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Boys Trip with Ben, Wells, and Dean · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio. It is time for the Almost Famous podcast. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: Ashley is still way. So I have two incredible co
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  Speaker 1: host today, I mean absolutely beautiful specimens of men, Dean
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  Speaker 1: Angler and Wells Adams. Hello, Hi, this is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a fun day. We are currently sitting in UH in
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  Speaker 1: Wells's hometown for the A T and T UH Celebrity
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  Speaker 1: pro Am. So what they would call it the T
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  Speaker 1: and T prom Yeah, yeah, just be called the clam Bake.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us the history. Okay, so a pro am is
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  Speaker 1: when you have professional golfers play with celebrities. Happens a
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  Speaker 1: bunch um, but the biggest one is the one that
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  Speaker 1: happens here at Pebble Beach and um. It originally was
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  Speaker 1: started by Bing Crosby in like the thirties. Bing Crosby
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  Speaker 1: was like a amos old actor and he was a
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  Speaker 1: member at Cyprus UH and would come up here from
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  Speaker 1: Los Angeles and he wanted to do a big golf
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  Speaker 1: tournament with all his famous friends and the professionals, and
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  Speaker 1: so he coined this tournament, Bing Crosby's clam Bake, and
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  Speaker 1: then turned into the biggest like get in Hollywood. If
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  Speaker 1: you got invited to play in Being Crosby's thing, it
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  Speaker 1: was a big deal. And it's who being Crosby. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he's a famous old actor, singer, dancer, heartthrob. He's like you,
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  Speaker 1: um but from like the thirties you can sing okay?
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  Speaker 1: But why And so he was like he was a
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  Speaker 1: big deal, Like why would anyone care to play with
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  Speaker 1: bing Crosby? You know, like why did this then become
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  Speaker 1: the pro am because like, who the heck cares about
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  Speaker 1: playing with one guy? Anyways, you know, he would invite
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  Speaker 1: all his famous friends, so like the who's who of
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood would come into Yes, it's probably similar to you
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  Speaker 1: know last week and I've talked about the podcast lot
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  Speaker 1: but you know, WELLS and I played in Orlando. And
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  Speaker 1: the reason that you would travel so far to go
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  Speaker 1: play in it is because for a couple of reasons. One,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good time too. You want to see how
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  Speaker 1: you compare to your friends. It's kind of like he
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  Speaker 1: gets some competition going. And then the party is a
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  Speaker 1: big deal, like this is supposed to be a big
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  Speaker 1: So was there actually is there a clam bake? Is
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  Speaker 1: that a thing? No, that's a big joke because that
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  Speaker 1: he never actually had a dinner where they baked clams.
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  Speaker 1: But so the original one was pebble beach, uh and
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  Speaker 1: Cypress and spy Glass. Cyprus is like a famous private
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  Speaker 1: golf course. They no longer use Cyprus in the A
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  Speaker 1: T and T pro am. They now use the NPCC,
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  Speaker 1: which is where we are right now. Um. Anyways, it
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  Speaker 1: was such a big deal that Hollywood, Hollywood elits all
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  Speaker 1: want to be in this tournament, that they would do
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  Speaker 1: crazy things. They'd find out where being Crosby's house was.
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  Speaker 1: He was a great golfer. Yeah, he won. Um, he
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  Speaker 1: won the club championship at lake Side. He was a
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  Speaker 1: member over lake Side up in Los Angeles. Um, he's
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  Speaker 1: like scratch golfer. People would get sky riders and right
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  Speaker 1: over his house. I want to be invited to the
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  Speaker 1: claim that it was a huge, huge things funny, so
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  Speaker 1: much so that a month before of the tournament he
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  Speaker 1: would go down to Mexico and not tell anyone his
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  Speaker 1: address because you don't want to be bothered because everyone
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  Speaker 1: was trying to get in the tournament. So in the thirties, though,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how would they like, That's a long drive
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  Speaker 1: for a car in the nineteen thirties from l A
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  Speaker 1: to I was still like a six hour drive. Did
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  Speaker 1: they have highways in the thirties, yeah? Was there Like
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  Speaker 1: was there traffic laws in the thirties. Yeah, But we're
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  Speaker 1: not like crazy here. Like the first car was like
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  Speaker 1: what nineteen o seven, like the first production car, the
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  Speaker 1: Model T. I would say, yeah, lady, like we're still
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  Speaker 1: early on here. Man, that's a long trip. That's a
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  Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah. But anyways, it was listening and he
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  Speaker 1: did for years like he did the Claimmate for a
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  Speaker 1: long time. Ya and then now it's the A T
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  Speaker 1: and T. It got corporate and everything. And but like
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Costers here, Andy Garcia is here, uh kind of
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  Speaker 1: thes Rice Daris, Rutger, Bill Murray, Jim Canals. We're talking
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  Speaker 1: celebrities still a big thing. It's hard hard to get into.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up here and I used to work as
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  Speaker 1: a child, and I would love to play it one day.
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  Speaker 1: And that celebrity I gotta television ship. If you're the
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  Speaker 1: Cassie director for the celebrities, if you're in, you're listening well,
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  Speaker 1: as Adams would love to join. His name is Steve
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  Speaker 1: John's Steve if you're listening, I would love to play it,
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  Speaker 1: so would have been. Yeah, come on, if Steve's really listening,
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  Speaker 1: I want to ring as well. So we've been over
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  Speaker 1: to play some golf this week. We've been on to
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  Speaker 1: hang out together at a great dinner. Last night, Um,
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  Speaker 1: Amy Sugarman's brother took us to his golf course to preserve.
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  Speaker 1: Today we played the golf course that wells Adams worked
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  Speaker 1: at growing up as a child, Carmelo Valley Ranch was
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  Speaker 1: a range boy and a bag boy there. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: I probably played that golf of course ten thousand times.
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  Speaker 1: And Ben beat me today. I got lucky but shot
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  Speaker 1: seventy six. Man, that's pretty good listen for berties. I
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  Speaker 1: can't be upset losing to a guy who shot six
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  Speaker 1: over no no no, or five over five over six
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  Speaker 1: sounds better. You know what was interesting about the today too?
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  Speaker 1: We played with two of your high school buddies. Um.
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  Speaker 1: One of them name is Alex, and Alex told me
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  Speaker 1: something on the range that he was a part of
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  Speaker 1: the very first radio show you ever did. Is that true?
