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Victoria Coates | Former Deputy National Security Advisor | 05-21-26 · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 4: Cuban population of Miami, and certainly beyond Miami. People that
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  Speaker 4: came there that were decimated as families were ruined to
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  Speaker 4: appreciate what the Attorney General just did today. And we're
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  Speaker 4: just doing now. It's just watching it.
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  Speaker 3: So we have few bown on mine.
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  Speaker 2: Very important.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of problem for a lot of years,
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  Speaker 4: and this was a big I think it was a
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  Speaker 4: very big moment for people that not only Cuban Americans,
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  Speaker 4: but people that came from Cuba that want to go
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  Speaker 4: back to Cuba, people that want to see their family
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  Speaker 4: in Cuba. I think there's a very big day, very
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  Speaker 4: important day. They supported me to the nth degree. They
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  Speaker 4: supported me at levels that nobody's ever seen before, and
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  Speaker 4: so I think it's a very important.
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  Speaker 3: Movement on the table here.
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  Speaker 4: It's the president. Should we expect any escalation here or
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  Speaker 4: should they expect them?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: U no, no you won't.
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  Speaker 4: There won't be escalation. I don't think the needs of it. Look,
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  Speaker 4: the place is falling apart.
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  Speaker 3: It's a mess, and.
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  Speaker 4: They sort of lost control.
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  Speaker 3: They've really lost control of Cuban. I worked with all
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  Speaker 3: Cubans down in Miami and they were angry with what
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  Speaker 3: happened there with Castro. So it's interesting to hear that
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  Speaker 3: the people in Cuba are condemning this, But I got
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  Speaker 3: to think those are not the everyday citizens. Let's find
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  Speaker 3: out this lady's as good as it gets. Victoria Coats,
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  Speaker 3: the VP of the Heritage Foundation, what are your thoughts
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  Speaker 3: on how the Cuban people really feel with the indictment
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  Speaker 3: of Rold Castro.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Sid, great to be with you and thank you.
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  Speaker 2: A quick note. I think that you should announce your
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  Speaker 2: campaign for mayor at Jans.
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  Speaker 3: You do all honestly, you just are you kidding? You
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  Speaker 3: being serious?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm actually serious. I think if you're serious about
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  Speaker 2: doing it, and I think what we're seeing in the city,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm Philadelphia so you know this. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: a dog at the hunt. But except for the fact
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  Speaker 2: that I'm also an American and I went to New
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  Speaker 2: York to thrive and it's important to all of us.
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  Speaker 2: And I agree with you. He's not doing anything that's
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  Speaker 2: going to promote that. And if you're serious about it,
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  Speaker 2: I think that would be a great venue.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Oh and I should point out that's very sweet.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Victoria. That last block last year which I
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  Speaker 3: was a part of, and Mike Huckabee and Mark Levine
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  Speaker 3: and Ron Dermer and the z Olway guy. My friend you.
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  Speaker 3: I was about to say you, So I hope at
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  Speaker 3: least you're going to be there again this year. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: oh yeah, oh right, we'll be there. We'll be there
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  Speaker 3: in So you're going to You're going to speak on
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  Speaker 3: Tuesday night, right.
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  Speaker 2: I think? So that's what Richard. Now it's strolling.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations. You're great and you should be speaking. I mean
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  Speaker 3: I watch you on TV all the time and you
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  Speaker 3: do a tremendous job. Maria loves you. I love you.
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  Speaker 3: So let's get right to it again. The Cuba situation.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think it really is there?
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  Speaker 2: No, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, rank and
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  Speaker 2: file Cubans are so just celebratory about this. And I
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  Speaker 2: was listening to what Secretary Rubio was saying in his
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  Speaker 2: video yesterday. The Cuban people excel at everything. They're wonderful doctors,
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  Speaker 2: they're wonderful restauranteurs, they're wonderful entertainers, as you were just
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  Speaker 2: talking about. All across the world. They're prominent. And our
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  Speaker 2: Secretary of State is a Cuban. My old boss, Senator
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  Speaker 2: Cruz is Cuban. I mean, you can't say these aren't
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  Speaker 2: accomplished people. The only place they don't thrive is Cuba.
