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Full Show Podcast: 24 September 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Fridge on
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  Speaker 1: Early Edition with Spark for Business. Technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. Good morning, welcome to Thursday. Great to
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  Speaker 2: have your company. The post-election LNG bargaining chip. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about that this morning. Mitch McCann stateside for us. He's
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  Speaker 2: at the UN in New York. New Zealand Rugby Summit
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  Speaker 2: happening today. What's happening with the future of the game?
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  Speaker 2: Plus cops are back to being cops, not social workers.
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  Speaker 2: This Thursday the 23rd of September, so we're on UN
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  Speaker 2: Walkout Watch again. Yesterday it was the Cubans upping and
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  Speaker 2: leaving during Trump's speech. Today the Americans, as Iran spoke
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  Speaker 2: about the bombing of that school.
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  Speaker 3: Innocent children whom in truth had committed no crimes, no sins.
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  Speaker 3: Those who are terrorists and train and protect terrorists describe
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  Speaker 3: us as such. We have only defended ourselves. We are
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  Speaker 3: not terrorists.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, outside, Witkoff, this is Trump's man and co, still
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  Speaker 2: trying to hammer out a deal.
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  Speaker 4: The president's open still to this moment, to making a
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  Speaker 4: deal with Iran that allows Iran to be what it
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  Speaker 4: should be, which is a great and prosperous country. But
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  Speaker 4: if they continue to insist on the desire for a
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  Speaker 4: nuclear weapon, their support for proxies in the region, their
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  Speaker 4: support of terrorism, they're the world's leading sponsor of terrorism,
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  Speaker 4: then we're going to have big problems with them. And
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  Speaker 4: the president has a number of options available to him.
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  Speaker 2: So we had that meeting between Trump and Burnham yesterday
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  Speaker 2: on the sidelines of the UN. Well, now the UK
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  Speaker 2: is reviewing the deal to hand over the Chagas Islands
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  Speaker 2: to Mauritius. Interesting. Trump, of course, doesn't like it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't support it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's terrible.
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  Speaker 5: It's strategically very important. You know, we had to send
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  Speaker 5: our B-2 bombers when we bombed the Iran nuclear.
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  Speaker 1: We had to send the B-2 bombers back home to
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  Speaker 1: Missouri as.
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  Speaker 5: Opposed to flying for a short period of time, then
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  Speaker 5: fly for a long period of time.
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  Speaker 6: It's amazing how strategic it is.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Wes Streeting, this is Defence Secretary in the UK,
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  Speaker 2: says they're going to have to have a talk with
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  Speaker 2: the US about all this.
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  Speaker 7: Objectively, in the absence of support from the Americans, is
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  Speaker 7: this deal good enough?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 7: It needs to have the support of the Americans. We
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  Speaker 7: will work together to get to a point where both
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  Speaker 7: the governments of Mauritius and the UK, but also the Americans,
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  Speaker 7: can sign up to this.
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  Speaker 2: And we are looking forward to the red carpet being
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  Speaker 2: rolled out for Xi Jinping. Washington this week, first summit
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  Speaker 2: between Xi and Trump in almost a decade.
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  Speaker 5: I think the Chinese are in pretty good shape to
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  Speaker 5: be able to listen to these and explain to President
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  Speaker 5: Trump what they need. And we'll see how this comes out.
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  Speaker 5: But I think it'll probably be a ballyhoo. There's a
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  Speaker 5: pretty successful summit with both sides coming away to some
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  Speaker 5: extent as winners.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on Early Edition with Spark for Business, technology
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  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving. Use TalkZB.
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  Speaker 2: 9292, time is nine minutes after five. There's an uncomfortable
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  Speaker 2: truth to be told about renting in New Zealand, and
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  Speaker 2: it has been done on interest.co.nz by a guy called
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  Speaker 2: Joseph Darby, who's a financial advisor, and he lays out
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  Speaker 2: the numbers. Numbers aren't pretty if you're a landlord. So
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  Speaker 2: he goes through and he adds up everything, all of
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  Speaker 2: your costs. If you're a landlord, you've got rates, you've
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  Speaker 2: got insurance, you've got maintenance, you've got the cost of capital,
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  Speaker 2: which is either, you know, if you're borrowing money to
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  Speaker 2: invest in a rental property, then you are paying interest
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  Speaker 2: on that mortgage. Or if you are mortgage free, then
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  Speaker 2: there is an opportunity cost. There is a cost of capital.
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  Speaker 2: You could be earning interest in a term deposit, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so there is a cost no matter which way you've
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  Speaker 2: structured it. And he goes through and he adds all
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  Speaker 2: these up. And if you look at the nationwide, if
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  Speaker 2: you look at the median price of $ 750, 000 for a house,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the median rent of $ 590 a week,
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  Speaker 2: then you have a problem. And the problem is a shortfall, i.e.
