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Ep. 53 : Deadline Preparations · Cards & Categories

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  Hello, and welcome everybody to episode fifty three of Cards and Categories. I
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  am Mike Coolard from ras Ball talking to my very good friend, as always,
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  Jeremy Berr, also from Asball. How are you doing tonight, buddy.
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  I'm hanging in there. I'm a little banged up. I didn't pull
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  a bleak and pulled a hamstring, and so don't worry. I'm going to
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  be out of commission for a little bit. But I can still pod.
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  I can still pod. It's just it's going to be a six to eight
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  week process. So you have to bear with me if I stumble upon some
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  words here, because I'm expecting the hamstring is going to take down my ability
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  to speak at the same time. So but otherwise I'm ready, raring to
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  go. I'm ready. Baseball is back. I don't know about you.
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  I was missing it for a little while here. So we're back the swing
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  of things, and we are right at the trade deadline, which is not
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  a better time as a baseball fan. One of my favorite days of the
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  year sitting on the couch Washington MLB Network just to see everybody announcing trades after
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  the actual deadline because the POTO cannot actually do anything on time, so I
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  mean part of it. Two, it's really mean that he went to Seattle,
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  like in terms of like positioning on time zones in this country. Having
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  him in Preller, I'm sure just like irritates Brian Cashman to no end that
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  he's getting texts. I mean, I guess maybe Cashman gets up early to
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  be able to catch the text from the West Coast. But yeah, that's
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  got to be like the worst like set of coworkers that you could imagine,
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  waking up to all those messages from Preller into Poto and whatever they're doing late
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  night, although they also strike me as night outl so maybe they're actually like,
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  you know, it's like three am out there, you know, and
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  it's let me think how time zones work. I think it would be yeaes
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  six am the East Coast and then yeah, then then it lines up.
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  Yeah, so Cashman starts his day earlier pro or in the Poto and never
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  go to sleep. Yeah, it's just let's just keep rolling, all right.
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  Well, yeah, I'm in the same boat. It was really great
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  to get back after the All Star break. I had a great time discussing
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  it last week, but it was a lonely couple of days and they're waiting
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  be in between. I've said this before, but I don't know why they
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  don't have the Futures game during that time. One day, when Rob Manfred
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  gets on his uh gets off of his work out in Denmark, he'll be
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  emailing us. We'll be exactly. Yes, we have a backlog, don't
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  worry. Yeah, we could go forever. Let's get into some news and
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  notes here, because we have news and notes this week that isn't just the
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  All Star break, but I'm also going to set up the tee for the
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  conversation after those news and notes, and you were trying to lead me into
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  it a little bit with that deadline talk, is that we are going to
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  talk about what moves we should maybe be doing this weekend in anticipation of the
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  deadline that is a week from today as we're speaking on July twenty third,
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  here recording on a Tuesday night because I wanted to record during a thunderstorm,
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  so hopefully we can get through this entire thing without my power going out.
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  But yes, now is the time I think to take advantage of trying to
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  soothe, save some moves and find like get your crystal ball out and try
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  to predict where people are going to go, because if you try to make
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  these moves after the deadline, which we'll also discuss next week in terms of
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  like the fallout from the deadline, it just becomes much more difficult, much
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  more expensive with those bad budgets. So yeah, let's get into some of
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  those news and notes that are impacting our considerations this week, and the big
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  one. We've actually got two big ones coming out of Atlanta as the injury
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  bug strikes them again. This time is Ozzy Albi's, the second basement for
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  the Braves, going down with a fractured wrist. He's looking to be out
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  probably about two months, so I think he's probably out through the regular season
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  and tries to make a return for the playoff run down in Atlanta, although
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  at this point it's gonna be tougher and tougher for them to put a team
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  together. They're down Albi's, they're down Acunya, and we'll get into this
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  after we discussed the Albi's injury a little bit, But they also lost Max
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  Reed this week to what looks like a pretty significance elbow injury. Is that's
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  caught up to him. They've already lost Spencer Strider, Matt Olsen's not playing
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  well, Sean Murphy's not playing well. It is a disaster down in Atlanta.
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  But I think if there's one shining hope, our boy Nacho Alvarez Junior
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  has been called up to replace Ozzy Albi's on that Atlanta roster, So Nacho
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  should be getting full run at some sort of mix of like second, short,
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  third. He's playing third right now as Austin Riley's on the praternity list,
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  but was playing shortstop down in Double A and Triple A, was playing
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  some second base, And we talked about him in the offseason as a a
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  prospect kind of pick to click just because the bat. The grades on the
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  bat here have been messianic as he's been coming through that Brave system. He
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  hit across Double A and Triple A before he was promoted here, got seven
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  bombs, twenty one stone bases, uh, and was able to just like
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  control the zone. This is the type of prospect that I love for that
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  aspect is that he has a double digit rock walk rate, a reasonable k
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  rate. You can tell that he knows how to just hit. And so
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  I'm wondering from you, are you what sort of depth of league are you
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  moving to move and add Nacho Alvarez to your roster right now? Twelve teamer
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  given to me in all the twelve teamers, I am. I'm fully in
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  on on on Nacho. You're putting them in a good lineup. You are
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  looking at the guy that can hit for average, who's gonna get on base,
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  who's gonna seal some bases, has some sneaky power like I don't.
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  He's one of those guys that I really like because he has I'm gonna say,
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  a low uh maybe a lower ceiling, but also a really high floor.
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  And so he's he's gonna be one of those guys I'm not as concerned
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  with investing because he's gonna get on base, he's gonna run like he's gonna
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  do something, and he's gonna produce. He just isn't gonna go probably crazy,
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  which that's fine. Like taking the guy with the waiver wire and stick
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  him into your lineup, I'm all for it. So I'm I'm investing in
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  in Nacho partially because of the team names I can now create. Secondarily because
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  I think he's a really good player. He you know, don't. I
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  don't know. Maybe peak Nacho has the potential to be maybe a fifteen thirty
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  guy, and maybe he's twenty thirty if I stretch it hitting two eighty,
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  like I, I like, you can easily see like an Azzi Albi's type
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  of profile here and exactly who I was gonna say. I think he's an
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  Azzi Albi's clone. Yeah, so there's nothing wrong with that. And you
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  know, I think he's he was he needed to get a chance, and
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  I'm I was glad that Ozzie Alby's got hurt, but I'm glad that they're
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  giving him a chance. And I think we had talked about this, that
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  the Braves like to be a little more aggressive with their prospects. Like he's
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  showing he's ready, let's do it. So I'm I'm buying him in twelve
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  teamers. I'm not, you know, overly investing, but hey, I'm
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  just going to brag I one of our leagues. I outbid you on fab
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  last night. I don't know what your bid was, but I won.
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  I can tell you that. So how about you? What size league are
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  you at and how how head over heels are you? Because you clearly sold
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  me earlier this season was as we've talked about him, Yeah, I think
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  I'm in the same spot as you that I had a token bid in on
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  him. I'm pretty solid up the middle infield in that league, so I
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  didn't necessarily have a great spot for him, And like I'm got like Nolan
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  Gorman on the bench in that league, So that's kind of a indicator of
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  like where that level was. But certainly, like, yeah, if you're
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  looking for somebody to put into that middle infield spot, especially as we're gonna
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  get into a couple of middle endfield injuries here in this podcast between Boba Schett
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  and JP Crawford going down that there might be some spots and obviously Albi's can't
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  skip over that one. So yeah, I think it's worth taking the chance
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  on him here. And like I said, there's not a lot here in
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  the profile that really gives me pause or concern because it is just a pretty
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  solid second base, shortstot, middle infield bat where you want a guy who
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  plays every day the braves appear to leave in the defense, and just the
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  ability for him to get the bat to the ball, And even if you're
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  looking at like I mean, I know in Double A. At with two
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  hundred and two plate appearances, he only put up a one to fifteen WRC
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  plus, but that increased to a one sixty over one hundred and thirty two
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  played appearance at Triple A. He hit seven homers at Triple A versus zero
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  at Double A. But we were diving into it a little bit that that
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  Double A Stadium or Atlanta down Mississippi, is a picture's park to the max.
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  It's got like a seventy to eighty ish home run factor on it.
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  So that is something I'm certainly tucking away in the back of my head as
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  we move forward evaluating all Atlanta prospects, because I think that is interesting.
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  I was initially not always in on Acuna when he was rising through the ranks
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  because the home run totals weren't there, But now I think I know why,
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  and I think the same as it is at Triple A for the Braves
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  too, that that is a hitters or a pitcher's park as well. So
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  you're looking at it's just a tough environment for him to come through, and
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  he's really shined. I think a lot of the projections are missing here except
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  for the bat. The bat and bad X are picking up something I think
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  from that lower league level, especially, I know bad X is us using
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  a lot more stat Cast data that they have the highest batting average at two
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  sixty three. For Nacho Alvarez, I think that's probably a good spot for
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  him to to be as a floor. But like you said, I think
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  this is a guy who, once he settles in, you're looking at essentially
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  what would be like an Ozzy Albi's at second base two to eighty, something
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  like fifteen twenty five in terms of homer's and storm bases with corresponding runs in
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  RBI in the Atlanta Braves offense. Yeah, I mean, where are you
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  thinking about Ozzi Albi's Like from a purely from this year's perspective, he's off,
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  You're dropping them. If you're in redraft leagues, you're done. What
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  about a keeper scenario? What do you what do you think Albi's value is
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  going into next year in that Braves offense? Yeah? I mean I think
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  this is a tough injury for him too, because like, wrist and hand
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  injuries are not great for batters. I really despise them. And it's really
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  one of the first times that Albi's has been dealing with it in like a
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  significant way. What really sucks for Albi's career is that it keeps coming on
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  like hit by pitches and freak injuries. It's not like he's out there in
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  being alloy a Meenez on the base pass where the hammy gives out like you
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  every time that you know it's he's getting hit, he's getting beamed. He's
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  like running into people, and that's what's causing a lot of these injuries.
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  And so you just kind of wonder if Albi's can handle the wear and tear
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  of a season. Obviously he's no Marcus Simeon, but where is that true
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  talent level? And so I think if I'm in a keeper situation and the
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  price is starting to drop, I would be interested, just because I do
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  think that Albi's can pretty consistently be like a twenty twenty bat with a two
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  to eighty, just like I said, just like Nacho. I also don't
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  have any concerns with Nacho taking Albi's this place at second base for next year,
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  because I think the Braves are already setting this up where they can bring
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  Nacho in at shortstop to replace Orlando Arcia and be able to keep both of
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  them on the infield. I think that's why they dealt Von Grison at the
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  beginning of the season as well. So yeah, I would be interested,
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  but I'm not necessarily like out there acquiring in droves are like trying to spur
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  on that those trade talks for Albi's because of that risk injury giving me that
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  pause. What about you, What are you thinking for Ozzy Albi's going into
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  this offseason? Yeah, I think for for Abbie's, you're right on.
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  There's like, I don't think I'm drowngrading him that much. I just I
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  need to see a little report in the offseason and see where he is.
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  I don't want a Tommy Edmund situation here where you think he's gonna be back
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  in spring training and now we're in late July and we haven't seen the guy.
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  So I think that's my concern. But Albi's has always been a solid
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  hitter. You know, he's strowed a little bit this year. He's not
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  hit it as hard and he's also not as much home run luck, and
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  so some of his numbers still are a little bit down. But he was
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  still pacing for you know, it's called a fifteen fifteen eighty eighty type season,
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  hitting two sixty, which is like a pretty down year for him.
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  And so I'll take that down year and then say if he gets if he's
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  healthy, because he's definitely been banged up this year, and then he's got
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  a little bit of luck on his side. You know, he's this is
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  the guy that's hit thirty home runs twice, he's hit twenty four home runs
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  two other times, and he's consistently been a fifteen to twenty steel guy.
