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Episode 27 The Draft Returns · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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  Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Leaf Reflected, Leaf Demanded, and the
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  Leaf Downloaded Wrestling Podcast bc W. This could be a long podcast, so
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  strapping and shut up and don't be a little bit about it. This is
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  a masters. This year's draft will truly change the game. Ladies and gentlemen,
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  boys and girls, children of all ages, Welcome to another episode of
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  pc W. I am your host, Wayne known as Semi dry Chicken,
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  and I am never alone. Let's bring in the co host Trey. Welcome
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  back, Buddy, you you would it do? Pc W crew. Let's
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  go all right, if you were if you were a general manager, would
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  you be wearing the SmackDown, the Raw or an n X T shirt for
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  this draft? And if you were the general manager. For me, it's
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  probably the Leo in me, but I would probably be wearing a Raw shirt
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  given it that's the flagship, and the Leo in me kind of has that
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  alpha mento reality and be wanted and would always want to be associated with,
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  you know, the top tier shit. So I probably I would probably have
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  a Raw shirt on and that would leave the Fox SmackDown money too. Doyle,
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  welcome back. Yeah, sorry, yeah, it's me it's me.
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  It's a dy l e who can't use the mouse apparently. Hey man,
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  you're sticking me with Fox. Give me ec W man, ec do you
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  know what, I'll allow it because the ec W was also a big part
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  of the draft for such a long time. Um, I thinks like three
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  four years n XT ECW was part of the draft. Um, Fox ain't
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  got no money. They just lost that big lawsuit. Yeah, uh yeah.
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  Tonight it's a little bit of a special episode. We're not gonna be
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  covering any pay per views coming up yet just yet. We're not gonna be
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  covering any ruthless regression paper views. We're gonna be talking about the draft.
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  Um. It's very unique because the draft has been around since two thousand and
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  two, and they kind of started the draft. Uh well, the brands
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  split, the initial brands. What they started when when they were absorbing uh
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  WCWN ECW wrestlers, and then the rosters just got so saturated, just so
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  much, they just had to do the initial brand split. So that means,
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  like you know, if if you had triple a trip Lates would be
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  on one show and one show exclusive ray Masterio would be on one show,
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  one show, exclusive. So if you wanted to see the Undertaker, you
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  wanted to see Batista, Eddie Guerrero. Uh, you want to see guys
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  like that, you got to turn it in a SmackDown, but you want
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  to see Randy Orton, Rick Flair, Trip Late Seawan, Michael Shelton,
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  Benjamin and that. You go to Raw, you know, and then there
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  was ECW uh where you could see Bobby Lashley, see them pun Uh,
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  Big Daddy v Zombie, the Zombie, Ezekiel Jackson. Uh. I'm just
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  like naming some ECW guys on top of my head, the Sandman s Jackson.
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  Yeah, I know I was digging deep there. Uh. But yeah.
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  So so the first half of the two thousand and two draft was uh.
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  They they made it into like a two hour event on TV. It
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  was on their flagship show overall. Uh and then sometimes the second half of
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  be conducted over the internet. Back then, now they kind of poke it
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  up into this, do part of it on Raw and then we'll do it
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  on SmackDown. We've seen in the past where they would do it on Raw
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  SmackDown and then talking smack like you would find out, you know, a
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  day or two later, who else got drafted. I mean, how terrible
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  that's got to be. If you're not even mentioned on the main show,
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  you're not a mean top pick. And you know if you get picked last
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  or something and you find out over Twitter, you know, you you find
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  out over just you're just thrown into a list of other guys who would just
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  got drafted, like the last picks, Like you know what, we don't
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  have time to put them all on TV. We're just gonna throw out a
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  fucking list. You know. There was very unique types of ways they did
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  the draft over the years, if everybody remembers, there was ones where they
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  would have like it looked like a bingo spinning a basket that they would have
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  different balls in there and they would have wrestler names, and that's how they
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  did the draft. And I always I never knew if it was like legit
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  or it was planned out, because they did it pretty well back in the
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  day. Um I think Reese up to recently they had one where like the
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  SmackDown were like they had like all these random people from Fox like in a
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  room picking out like they have all this paperwork laying out on the desk and
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  they're picking out wrestlers and they have the CGI animated, uh Fox robot there.
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  Do you guys remember that terrible draft method they had a few years ago.
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  It's really remember it, but I did put it in my notes.
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  It would have been fun if they had like Kae Usa and Fox executives,
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  right, they kind of were doing that. Who's gonna who's running this draft
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  is my number one question because we don't have general managers. Uh, last
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  time they had Adam Pearce and Sonya Deville right then they just announced the expert
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  who's making them? Like, I feel like there's a lot of missed opportunity
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  to make that storyline somehow. And also beginning back to how they select the
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  picks that there was for a while they were doing matches to see who would
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  get a draft pick. Yeah, like Raw would if a wrestler from Raw
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  would win, then they would get the first draft pick or because I've seen
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  that in the past. Yeah, but the brands are so deluded at this
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  point. Who the hell even knows? And I guess we'll get into it,
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  but who the hell even knows who's on Raw versus who's on SmackDown.
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  You got a lot of people on both, so yeah, I mean I
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  guess this is kind of a reset, which is fine, but it's just
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  so murky. Yeah, I honestly it is to a certain extent, But
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  I mean people who are who do kind of move around one is kind of
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  like depending on how the story is is and they're and what's called for with
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  whatever storyline, And a lot of times some people who do appear on other
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  shows, it's usually like maybe one week they'll they'll show up. The only
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  ones who ever really have like true from what I've seen, that have true
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  fluidity are like the Bloodline because they're you know, the USOS were Raw and
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  SmackDown Tag champion, so obviously they had fluidity, and Roman Reigns being the
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  w W champion had undisputed, he had fluidity, and so obviously anybody else
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  associated with him, and then whoever was feuding with them would obviously get a
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  level of fluidity as well to further the feud. Outside of that, you
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  really only saw occasionally somebody would pop up on another you know, a SmackDown
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  person would pop up on Raw again as needed, And hopefully with this draft,
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  hopefully they do kind of focus in on trying to solidify people being on
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  one brand or one show and staying there because, like you said, with
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  it being so murky and fluid, it kind of mean it makes a draft
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  pointless if you're not going to stick to it. You know, I agree,
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  And I want to see more difference between the shows because right now they
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  both looked the same. Remember back in the day, Uh SmackDown had a
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  completely different set than Raw, completely different look, different color scheme. Now
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  it's hard to tell which is which. Um So I would like them to
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  get back to a just completely different set for one of them, if not
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  both of them. Yeah, you know, it did, like I think,
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  like twenty twenty twenty twenty one, it did get murky. That's when
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  I started get murky, where Vince came out and announced the wild card.
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  You know, we're like that we could have like three or four wrestlers from
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  either show show up on this show, and he was like, I'm a
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  genius, and uh it really it never worked because it felt like every week
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  people were crossing over. Um I did like when wrestlers were exclusive to one
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  show and they kept it that way because when you would see big pay per
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  views like the Royal Rumble Survivor series. Well, first of all, Survivor
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  Series meant a hell of a lot more. There was more. It felt
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  like there was something at stake. There were bragging rights, right, but
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  now it's there's nothing's really at stake. That's really not Ral versus SmackDown anymore
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  when it comes to the Survivor Series. And it was always exciting to see
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  these wrestlers from different brands like collide at the Rumble or certain pay per views,
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  they would cross pass like backstage promos, like there was a time where
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  JBL had his own cabinet and he was the w W champion and then on
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  Rawl you had Triple H with Evolution as the world champion, and like those
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  two guys were kind of running the company at the time with the titles with
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  their run. But they never crossed passed, neither of their heels stables.
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  And I remember like maybe it was the Rumble, maybe a Survivor Series,
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  a pay per view, SummerSlam, maybe they did. Like there was a
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  promo and they did come face to face, and I was like, ooh,
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  teasing something here, teasing something here, Like we never see these two
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  big factions, you know, come face face to heal factions. Uh.
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  I would just get excited seeing people from different brands like teasing matches. Uh,
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  you know, that's that's Unfortunately, that's how we got brock Lessen and
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  Goldberg the first initial match. They were separated for so long, and you
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  know, as a I don't know, I was two thousand and four,
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  I'm probably like seventeen sixteen, seventeen, So I got excited of the idea
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  at the time of somebody like brock Lessner and Goldberg versing each other because I'm
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  like, these two guys are monsters and they're just never crossed. Pass.
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  We all did. We all did at the time at the time. Yeah,
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  four, You never saw SmackDown and Raw people with each other. Yeah,
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  very rarely. You know, they even had different pay per views,
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  you know what I mean, Like, are we gonna go back to I
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  liked when they did put both brands together just for the pay per views for
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  a while. It was nice having the like SmackDown would have their own pay
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  per view, but then so would Raw. It would give like wrestlers time
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  off, I guess it would. It would let stories build a little bit
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  longer in depth with some of these storylines. But yeah, that the whole
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  idea. How they're going to do it. Yeah, that was the original
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  intent when they did try to split the pay per views with one being a
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  raw pay per view the other one being a SmackDown, and then they would
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  only come together for at the time, I believe was the Big Four,
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  the Rumble, WrestleMania, Summer Slamming Survivor series were the only times that they
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  came together, And yeah, that was the intent. Original intent back then.
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  It was like, we can have longer stories, more long form storytelling,
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  because you know, stuff would only culminate every other month and things could
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  develop more. But ultimately it never really panned out as well as they thought
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  because it left whatever pay per view was, whatever brand was off that month
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  or didn't have their pay per view, we're kind of just left milling about
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  trying to, yeah, draw out longer storylines, but the people's focus would
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  just shift to whichever brand had the pay per view that month and the other
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  one whenever that week was it was like, well, you know, the
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  big pay per views happening over here, so y'all just kind of dragging your
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  feet. So it was one of those concepts that sounded good on paper,
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  but the execution behind it never really quite lived up to it. So yeah,
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  I don't know how. I don't know if I'm necessarily in favor of
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  them going back to split branded pay per views. I don't. I don't
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  think they can really execute that as well. I do agree that roster I
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  do want rosters kind of staying separate, like I said before, that and
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  remaining more isolated, having less crossover. H good. So one of the
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  things you really lose is and one of the great things about like the Bloodline
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  storyline in particular, is to carry over from Raw to SmackDown to Raw,
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  you know what I mean, Like something happens, Oh, I now I
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  gotta watch SmackDown. Let's see what happen. But now I gotta watch Raw
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  to see. Whereas when you do this kind of brand split in you don't
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  you kind of lose that. I mean, you know, the hard cares
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  are gonna watch it both shows regardless, right, But you know, I
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  feel like you lose some continuity. But you're not constantly carrying things over and
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  other things. You know, there's kind of I mean, it is,
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  it's pluses and minuses, yeah, right, and yeah, and with you
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  can't have that one true dominant faction like a bloodline if you keep everything truly
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  separate, Like Evolution back in the day was dominant, but they dominated raw
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  only they had no you know, no impact on SmackDown. Whereas blood Line
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  they are at the top of the entire company. They dominate everything. You
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  know, if you keep them completely separate with zero crossover, you know,
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  there's no room for a faction like the blood lines ever developed. So that
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  is one benefit to having some crossover, but again it needs to be limited
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  only to those who are at the top. In my opinion, it's funny
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  you mentioned a dominant faction because they're kind of the genesis of this idea goes
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  back to WCW. They were going to do this with the nWo is going
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  to have their own show, which would have been Nitro, and then what
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  was that what was their second tund was gonna be the WWWCW show. I
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  think there was an episode of Nitro where like the nWo took over and like
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  it was black and white, and like, I think that was like the
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  genesis of it. But then obviously never pulled the trigger. M Yeah.
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  And also, um, a big concern going into this draft is titles.
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  Um. We you know, back in two thousand and four or five,
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  maybe maybe maybe it was no, maybe it's two. When they when SmackDown
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  had brock Lessner exclusively and he was the undispeeded champion, that left role without
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  a title. That's when they introduced the World Heavyweight Title and handed it to
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  triple As because he was the number one contender. Now Roman Reigns has both
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  of those titles, so a lot is up in the air, like what
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  are they going to do with against split the titles. There's been a lot
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  of rumors going around about new titles coming out. Um, where are the
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  tag team champions going to go? Now that they have both titles. I
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  mean, we could see Kevin Owens and Sam maysann on both shows that that
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  would be great, But you know, after a while, you're gonna you're
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  gonna have to take a set of those titles off of these guys. You
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  know, Intercontinental title and United States Title always separated. It was rare if
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  they were on the same show. Was for a very short time, but
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  they were always separated. And same with the women's and you know, now
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  we got the women's tag team. Don't know what we're gonna do about that
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  either, Well, you got Ko's a raw talent, Sammy's SmackDown talent,
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  you got the the SmackDown Women's Champion. Re Ripley is a raw talent,
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  So there is definitely some m hm yeah, yeah, I mean, I
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  think and see when it comes to that draft. That's why some of these
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  things are kind of inevitable. Like you can almost as far as like you
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  know, trying to predict what's gonna happen, you can almost guarantee rear Ripley's
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  going to get drafted to SmackDown because she's the SmackDown Woman's Championship, and it
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  doesn't have doesn't make any sense to have her as a raw talent and being
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  the SmackDown Woman's Champion, And it doesn't make much sense to have her floating
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  either just to try to keep her, you know, associated with the Judgment
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  Day. Doesn't make sense to have Judgment Day jumping between both brands just because
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  one member in it is a you know, it's a smack it's the SmackDown
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  Woman's Champion, so that takes away some of them. And he never see
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  Bianca on SmackDown, right because she's the Raw champion and as such, she
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  remains there, so it takes some of the mystique out of some of this
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  stuff. Like there are some things that are pretty obvious that we know we're
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  gonna happen like that. But as far as other things, like personally,
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  I'm still in favor of having a single champion at the top. I like
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  it said, Like we know, back in the day they had the split
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  champions with the World Headweight Champion on Raw, w W Champion on SmackDown.
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  I kind of preferred more as just one champion and that person has the right
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  to float back and forth to you know, to to feud with whoever at
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  any time. That way, the entire company still has one thing to push
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  for. Because as the thing about the about back in the day when they
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  did have the two titles split, they kind of struggled sometimes to keep both
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  titles being looked at as equal as equally you know important. There were sometimes
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  where the World Heavyweight Championship was very much being treated as the bigger title because
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  it was on Raw and the ww Championship was treated as a lesser title and
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  vice versa. At times, and even even recently with before they unified them
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  under Roman reigns, there were sometimes where the WW Championship was more important than
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  the Universal Championship, or sometimes the Universal Championship was being treated as the bigger
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  title than the WWE Championship, just depending on who held which belt at the
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  time, and that part I don't like, but I think it's better if
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  you just have a single champion. This is the person who's at the top,
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  and everybody's gunning for that person, and you know, whoever they may
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  be, whoever whatever brand, the person that they're feuding with happens to be
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  on them at the moment, that can be the brand that they focus on
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  and going back and forth the same And I think the same thing for this
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  for the tag team titles. Honestly, I think I'm good with just having
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  a single tag team championship, again defended on both brands, rather than having
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  a separate Raw and SmackDown. Yeah. I mean, the whole point of
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  the World's Champions that they're the best, right yeah, right off the bat,
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  two world champions doesn't make it help of a lot of sense. Now
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  you want to look at boxing, of course they have multiple championships and weight
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  classes or whatever. But part of the reason because boxing is such a fucking
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  joke wrapped in a mess, you know, And so I think like doing
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  that it is now anyone like that back in the day, surely, But
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  and it's just that boxing doesn't have a single governing body. It's it's all
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  it makes box you look stupid when you when you have three different guys with
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  the middleweight champion, you know what I mean? Like, um, And
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  so I think, yeah, I definitely agree with you Dre that, um,
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  we should we should have one title if it could float or whatever,
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  and that would even continue to elevate the importance of um, the IC and
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  US belts. Right now, let's not forget like it has been times in
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  the past that two champions have switched brands. Now they've done it in two
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  thousand and twenty one where they had Becky and Charlotte, both champions switched brands,
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  but they traded titles. And we've also seen it with the tag titles
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  done as well. I think it was the Street Prophets and the USOS maybe
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  I think had to swap titles at one point. I mean that was easy,
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  you know, it's common sense to swaps. Yeah. Um, but
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  we're also a lot of people, you know, may forget that tag teams
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  and stables are not off limits. We've seen them draft entire stables, entire
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  tag teams, or break them up. For me, I remember the biggest
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  breakup for a tag team that was shocking was the Dudley Boys. When the
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  Dudley Boys were separated, I was like, holy shit, Like I don't
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  think I've never seen these guys do single runs before. The Hardies were broken
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  up before. We've seen recently that the still together, but on different shows.
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  The New Day was broken up, Miss and Morrison were separated. Just
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  tag teams in general. But it's also a good thing because it could raise
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  the the you know, the stock value of that one of those tag team
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  players. You know, somebody out of that is going to elevate. Maybe
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  not both, but it does give a chance for somebody to elevate. And
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  like you, I have fears that it could happen to the street Profits.
