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Kyle Kirkland, Pres. of CA Gaming Association | Refugee Welcome Bags · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
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  Speaker 1: AM six forty Yeah, by am six forty Bill Handle.
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  Speaker 2: Here.
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  Speaker 1: It is a Thursday morning, June twenty five, big, big day.
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court just handed out a couple of immigration cases
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  Speaker 1: and siding with President Trump. And I'll explain that probably
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow what all of this means. And then a gun
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  Speaker 1: case in which the course came down in favor of
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  Speaker 1: the Second Amendment gun advocates, so explain that one too.
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  Speaker 3: This.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the president is doing really well in terms
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  Speaker 1: of what he wants. He has gotten Congress to basically
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  Speaker 1: follow whatever he wants. He demands and gets absolute fealty
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  Speaker 1: from Republicans, and Republicans control the Senate in the House,
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  Speaker 1: so he's getting what he wants and also the courts,
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  Speaker 1: not that he's getting what he wants by pressure, but
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  Speaker 1: by philosophy. He's getting what he wants based on the
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  Speaker 1: fact that he was able to choose three Supreme Court justices.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I want to move into something that's happening
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  Speaker 1: in California, and it has happened for years, and that
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  Speaker 1: is fight, a fight between or the fight between the
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  Speaker 1: Indian tribes and the gaming Association, cities that have gaming, commerce, etc.
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  Speaker 1: That have gambling, of which some of them literally half
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  Speaker 1: of their income comes from these casinos, these card rooms. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Kirkland, president of the California Gaming Association, is in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of this and there's a huge fight going
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  Speaker 1: on right now with Rob Bonta, the California AG, the
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  Speaker 1: Gaming Association, as well as the tribes. First of all, Kyle,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, and welcome to KFI.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me on the program this morning.
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  Speaker 1: My pleasure. All right, So set up what's happening, Give
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  Speaker 1: me the big picture so people don't understand and the
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  Speaker 1: basics of this, and then what you are doing or
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  Speaker 1: what the Gaming Association is doing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well the big picture is, as you pointed out,
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  Speaker 2: it's the cargo industry is a multi billion dollar industry
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  Speaker 2: in California with card rooms, you know, in all regions
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  Speaker 2: of the state and in a lot of cases, as
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  Speaker 2: it is in Southern California and Los Angeles County, the
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  Speaker 2: carter room.
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  Speaker 3: In a local jurisdiction like the City.
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  Speaker 2: Of Commerce, Bell Gardens, Hawaiian Gardens, it really drives the
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  Speaker 2: local economy.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a substantial.
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  Speaker 2: Portion of the city's income. And on the other side
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  Speaker 2: of this, so it's a multi billion dollar industry that's you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, decades old. On the other side of this the California.
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  Speaker 2: Gaming tribes who feel like they're entitled to all gaming
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  Speaker 2: in California. So that's been an ongoing challenge back and
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  Speaker 2: forth for the Gaming Association. We tend to do better
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  Speaker 2: in court than we do in Sacramento because the tribes
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  Speaker 2: are incredibly influential up there with their contributions. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: what we we're seeing now is you know, victors in
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  Speaker 2: the court, and in particular one against Rob Bonta last
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  Speaker 2: month that we hope it's upheld this month. So it's
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  Speaker 2: it's a challenging time for the cargos. It's a nerve
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  Speaker 2: wracking time for some of the cities that are dependent
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  Speaker 2: on cargoves. But so far, so good in court.
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  Speaker 1: Now let me ask you the try. You mentioned that
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  Speaker 1: the tribes want to stop gaming. Do they want to
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  Speaker 1: just remove these card rooms and make them illegal, saying goodbye?
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  Speaker 1: The only gaming allowed in California is us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, effectively, I mean we've seen that both with the
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  Speaker 2: way they push back against the racetracks, against sports waging
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  Speaker 2: fantasy sports. Certainly the predictive markets the Califlifornia gaming tribes.
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  Speaker 2: And not all tribes are gaming tribes, and not all
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  Speaker 2: tribes are averse to other gaming interests. But there are
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  Speaker 2: some very wealthy tribes that would just as soon see
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  Speaker 2: all gaming come through the California tribes. They feel like
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  Speaker 2: that is their sovereign right.
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  Speaker 1: And what are they doing about it? I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: measures are they taking?
