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Fair Territory: Can LA Force Game 7? Blue Jays 1 Win from World Series Title + New Manager Moves · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to a special Friday edition of Fair Territory,
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Speaker 1: a special Halloween edition of Fair Territory, and most importantly,
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Speaker 1: the Game six World Series Edition of Fair Territory. I'm
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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with my friend Alana Rizzo. We are
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Speaker 1: going to talk all things World Series and get into
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Speaker 1: some other things as well. Alana, good afternoon.
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Speaker 2: How are you good afternoon? Always good to be with
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Speaker 2: you on this Friday. Ken, is your schedule is bananas
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Speaker 2: because of the World Series. But let's talk about Game six.
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Speaker 2: If you're gonna have a guy on the hill, Ken
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Speaker 2: for the Dodgers, you want it to be Yoshinobu Yamamoto.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and back to back complete games in the postseason,
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Speaker 1: something that has not been done since Kurt Shilling for
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Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks in two thousand and one. He threw three straight. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers need him to be really good. Again, this
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Speaker 1: is an elimination game. This is it. But the other
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Speaker 1: part of this is, even if you can count on
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Speaker 1: Yamamoto to be really good, I don't know that you
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Speaker 1: can count on him to pitch a complete game. That's
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Speaker 1: a lot to ask. And then you have the bull
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Speaker 1: coming into play and most important you have their offense
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Speaker 1: coming into play, and that's been the concern here. And
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Speaker 1: it's interesting, Alana. You know this because you follow the
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Speaker 1: Dodgers so closely. Their offense has been in and out
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Speaker 1: all season and right now it's out again. They need
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Speaker 1: to find it somehow. And granted they're facing great pitching.
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Speaker 1: You Savage was brilliant in Game five, but here they
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Speaker 1: are against Kevin Gossman. Tonight, Dave Roberts hinted at additional
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Speaker 1: lineup changes. We'll see what happens. They drop Mooky to
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Speaker 1: the third spot, move Will Smith up to the second spot.
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Speaker 1: Bench pahes for ours call. There's not much more they
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Speaker 1: can do.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, you know what can we keep saying? What is
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Speaker 2: wrong with the Dodgers? Obviously they come into this World
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Speaker 2: Series as the favorites, of course, or the reigning World
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Speaker 2: Series champions, But perhaps we should be asking are the
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Speaker 2: Toronto Blue Jays the better team?
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Speaker 1: That's a fair question based on the way these teams
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Speaker 1: have played now over one hundred and sixty two, they
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Speaker 1: actually were better. They had ninety four wins, the Dodgers
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Speaker 1: had ninety three. And when you watch these teams play
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Speaker 1: against each other, you notice differences. The Blue Jays offense
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Speaker 1: certainly has not had a problem. They are a team
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Speaker 1: that attacks early in the count and they are a
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Speaker 1: team that puts the ball in play, doesn't strike out much.
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Speaker 1: We've been through all of this already and it's been
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Speaker 1: very effective for them, even against better pitching in the postseason. Defensively,
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Speaker 1: there also is a difference, and as I wrote yesterday,
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Speaker 1: that play in right field, that the one the triple
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Speaker 1: that got past Teo by Dalton Barsio and the diving
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Speaker 1: catch Barger made on Otani on a one hundred and
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Speaker 1: seventeen mile per hour shot kind of illustrated the differences
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Speaker 1: between these teams. Defensively, the Dodgers are not as good defensively.
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Speaker 1: They had three wild pitches in that inning as well,
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Speaker 1: that four to run seven. So there's some things going
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Speaker 1: on here. I knew this was gonna happen, And obviously
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Speaker 1: with a they need to play better. They need to
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Speaker 1: get their bullpen if they have to use it into
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Speaker 1: an effective mode, and it's been a problem for them,
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Speaker 1: there's no question about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah can so maybe it's not what is wrong with
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers, Perhaps it's what is right with the Blue
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Speaker 2: Jays as Alar eleven twenty nine brings up so well
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Speaker 2: in our chat by the way, you guys get your
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Speaker 2: questions in for Grill and Ken. You know, one thing
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Speaker 2: can besides the Dodgers being the heavy favorites coming into
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Speaker 2: the series is everything we talked about it on our
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Speaker 2: production call, right, So if we said apples to apples,
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Speaker 2: the teams are the same. The one thing that was
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Speaker 2: different was the experienced level of the Dodgers over the
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Speaker 2: Blue Jays, and not just with the roster, Ken, but
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Speaker 2: with the managers. Dave Roberts has been there, done that.
