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OWEN Heinecke Case REVEALS Sooners Week Just Got INTERESTING | Oklahoma Spring Game Preview | · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: We've got so many great things to talk about. I
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  Speaker 1: got a couple of special guests. It's gonna pull up
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  Speaker 1: in here in just a second, but we're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and dive a little bit deeper. Man, this is
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  Speaker 1: a busy week for the Sooners. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Owen Heineke case, got a few thoughts and see
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  Speaker 1: if we get some more insight. We're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 1: Spring game come up this weekend, because that one's gonna
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  Speaker 1: probably be break all of Sooner Internet. We'll also kind
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  Speaker 1: of go through some of the positions and what we're
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to the most. So thank you all, of
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  Speaker 1: course for joining us and pulling us up as usual.
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  Speaker 1: Special guests I got from the Horns Down podcast. Boy Chris,
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  Speaker 1: what's good Man?
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  Speaker 2: What's up man? Long time though? See folks, I know
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  Speaker 2: in a while.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a bit. It's been a bit. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: need to get back to the Sooner collective. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: traveling as as much. I'm still something, but not as much.
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  Speaker 1: But we're gonna get that going and back up and
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  Speaker 1: running or whatnot. And so we got one more that
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  Speaker 1: should be joining us in a couple man. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: happy Sunday, bro. How you been man?
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  Speaker 2: I've been great, man, been blessed, more than blessed, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: blessing more blessing I should be. But yeah, he's here.
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  Speaker 1: You go here, man, I feel the same way. Dog,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a good It's been a
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  Speaker 1: challenging twenty twenty six, but it's been overall the good.
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  Speaker 1: Here man, I see you and the other Chris, Chris Mason,
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  Speaker 1: Chris and Chris out here doing it on the Intel stuff. Man,
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  Speaker 1: y'all been killing it. I always tune in, usually listening
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  Speaker 1: to the background walking around the airport or working around
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  Speaker 1: the house. So good stuff. And I love the chat
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  Speaker 1: that you had. We were talking about the owen heinike K.
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  Speaker 1: So y'all go check it out the full details there
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  Speaker 1: on the horns Down podcast. Go listen to that we'll
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  Speaker 1: also kind of talk talk a little bit about that
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  Speaker 1: as well. But we're talking about this in the green
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  Speaker 1: room a minute ago. Chris kind of want to just
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  Speaker 1: jump right into it, man, As we've been talking about
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  Speaker 1: this week over week all through twenty twenty six, so
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  Speaker 1: many changes, additional pieces, new players, potential formation changes. Man,
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  Speaker 1: how you really feeling coming into spring game week about
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  Speaker 1: this team?
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  Speaker 2: Man? I think the excitement level is is high. Honestly, Again,
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  Speaker 2: like I told you off air, I think that they've
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  Speaker 2: addressed every everything that I needed them to address. I
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  Speaker 2: think that on the offensive side of the ball, you
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  Speaker 2: went out there and let's let's let's uh, let's use
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  Speaker 2: a metaphor, let's lose some type of example. Right, you
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  Speaker 2: have these doors to that offense. We had four doors
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  Speaker 2: at offense last last year, right, and we were only
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  Speaker 2: really able to open one and then kind of partially
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  Speaker 2: open the other. Right. Quarterback was the issue, so we're
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  Speaker 2: able to unlock that door. Wide receiver was an issue
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  Speaker 2: mainly because mostly because of injuries. But we were able
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  Speaker 2: to kind of partially open that door. Right. But you
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  Speaker 2: went out there and I think you got difference makers
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  Speaker 2: in the portal and in the recruiting class. And then
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  Speaker 2: also you went out there and addressed the tight end situation.
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  Speaker 2: I think you revamped that room. And then also I
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  Speaker 2: think you're gonna have a run game this year. So
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  Speaker 2: I think that with those those other three doors open,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to get back to what I was hoping,
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  Speaker 2: oh you would get back to last year anyways, which
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  Speaker 2: is getting up and down the field at the very end. Right.
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  Speaker 2: So the biggest thing is I think they addressed everything
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  Speaker 2: they need to and I think that you hit home
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  Speaker 2: runs in the hiring department as well. You know, often
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  Speaker 2: my k he's telling me, hey man, you know guys
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  Speaker 2: like Jason Witten, not only McCullough and Kevin Wilson, but
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  Speaker 2: Jason Whitten as well. One, they know going forward what
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  Speaker 2: a real quarterback should look like at OU. But also
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  Speaker 2: they're going to come in with different concepts for that
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  Speaker 2: run game and how to attack and how to establish
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  Speaker 2: that here in twenty twenty six and beyond. And so
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  Speaker 2: I think personel on and off the well, let's say,
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  Speaker 2: on the field, with the coaching on the coaching side,
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  Speaker 2: and with the players as well. So I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 2: just about as exciting as I can be. We have
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  Speaker 2: another tough schedule this year. But again, if you go
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  Speaker 2: to the defensive side of the ball, I think the
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  Speaker 2: biggest thing and something.
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  Speaker 1: Real quick before you do that, we'll jump into that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's stick the offense for just a second. Person, I
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  Speaker 1: think you made a really good point about the coaching stab.
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  Speaker 1: We'll jump into that first. Gonna add I got Chris
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  Speaker 1: Mason over here from sooner three to sixty. What's going on, sir?
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  Speaker 1: You do first time on the show. Glad to have
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  Speaker 1: you join us. Appreciate your pulling up. And yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're doing the initial conversation about how we feel about
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  Speaker 1: going the team going into the spring game. Like kind
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  Speaker 1: of as we opened up a minute ago, told was
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  Speaker 1: you know, telling Chris, you know the biggest thing was
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about this week over week, and you know
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  Speaker 1: we're digging into the details. We're really trying to understand it.
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  Speaker 1: And and and our boy Chris kind of started us
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  Speaker 1: with the offense side and having what Signetti said, basically,
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  Speaker 1: you know, having two good friends, a good defense and
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  Speaker 1: a good run game, right, you know, those two very
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  Speaker 1: close friends. And christ you made a really good point
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  Speaker 1: here about not only having Kevin Wilson's probably way more
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  Speaker 1: involved now this year than before. Dylan McCullough also bringing
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  Speaker 1: in a different thought process or different view right of
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  Speaker 1: how the running backs really need to be productive. So see, Mason,
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  Speaker 1: want to hear from you, man, how are you feeling
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  Speaker 1: about it's going into spring game and how do you
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  Speaker 1: feel about this offense? To start?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I feel, I mean very excited about the spring game.
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  Speaker 3: I just hope it's streaming. I can't seem to get
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  Speaker 3: a straight answer on that. See if it's that actually
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  Speaker 3: is streaming on ESPN plus, it's stop showing on their schedule.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they will tell anybody, right, Yes.
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  Speaker 3: That's just sort of like, okay, are you streaming it
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  Speaker 3: or not? So provided its streaming, I'll be extremely excited
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  Speaker 3: to watch it. I mean, after all the positive vibes
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  Speaker 3: that we've been getting, reports that we've been getting. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you listened to the Oaklhom breakdown today,
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  Speaker 3: and it was hard to think that Gab and Teddy
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  Speaker 3: could have been any more excited about what they've been
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  Speaker 3: seeing in spring. They did a Q and A and
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  Speaker 3: talk pretty heavily about the offensive line and stuff, and
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  Speaker 3: it was stranger here I could being so positive about
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line for change, it was kind of nice.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm super excited about it. I think the
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  Speaker 3: offense seems to have had a good spring lots. Other
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  Speaker 3: than the wide receiver injuries, I think spring has gone
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  Speaker 3: about as well as you could expect. Fogi was banged up,
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  Speaker 3: but for the most part, the top six offensive linemen
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  Speaker 3: have been through spring all the way getting the reps in.
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  Speaker 3: And when we hear about the improved running game, I'm
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  Speaker 3: presuming that's our first team O line going going out
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  Speaker 3: there and blocking people. So really that sounds really positive
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  Speaker 3: to me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, the.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff I'm hearing about Materir and Bo Bentley, I think,
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  Speaker 3: just like you know, just like you, Jay is very
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  Speaker 3: very positive in terms of how they're looking this spring.
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  Speaker 4: I've been hearing a lot about Bo Bentley.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start there. Let's start there. I'm glad you said
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  Speaker 1: that because that has been it's been refreshing. Now I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna ask you out this question because I'm really intrigued
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  Speaker 1: by both of you. You know, we'll just go down
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  Speaker 1: the line on this one. Do you think that bol
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  Speaker 1: Bentley is going to be our first quarterback to start
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  Speaker 1: and finish his career at Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm I'm gonna say yes as well, Chris, Chris Mason,
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  Speaker 2: you want to continue or you want me to jump
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  Speaker 2: in just for a second.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'll finish.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think presuming that we have some continuity
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator and presuming that our buckle is his offensive
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  Speaker 3: coordinator for for his three four years of OU whatever
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  Speaker 3: it may be. But depending upon his success rate and
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  Speaker 3: starts and stuff, I think he's I think he's been
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  Speaker 3: developed as long as we have that continuity and he
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  Speaker 3: has to kind of support around him and team around
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  Speaker 3: him that I think we're going to have based upon
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  Speaker 3: recruiting and everything else going on. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the the young the young skill position in spring look
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  Speaker 3: really impressive, right ha, des Walker, Jayden Pattis, jasea Rodgers
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  Speaker 3: Manny choice. Once Et gets back on the field, I
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  Speaker 3: think we're gonna be hearing a lot more about Elijah
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  Speaker 3: Thomas and he seems to be very close. So and
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  Speaker 3: then you know, we know that Jason Witten is gonna
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  Speaker 3: be our tight end coach for a couple of years
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  Speaker 3: probably probably something's close to he'll be at OU as
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  Speaker 3: long as Cooper Witten is at OU Maybe maybe maybe
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  Speaker 3: not that long, but that would be that would seem
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  Speaker 3: to make some sense based.
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  Speaker 4: Upon how he's been working.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: The Van dor Slier kids getting a lot of hype
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  Speaker 3: at tight end. Yeah, I know, Jay, you follow recruiting
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  Speaker 3: heavily like me. We both know if they can hold
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  Speaker 3: on a Seneca driver that that's a difference maker kind
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  Speaker 3: of kid.
