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Episode 330: 'Intervention' (SG-U 2.01) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Are you doing a previously on thing, Brendan?
• 0:03
  Speaker 2: Probably not for this one.
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't need to play it because I've got
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: one for you. I've got one for you.
• 0:08
  Speaker 2: This is what destiny intended from the moment we entered
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: the star system.
• 0:12
  Speaker 3: Hello. Hi.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Elena Hoffman, David Blue, Lou Ferrera.
• 0:22
  Speaker 3: Sunday afternoon, baby.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: That's literally the opening of the audio commentary.
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: Like that's, that's the act. I didn't edit any of that.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: That is, that's the open of the episode. And then
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: it fades into the audio commentary and that's how they
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: opened it. And yeah, they said, um, Louie's already drunk.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: He's Sunday afternoon. He's already had two or three drinks
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: at one point. Um, uh, Elaine is like, okay, so
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: we know that two is, is Louie's limit. Um, and
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: then later on, later on the episode, Brody shows up
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: like in the, in the recording, Brody shows up. And
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: they're talking about how, like, it's the first time they've
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: all been together since, I think it was Elena Huffman's
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: 30th birthday or something like that.
• 1:04
  Speaker 3: And then the next five.
• 1:06
  Speaker 4: Something like that. I just wouldn't have guessed that I
• 1:09
  Speaker 4: was watching her in her early 20s. Sorry, late 20s. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:13
  Speaker 4: At the beginning of this show. That's crazy.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: And especially pregnant with her third or fourth child at
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: that point.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: But then the next five minutes is.
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: Is basically Louis Ferrer apologising as he goes around the
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: room and shows each person individually a photo from the party.
• 1:35
  Speaker 3: And he just apologises.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: He goes, sorry, the sound you're about to hear is
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: Eli Blue laughing as.
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  Speaker 3: I show him this photo.
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: And he showed him a photo that none of us
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: know what it is. And then he just goes around
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: and shows every single one of them. And so it's
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: just five minutes of them just laughing at this photo
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: and them apologising. It's absolutely one of the loosest audio
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: commentaries I've ever heard.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: Say what you want about this show, but the cast
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: sound like they have an absolute ball recording this. Yeah.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: In the audit commentary, I think David Blue was just like,
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: all we do is laugh and want to kiss each other.
• 2:08
  Speaker 3: Like that.
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: Sure, mate.
• 2:11
  Speaker 4: I just like that now we know how to say...
• 2:14
  Speaker 4: lose last night if we just put like roll the
• 2:16
  Speaker 4: R's there like yeah we don't have to do it
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  Speaker 4: properly now as long as we had a bit of
• 2:24
  Speaker 4: fun while we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: It yeah I apologize for not grabbing the audio just
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: because it was a little bit sort of overlappy because
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: they're all just talking over each other he does do
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: a Sylvester Stallone impersonation in the audio commentary as well
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: so there's.
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: That magic who does Louis Ferreira. Oh, good. I thought
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: you were going to say David Blue.
• 2:44
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have brought that up.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: You damn dirty apes. By the way, I can do
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: Rocky if you want that in the show. No, thanks. Nah,
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: that's good.
• 2:55
  Speaker 4: We'll be right.
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: We're done with the quotes.
• 2:56
  Speaker 3: Let's not say we did.
• 3:00
  Speaker 4: Well, that's really good, David. Never do it again.
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: Do you want it in the show?
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: What's that?
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  Speaker 1: The video of them at Stonehenge when... Beckett's like, shut up, David.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: Shut the f * * * up, David.
• 3:12
  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: So good, man.
• 3:31
  Speaker 4: Get into Gate episode 306. 30. Oh, God, don't you
• 3:36
  Speaker 4: love the sound of that? It just sounds clean. Mitch, Matty,
• 3:40
  Speaker 4: Brendan here to talk some SGU. What's going on, boys?
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: It's a Leoplerodon.
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, we're on Zoom. Couldn't be helped. Don't worry
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: about it. So don't complain about the audio quality.
• 3:52
  Speaker 4: I already prefaced this last week, saying it was a
• 3:54
  Speaker 4: bit of a hashtag blame Mitch situation. And until it's not,
• 3:57
  Speaker 4: it is. So let's just keep it that way. And
• 3:59
  Speaker 4: that's purely for... I like that more, yeah.
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: Fair rule.
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  Speaker 4: Can that, I mean, have we got that as a
• 4:05
  Speaker 4: t-shirt option? Is it just like hashtag blame Mitch? You know,
• 4:08
  Speaker 4: I just feel like we're just.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sarah made heaps of them.
• 4:11
  Speaker 4: That's a suggestion. Buy an S collard.
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  Speaker 1: One for each of four of her kids.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we got an order of five.
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  Speaker 4: That's so weird. All going to the same address.
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  Speaker 2: I think she made some for my house too. Hashtag
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  Speaker 2: blame Brendan.
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  Speaker 4: And Josh's just to round it out since we all met.
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: Let's do some blame Mitch shirts, but we'll do it
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: in the clag logo.
• 4:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, that is magic. God, that's good. I only
• 4:35
  Speaker 4: saw that shirt the other day, and I'm like, I
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  Speaker 4: think I might wear that to work, just to see
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  Speaker 4: if anyone just... Oh, the one.
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: With the mysterious Brendan-smelling stains on it?
• 4:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, mystery to you. Anyway, we are
• 4:46
  Speaker 4: talking SGU. Episode one of season two, finally, for me,
• 4:50
  Speaker 4: into the second half of my SGU journey. We're talking intervention, guys,
• 4:55
  Speaker 4: which is what Brendan seemed to have needed. After the
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  Speaker 4: last episode of SGU. In fact, he took a three-year
• 5:02
  Speaker 4: hibernation from the show. A little hiatus. Back on the wagon. Yeah,
• 5:07
  Speaker 4: we're back on the wagon with episode one, Intervention. Let's
• 5:10
  Speaker 4: rip into the old synopsis and see how it sounds.
• 5:14
  Speaker 4: After Colonel Young and his military personnel are captured by
• 5:17
  Speaker 4: the Lucian Alliance, Danik... that guy that we all know very,
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  Speaker 4: very well, abandons them on a nearby planet. Meanwhile, on
• 5:25
  Speaker 4: the ship, Dr. Rush, Brody, Chloe, and Eli attempt a
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  Speaker 4: risky plan to force the Lucians to surrender.
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: The Lucians? I mean, there's so many things in that.
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  Speaker 4: The old Lucians. Written by Joel and Paul.
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  Speaker 1: I just love that guy's name is Danik.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Danik.
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  Speaker 2: Joel and Paul.
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  Speaker 4: And Annie Mikita, director, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Andy.