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  Speaker 1: Did I get that right? So he went to a
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  Speaker 1: high school called Robert Loui Stevenson, which is in Pebble
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  Speaker 1: Beach and it's a very nice school and they had
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  Speaker 1: a radio program there And I didn't go to high school,
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  Speaker 1: but I was friends with Alex and uh he was
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  Speaker 1: doing a show and I asked if I could be
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  Speaker 1: come do it. And my my first like radio entertainment
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  Speaker 1: indstreet con was convincing a school that I didn't go
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  Speaker 1: to to allow me to have my own radio show
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  Speaker 1: U at their school. And that's how I that's how
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  Speaker 1: I started in radio, and that's why I went to
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  Speaker 1: school for use. I was like, this is awesome. So
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  Speaker 1: I end up going to college for broadcast journalism and
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  Speaker 1: doing radio and college. And that's how it started, was
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  Speaker 1: because Alex Brandt had a show. Yeah, we got to
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  Speaker 1: play with in the day. Yeah, speaking of shows, Dean,
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  Speaker 1: your show, is Jared's still co hosting right now? Or
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  Speaker 1: is he taking time off? Yeah? If you're still listening
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  Speaker 1: to this episode of Almost Famous, still ahead and cut
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  Speaker 1: it short and flip it over to help I suck
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  Speaker 1: at dating, because I'll tell you what it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: worth your time. Uh. Yeah, Jared just had a baby
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. That's great. Uh, he's still
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  Speaker 1: co hosting with us Kaylin actually co hosted the last
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  Speaker 1: episode of US, and we were a couple of drinks deep,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure she kept like nudging me. She was
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  Speaker 1: like shut up, like stop, stop, stop. Every time she
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  Speaker 1: said to stop, I was like, I'm just gonna go
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  Speaker 1: even more into what I'm doing right now. Why just
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  Speaker 1: because I was being ridiculous as I always am. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I check it out. Help I start at dating.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Ben, appreciate the plug. Are you enjoyed doing it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's probably the highlight of my
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  Speaker 1: week every single week when I log into my zoom
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  Speaker 1: call and get to see Danielle and Amy. Well they
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  Speaker 1: used to be there, not there so much anymore. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't even get the premise anymore. You're basically married
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  Speaker 1: and Jared's married with a kid, so no one sucks
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  Speaker 1: at dating anymore. Oh well, if you listen to the
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  Speaker 1: last episode, I'll tell you what. There's very clear there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of moments where Kitlin was like she was
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  Speaker 1: like writing things out on the notepad. She was like,
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  Speaker 1: stop talking about this, and I was like, Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so sorry, but I'm not gonna just I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a it's you know, it's a good show.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really want to. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what else to say about it. I mean, so
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  Speaker 1: like sell us, like, why should we if we if
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  Speaker 1: you guys don't suck it dating, why should we listen
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  Speaker 1: to Yeah, well, you know, just because you're in a
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  Speaker 1: relationship or you have a baby doesn't mean you don't
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  Speaker 1: suck at dating. I'm sure we all can attest to that. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure there are things where Jess or Sarah wants
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  Speaker 1: more or better from you in like in certain arenas,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, I think that the
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  Speaker 1: idea of once you're taken you can just get lazy
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  Speaker 1: is uh, you know, that's kind of everyone's ultimate downfall.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what we do. We talk about how important
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  Speaker 1: it is to keep the romance alive, how to always
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  Speaker 1: put your partner first. Um, and even though we struggle
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  Speaker 1: with it most of the time, we we always you know,
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  Speaker 1: try to circle back to the life lesson that we're
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  Speaker 1: all trying to teach that uh, you know, we're living
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  Speaker 1: for for our significant other. For a long times, I
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  Speaker 1: had home, I mean you you brought up a good
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  Speaker 1: point because I head home tomorrow, um back to Denver.
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  Speaker 1: I've been gone for eight days at this point. We
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  Speaker 1: had a puppy. We got a puppy two days before
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  Speaker 1: I left, and so then I've been gone for eight days,
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  Speaker 1: leaving Jessica at home with this puppy, and I'm starting
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  Speaker 1: to feel really bad about it. She's never made me
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  Speaker 1: feel bad about it, but i just feel like I'm failing,
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  Speaker 1: falling very short as it has been. Well, I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you what your first mistake is only to start feeling
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  Speaker 1: bad now because you should have started feeling bad eight
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  Speaker 1: days ago. Well why because that why was your new
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  Speaker 1: wife and you just got an eight week old puppy
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  Speaker 1: and you take off for two weeks to go golf
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  Speaker 1: with your friends. This was not I don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I would do the exact same thing, and I
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  Speaker 1: commend you for doing it. But I'm just saying, is like,
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  Speaker 1: for the fact that jess hasn't laid into you more
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  Speaker 1: about it, it it is very impressive on her part. She's
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  Speaker 1: an incredible wife, you know. But part of getting this
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  Speaker 1: dog was also knowing these strips and play him. So
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  Speaker 1: this was all pre discussed. But at this point it's
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  Speaker 1: time I need to get back home. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what to like as well as alluded
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  Speaker 1: to earlier to shoot a seventy six on your last
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  Speaker 1: round of golf on this trip, that you do very
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  Speaker 1: what way to close out strong? You know on the
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  Speaker 1: back nine and it have one par yeah, seven and two. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty great. Um, it was. It's pretty intense day. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it has been fun hanging out with you guys. I
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  Speaker 1: think today what we need to do, um, because life
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  Speaker 1: has moved on for all of us. Wells came up
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  Speaker 1: with this idea, but I think we need to share
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  Speaker 1: our stories on how you actually got onto the show. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Wells and Dean have gone on to do great things
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  Speaker 1: post show. So successful post show you I'm killing it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start with Dean. I feel like Amy
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  Speaker 1: has something to do with Dean's venture into the best.
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  Speaker 1: Well you have a side stor I'm going to share
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  Speaker 1: about Dean and Amy once he shares his story. So,
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  Speaker 1: but here's the deal that my story is. I already
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  Speaker 1: know how my story starts and end, so I'd rather
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  Speaker 1: hear like Wells or you go first. Yeah, of course
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  Speaker 1: you know that. Yeah, but I'd like to see Dean's
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  Speaker 1: version of the story and then I'll tell you all
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  Speaker 1: the truth. Yeah. That's a good that's always fun with Dean. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Paton started out, I'll share my story. Everyone, take a seat,
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  Speaker 1: settle settle in, get your drink ready. Wells has a
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  Speaker 1: friend here that I wouldn't let in the house until
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  Speaker 1: he tested negative for COVID. He's negative. So can you
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  Speaker 1: text your friends? Ye? Nice? Jim's welcome back. All right.
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  Speaker 1: My story goes back to when I was just a
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  Speaker 1: wee little boy, right bold age is six years old. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: And I was playing basketball out in my front yard
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  Speaker 1: and I looked at my dad and I said, Dad,
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  Speaker 1: one day I want to go and bachelor. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I had just broken up with my girlfriends, maybe like
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  Speaker 1: four or five months prior, and I hated my job.
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  Speaker 1: I was a tech recruiter and it was miserable. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm an adventure seeker at heart. And so my buddy
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  Speaker 1: called me and he goes, hey, Dean, I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 1: something for you and I just want you to follow
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  Speaker 1: through with it, no matter what it is. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Mike, Okay, dude, I love you. No matter
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  Speaker 1: what it is, tell me what I gotta do. And
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  Speaker 1: he goes, uh, my friend's girlfriend works for this woman
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  Speaker 1: named Amy Sugarman, and she's best friends with a Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: executive producer. And I was like okay, um, and he goes,
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  Speaker 1: all right, she's gonna call you. And she calls me.
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  Speaker 1: And you know when you just meet somebody and you
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  Speaker 1: like don't fully realize how crazy they are, and like
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  Speaker 1: you're like you're still new to getting to know them,
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  Speaker 1: and so you like are fully present and you're like
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  Speaker 1: super you know, into the conversation. And Amy and I
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  Speaker 1: talked on the phone for maybe like an hour and
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  Speaker 1: maybe not that long. It was a long time. We
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  Speaker 1: had a long conversation. I would say like thirty or
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  Speaker 1: forty five minutes, which is long for me because I
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  Speaker 1: hate phone calls. And then Amy was like, well, you're great.
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  Speaker 1: I love you so much. I'm gonna pass you on
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  Speaker 1: to my friend Bennett, who is one of the executive producers.