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  You know, there's always rumors. People always like, oh, they should
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  split up the street Profits. They should, they should do it when they
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  do the trade. That's probably the most fair way to do it, so
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  that nobody turns on each other. Um. But you know, like I
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  just thought it was weird, like with the New Day, like why not
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  take the whole team instead, It's like, no, we just want Koffee
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  and Xavier Woods, And I was just like, that's weird. Why would
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  you not want all three, especially considering you could pick the three of them
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  as one draft pick um, which I always thought that was weird too,
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  that that teams like that would be one whole pick, that they wouldn't be
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  individuals. I always thought it was that way. Yeah, I know,
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  just wrestling just sometimes just doesn't make fucking sense exactly pro wrestling logic. They're
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  just gonna do whatever they're going to exactly fake the choices and then you know,
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  trust us, we got a plan for We're going somewhere with it.
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  Don't think about it too hard. So you know what, before like we
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  get into this because it might be brought up some of these that I'm gonna
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  I'm gonna bring up here, but I got three good trivia questions for you
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  guys, and you know what, you guys can do them together, because
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  because I know one of these is pretty might might take both of you guys,
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  So all right. In two thousand and four, Triple H was drafted
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  to SmackDown, but then traded back to Raw for which four superstars he was
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  traded for? Four superstars? Can you guys guess which four superstars he was
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  traded for? I remember that, but I have no clue. I know
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  that's the idea. I'll say, like, saying four kind of makes you
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  think it was like a faction click that was, but because then it would
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  make any sense for them from the trade just for four randos. I can't
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  think of any four person faction and there was going in two thousand and four.
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  I'll give you a hit. One of them's a tag team and the
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  other two were not a tag team at the time, but they were a
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  tag team at some point, you guys give up? Yeah, I have
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  no idea, Yeah, okay, okay. So Triple HS was traded back
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  within like less than a week. It didn't even last very long because he
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  didn't even show up on SmackDown. He was traded back to Raw for Rob
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  Van, Damn Booker T and the Dudley Boys, four people. I think
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  it was just to show like how important that they believe Triple H was to
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  that brand, and not splitting up Evolution because I think he was part of
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  Evolution still at the time. Uh, we got a Rob band damn mentioned
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  it on four twenty, so hey, no, right, yeah, happy
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  four twenty. I just read some triple H ego stroke. I know,
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  right right, he's worth four superstars. This guy maybe the best tag team
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  of all time. Right, I thought it was weird be four people,
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  But you guys might get this one. In two thousand and two, when
• 26:44
  we got the very first draft, who was the very first wrestler to get
• 26:48
  drafted? Stone Cole, Steve Auston to Raw Stole Steve Auston was number Actually,
• 27:02
  I don't even think it was number two even it was it The Rock
• 27:04
  to SmackDown. It was the Rock. I think number two was the Undertaker.
• 27:14
  Okay, I knew it was one of those two because I knew I
• 27:15
  remember the Rock being like one of the first. I thought it was Stone
• 27:19
  Cold to Raw was one and Rock was two. But okay, the Rocks
• 27:22
  was number one, Okay, Stone Cole Steve Auston was immune to the draft.
• 27:27
  He was one of the very few superstars who were immune completely to the
• 27:33
  draft. And I guess I can see why he's like, I ain't gonna
• 27:37
  take him partner of stupid ass draft. I'm gonna be on both shows.
• 27:40
  You know I make you money. Well he didn't know. He pretty much
• 27:44
  remained on Raw. Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Yeah. And I
• 27:48
  knew the Rock got drafted to SmackDown. I knew that one was one because
• 27:52
  you know, that was his you know, he basically branded that, you
• 27:55
  know, came up with the brand SmackDown, but basically then shows they golfed
• 28:00
  him in his you know catchphrase. So I remember that one. Now show
• 28:06
  one more, guys, I'll give you the year to help out. In
• 28:11
  two thousand and eleven, which Superstar was drafted from Raw to SmackDown and then
• 28:17
  back to Raw within the same night. Drops that sounds like what did you
• 28:23
  say? That sounds like some John Cena shit, John Sea. Yeah,
• 28:30
  yeah, to be drafted twice, and I thought, what a waste of
• 28:36
  a draft to draft the same person twice. It was a shock because I
• 28:41
  was like excited, Oh, he's going back to SmackDown and then you know,
• 28:48
  right back to Raw the same night, not not even less than what
• 28:51
  a few hours and then the same night. But I thought those were pretty
• 28:56
  good. Uh, he was doing something with that serve. Yeah, let's
• 29:06
  run it back. Uh yeah, now, and you know, for a
• 29:10
  while in the following years, instead of calling it the draft, they would
• 29:15
  call it the Superstar shake Up. Uh yeah, I don't know. I
• 29:21
  didn't like the Superstar shake up. I always like when they just called it
• 29:25
  the draft. Uh you know what, I think, I'm gonna take this
• 29:30
  moment and we're gonna hand it off the Doyle because I think he has some
• 29:34
  facts for us. Doyle, take it away. What do you what do
• 29:38
  you got? As you may have noticed, the WWE Draft this year is
• 29:45
  taking place alongside the NFL Draft, um, which I think is a ludicrous
• 29:51
  decision for I guess the thinking of the thinking being that, uh, people
• 29:56
  will have drafts on the mind. I don't know, I don't know why
• 30:00
  they wouldn't have drafts on the mind a week later. But like the NFL
• 30:04
  draft does a rating bonanza, right like I kind of expect SmackDown. It's
• 30:10
  going to get crushed if you're a person that looks at the ratings. But
• 30:15
  just we're talking NFL Draft and WWE Draft at the same time, I figure
• 30:19
  a lot of people are going to be compiling their lists of hoot, you
• 30:22
  know, number one picks you know from various years or whatever. But inspired
• 30:29
  by the NFL, I wanted to have a look at They do a thing
• 30:30
  called mister Irrelevant, which is the last person selected in the draft every year.
• 30:37
  I think mister Irrelevant gets a parade at Disney World, if I'm not
• 30:41
  mistaken. It's kind of a fun little thing the NFL does. So I
• 30:45
  thought it might be fun to go look at some of who some of the
• 30:48
  mister or miss irrelevance have been over the years with the EWE draft. So
• 30:56
  the very first inaugural Mister Irrelevant in two thousand and two going to SmackDown because
• 31:03
  they weren't anywhere. This is the first time we're splitting them up. Is
• 31:06
  Perry Saturn if you remember Perry sattur In, one of the radicals, along
• 31:11
  with Dean Malenko, Eddie Guerrero and that guy. We don't talk about it
• 31:17
  anymore. There isn't another draft AGA until two thousand and four, two years
• 31:22
  and kind of a strange move. The last pick of that draft is the
• 31:26
  general manager of SmackDown, Paul Hamon, going to Row to become the GM
• 31:32
  of Raw. Kind of a kind of a swerve, you know there nobody
• 31:37
  saw common at the time. Follow up a year later and five the first
• 31:45
  time we see a world's heavyweight champion move. Batistay goes from raw to SmackDown.
• 31:49
  He would not be the last heavyweight champion to move in the draft.
• 31:53
  However, in two thousand and six we have ww ec W has a supplemental
• 32:00
  draft. Uh so they eats just get RVD goes from ECW. I'm sorry,
• 32:06
  RVD goes from Roddy UCW and current angle goes to SmackDown. I don't
• 32:09
  know if you want to count that one or not. You said two thousand
• 32:15
  and five Batista was drafted. How could you be the world champion to be
• 32:20
  drafted last? Right, It's not like, um, it's not like picking
• 32:29
  a team at recess. I mean, everybody's gonna be in there. I
• 32:31
  guess. I don't know if being being drafted last has quite the stigma of
• 32:38
  of being a gym class. Where were we? Uh? Oh so seven
• 32:46
  h seven they start doing the wacky supplemental drafts after the thing, right,
• 32:51
  Sometimes they're on on the internet, as you said before. Sometimes they do.
• 32:55
  Uh, it will eventually be on the network. But this is the
• 33:00
  first year we have that. So in the regular draft, the last pick
• 33:04
  was mister Kennedy. Kennedy SmackDown to raw. UH, and the last pick
• 33:14
  in the supplemental draft was layla Um going from SmackDown to w W E c
• 33:20
  w H. Now, as we discussed two thousand and eight, UH last
• 33:24
  pick was the w w E champion at the time, Triple H going from
• 33:29
  raw to SmackDown, but the supplemental pick that so the last pick that year
• 33:35
  was Kofi Kingston back when he was a Jamaican UH going from e c W
• 33:40
  R ww E c W to raw. Two thousand and nine we got brand
• 33:47
  new Hall of Fame or Ray Mysterio going from raw to SmackDown, but the
• 33:52
  supplemental draft the last pick was Bribella going from SmackDown to raw. Two thousand
• 33:58
  and ten, we see Jericho as last pick in the draft going from SmackDown
• 34:00
  to raw, but the supplemental draft pick Zach Ryder. No. I couldn't
• 34:06
  really such that where he was before that, but he got drafted too raw.
• 34:10
  UM twenty twelve, we got Sena the John Cena as the last pick
• 34:16
  going from SmackDown to raw, and the supplemental is Missus cm Punk herself a
• 34:21
  j Lee who went it was a call up going from Florida Championship Wrestling fc
• 34:27
  W, which eventually is what's going to become NXT. She went to SmackDown.
• 34:32
  In twenty sixteen, the Celtic Warrior, one of my favorite, Shamus
• 34:37
  goes to Raw. Um and now we start getting the draft center live on
• 34:42
  the network. Weird stuff. Uh And in that one we had Carmelo going
• 34:46
  is called up from NXT to SmackDown. Twenty seventeen, we started with the
• 34:52
  Superstar shake up. The New Day goes to Raw, goes from Raw to
• 34:57
  SmackDown. There is no supplemental draft that year. The New Day wins the
• 35:00
  uh mister irrelevance for that year. Twenty eighteen we got Andrade and Selena Vega
• 35:07
  has call ups from NXT, going to SmackDown again, no supplemental draft.
• 35:12
  Twenty nineteen, we're almost there because they do two drafts they want, which
• 35:21
  is bizarre. And the sing brothers of the final pick uh Sunil and Samar
• 35:25
  they were um uh shit, I can't think of dinner Mahaal's henchman. Uh.
• 35:32
  They went from SmackDown to two oh five live. Uh so, but
• 35:38
  then later that year they do another uh little they do another terrible you got
• 35:45
  I'm sorry I was saying, that's a terrible draft. You get drafted from
• 35:49
  SmackDown to two h five lives. That really encounters a draft. That's more
• 35:52
  like being sent down to the minor leagues. Yes, that was the last
• 35:59
  year of the Superstars shakeup. They go back to calling it the draft again
• 36:04
  when they do it in twenty nineteen, and Live Morgan goes from Raw to
• 36:07
  SmackDown and the supplemental draft. Uh. Sarah Logan, who was now known
• 36:13
  as Valhalla went from Raw to Raw. I don't really understand that, but
• 36:19
  she was shortly shortly thereafter was given her wished wished what wished luck in her
• 36:25
  future endeavors. Uh. So it wasn't a mood point. Uh. Twenty
• 36:30
  twenty we got a curat Zawa going from Raw to Raw and in the supplemental
• 36:36
  draft, this is the only name on this list. Unbelievably that I was
• 36:39
  just like, who and the fuck is this? Are turo Ruaz? Does
• 36:44
  anyone remember this guy went from NXC to Raw and then got released almost immediately.
• 36:50
  Um. Then last year and I'm sorry, the last year there's been
• 36:57
  a drafts twenty twenty one, we had Sammy going from SmackDown back to SmackDown
• 37:02
  and then the supplemental draft, Veer went from raw to raw and he hasn't
• 37:07
  been seen or heard from since, but he's coming any week now. Yeah
• 37:13
  right, oh yeah. Hey. You know what's funny when you go through
• 37:23
  that list, you you you mentioned names like Batista as the world champion.
• 37:29
  You mentioned guys like John Cena, a Shamus. You know, it's crazy
• 37:34
  to think that these were the last picks. But then you got like the
• 37:37
  Sing Brothers, you know what I mean, Like, it's crazy, like
• 37:40
  those are those those wrestlers are on the same list as but so so you
• 37:45
  never know, and you're right, it's not like you're in gym class and
• 37:49
  you're picking people for your basketball team or dodgeball team, like you're picking the
• 37:53
  tallest, the strongest, the fastest person. Uh, it's just not how
• 37:58
  it goes. But even when you're I don't know, like there's a GM
• 38:04
  mode in wrestling games and when you get to pick your wrestlers and stuff like,
• 38:08
  you immediately go for for for those types of wrestlers. But it's crazy
• 38:14
  to think that those guys made it last picks and pert storyline, if you
• 38:19
  go back and watch it did make sense. Um, and because you know
• 38:24
  in two thousand and five when some of that stuff doesn't make a lot of
• 38:28
  sense. Yeah, yeah, some of it doesn't. But like in two
• 38:31
  thousand and five, when John Cena won his first w WI title, Uh,
• 38:35
  it was a big deal him going to raw and because he was always
• 38:39
  on SmackDown. And then same with Batista, he won his first world title
• 38:44
  that year. So it was a big deal him breaking out of that shadow
• 38:47
  from Evolution and going and doing his own thing on on SmackDown. You know,
• 38:52
  JBL's title raging is over. He thinks now that John Cena is gone,
• 38:58
  they have two titles, like, Okay, he's going to be crowned
• 39:00
  the new champion, you know. But no, uh, Teddy Long announces
• 39:06
  that you're not going to be the champion player. Um, it's John Cen,
• 39:09
  it's Batissa. You know. So this year, if I were to
• 39:15
  take a guess, and a really good guess, who would be the last
• 39:21
  pick this year? I honestly think it's gonna be Baron Corbyn. Well,
• 39:27
  you know, I was just about to say, I think there's a there's
• 39:30
  some for the right character, there's some character work that can be done in
• 39:34
  there by being the last pick, right, Like, couldn't somebody put a
• 39:38
  big chip on their shoulder and be like I'm gonna prove that, you know,
• 39:43
  I think the right character could do a lot with that. And actually
• 39:46
  Corbyn's not a bad pick for that. Uh. He was great when he
• 39:51
  was like when he was like homeless, remember, and like, oh that
• 39:55
  was fucking great. That was the best Corbyan we've had, all the Corbyns
• 40:00
  we've had, I do recall there was one where uh, Heath Slater didn't
• 40:07
  get drafted at all, and he was just like sitting in a room by
• 40:09
  himself, like nobody drafted me, you know, like they forgot about him.
• 40:15
  Uh but yeah, like the way per storyline, we're baron Corbyn's like
• 40:21
  he's just he's terrible. He sucks, He's losing matches. Even this week
• 40:24
  on Rawl, curats Zawa was telling him you suck and nobody's gonna draft you,
• 40:30
  so I really sucks. Yeah yeah, and you got that telling you
• 40:36
  you know that you suck and you're gonna be drafted last and nobody wants you,
• 40:39
  which like you're right, though it might play in his favor where he
• 40:43
  sucks so bad that he becomes good like, I don't know, but they
• 40:49
  could make it work. Yeah, no, not at all. Yeah,
• 40:54
  there's there's definitely potential there with a concept of oh, I was the last
• 40:59
  one draft rafted if they but I think in order to truly make it work,
• 41:05
  they would have to reformat the how they do the draft fundamentally, because
• 41:09
  the way it is now is pretty much just your being a draft just basically
• 41:15
  means you're just switching from one brand to the other, whereas but the entire
• 41:19
  roster for the most part, remains intact outside of a select few changes.
• 41:23
  I think if they completely shook it up and just said both rosters on both
• 41:30
  shows are completely white, clean, and we're drafting all new rosters. Yeah,
• 41:37
  yeah, we're drafting completely new rosters from the ground up, almost like
• 41:42
  you were almost like you were building like expansion teams or something of that nature,
• 41:45
  rather than just saying like, Okay, these guys already exist and we'll
• 41:51
  move you, move you move you. It's like nope, everybody goes back
• 41:53
  to zero. And then you really say we're actually doing it. Then that
• 41:58
  person who is the last one selected, oh, then then that person will
• 42:05
  legitimately have a gripe. If you had to like you know work, you
• 42:08
  know we're having here's a new like Adam Pierce, you are you know the
• 42:13
  new raw GM. Here's our new SmackDown GM. Here's the entire you know,
• 42:20
  two hundred person roster or whoever many people they currently have under contract.
• 42:23
  Here it is right now, get started, and he's your draft. That
• 42:30
  person who wounded up being last under those circumstances, that would be a true
• 42:36
  mister irrelevant and a true person that you could actually really lean in on a
• 42:40
  storyline like that as a stands now, if you're the last person drafted,
• 42:47
  sure you could try. You could try to make that storyline work. I
• 42:54
  just I'm not one hundred sold on the fact that people would buy. But
• 43:00
  it is possible, it is probably it is an idea that they could play
• 43:04
  with or they could and that is at least worth trying. All right,
• 43:09
  all right, well here's what we're gonna do. We got a list.
• 43:15
  Each of us have a list of wrestlers we want to see draft where we
• 43:19
  think we would like to see them drafted. Now, it is kind of
• 43:23
  confusing because these people have just been continuously swapping shows. It feels like there
• 43:31
  have been some wrestlers like we've discussed before, like Bianca bel Air and you
• 43:37
  know, and like maybe like Gunther or you know, just people who've just
• 43:43
  been staying on that brand and haven't really crossed over. But then you got
• 43:47
  people who are you know, on both shows every week. So I'm gonna
• 43:54
  go through my list and if we have the same ones, let's let's talk
• 44:00
  about it. Let's let's cross them off and discuss them. So let me
• 44:06
  let me go off rattle off my first, uh, first one here.
