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Albertus Barber: From 88 to 98 MPH · The Mound Visit

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Speaker 1: Everything that everyone thinks about what I'm gonna do doesn't matter. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I don't care what they have to say about whether
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Speaker 1: or not they think that I'm gonna throw ninety five.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think back when I was in junior
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Speaker 1: college and like some of my closest friends at the time,
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Speaker 1: when I told them I was gonna throw ninety five
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Speaker 1: and play in the minor leagues and finally get an opportunity.
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, these people laughed in my
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Speaker 1: face and told me that I would never throw ninety
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Speaker 1: five miles per how Okay, I sat up for nineties.
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Speaker 2: All right. So we got my good friend about Esvava
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Speaker 2: on the pucast night, and I'm super excited for it
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Speaker 2: because we played together with the Phillies. But we originally
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Speaker 2: met at drive Line Baseball in twenty eighteen when I
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Speaker 2: was an eighteen year old in I don't know how
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Speaker 2: old you are, but that was the first time we met.
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Speaker 2: And I know you have a pretty crazy journey coming
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Speaker 2: from where you came from into drive Line and to
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Speaker 2: the Phillies. So take us a little bit through your
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Speaker 2: journey from how you actually built there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so originally what happened for me to get to
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Speaker 1: drive Line was I had spent the last seven years
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Speaker 1: of my life being terrible at the game of baseball, Okay,
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Speaker 1: and not only was I terrible, but I couldn't stay healthy.
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Speaker 1: I was lifting two to three times a day because
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Speaker 1: I thought that that was a good idea. I was
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Speaker 1: barely sleeping. Realistically, I was just being as inefficient as
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Speaker 1: possible and doing more and kept breaking down, right, And
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Speaker 1: so I got tired of college. I got tired of
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Speaker 1: going from place to place to try to find answers.
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Speaker 1: And so I was like, all right, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: go to the place that has the most answers right now, clearly,
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Speaker 1: and they did, and so we end up a drive line,
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Speaker 1: and sure enough, when we get there, all the coaches
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Speaker 1: it was just this pool of the most talent we
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Speaker 1: had ever seen, right, And all of those people are
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Speaker 1: working fantastic jobs. They're at the heads of organizations and coordinating,
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Speaker 1: and so you know, that's where we met. And that's
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Speaker 1: where everything started to actually become serious in my journey, Okay,
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Speaker 1: because up until that point, it was essentially just me
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Speaker 1: throwing darts at a dartboard and hoping that something would stick.
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Speaker 1: And every person I went to had a different experience
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Speaker 1: with all of these tools and this information, but it
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Speaker 1: wasn't relevant to the time that we are in. All
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Speaker 1: of the information was older information. It was cookie cutter information,
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Speaker 1: and there wasn't people who had fully dove into biomechanics
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Speaker 1: in kinesiology and just how everything is supposed to move.
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Speaker 1: And you know, so we go there and we have
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Speaker 1: access to these people, and that was a game changer
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Speaker 1: obviously for both of us, because I went from a
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Speaker 1: nobody with an ad R in college to professional baseball.
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Speaker 2: Okay, and you, yeah, I was going to quickly us
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Speaker 2: like when you said you sucked, how bad did you suck?
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Speaker 2: Like give us some actual numbers.
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Speaker 1: So I was so bad at baseball that the fact
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Speaker 1: that I even considered playing professional baseball, I was clearly delusional. Okay.
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Speaker 1: I mean I had a seven point five ERA, I
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Speaker 1: gave up multiple hits perating, my whip was over at two.
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Speaker 1: You know, I walked more than one point five people
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Speaker 1: an inning, and while doing all of this, I'm throwing
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Speaker 1: upper eighties. Okay. So nobody doing that is ever gonna
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Speaker 1: get signed to play professional baseball. Okay. And if you're
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Speaker 1: doing that, realize you're also so far from playing professional
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Speaker 1: baseball that like, if you still believe in yourself, it's
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Speaker 1: a good sign.
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Speaker 2: But anyways, especially now right because it's so hot to
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Speaker 2: get back into approval right.
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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, limited roster spots, but yeah, over a seventy
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Speaker 1: RA walked the house and really just couldn't stay healthy.
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Speaker 1: So not only would I not contribute, but I also
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Speaker 1: couldn't stay healthy, and so I was bad. I was bad.
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Speaker 2: So but you were in the upper eighties, though, was
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Speaker 2: there something that you did like that actually got into
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Speaker 2: the upper eighties or were you kind of like you
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Speaker 2: go to the up eighties pretty quick and then you
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Speaker 2: just stayed there.
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Speaker 1: So what happened was is I was ninety to ninety
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Speaker 1: two in high school, and my senior year I broke
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Speaker 1: my hand diving for a ball, so I couldn't play.
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Speaker 1: But up until that point, up until that point, I
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Speaker 1: had been working with the Texas Baseball ranch from the
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Speaker 1: time that I was twelve until eighteen years old, okay,
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Speaker 1: and so I had been exposed to these more modern
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Speaker 1: training techniques and these ways to get players better that
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Speaker 1: wasn't just pushing off of the rubber or using your
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Speaker 1: glove side to pull open at the right time. You know,
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Speaker 1: we're actually throwing medicine balls, throwing plyoballs. My dad had
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Speaker 1: me throwing weighted balls when I was nine years old.
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Speaker 1: Before people were throwing weighted balls. My father went to
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Speaker 1: academy and bought these differently weighted baseball and at nine
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Speaker 1: years old, he had me thrown them as hard as
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Speaker 1: I could and radar gunning me up my driveway into
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Speaker 1: a net. So he was actually really early when it
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Speaker 1: came to a lot of those things. And so I'm
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Speaker 1: blessed to where I was always exposed to these things.
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Speaker 1: It was just unfortunate that I was born such a
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Speaker 1: terrible athlete and really had to do them for so
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Speaker 1: much longer than everybody else around me. Realistically, so very blessed.
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Speaker 1: But with that blessing was definitely the curse of looking
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Speaker 1: like an uncoordinated kangaroo half the time I was playing baseball.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's awesome. So you say that you're a
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Speaker 2: terrible athlete, but you still go to ninety ninety two.
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Speaker 2: Do you believe that, like anyone can get to that level?