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  Speaker 2: And so figuring out how we get this island from
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  Speaker 2: being a perpetual security risk. And I did an event
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  Speaker 2: at the COUNTS Foreign Relations last night with my Biden
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  Speaker 2: era counterpart, John Feiner, and John's not a bad guy,
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  Speaker 2: but he was talking about Cuba and he kept saying,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a direct risk to us. Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 2: They've infiltrated our country. I mean, the very crimes that
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  Speaker 2: Raoul's been indicted for are because there's security services infiltrated
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  Speaker 2: a charity in the United States. I mean, the Cuban
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  Speaker 2: missile crisis was launched at US from Cuba, closest we
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  Speaker 2: ever came to nuclear arm again, So you can't stay,
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  Speaker 2: you know with a straight face that it's not a
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  Speaker 2: direct threat to the United States. And if the president
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  Speaker 2: changes that without you know, firing a shot, as it
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  Speaker 2: looks like he may be well on his way to
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  Speaker 2: doing that, is a huge legacy for him.
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  Speaker 3: That's the fight every time, though, every time saving with Iran.
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  Speaker 3: We don't want Iran venucul. We don't either. But there
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  Speaker 3: is no proof, right Tucker or any of these Democrat lawmakers,
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  Speaker 3: there's no proof of imminent danger. What does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: You know? So say you wait ten years, you know
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  Speaker 3: there was no proof that ain't know if Hitler was
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  Speaker 3: going to murder six million people six years before he
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  Speaker 3: did it. So he's supposed to sit there as the
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  Speaker 3: President of the United States and roll the dice because
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  Speaker 3: you believe there's no imminent danger. Same thing with Kilba.
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand it. If you've got an opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: take out what is clearly an adversary, if not an enemy,
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  Speaker 3: and you've got the wherewithal to do.
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  Speaker 2: It, you do it, oh absolutely, And you know the
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  Speaker 2: issue The other issue here with both the Uranians and
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  Speaker 2: the Cubbins is we've been doing the same thing over
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  Speaker 2: and over and over again. Rims with heat with them.
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  Speaker 2: Try to get them too the table, try to coax
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  Speaker 2: them into reforms and try to sweeten the pot with
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  Speaker 2: economic relief and maybe they'll become reasonable. No, they're not
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  Speaker 2: in those cases. I mean, sixty plus years for the Cubans,
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  Speaker 2: forty plus years for the Iranian regime. They they don't change.
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to change. The only way you're going
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  Speaker 2: to break that paradigm is to force a significant transition
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  Speaker 2: in both those countries.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and then when he does something with Forrest, they
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  Speaker 3: all the America First people that don't understand that America
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  Speaker 3: first is not only. The way you keep America first
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  Speaker 3: is when you make sure the powers out there that
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  Speaker 3: want to end that are no longer in power. That
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  Speaker 3: is America First. They don't seem to get that. So
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  Speaker 3: what he did with Maduro, for example, in Venezuela was awesome,
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  Speaker 3: not good awesome, although he seems to be intimating the
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  Speaker 3: president that we won't need that type of force like
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  Speaker 3: we did use in Venezuela in Cuba, what do you.
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  Speaker 2: Think, well, I think we've demonstrated the capability. So that's
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  Speaker 2: a situation where Castro now knows that there were indictments
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  Speaker 2: against Maduro. I remember when Bob Barr was writing those
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. So and this goes back away the
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  Speaker 2: president set this up. And so now we had Director
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  Speaker 2: Ratclus dispatched to Havana to I think, send that message
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  Speaker 2: that this was happening, that it is real. There are reports,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're true or not, that there's
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  Speaker 2: an actual recording of Raul Costros ordering the shootdown of
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  Speaker 2: assessments in the nineteen nineties. So there's pretty much proof
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  Speaker 2: positive that he was culpable, very directly, not just he
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  Speaker 2: happened to be the tops on the line of command,
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  Speaker 2: that he ordered it. And so I think that message
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  Speaker 2: has been sent. You now know that we can do this.
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  Speaker 2: We can do it as farfield as Venezuela, so we
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  Speaker 2: sure as that can do it in Cuba, and how
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  Speaker 2: about how about we get down to brass tax here.