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  Speaker 2: So they spend an awful lot of money up in Sacramento,
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  Speaker 2: right and trying to influence the legislatures and get legislation
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  Speaker 2: their way. And as well, they've spent a lot of
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  Speaker 2: money with folks like Rob Bonta, our Attorney General, by
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  Speaker 2: making campaign contributions to him, and then you know, oddly enough,
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  Speaker 2: he tries to pursue their interests by leaning in on
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  Speaker 2: us and other gaming interests with regulations or crackdowns or
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  Speaker 2: what have you. And for example, earlier this year, the
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  Speaker 2: AG's office came out with regulations that said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you can't play blackjack anymore in California card rooms, and
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  Speaker 2: we're going to change the rules on your other popular
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  Speaker 2: table games. Well, that's seventy percent of what we do
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  Speaker 2: and when we challenge that, you know, the cities that
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  Speaker 2: we serve and unions we serve, we're in an uproar
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  Speaker 2: about that. We all, you know, went back to the
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  Speaker 2: Attorney General's office and said, you know, what's your authority
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  Speaker 2: for this, and what's the reasoning behind it. There's no
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  Speaker 2: new harm, there's no new law that's come down, there
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  Speaker 2: was no new court ruling, and we got no response
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  Speaker 2: from the Attorney General's office. So this played out. It
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  Speaker 2: got put in place April first. The cargo industry immediately
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  Speaker 2: went into court to get a preliminary injunction and we
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  Speaker 2: were successful on that and pushing back. In fact, the
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  Speaker 2: court said that the Attorney General had overreached his authority,
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  Speaker 2: basically saying he just didn't even have the right to
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  Speaker 2: put these regulations in place. And that's what we're seeing
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  Speaker 2: in our industry both, you know, the tribes really leaning
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  Speaker 2: in politically on us to the detriment not only of
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  Speaker 2: a competitor but the underlying cities that we serve.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Kyle Kirkland, as president of the California Gaming Association, Kyle,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of questions. You mentioned how much money the
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  Speaker 1: tribes are spending in terms of donations and their position
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  Speaker 1: compared to yours.
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  Speaker 2: There.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you're spending money. You guys are spending real
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  Speaker 1: money for your side. So give me the comparison.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, you know, the tribes that will
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  Speaker 2: spend us ten to one in Sacramento. We just don't
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  Speaker 2: have the same kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Resources that you know, the.
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  Speaker 2: Guys with a slot machines ten twelve billion of revenue
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  Speaker 2: and no.
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  Speaker 3: Tax and not having to pay taxes what they can.
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  Speaker 2: Get away with. But we spend about the same money
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  Speaker 2: in court. I want to say, just in this fight
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  Speaker 2: with in the last two years, we've probably spent six
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  Speaker 2: or seven million dollars in court, okay, pushing back against
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  Speaker 2: the tribes. It's a big number.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it is big money. So let me ask
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  Speaker 1: when you talk about the law, and you said that
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  Speaker 1: the Attorney General has filed the lawsuit or has tried
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  Speaker 1: to limit the amount of gaming that goes on in
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  Speaker 1: the cities, what are the cities allowed to have have
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  Speaker 1: under the law. First of all, I'm assuming that's been
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  Speaker 1: delineated as to what they can or cannot. And then
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  Speaker 1: the agreement with the tribes and California, because there was
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  Speaker 1: the packs that have occurred, the packs that were that
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  Speaker 1: were negotiated, right.
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  Speaker 2: So, California cargoms exist because we have local ordinances in
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  Speaker 2: the state law that allows for card rooms, which is
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  Speaker 2: dinner table games. So you offer table games in our institute,
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  Speaker 2: in our licensed gaming establishment, so you come in, you
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  Speaker 2: can play blackjack, poke or other popular cable games that
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  Speaker 2: you would see at other commercial casinos. The tribes, dating
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  Speaker 2: back two decades ago, had Prop one A that allowed
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  Speaker 2: for them to have compacts with the state of California
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  Speaker 2: which allowed them to operate slot machines. So when you
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  Speaker 2: go to a tribal casino, you walk in there you've
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  Speaker 2: got you know, slot machines everywhere and a few table games.
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  Speaker 2: When you walk into a card room there are no
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  Speaker 2: slot machines, but all table games. And there are about
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  Speaker 2: eighty licensed cargos around state, which sixty are operating. The
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  Speaker 2: biggest are in La County. Probably two thirds of all
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  Speaker 2: the active tables are in.
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  Speaker 3: Southern California in La County.