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Speaker 1: Truthfully, I think that if people are willing to actually
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Speaker 1: put their money where their mouth is I don't believe
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Speaker 1: that you are even close to as inhibiting and limiting
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Speaker 1: factor as we think. I think that genetics have been
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Speaker 1: kind of overrated with how we view them now. And
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Speaker 1: I say this because clearly we've evolved through thousands of
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Speaker 1: years of evolution and become significantly better athletes, and at
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Speaker 1: some point somebody had to push the boundary of their
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Speaker 1: own genetics to achieve that. And so sometimes I think
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Speaker 1: that we put too much weight into genetics, and that realistically,
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Speaker 1: if we train hard enough and we're willing to sacrifice
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Speaker 1: ourself and throw ourselves into the flames to adapt, ninety
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Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of the time, the iron is
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Speaker 1: going to become more tough, and you're going to adapt
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Speaker 1: after you come out of that fire, okay. And the
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Speaker 1: thing about that is to get there, you have to
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Speaker 1: be realistic. You have to accept that you're bad or
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Speaker 1: wherever you are, and then you have to be willing
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Speaker 1: to try these different and extreme and these new things
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Speaker 1: and potentially everything until you have the answer that personally
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Speaker 1: works for you. Because there's nothing that works for every
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Speaker 1: single athlete, and then there's some things that might only
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Speaker 1: work for three athletes in history, okay, But the realistic
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Speaker 1: viewpoint on it is is that everything works, and you
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Speaker 1: have to find specifically what works for that athlete and
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Speaker 1: to kind of observe, observe, take notes of everything, and
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Speaker 1: just move forward. Press your own genetics, try extreme things,
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Speaker 1: and it will work. I promise it will work. I
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Speaker 1: went from a twenty two inch vertical as a junior
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Speaker 1: in college to a thirty eight inch vertical okay, within
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Speaker 1: a year and a half. Right, And so you cannot
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Speaker 1: tell me, the person who went from an uncoordinated kangaroo
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Speaker 1: to an elite athlete, that genetics are really that big
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Speaker 1: of a factor, okay, because I just don't believe that.
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Speaker 2: M hmm, yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense.
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Speaker 2: And so you said that, like in college, you're a
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Speaker 2: delusional but you still have that belief that you're going
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Speaker 2: to go play proble, And even when I was with
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Speaker 2: you in twenty eighteen, that was never like a doubt
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Speaker 2: in your mind that, yeah, bro, I'm going proble. Like
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Speaker 2: where do you think that kind of stemmed from.
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Speaker 1: I think it stems a lot from my personality and
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Speaker 1: the fact that if I realistically want something, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to do everything in my power. To go and achieve it.
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Speaker 1: And it also came from understanding that everything that everyone
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Speaker 1: thinks about what I'm gonna do doesn't matter. Okay, I
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Speaker 1: don't care what they have to say about whether or
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Speaker 1: not they think that I'm going to throw ninety five.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think back when I was in junior
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Speaker 1: college and like some of my closest friends at the time,
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Speaker 1: when I told them I was gonna throw ninety five
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Speaker 1: and play in the minor leagues and finally get an opportunity.
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, these people laughed in my
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Speaker 1: face and told me that I would never throw ninety
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Speaker 1: five miles per how Okay, I sat up her nineties
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Speaker 1: before I exploded, all right, I promise, Like when when
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Speaker 1: they told me that, I just used it as fuel
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Speaker 1: for the fire for the next twelve months, okay.
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Speaker 2: And so.
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Speaker 1: All of these people that told me these things, all
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Speaker 1: these people who didn't believe in me, they all quit. Okay,
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Speaker 1: every single one of these people quit. And so you
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Speaker 1: have to understand that a lot of the time, when
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Speaker 1: people are telling you you're not going to do these things,
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Speaker 1: or they're telling you your dreams aren't realistic, it's it's
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Speaker 1: really just them projecting the fact that they'll never fully
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Speaker 1: commit to anything in their entire lives, all right, and
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Speaker 1: they don't believe that you can do it because they
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Speaker 1: don't believe that they can do it, And because they
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Speaker 1: don't believe they can do it, that's why they just
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Speaker 1: project that you can't do it either. But the reality
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Speaker 1: is in this world is that if you put your
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Speaker 1: left foot forward and then you put your right foot forward,
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Speaker 1: and then you just repeat that over and over and
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Speaker 1: over again, and you keep walking in the right direction,
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Speaker 1: eventually you're gonna stumble on something really good. And whether
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Speaker 1: that's you achieving your dreams and everything that you wanted,
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Speaker 1: or maybe that's just you had the greatest journey that
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Speaker 1: you could have ever imagined, and it took you and
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Speaker 1: took all of your weaknesses and insecurities and shoved them
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Speaker 1: in your face and made you become a man. That's
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Speaker 1: also a win. And the reality is is this one
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Speaker 1: is the normal journey for most people, men and women.
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Speaker 1: That's called life, you know, And so that's the beauty
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Speaker 1: of it.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: I also understood from an early age it's not about
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Speaker 1: whether I achieve fully what I think I'm going to
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Speaker 1: achieve or not. It's about whether I really believe myself.
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Speaker 1: I believe in myself enough to pursue this dream to
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Speaker 1: the fullest possible extent, longer than every single person that
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Speaker 1: I grew up playing with, in every single person around me.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I truthfully believe equates to success as
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Speaker 1: consistency not taking no for an answer and you just
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Speaker 1: got to keep walking, pound the stone until it breaks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's so powerful because like a lot of
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Speaker 2: play is you know, it's trite, but everyone says like
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Speaker 2: it's the journey, not the destination, and you know that's
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Speaker 2: being thrown around everywhere, but it's so true. Where like
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Speaker 2: some players are like, you know what, I don't think
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be able to make the big so
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Speaker 2: why even try? You know, like I'm not even gonna try.
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Speaker 2: But like, the the most meaningful stuff comes from the
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Speaker 2: purshoot and actually putting your best effort into it. I'm curious,
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Speaker 2: do you think, like all those doubtas are what really
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Speaker 2: fueled that like belief in yourself to become a pro Like,
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Speaker 2: was that the fuel that got you going, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, it was. It was probably a
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Speaker 1: good thirty percent of it. Seventy percent of it was
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Speaker 1: for you know, Jesus, my family, and then the other
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Speaker 1: thirty percent was always for them, you know. And that's
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Speaker 1: because that thirty percent was basically if I went over
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Speaker 1: that thirty percent, then I would be consumed with anger. Realistically,
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Speaker 1: I would have only been focused on pursuing all the
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Speaker 1: people that didn't believe in me, but having only a
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Speaker 1: slatted small amount for them to where I can just
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Speaker 1: utilize them as an unlimited energy source. That's different, right.
