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Wheel World: F1 Movie Review, Superman (2025) Review & The Drifter · Multiple Nerdgasm

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Welcome to Multiple Nerdgasm with your hosts Matt, Luke and
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Dan Multiple Nerdgasm, your guide to all things nerdy.
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I'll stay podcast podcast if you're listening on an iPod.
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Otherwise it's just a narrow cast.
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I know I've done this show, had this complaint before.
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Have I had this complaint on air before?
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I probably have. It bugs me when people call
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podcasts pods. Oh, welcome to the pod.
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You could say pod to the cast. Yeah, because.
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That would be correct. Yes.
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You don't call ATV show ATV, right?
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It's a show. It's a pod cast.
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The pod is the iPod, It's the device.
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Yeah. Yeah, and in fact, if you're
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watching broadcast television, nobody goes.
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Welcome to the Broad Do. That right?
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No, well, they don't say welcome to the cast either.
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No, they don't. They just tell you the name of
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the show. But.
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You'll see. I'll welcome the cast when they
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first probably begin. I don't know.
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Yeah, not a lot, not a lot of live TV these days where they
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introduce the the players. No, that's fair.
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So we've done something strange this week.
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We've already recorded the after party and the third member of
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this show was present for it. He's not here now.
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No, no, he's not, which is why we we inverted the system today.
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But we can tell you that the after party this week, very
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funny, very entertaining. So subscribe on Patreon.
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Yep, and if you want to see what Luke looks like while he's on a
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Nerdgasm. Yeah, yeah, I.
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Mean it looks quite similar to Luke on a Bender at home, but.
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Very similar. Yeah, Yeah.
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Look, there's some, there's tons of stuff to talk about.
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It's been a couple of weeks. I know there's movies and I want
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to get to some movies, but we've also been playing the same
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computer game. Oh yeah.
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I think you might have already finished it perhaps and I over
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halfway according to the amount of achievements that I've that
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I've racked up in Steam. So we're talking about the
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Drifter. Yeah mate, yes, I have finished
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it. I where's my play time on this?
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I I got to say this is it's so far, it's going to be my game of
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the year. For sure it's.
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So fucking good. It's everything that's good
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about point and click adventure games.
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What's some shit you weren't expecting?
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Right 9.6 hours I've I've played a bit, so it's not a huge game,
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but oh I I I was actually surprised it's quite long I was
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surprised by how long it is it's.
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Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, and he's.
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He was described as like, am I wrapping up the mystery here?
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And it's no, no, no, there's, there's more to it.
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Yeah, there's more happening. Yeah.
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Dave's described it as a a like a point and click fast-paced
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take on point and click adventure games.
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And I was like, I wonder what that means at 1st.
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And then now I've played it, I'm like, oh, I get that.
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And that made me nervous because actually, point and click
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adventures that have time limits are genuinely not good.
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Yeah, no, that doesn't mean that it's usually a deal.
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Breaker. Yeah, there's a repeating.
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You'll know what I'm. Well, I don't want to do
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spoilers, but there's sections of it where you can fail and
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then but you'll have to have. Yeah, well, actually, good
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point. Yeah, failure is part of the
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gameplay in in some cases. And then you have another go,
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but they're very like, very well done.
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It's like it never feels like. It's extremely unique in that
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respect. Yeah, I've never played a game
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that does that mechanic before. No, it is excellent.
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The characterization and the, you know, the voice acting of
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the of the lead character is just fucking unreal.
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It's so good. These various.
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Australian peripheral characters drop the quality overall down a
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a little a little bit. Not enough that it matters.
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Yeah, and this is a completely indie game.
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Like they don't have a publisher or anything.
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This is literally just two guys. Yeah, well, and a a couple other
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people involved to do various things and they just made a
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game. Yeah, a great game and the the
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best part about this for me, Luke and I saw a demo of this at
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PAX last year and the playable section that we played was the
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first scene of the game. No train car.
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Actually it's the second scene, it's straight after.
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It's when you were in. The underpass, Yeah, yeah.
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So the first time you're in the in the underpass before
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anything's really happened other than that train scene.
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But you know, when you play something that you've played a
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demo of, you're like, well am I going to just be waiting for
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this to happen? So it's like, it's like when you
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see a movie and everything from the trailer is in the 1st 10
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minutes and you're like, Oh yeah, now it's a completely new
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movie for me. Yep, Yep, yeah.
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So it's a a point and click adventure game.
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If you've no it, it's in the I would say it kind of mashes
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together kind of the full throttle.
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Oh no, not. If if full throttle.
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I'm trying to think what it's like it would.
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Be like full throttle. It looks like full throttle.
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Maybe the dig is the the one that I think is.
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Yes, because it doesn't have the verbs at the bottom of the
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screen. Yeah, you just kind of click.
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Yeah, you're right. I think the dig is probably the
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closest. Yeah, I was trying to think
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which. Definitely.
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Looks like that interface. You know the eye and the hand
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and everything that. The no you just click.
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It just whatever however you can interact, it will it will adapt.
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Yeah, yeah. Like to look at stuff you just
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hover over. It's very like, it is very
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refined. I was like, oh, this is like,
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yeah, I, I, I feel like in a weird way, it's like the, the,
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you know, all the adventure games in the past have like,
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come to. This sounds very silly to say
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about. That.
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Yeah, yeah. But it really does.
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Yeah. It really feels like it's.
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He's built on everything that's come before, and it's just like
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this kind of ultimate version of it he loved.
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Every one of those games and said I want to do one that's
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even better than all of these. And he's put a lot of thought
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into all the aspects of it. And I just feel like it's like
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the the best version of of it, all the little bits that we've
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gotten to the great to date. Yeah.
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I mean, I don't want to. Like about this, it's just very
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fun. It's not a spoiler, but I just
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love in a lot of games from that era from like, you know, like 85
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to 95, say if you've see an item and you pick it up once you've
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used it, you've used it. This.
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If you've got something useful, he'll use it again and again in
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different scenarios. That's right.
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Like, yeah, I like that. Yeah.
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It felt more it. It feels less like a computer
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game and more just like a intuitive storytelling.
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Yeah, no, it's it's really cool. Loved it.
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Yeah, it's good. It could probably get my game of
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the year I'd say so far. Yeah, it's very good.
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Yeah. I, I think I might have to agree
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with you on that. Actually, I can't.
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Think about it. I also.
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Knew that would rival it. I've also been playing another
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point click. Eventually I finished the
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Drifter and I've got. I've mentioned this one already
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before too. This is the Biggle Boss
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incident. Oh, yes, yeah.
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I've been playing it. I had some trouble playing it on
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my Mac. I have resorted to playing it in
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AVM that's running Windows OK, and I've been communication with
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Adam the developer about some a little bit.
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Just trying to not wanting to do that.
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No, just yeah, I, I mean, I want him to succeed.
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This is a guy that I've been following the development of
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this game on YouTube for three years or something like that.
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And he's finally put out this adventure game.
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And it's a fun, you know, it's funny.
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It's like a little it's it's like a little again, indie
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adventure game made by just a single person in this case and
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about a conspiracy at A at an office.
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Kind of don't want to give anything away, but it's it's
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fun. I recommend you check that one
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out as well. I do think that means.
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Team wish list so. It's less polished as than the
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than the Drifter, but also I it's charming and I think it's
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good because he's not a developer.
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He became a developer. To make this game to.
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To make this game and so a lot of the quirks and bugs and stuff
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yeah I I forgive because I'm like well he just he just you
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know what I'm going to make a fucking video game and just
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learned how to do it so it. Reminds me of when Shane
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Carruth, who wasn't a filmmaker, was an engineer who thought he'd
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figured out time travel and was like, I'm going to make a movie
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about this and I'm going to call it Primer because I've got to
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tell people that this is how time travel would actually work
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if it worked. Yeah, yeah.
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So it's like I said, it's a bit yeah, there's some bugs with it,
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It's a bit clunky, but I I forgive it because I just really
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want him to succeed because I respect the fact that this is
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just a guy who was like, you know what, I'm gonna make a
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fucking game and. And did and actually finished it
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in a way like I've never done. I've never done it.
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I've talked about it and I've started, but I've never actually
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made one. And he has so.
