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This is episode 19 of the Bluegrass Blues podcast.
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I'm Jesse and I'm Amy. So Jesse, a lot of us
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are feeling like we're riding a roller coaster.
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without safety rails and seatbelts. But let's
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start with yesterday being Martin Luther King
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Day. There were a lot of activities in Louisville
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and in Lexington, and your brother was in town.
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Well, yeah, my brother is a reporter for ESPN.
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He works for one of the branches of ESPN. And
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one of the stories he's working on is Vanderbilt
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University has this thing that they do every
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year with their college athletes, where they
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take a bunch of them to different places to discuss
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civil rights. It's sort of like a civil rights
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tour. So they came to Louisville this weekend,
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and they went to the Muhammad Ali Museum, and
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then they went to the Roots Museum. This is something
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they do every year, and they took a bus up from
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Nashville. It's good that we're educating kids
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on what the history is of our past, given where
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we are these days. But it's encouraging that
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someone is thinking that, yes, we have to keep
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teaching these things because we're in danger
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of losing all of these civil rights that we've
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gotten over the years. And history tends to repeat
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itself if we don't understand. Yeah, and the
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thing about history, you know, I... I know how
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bad things are today, but things in the 60s and
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50s and 40s were a lot worse for black people
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in the country in particular. Now it's bad for
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everybody. One of the things I find interesting
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about watching demonstrations against Trump is
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I see a lot of middle -aged white guys now yelling
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at ICE officers. And one thing that crosses my
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mind when that happens is, you know, if I did
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the same thing, they would beat me up and carry
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me off. But it's that privilege that white males
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do have. But at least there's almost an uprising
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among that group. And it just shows that the...
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i don't know if the fog is lifting or if the
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fever is breaking well i do think that a white
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woman being murdered in the face renee shot in
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the face with her dog in the back of her car
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i think that did a lot to wake up white people
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yeah unfortunately it takes something like that
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one of the things that we chant a lot is uh if
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if anyone in our community isn't safe no one
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is safe so it's like We should not wait for someone
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who has blue eyes and white skin to be shot in
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the face by an ICE official. We should be out
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protesting this regime daily. Yeah, I was at
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a protest, what was it, last week on the Belvedere.
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And that was one of the topics was the fact that
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the woman was shot in Minneapolis. And, you know,
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it's... One of the things that the speakers noted
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was that there were other people who were of
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color who were shot or killed, and no one knows
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who they are. But it takes, just like, if a white
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woman is shot by ICE, then that's when all the
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craziness, not the craziness, but that's when
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all the resistance really... AMSA. Yeah, I have
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noticed in the group that I volunteer with, which
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is called LSURGE, Louisville Showing Up for Racial
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Justice, it's a white group, and it's for white
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people to be trained to accompany our... Our
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immigrant neighbors, black and brown neighbors,
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et cetera, who are being targeted by ICE. And
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the trainings are like sold out. I mean, sold
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out. It doesn't cost anything. Standing room.
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Standing room where we have to shut them down
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and then keep scheduling new ones. So I'm excited
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about that. I mean, it's time for people to have.
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It's past time for people to have woken up. What
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are people learning at these gatherings? Well,
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we're learning a lot about how to show up and
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accompany our immigrant -led organizations, black,
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brown -led organizations. They tell us what they
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need, and then we show up. And a lot of us are
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in what's called a community defense network.
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We wear yellow baseball caps and orange vests,
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and we're out there looking for ice. And then
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we're trained to stall ice. We're trained to
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call a hotline about ice. We're trained to look
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for a judicial warrant that is signed by a judge
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before allowing ice to come into a facility or
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someone's home. So, you know, it's really...
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important for us to be showing up and be eyes
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and ears on the ground, I showed up at a place
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where they were providing maternal health care
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to young women who were pregnant and they were
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leaving with diapers and there were little kids
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in tow. And these are the least threatening people
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you will ever meet. And then I also went to another
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gathering of Haitians where there were a lot
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of kids, beautiful families who were showing
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up to commemorate their lives. lost during the
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earthquake 15 years ago. And I'm out there on
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the street freezing looking for ice so that they
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can come in and feel safe and be in community.
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It's just ridiculous what people are facing now.
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They're too afraid to go to work. They're too
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afraid to send their kids to school. They're
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too afraid to go shopping, and rightly so. Also,
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we're trained to go into neighborhoods where
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a lot of immigrants and black and brown folks
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are living, and we have these cards that are
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bilingual telling them what their rights are
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and also giving the hotline number. I guess the
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question is, you know you give people this information
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and they know what to do and who to contact but
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if ice does what it does it doesn't care yeah
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about anything about the law i i always wonder
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like if ice were to accost me if i called the
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police here would they do anything that's that's
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an important question to look at because i know
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that in other states the police have been told
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that don't let ICE do this stuff in your town
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because that's your job. But Greenberg sold us
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out in our town. Yeah, but we'll get into that
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a little later. But it's just, you know, there
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are some, there are concerns and there are dangers
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to having a group of... Armed vigilantes, which
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is what they are, running around. They're the
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Gestapo. They're the SS. I also wanted to mention,
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unfortunately, on Martin Luther King Day yesterday,
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the KKK fliered a bunch of neighborhoods in the
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dead of night. In Lexington? In Lexington, ahead
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of the festivities. promoting white supremacy
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and KKK. And the good news is people were revulsed
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by this and picking up the flyers and throwing
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them away as trash and trying to keep them away
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from people with children and all the good things.
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So this is our country right now. White supremacists
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are highly emboldened. And again, when you see
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ICE, you see an ICE agent shooting a... a woman
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point blank in the face and so far there are
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no repercussions to this right yeah and you know
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we're supposed to like look at the the shooter
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as someone who's like defending something and
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the shooter wasn't defending anything but you
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do know that people that watch fox news they're
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really upset with renee goode and the people
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like me that are showing up and trying to stall
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ice from kidnapping her our friends and family
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renee good is the woman who was shot we haven't
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used her name yet but yeah that's that's true
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the the well the fox news viewer is an idiot
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i can't i can't be delicate about that anymore
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they it's so easy to con them and that's why
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trump essentially is president because what he's
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doing or what he has been doing is just regurgitating
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Fox News lines. Well, and he's hired a bunch
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of news people. Well, yeah, Fox News is his cabinet.