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Speaker 1: And I talked to an athlete earlier about this because
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Speaker 1: he dealt with a bad coach, and the coach took
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Speaker 1: away a year of his eligibility essentially by not informing
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Speaker 1: him that he didn't make the team until a couple
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Speaker 1: days before season started, which, in all reality, if you're
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Speaker 1: a decent human being, you're going to inform that athlete
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Speaker 1: well before they're about to lose a year of their life. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you tell them so that they can go and play
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Speaker 1: somewhere else. I promised he knew well before this season anyways.
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Speaker 1: But we were having this conversation and I told him,
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Speaker 1: I said, hey, just so you know, all these people
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Speaker 1: who don't believe in you. Every time that you decide
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Speaker 1: you're not going to do what you're supposed to do,
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Speaker 1: they're right. I was like, they're right right about you.
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Speaker 1: And so every time you don't do what you're supposed
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Speaker 1: to do and you don't take advantage of this opportunity
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Speaker 1: that you've been given, yeah, you should be mad at
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Speaker 1: yourself because you didn't have enough accountability to get it done.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you're proving the people against
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Speaker 1: you correct. And so you need to realize that there's
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Speaker 1: weighting your decisions.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: You can either be walking in the right direction and
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Speaker 1: really about your convictions that you say you're about, or
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Speaker 1: you're walking in the wrong direction and the person that
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Speaker 1: you disliked was actually correct about you the whole time.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: And so I think that there's a fine line between
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Speaker 1: not getting obsessed over the people who tell you that
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Speaker 1: you aren't going to do something, but then also remembering
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Speaker 1: them and understanding that you don't want to prove them right.
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Speaker 1: You know, if you're really about what you say you
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Speaker 1: are as a man, then you're going to get this
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Speaker 1: job done and you're not gonna let them be correct.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. That's awesome, all right, So I want
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Speaker 2: to go into so okay, like you sucked in college
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Speaker 2: and then you decided to pursue drive line baseball, and
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Speaker 2: so you get there. What year did you get there?
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Speaker 1: I got there on August twenty third, two thousand and eighteen.
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Speaker 2: Oh okay, so damn I actually might have been there. No,
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Speaker 2: I would have come a little bit off the I
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Speaker 2: guess maybe I went in twenty nineteen. Actually maybe it
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Speaker 2: wasn't twenty eighteen, but yeah, just talk me through what
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Speaker 2: happened when you got there, like what made that transformation happen?
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I get there and in my original motion capture,
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting about ninety to ninety two. I had been
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Speaker 1: up to ninety four in games, but I hadn't been
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Speaker 1: up to ninety four in months. And this was after
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Speaker 1: I started getting programmed by a guy named Taylor Burns.
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Speaker 1: And Taylor Burns was the first person that introduced me
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Speaker 1: to the more modern side of lifting and pitching. And
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Speaker 1: the programs look significantly different than anything I'd ever seen.
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Speaker 1: But he starts to program me, I get up to
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Speaker 1: ninety four miles per hour doing that, the first actual
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Speaker 1: real weight room program I've ever done in my life. Essentially,
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Speaker 1: it's not me going on bodybuilding dot com and crushing
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Speaker 1: thirty day programs where we lift every day, right like
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Speaker 1: it was actually tailored for baseball. And so I get
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Speaker 1: on this program with Taylor Burns. We get up to
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Speaker 1: ninety four. I go to drive line and I'd only
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Speaker 1: been sitting ninety ninety two for a little bit. And
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Speaker 1: we realized that one I have no external rotation, which
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Speaker 1: was crazy, I'm basically pushing the ball in the lower
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Speaker 1: mid nineties, and that I had zero counter rotation of
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Speaker 1: my torso, and that I just moved really fast, Like
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Speaker 1: I just moved really fast. But there was no method
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Speaker 1: to my madness. It was me every bit brute forcing
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Speaker 1: every single ounce of velo that I got. Okay, there
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Speaker 1: was no art to it at all. And believe me
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Speaker 1: when I say that, because I didn't really know where
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Speaker 1: it was going either. And so we get there and
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Speaker 1: then I meet these two people, and these two people
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Speaker 1: were the biggest influence of my life. Actually, these three
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Speaker 1: people were the biggest influence of my whole career. No,
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Speaker 1: we got to redo that. These four people, these four
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Speaker 1: people were the biggest influence of my whole career. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: Kyle Body, just the way that he created this business,
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Speaker 1: how he took nets out of the shouldn't to form
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Speaker 1: his batting cages when he first started this facility, and
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Speaker 1: just how he believed so much that this was the
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Speaker 1: future of baseball. And that really sold me because he
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Speaker 1: really practiced what he preached, but he also practiced a
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Speaker 1: lot more than he preached, And that says a lot
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Speaker 1: about a man to me. And so I get there
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Speaker 1: and it's Kyle Body, Rob Hill, Eric Jagers, Sambrin, and
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Speaker 1: I'm picking these guys' brains every day. I ended up
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Speaker 1: being lucky enough to go ahead and live with Eric
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Speaker 1: Jagers and Rob Hill for a little bit. And these
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Speaker 1: guys did not sleep, okay. These guys studied baseball every
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Speaker 1: single hour of the day. I'm talking. They would get
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Speaker 1: home at two am and we would go over my
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Speaker 1: mechanics and pitch arsenal and pitch design until three four
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Speaker 1: in the morning. They would sleep till six They would
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Speaker 1: wake up to drive line and repeat this every day.
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Speaker 1: They were sleeping three four hours a night. I've never
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Speaker 1: seen anybody work as hard as these humans and half okay,
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Speaker 1: and even at the end of these long, twelve to
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Speaker 1: fifteen hour days, they would still pour themselves into me
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Speaker 1: and help educate me about all of this. So I'm
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Speaker 1: forever grateful for all of those lines, for Rob and
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Speaker 1: Jaggers for educating me while I live with him, and
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Speaker 1: then Sam for letting me bug him.
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Speaker 2: Almost just before you go into Sam, like, where where's
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Speaker 2: Rob and Jagos right now? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: So Rob is currently a pitching coordinator for the Los
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Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers, and Jagers also has a higher up position
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Speaker 1: with the Mets. I don't know the official title of
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Speaker 1: Jager's position, though, we should probably look at.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it's like head of pitching.
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Speaker 2: I think it's like the head guy for the minor
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Speaker 2: leagues and the Mets. Yeah, something like that, both like big,
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Speaker 2: big guys.
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Speaker 1: And then Jaggers was the Yeah he's the head of
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Speaker 1: Sam's the pitching coordinator too, right, Yeah he is, oh Yankees.
