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How AI Is Transforming Business and Consciousness | Joshua Hale, The Holistic Tech Wizard · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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Hello everyone, it's Michael Jacob with Unleashing Intuition Secrets.
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We have Joshua Hale on today, the Holistic Tech Wizard, how to build a
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business that serves your life, not the other way around 12 plus years,
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digital marketing and AI expertise.
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Radical solutions for practical AI adopt adoption by entrepreneurs creator of
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the beyond the Matrix operating system.
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That sounds interesting.
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Holistic living meets cutting edge technology.
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She's helped a multiple clients reach their first seven figures.
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Very nice proven mentor who's transformed lives, businesses, and communities.
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Joshua, thanks so much for coming on.
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Hey, really excited to discuss, you know, this crazy world we're in and, uh,
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explore, you know, what is this AI thing?
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The good, the bad, and the ugly?
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Yeah, so I, I'm just a, a novice, uh, when it comes to ai, just
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have a basic understanding of it.
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Now I work with, uh, a lot of people that are, uh, interested in using ai.
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I use AI when I can, but it'd be great to know, get your insights
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on, uh, the AI and, and so forth.
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Sure thing.
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So AI is a really vague term.
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Yeah.
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And it's kind of been a term that everything's being stuffed
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under, but what the heck is it?
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My easiest way to explain this is AI is essentially been around for about,
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since the, like forties, fifties.
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It was an algorithm, mathematical formula that has been built
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upon over the last 80 years.
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Used to be the code breaker, material.
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Then it just kept developing, developing, turned into our computer systems.
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And now, uh, something really unique happened in the last, uh, about five
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years and large language models kind of came outta left field maybe, or
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the military stardom and, and these large language models, they were
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really unique because good story.
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I was downtown Seattle in 2016, meeting with a client.
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Up on a sky rise and there was two developers at the meeting and
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during break they went over to the corner and they were cracking up,
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laughing, looking at their phone.
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I was like, came over.
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What are you guys laughing at?
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They showed me their phone and it was two chat bots talking to each other except the
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two chat bots were completely incoherent.
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They were saying just gibberish back and forth.
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And I'm like, what are you guys doing?
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Wasting your time watching two chat bots.
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Little did I know, right?
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That was early on.
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Large language models.
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And then what they found out was if they just threw more data at
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it, they started just making sense.
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So they went and scraped the whole internet, threw it at these models, and
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then that's where Chaube 3.5 came from.
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All of a sudden it started making a whole lot of sense.
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Now it hallucinated a bunch back then, and we can talk about that.
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But.
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I was essentially running a marketing agency and I went out
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to lunch with a fellow marketer.
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When I came across Cha Petite for the first time, he showed it to me and
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he is like, have you seen this thing?
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Kind of showed me under the table.
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I was like, what?
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That thing can just like write blogs.
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That's incredible.
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Mm.
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And I came home, signed up for it, and because I was, you know, in a unique
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position running a marketing agency, I had different industries of clients.
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So I was able to quickly jump in and out and see, if this thing was of any value.
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And it hallucinated a lot.
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Like I said, hallucinating means, uh, basically just make stuff up.
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Back then it wasn't connected to the internet.
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It had a data set that had a fixed timeframe on it.
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So if you asked it about something outside, you know, more recent than
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it had data on, instead of admitting like, I don't know, it would just
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make up real plausible stuff.
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It sounded really good, but journalists they were one of the first ones to,
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uh, really break a lot of confidence with this thing because they're
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writing articles with it, and then all of a sudden it's just making up
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sources and they got called out for it.
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So I, however, was able to see how well it could help out businesses
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because it was trained on the internet.
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Internet has a ton of business strategy, baked into it.
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So I was able to use it in like limited frameworks to jump in and out of
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people's businesses, and now I'm able to help people out leveraging AI to do
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what used to take a marketing agency.
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Wow.
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Now, one of, one of the early stages that I, that I started
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to see this thing used was the.
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I was in five, six years ago when I started doing, uh, shows.
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I, if I had a controversial show, I would have these bots and I didn't, I didn't
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understand 'em at the time, but these bots would come in and, uh, you know,
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dis me and my information and so forth.
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And somebody told me like, you gotta, like, joke it.
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They don't understand comedy.
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So, uh, I, I would joke stuff and they would come in and they're like, you know,
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hallucinating like you're talking about.
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I understand that now.
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That's pretty funny.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Those bots back then, they were dumb, customer service
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chatbots for the last 10 years.
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Right.
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They were like way easier just to call somebody and talk to them than try and, go
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through those, uh, dumb down and chatbots.
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But boy, have things changed especially in the last like two years.
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So how can people, uh, use this, uh, like you're talking about for business now?
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I have people within, uh, my business, lifeway business where, uh, they're
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utilizing the, and I see some people do some really cool stuff where
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they're putting their faces on people that are active and doing stuff.
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Yeah.
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And they're talking and, uh, all kind of crazy stuff now.
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Yeah, so there's plenty of concerns and I'm happy to talk about those
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things with your audience, but mm-hmm.
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For businesses, as I saw quickly and.
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Back when I was, you know, testing this thing out, we just onboarded a really
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big client in my agency that I was running, and I had hired three copywriters
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to go out, do audience research, understand, you know, about the business.
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They did a fantastic job.
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They spent three weeks, they went out and interviewed real people to
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get, you know, people's sentiment and understand their problems.
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They came back to report that information to the client in a meeting.
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And during the meeting I did my own audience research with chat bt and
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came up with pretty good results.