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  Speaker 2: renters aren't covering the cost of providing the house. The
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  Speaker 2: shortfall is on these numbers, $ 310 a week. So landlords
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  Speaker 2: are giving renters a subsidy of $ 310 a week. Now,
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  Speaker 2: they wouldn't just do that and keep losing money and
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  Speaker 2: not expect to get it back somehow. So at some point,
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  Speaker 2: then they will expect that rents will go up, or
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  Speaker 2: they will expect that there will be some house price growth.
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  Speaker 2: So once you slap a capital gains tax into the situation,
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  Speaker 2: or had Labour done what they were planning to do,
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  Speaker 2: which was not allow interest deductibility, then what you see
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  Speaker 2: is landlords who are currently subsidizing their tenants, pushing prices higher,
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  Speaker 2: as high as they can, to try and recoup some
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  Speaker 2: of the loss. Interesting, hey? $ 310 a week. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: some new numbers out yesterday on home loan affordability. This
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  Speaker 2: is the Home Loan Affordability Index. If you are a
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  Speaker 2: first-time buyer wanting to get out of the rental, Every
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  Speaker 2: province in New Zealand except Auckland has affordable first homes.
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  Speaker 2: Even when purchased with a 10% deposit, with a 20% deposit,
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  Speaker 2: with a 20% deposit, every city is now affordable. The
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  Speaker 2: exceptions are North Shore and Auckland and Queenstown. Newstalk ZB
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  Speaker 2: will talk about cops and hospitals. and mental health patients
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  Speaker 2: who turn up there. Do the police need to be involved?
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  Speaker 2: There's a change coming. That's next. Newstalk ZB.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on Early Edition with Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Bridge and Spark for Business. Technology that keeps business moving.
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  Speaker 2: News Talk ZB. 5.13 News Talk ZB. Interesting what's happening
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  Speaker 2: in America. This is McDonald's and people are jabbing themselves
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  Speaker 2: with the fat jab and they aren't eating as much
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  Speaker 2: food as a result of that and certainly not as
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  Speaker 2: much fast food. So if you look at the share
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  Speaker 2: price for McDonald's in the US, down 18% this year.
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  Speaker 2: people are losing their appetite for fast food, fries, burgers, ketchup.
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  Speaker 2: $ 8. 5 billion US, that's how much the parent company is
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  Speaker 2: now going to pump into the franchises. They want to
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  Speaker 2: try and boost sales, revamping the stores. They've got to
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  Speaker 2: retrain 2 million workers and try and improve the quality
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  Speaker 2: of the food to save the golden archers, 14 after 5.
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  Speaker 2: So police and Health New Zealand moving into the final
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  Speaker 2: stage of this mental health call-out change. So basically what
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  Speaker 2: they were planning to do was hand over patients at
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  Speaker 2: emergency departments within 15 minutes. That was going to be
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  Speaker 2: the final stage. They've now changed that to 30 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: So cop goes in, hands over, 30 minutes, done and dusted,
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  Speaker 2: wash your hands, off you go. David Wills, National Director
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  Speaker 2: of Nurses Society with me this morning. David, good morning. David,
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  Speaker 2: you with me? Earth to David. Maybe he's getting a handover.
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  Speaker 2: we'll come back to them as soon as we can
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  Speaker 2: figure out the problems with the phones. So yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this has long been signalled and stage four of a plan.
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  Speaker 2: So it's already been happening. And the question is whether
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  Speaker 2: it's going to mean that hospitals are even more overrun.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, the argument's always been that cops will
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  Speaker 2: get back to doing what they do best, which is
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  Speaker 2: actually policing rather than being social workers. So anyway, we'll
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  Speaker 2: find out about that. In other news... The Post broke
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  Speaker 2: the story. They had the leaked document about fire and emergency.
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  Speaker 2: Can you believe that fire and emergency ordered 30 trucks
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  Speaker 2: from Europe, shipped them to New Zealand? This is years ago,
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  Speaker 2: shipped them to New Zealand, and then they had a
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  Speaker 2: problem with their engines. They had to ship them back
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  Speaker 2: to England to get fixed. They're now back in New
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  Speaker 2: Zealand six years after the first order was made, and
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  Speaker 2: none of them are in service today, six years later.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what a monumental cock-up that sounds like. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: Kerry Gregory, who's the FEN CEO, is still overseas, and
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  Speaker 2: the Minister wants him to fly home and sort it
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  Speaker 2: all out. Big protest at Parliament yesterday. Anyway, the upshot
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  Speaker 2: of this leaked report is that no-one is going to
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  Speaker 2: be held responsible for leaking it. That's the outcome of
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  Speaker 2: all of that yesterday. 16 minutes after five, let's go
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  Speaker 2: back now to David Wills, who's the National Director of
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  Speaker 2: Nurses Society, to talk about the nurses... the Police and
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  Speaker 2: Health NZ. David, good morning.
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  Speaker 8: Kia ora.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to have you on the show. So what do
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  Speaker 2: you think about this final stage, the handover situation?