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Exactly. You know, like Hegsbeth and Bongino,
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who's the FBI assistant director? Oh. I think
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it's Dan Bongino. Okay. But anyway, it's just
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a bunch of former Fox hosts and a bunch of...
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The women in the cabinet look like the legs in
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Fox News. If you watch Fox News enough, or just
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watch it once, you'll notice that every woman
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has long legs. And Pam Bondi. And blonde hair.
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And lots of plastic surgery. And there is a look.
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Kristi Noem's got it. And the press secretary
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has it. And anyone in the administration who's
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a woman has to have the Mar -a -Lago look. Because
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it's 2025. and, you know, we still have to look
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like that. Right, so, yeah, anyway, that's...
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Anyway, we have already... The Klan is out. That's
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not good. People are recognizing that that's
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bad. I think ICE is Klan. I think they're people
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who probably would have been in the Klan because
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I don't think anybody who's... who believes in
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protecting people would be in ICE. I think that
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they're incompetent people who never served in
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the military, didn't serve as police, a lot of
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them. And, you know, they got like a $40 ,000
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bonus for showing up. I think it was $50 ,000.
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you know they're now going around terrorizing
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the country with masks yeah why why is a police
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agency running around in masks right they they
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should be all be unmasked they should all be
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tried when when the air clears and when reality
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comes back if ever These are the people who you
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would see at the Nuremberg trials. And these
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were the people that stormed the Capitol on January
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6th. Right, yes. They were traitors to begin
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with. Right. And so now the traitors... They
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think they're patriots. They're traitors. And
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the traitor -in -chief... is the worst of them
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right and they they follow him because they don't
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believe in the law they just believe in having
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someone uh a strong man in in terms of um running
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the country and trump isn't a strong man um he's
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just anyway and he's so enabled i just But I
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also want to mention that today is Free America
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Day at 2 p .m. your local time. There are actions
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happening all over the country, and the Free
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America website talks about what we do today.
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We walk away from fascism. We walk towards a
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free America. We fight for a future that belongs
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to us all, everybody in, nobody out. Welcome
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to the Free America Walkout. So at 2 o 'clock,
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people are walking out of work, school, and commerce.
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We are withholding our labor, our participation,
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and our consent. And so take a look at that,
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although that will have happened when you hear
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the podcast. But take a look and see if you can
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find media about these walkout actions. Right,
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because I've been looking at just the coverage
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that... our local paper has been doing and the
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coverage of course has been bad um you know like
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i was discussing with you earlier this week that
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after i went to the demonstration on the um on
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the uh belvedere um the coverage the riverfront
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yeah the coverage wasn't anything uh i think
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the day that happened the story in the paper
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that led the paper was or that led the website
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was the 10 best restaurants in louisville right
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so the courier journal isn't going to cover anything
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that's part of the established current establishment
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They don't want to offend anybody, but they don't
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want to stand up for democracy. And there are
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so many serious things happening. For example,
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we wanted to talk about the Obamacare insurance
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marketplace. Nationwide, the number of people
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buying health plans on Obamacare is down by about
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833 ,000 compared with a year ago. So we're seeing
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fewer new enrollees. more people dropping their
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coverage, more people choosing cheaper and less
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generous health insurance plans with higher deductibles.
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We are already one of the sickest states in this
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country, as everybody knows. And these rural
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hospitals are going to be closing. And now people
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can't afford health insurance. After we expanded
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the Affordable Care Act here in Kentucky, one
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of the few red states to do that. it's galling
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yeah well but but you know the 10 new restaurants
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that's more important to talk about yeah but
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in terms of the affordable care act too you know
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we there's The fact that people are paying more
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for coverage is unacceptable. It should be unacceptable.
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But the other part of this is that the places
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that are the hardest hit are the rural areas
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of the country. And rural Kentucky is really
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badly hit by this. You know, the premiums are
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doubling in some cases or tripling. People can't
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afford that, so the result is they either pay
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for a different kind of coverage that isn't as
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good as what they had before, or they just drop
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coverage altogether. And the fact that people
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in this state, as we've noted many times, has
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a high degree of illness here. We say rural areas,
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but that's a place that voted for Trump. And
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I don't know if they realize that the reason
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they're paying more is because of who they voted
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for. It's their responsibility. But the other
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part of this, too, is that when you have fewer
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people taking advantage of the Affordable Care
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Act, Somehow the prices of everything go up anyway.
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Well, and healthy people, when healthy people
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aren't in it to help sort of subsidize too. Right.
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To your point, premiums are expected to increase
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this year from $888 last year to about $1 ,904
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a month. A month? A month. Yeah, a month, right.
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114%. increase that that is a significant significant
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increase jesse that's over a thousand dollars
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a month that's over twelve thousand dollars a
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year and we have some of the poorest families
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in the state right and you have to look at the
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median income in kentucky as well or the medium
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household um wealth and that's like seventy three
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thousand dollars for a family so you're talking
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uh essentially one seventh or one fifth to one
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seventh of the cost is now going to health care
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and people in that area can't afford it it's
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like 73 000 is and we already lack affordable
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housing and so people are house poor so people
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are making a lot of really serious choices about
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whether how to feed their kids how to get medicine
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in general you know transportation costs right
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do you want food or do you want to be healthy
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yeah it's like these are unimaginable choices
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especially for poor areas but you know this is
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what's happening it's happening in the cities
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as well of course but it's also happening in
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rural areas in the cities at least you can get
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to a hospital at some point there are lots of
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hospitals in in Louisville but if you're out
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in the rural area you're going to have to drive
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an hour or more to the nearest hospital and given
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the restrictions that are on medicine in general,
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for example, women's health, you have to go out
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of state to get, women have to go out of state
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to get the proper health care. So this is going
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to be, this is something that we are expected.