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  Speaker 1: Massive win for Witten as a first time tight end
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  Speaker 1: coach at the collegiate level to land something like that.
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  Speaker 1: And we're gonna jump on this jump into tight ends
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  Speaker 1: for a second just a second, but I'll.
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  Speaker 3: I'll end with the the the fact bot Bentley could
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  Speaker 3: have four offensive line starters return next year. Yes, that's
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  Speaker 3: a huge deal. That's I mean, we know Jackson Arnold
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  Speaker 3: struggled and we know some of those struggles, but obviously
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  Speaker 3: the offensive line was a big part of that, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, no wide receivers. It just looks like bo
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  Speaker 3: Bentley is potentially being better set up for success since
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  Speaker 3: any quarterback since maybe Kyler Murray.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say Kyler probably is the last One's actually
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  Speaker 1: a good point, all right, Chris, what you're thinking man?
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  Speaker 1: Because that That was the question I have. I put
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  Speaker 1: a poll out here on my channel, do you think
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  Speaker 1: bol Bentley finishes his career as a sooner because we
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  Speaker 1: haven't had that, We haven't had anybody starting to finish
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  Speaker 1: as a sooner in a long time. I think, oh,
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  Speaker 1: Landry the last one.
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  Speaker 3: It's Landry or Blake Bell, depending upon how you want
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  Speaker 3: to count Blake.
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  Speaker 1: Bell fair fair point, fair point, which which way you
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  Speaker 1: would count it. But I think it's I think it's uh,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's Landry. But yeah, what do you think? Chris?
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  Speaker 2: So I'll start this off one below, but I'll say
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  Speaker 2: this right here. Actually had this conversation with my unc
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  Speaker 2: this morning. Actually shout out so funny.
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  Speaker 1: See see you know we always in line, man, we
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  Speaker 1: always here, We always hear bro.
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  Speaker 2: So my question was was just tabit different, but it's
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  Speaker 2: in the same same lead right Because I asked him,
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  Speaker 2: I said, hey, do you do you look at the
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  Speaker 2: portal next year? Even though you have Robinson coming in
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  Speaker 2: you also you have bo right there, right, my god
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  Speaker 2: get new. But anyways, my uncle he surprised me with
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  Speaker 2: his aunt with his response. He said, oh, yeah, you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at the portal, but you're looking for somebody who's
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  Speaker 2: potentially a backup. He's like, you're he said, bo should
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  Speaker 2: be fine, And so I kind of went off on
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  Speaker 2: a tangent when we were talking this morning because I said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I said, one of the things that gives me the
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  Speaker 2: most hope about Bo is simp is simply the fact
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  Speaker 2: that one, obviously we're seeing this film out there right
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  Speaker 2: he's throwing touchdowns right, but you haven't heard anything unless
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  Speaker 2: you guys have. But I haven't heard anything about DV
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  Speaker 2: taking it lightly on anybody, Matie Bentley, any of them.
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  Speaker 2: And so when you look at him, you're saying he
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  Speaker 2: may actually have better mechanics, he may actually have the
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  Speaker 2: best horm on the team right now, or most accurate.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily sure you got whit new Bauer there,
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  Speaker 2: still got yet new all the rest of those things.
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  Speaker 2: But I think with the way that they're grooming him
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  Speaker 2: right now, he's a carbon copy of Matir could be
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  Speaker 2: Materier two point zero. And this is the type of
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  Speaker 2: quarterback that I think could be really successful with our buckle. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I think the answer is yes, but it's all contingent
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  Speaker 2: upon our buckle. I think our buckle had probably a
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  Speaker 2: c minus year. Last year, there were some question marks
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  Speaker 2: at times, but also there were a bunch of games
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  Speaker 2: that I know all three of us because I watched
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  Speaker 2: this all. I listened to Chris Mason, for sure, but
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  Speaker 2: I know I listened to you, j We always say
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  Speaker 2: the same thing. Guys are open down the fee, we
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  Speaker 2: just gotta throw the ball. We're a little bit timid
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  Speaker 2: right now, uh in that in that area right, So
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  Speaker 2: to kind of end it directly answer your question, I
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  Speaker 2: would say, yes, I think that he could be that.
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  Speaker 2: Now play Devil's avcate here shoututs. I got Jason, I
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  Speaker 2: gotta do that.
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  Speaker 1: But definitely, no advocate.
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  Speaker 2: We know this. It's just one of those things where
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  Speaker 2: you're just like, you don't want to necessarily get into
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  Speaker 2: that Jackson Bowl by naming a starter already. That's all
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  Speaker 2: I gotta say.
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  Speaker 1: But fair, he's your guy.
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  Speaker 2: I think that he's your guy.
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  Speaker 1: In that point, like, in that entire realm of the
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  Speaker 1: question is gonna be what does he look like when
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  Speaker 1: he actually goes on the field. And I'm gonna be honest,
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  Speaker 1: I expect us to I expect him to play four
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  Speaker 1: games total, probably play the two cupcakes to start this
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  Speaker 1: year and in the last two games of the season.
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  Speaker 1: And I say that specific that's the goal. As long
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  Speaker 1: as material is healthy, that's your goal. Even if he
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  Speaker 1: potentially quote unquote knock on what doesn't But if he
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  Speaker 1: gets hurt, you may he may not. They may not
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  Speaker 1: even play him there. They're gonna preserve that red shirt.
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  Speaker 1: That is gonna be the number one goal for the season.
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  Speaker 1: Don't don't take away Bo Bentley's red shirt. Let him
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  Speaker 1: really get ready, give him the Julian Saying treatment basically,
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  Speaker 1: and let him really get himself truly acclimated. Now Saying
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  Speaker 1: had a new oc pop up up there Ohio State,
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  Speaker 1: and they had a pretty good year. So you gott
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  Speaker 1: give him nat He did well in the circumstances. But
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  Speaker 1: on the the harbuckle piece, unless he get a head
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  Speaker 1: coaching job, and honestly, I'm gonna be honest, I think
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  Speaker 1: he takes more of a unless.
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  Speaker 4: Think Jake out out is that you and I are
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  Speaker 4: still good.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we're still good. When Jake gets back, will
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  Speaker 2: uh will let him have his point. But yeah, Chris Mason,
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  Speaker 2: I think that uh yeah, no, I mean that that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of where I'm at at I'm not necessarily quick
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  Speaker 2: to uh, to put a gun on being a name starter.
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  Speaker 2: But I am quick to the point of saying that
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  Speaker 2: I do think that he starts to finish his career here.
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  Speaker 2: I think everything is set up. I think everything is
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  Speaker 2: set up for him to be successful in that instance.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well, two factors that do that makes this one
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  Speaker 3: big factor that makes this different than the Jackson Arnold situation,
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  Speaker 3: and that is to a certain degree both Bentley was
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  Speaker 3: also scouted and evaluated by Jim Naggy and the rest
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  Speaker 3: of his staff.
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  Speaker 2: Great point, great point.
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  Speaker 3: And we're kind of seeing that, we're kind of seeing
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  Speaker 3: the impact that makes with the freshman the first freshman
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  Speaker 3: class of Jim Naggy, that we're hearing how positive it's going,
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  Speaker 3: how well the freshman class, how good the freshman class looks.
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  Speaker 4: So and one of the things I heard.
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  Speaker 3: Naggy saying one of his interviews, since we're just taking
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  Speaker 3: over Jay's channel here, is one of the things he
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  Speaker 3: liked about bo Bentley was the fact that he played lacrosse,
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  Speaker 3: and the speed of lacrosse and the quick instincts and
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  Speaker 3: the quick movement in lacrosse. He felt like he liked
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  Speaker 3: the fact that he played another sport, and he liked
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  Speaker 3: the fact that he played lacrosse because of the quick
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  Speaker 3: reaction time and the anticipatory skills you have to have
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  Speaker 3: in lacrosse to be effective playing that game with all
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  Speaker 3: of the movement and how quick the balls moving around. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I guess they call it y. Well, I haven't played lacrosse,
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  Speaker 3: so if someone please correct me there. So those are
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  Speaker 3: the two variables I find interesting is that Bo Bentley
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  Speaker 3: was a wide receiver, so he obviously has that athleticism
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  Speaker 3: he understands. And I was mentioning Jay that one of
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  Speaker 3: the things I said, one of the two things about
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  Speaker 3: two different things about Bentley versus Jackson nod at number one.
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  Speaker 3: On some level, Bo Bentley, as Jim Naggy approved and
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  Speaker 3: the scouting staff approved.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, that's a difference. That's a difference.
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  Speaker 3: That's an NFL guy watching his film. And because he
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  Speaker 3: verbal in June, right right before his official right after
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  Speaker 3: his official visit.