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  Like that is the talent he is. It's just as he's going to be
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  on the field to do it. And I know he's been a little off
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  this year, but he's still just a twenty seven year old playing for the
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  Atlanta Braves who just produced gray ballplayers. So I'm liking Ozzie. I wouldn't
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  really downgrade his long term value too much. And to your point, if
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  somebody's looking to sell sell him, I'm buying all day. Yeah. I
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  think we're on the same page there. So, like I alluded to the
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  other injury, here is starting pitcher Max Free being placed on the al with
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  what is left forearmed writis which is ultimately a nerve injury there in his left
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  arm. So he has dealt with a left fore arm strain and other elbow
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  issues over the past couple of years, and this is all just very ominous
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  that you feel like something more significant is coming here in terms of either a
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  Tommy John to dig into that ucl and replace it or some sort of like
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  nerve replacement, you know, surgery or nerve Like by replacement, I mean
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  like literally like moving the placement of the nerve in the elbow. I know
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  some players have had that over the years, and you just have to wonder,
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  like at this point, what the Braves can like juice out of Max
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  Freed for the rest of the year without like it knocking him out for another
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  year or two. And I think this also opens it up where the Braves
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  will be a pretty big subject of those trade talks next week and going into
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  some of the players that we're going to talk about in the second half of
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  our show. But what are you doing with Max three? Like in terms
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  of rest of season, it seems pretty like I'm not sure. It's very
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  vague in terms of what the Braves think his schedule is gonna be. And
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  because of that, it's gonna make it tougher and tougher to roster him the
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  rest of the season. So are you maybe considering moving on for Freed in
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  some in some areas where you've got a full injured list, And again,
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  like Albi's, what do you think this does for any long term keeper value
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  for Max Freed? Yeah, you know, I'll probably given Freed. You
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  know, I'll call it two three weeks at most here, just to kind
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  of see what the news is. But you know, one of the things
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  I think at times we tend to forget for pitchers in our fantasy baseball game
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  that if you're starting to talk about the last two months of the season,
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  especially in the last month and a half, you might be talking about like
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  seven or eight starts, and so you know, an ace pitcher at that
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  point in time's value actually starts to diminish pretty quickly because you're pitching stats are
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  pretty well stabilized and ACE could be great, but they're only gonna move him
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  so much on the endver somebody else that's not great. Like you're kind of
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  where you're standing from a roto league had to have a whole different hole,
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  different ballgame, right, So I want to hear a little bit more what's
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  gonna happen with Free here, But to your point, it is ominous.
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  I'm more concerned with Free long term because it feels like this year his elbows
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  made of glass a little bit more than it has in the past. And
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  I love Max Freed. I absolutely love him, fantastic pitcher. I'm like,
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  I'm resisting the urge to go buy him right now in a league or
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  two because I feel like this is the first chance I'll get to buy him.
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  But I'm just holding off knowing that some guy's gonna probably cut him when
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  we were two weeks out here and he gets announced that he's getting the UCL
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  repaired, so I do. I'm definitely discounting the long term. And I
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  think the part of that is this isn't a injury. It seems like it's
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  one of those that something's going on and it just keeps manifesting himself in different
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  ways, and he must just be putting more stress on that arm the way
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  he froze like Ricky Tiedeman over on the farm for for Toronto, that his
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  arm is just struggling to hold up. And I'm a little concerned how much
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  longer you can go because he's unlike some of these other guys. Next,
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  Free is a little bit older than you think. He is thirty, and
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  I still think of him like a twenty six twenty seven year old. But
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  he's I mean, he's been around for a good eight nine seasons now,
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  and he's got a decent wear and tear on that arm. Quiz for you,
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  how many pitches are you thrown in his career? Woh, that's that.
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  I'm gonna guess. I have no idea because like I'm not even sure
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  like what people throw in here. I'm I really should which is really terrible
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  of me. I'm going to guess, like like fourteen thousand, I'm going
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  to give you a passing grade on that. We're talking twelve nine hundred.
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  You're within shouting range, and I'm just going to give you the bullpens and
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  call you right uh more on pitches and those types of things. That's a
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  lot, yeahring training obviously. Yeah, sorry, I didn't have the filters
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  right in my data, but yeah, I think there's just there's a lot
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  here. So I'm concerned with Freed. I buy them if there's you know,
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  if we're talking you know, the shop of the five and dime here
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  we're talking to ninety percent discountunt Otherwise I'm I'm staying pretty far away from X
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  Freed. Yeah, I think you nailed it. I think all your takes
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  are actually exactly the same takes I have that I ended up. This was
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  actually the first year I've ended up with Max Breed shares, just because in
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  some of our leagues, especially like our our Parts league, everybody else that
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  writes for ras ball also has been scared of Max Fried's elbow. So when
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  he felt to me in like the fourth or fifth round, I just like
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  had to at that point like he would he had gone and dropped too far
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  where I just needed that level of a starting pitcher. And if that starts
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  happening, then sure, yeah, I'll take that gamble. But certainly what
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  it usually costs at the draft table to get Max Freed, it hasn't been
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  worth it. And this is exactly why. Okay, well, the knixt
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  injury we have is to Bo Bashet, shortstop from the Toronto Blue Jays,
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  who that calf stream has really come back to haunt him, as this is
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  just another nebulous injury where the Blue Jays are not giving a great timeline.
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  It doesn't help that the Blue Jays are gonna be one of the biggest sellers.
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  I think at this deadline, you know, they're fifteen back in the
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  Al East, they're nine games under five hundred. It's not really going to
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  materialize for them. So I wouldn't be surprised if they just kind of mothball
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  Bobashet the rest of the year at this point that they say, hey,
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  it was a lost year for you, buddy, get healthy, come back
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  next year, and we'll try to rEFInd it. But I think that's been
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  the problem with Bobachet now the past couple of years is I don't know if
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  he's ever going to rEFInd it in terms of being that first and second round
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  level talent that we've seen in the past couple of years. You know,
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  you look at that twenty twenty one season that just sticks out like a sore
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  thumb along with honestly that's flats too. A lot of that as Bradenton juiced.
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  So there is that, and I mean he did come back in twenty
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  two and still put up a one thirty WRC plus with twenty four storm bases
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  and thirteen or twenty four homers and thirteen stone bases. But this is I
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  think the problem that I've always had with long with Bobachette long term and keeper
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  leaks two is that just because like the power was always a little bit middling
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  in terms of it's not like he was a thirty forty homer bat and so
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  the speed started to go, especially last year and even into twenty two when
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  it fell to thirteen bags. It turns into a pretty blah profile once the
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  storm bases go away. You look at the bat ball profile for Boba sheet
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  it's never been super strong, so you couldn't ever count on anything more than
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  I think like to eighty ish average would all the metrics kind of call for
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  in terms of the projections going forward, And so I was never I was
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  always kind of waiting for the botmom to fall out here, and it looks
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  like it really has in terms of how quickly and rapidly things have deteriorated for
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  bobaschet So I think again in single season leagues were probably like this is somebody
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  you might cut again because like, I don't know how much you're going to
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  get the rest of the year. It's been rough coming into this point.
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  But again I'm gonna revisit and ask you what are you doing with him in
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  keeper leagues, because I think that's going to be a really significant question for
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  Bobachett owners out here as they get into the off season. Yeah, I
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  my clear move in a keeper league here is given to the off season when
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  he's healthy and move him like there. I have a zero desire to have
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  him on my roster at any point going forward. And so you're looking for
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  the optimal time for Bashett to have the most possible value and I don't know
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  when that is going to be, but it's not right now. And I
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  don't want to get in the spring training next year with n only team,
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  And so you're waiting probably somewhere in the beginning of whatever your trade off season
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  trade window is, and hoping he's some report out there that he's healthy and
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  he's working out or something like that, and you are moving him. I
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  think you hit the nail on the head. Like I've been out on Bobaschett
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  for like three years now, it's you know, the speed was like a
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  once and done type thing just didn't come back. The power's not really there,
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  and that when those things start to fall off and the blue Jays aren't
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  hitting well, like the counting stats are, like it's just all falling apart
• 22:56
  around him, and it's just it's so disappointing. We had such a I
• 23:00
  think a beautiful story about the sons of the All Stars playing with Cavan Bgo,
• 23:06
  Boba Schet, Vlad Guerrero and like they are just dropping like flies and
• 23:11
  proving that Daddy was right. Daddy knew what he was doing, and unfortunately
• 23:17
  somebody else didn't watch enough film or something. So yeah, Boba Shechet,
• 23:22
  I'm moving on from him. You know, he he's fallen out of my
• 23:26
  top one hundred hitters. He was already on the way house well before.
• 23:32
  Had to do a lot of scrolling to find him to kick him out.
• 23:33
  But he's he's well off, and I think I think you're right. I
• 23:37
  would like if you're going bold predictions here, I would be comfortable saying I
• 23:41
  don't know if Boba Schet plays another game this season for the Blue Jays.
• 23:45
  Yeah, I think that's very fair, and don't besmirch Jeff co nine and
• 23:51
  his son Griffin good name like that. He was drafted by the Blue Jays
• 23:55
  in the second round of twenty eighteen. He was in that group of all
• 23:59
  the former All Star sons and he gets no love. He fair, fair,
• 24:03
  he gets no love. He's also still has some debut. He's in
• 24:07
  Triple A right now for the Marlins. He might make He might make it
• 24:11
  this year once the mist watch it. Just watch the story like Bigio couldn't
• 24:17
  do it, Guerrero couldn't do it? Well, is he coming from here?
• 24:22
  You go for Griffin Conine? Okay, uh yeah. The next injury
• 24:27
  we've got is Carlos Carrea from the Minnesota Twins and his teammate Chris Paddock were
• 24:33
  placed on the IL this past week. I'll set Paddick aside because we've covered
• 24:38
  him a little bit previously on the podcast, and again it doesn't look like
• 24:42
  he's fully recovered from kind of his significant injury history, and another player who
• 24:48
  might not see the field again the rest of this year in terms of just
• 24:52
  the Twins, you know, wanting to manage his injuries overall. So I
• 24:59
  think the Twins will be in on lots of pitching at the deadline next week.
• 25:02
  But Carlos Korea, I think the more concerning thing here is that he's
• 25:07
  going down with plantar fasciitis. Again for the second straight year, And this
• 25:11
  is one I can actually relate on, just like your straine hamstring. I
• 25:14
  got plantar fasciitis during the pandemic when we were all stuck at home, and
• 25:21
  it just was like, did a little bit of movement and got plantar fasciaitis,
• 25:25
  so that it's it's a pain, and I can't believe that he even
• 25:27
  like has played through it at all, because it's just it feels like you're
• 25:33
  just shredding the middle of your foot every time you take a step. And
• 25:37
  so I think it's been a why the you know, speed has fully dried
• 25:44
  up for Carls Crea since you know, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, as
• 25:48
  he's dealt with all the leg injuries. That's where he's got the plate in
• 25:52
  that caused the significant discounts and bouncing around during his free agent period. And
• 26:00
  this was always kind of like the concern coming into the year owning Carlos Korea
• 26:03
  because now you're scrambling out on that wire to try to outbid somebody for Nato
• 26:07
  Alvarez as a replacement while also trying to make up the stolen bases. And
• 26:12
  so yeah, I think I hate to sound like a broken record. But
• 26:17
  again, what sort of like long term outlook are you looking for with Carlos
• 26:21
  Korea? Because I think in some keeper leagues this year he probably actually was
• 26:26
  pretty cheap and was trending for people to keep him. But is this enough
• 26:30
  of like a warning sign, enough of a flag to say, you know
• 26:33
  what, the one fifty two WRC plus he put up was nice, but
• 26:37
  he's turning thirty next year, he's dealing with plantifrescitis. Again, what are
• 26:44
  you doing with him in that situation? Yeah? I got you have this
• 26:47
  conversation one of the commenters on article probably two weeks ago, and they were,
• 26:51
  well, they call me out. I don't know what it was,
• 26:52
  but we were just talking about Carlo's Korea and why, you know what,
• 26:56
  what what's the why isn't he higher on lists and things like that? And
• 27:00
  I really put it down to him, like enjoy the ride right now,
• 27:03
  Like this is not what you expect from Carlos Korea. Like we know the
• 27:07
  talent level is there, right, but it's like and you can look at
• 27:11
  the metrics and it looks like, you know, his stat cast is like
• 27:15
  purely all red, like there's nothing the numbers to say that he can't sustain
• 27:18
  this. It's just Carlos Korea and physically sustain this. And that's kind of
• 27:23
  what I told him, Like, enjoy the ride, but I would be
• 27:26
  selling him immediately for anybody that's looking to buy and is like believing in this
• 27:30
  resurgence of Carlos Korea because he is that talented. You can't rely on him.