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Speaker 2: John Schneider kind of learning on the fly but doing
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Speaker 2: a very effective job. It doesn't seem like John Schneider
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Speaker 2: is it's the moment's not too big for him.
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Speaker 1: No, it hasn't been end up. By the way, our
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Speaker 1: producer Mark Wiener said that that's the Dodgers' offense calling.
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Speaker 1: They're probably going to call again. But regardless, the managerial
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Speaker 1: thing is always interesting in the postseason because every decision
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Speaker 1: is under such scrutiny. And John Schneider had a moment
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Speaker 1: in Game five of the ALSS where he did not
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Speaker 1: go to Jeff Hoffman for cal Rawley. He instead went
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Speaker 1: with Brendan Little, and we'll know what happened. Raley hit
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Speaker 1: the tying homer and then they got the big homer
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Speaker 1: from Suarez and the series came back to Toronto with the
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Speaker 1: Blue Jays down three games to two. That was a moment,
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Speaker 1: like the moment with Barrios a few years back, that
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Speaker 1: I think John Schneider learned from, and he has talked
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Speaker 1: about reading situations and reacting and learning on the fly.
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Speaker 1: If you remember the Barrios moment that was scripted right
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Speaker 1: they pulled him, I think it was after three and
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Speaker 1: or the start of the fourth, and it was no good.
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Speaker 1: He was pitching well. It was a silly thing to do,
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Speaker 1: and the front office was involved with that. Schneider took
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Speaker 1: the hit. We all know what happened. Since then, Schneider
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Speaker 1: has evolved and he is taking greater control. He has
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Speaker 1: gained more confidence in his decision making and we've seen
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Speaker 1: that throughout the postseason. Now each manager, every manager in
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Speaker 1: the postseason is still going to do things you question,
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Speaker 1: but they always have their reasons. Sometimes these things work out,
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Speaker 1: sometimes they don't. It's always outcome based. So yes, he
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Speaker 1: has done well and It's interesting too, Dave Roberts, a
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Speaker 1: guy that before last year was really questioned for a
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Speaker 1: number of his decisions in various postseasons. This isn't on him,
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Speaker 1: if you ask me. This is on a team that
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Speaker 1: just is not performing the way it should and that
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Speaker 1: is going to be the key question here. Can the
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Speaker 1: Dodgers show the resilience they showed last year when they
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Speaker 1: were down two to one in the Division Series against
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Speaker 1: the Padres in San Diego, throwing a bullpen game with
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Speaker 1: everything against them? Can this Dodgers team rise up the
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Speaker 1: way that one did? And this team you could certainly
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Speaker 1: say is more talented than that one was. I don't
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Speaker 1: know that they're a better team, though, and that's the
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Speaker 1: question that face here.
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Speaker 2: Ken, Before we move on to the managerial moves in
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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, have two more questions for your regarding this.
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Speaker 2: You talked about the team being perhaps more talented this year,
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Speaker 2: but Ken, they're also aging. Are we not talking about
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Speaker 2: that enough?
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Speaker 1: Well? I mentioned it in my column yesterday, and win
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Speaker 1: or lose this is going to be an issue for
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers. I'm sorry. Freddie Freeman thirty six, Tao Mookie
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Speaker 1: thirty three, you've got other players too. Max Muntzy's thirty
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Speaker 1: five not catastrophic by any of the any means, and
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Speaker 1: certainly Freddy, while not as productive maybe as he was
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Speaker 1: in his prime, is still a highly productive player. But
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Speaker 1: it is a question that they're going to face and
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Speaker 1: as they go to the off season again, no matter
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Speaker 1: what happens here, it's got to be a concern, and
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Speaker 1: it's got to be a concern not just because of
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Speaker 1: the small sample size we're seeing in this World Series,
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Speaker 1: because of what we've seen since the Wildcard round. Their
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Speaker 1: offensive numbers since the Wildcard round as a team are terrible,
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Speaker 1: and what we've seen Alana as we discussed, how they've
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Speaker 1: gone in and out all year offensively. So while they
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Speaker 1: finished second in the majors in run scored, they often
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Speaker 1: didn't look like that kind of team. And that's something that, yes,
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers are going to have at least examine. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how you address it. Maybe you sign Kyle Tucker.
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Speaker 1: That's one answer. He's only going to be twenty nine
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Speaker 1: next year, but it's something that going forward could be
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Speaker 1: an issue for them.
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Speaker 2: Before we move on Ken, how much is the Alex
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Speaker 2: VESSI a factor impacting this team.
