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TheDocNCarolynPodcast.com Episode 132 (A Petcast for Zoey) · TheDocNCarolynPodcast

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  SPEAKER_02: The Doc and Carolyn Podcast!
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  SPEAKER_00: Ah, here we are again.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's episode 132 of the Doc and Carolyn Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for being aboard.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome back.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're happy to be here too.
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  SPEAKER_00: I I got a I got a unique thrill.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: You walked into the uh to the kitchen from your office and said, I'm in between patience and you and you're trying to get a bite to eat real fast, but then you were ordering me around talking about, look, I need mustard stat.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's like wow.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't think that's what happened.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's kind of like that, but but it's nice to see truehealinghealthcare.net emerge.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you're getting more patients and you're getting back-to-back patients.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was busy today.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so what is that what does that feel like?
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: Did you what are you six months in now?
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  SPEAKER_00: June?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, something like that.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so how's that feeling?
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  SPEAKER_00: People are responding to to what you're teaching people.
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  SPEAKER_02: I like it.
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  SPEAKER_02: And today was very satisfying because I had a patient that she really nature takes longer, you know, than taking a pill.
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  SPEAKER_02: So when you're actually healing things, it just takes longer.
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  SPEAKER_02: And sometimes you don't really notice what's happening.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And which is what happened to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then today she said, Sometimes I feel like I'm spinning my wheels at some point.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then later in the conversation, she said, Well, I've noticed that I don't have to nap all day now.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going and doing things during the day.
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  SPEAKER_00: See, I had a thought about that because um we just live in such a microwave culture.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: The thinking for us was we're we're never in that much of a hurry that we can't stick something in the oven and take the time to do it that way rather than change, you know, kind of change the structure of the food.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: And there's d there's debates on on whether or not that's happening.
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  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, and we didn't even when we built the house, we didn't even have a microwave put in.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, and that's my point.
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  SPEAKER_00: So maybe, you know, you said nature takes more time, you know, when when the body the the our bodies are fearfully and wondrously made, so uh it does take a little bit more time, but ultimately if if we wait for the results and we are consistent.
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  SPEAKER_02: The reason it takes time is because your body's actually healing, you're not suppressing symptoms.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's a whole different ballgame, then yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, sometimes we have supplements that will help you um help the symptoms while your body is healing, but the goal for those is always to get off of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, listen, we're doing our first ever pet cast.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think we're breaking some new ground here in the podcast sphere.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, we are doing it for a special reason.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're doing it in honor of Zoe.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, our first ever Doc and Carolyn pet cast.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I'm Carolyn Kilgore, founder and provider at TrueHealing Healthcare.net.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: Why functional medicine?
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: Because you're more than just a list of symptoms.
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  SPEAKER_02: Traditional care often masks the problem, but functional medicine digs deeper to find the root cause.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_00: What makes True Healing Healthcare different?
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  SPEAKER_02: We move away from the one size fits all approach.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_02: We look at your environment and your lifestyle to create a roadmap tailored specifically for you.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: What if someone really wants to make a change?
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  SPEAKER_02: If you're tired of feeling fine and want to start feeling great, it's about proactive wellness, not just reactive treatment.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: What's the deal with telemedicine?
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  SPEAKER_02: As long as you're 18 and have an internet connection, you can have a visit in the privacy of your own home or anywhere else in Texas.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're able to order labs or prescribe or whatever else you need.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_00: Truehealinghealthcare.net for the great state of Texas.
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  SPEAKER_00: Episode 132 is a pet cast, our first ever.
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  SPEAKER_00: In honor of Zoe, as you mentioned.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And before before we hit that, uh we we always we we said we were going to say the price of Bitcoin or what the cryptocurrency market is doing at the beginning of every show.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just for the just to note, last week Bitcoin was at$73,000 at or about.
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  SPEAKER_00: This week it's$63,000.
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  SPEAKER_00: Went down ten thousand dollars in one week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now, this is now I I'm I'm the investor.
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  SPEAKER_00: You've you know I I'm I I have that job for our home.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and we invest in a variety of uh in a variety I'm nervous.