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Speaker 1: Yeah that was crazy to seeing him. But yeah, so
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Speaker 1: the people I lived with end up becoming a pitching
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Speaker 1: coordinator for the Los Angeles Dodgers, and then Eric Jagers
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Speaker 1: goes and now he is the head of pitching for
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Speaker 1: the Mets, and so yeah, that was clearly gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest right now. I know Rob said
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Speaker 1: changed history with being the youngest coordinator in all baseball.
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Speaker 1: If you talk to him for more than fifteen minutes,
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Speaker 1: you could have called back coming. And the same thing
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Speaker 1: with Jaggers. Okay, these are two of the most brilliant,
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Speaker 1: well polished minds that I have ever had the honor
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Speaker 1: of knowing. And then on top of that, when I
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Speaker 1: go into the facility, I get to talk to Sam Breen. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Sam is now a coordinator for the Yankees. And Sam
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Speaker 1: is also one of the greatest, most well polished minds
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Speaker 1: of all time. And he'll pull down with you, he'll
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Speaker 1: compete against you. Sam could be thrown eighty nine, you
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Speaker 1: could be throwing one hundred and four. He's competing against
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Speaker 1: you on pulldowns. Is it really realistic for him? No,
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Speaker 1: not at all. But that's what makes Sam a bulldog.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: And so I have three of the greatest minds I've
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Speaker 1: ever met, and I was lucky to even be able
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Speaker 1: to be around them for a moment of time and
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Speaker 1: absorb anything they had to say. And then obviously props
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Speaker 1: to Kyle Body because the fact that he just amassed
22:41
Speaker 1: all of these people in one area at the same time. Astounding,
22:46
Speaker 1: truthfully astounding and the craziest thing I've seen in my
22:51
Speaker 1: career up until this day.
22:54
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, like when I was there at drive Line, Like,
22:58
Speaker 2: it's crazy looking back, Like every single one of those
23:01
Speaker 2: guys has a big time position in an MLB organization,
23:06
Speaker 2: and I'll say, damn, like, probably should have taken more
23:10
Speaker 2: advantage of that, you know, listen to them a little
23:12
Speaker 2: bit more instead of arguing them. But all right, this
23:16
Speaker 2: one's gonna be a hard one. But so you're living
23:22
Speaker 2: with Jagas and rough Hill, what was some of like
23:27
Speaker 2: the biggest things that you learned from them?
23:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, first of all, Rob and Jaggers simplified everything
23:40
Speaker 1: that we understood at the time about mechanics to me
23:43
Speaker 1: in the simplest forms, right, So I got to learn
23:48
Speaker 1: energy specific dominances. We went over crazy theories we had
23:53
Speaker 1: in the weight room that ended up being true years later.
23:58
Speaker 1: You know, we're not going to talk about some of
24:01
Speaker 1: the operations that we conducted on even ourselves at the time,
24:07
Speaker 1: but realistically, they taught me everything that I could have
24:12
Speaker 1: ever wanted to learn about how energy moves up the chain.
24:17
Speaker 1: What needs to happen, Who needs to have this separation.
24:22
Speaker 1: What do we need to worry about if somebody has
24:25
Speaker 1: a genetic bias or if they have a genetic defect
24:29
Speaker 1: from birth? How do we approach this, How to find compensations,
24:33
Speaker 1: how to find what people are elite at compensating at,
24:36
Speaker 1: and how to find things that we take that are
24:39
Speaker 1: bad and make them good enough that they're good, but
24:43
Speaker 1: they don't take away from the things that we do
24:45
Speaker 1: elite right, because every athlete is different, and the fact
24:50
Speaker 1: that they taught me so well how to observe that
24:56
Speaker 1: every athlete is so much different and there are no
24:59
Speaker 1: absolutes and there is no one answer for these people.
25:04
Speaker 1: It really helped me throughout my whole career because you
25:09
Speaker 1: observe every case as a new case, which is what
25:11
Speaker 1: it is.
25:12
Speaker 2: Right.
25:13
Speaker 1: I understand that coaches have buckets, and buckets are good
25:16
Speaker 1: for original base organization, but at the end of the day,
25:20
Speaker 1: that athlete is a very specific person, and that athlete's
25:24
Speaker 1: parents and his grandparents and their lineage for hundreds of
25:28
Speaker 1: years and however they have adapted, have come to create
25:32
Speaker 1: this human being. Okay, and this human being is nothing
25:36
Speaker 1: like me, and this human being is nothing like you.
25:39
Speaker 1: They could be better, they could be significantly worse. It
25:42
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because it's not the same. So I'm very
25:45
Speaker 1: grateful that they taught me how to be aware of
25:48
Speaker 1: all the differences and to account for everything, and to
25:53
Speaker 1: never just take one thing as the answer, but to
25:57
Speaker 1: explore every possible option on playing at Earth and understand
26:02
Speaker 1: that even within those options, we might not have the
26:06
Speaker 1: answer and we might have to go find the answer.
26:10
Speaker 1: And understanding that all of these answers, including the ones
26:14
Speaker 1: that everybody in the baseball industry is making, are not correct.
26:18
Speaker 1: You know, they're just not correct. Four years ago, we're
26:22
Speaker 1: pitch designing people with tools that we now know don't
26:26
Speaker 1: even properly work and don't tell the story at all. Okay,
26:30
Speaker 1: I'm not going to name them, but globally we know that.
26:34
Speaker 1: And so you just have to realize and take a
26:37
Speaker 1: step back and say, all right, I can only absorb
26:41
Speaker 1: everything with a grain of salt. And we all have
26:44
Speaker 1: to understand that in two years from now, everything we
26:47
Speaker 1: believe could be wrong and there's a good chance of that, okay,
26:54
Speaker 1: And so athletes also need to understand that all the
26:59
Speaker 1: people that they're are also wrong, okay, and that ultimately
27:03
Speaker 1: the only person at the end of the day who
27:06
Speaker 1: will have the perfect answer is going to be the athlete.
27:10
Speaker 1: And that's why the business of coaching people is not
27:14
Speaker 1: only coaching them to throw hard. If you want effective
27:18
Speaker 1: long term athletes who are going to become big leaguers,
27:21
Speaker 1: who are going to become self sustainable and become who
27:24
Speaker 1: they need to also become in life, you have to
27:28
Speaker 1: let them fail. Okay. You have to let them fail,
27:31
Speaker 1: and you have to teach them all of the answers
27:34
Speaker 1: that you know along the way so that they can
27:37
Speaker 1: take this knowledge, apply it to themselves and progressively figure
27:41
Speaker 1: out those answers. And so at the end of the day,
27:46
Speaker 1: and I knew this when I was playing, and you
27:49
Speaker 1: knew this when you were playing, it's not anybody's job
27:53
Speaker 1: to make sure that I get to the big leagues
27:55
Speaker 1: and that all of the answers that everybody gives me
27:59
Speaker 1: might get me to ninety five, But if I want
28:02
Speaker 1: to get to one hundred miles per hour, I'm gonna
28:05
Speaker 1: have to find those last couple of answers.
28:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. So basically, you get to drive line,
28:13
Speaker 2: you're ninety ninety two, and now you're living with Jagiz
28:16
Speaker 2: and rub Hill and you guys are just brainstoleing and
28:20
Speaker 2: just studying. And then you know, when I got there,
28:24
Speaker 2: I saw you do a vlo off with Cosin Lindo.
28:29
Speaker 2: Is that what his name is? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, And
28:33
Speaker 2: you guys were sitting, you know, ninety seven ninety eight.
28:36
Speaker 2: So what kind of what was like the couple big
28:39
Speaker 2: things that happened during that time that got you from
28:43
Speaker 2: ninety two to ninety seven ninety eight. Yeah.
28:47
Speaker 1: So the first thing that we did was we took
28:52
Speaker 1: all of the things that I considered were plyo drills
28:55
Speaker 1: and we turned them into actual, functional applio drills that
29:00
Speaker 1: didn't just look like I was making stuff up. Okay,
29:03
Speaker 1: So I figure out how to move, you know, I
29:06
Speaker 1: always knew how to be strong and fast. That was
29:10
Speaker 1: never a problem for me. I had to learn how
29:13
Speaker 1: to create separation and I had to learn how to
29:16
Speaker 1: time up my body. And ultimately, I think that this
29:20
Speaker 1: is the largest part of pitching, right is energy is king.
29:24
Speaker 1: And we know energy is king because we can have
29:28
Speaker 1: a bunch of people that throw a hundred and a
29:30
Speaker 1: bunch of guruves can't actually explain to me why they
29:33
Speaker 1: perfectly throw a hundred. Okay, nobody can explain it to me.
29:37
Speaker 1: We just have a bunch of random things that we
29:39
Speaker 1: think are why they throw a hundred while I'm being honest,
29:44
Speaker 1: and so at the end of the day, the only
29:49
Speaker 1: thing that's not going to drive us away from everything
29:53
Speaker 1: is energy, is king, okay, And it's why a kid
29:57
Speaker 1: can have bad mechanics and throw a hundred, and why
30:00
Speaker 1: if you make their mechanics good, they might throw ninety six.
30:03
Speaker 1: And so we have to observe and realize even when
30:08
Speaker 1: I was training, right that like me, trying hard all
30:13
Speaker 1: the time wasn't the greatest idea. Okay, I had to
30:18
Speaker 1: actually take a step back and realize, all right, all right,
30:22
Speaker 1: all right, maybe me just yelling as loud as I
30:26
Speaker 1: can and brute forcing this ball somewhere towards home plate
30:30
Speaker 1: is not the most effective way to throw a hundred.
30:33
Speaker 1: And then you learn that it's not. You learn that
30:36
Speaker 1: throwing really hard is holding yourself in reverse as best
30:40
Speaker 1: as you possible possibly can and timing these impulses at
30:45
Speaker 1: the perfect timing. Okay, And if you miss that timing,
30:49
Speaker 1: you can lose a couple miles per hour, and so
30:53
Speaker 1: everybody thinks it's go, go, go forward. What I learned
30:58
Speaker 1: is that it's energy forward. You're holding all of your
31:02
Speaker 1: body back as hard as you possibly can, and then
31:06
Speaker 1: for one split second you turn everything on in the
31:09
Speaker 1: correct order, and that's throwing hard.
31:13
Speaker 2: So you say, like holding everything back, Like, what do
31:16
Speaker 2: you mean by that? Is it like practical things that
31:19
Speaker 2: you can actually do, is like keep your gloveside clothes,
31:22
Speaker 2: like staying counter rotation, or like what's like a practical
31:26
Speaker 2: thing that people can take away from all right? Just
31:29
Speaker 2: holding everything back?
31:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, So essentially it comes down to when we're trying
31:37
Speaker 1: to hold everything back in our body, when we're trying
31:40
Speaker 1: to time everything up and get the largest possible stretch
31:43
Speaker 1: out of our muscle tissues. We want to be thinking about, Okay,
31:51
Speaker 1: if I release all of my energy as hard as
31:54
Speaker 1: I can right now at that target, am I able
31:59
Speaker 1: to rotate as hard or as I can and stop
32:01
Speaker 1: myself to where my energy would direct itself through the target?
32:06
Speaker 1: It is my energy through the target. And if the
32:11
Speaker 1: answer is no, if our energy is away from the target,
32:15
Speaker 1: or maybe it's way to the other side of the target.
32:19
Speaker 2: Then.
32:22
Speaker 1: Something is happening in our system ourselves in reverse, we
32:27
Speaker 1: want to be thinking about how can we stretch our
32:32
Speaker 1: muscle tissues as much as possible to our peak performance
32:39
Speaker 1: genetic area, and then how do we take that stretch
32:44
Speaker 1: and turn on the impulse to also simultaneously fill the gap? Okay,
32:49
Speaker 1: because it's not just a muscle group pulling on itself.
32:52
Speaker 1: It's also an active firing of the muscle group. And
32:56
Speaker 1: so if we take our body and we don't let
33:01
Speaker 1: it stretch, and let's say we get to hear and
33:05
Speaker 1: then we fire, well, we're only utilizing fifty percent of
33:09
Speaker 1: all of our possible energy. And so it's about finding
33:15
Speaker 1: basically our range of motion that we can utilize across
33:19
Speaker 1: our entire body to take this baseball and project it
33:24
Speaker 1: through the catcher as hard as we possibly can and
33:28
Speaker 1: be efficient with our direction. And so that I think
33:33
Speaker 1: is the easiest way to explain it.
33:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that makes sense. So yeah, basically just holding
33:40
Speaker 2: everything back so you can just snap at the last second.
33:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because our body's tissues are diagonal and pitching is diagonal, okay,
33:51
Speaker 1: and so if we're not fully utilizing the diagonal stretch
33:55
Speaker 1: of our body, which is called biotenseegrity. Then we're not
33:59
Speaker 1: playing into the base foundation of how our bodies are created.
34:04
Speaker 1: And so when our bodies are created to be diagonally stretched,
34:09
Speaker 1: we all have a certain amount that works for us
34:13
Speaker 1: and a certain amount that doesn't work for us. But
34:16
Speaker 1: the average amount is pretty consistent. It's pretty consistently within
34:20
Speaker 1: the same window.