• 27:36
  And I've made the same employ about Aaron Judge and been wrong mulple of
• 27:40
  times, so you know, take it for what it's worth. But you're
• 27:42
  right from a long term perspective. Hopefully this is kind of a short term
• 27:47
  thing. He's not gonna wait for it to fully heal. This is one
• 27:48
  of those injuries that really does stick with you for a long time. I
• 27:52
  being the resident, always hurt of some sort. I had this back in
• 27:56
  high school and I played baseball, and you're right, it's just like taking
• 28:00
  a knife to the bomb of your foot. And only thing I guess it
• 28:03
  makes it better is don't get on your foot. Like it's not that complicated.
• 28:07
  I'm no expert, but to play baseball you have to stay it on
• 28:11
  your feet and that would hurt. So I think he's gonna come back.
• 28:15
  He's gonna try to make a run of it. And I hope, hope
• 28:18
  he finished the season healthy that you can turn into something the off season,
• 28:21
  be like, man, look how good he was. Yeah, he missed
• 28:22
  a little at the time, but you know in his you know, hundred
• 28:26
  games or whatever he was, you know, like I said, one hundred
• 28:30
  and fifty wrsc plus kind of guy. Sure, let's take it. So
• 28:36
  love it. Glad he's doing pitting well. I think we're getting what we
• 28:40
  expect with Carlos Gray at this point. Yeah, And I mean I was
• 28:45
  just also like squirming because thinking about like walking around with pantire fascy iis in
• 28:48
  baseball cleats, that just sounds like torture. It sounds like the worst.
• 28:53
  I mean, there's a lot of padding in those things, right, it's
• 28:56
  just just not like standing on like tax sometimes but you like step on some
• 29:00
  concrete, like you know when you were expecting step on dirt or something like
• 29:04
  oooh, I'll show you to the bones. Okay. The next I would
• 29:10
  say, we've got a collection of transactions and just a blob of misery to
• 29:18
  unwind, as the Seattle Mariners are just totally fallen apart part. They had
• 29:22
  a double digit lead in the division back on June eighteenth. That dried up
• 29:27
  on Monday of this week Sunday, actually, so Monday Sunday, the Astros
• 29:33
  caught them and they are playing a Oh they my bad. I thought they
• 29:37
  were playing a series, but I had that wrong. So they have fallen
• 29:42
  apart and allowed the Astros to catch them the worst or like quickest that anybody
• 29:48
  has blown a double digit lead in a division I think ever in the wild
• 29:52
  card era. So kudos to the Seattle Manners for that. And ty France
• 29:57
  is the man who is taking the heat for that, as he was placed
• 30:00
  on outright waivers by the Mariners and was just absolutely dreadful after he returned from
• 30:07
  that cracked heel. I imagine someone's gonna pick him up, but he did
• 30:11
  fully clear waivers like nobody even put in a claim or anything for him.
• 30:15
  So certainly I'm sure there are twelve teamers and plenty of fifteen teamers out there
• 30:22
  that had ty France still around. As you know, the metrics were looking
• 30:26
  pretty good in terms of the bad of ball, but the defense was costing
• 30:30
  him and it was time to go in Seattle on top of it, Like
• 30:34
  I alluded to, JP Crawford is broke his pinky finger and will be out
• 30:40
  for a few weeks. Hlio Rodriguez avoided a serious injury on Sunday. It
• 30:44
  looked like he had really like fractured his ankle or something, but it ended
• 30:48
  up being just a slight tweak. And let me check, I think he's
• 30:52
  in the lineup to night. They put him on the ten Dady Il before
• 31:02
  we start speaking, So never mind, he is not playing tonight, and
• 31:04
  so hopefully that is just a quick trip to the IL for him and he
• 31:11
  bounces back soon. So with all that going on, this was really turned
• 31:15
  into just like quite the masterclass of how to turn into a rolling just like
• 31:25
  s show. In terms of like, I wondered how you were to phrase
• 31:27
  that, because I, like I had the same thought process, I had
• 31:30
  the same analogy in my head at a little as it was, but as
• 31:33
  things have really fallen apart, But like, this is also part of why,
• 31:37
  like I didn't take any Julio shares early in drafts where I had the
• 31:42
  chance, because I wasn't bought into just the Mariners in general, in terms
• 31:48
  of like that Park is brutal in terms of like the way that double a
• 31:52
  Mississippi is for the Braves, that it is clearly suppressing his overall stats,
• 31:57
  and then I think it may him press even more on the road. That
• 32:01
  it's like a similar to a Cours effect, but it's like you are hitting
• 32:07
  so poorly at home that you're pressing on the road. And just it has
• 32:10
  been a really brutal season for Julio Rodriguez. Do you think that I'm off
• 32:15
  and thinking that at all? Are you considering like maybe trying to I don't
• 32:21
  think that Julio Rodriguez is like a significantly bad player, but I'm just not
• 32:27
  sure he's like a top fifteen bat honestly, Like, I think his floor
• 32:34
  is going to prevent him from ever being drafted by me, because I think
• 32:37
  he's going to consistently be going in that first round. Yeah, I don't
• 32:43
  think you're too far off there, because you know, Julio, he for
• 32:46
  all his talent, he can go on these streaks, but he is very
• 32:51
  luck dependent. And he's also one that he he doesn't get on base without
• 33:00
  you know, without making hit, like without getting a hit. He doesn't
• 33:02
  walk that much. Yeah, and so it's a little harder for him to
• 33:06
  do so when he has the kind of luck factors going for him, it's
• 33:09
  great. I think he's better than what he has been this year. I
• 33:14
  don't think there's any question about that. So I'm I'm fine looking at him
• 33:16
  as a top fifteen type hitter. I think you're absolutely right there. It's
• 33:20
  just a struggle. You look at this Mariners off sense and come into the
• 33:23
  year like maybe they just sold something that wasn't there, And I mean I
• 33:28
  kind of looked at it and go, hey, man, they've they've got
• 33:30
  all these guys that they're pulling this piece together. They got Mitch Haniger back
• 33:35
  where he needs to be. They got Mitch Garber, who's just amazing last
• 33:37
  year. They've got hy France who's coming off a down year, but he's
• 33:40
  really kind of was figuring things out. Like you could just go down the
• 33:44
  list of all these guys that looked like they were going to deliver, and
• 33:49
  now I'm looking at the leaders for war for the Mariners. You got Kyle
• 33:53
  Rally two point six, who the Rodriguez at one point nine, and then
• 33:58
  you've got a list of like all these guys who could what could have been
• 34:02
  with Josh Rojas, JP Crawford, Dylan Moore, Victor Roeblist, Luke Rayley,
• 34:07
  Like that is not the way to build a lineup, Like you literally
• 34:12
  have one star and then a big thumper and nothing, nothing at all around
• 34:17
  those guys. And I know there's some young guys like Tyler Lockleer that's come
• 34:22
  up and things like that, and maybe they'll they'll make make an impact,
• 34:25
  but it's it just hasn't been there. And I think that team's a lot
• 34:30
  thinner, uh than people people realize, and that's gonna make it hard for
• 34:34
  the guys like Julio to get enough at bats to get a chance to get
• 34:37
  there. I'm frankly surprised there where they are in the division, with the
• 34:42
  kind of the teams they have put together here. So it'll be interesting to
• 34:45
  see you kind of what they continue to do the rest of the season.
• 34:51
  But Jerry, Jerry's got some work cut out for him for sure. Yeah,
• 34:54
  and that pitching staff is certainly carrying them, because it is a pretty
• 34:58
  crazy pitching staff went through. And Yeah, as I was seeing you talk
• 35:04
  about Julio two and just kind of looking at his profile, this is actually
• 35:07
  a little bit of like an odd player at this tier of the fantasy player
• 35:12
  pool, where he's actually a much better real life player than he is I
• 35:15
  think fantasy player because the batting average is just it's really in question because of
• 35:23
  his strikeout rate. His defense is superlative, so like he plays a solid
• 35:29
  center field, so the war Tolds are always there. That Like, it's
• 35:31
  a little bit of like a strange player where I think I would rather own
• 35:38
  his cards than have him in a fantasy realm because I think that like the
• 35:43
  value in terms of what he will mean to the sport and like have chances
• 35:47
  at all Star games. And I mean he's only twenty three, but even
• 35:52
  like thinking super into the future of like you know, Hall of Fame considerations
• 35:55
  and so on, so forth, is going to be stronger than I think
• 36:00
  it will ever be, like in a fantasy situation obviously, like last year
• 36:04
  was superlative with thirty two homers and thirty seven stone bases, but it took
• 36:09
  a crazy hot stretch at the end for him to get there. And I
• 36:12
  don't know if he's ever going to kind of touch those peak numbers again,
• 36:16
  but I think it's gonna be kind of an interesting dynamic in Julio Rodriguez's career
• 36:22
  going forward, because I think he is one of the main superstars in baseball
• 36:28
  and will be. You know, he's a pretty constant five to seven war
• 36:31
  player with the ability to push it past eight. But in terms of fantasy,
• 36:37
  it's not always going to translate because the defense is really booing him a
• 36:40
  lot. It is, And I think he's also one of those players that
• 36:44
  is going to be better as good as the cast is around him, because
• 36:47
  he if he's not getting protection, then he's not going to get the balls
• 36:51
  to hit and he's going to press. He's going to struggle. And I
• 36:53
  don't know if you've looked if you looked at the team leaderboards for stats already.
• 36:58
  If not, I'm quizzing, yes, so have you have you looked?
• 37:00
  No? I thought, I mean Victor Roadplace is hitting in the two
• 37:05
  spot for this team. Victor road Place, who was cut by the Washington
• 37:07
  Nationals. Like I don't like ill, we can get into the quiz too,
• 37:12
  but like, wow, exactly, it's just like finals. Finally give
• 37:17
  your ears the number two hitter for a playoff team. But I want you
• 37:22
  to tell me where you think the Mariners are in run production of all of
• 37:29
  baseball. I'll give you a clue here, it's between one and thirty what
• 37:36
  what what spots do you see the marriage and for run production? And this
• 37:40
  is part of the Julio conversation. Why we see it's a struggle. I
• 37:45
  would, honestly, I bet it's like twenty eighth. I would guess twenty
• 37:49
  eighth, bingo eight. You can you can name the two teams below it
• 37:52
  I white socks. White socks are one man? Can I you can do
• 38:00
  it? I mean, well, it's Tigers, is it? Tigers?
• 38:07
  No? Marlins? Day? I was I'm going to say, as I
• 38:12
  was, like, they keep scoring like fifteen runs a game, but A's
• 38:14
  are twentieth. Like as she talks about where the Ti Tigers are sixteen,
• 38:20
  you're you were out on such a role there. You just you fell off
• 38:22
  the deep end their head. Yeah, but Seattle has only the White Sox,
• 38:30
  who are vastly behind everybody, and then the Marlins, who are actually
• 38:34
  doing their damness to get to catch the White Sox. And then the Mariners
• 38:37
  are the third worst run scoring team in Major League Baseball and they're a playoff
• 38:46
  team right now because of the pitching. That's absolutely hurting Julio Rodriguez. All
• 38:52
  right, Well, with that dour note, let's move on to some cart
• 38:55
  discussion, as we have had some news that's kind out from the Tops Chrome
• 39:00
  since we covered it last week. If you want to go back to episode
• 39:04
  fifty two, and I mean one here all the cool stats that I pulled
• 39:07
  out for our anniversary, but to get an overview of twenty twenty four Tops
• 39:10
  Chrome and the big news I think is, I don't know if I've ever
• 39:15
  seen such significant cards hold in like the first week of a product like this.
• 39:21
  I'll link to it in the show details and anything else that we've been
• 39:24
  discussing. You can certainly go back to the show details and check out.