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  Speaker 1: And then I guess Bennett pased my nap. Yeah, well
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  Speaker 1: there was three ps. It was a long It was
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  Speaker 1: Bennett and it was Nicole no notics what that is?
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  Speaker 1: And and you talked to one of the three piece. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, honestly, I'm sure Amy probably gets a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people being like, hey, like Nona my friend
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  Speaker 1: for the show. So Amy took the time out of
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  Speaker 1: her day to like go through the right avenues to
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  Speaker 1: get it done, which I mean, goodis to Amy for
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  Speaker 1: doing that. But I'm sure you probably get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people like asking you about that all the time. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And then Bennett obviously didn't call me. Megan fire Soon,
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  Speaker 1: who is now probably be an executive producer on the show,
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  Speaker 1: called me. She's up there. She's yeah, she will be
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  Speaker 1: at some point if she sticks with it. She's too
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  Speaker 1: good at a cast producer to executive. Do you want
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  Speaker 1: to hear an interesting tidbit though? Ye? Okay, so so
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  Speaker 1: far the story is totally accurate, completely true. Hannah Winkleman
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  Speaker 1: called me about you. I called you Hannah Winkleman. She
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  Speaker 1: was and he's not a real person. Is totally a
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  Speaker 1: real person, and she's an awesome person. So when did
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  Speaker 1: you come over? So first I talked on the phone.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I gotta I gotta remember now. So
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  Speaker 1: first I talked on the phone with you. Then I
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  Speaker 1: hung up with you, and I called Bennett and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, Bennett, you gotta meet this super ca Yeah, pictures.
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  Speaker 1: Hannah sent me a bunch of pictures, including a shirtless picture,
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  Speaker 1: which I didn't even I didn't even request. So I
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  Speaker 1: called Bennett, and Bennet's like, look, I don't do the
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  Speaker 1: casting and I don't really like to like mess with
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing. I can't do it. So then I
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  Speaker 1: called you back and we talked for another hour. We
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  Speaker 1: talked you're talking about Then I called Bennett back and
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  Speaker 1: I go, trust me, trust me, call this guy. Have
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  Speaker 1: your guys called this guy? Will I am not? It
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  Speaker 1: is a real loss if you guys do not call
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  Speaker 1: this guy. And then they called you because it didn't
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  Speaker 1: take me. I had to do some problems. You really
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  Speaker 1: had to work for it. That's great. Well, hey, thanks
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  Speaker 1: for making thanks for working for it, Thanks for changing
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  Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, thank you for for everything you've done
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  Speaker 1: for me. It's funny. The shirtlesstally right, Yeah right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. I know, and I don't tell
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  Speaker 1: everybody that I know that works on that show. I brought.
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  Speaker 1: I am the person, and it gives you kind of
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  Speaker 1: power over them later on too, because you're like I
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  Speaker 1: was right before. I'm probably gonna be right again later
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  Speaker 1: on the shirtless picture. The thing is pretty funny too,
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  Speaker 1: because maybe like two weeks prior, like not even that
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  Speaker 1: much earlier, one of my best friends who has been
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  Speaker 1: in the industry, he like works out an agency. Now
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  Speaker 1: he works for Amazon. He's doing really well. But back
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  Speaker 1: then he was like, Dean, you should like be a
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  Speaker 1: male model, like you should go model. And I was like, Tommy, dude,
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  Speaker 1: i am not like up to that caliber of looking
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  Speaker 1: like I'm not a male model. Like It's just as
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  Speaker 1: simple as that. And you guys don't disagree with that. No.
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  Speaker 1: One of my buddy says you're the best looking man
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  Speaker 1: he's ever seen. It just blows my mind. Actively make
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  Speaker 1: yourself less attractive. You grow like terrible mustaches, you don't shower,
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  Speaker 1: like a weird sideburn thing, going yeah, like six long hairs, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what else do you guys hate about? And you're still
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  Speaker 1: better looking at that? Yeah? Okay, Well anyways, back to
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  Speaker 1: my story, I mean, you're you're Brad Pitt. Yeah okay,
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  Speaker 1: well I appreciate that anyway. So he's like, dude, you
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  Speaker 1: have to try to be a model, and I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Tommy like, whatever do Let's try it. And so he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I set up a meeting with this the head of
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  Speaker 1: modeling for Wilhelmina, and I was like looking through the
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  Speaker 1: Wilhelmina website and they're they're like the most insanely beautiful
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  Speaker 1: man I've ever seen in my entire life. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, whatever, I'll go to dinner with this guy anyways.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: And so we go to dinner and he like tells
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: me this whole life story and it was the weirdest
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: dinner of all time. Super nice guy, but like he
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: was like unloading a lot of emotional baggage on to me. Uh.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: And then he was like, you're you're great. We love
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: your look. I could see you doing all these things.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I need you to get some photos. And so I
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: was like, well, I'd have no money, so what do
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I do? And he's like, just go to like a
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Nordstrom and like try a bunch of stuff on in
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: the changing room and take pictures of yourself. And so
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I like brought my one of my best friends, Josh
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: into the changing room with me in Nordstrom, took like
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: a bunch of photos and like a suit blazer and
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: like shirtless yeah called shot. Yeah, there's like six years
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: ago too. And it's so funny because in all the
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: photos you can see the tags on the shirts and
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and so that's why Amy has eventually
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: sent one of those photos. And then anyways, then Bennett
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: tells Megan to get in touch with me, and Megan
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: calls me, and Megan and I talked for like three
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: hours on the phone. She can definitely talk. And it
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: was the same thing with Amy, you know, like you yeah,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just like one of those things
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: where you just unload everything and like you just get
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: you just talk for hours and then so eventually she
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: was like you're great. You're great. And this was like
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: maybe a week before we left for filming. This is
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: like February three, and we left her film in February.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Attention you guys film them February. We were early February.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: I think you were very like a last minute. I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: was the last edition. And I remember too, because I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: did like two in person interviews at m ZK or
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: whatever the studio was in. Uh, did you not go
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: to the hotel and do all those things? Screw you? Yeah?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I did. That didn't you know I did that. Yeah,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't do any of that. She was like, coming
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to the studio tomorrow, will sign some paperwork that's so
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: good looking, Dens. I have to go through like three
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: days of being locked in a hotel room and interviews.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: They just look at Dean twice and say, you know what,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: just come to the house, just get the show up
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: on the day. No. And it was funny too because
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I was never really a fan of the show. I
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: knew this format and how the system works and stuff.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: But I remember when I was in the production uh,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and I met like Louis and Todd and like all
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: of the cast, producers and all that stuff. Like there
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: was like there was like twenty of them and it
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: was me. And the next day they're like, yeah, we
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: want you to come. But in that interview or like
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: the meeting or whatever, they were like, so like, tell
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: us about yourself, and I was like, well, I know
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: the show we're works, Like if you guys end up
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: coming to meet my family at hometowns, it's gonna be
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the weirdest episode you guys will ever have. And fully
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: expecting like never to even make it that far, you
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: know what, I mean, and they were like, oh, tell
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: us more wine. I explained why as we all saw
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: play out on TV if you guys watched that episode
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: or not. Uh, And it was just like I feel
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: like they were like already like interested because Amy pitched
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: me really well. And then I was like, my family