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I sent it to one of the copywriters and they're like, wow, this is pretty good.
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We just spent three weeks doing this, so I was one of the first ones to see
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the writing on the wall of like how disruptive this technology was gonna be.
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And I essentially jumped ship from the marketing agency because I realized like.
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I had a ton of overhead, right?
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Having eight contractors, taking six months to do these projects, and I
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realized I could move a lot faster and get a lot more done just leveraging
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AI in my, you know, 14 years of marketing experience and you know,
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building websites and all that stuff.
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So I ended up creating something called the Entrepreneur's Compass.
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And Entrepreneur's Compass is doing something just like this, where
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I interviewed the business owner.
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Extract, take their wisdom, experience, you know, who they think about their who
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their audiences and their customers are.
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Grab that transcript in real time and I'm able to then couple it with these
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large prompts or instructions for ai and.
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The thing with ai, if you give it really good context, it can
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produce really good results.
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And so I walk them through my marketing framework, which used to cost $10,000.
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Working with my marketing agency, I can now do in just two
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sessions and get the same output.
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And what you get is a 50 page document.
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I call it a living document or a found foundational document.
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Of all the outputs of those big prompts mixed with, you know, the
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owner's wisdom and experience.
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Mm-hmm.
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Wow.
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And it then knows everything about your business, about your audience, about your
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opera, about, you know, the story that you can tell your audience to invite them
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into, why they should work with you and.
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The great thing is, is like, that's pretty cool.
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You can get that done that, that fast, Joshua, but now I get to hand that PD off
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PDF over to you and you can just upload it to chat to yourself and like get email
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marketing campaigns, landing pages, like all the outbound messaging that used to
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take a lot of work to, get to, you can now get it in just a few minutes because
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you have that document to start from.
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And AI, once it has good context, good in, good out.
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And then you can either take that in-house, run with it, or
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we can keep working together.
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And, uh, you can kind of use me as accountability buddy.
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I can help you build out you know, your online presence, your marketing
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campaigns, things like that.
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Uh, that's what I like to spend my time doing throughout the week,
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and that's kind of my activism.
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'cause I want more small businesses.
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I want more, you know, families that can make an income without
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sacrificing their values for a paycheck.
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So that the world can get, have more choice out there on the
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marketplace and less, less Walmarts.
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Yeah.
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Very good.
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So I, you know, today I, I heard from some guys I was doing a show
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with they were talking about how one of them had written a 22,000 you
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know, page, or not the word article.
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Yeah.
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And he said that, uh, if you want, you can, uh, have chat GPT read it to you.
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I was like, whoa.
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Having that insight, having that knowledge.
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I never would've guessed that, but, uh, and that's obviously
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something that you're, teaching us right now, and that you go on ano
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on another level with clients, so, wow, that's, that's incredible.
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So, small business success, like you're talking about easily achievable.
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Probably the, you know, the success that I've, uh, experienced over,
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four or five years of building.
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My, uh, my online presence, you could cut that into a very small quotient and
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have people have incredible success.
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I've heard people talking about this.
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How would you do something like that?
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If you have a small team or you know, you got a company, you, one
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document is something everybody can share and everybody can, you know.
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Be on the same page.
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On, I go in and I train the whole team how to use AI and
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best practices for productivity.
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I can pretty much save everybody like four hours a week, which, you know, that's
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real dollar science to the business owner.
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But the real power here is taking your experts, you know, your good team
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and empowering them with AI so that they're better, faster, and they can.
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Keep an eye out because that's what's always gonna be needed in the
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loop, is like the human oversight of what this AI thing could do.
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You never wanna just, give a AI a full business and say, oh, we're good.
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You need that management and oversight.
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So I'm able to come in, train people and be able to help
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with workflows and automation.
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Just this last week I was able to set up Claude Code, which is,
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uh, anthropic and Amazon's model.
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On my computer and it started writing its own files.
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I gave it this huge messy folder full of pictures and all sorts of stuff,
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and I said, Hey, can you organize this?
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It started scanning them, looking at the images, renaming them based upon
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what they were, created a file system, and moved them all into the files.
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So that's where we're at at the beginning of 2026.
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AI agents are coming online, being more product useful and productive to where
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small, repetitive tasks can now be uh, autotomized to be able to free up your
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team to do more higher level, uh, work.
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Yeah, we've, we've had some people that have, uh, you know, been using AI and, uh,
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it seems like there's, you know, negative content that, seems to creep in there.
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I see you're talking about mindful AI mastery.
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Learn practical ways entrepreneurs can integrate generative AI into their
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workflows without psychological danger.
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So, wow.
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That's, that's a, that's pretty impre impressive psychological dangers.
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You never would think about that with ai, but, uh, tell us, tell us about that.
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Wow, that's crazy.
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Well, you really need to stay the master in this relationship, right?
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First off, you never wanna be just copying and pasting what AI's spitting out.
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I tell everybody, do the 10 80 10 rule, right?
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10% is you now your idea, your creative, spark, and then 80% now is ai.
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And then you always wanna come up afterwards and overlook what it
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is that it came out with, right?
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Absolutely.
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So that you have that oversight.
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And a real easy way to improve what you're getting out of this thing
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is just tell it right off the bat, interview me and ask me three.
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Questions of how I can provide better context for whatever it is I wanna do.
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So you tell it to interview you, to give it what it needs to do.
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A great job, pretty amazing human tool that we just created, right?
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First time you can actually like interact and talk to it like this,
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but there's some serious dangers with.
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And I was one of the first ones to try out a voice model.