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  SPEAKER_00: I sound nervous, don't I?
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  SPEAKER_00: In a variety of different things.
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  SPEAKER_00: But what is but what is your impression?
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  SPEAKER_00: When when you when you l hear what's happening in in in cryptocurrency and you hear this, you're about a ten thousand dollar one-week drop in the asset, what are your what are your thoughts about it?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, I don't know as much about it as you do, but what I do know is it always goes down and then it comes up and very volatile.
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  SPEAKER_02: Right.
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  SPEAKER_02: A lot of times when it comes up, it's higher than it was in the past.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_02: And okay, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you're com are you're comfortable with that volatility at the moment.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: At the moment, yes.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: Well well, listen, we're not we're not giving any ad uh investment advice, we're not giving any guidance uh on how to how to invest your money.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: This is for entertainment purposes only, absolutely.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_02: So you can laugh at us.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you can yeah, laugh all you want.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's that's that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_00: But but I do want to put it in some perspective.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, listen to this clip.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh Amazon, uh, the company Amazon, started by Jeff Bezos, who's now arguably the richest, one of the richest people in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: When he began Amazon, he had uh he had been, I think at this point, four years in, and uh Jeff Bezos appears on the Leno show, on the Tonight Show.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_00: Check this out.
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  SPEAKER_06: The company is worth billions.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_06: And every time I pick up the paper, each year it loses more money than it lost in the year before.
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  SPEAKER_06: The company's never made a profit.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_06: That's right.
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  SPEAKER_05: How does it woman?
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_05: How does it woman?
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  SPEAKER_05: Seems like a new series of Doomsbury cartoons about this.
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  SPEAKER_04: This is this is not a new phenomenon.
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  SPEAKER_04: We are a famously unprofitable company and we are investing in the future.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's not which isn't unusual.
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  SPEAKER_04: Companies have done this before.
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  SPEAKER_04: What's a little surprising about Amazon at com is the scale which we're doing it.
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  SPEAKER_04: We're doing it in a big way.
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  SPEAKER_04: So you just keep reinvesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's put it like this.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you bought$100 worth of worth of Amazon when that aired, if you just saw that that clip and said uh saw Bezos on Leno and said, I'm gonna invest a hundred bucks, it's worth a hundred and eighty thousand dollars today.
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  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: So just to put it in perspective, so while uh the crypto, while Bitcoin is down, um, you know, learn as much as you can about there's a lot of stuff, a lot of legislation that's pending in Washington.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: The Genius Act already passed, and then the Clarity Act.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: And you can Google these these things and look them up and learn a little bit about them, but just be aware something's rumbling, something's happening, and uh the dip in price is not necessarily, if you're an investor, a bad thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And not the other thing I was gonna say was that um we've watched it go from what, ten cents or something to I mean, yeah, if you look at the chart numbers, in ten years from twenty sixteen to the present, Bitcoin specifically is up uh about ninety-seven hundred percent, almost ten thousand percent.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_02: And the way that we invest, I mean we just drip it, so yeah, we're not it's not like we bought everything high and now it drops, so we lost a ton of money.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we do a fixed amount every month, and that's called dollar cost averaging, something you can look at and into that.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: Don't listen, we're not gonna say anything else because again, this is not investment advice now.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_00: As it relates to our first ever pet cast, um, our dear friend and sister in the Lord, Kimberly Blakes, uh, lost her blessed, her, her, her, her very uh cherished fur baby.
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  SPEAKER_02: I think she's had him for 10 years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and she said the pet thing.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: It took it took me a long time to understand that um how precious a pet can be to someone.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: And you're giving me the side eye, but because you from where you were when we first got married to where you are now, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean it's a huge difference.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: But let me just tell you, I grew up in a in kind of a uh a culture where dogs were not loved like us.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if if our whole culture has changed, or was it just the circles that I was running in, but but dogs weren't just just loved.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, most for the most part, very few people had uh inside dogs and get on the bed or sit on the dog.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it was like that when I was young.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so um, and and my mom, especially Kat, that's her nickname, Katherine.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: My mom was just she would she would tell me all the time, she said, ooh, she said, you can't have a cat in the in the house.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: Uh a cat, uh, a cat'll suck your breath.