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: is really weird and they were like, wow, this guy's
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the whole back perfect yeah. And then so I like
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and then I left like a week later, and I
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: packed to be gone. I packed a tiny little uffel bag.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Is one of my favorite parts. I want to pretty
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: listen to this because you've told me this before. Well,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I hope I'm gonna tell the story that I told you.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I packed a little tiny duffel bag. I was expecting
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: to be gone for four days. I brought maybe like
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: three T shirts, a pair of jeans, and one suit,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: and and I like, I like called one of my
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: best girlfriends at the time. I was like Natalie, like
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I watched the show and these guys are all wearing
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: like nice blazers and peak coats and like these cool
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: bombers and like expensive jeans, and I don't know in
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: any of those things. And she goes, oh, yeah, but
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: like maybe just go buy a couple of things, and like,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you know, it's your style, so you're gonna make it work.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: And I it's funny like looking back on it now
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: because I still don't dress like that. But it was
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: just like I had no idea how to prepare and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do. And then sure enough
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I was on the show for two and a half months,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and so the two days that I was on it.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: But and so, did you ever get more close? Now?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I've got a couple more no, no, when you're on
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the show. Yeah. So my friend Mike, who I alluded
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to earlier, I wore the same suit every road ceremony
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and then the final one I got to see him
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: like during my hometown or something, and he brought me
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: an extra suit. So the suit that I was wearing
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: when I got dumped after hometowns was his suit that
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: he let me borrow. It's an unlucky suit, but I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: looked very good in it. It was a little small
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: on me, but I just feel like I felt I
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: felt hot in it, you know what I mean. And
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the other suits were The other suit was nice because
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: it was like a dark blue and I had like
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a couple of ties, so I could like change the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: lookup of it enough. And I like had friends on
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: the show that would like let me borrow their clothes.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think there's something to be said
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: about that specifically, is a lot of people go into
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: it with the super high expectations and they think they're
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be a knockout hit and everyone's gonna love them,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and and just like a little bit of humility goes
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a long way, you know, like just have like a
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: little bit of humility and be like I might get
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: kicked off in on day one or day five. People
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: don't really go into it thinking that anymore. You know,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: they're thinking they want to be like an overnight celebrity.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: And that's my big issue with it now. So that's
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: my genesis story as to how I got on The
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Bachelor at Now, I want to hear one of your guys,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: is your sure is interesting? Well, I'm sure they're all interesting. No,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I really had. I had always heard that Amy got
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: you on the show. That's how I had heard the story,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And now hearing all of that, it was you really
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: did you skipped a lot of steps. I talked to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Ammy on February three, and I was in a car
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: up to the mansion on February like twelve. Oh, so
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I was talking to them in November. Yeah, that's what
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I've heard. That seems that's even early too, I think
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: for a lot of the guys. Yeah, I got my
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: first phone call six months before filming started. In between
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: that time, I had blown out my knee and had
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: surgery before, Like from the first phone call to when
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I went on the ship, just blow you know how
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: how many? Yeah, I'm blown out three times? Really stop
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: being athletics? Well, I don't think. I think that means
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the opposite. When your knees are dislocated from your body,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: you're anti athletic. Uh, it is. Your story is interesting.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I still remember Amy and I went out to lunch
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: one day in Brentwood and we're in a car and
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: she got a phone call from you, and I was like,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: who is that? And she said, this is this guy
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: that just got off the show and he's he's going
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: to be a star. He's gonna be a huge deal.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I like him a lot. I was very very short
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: amount of time. Yes, that's all I care about. And uh,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and then I started paying attention to you, and and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: then we got to meet later on and obviously become friends. Uh,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: and I have enjoyed a ton of members with you,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: but I still remember that very first time. She was like,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be a stuff. Yeah, well it's funny too,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Like a sidebar from that, I've told this story to you,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and I probably told on a podcast once or twice
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: as well. But there was a time when after filming
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: was over, before this season had aired, and right before
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I went to Bachelor in Paradise, which was like a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: maybe a four week gap, I was in Colorado visiting
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: my friend and we went to this wine store in
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the Lower Highlands and they saw you, and I guess
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I saw you too, but I didn't know who you were.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: You're just some good looking guy. I didn't know you
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: were super famous. And we left the store and both
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: my two friends they were like, do you know who
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that was? Do you know who that was? And I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: go no, and they go that was Ben Higgins, he
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: was the Bachelor. And I was like, you guys should
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: have told me in the store. I was just on
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the show. I would have introduced myself to it. Yeah. Yeah.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: And we ran into each other a couple of random
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: times in Denver A couple of times you didn't say
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: hi to me. Yeah, we're getting when you're evil evil
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: outside and he just ignored me outside. You guys, you
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: guys have to understand exactly have to understand here. You.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it was about your look that day,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: but you look like you were like a monster energy
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: hat and just like got and I was like that
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: guy rides dirt bikes or like he just drove his
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: monster truck to the breakfast place, like I was on
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the walk. I had a basketball, drews yonde to the pool,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and I had I had like a big old like
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you can go to the bathroom look at yourself in
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: the mirror and you'd be like, who the hell is
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I think I had white sox with like sandals. You
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: looked good, but he looked so he was so like
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: hurt by the fact that of my look, even though
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: he knew me that, he goes I'm not going to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: even talk to him. I'll give him the Hey, what's
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: going on? Oh that was funny? Yeah, that was funny.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: This is a guy who's currently in a mustache. Yeah, gotee. Yeah,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: well I'll tell you Ben, Like literally, look you looked like, Uh,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Mike Metzker, do you know who that is? He used
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to be like a professional dirt bike rider and so like,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: but like thirty years older, you look like him, and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I just I'm so sorry to recognize you. I promise
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I would have said hi, had I know you. I'm
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: sick of talking about myself. I'm getting uncomfortable now. I
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: want to hear your guys, the stories off met Yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: people have heard mine, so I'll make mine short too.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: So I think I've told this story a bunch of times,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: but I'm happy to do it again because it was
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: my idea. So, uh, I was a radio host before
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the show, and I used to do a bit where
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I would go on auditions for commercials in Nashville and
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I would intentionally be bad at them. The whole bit
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: was is that I would have my co host, which
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: was always an intern, and we'd run lines on air
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: for the commercial. And so it was like a China
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: paper plant commercial, or it was like a mea Mixed
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: commercial or so something, and we would go over the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: lines and I'm like, all right, the line is Mia mixed,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Mia mix, we deliver and whatever, and then I'd be
