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Francis Ellis | Beating Cancel Culture & Finding Comedic Tone At Barstool + NFL Playoff Review · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 4: with the Boys, Episode three eleven, Preten three ten, dude,
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  Speaker 4: three ten. We have a lot to look forward to
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  Speaker 4: today on this show. We have Francis Ellis with us,
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  Speaker 4: round of the playoffs going on. The wild Card Playoffs
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  Speaker 2: Hofey before we get into that.
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  Speaker 5: If you are a barstool surviving fan, there is spoilers
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  Speaker 5: of tonight's episode, So I just wanted to put.
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  Speaker 2: As you're listening, there are spoilers of Monday night's episode,
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  Speaker 2: so just be cautious in this Francis episode spoilers.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe we can do that too in the end place,
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  Speaker 2: Before we get into the NFL. Is that where we
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  Speaker 2: were going to j JP four, That's what I was.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I saw JP trying to talk and I was
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  Speaker 4: trying to bring out my thought, and I was like,
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring JP in after.
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  Speaker 2: Should we go college football?
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  Speaker 4: Let's go college first. Let's go college.
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  Speaker 2: And for everybody curious that follows along and watches the
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  Speaker 2: locker room as well, we will be hat We will
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  Speaker 2: be dropping the college football Playoff preview four yesterday tonight
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  Speaker 2: on Tuesday, that drops at six pm. And then our
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  Speaker 2: NFL playoffs, our wildcard weekend that will drop tomorrow morning
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  Speaker 2: on Wednesday at six am. So that is how we're
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  Speaker 2: separating the locker room this week. A lot of awesome games,
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  Speaker 2: we got all the best teams, we get to talk
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  Speaker 2: about all the best teams. Now playoff picture in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL started out.
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  Speaker 3: The National Championships on Monday. Are we going to include
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  Speaker 3: that or how are.
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  Speaker 2: We going to do that? No? National Championships on like
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  Speaker 2: January twenty eleven, Yeah, the next weekend.
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  Speaker 4: You're right, there's still around. I know it's there are
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  Speaker 4: so many teams out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeaheah, that's true. All right, Yeah, good talk. Yeah, do
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  Speaker 2: we want to talk about did we touch on Michigan Alabama?
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  Speaker 4: Ge?
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  Speaker 2: We touch on the ball? We touch about it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, wild series of against really quest but I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: if you tuned in you probably did. Unless you're an
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  Speaker 4: Alabama or a Michigan fan. The first half of that
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  Speaker 4: quarter was just fucking crazy, drunk drunk, raining down God,
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  Speaker 4: just raining down the missiles of rain. And well, you said,
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  Speaker 4: four plays, three turnovers in four plays.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they put a stat on the screen that was
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  Speaker 3: like Alabama's starting drive starts on their own twenty five
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  Speaker 3: Michigan starting drives opponents twenty first yard line.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, just crazy, And it shows how bad Michigan's offense
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  Speaker 4: is the entire year, because we got the ball in
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  Speaker 4: the red zone on three separate occasions based on turnovers,
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  Speaker 4: and we came away with nine points.
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  Speaker 2: So game could have got away in a hurry.
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  Speaker 4: Alabama, a lot of guys sat out Michigan, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of guys sat out, a lot of transfers from Alabama,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of transfers from Michigan. So we said, we
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  Speaker 4: thought the Jaln Millroe was gonna be the deciding factor
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  Speaker 4: in this game.
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  Speaker 2: And he was.
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  Speaker 4: He was a deciding factor in this game. He just
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  Speaker 4: didn't play well. It was tough for him. My heart
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  Speaker 4: goes out to him because you wanted to have a great,
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  Speaker 4: long career. He hurt himself more than helped the l
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  Speaker 4: himself in a situation.
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  Speaker 2: Now the positive, the positive is bold as bad of
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  Speaker 2: a season as Michigan had. You guys ended on the
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  Speaker 2: best note of any team in college football. People.
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  Speaker 4: I will made the best three win team in collegeable
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  Speaker 4: history a couple of years ago, and there there was
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  Speaker 4: an argument to that. So not an argument, okay, right,
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  Speaker 4: And so now here I go because I've thought about
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  Speaker 4: it a little bit too, and I've actually dug.
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  Speaker 2: A little deep on I was gonna tea five lost teams.
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  Speaker 4: Michigan is the only team since nineteen ninety one to
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  Speaker 4: be unranked and defeat two top fifteen teams consecutive weeks,
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  Speaker 4: them and the University of Arizona. So there's a little
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  Speaker 4: smidget right there. I'll dive a little deeper in. But
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  Speaker 4: you look at our points per game, our points, it's
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  Speaker 4: just bad all around. But just find a way to win.
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  Speaker 4: Find a way to win those last two three weeks.