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  Speaker 8: Well, certainly the decision, because bear in mind this was
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  Speaker 8: all driven by the police. It's referred to as a
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  Speaker 8: joint programme, but this is a change that the police
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  Speaker 8: wanted to reduce their amount of time they spent in
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  Speaker 8: EDs and their involvement with mental health cases in particular. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: it's good that they've now given up the idea, which
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  Speaker 8: was driven by the police, of a 15-minute maximum handover time.
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  Speaker 8: But 30 minutes looks like it could still be highly
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  Speaker 8: problematic for both patients and staff. Their own data showed
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  Speaker 8: that half the time it took more than 30 minutes,
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  Speaker 8: for a handover during the pilot phase of reducing it
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  Speaker 8: down to 60 minutes. And in fact, even with 60 minutes,
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  Speaker 8: only in about 80% of the time was that adequate.
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  Speaker 8: So 30 minutes, highly problematic potentially, lots of extra pressure
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  Speaker 8: on health professionals involved. ED staff.
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  Speaker 2: David, I'm imagining, can you just paint us a picture?
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  Speaker 2: How crazy are we talking? What's going on with this
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  Speaker 2: person that they need a police officer to hand them
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  Speaker 2: over to a nurse?
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  Speaker 8: Well, these are people that have been brought in for
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  Speaker 8: treatment under the Mental Health Act, who obviously have major problems.
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  Speaker 8: And historically, the police used to provide whatever support, there
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  Speaker 8: was no particular time frame. Now, Obviously, the police have
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  Speaker 8: wanted to standardize this, hence they initiated this program. But
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  Speaker 8: if we look overseas, for instance, other jurisdictions do have.
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  Speaker 6: A time limit.
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  Speaker 8: In the UK, it's 60 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: In Canada, depending on the.
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  Speaker 8: Province, it's anything... from 45 minutes to 90 minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 1: It's not longer.
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  Speaker 2: But David, what would be wrong if we just left
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  Speaker 2: them in the waiting room? What are they doing? How
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  Speaker 2: are they behaving?
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  Speaker 8: They've been transferred to ED staff and the police, essentially, historically,
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  Speaker 8: they have been there for support. Obviously, they're not health
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  Speaker 8: professionals and nurses and other health professionals do not want
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  Speaker 8: the police involved in patient-facing roles unnecessarily.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but do they need restraining?
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  Speaker 8: They may well need restraining or at least their mere
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  Speaker 8: presence because let's face it, the police's primary role, both
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  Speaker 8: generally for the community, is public safety. And so their
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  Speaker 8: presence assists in... trying to prevent problems occurring, and they
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  Speaker 8: are there also when maybe some restraint or other support
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  Speaker 8: is necessary. And essentially what you've got now is the
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  Speaker 8: police pulling back.
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  Speaker 2: And the hospitals having to take over. Understand the issue. David,
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  Speaker 2: thank you very much for your time. David Wills, National Director,
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  Speaker 2: Nurses Society.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: 19 minutes after five. I mean, look, I'm no expert,
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  Speaker 2: but it would seem to me a more obvious solution
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  Speaker 2: would be to get the security guards, of which there's
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  Speaker 2: a $ 100 million contract out with Health New Zealand at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, by the way, to do that job and
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  Speaker 2: let the cops do the copying. 19 after five.
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  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. Newstalk ZB. Ryan, that's why they invented straitjackets
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  Speaker 2: to restrain people, says Vicky. Vicky, do they still use straitjackets?
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  Speaker 2: I can't picture anyone being put in a straitjacket in
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  Speaker 2: a hospital in New Zealand today. 22 minutes after five. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the future professional rugby on the agenda at today's NZR Summit.
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  Speaker 2: A confidential document reveals options for scrapping either the MPC
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  Speaker 2: or Super Rugby remains a live possibility. Nick Bewley, Newstalk
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  Speaker 2: ZB Canterbury Sports commentator with us this morning. Nick, good morning. Morning, Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: So what's happening today? Very good question, actually.
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  Speaker 9: Look, the likes of provincial unions, representatives from the PUs,
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  Speaker 9: representatives from Super Rugby franchises, New Zealand Rugby, the Players
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  Speaker 9: Association are all meeting at the summit in Wellington. Now, look,
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  Speaker 9: as you just outlined there, a document has made its
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  Speaker 9: way into the media which outlines three possible options for
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  Speaker 9: the domestic professional game here in New Zealand around Super
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  Speaker 9: Rugby and the NPC. Now, according to the Herald, these
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  Speaker 9: are indicative, Ryan, so... They're not necessarily voting on anything
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  Speaker 9: today and they might decide to go down a very
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  Speaker 9: different path or do nothing at all. It feels like
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  Speaker 9: something has to be done because New Zealand rugby is
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  Speaker 9: losing money hand over fist. But the juiciest one, as
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  Speaker 9: you outlined there, option C, which is driven by the
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  Speaker 9: provincial unions, is to drop Super Rugby altogether, cut the
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  Speaker 9: Australians and establish an 8-10 team system. national competition. The
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  Speaker 9: other options are largely unchanged model, except for some amalgamation
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  Speaker 9: in the main centres, like where I am here in Christchurch,
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  Speaker 9: where you've got Canterbury and the Crusaders. That's to reduce
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  Speaker 9: duplication of roles in the five main centres. And the
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  Speaker 9: second option effectively is the same as the first, while
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  Speaker 9: adding two New Zealand teams to Super Rugby. There's currently 10.