• 39:29
  But this is more important, I think than the others because you can see
• 39:31
  the pictures and just see the magnitude of the polls because I'm only naming like
• 39:37
  the tippy top ones here in terms of we've already had the Ella de la
• 39:40
  Cruz super Fractor bass and Auto have been pulled. We've had the Jackson Holliday
• 39:47
  super Fractor Auto polled, We've had the Show toa Imaniga super Fractor Basse polled,
• 39:54
  and so especially those two LI cards coming out, of the product this
• 39:58
  early. I'm wondering where the rest of this tops Chrome goes because the other
• 40:05
  piece of news that we discovered since we talked last week, and maybe this
• 40:09
  was floating out there in just the general kind of public or maybe some discussion
• 40:15
  boards or something, but I had really put two and two together that some
• 40:21
  of those significant autographs from legends, and we covered it last week in terms
• 40:25
  of the Sandy Kofax, but also Eachi ro King, Griffy Junior. There's
• 40:30
  some big time autos that are on the checklist. They're only included in the
• 40:35
  breakers the light boxes, which are if you're not familiar with it, it's
• 40:39
  a very compacted hobby box where essentially they stripped out all of the base cards.
• 40:45
  This also makes sense why some of that base card run was so much
• 40:49
  lower than I was expecting, because what they do is they just essentially take
• 40:52
  a bunch of refractors autos what are generally considered pretty large hits, put it
• 40:59
  into a breaker boxes what it's called, charge a whole back bunch of a
• 41:04
  lot of money, but mostly exclusively like try to work to get it into
• 41:08
  the hands of their fanatics related breakers so that they can have good content and
• 41:15
  be able to flip these cards. But that combo between the both, you've
• 41:19
  got to think it's gonna be shrinking the market on these forty dollars retail boxes
• 41:23
  and any of the other hobby boxes where you were just looking at a pretty
• 41:28
  brutal checklist in terms of the other autographs. Yeah, it's You're absolutely right.
• 41:32
  It's it's interesting because the price point for like a value box is what
• 41:37
  forty bucks for chrome. And I've already seen a number of stories of folks
• 41:43
  pulling like fully uncolated boxes by like three boxes they're exactly the same, and
• 41:49
  things like that. And now you're taking some of the biggest hits of those
• 41:52
  legends and also some of the other big cards. I know you'll talk about
• 41:55
  it than the hit, and you're basically saying, like you still want to
• 41:59
  buy this product, trust me, you can't hit the best card or the
• 42:01
  second best or the third best card like it's not there. And I also
• 42:06
  think it's playing into and I have no basis for this, but I think
• 42:09
  we're playing the narrative that tops and fanatics are are placing these cards to a
• 42:15
  degree with the breakers, and if you watch the videos, things like that.
• 42:19
  It is like almost stage is always pulled in the card shop are always
• 42:22
  pulled in the breaker like gone o the days, or you and I box
• 42:27
  home when you're ripping at the kitchen table and you're hitting a big card like
• 42:30
  that's that doesn't seem to happen with the major cards. Sure, like a
• 42:34
  nice Ellie Basse auto or numbered auto, but you know the big major hits,
• 42:40
  they all just suspiciously seem to be on camera at this point in time.
• 42:47
  Yeah, I've also noticed like a really just it's a really concerning feedback
• 42:52
  loop in terms of like Reddit will post cards that they're hitting, and then
• 42:58
  like tops social media accounts will just like take that information raw off without vetting
• 43:06
  it in terms of like where the person got it from the same thing with
• 43:10
  social media channels too, in terms of like somebody will post on Instagram and
• 43:14
  say, hey, I just pulled this out of a blaster box, but
• 43:15
  then it Tops fanatics will just take that information run that on their Instagram and
• 43:22
  Twitter accounts without any sort of like sort of vetting in between, and like
• 43:27
  it does feel really dangerous in terms of like the space we're playing in with
• 43:31
  just the overall monopoly that runs this space. But then when you're also cutting
• 43:36
  out like the ability for any sort of like kind of I don't know,
• 43:42
  like it feels like there needs to be some sort of level of journalism digging
• 43:45
  into this, where Beckett used to feel like they added some semblance of this
• 43:51
  as well as card Board Connection and a couple of other outlets where there seemed
• 43:55
  to be some sort of filter of like journalistic like integrity or something that would
• 44:00
  help kind of easies concerns. But I've noticed, especially over the past year
• 44:05
  since we've started this podcast, that like a lot of that has been filtered
• 44:08
  out and it just goes straight from whatever based social media feed up to tops
• 44:14
  and then kind of self perpetuates this advertising machine, which is just not good
• 44:20
  and very concerning, especially when you're talking about like a situation in America too,
• 44:28
  where you have like legalized gambling everywhere. I think you have lots of
• 44:31
  people with gambling problems and addictions, and this is certainly a space that can
• 44:37
  prey on those people pretty easily with I think a lot fewer protections. Yeah,
• 44:44
  and just to give a live example, you know, we're two of
• 44:47
  the biggest cards have been pulled in the last few weeks share or the Eli
• 44:52
  Dela Cruz one of one's super fractor and the Eli Delic Crews one one auto
• 44:57
  superfractor. And it assuming you watched the video of the Elle Della Cruz auto
• 45:04
  being pulled, which was posted by tops, and like the caption and I
• 45:08
  read it, it's like a collector who bought a single box at this hobby
• 45:13
  shop just pulled the one on one super fractor. Who's gonna pull Ellie's number
• 45:16
  one helix and like, apparently if there's a million one to one auto superfractors
• 45:22
  of Ellie's. But like the the video very suspiciously starts somehow zoomed in on
• 45:29
  the guy's hands opening a single pack that is already open, Yeah, and
• 45:35
  like oddly taking the bottom card off and not even looking at it and kind
• 45:38
  of posting his side like and then miraculously just revealing Ellie's one of one super
• 45:44
  fractor auto and everybody like no, like there's like if you pulled that card,
• 45:50
  you literally just pulled Like, I don't know what you want to say,
• 45:52
  twenty thirty grand out of a pack? I would say, no,
• 45:55
  I don't know, it's some crazy number. And the guy in the shop
• 46:00
  are like barely reacting. It's just like, oh, heaven forbid, this
• 46:05
  pulled this card, like and the guy's kind of like walking away, like,
• 46:07
  oh my goodness, so what did I do? Like like somebody pulled
• 46:12
  that elsewhere and then they staged the entire video. Yes, no doubt in
• 46:15
  my mind, I totally agree. And it's just like it's really strange like
• 46:20
  watching it because uh yeah, it's not even like very well executed, because
• 46:23
  I'll have to watch again. But it does also feel like the cards and
• 46:27
  the pack aren't even like collated correctly, where like it's not even backwards like
• 46:30
  those cards are backwards. Actually, it's like it doesn't take much sleuth thing
• 46:37
  to figure out this kind of stuff. And like, like I said,
• 46:39
  because it's just like it's just a machine, so like it can get re
• 46:45
  shared and re liked and kind of refed into everything that there's no there's no
• 46:51
  kind of like nothing stopping tops and fanatics from just creating an entire ridiculous bubble
• 46:58
  and just juicing all the money out of it that they can. Yeah,
• 47:00
  and that's why we've we've worn I think a lot of folks is we've talked
• 47:02
  about it. Be careful everything that's posted out there. It's the hits people
• 47:07
  don't post when they get robbed of three hundred bucks because they bought a hobby
• 47:12
  box and I had, you know, a Louis Varlin auto it right,
• 47:16
  they don't poste sorry Louis, but they don't. They don't post those and
• 47:22
  uh and when they do, it's the true collectors, right. It's the
• 47:23
  guys that out there that are just doing it for the fun of it,
• 47:27
  and they're just like, hey, not everything is all rosy, and yeah,
• 47:30
  it's it's it's unfortunate. And that's why I strongly advise being careful going
• 47:37
  out there. If you're buying a hobby bo box, buying a jumbo box,
• 47:40
  if you spent four hundred dollars on that, enjoy the rip like that
• 47:45
  the four hundred. Don't expect to get the value. Don't don't be playing
• 47:47
  on It is a gamble. It is four hundred dollars that you've paid for
• 47:51
  the experience of opening a box and maybe you get lucky with something. But
• 47:54
  if if you have that addictive personality like like my time, don't to get
• 48:02
  yourself in ripping. Go to card shows. Go go to card shops by
• 48:06
  singles, You're gonna enjoy the hobby a heck a lot more. Yeah,
• 48:09
  And I think even with that, like if you go back to our first
• 48:13
  episode when we talked about our favorite sets, I think that's a big thing
• 48:16
  to define as you're working your way through this hobby and getting into baseball cards
• 48:21
  is saying, hey, what do I want to collect? What do I
• 48:23
  like? Where am I comfortable, you know, losing money on investments and
• 48:30
  still enjoying the cards and you know, what are these things that I enjoy
• 48:35
  before I go into it and get caught up in the whirlwind of it because
• 48:37
  it can unravel really fast. Absolutely. But with that, let's go into
• 48:43
  a few of the new releases coming out on the calendar so you can get
• 48:45
  into that worldbind. I think the biggest edition that we've got from last week
• 48:51
  is July thirty first, So just next week we have twenty twenty four Tops
• 48:55
  Museum Collection coming out. So this is an annual that is on the upper
• 49:01
  end in terms of gorgeous patches. The base set design is grody this year.
• 49:08
  I will link to the checklist overview in the show notes, but it
• 49:14
  is an ugly base set design all the autos and cut autos and relics and
• 49:20
  stuff are beautiful because it is museum collection, but it does look like just
• 49:23
  last week they asked an intern to put together the base design set. Well,
• 49:28
  it's dreadful. I hadn't looked at you. That is just dreadful.
• 49:31
  So God. Then, the only other one that we had added to the
• 49:37
  schedule since last week is on August thirtieth, we have those tops complete sets
• 49:42
  coming out, so those will roll out into hobby shops with just different variations
• 49:47
  on some of the big rookie cards and able to hit like different autos and
• 49:53
  relics and things like that. So that is an annual tradition as well.
• 49:59
  But yeah, with that, we will wrap up kind of our news and
• 50:01
  notes section here and we will be back with our categories talk as we analyze
• 50:07
  players that might be going up or down in value because of trade trade deadline
• 50:13
  considerations. So stick around, all right, Welcome back everybody, as we
• 50:35
  get into our categories discussion, and we are going to talk about fantasy values
• 50:40
  that are either going up or going down in anticipation of next week's July thirtieth
• 50:45
  trade deadline. So especially this is your last weekend if you're playing in weekly
• 50:52
  fab leagues and weekly waiver wire leagues to be able to make moves and anticipation
• 50:58
  of this deadline. So this is especially where you can find probably the biggest
• 51:05
  arbitrage opportunities I think within season, because like, if you can read some
• 51:09
  of these situations correctly for your fantasy leagues, they can be game winners at
• 51:14
  this point because you are looking at two months of production and if you stumble
• 51:17
  your way into a new starting pitcher somebody with a significant role, or like
• 51:23
  a new closer, it's a pretty easy way to find a path to winning
• 51:30
  your league here down the stretch. On the flip side, like if you
• 51:32
  aren't paying attention and maybe are holding on too long to some of these players
• 51:37
  who, uh, we've got kind of like a nebulous blurb list of like
• 51:44
  players and playing situations and teams and everything. We just called it up arrow
• 51:49
  and down arrow and our our rundown. I'll maybe I'll just keep referring to
• 51:52
  it as that that like it's very rudimentary and feels very like caveman make fire.
• 51:58
  But up arrow, down arrow, these down arrows are they could be
• 52:01
  team killers that if you're not moving out from underneath these guys and trying to
• 52:06
  you know, move them right now on this weekend and finding a replacement.
• 52:10
  You could be stuck with them as they just kind of languish in bad situations
• 52:15
  on their either really bad team or get traded to a new situation where they
• 52:20
  don't have as significant of a role. So anything that you're trying to maximize
• 52:25
  around this time of the year brew as you're looking at pickups from free agents
• 52:30
  and waiver wires. Yeah, I think there's a few themes that you're you're
• 52:34
  always looking for. First of all, the easy one, closers is always
• 52:37
  the easy one to say, who who might be moving to a situation where
• 52:42
  they become a closer or they maintain the closure role or they lose their closure
• 52:45
  role, or when who's moving out and the next guy up becomes a closer.