• 44:24
  Okay, it's the most obvious one, and I think we all agree.
• 44:29
  Let's see Bianca bell Air go to SmackDown. I feel like she's run her
• 44:36
  course through everybody on the raw roster. She's dominated everybody. I feel like
• 44:42
  she needs some fresh meat, per per se. Uh. Yeah, Let's
• 44:49
  let's see what she can do on on SmackDown. Uh. She's definitely taking
• 44:54
  the title with her. Uh. And that's the case. You know,
• 44:58
  they're they're going to put Ria on on raw then, but when they do
• 45:06
  put technically yeah, I know. See that's what I mean. That's where
• 45:12
  it gets fucking confusing, because it feels like she's already on rall. But
• 45:15
  if you look up it like, yeah, yeah. See, that's what
• 45:21
  I mean. Like, there's a picture of her with the SmackDown Women's title
• 45:23
  and the Raw logo right next to is there? What I mean? Like,
• 45:28
  shit like that is what is what makes this shit confusing for us as
• 45:32
  fans. So its like how much of an impact does that for us?
• 45:37
  When they're like, oh, Ria's drafted to Raw, We're like, yeah,
• 45:42
  okay, as well as she shit, that's where she's been, Like
• 45:47
  they might, I don't know, but uh, you know, I definitely
• 45:52
  think Bianca bell Air should go to SmackDown at the end of the day.
• 45:57
  Um, does anybody else have beyond on their list for the draft? No?
• 46:01
  I do know. All right, So let me get this. So
• 46:06
  you're proposing that Bianca goes to SmackDown, Yes, as champion, as champion
• 46:12
  and what and her and Ria just swapped titles. So Bianca becomes the SmackDown
• 46:15
  Woman's Champion and Ria becomes the Raw Woman's Champion. They've done it in the
• 46:20
  past, so I wouldn't be surprised if they do it again. Okay,
• 46:27
  but uh, number two I have I want to see Bobby Lashley go to
• 46:36
  SmackDown. Bobby Lashley is another one where I feel like he's running out of
• 46:40
  people to feud with, even though right now he's in a feud with somebody
• 46:46
  fresh from NXT, Bronson Reid, but uncle Bobby. I don't know how
• 46:55
  which longer this fuse is gonna last. Honestly, I'm not as in or
• 47:00
  sit in that feud. Bronson Reid seems to be get super fucking winded after
• 47:05
  like five minutes of wrestling with wrestling round with Bobby Lashly, so I don't
• 47:08
  expect a brilliant match out of that, but I would like to see,
• 47:13
  you know, Bobby Lashly go to SmackDown. Did anybody have Bobby Lashly on
• 47:19
  their LISTE? I did not. I like this though. I kind of
• 47:24
  liked this that we have different draft picks mean too. I was thinking,
• 47:28
  like, oh my god, everyone's gonna have the same thing exactly, and
• 47:30
  that's what my favorite was too. Now, when it comes to tag teams
• 47:35
  breaking up, you know, we just we've seen in the past tag teams
• 47:38
  break up and go their separate ways or as a whole. This one I
• 47:43
  see as a tag team breaking up. It's not a huge tag team,
• 47:47
  you know, with multiple championship rains. It's a it's a tag team.
• 47:51
  We've seen throughout the weeks the storyline kind of on the edge here of the
• 47:57
  team breaking up, and that would be the Alpha Academy. That would be
• 48:01
  Otiseles. And I want to see Chad Gabel go to SmackDown and do his
• 48:09
  thing. I want to see Chad Gable as a singles wrestler again. Now.
• 48:15
  I know when you think of Chad Gable as a single wrestler, people
• 48:19
  automatically go back to Shorty g you know, people go back to you know,
• 48:23
  you think about his terrible gimmicks he's had but before where he's at now,
• 48:30
  and I think if he just keeps his momentum up. I mean,
• 48:34
  if anybody has been watching any of Chad Gables matches recently, I mean he's
• 48:37
  he's especially after WrestleMania. I mean, the guy can go and he's quite
• 48:45
  good, good on the mic, he has the crowd behind him, he
• 48:47
  has a catchphrase, he has shirts now, he has his own merchandise taller.
• 48:53
  Yeah, he would be in the in the world title picture. Yeah,
• 49:00
  you know what, You're probably right. I could see him as a
• 49:02
  mid card title holder, um deaf. I don't see him being a you
• 49:07
  know, I don't see him going against Roman Rains anytime soon. But did
• 49:12
  anybody have Chad Cable on their list? I don't want the Academy to go
• 49:19
  anywhere. I love you had Chad Gable going to SmackDown? Yeah, and
• 49:22
  and notice saying okay, yeah, nope. I did not have either one
• 49:25
  of those. All right, but I like it. I like it now.
• 49:30
  My fourth pick, this one is probably going to be as a whole,
• 49:35
  and that would be Imperium going to Raw. Uh, let's see Gunther
• 49:40
  go to Raw. And you know, since he's been intercontinal champion again,
• 49:45
  he's just gone through that roster, just everybody who's been in his path,
• 49:50
  and we've seen just banger matches with him, especially the one at WrestleMania,
• 49:55
  the feud with him and Drew and Shamus. We do know. Tomorrow actually
• 50:01
  he has an Intercontinental match with Xavier Woods, which unfortunately I don't see Xavier
• 50:07
  Woods walking out with the title. I expect a good match, but I
• 50:10
  expect also Xavier Woods to get his chest, you know, chop the fuck
• 50:15
  tomorrow. Um So I think uh, putting Gunther on Raw. And it
• 50:22
  does that mean that we would have to put Austin theory the United States Champion
• 50:29
  on SmackDown. Probably you don't pick, you tell us what the solution is.
• 50:34
  Well, that's probably going to be the solution because they don't like to
• 50:38
  put two secondary titles on one brand. Um, so I could see them
• 50:43
  swapping them too, basically swapping the people, not the titles, just the
• 50:47
  guys. Let's let's take the titles with him. Let's put the United States
• 50:52
  title on SmackDown. Austin theory can get fresh matches, fresh feuds, and
• 50:58
  Santan mcgunther gunter these fresh feuds because I feel like he's in this rut with
• 51:04
  this love triangle with with he was with Shamous and True for a long time.
• 51:08
  But everybody who's been put in front of that man, he's literally chopped
• 51:12
  them the fuck down. And for my last pick, Oh so anybody have
• 51:20
  Gunter, I'm sorry. My My one and two was was theory to SmackDown
• 51:24
  and gun through the raw. Uh. But basically for the same reason you
• 51:29
  said. I mean, I feel like they both need to change the scenery,
• 51:32
  but neither of them need to lose their title. I don't think for
• 51:36
  theory. I mean, look at he could be looking to match ups against
• 51:39
  Knackamara, Ricochet, even him and Stroman might be fun the new day if
• 51:45
  they're still standing uh Shamous, you know, and you know gun Thor,
• 51:52
  you could have matches with aj lastly, you know Riddle, And I think
• 51:57
  I still think they're gonna do gun th Bra at some point. Um,
• 52:02
  yeah, just a lot of new matchups. They're both kind of tread and
• 52:06
  water where they are. But I don't I don't want to take the Tunnel
• 52:09
  title off a Gunther or Theory at this point. Yeah, I think I
• 52:15
  think, Yeah, you don't want to. You don't want two secondary titles
• 52:17
  on one show. It's just kind of it's almost a trade. M Yeah,
• 52:22
  I'm in agreement with you. I did. I didn't. It was
• 52:27
  not one of my picks. It's not one of my five picks, but
• 52:30
  it was when I strongly considered, and I do like the prospect of switching
• 52:34
  those two for again all the reasons that you said. They're both pretty stagnant
• 52:38
  where they are. Especially Theory he's been very stagnant now, especially since it,
• 52:45
  uh you know, winning against John Cena at Wressell Meat that's done virtually
• 52:49
  nothing for him. Gunther is pretty much dominating SmackDown as it stands right now,
• 52:54
  and they both need something. Uh. They both need fresh feuds,
• 53:01
  fresh people to wrestle with, fresh people to go up against. I think
• 53:05
  Austin Theory would be well served on SmackDown. He could he could truly shine
• 53:09
  on that brand, whereas the faces on that brand aren't as big and don't
• 53:15
  outshine him so much. So he can really use that beyond SmackDown and use
• 53:22
  that show to elevate himself and you know, become the faith, become a
• 53:28
  more high profile face on the SmackDown brand than he is currently on Raw and
• 53:35
  Gunter. Again, he's ready to take that step to the next level and
• 53:37
  eventually be in the royal title scene, so he will benefit greatly from having
• 53:45
  the greater exposure on the flagship show of Raw. Right, I agree.
• 53:51
  I agree with both of those, and I actually would like to see those
• 53:53
  Even though it wasn't one of the five picks I made, I'm in full
• 53:55
  agreement with those two. Now my last pick is probably controversial. Now,
• 54:02
  I bet you guys probably won't agree with me in this, and I don't
• 54:07
  think they're going to do it, but I would like to see it.
• 54:09
  Now there is a rumor that they have no plans on putting anybody on the
• 54:15
  main roster back down to NXT, which to me, in the past,
• 54:19
  I never had issues with it. I never had issues seeing guys go back
• 54:22
  down to NXT, even women, because I felt like it helped elevate some
• 54:27
  people on that roster and sometimes that wrestler who went down back to NXT needed
• 54:35
  the work, whether it's MIC work or in ring skills, they needed it.
• 54:39
  Now with the idea of Ria Ripley going to Raw Right and maybe Judgment
• 54:49
  Day, maybe this is the point where they start to part ways during the
• 54:53
  draft. This is the stable, the big stable that gets broken up.
• 54:58
  And because I'm thinking RHA's at the point where she's bigger than the stable itself.
• 55:02
  You know. Um, the feud with Ray and Dominic, it's it's
• 55:07
  WrestleMania is done. I don't need to see it stretched out any further.
• 55:13
  But they're going to beat it with a dead horse. I honestly think Dominic
• 55:17
  needs to go back, or not back, go to NXT. Uh.
• 55:23
  I think he needs more work on the mic. Uh. You know,
• 55:28
  time and time again, if anybody else catches it, dom messes up,
• 55:34
  he flubs and you know what, I got something for you guys here.
• 55:37
  Uh. That kind of cements my idea of why he needs some mic skills,
• 55:45
  you know, to work on these mic skills down a n XT,
• 55:52
  out of my out of your mouth. The man is given a microphone and
• 55:58
  he just sometimes by himself, he just can't make it work. Now,
• 56:00
  I get it. The argument is he has a lot of heat right now.
• 56:06
  But is it go away heat or is it like we hate him as
• 56:09
  a as this guy this heel we hate him. I mean sometimes to me
• 56:15
  it was just go away heat, like, dude, like you're so bad
• 56:19
  you keep flubbing your lines and and you know he started there, but I
• 56:24
  think it's genuine at this point because how much longer is Ray gonna? I
• 56:30
  feel like the only reason why he's on the main roster is because of his
• 56:35
  dad, and I feel like it's the only reason I feel like it was
• 56:38
  also like a Ray was like, I'm not gonna come back unless I have
• 56:44
  Dominic with me on the main roster under my wing. You know That's how
• 56:47
  I took it as because he's he's green as goose shit. You know,
• 56:54
  he's just knocking on the mic and Damian Priest is no better, Damian Priest
• 56:59
  has fucked up up his lines, and Finn Balor. I mean it sucks
• 57:05
  that I like And now that I'm thinking about it, it's all three,
• 57:07
  That's what I mean. Yeah, and Ria is bigger than this group.
• 57:13
  So this is where maybe these guys need to separate. They need to go
• 57:16
  their own ways. They need to work on their characters better. I'm not
• 57:21
  saying put Damian Priest and Finnbalor back on NXT. No, they can.
• 57:27
  They can do something else. Maybe they stay together as a tag team.
• 57:30
  They could use the draft as an excuse why Judgment Day broke up. You
• 57:37
  know, it could. It doesn't have to be something internal. It could
• 57:38
  be something that's forceful that breaks them up as a stable. But time and
• 57:45
  time again, when Don comes out and I see any three of these guys
• 57:49
  on the mic, I don't know who is worse, you know, like,
• 57:52
  who's okay, Who's gonna funk up their lines? Tonight? I'm ready
• 57:57
  to record it. You know, it's gonna be the highlight of Twitter.
• 58:00
  Uh So, Yeah, like I said, it could be controversial because he's
• 58:07
  already on the main roster. He this guy had his own match at WrestleMania
• 58:10
  with his father. He is on Raw and SmackDown, you know, almost
• 58:15
  every week, so he is getting tons of TV time. But at the
• 58:20
  end of the day, you know, you gotta be able to carry good
• 58:23
  promo and make it believable. Uh. Did anybody have Dominic on their list?
• 58:31
  Hell? No, I could. I could not disagree with that choice.
• 58:39
  More like you, does does dom still need some work? Yes?
• 58:46
  Does he still need some development? Absolutely? But does is he so bad
• 58:52
  that he needs to go down to the NXT? Fuck? No, Like
• 58:55
  one, NXT don't get no draft picks. They ain't drafting nobody. They
• 59:00
  to mind the leagues people get drafted from them. They don't get to pick
• 59:04
  nobody off the Raymo main roster and XT stage damn place. He ain't drafting
• 59:08
  shit. That's one and two. Whether he whether he says all his lines
• 59:15
  perfectly or not, it does not matter because right now he is arguably the
• 59:22
  hottest heel in the WWE. Right now. That heat that he has is
• 59:29
  genuine investment heat. It ain't that go away heat. It ain't that we're
• 59:32
  sick of you heat. It might have been like like Dowell said, it
• 59:36
  may have been that before, but he has made it work and he has
• 59:40
  turned it into genuine investment heat. People want to see him get his ass
• 59:47
  kicked, and the more he manages to avoid it and then throw it back
• 59:52
  in people's face, the more heat he generates. And as far as breaking
• 59:57
  up the judgment day, I'm not really in favor of that either, because
• 1:00:00
  again, they're not perfect, but they are one of the top factions in
• 1:00:05
  WWE right now. For as long as they've been trying, and they've been
• 1:00:09
  together and been struggling to try to make this thing work, they have managed
• 1:00:15
  to do it. It ain't been a smooth path, and it ain't been
• 1:00:20
  clean, it ain't been easy. It's been real ugly. But they're actually
• 1:00:23
  to the point now that when their music hits, I don't look at them
• 1:00:29
  as like jeez, like the way I described them previously as the high school
• 1:00:32
  gang that's trying to seem tough, but nobody believes them. They actually have
• 1:00:38
  a little bit of credibility now and a little bit of legitimacy to them now.
• 1:00:44
  And that was pretty much exemplified this past Monday with them forming a many
• 1:00:49
  alliance with Paul Hammond in the bloodline that gave them a whole lot of legitimacy
• 1:00:54
  incredibility right now as a faction. And and the way this show ended this
• 1:01:02
  past Monday with a little bit of like gang warfare and ship with bloodline fighting
• 1:01:07
  Ko and Sammy and Riddle and then LWO came out there and Judgment Day and
• 1:01:15
  they all getting they scrap on. I'm like, Oh, this is some
• 1:01:16
  good shit they got going right here. You got all these factions just intermingled
• 1:01:22
  and fighting and scrapping it out. Like they should have thought about this going
• 1:01:25
  into Survivor series. They could have had some shit popping, but they got
• 1:01:31
  something going right now. Now. It's absolutely not the time to break them
• 1:01:35
  up now, Rire Ripley, Yes, she needs to separate away from them,
• 1:01:39
  because I agree she has kind of outgrown them. She needs to separate
• 1:01:45
  eventually, I don't think. I don't think the timing is quite there yet.
• 1:01:50
  We all we all are. It's pretty obvious the kind of reactions that
• 1:01:53
  she's getting when she comes out. It's a mix of booze and cheers.
• 1:01:58
  Now, so it's almost inevitable at some point before the end of this year,
• 1:02:02
  maybe even by summers Lamp, she will have had she will have made
• 1:02:06
  a face turn, and whenever that happens, then that's the time to take
• 1:02:12
  her away or split and switch her up and make her a full face.
• 1:02:15
  I do think that she will probably be drafted to SmackDown though as part of
• 1:02:21
  the draft. But there they I feel like they're gonna try to find some
• 1:02:27
  way to still keep her Lucy associated with the Judgment Day somehow. But yeah,
• 1:02:34
  drafting Dominique the NXT and that ain't it? Chief out out of your
• 1:02:45
  mouth, don't. Yeah, let's hears be controversial. I knew it.
• 1:02:55
  What's that? I knew it was gonna be controversial. I love it.
• 1:02:58
  Let's hear it. I get a potentially controversial one. But one of my
• 1:03:01
  picks, I'll just say it now, is all of Judgment Day from raw
• 1:03:07
  to SmackDown. Uh. As I said before, you know, Rha is
• 1:03:10
  the SmackDown champ, but she's a raw talent, so I need to be
• 1:03:15
  figured out. Um. But yeah, like Drey said, I don't think
• 1:03:19
  it's time to break this faction up yet. Uh. And when that time
• 1:03:22
  comes, I think there's more story there than just they got split up by
• 1:03:27
  the draft, you know. I think there's an opportunity for a couple feuds
• 1:03:31
  maybe to come out of that. Um So, I think it deserves a
• 1:03:36
  little more, a little more than just um, you know, oh this
• 1:03:39
  is but I but I think, um, I think it's a chance to
• 1:03:44
  turn the whole faction well dominant, kind of the kind of the wild card
• 1:03:50
  here. But I think Ray is already a face. Um. I think
• 1:03:55
  a change of scenery like that might be time might be a good chance to
• 1:04:00
  kind of turned the whole faction face. Now the dom of it all kind
• 1:04:02
  of fucks out up. Ye, but we're real hard to ask you.