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  Speaker 4: And dude, I don't want to be that guy, but
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  Speaker 4: they started clicking when I spoke to the team. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know what I said. They're three and oh, they're
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  Speaker 4: three and oh they've covered the spread every single time
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  Speaker 4: since I've spoke to that team. What you say to him, Doug,
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  Speaker 4: So obviously public speaking is not an issue.
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  Speaker 2: Of memories after this one, boys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I literally got up there and I basically
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  Speaker 4: told them, thank you, thank you for putting back the
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  Speaker 4: culture of Michigan that people look at the team teams
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  Speaker 4: I played for. We were terrible, so I never got
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  Speaker 4: to see what like the culture of Michigan, the amazing blue,
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  Speaker 4: like the Michigan men mentality. You guys are that regardless
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  Speaker 4: of what your record reflects. And just told them to
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  Speaker 4: be present, be present, And those boys been fucking present,
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  Speaker 4: been present. So shout out Michigan. Dude, r I p
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  Speaker 4: the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: Your tough loss for Bama, tough loss for South Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was uh not the original showing that
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  Speaker 2: the SEC usually does in bowl games. They don't matter now.
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  Speaker 4: That it's not about not mattering. What mattered. What's happening
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  Speaker 4: now is there's an equalizer between all the other conferences
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  Speaker 4: and the SEC. SEC used to pay their players. Now
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  Speaker 4: everybody else can also pay their players. Everyone's getting figured out.
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  Speaker 2: You watch the way them Huskers celebrated the Pinstripe Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: and you tell me that that game doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it matters by.
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  Speaker 3: One of the prancing around listen't think it.
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  Speaker 2: Mattered to Illinois beating the South Carolina game cock scene,
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  Speaker 2: no matter how many guys sat out, you're gonna you're gonna, actually,
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  Speaker 2: in your brain think that that uniform didn't show up
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  Speaker 2: excited to play. You saw Shane Beamer ready to fucking
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  Speaker 2: throw bows, which I absolutely love, love, I love Beilma
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  Speaker 2: doing the little taunt thing. I love Shane Beemer just
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  Speaker 2: getting chaos like I loved that Bowl game. I love
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  Speaker 2: watching that Bowl game those river South Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, no question. But Beemer better be careful because a
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  Speaker 4: couple of years from now. Hold he might belam. Hold
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  Speaker 4: they look a little too similar. Can put a little
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  Speaker 4: that weight on that coaching. Waight now he's fit, Now
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  Speaker 4: he can lose it. How do you look at Shane
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  Speaker 4: Beemer's body? You think he could turn into Brett Beilama.
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  Speaker 4: I saw have him Mike rabels As twenty eighteen. He
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  Speaker 4: came in a little static Brett Beelm's huey goueie body
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  Speaker 4: after you. I'm just saying, word of caution, Coach Beemer,
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  Speaker 4: keep it tight, brother, because those calories get away from
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  Speaker 4: you fast when coaching gets stressful.
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  Speaker 2: You see Bei Lama, he will see what he's dealing with.
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  Speaker 5: He will never have to walk back across the field
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  Speaker 5: at the pay step. Brett Beelman was walking back. My
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  Speaker 5: boy was out of breath just from hitting this one
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  Speaker 5: on him, and it took a slow walk back. Ref
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  Speaker 5: could have give him a delay a game.
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  Speaker 4: And it's just a word of caution. It's just a
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  Speaker 4: word of caution. That being said, though, all these are
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  Speaker 4: the schools being able to pay. Now you see a
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  Speaker 4: changing at the tide. You see it kind of happening.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead, sir, question ahead.
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  Speaker 7: And this one's the JP. Why was Ole miss clowning
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  Speaker 7: Shane Biemer? I didn't understand.
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  Speaker 2: That that was Juice Wells, wasn't it. So Juice Wells
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  Speaker 2: came from South Carolina, but I thought he had a
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  Speaker 2: solid relationship. Yeah, Juice is the show went.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on with him, bro, I.
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  Speaker 2: Mean he went villa mode that one.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like Shane Biemer said something midyear after we beat
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  Speaker 5: somebody and was like, you know, we had some guys
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  Speaker 5: they said that they didn't believe we had a quarterback
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  Speaker 5: and they didn't want to play with them, and so
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  Speaker 5: we're seeing how that's going right now. So that was
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  Speaker 5: like the dig and then Juice Wells catches like his
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  Speaker 5: sixth pass of the year in the bowl game. We
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  Speaker 5: would have made Juice well as a top two round pick.
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  Speaker 5: Now he might go undrafted, which is tough for him.
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  Speaker 4: It sounds like somebody's getting a sleeper in the draft.
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  Speaker 8: Then they could be.