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  Speaker 6: There is no.
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  Speaker 9: Suggestion on where those teams would come from. But as
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  Speaker 9: I say, it's more a meeting of the minds today
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  Speaker 9: as opposed to let's vote on this and this is
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  Speaker 9: what's going to happen. And for anyone who's followed the
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  Speaker 9: professional rugby landscape for the last 30 years, they'll know
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  Speaker 9: that these summits and meetings have happened in the past
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  Speaker 9: and progress has been glacial or non-existent.
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  Speaker 2: And we know Kirk wants to cut $ 20 million a
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  Speaker 2: year in costs. Which of these options, Nick, which is
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  Speaker 2: the more expensive one? You know, where would you get
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  Speaker 2: your most bang for your buck?
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  Speaker 9: Well, it probably is the third one, Ryan, because we
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  Speaker 9: have a super rugby competition of 10 teams. We have
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  Speaker 9: an MPC men's competition at the moment of 14 unions,
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  Speaker 9: you know, to go from what is effectively 24 teams
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  Speaker 9: and two competitions all of a sudden to one competition
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  Speaker 9: with eight to 10 teams. It would be the biggest
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  Speaker 9: change in the history of the professional game, which goes
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  Speaker 9: back to the mid-90s. But I just cannot see a
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  Speaker 9: world in which that happens. Super Rugby, as I say,
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  Speaker 9: it's been established for some time now. They desperately want
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  Speaker 9: more privatisation, as we are starting to see in netball,
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  Speaker 9: as we will soon see in cricket. I find that unlikely.
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  Speaker 9: I heard Gregor Paul on Newstalk CB yesterday say that,
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  Speaker 9: you know, I give that a less than 1% chance.
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  Speaker 9: But it just feels like something has to give because
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  Speaker 9: outside of the All Blacks, New Zealand rugby isn't making money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, needs must, Nick Bewley, Newstalk's Ed B. Canterbury, sports commentator.
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  Speaker 2: Good to have you on the show, Nick. It's 25
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  Speaker 2: after five. Very funny photo of Delcy Rodriguez. This is
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  Speaker 2: the new leader of Venezuela standing next to Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: They've had a historic first meeting. Meanwhile, round the corner
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  Speaker 2: in a jail cell in Brooklyn is Nicholas Maduro, her
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  Speaker 2: old boss, who Trump went in and blindfolded and kidnapped
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. So she's standing there.
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  Speaker 2: Her face is smiling, but her body language says... Don't
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  Speaker 2: throw me in the slammer too. Anyway, she might go
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  Speaker 2: and meet him after the UN. We're going to speak
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  Speaker 2: to Mitch McCann out of New York after news at 5.30.
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  Speaker 2: It's 25 after 5, Newstalk ZB. Newstalk ZB, it is
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  Speaker 2: 27 after 5. Energy is everything, but you cannot have
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  Speaker 2: your cake and eat it too. The LNG terminal is
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  Speaker 2: on ice until after the election. Shane Jones told me
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  Speaker 2: last week pretty much that. Seymour has said pretty much that.
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  Speaker 2: And Brown now reluctantly looks like he has said pretty
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  Speaker 2: much that too. So it hasn't been greenlit by Cabinet
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  Speaker 2: at this point. There is no way a contract of
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  Speaker 2: that sort would be signed by what is basically a
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  Speaker 2: caretaker government at this point. The Methanex closure buys us
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  Speaker 2: a bit of time, but how much, we're not really sure.
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  Speaker 2: The thing that they said we need, i.e. the terminal
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  Speaker 2: that would be underwritten to the tune of a billion dollars,
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  Speaker 2: is now at the whims of the election. More importantly,
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  Speaker 2: the coalition talks. It's a bargaining chip now. Businesses and
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  Speaker 2: factories don't close just because of costs, they close because
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  Speaker 2: of uncertainty. Investment dries up, you need reassurance that you've
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  Speaker 2: got the inputs to actually produce the outputs. How many
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  Speaker 2: more closures will we see before we have options and
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  Speaker 2: backup options signed, sealed and delivered? In Australia, they're just
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  Speaker 2: waking up to the fact that data centres run 24-7
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  Speaker 2: and therefore when the sun don't shine and the wind
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  Speaker 2: don't blow during a cold winter's evening, these beasts need
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  Speaker 2: a power source. There's an energy conference on there this
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  Speaker 2: week and the business leaders there are telling Albanese you
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  Speaker 2: might need some coal or gas as backups to operate
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  Speaker 2: these centres. By the way, he wants $ 200 billion worth
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  Speaker 2: of data centres built. The problem with politicians is that
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  Speaker 2: we vote for them. To appeal to us, they do
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  Speaker 2: and say things that aren't necessarily in our long-term interest.