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  Speaker 1: Ye, and now we know that our buck Will was
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: targeting him before Naggie got hired. But yes, to your point,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that was a at the end approval of yes, let's
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: go for it, let's continue.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, Naggie, I mean, you and I both followed
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: recruiting last April and we saw guys that the coaching
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: staff wanted that Naggie said no, and we dropped the
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: number of kids that I thought would be in the
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: class and have projected to be in the class. So
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: that that April time frame to his June visit, if
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Naggie didn't like what he was seeing, he could have
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: said to our buckle, we need to keep looking for
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: another quarterback or you need to do something different quarterback.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: And then I was and I was mentioned to Chris
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: to repeat for your ordin just so you heard it
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: as that I heard Naggie mention that he loved the
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: fact that that Bo Bentley played lacrosse.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Ah yeah, like Owen right, Yeah, our.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Second sport anticipatory quick. I mean, lacrosse is lightning fast, anticipatory,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: small windows boom. So it's very much a reactions. But
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: you've also got to anticipate, say what you're doing, project, you know, quickly,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: project what you're doing. So that helps that that gives
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: me hope that perhaps that mental processing speed he has yep,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: is faster than maybe that that's the if you want
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: to identify that as the issue with Jackson, maybe Bo
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: doesn't have.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: That issue exactly.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Free. I was sitting here Waitingfield to do his point. Yeah,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: well I'll keep going again, Hey, Chris Mason. The only
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: thing I was gonna add to that until Jay gets back.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: The only thing I was gonna add it that A
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: is that, yes, Naggie is also an important factor as well.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: And this mainly because I think that another way you
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: could say it was different than when Jackson took over
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: was a simple fact that now you have Naggie in his.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Front their mind. I thought, I'm not ain't gonna even
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: say it no more because obviously been our buckle attacking
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: my house. Because the minute I said but to say this,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: this part, I'm gonna say, I try one more time
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: that I think Ben's gonna take the Brent Vinables route,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and he's really gonna take a really good job and
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: not just take anything. I don't think he takes a
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: G five head coaching job unless BV wants him out
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the door, and I don't think that that's the case.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: I think it's really gonna be. I think that they're
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: they're they're going he's gonna want something that makes more sense.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: So anyway, that was my entire thought, kri I got.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: The other thing. I was gonna add to that, just
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: to get it out of the way. I was just
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: gonna say, Chris Mason. The other way that it's different
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: is that uh nagging, his staff are there to take
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: care of the other part, the recruiting and all the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: rest of that. So now BV can focus on who
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: he wants, but also he can spend more time just coaching,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: doing what he loves. And I think that that's a
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a big, big thing, you know. And
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I think that's that's being that's illustrated by the fact
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: that he's sitting down with a teer and making time
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: for that. I don't I'm not sure if that was
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: happening in the past, but I think it's something to
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: where they understand they have a championship window and I
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: think that it's it's only it only can get wider,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: uh this year, but consistency, and I think that's what
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: they're looking for. So uh yeah, No, I think Bo
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Bentley does finish here at Oh you same.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I don't expect him to. I expect him to finish
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: here and I don't even I expect our I'll say this,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if Arbuckle finish this here. I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: think Arbuckle does eventually get an opportunity as a head coach,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: probably at the later part of bow Bentley's career, but
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think bo Bentley leaves with them. I think
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: that bv's built enough of a culture here to where
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I think you stick around. So, uh, James and Roberts,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you know that's gonna be an interesting one. And when
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: that when we hit that road, that bridge and what
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: a few years. But uh, see, Mason, you mentioned this earlier,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and I think that this is a good topic to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: kind of transition to before we really jump into some
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: defense talk. Is witten Man, Yeah?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: It.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: All the reports coming in is yeah, he he's The
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: players are responding the way you want him to respond,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: want them to respond. They're excited about him, and they're
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: excited about how he's coaching them. I gotta say, man,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I'm still skeptical. I'm going to be for a bit
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: because high school guy going into his first job. We'll see,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: but it's not like he had much like hit the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: gap for him compared to what we had in the past.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Ain't that wide? It ain't that wide right?
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Bars bar is real love.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the bar is beyond low and like I got
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: only bagging on people, y'all as y'all know me, but
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: still it it the bars low super low.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Did you see the Hayden handsOn interview I did. I mean,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: that was like, if you're for a tight end Starr
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: fan base, that was like borderline pornographic. The way he
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: was talking about blocking, and and the way Witton was sick,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: you know it was it was borderline, you know, and
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: the way he was I just loved the way he
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: was talking about Witt and coaching and he was like,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: you know, he's teaching me things that I never got
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: at Florida. I mean, and Hayden Hansen was maybe top
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: five blocking tight ends in college football last year.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: That's just that's just a plant of fact. If you
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: if you, if Sooner fans are wondering where I get
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: that from, just watch the game against Texas where he
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: beat the crap out of Texas and he was a
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: big reason why Florida was able to do what they
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: did on offense and win that game. And for him
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: to talk about witting in that regard in terms of
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: what he's teaching me all these things about blocking I
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: never knew, and then he's teaching me all this stuff
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: about receiving that I never knew. And then you see,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: you know, we had another you know, we had two
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: more elite tight ends from twenty twenty eight on campus
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: in the last couple of weeks. It's just it's I'm
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: waiting for a shoot to drop. But it looks like
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: that was just a massive home run higher and the
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Alabama guy who turned us down, it looks like may
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: have done us a favor.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that actually that is what it sounding is. I
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: know that he was very high on the list. You
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: had a couple other people, and I think the goal,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: what I've heard, was get somebody, have them bring something
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: mighty with them, right, like bring a player with them,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: a young player, a young talent. I think that's why
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the k State situation at conversation was so big, as
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: you can bring in a cure or you know, bringing
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: someone that you hope would help with that. But hey,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I gotta give it to him. So I'm ready to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: see what vandor Slayer doesn't already see what he gets
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: with yourne Washington, who's gotten big and saw his big
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: number twenty two. I saw him in one of the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: pictures and videos. It's like, if he gets his blocking down,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: game changer. I want to pivot over though, into the
• 23:46
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• 24:58
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• 25:01
  Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit of recruiting too. We're gonna
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: give you out that.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I've had a few people in the comment sections that, ay,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: can we get some recruiting talk. We will, because this
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: week it's gonna be a visitor list, and I know
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: that visual list is gonna be wide and long. Pauls
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: on all of that. But I know I'm gonna have
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: a conversation also with my guy Colin Kennedy hopefully later
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: this week, also about what that looks like. So but defense,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: though this is gonna be a BV defense. The biggest
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: question mark, I'm saying, my biggest question mark is one
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: just linebackers, and that's who the second group is gonna
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: be the rest of the defense. I have zero questions personally,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and I think it's because I'm just that confident. Now.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: The other thing I can say is the fact that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: we got talking about Brenvnables here, and this is a
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Brint Vnables defense, And Brivnables is a linebacker guy. And
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: he has three coaches that coach linebacker him and two others.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Why am I concerned about linebacker? Well, you know, when
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you lose a player like Taylor him, who was very versatile,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: kind of put you in astircumstance. But defense wise, where
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: where y'all's posts at as we prepare for this game
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and who y'all want to see the most in the
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: spring game.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: So, first of all, just just to address that on
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: his head, Jay, I had a bunch of people up
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: there at my job last year who had the same Uh,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: they had the same concerns about the linebacker corps. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: we were five deep last year for the most part.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Sometimes we were four and a half, but we were five.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: But uh, anyways, you know, you know, but uh all,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: you know, all I'm saying is this right here, is
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: that I trust what uh what with driveling and then
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and then also west gut when I trust
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: what they can do. Chris Mason and I we both
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: have been named me a whole bunch of people. I
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: think you know Marcus James once, like Chris Mason said
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: earlier this last week on one of our pods, once
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: he gets that blue shirt off, once he can actually go,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: he may be a guy that can actually you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: they can expedite that curve for him. Right, obviously Sullivan,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: obviously nessa obviously kit you have I think three solid starters. Now.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I think if you get if you get a honey Keyback,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you wanted Heim for a lot of reasons. But if
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you get honey Keyback, this may this this takes you
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: to potentially top five linebacker rooms in the nation. Like
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: like my mon said, potentially best linebacker room in the SEC.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I said it. I said it. Okay, So hey, y'all
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: can come back and say all the rest of that.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Chris Mason, who who are you most excited to see?
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Well, you took, you took, you took linebacker. So I'll
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: I'll go, I'll go d line. So I'm dying to
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: see what Danny Akoye looks like. Yeah, I mean that
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: is if you're talking about someone who is a who
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: has if they have a breakout season could raise the
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: level of this already elite looking defense.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Dannyakoye is one of those guys. I mean if he I.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Mean his he has like top ten NFL type ceiling,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: the way you heard Jim Naggy talking about him, Like
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: last fall NFL guys at games were asking him, who's
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: who's sixteen? Who is that? Who is that mutant? And
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Jim Naggie is like, leave him alone, it's it's coming,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: it's coming. So that's the one guy, and then the
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: other guy being a recruiting guy. Like as I keep saying,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Tank Carrington was a very interesting verbal commitment.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: I think, oh, you got him back in August.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: They had canceled his official visit in June or he
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: had canceled it. He chose a FSU. He was close
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: to a fine star and then had fallen off completely,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: so I know you picked him back up.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I was like, all right, what.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I kind of questioned that, but I certainly don't question you.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: What Todd Bates is doing, and you know in development
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: and then you hear that he's probably gonna get stamps
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: as a freshman, so I would like to see that
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: we see, you know, I'm interesting I love to see
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: what we can see with Nigel Smith and Trent Wilson,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: but I want to see Tank Carrington, or the Tankasaurus
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: as they call him, allegedly, that's what that's his nickname, apparently,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Tankasaurus Carrington. I'm be fascinating to see Tank Carrington and
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: see if that freshman hype.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Is real, because if it is, that's a.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Massive recruiting win from twenty twenty six that none of
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: us really calculated that much. If he's if he's an
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: impact players, if he can get starts as a freshman
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: on this team, that that bodes well for his future development.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the D line, the EDGIT room is going
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: to be fun. And I asked that. I say, the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: quote unquote concern around the linebacker is that it's starting
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to slowly get thin. It's slowly getting thin. That's the
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: good thing. Slowly the bleeding is slow. You want to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: hope that you can at least have that solidifire, you
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: get Owen back and then that completely goes out the window.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: No one has any more concerns because now you have
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: two guys that can roll with with like for example,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: you'll have Kip and Sully you'll have Owen and probably
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Nesta with a mixture of Marcus James that you feel
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: super comfortable with. And to me, and I mentioned this
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: over on Locked On with John, we were talking about
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: this a little bit. If Brent venables in this staff,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like they're very comfortable with what you got
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: with Nesta, James and maybe one of the linebacker they
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: may had that we're not talking about yet, probably was
