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Week 18 (Part 2) NHL Fantasy Hot Topics + Mailbag Questions | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Babe about Bow banker management Fantasy hockey podcast Whoo
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whoo. Woo.
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Cool. Welcome in y'all to Bangor
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Management, The Fantasy Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh and
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Kevin today. What's today, Kevin?
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Is gonna be the day. That they're gonna throw it back
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to you. Right now.
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You should have somehow. Alright, that's enough, but
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before we get caught, I gotta do.
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Little episode, it's just us. Three ways singing songs.
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Yeah, ohhhhh. We have karaoke story that's.
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Really funny story, I learned how to play guitar.
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Like, I don't know, it's like almost 10.
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Years ago, it's like. One of the things that inspired
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me to play was that I heard Josh play Wonderwall by Oasis.
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Yeah, Josh, play guitar. I yeah I haven't played in a
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while but I know a couple 4 chord songs got some under my
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belt. Both of you play guitar.
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We don't have an original Jingle for anger management.
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We're just moving. For Wenger management.
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Instrumentals in there to complement the woos you.
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Know what? My voice is my instrument.
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Yeah, I'm well aware. That's something that's
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something we're gonna OK, I don't like.
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We're probably gonna get that for next year, but I feel like
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the fans are gonna miss our woos.
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No, we do both, obviously. Who's gonna be there?
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We can't undo the woos. Yeah.
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Yeah, well, let us know in the discord if you're gonna greatly
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miss our Jingle, but we'll figure something out.
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And I think there's a lot of harmonizing that we can do and
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make it a. Pretty strong.
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Really hard on this Jingle. I, I still remember vividly us
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being in my living room trying to come up with like what we're
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gonna do. And it was like, I think it was
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like a McDonald's, McDonald's like knockoff.
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It was that what it was? I don't know, no copyright or
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copyright, whatever the whatever the right thing is to say here.
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Trademark patent pending. Yeah, don't sue us.
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Oh, OK, anyway, today is our week 18 hot topics mailbag
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episode. Follow us on Apple, Spotify,
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Great community, always great interacting with all of you
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there. Thanks to everybody who's joined
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and to our future Discord members.
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And yeah, great time to. Join we're close to 300 in the
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discord so that would be cool to cross the 300 mark before the
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end of the season. Obviously we saw multiple weeks
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left so no doubt we will hit it unless I just jinxed us but.
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We all know what happens when we hit 300.
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What happens? Enlighten me?
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Karaoke episode, right? You know, I would love if people
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just wanted to listen to me karaoke for.
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Us, if we hit 150 reviews on Spotify, we're currently at like
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90 something right now. If we can hit 150 Spotify
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reviews, I will genuinely make a tick tock of me trying to do any
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kind of booty shake that is physically capable of my of
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myself. I will, I will.
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I'm putting it out there. It won't be pretty, but it'll be
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what you guys asked for, so. That's OK, We gotta make this
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happen. Josh and I was saying I will
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sing any song using any song that is voted the highest in the
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discord. We reached there, so we have a
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song while I try to throw it back.
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So that's that's. Great.
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Yeah, and I could do a lot of languages too.
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I know I could do the Numa Numa song in Romanian.
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I know 99 Luft balloons in German.
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So I will do my best for whatever gets voted the most.
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Alright, and you play guitar. Yeah, yeah.
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That's. What I'm here for cool let's I
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was getting a little hot topics. Let's do that.
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OK, first Hot Topic. God, this hurts, but I guess
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we'll just get into it. Connor Hellebuyck, What is his
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rest of season outlook after that monster game?
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As a comparable we can look at Jordan Bennington last year
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right? Where he was garbage and then
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has an unreal 4 nations and then just has an insane finish to the
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season. Can we expect a similar
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resurgence from Connor Hellebuyck?
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I mean, Connor Hellebuyck, if you look at the the advanced
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metrics, he was by far the most like saves above expected in the
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tournament. I think he was at like close to
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six. And the second closest was like
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Saros at like 4 1/2 or something like that.
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But I mean, that final against Canada, he went just absolutely
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nuclear. And I think if you're a Connor
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Hellebuyck owner, like you've been sad the whole season pretty
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much like he was injured for awhile.
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But I honestly think coming back from this, like I just feel like
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he's gonna be close to Connor Hellebuyck that we expected.
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And this is tough because I feel we had few other recently.
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We were just like so low Connor Hellebuyck.
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It was like Connor Hellebuyck or John Gibson.
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Who are you taking? And I think we all went John
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Gibson at this point given like Winnipeg is just dog awful and
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Hello Book was awful, but now like who are you taking?
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I don't think I, I think I I stayed.
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Hello. Bug.
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I think we all looked up gifts. I'm putting it into the world.
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I know I was. I was a I was a hater.
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Yeah, I'll admit it. I'm not gonna revise anything.
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I know people could pull the tapes on me, so I'm just gonna
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be honest. I was saying some crazy names
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that I would. Take.
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I know, I remember that. Yeah, I was a pretty big hater.
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Look, it's hard to give so much weight to something that
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happened outside of NHL season, right?
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He also like fact is that yes, his competition was hard, but he
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was also playing with someone like an insane decor same team
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as a whole. He's going back to Winnipeg,
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which is not a good team this year.
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So just like the same thing. Yeah, even though it's
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day-to-day. And I mean, look, the same thing
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could be said for Bennington last year, right?
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So I don't know. I wouldn't expect it to be like
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that level. I don't think he's gonna
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suddenly become the best goalie in the league again, but I
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expect him to do better than he was doing before.
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Is your top 10 goalie rest of season?
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What do you think, Jackie? I think so.
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I mean, off the top of my head is like Vasilevsky, Blackwood,
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Ottinger, that's three. Would you be willing to put
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there? Would you take Igor top 10?
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I don't know. Yeah, I I feel like if I have do
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you take halibut or ego? That's a good.
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Question. I'll take Hello book.
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Really. Yeah, I think The Jets have some
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sort of glimmer of hope. And I, I mean, as much as they
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look horrible in the standings right now, it's they're like
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three wins away from being in 5th place in the Central.
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And I don't even think it's impossible for them to overtake
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Utah for 4th. The top three are a lock.
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They're way stronger than anyone else in that division.
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But I think that they're going to make a serious playoff push.
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As much as I am not necessarily confident they'll make it,
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they're going to try for sure. They're like they'll overtake
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the they'll overtake Nashville, they'll overtake Chicago.
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I have little doubt of that. And I think they're eventually
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probably gonna overtake. Utah OK, so he's top five then?
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Yeah, I think he could be top. Five like it's your who who or
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the other top goalie would want. Like Kemper has been dog water
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but like he's usually around that conversation thanks to Rock
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and insane Yeah no God sent us been there Latinos to win a lot
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of games. He's a very.
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Small so hello back. I'm pretty sure I said
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confidently over Gibson, but there was the time where I think
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I took Grieves over Sorokin and that was a huge mistake.
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Yeah, I'll own up to it when I made the.
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Just got a shout out. 4111 out of 6 compared to.
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Yeah, I think, I think Vasilevsky, Sorokin are are two
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goalies I'm confidently taking over and Blackwood, really.
