Latest / Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning / Ross Fulton Analysis: 4-3 vs. 4-2-5 For The Ohio State Defense
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, September fifteenth. I'm
- 0:03Speaker 1: your host, Tom Or. The Marshall game is in six days,
- 0:06Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in seventy six days. We had
- 0:09Speaker 1: Ross Fulton of bucke Huddle dot com, one of our
- 0:11Speaker 1: ex'es and nose gurus, on the show a couple days
- 0:14Speaker 1: ago to talk about the Ohio State offense and how
- 0:17Speaker 1: they did against Western Michigan. Now we're going to be
- 0:19Speaker 1: talking about the Ohio State defense. When we talked to Ross,
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- 0:39Speaker 1: we were talking about the Ohio State defense, and boy,
- 0:41Speaker 1: the Ohio State defense had a day against the Western
- 0:44Speaker 1: Michigan Broncos. They allowed just ninety nine yards zero points.
- 0:49Speaker 1: Hard to do much better than that. To today, we're
- 0:52Speaker 1: going to be looking at some of the things that
- 0:53Speaker 1: worked really well for the Buckeyes in that game and
- 0:55Speaker 1: some of the new things that they're doing this year,
- 0:58Speaker 1: and we're going to be starting with the four two five.
- 1:01Speaker 1: You probably know what the four two five is. Four
- 1:02Speaker 1: defensive linemen, two linebackers, five guys in the secondary and
- 1:06Speaker 1: quarter quarter half. So ross explain four to five and
- 1:10Speaker 1: what quarter quarter half means.
- 1:12Speaker 2: Yeah, So we're increasingly seeing I think we talked at
- 1:15Speaker 2: a little bit after Acron like with cover four two
- 1:17Speaker 2: these sort of uh split safety so you know each
- 1:21Speaker 2: safety is on not there's not one in the middle
- 1:23Speaker 2: of the field, there's two of them deep. These sort
- 1:25Speaker 2: of softer concepts for lack of a better word, they're
- 1:29Speaker 2: using these these I say that in the sense of,
- 1:31Speaker 2: like there's different ways you can play these kind of coverages,
- 1:35Speaker 2: right like in terms of how much how up you
- 1:37Speaker 2: have your cornerbacks, how soft you have them. But what
- 1:40Speaker 2: he's trying to I think you're we're seeing these more
- 1:42Speaker 2: and more from Knowles, and I think he likes these,
- 1:45Speaker 2: especially against like RPO heavy teams. It sort of gives
- 1:51Speaker 2: them a balance to each side of the formation to
- 1:53Speaker 2: deal with those concepts, and it allows their safeties, particularly
- 1:56Speaker 2: like to the boundary with Lathan Ransom to fill down,
- 1:58Speaker 2: so the corner is sort of protect Dean. They're playing
- 2:01Speaker 2: these top down they're protecting, you know, the corner is
- 2:04Speaker 2: playing off coverage because it allows the safeties to add
- 2:08Speaker 2: numbers against the run, so again against like RPO and
- 2:12Speaker 2: run specific but like you know, also they're able to
- 2:15Speaker 2: do this because of like how effective their defensive line
- 2:19Speaker 2: in particular is. I thought their defensive line years their
- 2:22Speaker 2: hand's great. I mean this play like Ty Hamilton blows
- 2:26Speaker 2: up the center, it's pretty stands out and like so
- 2:30Speaker 2: you know, but I think you see it throughout the game,
- 2:32Speaker 2: just like the defensive line controlling the line of scrimmage
- 2:34Speaker 2: and like that gives you a lot of freedom to
- 2:37Speaker 2: obviously play sort of softer in the back end the
- 2:41Speaker 2: you know, as I said, especially like these coverages, they'll
- 2:44Speaker 2: sort of give up the boundary flat. They'll maybe like
- 2:47Speaker 2: allow people to make four or five yard completions and
- 2:49Speaker 2: come downhill. But I just think that they they haven't
- 2:53Speaker 2: had to do a whole lot on defense, but they
- 2:57Speaker 2: don't necessarily need to when they have the defensive line
- 3:00Speaker 2: play that they're getting.