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We I started, I'm sorry, let's say you haven't started a game
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and I, I was about to say I've started a game.
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I mean, I started playing another game.
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Just to be very clear, I also started playing another game.
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This. Week.
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Or last week, because I was sick, listeners, I was so sick.
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I had the flu, flu. I had actual influenza.
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It's fucking misery. It's it's worse than COVID.
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It was awful. And I was looking for stuff.
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Don't say it's worse than COVID. You'll get we'll get fucking.
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Oh, I know, we'll get e-mail. Of course it is.
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COVID is not even real the these people that believe.
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It's going to be a fucking Wikipedia under this video on
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YouTube now. Yeah, right.
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But I was looking for stuff to play while I was just sitting
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there miserable. And for some reason I initially
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thought, I thought Drift is going to be too, just too
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hardcore. I'll play something a little bit
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lighter and I don't know why. I just clearly didn't understand
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what this other game really was 'cause I thought, Bejeweled.
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I've got the return of the Obra Din here.
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Ohh yeah. And I hadn't played that before.
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I thought, why is this like a, you know, like night old timey
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sea shanty type of game? It's fucking hardcore and
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awesome, but after a certain bit I was like, I need to not have
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the flu to play this game. You need your brain working.
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All of my brain, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But fuck. That that's a good.
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Game, though, that's a good game, yeah.
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Yeah, if very unique. Yeah, yeah, if you want another,
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if you want a unique game that's like a beautifully rendered game
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for the Apple two, yes, like it's so old school, but it's
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like but you know, like in a 3D space and and just this that
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really unique mechanic of of having to just piece together
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this mystery from these fragmented clues and.
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Very, I know it's like, how the fuck did he come up with this?
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And I, I mean, I know the answer because he talked about it.
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It was the experimentation and he eventually landed on like it.
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It wasn't didn't start out as it ended up, but he got he he got
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there via experimentation. And that's how I.
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Would be interested to hear about that.
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I wonder if I need to play all of the game first or because
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it's so I don't give myself spoilers by looking into.
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That yeah, I don't know, actually, I can't remember if
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you talked about the story or not, but yeah, yeah, very unique
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game. We basically, I think we talked
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about it a little bit before because I, I played it.
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But you're an insurance adjuster or inspector who gets sent out
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to this ship that suddenly comes back into harbour after having
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disappeared, I forget how many years ago.
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And you're from the insurance company and you get sent out to
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find out what happened and assess the situation.
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But you've also got a magic book that lets you, oh, no magic
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compass and a book. And you've got to figure out
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what happened to everybody. And you can view vignettes of
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what happened on the ship. And you have to kind of solve
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the mystery of was it who everybody is, how they died,
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what killed them or what something.
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And then where, where they ended up.
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There's like 3 pieces of information I think they have to
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figure out. It's very, very cool.
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And the the the more you learn about some things, the the the
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more pieces start to feel in place for for other parts of the
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mystery and. Yes.
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Very, very cool. But like full on, like like lots
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of death. It's eventually just walking up
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to everybody individually. Figuring out how everybody died.
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Saying How did this guy die? Yeah, yeah, it's a cool game.
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Extremely cool. So I'll be returning to that now
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that I'm well again, I'll be returning to that after I finish
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the drift to which I'm liking very much.
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I've got to return to a game. We've talked about this a little
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bit on What's That the other day, but the DLC for Indiana
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Jones is out. I think it's out, yes.
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Or it's soon to be out. Certainly soon to be out.
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Yeah, I am annoyed. Not annoyed, Disappointed that
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it's just more underground stuff in the Vatican, just because
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what I in my heart of hearts, I wanted a new location.
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Yes. Specifically, I wanted to go to
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that site in Peru that they talk about a bunch.
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Yeah, that's right. Now I understand of course why
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they chose to just use part of the game that they've already
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made, and some people do that really well, like the DLC for
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Alan Wake 2 where you revisit locations but as new characters
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or just other characters from the game.
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Genius. You know, even Bioshock
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Infinites DLC was you were you were there, but you were there
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in the past, like very cool, like, you know, this just looks
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like oh, and the day after that game you played, he went back to
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that place you were on the first day and did a bit more.
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Yeah, I mean, it seem, it does seem from the trailer, it seems
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like you unlock some new area, but it seems like it's another
14:38
underground dungeon, which I guess I mean the Indiana Jones
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does explore, you know, archaeological sites and stuff.
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Like it is a like an underground temple seems like it would be
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the right thing. But I don't know.
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I just kind of I don't know, I was like, oh, come on, let's go
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somewhere new. I just, I just really loved all
15:00
the different countries and stuff you went to and.
15:02
That was actually the best part of the game was where am I going
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next? Yeah.
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And I was really surprised by the, you know, you go to
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Thailand. I was like, yeah, cool.
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Yeah, OK. Yeah, and you don't just go
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there, you fucking spend a lot of.
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Time. It's quite a long.
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Boating around to different places and checking it out.
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So, but well, it looks. Luke got stuck in the Thailand
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section of the game and that's that's where he still is and
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that's where he is now. Actually, he's in Cambodia now,
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but by the time you hear this, he'll be in Thailand.
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Yeah, he'll be yeah. So I'm I'm excited to check it
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out. My Xbox is actually not even
15:40
plugged in right now It's so I have to re plug that in in order
15:44
to do it so. Why is your Xbox not plugged in?
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Because we don't need to get too deep into it, but I've
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rearranged certain things in this office.
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Nothing that's visible. I don't know, You can probably
15:55
tell. You might notice certain things
15:57
behind me look a little different, but I don't have ATV
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in there anymore and my Xbox is here and I'm going to have it
16:05
hooked up to this. I haven't done it yet.
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No sick and it's been been a month or so actually.
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Yeah, I've not played much on the Xbox.
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I put on Minecraft about a week ago just to to see.
16:18
If I will tend to play that on the switch.
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Oh, sure, Yeah, yeah, it's funny.
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I was at, I was at karate last night and one of the kids there,
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there's, there's karate's funny because there's like literally
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10 year old kids and fucking 70 year old dudes, like in the same
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class and they fights and some of the kids, well, some of the
16:40
kids are fucking red belts and some of the 60 year old dudes
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are white belts. Like this.
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The hierarchy is totally different to every other aspect
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of real life. But we were leaving and this
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little kid goes to me. Oh, what are you going to do
16:55
when you get home after this? And I was like, I don't know.
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Yeah, that's your business. Yeah, I was like, probably play
17:01
the Xbox and he's like, you do not have an Xbox.
17:04
I guess he just thinks I'm an old man.
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I'm like, I have had every Xbox from the original Xbox to this
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Xbox, every single fucking one. Kid, don't fucking come around
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here and. Then you do.
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Bash you and I'm in the one place where I'm allowed to do
17:22
it. Yeah, no one can tell me off for
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punching you doing the crane. It's like you don't have an Xbox
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and you're like. Fuck it, here's my Xbox.
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Yeah, I watched a movie. I don't think I've watched any
17:40
other movies, so I was in Mexico.
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Listeners, I know or witnesses? Yeah.
17:44
I don't know if we mentioned that the reason we haven't had
17:47
an episode in a while is because Luke's away.
17:51
He's going to be away for fucking ever.
17:53
He's got the wisdom away for ages. 6-7 weeks or some.
17:55
Something to wait for. It's a long holiday.
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He's extended it. Certainly the longest vacation
18:00
I've. Ever.
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Because. Because he.
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Was never had. A long vacation.
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And then he was mum was like, I want to come over and watch what
18:05
you're doing in Thailand. And he was like, oh.
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Yeah. You want to watch what I'm doing
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in Thailand? I don't think you do, Mum.
18:13
Did you say who I'm doing or what I'm doing?
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So he's gone for a while, but he's he'll pop in and out from
18:20
Yeah, because he's in the after party this week.
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He's in the after party you popped in this week.
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Yeah, Dan's been sick and I was in Mexico, so that's why we
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haven't had an episode. Mexico.
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Great. Fucking hot.
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Anything you wanted to do? Yeah.
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Saw some cool shit. Saw some.
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I was. I felt like Indiana Jones.
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Not really too touristy for that, but.