• 8:58
  unknown: What is that?
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  SPEAKER_00: Remember, I told you that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes, and that is an old wives' tale, but I don't even know what it means.
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  SPEAKER_00: I well, I found out later, but she'd say all the time, you know, don't let a cat get around, it'll suck your breath.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and I didn't know I didn't have a clue with that man, and I finally Googled it at one point, and and I guess babies would, you know, maybe drinking formula or drinking milk or whatever, would have maybe some little crust around their mouth, maybe, and the and the cat would smell that and go up and maybe let the you know and I actually think that's what AI told me, or something I Google where did that old wives' tales uh come from, and that's allegedly it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, so that's the environment, you know, with those kind of warnings in my life that that I grew up around.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh my mom had a dog uh growing up smoky, and and um and then man, there was a little uh brain.
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  SPEAKER_02: Smokey was an outside dog?
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: Smokey was inside, no, uh-uh.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: Oh but but but again, it was my mom's dog.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: So um I never had a dog.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: And in in fact, my first pet that I ever got, and I don't know how it came up, but for my birthday nine years ago or ten years ago, whatever it's been now, you bought me you bought home a cat for me.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: You you you brought home.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_02: If you follow us on Facebook, you know all about Barney.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's on the Animal Channel.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: I have a uh a channel on on YouTube called the Animal Channel, and he and Andy feature quite quite prominently on the channel.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: But so so that's my first pet.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: And as a starter pet, I'm not sure if if a cat is really the right.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, of course it is.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, he he doesn't do or Barney doesn't do it.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_00: He comes home, he's kind of indifferent.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: He's a cat.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's my point.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, when my first pet shouldn't it have been like a dog that was that's happy when I get home and greets me enthusiastically.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_02: Dogs are a lot more work than cats are, and so I thought I would start you off easy.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and Barney, I mean, he loves on you sometimes.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: He'll rub his head on you.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I just but but you've told me before that the experience of having a dog is so different.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, it is, it's way different.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you know, another thing about the culture, uh, I grew up in a partially a little town called Lincoln Heights.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: I've mentioned it before, but I I remember being at a red light, it was right uh, you know, on the edge of these two cities, Lachland, Ohio, and Lincoln Heights, Ohio.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm at a red light, and it's like a like a country town, kind of like the towns uh here in Texas.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm at this red light and there's a panel truck in front of me at the light, right?
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it has wooden these wooden slats on either side.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: And and and the guy was carrying junk, right?
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: It had, I don't know, an old stove on it, it had like a transmission, it had, you know, some furniture, like old, old sectionals and chairs, and and it was piled up as high as the sides of this of these wooden slats.
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  SPEAKER_00: And at the top, as I'm at this red light, and all this, and all this stuff is piled into this truck, at the very top, teetering on this teetering mass of mess is a dog on a on a leash.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it wasn't like he was in in immediate danger, but it was just the it's just one of those sights you'll see out that way.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's just it was just a dog at the top, and he when he took off, he took off nice and considerately slow, so the dog wouldn't take a tumble.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: But that's the kind of dogs were utilitarian, not necessarily loved like I observed.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: Not family members.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean you like you know tell the tell the story of Charlie because Charlie, in fact, hold on to Charlie, because that's a story.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's like an old yeller tale almost, right?
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know what old yeller is.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_02: Is that the one where Did you not see Old Yeller?
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I have.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_02: Because we will watch it.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think I am familiar with it though.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's doesn't the dog um like eat up a bunch of kids or something at the end?
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: Or is that Cujo?
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  SPEAKER_02: No, the old yeller does not eat anyone up.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_02: Good gravy.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: But even but even listen, even Texas culture, this is something that happened.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: An incident in our neighborhood where some some fellas are walking down the street.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's a jerk and his wife.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's what?