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  Speaker 5: It depends. He dropped a lot of balls this year
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  Speaker 5: and I want him to do well. Like a lot
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  Speaker 5: of South Carolina fans hate him to the death, but
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  Speaker 5: I mean I want him to do well, dude.
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  Speaker 4: We will get to the draft in a little bit. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: our beloved Tennessee Titans have the first overall pick, and
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  Speaker 4: we live in Nashville, Tennessee. We'll give him a reclass
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  Speaker 4: for that.
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  Speaker 2: Shout out the Patriots, Shout out the Patriots taking care
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  Speaker 2: of business against the Bills yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: But dude, these last playoffs were nuts. I mean, quickly, man,
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  Speaker 4: let's get a moment of silence for the Oregon Ducks.
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  Speaker 2: I love you Dan, Love you Dan. That was crazy.
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  Speaker 4: That's Michigan's fault. I mean, they woke up a fucking giant. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that is wild. They are incredible, reredible that bankroll did
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  Speaker 4: show up.
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  Speaker 2: Now that freshman bro, bro. But listen, how an alien.
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  Speaker 4: How many times have you seen guys that are freshman
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  Speaker 4: phenoms lose draft status because they get into this Like
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  Speaker 4: when we watch a Lebron James or Patrick Mahomes or
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  Speaker 4: Tom Brady and we see them play so well for
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  Speaker 4: so long, we get like this, we kind of get
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  Speaker 4: callous to the idea of how great these guys are.
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  Speaker 4: And I feel like that window is so much shorter
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  Speaker 4: in college, Like this kid's having an insane freshman season.
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  Speaker 4: This is might be a hot take if you're so
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  Speaker 4: good at a freshman. We were like, this kid is
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  Speaker 4: the top wide receiver in this draft class. He's a
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  Speaker 4: top ten pick right now, why not sit out the
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  Speaker 4: next two years and just say fuck it?
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  Speaker 5: Two years is a long time.
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  Speaker 4: So Chase was it, Jamar Chase did it for one year.
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  Speaker 4: But Johnny Manziel good good example. He goes in, he
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  Speaker 4: wins the Heisman as a freshman. Those last couple of
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  Speaker 4: years haven't hurt them a little bit. And if the
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  Speaker 4: thirty first pick in the draft, maybe he's not.
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  Speaker 5: I think the way Jeremiah Smith is built is like
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  Speaker 5: he's built to last. And that dude, I mean he is.
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  Speaker 5: He does not look like an eighteen year old that
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  Speaker 5: at all.
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  Speaker 4: He's a man.
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  Speaker 5: And the balls he's catching is like it's not gonna
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  Speaker 5: be like a lack of Yeah, like it's not gonna
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  Speaker 5: be a lack of.
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  Speaker 4: Right, he's fighting that ball, he's a heats that he
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  Speaker 4: missile for that ball.
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  Speaker 2: He's incredible. You're saying sit out the next two years
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  Speaker 2: just to protect himself.
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  Speaker 4: So he goes no, It's more it's more of like
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  Speaker 4: a haha take, but like, yeah, he he could probably
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  Speaker 4: he could probably sit out the next two years, he'll
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  Speaker 4: still be a first round draft pick.
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  Speaker 2: It's basically what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I you, I mean, you play next year,
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  Speaker 4: you think about that the following year if you if
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  Speaker 4: you do the same thing as you did, and you
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  Speaker 4: look at the team, maybe coming back and like saying it,
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  Speaker 4: but I mean he is NFL ready wide receiver one
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  Speaker 4: right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah on an NFL team. Incredible And they just beat
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  Speaker 2: the brakes off the ducks.
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  Speaker 4: Man, like before it even starts.
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  Speaker 2: I felt for him. Thirty thirty four to nothing.
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  Speaker 4: The game was over at the coin flip, they just
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  Speaker 4: said they at that look in their eye.
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  Speaker 2: Man, I'm telling you, all those teams that got to
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  Speaker 2: play the week before I think helped them out. Now,
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  Speaker 2: obviously Ohio State had to uh I think. I was
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  Speaker 2: talking with Tate, He's like, I mean Ohio State had
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  Speaker 2: to sit out like however many weeks before. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: sud there thinking, I'm like that that is true. You
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  Speaker 2: guys had to sit out that long. But losing to Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: and as loud and as crazy as that moment was
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  Speaker 2: for them, like they were just they were so pissed off,
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  Speaker 2: they were so dialed in and focused. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: Oregon wasn't, but they're just salivating. They're salivating to right
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  Speaker 2: that wrong because they've had to wait for weeks and
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  Speaker 2: they're preparing like and again, I say that, and you
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  Speaker 2: almost have to assume that Oregan wasn't. I'm not saying that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just I feel like the type of motivation that
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State had and to get whatever rust they might
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  Speaker 2: have had against an Indiana football or not Indiana Tennessee
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  Speaker 2: beating Tennessee like you kind of right, right, you get
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  Speaker 2: Tennessee fans, you get a game in against Tennessee before
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  Speaker 2: you go and play Oregon. The closest one is Arizona State, Texas.