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Yeah, but still, I know. I know the feeling you're like.
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Yeah, it's cool. I'm looking at a ruin and I'm
18:47
wearing a hat, so yeah, this is as close.
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As I got to say, it's the first wonder of the world I've seen.
18:54
It's modern wonder of the world, you know, They rejigger the
18:56
wonders. Around a bit, yeah, that, yeah.
18:58
So that's Chichen Itza, although sorry the the temple of Kukulkan
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in particular. I've seen the Great Wall of
19:04
China. That's got to be one of them.
19:06
I'm sure it is, yeah. But yeah, the the the pyramid of
19:12
temple of Kukulkan impressive. Yeah, very interested to see
19:16
that. Glad you've.
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Seen it. I can see why Graham Hancock is
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is kind of obsessed with it because the guy our tour guide
19:23
pointed out there's just a lot there that's just like, fuck,
19:27
man, how did they do that? I mean, I know how it's because
19:29
they had nothing but time and at night in fucking Mexico in
19:34
whenever the, you know, early aughts, whatever at night this
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everything was just apparent, like it didn't have light
19:44
pollution or anything. So you look up and that's what
19:46
was there. So I mean, it probably wasn't as
19:48
difficult as. Yeah, plus, sorry, it was 1.
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That sounded condescending. Of course it was fucking
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difficult. Had to do what he said.
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He had no choice. So I.
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Didn't mean to say it wasn't difficult to build.
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What I mean is to observe in a way that we don't observe the
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sky. They did because that was TV to
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them, sort of. So you've got the pyramid.
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I can't see a fucking single spy around here.
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Yeah, it's disappointing. When we travelled around, we
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were in Montana in the middle of fucking nowhere in Montana at
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night, pulled over, looked up, incredible.
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And it blows my mind that that's there and we just can't see it
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because we have fucked it. Yeah, we've ruined it for
20:27
ourselves. Yeah.
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Too much the light pollution. When you go out into the
20:30
country, well, I was in Perth, which is I was an hour outside
20:34
of Perth, and Perth is a small city to begin with and I was an
20:36
hour outside of it. So we had the spectrum, but it's
20:39
like you forget that you can literally see the literal Milky.
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Way, yes, yeah, I know. And then like I say.
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Visible to the naked eye. And it's like, I've seen it.
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I'm like, I know it's there. Why, you know, can't we all
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agree just to turn the lights off so we can see it some more?
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And it's just at midnight, everything goes off, so I can
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fucking look at this shit. It's.
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Like like Johannesburg just shut the power off.
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Yeah, just fucking yeah. They must love it down there,
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yeah. Pick it like it's fucking
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Joburg. But yeah, the fucking pyramid,
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the front of it faces north and it's got 365 steps to represent
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the days of the year. It's just all these fucking
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things about it that's just like, that's fucking sick.
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And then when you stand at the bottom, I've seen videos of
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this, right? And I've got to say it's
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completely different being there and and witnessing this, right?
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You stand at the front of the pyramid with the steps going up.
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And if you clap, the sound of your clap goes up.
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And then when it comes out of the temple at the top, it goes
21:41
like a bird. Oh shit.
21:43
And it's like, and it's very impressive like.
21:48
I can imagine now why Graham Hancock's there going this is
21:51
this, there's something. Going on here, Yeah, like the
21:53
solstices, the fucking steps of the big steps of the pyramid
21:57
form the body of the snake on the snake that runs like it's
22:00
just so much about it. This is just like man,
22:02
impressive. Because also, I don't want to be
22:05
condescending again, but they made this before they invented
22:11
writing, right? It's not like.
22:15
No, I think so. The Mayans actually, so they
22:18
had, we went to early. The Chichenitsa is kind of like
22:20
a later version of it. Like we went to some earlier
22:23
ones too. And it's kind of like you can
22:24
tell like like the the prototype ideas and stuff like that.
22:30
Like you can tell that they've they've they did this for a
22:32
long, long time and then eventually they got this thing
22:34
Chichenitsa. And it's impressive that the
22:35
that that pyramid is in the condition that it is based on
22:38
the others, which are kind of fucked.
22:42
Am I right in thinking it was pretty much covered with dirt
22:44
until like the 1850s or? Something.
22:46
Oh, that could be true, yeah. Like I think people thought it
22:48
was a mountain for ages. Yeah, that would explain it.
22:51
Because they observed. Yeah, I've learned a lot of
22:55
interesting stuff about, I don't know, listeners, maybe don't
22:58
they care that much, But I just just the fact that they had like
23:00
a bunch of sites and they would just move between them and they
23:02
built these. They built like reservoirs that
23:05
would fill with the rainwater and then so they would just move
23:07
from place to place and when they ran out of water at one
23:10
place, they'd go to the next one and the the rain had filled them
23:13
up. I'm just like oh shit, so smart.
23:15
Yeah. And the gods that they
23:17
worshipped in each particular place were different because
23:19
like, like the reason it's the temple Kuku Khan is because the
23:24
Kuku Khan is the serpent represents fertility.
23:26
And the the crops just didn't grow as well there as some of
23:30
their other places. So they're like, well, we'd
23:32
better get the fucking snake in here to fix it.
23:34
Yeah. So that's, that's why it's his
23:35
temple. Like is.
23:38
He all so practical. He got a big Dick.
23:40
It says snake. Oh, OK, sorry.
23:42
I see your photo and I don't know if you thought I was
23:44
joking, but I was not joking. They literally made a big stone
23:48
Dick. Yeah, the guy, I mean, he didn't
23:51
describe it. This.
23:52
He said that's a stone phallus that they built to to fertilize
23:57
the Earth. Yeah.
23:59
And like planet Earth, there is a big Dick fucking the Earth.
24:04
Love it. I did assume you were joking,
24:06
but I'm very happy that you weren't.
24:08
Unless he was joking and I didn't understand that he was
24:11
joking. Doesn't matter, but it certainly
24:13
looks like that. You can't ask him.
24:14
So we're we're just going to know this as a fact for the rest
24:17
of our lives. Yeah, that's great.
24:18
Yeah, anyway, he had a great time.
24:22
Yeah, awesome. I got really close to a
24:25
crocodile. Did you see that video?
24:26
That fucking crocodile. Yeah, right.
24:29
Did you, Jenna, send this? I don't know.
24:32
Jenna, send it to you guys. I'll, I'll send it to you.
24:36
My phone's. Recording this crocodilian
24:39
experience. This needs to be on on the
24:41
multiple orgasm. I so we're, we're on this boat
24:45
trip in a, in a river. And so we get in the boat and
24:47
then they're like, oh, you know, you might see crocodiles, you
24:49
might see flamingos. We saw all of that stuff, which
24:52
is great. So we pull out and then
24:54
literally as soon as we leave the dock, we go up the river a
24:56
little bit and then this fucking crocodile swims out like a like
25:00
a pretty big crocodile. And I was like, oh, shit.
25:02
And then the guy, the guy driving the boat leans in and
25:05
starts splashing to like get it to come over.
25:08
And I was like, fucking. OH, and S here in Mexico,
25:11
obviously don't fucking. Do that.
25:12
What are you doing mate? Just leave him alone.
25:14
And then so it fucking swims over and I swear to God, it's
25:17
like such that a meter from me, like right there in the water
25:21
looking at me. And then it was one of those
25:24
moments where in my head I was like, I could touch that.
25:27
Yeah, right now I could put my finger on its nose.
25:30
But and then, but then the other part of my brain was like, don't
25:33
fucking do that, mate. But there was a little bit of me
25:36
that was like, I wonder if I could have got away with that.
25:38
Yeah, I I think got away with in terms of no one telling you to
25:44
stop being a dickhead and put your.
25:45
Hand in maybe. I don't think he would have
25:47
given a shit. They've got away with it.
25:49
As in kept your hand correct? Yeah.
25:53
I mean, it could have just dragged me into the water if I
25:56
had tried. Yeah.
25:58
And obviously part of my brain knew that.
26:00
But they were like I said, you know, there's just that bitty,
26:02
that little shit in your brain that's like.
26:05
Again, the person. Just pick it's knives mate.
26:06
Just pick it one of the knives. That's right.
