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7-21: Benton and Jess, Luke Arkins and Hugh Millen · The Gregg Bell Show

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Speaker 1: The Mariners bats alive once again. They took down the
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Speaker 1: Reds eight nothing last night. Feather in the cap of
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Speaker 1: that victory a cal Rawleigh grand salami in the seventh inning.
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Speaker 1: They walked Dominic canzone to get to cal Rawley and
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Speaker 1: in the words of Michael Jordan, I took that personally.
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Speaker 1: George Kirby unreal. Six innings last night, three hits allowed,
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Speaker 1: one walk, six strikeouts, mcdabola, Cole will Cox, Michael Rucker.
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Speaker 1: They went deep into the bullpen to get them out there.
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Speaker 1: They combined to close out the games scoreless, and the
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Speaker 1: two teams, the Mariners and Reds back added to night
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Speaker 1: six forty. Luis Castillo on the mound, whose name continues
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Speaker 1: to swirl amis trade rumors. Could this be the last
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Speaker 1: time we see him on the mount at T Mobile?
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Speaker 1: Who knows the storm? Last night lots of tight one
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Speaker 1: one five, one o two. They continue back to back
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Speaker 1: with Minnesota tomorrow at noon Sounders looking to bounce back
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Speaker 1: from a demoralizing loss to Portland last Friday. They'll go
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Speaker 1: head ahead with Austin tomorrow at six thirty. Furious Felts.
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Speaker 2: Him genuine Jackson these.
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Speaker 3: Hey, a genuine yes, and I think that he has
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Speaker 1: Fifa Felts has been retired and we're not back to
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Speaker 1: Jackson's got pregame tomorrow at six over on the nine
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Speaker 1: fifty am dial. In the NBA, Rich Paul Lebron, James's
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Speaker 1: agent and longtime friends, said yesterday he doesn't know when
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Speaker 1: his client will decide what team he'll play for next season.
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Speaker 1: Ho hum, wake me up when this is all over,
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Speaker 1: he said, quote, We're not going to be rushed. End quote.
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Speaker 1: That was Rich Paul, who said that in the latest
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Speaker 1: podcast he does Max Kellerman, by the way, Live Golf
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Speaker 1: suffering a potential setback today when the PGA Tour, European
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Speaker 1: Tour and Asian Tour or Asian Tour announced a strategic
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Speaker 1: it in an alliance that takes an effect through twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty nine, the PGA Tour and European Tour, of course,
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Speaker 1: the Asian Tour to provide commercial and playing opportunities and
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Speaker 1: establish a path of the Asian Tour members to join
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Speaker 1: European Circus, which puts Live one step closer to going
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Speaker 1: the way of the usfl Mike Benton with Jessmon McIntyre
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Speaker 1: as well. Won't be long until Greg is back because
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Speaker 1: it just seems like the Seahawks and training camp is
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Speaker 1: going to hit us right in the face like that big,
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Speaker 1: massive title way that is coming this sat.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, and we will be out there starting.
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Speaker 1: Monday, everybody wall two wall coverage as you would expect,
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Speaker 1: and expect nothing less at Virginia Mason Athletics Center. It
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Speaker 1: still feels like yesterday we were all disassembling here from
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Speaker 1: the streets following the parade. But my goodness. July twenty first,
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Speaker 1: this weekend will open up Seahawks training camp. It is
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Speaker 1: t minus four days away. And then we jump right
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Speaker 1: into the deep end. With the words of Mike McDonald,
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Speaker 1: we did not care when it comes to wall two
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Speaker 1: wall coverage. So Gregan joined Time of Family. He's back soon,
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Speaker 1: but again Mike and with Jessmin after last night, the
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Speaker 1: Mariners who pounded the Reds eight nothing, And we're gonna
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Speaker 1: get Luke Arkins on with us here at ten twenty
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Speaker 1: your Mariner's newsletter of Feshonado ten forty five are also
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Speaker 1: going to get to the turning point of the ems?
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Speaker 1: Was this a turning point? After that eleven o'clock, Hugh
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Speaker 1: Millan are one and only Hugh Millan QB one will
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Speaker 1: be joining us, and we're gonna play a little game
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Speaker 1: of calm or concern with the Seahawks. And I bet
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Speaker 1: you're throwing your hands with thinking we just won a
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl about four months ago, Like what is their
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Speaker 1: two or five months ago? What is there to be
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Speaker 1: concerned about? Well, I get it. A lot is calm
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Speaker 1: and Seahawks waters here, but this is content for content
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Speaker 1: saying and I think worth the discussion because there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of underlying parts of this football team that are
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Speaker 1: going to make a difference because really so much and Jess,
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Speaker 1: I think you would agree had to go right for
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Speaker 1: them to win the Super Bowl last year.
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Speaker 3: It certainly did, But I don't think that's the only
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Speaker 3: reason that they did win the Super Bowl. There were
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Speaker 3: a lot of things that did go right and certain things,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry, the NFC West beat the ever
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Speaker 3: loving snot out of each other and we have seen
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Speaker 3: that kind of become a tradition for this division.
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Speaker 2: But that the injuries or whatever you want to say.
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Speaker 3: Zach Sharbonay being a polite man and picking up a
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Speaker 3: ball with his foot in the end zone kind of
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Speaker 3: accidentally scoring a touchdown that was a game changer for that,
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Speaker 3: I don't think it takes away with the talent that
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Speaker 3: from the talent that's on this team, Like the Patriots
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Speaker 3: were the ones that got lucky, and unfortunately with the
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Speaker 3: bow Nick's injury, so you know, during that game or
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Speaker 3: right before the AFC.
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Speaker 2: Championship, that was luck.
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Speaker 3: The Seahawks have a plan and we saw it very
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Speaker 3: well executed in that Super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: But do you feel that that this team has earned
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Speaker 1: enough respect At this point, as we're getting closer and
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Speaker 1: closer to the NFL training camp, do you even get.
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Speaker 3: Really level or from a local level national I think
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Speaker 3: they've earned a decent amount. I didn't see a lot
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Speaker 3: of disrespectful comments come out after the Super Bowl or
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Speaker 3: during the Super Bowl. I think it was a little
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Speaker 3: odd of away. Mike McDonald has a very specific plan.
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Speaker 3: They controlled that entire game. But I'm looking up at
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Speaker 3: fifteen nothing and I'm not comfortable.
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Speaker 1: You weren't comfortable with fifteen nothing?
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Speaker 4: Really?
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Speaker 1: Nope, because the first couple of field goals.
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Speaker 2: I mean they that's control. He doesn't need to see
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Speaker 2: the end zone.
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Speaker 3: He's a defensive base coach and he's going to control
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Speaker 3: the field.
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Speaker 2: And they just had it the whole time.
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Speaker 3: So I was comfortable basically once they got in the
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Speaker 3: end zone.
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Speaker 1: As soon as they put the first few points on
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Speaker 1: the board, I was thinking that they had to control
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Speaker 1: this thing. And they tacked on more. I was like,
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Speaker 1: it's over. It's really over. Because New England had no answer,
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Speaker 1: and this is a different Seahawks team as far as
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Speaker 1: an identity versus ten eleven years ago, where ten eleven
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Speaker 1: years ago it was loud, it was brash, it was
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Speaker 1: in your face, it was a SoundBite a minute. This
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Speaker 1: is more of I think, what's the best word I
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Speaker 1: can put this? The quiet approach.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly what it is.
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Speaker 1: You put teams to sleep, but they know how to
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Speaker 1: do it in a surgical like fashion.
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Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: And when it comes to the disrespect question that you
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Speaker 3: asked on and now a level like if you just
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Speaker 3: look at these rankings that people put out way too
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Speaker 3: early and way too soon, because NFL is twenty four
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Speaker 3: to seven, three sixty five these days, three sixty six on.
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Speaker 1: A leap year, they make it four hundred. If they could,
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Speaker 1: they would.
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Speaker 2: They might change our lunar calendar just to get more.
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Speaker 1: And but we're playing games on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, any
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Speaker 1: game or really any game any day ending and why.
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Speaker 2: We're getting there.
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Speaker 3: But what I would say is that, yes, I do
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Speaker 3: think they're being slightly disrespected as the defending Super Bowl champion.
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Speaker 2: And you see the Rams ranked ahead of them right now?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so four nine, four or five one to komodash
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Speaker 1: text line, But I want to hear your top backs
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Speaker 1: are open for business right now. Find the iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1: hit the red mic icon. Give us what she got
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Speaker 1: thirty seconds or less. It doesn't take much. But again,
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Speaker 1: is it more important that this team is feared and
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Speaker 1: respected and cast a shadow of an aura like they
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Speaker 1: had maybe ten eleven years ago, or are you okay
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Speaker 1: with leaning into the word the fly in the ointment
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Speaker 1: of the NFL's tapestry and just leaning into this hole.
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Speaker 1: We did not care thing until this era is all
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Speaker 1: done and we can just say what a run it was,
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Speaker 1: what fun it was as well? It was what to
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Speaker 1: remember here for the books. But give us right now
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Speaker 1: what your thoughts are via talkbacks. Do you want this
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Speaker 1: team to be more feared and respected or is it
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Speaker 1: better that they keep sneaking up from behind on other teams?
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Speaker 1: Because the NFC West again, it's gonna get bonkers. We
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Speaker 1: saw what the Rams did, the Niners getting Mike Evans
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Speaker 1: as well, they're gonna be hanging around. But to give
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Speaker 1: us what you got. But rounding all this out here,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to Luke Arkins at about ten twenty
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Speaker 1: because after last night it was so important I thought
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Speaker 1: just to kind of identify where the turning point maybe
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Speaker 1: was here for this baseball team. I remember last week
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Speaker 1: where Friday, first game out of the gate against the Giants,
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Speaker 1: dead in the water. Saturday, no runs on the board
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Speaker 1: until Cole Young absolutely had toed a hangar from Logan
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Speaker 1: Web and they had to get some help because Web
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Speaker 1: was melting down on the mound to get them there
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Speaker 1: in the first place. But was that a spark that
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Speaker 1: we could go back and look and say this is
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Speaker 1: where they began to really light the fuse. But then
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to some comments here after Luke Harkins
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Speaker 1: from cal Rawley that I'm sure you've heard already, but
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Speaker 1: there's a deeper meaning into this baseball team. Had they
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Speaker 1: gotten mad enough last night? Did they get mad enough?
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Speaker 1: And was enough to show that they had to get
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Speaker 1: mad enough for energy in the dugout to carry them
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Speaker 1: now into July, later into August, into September and end
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Speaker 1: of the postseason because leaders put this all on themselves.
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Speaker 1: And a great point I thought that Chuck pal made
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Speaker 1: earlier this morning. How can you ask another guy to
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Speaker 1: raise his game when you're having difficulty of raising yours?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that takes away from the leadership
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Speaker 3: role because you can't step into it like you had before.
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Speaker 3: And I think Cal is a very lead by example guy.
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Speaker 3: I don't think he's a very and this is just
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Speaker 3: from my own observations, but from what I have observed,
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Speaker 3: he is. I'm going to do it, and I'm going
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Speaker 3: to lead by example like he leads like that. There
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Speaker 3: are some other guys that will be more of the talkers,
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Speaker 3: more of the rab ras, and there's all different things
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Speaker 3: like that.
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Speaker 1: There's also intensity, and George Kirby is in his own
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Speaker 1: category of intensity.
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Speaker 3: Yes, there's also the intense guys where it's like the
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Speaker 3: fear strikes in you.
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Speaker 2: When you walk by them. Don't look at him in
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Speaker 2: the face.
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Speaker 3: But Gino Suarez is a perfect example of you know,
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Speaker 3: the vocal one, the good vibes guy, and Cal to
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Speaker 3: be able to do that, that just must be a
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Speaker 3: huge weight lifted off of him, just to you know,
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Speaker 3: show up in a big way now in a game
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Speaker 3: where they handily won and the bats came alive for everybody.
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Speaker 3: That's the kind of ball we want to see. And
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Speaker 3: I hope that there's less pressure on him now and
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Speaker 3: he can be the leader that we know he is.
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Speaker 3: But when you lead by example and the example isn't there.
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Speaker 3: I think that puts makes it more difficult.
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Speaker 1: It was because of that leader by example thing that
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Speaker 1: led him to meeting the moment, because this game was
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Speaker 1: very much in doubt, very much in the balance until
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Speaker 1: the seventh inning of last night's game. It took literally
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Speaker 1: Rad's manager Terry Francona, to disrespect your best hitter on
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Speaker 1: your baseball team, who had a historic run from last season,
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Speaker 1: to basically go and disrespect the first pitch that he
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Speaker 1: saw and disrespect the baseball nearly about four hundred and
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Speaker 1: twenty feet.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just one year ago. Say we're gonna walk to
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Speaker 2: get to Cal.
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Speaker 1: Can you and no, this is where the Mariners were at.
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Speaker 1: But Cal lost all respect he had Leftyon left he
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Speaker 1: can zone versus Ferguson, and Francona said, I'd rather walk
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Speaker 1: can zone to get to Cal Rawley, who's a switch hitter,
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Speaker 1: and then and then I'll turn around cal Rawley fun
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Speaker 1: I think we'll beat him. And then finally Cal said nope.