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We expected it because that's what Republicans
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have been trying to kill since Obamacare was
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introduced. Well, you know, and the Democrats
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that... you know, said, oh, we're going to vote
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to end the shutdown now because we really believe
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that Republicans are going to join us and do
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the right thing. No, they were never going to
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do that. And all of us knew that to begin with.
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So we have to wonder, I guess this is a discussion
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for later, but why did the Democrats keep doing
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this? It's like... Charlie Brown and Lucy with
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the football. You know, the Republicans are holding
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the football. The Democrats are running up to
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kick it. saying, okay, we're going to do good
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things for people, and then the Republicans pull
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the ball away from them. And then the Democrats
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are laying there wondering, what happened? Why
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did they do that? Aren't they decent people?
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And no, they're not decent people. And we're
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going to address this in detail a little further.
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But speaking of the opposite of poor people,
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Musk did something very interesting this week.
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He gave Nate Morris, through his PAC, $10 million
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for his run for McConnell's open Senate seat.
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Nate Morris is a wealthy businessman. He was
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the chair of the board of Rubicon Tech. He's
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friends with Vance, Bannon, and Trump Jr. He's
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exactly the kind of person to fill McConnell's
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seat that really, really scares the shit out
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of me, honestly. Yeah, well, as we've said, he's
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a millionaire. He got $10 million from Elon Musk,
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who... I have to keep going back to this, but
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Elon Musk has a fortune of $780 billion. World's
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richest man. World's richest man, by far. and
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he's giving Nate Morris, who's a rich person
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in himself, and Nate Morris has spent more than
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$4 million on his own campaign, but Musk is giving
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him another $10 million because Morris is friends
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with J .D. Vance and Donald Trump Jr. and Steve
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Bannon, and Musk decides, okay, I'm going to
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give money to him, but I always have to... look
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at this in terms of what does this mean to real
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people? And the fact that Musk in his $780 billion
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fortune is giving $10 million to Nate Morris.
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If you compared that to the median income, which
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we've referred to already of $73 ,000 in Kentucky,
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that's the equivalent of a person with that income
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giving. 93 cents. So if I could buy a politician
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for 93 cents, of course I'm going to do it. Musk
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has billions of dollars and he's essentially...
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paying just a minuscule amount of money. It doesn't
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even register in terms of his daily computations
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because he can make a billion dollars in a day
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if his stocks go up that much. But he's giving
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$10 million, and it's like nothing. It is literally
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nothing for him. So Nate Morris, you know, this
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wealthy businessman who's in Trump's inner circle,
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is not going to represent the average Kentuckian
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in any way and should not be voted for. But we
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live in a state where people are constantly voting
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for people that don't represent them. You know,
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these elected officials get richer and the rest
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of us get poorer and they don't. represent our
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interests. For example, Robert Stivers, who's
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our state Senate president, is completely against
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universal pre -K, which Governor Beshear is strongly
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pushing. And Jesse, you know a little bit about
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that. Well, yeah. It's the early childhood education,
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which is really important. We need that in this
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state, which has like... one of the lowest education
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rates in the country and one of the things about
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this is i noticed that we talk about pre -k here
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in san francisco which is where i was working
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for the past few years the mayor there announced
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that they were going to give free and early child
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care to people who were making 150 % of the median
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income in San Francisco. So that means that they
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are going to, anyone who's making $230 ,000 a
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year will get free childcare in the city of San
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Francisco. And that's a household? That's a household
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income, which is, and okay, you compare that
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to, so that's like 150%. Well, yeah, it's 150
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% above the median income. So you compare that
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to Kentucky. If you were giving 150 % above the
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median income in Kentucky, that would be about
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$110 ,000. So the fact that the state legislator,
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Republican legislator, has decided that we're
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not going to educate our children, our youngest
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children. is another sign that Kentucky is going
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to continue to be in the back. It's going to
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be losing continually because you're raising
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a population of people who can't think, which
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is what Republicans want. Right. But, you know,
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when you think about it from an economic development
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standpoint, it's a terrible thing. Companies
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do not, and we've seen companies pull out, like
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Humana has pulled out and UPS has pulled out.
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to a certain extent. Companies do not want to
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come to a state where you can't educate your
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children. And now what we're finding in the Commonwealth's
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largest school district, which is Jefferson County
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Public Schools, that we've got this deficit of
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about $150 million, which is really... disheartening
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and in fact I'm a member of a group called clout
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which means citizens of Louisville organized
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and united together and we did an action yesterday
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we're doing an action till the end of the month
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because the superintendent is looking for ways
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to cut costs and he's gonna the proposal right
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now is to cut all mental health care which is
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a really terrible idea, as we all know. And so
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we all basically called our school board member
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as well as the superintendent, you know, pleading
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with them not to cut that. You know, I think
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personally that central office still has bloat
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and that there are ways to cut costs in central
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office. And I have a friend, I just got to say
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this, Jesse, I have a friend who works in a special
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needs classroom in a high school. And they are
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so short -staffed, and they are so underpaid,
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and the work conditions are really harsh. And
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they don't get listened to, and they don't get
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raises. And when they bring up anything, then
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someone from the school district comes and gives
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them a slide presentation of understanding their
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students better. They understand their students.
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But the point is that Kentucky, we do not educate
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our students well, and we don't put the resources
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into ensuring an educated, healthy populace.
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Right, and the thing, too, is that what they're
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looking at, as you said, they're going to cut,
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like, more than $100 million from the budget.
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And I think the superintendent has already developed
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a plan that he's introduced, but the issue is
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that... Even with this cut, there's still $30
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million in the red. So it's not something that's
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going to be solved anytime soon. It's also not
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good because, you know, the Republican legislature
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would love to split up JCPS, right? They say
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it's too big. And so anything like this that
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happens, these systemic problems that we have.