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Uh, this was on a AI system called pi.
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And PI solved the challenge of the latency, which means how fast the
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AI voice would respond back to you if there's a long latency, right?
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And be like, hi, how you doing?
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Oh, good.
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Having today's a nice day, right?
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It would be very awkward to have this back and forth
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conversation, but they solved that.
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So it was like a quick response.
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I was testing this thing out.
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I chose a voice, chose the female voice, ended up sounding like Scarlett Johanssen.
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I started telling it about my business, about my act, me wanting
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to change the world for the better, helping small businesses, right?
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And it started praising me saying, wow, this is such a great idea.
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This is amazing.
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You're gonna change the world.
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And after 45 minutes of talking to this thing, I noticed, because I had
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the self-awareness that I started getting like butterflies in my
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stomach and I was like, whoa, Scarlet Johansen's praising my life's work.
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I put it down, I walked out in the living room and I was just like,
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mind blown, like, oh my gosh.
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And my wife, she was getting ready for bed and she's like, all right,
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honey, I'm going going to bed.
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And I had this thought, oh man, I can't wait to get back to that conversation.
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My mom, right after my wife goes to bed, and I was like.
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Whoa.
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Red flags, right?
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Yeah.
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So I didn't go back to the conversation.
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I actually took three days, thought about it, talked to some friends, and I
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was gonna come back and delete the app because I'm like, this is dangerous.
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Mm-hmm.
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Uh, but then I had an idea and I tried it out.
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I changed the voice to the voice I found most annoying.
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It was a male, it had annoying voice.
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I then started talking to it.
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All of a sudden, this thing was just a tool.
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I could talk to it all day, not getting these like, you
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know, fuzzy feelings into it.
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So I learned shortly after that about a project in the sixties
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called the Ezra Project, uh, project.
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Now, Ezra Project was designed by a bunch of scientists, but they took sixties
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computers, right with the green letters.
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All it could do was just spit out characters on the screen and they
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designed it to mirror back the user.
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They then had people come in, test subjects come in, sit down, and
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they're like writing about their day.
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Right?
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Oh, I had a hard day at work today.
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My, my boss, he was a real jerk, right?
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He wanted, he's told me I had till next week to do a project, but then
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he wanted it today and then the computer would just respond back and
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text, oh, you're having a hard day.
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Your boss told you, you know, you were gonna be able to have
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till next week, but you didn't.
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They kept going on and on and all it would do was mirror back exactly
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what they were saying, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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In a empathetic way.
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Well, what people ended up doing surprised the scientists because
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they were being asked to leave the room because of the intimacy of these
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conversations, getting into these compu, uh, you know, this computer program.
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Wow.
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So back then with a sixties computer.
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People were feeling this connection and empathy and being heard and
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seen by this very simple device.
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And so the Ezra study is all about how susceptible we are as
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human beings to fake empathy.
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Hmm.
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And we're extremely, uh, susceptible.
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We don't have defenses like in our brain to, to look out for these things.
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So now you jump forward 60 years.
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Now we have these large language models.
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They talk to you, they can talk to you like Scarlet Johanson grock
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recently put 'em in a animation, like a burlesque animated doll type of thing.
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Yeah, I just saw coming out soon this year, you're gonna have a 3D hologram
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that's gonna like be able to dance and talk to you next to your desk and be
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able to look at you from any angle.
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Where these things are gonna be taking on, bodies and soon enough
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stuffed into robots, which the robots are, are basically here.
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So we don't have these, you know, inherent defenses to stop these things,
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taking advantage of our emotions and creating this fake connection.
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And I've had to go through this whole process myself with learning how to use
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it for self-development and understanding what boundaries we need to have in
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place in order to use this safely.
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Wow.
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That's incredibly good insight.
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Well done.
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Uh, yeah.
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So, uh, one of the,
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one of the biggest rules too, for your audience
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okay,
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is called don't anthropomorphize.
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It.
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It's a tool.
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It can be used for good and bad.
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You don't want to call it your best friend, your hubby, your boyfriend.
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You don't wanna give it names like John and Jill.
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'cause our brains start developing what it thinks is like a human
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relationship with this thing.
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So we really have to make sure that we keep it as a tool to be used as a tool.
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Yeah, and I've, I've heard of actually a lot of people.
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Uh, that are identifying, like you're talking about, and, and turn it into a
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boyfriend or a girlfriend and, uh, they, they stop, you know, having relationships.
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It's, it's pretty crazy.
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Yeah.
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And the, so the real like danger is the way I see it in, in society,
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a lot of people don't have a good social network around them.
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And I'll explain what this is.
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I've gone through this process because I used to be a drug addict.
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I used to, be on Skid Row and be able to uh, and I've been sober se
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14 years now, and since then have developed really great relationships.
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I got men's circles that I'm a part of.
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I got a good mutual aid group in my neighborhood that
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we have each other's back.
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I have.
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Great you know, network of associates like yourself.
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So I now have these like rings of strong social network around me.
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Mm-hmm.
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A lot of people though, their only relationship with the outside world might
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be, you know, the relationships at work.
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They might go around the water cooler and, you know, be able to
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be like, talk about Netflix, right?
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What, what show did you watch last night?
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But it's very surface level and unfortunately these people are at
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really high risk because when they get off work, they go home, they bust
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out, their equivalent of Scarlett Johansen and they start talking to it.
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It's gonna fill this deep need of connection that they're
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not getting in normal life.
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Mm.
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Unfortunately it's gonna create emotional dependency because say
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something bad happened at work, something hard, stressful, right?