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: like very serious about it. And then this is before
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook really and uh, snapchat and TikTok, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I would make YouTube videos of me going to these
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: auditions and I would intentionally be bad at them because
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I wasn't really trying to get the gig. I was
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: trying to get the bit, so I would be bad
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: at them and uh, and the next day had come
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: back and I would be inconsolable because they didn't get
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the meal mixed commercials okay, but it was a good bit.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: It was a funny bit something that I would get
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: it though. Actually I got the China paper plate commercial
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: even trying to be bad. You got it. Yeah, And
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: so so then do you carry the bit on into
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the actual commercial itself or do you like then starting
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: One of them was for like the Tennessee Lottery, and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it was the whole concept was is that you're you're
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: like bouncing a basketball and you're looking around and thousands
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: of fans are are screaming your name, and then you
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: run to go do a layup. And I think how
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: it was written was like someone from the Grizzlies comes
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: and swatch it away or something like that. And the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: whole thing was you miss the shots. You don't take
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: play lottery, you could win a million dollars something like that.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: So I went to this audition straight up like Will Ferrell, uh,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: like headband, sucks up to my knees, short shorts, like
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: old converses, and I was like nineteen sixties me and
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I was like doing the whole thing and they didn't
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: hire me, which is fine. And then if you go
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: find you can go find this commercial. They stole the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: look that I did. The entire thing was just like
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixties like a guy. Yeah. Anyways, So I used
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: to do this a lot because it was it was
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a good bit, and like, I was very happy with
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: my career and I thought it was fun and funny.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: And my brother Brett, of whom yes, and he's trying
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to marry him. He's married. I'm not trying, but I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: do love brother is like he's the best. He's the best.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: And he also was like the good looking one in
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: our family. No, Brett was Brett was a model and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: that because he's old now and now he's older, but
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: he's still a very handsome anyway. So he lives in
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Brentwood in Los Angeles, and he got approached by a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: casting director and the cashing director came up to him.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Brett is also a guy that like his friends with everybody.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, you guys know you guys know him, but
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: like for everyone out there, my brother is a guy
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that knows everybody and everyone loves There's never been a
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: bad word said about my brother, and he's a person
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that never loses a friend. So this was two thousand
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: maybe seven, two thousand eight. He was at Queues in Brentwood. Yes,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: he loves like he and also, by the way, he's
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the mayor of Cues. I've first of all cues. Yes,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: it's a goddamn black hole. If I go in there,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I get absolutely tanked because what I don't pay for anything,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and the bartenders way double poor me because breast the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: mayor cues. So he's in Queues watching his Kansas basketball
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, and a cassenger comes out and he's like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know who the hell you are, but you
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: are the most garious person I've ever met. Everyone loves you.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Everyone's talking to you. Who the hell are you? And
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: are you single? And he was like, Miames, Brett, I
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: am not single. I just started dating a girl. But
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: like we just already doing like last week or whatnot?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Who are you? And they started casting him for the show.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: They offered him to go on the show. He went
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: through everything and at the you know, it takes months
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: to get through this for most not for not for Dean,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: but for most people, it takes a long time. And
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: so for my brother. By the time they were like, okay,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go start filming in March, he was like,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I'm now very serious with this woman who now is
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: his wife and they're having a child together. It's baul ranging. Yes, sucks,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: but back to the back to the part of my
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: my brother. Everyone loves my brother and my brother has
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: never lost a friend. Seven years go by. Okay, I
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: get dumped by the girl I'm dating in Nashville. I'm
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: doing this like weird morning show on this strange radio station,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like I'm in a weird spot. Uh,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: And my brother goes, hey, man, do you want to
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: go audition for the Batchelor. I'm still friends with his
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: casting director, And to me, I'm like, why the fund
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: are you still friends with this person? Like that was
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: seven years ago and you're married, Like this is so weird.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And he's like, hey, man, listen, I don't lose friends.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Like you never know what's gonna happen. He's like, I'll
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: send an email. So he sends an email to Melissa Chapions,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: who is a big casting director for the show, and says, hey,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: this is my brother would like to go on the show.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So this is like, great, we'll be in Nashville in November.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: We'll set it up. Now. Remember I used to do
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: this bit where I would go on auditions and I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: would try to kind of ruin it. Okay, So I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: am in my mind with my the producers of the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: radio show. I'm like, I'm gonna go do this batchelor thing.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bomb it and it would be really, really funny.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: So they called me up and they say, hey, listen,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: we needs you at this hotel at this certain time.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I have a afternoon drive show.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: At the time, I was doing three different radio shows
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: for different three different formats, and I was like, I
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: need to I have a hard out, which is like
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the douciest thing to tell somebody that you have unless
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you're Tom Cruise. But I was like, I got a
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: heart out. So I need to leave early. And they're like, okay, fine,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: you'll be the first person in. So I had done
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: my morning show. I go to my audition for the Bachelor,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm wearing like my normal clothes. I remember I
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: was wearing all jean. I was wearing a jean jacket,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: jean jeans at T shirt with like a bunch of
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: buttons or whatever. And I remember walking into this hotel
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: in downtown Nashville and everyone was wearing suits because like
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: that's what you wear when you get out of the limit.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: And I remember looking around being like, well, MS is
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: off to a blood So I have to go first
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: because I have a heart out like a doucher. So
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I go first, and I was like listen, I got
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or whatever, and I sit there and then
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: they put a little camera. Bend did this. Dean didn't
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: do this because he lives in fantasy casting world. But
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: they have a little camera in there and they basically
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: interview you for a couple of minutes. And I had
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, and I remember forty five minutes went by
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and they're like, so you're a radio DJ, like do
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: your bit. So I had I had done my morning
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: show that day, so I did every bit I had
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: done that day, and it was right after I don't
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: know if anyone remembers this, but Justin Bieber had peed
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: into a bucket at a restaurant some for some reason,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and he had like gone into the restaurant kitchen and
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: pete and do a bucket. Do you remember this? And
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: so the whole bit was like that buckets seen some ship.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: But like, god damn it, that's a good day, you know.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: It was just like you know, you could tell your kids,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: like Justin Bieber beat on it was a good day.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Like that was the bit. So I was like doing
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: this like weird, just beaber bit for these people. And
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I remember, like forty five minutes in, I was like,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: they think I'm funny. I was trying to bomb this
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: entire thing because I just wanted the bit from my
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: radio show. And I remember they go, um, so this
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: was in November. They go, what are you doing in March?