34:23
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's awesome. So I want to dive into
34:30
Speaker 2: So now you're throwing in the upper eighty upper nineties, sorry,
34:34
Speaker 2: and then you we throw in a pro day together.
34:39
Speaker 2: I remember that we we both throw on a pro day.
34:43
Speaker 2: It wasn't my best pro day, but I'll still in
34:46
Speaker 2: the mid nineties, and I think, you, what did you
34:50
Speaker 2: hit in that pro day?
34:52
Speaker 4: Oh?
34:52
Speaker 1: Terrible? Ninety four?
34:54
Speaker 2: Oh so you hit ninety four, but you still got
34:57
Speaker 2: a call from the Phillies right to go and try out. Yeah.
35:01
Speaker 1: So all of my pro days so far have been terrible.
35:08
Speaker 1: And thank goodness that all the people that actually cared
35:12
Speaker 1: about my arm came to watch me and live at
35:16
Speaker 1: bats because genuinely speaking, my bullpens are terrible. And that's
35:22
Speaker 1: because when I'm throwing a bullpen, it's only me competing
35:26
Speaker 1: against myself, and that drives me crazy because I can't win.
35:30
Speaker 1: That it's impossible to beat me. I promise I'm not
35:33
Speaker 1: gonna win, Okay. I have the utmost expectation of myself
35:38
Speaker 1: to hit twenty five out of twenty five spots, even
35:41
Speaker 1: as unrealistic as that sounds. If I only at twenty four,
35:44
Speaker 1: I'm yelling okay. And so I threw a terrible pro day.
35:50
Speaker 1: I had actually just finished coming down from pneumonia. I'd
35:55
Speaker 1: lost twenty pounds and show up to this PRODA down
36:01
Speaker 1: twenty pounds feeling terrible. And I actually did all right
36:08
Speaker 1: hitting my spots, but all my stuff was bad. And
36:13
Speaker 1: I was only ninety two ninety four, primarily ninety two,
36:18
Speaker 1: and it was bad. Yeah, all my prodas have been terrible.
36:22
Speaker 1: But the Phillies had seen me previously before this pro day,
36:27
Speaker 1: and they had saw me and Live at Bats, And
36:31
Speaker 1: when the Live at Bats was happening, because it was
36:34
Speaker 1: the first time the Phillies came to watch me, they
36:38
Speaker 1: they actually just came for a high school kid. The
36:40
Speaker 1: Phillies came to watch a high school kid. Body told
36:44
Speaker 1: the Philly scout that he should stick around and watch
36:46
Speaker 1: this redhead kid named Albertus and so Zach. Zach Friedman,
36:50
Speaker 1: who was the scout, ends up sticking around to watch
36:53
Speaker 1: me throw live at bats. So I'm throwing live at bats.
36:57
Speaker 1: Don't give up a hit, almost strike everybody you out,
37:01
Speaker 1: and well, problematically, after three, you know, three batters of
37:07
Speaker 1: this bullpen, I was sick, guys, extremely sick.
37:12
Speaker 2: Bike.
37:12
Speaker 1: I had been throwing up for the past twelve hours.
37:15
Speaker 1: I woke up that morning, I felt terrible. I drank
37:18
Speaker 1: a bunch of coffee. I tried to eat some food,
37:21
Speaker 1: almost threw up eating the food, and I was just like,
37:24
Speaker 1: you know what, whatever, We're gonna throw live at bats, Okay,
37:28
Speaker 1: So I go. I'm sitting ninety four to ninety six
37:31
Speaker 1: and three batters in, I just start throwing up everywhere.
37:36
Speaker 1: I run through the trash can and I just start
37:39
Speaker 1: projectile vomiting. Rob Hill's video taping it at the time.
37:43
Speaker 1: I looked to my ride. He's like, got the camera
37:45
Speaker 1: all up in my face while I'm yacking. So wherever
37:49
Speaker 1: that footage is, we need to find it. And I
37:51
Speaker 1: just start throwing up everywhere. Everybody's looking at me like
37:55
Speaker 1: I'm crazy, and I just grabbed.
37:58
Speaker 3: A ball and yelled can rally baby, and I got
38:03
Speaker 3: back on the mound and I just kept throwing the
38:05
Speaker 3: live AB's until I almost threw up again.
38:09
Speaker 1: And then everybody was like, all right, we can't do
38:12
Speaker 1: this anymore. You're good, You're good. So the Philly scout
38:16
Speaker 1: was obviously really hesitant to shake my hand because obviously
38:21
Speaker 1: I was so sick. I was yacking everywhere, so rightfully,
38:24
Speaker 1: so he had me fell out a form and from
38:28
Speaker 1: then on it was just we stayed in contact. They
38:31
Speaker 1: came out to the pro day and I sucked, and
38:33
Speaker 1: then they called me and they're like, hey, can you
38:37
Speaker 1: go back to back and throw this next day live
38:41
Speaker 1: at bats at this junior college. And so I was like, yeah,
38:47
Speaker 1: of course I can. And everybody is telling me. Everybody's
38:53
Speaker 1: telling me, burnist, don't go throw, don't go throw live
38:56
Speaker 1: at bats. You just threw a pro day. You just
38:58
Speaker 1: threw thirty five pitches. You can't just go throw tomorrow.
39:02
Speaker 1: And thank goodness, I ignored everyone, uh, and I actually
39:06
Speaker 1: went to throw. I show up to the field. Blake
39:10
Speaker 1: Snell's dad is the coach of the junior college. Okay,
39:14
Speaker 1: he's the man. Blake Snell's dad is the man. So
39:18
Speaker 1: if you're watching this, coach Snell, You're the man, all right.
39:21
Speaker 1: But I show up. I go out there, I throw
39:26
Speaker 1: like twenty five pitches. I'm sitting ninety three ninety four.
39:30
Speaker 1: Everybody's out there and they're like, all right, like that
39:33
Speaker 1: was a really good bullpen you done. And I was like, no,
39:37
Speaker 1: give me your f and hitters. And they were like
39:40
Speaker 1: what And I was like, give me your f and hitters.
39:44
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't drive an hour and a
39:46
Speaker 1: half to sit here and throw a bullpen. Give me
39:48
Speaker 1: your hitters. And so, sure enough, they give me their hitters.
39:54
Speaker 1: I strike out two guys. One guy pops up and
39:57
Speaker 1: I walk up to the general manager or the assistant
40:01
Speaker 1: general manager at the Phillies at the time, who's Brian Minitti,
40:04
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, so, when can we do this thing.