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So... Well, I was going to ask you, Brendan, because
• 5:51
  Speaker 4: obviously this is your first one back after the thing,
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  Speaker 4: but I might just quickly get into it for myself,
• 5:55
  Speaker 4: being that first timer. Yeah, it was weird. I hadn't
• 6:00
  Speaker 4: thought about it for about an hour after we finished,
• 6:02
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, what was my takeaway? What was
• 6:05
  Speaker 4: that even about? It was kind of really just about
• 6:08
  Speaker 4: the TJ of it, right? And then everything else was like, well,
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  Speaker 4: we kind of got to take over the ship. Let's
• 6:14
  Speaker 4: just have some gunfight and stuff, which I enjoyed a
• 6:16
  Speaker 4: lot of it, but at the same time, it didn't
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  Speaker 4: really feel like That's what the episode was about. The
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  Speaker 4: last two episodes really felt like they were building up
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  Speaker 4: the takeover of the ship and setting up the cliffhanger
• 6:27
  Speaker 4: for the end of the season. But this one was like, hey,
• 6:29
  Speaker 4: we just need to sort TJ out. You know, she
• 6:32
  Speaker 4: was the last shot of the previously on so that
• 6:35
  Speaker 4: she could be the first shot of this new narrative.
• 6:37
  Speaker 4: And like, as far as.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's my first note. TJ, hair chat. Mitch, go.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: Hair chats.
• 6:46
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm about midway through watching this. And my wife
• 6:49
  Speaker 4: walked past and I'm like, she walks in and I'm like,
• 6:52
  Speaker 4: now her hair, like just on a scale of wonder
• 6:55
  Speaker 4: how complicated.
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: Imagine if Reese was still here. Oh, I know. Hair chats.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: Some of the great hair we've seen in Stargate. It's
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: a pleasure to see such great hair.
• 7:09
  Speaker 4: I reckon if Colonel Young let his grow out, I
• 7:11
  Speaker 4: reckon old, old Louie would have like a, if he
• 7:14
  Speaker 4: just like, let it go, not quite shoulder length, but
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  Speaker 4: like a little 70s, I reckon he would have just
• 7:19
  Speaker 4: luscious locks. You know, I think I'd like to just
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: lose the military. Stay tuned, mate.
• 7:23
  Speaker 3: Stay tuned.
• 7:24
  Speaker 4: Oh shit. Okay, good.
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  Speaker 2: I was just shrugging my shoulders, looking at Matty going,
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  Speaker 2: it's coming. It was a weird.
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  Speaker 4: Stance that you had there, Brendan.
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  Speaker 1: I can't, I can't see you. My screen's jumping between
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  Speaker 1: the two of you.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're changing your view, mate. What's wrong with you?
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: How do I do that? I don't know what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 4: It's the top, Beyond hair chat, Brendan, given that you
• 7:43
  Speaker 4: said that the season finale of season one actually turned
• 7:46
  Speaker 4: you off the show, you were so frustrated by so
• 7:49
  Speaker 4: much of it and the choices made that you had
• 7:52
  Speaker 4: to switch off for a couple of years. Did you
• 7:55
  Speaker 4: actually rewatch season one before you jumped back on to this?
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so you did that and then you... I usually skip.
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: Incursion.
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  Speaker 4: Right, okay. Okay. I mean, either way, there's kind of
• 8:07
  Speaker 4: a bit of pressure.
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  Speaker 2: And I skim through this to the TJ bits.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 2: Because everything else, I just look at it and go, oh,
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: my God, Young's a fucking idiot. I can't help it.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: I can't help but think that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: The guy could have just ended it day one, but
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: instead he loses people on his team. He loses his
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: own child. And you're like, you're a fucking retard. Like,
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: I can't, I have no other words for it.
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it great how we got all that resolution on
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: Commander Kiva, like the way she was built up for.
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: Two whole episodes? Oh, so they couldn't afford her.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: This real badass, and then it's left on a cliffhanger,
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: and we never see her again.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: Didn't even see her under a sheet. Yeah.
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: What we did see, though, is we did see a
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: new hot, petite, red-headed genius. that we conveniently didn't see
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: come through the gate in the last two episodes.
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: I would have noticed that 12-year-old boy arse anywhere.
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: That's what Scott said.
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, you just, you never know where Britain's going
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: to go with these things. You just can't, it's unpredictable.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: You got nasty like a 12-year-old boy.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: It's not me, mate. It's Lieutenant Scott, okay? All right.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: I have no words. I have no words.
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: Well, either way, I was going to say, Brendan, either way,
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of pressure on this episode, and whether
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: you were coming in off the back of three years
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: of being away from the show and not re-watching season one,
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: or pushing yourself through season one again, knowing that you
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: were going to be frustrated at the end, only to
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: then get to the first episode of the next season going,
• 9:57
  Speaker 4: is this just going to turn me off for good,
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: or or is it going to redeem itself or something?
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: So what was your first reaction to watching this?
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: Well, I liked all the TJ bits.
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: And what about the episode?
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  Speaker 2: Not really. I was just like, I'm just going to
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: get through this because it seemed to me like they
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: wrote themselves in a corner last year to get to
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: a cliffhanger and then now they just had to resolve
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: this as quickly as possible. It's like, yeah, all right,
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: rush you in. Heidi McRedhead shoots up Baldy in the
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: back and that's it.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: And that really amazing, well-written... resolution to Chloe story where
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: she spent the entire last episode bleeding out and you
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: thought she was going to die.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: And then, and then Eli leaves her and then she
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: comes up and she literally just says, I guess I'm okay.
• 10:55
  Speaker 4: That again had me thinking of, you know, I referenced
• 10:58
  Speaker 4: that Ralph Wiggum clip, which you might not remember, but
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: when he's the biblical one.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: I remember when you said it.
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. That's what I mean. Like, I'm not
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: the only reference point, but like the idea of like,
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: she walks into the room, like, I thought you were dying.
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: It's like, nope. Like, that's it. Now, the amount of
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: times it was brought up, the amount of times she
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: looked or other people looked or were touching it and stuff,
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: and the fact that, like, clearly their lives are saved,
• 11:19
  Speaker 4: what do her and Matt have to do? Obviously go
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: and root each other. And then she's sitting there staring
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: at the scar and it's like, okay, well, what's going
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: to go on there? At me as a first-time viewer,
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, something's going on. Like, there's just a
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: lot of changes made.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: I thought it was just she wanted Eli to get
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: some exercise. She just kind of bunged it on a bit.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: I really hurt, Eli. I thought you were dying.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: I thought you were shot.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: And she's like, barely an inconvenience.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: Every time you put her down, she just starts picking
• 11:50
  Speaker 4: at it to make it bleed more. God, mate, it
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: looks like I still can't walk. Got to keep going.
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: Make sure that one shirt that you've got is still
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: really sweaty.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: He's definitely lost some weight between seasons.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: So he's looking great. He went to the Daniel Jackson
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: School of Stargate.
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: Started hitting the gym with old Chrissy Judge.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: I did find out in the audio commentary something interesting
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: about his, you know, iconic You Are Here shirt. That
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: was something that obviously had to be cleared by legal
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that because it's a, you know.
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: Controversial?
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: Well, just a shirt that they bought that obviously they
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: had to get someone's clearance of. The one that David
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: Blue wanted was a blue T-shirt and.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: And, you know, the Mr.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: Men characters, you know, the Mr. Strong, Little Miss Sunshine,
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: all those people.
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: It was one that said Mr.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: Well Hung.