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Speaker 1: It's a factor, no question, and they miss him. And
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Speaker 1: of course, if you don't know, he is out with
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Speaker 1: a family emergency, and he was off the roster for
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Speaker 1: this series. But the bullpen has been vexing them really
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Speaker 1: all season. And in this series we don't have Tanner,
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Speaker 1: Scott and Kirby Yates on the roster. They're off the
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Speaker 1: roster making combined eighty five million in total guarantees. That's
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Speaker 1: a problem. They've had Blake trying to not be the
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Speaker 1: same this year, coming off a postseason last year in
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Speaker 1: which he was brilliant but worked really hard. They lost
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Speaker 1: Evan Phillips to Tommy John surgery, and then they traded
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Speaker 1: for one reliever at the deadline blockstro got after four appearances.
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Speaker 1: So their bullpen remains an issue. They've had Saki emerge
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Speaker 1: and that's been great obviously and necessary, but the bullpen, yes,
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Speaker 1: has been a problem area.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Sasaki has kind of been non existent in the
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Speaker 2: World Series as well. All right, let's move on our
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Speaker 2: focus here on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. There have
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Speaker 2: been some managerial postings Ken, and there are still three
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Speaker 2: teams that need a skipper. Let's start with the Washington Nationals.
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Speaker 2: They hired Blake Uta, a thirty three year old, as
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Speaker 2: their newest manager. What do you know about him?
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Speaker 1: I don't know much about him. I don't know that
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Speaker 1: anyone does. And he was a thirty fifth round pick
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Speaker 1: by Tampa Bay in twenty fifteen. He was the youngest
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Speaker 1: manager in the Miners twenty eighteen, and then became the
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Speaker 1: Race senior director of player development in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 1: He's obviously a guy who is extremely well thought of
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Speaker 1: by the Rays and by the rest of the industry.
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Speaker 1: The Nationals new head of baseball operations, Paul Deboni, came
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Speaker 1: from the Red Sox and he knew about Blake but Terra,
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Speaker 1: so this is why they went in that direction. And
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Speaker 1: then we've had also the hiring of Tony Vitello in
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Speaker 1: San Francisco from college. That's a rarity in baseball. This
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Speaker 1: guy is a rarity in baseball. My phone is ringing again.
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Speaker 1: And the one point I want to make here, Derek
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Speaker 1: Shelton by the Twins. That was more of a traditional hire,
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Speaker 1: right Derek Shelton had managed Pittsburgh, he figured he would
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Speaker 1: get another chance. I'm not sure the teams here are
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Speaker 1: not getting too cute, and we'll see this all plays out.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Tony Vitello is great, maybe Blake but Terra is great.
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Speaker 1: But I just wonder with Danny Lehman, the Dodgers bench coach,
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Speaker 1: getting a lot of play with the Braves too, he
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Speaker 1: seemingly could be a front runner for that job. What
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Speaker 1: are we doing here. Brandon Hyde, who was a very
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Speaker 1: successful manager with Baltimore, is sitting out there and seemingly
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Speaker 1: not getting a shot. David Ross pretty successful with her,
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Speaker 1: certainly like Hyde deserving of another chance, and hey, he's
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Speaker 1: not getting a chance. So these teams are coming up
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Speaker 1: with these fancy ideas and everybody's trying to reinvent the wheel. Fine,
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Speaker 1: if it works, great, But at the same time, I
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Speaker 1: always wonder with baseball now if teams do try to
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Speaker 1: get too cute, and they do it in other areas
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Speaker 1: besides this one. We'll see how this all plays out
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Speaker 1: for all of these guys.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned Derek Shelton going now to the Twins, and
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Speaker 2: no disrespect to either guy, but ken is Derek Shelton
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Speaker 2: Rocobaldelli two point zero? How do they differ?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, And certainly Shelton did not have success
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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. That goes beyond him, obviously, it goes to
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Speaker 1: the owner, it goes to the general mager. You see
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Speaker 1: his record there. I don't know that you can put
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Speaker 1: much on this on him at all for that. But
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Speaker 1: at the same time, the twins are a team that
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Speaker 1: you would think maybe would take a different tactic, or
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Speaker 1: maybe woulds hire a Brandon Hide or David Ross, and
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Speaker 1: yet they're going to a guy that they're real familiar with.
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Speaker 1: He used to be in the organ and maybe that's
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Speaker 1: the key here. But if you're asking how much different
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Speaker 1: is he than Rockeballdellhi, we're going to find out. I
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Speaker 1: can't imagine he's much different. But I always do like managers,
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Speaker 1: not all of them, but a lot of them who
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Speaker 1: get second chances because they learn in the first job
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Speaker 1: things that they didn't really know, didn't really understand, and
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Speaker 1: they get a better grasp of for the second job.