40:06
Speaker 1: I'll take a Snickers bar right now.
40:08
Speaker 2: I was like.
40:10
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, that's all I said, hold on,
40:13
Speaker 1: read you. So I walk up to Minitti and I'm like, hey, Brian, No,
40:20
Speaker 1: I didn't know his fucking name. I walk up toi
40:22
Speaker 1: Minitti and I'm like, hey, man, so when are we
40:25
Speaker 1: going to do this? I was like, I'll take zero dollars.
40:28
Speaker 1: I just want to play. I don't care. I was like,
40:31
Speaker 1: please get me out of here as fast as possible.
40:33
Speaker 1: And he's obviously like, who in the world is this guy?
40:39
Speaker 1: Because all the other players are keeping to themselves, they're quiet,
40:43
Speaker 1: they're minding their own business. Here, I am like me
40:48
Speaker 1: and Blake Snell's dad are so fired up. We're yelling.
40:51
Speaker 1: And then I'm like walking up to the assistant general
40:54
Speaker 1: manager and I'm like, so, where's my job? And so
40:59
Speaker 1: I tell about take zero dollars. I don't care. I
41:02
Speaker 1: just want to play, and sure enough he starts laughing.
41:06
Speaker 1: We started making jokes and he's like, hey, we'll give
41:08
Speaker 1: you a snickers bar. I was like, look, you give
41:11
Speaker 1: me that. I was like, I'll split it with you.
41:13
Speaker 1: I was like, we can kind and man, just let
41:16
Speaker 1: me go play and uh so we kept talking and
41:20
Speaker 1: that was the end of it. And I think that
41:23
Speaker 1: was really what secured my job in professional baseball because
41:27
Speaker 1: my pro day sucked. They were all historically bad they
41:31
Speaker 1: probably always will be. But when it was time to
41:34
Speaker 1: compete and I was healthy, I was you know, I've
41:37
Speaker 1: always been good, and so that's where I shine. It's
41:40
Speaker 1: not in Bullpens. It's always in competition. And so I'm
41:44
Speaker 1: glad that I ignored everyone's advice and went back to back
41:47
Speaker 1: after a pro day and went through for the Phillies
41:50
Speaker 1: because it ended up getting me signed to go play
41:54
Speaker 1: for the Phillies.
41:56
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's so funny. That's that's a legendary story.
42:00
Speaker 2: I've heard it from then idiot as well when with
42:03
Speaker 2: the Phillies, and yeah, that's just awesome. So before we
42:08
Speaker 2: wrap up, just walk us through, like quickly, like what
42:12
Speaker 2: happened in minor league baseball, like your experience and where
42:18
Speaker 2: you're looking to go from here.
42:22
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I don't know if I can even answer
42:26
Speaker 1: that question for you, my guy. I don't know if
42:31
Speaker 1: I can truthfully even tell you what I'm gonna do
42:35
Speaker 1: right now. I can't even tell you what I'm gonna
42:37
Speaker 1: do with this ship tomorrow. Man, I don't think I
42:39
Speaker 1: can answer that question.
42:42
Speaker 2: Just have just your minor league experience then, oh.
42:46
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so my minor league experience was awesome. I
42:52
Speaker 1: go and I used to be the guy who was
42:54
Speaker 1: an a d r A in college. I go get
42:57
Speaker 1: my first attempt at playing professional baseball, and I have
43:03
Speaker 1: at sub one in the ra I can't remember what
43:05
Speaker 1: it was. My first year is less than a one
43:07
Speaker 1: is something, and I just remember the first thing that
43:11
Speaker 1: I learned was everybody's a lot better here, and I'm
43:16
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I was looking around at first, and
43:19
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, and I'm like, you know, do I
43:23
Speaker 1: belong here? Like what's going on? My catch partner's throwing
43:27
Speaker 1: one hundred mile per hour fastballs, ninety one mile per
43:30
Speaker 1: hour sliders, Like I'm sitting two to four, okay, and
43:37
Speaker 1: Schultz is out here pumping a hundred. I'm legally blind
43:40
Speaker 1: and this guy is just blowing me up. Okay, I
43:43
Speaker 1: can't even see anything, and my catch partner throws one
43:46
Speaker 1: hundred miles per hour. I'm definitely wondering if I'm supposed
43:49
Speaker 1: to be there. But honestly, I think the thing that
43:54
Speaker 1: really propelled me ahead of everybody was that I didn't
43:58
Speaker 1: really look at it as this larger than life thing,
44:04
Speaker 1: you know, Like I had already envisioned this for so
44:08
Speaker 1: long in my life that by the time that I
44:11
Speaker 1: got there, it was realistically just me having fun. I
44:16
Speaker 1: had already stressed as much as humanly possible about this game. Okay,
44:21
Speaker 1: So by the time that I got to finally go
44:24
Speaker 1: and play this game after sucking as much as I did,
44:28
Speaker 1: you know, everything was easy, and while I was healthy
44:32
Speaker 1: the whole time, it was easy. And it wasn't that
44:35
Speaker 1: I was this miraculously good player who had this crazy
44:41
Speaker 1: stuff in command. It was just the fact that I
44:45
Speaker 1: loved the game so much and then I had so
44:48
Speaker 1: much fun playing the game that all of this pressure
44:52
Speaker 1: that everybody felt, I never felt. So no situation was
44:55
Speaker 1: too big for me. And unfortunately my career was cut
45:01
Speaker 1: short by you know, injuries and rehab and problems, and honestly,
45:07
Speaker 1: like that's just part of life. You know, I had
45:12
Speaker 1: an awesome time. The whole time I was healthy, I
45:15
Speaker 1: had less than a two R and every time I
45:18
Speaker 1: was dealing with something on my elbow or something in
45:21
Speaker 1: my shoulder. Yeah, obviously I had above like a seven
45:25
Speaker 1: R eight. But that's just life, you know. We just
45:29
Speaker 1: move on. But at the end of the day, I
45:31
Speaker 1: wasn't about to sit here and not throw for my boys,
45:34
Speaker 1: you know, like I would rather thrown in pain every
45:38
Speaker 1: time and competed with my boys than gone back on
45:41
Speaker 1: that il. So regardless of the injuries and the ups
45:45
Speaker 1: and the downs. The ups were super high, Like, the
45:48
Speaker 1: ups were as high as I could have ever imagined them, okay,
45:52
Speaker 1: and then the lows, I'm gonna be honest, there's low
45:55
Speaker 1: as you could also imagine them. And like, that's why
45:59
Speaker 1: baseball is such a sport of consistency, okay. And that's
46:03
Speaker 1: why these players who get paid the most money, it's
46:06
Speaker 1: because they're the most consistent because in all reality, you're
46:10
Speaker 1: living in a world that is here and here, Okay,
46:14
Speaker 1: you rarely ever live here. If you're living here, you're
46:17
Speaker 1: probably in the minor leagues, you know. But realistically, even
46:23
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues, when it starts to get serious
46:26
Speaker 1: and you're not in rookie ball anymore, and you're starting
46:29
Speaker 1: to see better talent, like it just slowly gets bigger
46:32
Speaker 1: and bigger, okay. And that's why the people who have
46:35
Speaker 1: the most success are the people that stay here regardless
46:38
Speaker 1: of how big it gets. And I think that was
46:41
Speaker 1: a massive part of my success as well, is it
46:44
Speaker 1: didn't matter who I was in a room with. I
46:47
Speaker 1: look at us as we're all the same, okay, And
46:50
Speaker 1: I'll do anything for the person to my left and
46:52
Speaker 1: the person to my right, especially if they're on my team.