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  Speaker 4: Arizona State should be playing this week.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you don't know, I that should have been a
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  Speaker 2: targeting penalty. They should have gotten into the opponent territory.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows if they would have moved the ball anymore,
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  Speaker 2: and that kicker probably would have missed the fel.
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  Speaker 4: Probably would have missed Feld. You're right, Yeah, there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of what ifs.
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  Speaker 2: There there are there are what is but that should have, definitely,
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  Speaker 2: without any doubt, should have been a targeting penalty.
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  Speaker 4: Without Yeah, in the world we live in now, that
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  Speaker 4: is one thousand percent like a textbook targeting penalty. Hell
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  Speaker 4: with a helmet and he's you know, can't protect it,
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  Speaker 4: and it's a textbook no call.
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  Speaker 2: With a team like Texas.
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  Speaker 3: Counter Stallion's kind of take on it, like there should
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  Speaker 3: be a tiered system of targeting, Like basically, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: like that, like a five to five yard I didn't
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  Speaker 3: mean to We did make contact in the head, like.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of like running into the kicker versus roughing the kicker, right, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: I did. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: I like it.
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  Speaker 4: It makes me a little nervous when you start to
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  Speaker 4: add these gray areas in these in these rules, because
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  Speaker 4: there is already so much of a human element to
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  Speaker 4: them to make a judgment call right there, right then
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  Speaker 4: and there.
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  Speaker 3: But by doing that, does that remove a ref's judgment,
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  Speaker 3: Like you at least have three chances.
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  Speaker 2: And so you know it's you know, it's targeting.
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  Speaker 4: But then you get into the world of like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: is it tier one or tier two or is it
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  Speaker 4: tier two or tier three? And now you go back
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  Speaker 4: and forth and those extra five yards or whatever it
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  Speaker 4: is the you know, kick him out of the game.
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  Speaker 4: That's such a big deal at that point. So what
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  Speaker 4: are we talking about this because that's what tier is
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  Speaker 4: that the highest heier is.
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  Speaker 3: He would give it a like make it a five
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  Speaker 3: yard penalty. Guy stays in the game.
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  Speaker 2: And the kid doesn't get kicked out. That's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: If it's targeting, the kid also gets kicked out. Like
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  Speaker 2: the penalties are so expering. It's like NBA, you got
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  Speaker 2: flagrant one, flagrant two and the uh the example of
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  Speaker 2: Arizona State the week before that number seven who put
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  Speaker 2: that liquor that could have just been a five year
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  Speaker 2: old penalty to where you don't give him fifte yards
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  Speaker 2: and kick him out of the game or kick him
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  Speaker 2: out of the first first half of the next because
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  Speaker 2: that was that was under the chain safety first. Did
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  Speaker 2: you see that his number seven if you're watching it
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  Speaker 2: was number seven who got the safety on Texas. That
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  Speaker 2: was his first play back in the game.
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  Speaker 4: No shit, Yeah, Shamari Simmons and he was the only
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  Speaker 4: one that could lock down Golden is that name?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? I mean, dude, that so fun.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: That game was awesome to watch, and Will brought a
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: good point in Chicago when we were talking about is
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: Texas didn't move the ball at all other than the
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: couple explosive plays ahead one on special teams, yeah, and
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: then that run. Other than that, ASU's defense handled business
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: the entire game. And ASU's offense, although they weren't coming
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: with points on the board because if they had an
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: adequate kicker, they actually run away with that game in
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: a sense because they're in the red zone in the
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: territory to kick so many times. They are moving the
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: ball twenty five to twenty five on a consistent basis.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: The top in that game was wild.
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: Can I get on soapbox for the Big twelve for
• 15:50
  Speaker 7: like ten seconds? Yeah, I just want to say everybody saying, oh,
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: Arizona States defense is only good because they blitz every play.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: They blitz every play.
• 15:57
  Speaker 7: They're not that physical, don't have grit like you know
• 16:01
  Speaker 7: Big ten or sec A. SU came to play and
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: I was State came to play against Miami too. I mean,
• 16:08
  Speaker 7: the Big twelve has good, gritty, strong defenses. It's not
• 16:13
  Speaker 7: just the high flying offenses of old of the Big Twelve.
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: It's a lot of programs that really have good running.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Games, like a SU, like a Texas Tech.
• 16:24
  Speaker 7: They had trouble later in the season, but I just
• 16:27
  Speaker 7: wanted to get that out there. Baylor played great against
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: l C. I was happy with that performance.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: They lost, but came back a little bit.
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, what's your what do you.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Say, like ASU, what was the point of the they're gritty?