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Speaker 1: That's why I think Hyde and Ross are worthy of
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Speaker 1: another look, because they would be better in many ways
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Speaker 1: this time around than they were the last time.
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Speaker 2: Well, they certainly have more experience. And even when I
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Speaker 2: saw but Terra's name and congratulations to Blake I thought
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Speaker 2: it was Drew. I knew nothing about Blake Terra, so
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Speaker 2: it's interesting to see how that's all going to pan
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Speaker 2: out for the Washington Nationals. All right, get those questions
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Speaker 2: All right, it is time now for Grill and Ken.
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Speaker 2: We're going to get those questions in from the YouTube chat.
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Speaker 2: The first one is from armand is amazing. Always good
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Speaker 2: to have him. He's a big contributor here on fair territory. Ken,
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Speaker 2: who are the front runners for the three remaining managerial
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Speaker 2: job open England? For those that don't know, it's who
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Speaker 2: is it? Ken? It's the Rockies, the Padres and the Braves.
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Speaker 1: Correct, that's right? That is right? A lot and front runners.
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Speaker 1: It's always tricky because you don't know exactly what's going on.
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Speaker 1: And I'll start with the Braves in this regard. It's
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Speaker 1: been reported that Danny Lehman, the Dodgers bench coach, is
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Speaker 1: a leading name for the Braves, if not the front
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Speaker 1: runner Alexanthopolis. The head of baseball operations generally operates under
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Speaker 1: the radar, So when a name gets out with him
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Speaker 1: regarding a free agent, a trade, or now a managerial hiring,
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Speaker 1: I'm always skeptical that that is actually the name that's
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Speaker 1: going to be there. But they have not made a hire,
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Speaker 1: and maybe they are waiting for the Dodgers to complete
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Speaker 1: the World Series and then they will go and act
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Speaker 1: from there. In San Diego, it seems to be Albert
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Speaker 1: Pouoholes or they're pitching coach Ruben Diebla. Those are the
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Speaker 1: two names you're hearing most prominently. And in Colorado, we
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Speaker 1: don't know, because Colorado has not hired a head of
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Speaker 1: baseball operations yet. That should be coming any day now.
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Speaker 1: We've reported at The Athletic that the finalists are Diamondback's
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Speaker 1: assistant GM Amaniel Saude and Cleveland Guardian's assistant GM Matt Foreman.
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Speaker 1: Once that is resolved, once they hire one of those guys,
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Speaker 1: that person will then pick the manager. So we seemingly
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Speaker 1: have some idea, but I don't know that we really
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Speaker 1: have a total idea on any of them. San Diego
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Speaker 1: seems to be one of those two guys that I mentioned,
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Speaker 1: but the others I'm not so sure.
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Speaker 2: Ken, out of the three remaining openings, what is the
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Speaker 2: one that should be most coveted. What's the most attractive one?
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Speaker 1: Braves and Padres are both attractive, but the Braves is
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Speaker 1: a little bit more attractive to me because it seems
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Speaker 1: to me that they're going to have a much better
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Speaker 1: year they had it pretty much everything that could go
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Speaker 1: wrong go wrong for them. Anthopolis is not accustomed to
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Speaker 1: having a lack of success, and he's going to be
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Speaker 1: hell bent on making the team better. And it just
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Speaker 1: seems that their roster is really good. Akhun, you will
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Speaker 1: be back. All these things will happen for them. Listen,
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Speaker 1: san Diego's roster is awfully good as well. But they've
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Speaker 1: got a couple of starting pitchers in free agency here,
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Speaker 1: Dylan Cease and Michael King. They've got to redo that
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Speaker 1: there are payroll questions. It's not quite as attractive as
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Speaker 1: the bravest job in my opinion anyway.
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Speaker 2: All right, next question comes from ev Underscore Warrior Ken.
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Speaker 2: If we go to Game seven, should show Hey, oh
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Speaker 2: we're gonna well go go back to the one on
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Speaker 2: the screen, should show Hey o Tawani start. If it
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Speaker 2: goes to game seven, should show Hey start.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's going to be a question that's going to
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Speaker 1: come up. And the reason he would start the game
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Speaker 1: is because when you look at where the Dodgers are
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Speaker 1: and where he is, he will be available for an
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Speaker 1: inning or two. He would almost have to be an opener.