- 3:02Speaker 1: All right. Next up, they're in four to three cover one.
- 3:05Speaker 1: And this is something that you brought up as a
- 3:07Speaker 1: question during the game. Why are they playing four to
- 3:09Speaker 1: three so early? You're pulling Jordan Hancock off the field.
- 3:12Speaker 1: He's a big piece of this defense and you're pulling
- 3:14Speaker 1: him off the field for an extra linebacker. So walk
- 3:17Speaker 1: us through four to three cover one.
- 3:19Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did see, you know more. Fourth, I
- 3:22Speaker 2: don't think they use any against Akron and put against
- 3:25Speaker 2: like twelve percent or two tight ends. You saw more
- 3:27Speaker 2: some three linebacker sets. I continue to express my skepticism
- 3:33Speaker 2: and that's kind of a revealed by this clip just
- 3:36Speaker 2: in contrast to like the split safety stuff I was
- 3:39Speaker 2: just talking about. It just limits what they can do
- 3:41Speaker 2: coverage wise, in addition to taking what I you know,
- 3:44Speaker 2: one of their best players off the field at Handcock.
- 3:47Speaker 2: I don't think their linebackers are as good as their
- 3:49Speaker 2: defensive backs or their defensive line. Not that that's like
- 3:52Speaker 2: a necessarily a slight I mean, I just they're really
- 3:55Speaker 2: high level at those two spots, and so you know,
- 3:58Speaker 2: it limits. You know, one thing Jim Knowles brought from
- 4:01Speaker 2: Oklahoma State was like three safety cons three high safety concepts,
- 4:05Speaker 2: and like, even though they don't necessarily run three high safeties.
- 4:09Speaker 2: You see some of it permeate what they do and
- 4:12Speaker 2: it gives us some coverage flexibility like we talked about
- 4:14Speaker 2: the past, like they can drop to a and we
- 4:17Speaker 2: saw this game like a Cover two where Jordan Hancock
- 4:21Speaker 2: the nickel is one of the dp P haf and
- 4:23Speaker 2: you have Caleb Downs as like the Tampa Bay you know,
- 4:26Speaker 2: Tampa two pole runner, so he's sort of in the
- 4:28Speaker 2: middle of the field, or you can you know, rotate
- 4:30Speaker 2: the coverage either way. When they get into four to three,
- 4:34Speaker 2: they can't do that because they're not looking to drop
- 4:36Speaker 2: linebackers back, you know, and flip who's going where. So
- 4:41Speaker 2: you see here it's a Cover one in four to
- 4:43Speaker 2: three and that that limit and then they can't trade off.
- 4:47Speaker 2: The coverage is as much in Cover one even so
- 4:49Speaker 2: like you have here, as they know, like Western Michigan
- 4:52Speaker 2: took advantage of that.
- 4:53Speaker 1: They a little bit.
- 4:54Speaker 2: They sent there. They get into these twelve personnels and
- 4:57Speaker 2: then they'd send their wide receivers at motion and they
- 5:01Speaker 2: obviously it has to either follow like they did here
- 5:03Speaker 2: with David Davidson and Bunosa, or they spiked the coverage
- 5:07Speaker 2: and so like Latham Ranson came down on one and
- 5:09Speaker 2: nintenzel Burke went back to deep safety coverage. But like
- 5:12Speaker 2: you know, it's hard to play man coverage in this
- 5:14Speaker 2: situation where you're like chasing across the field and then
- 5:16Speaker 2: he's basically trying to keep up with this deep in
- 5:19Speaker 2: cutting route. And so you know, I get why they
- 5:22Speaker 2: probably want to put it on a film. They will
- 5:24Speaker 2: probably need it against the Iowas of the world to
- 5:26Speaker 2: play three linebackers, so it makes sense to get game reps.