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: high at the time, but they may have one more
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: to go with that for them to allow o Ma
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Sego and Kobe McKenzie to go, Like you could have
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: found a way to convince Sammy to be just the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: rotational guy for one more year if you really wanted to.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: But I have noticed that when guys get to that
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: final year of eligibility, that's kind of when they let
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: them know, Hey, you're probably gonna start somewhere else. You
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: probably won't start here. Better options for you to go
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: start shopping. The younger players they lose a lot of
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the times. It's not do as they want to lose.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: But I know the older ones are more of a
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: go make your money. Somebody's gonna pay you more than
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: us to play and start go take advantage of that
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: because we were kind of good, got we got enough
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: depth that we should be all right. That's kind of
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: what I noticed.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Jay. Can I just add to your point real quick
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: and I'll let you keep going. Chris Mason already knows.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: But I think that's the narrative that nobody is talking
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: about on the defensive side of the ball, especially. They
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: bet on a lot of guys, a lot of returning
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: guys this year. They didn't go out to the portal
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: and try to address a lot of things right where
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: you may have questions about the white Gilmour, he's here, right,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: He's somebody that could factor in obviously, Nigel Smith, Trent Wilson,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: guys like that. They didn't go out there and go
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: big or go home. I think they got a guy
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: and Bishop Thomas, I think that he his motor. Just
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: with the coaching, the level of coaching from Bates, that
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: could be something. But at the same time, you bet
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: on a lot of kids that you already have the
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: pjson world that we're still waiting to kind of burst.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: How that breakout year. We've seen a lot of breakout plays.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: We haven't seen that just full consistent year, right, But
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: at the same time, you bet on a lot of guys. Hell,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: even though as far as saying Taylor Wyant, you bet
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: on him to be able to feel that void of
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: not having a our Mason Thomas. So I mean, I'm
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: just gonna say, I think that you bet on yourself
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: this year. And I think that defensively at the very least,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: I think we all I can speak for everybody and
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: say we trust what they're doing on that side of
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the ball especially, So I think that's the narrative that's
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: not getting talked about or highlighted enough this year. So
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm jacked up to to see this
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: defense man.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: So it just made this connection because Naggie is you know,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: is came from the Patriots. Some of the personnel losses
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: on the defensive side kind of have a little bit
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: of the Patriots during their best run when they were
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: kind of.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Letting guys leave and then moving guys in.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: When you think about it, like, you know, they knew
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: when to not re sign a guy, let a guy
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: go somewhere else, and they would sort of move there,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: move move their draft picks up. I mean, just think
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: about the linebacker position. If they had kept Kobe, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: Sam O. Our top four linebackers would all be seniors. Yeah, right,
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: So now our top four linebackers are kimp Is a senior,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Sullivan's a junior, Nesta is a sophomore, and then Marcus
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: James or I think it would have been Jacob Curry
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: if he hadn't heard his knee, may have been Jacob Curry.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: But let's just say Marcus James. The blue shirt comes
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: off and he his development skyrockets, which everyone thinks it does.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: They say he looks great out there. It's just not contact, he's.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Just but he's moving, He's he's elite looking athletic, you know,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: sideline the sideline skill wise, he's elite looking.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, then Heim will probably rotate in there too.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Healthy if he's healthy. So all of a sudden, you
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: go from four seniors to one senior, and then you've
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: got a junior, and then you've got a couple of
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: underclassmen behind them, so you're always Brent spacing it out,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: and you've got like Dang bat Hurst who's probably get
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: a red shirt, right, and then you've got the guys
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: coming in in twenty seven.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: So he's the guy that get it that intrigues me
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: at everybody, Like I've heard about athleticism with Jacob Curry
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and I totally understand it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: But he's argue he's out this fall, He's out this fall.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's out right right. But I've heard the
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: athleticism of him more so talking about twenty seven. Yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: but yeah, heard his athleticism very intriguing. Jan drou the
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: other twin, I know one of them's hurt. One is
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: gonna play, yeah bo. So the linebacker is the one
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: that's down. That's another one that next season could come
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: in with something. But and then of course Christian Moore,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: we've seen him be the hits guy. He's at two
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: thirty ish, so he's he should be intriguing. Bathurst is
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the one that really got my attention. He's already the
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: biggest linebacker on the squad of two forty. He's a
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: big dude, Like we have a really people don't realize
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: our linebacker room right now is six three plus except
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: for kid and then Owen when he shows up right,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Marcus uh nest Us over six three. Him is of
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: course over six three. Uh Sully over sixty three. Bathurst's
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: over six. You've got a pretty tall and athletic linebacker room.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: And that's gonna be fun.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: But it's now space.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: It's now spaced out right you now, Yep, he's almost
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: facing it out where he's gonna he's got a senior linebacker.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: He's developing it. So we'll have a senior linebacker every.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Year right solo the next year, Nesta after that, Marcus James.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Or right behind Bathurst or you know, I.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Think you got Tavin Epps behind that.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: And it's just, you know, he's got like an assembly
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: line of six foot four two and thirty five pound
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: guys at my linebacker after the bad recruiting year from
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: from our friend who's now at West Virginia, who Chris knows,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I don't really miss.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think many people miss, you know. I think
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: we're happy with bren Vnibles as a defensive coordinator, right.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: He's good at it as a linebacker coach, exactly. I
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: don't even think that, honestly, do y'all think Bv's gonna
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: give up the the DC spot. Ever, I'm kind of
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: in the camp now that I think he just enjoys
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: it a little too much.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I think he enjoys it a little bit too much,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: And I think that it just depends how does that
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: relationship between he and a Brandon Hall like continue to evolve? Right?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Does he want to look for granted pastors and get
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: ahead another head coaching job or does he you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: is that something that he would do? You know here,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I think that would kind of obviously be the probably
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: mean right.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I think Hall could have had it already if he
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: wanted it, And it feels like he's just like nah
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: to me, truth be told. I think Chavis, I think.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: A Hall and.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe reaching a little bit. Maybe God went. I think
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: they're kind of happy with being positioned guys, maybe even baits.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: They maybe I love what I'm doing. I'm good, I
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: don't need to do. I enjoy focusing on this one thing.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: But I could see God when looking at other options too.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's his buyout. The final portion of his
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: payout from Clemson ends this year, so if he wants
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: to go get another job or become a DC, he can.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: He'll have the option. Dryling. I don't know. I don't
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: have a good polse on him, but I could see
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: him going to go be another DC if it's a
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: bigger program. I could see him doing that instead of
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: going back to G six region. I could see him
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: P four taking a DC row somewhere. Possibly. I think
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Hall is happy where I think Hall's done. It's like
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: beating bow, right, beating Boat's done the OC thing for
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: a while, and it's just like, nah, I just want
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: to close off Limban. I'm good, I'm gonna do this,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: so I retire, then I'm out. And who wouldn't complain
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: about having a million dollar job where you just focus
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: on one position.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Well, that's the one thing Brent. Brent being d C
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: basically saves. Oh you want four million dollars to go
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: hire someone like the who's at Tennessee, the guy that
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: they flirted with at the end of last year who
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: went from Ohio State to Penn State.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: His name escapes me. He's now at Tennessee.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Oh no, you you're talking about nos No?
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Right, So, so a top to replace Brent's skill level
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: at d C. You're talking about three four million dollar
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: DC you're hiring from somewhere, right, So, in essence, by
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: Brent being d C, you save that money, which Brent
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: can redirect towards his defensive coordinators, so you can keep
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: baits and Chavis. They're already at the million dollar range.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: That's I mean, as you said, a million dollars to
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: coach the position that you're passionate about and the play.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Chaves has a lot of young
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: you know, has a young family. Norman's great place. He's
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: probably you know, and with the way he's recruiting and coaching,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: you know, the next round, I can see him going
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: to like one, two, five, and Brent just like I'll
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: continue to be DC and I'll just continue to have
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: million dollar assistance underneath me.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: That are the best assistance I need.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: But I agree, and they did a good They done
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: it so good, not only were recruiting and you're seeing development.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: It kind of makes no sense for right now. Stability
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: is in a good spot. We just got to stay consistent.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: But if BV is a situation where they pull the plug,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: teams are probably going to be like a the Nates
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Cos gonna be like I love to keep them.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Lamar and Lamar Morgan, I think
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: is what I In the interviews I've seen with them,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: it's clear he's looking for a home, He's looking somewhere
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: he wants to be for a while, and that's why
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: he wanted to. I mean, he was aggressively after the
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: OU job. He was searching all of this, he was
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: searching all of his contacts to find someone who knew
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Brent to get his his resume in that pile. And
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: he finally that he found somebody, He's like, oh, yeah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I was. I was after this job. I was, you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I didn't know Brent directly, but I knew someone who
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: knew Brent directly, and he said, you want to go
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: to Oklahoma, I'll get your resume to the end of
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: the end of the stack. And once Brent, you know,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: got that resume. You know, I think we were all
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: impressed at Lamar Morgan's profile, and we thought that was
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: a really good hire. That was it was a surprising
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: higher card. Everybody kind of blindsided with a bunch of
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: different names. But I think Lamar Morgan's here to kind
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: of set some roots down, you know, because I think
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: that's the one thing defensive coaches at least see under
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Brent is just stability, scheme, reputation. Uh, It's it's very attractive,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: and that's why you were able to get someone as
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: as as qualified as Lamar Morgan I mean, javel I
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: was doing a great job.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: But I don't think we're gonna miss a beat at
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: cornerback me either.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: And I think Jay really proved himself this past year
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: with how Courtland came along and then Eli coming off injury,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: goes right back to his old self. Gingry unfortunately couldn't
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: stay healthy. We'll see him in Athens, but hopefully for him, yeah, yeah, hopefully,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I actually would like to see him on the field.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Tulsa boy, stand up. I was hoping that he'd be
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: ready to go and ready to play and prep himself
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: to go.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Leave Memorial guys, So cheer for book t.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Is tough, understood, understood. I'm a hornet, so yeah, I'm
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: totally get you in that. But yeah, that that room
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: and what Vely put together because this this past season
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: was the first year that he played only his guys.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: He recruited Brandon Hall for the most part, only coached
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: his own guys only his quote unquote recruits, right like
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Billy was already there, of course, but Peyton's part of
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the recruiting class for him. You go down the line,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: safeties have been guys that they that they have recruited
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Cheetah's been a little different. It's been a mixture of
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: people that they've been testing out, but him, I think
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: actually Hall is the only one that had played his guys.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: That's it. Everybody else had transfers in, and he had
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: the most transfers if you really look at it, going
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: from even desm alone to CJ. Colden, you know, you
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: know all of that in between. There's a lot of
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: transfer corners that we brought in and was trying to
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: find that mix. But now it's literally our dudes with
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: now like what two now young transfers that they brought in,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: but the rest of them are all recruits. You can't
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: beat that, And that tells you how strong of a
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: coach he is, that his guys are good enough to
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: actually start here like that. You know what I'm saying,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: How often do you get that? How from you get that?