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And Ottinger, that's four. And then and then it may be and
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then it may be getting into Hellebuyck.
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Territory mean you're getting into.
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After that, it's the Logan Thompson's The Gust of Sins, the
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Busies. I don't hate Brandon Bush
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either. I was gonna say, I don't know if
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I can say he's top 10, but I I still think he's good.
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But whatever. Yeah, I think, I think honestly,
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it's in the top five to 10 range.
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So that's kind of where I'm at. Which is crazy.
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We were I think we had him at like top 20 like 3 weeks ago, 4
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weeks ago. And it's crazy how just like,
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you know, a few games at the Olympics really changes things,
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but it's. I don't know, I'm not ready to
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crown him the top five to 10 goalie just yet.
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I just think I have to see how he does on Winnipeg, you know,
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like Jake could save McDavid a breakaway out with that Team USA
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in front of him. OK, so.
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Even though that there's nobody between McDavid and the
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breakaway. Yeah, Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, it's all about the. Lives in the 46th anniversary of
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Miracle on Ice. Exactly.
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No, it's just like it's on the one hand, I don't want to
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discount the Olympics because we saw what it did for Bennington.
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Clearly like played at a different level.
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Yeah, but I'm saying like Bennington last year with the
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Four Nations, right? Like it showed that stuff
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outside of NHL play could have an impact on your rest of
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season. But at the same time, it's hard
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to just not to, you know, I want to stop myself from getting too
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caught up in the hype. Like he had one good game.
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It's not like he was that good the rest of the tournament.
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He the rest of tournament was Team USA was really good.
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He wasn't like bailing them out or anything.
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That was the one game where. You begin as well.
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That's true, that's true. I mean, I'm not he didn't play
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bad. I'm just saying that like the
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finals game was really the only one where I felt like he stole
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was like a big factor. Yeah, exactly.
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So like one good game is that enough to one good game plus
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being the best goalie last the. Super high stakes.
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Though, Yeah, I don't know. I think he's gonna be better,
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but I don't think he's gonna be top five.
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Woolley. If he didn't, yeah, that's the
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last thing a lot on this. But if you didn't have the
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pedigree that he does, then I'd feel a lot less confident.
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But he is like, I mean, there was a reason he was the pick the
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highest goalie this year, right? Yeah.
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So I think that this was just like the resurgence that he
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needed. And if it wasn't him, if it was
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anybody else, I would be like, OK, like, I'm not really
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thinking about it that deeply just because of how good he has
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been in recent years. I think that he could have a
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very strong finish. If you have Hello Book, are you
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trying to capitalize on this Team USA gold medal hype and
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trade them? If you can get one of those top
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five goalies, I would. Yeah, and also if like if my
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knee is to to, you know, if I, if I have like another two
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decent goalies and I wanna play or sure.
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But at the moment I'd rather kind of just keep him because I
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don't think like, I think people trying to buy him are not going
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to give the top five. Would you give me, would you
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trade Bussy for halibut right now?
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Yes. Fake by Duboc Little.
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Pussy and bathers. That's a little too much.
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I actually don't think I would like not necessarily do that
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cause I think it's it's close enough.
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But busy, busy for hell. But I feel like some leagues,
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you know, the manager was like, finally I can get him off my
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roster and other leagues are gonna be like, finally he's
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back. Yeah, I can buy him.
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I don't know. I.
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Think that could get done? I don't think that's a crazy
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trade offer. I don't even know which one I'd
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rather, honestly. But he just signed a contract
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extension for like 1.5 million or whatever it was.
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Saying I can't believe. How they got that deal done?
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But it makes no sense. They're starter for like less
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than two mil. How he's not like really their
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starter, right? Like.
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Anderson is gone and Kochetkov is like always.
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I was gonna say dead, but like, I don't.
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Know yeah no I mean I get it my instinct also was like this is a
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ridiculous like steel but he's only played like this is the
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only reason he's ever played and played like 20 games or
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something you know it's a for him like he's on he's kind of
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like a relatively nobody who you know made a bunch of money was
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getting a bit off track here but.
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I think, yeah, yeah, I think, I think it's gonna be a good rest
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in Outlook for Hello Book. Yeah.
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Let's go to the right on that same vein, what do we think
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about Jack Hughes's rest of season outlook after scoring
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that golden goal? Losing a couple teeth, maybe
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shows up with some golden teeth, you know, who knows?
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But yeah, what do we think? Do we think that?
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I mean, we've been talking about Hughes in part with Brad and
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kind of like that whole New Jersey, like top guys, top power
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play unit as bounce back candidates for a while.
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Do we think that he's finally healthy from that hand injury?
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Because pre pre Olympics it seemed like he still was, you
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know, playing injured. Um, but now it seems like
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everything's better. You know, he's right in that
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high. Is he gonna finish off the
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season as that like late first round pick that most people
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grabbed him at? This is the opposite of the
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Central Division. I think the Metropolitan is
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loaded and is really, really going to be tough for them to
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advance. But they're also, they're not
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out of it either. They're gonna try and yeah,
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they're definitely gonna. I think the Rangers and the
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Flyers are the only two teams that I'm counting out of the
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playoffs in this division. I don't think either of them are
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going to make it. And then between the other 6, I
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think it's kind of Fair game, honestly.
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Except Caroline is the only lock.
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Other than that, even Pittsburgh, especially if Crosby
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does miss some time. So I think like, that's kind of
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like an overall macro approach to this.
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And then if you kind of get into the nitty gritty of it all, if
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this team is to succeed, it's gonna be would Jack Hughes
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succeeding? There's no way that the Devils
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are going to do anything without him being involved.
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And I think that this could lead to a slight yes for Brad
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resurgence as well as we've spoken about a little bit
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overall, I don't think he's going to suddenly turn into
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necessarily like, you know, a 2 point per game counter guy.
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But 1.1 to 1.3 rest of season, I don't think that's out of the
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cards. I I really like the potential of
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Jack used to end the season. I think I've been higher on him
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than most for throughout the whole year.
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I've bought him in many leagues. We talked about that trade I
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made earlier, like Batherson and Hyman for JQ.
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That was a big one when I did that and then he got hurt like
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shortly after. So it was like I was kind of not
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happy about that. But I think coming back after
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the, the momentum and the adrenaline of scoring that, you
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know, game-winning goal in the Olympics for your team in
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overtime, and then coming back on a New Jersey team that, you
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know, a lot of their top guys went to the Olympics.
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It was, you know, he sure. And Timo on the on Switzerland
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and, and Brad playing 6 minutes and he's gonna come back with a
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vengeance after Team Sweden did him dirty.
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So, so I'm, I'm thinking they all take that experience.
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They come back and they, you know, keep staying locked in and
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they turn up and I think New Jersey can finish the season
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strong. I don't think they make the
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playoffs, but I think one of those teams that is not
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interested in like punting the year, I think they're gonna try
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and delivery last game. So I'm expecting big things from
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Jack. I think he's gonna get close to
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his four shots a game. I'm expecting at least a point
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per game and up and I think the power play can really go off.
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So I'm excited about this devil's team, but I was excited
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always. So I'm just still keeping it up
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and hoping that I'm vindicated and not let down.
