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Why California Pays A Weather Tax On Gas And Cars · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:08
  Don Armstrong: Well, thank you very much for the applause and welcome to the In Real Time Car Talk Show.
• 0:14
  Don Armstrong: Auto personality and journalist Jack Nierad joins us from the left coast to talk about the price of gas out there.
• 0:22
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 0:22
  Don Armstrong: Gotta go fund me for him.
• 0:24
  Don Armstrong: And um is I drove this jealousy segment along with California politics.
• 0:31
  Don Armstrong: We're gonna talk about all of it.
• 0:33
  Don Armstrong: He doesn't know any of this yet, but we're gonna talk to him about it.
• 0:37
  Don Armstrong: In Jeff's car culture, tires that glow.
• 0:40
  Don Armstrong: And Mars Mother's Day Texas weekend getaway to drop her off.
• 0:46
  Don Armstrong: Happy mother-in-law.
• 0:48
  Don Armstrong: Howdy, along with Mike out of this world Mars.
• 0:50
  Don Armstrong: We always need more Jeff Zeken, Chief Engineer David Ainsley.
• 0:53
  Don Armstrong: I'm Don Armstrong.
• 0:54
  Don Armstrong: Glad that you could join us on this Saturday morning for our live gift to America.
• 0:59
  Don Armstrong: We certainly appreciate it.
• 1:02
  Don Armstrong: I'm full of it this morning, aren't I?
• 1:04
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, your eyes are brown.
• 1:05
  Don Armstrong: Up to here, your eyes are brown.
• 1:06
  Don Armstrong: I got it all razzed up this morning.
• 1:08
  Don Armstrong: He is razzed up.
• 1:09
  Don Armstrong: He's been razzed since I've been here.
• 1:11
  Don Armstrong: So uh do we have Jack with us yet?
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_01: Patiently standing in the green room.
• 1:16
  Don Armstrong: Let's let's just there he is.
• 1:19
  Don Armstrong: Ladies and gentlemen, the famous, the one, the only, Jack Knee Red.
• 1:24
  Don Armstrong: The man, the man, the myth, the legend, the guy that is going to get into the governor's race in California here away.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to foul that up.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: I think we got a shot here.
• 1:34
  Don Armstrong: So and guess whose show he's on?
• 1:39
  Don Armstrong: Our show.
• 1:40
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 1:40
  Don Armstrong: The next governor of the state of California, Jack Knee Red.
• 1:43
  Don Armstrong: Jack, how are you, buddy?
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_03: I am terrific.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_03: I am terrific.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so glad to talk to you guys.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's always a pleasure.
• 1:48
  Don Armstrong: Well, it's it's a it's a it's a brief moment to get out of all of that mess that you guys have got going on out there.
• 1:55
  Don Armstrong: My God.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_03: It is crazy.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is.
• 1:59
  Don Armstrong: And you can and you continue to live there.
• 2:02
  Don Armstrong: I'm thinking that if you stay there long enough, the price of your house is going to go down to nothing.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, oddly, the uh housing prices keep going up and up and up, and you know, my house has been a pretty good investment, so that's good.
• 2:16
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, we pay a gigantic weather tax here.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_03: That's the way I look at it.
• 2:20
  Don Armstrong: Uh a weather tax.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_03: We have great weather and uh we pay for it with everything else.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_03: All the crazy.
• 2:28
  Don Armstrong: I will tell you this uh uh there's something I don't know what it is that draws me to California.
• 2:33
  Don Armstrong: I've always loved California, haven't spent tons of time in LA, but uh San Diego has a special place in my heart, and so does San Francisco.
• 2:43
  Don Armstrong: Every time I've been there, it's been wonderful.
• 2:44
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_03: So beautiful place, beautiful place.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_03: We drove up the coast last weekend to visit my daughter, uh, who lives in San Luis Obispo.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_03: So we got to see the uh southern coast, the central coast.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's a gorgeous state.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_03: There's no doubt about that.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's a great place to visit.