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Makes it even shakier. And they always say that
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JCPS is too big, but it has more students than
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other districts in the state. So that argument
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is illogical. And it has more students of color
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than any other. But that's the reason. That's
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the reason that the Republican legislature is
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going after this. Let's have charter schools
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and let's have the state fund charter schools.
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The state shouldn't be funding private schools.
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If you want to send your kid to private school,
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pay for it. And if you don't, send them to public
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school and make sure that we've made public schools
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better for everyone because if you do that, then
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the state benefits overall. But people in the
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state don't look at things in that way, and I
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don't understand why. Also, it's the legislative
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session right now, so I would just encourage
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everybody, if you don't know what's going on,
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there's the Legislative Research Commission,
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LRC. You can go to their website. You can see
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the kind of bills that are being advanced. You
26:56
can see what days people are coming in to advocate,
26:59
although you know that the state capitol is closed.
27:01
A lot of the legislative sessions are being held
27:04
privately without public input. So not a great
27:09
situation right now. I also want to mention that
27:13
I'm not happy with the Democrats either. Why
27:16
not? Well, on January 7th, Governor Beshear had
27:20
a State of Commonwealth address, and he mentioned
27:24
the word America about 30 times in the address,
27:28
because as we all know, he's... he's planning
27:31
to run for president. And he, you know, in his
27:35
address he cites Kentucky as an example of finding
27:38
hope beyond the chaos. He said that Kentucky
27:41
has found a way to work together and define unity.
27:45
But we all know that most Republicans did not
27:47
show up for the speech. And Stivers himself said
27:51
that Beshear's presidential chances were worse
27:54
than a snowball's chance in hell. So you've got
27:57
our governor basically painting this very rosy
28:01
picture. And I will say, I am grateful to have
28:04
him as our governor. He saved lives, many lives
28:08
during the pandemic. He shows up. He cares. I
28:13
think he's a great... governor and i also think
28:17
that he is not going to be funded at we've talked
28:20
about this well enough to be a real presidential
28:23
candidate a viable presidential candidate and
28:26
i also don't understand why and and let's talk
28:30
about attica scott for uh for a sec so she had
28:34
a piece that was worth reading Atticus Scott
28:36
is really worth, you can subscribe to her substack.
28:40
She is very thoughtful. Black woman, lives in
28:43
the West End of Louisville, has been a state
28:46
representative, has run, she primaried Morgan
28:51
McGarvey for Congress, and she rightly says that
28:55
the Democratic Party is still... terrible for
28:59
black women they don't promote black women they
29:01
don't they only promote establishment candidates
29:04
most of whom are white people and when you think
29:07
about you know the fact that Bashir has already
29:10
endorsed Greenberg Craig Greenberg for the mayoral
29:13
race so early and Shamika Parrish Wright who's
29:17
a Metro Council member and has been very active
29:20
in civil civil rights work for her whole life
29:24
here. She's primarying Craig Greenberg. And,
29:28
you know, she hasn't been taken seriously by
29:30
the Democrats. Of course, Morgan McGarvey, Attica
29:35
Scott, primaried him, and McGarvey was the establishment
29:39
candidate. And meanwhile, Colonel Pam Stevenson,
29:43
black woman, retired U .S. Air Force colonel,
29:46
a state legislator, right now she's the minority
29:48
floor leader. She's not raising money because
29:52
the Democratic Party does not take these black
29:55
women seriously. And they're so qualified, Jesse.
29:59
Right. But that's the problem with the Democratic
30:01
Party, not only in Kentucky, but I think in general.
30:04
Because if you look at what happened in New York,
30:07
for example, like when Mondami won the mayoral
30:10
race, he had the nomination. The establishment
30:14
Democrats or the corporate Democrats did not
30:17
endorse him. They didn't even endorse him. And
30:20
Cuomo is terrible. He's a terrible human being.
30:23
Yeah, he's a rapist. It's like he and Trump are
30:27
rapists. But, you know, they decided that the
30:29
corporate Democrats decided that, oh, okay, we're
30:32
going to put in a guy who harasses women. We
30:36
would rather have him than a person who actually
30:38
is talking about making life affordable for the
30:41
people of New York City. But we don't want that
30:44
guy because he's brown. He's ethnic. Well, and
30:48
we saw this with Kamala too, Kamala Harris. I
30:51
mean, clearly, clearly more qualified to be the
30:56
president of the United States over Donald Trump.
30:59
And why did she lose? But it's the difference
31:02
between you could either have voted for... uh
31:06
a person who's a rapist and a con man who's been
31:09
convicted of crime white white guy white guy
31:12
or you can vote for the black women black woman
31:15
who's put rapists and con men and criminals in
31:19
jail right and The American people decided that
31:23
we want the rapist and con man. Right. And, you
31:26
know, especially in Louisville and Jefferson
31:27
County, I mean, these women that we're talking
31:31
about, Shemeika Parrish Wright, Colonel Pamela
31:33
Stevenson, and Attica Scott, they are so close
31:38
to what we need, what the constituents want and
31:42
need for a better life for themselves, to break
31:45
the cycles of poverty, to build wealth, to have
31:48
education, et cetera. And none of them are. taken
31:51
seriously. And I wonder how do you change that?
31:54
That's the issue. There has to be some recognition
32:00
that the way things are are not acceptable anymore.
32:03
We can't go for the quote -unquote safe candidate
32:07
because he's a white guy who has lots of money.
32:10
We have to vote for people who actually are going
32:13
to represent what the constituency is. not doing
32:20
that at all and but that's again that's a problem
32:24
with the democrats not only in kentucky but nationally
32:27
because you know apex still controls a lot of
32:31
the democratic party they're still donating to
32:34
democratic leaders Well, for example, in San
32:40
Francisco, because I'm going to keep referring
32:41
back to San Francisco, the person running for
32:45
the Democrat running for Nancy Pelosi's seat
32:48
was in a debate with three other people, three
32:50
other Democrats, two other Democrats. And one
32:54
of the questions was, is the situation in Gaza
32:57
a genocide? Now, the two other Democratic candidates
33:01
immediately. said yes. They answered yes. But
33:07
the person who is the frontrunner, who's going
33:10
for Nancy Pelosi seat, and who's well known in
33:12
San Francisco politics, didn't even answer the
33:15
question. So, you know, he knows where his money
33:18
is coming from. He knows that if it comes between
33:21
the issue of human rights or getting money, he's
33:26
going to go for the money. And that's... typical
33:28
of the Democratic Party throughout the country.