• 52:49
  Sometimes that one's actually a little harder because sometimes the next guy cut up
• 52:52
  also moving moving in the in the trades, you know, So I think
• 52:57
  that that's that's a key one. Also looking at pictures, starting pictures to
• 53:00
  see who might be moving from a rough situation to a better situation. Just
• 53:04
  from a pure wins perspective, and then I think the kind of the last
• 53:08
  one is who's on a good team that's kind of at the back back end
• 53:15
  of that team that might be losing their role or diminished roles. Is that
• 53:19
  teams looking to kind of replenish. Like you're looking at all those those different
• 53:22
  factors, and usually the big names like their their value is not changing there.
• 53:28
  Yeah, they might be going to a different situation, but their values
• 53:30
  already kind of establishes what is playing time is not going to change. They're
• 53:32
  going to continue to produce. It's those guys on the kind of fringes and
• 53:37
  or pitching that really seem to change value. So I think that's the that's
• 53:42
  where we're looking, that's where we're focusing. Like I said, closers are
• 53:45
  the easy one because that's just a fun, fun market to play in.
• 53:47
  But overall, there's still a lot to like here and a lot of opportunity,
• 53:52
  and you're not going to be right on many of these, but that's
• 53:54
  the fun of it. Take to take a few dart throws, try to
• 53:58
  convince your league mate that they might be to be right, and maybe they
• 54:01
  are, maybe they're not. We'll see. Yeah, And I guess I
• 54:05
  was approaching this from a free agent waiver wire perspective, but like obviously some
• 54:08
  of these are trade candidates too, so trying to execute these trades over the
• 54:13
  next week. I mean, I think some of your league mates will see
• 54:15
  a coming a little bit, but maybe you can find some sort of like
• 54:20
  because the gap can be a little bit different, maybe you can find a
• 54:22
  little bit more opportunity than might what might traditionally be there. Absolutely, especially
• 54:29
  if you're on maybe the fringes, like going for a guy that like that
• 54:32
  the volatility of the situation is really questionable. Like that's the kind of guy
• 54:37
  you go for if you're on the fringes, you're trying to get a discount
• 54:38
  on somebody and you're trying to hit a home run. Like that's that's that's
• 54:42
  where's where it's all about. Yeah, Okay, well let's get into it.
• 54:45
  Because, like I said, we've got these up arrows, we've got
• 54:47
  down arrows, and we've got like five to six talking points I think underneath
• 54:52
  each because some are individual players, some are more situational. So this first
• 54:57
  one we have is actually two play together in a situation here in the South
• 55:01
  side of Chicago, and that is I think these probably have the most significant
• 55:06
  up arrows in terms of value going forward is Eric Vetti and Garrett Crochet from
• 55:12
  the White Sox both look to be out the door from Chicago. Fetti is
• 55:17
  absolutely being shipped out that I think he's actually probably gonna end up in Saint
• 55:22
  Louis personally, but we'll see when the desk subtles. But Fetti has been
• 55:27
  really like a godsend to the White Sox this year in terms of they signed
• 55:31
  him out of Korea at the beginning of the season and he's only making seven
• 55:37
  and a half million dollars. He does have a second year, but at
• 55:39
  this point, given that he's pitched to a two ninety eight ERA over one
• 55:44
  hundred and seventeen innings with a three sixty eight FIP and done all that in
• 55:49
  front of the White Sox defense, somebody's gonna gladly pay for seven and a
• 55:53
  half million dollars of Eric Vetti next year. And then with Garrett Crochet,
• 55:58
  he has been one of this magnificant breakouts obviously in our player pool this entire
• 56:02
  year. Even though I think whatever team he gets straighted to is going to
• 56:07
  start tapering his innings more and more the White Socks have done this. You
• 56:10
  know, his last start before the All Star break was only two innings.
• 56:16
  Obviously they don't want to damage their goods before the All Star break, but
• 56:20
  I think even after the trade deadline, the actual like Gara Crochet's innings will
• 56:29
  be reduced going forward because he's already at a career high with one hundred and
• 56:32
  seven point one, but he's thrown to a three h two area. And
• 56:37
  honestly, it's kind of been the conversation for the AlSi Young with threek' Scooble
• 56:42
  right now, so mostly right here. I mean, I don't even know
• 56:45
  if there's too much tough analysis, like you're gonna win more games than you're
• 56:49
  not on the White Sox, and these are two prime pitchers for that.
• 56:52
  Right this one's about as sybyl as it gets, like get out of the
• 56:57
  south side. And honestly, you said Eric Fetti, I was sitting here
• 57:00
  going the Washington Nationals aren't on the south side. Sorry, I was stuck
• 57:06
  in twenty twenty two with Fetti there. But you're right, like both of
• 57:08
  them, like the White Sox don't play with good defense, they don't play
• 57:12
  fundamentals like these guys are just getting it done on the back of our team
• 57:15
  Moldonado catching and being released, and you know there's only upside because you're going
• 57:22
  You're gonna be going to a playoff team, most likely a good playoff team
• 57:27
  that play solid defense is gonna get you some wins and you I got a
• 57:34
  guy like Fetti who's seven and three despite your point, the a incredible two
• 57:42
  and just doing all the little things right for for White Sox, and Crochet
• 57:45
  just even better. I think he's Crochet is actually the one I would actually
• 57:51
  be not as excited about because of the Indians taper here and the price you're
• 57:55
  gonna have to pay, right because whoever owns him like they've discovered him.
• 57:59
  It's different with Fedy, We're all like, yeah, but he can't sustain
• 58:01
  this right Still, it's Eric Fetty or Crochet like he seems like maybe he's
• 58:06
  coming into his own so I think he's gonna be a little harder to acquire,
• 58:09
  maybe make a trade. But Fetty absolutely, he's probably not on the
• 58:14
  waiver wire anywhere. But I wouldn't be surprised if there's a team, especially
• 58:17
  in a keeper league of some sort, that's willing to move him and if
• 58:22
  you need some wins, absolutely pick him up to your point. Cardinals,
• 58:27
  it does feel like a Cardinals move all over where Crochet feels like a Dodgers
• 58:31
  Dodgers Yankees Braves type move. So both of them would be great, and
• 58:40
  I just feel like croucheted the Braves, Like if you can't have a team
• 58:45
  that has the guys like Crochet and Strider and Freed and all like Schwellenbach,
• 58:51
  like they just look all those guys like steal the same guys, say they
• 58:54
  are all the same picture, long lanky guys that just sling it. It's
• 58:59
  not there. Yeah, I mean that's the White Sox guy. They keep
• 59:01
  drafting them too. But I do think like on Crochet, maybe there is
• 59:07
  like a little bit of an opportunity if the person who holds them is like
• 59:10
  really down on the innings and like really just trying to hedge their bets.
• 59:16
  But I mean, I think it's possible that Crochet still throws like four to
• 59:21
  five innings every week and when you paste that out with his ratios, like
• 59:27
  it's still pretty solid even if he's maybe not in line for wins. Just
• 59:30
  the strikeout volume alone, especially when you start condensing him into short or bursts,
• 59:36
  I think turns him into Andrew Miller. You know, you could see
• 59:39
  him almost in safe situations or something as especially whoever acquires him maybe moving Crochet
• 59:46
  into the bullpen for the playoffs anyway, so they're going to try to transassume
• 59:51
  him over the next couple months. On Fetti, I think there's also more
• 59:55
  kind of in that arsenal too, because he's throw a really really dirty slider
• 1:00:01
  that, like, when you're watching it all in concert together, I can
• 1:00:06
  see why he's not throwing the slider more because the current pitch mix kind of
• 1:00:09
  all works like he's got a sinker, he's got the change, he's got
• 1:00:15
  the cutter, he's got the slider, and they're all kind of breaking slightly
• 1:00:17
  differently when they come out the hand. But his slider is much much better
• 1:00:22
  than the rest of his pitch arsenal buy stuff. Plus that it's the only
• 1:00:27
  one that's over one hundred, and you could see maybe a more analytic team
• 1:00:31
  going to Eric Fetti and saying, hey, like throw that sucker more and
• 1:00:36
  getting more strikeouts out of that arm down the stretch. So I think those
• 1:00:39
  are both like even what if you're going out to acquire both of these players.
• 1:00:44
  I think there's even kind of upside to what they might be right now.
• 1:00:50
  Yeah, if the Rays acquire Fetti, I'm mean, yes, Okay.
• 1:00:54
  So the next one we've got is it's actually linked a little bit to
• 1:00:59
  that Boba Shet news that we had at the beginning of the show, and
• 1:01:02
  that is the up arrow that I'm slapping next to Spencer Horwitz from the Toronto
• 1:01:07
  Blue Jays. He's been playing second base there for the last month or so
• 1:01:14
  and is really firmly cemented himself into the two hole. As I mean,
• 1:01:20
  I still can't believe that it's ticking this long for Horwitz to get a shot,
• 1:01:23
  because, I mean, last year I had him in my Waiver Wire
• 1:01:25
  column. This year I did for a bit and he just kind of like
• 1:01:30
  hung out in triple A because the Blue Jays didn't have a great spot for
• 1:01:34
  him because he was a first baseman and was blocked by Vlad Junior. But
• 1:01:37
  we're like, hey, we'll try you at second base, and it's worked
• 1:01:39
  really well. He's put up a one to fifty one WRC plus and honestly,
• 1:01:45
  it looks great across the board. The bad ball profile looks fantastic.
• 1:01:49
  He's got a little bit of that Nacho Alvarez profile we were talking about earlier
• 1:01:53
  that I love in terms of when your walk rate and k rate are converging,
• 1:01:58
  converging in the team together like that is a fantastic hitter. And really
• 1:02:02
  my up arrow here for Spencer Horwitz is the Blue Jays are clean in house.
• 1:02:07
  I think at this deadline, as we talked about with the Bobaschett News
• 1:02:10
  that if there was any worries that you had about Spencer Horwitz holding down a
• 1:02:16
  job post deadline, I don't think you have to worry about that. That
• 1:02:21
  this guy is planted into the Blue Jays lineup for the rest of the year.
• 1:02:25
  My question to you is actually, what about keeper and dynasty leagues?
• 1:02:30
  Are you maybe moving in on sports Spencer Horwitz because I think he's the second
• 1:02:34
  baseman to start the year in twenty twenty five in Toronto as well. Yeah,
• 1:02:38
  I am slightly moving in. I've got like Alan Craig vibes of Spencer
• 1:02:43
  Horwitz here, like older guy coming up the he he was actually a high
• 1:02:49
  second round draft pick like he he was, but he just it took him
• 1:02:52
  quite some time to make it through the miners and get that chance. But
• 1:02:55
  he's got that vibe of just a release above average, got Lane Thomas type
• 1:03:02
  of style across the board, right, And I really like that because he's
• 1:03:07
  never going to demand the biggest return or cost to get him. So I
• 1:03:14
  am like middle infield type scenario and dynasty. I'm really excited about him because
• 1:03:19
  I think he could play a very high quality middle infield. You could argue,
• 1:03:23
  maybe see it on the back end, depending on how he finishes kind
• 1:03:27
  of developing here over the next year or two, that he could sneak into
• 1:03:30
  like the top twelve second basemen things like that. So I like him,
• 1:03:36
  and the more I've looked at him, I'm like, I just don't see
• 1:03:38
  a big issue. I don't see a problem with that profile. Like it's
• 1:03:44
  just really really strong. So yeah, I'm giving a shot And the only
• 1:03:47
  problem is if they tear it down in Toronto, there's nobody to hit around
• 1:03:52
  him. Yeah. The other guy kind of reminds me of two is like
• 1:03:54
  a left handed Justin Turner as well, where it's just like, is going
• 1:04:00
  to be your problem with Spencer Horowitz when you're playing him in a second base
• 1:04:02
  m my situation, but especially if you are not in a or if you're
• 1:04:09
  in a spot where you know you've got a little extra speed at other positions
• 1:04:14
  and can sacrifice it for I mean, I think Horwitz would be something like
• 1:04:17
  a two eighty twenty to twenty five Homers with like eighty runs, eighty to
• 1:04:25
  ninety runs, eighty ninety RBI like sort of bat. Like that's a really
• 1:04:29
  really solid bat. Yeah. I think Turner is a really good comp there.