26:09
Stick your finger up its bum. Yeah, we we did a dolphin
26:12
cruise, which is just the cruise, but there's always
26:15
dolphins there. But this is the same thing.
26:17
You have your. I mean, you can touch the water
26:18
on the sides and they come right up.
26:19
And you probably shouldn't be touching a dolphin.
26:22
Yeah, I really do want to. Yeah, dolphins are pretty safe,
26:27
right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:30
I mean, but I don't, I'm more concerned of like, oh.
26:33
You're going to hurt the dolphin.
26:35
Yeah, like some dolphin gets a common cold and all dolphins.
26:38
Are dead. I don't want to give the dolphin
26:39
my aid, Sydney. Tuts yeah, that's right.
26:42
Just don't put it in the blowhole.
26:47
Yeah, it's the closest I've ever been to a closest I've been to a
26:49
crocodile without some sort of protection between me and.
26:52
Yeah, because I was going to say when I was at Sum Zoo, and I
26:55
can't remember which one, there's a fucking crocodile tank
27:00
with The crocodile just fucking lays against the glass.
27:03
Yes. And he's like 3 metres long and
27:05
he's just fucking stares at you. And you could touch the glass if
27:09
you like, if you wanted to. I didn't want to, but like, even
27:13
even that's terrifying. Yeah, because I was.
27:16
It's one of those things where I like I noticed like I sits on
27:21
there, the crocodile's there and I, I was literally thinking
27:23
like, I'm less terrified than I would have expected I would be
27:27
in this situation just because I don't know why.
27:31
I was just like, oh. I think there's probably
27:35
evolutionary fear that's been bred out of us now because you
27:40
knew you were on a boat, you know, and you're like, I
27:43
couldn't possibly, this couldn't be a sustainable business if
27:46
even one person got eaten by a crocodile.
27:48
Because I'm I and the guy that I, it's there looking at me.
27:51
And at one point I was like, like, is this OK?
27:55
And then the guy, I remember the guy saying, no, no, he's OK,
27:59
He's happy. And I was like, oh.
28:02
Good. Yeah.
28:03
Good. All right.
28:05
Yeah. Yeah.
28:08
So this was also definitely a crocodile, not an alligator.
28:12
That's what they have. Definitely a crocodile.
28:13
Yeah, definitely a crocodile because I don't like I said, I
28:15
was send you. We were used.
28:17
To in Australia, we're used to our versions of things only
28:20
being here. I'll throw up on the Patreon to
28:24
either the video or a photo cause Jenna took about Jenna
28:26
took a video of, of it. I was, I, I did forget to do
28:31
that, take videos and photos. So obviously I was somewhat
28:34
affected by the situation because I was yeah, yeah,
28:36
fucking staring at this thing. But it was fun.
28:39
But you did find time to watch a movie or?
28:41
You've seen We watched it last night.
28:43
Actually, a certain film that I didn't get to see in the
28:48
theaters has become available on streaming.
28:51
I watched F1, the movie I'm. Glad that's available now
28:54
because I also missed it in the cinemas, but I will watch it
28:57
this week, this very week. I enjoyed it.
29:01
It is, I mean, it's if you like Top Gun Maverick, it's yeah,
29:07
this. I'm sure people have already
29:09
said this, but it's it's silly in a way, but in a in a fun way
29:13
where it's like they were serious.
29:16
I'm glad that movies are going back to that.
29:18
Yeah. It's it's they're taking
29:19
themselves very seriously for a long.
29:21
Time it feels like an old school movie where it's just like,
29:24
obviously this is nonsense, but fine.
29:26
Like it's a it's not about that. It's a story about, you know,
29:30
somebody story about or, or a bunch of.
29:33
People drive a very fast car and they let him.
29:35
Yes. And then obviously none of this
29:37
would actually happen in the real world, but it doesn't
29:39
matter. And then there was some bits as
29:41
as someone who watches formula. One wheel world and was.
29:44
That a the wheel on on. We could pretend it was.
29:47
We call it the episode The Wheel World.
29:48
Yeah, we'll lean into it. OK.
29:49
I'm just writing Wheel World. The wheel world, there's stuff
29:55
in it. As a Formula One fan, I'm
29:58
familiar with Formula One, quite familiar.
29:59
And there's certain things in this that I was like, hang on a
30:02
minute, OK, But like, not to the point where I actually gave a
30:06
shit 'cause it's not a, it doesn't take itself.
30:08
Seriously, 'cause they must also know that at no point did
30:11
somebody not say that's not actually how that works.
30:13
Yes, because I don't want to give spoilers for anything in
30:17
particular. But like no one at certain times
30:20
there'll be a an accident and then they go, oh, it's a yellow
30:23
flag and it's 'cause it's all part of the plot and, and things
30:26
like that. And then but then someone will
30:28
crash and then they just keep, I've done this intense race,
30:30
someone crashes whatever and I was like, they would have
30:32
stopped this fucking. Race.
30:33
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This would be a 45 minute delay.
30:36
Yeah, exactly. They're not.
30:38
They are not continuing to drive at this point.
30:40
But yeah. Yeah.
30:42
Whatever, but just in terms of watching nice cars.
30:46
The yeah, some of the racing footage is incredible because
30:49
they've got these cameras. I don't know if you've seen some
30:51
of the behind the scenes stuff. They've obviously mounted a
30:55
camera on the car and it can like whip around.
30:59
And so it, it does like it'll be going going and it'll like whip
31:02
around to see, you know, Brad Pitt driving or whatever.
31:05
It's very, yeah, good, good, intense driving footage.
31:08
Possibly the best ever I'd say. Like as far as getting you in
31:12
there stuff. As well I assume.
31:14
Yeah, and that they do stuff with they, they filmed this
31:17
during race weekends and stuff like that.
31:18
So like there's literally a bit where Brad, Brad Pitt's racing
31:21
fucking checker and it's clearly, it's like it's really
31:24
Checo in the Red Bull and Brad Pitt's racing and they just
31:27
filmed it. It's like, yeah, it's very cool.
31:30
And they're all in there. Like all the the drivers are in
31:34
there like like Hamilton, Verstappen.
31:37
Like, and all those themselves, obviously, like they don't,
31:40
they're not playing, Yeah. All of them.
31:41
Like there's bits where Brad Pitt's like racing against
31:44
Hamilton and Leclerc and it's like, oh, Charles Leclerc's
31:46
coming around the outside or whatever.
31:48
It's just like, oh, it's cool. It's like really them, OK.
31:51
I got to I got to watch this. I got to watch this.
31:55
I did make some joyful movies this week and I I watched 2
32:01
movies about aliens, which is not unusual for for me or for.
32:05
Any as in the alien from aliens? I'm not going to use the Z word.
32:08
The X word. No, it wasn't.
32:09
It wasn't any of the ZS. It wasn't John Xenomorph wasn't
32:12
any of those one. One was good and one was
32:17
excellent, and I'll just quickly get the excellent one out of the
32:21
way. I fucking re watched for the
32:23
first time. As in the second time.
32:26
I've only ever watched this a rival.
32:29
Oh yeah, that is a fucking good movie.
32:33
Like. So good.
32:37
Yeah, Denise, good. It made me feel like I would
32:44
have felt in a first contact situation more than any other
32:50
movie I think. Yeah, yeah, 'cause it's got
32:54
that. It's like the, the, I mean, it's
32:56
all about communication really. And like how do.
32:59
Yeah. So it's it nails all that.
33:02
Stuff when she's listening to the the the way they reveal it,
33:06
they've not even shown the fucking ship, let alone the
33:09
alien. You hear the language first
33:11
because they're going to a linguist, right?
33:14
She listens to it and you hear this fucking weird sound and
33:17
you're like, fucking hell, that's an alien.
33:19
Like that sound is an alien. And then she you don't even
33:23
think to, but she thinks to ask how many of them are talking.
33:26
And Forest Whitaker goes that's two.
33:29
That's that's, that's the other one replying to him.
33:33
And you're like, fuck, like. And and she hasn't even seen the
33:38
ship, you know, let alone fucking hell.
33:40
So good. So yeah, it's great.
33:44
One of the one of the best. The other Alien movie I watched
33:46
this week was Superman. Yeah, here's my.