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  Speaker 2: Case in point, Trump's looking at a diesel export ban
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  Speaker 2: to lower prices in the US to try and lower
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  Speaker 2: the gas price ahead of the midterms. The only upshot,
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  Speaker 2: if we can call it that, of this year's squeeze
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  Speaker 2: on oil and 2022's electricity crunch is that voters are
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  Speaker 2: alive to the fact that we actually need a plan
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  Speaker 2: to keep the country running, preferably one that gets delivered.
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  Speaker 2: 29 after 5 on Newstalk ZB. Loads of your feedback
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  Speaker 2: coming in on rugby and rents. We'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: And Mitch McCann is stateside. All ahead.
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• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on Early Edition with Spark for Business. Technology
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: that keeps business moving.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. 24 away from 6, you're on Newstalk ZB.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Great to have your company this morning. The LNG terminal's
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: on us. We'll look at that in about 15 minutes.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: In 10, we'll go to New York. The Americans have
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: walked out at the UN. The Iranians are claiming they're
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: the real victims here, the war victims.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: Which is.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: The walkouts. So we've seen the Cubans do it. We've
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: seen the Americans do it now. I mean, it happens
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: every time we have a General Assembly. Someone walks out,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: which doesn't that defeat the purpose of the United Nations,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: which is where you're meant to go and talk about things?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: You know, you go and have your wars, you have
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: your skirmishes, you have your problems, and then you go.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: It's like therapy. It's like diplomatic therapy. But then walking out,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: it gets you nowhere. They should be forced. If you
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: lock them in the room, like lock the doors at
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: the UN General Assembly, And they would probably forget the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Security Council, which is tits on a bull, frankly, an
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: ashtray on a motorbike. Just lock all the diplomats in
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  Speaker 2: the General Assembly. World peace, I guarantee it, within days.
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  Speaker 2: 23 away from six. Let's go to our reporters, Callum
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  Speaker 2: and Dunedin. Morning, Callum. Morning, Ryan. Congratulations to Otago. Everyone
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: loves Otago.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right, it turns out.
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  Speaker 2: Dunedin and Waitaki.
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  Speaker 10: Have been named among Lonely Planet's best travel destinations for 2027.
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  Speaker 10: So this is a big accolade for the neighbouring regions.
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  Speaker 2: Here in the south.
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  Speaker 10: New Zealand's only inclusion on the annual Lonely Planet list
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  Speaker 10: as well, dubbed one of the country's quickest and coolest
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  Speaker 10: corners of New Zealand. The travel publisher says nowhere else
• 19:38
  Speaker 10: lets you visit a steampunk museum, take a graveyard tour
• 19:41
  Speaker 10: and watch little penguins come ashore all in one morning.
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  Speaker 10: Dunedin Mayor Sophie Barker says it's no surprise to locals,
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: but she calls the recognition a real fun. And Waitaki
• 19:51
  Speaker 10: Mayor Mel Tavendale says it's a wonderful reflection of what
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: the two regions offer together.
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  Speaker 2: Great stuff. How's the weather?
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  Speaker 10: The odd shower today, possibly heavy this afternoon for Dunedin,
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  Speaker 10: 15 the high.
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  Speaker 2: All right, take care. Cheers, Callum. Claire in Christchurch. Morning, Claire.
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  Speaker 11: Good morning.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: You've got more rape money potentially for Orana Wildlife Park,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the zoo there.
• 20:09
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's looking likely that Canterbury ratepayers will be asked
• 20:11
  Speaker 12: to put a bit more into Orana Wildlife Park. Christchurch
• 20:14
  Speaker 12: City Councillors yesterday agreed to $ 1. 2 million towards their $ 4. 1
• 20:19
  Speaker 12: million funding gap. But the council was very clear that
• 20:23
  Speaker 12: they want Salwin and Waimakadere to contribute as well. As
• 20:26
  Speaker 12: it says, many people in those districts are also enjoying
• 20:29
  Speaker 12: the zoo. Conversations have just started between the park and
• 20:33
  Speaker 12: those two other councils, but Orana Chief Executive Rachel Hayden
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: says it will be approaching all three councils about long-term
• 20:40
  Speaker 12: funding needs beyond this year. She says commercial revenue just
• 20:43
  Speaker 12: isn't going to cover what the park needs to stay open.
• 20:46
  Speaker 12: She says community support, though, has been incredible, and even
• 20:49
  Speaker 12: just words of encouragement have meant a huge amount.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: How's your weather?
• 20:54
  Speaker 12: Very frosty out there to start. Should clear to a
• 20:56
  Speaker 12: fine day, but a bit of high cloud this evening.