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Yeah, I agree. I'm very ill.
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I've been high on Hughes the whole year.
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I've been trying to buy the whole year and now it's
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definitely too late. So yeah, yeah, I think it's
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gonna be great and the season for him.
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Alright, next we've got Brayden Point of the Tampa Bay
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Lightning. I feel like it's been a while
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since we've had the chance to talk about him.
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Obviously he's still injured there.
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I haven't seen any news about him yet in terms of when his
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return timeline looks like. I know when he originally got
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injured they were like he's out for the Olympics, but he's not
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out rest of season. It's not as bad as it looked,
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but and the day we still don't know, right.
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So I don't expect him to be back this week because I feel like we
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have heard something by now. So is this someone that you
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wanna buy still? Are you still trying to like
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grab him? Do you think he's coming back at
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some point rest of the season? And if so, do you think you can
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be, you know, the player that he was drafted to be rest of the
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season? Uh, look, if he does play, I
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think that I think that he's going to have a super strong
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finish. It was a very rocky year for him
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all year. How this is going to work is
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that he's going to take line 1 centre and he'll play with maybe
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not even Kucherov, like maybe it'll be like line 2, but I'll
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play with Denzel or Hagel. So he'll be very well positioned
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for success. He'll also be on power play 1.
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And the fact that this team, it was clicking on all cylinders
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without him and then you just inject them into the lineup,
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he'll be sick. And you know, we can't forget
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that right before the injury, he was doing really, really well.
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He was cold for the vast majority of the year, then was
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going on an absolute terror and then unfortunately got hurt.
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So I think that he can kind of just like if there are going to
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play him, then it means that that he's healthy enough to
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play. I don't think they're gonna rush
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him back to the lineup because they are in a good position for
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the playoffs. And that, to me, would indicate
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that he's gonna play. He's gonna play well.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm in the same boat.
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I mean, as we speak, I think most of you guys are passive
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trade deadline. But if you're still able to
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trade for Britain point, I'm looking through that ASAP.
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I know I'm probably going to answer a lot of questions in the
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discord come everybody's trade deadlines.
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I'm already getting them about Brennan point, what to do?
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Who do I trade them for? But if you have point, I'd be
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very happy. I'd be very confident about this
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production rest of season because when healthy is going to
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be line one power play one playing with Kucherov.
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I think honestly there's like arguing maybe no better place to
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be in the whole league. So we know how high he can he
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can play in terms of talent level.
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He's also goal scorer too. I feel like people forget that.
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Like he he can score a lot of goals and a lot of points that
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are valuable, even categories. You still want guys that will
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score more than they assist type of thing.
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So I like point a lot. And like I said before, I mean,
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we just uploaded a short form content like sell Brandon Hagel
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right now, because when point comes back, he's probably going
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to lose that power play 1. So that's just kind of like ties
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everything together here. Yeah, OK, here's a more niche
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one, but, uh, as Habs fans, it's fun to talk about Patrick Line.
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How does a potential trade affect his value?
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I was seeing that in over the course of the Olympic break.
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He's pretty much close to healthy.
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I think he is healthy. They just haven't officially
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activated him. But what I saw from a finished
18:21
source training the Olympic break is that he's pretty much
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essentially an LA king already. So yeah, look, we'll see what
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happens. It hasn't been announced yet in
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the trade freeze lifted at midnight last night.
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That may affect yeah exactly. But but I think like if he goes
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to LA, which it seems to be rumored that he is, I see him
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slotting in his line 2 power play 1 and I think that could be
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it could be a very interesting spot right powerfully 1.
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He could be like the finisher on the for planarians like passes.
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Sure. Exactly.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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Referencing our waivers episode from last Sunday.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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So I, I think that like, look, I don't expect him to do anything
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5 E 5. I think like that's just not the
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type of player he is anymore. But if he's just a power play
19:13
merchant, last year he was getting like .37 power play
19:16
points per game. Like sure he didn't play a lot
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right, but that's a that's elite power play production.
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So I'd be interested in picking him up if he got straight to LA.
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I don't know you guys. Think I mean, I'm always on just
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the team that like I just don't want to roster him.
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I just I think he in my mind, he's kind of like a Kuzmenko but
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more power play as opposed to anything else.
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And I think funny enough, like you would be just, you know,
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he'd replace Kuzmenko on the power play 1 and I think he'd
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have value there. But I think line 2 is arguably
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generous with his defensive capabilities.
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I can easily see him see him be like a line three guy line
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three, line 4 playing power play 1.
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And then if you're so bad, you end up getting demoted for power
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play one too. Because the team wants the guys
19:58
that are not living up to the hype, but the guys that are
20:01
contributing to be on that power play 1.
20:03
And maybe they can leverage this, but I feel like trying to
20:07
put him there training for him because they're desperate
20:09
because they need somebody to replace Fiala.
20:12
And also they're honestly helping to have that with
20:14
getting the contract off the books.
20:15
So I feel like, you know, there's just the cap room.
20:17
If they have the room this season, his contract expired at
20:19
the end of the year. Like it's basically just a
20:21
rental for them. But I mean for them it's like a
20:24
no brainer. They need they need somebody to
20:26
replace Fiala. And why not get like a guy that
20:29
has a good shot that maybe they can leverage for their power
20:32
play. That's already been dog awful.
20:34
So yeah, I can see him having some, but it might be too 1
20:37
dimensional for my liking. So I wouldn't be interested, but
20:40
I can see how some people would be.
20:42
Yeah, I think, I think whether he stays on the Hobbs or gets
20:45
traded, this is not the year that he's gonna have any sort of
20:48
resurgence. Honestly, as much as it seems
20:52
like his career is kind of like dead in the water, it's like
20:56
this year he's basically been injured the whole year.
20:59
Last year had injury issues in the year before, but then 2223,
21:03
which is not that long ago, he was almost point per game.
21:05
The year before he was a point per game.
21:06
There's nothing possible that yeah, but I don't think it's
21:09
impossible that next year he comes back and actually is a
21:12
decent player, but there's not year for that no matter what.
21:15
I don't wanna roster any team this year in a dynasty league or
21:18
anything like that. Like I'm not like completely
21:20
dropping him. I don't think he has 0 hope but
21:22
for redraft this year, no matter where he is, I'm not interested.
21:26
We said that last year. I guess I'm the outlier here
21:28
because I think I think he can have some value, like if he's on
21:32
a power play 1 somewhere, but I also think that you could pick
21:35
him up and then drop him a week later.
21:37
You think Hillary will be, you know, encouraging LINAE when he
21:40
sees him not backtrack or anything like that?
21:42
You think he's gonna like that type of player?
21:45
No, I, I just think that if they trade for him and they, they
21:48
actually play him, look, if they trade for him, they're either
21:50
scratching him or putting one power play one.
21:52
That's my opinion. I don't see like what value does
21:55
he have? Is he if he's not on power play
21:56
1 and like you don't have to trade for him.
21:58
So if you're trading from it's to play him and if you're
22:00
playing him is to put him on power play 1.
22:02
So look, he's going to do nothing at even strength.