• 3:00
  Don Armstrong: Well, let's talk about cars.
• 3:02
  Don Armstrong: Uh anything uh new on the agenda?
• 3:04
  Don Armstrong: Well, I'm gonna back up.
• 3:06
  Don Armstrong: First of all, how much are you paying for a regular tank of gas out there?
• 3:10
  Don Armstrong: Let's go buy the gallon.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_03: It's about$650, something like that.
• 3:15
  Jeff Dziekan: You know, it's so if you want to contribute to Jack's GoFundMe page, here's the address.
• 3:21
  Don Armstrong: Oh my god,$650.
• 3:23
  Don Armstrong: Well, I thought it was a good one.
• 3:27
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, I was gonna say, well, it's uh$350 here.
• 3:30
  Don Armstrong: Just uh not to make you jealous or anything, but you know, and the funny thing about it is is that you guys make gasoline out there.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we haven't, but we and there is so much oil off the coast you just can't stand it, but nobody is willing to touch that.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody even even talks about that anymore.
• 3:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, your your politicians are pretty oily and greasy out there.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_03: So you know, there you go.
• 3:54
  Don Armstrong: That's it.
• 3:55
  Don Armstrong: All right, well, so what are you driving this week?
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_03: I am driving a Volvo V60 cross country, which is a terrific vehicle.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it is so fun to drive.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, I got into this thing about four or five days ago.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_03: I actually attended a Volvo event where they were showing the EX60, uh, which is gonna going to be their latest uh electric vehicle.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_03: I think that was uh a little earlier or this past week.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_03: Drove it up there to see that, and I just love this vehicle.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's just terrific.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't know, you guys probably have that journalistic disease of loving station wagons.
• 4:35
  Don Armstrong: Oh, yeah.
• 4:35
  Don Armstrong: I do Jeff especially in my life.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I do, and uh one of my first cars was a station wagon, actually.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_03: And and uh, you know, this is just a terrific, fun-to-drive little station wagon.
• 4:47
  Don Armstrong: So did that third row did it look out the back window?
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the station wagon I had was uh you guys might remember it, the uh AMC Hornet Sport About Wagon.
• 5:00
  Don Armstrong: I'm sorry.
• 5:01
  Don Armstrong: Close relationship.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, you know, all of the bubble top.
• 5:06
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 5:07
  Don Armstrong: Well, that's that's that's good to know, Jack.
• 5:10
  Don Armstrong: But something's fitting about that.
• 5:11
  Don Armstrong: I don't know.
• 5:12
  Don Armstrong: Are you an AMC and a station wagon?
• 5:14
  Don Armstrong: It works.
• 5:15
  Don Armstrong: No, I don't see it.
• 5:16
  Don Armstrong: No, okay.
• 5:17
  Don Armstrong: It's just me again.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, 22 years old and driving that thing.
• 5:20
  Don Armstrong: So nice.
• 5:21
  Don Armstrong: What you know, it's funny because uh I don't get any Volvos.
• 5:24
  Don Armstrong: I used to get Volvos, I don't know whether they're not in the press fleet or they don't like me or whatever, but I'll be both that it could be.
• 5:34
  Don Armstrong: Um, so what is it that you have gone on a junket, car junket somewhere, or that you've had in the press fleet that really impresses you besides the Volvo?
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_03: This is going to sound weird, maybe, but uh, you know, I was on a uh Toyota event recently driving the new all-electric Toyota CHR.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_03: And it is cool.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it is so cool.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_03: I wondered why they called it CHR.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, because I uh you guys probably had the same opinion about the previous CHR that we did on America on the Road.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of okay car, but certainly nothing special.
• 6:13
  SPEAKER_03: This is kind of special in its own way.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know who buys performance electrics.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_03: I I still think that's kind of a mythical unicorn kind of market, but uh this was a fun-to-drive vehicle.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_03: It was terrific.