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Where did Texas come from? Where did Texas come from?
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Twelve even matchup?
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but Texas played in the SEC championship this year.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I think what you're getting big.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Needs to be looked at a little more higher regard. Okay,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: that's we we'll take that.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agree with the A and eleven in bowl games? Yeah?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Not good brutal?
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, if you were, let's actually quickly go
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: through and just tier the conferences real quick. I think
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: it will be pretty consistent on board. Top three tiers
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: would be big, ten than.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: The SEC then twelve. Yeah right, I don't think I
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: mean that is that?
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Do we even anybody arguing that at all?
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: No? I don't think arguing on that.
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: To Yeah, the ACC's record something. I do think that
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: could happen for the bowl games to incentivize it more.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Since everybody is getting paid, it should be if you
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: win this game, that bowl pays your team, So like
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: every kid gets.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Five races like a playoff bonus.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think that could make it electric
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: even in these other Bowl games.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but listen, if you got a kid that's gonna
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: go to the NFL, you need a little more of
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: incent up.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Than five thousand dollars.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: I mean, not getting stars get fifty.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah it get some money. You have to put fifty
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: across the board for everybody.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, which would be a lot for one hundred and
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: five guys on a football team.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting, that's a good thou like.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Uh, like, what does basketball do they have like the
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: March Madness actual bracket to win it all and they
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: have another bracket.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: To have that?
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: I that would.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I think it would.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Because if then you would have a Nebraska movie forward,
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: a Michigan movie forward, if there'd be Will and Ies dialogue,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: you'd have these other other teams being able to do
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: a bunch of that would be fun.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: I don't think Will confident Lawan's dialogue carry.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, forgive it time, bro, give you time because
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I love you. Threw that in there, like we're gonna
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: move the needle. Yeah yeah, come on now, I'm telling you,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: let's do a quick prediction.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: We'll go to the NFL. Yeah, or do you want
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: to wait for locker room?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Definitely pretty Oh yeah.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I guess Penn Stale look good.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, Notre Dame look good.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I think Texas will put up a better fight. I
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: think Texas will put up a better fight than people
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: are anticipating. With Ohio State, they have to know they
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: have like the best pass defense like in the country,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: and their defense that been don't break mentality. Offense has
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: got to figure it out and move the ball a
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: little bit more because Ohio State can get up on them.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: But I think that they're going to compete a lot
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: more than people are anticipating because Ohia steaks now had
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: two blowouts, so there's no reason to think Ohio State's
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: not just gonna walk through this game.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Quinn ewers too, like, I mean, I know, yeah, people
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: want to say what they want to say about him,
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: but that was ice cold at the end of air.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Did you see that the dude the ball kind of
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: hit the ground on that touchdown pass? Yeah? I was
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: seeing that. Yeah, that the play. Yeah, the fourth thirteen
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: that Texas caught, he catched it in the back half
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: of the ball like in one of the frames that
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: goes down and touches the ground as he gathers it
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: back in his body. I was gonna say, and they
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: don't even they didn't even look at it right now
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: against the s U that field goal bounce for Texas.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: I think you saw the field goal bounced in after
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: it got tipped.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Are two points right?
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: So I mean obviously they counted as nothing, but and
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: they're trying to figure out what does the rule mean.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know what do y'all think it should mean.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: I personally think if it bounces in, that'll be awesome
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: if it counted. But if it bounces in like it
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: hit the ground, it gets tipped like in the game,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: Texas tipped it, it bounced and it went in through
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: the goalposts.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Isn't that what is trying to argue right now?
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they appealed it. They appealed it. And look, I know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: shout out Dealey for taking full accountability and kind of
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: breaking this play down, But bro, I just what do
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: you do? Cover zero?
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Like you can't let anybody get in front of you.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: You play the sticks, You play the sticks. You don't
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: let anything behind you.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: And hey, yeah, if you think you see a you
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: saw it hit the ground sherif's in there.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: That is crazy because I would love to see Asu
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: playing right now. I love to see.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: You got dudes like Brandon Walker out there talking about
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Cam Scattabow. Isn't that good?
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: It's just Crazyqueen that.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Mid game bro ninety nine yards receiving, we got forty
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: six yard pass, one hundred and forty yards rushing.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: The kid came to play man.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: And the thing that's sick is I want to pull
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: up if we can find this a comparing contrast of Quinn.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: You were stats in that game and Sam Levitt's because
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Sam Levitt was talking crazy pregame. I'm the best quarterback.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna show wanting the best quarterback, and Scatibo is
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: essentially like I should have been. I'm the best running
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: back in all of college football and they're gonna find
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: out and he you walk away. You look at Scatabo's
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: stats and you're like, goddamn, I mean he might be.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: And they just I mean, that line just could not protect.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Could not protect. It was tough to watch, but uh,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, yeah, I mean Quinn played better having that,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: having that, but are inflated because of overtime. It's crazy,
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: who's it who talking about g.