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't have thought so, mate. It didn't get across the line.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: No, surprisingly, surprisingly, they went, no, we don't want to
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: have Eli wearing that shirt for the entire series. We'll
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: just stick with the red, you know, you are here.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: So they didn't even write that bit. They just found
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: a T-shirt.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they found that T-shirt. Wouldn't that be funny?
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Because he's lost in another galaxy. And he's fat, so.
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: He's the big red dot, basically.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: We don't have blue-red dots, do we?
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: No.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: No, exactly.
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: So is there any behind-the-scenes stuff, just with when you
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: mentioned Kiva before? It's Rona Meacham. She's not the biggest
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: star in the world, but obviously she pops on screen.
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: We know who she was. And she's a bit of a.
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: A genre journey woman at the time. I mean, continues
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: to be, but when she gets shot, I'm like, I'm
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: assuming that she didn't know that she was coming back,
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: you know, between seasons. They're just like giving her agent
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: a call when actually not required. Don't, don't worry about it.
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: Like that just seemed like a, you know, like for
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: that to happen. And then for Chloe, like she was dying,
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: but then in the off season, they went, you know what, let's,
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: let's start planting seeds. We've got something crazy. That's going
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: to happen. It's going to, let's start it off by
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: her magically healing. Like, It didn't feel like a part
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: three in the way that a lot of these have
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: done in the past where it does wrap up what
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: you've started last season. And then episode two really kicks
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: off the new season. We can start to develop more things.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: This is sort of like, oh, by the way, this
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: was all part of the plan along the way. So,
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'll allow it. My first time watching, Chloe's
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: got something weird going on. There's other aliens or not
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: going on with the whole TJ thing. Like it was...
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: especially with you guys saying season two makes the show,
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: you know, better than season one does. It finds its place.
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: And also that you've told me you will not believe
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: where this show goes. So I'm kind of looking at
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: everything that, you know, raises my eyebrow to going, oh,
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: this is it. Oh, this is going to be the
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: start of something wild. So I don't know. Maybe it's
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: just going to be Young's hair getting down a shoulder
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: length that makes me go crazy. I don't know, man.
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: I'm so excited.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Not quite shoulder-length, but it is funny when you look
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: at what they look like at the end of season
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: two and then you watch season one again, you're like, what?
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: I even thought the cinematography was so different in this episode.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: Especially in those early scenes where, how do you pronounce
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: his name? Dupod? Something like that? Oh, Mike Dupod. Yeah,
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: when he walked in.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: Who are you talking about? Who is he?
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I can't say anything or it'll be a spoiler. Brendan
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: will say it's a spoiler.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, we're talking about Teabag?
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: No, no. We're talking the bounty hunter from SG-1.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I forgot his name.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: That's my bad.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what his character name is.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: But when he bounces in, he's like, oh, yeah, and
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: the medical, the doctor, she got shot as well. And
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: old mate's just like, good, I'm glad she did it,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: you know? And then, like, Young just launches himself at
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: this guy. And I really noticed how, like, tungsten-y the
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: lighting was. It was so, it was very grainy, but
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: it was very yellowy and shit. I'm like, I feel
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: like that wasn't what it looked like. I mean, who cares? Like,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: conditions on the ship could have changed or whatever, but.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: It just really felt like.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: It was the pulsar on the outside of the ship, Mitch.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Exactly, exactly. Yeah, it's radiation. Radiation.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Through the hull.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I did see that, actually, in the credits. I'm watching it,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: and when it popped up, and Robert Knepper. And I'm like, oh, shit,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: T-Bag's coming along. This is cool. But I'm like, oh,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: where's he going to come into it? What's he going
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: to be? And then when he just happened, he's like, oh,
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: he was always on the ship. We just never saw
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: him last season. And same with old... Actually, I don't
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: want to nickname her. I don't want to nickname her.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll wait. We'll workshop that one.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Two eggs in a hanky?
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: We'll come back.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: We'll come back on that.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: I wanted to say Heidi Mick Redhead, but I thought
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: you were going to say something to do with a 12-year-old.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to do it. You're not going to
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Run that one past legal and then we'll come back.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, legal being our wives, I think. Does it pass
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: the marriage test?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I found out the other day?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Apparently not a single Christopher Nolan film passes the Bechdel test.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Like, not one.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, no. He barely has any women in it. Women
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: don't talk very much at all in his films, if
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: they exist at all. Crazy. Crazy, crazy, crazy.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, they've also been accused of having no emotion.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: So if you can't have emotion, you can't have women, obviously.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: They're the emotional heart of these stories, Matthew. So, yeah.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: The Views Express or Mitchell James Lewis do not include
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: those in Get It To Gate LLC.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: You don't agree that women show emotional range in watching
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: film and television?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: That's not what you said.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: You said women were emotional. You said women were emotional. No,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I said they are the emotional heart of stories and
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: you denied that. You actually said that those views do
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: not match yours. That's interesting. Anyway.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I show more respect to female characters.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: The views expressed by Mitchell, James and Lewis are his
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: and do not reflect those of Gatorgate LLC.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: The fact that you said that was very noted. So
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: whether you're distancing yourself away from me saying that women
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: are respectable and equal characters in stories, that's fine.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: You didn't use any of those adjectives.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I feel like it was implied. You said women are emotional, mate. No,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: you can read between the lines.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I said they nag a lot. Does that help? Does
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: that help?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Another shout out to Badana.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: How are you? So what did you make of the
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: heaven or whatever that was?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, I mean, usually when stuff like this happens, okay,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: this is just in her head. It's her way of
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: dealing with it. We can see her body, you know,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: like if it is a physical thing, clearly she is
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: still on the ship and this is just her like consciousness,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: you know, coming up with some type of, you know, narrative, fantasy, whatever,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: to deal with what's going on. but of course this
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: is Stargate.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: This is sci-fi.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: And in particular, this is Stargate universe. So there is
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: a chance that what's being talked about here, um, by
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: old mate, whose name escapes me is real. God boy. Yeah.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: God boy.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Dr.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Creepy God boy. Especially when they are, they are coming
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: off like a little bit different. Like they've, you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: they've found God and like four minutes later, they're, you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: like lifetime, you know, believers or whatever.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: But, um, We found God in a hopeless place. Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: But then, I don't know, like, it was... We don't
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: obviously find out too much, but then going out and
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: then seeing that phenomenon in the sky and the star
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: cluster that was or whatever, and then to get to
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: the end and that's what she sees, it's like, okay, well,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: you know, she's seen a lot of shit, but she couldn't, like,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: just presume that sort of vision and come up with
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: it in her own head and then for it to match. And, like,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: that was... You know, something's going to tug on your
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: heartstrings in this episode. It's going to be that, like
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: she's seeing that. And it's like, she may as well,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: they may as well refer to that as the, as,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: as the common, whatever, you know, like she could call
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: it that, like that's.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: The problem is though, is, is the, the, the deleted
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: scene you didn't say it was, was the actual ending
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: of the episode where, Where after that, after she went
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and saw the Carmen nebula, she then had to go
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: and bury her child's body.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought this time around. I'm going,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: where's the body?
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I found myself going, why is no one else weirded
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: out by the fact that she seems to no longer...