• 6:26
  Don Armstrong: What what size is it?
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_03: Uh it's the same size as the previous CHR, which is uh, you know, they call it a small SUV.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_03: I would call it more like a hot hatch kind of vehicle.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_03: Subcompact is too small or it's probably compact, uh, you know, close to compact adjacent anyway.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_03: It might be subcompact, uh, but uh pretty roomy because you know, electrics are roomy inside, and uh generally uh fun to drive, more fun to drive than you would guess.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_03: Plenty of horsepower, tons of horsepower.
• 6:56
  Don Armstrong: Well, I I recently drove the uh the brand new Subaru.
• 7:02
  Don Armstrong: What was that thing?
• 7:03
  Don Armstrong: I don't remember.
• 7:05
  Don Armstrong: It's it's the new Subaru all electric.
• 7:08
  Don Armstrong: It's small, and I was thoroughly impressed with it.
• 7:12
  Don Armstrong: Uh and it it's funny because you know, we get we get kind of cantankerous and snooty about the cars that we drive.
• 7:21
  Don Armstrong: Ah, it's just another car.
• 7:22
  Don Armstrong: But every once in a while there is that one car that comes along and goes, that this is cool.
• 7:29
  Don Armstrong: And uh from Subaru of all places.
• 7:32
  Jeff Dziekan: That's the one we were I I sat in last was it last week or the week before the transmission tunnel, which is no transmission tunnel, but it was raised up.
• 7:40
  Jeff Dziekan: It re kind of when I sat in it, it fitted like a Hummer because it's got the high uh center console, is what it reminded me of, sitting deep into the car.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_03: That's what that are we talking about the Soltera?
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_03: Is that what you were driving?
• 7:55
  Don Armstrong: No looking at it.
• 7:57
  Don Armstrong: You know, it it's uncharted.
• 8:00
  Don Armstrong: The uncharted the uncharted Subaru.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_03: I like that.
• 8:03
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, have have you not you have not driven it yet?
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_03: I have not.
• 8:08
  Don Armstrong: I'm I'm truly surprised.
• 8:10
  Don Armstrong: It's not on his chart, yeah.
• 8:12
  Don Armstrong: Exactly.
• 8:14
  Don Armstrong: Subaru Uncharted.
• 8:16
  Don Armstrong: And uh this is a brand new thing from from Subaru.
• 8:20
  Don Armstrong: It's very small, uh, but um it is fun.
• 8:24
  Don Armstrong: You don't even think that you're driving an EV.
• 8:27
  Don Armstrong: And man, I'm telling you, you mash that accelerator pedal, it's gonna throw you back in the seat from a Subaru.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_03: There you go.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I it might be a close cousin of the CHR because Subaru and Toyota uh cooperate on their EVs.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_03: So we might be talking about darn near the same vehicle, yeah.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_03: Probably.
• 8:44
  Don Armstrong: And probably so.
• 8:45
  Don Armstrong: Well, um, so besides the politics, Jack, um, have you been any place that's fun?
• 8:53
  Don Armstrong: Uh car companies get to fly Jack all over the United States, and uh and you know, he he gets to visit the cool places most of the time.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_03: Some of the cool places.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, most of the uh the car trips I've been on recently have been local uh that I've driven to as opposed to flown to.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_03: And to tell you the truth, I prefer that.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, you know, because I can zip in when I want to and zip out when I want to.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not at the at the mercy of airplane schedules and stuff like that.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_03: Uh on on Monday, however, I'm flying across the country to Savannah uh to uh spend some time with Hyundai looking at uh their giant EV factory, which will now build things beyond EVs.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_03: I think it's probably doing that before, outside uh Savannah there, and uh, you know, generally have a good time driving electric vehicles, seeing how they work.
• 9:45
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, and and do you get thrown into a car with somebody that you don't know?