33:53
Yeah, David Corns Corn Sweat. Corn Sweat.
33:56
Corn Sweat is an excellent Superman, and this is a pretty
34:01
damn good Superman movie. I'm not like fucking in love
34:06
with it like I think other people are, but it's perfectly
34:10
good. I enjoyed every frame of it.
34:13
Perfectly happy for this to be Part 1 of a 10 film series now.
34:19
Lots to like about it. If you were going to criticize
34:25
it. It also didn't do much.
34:28
It didn't bring anything new to it and it didn't didn't explore
34:32
kind of unexplored areas. I'm a fan of Man of Steel and he
34:38
did do that, you know, it gave them some new perspectives and
34:42
this, you know, super meta humans as gods and all this
34:44
stuff like this. This didn't really do any of
34:46
that. It was just them cracking wise
34:48
but luckily. I liked both versions, yeah.
34:51
And I think Superman can be both things.
34:52
So yeah, good. Yeah, cool.
34:55
Yeah, I. Thought it was fun, chemistry
34:56
good. Jimmy Alton.
34:58
Fucking hilarious. Have you seen the the Hulk girl
35:07
thing going around? There's a it's a Reddit.
35:13
Thing at the moment people have have gotten a little bit
35:14
obsessed with her. Well, I mean, yeah, she's she's
35:17
hot. And there's a particular frame
35:20
that I guess that used for promo or something that is very, I
35:24
mean, it's what someone points it out.
35:25
It's hard not to notice that it it, it if you, if you want it to
35:29
be it. It's a very sexual picture, but
35:34
it's not. But like, let me see if I can
35:36
find it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:37
Let's have a look at this because I, I did see online too,
35:40
on on fucking Facebook of all places.
35:42
Someone is literally someone just wrote, This is why I went
35:45
to see Superman. And it's literally just this
35:47
shot of Lois Lane sitting at a desk and you can see up a skirt
35:50
a little bit. It's like, come.
35:53
On this is a Reddit post of somebody saying what is with
35:56
this fucking image of hot girl? But then if you click through
35:59
the image, I mean, yeah, your brain can it's.
36:05
Better be the most delicious thing I've ever.
36:07
It's not. It's not.
36:08
But you you're not. Yeah, I know what you mean.
36:10
OK, yeah, yeah. If you've already got an
36:12
erection, you see this picture away.
36:16
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.
36:19
She was good though. She was she good character, good
36:22
characterization. Yes, I think I've mentioned this
36:25
on the show though. But that fucking noise she makes
36:27
when she's like fire? You're terrifying.
36:32
Yeah, but in a great way of me laughing.
36:35
Because also the cameras in this really obtuse angle of her face
36:38
as it's just fucking flying around going.
36:41
Around. Yeah, she's swinging this mesh
36:42
around. Yeah, yeah, it's great.
36:45
Yeah, I did like that. Like everyone's got their own
36:49
shtick and they don't give a shit about it.
36:54
You're like, she's not trying to look cool, you know, just doing
36:57
her thing, being Hawk Girl. Yeah, Nathan feeling's good in
37:00
it too. Actually, that whole that, yeah,
37:02
it's just, I mean, it's very James Gunn.
37:04
I think that's yeah. Like, for good, for for better
37:07
or worse, it's very James Gunn. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:14
It's not a serious movie. No, but it.
37:19
And it has less. I would say it's got less and
37:21
it's got some emotional like the core to it with his, you know,
37:25
his parents and his the whole thing.
37:27
But it's not in the not like Guardians 2 I think had a lot
37:32
more of that and. Even guardians one.
37:36
Guardians 1 was fucking emotional ass.
37:39
Yeah, just that bit at the end where they're all holding hands
37:42
and then fucking rock. Yeah, poor comes up.
37:44
Like, it's just it fucking gets here in ways that even this
37:47
doesn't manage to do. Guardians is is an exceptional
37:50
movie. Yeah.
37:51
And that's not to say I don't think he failed because he was
37:53
trying. I think just just has less of
37:54
that stuff in it. Yeah, yeah.
37:57
And I thought Lex Litho was good.
38:00
Lex. My favorite sequence in this is.
38:04
Overpowered, if I'm honest, like you know, but.
38:08
Whatever. Yeah, it's hard to get the you
38:10
mean like to it was just too much balancing meta humans with
38:16
actual humans kind of thing. Yeah, that's hard though, I
38:18
think like. Oh yeah, I'm not going to sit
38:20
here and nitpick. It was, it was.
38:23
It was way good enough to not need to nitpick.
38:29
My favorite sequence in it, I think is the and I didn't think
38:33
I was going to like it as much just from when it started was
38:36
the. But you know, when he gets out
38:38
of the slight spoilers, I suppose when Superman bust out
38:41
of the prison thing and he gets caught in that fucking positron
38:45
river or whatever the hell it is.
38:47
And then there's like a black hole and like the fucking what's
38:51
the element, Mr. Element or whatever element man or
38:54
whatever. He's like a fucking tentacle
38:56
thing at that point. And then Krypto's there and it's
38:59
just that sequence of them, like trying to get out of those black
39:01
hole. And yeah, that bit in the
39:03
theatre, I was just like, yeah, I like this, this is cool.
39:06
Yeah, this is fucking weird in a way that I love.
39:10
Yes, that's a great way to describe it actually, because
39:13
also, you know, like everyone, all the fanboy, all the Zack
39:16
Snyder fanboys posted that shot from the trailer where you sees
39:19
like him flying and next. Oh, sure, Cavil and Bin, like
39:22
fucking it's goofy. And it's like, yeah, but it is
39:24
goofy. He's doing a goofy movie.
39:26
He's doing a goofy version of this and it's OK.
39:28
Yeah, you would not see that sequence of the black hole thing
39:31
in a fucking Zack Snyder movie. Yeah, that's right.
39:33
But. I really liked that bit because
39:36
it, like I said, it's just weird like.
39:38
Yeah, yeah. But in the way that the comics
39:40
were weird. Oh yeah, especially the comics
39:45
that that this movie is referencing.
39:47
I mean, we've got almost 100 years worth of comics at this
39:51
point, right? Sure.
39:53
So the era of this is, yeah, I mean, this is all very, very
39:56
true to the source. Yeah, yeah.
39:59
It's not a serious dark no take on it.
40:01
It's A and it doesn't have to. Be it doesn't try to be and and
40:04
the same with what you said about F1 being a little bit
40:07
cheesy like this is fun. Movies isn't meant to be fun.
40:09
It's fine. Yeah, let's just have fun.
40:12
I agree. I liked, I like Supergirl.
40:15
I like her little scene. Oh yeah, funny.
40:18
Yeah, people are the same people.
40:20
They didn't like that either because it's like, yeah.
40:23
Yeah, yeah, it undercuts it. I mean, if if anything, I think
40:27
James Gunn almost lapses into self parody sometimes when he's
40:32
like, does the big set up and then a jokey undercut, you know,
40:36
like, he does it a lot in this movie.
40:38
Yeah, but it works so well that you can't fault him.
40:41
You know, it's his thing. You can't call him on it.
40:46
Carneswood is just very good. I think if thing if he wasn't as
40:49
good as he is, the movie might not have worked.
40:52
Yeah, he's. Like when he's like.
40:54
I don't even recognize him, but he's from Pearl.
40:58
Yeah, I know, right? Crazy.
41:00
Have you seen that photo of him in the test shoot where he's in
41:04
an early version of the suit? It's like he's, I've seen the
41:08
the photo without the trunks. I've seen that, yeah.
41:09
Without the trunks. Yeah, but he also hasn't dyed
41:11
his hair black, so he's still got the kind of Blondie like,
41:13
brown Pearl hair, right? OK, so he looks more like the
41:17
guy from Pearl. Yeah, OK.
41:21
He's a dog and he's like, yeah, and he's not even a good dog,
41:24
but. But he's out there and he's
41:28
probably scared. You need.
41:29
To go and. Get him.
41:30
That's another thing that there's a this it just I
41:33
remember what when I saw in the theater, I was just there's a
41:35
bit where he when he slice balls, rescues crypto from that
41:39
situation. He flies in, smashes through,
41:46
but I forget, smashes through something like computer or
41:48
something like that. And then he stops.
