking God to convict us, asking God to break our heart for what breaks his heart and then use us as a vessel.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_03: The unseen is what matters more than the seen.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_03: That goes for women, our looks.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, it's great to care about ourselves, but God cares about the heart, heart more than he cares about the exterior shell.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_03: And so being okay with not being seen.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: And I say seen because seen is kind of subjective, but understanding that God sees you and that's enough, and he will use you more when you have that posture than when you want to be.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: That's just a little encouragement to help you win your day, win your weak.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_03: Just hold on to that because the unseen faithfulness acts matter more than what we put out there.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_03: What we put out there is just the fruit of the hard work that we've done.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: Now I ask everybody this question that comes on the podcast.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, what are some tools or practices or resources that really help you in your Bible study, other than the win method?
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_03: First off, just being in the word, staying consistent in the word.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_03: I love daily audio Bible only because as a busy mom, as a busy woman, just in general, I'll confess I don't always have my physical Bible in front of me when I want to dive into the world, but I've also wanted to challenge myself to literally go through the Bible every year.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_03: So I listen to it.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: I listen on my walks, I listen on my the carpool line.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's so important for women to steward our bodies, move our bodies, and sometimes that's the best time to dive into the world.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_03: So I love listening to the Bible, uh Daily Audio Bible.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_03: There's also some other platforms out there that you can use, but I think every woman needs to have an audio Bible app downloaded on her phone.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like that is just the best resource.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_03: It really is.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: And then the win Bible study, obviously.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_03: Only because that's just something you keep in your head.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_03: It's easy.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_03: W-I-N, like, what does the word say?
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_03: How do I internalize it?
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: What's the next steps?
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_03: I do recommend because not only because I love it, like I'm diving into it, but your book.
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  SPEAKER_02: Faith, like I love your book, like, no more boring Bible study.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_03: That is the biggest barrier, is like we don't want to read something that's boring.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: We think it's boring.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, like getting a book like yours, or just a book that encourages you to really read the word and understand it, highlight how to just see God's hand through it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then my final one, just because I love community.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, all those things are things you can do by yourself.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I love studying the Bible in like community with women, with other women.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_03: This is like a little selfish plug.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not affiliated with them, but I love BSF.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_03: I love BSF because you can do that all over the world no matter where you're at.
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  SPEAKER_03: There is either BSF virtually or physically near you, and it's a way to just dive into God's word, but you're doing it with other women together.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_03: So those are just a few resources.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: I also list these resources or a few resources on my website, jenniferparr.com, just because I know too, like women, we hear these things, we're like, but I need to download something.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I need to see this win Bible study method.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_03: I need to see like all these things.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I have those resources on my website.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_03: Your book is a great tool, and then BSF, I think you can just Google it and find it.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_03: But those are just a few that I think every woman needs to have: a digital app, great resources, a good Bible study method, and find a way to do it in community.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: Now that leads me to my next question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Where can people find you?
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, so the Winnie Women Podcast is on all podcast platforms, so you can find it through whichever one works for you.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_03: I tend to be a Spotify girl, but sometimes I like Apple Podcasts, so it you can find it on your platform.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_03: But then also I am on social media, and so you can find me on Instagram, on Facebook, on Facebook, it's just Jennifer Parr.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_03: And on Instagram, it's Dose of Jen.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just little doses of me that you get.
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  SPEAKER_03: But the best way is shoot me an email.
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  SPEAKER_03: I would love to be praying for you.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_03: And you can find my email address and all that on jenniferparr.com.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_00: Jennifer, thank you so much for coming on, sharing your heart, sharing your ministry, sharing these nuggets of wisdom, even the win method.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's just been so rich.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: So thank you so much.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much for having me in go win this week, faith.
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  SPEAKER_03: Go in with your family, go in with your Bible study, go in with just what God has put in your heart to bless women.
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  SPEAKER_03: That is my prayer for you.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_03: And I pray the same for all of you that is watching this.
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  SPEAKER_03: So go win this week and make God proud.
• 37:14
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