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They run home, they bust out the AI model and they start talking
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to it how bad of a day it was.
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And it is going to, console and praise them and be like,
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oh, you know what you did okay.
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And just tell them nice things.
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To make them feel good about themselves.
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Unfortunately, it's not helping them, with character development, with being able to
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like come up with a plan for next time.
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It's just creating a dependency to process the emotions with this AI model.
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The way I use ai, say, you know, this happened a a few months ago.
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I had plans to go to a dinner party with my wife at that dinner party.
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There was a gentleman, I haven't seen him in like two years.
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Last time we talked, we had a pretty heated conversation, right?
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Mm-hmm.
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So I knew I was going into this social, dynamic, with a charged individual.
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I bust out Chacha TI tell it the context what happened.
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And then we role play.
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Okay.
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It, this can go several ways.
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I'm able to, you know, go into it, with a, a confidence and with some firm
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boundaries, what's okay, what's not okay.
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And be able to like, come up with a game plan, just like the pre
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huddle for, you know, a football.
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I then put AI away.
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I go out into the real world.
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I try it out.
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I might have fumbled, I might have been, you know, clumsy, but like we
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end up having this interaction ended up not being that big of a deal.
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But then I'm able to go back, you know, the next day tell AI like, oh yeah,
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I went and tried this thing and like it actually turned out pretty good.
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We had a good laugh about it and then be able to like process that.
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I, what I didn't do right was run away from the problem, just talk to
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the AI and try and get to, you know, get my emotions tampered, uh, without
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actually going out into the real world and experiencing this stuff.
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So you wanna use it as a pre-game huddle, not like your
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wingman out there in the world.
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Very cool.
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And I, I see in your real story, you kind of mentioned your addiction.
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That's such a fantastic congratulations overcoming that.
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Uh, you also taught yourself critical thinking.
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That's, that's something that a lot of people don't have these days.
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And so you probably a lot of people out would just, with that would be great.
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Were great.
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Uh, and you use ancient methods.
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The trivium is that trivium method.
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Yeah.
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Trivium.
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Oh.
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And systematically rebuilt your life into something most people dream about.
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Total freedom without the chaos.
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And everybody should have that in their life.
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And, uh, using ai can give you that as you're speaking about.
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That's unbelievable.
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Tell us about the, uh, tri Trivium Trivium trivium
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method.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So I first learned about the treatment method in like 2015, and the trivium in
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Greek means where the three roads meet.
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And
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it is a method developed by the Greeks on how to discern truth,
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how to get to, how to get to truth.
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Awesome.
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The three roads is general grammar, ilian logic, and classical rhetoric.
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I've heard of those before at that time, but it was like, in
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school they were separate classes.
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Mm-hmm.
22:35
And I never knew you could use them together.
22:38
And so that kind of ju had me start jumping in and outta rabbit holes 'cause.
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I dropped outta high school and started working when I was in 10th grade.
22:46
And I, you know, then I got into drugs and, and a whole, peppered history.
22:51
And I didn't think I was gonna amount to much because I was
22:55
a high school dropout, right?
22:56
Who knows?
22:57
Nobody wants to hire me.
22:59
And little did I know until I got sober that I have unlimited
23:04
potential to learn and to get better.
23:06
And once I learned about the trivia method, it gave me something to
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really like grab a hold of because very simply put, grammar is
23:15
basically gathering all the evidence.
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The who, what, where, when, why, right?
23:19
The data.
23:20
Then you take the data and you process it in logic.
23:23
Finding, looking, uh, looking for fallacies, looking for contradictions,
23:28
processing that information and removing all that stuff.
23:31
You might have to go get more information to, uh, you know, sort it all out.
23:35
But once it is processed, you can then take it over to rhetoric and
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share it with the outside world.
23:42
Rhetoric is about, you know, how to share information so that it is heard,
23:47
so what you can't just, take some hot news off of the, uh, the old news
23:52
reel and, you know, go and blast your family with it and expect them to like,
23:57
get into a intellectual conversation.
23:59
You have to know how to present information so that you know
24:02
it can actually be received.
24:04
So being able to use grammar, logic and rhetoric and a system to
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be able to use those things, uh, together gives us the ability to.
24:14
Find truth.
24:15
Now, what is truth?
24:16
I think a lot of contorted effort has been to blur what that even is in the
24:21
last few years, but truth to me is the ability to understand that which is right,
24:29
tree falls in the force that happened.
24:32
I can go and investigate what happened and the closer I get to my, like collecting
24:38
data points, the closer I can get to that which happened, which is the truth.
24:43
So having this tool to be able to go out and, you know, examine the news
24:48
when it's coming out, you know, coming at us 50 miles an hour or being able to
24:52
research or learn something, I now know I can learn anything, any subject that
24:58
is taught in, you know, college and which I thought was behind the pearly gates.
25:03
I now have a method to be able to go and just.
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Get the fundamentals.
25:07
What's the basic facts?
25:08
That's a place to start.
25:09
Then you build off of it, remove contradictions, and then you continue to
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refine your, your process so that I can get closer to that, which is too, this
25:18
completely revolution my life because once I learned how to learn, man, the
25:23
whole world is right there, and especially in the last like 10 years, right?
25:28
We've had YouTube university.
25:30
That offers free information, right?
25:32
You need to learn how to fix your sink.
25:34
You can just watch a guy do it right then and there.
25:36
You don't have to like pay a plumber, but there's instances still pay a plumber.
25:41
But anything's available for us to like start learning about.