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Lucky like offense is basically all transfers except for your
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: running back room.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did four started at the top six offensive
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: lineman for our homegrown. So that's that's now, that's a
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: that's a good transition. But the gentry being hurt, you're right,
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: when gentry got hurt and we lost those two first
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: years of him and Brandon. You know, Valy was sort
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: of piecing things together U and you know now he's
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: got his guy whatever they were doing with Jacobe John.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: So when they moved in a wide receiver and screwed
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: that year up.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: For him, yeah, little desperation, but yes, yeah, I gets help.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Didn't help. But yet it's Brandon Hall's you know, it's
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: his guys. I mean, it's it's last year.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: It was Jayden, Hardy Powers, Boganowski, you know, Robert Spears
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Jennings who he inherited, and Billy.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: He's all got lucky inheriting Robert Spears.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Jenning and Bowen. So yeah, that is exactly the leftovers,
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: the picked off leftovers of the speed d.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: He probably inherited the two best pieces other than other than.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Stutz Stuts, Billy Bowman and Robert Spears Jennings were probably
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: the best inherited pieces.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. And that was the and in
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: that class, Gentry and Robert Spears Jennings were basically saved
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: because when Baby got the job, they just had to
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: go in there and re recruit them to come and stay.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: So technically they count as recruits for them too, that's
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: the good thing, right, Yeah, they can actually kind of
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: count them as a recruit that they saved to stick around.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, you have that. You don't get that
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: very often. Not a lot of these position coaches get
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: the the luxury. I've been able to do that, but again,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: like I said, they they had to go through so
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: many corners. Like Doby was one that they brought in
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: as a juco guy. So he's a recruit. I mean,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Buthal had it so good. He had it. He has
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: it so good. It's more so because he's done so
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: well Bates. For the most part of the last couple
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: of years, it has been his guys besides Dom that's
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: been solid. Chaves has had a bunch of extra pieces
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: on top of his current guys, like our Mason being healthy.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: You get him and then you bring in some additional
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: some additional just firepower just in case. But you're seeing
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: his players show up. Taylor Wan was it still hands
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: down our best, Evaal like, that's a development evat that
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you can't No one would ever argue and say that
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: that that Chaves deserves anything less than what he's getting
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: from that pick up. But you're right though, see Mason
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: is the beating bows. Also, he's gone into a few
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: he had to pick up some transfers to kind of
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: fill some holes, but for the most part, he's been
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: building a solid foundation of his guys, and I think
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: that's why that's the only reason why I haven't been
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: really out or why I've been more so cautious, very
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: optimistic still with some caution for this staff is they're
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: actually keeping their own players, and this is the stuff
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: that wins you games. This is the stuff that wins
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you games long term, is when you're able to coach
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: your own kids and you're not constantly living in the portal.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: So recruiting, I do want to talk a little bit
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: about recruiting because I kind of want to hear what
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: uh what uh, Chris Mason's here it as far as
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it's this list is coming up. I know that we
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: got a lot of kids showing up in the spring game,
• 45:51
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• 45:53
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• 46:00
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• 46:04
  Speaker 1: that he's really playing because he needs to be eligible
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: for end of season awards, so he's got to play
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: at least twenty minutes fifteen if he gets hurt. So
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I don't see him going more than nineteen and a half.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: But you know what, playing against San Antonio, he may
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: have a vendetta out. He may actually do it, so
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: we'll take him. We're gonna we're gonna test it out.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna definitely take Thompson to take at
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: three and a half. There. I don't even think Wemby's
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: gonna play that much, so I'm ana pass on him.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: But I'm taking Lebron to get us twenty five points
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: against Utah. He shouldn't play the entire game, but Lebron
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: should go off. But I do think Winby gets a
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: bunch of rebounds just to you know, say that he
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: did it. That's if he plays. We'll see about that.
• 46:48
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• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the Knicks, and we'll take We'll take Paul George. So
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• 47:42
  Speaker 1: do the Sooner Intel throughout the week talking some recruiting,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and I've been seeing a lot of good posts over
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the last few days with people pulling up spring game
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: something that we need because it's gotten quiet and I'm spoiled.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be honest, that's the problem for me
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: right now. Spoiled. We're doing a lot of winning. We're
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: not winning right now, at least not as often as
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: I would like who y'all looking forward to see. I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: just saw that Howell down there in Broken Bow mentioned
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: he'll be in town. He said, Uh, if you got
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: if you want to come up, come say, come speak
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: and you know, share some stuff because I think Greyton,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I think Green how is gonna be a fun prospect.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: He really reminds me of Terry Bussey just in US,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: much smaller city. If I'm being honest. Bussy was nasty
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: with it down there in Houston area with y'all thinking
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: who who's jumping out to y'all that y'all hope to
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: see in town?
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Chris Mace, you want, okay?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: So the number one name I would love to see
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: him down is Gus coorsare come to the spring game.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: He's had some visits, he's done the show, he's had
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: the dance time to lock this down and be the
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: offensive lineman in the class call of the days.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: So that's the number one guy i'd love to see
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: drive down from Kansas with your buddy Tyson Ross, hang
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: out with all of your other fifteen buddies or verbally
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: committed to OU that will probably be at the game.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: So that's the number one thing. The number one commit
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I'm happy that's confirmed coming is Elijah Harmon because he
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: was not able to come for Future Freaks, so he'll
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: be at the spring game. And if you follow social media,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: you know he's like all in, he's posting stuff all
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: the time about you. But it's nice to get him
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: back on campus. I would love I think Gabe Osborne
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: was actually on campus already this weekend, so maybe you
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: can't get him back for the spring game, but obviously
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Mustang's Gabriel Osbourne. You would love to have him back
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: at the spring game because Jay, it's go use that
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: twenty commits and we know there's another silent commit out there.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: And if you don't know that, you know you should
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: be following Chris and I on Mondays. I've been talking
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: about that, so you know you'd like to see that.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: The the most interesting name uncommitted who's visiting. And he's
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: confirmed this on social media numerous places. I think Colin
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Kennedy probably had this news first to give him the credit,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: as Colin does a great job. Over at two four
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: seven is the Uhila Wolfgram defensive end from Utah Topra's guy.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: That's right, he's supposed to be in the spring game.
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: That's OU's first exposure to him. Michigan just did a
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: big song and dance with him. They're making a heavy
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: play for him. And obviously that Staff, who Chris will
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: tell you I've already called them Utah Michigan Utah twice
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: in our discussions of a subliminal slip of the tongue there.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Obviously that staff has a lot of Utah connections. But
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: he would be an interesting third tight end in his
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: class if you can get Crew Jones and then Miles
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: Smith from Michigan, who I love is a complimentary edge
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: to Crew Jones. If you can get those three guys
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: at defensive end, that's about as good a group as
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I think you know you can really could really ask for.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: So that's a name I don't think any big, big type.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think any big wide receivers are going to visit,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: so I'm not quite sure what he was doing a
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: wide receiver. If they can keep Trevon Hall, that makes
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: that makes you at three. And if they said to
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: be recruiting this kid from from Texas is Bryce and
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: brown kid who they I think they're really looking at
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: as another wide receiver, So that's that would be nice.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: I think Ben Kohlar and Case Alexander obviously you'd like
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: to see them back at the spring game, but they
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: just visited for a practice, according to ou Insider. So
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: it's the interesting thing for me, Jake is being the
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: recruiting guy. I'm already like two years ahead, right so
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: I'm already thinking about is what interesting twenty twenty eight
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: kids show up? And the kid I would really like
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: to show up would be Bret Brady, the twenty twenty
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: eight tight end from Mustang, Ricky Brady's kid for those
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: of you remember the Ricky Brady stuck on some of
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: those very mid GiB teams in the early nineties.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: His kid is six six, two fifty as a tight end.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: I think we have a certain coach that could could
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: turn that into something down So I'd like to see,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: like to see if he's on campus this weekend.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: That'll be a good one. The Maple Mountain I am
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: very intrigued to see will be with Graham pull up, man.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like if they get him on, if if
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: he does actually show, I haven't man, I think they
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I think they lock that down. I think they they see,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: they close it and say, hey, man, part of class, bro,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: what're we doing? Lock In? Be a part of this
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: because he's gonna be fun over the next over the
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: next few months, as more and more people are discovering him. Man,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be fun to see. Jump up. I need
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: to go to a video on Him've been meaning to
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: do it, has been slacking that. He's a fun one
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: to watch play. I went and watched the highlights, and
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, yeah, when can we just drop
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: a bag now something like you just get this tip
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: to lock In freight train man, and we need more
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: like that. We need more this disruptive dudes like that,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: like Marcus fatal Is one. I was really hoping we
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: would have got our hands on, but it doesn't sound
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: like we had any opportunity to really get that. What sucks.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: He was fun to watch. His was that sophomore year
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: he came for the bren Vinables camp. I think me
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and PG actually freshersman freshman year, That's what it was.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: He immediately gave my offer.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: He reclassified since then, so that's why.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, that's what it is. Then when he came BBA,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: they basically gave my offer right there at the camp
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: because he was at the kicking people's tail and I'm just.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Like, hey, who is that kid?
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Well, no one knew he was.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: He was six seven two sixties now six seven I
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: think three hundred. Yeah, and he's just moving around, you know. Yeah.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: I wish you could have gone back in that back
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: in that race. I just hope he doesn't. I hope
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: he just sticks. You know, you can stay in the
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: big ten ord of the day. Don't don't yeah, don't
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: seem Georgia, Texas.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, don't don't be like out and sown and
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: hit up, hit up a U g A. That would
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: break my heart. Just what you got? Man, Who are
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: you thinking?
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: What's already you already named the kid? He's from my
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: he's from my neck of the woods. Man in the
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: state man southeast kid. You gotta you gotta, you gotta
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: shout out that kid, man, that that's that that's from
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: down there in my neck of the woods. We don't
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: get that all that often, especially somebody who has the
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: potition to go out here and actually make a real
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: uh difference on the field. So I mean that would
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: be my right there with.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: You on that harmon coming is gonna be good. It's
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: good to get your commits in in town to continue
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: to fellowship. And like I said, peer recruit, uh little
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: bow and AlSi though, Sada he pulled up Little Marcus
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: another hitter. Can we lock that down? I think worth
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: having at his size?