22:05
But if he gets you, like he could take three shots on a
22:07
single power play. You know, if he just sits there
22:08
and claps bombs from like the you know, the the hash marks
22:12
like the entire power play just Panarin just saucing and stuff
22:15
and he just launches and he scores 1 every like 2 games or
22:18
three games something like that like it's.
22:20
Unlikely they might need just a little guy like line 4 power
22:24
play 1 and I guess they're power play going from like 29th to
22:27
18th and honestly it'll be a huge success for them.
22:30
So I don't hate it. But for fantasy I'm like, I
22:33
don't know how reliable that is. I'd rather just pick up Corey
22:35
Perry, who's already like a power play kind of specialist
22:38
there and get that value. But we'll.
22:41
See, I think that's fair. Still all hypothesis I
22:45
definitely I'm definitely not high on line a I just think that
22:49
he. Could you?
22:49
Heard it here for first line. Better than McDavid, not as good
22:55
as Josh Norris. So so if he does stay on the
22:59
Hobbs then world I'm interested though.
23:01
Yeah, no, he has. To get you wouldn't make the
23:03
roster. I don't know like.
23:05
Yeah, honestly, I think he's been healthy for a bit.
23:07
Honestly, I think they've just been keeping him on.
23:09
I don't know if you're able to do that actually, maybe not, but
23:12
think that he could have come back earlier.
23:14
They just don't really want to play.
23:15
Anyways, on the topic of the Habs, Sam Montalvo and Jacob
23:19
Dobesh, who is the starter feel we've been getting this question
23:22
all year. And as Habs fans, you know,
23:24
people expect us to know. And I feel like we've been
23:27
pretty consistent actually with our answer where every time, I
23:30
mean, at least for me, I've always said it's going to be
23:32
mountable, you know, and there's been Dobish periods, there's
23:35
been Fowler periods, there's been, you know, some mountable
23:38
periods. But at the end of the day, going
23:41
into the playoffs, like who's going to be there?
23:44
I mean, first of all, it's gonna be the guy who performs the
23:46
best, but who's gonna be given the most opportunities.
23:48
It's going to be Montalbo. And I think going into the
23:52
coming out of the Olympic break, I think he's going to be the
23:55
starter until he proves otherwise.
23:59
So I have very little confidence in saying this, but I actually
24:03
think it's going to be Dobesh. There's a lot of there's a lot
24:07
of and like, I am like, this is not a hill I wanna fight for, as
24:12
some say, really like to me, I just kind of look at this and
24:18
there is a decent amount of hype over the fact that Dublish is
24:22
doing this as essentially a rookie in the league.
24:26
Then that's pretty cool. And he he's winning a lot of
24:30
games. Like his percentages aren't
24:32
great or anything like that. So for fantasy, we kind of gloss
24:34
over it and we're like, hey, but he is the goalie who I'm pretty
24:38
sure has the best winning percentage on the Habs this
24:40
year. And that says something for a
24:41
team that, you know, it's not like we're like a lock by any
24:45
means. We're we're trying to push for
24:46
the Atlantic is super scary. So I think that I think it
24:51
Dobesh may actually like, I think it's gonna start out as a
24:54
tandem and say who start who plays better.
24:56
But I think that the hubs are one of these teams that actually
24:59
does want to lock in on A1 goalie situation going into the
25:01
playoffs as opposed to a Buffalo who may just actually write out
25:04
the tab and the rest of the season.
25:06
So to me, I predict it's going to be tandem for a week, maybe 2
25:10
and then is going to be the one to take it.
25:12
I could very easily see it being Montebello.
25:15
So I really, it's very tough. I'm so conflicted because if we
25:20
didn't get the Olympic break, it was like Dobesh's job and he ran
25:23
away with it, right? And they were starting to get
25:25
the stats out. Like look how many games he's
25:28
won this season. Like whenever he plays, he wins.
25:31
So why don't why are we letting him run with this opportunity
25:33
instead of playing, you know, bringing up Jacob Fowler and
25:36
giving Monty chance after chance after chance.
25:38
Now The thing is, the last game multiplayer before the Olympic
25:42
break, he dropped like a 970 Winnipeg and really killed it.
25:46
And then we have the Olympic break that kind of like resets
25:49
the stage and Monty is the guy that they want to be the
25:53
starter. He has the pedigree, has a
25:54
history of being the starter. If they could Force One guy to
25:57
be the starter would be Monty. But all the performances are in
26:00
dubious favor. So I'm with Jake.
26:01
Honestly, I feel like it's a really mixed, mixed situation.
26:05
I actually just picked up Monty in one league.
26:07
When I had the opportunity to pick up, it was him or like UPL
26:10
and I took with Monty because I feel like he has the opportunity
26:13
to just run away with the clear starter.
26:16
But I'm not confident in it at all.
26:19
Although I do think that with the reset they'll give him the
26:22
chance and whether he takes it, that's up to him.
26:26
Yeah, so I'm not confident in it at all.
26:28
I was just saying that I think like, like I think that's why
26:31
it's been such a like big topic of conversation, right, Is that
26:33
there's just no clear easy answer.
26:36
Um, I still, I still do lean Monty though, but like all the
26:39
performance, says Dobish. Listen on the season, multiple
26:44
is 10/8 and two. Dobesh is 18, five and four.
26:47
It's crazy, right? That's ridiculous.
26:50
And a better save percentage like, you know, like to to to
26:55
me, the the choice is kind of obvious here, but I agree that
27:00
they're gonna want to default to Montalbo.
27:02
But I still think that it's just gonna be clearly Dobish's job
27:06
because he's been better and I think he will continue to be.
27:11
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised either way, honestly.
27:13
Yeah. I hope it's Monty.
27:16
You do. I just think whoever exposure,
27:20
yeah, but as a Habs fan, I want it to be mounted because I feel
27:23
like that he has the higher ceiling.
27:25
But I'm happy rolling with whatever comes the results.
27:28
Yeah, exactly. And I think so.
27:30
So is the management. So really, at the end of the
27:32
day, it's up to them. Whichever, whichever.
27:34
Imagine we treat for Bennington. I'd be devastated.
27:37
That'd be awful. Now, we're not.
27:39
We're not as dumb as Edmonton. Exactly.
27:41
Yeah. All right, let's get into some
27:44
questions. So Paul on Discord asked, what
27:47
are your thoughts on the Department of Player Safety?
27:49
Why are some terrible hits allowed, and why are the
27:51
punishments so inconsistent? I mean.
27:57
If we could, if we could answer this question properly, I think
28:00
we'd have better jobs than we do.
28:01
But. Yeah, yeah.
28:04
Honestly, to me, yeah. No, I was gonna say like, like
28:08
I, I, I, we obviously can't give like a, a specific like thorough
28:14
answer here. But the way that I see it is
28:17
that if I'm taking the, I guess the naive approach, if you will,
28:21
and that like, there's no bias whatever is that there are like
28:25
technically certain hits, which like may look way worse than
28:29
they are. But it could simply be because
28:31
the player who got hit was in like a position that like, let's
28:34
say he was off balance already and then he got hit into the
28:36
boards and it looked like a huge, you know, illegal hit, but
28:40
it just was because the player was positioned badly.
28:43
And maybe they look into it. But if you're a fan of the team,
28:46
of the player who got hit into the boards horribly, obviously
28:49
you're gonna be pissed at the end of the day.