• 20:58
  Speaker 12: Light winds and the high will be 15 degrees.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Cheers, Claire. Max Wellington. Morning, Max. Good morning.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: The council's credit rating is improving.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, we received this news from both the council and
• 21:09
  Speaker 13: the mayor's office. That's how welcome this headline was after
• 21:12
  Speaker 13: all the gloom lately. S & P has moved us
• 21:15
  Speaker 13: from negative to stable. An international tick of approval of sorts,
• 21:20
  Speaker 13: I suppose, for the city council's financial plan. over the
• 21:23
  Speaker 13: next couple of years. Also interesting, the election of Andrew
• 21:26
  Speaker 13: Little and the departure of Tory Farno is cited. Apparently
• 21:28
  Speaker 13: our council table may not be, maybe now more aligned
• 21:33
  Speaker 13: with the existing financial strategy. I'm not sure if that's
• 21:36
  Speaker 13: a subtle golden mile knock or not. Good news for Wellington,
• 21:40
  Speaker 13: S & P reckons our spending is more under control
• 21:42
  Speaker 13: than it was two years ago. The water stuff not
• 21:45
  Speaker 13: mentioned here, so let's not tempt fate.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: So are you saying that Tory Farno was a drag
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: on the credit rating? They didn't say in so many words.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything. How's the weather?
• 21:58
  Speaker 13: A cold start, but mostly fine. A northerly change this morning, 13.
• 22:01
  Speaker 13: All right, rug up.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Max. Good morning, Neva. Good morning. We're all going
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to be rich in Auckland, aren't we?
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: We are.
• 22:08
  Speaker 14: Cash injection for, well, some Auckland households. So it's 374,000
• 22:13
  Speaker 14: households and businesses getting that cash injection, of course. Where
• 22:17
  Speaker 14: is this from? The Entrust Dividend. So that includes, you know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 14: those in those areas of central Auckland, east and south Auckland.
• 22:25
  Speaker 14: This year, dividend $ 377. And obviously, you know, given to
• 22:31
  Speaker 14: those areas that were formerly part of the old Auckland
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: Electric Power Board. Denise Lee is the Entrust Chair. She says,
• 22:37
  Speaker 14: you know, D-Day, Dividend Day, it's one many Aucklanders look
• 22:40
  Speaker 14: forward to every year, especially now. And so that's obviously either,
• 22:46
  Speaker 14: you know, direct credit to your bank account or credit
• 22:48
  Speaker 14: on the recipients. you know, mixed power, but you would have.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Sorted that out. Great stuff. Take that.
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  Speaker 9: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So 374,000 households and $ 377.
• 22:59
  Speaker 14: Each per household, yeah. So you're not one of the
• 23:01
  Speaker 14: lucky ones here.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: No, no, I am.
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: Yes, you are.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: But they could have lined those numbers up a little
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: bit better. They're only five off. Anyway, how's our weather?
• 23:10
  Speaker 15: Fine.
• 23:11
  Speaker 14: Morning frosts and shelter places. 14, pretty chilly here in
• 23:15
  Speaker 14: Auckland for Auckland. 14, the high, currently three degrees.
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: At the moment.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Neva. It is 19 minutes away
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  Speaker 2: from six. Now, we are back to pre-COVID tourism numbers,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: which is good. Took us a while, but we're there.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: The Chinese were always lagging. Now, we've had visa changes
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: where we basically piggyback off the, or we let the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Chinese piggyback off the Aussies to get into the country. Plus,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: we've had more flight capacity. All these things are helping.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Great piece in the Herald about this this morning. 238,000
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: arrivals recorded from China to June. That's 40% up with
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the previous year. So where did they go? This is
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: what interested me. 82% went to the South Island, 61%
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: went to the North, and then 43% went to both.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: The spend, $ 1. 5 billion. The goal, what's next? China Southern.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: brought in 65,000 passengers to Christchurch in the last year.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: They want that up by almost 60% this summer. Flight frequency,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: but also capacity, quite important. You know, it's all very
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: well to have the planes coming. You've got to fill them.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Very good news indeed. It is 17 away from six.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: We're in New York next. Newstalk ZB. Newstalk ZB, it
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: is quarter to six. And a couple of little texts
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: for you. Loads of feedback on NZR. Ryan, it appears
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the game-saving Silver Lake deal money wasn't so, says Brian.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: And this is another from one of our listeners this morning.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Perhaps the rugby union could have saved more money by
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: not taking as many as 44 players to South Africa.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: But the idea, well, I want to defend them on
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: that one because the idea was you take a bunch
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: of guys, you give them a run around and we'll
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: be better prepared for the World Cup. That's the theory anyway.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: It is quarter to six. There's no denying it. Businesses
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: are under pressure at the moment. Keeping up in the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: current market takes real innovation. And that's why businesses are
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: getting ahead of the crowd and looking harder at technology
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: that genuinely improves how they operate. Because resilience doesn't just
• 25:15
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• 25:18
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• 25:48
  Speaker 1: International Correspondence with NZI Insurance. Peace of mind for New
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Zealand business.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Fourteen to six have had an American walkout at the
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: UN General Assembly. Mitch McCann is stateside. Mitch, what did
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: they say that got the Americans' backs up? Yeah, good morning, Ryan.
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  Speaker 15: Well, this was Iran's president in the last couple of hours.