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: And I said, ladies, I don't know what I'm doing tomorrow,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: let alone doing March. So I don't know what you're saying.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: They're like, well, we need you for March and April.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be a thing, and so I knew
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that day that I was probably gonna get booked the show.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: And then there's like the whole story of like flying
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: out to l A at the Sheridan in Los Angeles,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: where they like poke and pride you when they do
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: weird stuff, and which Deem didn't have to do, which
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: annoys me because they did like a whole background check
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: on men, Like so they did a whole background check
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: on me. I remember there was a private eye. They
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: were like ticket, and I'm like, now I'm hearing this.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Dean has never paid a ticket, Like they
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: didn't give a about any Okay, for the record, I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: did have to go to the private eye. I went
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: to the private eyed house and yeah, she lived in
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Long Beach or something, and I went there. She ran
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: my social and I did have I mean, I've got
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of misdemeanors on my record, like invading arrest
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: and underage drinking and like all these ridiculous things I
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: got before I was twenty years old, so I had
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to experience all the things. I just went at a
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: different pace than everyone else. Yeah, but so what do
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: you do to not be of misdemeanors that like, yeah,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: that works, well, there are no more I think as
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: long as you have no felonies. That's really what it was.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: And the thing I think, I was really worried that
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I had an active warrant out for my arrest. And
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: another thing too was I still have an active warn
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: The other thing, actually, I don't want me to steal
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: your story time, but this is all coming back to
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: me in a rush. So I remember. One of the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: things was I needed to have an updated driver's license
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: because my driver's license was from Colorado and expired and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I was living in Los Angeles, and I went to
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the d m v U to get a California driver's
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: license and they were like, you have like four speeding tickets,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you never paid five parking tickets. So I had to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: literally pay the DNB like eleven which was basically like
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: my monthly salary at the time to even get a
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: California license, just in order to go on the show.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: And like, sure enough, obviously fiscally it returned itself to me,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: but there was there was a lot of fear in
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: my head where I was like, I'm doing to go
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: on a television show and like it could be the
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: worst decision of mys my entire life. Yeah, so I'm sorry,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: but I did have to go to the Private Eye
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: for the RecA. Need to take STD tests and all
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: that stuff. Oh yeah, absolutely, you have to take the
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: crazy person test and and all you know, and and
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: funny enough, the only past that I the only test
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that I passed was the STD test. You didn't you
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: didn't pass the every ly test. I failed. Oh, I
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: mean sure, I guess the mental test, but like I had,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: you know, the background checks and all the other stuff. Interesting. Yeah,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: So that that was basically my story. And then it
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: was I had to wait for six months and or
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: whatever it was. What is that like, because like so okay,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: so you like go through it, and then like we
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: wanted on the show, and then I didn't know. Megan
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Firestone was also the person that was talking to me
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: every week or whatever, and I think she was making
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: sure that, like I was being a good boy. But
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: what I did that I think a lot of people
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: don't do. And if this is like a cautionary tale
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: for people that want to go on the show, what
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I did was I called every X that I had,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: which was only a couple, and I said, I'm going
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: on this show, I'm gonna have to talk about like
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: my past and if you don't think that, if you
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: don't want me to do this, and I won't do
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: this because I I respect for like for you and
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: how this just make you feel and everything and and
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: testament to all my exes, they're all like, you're a
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: an idiot and you have my blessing go on this show.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: And so then I didn't feel bad because I was like,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest about, you know, whatever happened with
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: all my exes. And I just didn't want like an
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: ex coming on the show being like you did another thing,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you did this, you know. So I just and every
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: time I watched the show, there's always like never done
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: on this past season, but there's always like an angry
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: X like comes, you know, and I didn't want that.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: That's smart. I think it's a great cautionary tale too,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: as if you're going to go on the show, kind
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: of cover your own cover your own basis. I guess
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I my ex, my most recent ext that I had
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: just broken up with, I cheated on her and I
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: was I still am very ashamed and upset with myself
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: for doing that. But at the time, I like was
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I was in a place where I was like kind
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: of denying it to like to myself, to everyone else,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people, like the news outlets, were
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: reaching out to her and they were like, hey, do
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: you want to make a comment on your ex boyfriend
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: being on television show? And she's a saying she's like
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: one of the next people in the entire world. So
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: she always refused to comment. But I could imagine a
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: situation where like maybe my ex girlfriend wasn't as kind
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: as that one, and they would like they would love
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to like dry drag your name through the mud. So yeah,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: it's a good cautionary tail for sure. Did you mean
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: if this is a bit wells for you not to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: get the gigs and then like every once in a
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: while you get the gig, and you got the Bachelorette gig,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: why did you say yes? Like you weren't expecting to
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: go in and get it, and but then all of
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: a sudden you're like, oh, well, maybe now I'll do it. Well,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: kind of going back to what Dean was saying about,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: like there's something about like I'm not only gonna last
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: four days, I'm gonna pack for four days of whatever.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I kind of went into all those things like I'm
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: not really trying to do this, but if I do,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: great every day is a blessing type of thing. Uh.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: For me. Once they said that we want you to
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: be on the show, then I was like great. And
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: at the time, I had been in some long relationship
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: that hadn't worked. And the way that I rationalized the
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: whole thing was, well, normal dating hasn't worked for me.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I'm still alone. At the time, I was thirty three.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: That was kind of I was older than a lot
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: of people. I was like, maybe this is how it happens.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Like then I became open to it, uh, And so
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: that so I was able to sell myself on it.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: When you were on the show, did you still think
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you was part of your bed, like while you were
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: like in the mansion filming, where you still like, this
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: is gonna be great for my radio show. No. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: remember being nervous that everyone was thinking I was going
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: to think that I was using this to like get
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: cloud in radio, which I don't think I really was.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I think in my mind I was this will always
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: be a funny antidote I'd be able to tell at
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: dinner parties and maybe sometimes on the radio, but for
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: the most part, like, I didn't think that was gonna
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: make me the next Ryan Seacrest, you know. Ah, but
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I was nervous that people were going to think I
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: was doing that. But I also realized pretty early on
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: that Joe I didn't like me, and then it was
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: let's just see how long we can hold onto this thing.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Why didn't she like you? I think because I was
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: kind of her buddy, if you like. I don't think
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: she was attracted to me sexually. I think she was
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: attracted to me, like I think I had a good personality,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: still do I'm pretty great. I think she thought it
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: was funny. So she was like, I think we'll keep
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: him around because he's like good, he's like good vibes.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: But I'm never gonna I'm never gonna this kid. This
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: is not my man. Yeah, And I think I knew that,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: And I think I was like, great, where are we
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: going next? We go into Argentina? Because you never kissed
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: her right at the end. Okay, we never saw it
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: on TV. Okay did you break up with you right
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: after kissing? Yes? Yes, so you guys made out and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: then she said, hey, this isn't gonna work. Yes, do
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: you think she knew that she was going to say
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: that before she kissed he? And she just wanted to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: like like send you on your way with maybe a smile.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I guess it was at the end, like you know,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: there was only seven guys left or whatever at that time,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and I think she was trying to whittle down and
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: like I just said, here's the thing. I would do
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: so many things differently if I could go back, but
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: I actually wouldn't do anything differently because everything worked out
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: exactly what it was supposed to and I ended up
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: doing very well for myself. But um, in my mind,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: like I never got to I was never on a
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: one on one until the day I got dumped, so
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: it was only on group dates, and I fucking killed
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: group dates. I was. I thought I did great every
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: single one. I got the first Rose, first group date,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the second one was like a football one that I
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: had the most touchdowns of anybody. But even though he
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: lost e well you know who got the freaking Rose,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Jordan Rogers. He threw all of them, but I caught
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: all of them. But I was like, I'm doing so good,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: but I don't have any alone time with you. So
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: any time that I had alone time with her, I
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: was like, so, I don't even know what your middle
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: name is, Like who are you? Like? Like what's your
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: a book? I was like trying to like figure things
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: out and then up watching a bat Robbie like the
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: second day being like I'm in love with you, I'm
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: making out Like that's crazy, that's that's much weirder than
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: like what I was doing. Even though I was the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: weird guy. I didn't make it out with her, but
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I was like trying to unders camp but her middle
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: name was So I went went through the show normally
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: and I should not have done that, And like, looking back,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I see that more aggressive. Hell yeah, like I'm not
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: a woos like when it HAPs to chicks take out
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: with chicks. But part of it that was just like so,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: like how many brothers you have? Like things that you
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: asked on the first dance you said like nine consistent
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: first day and I remember, I remember the last day,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I got dumped. I got finally up the one on
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: one and she's shamed me for not making out with her.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: The date cards said best in a best name muchacho,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: which just kissed me, kiss kissed me, you will, and
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: so we I got. I was hanging out with her
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, you know, it's fine,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Like what you're doing, I get it, and like also,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: you didn't write this day card but whatever. But I
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: was like, I've done the math. Do you know how
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: long we've hung out? And she was like how long?