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Yours because that nobody in Texas wants him to be
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: the quarterback. And you know he knows.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: That, which is wild, I know.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: And then to make that throw. I know in his
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: head he's probably thinking, screw all of y'all, and wat's
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: what I do against Ohio State is probably what's going
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: through his head.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Hopefully. I just on that last play defensively, just talking
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: about that to me, if you want to go zero,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: yeah you need to go you need to go true zero,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: or in my opinion, you play coverage, but you can't
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: do the whole simulation Cover zero play into a cover four,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Like you either got to go all out, have one
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: extra guy getting into the quarterback so he as to
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: throw it right now, or you have to stay back
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and play coverage because right here you go to that
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: back view of that last play, I mean, yeah, you
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: got seven up stop, they send six and they have
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: six guys to block, you know what I mean, Like,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: you're not running true cover zero right there. You've got
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: to bring one extra guy because he honestly could even
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: hit the deep out route on this fourth and thirteen
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: two because the dude, beat his leverage to the outside.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Look at this uh Nickel down here, boo, keep going
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: even he gets open.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I've never been a huge fan of send
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: the house in a critical game situation.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Not fourth and thirteen. You're thinking like fourth, like in
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: six seven, keep.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Everything in front of you getting tackled.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: The way your guys cann have blitz feet. Yeah, like
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: he can't really have blitz feet when they got enough
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: to pick up everybody because you're bailing.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're you gotta bail and play catch up
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: versus all these guys running their routes. You feel bad
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: for that safety. I love the fact that Dillingham came
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: and you know, owned it not once but twice, But
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I don't I'm personally not a fan.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Of that play because I think Dilly said the safety
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: has to pick up anything intermediate. So he ends up
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: trying to dive down and chase that out route versus
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: staying deep in a true cover four because that out
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: that out that corner post that he gets, he gets
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: hit on the safety in the middle of the field,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: basically vacates the middle of the field to go try
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: to dive on that deep out right and you're right too.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: If you're gonna you have to bring more than six,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: like you've got to get home in the situations, have
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: him throw off his back foot.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Obviously quarterback is easy to play. But that's just go
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: to the play coverage.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Beginning right before the snappits I hate this little line.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: What's his line down right now?
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: There's showing I mean, yeah, yeah, you have ammo yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: and then that guy in the far left he drops out.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: But the problem is like that three technique.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: First, Oh, Arizona State senting six right here, Texas has
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: got seven and they're in max pro. Oh yeahs H
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: two H three.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: I I don't like if I if you're going to
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: send a max protection, you need to like overemphasize one gap.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: So I originally thought this was an avalanche, but it's
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: avalanche is three up the middle, and you either get
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: there with emotion and then the guy come the guy
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: who goes in most of him and then comes in,
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: or you just have a guy kind of sitting four
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: yards behind and bring him up. When you have that
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: many up the middle and you have three of the middle,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: you now you essentially unless your gap scheme blocking, you're
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: not You're not able to pick that up because the
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: backs can get there. That's when feet get in the way.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Some people trip over, and that's when you get into
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: the quarterbacks lap. But if you're doing this type of
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Ammo blitz, which is just two a gaps up the
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: middle and dropping a guy into his zone, the left
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: tackle is one of the most important people in this thing.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: And this is this kid's a first round pick. As
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: soon as he sees his guy drop, which that end
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: does a bad job of like showing that he's gonna
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: come and then drops, he needs to now start screaming
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: to his left guard to bump everything back, because you
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: have to assume there's more numbers the opposite way than
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: you if there's a blitz going away from you.
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: So if this guy right here, yeah, you're saying, send
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: him through this gap that is going to be produced
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: by the left tackle.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: No, I mean the blitz. They're in a seven up. Look,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: if they brought all of them that you're in like
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: a true zero this one, I would have maybe had
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: like a.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Personal outside guys.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I would have yeah, yeah, I would have. I would
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: have personally liked to see another guy up the middle.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: You're only gonna bring six.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: This right here, and this, you would send those two.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: On and then have like what would just like a
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: bracket type of defense in the back end.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're playing cover zero. Yeah, you're playing
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a true cover zero.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: You're just you're basically like, hey, guys, hold up in
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: front of you as much as pustle, keep everything in
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: front of you, and pray to God that rush gets home.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: And if you bring it, it's getting home. He's got
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: to throw it as fast as possible. Sometimes before these
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: guys can get other break, he might have to try
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: to hit this checkdown and then it's a gang tackle
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: vice tackle situation. But I mean ifans or butts, dude.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Great game, phenomenal game game.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: And we're going back and forth on those bets, being
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: like do we do we cash out? Like my bet
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: was sitting at like sixteen, but I couldn't do It
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: would have been sick to my stomach if if I
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: would as one. And then you know what I'm saying.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: You got to write that out, have to write Yeah,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: you have to ride that out. We'll talk about we'll
• 27:10
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  Speaker 2: State looks Salty Penn State, Notre Dame is gonna be
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: a good game. I think so too. You don't think so?