41:50
But he doesn't like not in like in a Zack Snyder movie where
41:54
Superman's so fast he'll fly and he'll just stop.
41:57
He like slides, like he like turns and then like slides to a
42:01
stop and it just looks sick. And I that too.
42:04
I remember in the theatre I was just like, sick.
42:08
They also do this thing where they like they speed up certain
42:12
bits that the meta humans do, like just some of their
42:16
movements. And the only thing that like
42:18
it's, it's actually uncinematic because, but in a good way, you
42:24
know, like it's, and like, you remember double the fist, like
42:29
how like all the violent scenes were just like, you know, you,
42:33
you punch a guy and then you just cut out three or 4 frames
42:36
so that you just punch him on the ground.
42:39
Like they were, they were doing stuff like that.
42:40
And it was just making me laugh. It was just making it fun.
42:44
Yeah. Yeah.
42:46
So we could have doubled the fist.
42:47
I've been listening to Craig's podcast quite a bit.
42:49
It's really good. Yeah, I, I spoke to Craig today
42:53
actually, and I asked him Dark City.
42:56
Yeah, I've got that, I've got it.
42:58
Do you have you listened to his commentary?
43:00
Yet, no, no, I bought it and it, I mean, I haven't had time, but
43:03
yeah, it came, I know, a couple of weeks ago.
43:07
So I will though. He told me a story, but I wonder
43:10
if I'm allowed to tell it. Well, he didn't say I couldn't
43:12
tell it. He.
43:14
Probably didn't realize he had to Dan.
43:18
True, I can't see that anything bad would come up now.
43:24
You know what? I'll just.
43:24
I'll tell you later. I'll tell you later.
43:26
All right. There's something else in here.
43:30
I just meant for some reason my brain is like, there's something
43:34
else. Really.
43:34
It's tangential to Craig in here.
43:36
I can't remember what it is. Wasps.
43:41
Dean Cain, OH. Fucking it's tangential to
43:44
Superman. Yeah, we talk about Dean Cain.
43:46
Dean Cain's. Oh man.
43:48
So we did talk. We we touched on Dean Cain a
43:50
couple of. Weeks ago, because he's been
43:52
mouthing off about this Superman, this.
43:54
Shit now? So he's.
43:56
Yeah, the other week. Do you know what I'll say?
43:58
OK, follow up from what we said the other week, you know, we had
44:00
that rant about how Superman used to be truth, justice in the
44:04
American way, right? That's that's actually not the
44:08
case. Superman has said that a couple
44:12
of times throughout history. He says it in the Richard Donner
44:16
film. Yeah.
44:18
But he did not for, for for 100, you know, 100 years or whatever
44:22
Superman's been around say that all the time.
44:24
It was introduced during World War 2.
44:26
Yeah. And then it went away, and then
44:29
it was. Brought back cartoons, right?
44:30
That that put it in the opening voice over fighting for truth,
44:33
justice, amendment, yeah. Right.
44:35
Yeah, so. So no, it's not it's not
44:37
Superman's catch phrase. It's just a thing that he said
44:39
from time to time and they. Used it were Nazis.
44:42
Right. And they used it in the 1980s
44:44
film because at that point. Why wouldn't you know?
44:47
Americans were proud to be American.
44:51
Less so today. Some general, apparently.
44:53
Yeah, Exactly. Yeah.
44:54
Dean Kane still is. So that's not that's not
44:57
anything. But also, Dean Kane has now said
45:00
he's going to join ICE. And I guess people are, you
45:05
know, not happy about that just because I don't know.
45:11
I don't know. ICE sees a bit of an overreach
45:14
at the moment to me what ICE is doing, let's put it that way.
45:18
Yeah, that's a, that's a nice PC way to to to save it.
45:22
Yeah. And then he's also, he's very
45:24
upset that people are questioning why he would do that
45:29
because he thinks it's quite obvious that you would want to
45:31
uphold the law. And yeah, I guess he seems to
45:34
think that's what he's doing. So somebody specific who's
45:38
asking why you would why you would do this is actor John
45:41
Leguizamo. Oh, yeah, yeah.
45:43
From from the Super Mario Brothers movie.
45:46
Yeah, or John. John Wick.
45:48
Yeah, yeah. John Wick.
45:49
Yeah. And he has had this to say about
45:52
it. What kind of loser volunteers to
45:56
be an ICE officer? What a moron.
45:59
Dean Kane, your pronouns are, has, and been.
46:07
That's good. Yeah, I just don't.
46:12
You know what's so funny? I look with this picture here of
46:14
Dean Cayman, I'm like, oh, hugging as an old man.
46:16
I remember thinking he was so cool when I was young, but he
46:18
just looks like like an like a retired football player.
46:22
And then I realized that's exactly what he is.
46:23
He is, yeah. Yeah.
46:26
And he was AUS Marshall or something or other.
46:28
He was in. Apparently he was in law
46:30
enforcement for some room, which I guess.
46:33
Steven Seagal was or like a legit.
46:36
I could say Steven Seagal is infinitely more interesting than
46:39
Dean Kane. Yeah, I I love Steven Seagal.
46:42
I love his movies. I love him as a person.
46:44
Oh, you know, I don't want to be friends with him.
46:46
Don't give me wrong. I.
46:47
Think I see that video that with the guys trying to write down
46:51
Drew a diagram of Steven Seagal's background where?
46:55
And then it's like my mother was a Mongolian sheep herder.
47:00
She was Italian, yes. That's some of these Native
47:04
American. Yeah, I'm a I'm a Cherokee
47:07
Indian on my mother's side. And then he's like trying to
47:09
draw all this shit on the white board.
47:11
It's like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:14
Nonsense. Very, very entertaining.
47:19
Has entertained me my entire life.
47:21
When I was a kid in the 80s, he entertained me with his films
47:24
and today, like as a middle-aged man, he still entertains me just
47:29
as a person who now lives in Russia.
47:32
Just a strange, strange man. Yeah.
47:38
We've got some follow up we could do.
47:41
We've got a couple of pieces of follow up.
47:42
I think 1 is that Disney has settled with Gina Carano and
47:48
this is there's been some conversation about this because,
47:55
yeah, we talked about the fact that she's saying, oh, she got
47:57
fired. And that's why a lot of people
47:58
are saying Disney fired her for her, her, you know, right wing
48:01
opinions. Whereas, you know, a lot of
48:05
people like us have argued you can't be fired if you don't have
48:08
a job. You just didn't get the job.
48:10
Yeah, you just didn't get a new contract.
48:12
So, yeah, yeah. So it's not quite the same
48:14
thing. And the only reason apparently
48:17
Disney settled is because there is some grey area in that.
48:22
In California, a verbal agreement can be legally
48:26
binding. And I think what's happened is
48:28
they've said you might lose on that basis if she can make the
48:32
case that you told her she would, because they did say that
48:35
she was going to have that show with oh.
48:37
Yes. Right.
48:37
Those rebel guys, they said you might lose on that basis because
48:41
even though it wasn't a contract, you know, on paper,
48:44
yeah, it was a thing everyone knew about.
48:47
Especially, I suppose, if that's a California law, California's
48:51
the only place in America, or really the world outside of like
48:54
Bollywood maybe, where you could reasonably argue that being an
48:59
actor is a normal job. Sure.
49:02
Yeah, and that your your work needs to be protected.
49:05
Yeah. And I, I'm like, I mean, we all
49:07
knew she was supposed to be in that show, so I think it
49:10
wouldn't be difficult for her to prove.
49:11
Yes, she wasn't fired, but it was also very, very obvious what
49:15
happened. She said something Disney
49:17
doesn't like, and she wasn't a Disney girl anymore.
49:20
And I don't, I wouldn't frame it as she got fired from just
49:23
having a different political opinions.
49:25
She got fired because she was a liability.
49:27
Yeah, as far as publicity because of what she was saying,
49:30
I think that's different. But you know.
49:35
So she getting some money, is that what's happening or?
49:37
Yes, yeah, she's been. She's been paid out, I believe.
49:42
I don't know how much. Let me check.
49:43
Maybe it says or maybe we don't know.
49:48
They've settled. No, it doesn't say.