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Well, it just depends. I mean. The wild card is
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: if you if you get case in case Alexander is
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: back on campus again, right, So if you can convince
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Case Alexander that playing linebacker for Brent is better than
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: going to follow Matt Campbell in Happy Valley, which I
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: think you should be to win that argument. I think
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: you know that that would that would upset that and
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: the guy the wild card name at linebacker and slash
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: safety because I think perhaps if you one thing out
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: coming out of spring is maybe we need three safeties
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: in this class mm hmm, based upon some of the
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: safety depth issues from that, depending upon your viewpoint. So
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: maybe a third maybe a third safety in this class
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be a bad idea, Or a cheetah in this
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: class wouldn't be a bad idea. Someone who could play both.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: So that the guy, the guy I'm keeping an eye
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: on is a Gideon Gash from Michigan, the six foot four,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: two hundred pound cornerback who ran a four three five
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: at the same Polynesian Combine event that our friend Wolfgrim
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: was discovered at. Yep, Gideon was at that and ran
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: some ridiculous time at six four, two hundred pounds. You
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: watch his film and he could be a safety cheetah
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: for us. That will be that's that's the guy you want.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: So that's those are the way you get to use
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: your scholarship. Those are the wild cards. Do you go
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: three linebackers, but if you can get Gideon Gash, you
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: you go all out for that kid because he would
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: be a difference maker, potential difference maker in this defense.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: That kind of speed and he could easily be saying
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: he's got a huge frame. He could be six four
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: two twenty playing safety slash cheetah for you and that
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: with that kind of speed and coverage skills, that's that
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, yeah to me. You just show him tape
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: of Kendall Daniels first, just say okay this, if you
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: decide you want, we can get you up to wait
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: and keep your speed two forty at six y four boom.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: You can be this guy or so Isaiah Simmons tape
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: and say, at your athleticism, you could be this dude
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: that was at Clemson that was all over the place
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: and they just moved him in places that was crazy.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: He's such a he's a long shot, but no, I'm
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: with you on him. He's one that I've been eyeballing
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: for a while of He's a very nice I would
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: like to have type. Like It makes me think about
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: all of the the giant secondary players that that Alabama's
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: playing with right now. Right like, they got a couple
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: of corners that are six' four and it's like that's,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: stupid but they're athletic enough and they're good.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: Enough john let the other guy HAS.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I Think carmel. O'Neil, yeah they're just transferreding From. Mercer
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: they they picked up two. Guys they got two guys sixty.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: FOUR i guess. SHEESH i would like. That can we do?
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: That but, yeah we need To we definitely need to
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: FIND i like to find more of. That, PERSONALLY i
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: would like to get a couple more of those big.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Guy we need to have the big, cheetah something that
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: we haven't gotten in a. While besides through the. Portal,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: NOW i guess the bigger question is does it make
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: more sense to get a bigger one out of the
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: portal or should you go after a. RECRUIT i think
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: that's kind of where now the question, lies because to,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: me it feels like finding a guy that is a
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: little bit more, established that's, bigger bringing in seems to
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: seems to be maybe a, better better set. Up, besides
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: of COURSE rp three he's your standard type, cheata But
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: i'm talking about the bigger. Cheetahs your your six four,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Six i've got. It you want hitting or? Whatnot and
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: and you and C. Tg it's funny you want more
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: one more tight end in this. CLASS i tell you
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: every room he is fairly young for being quite, honest
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: BUT i do expect them to get one more tight.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: End twenty eight is Where i'm wondering if we go
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: deep in tight.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Ends, well they Want Rich james who visited From. Missouri
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: he already. Visited he has some. Connection his sister is
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: on the rowing team this, fall so we have a
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: family connection. There connor Ar Rent connor A rent From,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: bixby just visited last. Week he's a six foot, six
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: two thirty pound tight. End right now For. Bixby and
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: then Obviously Brett brady is somebody WHO i, think, oh
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: you should. Offer we'll see if that. Happens and he's
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: he's six six two forty two forty five right. Now
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: so that's three tight. ENDS i, think, oh you could
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: be heavily involved.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: With and if they could get two of those, guys
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: that would be.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: GREAT i mean, BEFORE i mean Before winton was, HIRED
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: i Thought Tyler ruxx was is going to have to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: play because we are so devoid of any talent at tight.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: End now you can probably red shirt him because because
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: of the three guys you, got so now you can
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: red shirt. Him he's not the most he's not clearly
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: the most talented guy in the room any, longer so
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: now you could red shirt, him so that. Helps and
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: obviously Writer mix will probably red shirt just because of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: his injury and his high school, injury though his rehabs
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: going well with, That so, yeah you could go one
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: tight end in twenty, seven especially if It's Seneca driver
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: who's gonna, play not gonna red, SHIRT i, mean he's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: he's he's already six seven forty so he's gonna. Play
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: SO i think you could go one tight. End BUT
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: i Think Ben kohler is somebody they really. Want obviously
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: he's not as tall as his, brothers but if you
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: can get him that that would make a lot of.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: Sense just keep adding to the tight end, room keep,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: it keep it.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: Going SO i don't think if they don't Get Ben,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: KOHLER i think they go one tight end at. LINEBACKER
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: i think this injury stuff at linebacker has me wondering
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: if they try and we'll try and find a third
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: linebacker if they miss out in Case, alexander but we'll
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: see how the numbers are. Go AND i like the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: fact that they're going six offensive Lineman chris K chris
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: will tell you, That, yeah constantly bugging him about. That
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: we need more offensive, Line we need more offensive. Line
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: SO i love the six player. CLASS i love the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: well we did a special In Isaac kafferin when he
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: verbal loved that pick. Up but, YEAH i think when you're,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: there when you're talking twenty, seven you, know the question
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: is how many guys are you going to? Go thirty?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Players because they're at twenty now twenty one we believe
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: committed as another five. GUYS i think they lean on that.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Already puts you at like twenty, Six you know you
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: do you leave some powder dry for this fall in case.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: You're having a great season to try and flip some.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Kids that is a good. Question that's actually WHAT i
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: was curious. About if this team goes on a pretty
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: big run and gets eleven and, one do you try
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: to flip some dudes late in the season or are
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: you satisfied with what you got and you stick to
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: what you? Have that is actually What i'm actually very curious.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: About and when it comes offensive, LINE i agreed that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: we're bringing in AND i hate to say, This i'm
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and put this out. There we're bringing
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: in a bigger class because we're probably gonna clean, up
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: clean out a lot of people on the offensive line
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: at the end of the, season just guys that have
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: not really moved forward like Some Marion harris is let
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: me see A Marion. Harris Mike loa And Gunner allen
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: are your only three seniors on the. Line that's a
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: lot of other linemen on this. Roster from there kind
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: of feels like you And fasucio Epl and And osidah's
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: those four should most likely play next season on the.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: Line now you just need technically a sinner that you
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: want to row.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: With.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: UH i Think Peyton joseph is gonna make an argument
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: to get on the. Field i've been hearing really good
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: things about. Him so with that being, said do you
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: start seeing some players transition? Out that's kind of what
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: makes sense of going with a bigger, class because you've
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: got to prepare yourself just in case you're gonna lose some.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: People, YEAH i think you're always gonna the. Tension the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: tension there is gonna. Be you know you're gonna lose
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: a couple of. FOLKS i, MEAN i think pretty confident
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: as much AS i can be to say That Cooper
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: hackett And Kayden, panny you're not gonna red.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: Shirt they're can enroll on negative enroll early.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Exactly they're not gonna red.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: Shirt they're. There you are prepping them to be. In
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: you're too deep for the following.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: YEAR i see What i'm.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Saying that means that you're probably cleaning out some of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: the other pieces of debt and you're gonna need. MORE
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: i think the biggest thing With hackett And penny is
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: gonna be what's their weight like when they come in
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: that's the time that.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: They're ready pretty much two ninety And pennies to ninety.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Two so, right, Well i'm more so body, composition right
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: like if it's if it's maybe, fat because that Was foget's.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Problem is if you look At hackett playing, basketball it's
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: it's a it's a pretty lean looking six.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: Eight two ninety and that's.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Fair so that's very.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: Fair. Penny RECENTLY i Saw penny Saw pennies and At,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: bixby and he was he's playing defensive. Line he doesn't
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: look like he's got a lot of a bad lot
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: of bad weight when he's when he's playing both sides
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: of the. Ball so we'll. See but those, guys and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: obviously you, Know schmidt And best are getting really good.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Reviews, Hmm so, yeah those are gonna play those.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Too you know the one the one wild, card you,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: know last wildcard about recruiting and this freshman class and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: all this is what is the five is is the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: five year eligibility thing going to be in place before
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: the fall or is the nine game red shirt season
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: going to be in place before the, fall because that
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: changes both of, those you, Say Bo, bentley you know
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: the four, games it could be nine, games or it
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: could be he has five years of playing, eligibility so
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about it at. All and
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: especially with some of the guys over you, has Like
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: Derek johnson and Markel, Ford, right if you can play
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: those guys this fallen and accelerate their development, curve that helps.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: You from the secondary, Perspective Nico jandras had a good
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: spring because he's been healthy and he's on the, field
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: so that's helped at. Safety and he also projects maybe
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: it cheated down the, road to be honest when you
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: look at his high school, Film so you, KNOW i
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: think that's a that's a wild card there is what
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: what what is the NCAA's final.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Eligibility ruling about players this?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Fall and what do?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: They what are? They what do? They what's the new
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: terra firmer there pretending, exists which maybe leads.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: To, yeah the last piece, right eligibility.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: Kind of teeing up my, Colleague good, job good.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: JOB i like.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: THAT i like the way you put it right there
• 1:06:10
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• 1:06:12
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• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: be And, chris you talked about this on the last live,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: stream was really, good had kind of you dug into
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: it and kind of kind of laid it down for.
• 1:06:45
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  Speaker 2: Go, okay that looks. Good hopefully everybody can see. That
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  Speaker 2: SO i tweeted this out the other, day, uh just
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  Speaker 2: to just to make sure THAT i BECAUSE i was, like,
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  Speaker 2: DANG i forgot the whole point of this right, here
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  Speaker 2: because nobody is necessarily talking about. This if you just
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: focus on the case, itself you focus on more word. Injunction,
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  Speaker 2: okay these are the. Factors, okay there's a difference now
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  Speaker 2: we say four key. Factors there's a difference between factors
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  Speaker 2: and elements. Elements if these were just the elements you,
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  Speaker 2: needed then you could satisfy one or two of, them
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  Speaker 2: and you can get them most of the. Time when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to the work, factors you have to satisfy
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  Speaker 2: all four of. These, Right, so giving you a condemn
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  Speaker 2: version of this right, here we see a reparable. Horn
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  Speaker 2: we see the moving party must show that they will
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  Speaker 2: suffer imminent non speculative injury that money damages cannot actually.