• 1:04:32
  You consider it. Well, not the turn of Thiss in Toronto right
• 1:04:34
  now, I wouldn't use I'd use the Boston version. Okay. Yeah,
• 1:04:39
  so just like last year, Yeah, maybe you give me a little bit
• 1:04:42
  of Dodger's version was good last year. It was good last year. That's
• 1:04:45
  good last year. Okay. Next guy that we have as an up arrow,
• 1:04:48
  And I'm excited for this one because I get to hear you talk about
• 1:04:53
  one of your favorite players in our fantasy player pool. That is Jazz Chisholm
• 1:04:57
  from the Miami Marlins. He looks like he's should be on the move.
• 1:05:00
  Atlanta's in the talks with him, and I think, I mean, there's
• 1:05:04
  lots of teams Honestly, the Dodgers could find a spot for him. That
• 1:05:09
  this is a little bit like the Fetti Crochet situation, where I think it's
• 1:05:14
  pretty straightforward that if Jazz Chisholm moves out of Miami, not only are you
• 1:05:17
  automatically pretty much getting an upgrade on the park because lone depot park for a
• 1:05:23
  home park is just a really tough place to hit, but the lineup around
• 1:05:29
  Jazz Chislm has also just been absolutely awful, as you alluded to earlier with
• 1:05:33
  their bottom three offense, and you can just see it in terms of like
• 1:05:39
  what he's pacing to like despite pacing towards something like a low twenties homers and
• 1:05:46
  like thirty stolen bases, he's only going to put up like six mid sixties
• 1:05:50
  runs and you know, maybe seventy and same thing on the RBI side.
• 1:05:56
  That it's been tough for Jazz Chislm to get any of those counting stats going
• 1:06:00
  for you, despite some pretty good production from him over all. But yeah,
• 1:06:03
  I just want to hear from you that you are enjoying Jazz Chisholm maybe
• 1:06:09
  going up in value and seeing a buying opportunity on him, because I know
• 1:06:12
  he's been somebody you've been down on. You're not going to get me off
• 1:06:15
  the shine on this one. Not getting me off the schnine on this one.
• 1:06:20
  And there's nothing about Jess Schislm's talent, Like this guy's talented, he
• 1:06:25
  absolutely is, but he's made of Lewis Robert Glass. Like that's the problem
• 1:06:31
  here, you know, he he I think he's in conversation. Go to
• 1:06:34
  to New York to play in the Bronx, and you know, if you
• 1:06:38
  look at his production there in that short porch he's going after, you know,
• 1:06:44
  go to stack Cast, they do the water for projections with overlabor every
• 1:06:45
  park. You know, he's got nineteen homers on the season already liked man
• 1:06:50
  exactly, like there's there. You can easily see that. You see it
• 1:06:54
  in the great lineups. The production goes up things like that. I think
• 1:06:58
  that you know, you're gonna have to pay for that expectation at full health.
• 1:07:02
  And that's my problem with Jazz is that wherever he moves, everybody's gonna
• 1:07:06
  assume he's one hundred percent healthy. They're gonna just take it straight line up
• 1:07:12
  and call him a top thirty hitter, and he's not. He's not because
• 1:07:15
  he can't stay healthy. From a talent perspective, he is like you look
• 1:07:19
  at him, it's like his Julio. He gets Julio type numbers, except
• 1:07:26
  that I just don't know if that he can stay healthy. And this is
• 1:07:30
  just blasting coming from a guy that can't. For the life of not draft
• 1:07:32
  a guy that's gonna be hurt. And that's uh, that's the challenge I
• 1:07:39
  have with with Jazz. So people are if he get moves, he's gonna
• 1:07:43
  be a big name that moves. People are gonna be hyping on him.
• 1:07:45
  They're gonna be trying to buy him. I'm gonna let him at grant.
• 1:07:48
  I don't have any shares, So who am I to talk? Yeah,
• 1:07:51
  but I mean because of that, like now might be the time to do
• 1:07:54
  it before he does move, especially you know, if you're you know,
• 1:07:57
  your lead competition, maybe if you are in a home league where they aren't
• 1:08:00
  quite as in tune to all of like the comings and goings, like maybe
• 1:08:04
  this is the time to swoop in on Jazz Chisholm. Yeah, I don't
• 1:08:09
  disagree. It's just not gonna be me doing it. Okay, Well,
• 1:08:13
  with the next player in situation, we're gonna stick down to Miami because oddly
• 1:08:16
  I might be endorsing buying aj Puck because he has really put it back together
• 1:08:24
  since moving to the bullpen of late. So he's moved himself into the setup
• 1:08:30
  role down there in Miami, and especially since let me see, especially when
• 1:08:34
  this run kind of started. You can see it right when he got back
• 1:08:40
  from like an injury or something around like mid June. You can see like
• 1:08:45
  since June fourteenth, he's thrown. He's thrown seventeen a third innings with a
• 1:08:53
  point five two ERA and a twelve point four twelve and a half K nine
• 1:09:00
  one and a half walks per nine. The prime reliever AJ Puck is back
• 1:09:05
  after the experiment when the starting rotation went very poorly to begin the season.
• 1:09:12
  And so this is more of just kind of like a signal flare, like,
• 1:09:15
  hey, it looks like Darren Scott's getting moved down in Miami. AJ
• 1:09:19
  Puck has been solid already for a month and a half, Like he's been
• 1:09:24
  producing as a one of those elite relievers that we would consider using even without
• 1:09:29
  a closure job. And if he's adding saves on top of it, wow,
• 1:09:33
  lookout and maybe even another situation like Spencer Horwitz. We've talked about this
• 1:09:39
  over the past couple pods. Are you going out there and in dynasty keeper
• 1:09:43
  situations? Also maybe trying to add Ajpuck this weekend before the trade deadline,
• 1:09:48
  because if this keeps up, he should be the closer in Miami in twenty
• 1:09:53
  twenty five. Yeah, of all the guys we're talking about, he's probably
• 1:09:57
  number two on my list of intriguing scenario is that I'd be going after We'll
• 1:10:00
  talk about the other one in the second here, because he's so dreadful at
• 1:10:06
  the beginning of the season in a different role that his value is low from
• 1:10:11
  a trademarket perspective, that nobody wants to fully invest in Puck over like fifteen
• 1:10:16
  to twenty innings being back in the reliever role, but because we all think
• 1:10:20
  it's true, but we're not quite sure, so you don't want to pay
• 1:10:23
  that. And he's still got some some some time before he becomes a free
• 1:10:28
  agent, I believe so Tanner Scott's very very likely gone. Another discussion as
• 1:10:33
  far as where the arrow might be going down with Tanner Scott, But I
• 1:10:38
  like Puck here. He has a game, give up a run, in
• 1:10:40
  the last month, he's got a six six to zero point three K to
• 1:10:45
  walk ratio. He's been just lights out for the last thirty days. So
• 1:10:50
  I like Puck, and to your point, he in my strategy here with
• 1:10:54
  a guy like Puck, especially in the keeper scenario, I'm going to that
• 1:10:57
  team that has Puck and I'm making a trade for a better player, and
• 1:11:01
  I'm overpaying for that better play and or tossing Puck on as the as the
• 1:11:05
  kicker. I'm trying trying to smoke shield by way through into getting a really
• 1:11:12
  interesting closure for the next next year. Yeah, I mean, and honestly,
• 1:11:15
  I think that would make him with if he keeps these ratios up.
• 1:11:19
  Like obviously the element of pressure on Puck is gonna we'll see how he reacts
• 1:11:24
  to that. But he closed last year at times and looked okay, And
• 1:11:28
  I think he would immediately enter as like a top ten closer given that,
• 1:11:32
  like he can keep generating twelve plus knine and only walking one and a half,
• 1:11:39
  I mean, that's pretty elite. Yeah, I'll take it. It's
• 1:11:43
  basically Tan or Scott, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Okay. Well,
• 1:11:47
  the other up arrow that we have is I want to get your feel here
• 1:11:51
  on the Washington Nationals bullpen, because it is I think just a matter of
• 1:11:56
  time before Kyle Finnegan is sent out of town and they cash in that chip.
• 1:12:00
  As the Nationals have already traded Hunter Harvey and have already told other teams
• 1:12:05
  that hey, we're gonna soft sell some of these pieces around the deadline,
• 1:12:10
  as they have other outfielders and other pieces that can move because they look primed
• 1:12:15
  for twenty twenty five. And if they can rebuild with some minor leaguers that
• 1:12:19
  are close to the majors here over the next week, the Nationals could be
• 1:12:24
  kind of dangerous next year. But with Finnigan possibly moving out of that role
• 1:12:30
  in Washington, who is your number one target after he possibly leaves? Well,
• 1:12:35
  I think that's the challenge with the Nationals. I don't know, like
• 1:12:41
  this is the new up arrowing out of any of them, I guess I
• 1:12:44
  at this point, I don't think I really have much of an up arrow
• 1:12:46
  out there in Washington. I think there's maybe some what i'd call interesting names,
• 1:12:51
  but there's not a clear guy, and I don't think there's a clear
• 1:12:57
  set of skills that really right is the top says yes, this is the
• 1:13:01
  guy that that it should be. You know, you look at that bullpen
• 1:13:06
  and like I want to say, like, well, Tanner Rainey's been before,
• 1:13:11
  Robert Garcia's actually looked pretty good. Dylan Floro's tried it before. So
• 1:13:17
  if if I have to go, maybe I'm going Garcia here as far as
• 1:13:21
  a guy that I would maybe give a dart throw too, But I just
• 1:13:30
  we're talking about a guy a second year in the league. He's twenty eight.
• 1:13:32
  I don't know how, you know, total of like seventy eights in
• 1:13:35
  his career. Do I do? I trust it? I'm not sure,
• 1:13:41
  but I guess putting the hand the fire, Robert Garcia is the guy that
• 1:13:44
  I'd be parking out there in in DC and hoping, hoping for the best.
• 1:13:50
  I don't know. Did I get the right guy? I'm just not
• 1:13:54
  sure. In the in this bullpen, I think so. I think that's
• 1:13:58
  probably the number one target there in terms of I mean, those sixty six
• 1:14:02
  and two thirds innings over the past two years have been really good. It's
• 1:14:06
  a two ninety nine FIP, so the four or five era makes it look
• 1:14:11
  worse than it actually is. Double digit K nine. Maybe my one concern
• 1:14:16
  is he is left handed, so even with the good stuff profile, like
• 1:14:20
  maybe they want to keep him as a lefty specialist. I think my other
• 1:14:26
  kind of like dark horse here is actually Derek law in terms of I've always
• 1:14:31
  liked him for I can't wow. Yeah, he was drafted in twenty eleven,
• 1:14:36
  and it's crazy that he's kind of been like on my radar that long,
• 1:14:42
  as he's worked his way through the San Francisco system and then bounced around
• 1:14:45
  since then. But this is a little bit reminds me more of trying to
• 1:14:51
  think of like who the equivalent of this would be. It's almost like more
• 1:14:55
  of like a Luis Garcia situation, know where like you just get a long
• 1:15:00
  time reliever and finally he gets a shot at being a closer and just kind
• 1:15:04
  of relishes in the situation. It does appear that, you know, he's
• 1:15:09
  got the thing, the tools to be a pretty solid reliever. You know,
• 1:15:13
  has run a mid three cra for the past few years. And let
• 1:15:17
  me check his stuff numbers. I don't think they're overwhelming, but they will
• 1:15:21
  probably get the job done. And yeah, he's got an above average stuff
• 1:15:27
  plus slider and above average cutter that he can work with. And so I
• 1:15:31
  think if you're looking for like a one A one B, and especially in
• 1:15:35
  some pretty sharp leagues like in one of ours in our autnew league, like
• 1:15:40
  Robert Garcia already got snatched up. As people are kind of playing the game
• 1:15:45
  that we are right here on the podcast, Derek Lock could be a pretty
• 1:15:49
  good dart throw in terms of if you're just trying to chase a couple saves
• 1:15:54
  down the stretch. The Nationals team should still be pretty solid around him that
• 1:15:59
  I think he gonna give a chance for you know, there's probably ten or
• 1:16:04
  twelve saves still left in the Nationals and it's just a matter of like where
• 1:16:08
  they go between Long Garcia, you know, ten or twelve saves left in
• 1:16:14
  the Nationals. That might be the bold prediction for the for the second half.