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Because when they walked in, and I know, Camille, is
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: this the start of when you said to me at
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: the last SGU podcast, oh, you just wait. She can
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: do everything in season two. I'm like, is she operating
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: on these people? I know that she had a doctor
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: take over her body, but then she seemed really like
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: aware of everything that was going on and really emotionally invested.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: So when she's like, oh, TJ, whatever, oh, the baby, oh,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: they're doing everything they can. She's really sad and whatnot.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, I didn't, I took that as if
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: they were still trying, like the heartbeat was weak, whatever
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: was going on, that the baby was still obviously inside
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: of her, she's dying. They're trying to save its life,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: both their lives. And then come the end where they're like,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: there she is. They take the blanket off. She's clearly
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: not pregnant anymore. The baby's not still inside her and
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: no one's weirded out by that. And I'm like, at
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: what stage did the vacuum come out? Yeah. So did
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: like these, did that really happen? And, and, and the
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: consciousness of the baby has been physically transported to um
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: across the universe she's there you know.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Across the universe.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: But then still no one's weirded out like is is
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: the baby just going to be like some weird you
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: know phantom memory that everyone on the ship is going
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: to have but she's going to know that it was
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: real and then obviously we saw that young was you
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: know well i i hope that's the reason but he
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: was pretty pretty affected by by that uh maybe it
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: was just wait till next week sure sure um and
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: how much of that is um You know, just by,
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: by TJ, like, you know, I I've, I've been in
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: that situation. We had, we had a miscarriage between our
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: first and our second boys and it was after like
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: seven weeks or so. And like, so we'd known about, Oh, maybe,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: maybe a week or two later that, but like it
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: was early on, but we'd known about it for, for
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks and then. You know, but I'm
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: not like, I can't see it. You know, there's no
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: sort of physical transformation. And Sarah, you can't see that
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: she's pregnant. I can't feel what she's feeling. So when
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: we found out that we'd lost the baby, like my reaction,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: my emotion, my sadness was around her. Like not the
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: idea of this baby or anything. And once we had
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: my second kid, I'm like, had we have had that baby,
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I don't get Luke. And I'm like, I can't imagine
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: a world without Luke. So it's almost like that's just
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: completely in my past. So I'm looking at him going,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: was he reacting to TJ?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Because he never saw this baby. He saw it growing
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: inside of her, but how much of his emotion is
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: driven by how upset she clearly was, where she couldn't
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: even look at him. And then I'm thinking, I'm like, shit,
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: like you hear those stories, right? Those, those women like who,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: who can't conceive easily. And, and when pregnancies fail in
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: the early stages so often, and it's mainly through film
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: and TV that I watch it, but I mean, I
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: guess some of this, you know, the writing stages is
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: coming from, from real world events and whatnot. And, And
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: these women say they feel like failures and they feel
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: like they're letting their partner down and their future children down.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: They're letting themselves down by not being able to do
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: something that is in no way, shape or form their control.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: So seeing TJ just sort of like look away from
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Young as she was crying, she's so overwhelmed with emotion.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: But then also with him added into it as well,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: it was like, I don't know, it's just a lot.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: And it was all in a montage to what, Mumford
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: and Sons needle drop?
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I don't like the... Bloody needle drops.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Just frustrating.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: The most 2011 band ever, Mumford & Sons.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. I've never minded them so much in this
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: show as this where I'm like, I'm interested in everything
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: that's going on here. Show me this. Show me this
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: for five minutes. Show me this for ten minutes where
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: I'm getting dialogue. Funny, actually, the Mumford & Sons because
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: that was the band that my radio show was interviewing
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: and I was producing for and my wife was waiting
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: downstairs in the car. having her waters having already had
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: broken and I was taken to the hospital. I'm like,
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: if you just give me a second, we're just interviewing
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Mumford and Sons. I'll be down in 10. And then
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: my first- So Stargate Universe, guys, you're in that. Nine,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: nine later. Yeah, well, actually, that would have been about
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: a year later. Yeah, well, what's this, like 2011, this thing?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: September 2010. September 2010.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, October 2012 was- was when the interview happened.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: So yeah, long past, long past.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was, yeah, it was a lot going on.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Imagine if that whole montage had been like a Jerry Goldsmith, sorry,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Joel Goldsmith score.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been way better.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Doing what he knows, doing what he knows best.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Because I don't believe he passed away yet at this point,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: didn't he? He passed away very soon after.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: After.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: After Universe, right?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a year after.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I agree that Yeah, the TJ stuff is the most
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: interesting and important stuff in this episode. But other than that,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what? I guess now, because we're
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: going to have to... This isn't going to be a four-parter.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: We're going to need control of this ship by the
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: end of this episode. So I'm like, just give me
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: some no-holds-barred, TV-friendly action, obviously, where they just take control.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: And when Scott and Greer got back... uh, inside the ship.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: And it's like, all right, give us 15 minutes. We'll
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: go in and we'll do. And I'm like, hell yes.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Just let Greer take the leash off and let him
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: go out there and John Wick these priests, you know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: and just completely take things down. And like, we didn't
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: get that, but also I like seeing these characters go
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: into these situations. Cause I naturally assume that a lot
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: of the enemies that, you know, SG1, SGA have, have
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: always taken on untrained, you know, like I assume that
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Jafar and I are out there going through rigorous military training.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: It's just like, hey, slave boy, put this armour on
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: and you now fight for Apophis. Here's a weapon. Here's
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: a snake helmet. Go.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: No, we did see, remember in the.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, there's definitely training, yeah.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Remember the way we were in Chainmail to bed? That's
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: first prime training. Yeah, you're probably right. Throw him as
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that and get out there, you mug. Yeah, he's going
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to die anyway.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like Greer and Scott have definitely had way more
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: training than people I hope in the Lucian Alliance. So
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I'm like, if you're going to have these two guys
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: go up against another two guys, our guys are going
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: to win. Okay, they've got plot armor on them. They've
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: got main character energy. But at the same time, I'm like,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: surely they should not have, unless it's 20 to 1.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: And even then, I would kind of still back them
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: for plot armor. But surely I would back these guys
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: because of how much training they've went through in the
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: American military.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I had an issue with their plot, though, because it
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: either didn't make sense or we didn't get a resolution
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to it because maybe a scene was cut for time
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: or something like that. But after they get back inside
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: and hook up with Chloe and Eli and they say, OK,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: we need to separate. You guys need to go rush.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: We're going to go and do some recon.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: So Greer and Scott go off and do their recon,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: boot leather, boot leather, boot leather. They take out a
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: couple of guys. They're hiding from a couple of guys
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: at about 11 minutes into the episode. And Greer says,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: we need weapons. And then Scott says, there's something else
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: we need more. But then the next time we see
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: them is at the 20 minute mark where they meet
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: back up with Chloe and Eli who are with Rush
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. And then he just like,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh, we have Intel. We know this, we
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: know this, we know this, but we didn't see it.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And we already knew they were going to get recon.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: So why did he say there's something we need more
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: than weapons? Like, I just, it just felt weird and
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: out of place. Like I think it would've been better
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: if there just wasn't a line at all. And it
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: was just them evading, you know, people or being in
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the background while things were happening. So we understood that, oh,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: they're finding out all this information about, you know, what
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the new status quo is.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: It almost needed a soap opera, like, dramatic zoom in. Like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: we need something more.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Don't twist the knife, Mitch. As of recording this, it's
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Thursday night for us here in Australia. The latest episode
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of Star Trek Strange New World has dropped.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: And while you guys took a dinner break, I watched
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the first sort of 15, 20 minutes of that. And
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: every episode this season has been some kind of terrible
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: genre gimmick. And this week's is Days of Our Lives.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Oh, great.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: So it's a, yeah, it's a.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Why are they doing that?