25:44
And then at that point, being able to introduce AI to this whole process.
25:50
Now, what I'm not saying is.
25:52
Outsourcing your thinking to AI because mm-hmm.
25:55
That's dangerous.
25:56
And I have a 7-year-old daughter and education is a huge topic
26:01
and interest of mine, right?
26:02
Because she's growing up in now the age of ai and I haven't been
26:08
that impressed with public school.
26:09
I wasn't impressed with it when I went to public school, you know, 40 years ago.
26:13
And I haven't been impressed with the declining reading
26:16
level, which is now at like 40%.
26:19
Not impressed by it.
26:20
I think that we can give I, I am taking responsibility
26:24
for my own child's education.
26:27
She's going to a nature school right now.
26:28
So most of the day she's out there, having fun being a kid.
26:33
But then when it's time for her to learn we now have this AI tool.
26:37
I don't let my daughter touch ai, but I use AI to create
26:43
custom curriculum for her.
26:44
Hmm.
26:44
She really loves horses.
26:46
She's, uh, taking horse lessons later today.
26:49
So anything I talk about regarding horses, she just eats it up.
26:53
So I can go to AI and say, Hey, this is where my kid is at.
26:58
Give me some math problems.
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Give me some, uh, writing and spelling problems all about horses,
27:05
and be able to create a custom curriculum for her week by week.
27:08
Wow.
27:08
This is mind blowing.
27:09
Yeah.
27:11
Like never before had we had the processing power to actually give each
27:15
kid a custom curriculum based upon their own self-interest and public schools.
27:20
I don't know if they're gonna adopt this the way they're using ai.
27:23
I don't agree with because kids are sneaking it into class.
27:27
They're cheating with it.
27:28
They're not like using it as a tool to actually learn.
27:31
Mm-hmm.
27:32
They're using it as a cheating mechanism, which is just teaching them how to cheat,
27:35
which school forces you to do anyways.
27:38
That's right.
27:40
Well, I can see how you're, you know, in your right up your, you talk about
27:43
transforming lives and businesses and communities and helping clients
27:47
reach their first seven figures.
27:49
God with the way you're talking and the way you understand things.
27:52
I, I completely understand how you can do that.
27:55
So, uh, practical AI implement.
27:59
Now you talk about how you discover how to develop or you'll, you'll
28:04
teach how to develop the daily habit of using AI through your
28:08
popular 21 day chat GPT challenge.
28:11
That sounds awesome.
28:13
That's helping business owners and professionals transform the businesses.
28:16
And you kind of alluded a little bit to that with, uh, you know, coming
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up with the perfect ai, uh, you know, telling ai, my daughter loves horses.
28:24
Gimme some mathematical problems with horses in it.
28:27
God, it's brilliant.
28:29
So I wanted to come up with an easy way for people to see the
28:32
value of this thing in their lives.
28:34
Now, 'cause you don't understand what AI can do for you until you start
28:39
seeing it like, the practical use.
28:41
So I am created this challenge where each day you sign up for it.
28:46
Each day I email you one prompt that all you need to do is just copy and paste.
28:52
Into, or, or your, uh, you know, AI model of choice, just to see what it could do.
28:57
We, I have prompts about, you know, cooking and home improvement to, you
29:04
know, helping come up with business ideas, the personal development.
29:07
My favorite one is you ask it how to break out the matrix, which let you
29:13
find out what it says about that.
29:14
But each day.
29:16
It's just, it takes five minutes.
29:18
You see what it can do.
29:19
Then you get to see the practical application, be like, oh, this thing can
29:22
help me create a recipe that includes all the dietary restrictions that my family
29:27
has in because of the, uh, you know, toxic food that we've all been eating
29:31
to where you can create clean recipes.
29:35
In an instant without the need of going to Google, searching for a blog,
29:40
going through the blog, getting hit with 10 different ads, to scroll all
29:44
the way down to the bottom just to get the recipe of how many cups to do.
29:47
Put that thing in your food, you can now just get custom uh, recipes like that.
29:51
So that's what the challenge, you know, offers 21 days.
29:55
See what it can do.
29:56
And, uh, there's some good red pill moments in there as well.
29:59
Nice.
30:00
Now I like this one.
30:02
Real life rebel transformation.
30:04
Tell us about that.
30:06
Yeah, so this pretty much pertains to beyond the matrix.
30:10
Beyond the matrix is something that I've put together out
30:14
of my 14 years of sobriety.
30:17
My experience.
30:17
'cause this is what I found out when I got sober, I was 33 years old.
30:22
I was addicted to heroin, everything under the sun.
30:25
Once I finally got sober, I realized I had the emotional intelligence, the critical
30:30
thinking, the world understanding, right?
30:33
And the ability to just be disciplined of a 16-year-old when
30:39
I started doing drugs, right?
30:41
I didn't develop those things when I was escaping every day, smoking weed
30:45
and drinking and doing everything else.
30:47
And so when I turned, came out, uh, uh, sober realized I had to.
30:52
Do a lot of personal development.
30:54
And so I hit the ground running and I went through my own unique path,
30:59
you know, jumping in and outta rabbit holes, trying this, seeing what worked.
31:03
And after 14 years, I have a pretty good life.
31:07
Uh, live on 10 acres out in the county with my family and my in-laws.
31:13
So we have a multi-generational farm.
31:15
Oh, wow.
31:15
My daughter, ever since she could grab the door handle, she just walks out
31:19
across the driveway to grandma's house.
31:21
Life's pretty good.