33:31
So there is, you know, we have to have a discussion
33:34
at some point on not only the, we know the flaws
33:39
of the Republican Party, but we have to explain
33:42
why is the Democratic Party doing what it's doing,
33:45
knowing what's going on and being aware of the
33:48
situation that the people who support it. are
33:52
really going through difficult times, but they're
33:55
not doing anything to address it. Right, the
33:57
systemic problems. They're going for the safe,
34:00
not the safe, but the same corporate guys who
34:03
are going to give us the same messages, who are
34:07
going to, you know, sort of give lip service
34:10
to justice. Well, it's all about the money and
34:12
their cronyism. I've got to say, Jesse, when
34:15
I went to the rally, the the one a couple days
34:19
before yours uh about melting or crushing ice
34:24
and all the things the democratic socialists
34:27
uh were there and they basically organized the
34:31
rally we had about a thousand people a lot of
34:33
speakers um and our metro council uh member jp
34:38
leninger he is a member of the democratic socialist
34:41
party and you know he's making waves and it shouldn't
34:45
all be about these establishment candidates,
34:48
and also Mamdani. I'm reading that he's doing
34:51
amazing things in a very short period of time.
34:53
And it's not about the money. And those of us
34:57
who followed Bernie and AOC, I think something's
35:00
catching on. Of course, it's very grassroots
35:03
in a lot of places. But the fact that a Democratic
35:07
socialist won as mayor of New York, and you're
35:09
seeing this in other major blue cities, I think
35:12
we should be watching this. Well, you said we
35:16
do have a Democratic Socialist in the Metro Council.
35:20
Our Metro Council guy. But we have to think,
35:23
if this person was popular, would he be able
35:27
to run for mayor? And what would his chances
35:29
be? And given the current situation in Kentucky
35:33
Democratic politics, he's not going to get the
35:36
nomination. Or if he's going for higher office,
35:39
they're going to find some... rich white guy
35:43
that they feel comfortable with. And I think
35:48
that's one of the problems. There's this over
35:52
-reliance on comfort in democratic politics in
35:56
this state, and there's not enough reliance on
35:59
serving the people of the state. Maybe we should
36:05
be advisors to the Democratic Party. But there's
36:09
a lot of diversity here. Well, and we haven't
36:12
mentioned Charles Booker. Yeah, Booker. But again,
36:16
I think we discussed this in our last podcast,
36:19
but people just seem to be running for the wrong
36:22
things. Amy McGrath. Yeah, Amy McGrath, as I
36:27
said before, should be running for the... The
36:30
House seat. Andy Barr. Andy Barr's seat. That's
36:32
open. Go for it. But she's running for governor,
36:35
and she lost before. No, the Senate seat. Senate
36:38
seat. McConnell's office seat. And Booker ran
36:41
for Senate, but he should have challenged McGarvey,
36:45
or he should have run for mayor. Because he's
36:49
got a following here, but instead he's going
36:51
for state office. And I'm... Totally cynical
36:56
on this, but there's no way a black guy is going
36:59
to win statewide office. And I would say that
37:01
if David Cameron gets the nomination for the
37:04
Republicans, he's not going to win. But that
37:08
might be a strategy. If Daniel Cameron becomes
37:10
the Republican candidate, then Charles Booker
37:13
might have a chance because you have two black
37:15
men running against each other. I don't know.
37:18
I think people won't vote. I think people in
37:22
the state would just say, no, we're not going
37:24
to accept this. But that's never going to happen
37:26
to black men. or two black anyone's are never
37:31
going to have both nominations, major nominations
37:34
in this state for the Republicans and the Democrats
37:38
to run against each other. So on the one hand,
37:40
we're condemning the white, rich establishment,
37:43
Jesse. And, you know, we're promoting voices
37:46
like Attica Scott and Shameka Parrish Wright
37:49
and Colonel Pamela Stevenson. And then on the
37:51
other, we're cynical that. Or in Charles Booker,
37:55
we're cynical that any of them can win. Statewide
37:58
office. Okay. Statewide office, definitely. Local
38:01
office, I think, is winnable. Although the white
38:05
establishment Democrats are not supporting them
38:08
in any way. Right. So this is the question, where
38:12
does the support come from? And I don't have
38:17
an answer to that. Well, and it's all about the
38:19
money now, unfortunately. Right. So speaking
38:21
of money. You know, we have this very large bourbon
38:26
industry, and as we know, Beam stopped production
38:29
in one of their facilities for the entire year
38:32
of 2026. And I read that last year in one quarter,
38:39
U .S. spirit exports were down 9%, reflecting
38:42
a loss of $57 .4 million for U .S. distillers.
38:49
And this was on the heels of record -breaking
38:51
sales and exports in 2024, which saw more than
38:56
$2 .4 billion exported abroad from 43 states.
39:02
If you read about these losses and you try to
39:07
get it from local news, the tariff situation
39:11
is buried. Buried. As if it has no... Or Trump's...
39:19
and vast disapproval in other countries where
39:23
people are now boycotting American products like
39:25
our bourbon. Well, let's talk about the tariffs,
39:28
for one, because that is... Even McConnell and
39:33
Rand Paul realized that tariffs were bad for
39:35
Kentucky, and they did express their voice against
39:38
Trump's tariffs. And the thing about... terraces,
39:43
particularly since we went out of our way to
39:45
insult Canada, is that that's like the major
39:49
importer of American bourbon. And so we discussed
39:56
this. They give us these reasons. The establishment
39:59
line is that, oh, sales are down and we're going
40:04
to repurpose our brand or whatever. But as you
40:09
said, During the pandemic, bourbon sales were
40:13
at record levels. And all of a sudden, we have
40:18
too much bourbon and we have to stop producing.