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully that threat to his person is going to
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  Speaker 2: get his attention. You know, as distasteful as it is,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure we're preparing off ramps for the top echelon
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  Speaker 2: of the regime, so they can go live in Soshi
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  Speaker 2: with Kashira al Asad or whatever it is going to be,
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  Speaker 2: which I mean it's gross. I would like to say,
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  Speaker 2: even stand trial for their crime. And at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: I don't mind them spending all eternity with Putin. That's
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  Speaker 2: not the worst thing ever happened.
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  Speaker 3: So if they but that's if they do that. What
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to see is when I go visit
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  Speaker 3: my mother in Aventura and I'm having a lock's eggs
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  Speaker 3: and onions at mose bagel shop, one of these Cubans
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  Speaker 3: who committed these horrible crimes sitting there. I don't mind
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  Speaker 3: it they sent them to basically, like you said, the Gulag.
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  Speaker 3: But when these guys start going to nice places and
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  Speaker 3: really live out the rest of their lives in American luxury,
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  Speaker 3: that's where I get upset.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I don't think there would be any possibility
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  Speaker 2: of that. I mean, they're all wore criminals, so very
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  Speaker 2: hard for them to set foot on us soil. So
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with more with you on that.
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  Speaker 3: One, right, So let's get to the Iran situation. I
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  Speaker 3: spoke to Brian Kilmeade earlier this morning, and again I'm
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  Speaker 3: all for what the president did. He had the courage
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  Speaker 3: to do what every president promised it. That's what people
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  Speaker 3: don't understand. They all promised it, nobody said a word.
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  Speaker 3: He actually did it. And I don't care if Iran
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  Speaker 3: was going to have a nuclear weapon in a month
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  Speaker 3: or a year. They had to be stopped. And that's
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  Speaker 3: the least of it. That's the least of it. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you had the issue with the oil, the issue with
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  Speaker 3: the Jews, all these terror proxy groups, all the Americans,
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  Speaker 3: Americans forget about Jews, Americans they've killed over the years.
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  Speaker 3: There's like a million reasons why what President Trump did
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  Speaker 3: made all the sense in the world. But even his
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  Speaker 3: staunches supporters are saying, what are we doing? Like I
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  Speaker 3: hear people at the Pentagon. I've gotten these messages I have.
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  Speaker 3: They said to me, sid was stuck. The truth is
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  Speaker 3: was stuck. We don't really have a great exit plan.
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  Speaker 3: There's three things at stake here, the regime moving forward,
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  Speaker 3: the straight up her moves. You're talking about oil and
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  Speaker 3: gas prices and a US economy, and of course the nukes.
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  Speaker 3: And we're not exactly sure how to fix all that.
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  Speaker 3: We can't do two of those in one day. That
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  Speaker 3: I've been told one hundred percent, we cannot do two
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  Speaker 3: of those in one day. So now the president's disapproval rating,
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  Speaker 3: which breaks my heart, is it's seventy one percent when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to the economy. You never thought you'd hear
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  Speaker 3: those numbers with President Trump. So when he says, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm in no hurry, you take him out his word
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  Speaker 3: seventy one percent. Someone says to me, maybe he should
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  Speaker 3: be in a bit of a hurry.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I did take him at his word, because the
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  Speaker 2: difference between the first term and the second term is
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  Speaker 2: he knows that this is a finite period of time
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  Speaker 2: he has, and he has a certain number of achievements
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  Speaker 2: he wants to make, and of course he wants to
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  Speaker 2: keep the House in the mid terms. But at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, if he has this opportunity to really make
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  Speaker 2: a decisive change in orn remove that danger of a
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  Speaker 2: nuclear weapon, I think he's going to do it. And
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  Speaker 2: in this case, the other point I would add to
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  Speaker 2: what you were saying is we have tried everything with them.
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  Speaker 2: We have tried engagement, we have tried economic punishment, have
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  Speaker 2: tried the JCPOA. I disagreed with it then, I disagree
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  Speaker 2: with it now, but I understand why they tried it.