• 1:04:13
  It's gonna happen, and I'll tell you how it's gonna happen. But anyway,
• 1:04:16
  um, raw is a little too faction heavy. I do like to
• 1:04:20
  throw back to like the attitude era gang warfare days. Uh, but SmackDown
• 1:04:27
  could use the chance, could use a faction um so, that would help
• 1:04:31
  them there. I think I think Dominic's next thing and it's not gonna go
• 1:04:36
  well for him. I think dominic sact thing might end up being with Solo,
• 1:04:41
  and I think I think that I think there might be something with Solo
• 1:04:44
  and Riya there with that stare down. I think there might be kind of
• 1:04:49
  a match for her affection or something. You know, I don't think I'll
• 1:04:54
  go well for Dom. Uh. He might not be the most seasoned performer,
• 1:04:59
  right, but I don't know that is the whole prison Dom thing took
• 1:05:03
  some finesse, you know. I don't think everybody like that. There's so
• 1:05:06
  much tongue in cheek required for that to make that work. I don't think
• 1:05:12
  anybody could have done that. So like, yeah, the kid flubs some
• 1:05:15
  lines, sure, um, but I think he's got a good enough handle
• 1:05:21
  on his character at so far and an advanced age, you know, in
• 1:05:28
  terms of his development, Like his character work is so far ahead of his
• 1:05:31
  in ring work, you know, but he's really got to handle on that.
• 1:05:36
  I think, um, and and some people are phenomenal, look phenomenal
• 1:05:42
  or great in the ring, but they never are able to, you know,
• 1:05:46
  get that fine line between funny and making them booyah. And and Dom
• 1:05:54
  kind of does that naturally. Um. Yeah, that the Dom the Dom
• 1:05:58
  Ray story is uttil yet. But here's how you turn him face. You
• 1:06:01
  have them reconcile boom. What makes what makes a great face a great heal?
• 1:06:08
  Right, Like I think that's I think that I think that's in as
• 1:06:13
  much as is this nuclear heads getting and you say, how the fund could
• 1:06:15
  you turn that around? I don't think it's as hard as as it may
• 1:06:19
  appear at first glance. Well, I agree, I don't think it's impossible
• 1:06:26
  to turn him face. It absolutely can, and honestly, I kind of
• 1:06:30
  think that however, this, however this Ray and Dom thing culminates. I
• 1:06:36
  think it does culminate, and a reconciliation and a dom face turn. I
• 1:06:41
  do kind of see that ending that you that you laid out. I think
• 1:06:45
  that's kind of the only way that it is. I don't think it.
• 1:06:46
  I don't think it would be right if it ended with Dad just beating Sun
• 1:06:50
  and that's it and we move on. I do believe that there's some sort
• 1:06:55
  of reconciliation where they come into a DOM could from a Judgment Day enjoining the
• 1:07:02
  LWO, and that could be a thing. I do like the aspect of
• 1:07:06
  the prospect of Judgment Day as a as an entirety going to SmackDown if if
• 1:07:15
  imperium goes to raw as well. I like I like those two being a
• 1:07:21
  swap, like a whole faction swap. I do like that bundled together right
• 1:07:29
  make sense. All right, Drey, we're gonna go through your draft picks.
• 1:07:32
  Uh did we run through all the doors or did we just get these
• 1:07:35
  one? Talk aboudment? All right, right, let's hear your list.
• 1:07:51
  Okay, so when going through this, let me say first things first,
• 1:07:59
  I do not the writers in WWE in terms of trying to figure out how
• 1:08:05
  to move things around, because when I initially looked at the entire roster,
• 1:08:11
  I struggled to kind of pick out who should go where because for a lot
• 1:08:15
  of it, for a lot of these people, I thought they were actually
• 1:08:18
  kind of good where they're at. There's only like a small as Now as
• 1:08:24
  I'm looked at it more, I was able to pick out some and some
• 1:08:28
  of the ones that you people that y'all have brought up so far are actually
• 1:08:30
  some real interesting ones that I actually really like. And I'm you know,
• 1:08:34
  mad at myself for not even thinking of them. But to start off,
• 1:08:45
  well, my methodology for for making my picks was not so much thinking about
• 1:08:49
  the overall like storylines or anything like that, but more like looking at the
• 1:08:55
  individual wrestlers and seeing who kind of was in a stuck place and needed something
• 1:09:02
  needed to change, and I kind of looked a little lower down on the
• 1:09:06
  roster for some of my picks, but starting off, I did start off
• 1:09:11
  with a bit of a bang at my first draft. I would send Oscar
• 1:09:17
  to SmackDown. The reason being is I think she's done all that she can
• 1:09:25
  do on raw. We have not seen her at all sins WrestleMania, I
• 1:09:30
  don't think and SmackDown women's division is pretty lacking in a list talent. They
• 1:09:40
  need some more top tier names over there to help boost boost up the SmackDown
• 1:09:45
  brand. And I'm working on the premise that Ria Ripley as SmackDown Champion is
• 1:09:53
  a SmackDown superstar. So I'm taking her draft pick as as as an assumption,
• 1:09:59
  as an inherent one that's already happening. So I would send Oscar down
• 1:10:04
  there to SmackDown. She that could give them a real high level feud to
• 1:10:11
  have on SmackDown with Oscar going after Rhea and Oscar could also work be another
• 1:10:17
  top face to work with plenty of the other stars there there. She could
• 1:10:21
  be a you know, an eventual opponent for Raquel Rodriguez as she develops them,
• 1:10:27
  you know, uh, rises up the ladder to become a tie up
• 1:10:33
  a top talent. So that's my first one. Number two, I'm splitting
• 1:10:41
  up a tag team. But I'm not splitting up the Alpha Academy as much
• 1:10:45
  as I hate to do it now, sorry. I'm splitting up the Street
• 1:10:50
  Profits and I'm sending Angelo Dawkins to SmackDown. What Yep, We're splitting up
• 1:11:00
  the Street Profits. Splitting up the Street Profits, and this is to me,
• 1:11:04
  this is more about the fact that montes Forward is ready to go solo.
• 1:11:10
  I think it's time for him to have his solo run. And unless
• 1:11:15
  you're gonna give the Street Profits another tag title run, which I don't think
• 1:11:18
  they're going to do, then there's really nothing else for them to do as
• 1:11:21
  a team. So it's time to break them up. And most people view
• 1:11:28
  montest Forward as the one with the bigger potential of the two, and as
• 1:11:33
  such he should probably stay on Raw. We already saw him working with Raw
• 1:11:39
  talent in the Elimination Chamber. He had a big showing. He's got familiarity
• 1:11:43
  with the Raw audience. Let Angelo Dawkins go to SmackDown, let him develop
• 1:11:49
  there, Let and then and him as a big man. There's a lot
• 1:11:54
  of bigger guys on SmackDown that he can work with and have some good matches
• 1:11:58
  and some potential good views with. Think of braun Strowman, think of Gunter.
• 1:12:01
  If he were to remain on SmackDown, I think he would be well
• 1:12:06
  served on Huh, I said, I was just kidding. Want what oh
• 1:12:15
  SmackDown? Yeah? Yeah, But if he were, he would be a
• 1:12:18
  good He would be a good person that Dawkins could work with. And you
• 1:12:21
  know, you know, we people don't want to say it, but you
• 1:12:27
  know, more or less, SmackDown is kind of the lesser brand of the
• 1:12:30
  two between Ron SmackDown, so you know, the the number two of the
• 1:12:36
  tag team. I hate saying this got a lie. It feels like you're
• 1:12:39
  shipping on the guy when I think Angel Dawkins is a genuine good wrestler.
• 1:12:43
  I think he's a good talent and can develop. But I just don't think
• 1:12:46
  he's Raw caliber or Raw ready yet. I feel like if he was on
• 1:12:51
  Raw as a solo wrestler, he would get lost in the shuffle and they
• 1:12:57
  should just become a no name somebody at least on SmackDown tag team, or
• 1:13:00
  somebody's just better than the other. It is. It's unfortunate, but that's
• 1:13:03
  right, how it is right right, and at least on Smack it down,
• 1:13:08
  he has an opportunity to to be relevant and the potential to prove himself
• 1:13:13
  as a solo person, as a solo act and go there. So that
• 1:13:16
  would be my number two. Yeah, I like that. I mean conventional
• 1:13:20
  wisdom is that tag teams break up, right, but yeah, sometimes if
• 1:13:27
  you have an amicable split, you know, uh, you know, they
• 1:13:30
  could run into each other again down the line two years, three years,
• 1:13:33
  you do a reunion, they go on another run, then they do the
• 1:13:36
  turn on each other something like that. Or they could be a tag team
• 1:13:41
  that you know, reunites every you know, like what they did with the
• 1:13:45
  Shield where they every every three years. You would have a every two years
• 1:13:48
  a Shield reunion. You could have a street profits or edging Christen or whatever.
• 1:13:53
  And you know, any heartiason that such yep, yeah, uh,
• 1:13:58
  I mean you could you could do that. I mean the stuck factor alone,
• 1:14:03
  you know, because people are so accustomed to seeing these two guys together
• 1:14:08
  and always have been together. So if they were involved in that um that
• 1:14:13
  promo on Monday, where yeah, they already kind of did hints at the
• 1:14:17
  possibility of them spending m hmm. Yeah, but the seeds have been sewn,
• 1:14:24
  as they say, m hm. So my third pick, yeah,
• 1:14:30
  this one is a business decision, I'll see, and I mean business,
• 1:14:38
  not in terms of like storyline business, but actual like WWE business decision.
• 1:14:43
  Okay, I would draft Drew McIntyre to raw. It's the news is out
• 1:14:50
  there. It's no secret that Drew McIntyre's contract is supposedly set to end at
• 1:14:55
  the end of this year, and that he has not signed a new contract,
• 1:15:00
  and there have been stories about that he is a bit unhappy with his
• 1:15:03
  current uh character and unhappy with the w w E, and it's been wildly
• 1:15:11
  speculated that is very possible he may leave, that he may not sign a
• 1:15:15
  new contract, he may not renew, and he would be a big loss
• 1:15:23
  for the ww especially if he were to leave and jump to a w that
• 1:15:27
  would be major. Well, they're having having a big show at Wembley Stadium
• 1:15:33
  coming up, so like, you know, you want to put a you
• 1:15:38
  don't think if there's a chance they can get to Drew McIntyre or Drew galloway
• 1:15:43
  UH as he's known in the indies. Uh, If you think if there's
• 1:15:46
  not a chance, if there's a chance they can get that guy, they're
• 1:15:48
  not going to take that swing. Yeah, I mean they can't do it
• 1:15:54
  as tickets. So if his contract is truly up soon, you know,
• 1:16:00
  yeah, well they well, aw can't do it now. Yeah, they
• 1:16:02
  can't. But they can't do it now because he's under contract mostly through through
• 1:16:06
  this year. Yeah, so I mean, he ain't going to Drew can't
• 1:16:11
  do shit for him for their upcoming Wimbley show this year was up in the
• 1:16:15
  summer. No, no, no, from what I've heard of, his
• 1:16:17
  contract expires at the end of the year. So yeah, supposedly he's he's
• 1:16:21
  still he'll still be with w W through through twenty twenty three, I believe.
• 1:16:27
  So, so they got time to, you know, to make him
• 1:16:31
  happy, to woo them and get him back in the fold. And I
• 1:16:34
  think one way of doing that is taking him off Smack now, putting him
• 1:16:39
  on Raw on the premier show, on the flagship show, and let him
• 1:16:44
  him let letting Drew be a top baby face on Raw and give him,
• 1:16:49
  you know, let him feud with some of their top names and all that
• 1:16:51
  stuff. I think that would go a long way. Towards, uh,
• 1:16:58
  restoring some good will with Drew McIntyre and hopes of getting him to sign a
• 1:17:04
  new contract with the WWE. So that's my number three pure business decision draft.
• 1:17:12
  When you said when, when you when you prefaced it by saying pure
• 1:17:15
  business decision, I thought you took one of mine. Uh, And I
• 1:17:18
  almost said, oh, I got the same one. But then you went
• 1:17:21
  a completely different direction and it wasn't at all what I thought it was gonna
• 1:17:26
  be. So my whopper was coming is forthcoming. Yeah, I told him
• 1:17:30
  that pick. I think that pick because he, like you said, he
• 1:17:34
  does seem unhappy, and uh, maybe there's something better for him. Maybe
• 1:17:40
  the grass is greener on the other side on raw. Hopefully they can find
• 1:17:44
  some way to keep him happy. Uh, you know, because him going
• 1:17:47
  to a w would be a huge, huge hit for wb And you know
• 1:17:53
  Tony Kahn would open up the bank to sign Drew McIntyre. Hell yeah,
• 1:17:58
  he would hand him. You would hand him a check and say write down
• 1:18:00
  whatever number you want, sir. Who' do you got from number four?
• 1:18:05
  All right? So my last two are my last two. I'm deep dipping
• 1:18:14
  down deep into the roster for these two. These are two women that I
• 1:18:20
  think right now have potential but are very much being lost in the sauce where
• 1:18:29
  where they currently are. So I'll just bundle these two together because they pretty
• 1:18:32
  much have the same rationale for both. That's number four Zia Lee from SmackDown
• 1:18:40
  to Raw, and in number five, I would draft Nicky Cross from Raw
• 1:18:45
  to SmackDown. Both of them are good workers in the ring. They're both
• 1:18:53
  excellent wrestlers, but they just have zero direction and are just drowning where they
• 1:19:00
  currently are on the current rosters. So I think they both would benefit from
• 1:19:04
  a bit of a switch up. In Zi Lee's case, I think it
• 1:19:08
  would be good to put her on Raw and put her in in a faction
• 1:19:15
  like damage Control, or team her up with somebody on a raw like a
• 1:19:23
  meat chin or something to let them and let them form a tag team if
• 1:19:27
  you want to bolster your women's tag team division, or put her in damage
• 1:19:29
  control, let her link up and get the rub from that faction and get
• 1:19:33
  some elevation in the same way that Dakota Kai and El Sky gut when they
• 1:19:38
  paired up with Bailey. I think that would serve a good benefit of for
• 1:19:42
  her. Like I said, I maybe it's just me, but I have
• 1:19:45
  a personal affection for Ziale. I've seen her work in the ring, and
• 1:19:47
  I think she does good work, and I think there's potential there and the
• 1:19:51
  fact that she is the first Chinese superstar in WWE, and they're just like
• 1:19:58
  not doing anything with that at especially as huge of a market as China is.
• 1:20:02
  I don't know what type of you know, market share WW has in
• 1:20:06
  China. China even allows w W content in there, But man, that's
• 1:20:13
  if you look at just for a pure business sense, there's potential money being
• 1:20:15
  left on the table by having your first Chinese superstar in ww just doing nothing,
• 1:20:21
  nothing at all, nothing at all Like that doesn't bode well for international,
• 1:20:28
  for any of your international prospects. So I think that will work.
• 1:20:30
  And in Nicky Cross's case, again, she's another good worker and who when
• 1:20:38
  they first made the switch, dropped the Nikki as said thing and reverted her
• 1:20:43
  back to Nicky Cross. She had a little bit, a little bit of
• 1:20:46
  attention being brought to her and she was getting some shine, but has all
• 1:20:51
  but disappeared since Survivor series. So I think she needs a I think she
• 1:20:58
  needs a fresh start and and SmackDown could be it for her. She could
• 1:21:01
  be a good worker, she could help bolster that roster, and she could
• 1:21:05
  make for a interesting foe or a potential good foe for someone like a rear
• 1:21:11
  Ripley to face whenever rear Ripley inevitably turns baby face on SmackDown. I think
• 1:21:16
  there's she would have more space to work with on SmackDown rather than trying to
• 1:21:20
  fight for position on Raw. Those are my five, and I do have
• 1:21:28
  another. I do have an honorable mention, but I will save that for
• 1:21:30
  later. All right, here we go for Doyle. All right, Doyle,
• 1:21:50
  let's hear your five so well. So Dre wants to yeah to damage
• 1:21:57
  control, and I will not take that off the table because I'm gonna move
• 1:22:00
  damage control as a whole from Raw to SmackDown. Yeah. I mean you
• 1:22:08
  can say this for everybody, I think, but you know, they I
• 1:22:11
  feel like they definitely need to change the scenery. All three of them are
• 1:22:16
  so good, but like as a whole, I'm not even sure they I'm
• 1:22:23
  not sure they worked great together. So maybe adding to it is what you
• 1:22:26
  want to do, or you can tell their breakup story over there. But
• 1:22:30
  either way, the SmackDown women's roster was pretty thin. Adding three pretty high
• 1:22:38
  level women into that mix, I think is always good. You know.