28:51
Like sometimes it's just like, you know, it's not the player's
28:55
intent to injure. It just so happens to be that
28:57
the other guy was like off balance and fell or something
29:00
like that. And it looks really bad.
29:02
Then there's the if I'm taking the skeptical approach, like
29:05
certain players kind of get like a free reign for those things, I
29:08
have no idea. I don't know why that would be
29:10
the case. It's not really fair.
29:12
But yeah. What do you guys think?
29:15
I mean, I honestly, I don't think there's some big
29:18
conspiracy out there. I know everyone online thinks
29:20
that the Florida Panthers paid off 1st or like, I think like
29:24
the Florida Panthers have like an owner, like a GM or something
29:27
who's like related to someone who's like connected to the plan
29:30
player safety. And they're like, I like, you
29:32
know, and people online are like, oh, the Panthers never get
29:35
penalized for whatever, you know, I don't know, I don't
29:37
think there's a big, a big conspiracy going on.
29:39
I think it's just inherently a very subjective job and
29:43
subjective punishment. Like it's just the nature of the
29:47
game where it's impossible for it to be like a pure objective
29:50
because every hint is different to every situation is different.
29:52
You can't have like as much as you have the rules, you know,
29:55
like at the end of the day, it's objective.
29:56
So I think that's why it happens where it's lopsided sometimes.
30:00
They also always take into account like history of the
30:03
aggressor, like whoever made the hit.
30:04
And also they always take into account like, yeah, how bad the
30:08
injury was. Like if the guys out for a month
30:10
and somebody else's out for like a week and the same kind of hit
30:13
exactly the same way they got us out for a month is probably
30:16
going to get a more severe, you know, suspension or whatever.
30:22
Yeah, the the the one that's like comes to mind kind of like
30:25
when I was just saying how like, you know, like it's like not the
30:27
players intent to injure it just like sort of happens at the
30:30
other player was in a bad position that Chara hit on
30:32
patcher ready like 15 years ago, remember something like that and
30:36
he didn't get to spend it and you don't have.
30:39
Entire the entire board system for every year because of that
30:43
to the rounded corners. That was crazy.
30:47
See, like, I, I mean, that looked horrible.
30:50
But at the end of the day, like, yeah, it was, it was really
30:54
scary actually. Yeah, it was not like, I mean, I
30:57
don't know. I mean Chara was a pretty
30:59
aggressive player, but you can see that it.
31:00
Was a physical player, but he was still, I feel like he was a
31:03
nice guy. No, it wasn't like his intent
31:05
was trying. To kill him, yeah.
31:06
Yeah, exactly. So it's like one of those is
31:09
Hobbs found your outrage. How do you know your best player
31:12
just gets destroyed on the ice? But at the other, on the other
31:16
hand, it's like, OK, well, you know, it was some horrible
31:19
position there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:22
I don't know. Alright, Tyler Moore on
31:25
undiscovered hidden along that was one that's yeah, yeah, I
31:28
mean I think about it when I think when I see like the
31:30
rounded boards because it's literally why they changed it.
31:31
So it's but yeah, no crazy. OK, Tyler Moore on Discord asked
31:35
what are your guys actual jobs? That's ourselves.
31:40
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
31:43
What do you guys do? I would love to know.
31:47
Keeping your vague enough, I do work at a consulting company I
31:51
just a lot of projects that have to do with like analytics and
31:54
stuff like that. So trying to bring in my fantasy
31:58
hockey relevant experience to my actual day job.
32:01
Josh, you go. How to be vague about my job
32:06
title? Yeah.
32:07
No, I have a funny answer. Or you go.
32:09
First, OK, yeah, I know. I, I just, I work in, in
32:13
strategy for awhile, which, you know, checks out with the, with
32:16
the fantasy stuff, big, big Excel guy.
32:19
And that's why I have all these these fun Excel models for, for
32:22
fantasy as well. So it kind of is like a cycle.
32:25
I'll like learn some new Excel trick at work and then I'll
32:27
bring it into my fantasy Excel and then like I'll learn
32:30
something new there and bring it into work and it all ties in
32:32
together. It's fun.
32:34
Both my answer please. Do you guys know that from?
32:42
Yeah, I'm your mother. Yeah, in the last season it's
32:45
like an acronym for like him. Yeah, provide legal exculpation
32:50
and sign everything. Essentially he's.
32:53
Escape plot within the show like.
32:55
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that was brilliant.
32:58
Yeah, that was actually brilliant.
32:59
So that's not actually what I do, but to be way less vague, I
33:03
work in finance. All right.
33:04
Next question. Because you could get.
33:08
Yeah. I just labeled yourself as a
33:09
classic finance bro. Now we get.
33:11
To seriously. That's yeah, that's me.
33:14
You're one of the backwards hat. Nobody in finance where's hats?
33:20
They're all 65 and blue blue eyes and wear suits and go to
33:24
Cathcart. That's actually spot on.
33:32
OK, let's move on. China on Discord asked how do
33:35
you guys go about discussing trades you're trying to do?
33:38
How do you sell it to whoever you're trying to trade with?
33:40
I love this question because I feel like this is like, it's not
33:43
just about the trade you send, it's about talking to the person
33:47
and you know, like framing it the right way.
33:49
So I mean the way. It's all about the trade you
33:52
send. It's about the friends you lost
33:54
along the way. That is absolutely true.
34:01
And you know for. This trade, the best trade is a
34:04
trade where you win, but the other person's not upset about
34:07
it. So then you can trade with them
34:08
again. So in future years or in that
34:11
season. So yeah, that's that is the way
34:14
I see it. I don't wanna like completely
34:15
RIP someone off and then they never want to trade with me
34:17
again because you got to think long term.
34:19
But in terms of like how you can talk to them with the trade,
34:20
like I like to explain first of all, why it makes sense for
34:23
their team. You know, I like to look at what
34:25
a team might the person I'm trading with needs, right?
34:27
If it's a specific position, if it's a specific category.
34:30
So that's how I start my hypothesis.
34:32
OK, look at teams who have a need of something that I have a
34:34
surplus of. So then I explain it to them why
34:37
it would make sense on their end.
34:38
But then I also think it's important to explain why it
34:40
makes sense on my end. Because if I don't explain why
34:42
I'm doing the trade, then they just think, oh, you're trying to
34:44
please me in some way with some information.
34:46
I don't know. So if I explain it being like I
34:48
have too many centres, that's why.
34:50
And I would like a left wing. So that's why I'm doing this
34:52
positional switch or I have too many goals, I need more assists,
34:55
you know, like stuff like that. Like if you could come up with a
34:58
reason in your head, you can be like, I'm actually buying low
35:00
and selling high at that part. You don't say out loud, you
35:01
know, but but if you come up with like the general reason,
35:04
which makes sense and is, you know, partially slash fully
35:06
true, um, then I find that's a great way of like framing the
35:10
trade and people aren't as suspicious of you.
35:14
Yeah, I I kind of it it doesn't always work out this way.
35:19
So let let let me let me give a good little profaci there.
35:22
I like looking at my opponents team and seeing what he kind of
35:28
wants. My opponents team would want to
35:31
necessarily. Get out of the trainer, McDavid.