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Don't ask me, mate. I got no idea.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Strange. It's very sad.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Strange new worlds indeed.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: What I did love about the plan to, like, you know,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: for Rush and his group to retake the ship and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff You know, because my first, oh, yeah, just,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you know, turn off the air supply to everybody or
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: turn off the shield so they all get a radio.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: And they're like, yeah, but TJ.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, yeah, we've got to save TJ.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: At no point did any of them say Telford's name.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: At any point.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: They're like, we have to rescue TJ. No one gave
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: a fuck about rescuing Telford.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm like. I was actually confused. I remember the
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: first time I watched this, I was like, I just
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: assumed Telford was a bad guy. Still, I never bought
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: the whole brainwashing shit.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean, it was just such a big
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: point of the previous episode and, you know, Scott blowing
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: up the locks about it because he wasn't being told
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: about it and all that kind of stuff.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: But I never had any emotional attachment to him, so
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't care. It's not like when Tilt
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: got brainwashed and you actually gave a shit. He's just like,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I was with Camille almost from last episode where she's like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: are we really going to trust this guy?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: That's a big call for you to say you're on
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Camille's team.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: She's no weird, mate.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Damn straight.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Damn skippy.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: I did see the old lady, though, at the end.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, did you?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she gave Camille a little smile, a little nod,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: a little, hey, what are you doing?
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: What are you doing later?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: I'm old and curious.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: My husband is lazy.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You ever seen me suck a soup dumpling?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Take my dentures out and....
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Shit, yeah.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've never engaged in any conversation around this
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: old woman. I've just always chalked it up as me
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: having missed her. At this juncture, just you bringing that up,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: then I'm like, is it at this point where I
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: raise and I go, okay... This is like a joke
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: on me, right? Like she actually doesn't exist. And then,
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: you know, next week I'll go, oh, no, that's her. Yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: I have seen her before.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I never noticed her until Brendan brought her up in
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: season one. I've never noticed her before in my entire life.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Okay. So she's real.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just like those Marvel Universe extras.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: As real as TJ's baby is. So, yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I've seen those Marvel extras.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Not the Marvel extra from Doctor Strange, the Multiverse of
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: Madness in the Church, where she's like over.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I've seen that on Instagram.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Looks a lot like her, actually, yeah.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, yeah.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a bit older.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Speaking of TJ's baby, I do want to make a
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: formal statement in terms of in the last episode, or
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: was it the finale episode or our special episode after that?
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: When I made a joke that.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: TJ loses the baby. And Brendan's like, spoiler, spoiler.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I had no idea.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I remember the baby going to live on the, on
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the God planet at some point, but I do not
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: remember her losing the baby at all. Cause to me,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: it's creepy as hell.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say, cause you, it's
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: a clump of cells.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Well, that too.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Um, but just the fact that they wrote in Elena
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Huffman's real baby.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Was it her real child?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, not the baby that was in the show.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: That wasn't her. That wasn't her actual baby.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: The fact that they wrote in her real life pregnancy
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: into the show to then, as soon as she popped
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: that kid out, she's like, dead baby. So she's basically
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: got to mourn the baby that she, like, TJ is
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: mourning the bump that Elena.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Had in real life.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Like, it's a weird, creepy kind of thing.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I think if I ever interviewed Elena Huffman, I would
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: have asked, that's got to be weird, right?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: You literally just have your baby, and then you have
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: to pretend that your baby died.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like in this.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: And we're going to film it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: In the commentary, she says, like, her actual baby is, like,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: three months old at this point.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: Fucking Cooper?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Sick fuck.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does feel that way. It just felt very,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: very creepy to me.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: The other creepy thing, and how you can tell this
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: is written by men, is also that weird thing when.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: TJ's in the cabin.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: And Paul. When TJ's in the cabin talking with Dr. McCreepy.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. She should be talking.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: She's barefoot and pregnant. Close enough.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: The other two people come to visit. And they hug
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: TJ and say, hi, how are you going? And they're like,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: we're here to see the baby. And she's like, the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: baby's sleeping. And they're like, we'll be quiet.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And then walk away and then go and stare at
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: her baby while she's not even in the room with
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: them and ignore her.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: And then God Boy's like, hey, cool, we can go
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: for a walk now. She's like, what if the baby goes?
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: They'll look after her. And I'm like, don't even worry
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: about it.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: It's already dead. Relax.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very low maintenance. Very low maintenance babies.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, extremely.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: And when it cries, you can shake it all you
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: want because it's not going to make a difference.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: It's like that Family Guy clip. I don't know what
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: the setup was. There's a little flashback and it's like,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: I thought if I shook him enough, he'd stop crying.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: And Lois is crying and he goes, I was kind
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: of right.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: God, I do not remember that.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: It's demented, man. It's so bad. Did anyone see, and
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: I'm speaking probably more to Brendan than I am to Maddie,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: the Darren Aronofsky movie Mother with Jennifer Lawrence and Javier Bardem?
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, never saw it.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: It's a weird.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know if she eats it, maybe, or something.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: No, she doesn't eat it, but it is this weird...
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: I don't even know whether it would be deemed... I
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: guess I didn't know until afterwards, but I think if
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: I would have known, it would have helped me watch it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: But it is this very allegorical movie but shit's going
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: weird and stuff. Oh, no.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. Well, something weird happens.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Wasn't it because she was Aronofsky at the time or something?
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: No, no, no. She rooted the... No, no, no. I'm
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: thinking that. It's Kristen Stewart. No, Lawrence was... No, she wasn't...
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Nothing going on with Aronofsky, I don't think. Anyway, all right.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: It just reminded... If you've seen Mother, there is a
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: scene that that scene in SGU reminded me of.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: So, anyway.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Moving on. May or may not... may or may not
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: make the cut in the end. That little reference that
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: went nowhere. Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely not what happens when
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: you have a, especially your first, and people just show
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: up going, hey, like, nah, not a good time. You're like,
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: we'll be the judge of that. I don't think so.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: We'll be quiet.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: We'll be calm down. Can you turn that radio down, guys?
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Hey, Mitchell, Mitchell, Mitchell.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Just quietly go f * * * yourself. Jennifer Lawrence
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: and Darren Aronofsky worked together on the 2017 psychological horror
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: film Mother and dated for roughly one year before splitting
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: up in late 2017. Wow.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: According to who?