• 1:22:42
  Then the two biggest stars over there, Charlotte and Ronda, you know part
• 1:22:48
  time or borderline part time. So SmackDown definitely needs a bump. I think
• 1:22:57
  if you can insert three, they can run rough shot because there is no
• 1:23:00
  real faction, uh you know, and they have they have interest in the
• 1:23:05
  tag titles, so I think there's a lot for damn with control they do
• 1:23:09
  over there. Um, And I think that would help the women's division quite
• 1:23:15
  a bit. Um because three of my my five got taken. I'll throw
• 1:23:21
  in my honorable mention here as my second. Um. And that's another package
• 1:23:29
  deal. Although these aren't always characters that are linked on television. I want
• 1:23:34
  Seth and Becky both over the SmackDown. I figure where one goes the other
• 1:23:40
  does too. Oh yeah, yeah for sure. And again with both of
• 1:23:44
  them, I feel like they both need to change the scenery. They've kind
• 1:23:47
  of done all there is to do. Again, that SmackDown women's roster really
• 1:23:51
  needs some bolstering. So you get Becky Lynch over there. In Seth's case,
• 1:23:58
  um, you know, he's a possible Roman Reigns opponent. You know,
• 1:24:04
  as much as they have so much history together, they haven't faced each
• 1:24:09
  other in a year and a half or so. Seth is one of the
• 1:24:13
  last people to get a victory over Roman Reigns. Branded was a count out
• 1:24:17
  right or it was a DQ I can't remember, but either way, the
• 1:24:21
  story of that match was that Roman had to get himself eliminated because he couldn't
• 1:24:26
  handle you know. So, I think there's still unresolved issues. And as
• 1:24:31
  much as those two characters will always be in each other's orbit, it's just
• 1:24:35
  you know, so, I think he kind of killed two birds one stone
• 1:24:41
  getting them both over there. But my big one, the the one I
• 1:24:46
  thought when Drey said this is a business decision, this is my business decision,
• 1:24:51
  I think I might know who you're gonna pick. Go ahead, free
• 1:24:55
  agent Logan Paul. That's who I fucking thought. You're gonna pick some of
• 1:25:00
  them, bitch. He just signed a new contract with WWE. It's supposedly
• 1:25:09
  multi year, so he's not going anywhere. You know, he might not
• 1:25:14
  show up every week, but when he does, I mean Fox is gonna
• 1:25:16
  want that ratings pop, you know, And and if he if he does
• 1:25:21
  three or four pay per views a year, he's gonna be involved a couple
• 1:25:26
  of weeks ahead of each of those. So you're gonna get him twelve,
• 1:25:29
  sixteen, twenty weeks out of the year. Maybe. But I also I
• 1:25:33
  don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility that he may, you know,
• 1:25:38
  go like, you know what, I'm gonna take six months, I'm
• 1:25:41
  gonna take a year or whatever it is, and I'm gonna do this,
• 1:25:44
  you know, full time. I could see him holding a US title or
• 1:25:49
  excuse me, an intercontinental title, you know, and like him or not,
• 1:25:54
  and I don't. I'm not supposed to because he's a here um.
• 1:26:00
  But he's pretty good at professional wrestling, you know. I dare say he's
• 1:26:05
  probably the top half of workers that work for the company. I mean,
• 1:26:10
  granted, he has the benefit of being able to concentrate on one match at
• 1:26:15
  a time where most of the most of our heroes and villains are doing this
• 1:26:19
  weekend week out, um, and he's got Sean Michaels holding his hand through
• 1:26:25
  the you know, the planning process of the match. But I think he's
• 1:26:29
  proven that he can do it. I think there's no reason to say that
• 1:26:32
  he couldn't do it more and bigger, and you know, if he's gonna
• 1:26:36
  be around, it's gonna be a big deal. And I think Fox would
• 1:26:42
  would welcome that boost to the ratings. And yeah, so that's my Uh,
• 1:26:48
  those are my four picks. I like it. Um Yeah, Logan
• 1:26:55
  Paul's like some a bitch. I knew he's gonna pick Logan Paul. I
• 1:26:58
  had a feeling. Uh yeah, love love him or hate him, like
• 1:27:03
  when he's there, he did he makes money. I mean, he makes
• 1:27:06
  them money. The ratings go up, My guests, we might not see
• 1:27:11
  him into another Saudi pay per view because you know, there's this one coming
• 1:27:16
  up, so maybe that's where we see him again. I'm not saying we're
• 1:27:19
  gonna see him verse Seth Rollins again. We can see him put with somebody
• 1:27:24
  else, but yeah, I definitely see him included in the draft as a
• 1:27:29
  big pick. Like if they're only gonna do like I don't know, like
• 1:27:31
  like we said, they don't, they don't draft the whole roster those two
• 1:27:35
  nights that we'll get the rest of them later. How many they're gonna be
• 1:27:40
  four picks and they're gonna be sixteen like exactly so like, but either way,
• 1:27:45
  I think he'd be a big one that they would throw in there.
• 1:27:48
  Um, like you know, they would definitely want that attention. Uh.
• 1:27:55
  But also like in the past, we've seen them draft uh even fun commentators
• 1:28:01
  moving shows. So I mean not that I have any specific commentators I want
• 1:28:06
  to go somewhere. I mean, I'm just like twiddling my thumbs. Seen
• 1:28:11
  geral managers, you've seen World champions general managers. Yeah, commentators, I
• 1:28:16
  mean anybody, yeah, ring announcers, anybody's up for grabs, really,
• 1:28:20
  you know, yeah, oh man, let's let's see. Uh, let's
• 1:28:23
  see a draft wasted on a referee. I want to see that. Love
• 1:28:28
  to see that. You know, you get brock less and drafted, then
• 1:28:30
  you get like a referee drafted next, Like what the fuck? Everybody's colligible.
• 1:28:36
  Swap ring announcers, Yeah, swap ring announcers. You know. Uh,
• 1:28:42
  you know, you know two people who are on this roster that we
• 1:28:44
  definitely I don't think we'll see in this draft. He's a Bray Wyatt and
• 1:28:48
  Uncle Howdy still listed under the roster. Current roster, and still they're both
• 1:28:56
  on SmackDown, both listed, both probably still getting paid haven't heard jack shit
• 1:29:02
  from any of these guys since both pre WrestleMania. Supposedly bray Wyatt is recovering
• 1:29:09
  from some medical issue, is the last thing I've heard. So that's that's
• 1:29:15
  all we know. It's very vague, so we don't know if that's a
• 1:29:17
  physical thing, or if it's a mental health thing or what have you.
• 1:29:21
  Now, we don't know. I just hope for whatever it is a speedy,
• 1:29:26
  healthy recovery, because honestly, like I love, I love bray Wyatt,
• 1:29:31
  you know, I love his gimmick, and his gimmick just seems as
• 1:29:34
  he changes and evolves, has gotten better and better, and it just sucks
• 1:29:40
  that, Like the build up for him coming back was so big. We
• 1:29:44
  were so excited to see him at the Wells Fargo when he came back,
• 1:29:47
  and then it just stops the momentum. It was just little vignettes, little
• 1:29:54
  tiny vignette teases. And then the only match she's really had was a Mountain
• 1:30:00
  dew Neon Glows Cliber Pump twenty twenty seven and to go match with La Night.
• 1:30:09
  And you know, I hate to toot my own horn, but I
• 1:30:15
  seem to recall saying something to the effect of uh, because that because he
• 1:30:19
  debuted righted that weird time where they had they had a big instead of their
• 1:30:26
  normal pay per view pay per view pay per view paste they kind of it
• 1:30:29
  kind of it was weird. In that time, there was like a the
• 1:30:32
  longest time, Yeah, it was. It was. It was the longest
• 1:30:36
  period of time between pay per views since like the early nineties or something,
• 1:30:42
  and the show y'all went to right way right between that and the Rumble or
• 1:30:45
  something or no, it might have been Survivor series in the Rumble. Yeah,
• 1:30:50
  but I was like, there's so much space in there. If they
• 1:30:53
  don't play this brave card right, they might really fuck it up. And
• 1:30:58
  uh, I think I'm prepared to say they really fucked it up. Yeah,
• 1:31:02
  yeah, definitely, yeah they did. But at the same time,
• 1:31:04
  I don't entirely blame the WWE because, as let's not forget bray Wyatt has
• 1:31:12
  been granted much more control over his character's direction this time around. So it
• 1:31:16
  isn't that this whole storyline and the execution of his character since coming back wasn't
• 1:31:23
  all WWE saying this is what we're doing this week, this is what we're
• 1:31:27
  doing next week. I believe a lot of it, and honestly, I
• 1:31:30
  think more than fifty percent of it was bray Wyatt laying out the ideas and
• 1:31:35
  the just uh plans he wanted for his character and then maybe working maybe with
• 1:31:43
  some people on the writing team to execute it and all that stuff and basically
• 1:31:46
  getting Triple Agents approval like all right, cool, go with it, Ozzie.
• 1:31:50
  I blamed bray Wyatt more than I blamed WWE for this, for the
• 1:31:58
  stalling in momentum that bray Wyatt is underwent since he came back, and that's
• 1:32:02
  not and that's independent of whatever he's dealing with now. I just I'm looking
• 1:32:10
  at it just from when he was active on television and how that was executed,
• 1:32:15
  and I say, I think that's more on bray in terms of dragging
• 1:32:19
  out his storyline way too long. Mm hm oh yeah, please still installing
• 1:32:27
  the momentum. I mean, but part of that was a function of the
• 1:32:30
  debut him in extreme roles. They don't do anything on them at the Survivor
• 1:32:33
  series a month later, and then there's two months until the Royal Rumble and
• 1:32:40
  that idiotic uh Mountain Dew match that I blamed four that's stupid matcham n Uh,
• 1:32:53
  yeah, No, I think I think. I don't think he's ready
• 1:32:57
  for raw yet. I would keep him on SmackDown. I would let I
• 1:33:00
  would let him stay on smack Down and develop more and build up a little
• 1:33:02
  bit more menum, momentum develop. I'm not I don't mean to develop as
• 1:33:09
  a as a wrestler more. But his character, this this thing he's got
• 1:33:13
  going out is still it's over some, yes, but it's still kind of
• 1:33:18
  fresh. He ain't that far removed from being Renee dupree. I ain't that
• 1:33:26
  far removed from it. So I would let it. I would let it
• 1:33:29
  cook him. I would let it cook a little bit more on smack Down
• 1:33:31
  before I jump him over the raw. Um. I don't know. I
• 1:33:43
  have a question for everybody, though, I throw this out there. Um,
• 1:33:46
  do y'all think in this draft we will see some n XT call ups,
• 1:33:50
  and if so, who absolutely? I think outside the obvious bron Breaker.
• 1:33:57
  Well, here's the thing is, I don't know we'll get braun Breaker.
• 1:34:00
  He is now a heel and doing heel work now. I don't know
• 1:34:04
  if they might just keep him on NXT as a heal. But I think
• 1:34:10
  we're gonna get people maybe like Tyler Bate. We might get uh female wise,
• 1:34:15
  I'd like to see Zoe Stark or cored Jade. That was my honorable
• 1:34:19
  Minchen Yep, mays NXT call up right, Maybe they'll bring somebody like Tiffany
• 1:34:28
  Stratton. I oh god, do you guys know that Roderick Strong is still
• 1:34:33
  on NXT? Brodrick Strong like st Yeah, that's like that blows my fucking
• 1:34:43
  mind that he's still on NXT. Um. I don't know, like Shank
• 1:34:49
  still lost Macow Technically Jim dur Mahal is on NXT right now, Will they
• 1:34:56
  ever bring his ass back up? You know? He he's a prime example
• 1:35:00
  of a guy who needed to go back. Dude, that guy was a
• 1:35:03
  former WBE champion and then put him back NXT. So it just shows that
• 1:35:08
  nobody is off limits from going back to NXT for work. But it's just
• 1:35:12
  they don't have no intentions on putting anybody back in NXC. Maybe j C.
• 1:35:18
  Jane and and Gig Nolan can finally go to the main roster. I
• 1:35:24
  don't say they have to be on the same the same roster um right now.
• 1:35:29
  Indy Hartwell is is championed so I don't see them bringing her up yet,
• 1:35:33
  even though I think she was due for call up. I mean nxcise,
• 1:35:39
  I don't watch enough NXT. But aren't there a number of tag teams?
• 1:35:44
  Couldn't they maybe get a couple of tag teams back up, and maybe,
• 1:35:47
  especially if we're gonna split up the Tag Belts I hope. Yeah.
• 1:35:53
  Uh, it'd be nice to have a couple like actual tag teams, especially
• 1:35:57
  in the women's division where most of the tag teams are just two chicks they
• 1:36:01
  ran the way through together, you know, like the current champions. Aren't
• 1:36:08
  there aren't Aren't there a couple of like like solid unit like tag teams like
• 1:36:13
  that? There is? Uh? You know, I love a tag team
• 1:36:18
  that wears the same stuff. This is you know, this is a big,
• 1:36:21
  big pet peeve of my Yeah, they definitely have some women. They
• 1:36:28
  have tons of women on their attacks. They have some tag teams down there
• 1:36:31
  they could bring up. Uh, let me see Casey Katana Chance. Katana
• 1:36:36
  Chance is tag team partners with her name eludes me. I can't find it.
• 1:36:45
  Ah shit, somebody's probably screaming it right now. I can't. Oh,
• 1:36:49
  Kayden Carter. Uh, they've been a tag team for quite some time
• 1:36:54
  on NXT, their former NXT. I think that's specifically who I was thinking
• 1:36:58
  of. Yeah, that that's that's a tag team I could definitely see called
• 1:37:01
  up. They made you know, they made a mistake by breaking up Gig
• 1:37:05
  and Jacu once uh Mandy Rose left. That would have been a good tag
• 1:37:11
  team. I mean, toxic attraction, that would have been a good one.
• 1:37:15
  Absolutely should have broken them up. Yeah, not saying that they can't
• 1:37:19
  put them back together, but it was roster. They absolutely could the Rockers
• 1:37:25
  go back together. Yeah, Yeah, it's just you know, they need
• 1:37:30
  more women's tag teams if they're gonna if they want us to take the tag
• 1:37:34
  team titles. Seriously, right now, they're on Live Morgan and Raquel Rodriguez,
• 1:37:41
  and I don't think that's gonna last long. I just think they're going
• 1:37:44
  to be fed to when they're ready, when Ronda and Shana Basler are physically
• 1:37:48
  ready, They're just gonna be fed to them playing. That's just how it's
• 1:37:51
  gonna end up being. And I think they're just gonna hold on to them
• 1:37:55
  for a good amount of time and just run through the rosters probably, but
• 1:38:01
  to the NXT effect, this is kind of this is This leads more to
• 1:38:08
  something that I've brought up before in terms of the wwe would be well served
• 1:38:13
  to have more open integration between the main roster and NXT, because as of
• 1:38:20
  now, they still like to treat them like, treat NXT like its own
• 1:38:24
  separate thing when even carry over the right right and I think they would be
• 1:38:32
  better served if they if they just openly acknowledge NXT for what it is,
• 1:38:36
  which is basically their developmental to territory. Treat it like it, treat it
• 1:38:43
  openly the way like the Major League Baseball does the minor leagues, or the
• 1:38:46
  way in like the NBA and the G League. Let it be that developmental
• 1:38:51
  thing and openly acknowledge it and integrate it in between into the things that you
• 1:38:58
  do. And to that effect, I think, like I suggested earlier this
• 1:39:02
  year that UM Royal Rumble spots should have been should have automatically gone to the
• 1:39:09
  NXT champion in women's champion, that they should have gotten automatic bids into the
• 1:39:14
  World Rumble. That's one thing in regards to this draft. I think it
• 1:39:17
  would be a good thing if they said, if they openly acknowledged and said,
• 1:39:23
  hey, raw and SmackDown will each have two draft picks from the n
• 1:39:29
  XT roster, like if they if they made that a stated thing beforehand,
• 1:39:33
  like, hey, Raw's gonna draft two NXT people. SmackDown is gonna get
• 1:39:38
  too NXT draft picks in addition to everything else that they do in between.
• 1:39:42
  And if you made that like an open thing that was acknowledged and then you
• 1:39:45
  had and you pitched that to the NXT roster, play that out on NXT
• 1:39:50
  is like yo, they're watching, like the people are Raw are looking,
• 1:39:55
  the people a SmackDown are looking. Here's your opportunity to impress them. Make
• 1:39:58
  a bid to you know, get that spot, or if it's not a
• 1:40:02
  draft thing, make it a spot that somebody has to actually win, Like,
• 1:40:06
  hey, we have two open spots on each roster, and y'all have
• 1:40:12
  to compete for them. Have like a maybe you know, a little mini
• 1:40:15
  tournament, you know, one man one woman for each roster, you know,
• 1:40:18
  one man on SmackDown, one woman on SmackDown, one man one woman
• 1:40:23
  on Raw and make them compete for making something that they win. That's that
• 1:40:27
  type of open integration that would help generate one more interested in NXT, get
• 1:40:32
  more people interested in it. Get some of that bleed over from the people
• 1:40:36
  who are tuning into Raw and SmackDown and say, oh, oh, there's
• 1:40:40
  something happening on NXT that we should pay attention to that's gonna play out later
• 1:40:44
  on Raw SmackDown. Let me go check out nxtn see how this plays out.