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Speaker 1: So if you're going to use him, you might as
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Speaker 1: well use him as the art of the game when
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Speaker 1: you can keep him in as the DH. If you
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Speaker 1: use him at the end of the game, then you've
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Speaker 1: got to put him in the outfield, and that becomes
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Speaker 1: something he hasn't done, and it's a little bit more problematic.
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Speaker 1: Now I can see show Hey knowing what little we
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Speaker 1: do about him. I can see him wanting to close
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Speaker 1: out the World Series the way he closed out the
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Speaker 1: WBS thing. But it's a safer bet if you want
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Speaker 1: to use him by using him early in the game
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Speaker 1: and at the start of the game and then keeping
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Speaker 1: him in as the DH. Now, Tyler Glass now is
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Speaker 1: lined up for that game? Am I right? Alana? That's
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Speaker 1: Glass now? Game?
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Speaker 2: It is correct?
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Speaker 1: Okay, correct? So you'd have Tyler Glass now you can
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Speaker 1: start him, or you can use a Tani for an
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Speaker 1: inning or two and then go to Glass. Now, as
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Speaker 1: long as that he knew glassdow knew that that was
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Speaker 1: the plan, I don't imagine it would be that disruptive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, we all know this better than anybody can.
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Speaker 2: Is that it's Johnny Holstaff. The second the first guy
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Speaker 2: gets into trouble, here comes everybody else trying to force
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Speaker 2: the issue. All right, justin Antonucci fifty one to eighty.
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Speaker 2: Here's the question, would it surprise you can if a
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Speaker 2: playoff caliber team like the Padres or the Braves in
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Speaker 2: this case, I guess to hire Albert Poolhols, who has
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Speaker 2: no real managerial experience. It doesn't seem like you need
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Speaker 2: didn't have any experience to get these jobs.
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Speaker 1: That's right, And you go back to Aaron Boone. When
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Speaker 1: Aaron Boone was hired, actually I was critical of the
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Speaker 1: move because he had no managerial or coaching experience at
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Speaker 1: any level. He had just been on ESPN and come
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Speaker 1: off the field. And yet it worked out pretty well
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Speaker 1: for Aaron Boone. Regardless of what you think of him lately, overall,
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Speaker 1: the record is good. He certainly has proven he can
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Speaker 1: handle the job. He's not incompetent, despite what some people
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Speaker 1: might believe, so it would be somewhat surprising. But we've
17:39
Speaker 1: seen teams do this now, and we've seen teams reach
17:42
Speaker 1: for less experienced people in that position. Stephen Vote is
17:47
Speaker 1: another great example. Stephen Vote was really pretty much coming
17:50
Speaker 1: off the field as well. Dave Ross the same. So
17:54
Speaker 1: these are not that exceptional to these kinds of decisions anymore.
17:59
Speaker 2: Okay, five seven one four. Will Roberts pull Yamamoto early
18:04
Speaker 2: if he's struggling or just live and die can with
18:07
Speaker 2: him regardless due to the leaky bullpen? I mean, it's
18:11
Speaker 2: not an enviable decision.
18:12
Speaker 1: Correct, it's not, And it's a great question, and certainly
18:16
Speaker 1: it is dependent on where they are in the game,
18:20
Speaker 1: where Yamamoto is, where they are in the lineup. I
18:23
Speaker 1: don't mean to evade the question, but we have to
18:25
Speaker 1: see how this plays out. And I think the real
18:28
Speaker 1: question that you're answering or you're asking here is will
18:32
Speaker 1: he stay with him an extra hitter or an extra
18:34
Speaker 1: inning to buy more time to try to cover more
18:37
Speaker 1: outs before he goes to the bullpen. That is going
18:40
Speaker 1: to be the flashpoint of this game, perhaps and it's
18:44
Speaker 1: going to be really interesting to see what Dave Roberts does.
18:46
Speaker 1: He'll have Sasaki for two innings at some point if
18:48
Speaker 1: he needs him, and he'll have others available as well.
18:52
Speaker 1: But that bullpen hasn't been great, let's face it, and
18:55
Speaker 1: I'm sure he would prefer Yamamoto to go as deep
18:58
Speaker 1: into this game as possible.
19:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, complete game, great, it's three in the postseason. We'll
19:03
Speaker 2: take it. This is question next that's coming up.
19:05
Speaker 3: Ken.
19:05
Speaker 2: I absolutely love this is from a Cowboys in Choir
19:08
Speaker 2: seventy two fifty nine says, regardless of Toronto wins, how
19:12
Speaker 2: much does the World Series Championship appeal? Actually there's two
19:17
Speaker 2: different questions that are saying the same thing. How much
19:19
Speaker 2: does the World Series Championship enhance the Blue Jays appeal
19:22
Speaker 2: for mar que names in free agency? I love this question.