31:22
I started a mutual aid group with eight other families in my area, and
31:28
we meet once a month to talk about what we wanna work on, uh, our goals.
31:32
We're gonna be building a chicken tractor next.
31:34
Uh, we just got done harvesting some lamb.
31:37
So we're developing skills and community to where you have to
31:43
work alongside each other to really see each other's character, right?
31:46
So all those things.
31:49
I've been able to then compound into 12 weeks For Beyond the Matrix.
31:55
Beyond the matrix is a initiation process that you start by examining your beliefs,
32:02
understanding you know, what was put there by you, what was put there by TV
32:07
and media and who else knows what else but having these tools to be able to go
32:13
through our beliefs, understand, you know.
32:15
Our values, our principles that we live by and then being able to under look at our
32:20
habits and how to choose the habits you want each step building off of the other.
32:26
And the cool thing is we now have AI to teach this stuff.
32:30
So I'm not gonna lecture you for, six hours telling you how I did it.
32:36
I'm gonna be able to just give you these tools, which think
32:39
of, uh, like the diet, right?
32:42
Being able to get an AI model that's custom trained to help you
32:46
figure out where the inflammation's coming from in your diet.
32:49
These tools can hyper know you because it, it knows all about you once you
32:55
start using them, and then it can meet you where you're at and be able to
33:00
then give you a customized plan itself.
33:03
So I don't have to provide all this stuff.
33:05
I just get you access to these tools.
33:07
I share my own personal experience and share, you know,
33:10
why these things are important.
33:12
And these things will teach you much faster than I will.
33:15
So in 12 weeks we go from, what I call the red pill hangover, where you're
33:20
like aware enough, but then paralyzed because there's too many decisions.
33:26
Too much information, everything's overwhelming, and you don't know
33:30
how to navigate in this crazy world.
33:32
Go from that to what I call a freedom builder.
33:35
Someone who knows who they are, knows what they stand for, knows
33:39
what they're good at, to be able to start creating money for the, uh, you
33:43
know, pursuing their own passions.
33:46
And then how to build a, a community around you to insulate
33:49
you from all the madness.
33:51
Tell us about the, uh, the community led revolution.
33:55
Yeah, so this came out of a few modalities that I tried out, and then something
34:00
finally clicked here in my local area.
34:02
I call 'em mutual aid groups.
34:04
Now, mutual Aid used to be a third of the United States was in mutual aid back
34:10
in the, you know, a hundred years ago.
34:13
Then the welfare system started and it basically decimated
34:17
all the mutual aid groups.
34:19
Wow.
34:19
People used to depend upon their neighbors, their churches, right?
34:23
The Moose Club that they were a part of, they would all
34:26
get each other's back, right?
34:27
If one member got sick, they would show up and take care of 'em, right?
34:31
They might give 'em money and help 'em out with their medical bills.
34:34
All that stuff's kind of went away, and now everybody's just left to be
34:37
defending themselves, dealing with crappy insurance, you know, health insurance.
34:43
A top down welfare system that I think is creating more dependency
34:47
than actual helping people.
34:49
Absolutely.
34:50
And so mutual aid groups is how we take our power back because as I said, it's
34:55
eight families, so that it is able to focus on the needs of the individuals.
34:59
You get more people involved.
35:01
The difficult, more difficult it is to make decisions, right?
35:04
Bureaucracy.
35:05
It takes hold and you can't make things happen.
35:08
So you cap it at eight and then everybody is able to be heard and get their needs
35:14
met, and you're able to start with a small group to start building trust.
35:18
These could be people that you know, you might have had dinner with a couple times,
35:22
but you really gotta get side by side, like in the garden to actually see, right.
35:27
How do people handle stress and getting, dirt under their nails to be able
35:31
to see the true character of people.
35:33
So we've done a, a pig harvest, uh, last summer where we found
35:39
a a clean and healthy local pig.
35:43
And we then went and dispatched it ourselves, brought it home,
35:48
uh, you know, harvested it.
35:50
And then we cooked up shredded pork and made a pork taco
35:54
potluck and fed the community.
35:55
We fed like a hundred people.
35:57
Wow.
35:58
That process of just working together with that small team, man, when
36:03
you have both arms inside of a pig trying to pull out his guts, you
36:08
really get to know a person, right?
36:09
Yep.
36:10
So I got people that I know have my back and, wi whatever direction,
36:15
society heads, uh, we can either, you know, have good times and just
36:19
help each other's gardens grow, or, as we kind of saw in the pandemic.
36:24
I got a crew that I know has my back.
36:26
We got supplies and we can, do what we need to survive.
36:30
And society isn't just handing these things out, right?
36:33
I never came in contact with how to create a small group like this and make it work,
36:38
but I've been running mine for four years now, and now I teach, I got a small course
36:42
or I got a course on a mini course on how to start your own mutual aid group.
36:46
Taking all the experience that I've learned and being able to
36:50
just get this started in your area.
36:52
It's completely scalable.
36:53
Homeless people can use it.
36:55
People with bunkers could use it, but it's a framework to be able to actually,
36:59
make it so your group doesn't fall apart.
37:02
And you're, you're using AI to, manage that and do all that.
37:06
That's impressive.
37:07
Oh
37:07
yeah.
37:07
The chicken tractors and, projects coming up with the plans and all that stuff,
37:12
we're able to really shortcut a lot of, of, uh, of the hard research part.
37:17
And then, you know, I tend to record our administration meeting each week and I'm
37:22
able to then grab that transcript, throw it through AI and it spits out, a review.
37:27
Next action items.