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: You think so? You think Georgia was that bad JP?
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Uh, Yeah, I do, and I Notre Dame. I mean
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Riley Leonard, Like, I feel like he's got to be
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: one of the easier quarterbacks to game plan four. He
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: had ninety pass yards eighty rush yards. That's not great,
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: and I don't think you can win a championship with
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: a quarterback that's kind of consistently.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: They run the ball well. But Penn State, to your point,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: is a very good defensive run.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: Tea right, and then I think they run it better.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like with Singleton and who's the other Allen.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Right, Drew Allery. Yeah so I think. I mean, Notre
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: Dame has surprised people, but I think Penn State I
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: would not be surprised if they wipe them.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I mean they surprised people too because of this coaching
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: ability from the staff with Freeman down, like some of
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: these play calls that go when they went for it
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: on fourth down when they had the punt him out
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: there and then they sprint it off the field on
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: the offense.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: That love Freeman, Like, I want to see him do well, but.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Did he win Coach of the Year? I thought they
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: said he won.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think he won Coach of the year.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: That during the game they were talking about Coach of
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: the Year. I don't know if he won it or
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: he was just like part of the favorite.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: To win it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: The most handsome man of the year.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: He a handsome boy.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: He's a handsome boy, for sure.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Apparently you're not allowed to sub all eleven at once
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: like that you should, like you need to be able
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: to have because Kirby Smart was really pissed about it
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: and said something about it an oppressor, about how that's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: not allowed and you need to like that's I think
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: that's when you're supposed to get the cross about being
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: able to give the defense to sub.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, usually they do that in regular offensive
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: players anyway, right when they change personnel. The guy stands
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: there and they have to like let him sub out
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: and you are jogging off the field slow.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened with this one, but I
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: just I just remember seeing that Kirby was super piss worked.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: I like I like the idea of like it's obviously,
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: uh it hurts the defense, but like when subs are
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: happening Like that is where true coaching comes and play,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: like having your guys ready and a wear at all times, like, hey,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: they're an eleven right now, but if they go twelve,
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: we have to go to the base.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: So we're gonna throw these guys out.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Be on your just be ready, ultimate communication, ultimate team
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: game type of mentality that shit fires me up the
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: game within the game type stuff. But to go back
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: to Penn State, Oh, who's you know? I think the
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: most competitive national championship is Penn State Ohiose State.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, based on how it's played out right now.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Basic and their and their last time they played. Yeah,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: and you say, like it's hard to beat a team
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: two times a row. It was proved with Oregon. And
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: if Penn State on that birth and one or whatever
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: it is, they get that they beat Ohiose State.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah exactly.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: I mean tip of the cap to Ohio State. Man,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: they have taken all that noise and said fuck you.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: That is impressive, very impressive. And with the give me Texas.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: What was disappointing to at the Notre Dame Georgia game,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: like Georgia defensively, like they tackled so poorly on the edge.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Man, which is insane because you watch them against Texas
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: in the in the first game against Texas or the
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: SEC championed like the tackling is there.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like plays are there to be made, and
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: they were just not tackling well on the perimeter.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: Maybe they saw like Stockton wasn't the guy and they
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: just kind of knew, like we don't have.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: The team to kind of get done and running the
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: ball well in the perimeter or while House they did
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: a hell of a job doing it against Oregon, they
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: could not stop that handback play, no, which is crazy.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you were kind of explaining a little bit how
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: it's difficult for linebackers because to me, when we do handbacks,
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: like this is the same play in no way this
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: is affecting the defense. But you were explain to why
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: that's more difficult for.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: On the handback. As a backer, you're stepping with the
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: motion of the of the running back. When the line
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: and the running backs going the same way, you're getting
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: sucked in to kind of like say, say the handback
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: is starting to go left, you're like sucking in going
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: to the left at first, and when they bended back
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: around where Ohio State was really successful doing that. A
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: lot of teams you do it with like a tight
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: end or a full back, so you'll start one way
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: in the lead I and then bend it back the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: other way, so the full back or the tight end,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: that motion or wrap will take you to your run fit.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: It's a lot harder to see when you're doing it
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: off of a jet sweep. Ohio State was doing a
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: great job of it with the receiver getting to the
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: edge and so the backs like stepping toward the receiver
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: receivers coming background or on a jet suite coming back
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: to the edge on the other side. So it was
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: making it really difficult. And with the momentum going that way,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: that like left side of the line of scrimmage was
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: doing a great job, but just kind of walling it off,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: like there was no disruption by the Orgon ducks. So
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I thought they were torching them on that bend back play.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like they just really didn't. I mean,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: it's unfortunate because you love Dani, you love the pregame speeches,
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: all that just didn't feel like Oregon really came to play,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: were they, Which I don't know how you don't after
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: you watch the Tennessee film. You put that film on,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: you're like, boys, this is a different team right now
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: in the October and with.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: The rap too, when you're playing gapped out, you're you're
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: in your head like when the back step in and
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: everything's kind of decided. You're trying to aggressively press your
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: gap versus on a handback, the only guy who can
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: make the play whoever is responsible for the edge. So
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: when you get that wrap happen late and the guys
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: on the edge you got basically a one on one
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: time because you're trying to press the A gap or
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: the B gap hard versus like you almost you need
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: the second level to feel it and get to the outside.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: So if you're game planning that handback that it's same
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: look that Ohio State was doing multiple times.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: What do you do?