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  Speaker 2: And as you point out, they generate a tremendous amount
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  Speaker 2: of revenue for those for the local jurisdictions in which
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  Speaker 2: they operate. But it's you know, we operate under both
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  Speaker 2: state law and local law, and which just happened to
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  Speaker 2: have them in places like commerce, doll gardens, guardena Compton
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  Speaker 2: in the Wood, those types.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So Kyle, what is the issue that the tribes
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  Speaker 1: do not want you to have a slot machines? You're
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  Speaker 1: wanting slot machines, They want to limit what you go ahead?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, certainly we take slot machines if we could
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  Speaker 2: have them, but that's not on the table. The problem
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  Speaker 2: is that that the tribes want all gaming. They've said
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  Speaker 2: flat out they think all gaming needs to come through
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  Speaker 2: the tribes, and whether it's the lottery or sports wagering
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  Speaker 2: or whatever, they expect to be the gatekeepers on that.
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  Speaker 2: And what aggravates them is even though we predate them
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  Speaker 2: in terms of our operation, meaning the card rooms, right,
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  Speaker 2: and that our table games don't really encroach on theirs,
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  Speaker 2: they view us as a threat to them simply because
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  Speaker 2: we operate gaming and we're competitive. So when you can
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  Speaker 2: get that when you come in, right, you come into
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  Speaker 2: a car. They want to eliminate competition.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask this, Okay, are you they
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  Speaker 1: want you out of business? Isn't the law? Doesn't the
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  Speaker 1: law allow you to be in business, and could the
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  Speaker 1: legislature change that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know the legislature could I guess
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  Speaker 2: they could change it, not just allowed to be in business,
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  Speaker 2: but that'd be a pre radical departure. And that's why
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  Speaker 2: the regulations that that Attorney General Bonta tried to put
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  Speaker 2: in place earlier this year were so dramatic for us.
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  Speaker 2: It was one hundred and eighty degree pivot from how
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  Speaker 2: prior Attorney generals had interpreted the law. And you know
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  Speaker 2: the games that we're talking about at Cargos, we've been
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  Speaker 2: in operation for des I own a car room in Fresno.
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  Speaker 2: I've been operational since nineteen ninety five. The Commerce and
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  Speaker 2: Commerce has been operational since nineteen eighty three or eighty four.
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  Speaker 2: So we're talking about decades of legal, licensed, regulated operation
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  Speaker 2: where the Attorney General just made one hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 2: tore pivot. And that's that's why the court basically threw
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  Speaker 2: it out and said, you really don't have the authority
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  Speaker 2: to do this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm confused as to here you are.
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  Speaker 1: You're allowed to buy law court cases and the Attorney
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  Speaker 1: General is now interpreting the laws that exists that can
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  Speaker 1: make what you do illegal or non existent.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, wow, that's just as confusing for us as
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  Speaker 2: it is for you and certainly for the cities in
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  Speaker 2: which we operate. And that's why you know, we we
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  Speaker 2: not only pushed back and went into court, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the cities came with us and said, hey, whoa wait
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  Speaker 2: a minute, you know, what's what's the authority here?
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  Speaker 3: What's the justification?
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  Speaker 2: And frankly, Attorney General didn't have a good answer, so
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  Speaker 2: the judge sided with us on the preliminary injunction. We've
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  Speaker 2: got a final hearing on that next Tuesday to see
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  Speaker 2: where it stands. But we're optimistic that the law hasn't
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  Speaker 2: changed between May fifteenth and now, and our position hasn't changed.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, Kyle, thank you greatly appreciated with trying
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  Speaker 1: to explain what's or explaining what's going on, because there
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of confusion. Is a lot of confusion.
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  Speaker 1: President of the California Gaming Association, Kyle Kirkland, Kyle, thanks
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  Speaker 1: for being with.
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  Speaker 2: Us, all right, Thanks for having me on the program.
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  Speaker 1: You got it, my pleasure, all right. The other thing
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  Speaker 1: is the president has just won a couple of big
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  Speaker 1: cases on immigration and his authority to deal with immigration.
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  Speaker 1: And this is an immigration story that I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: even could happen. The White House is planning to give
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  Speaker 1: South African refugees. There's a big story right there, welcome
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  Speaker 1: bags party favors. Now, this is a little controversial when
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  Speaker 1: the President gave asylum to a group of South African refugees,
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  Speaker 1: white South African refugees based on the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: were persecuted in South Africa for being white. And the
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  Speaker 1: government has the ability to determine whether someone is being
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  Speaker 1: persecuted or not, and not for financial reasons. That's not
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  Speaker 1: what asylum is granted or visa granted, but certainly if
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  Speaker 1: a group of people or individuals and fear for his
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  Speaker 1: or her life family just being persecuted. Usually it's religious persecution.