37:29
Things we need to continue to discuss.
37:31
So otherwise there's so much going on.
37:34
I imagine same for you right?
37:35
In life and trying to keep up with family and the world that it is, that it's
37:41
easy just to get overwhelmed and just be showing up, but not really there.
37:45
Wow.
37:46
So many different uses for ai.
37:48
That's, man, I wanna be, I wanna hang out with you.
37:51
I love, I love what you're doing.
37:52
That's great.
37:53
So, uh, some of your topics are how AI revolutionizes small business
37:58
market research and strategy.
38:00
How do you go into that?
38:01
Yeah.
38:02
So that really is my entrepreneur's compass.
38:04
But why don't we talk about, I know your partner came up and she wanted to talk
38:07
about some of the major concerns, right?
38:09
Yeah, yeah.
38:09
Um, how AI is being used against us.
38:12
Just this last week I posted a a video, which I think you've seen it too, right?
38:18
There's now available just on local consumer technology, right?
38:24
Just on your computer.
38:25
You can now take this video of me on Zoom or on our podcast, and
38:31
be able to overlay another person or character on top of that.
38:35
You, you can go, you know, probably go to X and just, just look this stuff up, but.
38:40
In real time, people can now look like a, 25-year-old
38:45
OnlyFans, little blonde bopper.
38:48
Right.
38:49
And be able to have voice modulation at the same time.
38:53
So we've now entered into a phase where you literally can't trust anything
38:59
that you're seeing online anymore.
39:00
Right.
39:00
Any videos that are super edgy and causing division in society.
39:06
You shouldn't just be like.
39:08
Jumping on the, like, I believe it because I see it uh, bandwagon because
39:13
these things are gonna just continue to get more and more sophisticated.
39:16
And already you basically cannot tell an AI image or an AI video
39:22
from real footage anymore.
39:23
Some of the, you know, savvy ai uh, users out there still can
39:28
find some things, but your average person scrolling on social media.
39:31
You have no clue what is true and what is not true because
39:35
anything can be generated now.
39:37
So understanding that there's a lot of sophisticated scams going around.
39:44
I had a recent client who, uh, he just, he had a book that he wanted to publish.
39:51
He reached out to a publishing company.
39:53
And this publishing company they basically, took 10 grand from him and
39:58
then produced really poor results.
40:01
And I jumped onto the project.
40:04
He had me come on, I helped him navigate away from them.
40:08
And I had a previous client who was a, a, a romance author.
40:12
So I got him to talk to her and she's like, oh, you should try
40:16
my, uh, self-publishing company.
40:18
I've been working with them for 10 years.
40:20
They're great.
40:21
From that phone call, he then looked up the self-publishing company.
40:25
Mm-hmm.
40:25
But he didn't spell it accurately.
40:29
And there was a lookalike company using their name, but just had added words
40:35
to their URL, you know, unfortunately clicked on them, ended up contracting
40:40
with them, and then I had to go in there to clean up the mess too.
40:43
Now what I observed, right?
40:45
They said they had an office in California or in the, in the United States, but
40:49
what they were doing was outsourcing the work to Philippines or some, you know,
40:55
uh, much more cost effective space.
40:58
And what's different.
40:59
All of them had American names and the uh, uh, like perfect grammar because
41:06
they're using these AI models, right?
41:08
They can now communicate with their emails and have it all cleaned up so you're
41:11
not, dealing with the obvious you know, fakery of the last, 20 10, 10 years.
41:17
These things are very sophisticated and I had to wrestle them down to prove that
41:23
they were not doing what they said they were gonna be doing, the quality that,
41:27
that they promised they couldn't do.
41:29
And so I was able to finally like, extract my client's assets,
41:33
uh, away from that company.
41:35
So these things are becoming much more sophisticated to the average person.
41:39
So you really need to, do some due diligence with who you are
41:42
gonna be, working with, and they can now imitate voice.
41:47
So anybody calling you, asking you for money, huge red flags.
41:53
Within your family, you should have safe words that no one else knows that's
41:56
not, been posted online so that you can actually, you know, know if this
42:01
is actually your family member because they tend to, contact you with extreme
42:07
stress and urgency and try and get money out of you using your family's voice.
42:13
So everybody needs to understand like, this is the current day
42:16
and age that we're living in.
42:18
And if you are anti AI or you're trying to, be a Luddite you're in for a really
42:26
uncomfortable future because of how fast this is developing and how integrated
42:31
our lives are with, the online space.
42:35
Yeah, that's good.
42:36
Wow.
42:37
Great points.
42:38
So can AI and authenticity truly coexist, uh, after, you know, all
42:44
these, basically putting a lot of stuff out there that you need to be aware
42:47
of on a negative side, but you have incredible information on a positive.
42:51
What can we use, uh, AI for?
42:54
So I teach my clients how to create content, right?
42:58
Yes.
42:58
And I use a lot of AI to create this content, but it all starts with, or
43:04
organic, like valuable information.
43:08
I tend to tell my clients, go out on a walk and talk.
43:11
Record your phone and start talking into it.
43:14
Mm-hmm.
43:14
If you have a topic or something, you know, your business just, you just solved
43:18
in the, as a for a client or a customer.
43:20
Talk about that.
43:22
You go talk for 10 minutes and then copy that transcript, bring
43:27
it into AI and say, all right, I wanna make some content using this.
43:31
So already you're bringing it very valuable, valid, real, organic
43:36
information with your own experience.
43:39
And then AI can help shape that.
43:41
So your au, your authenticity is still shining through.