35:35
No, but like, for instance, like Josh had McDavid and I knew that
35:39
like for him to have the stack of dry saddle McDavid, that
35:42
would make a lot more sense. And at the time, I wasn't
35:44
competitive in faceoffs like cultural back.
35:47
And then we did another bad trade for me, but that's neither
35:51
here nor there like another one. And it doesn't even necessarily
35:55
mean that like I'm winning or losing, but just by that.
35:59
But let's say for instance, like, you know, I just offered
36:02
like another trade where the guy I traded to, I know he has like
36:05
a few leaves on his team and he could, it was a fair trade,
36:09
honestly, maybe even in his favor.
36:10
But I got back a bit of a better playoff schedule.
36:13
So like I, I kind of see it like as an incremental win.
36:16
It's never a slam dunk. You don't wanna feel like you're
36:18
being the person off. The person doesn't want to feel
36:19
like he's being ripped off, but he wants to look at his team and
36:22
be like, if I have this team after like that could be really
36:24
good, but you kind of know you're winning a little bit
36:28
anyways. Yeah, I, I hear what you're
36:31
saying. Um, but I mean the, the question
36:36
was how do you discuss trades? Um, and my trade discussion, I
36:43
would say like motto is always I want to, I want to, I want to
36:50
make it a fair trade. Obviously, I'm, I'm way less
36:53
than the fleece department. Josh is always in the Police
36:56
Department. I think what?
36:57
Are you talking about? Do you guys you guys tend to to
37:01
try to not try to fleece but like I think it's.
37:03
What you say Phosphor? Yeah, seriously.
37:07
You know what I will say though, I just like for this before you
37:10
go on, Kevin, like a good thing. Actually, it's like I kind of
37:14
know the most people in the league.
37:16
So that's like one thing that like big starting point is is
37:19
you guys like asking me like what are their numbers and then
37:23
me going to. Them.
37:24
OK. Just so you know, there could be
37:26
a lot of there could be a lot of texting coming just so you know,
37:30
I don't know, like watching or offering and then I and then I
37:33
connect you guys and I'll just know like not now whatever.
37:38
We moved, we moved the league over to like kind of everyone
37:41
has each other's contact, which is good.
37:43
But at the end of the day, the point is that like it's good to
37:45
actually know the person on a personal level.
37:48
That's one thing that I guess I didn't factor into like my
37:50
original answer and you don't have to, but like enough that
37:54
it's not just like in the Yahoo chat like yo, you like McDavid
37:58
question mark, like, you know, like like actually like know the
38:02
person to actually like develop something.
38:03
It works so. Yeah, I mean, that's a good
38:06
point too, right? Like a lot of people just don't
38:08
have the ability to actually message other person, just like
38:10
sending offers back and forth. Sometimes you read a little
38:12
message in the Yahoo Yahoo chat box attached to trade and you're
38:16
like, hey, send me a calendar or whatever.
38:17
But in general, like when I'm trading with somebody, first of
38:21
all, like Josh said, you always want to kind of be fulfilling a
38:24
need on both ends, right? It's just, you know, this person
38:27
needs this. I have a surplus of this.
38:29
First, you find trade partners that are complementary, right?
38:33
You can't always trade with every team.
38:34
Josh and I've been trying to trade together for feels like,
38:37
you know, since Week 1. I've been trying to trade with
38:39
you. You haven't been trying to
38:41
trade. With me, I'm open to it.
38:42
I just don't think our teams are compatible.
38:43
I think we're both trying to do the same type of trade, so we're
38:45
not gonna work. We're trying to do it to each
38:47
other. I just wanna give a worse player
38:48
and get a better player. Listen, I also want to do that.
38:54
You're so difficult. Yeah, but the point is you're
38:56
offering me your guys are literally tried to cut so.
38:59
I was trying to break up the band with this question.
39:01
I'm just. Saying.
39:03
But I also like painting a certain narrative for certain
39:06
players, like if I'm trying to buy low on a certain guy, if you
39:10
can frame a narrative that's like not necessarily tied to the
39:13
biology, but separately, it can kind of like not mask what
39:17
you're trying to do. But like, I wanted to buy Jack
39:21
Hughes for a long time and I was like, listen, I know Hughes is a
39:24
great player, but I really want the brat and Hughes stack.
39:26
I'm already invested in Brad and he sucks.
39:28
Like I'm just trying to go all in here, you know?
39:31
And then being like, I'm still offering a good value.
39:33
I was giving like Panera and plus at the time, which was like
39:35
more value than probably most people would have been willing
39:37
to give, but kind of just trying to frame the conversation in a
39:41
certain way that maybe isn't directly tied to the players
39:43
like up and down. I also like overpaying for
39:46
trades all the time to be honest.
39:47
And you guys might not think that they're overpays, but like
39:51
I do. One of those miles I'm very
39:53
happy to. Do low stakes overpays where I'm
39:56
like this is probably an L for me, but I'm confident in my
39:59
ability to find replacement value on waivers so I'm happy to
40:03
give more value here and maybe lose the.
40:05
Trade quote UN quote but then like it still making my team
40:08
better in the long term. Like when I traded for draft
40:10
this year. I think I think on paper I lost
40:12
that trade when we made. It no, that was a win on the.
40:15
Spot it was it was definitely not a win on the spot.
40:17
I was giving a guy that was first of all, better than Durham
40:19
at the time with Paul Mary. Plus I was giving Vince Dunn,
40:22
who was a power play 1 defenseman and then Dorothea was
40:26
dog water for two months. So it was like OK, I was it was
40:29
a big elf for awhile and now they're playing is good and Paul
40:32
married Alfred the seasons early.
40:34
OK, like it was maybe not. I believe you.
40:35
Doubted us for only going for the fleece, yeah.
40:38
That's crazy. So you always go for the fleece,
40:40
but it's like I'm I'm I'm content with like an not as big
40:45
of a win as you guys would be, let's say, if that makes sense.
40:49
I I traded 4 zetterling Bossier. OK, yeah.
40:53
And then he spent like the whole evening, tried to convince us
40:55
how good Zeppelin is. So I don't know.
40:57
I don't know. Anyway, anyway, the next
41:02
question. I don't really go for the
41:03
fleece, but if it's offered to me, I'll take it.
41:07
All right. China don't have such a
41:12
contentious question. Next time, please.
41:15
I'm kidding. It was a great question.
41:16
OK, let's go next one. No man discord asked.
41:19
Have the Olympics changed your view on any players fallacy,
41:22
fantasy outlook, rest of season? For example Slough going God
41:25
Mode or certain players that got rest from not going to the
41:28
Olympics? So honestly, Hughes and Hella
41:31
Buck are two that we spoke about that I definitely kind of want
41:34
to start off the answer with Slough.
41:37
I was expecting a big finish from Slough anyways because
41:40
that's kind of what he does like past few years to finish all of
41:43
the season and after the Olympics I'm just we're
41:46
confident. So he's a great, great one.
41:50
And one more name we'll throw in there.
41:51
I think Devorski could be kind of a low key really decent
41:55
player to finish the season, but that's in deeper leagues so.
42:01
I do area. I'll go ahead.