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  Speaker 1: But in this case, the argument is that these people
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  Speaker 1: are being persecuted for being white. Okay, fair enough. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we know where the President sits when it comes to immigration,
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  Speaker 1: so that's no surprise. And in the coming weeks, the
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  Speaker 1: US is planning to provide a welcome gift to South
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  Speaker 1: Africans that are entering the United States as refugees. So
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  Speaker 1: in this bag of party favors. They're going to get
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  Speaker 1: an Android tablet, an American flag, copies of the Constitution,
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  Speaker 1: Declaration of Independence, which happens whenever an American citizen, and know,
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  Speaker 1: someone becomes an American citizen, they're in the American flags
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  Speaker 1: flown around and copies of the Constitution are handed out.
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  Speaker 1: And I do remember that they are also these refugees
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  Speaker 1: going to receive a packet of literature that provides and
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  Speaker 1: this one is a little bit controversial, a Trump approved
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  Speaker 1: view of American and South African history that criticizes racial
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  Speaker 1: equality and civil rights laws just like he does here,
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  Speaker 1: arguing that they are discriminatory and promotes the claims of
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  Speaker 1: discrimination against white people. Is discrimination against white people? Of
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  Speaker 1: course there are, of course there is, and I'll get
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  Speaker 1: into that because it's not that simple. I mean one
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  Speaker 1: of the things of politicians, and Trump isn't alone on
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  Speaker 1: this one, is you have to do things in sound bites.
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  Speaker 1: You can't go through and actually explain what is going
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  Speaker 1: on because usually they're being discriminated because they're white. Simple statement,
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  Speaker 1: black and white, so to speak. But there are levels
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  Speaker 1: of understanding that, and I will spend a moment or
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  Speaker 1: two and the welcome bags also include a report commissioned
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  Speaker 1: by the president during his first term that downplays the
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  Speaker 1: role of slavery in the country's founding South Africa, and
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  Speaker 1: a children's book that accuses South Africa's government of favoring
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  Speaker 1: the black population. And this would be the latest step
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  Speaker 1: in the administration to welcome the white minority in South
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  Speaker 1: Africa and the president's it will maintains a ban on
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  Speaker 1: refugees fleeing from war in other places and persecution in
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  Speaker 1: other places in the world. And the argument is, come on,
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  Speaker 1: because they're white, you're going to give them a favorite position.
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  Speaker 1: Are you really going to argue that white people have
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  Speaker 1: been discriminated against in South Africa. Yeah, there's some truth
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  Speaker 1: to that. There is some truth to that. My best friend,
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  Speaker 1: Saville and my partner is South African and we have
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  Speaker 1: spent many times talking about what's going on in South Africa.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to a group of South Africans,
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  Speaker 1: white South Africans that have entered the United States as refugees.
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  Speaker 1: The government has determined that they were being persecuted in
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  Speaker 1: South Africa because they're white, and therefore asylum will be granted.
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  Speaker 1: And there is a well a bag, a welcome gift bag,
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  Speaker 1: a party favor bag for these folks that are coming in,
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  Speaker 1: and android tablet, American flag, copies of the Constitution, Declaration
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  Speaker 1: of Independence, package of literature that provides a Trump apew
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  Speaker 1: approved view of American and South African history. Now that's
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  Speaker 1: where it gets interesting, because the President has just changed
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  Speaker 1: the way the government views the history of the United
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  Speaker 1: States in terms of slavery, in terms of discrimination, in
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  Speaker 1: terms of gay rights, he in term of LBGTQ rights,
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  Speaker 1: women's rights. I mean, it's just done a complete reversal.
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  Speaker 1: So with this, it's a little bit complicated because the
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  Speaker 1: President the administration has said straight out South African whites
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  Speaker 1: are being discriminated against because they're white. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: a yes or a no, because in many cases he
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  Speaker 1: is right, there is discrimination. But it's a lot more
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  Speaker 1: complicated than that because well, when Nelson Mandela was brought
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  Speaker 1: in as president, the first black government in South Africa.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, the crazy apartheid business actually happened in
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  Speaker 1: the forties before that. It wasn't crazy like it was
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  Speaker 1: just before Nelson Mandela got into power. There was tremendous
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  Speaker 1: discrimination against black people. It was complete so Mandela comes
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  Speaker 1: in and it shifts over. Now, one of the things
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  Speaker 1: about Mandela and Desmond Tutu, they could have gone and
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  Speaker 1: gone after white people like crazy, and they didn't. Nelson
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  Speaker 1: Mandela very Martin Luther King like MOHAMMEDA Gandhi like and
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  Speaker 1: tried for reconciliation and did some extraordinary things. But the
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  Speaker 1: bottom line is their discrimination. Of course there is in
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  Speaker 1: terms of how, for example, Nelson Mandela was viewed. My
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  Speaker 1: partner and best friend, Savil grew up as South Africa.