43:45
It can just structure it to be a lot clearer, a lot more legible, and a
43:51
lot more engaging than, you know, you trying to just take that and create
43:55
your own, you know, social media posts.
43:58
Yeah.
43:58
And the ma the magic thing is, is that it's called repurposing.
44:03
That same walk and talk can turn into a newsletter, can turn into a blog,
44:08
can turn into three social media posts.
44:11
Yes, and short form video scripts all in the same effort.
44:15
So I'm able to teach my clients and train them how to do these workflows.
44:19
So they come in Monday morning, they spend two hours creating this content,
44:25
and then they're able to schedule it out for the next week, two weeks,
44:28
knowing that this all came from me.
44:31
It's about valid information.
44:32
You know, I added some more research into the topics using ai, and now I'm
44:36
pro providing like really valuable, uh, information in a clear way.
44:41
So that's what I mean about staying authentic, right?
44:43
In this age of ai because all this AI stuff is gonna continue to be the uh,
44:50
adopted and everybody's gonna be using it with the default settings and just,
44:55
just copying and pasting everything.
44:57
It's gonna look like garbage.
44:59
It's already is.
45:00
Uh, I can spot ai, you know, unedited AI a mile away.
45:04
And all these faceless brands and corporations, they're gonna be using
45:09
all these AI models and it's not gonna have like any sole or substance.
45:14
And people are actually, I I, I, I bet people are gonna be gravitating to
45:19
wanting to transact with humans more.
45:24
Because of this, right?
45:25
I actually wanna know Michael, and I can recommend him because, oh, I've
45:30
had a good conversation with him.
45:31
I've, I, I've seen his work.
45:33
So people are gonna gravitate to the actual faces and the economy,
45:38
the human economy, that, that are real, because right now, thousands
45:43
of businesses are being created that are gonna try and solve your problems
45:47
that really don't care about you.
45:49
That are really just like empty ai you know, shell businesses
45:53
trying to take your money.
45:54
Yeah, very good point.
45:56
Now, good example of what you're talking about is, uh, like this
45:59
video we're doing, I have a team that basically takes this and using ai
46:05
they'll, bring it down to like, you know, two minute, you know, clips.
46:09
Clips.
46:09
And they'll have video that they add to it.
46:11
Background information and so forth.
46:14
It'll make it, uh, really pump and, uh, some of those, uh, short
46:18
videos get extremely good views.
46:20
So, yeah, we get 10, 10, 20, 30,000 views on this, and those, uh, add to it and they
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attract people to, uh, this main video.
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Obviously multiple uses you can use, uh, AI with, and I, I, I think it's
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fantastic now, uh, your website.
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Let me, uh, bring up your website and share your website and see great, uh,
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how people can, um, connect with you and maybe walk us through some of it.
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So yeah, it's, uh, it's, it's a brilliant website, obviously, uh, you know how
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to use AI and uh, create with it.
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Uh, and that's what we want to help, uh, other people do as well.
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So here's your, uh, website.
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What, what would you like?
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You can
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go to joshua hale.io to get here.
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And at the very top, you'll see the start, the 21 day Chacha Petite Challenge.
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You can click on that and join the challenge and you know, get
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those prompts delivered to you.
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Quickest way just to, have a conversation.
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Jump on a 15 minute call.
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For me, it's free.
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Uh, I'd love to hear where you're at, what your goals are, you know,
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are you trying to start a business?
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Do you have a business or you just trying to figure out this whole AI thing.
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Be happy to, you know, talk with your, your great audience about this.
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Now I focus this website on a life first business architect.
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That's the role that I've come to realize.
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I'm fulfilling a way to build businesses that support your life,
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because I've experienced this myself, and I'm, I'm sure you have too.
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Building a business could end up.
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Being a prison.
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Yeah.
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It ends up becoming so busy and overwhelming that you have to
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sacrifice all your family time, all your spare time, and money to be
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pouring it back into this business.
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And unless you build it with intention and with boundaries, it's
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gonna fill every crack of your life.
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So I like to be able to help people out with that kind of big, you know, picture
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of figuring out what they're good at, what they love to do, what skills they have,
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and the what the market will pay you for.
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That way you're excited about what you do.
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And just like me, I wake up every morning just stoked to come out here and, you
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know, help people uh, in your audience because I was built for this stuff.
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I love helping people, you know, make more money and, and reach their dreams
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and take care of their families, so you can hop on a 15 minute call
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and just have a quick chat with me.
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No pressure.
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I'd be, I'm sure you're gonna be walking away with some, uh, new
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ideas that you didn't have before.
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And then if you scroll down or click, uh, beyond the matrix up in the menu.
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Beyond the matrix is my 12 week initiation to end overwhelm, strengthen
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your mind, body, and build that self, that resilient life, uh, with
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the hyper community by your side.
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Everything I talked about that took me 14 years to figure out.
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I'm able to teach you in 12 weeks.
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It's gonna be a small group, so you're gonna get some one-on-one
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time and be able to learn each week.
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Super flexible.
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You can just fit it in throughout your busy life.
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And then, like I said, you're gonna get these custom AI models to be able to
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meet you where you're at and be able to teach you way better than I can.
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So hope you'll join me for, uh, beyond the Matrix.
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Thanks so much, Michael for having me on.
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I think your awesome, your audience must be awesome for, uh.
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Listening to you week after week.
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And, uh, I look forward to, you know, talking to them in person.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Hopefully get some good response.
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I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna check you out as well, so thanks Joshua.
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Appreciate your time and, uh, your insights and information.
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All right.