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  Speaker 2: Compensate this kind of goes to the initial argument THAT i.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: Saw you know a lot of YouTubers like ourselves talk
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: about the timing of this right. Filing its so close
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  Speaker 2: to THE, nfl to the combine and all the rest
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: of that, stuff and also THE nfl, draft right that's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: coming up here. Soon, Right so you think about, that
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: you think, about, hey this could potentially be less money
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  Speaker 2: that he can make right than what he would be
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  Speaker 2: able to make here in, college mainly because of whatever
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: he's going to be, projected his grades and all the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: rest of that. Stuff so there's arguments there with the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: irreparable Horm there's also other, arguments But i'm grouping those
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: and kind of the other. Places, right let's skip down
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: to the balance of hardships and. Equities the court ways
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: potential harm to the plane at fifty injunction is denied
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: against the potential burden on the defendant if it is.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Granted so here is WHERE i lined out the Whole you,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: know red, shirt, right the red shirt is At ohio
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: stateis in. Question, Jay LIKE i said earlier this, week he.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Played he played fifteen minutes of that season that was
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: still technically affected BY covid. Protocols, NOW i Asked Chris.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: Mason So Chris mason already knows, this But i'll ask you.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Too how many games are typically played in A big
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: ten lacrosse.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: SEASON i THINK i had been digging this, up but
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: of course my memory just slipped me because last time
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: looked at it was months. Ago i'm gonna say they
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: played twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Games they played fourteen.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Games, oh, okay so just two more than college didn't, Football.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: So what was the record Of Ohio state that year
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: four and? Seven that tell you eleven games of that,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: Season so there's an argument there as. Well the reason
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: WHY i bring that up is because technically he didn't
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: even play a full season of. That so you got
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: to go back to the question of being what there's
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: some mystery around that whole red shirt year, there, Right
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: but also to flipping on its, head you still have
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: the red shirt season that he hadn't owe, You so
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: you go to the constant rule. CHANGES i think this
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: is Where Chris mason had the most hintrigue with WHAT
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: i was talking about the other. Night you have all
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: these different rules that. Apply you have the twenty eighteen
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: to twenty nineteen rule that was just for college football
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: players where they could have that fifth year of, eligibility
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: the WHOLE covid protocol, year all the restless. Stuff you
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: have all these different rule. Changes don't even get me
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: started on the Whole Jared bernhardt example THAT i gave
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: the other night as. Well. People Jared bernhardt one basically
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: the the he played lacrosse At maryland for four. Years,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: okay he won what would be considered a heisman in
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: college football in that. Sport he played a fifth, year
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: but he played. Football he transferred To, Fairris state of all. Places,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Right So Jared, bernhardt why did he transfer?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: There was he?
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Injured could he just, not you, know do? Anything, no he.
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  Speaker 2: Graduated he wanted to go essentially to fulfill a life
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: a lifelong goal of his and his dads to play college.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: Football guy rest his dad's. Soul but that was the
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: point of going. There so he used the N c
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: double a's five for four rule basically to where or?
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Five what DID i call?
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: It give me a. Second it is The it is
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  Speaker 2: the five year clock. Rule so that allows student athletes
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: to compete in four seasons of a of a sport
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: within a five year period with their initial full time.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Enrollment athletes often used their remaining eligibility to play a different,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: sport commonly, football after graduating or exhausting eligibility and their
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: primary sports such as. Lacrosse so, again, people What i'm
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: trying to illustrate to you guys is a simple fact
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  Speaker 2: that these rules continue to change and there's an unequal,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: distribution or it's just an uneven, balance that's a better
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: way to put. It with how the rules apply to,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: everybody not even touching on the fact that you've had
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: kids go, back go back and forth from the. Pros,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: hell you just had another kid that never played in THE,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: nba never went to, college but he went to THE
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: G league and now has just committed To. Providence so
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: you have a lot of different. ISSUES i think That
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Jared bernhardt is probably the key example in this. Case
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: if our, attorney that's WHAT i would. Do but when
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: you go to the public and, factor it really just
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: depends on the simple fact of does the court believe
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: that this message with the integrity of the, game as
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: THE nc DOUBLE a has so eloquently put it in other, cases,
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  Speaker 2: right meaning that, oh you're allowing the other players just
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: to come back just because they want, this or whatever
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: the case may. Be but when you go to the
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: likelihood success of success on the Merits Jane Chris, MASON
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: i would, say right, here it really boils down to
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: what their central arguments, are which is What henikey is.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Saying henucky is, arguing excuse. Me henicky is arguing that
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: there were circumstances beyond his. Control THE nc DOUBLE a is, saying,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: no it was all within his control because he had
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  Speaker 2: four offers in, particular he had made.
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  Speaker 4: He had what was it army he had in that.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: And he HAD ucl right. Then but when you think
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: about it, AGAIN covid is so so critical to this.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Argument if you asked me for the simple fact, that
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: again he was a freshman in twenty twenty, one going
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: into that twenty twenty one, season it was still a
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: little bit, unknown mainly BECAUSE covid was still affecting people's
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: state to state and district and district county to county
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: however you want to go about. It everybody had their
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: own rules of how they were going to going to do.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: Stuff he played fifteen minutes of a season that wasn't
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: even a full lacrosse. Season, SEE i was circling back
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: to that. Then, also you gotta wonder did that affect
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: his ability to be recruited? Properly was he able to
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: go to? Camps was he able to do certain? THINGS i,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Mean Trevon henderson never even made it down here. HILL
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: i Think Ohio. State a lot of kids were just
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: showing up to different. PLACES i remember people talking about
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: what The Clayton smith kid is At Arizona. State, NOW
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: i was just happy that this kid actually looked six.' five,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: it was, you know something that they can work on
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: when the staff. Got HERE so i think there were
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of circumstances that were beyond his control and
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: that did affect him potentially being able to go and
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: walk on at SOMEWHERE like ohu or whatever the case.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: May BE and I Know chris bason addison commentary to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: that the other night because that just wasn't really a
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: possibility at. That time so twenty twenty and twenty, twenty
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: one those. Are, issues also what ties to that twenty
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: twenty one year is the simple fact that that's When
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: The jared bernhard kid he Transferred To fairris state and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: won a. National. Championship right so you sit there and you,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: just SAY when i look at, THE case i know
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: there's been other people, who, SAID well i don't know
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: if it's this. CLEAR cut i don't think it's. Necessarily
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: clearcut BUT what i would say IS that i Would
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: feel i'm. Sixty forty i'm sixty forty on, that right Leaning,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: towards honike like guys that some of, YOU guys i
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: haven't been on channel in a. Long time so if
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: you guys don't, Know me hornstown, podcast OBVIOUSLY but i am,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: a lawyer SO when i look at the ARGUMENTS that
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: i present, or whatnot kind of lean. Sixty forty it
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: just depends on how what is the court's temperament, towards
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: this because there's a lot of missing variables in, this
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: case mainly because you're not going to be able to
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: enter to have a lot of, witnesses testify which would
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: be critical. To this but if you, ASK me i
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: think the, biggest question that, the biggest, the biggest one
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: of the biggest hurdles that he needs To that honikey
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: has to be able to jump. Over early is just
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: the mystery or the intrigue or the mystique around that
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: whole red Shirt At. Ohio, state yeah, it exists needs
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: to he needs to flip the whole with circumstances beyond.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: My control but by BASICALLY saying covid and other things
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: prohibited me from getting you KNOW what, i wanted you
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: guys are calling it because it's, not Equal Like chris,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: mason said Going to navy or going. To army that's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: that's a. Bit different BUT also i think that one
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: thing that could definitely sell this home is just a
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: simple fact that the rules have constantly changed over and.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: Over again we have a new rule to basically allow
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: players just to play five years now in college that
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: you guys are just talking about and it's just a
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: simple fact that he's been caught up in and now
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: none of it applies. To him but you've allowed other
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: players to, actually graduate be a four year letterman on
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: a ON a d, one, team right and then still
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: go and play football right, somewhere else play a different sports.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: Somewhere ELSE so i think that there is a there's,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: uneven access, there's unequal. UNEVEN barriers i just think that
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: it's it's a lot THAT the NC double a is
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: going to have to. Account for SO again i lean.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: Sixty forty it could go the, other way could be.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Very wrong but at the, SAME time i kind of
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Feel like henikey has a lot of a lot of
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: things really to bring to the table as far as
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: to offer as. An argument so it's it's hard to
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: see the judge the court go. Against it but again,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: they could, they could but he has a. Stronger case in,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: my opinion this is no bias. OU aside i put
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: the ou hat off and put the lawyer. Hat on
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: but he has a, stronger case and, Damn Sure aguilar
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: aguilars was just straight up and just trying to, come,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: back right, but.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: Well it's a, MONEY hey i need to come back and.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: Make money what you look.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: At that that was similar To The diego pavia, argument
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: too with the juco component. Of it and the unfortunate
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Thing for aguilar was is the local the local attorney
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: was a local judge, was, Like nah, I'm good i'm
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: not getting.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: In this but when you, look well when you look
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: at the chambers and it's my last point, for now
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: but when you look at the, Chandler's case chamberlain's had
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of things around that. As well and the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: whole thing was WAS that i don't think that he
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: would he was all. THE way i don't think he
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: was one. THOUSAND percent i know a lot of people
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: are final with one. HUNDRED percent i like to try
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: to be in that one thousand Percent because i'm somewhat of,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: A perfectionist. I guess But what i'm saying IS that
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: i don't think that he was all the way convincing with,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: the whole with clearing up the, whole, mystique, intrigue drama
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: and mystery, et cetera, et cetera around what was what
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: should have been his red shirt year or whatever with
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: the whole, you know collapse, long er whatever the, thing
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: was the injury that he, you know claimed that he
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: had there. Or WHATNOT but i think this one right
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: here is kind of a little bit more clear cut than,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: that CASE and i think it's a little bit of a,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: stronger argument mainly because what the NC double a is
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: truly challenging this is that there were all the circumstances
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: that he has claimed that his petition and so on and,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: so forth they were in. HIS control i just don't
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: know how you sit there and say a seventeen eighteen
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: year old kid can control all the things that were
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: happening when we were in a global pandemic and we
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: were on the heels. Of it but at the, same
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: time whether you believe it, or not it affected everybody in.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: Some, Way, YEAH no i agree with. YOU there i
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: think the other argument that he's going to have in.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: THIS case i talked about this a couple times, as