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: A jerk and his wife.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: What does that mean?
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_02: It means he's a jerk and his wife.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it was a male and a female?
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_02: I believe so.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: So so this couple is walking uh down one of the streets, and we we know this from ring cams, but some somebody opened the door to their garage or or front door, and and their pets, their dogs, ran out up the driveway and kind of out into the street towards this couple, and one of them takes out a pistol and just shoots.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: And um I think I I think I don't know the whole story.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_02: I for some reason I have in my head that they were um the lady was in the front with the dogs, with the dog, yeah.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: And the dog started barking at the people walking by as dogs do from their driveway.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and the jerk shot toward the lady, shot the dog toward aiming toward the lady, and now they have a we're trying to figure out who they are so they can be picked up and thrown in jail.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: So listen to me.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: So from from my perspective, I didn't grow up with dogs, and and that's kind of the reason I was saying I really didn't get my first uh ownership of a pet until you you got Barney for me.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: And and I didn't grow up with with dogs for the most part.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I go through the police academy, and a lot of what we learn is is as it relates to to uh self-defense is dogs have teeth which are considered kind of edged weapons.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: So when we go to a residence, when we and you know, go to a call for service, dogs are a big issue.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: And not not, you know, without being familiar with the animal, you know, it's it's it's important for our safety that the dog is put up and isn't confrontational and all of that.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_00: So my thinking is if if when you have a pet, you it is your responsibility to keep it within uh the confines of your of your property so it does not so it isn't perceived as a threat because not everybody has the same threshold of comfort with with uh with a dog off leash.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_02: No, I agree with that, but when the dog is in its own front yard with its owner, yeah.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm not suggesting that's that was the right response on on their part at all.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: No, it wasn't.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: But but it also is the pet owner's responsibility uh to to it, and I'm looking at it just from an officer's point of view, that um, you know, you can be right and still suffer.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: You can be absolutely right.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like you can have the right-of-way on a red light, okay?
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: And the light turns green and you can step off the curve if you're a pedestrian.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: If the light turns green, you have every right of way to step off that curb and start walking across the street.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: But if there's a truck coming and and you still have what are you gonna do?
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, I got the right of way.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: No, of course not.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna stop and consider the circumstances and consider the and mitigate the potential outcomes as much as you can.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: So you gotta go ahead.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the way I mean the reason we know that they were in the right, the owners of the dog, is because you know, the law enforcement looked at the videos.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I guess I'm I'm not taking that as the um as the test case for for what's right about how you um allow your dogs outside of your your front door.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: But you have to understand that not everybody that that again, um it it could be something that that's accidental.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody, you know, if they're off leash, there's just a potential for a lot of things to go wrong.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: And well, since you've never owned a dog, I'll tell you that sometimes you open the door and they're gone.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: You can't.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you try to be as careful as you can.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: Just like people lose their cat sometimes.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um, ours, thankfully, you know, they don't try to run from us.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: So um we haven't had that issue, but it happens, and you know, I just can't I don't know.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, before we get to uh Kimberly and the reason we're doing our pet cast uh on this show, uh tell us about Charlie.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: This is this is something that that you you've you told me you told me tell me the story from once you know you tell me the story of it once in a while, and you just um I don't know what to think about it.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_00: You you just it's just it's heartwarming in a way, but then you know, having it it's so uh alien to me to have just a strange mangy animal, you know, just pull up on your just pull up on your porch and then you next thing you know, he's living in the spare room.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't understand that.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I just opened the front door one morning and he's sitting there.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: So you're so you're you're living in Texas.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: You open the front door and there is a dog there, not just uh not just some little pooch.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's a rockweiler, right?