- 5:29Speaker 2: I just think that it should continue to be a
- 5:32Speaker 2: sparing versus you know, small part of their package, all.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Right, And the last one we want to go through
- 5:37Speaker 1: today is called too Steel, And I thought, why is
- 5:40Speaker 1: this called too steel? And then you watch the video
- 5:42Speaker 1: and Cody Simon darn Near steals the ball from Western Michigan.
- 5:46Speaker 1: They very clearly were not expecting to be him to
- 5:48Speaker 1: be where he is. So walk us through to steel.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Yes, And my caveats to what I just said about
- 5:54Speaker 2: the four to three is like to the extent they
- 5:56Speaker 2: can do more in coverage with it, it's less of
- 5:58Speaker 2: a concerned And they did do some stuff like they
- 6:00Speaker 2: brand cover two and then here they run two steal
- 6:02Speaker 2: from the four to three and so I you know,
- 6:04Speaker 2: this is a great concept in itself. I thought it
- 6:07Speaker 2: was well timed and so, like as the name implies,
- 6:10Speaker 2: it's a it's a zone blitz. You're running two deep
- 6:13Speaker 2: for under and you're basically rotating the coverage, so you're
- 6:17Speaker 2: you're inviting the quarterback to throw right into where you're
- 6:21Speaker 2: rotating to hence like the steel term right, and so
- 6:24Speaker 2: you have basically to the three wide receiver or trip
- 6:28Speaker 2: side you have you're blitzing both. You're blitzing Rvl Reese
- 6:33Speaker 2: is the mic and Sunny Styles is kind of setting
- 6:35Speaker 2: up outside contained as the salmon, then coming in. And
- 6:38Speaker 2: then you have Ignunosen playing the flat so like a
- 6:40Speaker 2: trap two corner right, so he's seeing hard on any
- 6:43Speaker 2: like outbreaking route. And then you have from the backside
- 6:46Speaker 2: the will Cody Simon here he's playing like number two
- 6:49Speaker 2: in breaking routes as he breaks on the ball. And
- 6:52Speaker 2: then Latham Ranson's like is in a steel position, so
- 6:56Speaker 2: he's as you can see at the snap like he's
- 6:58Speaker 2: coming down and in and turning his shoulders towards the
- 7:01Speaker 2: inbreaking rounds. And again, so the concept is like you
- 7:04Speaker 2: think the quarterback's going to throw hot and you want
- 7:06Speaker 2: to throw and where the coverages and then you know
- 7:08Speaker 2: on the backside, you basically you're running. You're underneath defender
- 7:12Speaker 2: is Jack Sawyer. They sort of redog him here where
- 7:15Speaker 2: he's reading like you have only one vertical receiving threat
- 7:19Speaker 2: immediately right in the tight end and Denzel Berk's playing
- 7:21Speaker 2: the other deep half and cover two, but he can
- 7:24Speaker 2: kind of pick that up in man and then Sawyers,
- 7:26Speaker 2: I believe, reading the running back and once he stays
- 7:29Speaker 2: in the block, he also adds himself to the coverage.
- 7:32Speaker 2: So cool concept. You know, I think we're seeing like
- 7:36Speaker 2: dribs and drabs of of these sort of like pressures
- 7:39Speaker 2: that we've I've at least I have been calling for
- 7:42Speaker 2: from Jim Knowles, where you're not like it's not all
- 7:44Speaker 2: or nothing, like they're using five man's and blitzes or
- 7:47Speaker 2: four man simulated pressures. You know, again haven't had to
- 7:50Speaker 2: duel really a whole lot yet, but you can see
- 7:53Speaker 2: it in there and you know, as you said, this
- 7:55Speaker 2: nearly led to an interception.
- 7:58Speaker 1: Well thanks again to Ross for coming up and explaining
- 8:00Speaker 1: all the defensive stuff that you guys have been asking
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