• 26:06
  Speaker 15: And the context to this is that Donald Trump threatened
• 26:08
  Speaker 15: to annihilate his country only 24 hours ago. So it
• 26:11
  Speaker 15: was always going to be a speech where Mazood Pazeshgian
• 26:14
  Speaker 15: would forcefully push back against the US. He started by
• 26:17
  Speaker 15: talking about what he described as the hypocrisies of the
• 26:20
  Speaker 15: United States. He spoke of this bombing of a school
• 26:23
  Speaker 15: in Iran in February, which killed more than 120 schoolgirls.
• 26:27
  Speaker 15: He said they were innocent, they had committed no crimes,
• 26:30
  Speaker 15: and he held up photos of the victims.
• 26:31
  Speaker 10: Now, the U.S.
• 26:32
  Speaker 15: Has said that it's investigating this, but many analysts say
• 26:36
  Speaker 15: there is evidence here of the U.S. being at fault.
• 26:39
  Speaker 15: Pozeshkin also talked about nuclear power, obviously the big issue
• 26:42
  Speaker 15: for the Americans. He said Iran should have every right
• 26:45
  Speaker 15: to have nuclear power for peaceful processes. He said it
• 26:48
  Speaker 15: would be used for health care, agriculture, electricity in the country.
• 26:52
  Speaker 15: And he spent plenty of time attacking Israel as well
• 26:55
  Speaker 15: for what has happened in Gaza. He said when Iran
• 26:58
  Speaker 15: is told it has to have nuclear inspectors, Israel is
• 27:01
  Speaker 15: rewarded with the means to bomb every capital in the region.
• 27:04
  Speaker 15: As you mentioned, a single member of the U.S. delegation
• 27:07
  Speaker 15: walked out. This is the same thing that happened to
• 27:09
  Speaker 15: the Americans yesterday when Donald Trump threatened Cuba. but it's
• 27:13
  Speaker 15: an interesting time here. Donald Trump is trying to end
• 27:15
  Speaker 15: this war, but it seems that he's not optimistic it
• 27:18
  Speaker 15: will happen before the midterm elections in November.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And we've got the big Xi meeting in Washington too. Yeah,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: that's right.
• 27:24
  Speaker 15: Xi arrives tonight at about 10 o'clock local time in Maryland.
• 27:28
  Speaker 15: Donald Trump's going to meet him on the tarmac of
• 27:30
  Speaker 15: the same base where Air Force One lands. Over the
• 27:33
  Speaker 15: next couple of days, there's going to be a state dinner.
• 27:36
  Speaker 15: Many of those AI tech leaders have been invited. There's
• 27:39
  Speaker 15: going to be a ceremony. which involves a big jet flyover, including.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: A B-2 bomber.
• 27:45
  Speaker 15: And there's going to be a visit to the National
• 27:47
  Speaker 15: Archives as well. So a couple of key points for
• 27:50
  Speaker 15: them to talk about. One is AI, and the other
• 27:52
  Speaker 15: is whether or not they can extend this trade truce
• 27:55
  Speaker 15: after Donald Trump's Liberation Day last year, which is hard
• 27:59
  Speaker 15: to forget.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: All right. Good stuff. That is Mitch McCann stateside for
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: us this morning. Time is 12 minutes away from six. So,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: ACT New Zealand first not so keen on signing an
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: LNG contract before, one, it's been greenlit, and two, the
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: consents have been granted. Simeon Brown flagged that contracts could
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: be signed. This was last week. Now, we're not so sure.
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: The priority is to make sure we go through a
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: proper procurement process and we get a good decision and
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: we're working through that.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: As quickly as we can.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: If we can sign it before the election, we will.
• 28:28
  Speaker 10: I don't want to rain on Simeon's parade, but tick-tock,
• 28:31
  Speaker 10: time is moving on.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the rain has well and truly come. Andrew Eggles
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: is with us this morning, Smart Energy Alliance spokesperson. Andrew,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: good morning.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: Good morning. Great to be here.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Good to have you. Is there a bit of strong-arming
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: going on here, do you think, with industry about how
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: this thing actually gets done?
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: Well, I think it has been quite rushed up to
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: this point, so it's really good to see cooler heads
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: have come to the party and put a stop on this.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: It's a really big cost for New Zealanders, up to
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: $ 2. 7 billion over 15 years, and it's right we slow
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: down and consider it fully.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Do we have time to slow down? When's our next
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: dry year due?
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: We do. I mean, I can see why. There may
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: be this perception to rush, but I think huge changes
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: since we last had this dry year. We've had massive
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: renewables build out. We have double the coal storage. We
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: have demand contracts with TY. Methanex is no longer going
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: to be using a lot of gas, and Meridian has.