19:26
Speaker 1: It is a good question, and it's interesting to me.
19:30
Speaker 1: The Blue Jays, yes, in recent years, have had trouble
19:32
Speaker 1: getting the big free agents, but there have been reasons
19:35
Speaker 1: for that. In each case, Otani and Yamamoto and Sasaki
19:39
Speaker 1: just wanted to play for the Dodgers. Soto wanted to
19:41
Speaker 1: play for the Yankees. It seemed at the time. I'm
19:43
Speaker 1: sorry the Mets at the time, and it wasn't necessarily
19:49
Speaker 1: a statement on the Blue Jays or on Toronto that
19:52
Speaker 1: those players chose to be elsewhere. If you go back
19:54
Speaker 1: to the nineties, when the Jays, of course won back
19:57
Speaker 1: to Backworld Series in ninety two or ninety three, Ronto
20:00
Speaker 1: was a destination for players. They liked playing in Toronto.
20:03
Speaker 1: They didn't mind going there and being in a different
20:06
Speaker 1: country or anything like that. Now there are challenges to
20:08
Speaker 1: playing in Toronto, there's no question about it. You do
20:11
Speaker 1: have the extra customs when you're traveling back and forth.
20:15
Speaker 1: But Kevin Gossman signed with the Blue Jays, George Springer
20:18
Speaker 1: signed with the Blue Jays, Jeff Hoffman signed with the
20:20
Speaker 1: Blue Jays. It's not like this place is considered undesirable.
20:24
Speaker 1: In fact, it's one of the great cities in the world.
20:27
Speaker 1: Every time i'm here, it amazes me. It's culturally diverse,
20:30
Speaker 1: it's got everything you would want, restaurants, it's clean, everything
20:35
Speaker 1: you want. It's almost like a better version of New
20:38
Speaker 1: York in some ways. So to me, it shouldn't be
20:41
Speaker 1: a problem for Toronto Blue Jays to attract free agents
20:44
Speaker 1: regardless in the circumstances that we've mentioned, it just seemed
20:48
Speaker 1: that they weren't the team of choice for those particular players.
20:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. Toronto's a great city. I
20:53
Speaker 2: have been there several times. I love it every single
20:54
Speaker 2: time that I go. Coming up, we are gonna talk
20:57
Speaker 2: dude and Dork of the week. Ken and I both
20:59
Speaker 2: have our selection set. We'll be back right after this break.
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Speaker 1: Dude, Dude, dude.
21:27
Speaker 2: All right, time for Dude of the Week, and Ken
21:29
Speaker 2: and I have both selected a Toronto Blue Jay. Ken,
21:32
Speaker 2: you have the honors.
21:34
Speaker 1: Treya Savage and Treya Savage. What he did in Game
21:37
Speaker 1: five most strikeouts by a rookie pitcher in a World
21:40
Speaker 1: Series Game twelve, I don't know what more we can
21:43
Speaker 1: say about him. This guy started this season in the
21:46
Speaker 1: Florida State League in the need and jumped every level
21:49
Speaker 1: to get to the big leagues at twenty two he
21:51
Speaker 1: is unquestionably for me, the dude of the week.
21:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, pitching in front of about three hundred and sixty seven
21:57
Speaker 2: people and then he's absolutely shoving in the world's congratulations
22:01
Speaker 2: to Trey Savage and his entire family because it's been
22:03
Speaker 2: fun to see the emotions and everything going on with
22:06
Speaker 2: the entire clan. Mine is Will Klein. I mean, to me,
22:09
Speaker 2: Will Klein Ken was kind of like the Brent Honeywell
22:12
Speaker 2: of last year for the Dodgers or the Nathan Valdi
22:14
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. And again, you know, lower has been
22:18
Speaker 2: pretty good in this in this series as well. But
22:20
Speaker 2: to me, Will kleinb coming out of the bullpen and
22:23
Speaker 2: pitching I want to say four shutout innings I believe
22:25
Speaker 2: if I'm remembering that correctly in relief has been such
22:29
Speaker 2: a fun thing to see for him. Perhaps nobody knew
22:31
Speaker 2: much about the guys, unless you, of course, are following
22:34
Speaker 2: the Blue Jays all the time. But huge, huge, gutsy performance,
22:39
Speaker 2: and he certainly deserves a lot of credit because relievers
22:42
Speaker 2: need love. To Ken Rosenthal, all.