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Speaker 1: And you can tell from the post game his comments.
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Speaker 1: Will air these here in a little bit in case
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Speaker 1: you missed it, but there is something that ticked him
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Speaker 1: off inside when he was surprised that the Reds preferred
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Speaker 1: to walk can zone to get to him. Cal Rawly said,
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Speaker 1: not on my watch, And that fired the dugout right
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Speaker 1: back up. And here they are, all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: winners of three.
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Speaker 2: In a row.
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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that sometimes the anger can
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Speaker 3: be like a demon. It cannot fire you up. Sometimes
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Speaker 3: the anger is bad for people. If he had a
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Speaker 3: fire in him, we saw it come out in the
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Speaker 3: best way possibly.
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Speaker 1: All right, So how is this fire going to define
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Speaker 1: the Mariners? The gravity of this homestand and what's going
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Speaker 1: to happen here with this team coming up leading up
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Speaker 1: to trade deadline time? Cal Rawley, everybody else as well.
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Speaker 1: Luke carkins, you're Mariners newsletter of Fiheronado joins us next
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Speaker 1: right here, three kJ arafin.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 1: Last night seven runs, thirteen hits, no airs for the Mariners,
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Speaker 1: no runs, three hits, one air four the Cincinnati Reds,
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Speaker 1: and the Mariners now own a three game winning streak
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Speaker 1: after it appeared they were dead in the water after Friday,
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Speaker 1: losing seven to nothing to the lowly San Francisco Giants.
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Speaker 1: But here they are, all of a sudden, where pitching
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Speaker 1: is shoving, and now you're getting signs of life from
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Speaker 1: cal Rawley, plus also a hot bat here from a
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Speaker 1: guy we call Cole Young. The future is bright for him,
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Speaker 1: but how bright is this going to be. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: break this down right now, Mike, with Jessamine in for
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Speaker 1: Greg Bell, and the one and only Luke Arkans also
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Speaker 1: joining us without further Ado on the Beacon plumbing hotline.
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Speaker 1: Of course, he is your Mariners newsletter A fish Shonado.
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Speaker 1: Louke Kai, Hello, how are you? Where are you right now?
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Speaker 6: I am Hi, Mike. I am in uh North Bend.
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Speaker 1: All you're getting out to North Bend or a little further.
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Speaker 6: I well, I had a doctor's a planning this morning,
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Speaker 6: and the traffic through Bellevue is quite sporty, so I
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Speaker 6: decided to stop at North Bend so I wouldn't be
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Speaker 6: in the middle of nowhere.
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Speaker 1: I've been there before, and I had been, I want
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Speaker 1: to say, stuck on a phone somewhere at the very
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Speaker 1: top of the mountains, past snow Qualm. It is not fun.
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Speaker 1: It is not a treat. But I appreciate you doing
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Speaker 1: this year, joining us right now after what was last
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Speaker 1: night a very satisfying win Luke, I can say that
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Speaker 1: we've had something I think in that nature in a
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Speaker 1: long long time. But before I kind of get into
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Speaker 1: the gravity of this homestand I mean, the man who
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Speaker 1: met the moment that was cal Rawley, who was disrespected
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Speaker 1: by maybe Terry Francona bte by some opinion. You go
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Speaker 1: ahead and walk lefty on lefty to Ashley, turn around
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Speaker 1: a guy who last year hit sixty big ones and
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Speaker 1: turned around to face lefty on roddy, and he just
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Speaker 1: goes right out and punishes the first pitch he saw.
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Speaker 1: And in the words of Michael Jordan, after seeing that
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Speaker 1: intentional walk, I was disrespected, to paraphrase that. But what
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Speaker 1: did you define out of that moment as far as
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Speaker 1: we cal Rawly did, and maybe how this affects his team.
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Speaker 6: Well, first I have to say, and I said it
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Speaker 6: on Twitter last night, that I could see where Terry
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Speaker 6: Francona was coming from, because this season Don can Zone
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Speaker 6: has been much better thaanst left handed pitching, although he's
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Speaker 6: a left handed hitter than cal Rawley. Cal Rawley was
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Speaker 6: slugging I think one before last night against left handed
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Speaker 6: pitching and it certainly helped that Caleb Ferguson through that
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Speaker 6: hanging breaking ball right over the middle of plate on
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Speaker 6: first pitch. But kudos to cal for hitting a home run.
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Speaker 6: He has to hit the home run. You know, I
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Speaker 6: could be staying uhing and I know I wouldn't have
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Speaker 6: hit a home run. I wouldn't I wouldn't have bial,
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't even hit it. But it's a big moment certainly.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 6: The Mariners have feasted on the bullpens of two bad
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Speaker 6: teams over the last three games, and that is important.
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Speaker 6: You have to do those things, but it certainly would
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Speaker 6: be nice to pick up some momentum and uh and
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Speaker 6: take it past this series. You have to go to Texas.
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Speaker 6: They have to go to play the Dodgers, and they're
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Speaker 6: gonna have to beat some good teams. They can't just
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Speaker 6: you know, beat up on the bad guys because the
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Speaker 6: other you know, your competition for these playoff spots are
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Speaker 6: also playing those teams, and so you're gonna have to
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Speaker 6: start beating teams. And especially if you you envision yourself
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Speaker 6: as a World Series contender, you're gonna have to play
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Speaker 6: good teams in the postseason and you may as well
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Speaker 6: start beating them now.
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Speaker 1: Now, I mean, it just seemed as if for a
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Speaker 1: while it was just nothing but to the bottom feeders
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Speaker 1: that you're feasting off here. But it's such a great
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Speaker 1: point because after this, I don't know if you want
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Speaker 1: to call it Murderer's row, but my goodness, the hill
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Speaker 1: gets even steeper up here. And I say drastically because
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Speaker 1: even after Texas, I mean you mentioned this three games
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Speaker 1: at the Dodgers, the Twins are kind of hanging around
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Speaker 1: this right now. Detroit, whatever you want to make of then.
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Speaker 1: But Tampa Bay, my goodness, they're playing lights out baseball
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Speaker 1: at the Yankees, then at Houston, your division rival at Milwaukee,
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, taking the mantle now for the
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Speaker 1: best record in baseball. Then you got the Cubs, then
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Speaker 1: you got the Phillies. In the Blue Jays, a hitch
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Speaker 1: just keep on coming, and you really can't breathe here
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Speaker 1: until about i'd say mid September, when you go and
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Speaker 1: face the Angels at about September fourteenth, and by then
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Speaker 1: your fate already might be decided here. But getting back
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Speaker 1: to cal Rawley, besides the swing that he put on
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Speaker 1: and all that he has been fighting this year with mechanics,
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Speaker 1: with health, how far along are you convinced maybe that
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Speaker 1: this might be a turning point.
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure what to make of just last night,
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Speaker 6: because he really hadn't done a lot since its short span,
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Speaker 6: since the all start break. But for me, my expectations
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Speaker 6: if he's healthy and once he gets his swing where
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Speaker 6: he wants his swings. Let's he's a switch hitter, so
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Speaker 6: there's two swings to manage. H I see to him
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Speaker 6: as a probably a twenty five to thirty percent above
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Speaker 6: the league average as far as productivity, and I think
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Speaker 6: that's a reasonable expectation. Was that's what he's done. You know,
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Speaker 6: take put last year aside and just look at the
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Speaker 6: years prior, the three years prior. That's basically what he was.
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Speaker 6: He's twenty you know, WRC plus one twenty five to
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Speaker 6: one thirty, and WRC plus is average is one hundred
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Speaker 6: every year, and so if you're a one twenty five,
18:49
Speaker 6: you're twenty five percent above the league average. And that
18:52
Speaker 6: is what he has been. And so if he's healthy,
18:56
Speaker 6: he could still be a very productive hitter. Bro at
18:58
Speaker 6: this point he is league average, that would be pretty good.
19:03
Speaker 1: I think. Also, yeah, go ahead, yeah.
19:05
Speaker 6: And I would say the same to him for Josh Nayler. Yeah, yeah,
19:09
Speaker 6: don Jacob Crawford. Yeah, you know, if we just had
19:12
Speaker 6: more league average guys to go with that great pitching
19:14
Speaker 6: and then a few guys really crushing it, it'd be okay.
19:18
Speaker 4: Ye yeah.
19:19
Speaker 1: Luke Ark is joining us right now on the Beacon
19:21
Speaker 1: Plumbing hot line. I want to get to dom can
19:23
Speaker 1: zone as well, because I mean, what, once upon a
19:26
Speaker 1: time he was a guy that was called up. You
19:28
Speaker 1: put him in, you plug him in where you can
19:30
Speaker 1: maybe fit him in here, there's a platoon thing going on.
19:33
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, now he's not just getting opportunities,
19:38
Speaker 1: which says enough with how this baseball team operates against lefties,
19:42
Speaker 1: but he's now all of a sudden starting to produce
19:44
Speaker 1: against lefties. And then you, all of a sudden get
19:46
Speaker 1: to the point last night where again Terry Francona prefers
19:49
Speaker 1: to avoid him to go to cal Rawley. So I
19:53
Speaker 1: think to you, what level of surprise are you seeing
19:56
Speaker 1: with where dom Can zone is at now in this lineup?
20:01
Speaker 6: Well, you know, the second half last year he hit
20:04
Speaker 6: left handed pitching. He was a small sample, so it's
20:06
Speaker 6: tough to say he had figured it out. Or that
20:09
Speaker 6: he was going to be productive. But I was surprised
20:12
Speaker 6: coming into the season that they the managers didn't give
20:14
Speaker 6: him more opportunities based on what he did when they
20:17
Speaker 6: gave him a chance last year. Instead, they went really
20:21
Speaker 6: to the straight platoon, and then once the platoon wasn't working,
20:24
Speaker 6: it they took it took a long time for them
20:26
Speaker 6: to finally give him an opportunity against lefties, and he's
20:30
Speaker 6: delivered and still at this small sample and it's you
20:34
Speaker 6: can't say with certainty that he is going to be
20:36
Speaker 6: this hitter against lefties for the rest of his career.
20:38
Speaker 6: But if he's just decent against left east and then
20:41
Speaker 6: great against right, he's you have a very good You
20:43
Speaker 6: have a very good hitter you can play every day.
20:46
Speaker 6: And I believe he can be that guy. But he's
20:49
Speaker 6: always been a guy that they could hit right handed pitching.
20:53
Speaker 6: And but the thing for him is he has to
20:55
Speaker 6: hit because the defense is not it's below average, his
20:59
Speaker 6: speed is slightly blow average, and so his value will
21:04
Speaker 6: always be with his bat. And uh, it's a nice
21:07
Speaker 6: thing to see that he's flourished into the player that
21:09
Speaker 6: he is this year for them, where would they be
21:11
Speaker 6: without Dominic Canzo helping out there. I mean it's it's
21:15
Speaker 6: it's been a nice thing to see.
21:17
Speaker 1: What about Coley Young, Where are they without him?
21:23
Speaker 6: Uh, they're the definitely would have lost a few more
21:28
Speaker 6: games for them.
21:33
Speaker 1: Yeah.
21:34
Speaker 6: God, he's still a work in pro like he's not
21:37
Speaker 6: he's not hitting left handed, pitching particularly well. Uh, he's
21:40
Speaker 6: hitting about the same as last year, which was a
21:43
Speaker 6: weakness for him early in the season. He was. Uh,
21:47
Speaker 6: but he's he's a good player. He's a good solid
21:49
Speaker 6: player to have on your team, and he's definitely providing value.
21:54
Speaker 6: And what he becomes we will see, but they would
21:59
Speaker 6: they definitely need The guy.
22:02
Speaker 1: Who is producing right now is again Luke Arkan's joining
22:04
Speaker 1: us right now with the Beacon Plumbing hotline. I mean
22:06
Speaker 1: he's He's had a couple of big hits here for
22:08
Speaker 1: this team to come. I even think going back to
22:10
Speaker 1: the Giant Series and what he did back on Saturday
22:13
Speaker 1: to kind of help maybe turn matters around, if not
22:15
Speaker 1: for the long term future, at least for that series.
22:18
Speaker 1: But you've got him. You had no JP Crawford last night.
22:21
Speaker 1: You know where he factors in big question mark there's
22:24
Speaker 1: Cole Emerson's place in this line up period to factor in.
22:27
Speaker 1: So this all kind of ties into Brendan Donovan when
22:31
Speaker 1: he is finally back, I mean finally with a capital
22:34
Speaker 1: F here at this point, where where where does this
22:38
Speaker 1: all fit? I think as far as once you plug
22:41
Speaker 1: Donovan in, what suits this baseball team the best, considering
22:45
Speaker 1: where JP plays, how much he plays, where Cole Young plays,
22:49
Speaker 1: and where Cole Emerson's fit is also in this as well.
22:52
Speaker 6: I believe col Emerson is the odd man out here.
22:56
Speaker 6: I know that marenis Twitter is being sidekick on the
23:00
Speaker 6: hit but that's not you know, because I'm always pointing
23:02
Speaker 6: out his high strike out rate and it's his low production.