42:02
No, go ahead. No.
42:04
You go first. OK, alright.
42:08
So go pony boy. So you hang up, OK?
42:13
To, to, to echo what Jackie said, I think he, he mentioned
42:16
the big names. I, I also think like we, we get
42:20
into this bubble of like trying to overvalue what happened at
42:23
the Olympics, but it's still a sample size of games that we
42:27
need to take into account. Like this player was on the ice
42:29
playing hockey with other NHL players pretty much, right.
42:31
It was just kind of like mini All Star game, it feels like.
42:35
I really think what opened my eyes a lot was the players that
42:40
were more integral to their international team than their
42:44
NHL team, let's say. So it really surprised me that
42:47
Granlund was the captain for Finland.
42:49
And to me that tells me like, OK, he's a guy that holds a lot
42:52
of respect in the locker room, that maybe his pull for
42:56
deployment is stronger than we anticipated because, you know,
42:59
people look up to him like Sebastian all holds on that
43:01
team. Ranson was on that team, and yet
43:03
it was grand that was the captain of that team.
43:05
So to me, that just kind of like makes me think, OK, granted,
43:08
going back to Anaheim will have a bigger role than we anticipate
43:11
because he commands a lot of respect.
43:13
Um, so I think that was kind of something that really yeah, I
43:16
think it really came into play and I think a lot of a lot of
43:20
extrapolation can happen for goalies.
43:22
Yeah. I think Akira Schmid didn't even
43:25
he played backup to I I forget the guys name, but it was like
43:30
begone something or something. It sounded like Italian almost,
43:34
but I was like, if you can't even be the starter for Team
43:37
Switzerland on. Genoni.
43:39
Genoni, that's what it sounded. Right.
43:42
Yeah. And if you can be the starter
43:45
there, like, how was he supposed to come be with Aiden Hill back
43:47
in Vegas? You know?
43:48
So I'm like. OK, yeah, that's fair.
43:50
I mean, for me, in terms of players that played the big
43:52
name, maybe this wishful thinking, but Maclin, Celebri,
43:56
look, I mean he was, he played I think.
43:58
He missed so many shots though. He didn't miss a lot of shots in
44:01
the finals, but now he he was playing with McDavid the entire
44:04
time with McKinnon as well. For a lot of the time.
44:06
He was constantly, you know, one of the top 2 most like time on
44:09
ice forwards on Team Canada. And he made like the Olympic
44:13
like All Star team. He was just phenomenal.
44:17
I mean, he like was just unreal. And look, it's kind of hard to
44:20
say he's going to do better than he that he was doing this entire
44:23
season, but it makes me feel better about the fact that maybe
44:26
he can maintain what he was doing the entire season because
44:29
of how well he did at the Olympics.
44:31
I think that he's just, you know, this whole season slashed
44:35
this Olympics. It's really kind of like
44:36
cementing him as a first round pick in fantasy next year.
44:40
I would love to get him again next year.
44:42
But I think I think you just have to follow the right spot.
44:44
But yeah, I'm pretty hyped about celebrity rest of the season.
44:47
And then for me, honestly, it's a lot of a lot of guys who got
44:49
arrested and got to get healthy over the course of the Olympics.
44:52
I think that's actually really, really big starts a huge one the
44:56
the coach that he's gonna be taking face offs again coming
44:58
out of the break, which essentially is saying he's
45:00
finally healthy. Um, a random one again, this
45:03
could be just wishful thinking because he doesn't have the
45:05
deployment or anything, but Monahan was dealing with injury
45:07
all season and I think that this break could have helped him get
45:12
healthy. And last year he was over a
45:13
point per game. This year he's at like point
45:15
like under .5 points per game. So the fact that he's not power
45:18
play one or line one makes it so that there's less chance of a
45:20
bounce back. But if he's finally healthy,
45:23
that could be a reason why why he was doing so poorly.
45:26
So if there's guys like that who were like playing through injury
45:29
and finally had a chance to get healthy, then I think there's a
45:32
there's chances for some people to to have a nice bounce backs.
45:36
And like all Russian players. Yeah, yeah.
45:40
Like kind of like as a blanket statement, like I, I, I actually
45:43
think Washington is gonna be really strong rest of the season
45:45
just cause they've got Ovechkin kind of and sort of helm over
45:48
there. Yeah.
45:49
Yeah. Actually, and brothers that
45:53
produce, Yeah, that's. It so where's produce from?
45:56
Is he Russian? I don't know somewhere.
45:58
Tall Alexis sounds produce what? What I met this I meant to say
46:05
Alexis sounds Russian that I caught myself like literally
46:08
either finished saying his last name.
46:09
He sounds produce, yeah. That was brilliant.
46:15
He's from Belarus, but. Almost Russian.
46:19
It's. Yeah, almost.
46:21
Alright, Blister Boy on Discord asked what's your view on Radish
46:25
in a keepers league? Would you keep him over
46:28
Romanoski or Seth Jones? I love this question because I
46:30
think we've gotten to a point this season where we just kind
46:32
of have to accept that Radish is the real deal for this year.
46:35
But this question is like, is Radish the real deal?
46:37
Like moving forward, we don't know if he's gonna be on Tampa
46:40
next year, right? Like he's going to be a free
46:42
agent because he's probably gonna get paid a decent amount.
46:45
I mean, after a season like this, he can ask for a lot.
46:47
Um, what team is gonna be willing to pay him?
46:49
Was he, is he gonna be power play one wherever he goes?
46:51
I think there's so many question marks with him that I don't
46:54
think I wouldn't lean either way too extreme.
46:57
First of all, I think there's no way he's ever going to replicate
46:59
what he's doing this year. Not to be that like he can be,
47:02
you know, good. But this is just unbelievable.
47:04
But I also don't think he's gonna fade back to obscurity.
47:06
Probably like I think if wherever he goes, they're gonna
47:09
have to pay him. And if someone's willing to pay
47:10
him, they probably given the deployment.
47:12
Random thought just popped in my head.
47:14
Maybe San Jose, they need a power play one quarterback.
47:16
Like if he if he goes there and is playing power play one with
47:19
like solid Rini, then maybe he could be close to what he did.
47:22
No now OK, this is actually like insane what he's doing this
47:26
year. So I would I don't think I would
47:29
keep him over OC or Jones. I don't know what you guys think
47:31
but. I wouldn't I've answered this
47:33
question is too few times in the discord and to me it's just like
47:36
if I have radish right now. I know you guys are listening to
47:39
this probably after trade deadlines in most leagues, but
47:41
I'm trying to keep release. I'm trying to ship them out with
47:44
the keeper value attached to him being like, hey, look how good
47:47
of a keeper you can have next season and get really good value
47:50
back. Because first of all, I think
47:51
he's going to get a bag. Like I think this is his golden
47:54
year. Darren Radish never assumed he
47:56
would get even closer to production he was doing this
47:58
season. And now it's time for him to
47:59
cash in. Like I think for his family and
48:00
everything, like for his, you know, longevity, financial
48:03
situation, like he's going to get a bag.
48:05
And I don't think Tampa's gonna be the team that gives him the
48:07
bag. So I think inherently he's going
48:09
to a different situation that's going to be worse.