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  Speaker 1: He is South Africa, and I asked him, how did
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  Speaker 1: the government view Nelson Mandela, for example, and he said,
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  Speaker 1: we were taught in school by the time we were
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  Speaker 1: in grade school that Nelson Mandela was an out and
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  Speaker 1: now terrorist, straight out. He bombed buildings, he went to
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  Speaker 1: jail legitimately for twenty something years. He is equivalent to
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  Speaker 1: basically a guy who comes in whin an explosive vest
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  Speaker 1: and blows up the schoolroom. There's no difference. That's what
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  Speaker 1: they were taught. Now, as a result of what happened
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  Speaker 1: with the South African government coming in, you know, blacks
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  Speaker 1: were given priority. There were white doctors, there were lawyers,
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  Speaker 1: there were nurses, there were business owners that had far
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  Speaker 1: less power, and in terms of government, blacks were given
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  Speaker 1: priority and in many cases replaced whites, the pendulum swinging
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  Speaker 1: the other way. So was their discrimination? Is their discrimination? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: there is, but it's much more complicated than that, much
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  Speaker 1: more because you've got all kinds of issues going on
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  Speaker 1: within that. How much discrimination? How did they determine who
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  Speaker 1: was incompetent and not what jobs, what positions in government
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  Speaker 1: were replaced by blacks? And it's all different, different places,
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  Speaker 1: different folks involved. So when you hear straight out white discrimination, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it does exist. You know, reverse discrimination, you've heard about.
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  Speaker 1: We hear this all the time. One of the big
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  Speaker 1: cases of diverse discrimination was in nineteen seventy three, the
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  Speaker 1: Baky case where this guy, this white guy, was not
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  Speaker 1: given a position in a medical school and pursuing to
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  Speaker 1: the UC regulations and you seek what he had to
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  Speaker 1: comply with, and he got better grades than the black
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  Speaker 1: person who was brought in straight out because there was
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  Speaker 1: a quota system, and that was reverse discrimination. Was that
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  Speaker 1: discrimination against white people? Absolutely? He was white, and the
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  Speaker 1: reason he didn't get into medical school even though he qualified,
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  Speaker 1: versus the black person who did get him to his position. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: how do you argue this is not discrimination. On the
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  Speaker 1: other hand, how about discrimination that happened before that, where
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  Speaker 1: blacks weren't even allowed to get into uc. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there was a time when the thought, and that's certainly
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  Speaker 1: in my lifetime, there was a time when African Americans
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  Speaker 1: you didn't see them professions, You didn't see them as management.
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  Speaker 1: They were a manual labor. I'd never thought, well, I
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  Speaker 1: did think, but it just wasn't going to be a
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  Speaker 1: as it was a black president. My god, and there's
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  Speaker 1: certainly people during the Civil Rights movement, a black president
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  Speaker 1: that's impossible. Well, yeah, the definition discriminations have changed. So
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  Speaker 1: the bottom lines, I can't wait for these bags, these favors,
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  Speaker 1: Party favors, welcome back, a welcome gift bags. Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm going to finish up with a letter
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  Speaker 1: that's going into the bag from Alex Adams Department of
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  Speaker 1: Health and Human Services, Administration for Children and Families. And
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: in the letter in the welcome back, he writes, the
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  Speaker 1: Trump administration understands America's immigration system must be US citizens
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  Speaker 1: first and only welcome those who will assimilate into the
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  Speaker 1: American way of life and preserve our borders, language, culture,
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  Speaker 1: tradition's ideals. To welcome you to America and help you
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  Speaker 1: accustomate to our heritage, we have provided various educational resources
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  Speaker 1: to support your day today life, expand your knowledge of
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  Speaker 1: American history and values. Several products from Praeger you right
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  Speaker 1: wing educational materials like a story about a black South
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  Speaker 1: African who protects a white rugby roommate from a black mob.
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  Speaker 1: Little one sided, but you know it's one side of
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  Speaker 1: the other way too, Okay, party favors from the President.
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  Speaker 1: Why not, let's it, guys, We're done tomorrow morning. It's
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Amy and Me will still on vacation, I think till Monday.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Neil comes back on Monday, and so the whole crew
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: is here in the meantime. We've got Amy, We've got Me,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: We've got Cono, We've got Ann and coming up, it's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Gary and Shannon, same place, same station, same time, KFI
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