23:07
Speaker 6: But he's he's really struggling right now. He's dotting averages
23:11
Speaker 6: somewhere around one ninety right now. His defense is average. Uh,
23:15
Speaker 6: he's I don't know if he's a he's a long
23:18
Speaker 6: term shortstop. But I can see why the Marion as
23:22
Speaker 6: signed to an extension. But for this year, if you're
23:24
Speaker 6: trying to win, it's it's not a failure. And if
23:27
Speaker 6: he were to go back to Tacoma and work on
23:30
Speaker 6: some things, and so if he's moved and maybe Cole
23:33
Speaker 6: Young plays more shortstop. Maybe JP plays some shortstop and
23:38
Speaker 6: then Brendan Donovan and m JP are playing some third base,
23:43
Speaker 6: you know, whatever the mix and matches there, and and
23:49
Speaker 6: but if I had to pick one, it would be
23:50
Speaker 6: Emerson would be the guy that's out. But let's let's
23:52
Speaker 6: wait for Donovan to get back before we we we
23:56
Speaker 6: we send the kid back to Tacoma.
24:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, I.
24:00
Speaker 3: Wanted to follow up on that, when you say the
24:02
Speaker 3: kid back to Tacoma. We've seen some confidence killers when
24:05
Speaker 3: it comes to guys being and I'm not saying that
24:07
Speaker 3: Colt was brought up too early, but we have seen
24:10
Speaker 3: in the past, and there's a couple of notable names,
24:13
Speaker 3: very high round draft picks or trade options that we
24:16
Speaker 3: have acquired here that did have a little bit of
24:21
Speaker 3: an I five syndrome of coming back up and down
24:24
Speaker 3: and up and down, and I'm wondering if they would
24:27
Speaker 3: retain him. As we see with veterans, you don't want
24:30
Speaker 3: to kill the lock or the clubhouse. I should say,
24:33
Speaker 3: you don't want to kill that vibe when it comes
24:35
Speaker 3: to veterans. But when it comes to a young guy,
24:37
Speaker 3: does it worry you about killing that confidence and almost
24:41
Speaker 3: shaking up what the progression of he could be as
24:43
Speaker 3: an athlete.
24:46
Speaker 6: I believe it could hurt his confidence. Jess Mana and
24:49
Speaker 6: I had some doubts that Again, Manors Twitter was very angry.
24:53
Speaker 6: And then when I pointed out his strikeout ray was
24:55
Speaker 6: about twenty eight percent, call that. And he wasn't in
24:58
Speaker 6: Tacoma for a very long time this year, nor was
25:00
Speaker 6: he at the end of last season. But he struck
25:02
Speaker 6: out a lot more than he did at Double A.
25:05
Speaker 6: And my thought is, if you're striking out at nearly
25:08
Speaker 6: thirty percent in the minors, you're probably going to strike
25:11
Speaker 6: out more in the majors because the pitching is better
25:15
Speaker 6: and all that. I do wonder where's the tipping point
25:20
Speaker 6: for someone like that. Clearly, the you know, the management
25:25
Speaker 6: is there every day talking to the player. They know
25:28
Speaker 6: the player. But you know, there's two things. One you
25:33
Speaker 6: want to protect the player and two you want to win.
25:36
Speaker 6: And what's the best move to make that happen, and
25:40
Speaker 6: maybe sending him back down And let's remember, you know,
25:43
Speaker 6: it's been a few years now, but Mike Trout was
25:45
Speaker 6: sent down and he came back and he was he
25:48
Speaker 6: never went back down. And I'm not saying he's the
25:50
Speaker 6: next Mike Trout. I'm just saying that a great player
25:52
Speaker 6: like Mike Trout can be sent down and still come back,
25:57
Speaker 6: have the confidence and then become a but he's gonna be.
26:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's such a great point because I even go
26:02
Speaker 1: to the NHL where we can talk about you know,
26:05
Speaker 1: player A player B, you know, can't miss guy coming
26:09
Speaker 1: up the ranks. All of a sudden, he figures out, Hey,
26:12
Speaker 1: I'm playing with the big boys, and life wasn't as
26:15
Speaker 1: easy as compared to when I was playing against maybe
26:17
Speaker 1: less skilled talent. But when you go play with the
26:20
Speaker 1: big boys, despite being a young man's game, you are
26:23
Speaker 1: expected to jump right in with no hiccups. It is
26:27
Speaker 1: not a developmental league. Lou Gark is joining us right
26:30
Speaker 1: now here in the Beacon plumbing hot lines. So I
26:32
Speaker 1: go back to cold Emerson once again. Should there be
26:35
Speaker 1: a triple A stint for him? At some point you
26:39
Speaker 1: mentioned things he's got to work on to you. Is
26:41
Speaker 1: this more mental or is this more technical?
26:45
Speaker 6: I'm guessing it's technical because there's something that you know now.
26:49
Speaker 6: They're they're throwing, you know, the high fastball, and he's
26:53
Speaker 6: just not just like cal He's not he's not getting it,
26:58
Speaker 6: and he's is a lot of swinging with that, and
27:01
Speaker 6: so I would that's what I think. Of course, I'm
27:04
Speaker 6: a nerd and I'm not the smart guy when it
27:08
Speaker 6: comes to looking at wings like that, but certainly, and
27:12
Speaker 6: the other thing I would say, just on Emerson, and
27:14
Speaker 6: I love the kid, and just because I point out
27:18
Speaker 6: some things, it isn't that I that I don't like him.
27:21
Speaker 6: It's a matter of I am concerned about his long
27:24
Speaker 6: term success. But you know, rhetorical question, is he even
27:29
Speaker 6: with the Mariners if Brendan Donovan never gets.
27:32
Speaker 1: Hurt, which is a great question I think here.
27:36
Speaker 6: I mean, he was brought up probably quickly because there
27:39
Speaker 6: was an injury, and now Donovan's injury has lingered, probably
27:42
Speaker 6: longer than the Manners thought it would, and so they
27:45
Speaker 6: don't really have another answer other than to stick with
27:47
Speaker 6: the kid right now. So that's why I think when
27:51
Speaker 6: when Donovan comes back finally with the big f like
27:54
Speaker 6: you said, then he will, uh, it would make sense
27:57
Speaker 6: to send Emerson back down.
28:00
Speaker 1: There's just still a thing that that might be about
28:02
Speaker 1: roughly a month away until Donovan has finally said to
28:04
Speaker 1: return here to the big leagues. I want to get
28:07
Speaker 1: to George Kirby. Last night, once again sixth grade quality
28:09
Speaker 1: started appears that once again he's getting his game dialed
28:12
Speaker 1: up for what it means the most at this time
28:14
Speaker 1: of year. Six innings but out after eighty pitches. How
28:18
Speaker 1: surprised were you to see him out that quick and
28:21
Speaker 1: then going to Nick Davila in the seventh I.
28:24
Speaker 6: Was surprised, especially, you know, maybe there's there's a reason
28:29
Speaker 6: that we don't know that. You know, between Pete Woodward
28:33
Speaker 6: and Dan Wilson and George Kirby, there was a discussion
28:37
Speaker 6: about something as to why they would pull him early
28:42
Speaker 6: going into the game. Maybe they had that sort of plan.
28:44
Speaker 6: But when you look at the time off and the
28:48
Speaker 6: situation with the bullpen, it certainly was interesting. You know,
28:52
Speaker 6: it's great the Marinis scored a bunch of runs and
28:54
Speaker 6: that that made that problem potential prom go away, but
28:58
Speaker 6: it's sort of what were they going to do in
29:00
Speaker 6: the ninth inning it was still one one zero game.
29:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's no.
29:04
Speaker 6: But it's just like if they if they if they
29:07
Speaker 6: end up losing the game because they're with their second
29:10
Speaker 6: or third level reliever in the ninth inning or in
29:14
Speaker 6: the eighth inning. Are we questioning Dan Wilson again, Well,
29:19
Speaker 6: we don't have to worry about because the teams that
29:21
Speaker 6: bailed them out on that particular point, and.
29:24
Speaker 1: One guy that was in the middle of all of
29:26
Speaker 1: that from where we go back to the piggyback thing
29:28
Speaker 1: was Luis Castil. He'll start tonight here against this former
29:31
Speaker 1: team against the Reds, and they've at least put this
29:34
Speaker 1: piggyback thing to bed. It's a six man rotation as
29:36
Speaker 1: of right now here for this homestand but I think
29:39
Speaker 1: a great question to ask is, you know, how's this
29:42
Speaker 1: all going to sort of self out? Whether you go
29:44
Speaker 1: to the trade market for a guy and try to
29:46
Speaker 1: release the pressure valve here with this rotation. But then
29:50
Speaker 1: it begs the question of what do they do once
29:52
Speaker 1: Kate Anderson or Ryan Sloan and or Ryan Sloan are
29:56
Speaker 1: also called up if they are called up here for
29:58
Speaker 1: this baseball team, if they're still hanging around here for
30:01
Speaker 1: this stretch drives. So you know, I think once Anderson
30:05
Speaker 1: and or Sloan are up here, where do you begin
30:07
Speaker 1: with expectations?
30:10
Speaker 6: Well, I'm hopeful that there'll be like two or three
30:13
Speaker 6: piggybacks just because I know how much you like it,
30:16
Speaker 6: We'll just everybody. Everybody would be piggybacked. I guess it
30:22
Speaker 6: depends on what the Manners anticipate to do with those
30:24
Speaker 6: two guys as far as workload, what's their limitation And
30:29
Speaker 6: you know, I always say too, like keep an eye
30:33
Speaker 6: on what they're doing. If those two guys are doing
30:36
Speaker 6: in the miners, how often are they pitching? If they're
30:39
Speaker 6: right now, they're on a six six man cycle once
30:43
Speaker 6: a week basically pitching cycle. And so if that were
30:46
Speaker 6: the change, if they started working out of the bullpenal,
30:48
Speaker 6: or maybe it was short to a five day rotation,
30:51
Speaker 6: then that might be a signal that the Mariners are
30:54
Speaker 6: starting to prepare to bring the player up. That's just
30:57
Speaker 6: my thought on it. I don't know right now. I'm
31:02
Speaker 6: pretty happy with the rotation as it is. I don't
31:04
Speaker 6: know that that's where I want to get better anyway.
31:07
Speaker 6: I mean, they're top five and most statistics, they're like
31:10
Speaker 6: number two in war they number one innings. Forget whether
31:14
Speaker 6: they're in the era, it's all top five. They're really good.
31:17
Speaker 6: And so that's of all the issues with the team,
31:20
Speaker 6: that's the least of my concerns, right now and you
31:22
Speaker 6: have an extra guy, so that's even better.
31:24
Speaker 1: You can never ever have enough pitching come postseason time. Finally, Luke,
31:29
Speaker 1: most surprising team to you in the American League? Who
31:31
Speaker 1: is it?
31:33
Speaker 7: You know?
31:33
Speaker 6: Maybe the Rays. I didn't really think the Rays were
31:35
Speaker 6: going to do all that, and I know they've kind
31:39
Speaker 6: of had a rough weekend with the Red Sox, but
31:42
Speaker 6: I would say the Rays.
31:44
Speaker 1: What about the Red Sox? Also? I mean, is this
31:46
Speaker 1: for real or is this just a nice run that
31:49
Speaker 1: fizzles out here in about another week or two weeks.
31:53
Speaker 6: No, it's tough to tell that they You know, it's funny.
31:56
Speaker 6: I remember Ken Rosenthal saying about a month ago that
32:00
Speaker 6: the Red Frocks were done, and I thought, oh man,
32:02
Speaker 6: he's probably gonna hate that.
32:04
Speaker 1: It's like the sports cover athlete says it.
32:08
Speaker 6: Well, it's like when you when you make an absolute
32:11
Speaker 6: statement as a high profile person, that tends to come
32:14
Speaker 6: back and haunt you. So uh. You know, when the
32:19
Speaker 6: Mayors played them before this season, I thought they're a
32:22
Speaker 6: pretty decent team. They're pitching seemed to be pretty good,
32:24
Speaker 6: and you know, I always believe that pitching is what
32:27
Speaker 6: carries the day, and that's why I continue to believe
32:30
Speaker 6: in the Mariners. But the Red Flaxes certainly aren't surprised
32:32
Speaker 6: now right now the number of games they've won in
32:34
Speaker 6: a row. And and like I say, they come out
32:37
Speaker 6: of the break and they sweep a division rival. That's huge.
32:40
Speaker 6: And the Yankees are sort of flopping a twitch a
32:43
Speaker 6: little bit with that, Aaron Judge, and they looked more.
32:47
Speaker 6: You know, two months ago, I thought the Yankees are
32:49
Speaker 6: gonna be in the ALCS, and now I'm not certain
32:52
Speaker 6: whether the stature is for the postseason.
32:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, to borrow the line from the famous movie back
32:59
Speaker 1: in the nineties with the Yankees, it feels like right
33:01
Speaker 1: now like a box of chot but you never know
33:03
Speaker 1: what you're going to get. But Tampa Bay is going
33:06
Speaker 1: to be in here August seventh for a three game series,
33:08
Speaker 1: Mariners at the Red Sox August thirty. First, we'll see
33:11
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33:15
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33:17
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33:19
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34:08
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34:11
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Speaker 1: us earlier this morning Mike with Jessaman and for Greg Bell.
34:49
Speaker 1: Greg is back tomorrow from vacation. We'll need the family time.
34:52
Speaker 1: Also in the rearview mirror for him seeing folks out
34:55
Speaker 1: here from the East coast. Greg has got a lot
34:59
Speaker 1: to dive into here, not just with the Seahawks, but
35:01
Speaker 1: also difference of where the Mariners are at now versus
35:04
Speaker 1: when he left before the All Star break and things
35:08
Speaker 1: were low when they hit that Miami and that Tampa
35:11
Speaker 1: Bay trip and got even lower anna vacation. I think,
35:15
Speaker 1: I think, I think Gray can stay out there for
35:17
Speaker 1: as long as he wants. Right, we can have you
35:21
Speaker 1: in a little bit.
35:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's main job.
35:24
Speaker 3: It's definitely Seahawks, So I believe he's gonna have to
35:27
Speaker 3: come back. However, in the superstitious sport of bass, would
35:32
Speaker 3: you like to look into those.
35:33
Speaker 1: Little might have something to say about that.
35:35
Speaker 2: I mean, I was there yesterday and they won.
35:38
Speaker 1: So which means you're back out there again today, which means.
35:40
Speaker 2: I'm definitely going back out and I'm gonna go to
35:45
Speaker 2: the game.
35:46
Speaker 3: I did pre game for our station yesterday, and I'm
35:50
Speaker 3: actually gonna go to the game tonight too.
35:51
Speaker 1: Yes, I've also I've also got plans here for tonight.
35:54
Speaker 1: I did not I was at I was at the
35:55
Speaker 1: ballpark for Friday's game, did not stick around for the
35:58
Speaker 1: game that night because of some other ogations I had
36:00
Speaker 1: going on, but enough to kind of cover the whole
36:03
Speaker 1: basics work wise. But I am bringing family back out
36:06
Speaker 1: to night, so hopefully that that can be a bit
36:07
Speaker 1: of a good luck charm to kind of kick in.
36:10
Speaker 1: That's the hope here. But I go back to just
36:15
Speaker 1: last night where the Mariners again were just hanging on
36:18
Speaker 1: and it appeared to be for dear life up one nothing.
36:21
Speaker 1: You had George Kirby absolutely shoving. But once again, could
36:26
Speaker 1: you find signs of life for an offense that just
36:31
Speaker 1: doesn't have to rely on the home run ball? That's them?
36:36
Speaker 1: Yet they finally found an opening once that seventh inning came.
36:41
Speaker 1: They got runners on base. Terry Francona alucks to roll
36:45
Speaker 1: the dice and bring up cal Rawley that rather than
36:50
Speaker 1: prefer have Caleb Ferguson, who mouthed off at an umpire
36:54
Speaker 1: and it was not pretty. If you want to know
36:57
Speaker 1: what he said, go on the X machine. There are
37:00
Speaker 1: plenty of interpretations of what he said, and there is
37:03
Speaker 1: some things that we cannot say on the air that
37:06
Speaker 1: he said to that umpire. Was Carmel waiting for him,
37:10
Speaker 1: maybe right around the corner. Well, Terry Francona said, forget
37:13
Speaker 1: the lefty on lefty. I respect dom can Zone more
37:19
Speaker 1: than cal Rawley, and you can bet coming up bases
37:22
Speaker 1: loaded the preference to turn cal Rawley around lefty versus
37:26
Speaker 1: righty to face him. It brings back the old Michael
37:31
Speaker 1: Jordan meme. I felt disrespected and cal Rawley disrespected of
37:37
Speaker 1: baseball like we haven't seen in months. Bench goes crazy,
37:43
Speaker 1: which then brings the question back do the Mariners have
37:46
Speaker 1: enough fire? Have they had enough fire? These were valid
37:51
Speaker 1: questions we were asking for a few days in a
37:55
Speaker 1: row about this baseball team and the state of affairs,
37:59
Speaker 1: which maybe look bleak heading into inning six last Saturday
38:05
Speaker 1: against the Giants, Cole Young gave them a little bit
38:08
Speaker 1: of hope and that was enough to drag him right
38:10
Speaker 1: back into the game. But now it brings the question
38:13
Speaker 1: of is the energy back? Because I guarantee you, if
38:18
Speaker 1: you're feeling comfortable, any team will say this. When you're
38:21
Speaker 1: feeling comfortable, that is where you are in your biggest
38:25
Speaker 1: position of peril, because with comfort comes complacency, and then
38:32
Speaker 1: it all falls apart after that. I remember Friday at
38:37
Speaker 1: work on the Mariner's side, going through the clubhouse, going
38:41
Speaker 1: through the tunnel on the way to the dugout. There
38:44
Speaker 1: was one note I saw that was on the wall
38:46
Speaker 1: walking out there, and it had to do with be
38:49
Speaker 1: comfortable with being uncomfortable. Let's just say the message is
38:54
Speaker 1: already getting through.
38:56
Speaker 2: That's something my dad says all the time.
38:58
Speaker 1: Be comfortable with being uncomfortable. It oftentimes brings out the
39:03
Speaker 1: best in you. So we go to cal Rawley's comments
39:07
Speaker 1: last night about the energy in the dugout and from
39:12
Speaker 1: that big moment, and you're just cal Rawley meaning with
39:14
Speaker 1: the media, Yeah, I mean it.
39:15
Speaker 4: Means a lot.
39:16
Speaker 7: They're you know, I feel like I feel like the
39:20
Speaker 7: group's goods fired now. You know, I feel like the
39:24
Speaker 7: last three games, the energy has definitely been up, you know, hustling, uh,
39:30
Speaker 7: doing the little things. I saw tonight a couple of
39:33
Speaker 7: plays where you know, and even the other day, you know, uh,
39:36
Speaker 7: guys fumble the ball, running hard down the line, playing
39:39
Speaker 7: with energy in the field, and I, uh, you know,
39:42
Speaker 7: I know that's what we're capable of, and you know,
39:44
Speaker 7: I think the game will will reward you when you're
39:48
Speaker 7: playing the right way. And uh, you know, like I said,
39:52
Speaker 7: you know they've been very very good, very positive and
39:55
Speaker 7: us energy in the dugout and and you can feel it,
39:58
Speaker 7: uh you know, really good about you know where we're heading.
40:02
Speaker 2: Where does that come from?
40:05
Speaker 4: You know, I think.
40:08
Speaker 7: You know, it's been a hard year, uh, you know
40:11
Speaker 7: overall with frustrating and I think sometimes we can you know,
40:15
Speaker 7: start to uh, you know, feel sorry for yourself or
40:18
Speaker 7: you know, get a little frustrated. But but understanding that,
40:22
Speaker 7: you know, there's still a lot of season left and
40:24
Speaker 7: you know we're we're still on the hunt of it,
40:25
Speaker 7: and and uh, we still have a job to do.
40:27
Speaker 7: And I think you know, understanding that and and guys
40:31
Speaker 7: kind of taking on that challenge of Okay, we're gonna
40:34
Speaker 7: show up every day and you know, we don't really
40:36
Speaker 7: care about you know, ourselves or the individual performance, where
40:40
Speaker 7: we're trying to play for each other, play for the team.
40:42
Speaker 7: And and I think that's something that we kind of
40:46
Speaker 7: kind of you know, went over and talked and and
40:49
Speaker 7: you know, trying to make that a play emphasis of
40:52
Speaker 7: you know, obviously team first, playing hard and playing the
40:54
Speaker 7: game the right way, and and you know, the rest
40:56
Speaker 7: will fall into place, you know, based on you know
41:00
Speaker 7: who we have in this bucker.
41:02
Speaker 1: That was cal Rawly with the media, leading me to
41:04
Speaker 1: wonder here about this, is it fair to question are
41:08
Speaker 1: they back fully because they're facing the Giants and facing
41:12
Speaker 1: the Reds. The answer is yes, without question. They should
41:16
Speaker 1: be punishing these teams regardless of lineup because it only
41:20
Speaker 1: gets tougher from here on out. But again, do I
41:23
Speaker 1: have to remind you the Rangers, Dodgers, Tampa Bay, Yankees
41:28
Speaker 1: at the Astros, at Milwaukee Cubs, Phillies, Blue Jays, Red Sox,
41:34
Speaker 1: A's Rangers, Athletics. Again, then you hit mid September. But
41:39
Speaker 1: also at this point is a cliche to wonder could
41:43
Speaker 1: one game be a turnaround? Maybe, but it gets the
41:47
Speaker 1: deeper question, was this team getting mad enough? Are they
41:53
Speaker 1: now getting mad enough? You tell me? Four nine four
41:56
Speaker 1: five one Tacoma doage text line top backs are open
41:59
Speaker 1: as well?
42:00
Speaker 6: Well?
42:00
Speaker 1: Are the Mariners showing signs of life where they're getting
42:04
Speaker 1: mad enough because they saw their leader being disrespected from
42:10
Speaker 1: Terry Francona the preference to pitch to him and the
42:13
Speaker 1: first pitch that cal Rawley sees was about demolished halfway
42:18
Speaker 1: to Edmund's and we saw how the dugout reacted. It's
42:23
Speaker 1: the kind of energy that you need to sustain yourself.
42:27
Speaker 1: That's where I see a promising sign of life.
42:30
Speaker 2: I do too.
42:31
Speaker 3: And like they say, and we've heard it from several players,
42:34
Speaker 3: hitting is contagious and as soon as you see something
42:37
Speaker 3: like that, I'm sorry. There is a lot of emotion
42:39
Speaker 3: that goes into a game that is one hundred and
42:42
Speaker 3: sixty two games a season, and you have to have that.
42:46
Speaker 3: There is going to be the personal side that comes
42:49
Speaker 3: into it, and we saw a really good side of
42:51
Speaker 3: that last week.
42:52
Speaker 1: Which even I mean, I don't have much time here
42:53
Speaker 1: for this, but it also brings the old Dan Wilson
42:55
Speaker 1: equation up. And we heard Logan Gilbert bring this up,
42:58
Speaker 1: you know, with Softy Show yesterday. I mean one hundred percent,
43:02
Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert said, this entire clubhouse is right behind Dan Wilson.
43:08
Speaker 1: That tracks also with what Aaron Goldsmith told us here
43:12
Speaker 1: on this show last week. He is a connector. He
43:16
Speaker 1: gets guys ready, he gets guys feeling confident to play
43:22
Speaker 1: the best that they can play. Is a fair maybe
43:24
Speaker 1: to say that the jury is still out on late
43:27
Speaker 1: game decision making when the game is won nothing, two
43:29
Speaker 1: to one, three to two. Absolutely, this is where he
43:33
Speaker 1: has a growth area. But from what we've heard, not
43:37
Speaker 1: just from the booth but also from a picture from
43:40
Speaker 1: the inside, there is still one hundred percent, without question,
43:47
Speaker 1: the backing of a manager who can get players ready
43:51
Speaker 1: to play at their best. It was maybe a matter
43:53
Speaker 1: of time for them to find that moment within themselves.
43:57
Speaker 1: Like we hear in baseball, like we hear the NHL
44:01
Speaker 1: other pro sports, you can lead the horse to water,
44:05
Speaker 1: you can't force it to drink. The Mariners are finally drinking,
44:10
Speaker 1: and they're drinking the winning water. Once again. That was
44:13
Speaker 1: so important I thought from last night in that one
44:16
Speaker 1: moment that took a close game put it in to blowout,
44:20
Speaker 1: where a leader basically opened up and said, you want
44:23
Speaker 1: to want to get to me, do not disrespect me.
44:27
Speaker 1: Coming up after this, we turn our page here to
44:29
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. So close have you been waiting long enough?
44:34
Speaker 1: So close to training camp? As far as the underlying matters,
44:38
Speaker 1: is there a calmer concern with those like Zach Sherbinay
44:42
Speaker 1: Nicki and Warri Maybe even a Sam Donald repeat season,
44:45
Speaker 1: and maybe even the perception of how the Seahawks are
44:49
Speaker 1: respected across the football world. Guess who's gonna talk with
44:53
Speaker 1: us about this? The one, the only QB one Hugh
44:57
Speaker 1: Millan joining us next right here in ninety three three
44:58
Speaker 1: kg erafin. Oh, you can tell we're about a few
45:22
Speaker 1: days away from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. And finally
45:26
Speaker 1: the Seahawks being right back because everyone's getting back from
45:29
Speaker 1: vacation and a certain QB one is frothing at the
45:34
Speaker 1: mouth once again to get going and talk everything about
45:37
Speaker 1: this football team that once again is a cream of
45:39
Speaker 1: the crop in the National Football League. Mike Benton with
45:43
Speaker 1: Jessamine in for Greg Bell for one more day. Greg
45:46
Speaker 1: is on vacation back tomorrow, but without further ado, our
45:50
Speaker 1: beloved one and only QB one Humillon joining us right
45:53
Speaker 1: now on the Beacon Plumbing hotline. Huet, it's been too long,
45:57
Speaker 1: going to get you back up into town here, my man,
45:58
Speaker 1: how are you doing to be with you?