• 1:16:16
  So it's not too absurd, all right, Well, that would be
• 1:16:25
  crazy if that ends up being like the boldest prediction we get. The last
• 1:16:30
  up era we have is mostly we've been talking about this all summer and it's
• 1:16:34
  finally come to fruition. If you've been stashing any of those Baltimore prospects,
• 1:16:41
  not only like kursed Ed and Norby, who will likely be trade fodder for
• 1:16:45
  next week. But also you're looking at Kobe Mayo, this is a great
• 1:16:49
  time for him to come up because if they can move some players off the
• 1:16:54
  forty man roster down in Baltimore, you open up that pathway for Mayo to
• 1:16:58
  be able to be promoted and just anybody else who's struggling to find like just
• 1:17:03
  full path to playing time because it's so crowded down in Baltimore. Just look
• 1:17:09
  at their Triple A squad and you can probably run through it and maybe identify
• 1:17:13
  a few I think, especially the deeper the league you go, if you're
• 1:17:15
  in an ale only league, like it is worth going through their Triple A
• 1:17:19
  squad and just seeing, you know, hey, like you could maybe get
• 1:17:25
  in on Kyle Stowers. Like Kyle Stowers I think is certainly a good chance
• 1:17:30
  to go. Garrett Cooper's hanging out down there, who could like play corner
• 1:17:34
  for quite a few major league clubs, and so like there's talent Nick Maton's
• 1:17:39
  down there too. Wow, Okay, it is a very loaded system,
• 1:17:43
  and that's not even like Double A. I think if you want to get
• 1:17:46
  a really really bold prediction, there's some pathway that they open up for Basillo.
• 1:17:50
  You know, yeah, I thought you were or or Dylan Beaver's I
• 1:17:57
  want I want Dylan Beavers in the Lea as soon as we can. But
• 1:18:00
  any of these guys really striking your fancy that like if you had, let's
• 1:18:04
  say, you had to really put your feet to the fire and pick one
• 1:18:11
  for rest of season between like mostly Kurse Dad Norby Mayo. I mean,
• 1:18:16
  I guess if you want to go Stours, I'll throw Stours in there,
• 1:18:18
  but that'd be a very situation dependent which of those are you targeting? If
• 1:18:26
  you've only got one spot, I give you like one dollar to spend on
• 1:18:29
  fab this weekend. Yeah, I think it's a great call. And the
• 1:18:32
  other thing that we didn't mention is that the Orioles have kind of put out
• 1:18:35
  there that they're willing to move Ryan Mountcutt Castle and Cedric Bullins like, which
• 1:18:41
  I think is like almost like addition by subtraction type of thing here with what
• 1:18:45
  you're being replaced. But if I got my one dollar, I'm going with
• 1:18:48
  Heston kerstad I think, and the reason not he's not the best talent of
• 1:18:54
  that group. It's probably Mayo, but I think karstad By being on the
• 1:18:59
  roster. He's already getting that experience, and that signals that the Orioles don't
• 1:19:03
  think he has anything less to do in the minors, and so he's they're
• 1:19:08
  trying to get him that playing time and it's just a matter of time where
• 1:19:11
  they open that up and give it to him. And so I think he's
• 1:19:14
  one a the guy that's gonna benefit from anybody moving because he's got enough versatility
• 1:19:21
  and they've got enough guys that can kind of move around that I think he's
• 1:19:25
  the one that gets the biggest benefit if they move one or two of these
• 1:19:29
  guys. I do think, you know, Norby might get a call up.
• 1:19:34
  I think it was maybe a little further off with with some of those
• 1:19:38
  calls, but yeah, I got if I got one. I'm taking a
• 1:19:41
  crestat here because I think he really after the deadline here, I think he's
• 1:19:45
  a full time guy the rest of the season, and he's been really,
• 1:19:49
  really good. I think he you know, he had a rough start to
• 1:19:53
  his career for sure, but ever since he's really come back, been fully
• 1:19:59
  healthy last two years, He's hit everywhere he's been. So I'm a hesting
• 1:20:03
  carestad truther for through and through and he's we're on a spin of my dollar.
• 1:20:09
  Okay, disagree, or you got a different guy you're chasing. No,
• 1:20:12
  I think that's probably the right choice, because either he's leaving town or
• 1:20:17
  he's taken Ryan Mountcastle or Cedric Mullens a spot in a lineup, so he's
• 1:20:21
  playing regardless. Yeah, I mean, I think the bigger thing is I'm
• 1:20:26
  gonna throw it back lot of back to you. You think that he is
• 1:20:29
  getting that opportunity in Baltimore or do you think it's coming somewhere else. I
• 1:20:31
  think it's happened in Baltimore. I think if they really wanted him him as
• 1:20:36
  trade podder, he would be in Triple A right now. He they would
• 1:20:40
  be getting full time playing time and putting up numbers. And so that's why
• 1:20:44
  I think if you're I think they're really going to try to move Mullins in
• 1:20:47
  Mountcastle because I think Bollens has kind of time is a little bit done there.
• 1:20:51
  But I think the one that actually probably gets moved is probably it's probably
• 1:20:56
  Stours or Norby. I think Norby is probably the guy to me that it's
• 1:21:00
  moved. I don't. I just don't think they see him as big of
• 1:21:02
  a long term part of their their team as Asano or Mayo or anything like
• 1:21:08
  that. So, uh, my bold prediction here is that we have Connor
• 1:21:13
  Orby on a new team, uh, Cedric Mullins on a new team and
• 1:21:17
  has some Kurestad's full time playing for the Baltimore Orioles. Yeah, I think
• 1:21:23
  you're You're probably correct there. I mean, I think maybe the one thing
• 1:21:27
  that could like get them to move Kurstad is if the White Sox like made
• 1:21:32
  it a deal breaker on Crochet or he's gone there. He's absolutely gone if
• 1:21:39
  that's the case, but like something to that level where like, you know,
• 1:21:43
  the the Orioles try to hand over Norby and Stours and the other team
• 1:21:47
  is like, no, it's got to be Kurestad. I mean, the
• 1:21:49
  biggest problem with this is the usually we may we make both predictions for the
• 1:21:53
  whole season or two months away, we've already forgotten about him. We're gonna
• 1:21:56
  come back next week and talk about what we just talked about and how vastly
• 1:22:00
  wrong we were. But that's the beauty of it, So lock it in.
• 1:22:04
  That's my prediction. I'm mostly yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
• 1:22:06
  So with that, let's move on to our few down arrows, So I
• 1:22:12
  think a lot of these are a little bit more self explanatory, like the
• 1:22:16
  White Sox and Marlin situations we were just discussing, but mostly also to kind
• 1:22:21
  of like send a signal flare out here for people to say, Hey,
• 1:22:26
  if you've got any of these guys in your roster, like you've got to
• 1:22:29
  be making a contingency plan right now to start figuring out like what you're going
• 1:22:33
  to do with them, because I think all of them could be winding up
• 1:22:38
  in some tougher situations than you had anticipated. So our first one hurts because
• 1:22:43
  it is one of the princes of this podcast and especially of my writing this
• 1:22:53
  week, your year writing this year on Rasball, and that is Tommy fam
• 1:22:57
  outfielder for the White Sox, big down earrow, mostly because he's been hitting
• 1:23:01
  at the top of the White Sox lineup, in the one through three spot,
• 1:23:04
  because it's the White Sox. Wherever he goes. I was trying to
• 1:23:10
  look at a situation where maybe he could still hit in the middle of the
• 1:23:13
  order, but I think if he goes to any contender, he's either in
• 1:23:16
  a fourth outfield or batting at the bomb of the order. So that's really
• 1:23:20
  the consideration here unless any situations you can maybe think of where like Fam could
• 1:23:27
  still maintain his value if he was traded there. Yeah, I think I'm
• 1:23:31
  gonna make I'm just full of old predictions. Yeah, you're ready to go.
• 1:23:35
  After I went to Basio, You're just like, Wow, you're going
• 1:23:40
  there. I'm pushing it. The only one that I could see would may
• 1:23:44
  potentially the twins. The twins have have gone records saying that they're not adding
• 1:23:49
  payroll, and so FAM, you know, more or less, is not
• 1:23:55
  adding payroll, and they're they're also if they're gonna be making some moves,
• 1:24:00
  they're gonna be subtracting some guys, like a couple or something like that.
• 1:24:03
  And so I could see Fam kind of back in the playing time they're there
• 1:24:08
  with the with the twins, But I that's I just don't know that that's
• 1:24:12
  gonna happen, especially within the division. So I think you're right. He
• 1:24:15
  he is the prime guy to be on a Yankee squad, a Dodger squad,
• 1:24:24
  Houston like going to the Bronx. We're sorry. Skill set, Yeah,
• 1:24:30
  you're right, Tommy Fam Like he's got a whole other personality with every
• 1:24:33
  where's the go Uh he does he not strike you as being on the Dodgers,
• 1:24:38
  Like, I don't know about it. It just feels like he's gonna
• 1:24:41
  be a bench guy on the Dodgers and he's just gonna be hanging out there
• 1:24:44
  on the bench with Jason Hayward trying to get healthy and like all these random
• 1:24:46
  guys that just have like little warts about him, but they can catch light
• 1:24:51
  in the model. So I can't stop joking with my wife that, like,
• 1:24:55
  I can't wait for Jack Flarerty and Tommy Fan to be back on the
• 1:24:58
  Cardinals this time next week. Oh, that'd be so fun. They would
• 1:25:04
  hate it so much, they would hate us so much. And I feel
• 1:25:08
  like the Cardinals fans would be just calling for John Mosaic's resignation. Like,
• 1:25:13
  No, I would love it. I would love it because they're the right
• 1:25:15
  guys to kind of bring in. But'll be like, yeah, you like
• 1:25:18
  you gave up on these guys, you trade them away. They became amazing,
• 1:25:21
  Like everybody who trade away and now you bring them back, get out
• 1:25:26
  of here. Yeah. The other one is Milwaukee, Like Tommy Fan being
• 1:25:30
  a Milwaukee Brewer almost feels predestined. Yeah, yeah, I could. I
• 1:25:32
  can see that Berni Brewer they would appreciate. Tommy fans, Yes, I
• 1:25:38
  absolutely love him. I think the other outfielder that we have with a down
• 1:25:43
  arrow next to them that's in that same sort of vein as Lane Thomas from
• 1:25:45
  the Washington Nationals. I think the same sort of situation where he is a
• 1:25:49
  key cog for the Nationals, gets tons of playing time, doesn't have to
• 1:25:55
  worry about anybody coming for his job. But I think when he finds himself
• 1:25:59
  on a contender, could be pushed to a fringe spot in the lineup and
• 1:26:03
  maybe even be battling for like a fourth outfielder sort of situation. It's not
• 1:26:09
  like he's got a world beating you approach at the plate in terms of his
• 1:26:15
  I guess I haven't checked in on him a little bit, so I should
• 1:26:16
  say. I mean, yeah, he's exactly averages a w RC plus of
• 1:26:20
  one hundred. He's been a negative in the field, so I think it
• 1:26:25
  is really a good time for the Nationals to cash in that chip. But
• 1:26:29
  along with that, because he's been such a good source of stolen bases at
• 1:26:32
  the twenty five bags this year, Lane Thomas in Washington, they've also just
• 1:26:38
  kind of let anybody and everybody run because it's kind of like who the hell
• 1:26:42
  cares, so a situation like out in Anaheim with the Angels in Ron Washington.
• 1:26:47
  That honestly, like, if you see Lane Thomas end up in a
• 1:26:53
  situation where he's moving down towards the bomb of the order and he's on just
• 1:26:58
  a less aggressive team, might just be fully droppable considering he's only hitting two
• 1:27:02
  forty six. Uh anything you think I'm often in terms of Lane Thomas's profile
• 1:27:08
  there, No, Yeah, We've like we've talked about Laane Thomas a lot
• 1:27:13
  on this spot in the past, like he is that kind of uh fringe
• 1:27:15
  guy that has just always really been good, but nothing behind it supports that
• 1:27:20
  he should be that good. And I think you're absolutely right. The speed
• 1:27:24
  that we see with Laane Thomas this here is not Lay Thomas is fast and
• 1:27:27
  he can run. It's but it's it's because nobody cares. Nobody cares,
• 1:27:31
  and there's and there's nobody like you're not trying to protect the next bat or
• 1:27:34
  something like that. You know, Steve Jaybers has already run around the bases
• 1:27:38
  once before him, so what does it matter? And I do think I
• 1:27:42
  don't see him being a fourth outfielder somewhere because he's He's got enough pettigrew over
• 1:27:46
  the last few years that I think somebody's investing in him to bring him in
• 1:27:49
  to be a guy that's gonna fit. And I think it's gonna be a
• 1:27:55
  trade off. I think Thomas what he's gonna lose in speed will pick up
• 1:27:58
  in counting stats and maybe even a little power because he's gonna get some protectional
• 1:28:01
  lineup, which would be really nice from him. But ultimately, I do
• 1:28:06
  think that Lane Thomas is not going to get a positive outcome here. He's
• 1:28:11
  no longer the guy or one of the top guys. He's he's kind of
• 1:28:15
  plugging a hole for a team that doesn't need to rely on Lane Thomas.