22:45
Speaker 1: Right, that's one thing, I know you're misspoke. Just he
22:47
Speaker 1: had a brain cramp he's with the Dodgers.
22:50
Speaker 2: I mean's sorry, Well yeah, my bad will flyin. That's
22:53
Speaker 2: what I meant with Dodgers.
22:54
Speaker 1: I apologize and don't jump on a lot anyone. We
22:57
Speaker 1: all make mistakes. I do it all.
23:01
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, Trey is savage with the Blue Jays,
23:04
Speaker 2: will climb with the Daughter's iypologiss all right. Time Now
23:06
Speaker 2: for the dork of the week. That is not me.
23:17
Speaker 2: All right, my faux pa, of course, but that is
23:19
Speaker 2: not I'm not going to pick myself this dork of
23:21
Speaker 2: the week, although I should ken Who is yours?
23:24
Speaker 1: My dork of the week? Is anyone anyone thinking it
23:28
Speaker 1: would be a good idea to shut down the sport
23:30
Speaker 1: of baseball after the Collective Argaining Agreement expires December one,
23:34
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. This sport is doing really well. The
23:38
Speaker 1: World Series is getting better ratings than I think a
23:41
Speaker 1: lot of people expected, considering that Canada does not count
23:44
Speaker 1: in the ratings. It's been a very electric World Series,
23:47
Speaker 1: really intriguing, so many big stars, so many good things happening.
23:50
Speaker 1: This sport is thriving. Can it be improved? Absolutely, it
23:54
Speaker 1: can be improved, and it can be improved as I've
23:56
Speaker 1: said many times before, without a salary cap, there are
23:59
Speaker 1: other things you can do to get a better collective
24:02
Speaker 1: bargaining agreement to make it somewhat more of a financially
24:05
Speaker 1: level playing field. So, anyone thinking of shutting down the sport,
24:08
Speaker 1: and I'm sure there are a few owners out there
24:10
Speaker 1: who are thinking of shutting down the sport. Dork of
24:12
Speaker 1: the week, Yeah.
24:13
Speaker 2: One way to improve the sport without a salary cap
24:16
Speaker 2: is to read the room. My dork of the week
24:18
Speaker 2: is Major League Baseball for deciding it was a good
24:20
Speaker 2: idea to have the Jonas Brothers perform a concert in
24:23
Speaker 2: the middle of a World Series game. If I'm the
24:26
Speaker 2: starting pitchers in either one of those games, I'm thinking,
24:28
Speaker 2: what the heck is happening. I am all for the
24:31
Speaker 2: Stand Up for Cancer movement. That's a very incredible movement,
24:35
Speaker 2: and it's been a part of Major League Baseball in
24:36
Speaker 2: the World Series for a number of years, and that
24:39
Speaker 2: part I love. But then to switch over to a
24:42
Speaker 2: concert in a time and a game ken that is
24:45
Speaker 2: not a natural break. It was almost as if Major
24:48
Speaker 2: League Baseball was trying to have a halftime show in
24:51
Speaker 2: a World Series game. That's not the appropriate time, that's
24:55
Speaker 2: not the appropriate field. Had nothing to do with Toronto,
24:58
Speaker 2: it had nothing to do with Fox. This was Major
25:00
Speaker 2: League Baseball's decision of doing this, and it was just
25:04
Speaker 2: not the right move in my opinion.
25:07
Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, I don't know where that
25:10
Speaker 1: idea came from, but there are times I feel where
25:13
Speaker 1: MLB is like the dorky kid at school trying to
25:16
Speaker 1: be cool and not saying that the sports shouldn't try
25:20
Speaker 1: to be cooler. We've talked about this and promoting players
25:23
Speaker 1: and all that, but this was a reach and a
25:26
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't like it. A lot of people
25:27
Speaker 1: don't like a lot of things. That's the way of
25:29
Speaker 1: the world right now, but this to me was a stretch.
25:32
Speaker 1: As you said, Alana, yeah, just.
25:34
Speaker 2: Read the room, have a little bit of feel all right.
25:36
Speaker 2: If you are watching on television, Thank you guys so
25:38
Speaker 2: much for joining us. We will see you next time
25:40
Speaker 2: we have a couple more minutes with our YouTube family.
25:43
Speaker 2: Right after this, Ken, you and I were talking about
25:46
Speaker 2: how awesome a city like Toronto is and it has
25:49
Speaker 2: been one of my favorite places to go for a
25:51
Speaker 2: number of years. What's the scene been like there, Because
25:55
Speaker 2: this is a country I mean, I know Toronto's a city,
25:58
Speaker 2: but the country of cam a city of Toronto. This
26:02
Speaker 2: is a fan base that is hungry. They so desperately
26:06
Speaker 2: would love to have a World championship in their corner.