• 1:40:46
  They would be well served, I think, to do things like that
• 1:40:50
  openly and have that have those crossover storylines like that. Anytime you can integrate
• 1:40:59
  matches to me, you know, matches and aren't for titles and ostensively aren't
• 1:41:04
  for anything, make them beat for something, you know what I mean,
• 1:41:08
  anytime you can do that. Yeah, Like like I was saying, you
• 1:41:13
  know, even even in the in the main rasta draft, you know how
• 1:41:16
  they did it for a couple of years where they would have you know,
• 1:41:19
  a SmackDown wrestler and a raw wrestler wrestle to see who would get the draft
• 1:41:25
  pick. And back then there's much more segregation, so you didn't have you
• 1:41:30
  know, Raw and SmackDown versus SmackDown matches all the time. A special thing
• 1:41:35
  in and of itself, and then then it's for something, it ratches it
• 1:41:39
  up another notch, you know, and and it makes an otherwise, you
• 1:41:44
  know, match means something. Yeah. Do you guys remember when they would
• 1:41:49
  do the draft, Um, they would have all the superstars on the same
• 1:41:54
  show and they would wear the shirts. They would wear their branch and I
• 1:41:59
  was kind of cool because sometimes at the end of the episode, I recall
• 1:42:02
  one year, this is when Triple H. This is probably the same time
• 1:42:06
  Triple H got drafted to SmackDown. Eddie Guerrero was w W champion at the
• 1:42:12
  time. Triple H had a match against Eddie Guerrero. Right, I'm like,
• 1:42:15
  oh my god, Like, Triple H is going to go to SmackDown.
• 1:42:19
  I haven't seen him on SmackDown in many, many years. He's gonna
• 1:42:23
  go against the w W champion. He might beat Eddie Guerrero. You know,
• 1:42:26
  I'm young, I don't know, I'm young and dumb, but I
• 1:42:30
  remember this is when Stone Colt was running Raw. You know, they started
• 1:42:35
  sending out SmackDown superstars to interfere, right smack All these blue shirts are out
• 1:42:41
  there interfering, and then you hear Jaron King like, we need more red
• 1:42:44
  shirts out here, we need more red shirts. And Stone Cool comes out
• 1:42:46
  and he's like sending out all these guys in red shirts. He's gone in
• 1:42:50
  the back, he's bringing all these guys in red shirts, and it's just
• 1:42:53
  a flood of red and blue just on the outside, ball crazy, and
• 1:43:00
  and that's how it went off of the air. And I just thought that
• 1:43:02
  was awesome, that that was so cool. How you would have like the
• 1:43:06
  whole roster there just just going fucking nuts. And it wasn't women. It
• 1:43:11
  was just all men. But now, I mean, you have enough you
• 1:43:15
  might as was this pun of them all in there, but uh, I
• 1:43:17
  don't think we'll ever see something like that again. At one point, NXT
• 1:43:24
  was a big deal when they were included in Survivor series. You know,
• 1:43:28
  that's when I thought when NXT felt like it was an equal almost too raw
• 1:43:35
  and SmackDown, like they were taking a lot more serious. That's from Triple
• 1:43:40
  H invaded Raw and SmackDown on the old d X style on a tank and
• 1:43:45
  he had the whole NXT roster. That's when Rhea was on NXT. You
• 1:43:49
  know that, Huh. I thought Shot invented that, Yeah right, the
• 1:43:56
  little thing sure DX did back in nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:44:01
  yeah, but like they did it, and that wasn't a thing that was
• 1:44:04
  a homeb. They pulled up. They made it work though they they invaded
• 1:44:09
  raw and SmackDown, you know, like you know, I could hear Kern
• 1:44:12
  angle now like, oh they're under siege. You know, we're under attack,
• 1:44:16
  you know, uh uh, you know that was when Brand's supremacy was
• 1:44:23
  very important. That's when survivor shares was important. That's when so like like,
• 1:44:28
  my roster is better than your roster. And then when you you know,
• 1:44:31
  a key component to all that is when you see heels and faces working
• 1:44:36
  together against the common enemy. You know, and you kind of had the
• 1:44:42
  same thing back to the nWo back then. You know when when they would
• 1:44:46
  flood the ring with uh you know nWo guys and then the WCT will run
• 1:44:55
  out there, roster run out and yeah and you have flair you know next
• 1:44:59
  to goldber next what you know, like yeah, anytime, it makes it
• 1:45:04
  feel more um, I don't know what the word for it is, uh
• 1:45:11
  cool, yeah, cool, It feels more like a real thing. You
• 1:45:16
  know when when when the two guys that hate each other suddenly going, oh
• 1:45:20
  no, let's team up against this motherfucker. Because you know, like there's
• 1:45:27
  a certain amount of um ravitas or whatever you uh, you know, yeah,
• 1:45:32
  you know, and all that sounds great. It would be good things
• 1:45:35
  to do. I think it would require them to fundamentally, fundamentally rethink how
• 1:45:44
  they look at their brands and their roster like rather than it's just being WWE
• 1:45:50
  and Raw SmackDown in name only, they would have to go back to the
• 1:45:57
  roots of the roster split and look at Raw and smack Down as fundamentally different
• 1:46:01
  things. Even if you have like your champions at the top and NXC as
• 1:46:08
  it's as it's you know, it's minor leagues, they would have to rethink
• 1:46:13
  it from an organizational standpoint. I'm not saying it can't be done. I
• 1:46:17
  think it is possible because I still the thing that always hangs in the back
• 1:46:24
  of my mind was when WWE hired I still don't remember the persons name,
• 1:46:29
  but they hired a writer who used to work at I think Marvel or DC
• 1:46:33
  or something. But they brought the person in to work on their writing team
• 1:46:39
  to help do more develop more long term storylines and to do To pull off
• 1:46:47
  something like that would require a mind like that. It would require to somebody
• 1:46:51
  to almost have like an mcu type of mentality when looking at WWE in terms
• 1:47:00
  of like, Okay, some you guys over here, y'all can do some
• 1:47:03
  week to week things, but here's this overall picture. Here's this overall grand
• 1:47:10
  story that we're going to tell in the WWE for like the next year.
• 1:47:15
  You know, somebody's gotta be playing into stuff, stuff out like months in
• 1:47:19
  advance and thinking like, you know, it's all gonna culminate at you know,
• 1:47:24
  WrestleMania next year this way, and here's how we're gonna get there.
• 1:47:29
  And I don't know if they I don't know if they're looking at their storytelling
• 1:47:34
  in that way right now. I would hope that they were. I would
• 1:47:39
  hope, especially somebody like Triple As, I would hope that they would have
• 1:47:41
  that type of foresight or have that type of grand picture. I just don't
• 1:47:46
  know if ww is there yet. You can only do so much of that,
• 1:47:50
  though, because because somebody gets injured and then the whole right right right,
• 1:47:57
  that is the complication. But getting coke and then you get suspended,
• 1:48:02
  Yeah, I'm saying like, yeah, you can't do you can't necessarily do
• 1:48:05
  it to every single you know, down to every minor detail. But it
• 1:48:12
  would be good to have some sort of brand plan for some of these things
• 1:48:17
  in terms of how you look at it. And yes, obviously injuries can
• 1:48:23
  change things that the drop of a dime, and you have to have some
• 1:48:26
  level of fluidity to it. But I still think they would benefit from having
• 1:48:30
  a bit from taking a bit of a wider and more long term view at
• 1:48:36
  their storytelling beyond just that's our next guy. We're gonna spend the next year
• 1:48:43
  building him up. Yeah, I mean, I definitely see what you're saying,
• 1:48:47
  and I don't categorically disagree with you, And I think I think they've
• 1:48:55
  been doing a pretty good job of more long term planning for stuff. But
• 1:49:00
  this is such a unique thing, right, like like guys and gals,
• 1:49:06
  uh, pretending to fight in front of an audience, you know, like
• 1:49:11
  uh, and and you know, in addition to injuries can can derail a
• 1:49:15
  whole thing. You know, sometimes the audience just ain't there for it,
• 1:49:19
  you know what I mean. And if if they've planned out this whole thing
• 1:49:23
  and the audience is shifting all over it, then you're gonna pivot again.
• 1:49:27
  Uh. So, yes, I agree, it's a great idea to have
• 1:49:31
  shit planned out in an advance or whatever. But yeah, you gotta be
• 1:49:35
  ready to blow the whole thing up if you have to. Uh. And
• 1:49:41
  and you know, one thing affects another thing, but affects another thing.
• 1:49:45
  You know, if you've got two guys you're building up this big main event,
• 1:49:48
  one of them gets hurt, you got to insert somebody else in there,
• 1:49:51
  and then you're taking him away from some other things, and then you're
• 1:49:54
  gonna get somebody else into that feud, and then that person taking somebody else
• 1:49:58
  from out of something else. So you know, so the whole thing collapses
• 1:50:00
  on itself. It's a house of cards. So yes, should they look
• 1:50:03
  forward, Yes, I think they're I think they've been much better about doing
• 1:50:06
  that. I think they should do that. But a lot of room for
• 1:50:11
  it. There has to be a big Martian ramea, you know, because
• 1:50:15
  a lot of ship can go wrong, not just injuries. Sure, and
• 1:50:19
  I'm not saying that, you know that the planning has to be that detailed
• 1:50:24
  in terms of like, Okay, these two are gonna feud, and this's
• 1:50:27
  gonna happen, and then that feud is gonna lead into this feud. And
• 1:50:29
  while they're doing that feud, we're gonna have this subtle thing going on in
• 1:50:31
  the background that's gonna play out in August, and it's coming they do.
• 1:50:34
  I'm not saying they have to think on it on that level. I'm not
• 1:50:36
  saying that that's the type of detailing and planning that they have to have.
• 1:50:41
  I'm saying something more to the effect of, you know, again, like
• 1:50:44
  I said, first things first, fundamentally change how you view your brands and
• 1:50:51
  your roster. Treat and openly treat NXT as the developmental territory that it is.
• 1:50:58
  You know, do the do do those minor integrations between an XC and
• 1:51:03
  the main roster, things like you know, your champions get automatic will rumble
• 1:51:09
  bids, you know, zering with this draft. Have some open have open
• 1:51:14
  dedicated spots to n XT call ups and make it public. Don't just try
• 1:51:18
  to do it as like a surprise thing like in this next pick, Holy
• 1:51:23
  crap, somebody from NXC, like, No, make it known beforehand that
• 1:51:27
  this is something that's going to happen. You know, you get your Survivor
• 1:51:30
  series coming up or something like that. You know, plan something around,
• 1:51:33
  have something planned around that, you know, if it involves an XC or
• 1:51:41
  or whoever you know, say you have a you know, there's been talk
• 1:51:45
  of um. In addition to all this changing that's going to happen with this
• 1:51:50
  draft, there's also been talk of potential new championships being introduced. I am
• 1:52:00
  crossing my fingers and quietly praying that they are women's mid card titles. I'm
• 1:52:02
  still holding onto that. But suppose you do. Suppose that is the case,
• 1:52:08
  Like you know, we're introducing women's Intercontinental Championships on Raw and SmackDown,
• 1:52:13
  and they'll be held with a tournament. You know, have a slot in
• 1:52:17
  the tournament, go to an NXT person or have it or or something else
• 1:52:25
  of that nature. Or if you want to have an overall just a single
• 1:52:29
  you know, integration, like say they're planning to integrate, to not integrate,
• 1:52:32
  but do you consolidate the women's titles like with between Ria and Bianca's title
• 1:52:41
  things like that is what I'm talking about in terms of that loose planning.
• 1:52:46
  And obviously, yeah, you can have a plan like you know, we're
• 1:52:49
  planning on having Bianca versus Rea Ripley at SummerSlam to uh, you know,
• 1:52:55
  unify the women's title into a single belt. But okay, Rea tore acl
• 1:53:00
  in July. Now we gotta pivot. You can still do the unification thing,
• 1:53:05
  it just might not be between RHA and Bianca. Maybe you turn on
• 1:53:11
  the diamond. Now we got a whold a tournament for the SmackDown Women's Championship,
• 1:53:15
  and that person takes on Bianca for the unified whatever, there's still that
• 1:53:18
  you can still have that fluidity, but still have some sort of larger framework
• 1:53:24
  of how these things operate and some larger ideas that you want to execute while
• 1:53:30
  still giving yourself the fluidity. Is obviously pivot depending on injury, crowd reaction
• 1:53:36
  or this, that and the third. That's the only thing I was just
• 1:53:39
  throwing out there. Okay, do you guys want to bring up anything else
• 1:53:46
  about pass drafts? I mean, think of some crazy draft picks. Do
• 1:53:53
  you guys remember when Curt Angle was drafted to ECW. That's a fucking crazy
• 1:54:00
  draft pick. U Also, fun fact, the ECW champion has been drafted
• 1:54:06
  to Monday Night Raw twice in WW history, and also for a short amount
• 1:54:14
  of times. Championship what's that was lastly one of them. Yeah. The
• 1:54:20
  United States Championship was also briefly became exclusive to ECW during the two thousand and
• 1:54:27
  eight draft. But yeah, yeah, lastly was the ECW champion. Yeah.
• 1:54:34
  Uh, let's that was a terrible title and the way that title ended
• 1:54:40
  that run. But yeah, I always thought too, like when when they
• 1:54:45
  draft the Kurt Angle to ECW, I'm like, uh, fucking exqueeze me,
• 1:54:51
  what did you just say? Kurt Angle being drafted to ECW. I
• 1:54:56
  get it, it was probably to try to elevate ECW, but uh,
• 1:55:00
  I think after that maybe he had after that his few of Shawn Michaels and
• 1:55:05
  then he left for a while. That's when he went and did his Impact
• 1:55:09
  wrestling bit. So you know that's kind of when he was on the down
• 1:55:13
  on his right well WW career. Uh you know John Cena coming back to
• 1:55:21
  going to RAW that was a huge deal, you know, and like we
• 1:55:26
  did mentioned like Batista being drafted to SmackDown, that was pretty big deal.
• 1:55:30
  Uh actually uh sorry sorry? Uh did actually appear in ECW before he ever
• 1:55:40
  appeared uh for WWE. Really he was Um, I think he did an
• 1:55:49
  in ring promo in ec WO. Uh. I don't remember who he was
• 1:55:57
  with. I want to say Tazz, but uh that kind of led him
• 1:56:03
  to the WWE because he did not enjoy his brief brief time in ECW.
• 1:56:12
  Yeah, because he was a Pittsburgh guy. ECW was Philly thing. H
• 1:56:16
  yeah, yeah, that's how he ended up. He had I think he
• 1:56:19
  I think he only appeared once. He did a promo and uh he hated
• 1:56:25
  it and he went to WWE and arrest. As they say, is history
• 1:56:31
  exactly. Uh, any other memorable draft moment you guys have, I mean
• 1:56:38
  I have brought up a bunch, you know, uh with the red and
• 1:56:43
  the blue shirts. Uh, some classic matches we've had, Uh, classic
• 1:56:48
  you know, drafts that will never be forgotten. Is there any that you
• 1:56:51
  guys can pick out? Do you remember? I'm not sure super a memorable
• 1:57:00
  drafted. The draft overall, it's never really been a super mememorable thing.
• 1:57:03
  And I mean it's kind of been more gimmicky than anything over the passing,
• 1:57:10
  I mean outside it was a novel concept at the beginning when they did the
• 1:57:15
  whole idea of the brand split thing, but over the years after that it
• 1:57:17
  just kind of became gimmicky. So there, I don't know if there was
• 1:57:23
  ever anything noteworthy. Like I said, some of the things that you brought
• 1:57:26
  up have been were done really cheesy, like Triple being drafted to SmackDown and
• 1:57:30
  then back to roll trily thereafter, or back to raw in the same night.
• 1:57:35
  It's just kind of been They've done something cheesy or gimmicky to try to
• 1:57:42
  get a reaction out of somebody, and then a lot of the other things
• 1:57:45
  have been virtually inconsequential. I think the and I think the only thing,
• 1:57:49
  the only reason why there's really in the interest in this year's draft is because
• 1:57:55
  of Triple H. And people are holding out faith that Triple H is going
• 1:58:00
  to actually do something of real substance and consequence, and the fact that he
• 1:58:06
  is already thrown out the idea that everybody on the roster is eligible. People
• 1:58:14
  are hoping that he actually delivers on that, and that Vince Man sits his
• 1:58:17
  asset down somewhere and shust the funk up and let's Triple H to its thing.