46:56
Speaker 1: And then it's like, then you take those highs, you
47:01
Speaker 1: take those lows, you take all the good experiences and
47:05
Speaker 1: everything in between, and you just keep pressing forward. And
47:09
Speaker 1: for some people, they play fourteen years of any ball
47:13
Speaker 1: and then they finally go and make it to the
47:15
Speaker 1: big leagues, like Brandon Mann, you know. And some people
47:19
Speaker 1: they make it to the big leagues without ever playing
47:22
Speaker 1: a minor league game because they're so good, like Garrett Crochet.
47:26
Speaker 1: And so it's not up to you which path is yours,
47:30
Speaker 1: it's not. It's just your path. And regardless of if
47:34
Speaker 1: you make it or not, realize that most of the
47:37
Speaker 1: people around you aren't typically going to want to be there,
47:42
Speaker 1: and you need to not let that affect you, okay,
47:46
Speaker 1: because as you progress through the minor leagues, the people
47:50
Speaker 1: who don't want to be there slowly start to get
47:53
Speaker 1: weeded out, and the people that want to be there
47:56
Speaker 1: the most and that love the game, they prosper, They
47:59
Speaker 1: have a great career, they have a great life. Some
48:02
Speaker 1: of the most loose players are the best players, and
48:05
Speaker 1: there's just something to be said about how well they
48:08
Speaker 1: hold themselves with that looseness and consistency in such a
48:13
Speaker 1: game of extremes. But yeah, moving forward, we're just going
48:19
Speaker 1: to keep on pushing forward and see what happens. And ultimately,
48:24
Speaker 1: regardless of what happens, I realized that I had an
48:29
Speaker 1: awesome time, you know, and that I was objectively extremely
48:33
Speaker 1: good and I had really good stuff before I left Trent,
48:38
Speaker 1: you know, and you can go look at all my
48:40
Speaker 1: stuff and you'll see that it was really good. And
48:44
Speaker 1: so ultimately, I've just come to the fact that I
48:47
Speaker 1: have closure with my career because I did everything I could.
48:51
Speaker 1: I signed every single baseball that was asked of me
48:55
Speaker 1: until every fan would leave the stadium. I tipped every
48:59
Speaker 1: single klubby, I took care of all my teammates, and ultimately,
49:05
Speaker 1: in a game of extremes, when your career comes to
49:08
Speaker 1: an end, the thing that you're going to care about
49:12
Speaker 1: most and the most important thing was how did you
49:14
Speaker 1: treat your teammates And when you weren't having a good time,
49:19
Speaker 1: were you still the person on your team that made sure?
49:26
Speaker 1: Fuck how do I put this? You had to make
49:30
Speaker 1: sure that even when you weren't having a good time
49:34
Speaker 1: and when everything felt like it sucked, for certain people
49:37
Speaker 1: that you realize were living millions of kids' dreams, okay,
49:43
Speaker 1: and that it's really not that bad, and that if
49:46
Speaker 1: it is that bad, at some point along the way,
49:50
Speaker 1: you lost the part of you that was a kid
49:52
Speaker 1: inside that loved to play the game, and you started
49:55
Speaker 1: to take it a little bit too serious.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, No, That's something that I preach is that
50:05
Speaker 2: the number one, you know, competitive advantage or important thing
50:09
Speaker 2: that you can have as a baseball player is the
50:12
Speaker 2: passion for the game. And once you lose that, it's
50:14
Speaker 2: just a steep, still uphill battle from there on. But
50:19
Speaker 2: if you do have it, then you know, like discipline, work,
50:22
Speaker 2: I think all of that comes easy to you because
50:24
Speaker 2: you just love doing it. And so yeah, that's that's
50:29
Speaker 2: super awesome. Well yeah, I think that was awesome. So
50:33
Speaker 2: many gems in there. I want to wrap it up now.
50:35
Speaker 2: But where can people find you?
50:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, So if you guys want to find me, if
50:42
Speaker 1: you're on Twitter, look up Alberta's the fourth on every
50:46
Speaker 1: social media. I have my full name. That's not on accident.
50:50
Speaker 1: It's so that you can all find me easy. Just
50:53
Speaker 1: look at Alberta's spot Barbera or just look up Albertas
50:56
Speaker 1: Barbara on any social media we'll upload social media content
51:00
Speaker 1: every day. We're going to be constantly putting out free
51:04
Speaker 1: information for you guys, making sure that we're putting the
51:07
Speaker 1: power in the player's hands and really helping turn you
51:10
Speaker 1: guys into your best coach, right because, like I said earlier,
51:14
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, every single coach is
51:16
Speaker 1: guessing to try to help you progress forward. You're the
51:19
Speaker 1: only one who's going to have the real answers to
51:22
Speaker 1: get you to the big leagues. Okay, I have a
51:25
Speaker 1: belief that every coach or I have a belief that
51:29
Speaker 1: every player can make it to the minor leagues. But
51:32
Speaker 1: how far that they make it in the minor leagues
51:35
Speaker 1: is based on how much they control their own career
51:39
Speaker 1: aside from all the life things in politics that can happen. Right,
51:44
Speaker 1: So take control of your career. Hit us up on
51:48
Speaker 1: social media and thank you Josh for the podcast. It
51:51
Speaker 1: is an awesome time man, and yeah, I look forward
51:54
Speaker 1: to next time.
51:56
Speaker 2: Awesome. Thanks so much for coming.
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Speaker 4: On back back back,