26:10
Speaker 2: What's it been like for you.
26:11
Speaker 1: It's been really cool to see people so excited and
26:15
Speaker 1: there are a ton of people wearing Blue Jays gear
26:17
Speaker 1: out and about. Of course, you saw the watch parties
26:20
Speaker 1: at Rogers Center for the games in Los Angeles. They
26:24
Speaker 1: had thirty thousand people for Game five and apparently it
26:27
Speaker 1: was an electric environment in there. Is talking with some
26:29
Speaker 1: of the security guards in the ballpark yesterday and they
26:33
Speaker 1: were saying it was incredible the scene. So yes, it
26:36
Speaker 1: has been on it just as you said, a really
26:39
Speaker 1: cool atmosphere, a really great thing to see a city
26:42
Speaker 1: that has not had a World Series in thirty two
26:45
Speaker 1: years come alive like this. They love their Blue Jays, hear,
26:48
Speaker 1: just like fans in all cities love their teams. And
26:52
Speaker 1: it has been a lot of fun to be here
26:54
Speaker 1: during the Blue Jays run. We've been my team at
26:56
Speaker 1: Fox on them for all three of the see all
26:59
Speaker 1: three of them series, so it's been very cool.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it's been it's been great to see all
27:05
Speaker 2: of the fans obviously enjoying it, but the broadcasters and
27:09
Speaker 2: you know, Dan Shulman and Buck Martinez and Hazel May
27:12
Speaker 2: and so many others. Of course, I'm not trying to
27:14
Speaker 2: single anybody out, but just the enthusiasm, and it's been
27:17
Speaker 2: it's been a ton of fun to see. What are
27:19
Speaker 2: you looking forward to tonight? Ken, in terms of what
27:21
Speaker 2: do you need to see? Game six obviously on the
27:24
Speaker 2: brink for the Blue Jays and the Dodgers trying to
27:26
Speaker 2: force the issue.
27:27
Speaker 1: To me, it's a very simple storyline. Can Yamamoto do
27:30
Speaker 1: it again? And if he does it again, then we
27:33
Speaker 1: have a really interesting scenario because then the question becomes
27:36
Speaker 1: can the Dodgers get to Gossman? And they did somewhat
27:40
Speaker 1: in the previous game. Of course, he pitched great and
27:42
Speaker 1: then he gave up a little bit in the seventh inning,
27:45
Speaker 1: So that to me is what this is about.
27:48
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we look forward to it. We want
27:50
Speaker 2: to thank you guys certainly for being with us here
27:52
Speaker 2: on Fair Territory all new episodes. Of course, before I
27:54
Speaker 2: let you go, though, do you expect Springer to start?
27:56
Speaker 3: Ken?
27:57
Speaker 2: You've had these conversations with John Schneider. Obviously he's always
28:00
Speaker 2: been available off the bench, but is he going to
28:02
Speaker 2: be in a starting lineup?
28:04
Speaker 1: I will say this Initially, when Schneider said that to me,
28:08
Speaker 1: I can't remember which game was, Game four, I believe
28:10
Speaker 1: when I asked him in game when he was very
28:12
Speaker 1: positive about Springer's outlook, I was skeptical, and I remained
28:16
Speaker 1: somewhat skeptical. But they have continued to say that he
28:19
Speaker 1: is available and that he could have started the last game,
28:22
Speaker 1: So I sort of do expect him to start to
28:25
Speaker 1: I based on their comments, I don't know that they're bluffing.
28:27
Speaker 1: In fact, I asked someone with the Blue Jays at
28:29
Speaker 1: one point, Hey, is this decoy stuff or what tell
28:31
Speaker 1: me the truth? And they said, no, he is available,
28:34
Speaker 1: so we shall see.
28:36
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's interesting too because the last couple of games
28:38
Speaker 2: they haven't needed them in that big situation, because there's
28:40
Speaker 2: been enough of a cushion, certainly in Game five, that
28:43
Speaker 2: he was not needed in that situation. All right, So anyway,
28:47
Speaker 2: fair Territory is done. We will be back next week.
28:50
Speaker 2: Of course. Today's Foul Territory Todd Frazer, Eric krat Scott
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Speaker 2: Broun has Kevin Pillar, Tim Kerchin and Patie Wou and
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Speaker 2: don't forget guys. Both Foul Territory and Dodgers Territory will
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Speaker 2: have live posting shows right after the game. Will be
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