• 9:50
  Don Armstrong: And when you get out of the car after driving with them, you go, you know, I I could probably have done better on my own.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I frequently like to do those on my own.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_03: Typically, we have a driving partner.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of times I will look at the guest list or you know, kind of survey the the And then you see a Don Armstrong on you going, Oh no.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_03: And I I'm always looking for the person who won't kill me, right?
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's that's kind of job one.
• 10:19
  Don Armstrong: And you know, it's funny, it's funny because journalists today, so many of them influencers, really have never experienced any of this.
• 10:26
  Don Armstrong: They don't have any kind of etiquette when it comes to a partner in the front car.
• 10:30
  Don Armstrong: Let's see how fast we can go around the corner or slam on the brakes or do crazy things, and we don't do that as journalists typically.
• 10:39
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 10:39
  Don Armstrong: Do you experience it that way too?
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_03: I've seen that.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_03: I, you know, luckily I have survived all of this.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_03: There were there were some times uh back in my motor trend days, uh, really hair-raising kind of times when we were driving across Europe and I'd be with a driving partner who thought he was a Formula One driver and wanted to show it and you know, treated everything like the Nerber ring.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um it uh happily I have not run into that so much lately.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I probably young people who want to go really fast don't want to drive with an old guy like me.
• 11:10
  Don Armstrong: Well, you know that's that that's that's funny because uh I have been on some junkets that uh you know the actual professional driver that is uh given to me in the car, and I'm sure that you've been on those, um they're they're saying to me, uh punch it.
• 11:28
  Don Armstrong: You know, go into the corner faster than you're going.
• 11:31
  Don Armstrong: Hey, look, man, I've done that and gone right off the road.
• 11:34
  Don Armstrong: Well, why didn't you turn it?
• 11:36
  Don Armstrong: Why did you let you No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 11:38
  Don Armstrong: You're the professional here.
• 11:40
  Jeff Dziekan: You're the passenger.
• 11:41
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, and I'm basically the passenger that's driving the car.
• 11:44
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, no, I it it can be harrowing to say the least, and you just don't know where to say, you know, I'm not going to go that fast in the corner.
• 11:56
  Don Armstrong: I'll leave it to somebody else.
• 11:57
  Jeff Dziekan: So what you do, you stop and you say, get out.
• 12:00
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 12:01
  Don Armstrong: You hope to.
• 12:02
  Don Armstrong: So, you know, you brought up television.
• 12:04
  Don Armstrong: Jack, let me ask you something.
• 12:05
  Don Armstrong: And uh, you know, as car guys, we tend to go toward uh broadcast television or cable television or satellite television to find a car channel that has all sorts of different programs on it.
• 12:20
  Don Armstrong: And we don't have that anymore.
• 12:23
  Don Armstrong: Have I just missed out?
• 12:24
  Don Armstrong: What happened to all of our car channels?
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's really kind of strange, isn't it?
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_03: Because uh pretty much everything is a a channel.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I can't believe the number of cooking shows there are out there.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I guess everybody cooks, but kind of everybody drives too.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_03: So you would think that there would be more automotive programming.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: I and I was the first host of Motor Trend TV uh back in the early 90s or something like that.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_03: I and I think I've told you guys I was in the TV business before I was in the car business.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_03: So uh I always thought that cars were perfect for television because they move and television loves stuff that moves, right?
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, uh the typical car show uh the typical drama show used to end with a car chase pretty much every week anyway.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: So um I'm I'm surprised.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm like you.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: I'm I'm not sure why this is, but uh it is is.
• 13:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, you brought up cooking and there's a lot of remodeled the house shows, all of that.
• 13:20
  Jeff Dziekan: And uh you you bring that up, Don, but I've kind of been watching the stuff back in the old motor trend channels and things.
• 13:28
  Jeff Dziekan: They're they're all reruns, but you might every now and then catch an episode, well, you know, I didn't know that, or that's a cool thing about that car.
• 13:35
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh occasionally I'll see it, but I think it's all how they marketed it.