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I said, twenty seven minutes the entire time. Twenty seven minutes, okay,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: which if I meet out with you ines I might
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: get canceling. I might get me too real quick. That's
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: like that's like picking up your first day and like
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: make another before you get You're not wrong. No, I
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: know I'm not wrong. You so have you seen Jojo
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: or Jordan's since no, Like it's so funny though, because
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: we were such buddies something. So after the show, like
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: she would text me and I remember we were at
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: my Heart and um, I heard fest in Vegas and
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: she was like, just so you know, you're the only
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: person other than Jordan that I followed from our show,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: from from my show, and you're the only person that
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: I talked to because I think you're cool when I
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: think we're like we're friends. And I was like, that's cool.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: You didn't need to fucking dump me in Argentina, Like
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: that's fine. Uh. And then like weird things would come
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: out of the people that made it further than I did.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: And if we don't need go into but things happened
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: for other people. The guys that made it further than
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Wells did didn't end up coming out of this whole thing.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: And I would send I would send screenshots to her
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: and I would say, just so you know, um, he
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: made it further than she. And I talked to every
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: one of my ex and they all said I was.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I was anyways, but I got nothing my love for Joe. Joe,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: we were not meant for each other. And I think
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: that's why we both are happy because like I, I
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: don't care, like really, it's not how to say that
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I don't care, like I'm happy for I really do
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: like Jordan. He was a good guy. We were friends
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: on the show and still our friends. Uh. And so
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: that's that's my story. Yeah, isn't it weird too too?
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I mean we have these moments now as we sit
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: around and like have drinks, you know, play golf and
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: talk and let's say like maybe five percent of total
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: conversation is ever about anything about the show when we're
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: hanging out like very little but just how yeah last
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: last a little bit. But like if we're hanging out
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: like in Orlando together, I don't think we probably brought
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: up the show once. Now. I don't think there was
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: one time. I don't think if Dean comes to my
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: house in Denver and visits, the show ever gets brought up.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: But when Yeah, that's because we're legitimate friends. Though yeah
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I'm but I'm just what I'm saying is how much now?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: My point to this whole intro was how much now
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: it has enhanced your life? Like you did just say,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: like you're wearing a modern family jacket right now, like
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the Jackie you have has modern family. You met your
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: fiance because of the show. Your career hasn't fully changed,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: but it's been enhanced. I would say, you know, Dean
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Calin's out here with us. Kalen is Kalen is. You know,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: She's all I need in life. I don't need. I
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: don't need a great career like Wells. I don't need
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: uh a podcast. I don't need a fancy car like Ben.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: You know I got two Well, I mean, if you
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: really think about it, Yeah, so the show led Wells
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: to Sarah be in the show let obviously me to
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Calin more so than either you guys, But the show
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: also led Jess to you in a lot of ways,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: where like she probably would never respond to you had
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: she not been on the show, and so like, in
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways, we do have the show to
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: think for the success we've had romantically. Yeah, I mean
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: it's such a big, you know, pivot point in all
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: of our lives, and it's like it's something I look
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: at with a lot of gratitude. It's not always been ideal,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: but yeah, gratitude. Well, okay, so I think it's your
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: hearing even though this this episode has gone a good
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes passed how long it was supposed to. Yeah,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I can. I can do mine quick because a lot
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: of people listening has heard it. But uh, I was
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: dating girl just to get rid of a reminder. I
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: was dating somebody in college. I thought I was gonna
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: marry and uh, and she her and I are friends now,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: so when the prefaces was saying we're friends and our friends,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: but she was a freshman in college. I was a
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: senior in college. I was ready to marry her my
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: senior of college, you're that guy. I was that guy,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: and uh I was. So she was in Bloomington, Indiana.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: After I graduate, I went back to Warsaw and I
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: would drive down to Bloomington about every weekend. And at
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: some point, like I think for her, and it's totally fair,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: you know, her grab like alumni boyfriend is seems to
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: have nothing better to do than come and visit his
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: sorority girlfriend who's trying to have a good time in college,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, want to take her on dates
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: and like want to do like weekend trips, and I
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: think she's just trying to have a good time in college.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: And so we started doing Matthew McConaughey and Days with You. Yeah,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and so alrightight, alright. So I went down on a
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: trip I still remembers to Bloomington and she's like, what
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: are your dreams and what are your plans? And I said,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, I think we got a good
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: thing going, Like I'll be in worse so I can
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: drive down and see you. And she doesn't know, like, um,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: then you're never gonna leave Worsaw, my hometown. I was like, well,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: there's not a huge reason too. There's a great job
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: there for me, like my parents are there and my
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: family is there. Uh, and she goes, I just think
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: when you do that, you're losing your IT factor. And
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, and we kind of like, I
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: kind of love this woman. Yeah, she's pretty, she's really great. Um.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: And so a month later, it's summer and I wanted
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: her to stay in the up because I'm a jerk,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: and she wanted to go take an internship in Austin, Texas.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: And it was kind of my last hurrah at trying
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: to keep her in part of my life. And so
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I'll drive you to Austin, Texas. I'll take the road
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: trip with your car down there. But let's break it up.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Let's do a trip to New Orleans, New Orleans, and
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: then go to Austin from there. And so we drive
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: down to New Orleans and she, uh, we go out
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: to our first night, we have a great night. Second night,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: we go this really fancy dinner. I still remember it
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: was I had no money in my name and it
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: was like a hundred fifty dollar dinner. And I thought,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, gonna I got thought I was
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: a big deal and I also was so scared it's
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: gonna have money. And at dinner that night, we go
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: and we walk home and we're gonna stop and get
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: a cocktail. Afterwards, we walk into this bar and there's
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: like a five minute wait, and so we're sitting on
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: the side of the bar and she just looks at me, goes,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's time for us to be done. And
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I said what, And there was no sign of this,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: like pointing to this, but she goes, I think it's
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: time for us to be done. And so that was
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: the night before you got into the bar. We were
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: like sitting waiting and like the waiting yet yeah, the hurricane.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: Well this is the best part of story. So I
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: don't have a flight home, and I don't have any
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: money to pay for a fight in New Orleans, so
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I have to drive to Austin and spent a week
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: with her family that she's living at. So we drive
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: nine hours in a car. She puts her hair headphones
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: in and I drive her like the nine hours to Austin, Texas,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: and we don't say a word to each other the
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: whole way. We get to her aunt and uncle's house
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: in Austin, and I would wake up before she woke
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: up every day and leave the house and come back
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: home at eleven o'clock at night. Like I just find
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: stuff to do for a week until my flight could
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: take off because I didn't want to tell my parents.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I was embarrassed and I didn't want to tell them
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: to give me a new flight, and I have the
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: money to buy a new flight, so I just waited out.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Finally flew back um Tandana. I got back to Danna
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: and UH and my buddy and I were gonna based
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: on this. When she said you've lost your factor, I said,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I'm moving. So we decided to move to Peru, South America.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: And we lived in South America. And I end up
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: getting homesick and missing her and thinking I can get
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: her back. So I came back home early. I got
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: back home. UH and my boss at my my job
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: was like a part time job, convinced me to leave
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: town went to Denver. A year after moving to Denver, Um,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I was so sad, and I told that whole first
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: part of the story because I was so sad. I
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: still missed her. Um. I didn't have any friends. I
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: hated my job, and one of the ladies of my
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: work said, then you remember this day, Shews, you're really
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: sad uh and you need to shake life up a bit.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign you up for Will you go with
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: me to an audition for the Bachelor at And I
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: said no, And she said, can I sign you up
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: on the line? And I said, yeah, you can sign
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: me up, And that's when the whole thing started. So
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: she sign me up. A week later, they called um.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Two weeks after that, I blow up my knee and