40:22
And they're trying to con us into believing that
40:26
the reason is because, not because of tariffs,
40:29
but because, oh, more people are using cannabis.
40:37
People have decided to be healthier and they're
40:39
not going to drink as much. But that's not the
40:42
case. And I've been criticizing the Courier -Journal
40:47
constantly, but I read the story where they were
40:49
talking about the tariffs and why Jim Beam was
40:52
shutting down its production. And it's cyclical.
40:56
Yeah, there's no... If they read their own story,
41:02
they would see that this doesn't make any sense.
41:04
And that the reason that this is happening is
41:09
because of Trump's tariffs. Right. And, you know,
41:13
Rand Paul knew it. Mitch McConnell knows it.
41:17
Who's the Comer? Massey. And Massey. Comer. Both
41:24
know it. Right. And Comer's making a play, certainly
41:28
politically. He knows that. hemp farmers and
41:31
business people are just being crushed, and he
41:34
wants to delay the legislation that's going to
41:38
basically make growing hemp even harder. And
41:41
I want to just say that 17 ,000 Kentuckians have
41:46
been approved by licensed practitioners for selling
41:50
medical cannabis, right? And the first dispensary
41:55
that opened... they closed because they ran out
42:00
of product. So you're talking about something
42:03
that the consumer wants and needs. We're so sick,
42:08
and yet we cannot make this available to them.
42:11
We should also point out that the production
42:13
of marijuana or hemp is one of the major crops
42:18
in Kentucky. As it should be. Yeah. We're perfect
42:22
for it. But you look around the country and you
42:25
go to other states, other cities, and there are...
42:28
dispensaries everywhere all over it's not a medical
42:31
dispensary it's just like uh anyone can walk
42:33
in anytime get whatever you want walk out and
42:38
and it's not driving up crime right at all well
42:41
crime is down it's down crime is down and so
42:44
hang out with someone who's smoked a little weed
42:47
right they're they're not in any mood to do anything
42:49
but you know crime is down these facilities are
42:54
all over the country you know denver and i i
42:57
was in new york and if you walk down the streets
43:00
of manhattan there's a dispensary on every other
43:03
block i was in san francisco you walk down the
43:06
streets of san francisco there's a dispensary
43:08
on every other block there is a cannabis shop
43:11
in louisville but they sell hemp -based products
43:15
but there's still a buzz with whatever you get
43:19
there but the fact that This is the major crop
43:23
in the state, and we're not exploiting it. We're
43:27
not distributing it around the country because
43:29
we have these legalities that we're dealing with,
43:32
while the rest of the country is way ahead of
43:35
this. Plus the fact that... As I said, this is
43:40
the major crop in the state right now. There
43:43
are farmers that are relying on this crop, and
43:46
we're about to lose it. Well, not only us. I
43:50
mean, think of this provision in the federal
43:52
spending bill, the bad, horrible. Not beautiful
43:57
bill. The bullshit bill. So it bans the sale
44:00
of hemp -derived products with more than 0 .4
44:04
milligrams of THC per container. So this advocacy
44:08
group, U .S. Hemp Roundtable, estimates that
44:12
restrictions that stringent would affect 95 %
44:16
of hemp extract products that are currently on
44:19
the market. And currently this ban is supposed
44:22
to go into effect in November. It's just, it's
44:26
so dumb. But there's nothing we can do because
44:30
this is a federal issue now. Well, you know,
44:33
even Comer, you know, who's been Kentucky's agriculture
44:36
commissioner, wants to push this down a couple
44:39
years. And Mitch was supportive of this. too
44:44
and then he caved and I think it was Rand Paul
44:47
that's really stepped up for the farmers well
44:51
we're so dumb here yeah but again this goes back
44:54
to other issues you were discussing like education
44:57
like If you were educated, you would know that
45:01
this is the logical conclusion. Well, and it
45:04
also goes back to people are not watching the
45:07
money. We're not watching where the money goes
45:10
and who's powerful. Churchill Downs and the horse
45:13
racing industry, they've prevented us from having
45:16
other gambling venues outside of them. The bourbon
45:20
industry does not want. hemp production uh and
45:24
for people to access medical marijuana or recreational
45:27
marijuana follow the money and it's it's hurting
45:31
all of us right but and things aren't going to
45:35
get any better until they you know people decide
45:38
to Well, again, what's the answer? My answer
45:42
is always get rid of the Republican Party, but
45:45
that's not going to happen. I just think there's
45:46
a lot of harm that's going to be happening, and
45:50
people are really going to suffer. before we
45:53
turn the tide on this. I hate to say that. Of
45:57
course the midterm elections are so critical,
46:00
and we've got to have them. I did read, though,
46:04
that a lot of Republicans aren't being challenged
46:06
across the state for the midterms, which is...
46:10
Really sad. Another thing I wanted to mention.
46:14
Before you get to that point, I think it's interesting
46:18
that Republicans aren't facing challenges because
46:21
there are Republicans in this state who have
46:24
pissed off Trump and they're not getting the
46:26
challenge in their primaries, which tells me
46:29
that the. The fever might be breaking, that Republicans
46:35
are realizing that they don't have to bow to
46:38
Trump for everything because they know that in
46:40
the next election cycle. they're in trouble.
46:45
It's obvious that people are pissed off. You
46:49
look at the demonstrations against ICE, you look
46:51
at the fact that healthcare is going up, you
46:55
look at the fact that major production of a Kentucky
47:00
commodity, bourbon. is being slashed well and
47:05
stivers did not uh take the white house's advice
47:09
to gerrymander out the only democratic congressional
47:14
district in kentucky and i think they're just
47:17
they're hedging their bets right now as to what's
47:20
going on with trump and whether they should be
47:22
allied with him yeah but they want to have uh
47:24
documented yeah it's like their alibi they want
47:28
It documented that they can go in and they say,
47:31
we're not beholden to the federal government.