46:00
Speaker 6: Yeah?
46:00
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the calm before the storm, as they say,
46:04
Speaker 5: right so a lot of eyes and focus on the Seahawks.
46:08
Speaker 5: Gonna be fun to have the HBO crew out there,
46:12
Speaker 5: and you know, there's nothing like being the defending champ,
46:15
Speaker 5: so good on them.
46:17
Speaker 1: Hard knocks is coming, and the whole parade, the whole
46:20
Speaker 1: cavalry of cameras, phones, microphones, you name it, it is
46:23
Speaker 1: coming here because this football team has arrived once again,
46:27
Speaker 1: but a different identity versus roughly about ten to eleven
46:30
Speaker 1: years ago. But we are now officially in the Mike
46:33
Speaker 1: McDonald we did not care era and we're going to
46:37
Speaker 1: get to a few things. I think that kind of
46:39
Speaker 1: define maybe are you calm about this or are you
46:43
Speaker 1: concerned about this? Because it seems like everything and a
46:46
Speaker 1: lot of it is going fine with I think depending
46:49
Speaker 1: upon where you look at, you know, coaching with the
46:52
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, a QB that has proven a lot,
46:56
Speaker 1: and where they can fill the gaps here with the
46:58
Speaker 1: absence of Kenneth walk Sure, but you have arguably the
47:01
Speaker 1: best receiver now in the game and a defense that
47:04
Speaker 1: once again has its own identity, kind of in similar
47:08
Speaker 1: fashion to about roughly ten years ago. But Hugh, I'll
47:11
Speaker 1: begin with concern or calm for you. First off, Zach
47:15
Speaker 1: Charbonay's health. You have the ACL injury and the evaluation
47:19
Speaker 1: coming up in July. Here for the timeline, I mean,
47:22
Speaker 1: how concerned are you or how calm are you with
47:25
Speaker 1: his potential timeline to be back and make an impact.
47:28
Speaker 5: Well, I think that he's going to be back around
47:31
Speaker 5: mid season. I would say, on a relative scale, I'm
47:34
Speaker 5: calm about that, in part because as you frame the question,
47:39
Speaker 5: I think there's an implied Maybe it's not implied, but
47:42
Speaker 5: I think for many I feel like, Okay, Zach Sharbonnay,
47:46
Speaker 5: is you know, some kind of central cog to the wheel.
47:51
Speaker 5: I don't want to say he's unimportant, but you know,
47:55
Speaker 5: I evaluated him as a guy that was maybe an
47:59
Speaker 5: upper level backup type player. I think he's a fringe
48:02
Speaker 5: starter for anybody. And if you're a Super Bowl champion,
48:06
Speaker 5: you know I'm not gonna fret about a fringe starter. Now,
48:09
Speaker 5: maybe I'm wrong. If the evidence pours in and and
48:13
Speaker 5: and I see something something from him on a consistent
48:16
Speaker 5: basis that I've only seen on very very very isolated cases,
48:19
Speaker 5: then then I'll have a different take on him. But
48:22
Speaker 5: I I I think that the concern for me is more.
48:27
Speaker 5: You know Kenneth Walker, and uh, now you draft a
48:31
Speaker 5: first round pick to replace him, and uh, you can
48:36
Speaker 5: assume that Jade and Price is going to be a
48:40
Speaker 5: guy that can step up, and until we see it,
48:42
Speaker 5: I'm concerned about losing Kenneth Walker. I'm not concerned about
48:48
Speaker 5: Zach Charbonnet in any significant sense because I just don't
48:53
Speaker 5: think that that that the sea arks are going to
48:56
Speaker 5: be relying heavily on him.
48:57
Speaker 1: What's the danger of rushing him back? Well, I would
49:02
Speaker 1: say twofold.
49:03
Speaker 5: You know, he can exacerbate it and you know, find
49:06
Speaker 5: himself back on him, you know, a month or six weeks,
49:08
Speaker 5: you know, have to have another surgery, I guess would
49:11
Speaker 5: be worst case scenario. But I think that maybe you know,
49:14
Speaker 5: if he's come back three weeks too early and he
49:18
Speaker 5: doesn't have the same confidence on the leg, you know,
49:21
Speaker 5: if he's wearing a leg brace. I've always kind of
49:23
Speaker 5: been prejudice against running backs who wear leg braces because saying,
49:28
Speaker 5: if you got a knee brace on one knee, you're
49:31
Speaker 5: just telling me that you don't have confidence either mentally
49:34
Speaker 5: or structurally, that you're not one hundred percent. And I
49:39
Speaker 5: just think that's one position you know that in cornerback
49:42
Speaker 5: probably like like how can you play with a knee brace?
49:44
Speaker 5: So I think that that would be the concern that
49:47
Speaker 5: he comes back. I mean, I already think one hundred
49:49
Speaker 5: percent of Zach Sarbonnet is a fringe starter slash quality backup.
49:54
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm wrong on that.
49:56
Speaker 5: But now if you say he's eighty ninety percent of
50:00
Speaker 5: Zach Sharbonay, well you can you can infer what the
50:04
Speaker 5: assessment would be from there.
50:06
Speaker 1: I think you also opened the door here to the
50:07
Speaker 1: conversation with the Jendarian Price, because you know, in all honesty,
50:11
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't get picked, perhaps if a Charbonay gets
50:14
Speaker 1: hurt or be even Kenneth Walker leagues. But here we
50:17
Speaker 1: are at this point, and I think given the fact
50:19
Speaker 1: that you know there's a small sample size of him,
50:22
Speaker 1: you know, trap behind Jeremiah Love and went to Arizona.
50:26
Speaker 1: He's got Brian Flurry as his offensive coordinator, who's you know,
50:30
Speaker 1: by all accounts great with running schemes. But Jadarian Price
50:35
Speaker 1: as an immediate impact running back. Calmer concerned for you, Well,
50:41
Speaker 1: I would say, I don't want to say, Calm.
50:44
Speaker 5: I I've been on record many times of saying Kenneth
50:48
Speaker 5: Walker is a special back, that he's significantly better than
50:53
Speaker 5: Zach Sharbonay.
50:55
Speaker 1: So we don't know.
50:56
Speaker 5: Jenderien Price is a first round pick. As you said,
50:58
Speaker 5: he played behind Jeremiah there was a great opportunity to
51:02
Speaker 5: compare him. You know, his product production compared to Jeremiah Love,
51:08
Speaker 5: and you know, he didn't have the the yards per
51:13
Speaker 5: per carry or yards per after contact. There's a lot
51:17
Speaker 5: of people who felt, if you want to be cynical,
51:19
Speaker 5: that the Notre Dame offensive line was so good that
51:23
Speaker 5: they really were tracking big holes for everybody now. And
51:26
Speaker 5: and you know, for me, in assessing him, I thought
51:30
Speaker 5: his vision was very good. I thought his lateral quickness
51:33
Speaker 5: was exceptional. I would say that the physicality piece was
51:39
Speaker 5: lacking in some respects. There's times where where I just
51:42
Speaker 5: thought he went down to he didn't move the pile
51:45
Speaker 5: that he he you know, safety comes up smacks him,
51:48
Speaker 5: and bam, he just goes down and and so I
51:51
Speaker 5: don't I'm not anticipating great physicality from him. But I
51:55
Speaker 5: think there's a lot of other traits I've mentioned a
51:57
Speaker 5: couple of them that I think make him worthy of
51:59
Speaker 5: a first pick. And in my mind, I'm certainly I'll
52:02
Speaker 5: paint myself this way. I am certainly hopeful, expectant that
52:07
Speaker 5: he's going to be the best running back on the
52:09
Speaker 5: football team. Yeah, because yeah, because if Zach Charbonnay, who's
52:16
Speaker 5: coming off an injury, And I would even say this
52:18
Speaker 5: if Zach Sharbonnay never had an injury last year, I
52:21
Speaker 5: would hope the Genieran Price is better because I think
52:24
Speaker 5: you need somebody better than Zach Sharbeney.
52:26
Speaker 1: And I'll get to you, you know Price. Also, on
52:29
Speaker 1: top of this, with where he played at Notre Dame,
52:31
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Hugh, how often does does it
52:33
Speaker 1: kind of bug you to you know, look through and
52:36
Speaker 1: you know read listen to where a player came from
52:40
Speaker 1: in the college game, and you know you have to
52:42
Speaker 1: factor in, well, how good was his offensive line? But
52:45
Speaker 1: you know, how often does that you know, I think,
52:48
Speaker 1: in an unfair way subtract from the kind of talent
52:51
Speaker 1: because oftentimes, yeah, you can be great, but you're not
52:54
Speaker 1: going to be able to run through any holes if
52:55
Speaker 1: you can't find any holes here in the entire first place.
52:58
Speaker 5: Oh no, there's no question, Mike, that that is absolutely
53:01
Speaker 5: Tell me who's the best running back on the planet
53:05
Speaker 5: Bejon Robinson. Who's the best running back of this century?
53:09
Speaker 5: You know, let's say you say, you know, uh Ladanian, Tomlinson,
53:14
Speaker 5: Adrian Peters.
53:15
Speaker 1: Like I got ms Methon for size back in the
53:18
Speaker 1: old Cowboys era.
53:19
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, that's that's unfortunately that predates the century.
53:23
Speaker 5: But yeah, pick your guy, you know, give me your guy,
53:29
Speaker 5: and then and then let's put him in his prime
53:31
Speaker 5: of his career, twenty six years old. There are there
53:35
Speaker 5: are thousands of plays that if you handed that back
53:40
Speaker 5: that we just described the ball, he's not getting a
53:43
Speaker 5: single yard because it's just not blocked well enough. And uh, furthermore,
53:49
Speaker 5: there are some games that the last guy on the
53:53
Speaker 5: August roster, the guy that you know is going to
53:55
Speaker 5: get cut, has no chance of making team. He could
53:58
Speaker 5: rip off a twenty yarder because the line blocked it
54:02
Speaker 5: so well, and you know, the wide receivers blocked you know,
54:06
Speaker 5: came down and walled off the safety and next thing
54:10
Speaker 5: you got an avenue and anybody who who even remotely
54:15
Speaker 5: has ever carried a football is going to get fifteen
54:17
Speaker 5: twenty yards there. So I think you have to watch
54:19
Speaker 5: for a while to get a sense of Okay, can
54:22
Speaker 5: he create space that's not there? Can he find holes?
54:27
Speaker 5: Can he move a pocket?
54:28
Speaker 3: You know?
54:28
Speaker 1: Can can he make guys miss?
54:30
Speaker 8: You know?
54:31
Speaker 5: That takes extensive film study, to I think to determine,
54:38
Speaker 5: you know, how you feel about a guy. Now, ultimately,
54:40
Speaker 5: you know the law of large numbers. If you give
54:42
Speaker 5: a guy enough carries through the through the course of
54:47
Speaker 5: a season or or a career or what have at
54:49
Speaker 5: some point you say, hey, the guys is the best.
54:52
Speaker 5: Is the guy when we hand him the ball he
54:54
Speaker 5: gets the most yards. There is some truth to that.
54:57
Speaker 5: So I think it's a fine line when we evaluate
54:59
Speaker 5: this guy. But I think it's very important given that
55:02
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl MVP just walked out, and apparently the
55:06
Speaker 5: Kansas City chiefs kind of agree with me because they
55:10
Speaker 5: they you know, they threw fourteen plus million at Canine,
55:14
Speaker 5: you know, thinking that that that's one of the pieces
55:16
Speaker 5: that they really need to get back into the Super
55:19
Speaker 5: Bowl phrase. So that anyway that we're talking about these
55:22
Speaker 5: running backs that is overall I would I would say
55:26
Speaker 5: it's a concern if we don't say the replacement of
55:29
Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker, that is.
55:30
Speaker 1: A concern for me personally. I want to get to safety.
55:33
Speaker 1: NICKI min Warry here. I mean, of course was put
55:36
Speaker 1: on the pup list, and you know a lot of
55:37
Speaker 1: this maybe had to do with injuries here before training
55:40
Speaker 1: camp I mean, it could be likely that it was
55:43
Speaker 1: a plant procedure or something minor, maybe something lighter. Just
55:47
Speaker 1: it all depends upon, you know, passing a physical I mean,
55:50
Speaker 1: he seemed fine at you know, mini camp earlier, but
55:53
Speaker 1: as of right now, NICKI min Warry Calmer concerned for
55:56
Speaker 1: him where you at. I'm concerned because I don't know
56:00
Speaker 1: the nature of it right. I don't like it.
56:04
Speaker 5: I think that he is a brilliant young player. His versatility,
56:07
Speaker 5: versatility is almost unmatched. He gives Mike mcdonnald on an
56:13
Speaker 5: opportunity to play him as a sam linebacker. He can
56:17
Speaker 5: play off the ball in the core of the defense,
56:21
Speaker 5: he can walk out being apex defender of the slot
56:24
Speaker 5: and as a quarterback. Normally you look at a big
56:28
Speaker 5: guy like that and you say, well, okay, they're not
56:32
Speaker 5: man to man against our personnel and our formation there.