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, he's not a rockweiler.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: I actually don't know what breed he was.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm thinking he had some chow in him.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: And so he had eaten.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: And no, that's a breed.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: And he was a big dog, about 80, 90 pounds at that point.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: And he scared me when I opened the door.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_00: So what wait a minute, so what brought you did he ring the doorbell?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: What opened what made you open the door in the first place?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_00: So you opened the door, but the dog the dog's there.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: And he was just sweet and he didn't want to leave.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: And what effort did you make to get the dog to leave?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: Not much.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: I fed him.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: But he was sitting, it was really hot in the summer.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_02: He's got all this fur, he's panting.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: So I give him water, you know, he looks thirsty.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: And anyway, he didn't leave.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: And so And you still don't know.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like you've seen it in the neighborhood.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_00: It was the neighbor's dog.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: I have no idea whose dog he was.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: But so anyway, after a couple of days, I thought, well, if he's gonna hang around, I'm gonna take him to the vet because I have a kid here.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: I need to make sure he's okay.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: So I took him to the vet, and that's what did it.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: When I took him to the vet.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: Why Charlie?
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: Why'd you name him Charlie?
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_02: He just looked like a Charlie.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: So you take Charlie to the vet.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_02: Take Charlie to the vet, and he will not leave my side.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: At the vet?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: At the vet.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_02: Huh.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: So just adopted you.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he adopted me.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: And that's what that's what they do.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_02: They pick their person.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_02: So that was it.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: He I was his after that.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: So so you get him home.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, do you do you does he live in the house?
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: Do you put him in the backyard?
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: He was the best dog I've ever seen in my entire life.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: Never got on the furniture, never I could leave food on the coffee table.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_02: He wouldn't touch it.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_02: But if I I mean he would eat whatever I'd give him, but he never took food, he never got in the trash, he never did any of those things.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: One time I came home and the television was on, and he's sitting on the couch.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, what are you doing?
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: And he just slowly creeped off the couch.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_02: But that was the only time he ever got on the furniture.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, Charlie ended up passing away.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: And how long did you keep them?
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_00: How long did you have them?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh a few years.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember, but and so he was just this uh he knew how to, you know, potty train, he knew how to.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Go outside and all that.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: Very well behaved, housebroken, and I adored him.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: And when he died, I grieved so horribly for the longest time.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_02: Still, sometimes that's why I had you tell the story because and we've I mean, you and I have been married for 14 years, and I had him a few years before we were married.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_02: And yeah, I can't.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: I so I understand what Kimberly's going through.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's just devastating.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: I I well let me just tell you this.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: I had no no clue.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: I I because of the way I grew up, I didn't dogs were not treated like a member of the family.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: And uh the way that changed for me, I was I was playing uh in a tennis tournament.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: A buddy that was on my team said, Hey, there's a pet hospital now it was snowing real bad.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: This is in Ohio.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's um it's snowing real bad.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: Just meet me at that uh at that pet hospital and you can follow me there.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: The pet hospital was at a big intersection that I was familiar with.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: So he says, you know, just meet me in the parking lot and follow me over.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm sitting in the parking lot snowing, and I just remember the snow because it was so poignant in the in the moment this family uh comes out of the uh the the pet emergency and they're standing in front of this place.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: It was maybe a mom, dad, and two or three kids, you know, and they're waist high, you know, so maybe um older than toddlers, yeah, but but a family, and they huddled together and and hugged, and and you could tell uh from across the parking lot that they were crying, they were just re uh, you know, just just huddling and shaking with grief.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's terrible.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I to that point, you know, people at people at work, I was working at um uh I think probably patrol at that point, but I would run into people from time to time that were completely grieving their pets, and I didn't get it.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't get it.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, gee, whiz, dig a hole.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: What is what is wrong with you?
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I really did feel that way.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: And but but seeing uh this family grieve like that, I got it.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_00: I got it at that moment.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not something where you grieve a day or two and then you go out and get a new dog, you know, and I saw um on some of Kimberly's post, and people are so are well-meaning, but you know, to say, well, just go get another dog.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, you can't do that.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_02: And even like a year or so later, I tried to get another dog and I couldn't bond with it because I felt guilty.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: You really did.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: I did, and I ended up having to re-home the little thing because I could I just couldn't.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to this Kingdom Minute with your host, Kimberly Blakes on the Doc and Carolyn podcast.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: My Zoe on November the 19th of 2016.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: So I got my Zoe on November the 19th of 2016.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: I had no idea that I was gonna get a dog.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: I did not want a dog, I never had one.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: And um one of the renters in my salon came and said, Um, we need a home for a small dog that's been trained.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: We believe the dog is five or six years old.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, if we don't find a home for her, she's gonna go in a shelter.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: And the shelters in that area were were kill shelters.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, What why would you why would you tell me that?