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Google. Did you watch it? Did she tell you?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I just remember an interview with Jennifer Lawrence once
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: and she was saying, like, I was hooking up with him.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Of course I said yes to the movie. Like, she
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: knew she was, you know, she was doing a not
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: great film.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, or it was, I guess it still exists,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: but it was one of those weird ones where I'm like,
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know what I just watched. And then afterwards
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: went and listened to a spoiler heavy podcast about it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: And when they sort of explained it in a way
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: that my tiny pea brain wasn't able to comprehend it
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: while watching it. I'm like, oh, yeah, I guess that's
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: what it was. I don't know if it makes it
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: any better, but I kind of want to go back
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: and eventually want to go back and re-watch it through
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: that lens that I'm not just watching a black and
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: white narrative. It is from the moment the first frame starts,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: you're watching an allegory.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: He's 57.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, she's our age. She's like, I think she's
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: my age. Google that for me.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: How old is she?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: She's 36, mate.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: You wish.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: Bullshit.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah. All right.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: He was born in 1969. She was born in 1990.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: So he's old enough to be her father. Like he
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: could have fathered her.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Hot. What?
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: At 21.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: You do love pregnant women. So that, actually, I'm not
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: sure how that tracks.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, on that, no, no, it was a joke.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: We did, you know, we did have a laugh about
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: that in the last pod. But as you said, as
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: we record, only a couple of days ago, they announced
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: that they're doing Days of Thunder 2. You know, Tom Cruise,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: the racing film that I've actually still never seen. Oh,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: me neither. That starred him and I guess, what, before
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: they were married, but while they were still, were they
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: together at the time?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, Nicole Kidman.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Him and Nicole Kidman, right?
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Isn't that a BMX movie? I want to say that
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: was 1990. No, no, no. She did a BMX thing,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: I think, prior to that, but this was NASCAR. Oh, okay.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: But they're doing a sequel. Anne Hathaway is the female
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: lead in this. And I think she's going to be
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: like a team owner and an engineer or something, you know.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Whether or not she turns into a love interest, kind
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: of hope not because, you know.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Tom Cruise is... You know, the Mitch 1990 was Days
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: of Thunder.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: God damn it, I'm good.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: You're welcome, Holly.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. Your little fiddle fingers on Google have
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: been going crazy. But, you know, Randy Quaid, who the
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: weird cousin from the vacation films, he's the.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: The lesser of the two Quaids.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and the loony from Independence Day. And he
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: was obviously in Days of Thunder, and he came out
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: and blasted it and said, what a horrible choice. Anne
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Hathaway is not– she doesn't have any sex appeal. And
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'll stop you there. Are you joking? I know.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: And then said– but this is like a tweet. He
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: was writing it to Tom Cruise. He said, she doesn't
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: have any sex appeal because– it wasn't like and. It
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: was because– and if you haven't noticed, she's pregnant. So
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: it's like she doesn't have sex appeal– And because she's pregnant,
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: I was like, well, I mean, I.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: He doesn't understand causality, does he?
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: I will take pause to that, my friend.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: There's an entire tab on Pornhub for that.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: What are you talking about? about? But also, there's an
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: audience there.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: How do you think she got pregnant?
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Someone found her sexually attractive.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Like, Jesus.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, surely. I mean, you can say that you don't
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: find a pregnant woman. That'd be one thing. But it's
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: sort of like, oh, Anne Hathaway. It's like, come on, mate.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Come on, mate.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Anne Hathaway?
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Anne Hathaway?
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Can I say, though, just on that, Nicole Kidman. Now,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I've never really rated her as a great actress.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: No.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Like, I've always found her, she's just kind of fine. Like,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: she just kind of, you know, like, don't get me wrong,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I fucking love Moulin Rouge. That's probably one of my
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: top 20 most watched films ever. Like, I watched, I
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: broke the VHS watching, like, her and Ewan McGregor.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: But I've never really read.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Singing Come What May in the shower, mate.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: No, come what may, in a giant elephant at the
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Moulin Rouge, mate.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Gorgeous.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: But I've always just been like.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means, but it's hilarious.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: There's literally a giant elephant in the front courtyard of
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the Moulin Rouge, and that's her little courtesan room where
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: she has sex with all her gentlemen.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Callers, because she's a courtesan. It's a great movie, great movie.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, I've always just been like, I don't understand
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: what the fascination is with Nicole Kidman. I don't think
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: she's that good. I've enjoyed a lot of her films,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: but I'm just like, I don't know. Well, the last
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks I've been watching that new, well, it's
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: not new, but that Lioness with Zoe Saldana. Nicole Kidman
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: is fucking phenomenal in that.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: She is so fucking good.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: There's that other one, Big Little Lies, with Reese Witherspoon,
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Shailene Woodley, and Zoe Kravitz.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: I've heard mixed stuff about that one.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: I really like this. There's only two seasons, and there
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: was season two, her mother-in-law is played by Meryl Streep,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: and they're in a court drama, and it's Meryl Streep
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: acting against Nicole Kidman, and I'm like, that's the greatest
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: acting I've seen all year. It was just fucking outstanding.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: And yeah, Nicole's like that. I don't really... I didn't
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: care for her. I didn't care for her. But occasionally
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: she'll do something and I'm like, God damn it. Yeah,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: you are pretty good, aren't you? And then it kind
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: of fades and I can't give a shit. So, you know,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: when I go see Practical Magic 2, it's only going
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: to be for Sandra Bullock, if you know what I'm saying.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I made the mistake of getting High as a Kite
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: last weekend and re-watching Practical Magic 1.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I've never seen it.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: It didn't hold up the way I wanted it to.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I went to the movie. Oh, was that 97? 8, 98, yeah.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: We were in great shape.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: No, I understood the Sarah. I'm like, have you seen it?
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: She goes, of course. I'm like, oh, okay. I never have.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: I'm like, can we please watch it so that, you know,
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: when the second one comes out, I don't feel like
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: I'm behind the story.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're actually making one.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: It comes out next Thursday. It's already made.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll be doing the.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Why? Elle.
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, good question.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Elle has been on the podcast.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: She actually worked the red carpet in LA just the
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: other day.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe 2007, not now. I know, 28 years later. 20
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: years too late, guys.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and at the end of the film, Sandra Bullock's character.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Had a couple of.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: So you're going to ruin it for years to see
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: in the movie.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Had a couple of 10-year-old girls. Like, they're a plot.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: In the film.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: No, all right, okay, hold on.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Hold on a second.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Hold on.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to put the Sandra Bullock practical magic
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: chat to the side. Now, going back to what I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: said about TJ in the last episode, I said, jokingly,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: that she loses the baby.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: And you said.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: You weren't joking.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: You said, spoiler alert.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Now, here's the thing.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: So you haven't seen the show?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: That is.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I don't remember the show, mate. That's the entire point.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Just because you don't remember doesn't mean people don't remember
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: when you spoil things for them.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: No, what they remember is when you spoil things. Because
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. The amount of times I have said
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: something completely innocuous and you said spoiler, which leads it.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: To be a spoiler.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Because that's what the audience is thinking.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: No. No, I don't give a.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: I might not be. I don't care about you, mate.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: It's about the audience, not about you. Come on.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: You are my fun man.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: If I said to Mitch right now.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Don't spoil it for him.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: No, if I said to Mitch right now, right, hey,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you know how we said it really, really wild?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Well, guess what? Um.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Carlisle writes himself out of the show halfway through the
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: season by him getting permanently stuck in the stones so
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: someone else takes over his body full time and that's
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: how they write around it. Now, if you, Brendan, say, oh,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: that would have been awesome, or you, Brendan, say, oh, spoiler,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: determines whether it is a spoiler or not. Because Mitchell
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't know until if or when it happens.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Well, stop spoiling it and I won't say it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: But that's the point.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: It's your reaction is the spoiler, not me saying anything.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Don't try to blame me, mate. Hey, I live with
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: a woman.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I see what's going on here.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: There's that great clip right from, remember, pre-Infinity War? And
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: they're talking to Mark Ruffalo, who is a renowned spoiler
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: of all details. And they said something about, I don't
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: even know how they let him into it. And he goes, oh,
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: something about someone dying. And he goes, oh. Wait till
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: you see this one. Everyone dies. And then Don Cheadle
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: whacks him and goes, dude, dude. And he goes, what?