• 13:38
  Jeff Dziekan: I they they ruined it for themselves, I think.
• 13:41
  Don Armstrong: Well, I you know, the bottom line is that everything has a price.
• 13:45
  Don Armstrong: And uh these television shows for cars, they price themselves out of the market by high production costs.
• 13:54
  Don Armstrong: Well you gotta have three cameras and you don't have to have all of that.
• 13:58
  Don Armstrong: I don't believe that you have to have all of that.
• 14:00
  Don Armstrong: You have to have, you know, two producers on the scene, the both of them arguing about how they're going to shoot the next shot.
• 14:07
  Don Armstrong: How about just put an uh instacam in there and just record that?
• 14:12
  Don Armstrong: Because it seems to make no difference so that you've got, you know, a five-camera shoot with two producers or whatever.
• 14:18
  Don Armstrong: Uh I I don't understand it.
• 14:19
  Don Armstrong: I will tell you that uh I am hooked on a thing called Vice Grip Garage with Derek Berry.
• 14:25
  Don Armstrong: I don't know whether you've seen that.
• 14:27
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, you might want to look that up.
• 14:29
  Don Armstrong: It he does this thing on Facebook as well.
• 14:32
  Jeff Dziekan: Okay, it's not on it's not on the regular channel.
• 14:33
  Don Armstrong: It's a well it used to be, but it's not any longer because the channel went away.
• 14:38
  Don Armstrong: Gotcha.
• 14:38
  Don Armstrong: But uh he's he does very well and uh old carbureted cars that he pulls out of barns and fields and that sort of stuff.
• 14:45
  Don Armstrong: And the whole idea is to get it running.
• 14:47
  Don Armstrong: And he does.
• 14:48
  Don Armstrong: He always manages to get these things running.
• 14:50
  Don Armstrong: And uh those are the kind of things that interest me.
• 14:53
  Don Armstrong: Um I don't know what's happening with NASCAR, Jack, but apparently the ratings continue to tank and they can't get a handle on it.
• 15:02
  Don Armstrong: They don't understand why.
• 15:03
  Don Armstrong: There's nobody in the stands anymore.
• 15:05
  Don Armstrong: Well, do you think it may be perhaps this format thing that they're doing changing everything?
• 15:10
  Don Armstrong: That yeah, and you know what happened to the Cale Yarborough and Donnie Allison fight in the infield, they don't let that happen anymore.
• 15:18
  Don Armstrong: Well, they do.
• 15:18
  Don Armstrong: I say let them go for it.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, I think there's a few things going on there.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_03: One, uh, I think a lot of us don't understand the format or see what's going on there, you know, when they divide races into little bitty races, and then there's a you know, all that seems odd.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_03: Also, stock car racing isn't stock car racing, right?
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it's hard to recognize one of the brands from the other out there.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so I think most people with uh the least bit of sophistication know that the uh virtually all the cars are the same.
• 15:49
  Don Armstrong: Uh and I I don't know that that that's they all yeah, they all have the same chassis.
• 15:55
  Don Armstrong: Really, the only thing that's changed is the nose and the tail on the car, right?
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, which is practically decals, right?
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_03: I mean it's pretty much, yeah, yeah.
• 16:04
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:05
  Don Armstrong: It's it's a shame that it's gone that way.
• 16:07
  Don Armstrong: Hopefully, one of these days a television business will iron itself out and we'll have a channel of all of the channels out there that you would think there would be a car channel, but whatever.
• 16:17
  Don Armstrong: Maybe that's an idea for our retirement years, Jack.
• 16:20
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, you and I could get back into television again.
• 16:23
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 16:23
  Jeff Dziekan: And uh when we reach those retirement years, it would be super late, late, late, late night.
• 16:29
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, it would be, but that's okay.
• 16:31
  Don Armstrong: At least it'd be on after after hours.
• 16:33
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 16:34
  Don Armstrong: Well, Jack, it's always great to talk to you.