56:36
Speaker 5: Based on his alignment with the way he walked out there,
56:38
Speaker 5: I know it's not man to man. And then all
56:40
Speaker 5: of a sudden, he snapped the ball and it is
56:42
Speaker 5: man to man because he's covering Justin Jefferson and he's
56:45
Speaker 5: covering DeVante Adams. That's not hypothetical, that's actualities and by
56:49
Speaker 5: the way, he got pass defense official pass defense against
56:54
Speaker 5: those guys. And he had fifteen pass breakups, which was
56:58
Speaker 5: the fifteenth most the league, and the fourteen who had
57:02
Speaker 5: more were all cornerbacks. So he's a he's the number
57:06
Speaker 5: one player in the NFL and not number one rookie,
57:08
Speaker 5: the number one player in the NFL for pass breakups
57:13
Speaker 5: last year who was not a cornerback. So you know
57:15
Speaker 5: that versatility. You know, he was number two in the
57:19
Speaker 5: NFL in his pass pressure rate at twenty nine percent
57:24
Speaker 5: of the time he blitzed. He he produced a pressure
57:27
Speaker 5: that would there's only one guy in the league was
57:29
Speaker 5: better than him. Now it happened to be Bobby Wagner
57:30
Speaker 5: of all people. And and and defensive linemen don't tend
57:34
Speaker 5: to have again, as we understand percentages, they have a
57:36
Speaker 5: lot more snaps. But of his sixty two rushes he
57:42
Speaker 5: he had, he had what was it, eighteen pressures and
57:45
Speaker 5: that rate is the second highest. So there you figure
57:49
Speaker 5: you want to get him involved with rushing the pass
57:52
Speaker 5: or more. There's an explosiveness to him, his ability to cover,
57:56
Speaker 5: you know, bubble throw, a bubble scream, his long arms,
57:58
Speaker 5: the way he just he just throws wide receivers out
58:01
Speaker 5: of the way and stones those bubble screens. There's just
58:04
Speaker 5: so much to his game that you tell me right
58:07
Speaker 5: now that he's on the pupp list and nobody's reporting
58:12
Speaker 5: what the hell the injury is? Yeah, hell, yes, I'm concerned.
58:17
Speaker 5: Yeah now it You know, somebody could be thinking, calm down, dude, it's.
58:22
Speaker 3: Just to this.
58:22
Speaker 5: It's just to that he had an ingrown hair nail
58:24
Speaker 5: that he had to get extracted from his big toe. Like,
58:28
Speaker 5: there's a lot of reasons where I will immediately get
58:31
Speaker 5: to calm but you asked me right this moment. Today
58:34
Speaker 5: he unexpectedly shows up on the on the pup list. Yeah,
58:38
Speaker 5: I'm concerned. I'm gonna get to Sam Darneld here. And
58:41
Speaker 5: this is different because it's not an injury thing at all.
58:43
Speaker 1: But I mean, he's gone through the whole odyssey of
58:47
Speaker 1: his NFL career as maybe a quarterback where you wanted more,
58:53
Speaker 1: you were asking for more, but he never gave you more,
58:57
Speaker 1: really until the last one to two years, and all
59:00
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now he owns a ring. And there
59:03
Speaker 1: were comparisons fair or unfair to Trent Dilfer say about
59:07
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five years ago. But I mean, changing
59:10
Speaker 1: a narrative is hard to impossible, not just in the NFL,
59:14
Speaker 1: but really in pro sports all around. That's just kind
59:16
Speaker 1: of the role that we live in here. But yet
59:18
Speaker 1: thirty one wins last two seasons throwing a js at
59:22
Speaker 1: and he's got that target. He made Aj Barner better.
59:25
Speaker 1: But top ten quarterback may be still an issue of
59:29
Speaker 1: debate on a team that won the Super Bowl. So
59:32
Speaker 1: for a Sam Donald repeat season, Hueie calmer concern.
59:36
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm relatively calm, just because I want to. I'm
59:42
Speaker 5: a believer. You kind of buckled me there, Mike when
59:47
Speaker 5: you brought up the the Trent Dilford. Now, I know
59:51
Speaker 5: that you were not saying your thoughts with Trent Diffol.
59:54
Speaker 5: You're saying that that you know, in certain circles maybe
59:57
Speaker 5: that there was a comparison, So you're just citing others.
1:00:00
Speaker 5: So I get that, but but I I think that's
1:00:02
Speaker 5: one of the most absurd notions. And and I remember,
1:00:07
Speaker 5: now I don't have all the spreadsheet in front of me,
1:00:09
Speaker 5: but at the end of last year, I I endeavored
1:00:11
Speaker 5: to uh to just kind of compare, And I remember,
1:00:14
Speaker 5: you know, passing first downs per game I remember looking
1:00:17
Speaker 5: at and and the and the yardage and you know,
1:00:21
Speaker 5: yards per pass and what have you, and uh, uh, there,
1:00:25
Speaker 5: there couldn't be a more absurd comparison than what Trent
1:00:29
Speaker 5: Dilfer was for the two thousand Ravens. They had that
1:00:32
Speaker 5: that great defense, they had Jamal Lewis over two thousand
1:00:35
Speaker 5: yards rushing. Trent Dilf for literally was just a placeholder.
1:00:39
Speaker 5: And I can prove that statistically I don't have in
1:00:42
Speaker 5: front of me. But but if you challenge me, I'll
1:00:45
Speaker 5: knock your socks off with with with an argument on it.
1:00:48
Speaker 2: We don't do that on this show. We do not
1:00:51
Speaker 2: challenge you.
1:00:54
Speaker 5: And I'm I'm saying, there's a big smile on my face.
1:00:58
Speaker 5: We're all good, Mike. You're you're doing your asking me
1:01:00
Speaker 5: a question, because it is true that from time to
1:01:03
Speaker 5: time people said, oh, is he just you know, he's
1:01:05
Speaker 5: just a beneficiary like trying to do for I'm You're
1:01:08
Speaker 5: what you just said is not the first time I
1:01:10
Speaker 5: heard it, So so you're you're you're fair to ask
1:01:13
Speaker 5: me that question. What I'm saying it was absurd, then
1:01:16
Speaker 5: it's absurd now. Uh And and you know, for for example,
1:01:23
Speaker 5: that if there's a stat we you know, yards per
1:01:26
Speaker 5: passe attempt. Okay, this has been around for a year. Okay,
1:01:28
Speaker 5: very simple. You just take the pass attempts yards a
1:01:31
Speaker 5: simple division. Right, then they had, well, let's go net
1:01:35
Speaker 5: yards per past attempt and because we want to include
1:01:39
Speaker 5: the sacks, because that's important. Okay, So then we got
1:01:41
Speaker 5: net yards per past attempt. Well from there they said, whoa,
1:01:45
Speaker 5: that was a that was a good uh step. Let's
1:01:48
Speaker 5: let's go yards per drop back. Now, what is the
1:01:51
Speaker 5: yards per drop back? Yards per dropback? Is is a
1:01:53
Speaker 5: pass attempt a sack or when the official score keyper
1:02:00
Speaker 5: said it was a scramble, that it was a called
1:02:03
Speaker 5: pass play and the quarterback shows to scramble. So if
1:02:07
Speaker 5: if Lamar Jackson on you know, third and seven drops
1:02:10
Speaker 5: back sees a hole, it's man coverage. He he pops
1:02:15
Speaker 5: for eleven yards, gets the first down, he's gonna get that.
1:02:18
Speaker 5: He's gonna get those eleven yards, just like it on
1:02:19
Speaker 5: eleven yard completion for the sake of the offense. Right,
1:02:22
Speaker 5: So when then we say, well, yards yards per dropbacks
1:02:25
Speaker 5: even better than that yards per attemp, which was better
1:02:27
Speaker 5: than yards per ten yards per attempt, well as it
1:02:30
Speaker 5: turns out yards per dropback has an exceedingly high correlation
1:02:35
Speaker 5: to winning. It's it's like seven oh two. I believe
1:02:38
Speaker 5: it's it's slightly over seven hundred. Like just think of
1:02:42
Speaker 5: like a a on base percentage, you know that lives
1:02:48
Speaker 5: between zero and one thousand, and you stat guys and
1:02:51
Speaker 5: math guys are saying, well, it's technically between zero and one,
1:02:54
Speaker 5: because when a when a hitter hits two eighty five,
1:02:56
Speaker 5: he's he's literally he's really.
1:02:58
Speaker 1: Hitting point two eighty five out of one.
1:03:00
Speaker 5: So those those nuances, notwithstanding getting back, you got a
1:03:05
Speaker 5: seven hundred plus correlation of winning on yards per dropback.
1:03:09
Speaker 1: Who was number one in the NFL last year in
1:03:11
Speaker 1: yards per dropback? Oh, Sam Darnold.
1:03:14
Speaker 5: You think Trent Dilfer was number one, But Trent Differ
1:03:17
Speaker 5: was like twenty eighth in yards per yards per dropback,
1:03:21
Speaker 5: So there is no comparison. The guy is delivering, he's
1:03:24
Speaker 5: throwing the ball down the field, he's making the plays.
1:03:26
Speaker 5: And oh, by the way, he had look he had
1:03:28
Speaker 5: a lousy super Bowl. I thought he had a slightly
1:03:32
Speaker 5: below average super Bowl when I watched it on TV
1:03:34
Speaker 5: with my friends and the party and then did a
1:03:36
Speaker 5: postgame show with Dick Vane. Then I watched the tape
1:03:39
Speaker 5: the next morning and I was like, oh, wow, he
1:03:41
Speaker 5: really had a bad Super Bowl, like he missed a
1:03:43
Speaker 5: lot of stuff like whoa, whoa. But it was two
1:03:47
Speaker 5: weeks before that where he earned his ring because when
1:03:51
Speaker 5: in the NFC Championship game, when he had to go
1:03:54
Speaker 5: toe to toe with Matthew Stafford. In the history of
1:03:57
Speaker 5: the NFL, there's close to thirteen hundred playoff games. He
1:04:02
Speaker 5: ha was slinging darts in that game too, Yeah, yeah,
1:04:04
Speaker 5: And in those games, there's only been sixteen quarterbacks who
1:04:12
Speaker 5: have had three hundred and thirty yards and more passing
1:04:15
Speaker 5: three or more touchdown passes in a playoff game and
1:04:17
Speaker 5: no interceptions.
1:04:18
Speaker 1: Got it.
1:04:19
Speaker 5: That's the benchmark, right, So so thirteen hundred plus playoff games,
1:04:24
Speaker 5: only sixteen games like that. Guess what, There's only one
1:04:27
Speaker 5: playoff game in all of the history of the NFL,
1:04:29
Speaker 5: one that had both quarterbacks hit that milestone three point
1:04:34
Speaker 5: thirty three touchdowns, no interception. Only one playoff game. It
1:04:37
Speaker 5: was the NFC Championship game in Luomenfield. It was Matthew
1:04:40
Speaker 5: Stafford was one of the quarterbacks and Sam Donald was
1:04:44
Speaker 5: the other, and Sam Donald had to match that because
1:04:48
Speaker 5: Mike McDonald it was like this kryptonite, like Matthew Stafford
1:04:52
Speaker 5: was Mike McDonald's kryptonite. And they just say they looked
1:04:55
Speaker 5: around and by the way, they didn't run rush for
1:04:58
Speaker 5: a damn. They were two point nine yards per ten
1:05:01
Speaker 5: in that game, so they weren't running, they weren't defending.
1:05:03
Speaker 5: The whole team looked and said, Sam, dude, you got
1:05:08
Speaker 5: to carry us. And you know what, Sam said, I
1:05:11
Speaker 5: got you, and he freaking did it. And uh he
1:05:15
Speaker 5: put that team on his back and he took him
1:05:17
Speaker 5: right down to uh uh to Santa Clara in that
1:05:21
Speaker 5: Super Bowl and and yeah, uh you know he he
1:05:24
Speaker 5: he kind of had a you know it just kind
1:05:27
Speaker 5: of farted his way through that Super Bowl and and
1:05:30
Speaker 5: and that that will never go down as a Picasso performance,
1:05:35
Speaker 5: but what he did to get there earned him all
1:05:38
Speaker 5: of the accolades.
1:05:39
Speaker 1: In my opinion. They sometimes, as they say, a Picasso
1:05:42
Speaker 1: painting won't do it for work of ours. Sometimes it
1:05:44
Speaker 1: is mere graffiti. Beget the sea took care of that
1:05:47
Speaker 1: as far as we're all concerned.
1:05:53
Speaker 3: Now.
1:05:54
Speaker 1: Musical fruits, musical fruit. He really, really, really really appreciate you,
1:06:00
Speaker 1: my man, and looking forward to more here at the
1:06:02
Speaker 1: beginning this next week. Guys, all right, awesome rock and roll.
1:06:04
Speaker 1: Thanks Mike's one and only QB one Hugh Miller joining
1:06:08
Speaker 1: us talkbacks text after.