48:11
He'll never be able to replicate what he's doing right now and he
48:14
might be fantasy irrelevant next year.
48:16
Like that's in the range of outcomes that are solids
48:19
percent, solid percentage. I'm not saying I'm super hyped
48:21
on Yoshi next season, but I think Seth Jones could be a good
48:24
keeper in that situation and to me, I'm just trying to
48:26
capitalize on selling him right now before we know what the next
48:30
situation is. If he does stay in Tampa though,
48:32
he decided he signs an extension there, then I'll actually have
48:35
to seriously consider being like, you probably have
48:38
tremendous keeper value with Reddish.
48:40
If it's like a draft cost to draft around or whatever.
48:43
If it's just like straight up no, no draft cost or just
48:46
keeping guys I think it'll be a tough question, but if he stays
48:51
on table is the only way I would actually consider him a keeper.
48:54
I am taking the other side of the coin.
48:56
I'm definitely actually going to keep radish.
48:59
Yoshi has been a tremendous fantasy player and I just think
49:03
that next year it's like really up in the air as to what's going
49:06
to happen with him injury wise and everything.
49:09
It's tough. So I really like that's too
49:13
ambiguous. And Seth Jones, although he's an
49:14
actual great NHL player and of course you're, you know, you're
49:17
happy rostering Jones. Like Seth Jones I don't think
49:23
has ever scored as many points in the season then Darren
49:26
Raddysh will score this year. So to me it's like, it's
49:31
honestly kind of like a clear answer.
49:33
I know he's got more name value and everything, but I'm actually
49:36
definitely keeping Radish here, even though I understand you
49:40
could go to another team and still not be great.
49:42
Like last year Seth Jones versus last year Darren Radish.
49:45
Yes, you know, Jones kind of played.
49:48
You could go to a team should be probably 1 quarterback there who
49:52
like rather sure you could get signed somewhere not even be
49:55
powerful one quarterback. No, 100% like, but I just think
49:58
like I'm not in Jones and Yoshi just may not.
50:01
Play, Yeah, But would you rather would you rather Seth Jones or
50:05
power play to radish on Washington?
50:08
I feel like if he gets the bag, it means that he's gonna.
50:11
Get the power. He's not gonna get the bag like
50:13
$8 million a year, but like he might get like, I don't know,
50:17
four or five like enough. Enough to be like a solid like
50:21
second pairing defensemen or like the second guy on the first
50:24
pair. But you know, Tampa might just
50:28
think that he fits their system and that's why they're able to
50:30
leverage his talents and he's not going anywhere else.
50:32
At the same time, with Barkov there, Jones may just not play
50:37
Power Play 1. They could they always have a.
50:39
Deal though, yeah, I think Bennett where?
50:42
They bumped their brown five in the past.
50:45
Yeah, but it didn't last. Anyway, to me anyways, I think
50:49
that the ceiling with radish here just for the nature of
50:51
fantasy. Either you win or you don't.
50:53
Like I think radish can help you win more.
50:56
So that's it. Like I get where you guys are
50:58
coming from, but I'm gonna go with radish as the top.
51:01
One Alright, well there you go. You got all the views.
51:03
Yeah, all the difference, poster boy.
51:07
Exactly. All right.
51:08
Last one, I think this is a bit of a leading question.
51:11
Ninja Bob Dog on Discord asked. How do you guys feel about three
51:14
on three overtime and knockout Olympic Games?
51:19
Through. American I mean, I, I think, I
51:23
think everyone kind of agrees that it it kind of sucks.
51:26
It's kind of just a coin flip, right?
51:28
And it should have been five on five.
51:30
Like I don't even know why they bothered saying go to 20 minute
51:32
period of three on three. It was never gonna last more
51:34
than 3 minutes, you know, realistically like.
51:37
Yeah, I actually don't mind it in the preliminary rounds, but
51:40
do the preliminary rounds are the season and then the medal
51:45
rounds are the playoffs and just make that 515 or at least four
51:49
on four with the shootout. That could be kind of spicy too,
51:53
but three on three is not. Good.
51:54
I honestly don't know what to think.
51:55
It was the thought process was there like who was making this
51:57
decision? Like did they actually think?
51:59
I feel like the Olympics is is country versus country on an
52:02
international level. I feel like it has to have the
52:04
utmost competitive integrity. And I think three on three is
52:08
like the opposite of that. Like not saying it's not
52:10
competitive at all, but you're really adding the luck factor in
52:13
there. And if you look at the NHL, the
52:15
only reason why there's three on three is to satisfy the TV
52:19
corporations that can run the NHL things for so long because
52:23
they have programs after right like just.
52:25
To avoid shootout. Yeah, and the Stanley Cup is 20
52:28
minutes, five on five, and that's it.
52:30
Nothing else. Like that's how you decide which
52:32
team is better. I think we were robbed of like a
52:35
excellent finish. Maybe the result would have been
52:37
the same, but I still think it would have been better.
52:39
Now we just get to watch like one team go out and miss and the
52:41
other team get another break away or whatever.
52:43
And I don't know, not fun. I would have said the same thing
52:47
even if Canada won, by the way. I'm just putting that out there
52:49
like I'm, yeah, non biased. Yeah, no, it definitely,
52:54
definitely kind of a joke way to end it.
52:56
And yeah, regardless of who would have won, like it just
52:58
should not have been that. And then I agree with what
53:01
Jackie said. Like, you know, you can view the
53:02
prelims as like regular season. You can have three on three
53:05
there because no one's getting eliminated in the prelims,
53:08
right? So the stakes aren't as high.
53:10
And it is fun to watch, right. But like, in terms of like
53:13
actually deciding who's best, deciding medals, deciding like
53:15
big games like that, like gold medal at Olympics, like a lot of
53:19
players might value that like either equally or even higher
53:22
than like Stanley Cup, you know, like it's that important.
53:24
So. And you would never even imagine
53:26
dream of having a three on three overtime in any even the first
53:29
round of the Stanley Cup Final. So I have the, you know, the
53:32
playoffs. So like, yeah, yeah.
53:33
The equivalent is just. It's crazy.
53:35
You know what could have been fun?
53:36
Last thing that will wrap up. Imagine five on three on three
53:40
for like 5 or 10 minutes. But not golden goal just like.
53:44
That would be. Crazy.
53:45
That's a way like if you actually want to run three on
53:47
three, like imagine like US score like Canada has like 5
53:50
more minutes to try and like get an equalizer or whatever.
53:52
Yeah, I think that could be fun. That would be cool actually.
53:55
But the golden goal, three on three is just, it just feels
53:58
like 2 high stakes for no reason, yeah.
54:00
Yeah. Yeah, that would have been a lot
54:03
better, right? But yeah, I just.
54:05
Take his idea from a few weeks ago.
54:06
Yeah, we're excited, 505. Or is that idea that all would
54:12
have been better? Too started dropping players and
54:15
down to 1 view one just goalie versus goalie.
54:20
It's like the Super Smash Bros a, you know, exactly fuck you
54:25
overtime. That would be sick.
54:28
Wait, who's that Kirby? Kirby has the fuck, you know,
54:33
not Doc, I'm talking. I was gonna say the little
54:38
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