• 16:36
  Don Armstrong: And we don't we don't we don't we don't talk to you often enough, but uh we'll put in a request for that from the going forward.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_03: Always love to talk to all of you guys.
• 16:47
  Don Armstrong: America on the road.
• 16:48
  Don Armstrong: It's Jack Nierad from sunny Southern California.
• 16:51
  Don Armstrong: Jack, God bless, take care, say hello to the family for us, and we'll talk to you again soon.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_03: I'll do that.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_03: Thanks for having me on the show.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_03: I appreciate it.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_03: You bet.
• 16:58
  Don Armstrong: Thank you, sir.
• 16:59
  Don Armstrong: Hey, just ahead, Jeff's Car Culture, glowing tires.
• 17:03
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• 19:01
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• 19:03
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• 19:06
  Don Armstrong: Um I had Jeff's Car Culture glowing tires.
• 19:11
  Don Armstrong: Are you good with that?
• 19:12
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, I'm good with that.
• 19:12
  Jeff Dziekan: I got it right here.
• 19:13
  Jeff Dziekan: I just had the uh the pages didn't match from yours to the uh other rundowns, so I just want to make sure.
• 19:20
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 19:20
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, we're good.
• 19:21
  Don Armstrong: Well, um maybe perhaps it's the fact that this is this and you've got the other one.
• 19:28
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 19:28
  Don Armstrong: And you've got that one.
• 19:29
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 19:30
  Don Armstrong: So we're on this hour.
• 19:31
  Jeff Dziekan: Okay.
• 19:32
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, I want to be on I I want to be on whatever.
• 19:34
  Don Armstrong: You're on every hour.
• 19:35
  Don Armstrong: I'm on every hour.
• 19:36
  Don Armstrong: But this is kind of a rundown of what we do on every hour.
• 19:39
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, is that what that is?
• 19:43
  Don Armstrong: It's this, just in case you're wondering.
• 19:45
  Don Armstrong: It's what I get to go by.
• 19:47
  Don Armstrong: I have to have something to go by because I'm gonna go bye-bye.
• 19:52
  Don Armstrong: That's it.
• 19:53
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 19:53
  Don Armstrong: Glowing tires.
• 19:55
  Jeff Dziekan: All right, let me fire this up and then you're gonna have to change these because uh uh uh yeah, here we go.
• 20:00
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 20:00
  Don Armstrong: Let me let me get up top there.
• 20:03
  Jeff Dziekan: All right, thank you.
• 20:03
  Jeff Dziekan: All right.
• 20:04
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh so Goodyear tires, bright idea.
• 20:07
  Jeff Dziekan: Back in the late 50s and 60s, Goodyear engineers were feeling enlightened.
• 20:12
  Jeff Dziekan: Their tires actually were.
• 20:13
  Jeff Dziekan: The glow unfortunately didn't last.
• 20:16
  Jeff Dziekan: More than five decades ago, and what the Ohio tire manufacturer called one of the most dramatic tire developments in the history of the industry, Goodyear unveiled a custom car accessory unlike no other, illuminated tires.
• 20:28
  Don Armstrong: Can you imagine that today?
• 20:31
  Jeff Dziekan: You know what?
• 20:32
  Jeff Dziekan: That's Martha.
• 20:33
  Jeff Dziekan: You know, we always talk about Martha.
• 20:34
  Jeff Dziekan: That's Martha right there.
• 20:35
  Jeff Dziekan: So Goodyear's translucent tire can be produced in any color to match the car or hose the wife's new outfit.
• 20:43
  Jeff Dziekan: Some someday a wife may tell a husband, Charlie, can you go out and change the tires?
• 20:47
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm wearing my blue dress tonight.
• 20:49
  Jeff Dziekan: And that's what that's all about.
• 20:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Regardless of what you might think uh about the marketing strategy, Goodyear's illuminated tires offer offered custom car enthusiasts plenty of exciting possibilities.