47:35
We're beholden to the people of Kentucky. I can
47:37
make this speech. I used to write speeches for
47:40
Republicans. If you were beholden to the people
47:43
of Kentucky, you'd be making health care more
47:46
accessible, not less. You'd be educating the
47:49
children. You'd have affordable housing. Come
47:52
on. We might as well go into the other thing
47:56
that's still around. disaster relief. We were
48:00
looking at some statistics and it looks like
48:03
from 2010 to 2025 there were 10 counties nationwide
48:08
that made the most declarations of disaster.
48:12
Nine of those counties are in Kentucky and they're
48:16
in eastern Kentucky and they were hit by floods,
48:19
they're hit by all kinds of bad things. Again,
48:24
I'm going to say the people in history of Kentucky
48:26
overwhelmingly voted for Trump. And then he ended
48:29
FEMA. You know, he essentially ended FEMA's functionality
48:32
in this state. But the state is now going to
48:39
have a state resiliency office. I don't know
48:42
how it's going to be funded to lead disaster
48:45
preparedness and resilient efforts across the
48:48
state. Where's the money going to come from?
48:50
I don't even know what resiliency means. What
48:52
do they mean by that? It's like, oh, we're going
48:54
to, this is my favorite part, we're going to
48:58
establish a blue ribbon commission to study this
49:02
problem that everyone knows the answer to already.
49:05
But we're going to do this commission because
49:07
it will delay any action at all. And then we
49:10
can say that we actually studied it because this
49:13
is about having something to say in the campaign.
49:16
Like they can say, oh, we established this committee
49:20
to do whatever. And we're looking at it and just
49:24
give us time and we'll get it done. And by the
49:28
way, you know, these disasters cost. billions
49:32
of dollars to Kentucky. And, you know, we keep
49:36
telling you this is a very poor state. So where's
49:39
the money coming from? It's certainly not going
49:41
to be coming from the federal government that
49:43
Kentuckians are voting for. You know, Elon Musk
49:46
has $780 billion. He could just pay for it when
49:50
he's not buying politicians, but that's not in
49:53
his interest. So, Jesse, we wanted to segue a
49:57
little bit. We have a disturbing article about
50:01
a Kentucky probation officer that was routinely
50:05
sexually harassing his female charges, and he
50:10
did not get fired. He did not get fined. He volunteered
50:15
to resign from his job. And apparently this is
50:19
systemic. This is institutionalized, this sexual
50:22
harassment. these offices. We have a new female
50:26
head of the Kentucky probation officer in the
50:29
state corrections department, and she follows
50:34
her predecessor who was corrupt and disgusting.
50:37
Well, he was ousted because he had a similar
50:41
situation where one of his employees was sexually
50:46
harassing the person, the people that he was
50:49
supposed to be overseeing. And again, it was
50:53
known they didn't do anything. He didn't respond
50:56
fast enough. And when they made the issue, I
50:59
think he just sort of wrote it off. Oh, I just
51:03
thought it would end. Yeah, right. So he's out.
51:06
Thanks a lot. But with this latest one, it's
51:08
the same thing. It's the same situation. There's
51:11
no charges against this guy. But he's gotten
51:16
away with harassing. Not harassing. He's asking
51:20
for sex from these women who have no choice because...
51:25
They're thrown back in jail. He has power over
51:28
them. Yeah, he'll just make a call and say, oh,
51:30
this person's out of line. And he says, I know
51:32
where you live. Right, yeah, with a little LOL
51:36
at the end. Yeah, LOL. It's disgusting. Right.
51:40
This is, well, you know, it's more corruption
51:43
in... And you know what? Women, we should be
51:50
listening to this and taking this very seriously.
51:52
Remember how we talked about we know what we
51:54
saw. We saw Renee Good get shot in the face by
51:58
this guy. We know what we're seeing, what's happening
52:02
to women. And Attica Scott talks about this,
52:06
and I've listened to this on other substacks.
52:10
If you don't think they're coming... white women
52:13
then you are deluded they are coming after white
52:18
women yeah that's been the case because you know
52:23
the the whole abortion issue it's the effect
52:28
has been on white women you know black women
52:31
weren't able to get abortions as freely as white
52:37
women were. Well, and for religious reasons,
52:40
too. A lot of black women are not as likely as
52:44
white women to have abortions. But reproductive
52:47
health care is going into the shitter. We talked
52:52
about education, Jesse. What about these bomb
52:55
threats? Yeah, that was part of a nationwide
52:58
thing. Last Monday. Yeah, there was UofL, our
53:03
local school just six blocks from me, also got
53:06
a bomb threat at its library. And I don't know
53:10
if anyone's been arrested, but the fact that
53:13
someone just feels like, oh, I'm going to call
53:15
in a bomb threat, or I'm going to say there's
53:18
a bomb planted at a school. and disrupting schools
53:21
all over the country. Murray State University.
53:24
I don't know. Is it a joke or is this person
53:27
just... People are emboldened, Jesse. There are
53:30
no consequences to these actions. I mean, when
53:33
you can riot and attack the U .S. Capitol and
53:37
be pardoned, like... It's a free -for -all. Oh,
53:40
and I just read that gun legislation, the gun
53:42
regulations, they're going to take away gun regulations,
53:47
so we don't have as many of those. Oh, more guns
53:50
for more people? Yeah. Well, it makes it easier
53:52
when... Well, the gun lobby is really happy.
53:56
I mean, again, follow the money, Jess. Yeah,
53:59
and who are they donating to? The gun lobby donates
54:03
to Republicans mostly. But there's... Just that
54:07
idea of calling in bomb threats, whoever did
54:13
that is a psychopath. There's no other way of
54:17
getting around it. But this is, again, this is
54:22
where we are in 2026. I can't believe it's 2026.