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: well IS the ncaa in twenty twenty four began exploring
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to change the red shirt rule for spring
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: sports to mirror the fall sports because football was the
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: only sport that actually had the thirty. Percent, rule initially basketball,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: got it and they were talking about allowing that as
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: well for spring sports because spring sports is a baseball
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: lacrosse didn't even have a red. Shirt rule they just
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: don't even think. About them they just completely. Excluded them but,
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: like baseball if you go in for, an inning go
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: in for a just any moment, in baseball your eligibility
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: is gone for, that season right like that That gets.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: Basketball is still. THE same i thought basketball was still
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: it was an. Exhibition game you can't any minute you
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: play it.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Burns it yeah it is winner is. Exact same oh yeah,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: that one, That one uh yeah them. As. Well, basketball
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: basically the argument that the nc that that was made
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: AT the ncaa AND the ncaaa was looking at in
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four was because only just stepping on the
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: court the field in a regular season immediately, takes out
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: no matter how many minutes takes. You eligibility they were
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: looking at allow changing that rule to align with football
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: because football is the only one that has the thirty,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: percent rule which is.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: Three.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: Games Right, uh so if if says they're exploring that
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: now they're exploring the five and five five for. Five
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: model that's a great argument to have right there. In court, but,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: like well y'all been talking about changing this for years
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: and you've yet to change it for. The players why
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: not if you had change this when you said you
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: were gonna change it in, twenty two, twenty three all
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: these years you were, exploring it we wouldn't be here.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: Right now this whole conversation would, be moot and we
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: would not even have to have a reason to be
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: here to. Discuss This like joey akilar'siggest problem is He,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: played juko so that kind of throws a wrench in
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: everything he. Was doing paveya got his one year in
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: injunction and he's not gonna get to come back a.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Second time they're not gonna he's not gonna win a
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: second case. On that no judge is probably gonna touch
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: that and, be like, hey man you, got one we
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: can't give you. Both years juco. Does count, It's football,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: SO yeah i think that that Would, Help eric but
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: once that that rule, fully changes then you're gonna you'll see.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: That Piece, but chris thank you so much for topping
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: the legal components. Of it speaking, of which just wrap
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: this up with This piece owen if he does or
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't get. His case do You think oklahoma jumps into
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: the synthetic portal of the spring and go find one
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: of the leftover port chops that's out there ready to
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: play some Footballs.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: And i'll let. You, Go.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: Well i've BEEN thinks i think it's pointless to add.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: A linebacker our schemes, too complex, no one no one
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: can really help us. This fall i'd rather Bet On
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: marcus james getting healthy And the bashman or The baththirst
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: Kid Or christian more helping. Helping them i'd rather bet
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: ON that o line would be the ONLY area i
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: would say if depending upon how, spring ends if you
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: if there's a gem. FLOATING around, I mean texas just
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: added a guy like two weeks ago in the middle of.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: Spring practice but the guy hadn't played for like, TWO years,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: i Think and i'm not sure what he, really adds
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: but that that tells you what you need to Know
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: ABOUT texas's o line depth that they when they hadn't added.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: That guy so that would be the ONLY position i would,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: based upon, you know everything, being equal how we end.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: UP healthwise i think if there's a if there's A
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: quality o line guy with a couple of years, OF
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: eligibility i might pull the trigger. On that that's about
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: the ONLY guy I would that's the, only synthetic, you
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: know that's the only. Portal guy there's a guy who
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: just got declared ELIGIBLE that i don't remember, his name
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: that floated By the apparently there's some interest in some
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: different schools. About him but, YOU know i. Don't know
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: that's that's the ONLY position i would say if you're
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: looking at, you know the number one meekness on this
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: team is probably the second starting five off on the. Offensive,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: line YEAH but I think i think that's true for
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: everybody in. College football nobody has a true two deep
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: veteran offensive line any longer. FIVE guys, i mean we got.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: Six guys If the netta guy gets healthy, at center
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: that gives. Us seven so we're really just looking For, Either,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: Hinton peyton Joseph Or alfa lava to step up and
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: give us like eight, guys really Or or Schmidt. OR
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: best i mean we Got. Hurt daniel Someone MENTIONED. Daniel
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: uk obviously he's, he's out. He's here it Was. An
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: ACHILLES so i don't think he's coming back, this year
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: which is a big BLOW because i think he could
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: have really helped second team on the second team the.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: Offensive LINE so i think that's the only place is
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: if you take an honest look at your second team
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: offensive line and don't think that you can get to,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: that seven that eight or nine reliable guys with what
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: you have. On CAMPUS but I Think deacon schmidt know.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: The best one of those guys probably can get you
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: there after.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: The summer i'm kind of CURIOUS when i, asked that because.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: What what?
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: I'm there there was a there's, a lineman Uh. From
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: bigsby he's Not, from bigsby but he Played at bigsby
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: and he Went. To auburn he hit. THE portal i
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: don't think he has a.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: Home yet does he's still not have.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: A home i don't think he has a home. AT
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: all i haven't seen anything about him having. A home
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: so kind of curious that he's still. OUT there i
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: think he's still. Out there, oh no he's He's, Uh Broderick.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: Broderick shole He's At oregon. State now he just enrolled Here.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: In april, so literally like a couple, weeks ago a,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: week ago that's seven. Days ago he Went To, oregon
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: sea which is crazy, to ME but i mean. Four, STAR.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah i mean something went wrong with him at Clem
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: at auburn that that That doesn't auburn obviously did not
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: give him a very good review going out the door
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: because no one touched. NO one I Mean oregon state is,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: YOU know i don't want to Trash, the beavers but
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: they're they're not exactly.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: When they have a new coaching staff, again too, so yeah.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: It's it's not exactly, high highest, BUT yeah i DON'T
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: think i mean you want you need somebody who can be,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: you know a top eight or top a top eight
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: or top nine. Offensive linemen if you can, find, That
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: great BUT otherwise i bet on, our development our oline
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: development with guys Like a lava who more longer he
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: gets away from that, knee injury getting a little better,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: shape maybe or somebody Like no A best Or Or
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: deacon schmidt is, like said You've. Got Ozetta if, netta's
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: healthy he's your, backup center Which gives ozetta the, guard
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: position so you just need. To tackle You need joseph or.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: He's makes. Some progress WE'LL see.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: I don't i've not.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: HEARD that i, Don't, think, HEY guard i haven't heard much.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: At center, that's yeah, well.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah we'll SEE if, i mean, we'll see but if,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: you know but it sounds to me it Sounds like
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: Schmidt and best have kind of jump some guys already at.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: This point so. We'll see but that's that's THAT'S what i.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: WOULD go, i mean we don't need a. Defensive tackle
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: we don't need a defensive. END linebacker i don't know
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: how you bring anybody in this late that can really
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: help with how sophisticated that defense is and what he
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: requires linebackers linebackers, to do same thing, at. Safety right,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: you know if You're, a brent you don't really want
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: to be in the portal for safety line or. Or
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: linebackers you want that to.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Be, homegrown, YEAH no i agree with you. On that
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: maybe you go find yourself a big if you see
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: if do you get lucky to find, a big, cheating
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: yeah big cheetah under radar guy at linebacker that people aren't,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: you know paid too much. Attention to, you know you
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: may go run a flyer on somebody and see what
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: they do in. Fall camp and we.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: Don't need a. Tight, end certainly we don't need a.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: Wide receiver it's not like last year we, were like
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: do we need a wide Receiver because jays? GOT hurt
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: i mean You got Pete And manny Choice and living
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: Stunned And. Jeremichael carter we gotta have big wide receivers
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: in the small seems like we got enough speed at.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: Wide receivers so running back looks okay if if you're getting,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: you know extra getting hurt again wasn't, exactly ideal but,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: You kind of needed to send.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: Them.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: ANYWAY probably I mean dylan McCullum, mentioned, that, yeah sitting
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: he really likes to rest his running backs that are
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: going to be starring that that he Knows that i'm the. Feature,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: back yeah no reason in the play all every. Single
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: down that's kind of a kind of. A waste when
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: why why take away their hits that they're gonna they
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: can take right if you've already seen them.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 4: Perform, Good, hey chris is there one position you would
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: try and take a flyer on? A guy.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: You kind, of yeah you threw a curveball my way
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: that was that was a big. Time knuckleball IT'S like
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: i didn't think about it, like that, you know taking, another,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: linebacker like, you know just because. Of THAT so i
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: think you'll be fine.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: Kind of Just if owen Loses, on thursday do you
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: try and get? A linebacker.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: It, just, depends honestly.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: When you get.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: The names, if that if that weren't where to be,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: the case if you get, the names then you know
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: me and you will definitely be breaking down the field
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: trying to. Figure, out okay it's just somebody we could.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: TAKE it, I mean I just I just i don't
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: mean that way because of the injuries to hind To
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: carry Jan Throw, joe jandro.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: That was.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: It, that yeah, he's young they're, all, freshmen right you,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: got him You Got, christian, MOORE right i mean you'd
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: lose two with With jan Drow, and Curry so jander
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: might be back in.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: The fall i'm just getting a little concerned about his
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: injury history from high school now. Into college i'm, just,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: like okay, you Know Obviously marcus james could make all,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: this mute, you know could make the point moved by,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: you know by having the blue jersey off and making
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: some tackles in the. Spring game and, we're like who is, That,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: kid Well That's marcus james who's running around. Making plays,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: SO yeah i think that would Be, THE again I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: just i Just think. Brent's system maybe there is some
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: guy with like a Master's and brent linebacker degree, out
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: there who's some six year players somewhere who you could.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: Bring in, YOU know.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: I.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: DON'T think i.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: Don't think godwin has a kid Like Like ted, rufe's
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: kid who probably would have helped us if he hadn't.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Gotten hurt but, YOU know i. JUST don't i just
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: don't see with, his scheme how you how you can
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: bring somebody in this lake that's really gonna.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: Help, YOU yeah i agree with you. ON that, i
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: MEAN like, i said you get lucky occasionally finding Like
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: A kendall daniels type player that can figure things out
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: through the spring. OR whatnot, i mean there's an occasional
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: you just gotta wait and see if something like. That
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: EXISTS but i don't think. So either, all right let's
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: go ahead and wrap this up with a bowl. On.
• 1:31:15
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• 1:32:57
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• 1:32:59
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• 1:33:01
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• 1:33:03
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