• 21:00
  Jeff Dziekan: This was the creation of Goodyear chemist William Larson and the and co-worker Anthony Fennelli.
• 21:06
  Jeff Dziekan: The tires were made of neothane, a synthetic polyurethane rubber that combined the hardness of plastic and the resilience uh resilience of rubber.
• 21:15
  Jeff Dziekan: To create the new Fangled tires, the neothane was poured into molds baked at 250 degrees, a temperature much lower much lower than required to make a standard tire.
• 21:28
  Jeff Dziekan: Goodyear uh then added dye to create a rainbow of different colors, and eighteen small lights were mounted in the rims inside of each tire to create a glow that was particularly brilliant at night.
• 21:38
  Jeff Dziekan: Now people still do that to this day, putting lights in their fender wells and things.
• 21:42
  Jeff Dziekan: The invention caused quite a stir when Goodyear put a set of red illuminated tires on a Dodge Polera and drove it around Miami.
• 21:49
  Jeff Dziekan: It did the same for a Chrysler Silver 300, just the same thing, driving around the New York City area.
• 21:56
  Jeff Dziekan: Although the tires went into production, one set made it into To the hands of a person by the name of Jim Sakanis who poured seventy-five thousand dollars or about seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars in today's money in creating the tripped out of Golden Sahara II in the early sixties.
• 22:14
  Jeff Dziekan: The second erratic uh the second version of this was a George Barris custom that started with a 1953 Lincoln Capri called the Golden Sahara II.
• 22:24
  Jeff Dziekan: It wore gold paint mixed with pulverized fish scales that was adorned with gold plate and ornamental work.
• 22:30
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, I like it.
• 22:31
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh those new Fang Dangle Goodyear tires were referred to as glass.
• 22:35
  Jeff Dziekan: They were a cherry on a Sunday.
• 22:37
  Jeff Dziekan: In 2018, this vehicle sold at auction unrestored for$385,000.
• 22:45
  Jeff Dziekan: Ugly.
• 22:46
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 22:46
  Jeff Dziekan: And the tires were were not their the tires were solid.
• 22:48
  Jeff Dziekan: They weren't filled with air.
• 22:49
  Jeff Dziekan: Filled with air a little bit, but they were mainly solid.
• 22:51
  Jeff Dziekan: Now Goodyear held tight on the idea of a sineothane tires would one day become a common, as common as the black rubber counterparts, but didn't happen.
• 23:00
  Jeff Dziekan: After 10 years of work, engineers threw in the towel.
• 23:03
  Jeff Dziekan: Keith Buckley, senior engineer of Goodyear entire rubber company, said in a brief phone interview with the promise of a longer conversation that would ever materialize, the new Fang Dangle tires were doomed for several reasons.
• 23:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Low melting point for the tires uh in the manufacturing process uh made it susceptible to melting while they were actually on the road.
• 23:24
  Jeff Dziekan: So they would just deteriorate and disintegrate.
• 23:26
  Jeff Dziekan: And then the cost would be one thing.
• 23:28
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh made them more dangerous in rainy conditions, and it would take longer uh before they were even covered by road grime, which negated the illumination to begin with.
• 23:37
  Jeff Dziekan: So there you go.
• 23:39
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh illuminated tires.
• 23:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 23:42
  Don Armstrong: Well, they've kind of got that today, uh, with like you said, the lights in the fender wells.
• 23:48
  Don Armstrong: Uh I you know, I I'm not of that age group anymore.
• 23:52
  Don Armstrong: But I think back in the day, uh, had I had a big jacked-up truck or something with a lot of room in there with the wheel wells and some fancy rims, I'd probably do that.
• 24:03
  Jeff Dziekan: And you can make their uh Hancook has red letter tires, blue letter tires.
• 24:08
  Jeff Dziekan: You can get the lettering different, but that's a different process.
• 24:10
  Don Armstrong: Well, I was gonna say that wait, I mean, you can get letters to anything that you want and they stick them on there.