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: And he goes, dude, come on, man. And I'm like,
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: without that, if you would have just said, as one
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: of the lead heroes with plot armour, go, oh, this
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: next movie, everyone dies, and no one says anything off
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: the back of that, you're not believing him. That sounds ridiculous. Hello, Madonna.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: It's like Candyman. We've said her name too many times
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and she appears.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: It's Bloody Mary. Don't turn the lights off. You'll scare me.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. That's what I was talking about. So this
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: isn't a spoiler. All I'm saying is in the original
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Practical Magic, part of the plot is that Sandra Bullock
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: has two young girls who, at the end of the film,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: are roughly about 10 years of age. So that was
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: in 1998. We're now in 2026. They didn't hire those
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: original actresses back, even though one of them is a
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: working actress.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Maybe they're shit.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: You ever think of that?
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: They hired Arya Stark.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: And Joey King. Yeah.
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: See, I Googled it. Oh, they're in there. And then
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: I looked at the performers in number one. I'm like, oh,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: they're playing the same characters.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Wasn't like Samara Weaving or someone like that was like
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the original little girl.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: In the first one? No, no, it was Evan Rachel Wood.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: That's the one, Evan Rachel Wood I was thinking of.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Who's still the still working actress. I saw an article
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: the other day and it was like, how.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Do you know these people's names, guys? I just don't
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: know how you have the time.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: But we let women speak. And watch their films and
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: support their careers.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: It's not that.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: I'm just autistic.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Do we know if Stockard Channing and Diane Wiest are
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: back for Practical Magic 2?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Great story.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I didn't hear the first person, but I don't know
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: about Diane Wiest.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: I thought it was Stockard Channing.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: I didn't hear who you said. I didn't hear who
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: you said.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Diane Wiest isn't dead.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about a different Diane.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: A different old white woman, eh? Oh, so after a
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: certain age, they're all the same to you, are they, Mitchell?
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Unless they're Helen Mirren, mate. You know that very well.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, doesn't she have a title?
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: Dame?
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Dame Helen Mirren?
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: She's a dame.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Hey, Matty, if you're such a feminist, why don't you
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: marry one?
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: Marry a feminist?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Shut up, then.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: No one's doing that. No, thanks. That'd be crazy.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I like my peace and quiet.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, you tell me, Brendan. How old's Bella now?
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: You're not meant to ask a woman's age. Jesus Christ, mate.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: She's a girl, but I'm just saying you're going to
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: have two feminists in the house.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Fifteen.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Well, there you go. You're getting pretty close to having
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: two feminists in the house with So if I'm already
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: a feminist, why would I want another one in the house?
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: That's like having two alphas, you know? That's like having two.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Mexican fighting fish? What are they? Samurai fighting fish? Whatever
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: they're called. You've got to have an alpha and a beta.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: That's racist.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Instead, you're talking to the woman in your house, going, oh, God,
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: can you say something chauvinistic and be disrespectful to me, please,
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: for fuck's sake? Like, yeah, put me down.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go watch a.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: A Taylor Sheridan series.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Let's go try and find any script that will pass
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: the rectal test. Good luck.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: It is so terribly written for the male gaze.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Like, it is... Oh, my God.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Like, every man is the most toxic, masculine meathead you've
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: ever met, and every woman is either gay or bisexual. Like,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: it is just purely for the male gaze, this show. It's...
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: It's trash, but it's compelling. I don't know how else
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: to describe it. Like, I enjoy the performances, but the
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: writing and the direction.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: Is f * * * ing terrible. Like, it just.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: And Zoe Saldana, all she does, she just yells at people.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, is that the Lioness one?
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an awful, awful show. I tried it. It's
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: f * * * ing shit. The dialogue is trash.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah it just but like i said nicole nicole
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: kidman every time she like just like just just just
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: enters the room like she just stalks.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: It like a lioness like and she's even got her like.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Her mane and shit and i know that you know
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: lionesses don't have manes but the way that she just
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: like enters the room is incredible and then she's just
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: every everything that um nicole kimmon does in that is
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: absolutely amazing uh and i do love um old tits
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: mcgee the traveler from uh from um.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Stargate Atlantis was the name.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: You said that on the other day, and I actually
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: didn't realise she was in that show, not that I've
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: watched it. She wrote it.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: She created it. Her and her husband created it and
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: then pitched it to Taylor Sheridan, and he went, all right,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: let's make it.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Oh, right. Okay, there you go, because I didn't know that.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: So she's like an executive producer on it.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: I just thought it was his show. Yeah, okay. Yeah.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, her and her husband are executive producers on it.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Not our Tits McGee.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Not Universe Tits McGee. Atlantis Tits McGee.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: You know the one, what was the name?
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Laren?
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Laris?
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: The leather plaid?
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, see, I thought you meant Brad Wright for a sec.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Brad Wright's Travellers.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: No, that's Mantis McGee.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Of course there was this.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Just another day in outer space.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Just another day in outer space.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: He was really proud of that line in the audio
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: commentary because apparently it made all the promos.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Oh, really?
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it would.
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Can we get just the soundbite for future recording sessions
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: in person, obviously, on the hotkeys, Brennan? Just that line
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: from Paul McBeckett.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Just every time we don't like something that Eli says.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: Shut the fuck up. Wake up, David.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: That's what I was planning to do.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: See, I reckon what we should do, we should find
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: every single Stargate alum that's on Cameo and buy a
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Cameo of every single one of them saying, shut up, David.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: That's a great.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Oi, oi.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: That's a great idea.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Actually, get them to do that.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Get every single one of them to do, Chloe, Chloe, Chloe.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Get in the gate, Stargate podcast.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. And then, oh, we have to get Julie
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: McNiven or whatever her name is. Who is Julie Benson?
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Julia Benson. Oh, yeah.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: We need her to be on Cameo to go, I'm
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: a boob.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, see?
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: And watch a video.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: That tab on Pornhub you were talking about earlier, that
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: whole subcategory? Yeah.
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: One of them.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm glad that that episode is over because hopefully.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: It gets better from here.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was not looking forward to this recording session
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: because I was just like, ugh.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I wasn't looking forward to watching the episode. I put
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: it on a few days ago and I saw TJ
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: wake up in heaven and I thought, you know what?