• 1:58:24
  It doesn't try to drafted onto a rocket heading towards the sun. Elon
• 1:58:30
  must rocket, because that one just blew up today. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:58:33
  I mean, there's been the the some I saw a I'll stressed this a
• 1:58:41
  rumor, a speculative rumor that the Triple H. The quote Triple H era
• 1:58:47
  will truly begin after this draft, like basically saying as if basically like the
• 1:58:54
  last you know, six to eight months or whatever, that Triple H has
• 1:58:58
  been doing the writing, it's basically been pregame and that he's really going to
• 1:59:01
  put his imprint on to WW and the roster and creative with this draft and
• 1:59:09
  some of the changes that he makes and stuff like that. So again,
• 1:59:13
  this is this is something that people are Again this is all resting on Triple
• 1:59:20
  H really as far as people's interests and investment, and you know, some
• 1:59:27
  of the goodwill that he's built up over the last couple of years. Over
• 1:59:30
  the last few months has been a bit shaken post WrestleMania with Vince's return and
• 1:59:34
  some of the things that have played out on television and a lot of speculation
• 1:59:39
  that Vince is starting to have his hand and think putting his hand back in
• 1:59:42
  the cookie jar. And this this draft could go a long way towards either
• 1:59:49
  restoring that faith with the audience or truly damaging it. Yeah, plays out
• 1:59:58
  that gets the freedom that he deserves and that you know, Vince doesn't come
• 2:00:04
  back and is like I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it
• 2:00:09
  any further. Yes, but I mean, let's if let's let's let's picture
• 2:00:20
  ourselves as uh, let's say teenagers. Right. Would you guys ever believe
• 2:00:26
  if I told you that d X would be running the company in twenty twenty
• 2:00:30
  three, they'd been making the big decisions. I'd be like, oh,
• 2:00:32
  yeah, Sean Michael's and Triple HS, you're gonna be running things, running
• 2:00:35
  an XT, running Brawl and SmackDown. You'd be like, no fucking way,
• 2:00:41
  no way d X would ever be running it. But guess what they
• 2:00:45
  do well back then? No, yeah, absolutely not back then. Back
• 2:00:50
  then, there you know the dirt. The internet wrestling community wasn't at least
• 2:00:56
  in my teenage years, they internet wrestling community wasn't so much of a thing.
• 2:01:00
  You know, you pretty much got your news from actual magazines and stuff
• 2:01:04
  like that. You know, there weren't there weren't these internet chat rooms and
• 2:01:10
  dirty's like that. We didn't have as much access to backstage or inside information
• 2:01:15
  in my teenage years, you know, the mid to late nineties. So
• 2:01:19
  no, we just took the storylines for what they were and we either liked
• 2:01:23
  him where we didn't like them. We had no concept of the click back.
• 2:01:28
  Then, well, with that, let's wrap up and roll into some
• 2:01:36
  news. Good news everyone, I have a lot of news. So if
• 2:01:53
  anybody's been hearing some things and rumbling about Goldberg, Goldberg recently has said Vince
• 2:02:00
  McMahon and I had a handshake understanding that after the Roman Reigns match that I
• 2:02:06
  would have a proper retirement match. But Ringside News reached out to confirm the
• 2:02:14
  story about Goldberg, we were told that nobody in WW is talking about Goldberg
• 2:02:18
  in a creative sense. We previously reported that Goldberg is not happy about the
• 2:02:24
  state of his retirement match. He is not very happy that WWE isn't going
• 2:02:28
  to give him the match that he wants. We were also told We were
• 2:02:31
  also told that word is going around that WW that Goldberg may might be going
• 2:02:39
  to aw and the story is also known that he might do his own self
• 2:02:43
  promoted retirement tour. At this point, no one in WW is talking about
• 2:02:48
  Goldberg and a creative sense. You know, he's just getting older and older.
• 2:02:56
  I don't, I don't, I don't know, I could really care,
• 2:02:59
  Like if Goldberg comes back, uh, you know, you're only as
• 2:03:02
  good as your last match, and his last few matches have not been good.
• 2:03:06
  Well, we didn't talk about this a couple of weeks ago, but
• 2:03:13
  back to EWS trying to sell out Wembley State trying to sell out eighty thousand
• 2:03:17
  and ninety thousand seeds at Wembley Stadium, and uh, you know, Goldberg's
• 2:03:23
  retirement match. Uh, might be a pretty nice thing to put on a
• 2:03:28
  card like that. You know, I don't think that's off the table,
• 2:03:31
  But I mean, does he fucking deserve that? I mean, he hit
• 2:03:36
  that great little run his first run, you know, the undefeated quote unquote
• 2:03:42
  undefeated streak uh through to beating Hogan at the Georgia Dome, Right, but
• 2:03:49
  like after that, he ended Brett's heart, He ended one of the greatest
• 2:03:54
  of all times Korea. He ended up Bret Harte's career. Uh. And
• 2:03:59
  like what has he ever done? You know? Like I mean, I
• 2:04:04
  guess he's a Hall of Famer or whatever. He's all, you know,
• 2:04:08
  but like he's just he was just there for you know, for my money.
• 2:04:14
  Anyway. I mean, I don't know that he deserves this whole you
• 2:04:16
  know, pomp and circumstance upon his retirement. I feel like he never really
• 2:04:21
  gave a shit about it anyway. You know, like Rick Flair lived and
• 2:04:27
  breathed and bled and you know professional wrestling. So if that guy wants to
• 2:04:32
  have seven retirement matches that spanned or Terry Funk, you know, wants to
• 2:04:39
  have a hundred retirement matches that spanned seven decades, whatever, let him have
• 2:04:43
  it. But this Goldberg, he's not He's not that, He's not that,
• 2:04:49
  but he is still one of the biggest names and wrestling history, whether
• 2:04:58
  you like him or not, or the talent aside, you can't talk about
• 2:05:02
  wrestling history without talking about Goldberg. You can't talk about one of the greatest
• 2:05:08
  eras, hold On hold On, can't talk about one of the greatest eras
• 2:05:13
  in wrestling history, the Monday Night Wars without talking about Goldberg. Regardless of
• 2:05:18
  whether he was you know, he we all know. He wasn't no Shawn
• 2:05:21
  Michaels in the ring. He wasn't no Ricky Steamboat in the ring. But
• 2:05:26
  he is still But neither was fucking Hulk Hogan, and he's still one of
• 2:05:30
  the biggest names and whole Cogan never got the ring brother. He was all
• 2:05:38
  Cogan outside of the ring, just as a personality. Bill Goldberg's Bill Goldberg
• 2:05:41
  outside of the ring as a personality too, Yeah, but there is no
• 2:05:45
  personality. There's something there because he gets work outside of the ring. Ric
• 2:05:50
  Flair is always he has like a knife show where like people, he still
• 2:06:00
  had it. He still had it. But regardlessly you go around and ask
• 2:06:06
  people about Goldberg. He is a known name. He is a known commodity.
• 2:06:12
  It doesn't matter how whether what people think of him, you know,
• 2:06:16
  the inside of wrestling, It doesn't matter where you have him ranked compared to
• 2:06:20
  the great performers and all stuff. He is still a name and that carries
• 2:06:26
  a lot in the wrestling business. It's the reason why Motherfucker's like Logan Paul
• 2:06:30
  can get dollars a pop top of dollars to go out there and rink because
• 2:06:35
  of their name. Before anybody ever saw him do a move, he had
• 2:06:39
  the name. That still means something. And Goldberg again is a significant part
• 2:06:45
  of wrestling history. So does he deserve Like am I saying that everybody needs
• 2:06:51
  to bow down at the altar of Goldberg for his retirement? No, I'm
• 2:06:55
  not necessarily saying that if he does a retirement tour. I don't give two
• 2:06:58
  shits about that if he jumps AW, okay, would depend on who.
• 2:07:03
  For I don't know that him jump into a w for a retirement match is
• 2:07:06
  gonna be worth a damn unless it's with somebody that he had already already has
• 2:07:12
  some sort of history with. He'd have to have like a retirement match would
• 2:07:15
  say a Chris Jericho, I think for it to carry any kind of weight,
• 2:07:18
  but it would still have the potential carry weight as you mentioned yourself in
• 2:07:23
  terms of aw potentially using his name to help sell out Wimbley Stadium, one
• 2:07:27
  of the largest stadiums in the world. So that that alone speaks to to
• 2:07:32
  go who Goldberg is and the and his the strength of his name. So
• 2:07:36
  does he deserve a retirement match? I kind of think yeah, I think
• 2:07:41
  I think he. I think he is deserving of a retirement match if he
• 2:07:45
  wants to have that now, if he wants to have it and have it
• 2:07:49
  matter the most and the biggest scale, then obviously he should do it in
• 2:07:53
  WWE. And you know, if there's one thing that I would allow Vince
• 2:07:58
  to step in and do, Yeah, Vince step in, smooth things over
• 2:08:01
  with Goldberg, get your retirement match, do it at one of the Saudi
• 2:08:05
  shows and then let him go off into the let him Goldberg right off in
• 2:08:09
  the sunset. What if he what if he was a heavy for MJF.
• 2:08:16
  What do you go over as an a W champion? Yeah, so anyway,
• 2:08:24
  a W champion and Goldberg is like what his his bodyguard or mentor bodyguard
• 2:08:30
  you know occasional, Uh, do anything that Goldberg could teach a m JF.
• 2:08:37
  No, but I mean not not in cafae not not right h But
• 2:08:43
  I mean obviously MJF is playing up to Judiaism hard. Uh. Goldberg obviously
• 2:08:52
  is a member of the tribe. I think I think there might be something
• 2:08:54
  there if they wanted to do that. Sure. I mean again, I
• 2:09:00
  think Goldberg could potentially have a decent quick run in the uh in aw sure
• 2:09:07
  if done right. I was just talking about it in terms of if he
• 2:09:09
  just went there for his retirement match. But if he actually wanted to have
• 2:09:13
  like a run and have like you know, sign a contract for like a
• 2:09:16
  year or two. Yeah, maybe he doesn't retirement match and he sticks around,
• 2:09:20
  right m hmm Goldberg versus m JF. You No, you have to
• 2:09:31
  ask Goldberg is he willing the job to MJF. No, no, no,
• 2:09:35
  not to get not not not not against each other with each other.
• 2:09:39
  No, No, I'm talking about what what Wayne said. He mentioned Goldberg
• 2:09:41
  versus m JF, and I'm like, no, I highly doubt Goldberg wants
• 2:09:46
  to lose in his retirement match. That's the thing. He's not the kind
• 2:09:50
  of guy that wants to go out on his back, which is what you're
• 2:09:52
  supposed to do right in the wrestling business. Yeah, yeah, if your
• 2:09:58
  job, if you're to get to lose, who are they gonna get to
• 2:10:01
  lose the Goldberg and Goldberg's retiring match? Like what does that do for anybody?
• 2:10:05
  Well, yeah, it goes. It depends on one of two ways.
• 2:10:09
  You you go out on your back if you're putting over somebody young,
• 2:10:13
  you know, but if you're just going out it comes back. That's what
• 2:10:16
  he should do. Well, I feel like that's not what he's going to
• 2:10:20
  want to do. Again. I think it depends on who it is.
• 2:10:22
  If it's just a retirement match, like hey, this is my last,
• 2:10:24
  you know, my last hurrah, then he can he can win. May
• 2:10:28
  mean, Rick Flair won his retirement matching even though it was a tag match,
• 2:10:31
  but he still won it um uh Ludha his retirement who's so called one
• 2:10:37
  of his retirement matches with what Shinska Knockamore? No, I think the back
• 2:10:41
  Knockamore won that match. He did, But I think it depends. It
• 2:10:46
  varies, and it depends on who the match is with. Again, I
• 2:10:50
  don't know that it makes sense for Goldberg to go to AW and have a
• 2:10:54
  retirement match putting over somebody there. I don't think that. I don't think
• 2:10:58
  that been if it's either party, I don't think that benefits him or benefit's
• 2:11:03
  a w And if he wants to go out on with a win, then
• 2:11:09
  he should be going out against somebody of his era or you know, a
• 2:11:16
  A A H. Another talent again from the same time, again, somebody
• 2:11:22
  like Jericho. It's probably about the only person I could see Cookberg wrestling in
• 2:11:26
  a retirement bash with. I don't know that. I know they have their
• 2:11:33
  history, but I'm just saying a name that's the only name in AW that
• 2:11:37
  makes sense. You're right, You're right, You're right. That's so true
• 2:11:41
  because I'm here racking my brain too. Who and really that could be the
• 2:11:48
  only person who could actually help carry that match to right. But to me
• 2:11:54
  though, to me the company, that's kind of true. Yeah, but
• 2:12:03
  honestly, get to me. The best option for Goldberg the table for taping
• 2:12:07
  match would be in WWE. And I know Triple Ah don't give two shits
• 2:12:11
  about it, Triples Like motherfucker. I'm focused on the future, an't worry
• 2:12:13
  about your old ass. You go do whatever you want. But this would
• 2:12:18
  be a place for Vince McMahon to come in and spook some things over if
• 2:12:24
  they wanted to do that. But I think ww is good either way.
• 2:12:28
  Yeah, it let's not forget about that that wonderful Saudi match you had against
• 2:12:31
  the Undertaker. It left a lot of emotional damnage. It definitely did.
• 2:12:39
  Let's move on, h okay. So, under Vince McMahon's reign of terror,
• 2:12:46
  WWE talent was banned from using third party companies such as Twitch. This
• 2:12:52
  didn't sit well with a lot of talent as it was another way for them
• 2:12:56
  to earn money and interact with fans. According to research reports from Full Select,
• 2:13:00
  WWE is now agreed to let its talent once again use the streaming platform.
• 2:13:05
  The reports slated stated wrestlers will be allowed to stream with almost no restrictions.
• 2:13:11
  One thing that will not be allowed, however, is streaming with other
• 2:13:16
  promotions other promotions personally without it being cleared. A three way revenue split has
• 2:13:26
  been agreed between Twitch, WW and the wrestler, with Twitch and the wrestler
• 2:13:31
  getting the majority or the vast majority, and the talent's really happy about this.
• 2:13:37
  So we're gonna see the likes of Selena Vega bringing back her Twitch channel
• 2:13:41
  AJ Styles. Back when Adam Cole was part of WWE, he also had
• 2:13:46
  a Twitch channel. A couple of wrestlers. I don't know if they already
• 2:13:54
  own well Up, Up, Down Down is part of WW so I would
• 2:13:58
  assume that's that's a completely separate thing with the Xavier Woods, right, So
• 2:14:05
  I'm just happy to see that they're allowed to do that. I don't know
• 2:14:09
  if they're gonna be using their actual names or because I know there was at
• 2:14:15
  one point they weren't allowed to use their real name or their gimmick names.
• 2:14:18
  They were had to use their real names, so who knows. Uh,
• 2:14:22
  it's just good news. I'm happy to hear that on a department where WWE
• 2:14:28
  has been woefully behind the times with that kind of shit and a w has
• 2:14:35
  certainly hum surpassed them by leaps and bounds, you know. Um, they've
• 2:14:45
  they've tried to do a little better that some of that, some of the
• 2:14:48
  Dom Ray ruining Holidays social media stuff was good. Uh, but they need
• 2:14:56
  to realize that that there's other ways and expanding ways, you know, for
• 2:15:05
  for to interact with content and characters and actors and musicians and everything and pro
• 2:15:13
  wrestlers, uh, you know, and it's just stupid if if they want
• 2:15:20
  to regulate it. I get that, you know what I mean. You
• 2:15:24
  have to be in character, you have to use your name, I get
• 2:15:28
  that, and I know whatever. But they're just they're they're just they're foolish,
• 2:15:35
  uh, not to allow them to do this other thing. I mean,
• 2:15:39
  I mean that's kind of one of the coolest things about wrestling, right
• 2:15:43
  Like, uh, you know, if you see Tom Cruise on the sidewalk,
• 2:15:50
  you don't see Maverick, you know what I mean. You see Tom
• 2:15:52
  Cruise, who's also been a million other things or whatever. But if you
• 2:15:54
  see Rick Flair, you see Rick Flair, you know what I mean,
• 2:16:00
  even though he isn't Rick Flair, he is Ric Flair. Uh. And
• 2:16:03
  it's just such a it's it's just it's such a bizarre thing that it even
• 2:16:09
  exists at all, you know, but they would be so they'd just be
• 2:16:13
  foolish to not allow them to. If they want to play video games with
• 2:16:16
  people, fucking let them let them, you know what I mean, Like
• 2:16:22
  because people who don't know them as wrestlers might bring more eyes cast a why
• 2:16:31
  you know, they want that's part of the logan politic, you know.
• 2:16:35
  They they want to cast as wide and that as possible. And and they're
• 2:16:41
  cutting the net in half, you know, or in a third or whatever,
• 2:16:46
  you know, by not including some of this other stuff. And I
• 2:16:50
  don't get it. You won't catch me on Twitch. I don't know what
• 2:16:52
  I mean. I'm not into it. But I know the next generation is
• 2:16:58
  you know what I mean, and next two generations, and I know that
• 2:17:03
  that that's what you want to keep watching, you know, right, Yeah,
• 2:17:07
  it's just it it's stupid not to let them do that kind of thing.
• 2:17:13
  Or there's so much precedent for it. Let look at going back to
• 2:17:16
  like Zach Ryder with the Internet or whatever, or even even up to today
• 2:17:24
  with like Dan Housing. He's not a great wrestler or anything, but the
• 2:17:28
  fucking guy gets out on social media and he's one of the most popular fucking
• 2:17:33
  wrestlers out, you know, because he because he's connected in the fans in
• 2:17:37
  a way that didn't exist in the eighties or even into the most of the
• 2:17:43
  nineties, you know, or even fucking so recently. Really uh where these
• 2:17:50
  internet Internet personality is part of it. And I and I kind of like
• 2:17:54
  when they continue feuds on Twitter or whatever and people bad math or whatever,
• 2:17:58
  that's fun and they need to do more of that, and it makes it
• 2:18:03
  reeler, you know, it makes it easier to suspend disbelief when you see
• 2:18:09
  somebody commenting on, oh I saw this really great movie blah blah blah,
• 2:18:11
  and the person they're feuding with comments like, you're an idiot if you let
• 2:18:16
  that or what you know, whatever it is. Yeah, that's just makes
• 2:18:20
  feel more more visceral. I'm sure what they banned, uh you know,
• 2:18:26
  Twitch from these other wrestlers, I'm sure they've they've realized it was at this
• 2:18:33
  moment that he knew he fucked up. Yeah, yeah, so I think
• 2:18:37
  it was a wise decision to make an agreement with Twitch, make agreement with
• 2:18:41
  the wrestlers and make everybody fucking happy. And I'm pretty sure Triples probably had
• 2:18:46
  a big part in that too. And there's money to be made for everyone,
• 2:18:50
  you know, that's another thing. Fine, use your use your gimmick
• 2:18:54
  name, use your gimmick license, give us twenty percent or whatever it is.