1:06:09
Speaker 4: This, Hey jess Man, Hey Mike, thanks for all your work.
1:06:26
Speaker 9: As far as the Seahawks go, I think they've just
1:06:29
Speaker 9: changed the landscape of the NFL. I don't know why,
1:06:33
Speaker 9: but I'm not too worried because I think their philosophy
1:06:37
Speaker 9: is just so dangerous and so novel that other teams
1:06:42
Speaker 9: are going to be scrambling to catch up. I think
1:06:44
Speaker 9: the Rams are in a desperation moment trying to make
1:06:48
Speaker 9: sure they keep up. So I'm encouraged.
1:06:51
Speaker 2: Mister Bit and miss McIntyre.
1:06:52
Speaker 10: Chip here bold prediction on July. Whatever it is, it's
1:06:54
Speaker 10: after the fourth doing this while I am technically sober
1:06:57
Speaker 10: so I can maintain credit. Seahawks want a Barnburn nervous
1:07:00
Speaker 10: super Bowl. They're down fourteen in the fourth quarter, comeback
1:07:03
Speaker 10: epic win last year was kind of boring. I can
1:07:05
Speaker 10: admit that this one one for the Ages. Gohawks screw
1:07:09
Speaker 10: the Rams still should have handed it to Marshawn.
1:07:12
Speaker 1: That's great.
1:07:12
Speaker 2: Okay, there was a lot compacted into a little.
1:07:15
Speaker 1: That's a lot to break down for twenty seven seconds.
1:07:17
Speaker 3: But when he was talking about the Super Bowl, I
1:07:20
Speaker 3: don't want people to think that this person is uneducated.
1:07:22
Speaker 3: He was clearly referring to the NFC Championship game against
1:07:26
Speaker 3: the Rams, because the Super Bowl was not an epic comeback.
1:07:29
Speaker 3: They had control of that entire game, the entire time,
1:07:32
Speaker 3: and they did the same against Denver with their first one.
1:07:36
Speaker 2: So I think he's referring to the game against the Rim.
1:07:38
Speaker 1: You find a funny hear that and all of a
1:07:39
Speaker 1: sudden we're talking about the Rams more than the forty
1:07:42
Speaker 1: nine ers.
1:07:43
Speaker 3: Oh, it's so cyclical within this conference. I mean remember
1:07:47
Speaker 3: when he had mister kangle hat with Arizona Like it is.
1:07:52
Speaker 2: The NFC West is cyclical and we got a new
1:07:55
Speaker 2: sheriff in town. Guys, shut up.
1:07:58
Speaker 1: I go back long enough now to remember that the
1:08:00
Speaker 1: that the Seahawks weren't even competing with like the Rams
1:08:03
Speaker 1: and Niners. It was all about the Broncos and everybody
1:08:05
Speaker 1: else are with the with the entire AFC West. Yeah,
1:08:08
Speaker 1: the Cortez Kennedy era.
1:08:10
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a phenomenal Kingdome phenomenal era. I did not
1:08:14
Speaker 3: get to experience the Kingdom though I was not here yet.
1:08:18
Speaker 1: Oh looky here our old buddy Keith checked in from
1:08:20
Speaker 1: the two five three, already four nine to komodage text
1:08:24
Speaker 1: line much respect here, what's your secret peds sleep schedule?
1:08:30
Speaker 1: I respect, my man? Oh A deal with what? That's
1:08:38
Speaker 1: how you pronounced it. I'll give it. I'll give you.
1:08:40
Speaker 2: He has like a thousand.
1:08:42
Speaker 1: The NHL version is Chatan. I'm a man of faith.
1:08:46
Speaker 4: There.
1:08:46
Speaker 1: I don't go there, but there you go. I'll give
1:08:48
Speaker 1: you one hen for you, for you YouTubers, you see this.
1:08:52
Speaker 1: Once upon a time, this top two bottom was filled
1:08:58
Speaker 1: with coffee.
1:08:59
Speaker 2: I believe you.
1:09:00
Speaker 1: It's gone now.
1:09:01
Speaker 2: I'm surprised it isn't.
1:09:02
Speaker 1: Can you tell that I'm a night person. Yeah, it's
1:09:05
Speaker 1: eleven thirty. It's still too early for me.
1:09:09
Speaker 2: It's the nature of your job.
1:09:10
Speaker 1: I mean it just makes sense, hey, I mean by
1:09:13
Speaker 1: game fifty, game fifty five, game sixty of a eighty
1:09:17
Speaker 1: four well, what was eighty two to eighty four NHL season?
1:09:20
Speaker 1: For the schedule, Even at about roughly ten o'clock ten fifteen,
1:09:26
Speaker 1: we're rolling post game. I'm still pound of the coffee. Yeah,
1:09:29
Speaker 1: could do better, maybe, yes, I think, but yeah, I
1:09:33
Speaker 1: had I had Spike, YEP.
1:09:35
Speaker 3: I had some issues with coffee because I was working
1:09:38
Speaker 3: a morning show at one point while also doing Cougar
1:09:42
Speaker 3: games on the weekends, and my whole schedule, I only had,
1:09:47
Speaker 3: you know, like twenty four hours to flip it back,
1:09:50
Speaker 3: and I was just drinking so much coffee that I
1:09:52
Speaker 3: couldn't go to sleep after a game and I was
1:09:54
Speaker 3: having like panic dreams that I was going to miss
1:09:56
Speaker 3: my flight to get back from my show.
1:09:59
Speaker 2: That's just you know what.
1:10:00
Speaker 1: I heard a great story from from your buddy Dan Patrick. Yeah,
1:10:04
Speaker 1: when he was doing Sports Center back in the day,
1:10:06
Speaker 1: and I'm talking like, you know the quote unquote Golden
1:10:09
Speaker 1: era with him, Olderman like all those guys. So they
1:10:14
Speaker 1: worked late and they're not on the air until about
1:10:18
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock midnight maybe roughly.
1:10:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was before they expanded.
1:10:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pounding die cokes, Like Dan Patrick is pounding
1:10:26
Speaker 1: diet cokes back in the newsroom just to stay alert.
1:10:30
Speaker 1: But by the time that he gets home, it's like
1:10:32
Speaker 1: three four in the morning, right, and he can't fall asleep.
1:10:35
Speaker 1: So it's like, where's like, where's the Bruski all of
1:10:38
Speaker 1: a sudden, and it's a whole cyclical thing.
1:10:41
Speaker 3: It absolutely is, And it's very odd when you're in
1:10:44
Speaker 3: that cycle, when like the sun is coming up, when
1:10:47
Speaker 3: you're leaving your job.
1:10:49
Speaker 2: This is not what our circadian rhythm is supposed to.
1:10:52
Speaker 1: Did you ever try the energy drink thing?
1:10:55
Speaker 3: Uh?
1:10:56
Speaker 7: You know what.
1:10:57
Speaker 2: Mike drinks the my husband, but he laid back on that.
1:11:01
Speaker 2: I'm not that big into it.
1:11:03
Speaker 1: Try I tried it back in my twenties, and then
1:11:05
Speaker 1: when I started to kind of feel things, I didn't
1:11:07
Speaker 1: feel as like, Okay, this can't be good. Oh I
1:11:10
Speaker 1: got this can't be good. Put it away.
1:11:12
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's really not. I like to do
1:11:14
Speaker 2: the natural energy.
1:11:16
Speaker 3: You know. If I really feel I feel like I
1:11:18
Speaker 3: need to pick me up, I'll, you know, have tea
1:11:21
Speaker 3: with some honey, even though that's supposed to be relaxing.
1:11:23
Speaker 2: But honey is natural sugar. But cold ice, cold water
1:11:28
Speaker 2: is literally the best thing you can do. Yeah, really, yeah,
1:11:31
Speaker 2: it is the best thing you can do.
1:11:33
Speaker 1: Put a glass under night stand, first thing you do
1:11:35
Speaker 1: when you wake up. Pound that thing.
1:11:37
Speaker 3: Yep. You know, you wash a lot of stuff out
1:11:40
Speaker 3: and It really does help. And in the middle of
1:11:42
Speaker 3: the day, if you're feeling that like slump, it helps me.
1:11:45
Speaker 3: At least this is a correction coming in. It was
1:11:50
Speaker 3: a I'm sorry correction on the prediction from our texter.
1:11:54
Speaker 3: I can replay it.
1:11:55
Speaker 2: But it looks like the correction was.
1:11:57
Speaker 3: It looks like he was pre addicting this year's Super Bowl,
1:12:02
Speaker 3: not discussing, not implying that the NFC Championship game was
1:12:07
Speaker 3: a super Bowl here or here.
1:12:08
Speaker 10: Let's listen, mister Bent and miss McIntyre chip here bol
1:12:11
Speaker 10: prediction on July. Whatever it is is after the fourth
1:12:13
Speaker 10: doing this while I am technically sober, so I can
1:12:15
Speaker 10: maintain credit. Seahawks went a barn burner of a super Bowl.
1:12:18
Speaker 10: They're down fourteen in the fourth quarter, comeback epic win
1:12:22
Speaker 10: last year was kind of boring. I can admit that
1:12:24
Speaker 10: this one one for the Ages. Gohawks screw the Rams.
1:12:27
Speaker 10: Still should have handed it to Marshawn.
1:12:29
Speaker 2: That's correct, Thank you, text line.
1:12:31
Speaker 1: You win it. You went in La Thisten nothing better
1:12:34
Speaker 1: because you did in Santa Clara last year.
1:12:36
Speaker 3: At least he just bounced back a couple times on that.
1:12:39
Speaker 3: You're right, they used to do a Super Bowl NFC West.
1:12:43
Speaker 1: Tour serious and guess where and guess where it's going next.
1:12:48
Speaker 1: Then it's got to be here. Yeah, we got it's
1:12:51
Speaker 1: been to Arizona.
1:12:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's just like a given.
1:12:56
Speaker 1: Let's just forget about in the in the Arizona, I'm
1:13:01
Speaker 1: waving the wand men in black style two five three Mike, Sorry,
1:13:06
Speaker 1: but the Mariners are drinking because they're playing scrub teams
1:13:10
Speaker 1: to be drinking the winning water that from the two
1:13:11
Speaker 1: five three, Okay, listen, I said this earlier.
1:13:16
Speaker 2: They should win.
1:13:17
Speaker 1: I said this before. They have been punishing the Giants
1:13:21
Speaker 1: so far, they punish the Reds. There's two more games
1:13:24
Speaker 1: to go. They're doing what we expected them to do.
1:13:30
Speaker 1: This at least gives us an indication they won the
1:13:34
Speaker 1: Giant Series. If they win tonight, they win the Red Series.
1:13:38
Speaker 1: But it gives us the indication that they are serious
1:13:42
Speaker 1: about this playoff race. And is that not a lot
1:13:46
Speaker 1: different from where we were thinking, feeling and wondering literally
1:13:51
Speaker 1: just about roughly four days ago, because this whole thing
1:13:55
Speaker 1: hit rock bottom, not just out for Friday, but say
1:13:58
Speaker 1: by the end of the fifth inning on Saturday, where
1:14:02
Speaker 1: then Cole Young if not for that home run, they're
1:14:05
Speaker 1: doa They lose a series to one of the worst
1:14:08
Speaker 1: teams in baseball who was led by right right now,
1:14:12
Speaker 1: by a manager who has no experience except for the
1:14:15
Speaker 1: college level, then what do you expect going into the
1:14:19
Speaker 1: Red Series? If this works. If this doesn't work out,
1:14:23
Speaker 1: then you got to go on the road to face
1:14:24
Speaker 1: a team that is fighting tooth and nail in what
1:14:27
Speaker 1: has just been a tire fire American League West. So
1:14:31
Speaker 1: they're yes, they are doing what they should be doing here.
1:14:35
Speaker 3: I mean I heard her actually say this this morning.
1:14:39
Speaker 3: But it's like, oh, Okay, they finally realized it's early
1:14:42
Speaker 3: because there's still the second half. You know, we're into
1:14:45
Speaker 3: the second half now, But it's not too late. I'm
1:14:49
Speaker 3: gonna I'm not gonna say it's early, but I'm gonna
1:14:51
Speaker 3: say it's not too late. And they're doing the things
1:14:52
Speaker 3: that we wanted to see them do. And after last
1:14:55
Speaker 3: night's game, I just don't know what we have to
1:14:57
Speaker 3: complain about, except some people take issue with them.
1:15:00
Speaker 2: George Kirby coming out after six.