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: I've got other things to do. I didn't, but I
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: just didn't want to watch it.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I had to watch it twice.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah i don't know i mean but at least i got.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: You know drunk louis ferreira so that was something.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: That's something no i don't know i like i was
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: a bit harsh when i said like that you know
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: um the tj stuff was great and the other stuff
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: just felt like we have to wrap this up but
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: um as a first time watch it's it's completely for
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: me anyway it was completely fine so i imagine if
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: i get back to it as a rewatch going oh
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: yeah now we've just got to get through the obvious
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: this is going to happen just to sort of see
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: the TJ stuff. But it was because when they showed
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: the obelisk, right, and I found myself thinking, I remember
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: on the pod and I said, I'm so interested in that.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: I hope we never find a thing out about it
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: because it somewhat condenses the, you know, I want it
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: to be so big and so mysterious that that is
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: something fascinating that we have endless questions for and we
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: never have any of them answered. And then in the
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: previously one, they actually show it. And obviously they show God, oh,
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: we're going to stay here and we were meant to
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: be here, blah, blah, blah. But then when they reference, like, hey,
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: we're back here. With that, the aliens that built that, yeah,
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: we're here now. And it's like, oh.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: And they're not just a little ways away.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: It's almost a shame for me, yeah.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: They're not a little ways away.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: They're in a different galaxy.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she's like, what? We're
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: in a different galaxy. He's like, they're, like, really old
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: and that, though. Like, you don't think that they've got, like,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: intergalactic travel? Stop it. Like, that was it?
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Come on, man.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: But that's the explanation. I'm like, okay, yeah, fine. But
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: even she's like, I'm not leaving without my baby. He's like,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: this is like just a bit of courtesy information.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: I'm keeping my baby.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're going to send you back anyway because you
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: decided to leave here way back when you were pressured
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: into leaving the planet from the captain.
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: Of the expedition. These aliens are punishing her. And they
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: can force her to leave whenever they want. Couldn't they
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: tell what she would really want to do? You know
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: what I mean? I thought that was a bit harsh
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: on TJ. Surely they could feel that mother's love was
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: real and why she did what she did.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: It's like those movies where it's like, it's not your time.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: And then you just go back to earth.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh, man. All that stuff at the end was crazy.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: The idea of.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: Of her holding that baby. Like she woke up and
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: was like, I've lost the baby. What the hell's happened?
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: What's going on? And then she hears the baby crying.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh yeah, that's right. I had it like,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: you know, playing catch up in her own story. And
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: then for them to go anyway, don't worry. We're going
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: to look after it. Trust me. And I'm just looking
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: at how old this baby, like you said, that's, it's
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: all Elena Huffman's, um, performance, but Jesus Christ, just watching.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: A little bit of Mumford and Sons.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: Obviously a little bit. Yeah.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: They did a little bit of heavy lifting there.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: Like, They won't be our responsibility.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: If you thought Colonel Young was emotional at the end
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: of this episode, wait till next week's episode.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Another little bit of.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Trivia, too, and I guess we could have talked about
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: it in a few episodes' time. This was actually the
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: second episode filmed back from the hiatus between seasons. Episode
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: four was actually the first episode they filmed after Because
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: it is directed by one Robert Carlyle.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Stop it.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: So they kind of did make him, I guess, come
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: back early to do all his prep and all that
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff before going in to have to learn
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: his lines. So, yeah, so Robert Carlyle directs Episode 4. Oh, really?
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah. What else has he directed?
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: Or was it like he talked amongst yourselves? That might
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: have been part of his two-year deal. Yeah, it could
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: have been. Because eventually Carter... Sorry, Amanda Tapping directed Shanksie.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was season seven. That's what I mean.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Shanksie did it in what, season four? I know Star
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Trek did that as well. They had like a, what
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: do they call it, like the director's school. Like, you know,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Frakes and a few of the others all like directed,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: but they had to like, on episodes they weren't in
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: a lot, they would like shadow all the directors and stuff.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: And when they thought they were ready, they would let
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: them direct.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Well, it was the very first thing that he directed.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, you beat me, you son of a bitch.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: According to his IMDb, he only did the one episode,
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: but yeah, it was his first thing, 2010. The next
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: thing he directed was in 2015 on a movie called
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: Barney Thompson, which he was the lead actor in, alongside
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: Emma Thompson and Ray Winstone. So great cast there. And
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: then again in, as I go back, am I catching
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: up with my internet? A short this year called Three,
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: a short film that he was the director of.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: And it was his third thing he directed and it
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: was called Three.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: That can't happen. So, yeah, apparently they gave him, I
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: remember I saw a featurette about this and they gave
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: him basically the whole off-season to... To, you know, do
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: his notes and whatever.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did see in the audio, in the special features,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: they have some info about it. So when we get
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: to that episode, I'll be sure to grab some bits
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: and pieces for it.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nice. That'll be fun.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, let's go.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I want to go finish watching this bullshit episode of
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Star Trek.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Let's not take you away from that. I
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: can get back to some rugby league.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Are the Broncos losing tonight, or are they done?
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: Both could be true, but.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, so they're playing, so they're losing.
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: Hey, they're in front at the moment. Thank you very much.
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: I'm getting texts from Luke next door. All right, okay.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: They are up 14-10 early in the second half, and
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: it is their last game of the season. Billy Walters! Yes,
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: so get back to that.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: They'll win most attractive team, but they'll get the wooden
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: spoon for everything else, yeah?
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Check this out.
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: Kick and chase by Mullins.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Kick and chase again by Mullins.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: This will be a miracle. Oh, it is a miracle. Oh,
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: my goodness. You won't see anything like that again this year,
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: and maybe never. Oh, that'll do me. Sensational stuff. It
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: just doesn't get any better than that, does it?
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Mullins backed himself.
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: Mullins.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I'm mad he's gone. That's a shame.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: He's actually gone.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: He left.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: He was so... Next time... Oh, man. Next time he
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: complains about Star Trek, go, dude, do you want to
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: watch NRL replays? Do you want to watch NRL highlights?
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: And then he'll just stop complaining about Star Trek. Great point. Yeah.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Good times.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: Consider himself lucky. All right. Well, until episode two. He
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: can't run away when we're in his house.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: No, that's true.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: We'll hold him down. Playing Mullins.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Watch Mullins.
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, full fucking clockwork orange, just playing fucking Raiders highlights
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: from the mid-90s.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Look at how good Alfie was. Look at him. Oh,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Kevi was pretty good, actually. Oi.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: They called him the Ipswich Connection because there was actually
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: a couple more, right? Do you know there are five
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Walters brothers?
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Try and name them all.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: Which two are twins? I'll give you three guesses.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Get into geek.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Get into geek.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Stargate podcast. Get into it now before it's too late.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Are you doing a previously on thing, Brendan?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: Probably not for this one.
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: No need.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: Well, See if.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I'll see if I can grab next week. No, no,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: hold on.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: We'll do that again. We'll do that again.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: And Mitch, can you put this at the start of
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: the episode?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: We'll go.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Hey, Brendan, do you have a previously on for this episode?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hang on. This is what destiny... I mean, duh,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: I do. That shit...