49:51
It just says the lawsuit concluded.
49:53
We look forward to identifying opportunities to work together
49:55
with Miss Carrano in the near future.
49:57
I'm sure they're just saying that to be nice, but yeah, yeah,
50:00
yeah. OK, well there you go.
50:04
Now unfortunately, her career is probably pretty much over at
50:08
this point anyway unless she just keeps making.
50:11
Who's was it Dave Shapiro or someone fucking who was going to
50:14
fun. Shapiro, Yeah, Ben Shapiro's
50:17
company, They did, yeah, she did some action movie with them.
50:19
It was or Western that I've. I haven't seen it.
50:22
I'm not going to watch it. I heard it wasn't that great.
50:25
Whatever. Yeah, I mean, I don't listen to
50:26
anything Bing Shapiro says or does.
50:29
I occasionally laugh at the. I did see someone respond to his
50:33
Superman review. He didn't like Superman.
50:35
Oh no, that might that'll that'll shock you.
50:37
But he decided he didn't like it because of the word immigrant
50:40
was used in press before. Pretty sure he was even out.
50:43
And then I saw someone respond to it and say because he was in
50:45
his review, it was just clips from Ben Shapiro's review.
50:47
He was talking about how like, why is Lex Luthor obsessed with
50:49
land? And then also a clip from
50:51
earlier on where he was talking about how the donor Superman is
50:54
the best movie and the guy was like, did you watch the Richard
50:58
Donner Superman? Do you remember what Lex Luthor
51:01
is literally fucking doing in that movie?
51:03
Like. Yeah, Arizona.
51:05
Land is all Lex Luthor cares about in these.
51:08
Movies. And in fact, there's a bit where
51:09
he's just standing there and he goes land.
51:11
Land yes he played the clip from that so it's like yeah he's.
51:15
Fucking excellent. You know what's funny?
51:17
I watched the Donner movies this year, earlier this year when I
51:22
was a kid, I didn't understand that Lex Luce's fucking lair was
51:27
an abandoned subway tunnel. It was half flooded and that's
51:31
why there was a pool that you could walk out of a tunnel and
51:35
up some stairs in and out of. Like I just thought that was a
51:39
unique pool that Lex Luthor had in his house.
51:42
Like right. But it literally it took me
51:44
until this watch before I went, oh, he's in a flooded.
51:48
Subway flooded subway tunnel. I don't know why I never picked
51:50
up on that before. Well, you know.
51:54
Surely I've seen it between being 5 and and then this year,
51:59
but it just never even just didn't compute.
52:01
No, I should. I'm thinking I should watch it
52:02
again. It's very good.
52:04
Supermento is also very good. But now you've got the you've
52:06
got the dilemma of whether to watch the Donna cut, non Donna
52:10
cut, because half the stuff you liked in that movie is not from
52:14
Richard Donna and he's taken out of that movie.
52:16
There's a lot of improvements in the Donna cut, but there's a lot
52:19
of stuff that you're like, I see why they changed it.
52:21
Yeah, OK, maybe I have to watch both.
52:24
Yeah, or they do another final cut where somebody just
52:28
objectively picks the best things.
52:30
Yeah, like the the Blade Runner final cut.
52:33
Yeah, yeah. Oh well, there's some Ridley
52:37
Scott news this week. I can't remember what it was,
52:39
though. Has.
52:42
Scott written a comic book. Did I read something about that?
52:45
I. Don't know, he might have.
52:49
Alien Earth is out. I haven't watched it yet, I've
52:51
heard good things about it. Same I also we don't have to
52:56
Harper on about this because we've we've had this discussion,
52:59
but I dropped out of watching for some for whatever reason.
53:02
I dropped out of watching fallout.
53:04
I only watched a couple of episodes.
53:05
Season 2 trailer's out. Yes, trailer dropped for season
53:08
2. Some stuff in that trailer made
53:10
me go. I need to give season 1.
53:12
Another go New Vegas the. First episode, yeah, the New
53:15
Vegas stuff. So I watched the first episode
53:17
last night and I was like, I don't know why I got lost in
53:20
this. It's very, very good.
53:21
So I'm I'm in and I want to watch more.
53:24
I'll watch more right after this recording.
53:26
Yeah, yeah, no, I like to. I like season 1.
53:28
I do. I mean, I watch the season 2
53:31
trailer and I have I guess I'm old now.
53:33
I I forgotten a lot of what happened in season 1 already.
53:37
So. Oh.
53:37
I deal with everything I want to watch Foundation and I'm like, I
53:41
can tell you what this is about anymore.
53:44
Yeah, I would have 3 versions. Of one king and a mural.
53:48
Yeah, it's the young, the middle-aged and the the old
53:51
version of him. Yeah.
53:52
I watched the 1st 2 episodes of a six part series because it's
53:56
British and that's just what they do that I think you will
53:58
enjoy. Called Bookish, which is
54:01
written, directed by and starring Mr. Mark Gattis.
54:05
Oh yeah. And he plays a detective slash
54:10
bookshop owner called Mr. Book, right?
54:14
Right. It is set in post war London.
54:17
Like literally just post war. So like bomb craters, unexploded
54:22
shit, still angry about the Nazis and solves murders.
54:28
I like the I the sound of that. Oh I like the look of this too.
54:30
Yeah, yeah. All right.
54:34
Yeah. Mike Garrison with a little hat
54:37
with a yeah. And it seems to be, if it's all
54:43
like this, is that each mystery takes 2 episodes.
54:47
So episodes one and two were one case.
54:49
Episodes three and four so far are one case.
54:53
That's all I've gone up to. Check this out.
54:56
I wonder if it's on Brit Box? Let's find.
54:59
Out his wife in it. I was staring at going, who is
55:03
this? She's like an attractive older
55:04
woman and I'm like, I swear I've seen her before.
55:07
And I, of course, went to IMDb. You remember Rome?
55:10
Remember the show Rome? I do.
55:13
You know that fucking beautiful like aristocrat woman who like
55:18
never wore? Her.
55:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, She looks quite
55:25
different. Yes, she looks very different
55:28
because she's like fucking 20, at least years older than she
55:31
was. Wow.
55:32
OK, Yeah. But she's still kind of a
55:35
seductress. She's still, I don't know,
55:37
she's, she's still got it. But she was like fucking, you
55:41
know? I hated her character in Rome.
55:46
Yes, is it but? I think you're supposed to Yeah,
55:49
yeah, yeah, yeah. Not, not just randomly.
55:51
You're supposed to hate her. I just don't like women.
55:55
I think she's just a very good actress and therefore.
55:57
And was playing an absolute. And therefore I was like, fuck
56:00
her. Yeah, I've realized, I think
56:06
what I, my brain was trying to do before.
56:09
Well, we're talking about Craig and we're talking about Dark
56:11
City. Yeah.
56:13
There's some I robot news which is not I see Alex Proyus
56:19
related. So that's, I think that's what
56:20
my brain was trying to do. Alan Tudyk is also in Superman.
56:24
Sort of that's true. It all links.
56:26
He plays Gary. I think he's credited as Gary.
56:30
Amazing. 4 is kind of a name. So is Gary, Yeah.
56:39
Alan Tudick. I didn't actually know the man.
56:41
With two apparently. For a reason I didn't know that
56:44
he played the robot in iRobot. And apparently the reason we
56:49
didn't know that is because According to him, that's not to
56:53
say it's not true, but it's just.
56:55
You know, yeah, I'd say the sources.
56:57
I'd tell the yeah, I'd tell this version of the story if I was
56:59
him, too. Is that when they did the test
57:03
screenings, everybody loved him so much.
57:05
He was testing better than Will Smith was.
57:08
And Will Smith was like, well, he's not doing the fucking press
57:11
talk with me. Yeah, as I can also imagine how
57:14
fucking funny he would be in interviews.
57:16
Yes, yes, you know exactly. He's very charming and funny.
57:20
If I'm supposed to be the hero. So apparently Will Smith
57:24
basically had him pushed to the side and that's that's why we
57:31
didn't really know that he was even in that movie.
57:33
Yeah, because it was not promoted.
57:36
Well, he was not promoted. Yeah, it's funny.