• 1:28:19
  Yep, I totally agree. Okay, the next guy that we have,
• 1:28:24
  the next bat is here we go. This might actually be the boldest prediction
• 1:28:29
  the entire pod. I actually think that the Rockies are gonna sell finally,
• 1:28:33
  Like I think they're gonna move some players here, and I think like they've
• 1:28:38
  seen enough of these deadlines go by where they don't do anything and I have
• 1:28:43
  not gotten any better that it's time to finally move on from some of these
• 1:28:46
  pieces. With that, I think Elias Diaz is probably the number one piece
• 1:28:51
  that can go from the Colorado Rockies. He is a free agent after this
• 1:28:57
  year. He is a solid catcher. You know, he can spell it.
• 1:29:02
  It reminds me a lot of like when Christian Vasquez moved a couple of
• 1:29:04
  years ago, where it's like he's a fringe number one catcher, super solid
• 1:29:09
  number two catcher, experienced backup can like I mean, he's never really been
• 1:29:14
  in a playoff race, maybe like Pittsburgh in his early years, but like
• 1:29:18
  just experience with working with lots of pitchers and just has that presence in the
• 1:29:25
  clubhouse to be able to be thirty three years old and try to provide some
• 1:29:29
  semblance of just level headedness that he's going And I think immediately when you do
• 1:29:36
  that, all of his value was tied to being the catcher for the Rockies.
• 1:29:41
  And so this is kind of a warning that if you are rostering him,
• 1:29:45
  relying on him anywhere, certainly the catcher pool has dried up across the
• 1:29:50
  league. But now is your time to maybe make a move for maybe Kyle
• 1:29:55
  Goshijoka is still hanging out there for you or somebody else who's kind of come
• 1:30:00
  up and up over the past month to be able to move on from the
• 1:30:02
  last yas because I wish you would be Drew Romo that walks into that spot,
• 1:30:06
  and we were trying to predict that the other week. But I'm not
• 1:30:09
  sure the Rockies are going to go that Bowld. I'm not going to go
• 1:30:12
  that bold prediction where I think Drew Romo walks into the full time playing spot.
• 1:30:16
  But are you going to You're going to beat that Drew Romo stan here,
• 1:30:20
  No, I'm I just the Rockies still. They just can't do They
• 1:30:24
  can't promote anybody with anything. So but I think I think you're right.
• 1:30:29
  Diez fits that like great backup catcher scenario here that you want in the playoffs,
• 1:30:36
  you want on your team. He hits for average, he's you know,
• 1:30:41
  very just, he's solid all all around the play You know, there's
• 1:30:47
  not a big problem here with Diz. But he's also probably not a starter
• 1:30:51
  on twenty eight twenty seven other teams in the in the majors, So I
• 1:30:59
  think he's most likely gone. If you were roster room in Frobbly the two
• 1:31:01
  catcher leaguees, probably because he does hit for a decent average, not the
• 1:31:04
  power or anything that he's been doing. But yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:31:09
  I think he's on a different team come this time next week. Okay.
• 1:31:13
  Then the next kind of category grouping we have is and this happens every year.
• 1:31:17
  This is kind of the classic, like you've been holding this closer on
• 1:31:19
  a bad team all year and this is where the rubber finally hits the road
• 1:31:24
  in terms of having to find different uses for these players are just fully moving
• 1:31:30
  on. So we've got three players in this bucket between Hector Naris, Tanner
• 1:31:34
  Scott, Mason Miller of the Cubs, Marlins, and Athletics, respectively.
• 1:31:41
  All of them have been in trade rumors and have all been pretty steady closers
• 1:31:47
  here this year in terms of fantasy that Tanner, Scott and Narie both kind
• 1:31:54
  of started off on steady but have really righted the ship of late and have
• 1:31:59
  turned into fantastic closers over the past month or so. Mason Miller's been lights
• 1:32:03
  out all year. We saw it in the All Star Game just the other
• 1:32:06
  week. I think of the three, he's probably the least likely to move.
• 1:32:12
  But honestly, that doesn't make sense to me. Like this dude throws
• 1:32:15
  one O four and had a sprain UCL last year that Oakland needs to cash
• 1:32:20
  in this trade chip while they can, But any of them, let's say,
• 1:32:26
  I'm also maybe I will also set Miller to the side, because I
• 1:32:29
  do think that, like whatever situation he ends up in, he's been so
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  superlative that he either becomes the closer or is good enough with the ratios in
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  a Garrett Crochet situation that he's still rosterable. Do you think I'm off base
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  there? No, And going back to your primary point, I just don't
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  think they're gonna move them. I think, you know, I saw a
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  suggestion from an esteem rider somewhere that the a should move Mason Miller for a
• 1:32:59
  rotation piece for rotation prospects, and I'm sitting here going the A's think Mason
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  Miller is a rotation prospect, and so I don't think that they're going to
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  move him. I also think that he is their all star. He is
• 1:33:11
  actually a draw for that team that's really struggling. I think that they're going
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  to keep him around. There's no need to move him. This year,
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  you know. Besides, what you're saying is that he may fall apart tomorrow.
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  So I wouldn't be surprising he moved. I just don't think he's going
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  to. But to your point, even if he does, he still has
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  value. Hector Arris, I don't think has any value once he's moved.
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  I do not think he's closing anywhere that he would get traded to Tanner Scott
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  though, I do think he has an outside shot at closing depending on where
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  he goes. And I'm thinking like Baltimore. You know, he goes there
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  and you've got the Kimberl Show that you know, I would be shocked that
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  they're like, let's move the Kimberl Show to the to fire him duty here.
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  So I think you know that he has a shot to depend where he
• 1:34:04
  goes to kind of write the ship in me Philadelphia as well. So he's
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  the one that I'm I'm not gonna say buying. But if somebody is trying
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  to dump him, saying, oh, he's you know, trying to trick
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  everybody that he's knocked, you know, he's a closer and really been trying
• 1:34:24
  to pull one over on you because they think he's going to lose the job.
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  I might be willing to take that gambled, depending on the cost.
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  I might be willing to take that if if it's a keeper league and I'm
• 1:34:32
  giving up a you know, middling prospect or something like that, Yeah,
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  I'll take a gamble on Tanner Scott. Yeah. I was about to slam
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  you because you were smirching Craig Kimberl's great name. And then I looked at
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  his last two games since I guess one was before the astar break in the
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  fourteen Not good, Bob, Like the walks are back and that's not he
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  was crazy good for were like two months there that Like, honestly, I
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  didn't even look. It's just kay, Craig Kimberl a profile at this point,
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  the roller coaster and you just don't know when you're gonna get on or
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  off. And I don't think Baltimore wants to be on that roller coaster.
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  In the playoffs. Yeah, okay, there was a stretch there where he
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  threw twenty one innings like from May tenth to July seventh, allowed one run
• 1:35:25
  with thirty one strikeouts to five walks. He was crazy. And then yeah,
• 1:35:28
  the past two, the walks are starting to come back. He's had
• 1:35:31
  three walks in his past two innings, and that's not what you want to
• 1:35:35
  see if you're a Craig Kimberl owner. And as the kind of pressure ratchets
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  up, and don't forget, how good was Craig kimber in the playoffs last
• 1:35:44
  year for Philadelphia. Yeah not yes, not good. So I think the
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  Orioles are looking ahead here. So apparently my all eyebold predictions are basically the
• 1:35:54
  Oriels are going to turn the roster at the trade deadline, so the first
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  place just float all up. I am here, though, to push back
• 1:36:02
  a little bit on Hector Naries, just because honestly, I don't know if
• 1:36:06
  I would have necessarily noticed this too much, except for I was covering him
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  last night in my game write ups for rote A Wire, and he has
• 1:36:17
  been really good recently, Like he had a bad stretch in the middle of
• 1:36:21
  June, but then he righted the ship. Because he's got a little bit
• 1:36:25
  like that Craig Kimberle issue too, where when it's going, it looks absolutely
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  unhittable, but when it's not going, he's walking the world and just giving
• 1:36:32
  up Taters since June twenty second, so just you know, over the past
• 1:36:39
  month he hasn't allowed to run. He's got four saves. It's only eight
• 1:36:44
  innings of work, but it's been a good hector Naris that like, if
• 1:36:47
  we'd had this conversation a couple of weeks ago, I don't think I would
• 1:36:50
  have even had him in here, because I don't think anybody would be interested.
• 1:36:55
  But relievers are so fickle that like it only takes a small run to
• 1:37:00
  kind of get back into people's good graces. And even though there's a down
• 1:37:03
  arrow like this is, I think the one year where I'm waiting maybe a
• 1:37:09
  little bit on Tanner, Scott and Neri's to cut bait on them until the
• 1:37:14
  actual trade deadline. Like I'm certainly if somebody comes to me with a trade
• 1:37:17
  for them, I would be moving them. But like I don't know where
• 1:37:23
  you would exactly. I guess maybe if you're in a situation where like you
• 1:37:26
  want to move on to Puck, I could maybe see making that move,
• 1:37:29
  but Puck might also be already gone in those situations. But there's a lot
• 1:37:34
  of unsetty closing jobs and contenders right now. You look at Evan Phillips on
• 1:37:40
  the Dodgers looks awful right now. The Royals have struggled all year with James
• 1:37:45
  MacArthur of late Paul Seawall has been up and down. In Arizona, You're
• 1:37:49
  looking at Cincinnati with the Reds. Alexis Diez has just not been it there
• 1:37:57
  and I think they would be willing to find a studying four. So there
• 1:38:00
  are situations, I think more so than the past couple of years, where
• 1:38:04
  there's a potential for closers to walk in. But I would also say that
• 1:38:10
  those situations I mentioned in terms of Kansas City, La, Cincinnati, Arizona,
• 1:38:15
  even Baltimore a little bit like you've got to start paying a little bit
• 1:38:17
  more attention if you hold those closers to also be like, hey, like
• 1:38:21
  these guys have been running here, but like there's a few pretty good arms
• 1:38:26
  on the market that could be coming in and buying for these staves as well.
• 1:38:30
  Yeah, absolutely, I think you make a good point. I still
• 1:38:33
  I'm not buying theirs. I just it's Craig Kimberle esque. Agree you you
• 1:38:39
  called that out, and that's just not the kind of guy that I'm buying
• 1:38:42
  for the outside shot. He has it if maybe it's on the waiver wire,
• 1:38:45
  and if you're just picking him up for giggles, sure go for it.
• 1:38:50
  But I have a feeling that he might be more headache than he's worth
• 1:38:57
  come a month from now. Very true. I think that's very fair.
• 1:39:00
  I think it's also like interesting that we didn't cover kind of the backup version
• 1:39:04
  of with aj Puck but with in Chicago, because I tried to before this
• 1:39:10
  that like there isn't one. I don't know if I want one in that
• 1:39:14
  in that Cub's bullpen, White Sox bullpen too. I guess both Chicago bullpens.
• 1:39:17
  I didn't even need to clarify, but like both those bullpens, I
• 1:39:21
  think those closers on the back end will probably be moving at the deadline.
• 1:39:26
  I'm not sure if I want any cracks at what's going to be coming in
• 1:39:29
  behind them. Come on, I know you're John brebia Fan. I know
• 1:39:31
  you are. I am, but like saw how that worked out last night?
• 1:39:39
  Oh yeah, all right, Well, I think that was a good
• 1:39:43
  discussion here for pre deadline, so we can certainly return next week and unravel
• 1:39:48
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• 1:39:54
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