1:15:02
Speaker 1: Four two five saying don canzone nine eighty oh ps
1:15:05
Speaker 1: against left e's infield was going to play and that
1:15:07
Speaker 1: typically leads to one run. Francona wanted to try for
1:15:11
Speaker 1: a double play because there was no difference being down
1:15:13
Speaker 1: three rip versus seven rip. Not disrespecting anyone, Cal is
1:15:17
Speaker 1: only you know, you know that kind of talk is
1:15:20
Speaker 1: only about himself, not versus the team. He's just being
1:15:23
Speaker 1: sensitive whatever. I mean, Hey, listen, you want to go
1:15:27
Speaker 1: lefty on lefty. That's what usually the splits say. And
1:15:30
Speaker 1: I get it. There are some nuances here with the numbers,
1:15:33
Speaker 1: but dom canzone, I mean, for really, until that moment
1:15:38
Speaker 1: last night is not in cal Rawley territory. And do
1:15:41
Speaker 1: you really want to turn around someone who can still
1:15:43
Speaker 1: punish a baseball from the right side. Well, you know what,
1:15:47
Speaker 1: you played the game, you won the prize. The Reds
1:15:50
Speaker 1: played the game, they won the prize. Stupid prizes here
1:15:57
Speaker 1: and cal Rawley and basically went out and did the
1:16:01
Speaker 1: whole MJ thing after just one pitch. It took just
1:16:06
Speaker 1: one pitch for him to say, don't disrespect me. Cal
1:16:12
Speaker 1: Rawley did that seven to nothing. Yet it's against the
1:16:14
Speaker 1: low lee Reds. But again it's once again a step
1:16:17
Speaker 1: in the right direction of where this team should be.
1:16:20
Speaker 1: Ahead of that thing with execution and with also energy,
1:16:23
Speaker 1: especially from their leader. All Right, Mayor mample Valley is
1:16:26
Speaker 1: finally back in. I believe he's kind of lurking right
1:16:29
Speaker 1: around the corner. Yeah, I think I see him, he
1:16:31
Speaker 1: joins his next I kind of feel like that that
1:17:02
Speaker 1: talk we had back for the Takomadash text line of energy,
1:17:05
Speaker 1: drinks and coffee didn't last long enough. I think we're
1:17:08
Speaker 1: gonna like a little deep, deep deep dive on you
1:17:11
Speaker 1: know that for about fifteen twenty minutes. It's just I
1:17:13
Speaker 1: think because of the line of work of work that
1:17:14
Speaker 1: we're in and we're all working at late hours early
1:17:18
Speaker 1: in the morning. I'm not sure if I had a
1:17:22
Speaker 1: chance to pose this question to Ian Forness, because I
1:17:24
Speaker 1: think I last saw him back at the Mayor Maple
1:17:26
Speaker 1: Valley Open. Seems like it was yesterday. I know, it doesn't.
1:17:31
Speaker 1: You've been away long enough.
1:17:32
Speaker 8: No, it's not even that I wish I haven't been
1:17:34
Speaker 8: a long I didn't go away long enough, but no,
1:17:37
Speaker 8: it was I appreciate you coming out though.
1:17:38
Speaker 1: You have funny oh blast, good second year in a row,
1:17:41
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of building up a trend now. Yeah,
1:17:44
Speaker 1: I felt so bad because because how bad you got
1:17:48
Speaker 1: I was worse yesterday I played at the golf tournament
1:17:50
Speaker 1: Milk Creek, and so you weren't the problem. I don't
1:17:53
Speaker 1: think from my was it Al. I'm just kidding. I
1:17:58
Speaker 1: love it. I'm glad Al came out. I'm not got
1:18:00
Speaker 1: thrown under the bus.
1:18:00
Speaker 3: I know.
1:18:01
Speaker 8: I'm glad Al came out too. It's fun to have
1:18:02
Speaker 8: him out there, especially with the cause, one of the
1:18:04
Speaker 8: causes being diabetes something his heart too, so it's good having.
1:18:07
Speaker 1: You body also raised once again Helenski's hope.
1:18:10
Speaker 8: I was a strong I'm glad I made the call
1:18:14
Speaker 8: to have your foursome the two two man teams and
1:18:18
Speaker 8: just take the lower of the two scores because it
1:18:20
Speaker 8: saved probably Georgetown a lot.
1:18:26
Speaker 1: At least brought brought brought about me back next year,
1:18:28
Speaker 1: hopefully thinks off bring you back next year.
1:18:30
Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll probably, you know, we'll see if we can
1:18:32
Speaker 8: reunite you with with with your old partner anders Uh
1:18:35
Speaker 8: andrest his World Cup. But Jeff, I'm playing with with
1:18:38
Speaker 8: Keith and his buddy.
1:18:39
Speaker 1: Oh he was great. Keifer was dialed in man. I mean,
1:18:41
Speaker 1: I wish I was that limber and that young as
1:18:44
Speaker 1: well too, but he was. He was striping him. Yeah.
1:18:47
Speaker 8: Oh, and he tells me that's a different thing like it, Yeah, isn't.
1:18:51
Speaker 8: He had no problem to tell me about it because
1:18:53
Speaker 8: when I when I saw him. For those who don't know,
1:18:56
Speaker 8: what we do is is the guys whoever uh equals
1:19:00
Speaker 8: or beats the team, the KJR team or the Mark team,
1:19:05
Speaker 8: which was in this case Benton and al or Keefer
1:19:08
Speaker 8: my son and his buddy Cody, whoever, if you equal
1:19:12
Speaker 8: or beat them, then you get a gift card to
1:19:13
Speaker 8: Georgetown Browly, no matter where you finish the tournament, you
1:19:16
Speaker 8: get that. And when I saw you guys on fourteen,
1:19:23
Speaker 8: you were both both I think you guys are two
1:19:26
Speaker 8: over at that point and he was one over. Now,
1:19:28
Speaker 8: the scores were hard that day, like there were not
1:19:30
Speaker 8: low scores, like the course was playing. It's also like
1:19:32
Speaker 8: a two man so you are in a group of four,
1:19:35
Speaker 8: but you're playing a two man SCRAMBN scramble. Yeah, it's
1:19:37
Speaker 8: not four man, No, it's you get two shots, and
1:19:39
Speaker 8: so it's a different deal. And I saw you guys,
1:19:41
Speaker 8: and you were both on the gold tees Progressive Scramble,
1:19:44
Speaker 8: which means you were the forward tees. That's never a
1:19:46
Speaker 8: good sign. But I can tell you that most of
1:19:48
Speaker 8: the field spent time on the gold tees, including guys
1:19:50
Speaker 8: I know that are like single digit handicaps, Like it
1:19:52
Speaker 8: was hard for us. Also, like we bogeyed the first hole,
1:19:56
Speaker 8: so now you'll bump all the way up.
1:19:58
Speaker 1: And we had no birdies all day, so you stay
1:20:00
Speaker 1: on the goal.
1:20:00
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:20:01
Speaker 8: Uh so he par par par bogey par part et cetera. Yeah,
1:20:05
Speaker 8: and so big fella when I see him and you guys,
1:20:08
Speaker 8: you're on the goals. And I had to give him
1:20:09
Speaker 8: a little hard time. Oh hey, fella, And then he
1:20:12
Speaker 8: just pumped that drive and so I go, well, I'm
1:20:17
Speaker 8: just text me when you get a bogie.
1:20:18
Speaker 1: Just like Cal Rowley and Michael Jordan and I took
1:20:21
Speaker 1: that person. I go, just text me when you get
1:20:23
Speaker 1: the bogie.
1:20:23
Speaker 8: And about ten minutes later, I get this text and
1:20:26
Speaker 8: goes I can't say what most of the text said,
1:20:29
Speaker 8: but then the last word was eagle, and I'm like, oh,
1:20:31
Speaker 8: you're off and running now, fella.
1:20:32
Speaker 1: Okay, And he was fired up too, because I took
1:20:35
Speaker 1: some fun video the entire day but didn't get my
1:20:38
Speaker 1: eagle video.
1:20:41
Speaker 6: Sorry.
1:20:42
Speaker 8: Well, I'm glad you guys had fun playing together. It
1:20:43
Speaker 8: was a great cause. It's fun to have to come
1:20:45
Speaker 8: out there. It's it's great to have Jeffs out there
1:20:48
Speaker 8: with uh with with with uh Ryley Hilensky and and
1:20:53
Speaker 8: uh Tyler's younger brother and cruising around. And you know,
1:20:56
Speaker 8: we next week I'll do a ton of thank yous
1:20:58
Speaker 8: to all the people that support it, all the great
1:20:59
Speaker 8: companies and teams I've mentioned before. I mean, Kevin Martinez
1:21:04
Speaker 8: and the Mariners are phenomenal. I appreciate them.
1:21:06
Speaker 1: Great colobret it Man with the whole Raffle Row those
1:21:09
Speaker 1: guys are great.
1:21:09
Speaker 8: Todd Lwicki and the crack And are phenomenal, and Chuck
1:21:12
Speaker 8: Arnold the Seahawks are great to me, So uh and
1:21:15
Speaker 8: I say great to me. He was great to the
1:21:16
Speaker 8: tournament and supporting those causes. So it was fun to
1:21:18
Speaker 8: have you guys out there. And hopefully Al had a
1:21:20
Speaker 8: good time as well.
1:21:21
Speaker 1: He had a great time. Do we did? Did you
1:21:23
Speaker 1: get back to yesterday at any point of the kicker,
1:21:28
Speaker 1: the grand finale, the crescendo of the whole night with
1:21:30
Speaker 1: a raffle with the Keefer and what he took away?
1:21:34
Speaker 1: Oh well it was his girlfriend. So here we go
1:21:37
Speaker 1: here we go.
1:21:37
Speaker 8: There was yeah there's I know people were like looking,
1:21:39
Speaker 8: but it was his girlfriend and yeah, she got the
1:21:42
Speaker 8: Monday night football tickets.
1:21:43
Speaker 1: No, not just tickets, also club level, club level and
1:21:47
Speaker 1: pregame and pregame field passes. Also.
1:21:50
Speaker 8: Yeah, I wish he wouldn't have celebrated like he did
1:21:52
Speaker 8: because that looked a little sketchy.
1:21:55
Speaker 1: It's like, no, no, I mean you you saw you
1:21:57
Speaker 1: saw me pulling the tickets out. Yeah, I did. You
1:21:59
Speaker 1: went away with something I put in for a few things,
1:22:02
Speaker 1: and I came away with Yellowstone cocktails.
1:22:04
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, like a whole six pack, like those are
1:22:06
Speaker 8: not cheap. No, actually it actually endorses oos and I
1:22:09
Speaker 8: guess they're pretty good. So yeah, there's a gold Rush,
1:22:13
Speaker 8: Like I got two bottles of gold Rush. There's two
1:22:15
Speaker 8: bottles of Old Fashion, never turned down in Old Fashion,
1:22:17
Speaker 8: by the way.
1:22:17
Speaker 1: And espresso we we have. They're they're they're they're all great.
1:22:21
Speaker 8: If you notice this is interesting world that most of
1:22:25
Speaker 8: the stuff had something to do with either a sports
1:22:28
Speaker 8: franchise or alcohol. I guess those are my relationships in
1:22:33
Speaker 8: this world. My relationship though big stanks of Chambers Bay Distillery.
1:22:38
Speaker 1: We go down the road of all these guys, yellow
1:22:41
Speaker 1: Stone Cocktails, Cocktail.
1:22:43
Speaker 8: We had a couple of wineries there, Glen Hawk and
1:22:45
Speaker 8: a couple others, and yeah, so it was but it
1:22:48
Speaker 8: was a great time. Columby distributing. Those guys do a
1:22:49
Speaker 8: great job. But it's always a fun event. And the
1:22:52
Speaker 8: next thing is August twenty first. We have the fact
1:22:54
Speaker 8: of God and now I just look down to today's
1:22:56
Speaker 8: July twenty first, one month from to day, and I
1:22:58
Speaker 8: can't wait to go right back in and bring back
1:23:00
Speaker 8: a k Mayor IPA comes out on August twenty first,
1:23:03
Speaker 8: So yeah here and that goes fast. It goes faster
1:23:06
Speaker 8: our seven or eight days.
1:23:07
Speaker 1: So youre's day in the week that you're back in
1:23:08
Speaker 1: now Seahawks training camp is so so close.
1:23:11
Speaker 5: What you got.
1:23:11
Speaker 8: We're gonna check Corbyn Smith. We're visiting with him every
1:23:14
Speaker 8: day this week at twelve twenty he's going to join
1:23:15
Speaker 8: us coming up at twelve twenty. Today, we'll talk about
1:23:17
Speaker 8: even Worri and then we'll talk We tease yesterday offensive
1:23:19
Speaker 8: line conversation heading into camp. Maybe we'll less questions with
1:23:24
Speaker 8: that than we've had in the past with the offensive line,
1:23:26
Speaker 8: which is just a jes you've been here in a
1:23:28
Speaker 8: zillion years. I mean, when have we not had offensive
1:23:29
Speaker 8: line questions? It's this feels like fewer than most years
1:23:32
Speaker 8: football in Yeah. And then if you're not talking about
1:23:35
Speaker 8: in the running back conversation, Yeah, we got all those,
1:23:38
Speaker 8: So Corbin at twelve twenty, Joe she and all Things
1:23:41
Speaker 8: Baseball one twenty, and then John Lund if.
1:23:43
Speaker 1: He answers the phone at two o'clock, all right, ends
1:23:45
Speaker 1: up next. Greg Bell's back in tomorrow. I'm Mike with Justinman.
1:23:48
Speaker 1: Big thanks, folks, See up