57:40
Like, I mean, Alan Trigg is, is is a fantastic character actor,
57:44
voice over actor and like, I don't know, monster creature
57:48
actor, I guess you'd call it too.
57:49
But they're usually a little bit funny, and I don't remember my
57:52
Robert being funny at all. No, I I, I liked that movie more
57:59
than. Everybody.
58:01
Else at the time, I I believe I don't remember.
58:04
I remember everybody cheating on it and I when I saw it I was
58:07
like, actually I thought that was quite good, but I'd be
58:09
interested to watch it again. Yeah, I haven't seen it a second
58:11
time. It's got Shia la Boeuf in it
58:14
too, which I did know. But yeah, I'm going to rewatch
58:19
that movie. You did this movie come out?
58:21
That's a good question. I.
58:23
Want to say like 2004 somewhere in there?
58:26
2004 exactly. Yes, There you go.
58:30
Yeah. OK.
58:31
Yeah. During the chat, you revealed
58:31
that not many people know he voiced the robot Sunny in 2004
58:34
sci-fi action film My Robot. And there's a reason for that.
58:39
Yeah. There you go.
58:41
It's. Fucking great plays the chicken
58:44
in the Moana movies. That's right, He does.
58:48
I mean, I know him first from Firefly.
58:51
Save the. Yeah, that was my introduction
58:53
to him. Yep.
58:55
Yep. And him and Nathan Fillion.
58:57
And was Nathan Fillion. Well, Nathan Fillion was in
59:01
Buffy first, so I guess technically I knew Nathan
59:04
Fillion from Buffy. True, but actually I didn't
59:07
really pay attention to him because he wasn't being Nathan
59:09
Fillion. No, no, that's right.
59:12
And yeah, it wasn't until he was not a leading.
59:14
He he was one of the villains in in Buffy, but not a big he was a
59:20
villain for a period and then he got moved on from I think if I
59:24
recall in that season. He's not, No.
59:26
He's seen that the whole season. He's not the big bad,
59:29
technically. Yeah, that's right.
59:31
Yeah, that's but I'm trying to think because didn't was Fillion
59:35
in Doctor horrible? Yes yeah, I think it's the
59:40
hammer. Yeah, when I first that's right
59:43
when I first started going OK, this guy's really funny.
59:46
Is that really the guy from that season of Buffy I'm?
59:48
Going to give her the hammer. The hammer in the hammer scene,
59:51
Yes, I got that. He points in it too, yeah.
59:56
The hammer's a piece, yes. Yeah, yeah, so good.
1:00:01
It's. Felicia Day.
1:00:02
Spacing in a pit. It was Felicia Day, so it was.
1:00:06
She was also in season of Buffy. That's right, yeah.
1:00:12
We don't have to go on about this, but we have mentioned her
1:00:14
before, so I'll just quickly mention it in the in the time
1:00:16
that we have left. And that's I watched another
1:00:18
movie this week. I watched a movie called 1000
1:00:20
Men and Me which is The Bonnie Blue Story.
1:00:24
OK, Yep, right. The Bonnie Blues story I watched
1:00:29
this because, well, for obvious reasons, because we talked
1:00:32
about. It it's fucking hilarious, yeah.
1:00:34
But mostly because this was on BBC or Channel 4 or whatever it
1:00:39
was in England and everyone was like, I cannot believe they
1:00:44
played this on TV. And I'm not talking what's in
1:00:47
it. And it is pretty explicit.
1:00:50
Like you don't, you don't literally see like fucking Dicks
1:00:53
going in holes, but you see a shot of what's happening with
1:00:57
something blurred out, you know, like it's, it doesn't leave a
1:01:00
lot to the imagination. And they talk about it very
1:01:02
freely. Yeah, I mean, you'd have to in.
1:01:07
That in that thousand guy day that they did right, because
1:01:12
that's what this documentary's about.
1:01:13
It's about that they filled 1000 guys.
1:01:15
And actually I realized I didn't know a thing about her, but her
1:01:18
shtick is that she fucks virgin college boys.
1:01:25
That's her thing. OK, right.
1:01:28
So that's what she I mean, that might be what she likes in real
1:01:31
life. That's certainly what she says
1:01:32
she likes in her videos. And all her videos are about her
1:01:35
fucking like going to college campuses and being like or I'm
1:01:38
just going to let any virgin fuck me today.
1:01:40
Like just that's her thing, right?
1:01:42
Just. Whether that's actually what's
1:01:44
happening or not, yeah. Because yeah.
1:01:47
Yeah, but evidently it was only halfway through the day where
1:01:52
they were like, no, we need to actually start planning this.
1:01:55
We're not getting through enough guys.
1:01:56
Because evidently they were just like, if you arrived, you would
1:02:00
just go in and there'd be a fucking swarm of dudes around
1:02:04
her. Like, like getting sucked off
1:02:06
and getting jacked off and jacking each other off or
1:02:09
whatever. And then as soon as some guy was
1:02:10
out, you know, pulled out of a vagina, if you were there, you
1:02:14
could just hop in and go in and put it in.
1:02:15
And that was your turn. But like.
1:02:18
There was all this other stuff going on too, and then halfway
1:02:20
through the day somebody was like, if we're going to get
1:02:22
through 1000, we need to just bring them in one at a time.
1:02:25
Buying it? Put your Dick in.
1:02:28
Like and then get out of. There, move it out for a bit and
1:02:31
we would tell you when to take it out and there's the next guy
1:02:33
that's standing behind you. But that was like, not what they
1:02:38
had planned. Right.
1:02:41
But the fucking quotes. You would think you'd know that,
1:02:43
right? You would think just common
1:02:45
sense. Like, they're not going to
1:02:46
organize themselves, right? Yeah, yeah.
1:02:50
Like. If I was going to fuck three
1:02:52
women, I'd be like, I'm going to have to do you one at a time.
1:02:58
Seems obvious, but yeah. The the way they talk about it
1:03:01
is so casually, it's just hilarious.
1:03:05
If, if, if this wasn't real, if this was scripted, it would be
1:03:09
top level comedy. Like she's like, so I fucked
1:03:12
1000 guys. Like if I was an athlete and I'd
1:03:14
played 1000 matches, you'd be thinking I was, I'm a champion.
1:03:18
Yeah, fucking come on. So good.
1:03:22
It's very odd, I mean. It was, it was, it was
1:03:26
interesting watch. I think at a certain point
1:03:29
perhaps this kind of thing won't be odd anymore, which is
1:03:33
interesting to think about. But we're still in to, to me, as
1:03:36
in a as a middle-aged man, it's very strange to to, to even want
1:03:41
to do this is very strange to me.
1:03:43
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
1:03:46
In fact, even to to be one of the guys involved is strange to
1:03:50
me. I I just no interest in doing
1:03:52
something like that. Yeah, I think it's strange that
1:03:54
the men want to do it. And I think it's even stranger
1:03:57
that the women, the woman Bonnie Blue wants to do it because
1:04:01
like, I'm no expert, but I, I've met women, I know women and not
1:04:05
one of them has ever said to me, you know, what I really want is
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to be fucked by 1000 guys. Yeah, in one day, yeah.
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Yeah, maybe that's. I think maybe that's it and I
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again, I don't want to judge and I'm not slut shaming anyone, but
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I don't know many women that 1000 even over a lifetime
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doesn't seem massively disproportionate.
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Yeah, I mean, times are changing though, so.
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That is true. You never know that is true.
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And look, people are into different stuff, you know, Yeah,
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if, if the, what is it? The the Pornhub annual review or
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whatever that thing is, is led to believable, is to be
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believed. People are into all sorts of
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stuff, including Sonic hedgehogs.
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So, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so you recommend that
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documentary? I know you know that.
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I'll bother one. Yeah, I probably.
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Yeah, honestly, it was mercifully short.
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It's not a whole lot to talk about, is there?
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Right, Right. Yeah.
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Well, yeah, I guess that brings us to the show.
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Normally we would cut to the after party, but we've already
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done the after party. As we said, we've.
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We've done it, yeah. We've done that.
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So if you it's. Time to go if.
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You want to hear us continue talking, or rather have already
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talked, Yeah. And.
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Referencing anything we've said already in this show.
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No, and and if you're wondering what Luke's up to, you can find
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