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  Speaker 2: It all failed. All of it failed. I mean another
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  Speaker 2: year of attempted diplomacy, a limited strike in midnight hammer,
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  Speaker 2: none of it worked. And so what the President is
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  Speaker 2: doing now I think is fully necessary. And yes, I
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  Speaker 2: think we do face challenges, but I think we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get the straight of Hormu's organized, and the other
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  Speaker 2: piece of good news there is in less than a
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  Speaker 2: year the UAE is going to have their big new pipeline,
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  Speaker 2: certain navigating the straight up and running to carry that
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  Speaker 2: five million barrels they're going to go up to. Now
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  Speaker 2: they're out of OPEC. The Saudis are expanding petroline. We're
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  Speaker 2: talking to them about doing a natural gas pipeline that
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  Speaker 2: would connect the Gulf with the Red Sea. At that point,
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  Speaker 2: it's an asset of diminishing returns through the Iranians. They're
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  Speaker 2: doing this now, they're not going to be able to
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  Speaker 2: do it again. So yes, challenges remain right now. But
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  Speaker 2: there was also polling this morning saying that most Americans
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  Speaker 2: think we are winning in Iran, which we are, and
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  Speaker 2: I take a little bit more time, but I'm quite
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  Speaker 2: confident that we're going to get there.
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  Speaker 3: So two minutes ago, I'd be remiss if I didn't
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  Speaker 3: ask you about the China tip. I've been talking about
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  Speaker 3: it obviously for a week, and Gordon Chang was on
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  Speaker 3: a host of others, looks like from a business standpoint,
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  Speaker 3: and went very well. Companies like Navidio already making big
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  Speaker 3: deals with Chinese companies, and we had all those CEOs there.
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  Speaker 3: I know President Chi said some things about Iran. He
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  Speaker 3: will do none of that to see, you know, none
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  Speaker 3: of it because he's lying. He's he is literally playing
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  Speaker 3: both sides of the fence. He's nice to President Trump
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  Speaker 3: and he's still delivering arms with the Casby and c
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  Speaker 3: to the Iranian So I don't take anything he says
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  Speaker 3: about the war. I don't take any of that seriously.
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  Speaker 3: But from a business standpoint and just a hey, we
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  Speaker 3: get along pretty good. I think it was a good trip.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: No, I agree it's necessary. We just finished a big
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  Speaker 2: survey at Heritage called tidal Wave, which looks at a
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  Speaker 2: conflict between the United States and China. It's Ai driven,
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  Speaker 2: it's really interesting. Recommend it to your listeners AT's heritage
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  Speaker 2: dot org. But the overriding conclusion from all these thousands
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  Speaker 2: of scenarios we ran through the AI BOT is that
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  Speaker 2: if we have a conflict with China on the first day,
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  Speaker 2: the global GDP takes a ten percent hit. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: matter how long the war goes on, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: who wins. That is global recession, if not depression day one,
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  Speaker 2: and that may be at some point where we get
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  Speaker 2: with China. But the boy would I like to avoid that,
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  Speaker 2: because if we can not get into a conflict with
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  Speaker 2: China for the next day ten years, they then run
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  Speaker 2: into a demographic wall they know is coming and there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing they can do about it. It turns out it's
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  Speaker 2: a bad thing to selectively abort half your population. Who
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  Speaker 2: knew but what they're shockingly this turned out poorly. You
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  Speaker 2: had boarded all the women and look what you got.
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  Speaker 2: And so that disaster is coming for them. And if
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  Speaker 2: we can manage this decade without taking that unnecessary hit
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  Speaker 2: and get to a point where we have massive leverage
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  Speaker 2: and control, and that's where, like the President's one point
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  Speaker 2: five trillion dollars defense budget is so important, we are
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  Speaker 2: showing them that we're serious that they should not try
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  Speaker 2: to provoke a conflict. Then a trip like this can
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  Speaker 2: really do a lot of good in creating channels of
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  Speaker 2: communication and preventing conflict. So along those lines, I'm fine
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  Speaker 2: with it. You know, we very strongly support export controls
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  Speaker 2: on our most sophisticated chips. I don't mind selling them
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  Speaker 2: the lesser chips. I don't mind selling them oil. I
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  Speaker 2: don't mind their buying swabeans. That's all good and well,
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  Speaker 2: but we just have to have our eyes wide open.
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  Speaker 3: What an amazing segment just now, Victoria. Just great. I
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  Speaker 3: can't wait to see you in Israel. We'll talk before
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  Speaker 3: obviously you're on the show almost every week now. But excellent,
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  Speaker 3: excellent job today. Thank you so much. That was great.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you said, take care and I may take your advice.
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  Speaker 3: I may announce I'm mornying for Mayo and Jerusalem. How
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  Speaker 3: about that. Let's thank you Victoria Coats right there, the
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