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: the Punakaiki Lake to use for water storage. So that
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: means there's no longer this massive rush. The legislation isn't
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: in place. We can properly consider other options. And it's
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: really important because LNG, you know, we put out a
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: report before Donald Trump went to war with and that
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: showed that LNG prices are very, very volatile, and we
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: can consider better, lower-cost options for New Zealanders instead. Like what? Well,
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: if we went to what a lot of countries are doing,
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: they're going full steam at electrification. Our report found that
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: we could free up to 40% of gas production through coal,
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: electrification of buildings, and that will save Kiwi families $ 1. 5
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: billion a year and free up vast quantities of gas production.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: And that's a better, lower cost for New Zealanders and
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: provides that gas for those companies that need it, such
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: as manufacturing and industry that do really need it for
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: their heat sources. There's a lot more we could be
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: doing in that space.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: All right, Andrew Eggles with us this morning. Smart Energy
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Alliance spokesperson. Time is nine minutes away from six. Over
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: in the U.S., Trump, I mean, energy is everywhere you
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: look in the international press every day, basically. It's energy, energy, energy.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: And Trump has got a problem with the midterms coming in.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Gas prices are high, so he is flirting with the
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: idea of banning diesel exports out of the United States.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I fall for that, too.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: I've said, let's not send out the diesel. We make
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: a lot of diesel.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: It could have a little bit of an effect on
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: regular automobile gasoline, because when you do that, you know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: it's sort of a flow.
• 31:28
  Speaker 9: It's a balance.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: But no, I've called for it within my people.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: I've been talking about it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Now, industry is scrambling off the back of that, saying
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: that is a nuts idea because it might in the
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: short term do something, but then in the medium term
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: you might have a shortage and then you actually push
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the prices higher. It is 8 to 6. Newstalk ZB,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Mike Next.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: You trust to start your day. It's early edition with
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Spark for Business. Technology that keeps business moving.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Newstalk ZB. 6 to 6, Newstalk ZB. Mike's here. Morning, Mike.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Good morning, Ryan. Last day of school for the politicians yesterday.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Did you watch the... Yeah, of course I did.
• 32:06
  Speaker 11: And it was moderately entertaining.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I've got some highlights. Should we play some highlights?
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: You've got some highlights?
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: This is Luxon doing his chant. No new taxes. That's it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: No new taxes. That's it. no new taxes. How do
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: you rate that one?
• 32:23
  Speaker 11: I couldn't hear him.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, you haven't got headphones on. What are you doing
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: in a radio studio with that? But I saw it.
• 32:30
  Speaker 11: I thought the whole thing ended with it. There's an
• 32:32
  Speaker 11: element of goodwill in it, you know what I mean?
• 32:34
  Speaker 11: Even at the end of the day, there's enough goodwill
• 32:36
  Speaker 11: there to know we're all in this game together and
• 32:38
  Speaker 11: it's all going to get a bit nasty over the
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: ensuing weeks and we'll all say a bunch of stuff
• 32:41
  Speaker 11: we probably regret, but nevertheless... So it was the end
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: of it. By the way, that petrol thing you mentioned before,
• 32:48
  Speaker 11: I read a very interesting piece yesterday because I was
• 32:50
  Speaker 11: worried about that because if they stop diesel exports, the
• 32:53
  Speaker 11: whole world is in deep trouble. But the thing about that,
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: it's the East Coast and the West Coast. There's no
• 33:00
  Speaker 11: infrastructure in America to get the oil from the center
• 33:02
  Speaker 11: of America to the coasts because they don't need to
• 33:05
  Speaker 11: because the ports service the West and the East. And so, therefore,
• 33:10
  Speaker 11: suddenly you'd be sort of banning this and there'd be
• 33:12
  Speaker 11: no business going on in the ports of the West
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: and the East Coast. So, therefore, the price there would
• 33:16
  Speaker 11: go up. You might solve the problem in the middle
• 33:19
  Speaker 11: of America because you've got the access to the– so
• 33:22
  Speaker 11: they'd be serving no particular purpose.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Hence the clenching that you could hear across the Pacific
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: from the industry.
• 33:29
  Speaker 11: I also assume that something's going to happen at the
• 33:31
  Speaker 11: Ewing because the Americans don't let the Iranians in to America.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Unless they're going to talk about something.
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: Unless they're going to sit around and talk about it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 11: So I'm assuming something will come out of this in
• 33:42
  Speaker 11: the next couple of days. Anyway, we'll talk about the
• 33:44
  Speaker 11: rugby this morning. I've got more wine news for you
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: this morning. Oh, we're very, very good.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Is it every day a new wine story?
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: Very good.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I can't help it if they're booming, mate.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: But I'm just here to report the good news.
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: But more good news from the wine industry.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: So yesterday you said maybe I'd get a bottle. No,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't get one.
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: Guy was on the plane.
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  Speaker 2: No, useless.
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: Couldn't pass it on to you. Someone just send us
• 34:03
  Speaker 11: some wine. We need some more people on the show.
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: They're going to give us some freebies.
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: Exactly.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: That's what it's all about. That's what we're here for. Anyway,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: wine and rugby.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: What more do you want?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Good stuff. Mike next. Newstalk ZB.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live
• 34:22
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• 34:26
  Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.