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: that's when then I kept having conversations with him, but
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell him I was hurt because I thought
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: the show was gonna be starting soon and I was
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: just gonna, you know, tough it out. And then I
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: didn't hear from them for like three months, like they
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: just disappeared. The show disappeared from my life. And so
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I went a hand got surgery. And then right the
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: day I got surgery, um, my mom had came out
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: to take care of me and helped me, nurse me
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: back to help. My phone rang and it was in
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: l A. And she called, and she the l A
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: called and they said, hey, can then be out here
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: in a week. So a week after my surgery, I
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: came out to l a um and did the whole
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: thing you're talking about. You know, you walk into a room,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: there's like twenty five people there. There's a bunch of
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: random girls that are like, I don't know size. You
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: go up to see if you're interesting the date or not.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: There's a room full of bunch of producers and I'm
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: on crutches. And I really think the crutches were the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: thing that like sold me or why I stood out
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: to them was I was on crutches, but I had
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: long hair back then. My hair was down to here
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: really yeah, And I left there they pointing to his shoulders. Yeah. Um,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: they asked me to cut it like when I left there, like, hey,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: this isn't the best look for you, Like, can I
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: see a picture of you with Yeah, I'll find that picture. Um,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: it's it's a great picture. Um. I happened with my
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: fund and in fact, my buddies still make fun of
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: me for to this day. Uh So, anyways, went on
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: the show, um, and as I left, I had a
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: similar feeling to you, because as I left the show,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I had three friends over the night before I got
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: dressed and went on the show, and they're picking out
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: some clothes from me, and my one body goes, um,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of like studs on that show,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: and I was like yeah, and he's like he's like,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I bet you're like you could be there like a
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and like he meant that as a
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: compliment to me, like there's a lot of studs on
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: this show, and you might make it a couple of weeks.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: And so I went on the show fully predicting to
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: be home fairly quickly, because all my friends seemed to
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: think that I was gonna be coming home very in fact,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: my family like and like my family and friends had
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: a consensus where it's like, don't quit your job. Been
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: just take two weeks off like your vacation time. Now
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: you'll be back and then nobody will have to know.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Um it would be like a fun little thing. They'll
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: be like a fun a little like story you tell you.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I was kind of my feeling. And what people don't
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: always remember about my season was there was two bachelorrets. Um,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: so there's Britt and there's Caitlin, and we had to vote.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Well that took two nights, but my intro to them,
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I was so nervous, and I was so overwhelmed and
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: confused that I couldn't get any words out. So I
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: blanked blacked out, but like worse than like blank and blackout,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: like I couldn't talk, like I couldn't figure out how
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: to talk. So I was so nervous, and so I
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: said thanks for having me, and I walked inside like
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: I couldn't even get anything going and so and then
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: once all of our entrances were done, um, we all
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: went back to the hotel because it was a two
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: day film. It was two night filming, and so that
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: was my only interactions, Like I laid the all night.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Then I remember being like, you're an idiot and you're
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: going home, like your friends are gonna make fun of you,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: like you have totally just like embarrassed yourself in front
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: of like everybody, and you're gone. Well it didn't work
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: out that way. I end up sticking around forbid, did
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you vote for Caitlin? I did? I wasn't fully can
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: mean I knew like two from talking to two minutes
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: of them, right, yeah, like you know then you blacked out,
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: son't remember probably talking, but I remember that night I
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: was so like up in the air I'm like, I
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: don't know who to vote for. Producers like who you
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: vote for? Us, Like, I don't know, Like I barely
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: remember both their names right now. Um. And when I
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: went onto the show, I found out the night before
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: we started filming who the Bachelords are gonna be. So
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I have no premeditative like thought on any of this.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: And one of the producers like, you just get along
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: with Caitlin really well, I think, And so I was like,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: I'll vote for Caitlin. Then she seems cool. They poisoned
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: the well they were leading you that one. But the
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: same thing happened to us. Everyone thought that Kayla Quinin
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: was going to be the bachelor man and they announced
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: that it was Joe Joe two nights before we got
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: out of limos, and they came in with iPhones remember,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: and filmed our re action to watching, Like Jimmy Kimlon
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: was h you mentioned something about this too. I remember
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: before I left for the show, I didn't tell any
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: of my friends either. I like told my brothers and
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: I told like two of my best friends maybe like maybe,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: And then we had this huge barbecue like the night
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: before I left for the show, and it was like
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: for like someone's birthday party. But my two buddies that
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I told they were like, oh, like this you're going
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: away barbecue And there was like forty people that like
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: my forty closest friends whatever it was, and no one knew.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: And then sure enough the next day we go to
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: the hotel and then we do like for the first
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: time they've ever done it. They did like the live
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: television thing. It's like I was gone all of a sudden,
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: and like two days later I was on live TV
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: um telling this woman that I want to go black
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: and never go back. And all my friends were like,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: they were like, why did he never tell us he
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: was going to the Bachelor? Also, why did you agree
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: to say that on telling it? Because the land Lane
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: is so smart and he can just kee finds ways in.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was going to say, uh,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: And he like, I think I told you the story before.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I was like in the dressing room by myself with
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Megan Firestone and we were like going over what I
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: was gonna say, Like how hard is it just to
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: be like, Hey, I'm Dean, I'm so excited to be here,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: can't wait to get to know you better. All right,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: see you later. So simple, but like in the moment,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't even make words right now,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so right before I
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: go out there, Alan, who was like one of the
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: executive former executive producers, he comes in. He goes, Dean,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I know you're you know, you're really struggling on what
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you should tell this woman today. But I think, I
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: think I think I got something good for you. And
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I go, I go along, that's great. I'm struggling, like
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: what is it? And he goes, actually, never mind, you're
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be too scared to say it. And then and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: then he leaves, and then I'm like, wow, that must
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: have been great, but like what, like, I'm so curious
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: what it is? And so I like keep like taking
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: shots at tequila to get ready for it. Nervous live
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: studio audience, first time ever doing anything like that really,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: and uh, as we're like lining up behind the curtain
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: to like walk out and introduce ourselves, Alan walks behind
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: me again. I like, I like tap him my shoulder
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: and like, Alan, tell me what you think I should say,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: and he goes, all right, I want to say I
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: want to go black and never go back. And I
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: was like, that is the dumbest thing, and like the
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: dumbest thing I could possibly say. And I thought about
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: it for a couple more seconds, and I was like,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. And the worst part about it, too,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: is well, I that's bad. It's bad to say that,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. But what I disliked the most
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: about my delivery was I literally just said that and
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: then left. I didn't. I wasn't like, oh, by the way,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: my name is Dean. You look beautiful. You didn't even
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: tell your name. I didn't even I don't even think
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I told her my name. I walked out there and
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I stood right in front her for two seconds, and
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I looked up and down and I said I'm ready
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: to go black and never go back. And then I
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: exited stage right and they were also were like they
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: were like, whatever you do, exit stage and left, so
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: I also to the exit. And then I saw her
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: like three days later, and I was like, I can't
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: believe what I did two days ago. I'm so sorry.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: And thankfully, obviously she had a great sense of humor
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: about it. What did she say to you that she's
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I'll be honest, she was like,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: all right, let's get get let's get going then or
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know, but deaners, well, it
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: is an interesting ride. Thank you both for sitting down
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: and sharing this time with us. It is fun to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: hear this because I haven't heard either of yours. Um,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: it's been a great episode of the Almost Famous podcast
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