• 24:15
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, you can.
• 24:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, well, that's that's a different process so far as the manufacturing of the color in the tire.
• 24:20
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, I got it.
• 24:21
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:22
  Don Armstrong: And we had remember we went through the red stripe era.
• 24:25
  Don Armstrong: Yep, yep.
• 24:25
  Don Armstrong: Then we went to the raised white letters.
• 24:27
  Jeff Dziekan: Yep, yep, exactly.
• 24:28
  Jeff Dziekan: And uh growing up back in the mid-70s, you know, in high school, and everybody's running around Telegraph Road and all that.
• 24:35
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh particular gentleman, young guy, had a white Camaro, Z, uh split bumpers, and he put white his car was white, so he put white light bulbs in his fenders as he raced and up and down the street.
• 24:48
  Jeff Dziekan: We used to call him Fenderwells.
• 24:49
  Jeff Dziekan: That was his nickname.
• 24:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Fenderwells.
• 24:51
  Don Armstrong: Really?
• 24:52
  Don Armstrong: Because he's in Detroit.
• 24:53
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, because he didn't get arrested?
• 24:55
  Jeff Dziekan: No, because he only did it at certain times when he was running racing.
• 24:57
  Jeff Dziekan: But anyways, make a crazy story.
• 25:00
  Jeff Dziekan: Anyways, welcome back, Mike.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_01: Howdy, howdy had to change some channels.
• 25:07
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 25:08
  Don Armstrong: Change some channels.
• 25:09
  Don Armstrong: Well, he didn't have to change his underwear.
• 25:11
  Don Armstrong: He's doing another segment.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I I thought I was gonna have to, uh I was beginning to panic a little bit.
• 25:17
  Don Armstrong: Were you?
• 25:17
  Don Armstrong: Well, uh, we've moved your driving destinations to another segment because uh we were padding the time waiting for you to come back, but it was gonna be Tuesday.
• 25:28
  Don Armstrong: Tuesday is before there is that.
• 25:32
  Don Armstrong: Um so before we get uh too far out of the way here, um I get to review today a uh new car that you may be interested in.
• 25:44
  Don Armstrong: And that is going to be one moment, please.
• 25:49
  Don Armstrong: TikTok, TikTok.
• 25:51
  Jeff Dziekan: I know.
• 25:53
  Jeff Dziekan: We're on B2, you know, not one A.
• 25:56
  Jeff Dziekan: We're on this one, not this one.
• 25:58
  Don Armstrong: B one or B two, depending on where you are.
• 26:03
  Don Armstrong: Uh bingo.
• 26:04
  Don Armstrong: Um we've got coming up uh recalls.
• 26:06
  Don Armstrong: Uh we're gonna get to Mars driving destinations, and we um also are going to have our fun little thing that we play, and that is with um our sold car roundup and uh what's sold on hemmings.com.
• 26:20
  Don Armstrong: So that that is coming up as well.
• 26:22
  Don Armstrong: That's in the next hour.
• 26:24
  Don Armstrong: So we hope that you'll stay with us.
• 26:26
  Don Armstrong: Mr.
• 26:26
  Don Armstrong: Mars, are you ready to take a break here?
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm a good.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: I need a break.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Have you got anything else to do in there?
• 26:34
  Jeff Dziekan: We're on around 2-4, Mike.
• 26:36
  Jeff Dziekan: We're on two four.
• 26:38
  Don Armstrong: We're on two four.
• 26:39
  Don Armstrong: This commercial break.
• 26:40
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 26:41
  Don Armstrong: Well, whatever the case may be, um, we invite you to stay with us because we don't know what we're gonna do, but it's all gonna come up right after this break here on the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
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• 28:22
  Don Armstrong: That's it for this podcast episode of the In Wheel Time Car Show.
• 28:26
  Don Armstrong: I'm Don Armstrong, inviting you to join us for our live show every Saturday morning on Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, and our InWheelTime.com website.
• 28:36
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