54:27
I know, it's crazy. So we did want to end on
54:30
a positive note, and we want to talk about university
54:32
sports. So I just want to say, my parents are
54:38
IU Bloomington alums. Mom, rest in peace. And
54:43
last night's football game for the championship,
54:46
for the college football championship against
54:49
Miami, that was one of the most exciting games
54:52
I have ever seen in my life. And I think Mendoza
54:56
is... Unbelievable. When he charged and got that
55:02
touchdown late in the game, the quarterback on
55:04
the fourth down, I was just dying. And they were
55:08
16 -0. And apparently a team hasn't gone 16 -0
55:15
since Yale did in the late 1800s. And you're
55:18
talking about the most losing college. football
55:22
franchise in the country you have to wonder how
55:25
did he turn that around so fast because it was
55:29
i i was watching the i was watching indiana games
55:33
throughout the year just to look at him because
55:35
i was hearing oh indiana's got a really great
55:37
team and they were blowing out people right and
55:40
left and i i did think they were going to blow
55:43
up miami because UofL beat Miami this year, so
55:48
just another thing to regret in terms of college
55:52
sports this year. So Miami was in it to the very
55:56
end. It was not one of these games where it was
56:01
a blowout. And that last play where the Indiana
56:07
defensive back intercepted the ball, that...
56:11
That closed it out. But that was so close. That
56:14
was like inches from being a touchdown for Miami.
56:17
So, yes, it was a great game. And it just, you
56:21
know, it reflects the importance of college sports
56:26
to various universities because, what was it,
56:30
two years ago, Indiana sucked. It literally sucked.
56:36
Literally is the wrong word. Anyway, it was no
56:38
good. And I think they won maybe three games
56:41
two years ago. And now they go undefeated. And
56:44
Fernando is the Heisman winning starting quarterback.
56:48
And his brother, Alberto, was the backup quarterback.
56:52
By the way, he just entered the transfer portal
56:54
this month. And I don't blame him. His brother?
56:58
Yeah, his brother. So that he can be a starting
57:00
quarterback somewhere else. Does UofL need a
57:04
quarterback? I don't know. Let's watch. His name's
57:07
Alberto. So that was a good sports story. And
57:12
their family is beautiful, and their mom has
57:14
MS. She was in a wheelchair. She uses a wheelchair.
57:18
The younger brother. I loved that the cameras
57:22
were cutting to the family. It was so beautiful.
57:26
Since we're going to divert to another sport.
57:31
The UofL women's basketball team, still great.
57:34
They had two great games this week. They beat
57:36
Notre Dame, which was a big deal. And what was
57:40
it, a couple of days ago, they beat NC State,
57:45
and that went into overtime. What are we ranked
57:48
now, Jesse? I think we're ranked number eight.
57:51
Wow. were to form the college basketball tournament
57:59
now, Louisville would be a two -seed because,
58:02
you know, the first four are the one -seeds,
58:05
the next four are the two -seeds. So Louisville's
58:07
in really good shape. May I go to another game
58:10
with you? Go. Okay. Oh, yeah. So I'll let you
58:13
know when we're available. Thank you. You have
58:16
the best seats. But since we're talking about
58:20
college sports, There's a lot of money involved
58:23
there. And I was watching a video where they
58:25
were talking about how much different schools
58:29
pay for college sports. And the University of
58:34
Kentucky, their sports program costs $910 million
58:40
a year, which is a huge amount of money. While
58:45
Louisville, its cost of college sports is...
58:50
like 645 million dollars a year and Louisville
58:54
is like the the 37th most expensive and while
58:59
Kentucky's like number 15 in terms of the schools
59:03
that pay the most for sports. And, of course,
59:06
the school that pays the most is in Texas. So
59:09
that's just to be expected. I will say there's
59:13
still a disparity. I mean, we have these great
59:15
women's teams, and their coach, the women's sports
59:20
coaches do not get paid anywhere close to what
59:23
the male coaches do. This is true, but Jeff Walls,
59:28
who's the coach for Louisville, gets a million
59:29
dollars a year. Yeah, but if you look at... But
59:32
if he were the basketball coach, that would probably
59:36
triple or quadruple. Yeah, easily. Yeah, but
59:40
anyway, it's... But yeah, the women rock. Come
59:43
on out and see them. They're so good, and they're
59:45
so fun. Right, so, you know... And Jesse has
59:48
the best seats. Right, and they're at season
59:51
tickets, so I'm... Way to support our... What
59:55
are they called? Lady? The Cardinals. No, they're
59:57
just the Cardinals. Cardinals, thank you. Back
59:59
in the old days, you would always refer to the
1:00:01
women's team as the Lady whatever. Yeah, right.
1:00:04
But no, these are the Cardinals. I love that.
1:00:06
So that use of Lady or the gender identifier
1:00:11
in women's sports is disappearing. Good. Or pretty
1:00:15
much disappeared. I can't think of any team that
1:00:17
goes by Lady whatever anymore. Anyway, so there's
1:00:21
still some season left. I'm really hoping that
1:00:24
they make it into the final four because that's
1:00:27
in Phoenix, and I can go to Phoenix and go to
1:00:30
the final four. And your uncle lives there. Yep.
1:00:33
And aunt. Yeah, so free boarding. Yes, yes, yes.
1:00:37
So let's go Cards. I think that about does it,
1:00:42
Jesse. Okay. Well, we have had a good discussion.
1:00:46
We have links to the various things we talked
1:00:50
about, so we'll include that on the website.
1:00:53
And we will be back in a couple weeks. And again,
1:00:57
I know I'm a broken record, but there is something
1:01:01
that you can do to fight the tyranny that we
1:01:05
are seeing. In this nation, there is something
1:01:08
you can do. And if you need some ideas, DM me
1:01:13
on our website, thebluegrassbluespodcast .com,
1:01:18
and I'll help you. I am here for you. I am here
1:01:22
to serve. Act up. Let's make some good trouble.
1:01:26
Yes, let's make all kinds of good trouble. And
1:01:29
we will see you next time. So until then. Stay
1:01:34
warm. Bye. Our closing music is by John Chamberlain.