• 2:18:58
  You know, like everybody makes money, you know, like it's just
• 2:19:03
  so supernato. Yeah, I mean, and in this day and age,
• 2:19:07
  like you said, they have been, ww's been woefully behind the times and
• 2:19:11
  not recognizing that they're superstars, are brands unto themselves. Not just you don't
• 2:19:18
  completely own these people the way you did back in the day. Not in
• 2:19:22
  this not in this Internet age, not in this age of social media where
• 2:19:26
  you know, one of your one of the most popular people on the WW
• 2:19:33
  roster outside of it, outside of their main roster, is Nikita Lyons,
• 2:19:39
  who has a huge following on Instagram. Not just because not because she's being
• 2:19:46
  featured on NXT every week, or not because she's you know, winning a
• 2:19:50
  championship. No, it's because, quite frankly, on Instagram, she's a
• 2:19:56
  fucking thirst trap. And I don't mean to say that. I don't mean
• 2:19:58
  to say that in a disparaging way. But as attractive as she is,
• 2:20:03
  she garners a huge social media following, just like Jay Cargill does in aw
• 2:20:09
  They have these huge social media followings. And for you to sit here and
• 2:20:13
  try to limit your superstars from being able to branch out outside of you,
• 2:20:20
  or for you to want to completely own and monopolize everything that they do,
• 2:20:26
  you're, like you said, You're only hurting yourself. Allow these people to
• 2:20:31
  be who they are, Allow them to interact with their fans in more natural
• 2:20:35
  and organic ways through things like Twitch and such. Allow these people to fully
• 2:20:39
  be who they are so that they can reach an audience that you, quite
• 2:20:43
  frankly will not be able to reach through just raw and SmackDown and pls.
• 2:20:50
  Let them reach other fans and then draw those fans into your product. People
• 2:20:56
  like Zelina Vega has been able to has a pretty strong following in the nerd
• 2:21:03
  community because of her being such a huge nerd and her having crossover opportunities through
• 2:21:09
  her her being a huge anime fan, and her doing the cosplay that she
• 2:21:15
  does with some of her wrestling attire. Where she showed up to at the
• 2:21:22
  World Run With this year where she was dressed as the street Fighter character jury,
• 2:21:24
  and now she's being featured in street Fighter six. I think she's getting
• 2:21:30
  it. She's got a voice role in that where she's gonna be like one
• 2:21:31
  of the so called announcers I believe in street Fighter six, and it's that
• 2:21:37
  level of crossover that boosts that. Yes, it helps her individually as a
• 2:21:41
  brand, but that's some of that is also going to bleed over to WWE
• 2:21:46
  because people are gonna see her and they're gonna know, oh, that's WWE
• 2:21:50
  Superstars Lena Vega. It's kind of like the old saying, a rising tide
• 2:21:54
  lifts all all ships. The more you allow these people to branch outside of
• 2:21:58
  you and experience success outside of just raw SmackDown to pls, the more that
• 2:22:09
  will eventually come back home to you. And it doesn't hurt to allow these
• 2:22:15
  people to, you know, to make money outside of you. Maybe they'll
• 2:22:20
  be more they'll be less disgruntled. Maybe when you end up doing something that
• 2:22:26
  they may not like because they're not as reliant on you, they may be
• 2:22:30
  more willing to put up with some other things that you do because like,
• 2:22:33
  hey, I have more I have freedom here. I can do these things
• 2:22:35
  even if I'm not being featured on TV at the moment, I can.
• 2:22:39
  You know, I still got my other ventures in that I can be involved
• 2:22:45
  in. And you know, unfortunately, professional wrestlers don't have a union,
• 2:22:50
  so their their bargaining power is very much limited. And think for a long
• 2:22:58
  time this is one of the areas where it's hurt them because if professional wrestlers
• 2:23:03
  did have a union, then you know, some shit like what ww polled
• 2:23:09
  years ago when they banned their superstars from Twitch would have never happened because they
• 2:23:13
  would have had the power of a union to you know, nix that in
• 2:23:18
  the butt or you know, they'd have the ability to collectively bargain and negotiate
• 2:23:22
  things like this rather than just relying on the good graces of WWE management.
• 2:23:33
  Well, guys, things evolved too, you know, like you look just
• 2:23:39
  you know, watch a match from WrestleMania whatever three or whatever. You know,
• 2:23:46
  just the entire presentation is completely different almost and as much as it's still
• 2:23:50
  too people pretending to fight in front of an audience, it's totally different.
• 2:23:54
  The whole way it's done is different. And you know, and now you
• 2:24:01
  know, in as much as we see angles bleeding out into the Internet,
• 2:24:05
  into the social media's or whatever. Also, characters like like Hulk Hogan is
• 2:24:11
  a two dimensional character, you know what I mean. You see him on
• 2:24:15
  TV, you see him in person. He's big, he's he does one
• 2:24:18
  thing. He is Hulk Hogan. That's all he does. Now he's in
• 2:24:24
  to see in a third and fourth and fifth mentioned where you can interact with
• 2:24:28
  these people on social media. You can maybe play video games with them on
• 2:24:33
  Twitch or whatever it is. Uh, it's a whole different concept of and
• 2:24:41
  you and you kind of feel like maybe I kind of know the real person,
• 2:24:46
  not just the character. Whereas you know, we didn't know shit about
• 2:24:50
  the undertake car, you know what I mean, right right back and back
• 2:24:56
  in the day, like you said, Hulk Hogan was Hulk Hogan. That
• 2:24:58
  was it. That's all we saw, That's all we knew of. Nowadays,
• 2:25:01
  we know that these people exist outside of Wwe we know that these are
• 2:25:07
  real people with real lives. And it's not only is it just a whole
• 2:25:13
  different dimension to the whole, the whole thing, the whole, the entirety
• 2:25:18
  that is a professional wrestling, Uh. But I mean it's a it's a
• 2:25:24
  it's adds to the character work, but it's it's just more opportunity to make
• 2:25:28
  money and more revenues, you know, more streams, And it just baffles
• 2:25:33
  me that they don't want to do that, right, And it's it's ways
• 2:25:37
  for you to find your next suit and allowing these people to exist outside of
• 2:25:41
  just the WWE product on television gives you another way to find your next superstars
• 2:25:48
  without relying just on what happens on television. Again, there there are there
• 2:25:54
  you can again people like Zelina Vega or Nikita Lions and such like that.
• 2:26:01
  They're able to build up followings outside of the WWE product that in turn can
• 2:26:09
  translate back to the product on television eventually. But like that, I allow
• 2:26:16
  them them. For you to put limits on these people and what they can
• 2:26:20
  do, you're putting shackles on your own product in a way. Well,
• 2:26:24
  now, now, the entirety of the whole business, the whole way the
• 2:26:28
  whole business works, is totally different. You know. Back in the day,
• 2:26:33
  the entirety of the thing was to sell out Madison Square of Garden once
• 2:26:39
  a month, right, and then then it progressed to like, uh,
• 2:26:43
  oh, make you buy the pay per view four times a year. Uh
• 2:26:46
  And then it progressed Jesus Christ. The content blow up came, but um,
• 2:27:01
  I totally forgot. Yeah. I mean, I'm always gonna side with
• 2:27:07
  the with the players over management. Yeahs. So you know, anything that's
• 2:27:13
  gonna benefit for the ww superstars, and it helped them monetize themselves outside of
• 2:27:20
  just relying on a w W paycheck. I'm all four mm hmm. I
• 2:27:28
  can't remember when I was going a few more things for news. I'm just
• 2:27:33
  gonna rapid fire some of these, um because then maybe not like talk discussions.
• 2:27:39
  Chris Strates reveals that she fought through a partial hamstring tear at wrestleman Any
• 2:27:43
  thirty nine. While speaking on a recent episode of Busted Open Radio, WW
• 2:27:48
  Hall of Famer Chris Strates revealed that she worked at the six man or six
• 2:27:52
  woman tag match at wrestlem A thirty nine injured. She said, I had
• 2:27:56
  a few obstacles, a partially torn hamstring. By the way, nobody knew
• 2:28:01
  about it. It was just like WrestleMania. Let's just go. Uh.
• 2:28:07
  WWE breaks record with SummerSlam ticket sales, according to a report from Sports Business
• 2:28:13
  Journal, where thirty two thousand tickets have already been sold for SummerSlam. This
• 2:28:18
  is now the largest day one sale for the stadium event outside of WrestleMania in
• 2:28:24
  the company's history. That's good to hear. It's really good to hear.
• 2:28:28
  Update. Major update in Roman Reigins booking. We haven't seen Roman Rains in
• 2:28:33
  a hot minute. Current WWE booking plans call for the Undispeed Universal Champion Roman
• 2:28:39
  Rains to skip back last twenty twenty three, with his next title scheduled or
• 2:28:48
  defense scheduled for twenty seventh of May, the Night of Champions event instead.
• 2:28:56
  A thousandth day. Yep, ye, one thousand, yep. He's gonna
• 2:29:01
  defends whoever he's gonna face. He's gonna beat. He'll still be the champion.
• 2:29:05
  WWE planning. Oh go ahead, Oh no, that was it,
• 2:29:09
  just hell. He'll wrestle that day, He'll be to wherever he's facing,
• 2:29:13
  and he'll still be champion. Big whoop. Yeah. WWE planning heel turn
• 2:29:18
  for SmackDown Superstars. During the Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer explaining that Madcap
• 2:29:24
  Moss is on his way to for a heel turn. This is interesting because
• 2:29:28
  Emma is already playing the part of a heel on the roster as she leads
• 2:29:31
  him to the ring. Update on Becky Lynch's contract status uncertain for the WW
• 2:29:39
  future. Becky Lynch didn't appear on last night's episode of Raw and actually tweet
• 2:29:45
  apt before the show letting fans know fight Fightful. Select have now been able
• 2:29:50
  to provide an update regarding the current contract situation. Lynch has not renewed or
• 2:29:56
  signed a new contract with her existing on track up in June twenty twenty four.
• 2:30:03
  Uh, I feel like that's maybe all I have. Update on King
• 2:30:09
  of the Ring King and Queen of the Ring tournaments. According to p W
• 2:30:13
  Insider Elite, WW has yet to decide on if the King of the Ring
• 2:30:18
  and Queen of the Ring is still take place at Night of Champions, but
• 2:30:22
  on one source thought it was less likely with the tournament possibly being slotted in
• 2:30:28
  for after the upcoming WW draft. Nothing is set in stone yet, speaking
• 2:30:35
  of many prediction go for it, Bold, just fuck do it? The
• 2:30:41
  Uzos are facing Ko and Sammy Zane for the titles. Yeah right? When
• 2:30:50
  does that happen? Uh SmackDown? Or is that raw supposed to be?
• 2:30:56
  I think it's supposed to be A yeah. I don't either SmackDown a row.
• 2:30:58
  It's not even a man on a payview. This is my affection.
• 2:31:05
  I think I know what it is. The users are going to win the
• 2:31:07
  titles because because ahead, yeah Sammy Zane doesn't appear in Saudi Arabia and it's
• 2:31:18
  Night of Champions and you have to have all the championships defended. Yeah,
• 2:31:24
  I've heard that speculation too, you know, with them being Tag Champions and
• 2:31:28
  supposed lead them switching the Saudi show to being Nighter Champions, and the general
• 2:31:31
  concept behind Night of Champions is that every title is defended. How are you
• 2:31:37
  going to defend the tag titles with two superstars holding the belts who don't appear
• 2:31:41
  at Saudi shows. So yeah, a lot of people have speculated that they're
• 2:31:45
  going to drop the belts somehow before that show, which I will say would
• 2:31:52
  be very disappointing if you went through all of this, it did all this
• 2:31:58
  work of building them up, just for them to drop the belts not even
• 2:32:05
  three months later, like that guy that screams like old nineties booking where titles
• 2:32:11
  just jumped all over the place all the damn time. I would be rather
• 2:32:15
  disappointing. But at the same time, and less, Sammy Zane and Kevin
• 2:32:20
  Owens have drastically changed their stance on things, which I we don't have any
• 2:32:26
  reason to believe that they have, yeah, and we I don't see how
• 2:32:31
  they go down that route and less again, either they write in some sort
• 2:32:37
  of injury angle to write them out of actions, or they can't defend the
• 2:32:43
  titles, or if they just somehow renigg on the concept of Night of Champions
• 2:32:48
  and they defend and all the belts are on the line except the text,
• 2:32:54
  that's certainly within the realm of posibility, that would not be unprecedented for uh,
• 2:33:01
  for WW to just I don't yeah, because I just don't think yeah,
• 2:33:05
  I don't think they want to take the titles off of KO and Sammy's
• 2:33:07
  saying that quickly, and especially not to just put them right back onto USOS
• 2:33:13
  because you because then you're you're right back in the same rut that you were
• 2:33:18
  in going into wrestle media times, being monopolized by the same people all over
• 2:33:22
  again. Now you got to do the whole work all over again of trying
• 2:33:26
  to build up another team to take the titles off the USOS. And I
• 2:33:31
  am one of my one of my potential draft picks. And I don't know
• 2:33:33
  if this fixes the problem or not, but uh, since you have the
• 2:33:39
  unified tag team champions and one as a raw guy and one is the SmackDown
• 2:33:43
  guy, I actually had them splitting them up and one having to take one
• 2:33:48
  title and finding a new partner, and the other one having to take the
• 2:33:52
  one title and finding a new partner on their own shows, whichever it is.
• 2:33:56
  If it I think, I guess it would go Sammy to Raw and
• 2:34:00
  to SmackDown. Now, didn't we just that would be a way to maybe
• 2:34:05
  get around that, and maybe you only have one of the tag titles defended,
• 2:34:11
  or you have some kind of tournament to figure out who the new partner
• 2:34:15
  is going to be until you don't need to have Sammy's ain't there in person.
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  But that's a stretch, that's a big stretch, because didn't we just
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  didn't we just uh rent in our discord about how we didn't like trick Stratus
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  just being a tag team champion and a match just without having actually win the
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  belt but she's fighting to defend it, and how they did that as well.
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  Yeah, just went off about that. But now we're just gonna split
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  the bells and like, go find a partner and they're the new champion and
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  hold a tournament to be a one half of a tag champion, like,
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  and we just rail against how the women's tag team divisions just a bunch of
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  random people thrown the fuck together. But now we're gonna double down on it
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  with the raud SmackDown. You got me, That's why I didn't make the
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  final cut. That's why it was. That's why that idea he hit the
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  count the cutting room flo even though I didn't say that lout anyway. Well,
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  did you guys have any other news you want to put in? That's
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  all I got. Nope, nope, I think that's pretty much only things
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  of substance that you know. When we were talking about the judgment day,
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  I meant to say, do you hear about how Finn Balor apparently has like
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  a second degree tearor of his calf or something brutal ass injury and he and
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  he did that hell in the Seal match anyway, and then he was or
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  he was involved in wrestling a Night one, then he did that hell in
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  the Seal match, and then he's been on Raw every week. It's just
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  like Jesus fucking nice dude, I got four staples. Yeah, well,
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  that would explain why he hasn't been wrestling much in why it's been Domin Damien
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  doing most of the wrestling since WrestleMania. Yeah. Yeah, But the fact
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  that he's even out there at all, it's like, God, damn,
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  how are you walking without a limp? You know? Trade? Do you
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  have anything you want to plug? Uh? Nothing of note, y'all can
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  just find me in the discord Outlaw Star Doyle and you want to plug.
• 2:36:33
  Yeah, you know, I'm I'm in the discord. But I would like
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  to say go bees, go Seas and get well, saying nick I.
• 2:36:43
  Right before we go, I just want to kind of announce some news.
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  The past few days, I've been working with somebody on making a website for
• 2:36:52
  us. So within the next maybe two weeks, we'll have a website for
• 2:36:58
  podcasts where fully we can put all the links in there. All the episodes
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  will be on there for people who don't know if they can get it on
• 2:37:09
  Spotify or Apple or wherever they want to download. All the links will be
• 2:37:11
  there. I'm also going to see about getting a link for the discord also
• 2:37:16
  a question section, So you guys can write in questions to the podcast and
• 2:37:22
  then we'll have a section. Well, we'll answer some of them, and
• 2:37:26
  then if you haven't leave a review, let's get some reviews done if you
• 2:37:31
  haven't yet. Yeah, and if you need to reach me anywhere, just
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  to semi dry Chicken, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Twitch, and I
• 2:37:41
  get to keep all my own ad revenue for Twitch. It's nothing, but
• 2:37:46
  if there was, I'd be able to keep it. I won't have to
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  split it with Vince McMahon. Yeah, Dre got something for you. Your
• 2:37:58
  name out of out of your mouth and his name is John. Do what
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  I want, get me what I Watch's true, it's it doesn't matter what
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  your name. Oh yeah, let's screw you guys. I'm going home by
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  half A great time