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: And she said, Well, we just really need a home for this dog, and we think that you'd be a good match because she doesn't like other dogs.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, I just don't have time for a dog, and you know, I just I wasn't interested.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: And at the time, I was, you know, the guy I was dating heard the conversation, and he insisted that we go see the dog or go meet the dog, and she said, Well, you should just go meet the dog, and we drove out there after work, drove 50 minutes um out to this woman's house that was holding a dog.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: Now, this woman trained German shepherds, and she thought she could take Zoe after Zoe's owner died.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: And Zoe bit one of the German shepherds, and she knew that um the German shepherds would kill her at the next opportunity, so they really needed to find a home for her that same day.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_01: And um, so I went out there and uh we got to the door and I walked in, and Zoe ran right to my feet, and she sat there, and I said, just give me your stuff, I'll just I'll take her.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I didn't know what to do with a dog, I had no idea.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: I never had a dog in my life, and I don't think I did a good job, but I did the best I could, you know.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: And um I found out some of her backstory.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: She had an owner, and her owner was um married to a man that was 30 years younger than her, and the man went to jail and had some felonies, and he would sell Zoe and um, you know, all kinds of stuff.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so the woman had a second job and she ended up dying of a heart attack.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: And Zoe was in the house with her while she was dead for a couple days, and um they got her and tried to find a home for her, and they couldn't find one, and that's how I ended up with her.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: But later on, because of the photos I would share, I got in touch with her niece who told me the backstory.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: And when the boyfriend got out of jail, he was in his um early 30s, he reached out and he he wanted Zoe back, and I said, No, she she's mine now, and within a few months he was killed as well.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_01: And um, I just I found out from him that she was actually nine years old, and he got her in Chicago years ago, and so I said, Well, if she was nine then, how old is she now?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it turns out Zoe was older than six years old, and that was fine with me.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't I didn't know anything about her at all, and um but I thought she would live longer.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_01: I thought, you know, because people say, well, small dogs live till they're 24, 25 years old.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: And just a month ago, she's really started to decline so rapidly.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: I've never seen anything like it.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Within the past week, she hasn't eaten.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: She was so dehydrated they couldn't even get the get the Catherine.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um she hadn't eaten, she was throwing up, she had lost use of her back legs, and I tried to I tried to make her stay.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: I went and I bought food and I blended it and I tried to give it to her, I tried to I wanted her to stay just a little bit longer because she's all I had.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_01: She was my cousin, she was all I had for 10 years, and I tried my best.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_01: But the other day, when she was laying on the couch next to me, I heard her whimper.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_01: She started crying, and I knew she was in so much pain because she started dragging her back legs.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: So I called her vet and I said, Hey, I need I need to get her in today.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_01: And the vet said she had nothing until next week, and I couldn't let her wait.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: So I just took her to this vet today, and that's it.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: She's gone.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: My first dog.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: Jesus have mercy on me.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: I've never felt this kind of pain.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I just I I have, but not recently, and I did not expect it.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: I knew this would be hard.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: But my consolation is that she's not in pain anymore.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: She doesn't have to drag her back legs.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she doesn't have to starve.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: She went from 19 pounds to at the end, she was um, she was seven pounds.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: She was boned.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: I could pick her up with one head.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: My god.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: No, please.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, keep me in prayer.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think I'll be fine after a while, but right now I'm still in the parking lot.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't, I don't know where to go.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for tuning in to this kingdom minute with your host, Kimberly Blakes on the Doc and Carolyn Podcast.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: You can find me on Facebook at Kimberly Blakes, and I also have a podcast called the Faith Frame Perspective.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'll see you guys there.
• 30:35
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• 30:41
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