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Do you bring a safety down?
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, or do you tell your linebackers to be
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: a little bit loose and flow at the play?
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. It's such a game plan thing that you're
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: gonna have to rep in practice to where if you're
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: trying to cheat it with two shell and having a
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: safety come down late or just backer kind of keeping
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: their death Like hey, don't let this. Don't let the
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: run game decide within the first step of the running back.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine if you're a defense and you're watching
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Ohio States through the air, offense being like, we're going
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: to bring a safety down in the box now to
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: stop the run game, Like you're you're I mean they
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: are operating right now.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely operating. And it was a fun year for
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Boise State. But they didn't get whooped. Yeah what they
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: hold gentry to.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: They didn't get whooped. If you look at the stats
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: that Boise State outstat at Penn State, they had more
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: total yards, did better, had more first downs like Pence
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the boys stay had two turnovers, and that's what allowed
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Penn State to square.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the game, right.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: No, I'm saying Pence or Boise State did a hell
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: of a lot better than the Like then what the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: score looks like and what like all the pundits and stuff, So.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: You're saying, turn the film, don't don't get the score,
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: turn the film.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Boise State, Like, yeah, they Jenz had like one hundred
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: and six yards on like thirty carries. So I mean,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: he's the best running back in the country. He's bound
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to get his But like Maddox Madison played really good,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Like Boisse State held their own a little bit against
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: k Yeah yeah, one or two fumbles, but again like
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that is the game.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: But because Pince they got out on him quick.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they were up like fourteen nothing. But then
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Bois State kind of like they were going back and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: forth for a driver too. And thenviously the turnovers came and.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Just right because boys is a team that's built to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: give Gentry the ball thirty times, but he's going to
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: try and get one forty one sixty right, Like Penn
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: State's defense at the hell of a job shut him down.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: And what you can see, too, is all the glimpses
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: of gent like he's going to be a monster in
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the league because even like he's getting hit and tackled,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: like all eleven hats are getting to the football, but
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: it's taking all eleven to bring this fucking man down. Bro. Yeah, Bro,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: he's an incredible running back, dude, incredible.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Who who's you really have? GENTI your skataboo.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Genty that's the answer. That's the answer. That's the answer.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I mean scataboo. Everybody knows. I love scattered but for
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: the culture.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: I am so interesting to see what that kid runs
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: at the combine he's got I mean, if he.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I think so to you talking about SAT maybe four seven,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I was telling you that he's talked at like twenty
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: two miles an hour. I know.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: But he's a guy that strikes me as like a
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: game speed type guy, Like he's got incredible game speed
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: where it's like, oh he moves this as was everybody else.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: But I feel like he's not a guy that's going
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: to It might be how pale he is, it might
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: be how short his legs are, but something about him
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: getting in a three point stance and running a forty
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: I feel like he's at a disadvantage. He is a locomotive.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Ten yard split two might.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Be a little toughgas range is going to be like
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: four or five, eight to four to sixty six.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Okay, I feel like that's doable. That's a workable.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I think he'll put up like a Rex berkhead four
• 36:26
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• 36:27
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  Speaker 2: of the college will prove you again. That episode for
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: for previewing the playoffs for college football this week on
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Thursday night and Friday, will be on The Locker Room.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: That drops tonight at six pm six On Tuesday, six
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: p six Central time, NFL bro playoffs are set. We
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: want to start NFC AFC.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Let's start AFC. We're a couple of AFC boys ourselves,
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: or at least the most recent couple AFC cats. Fun slate,
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: fun slate of games right here.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: But I believe.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I have the answers to all these games. I believe
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: I already have the answers in my hand. I've watched
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: the film. Brother, I'm telling you, I am seeing the field.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Big Cat was saying on the Pro Football Show, what
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: was that Chiefs gotta buy a week. They're gonna take
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: the lesser team that comes into the Chiefs are gonna
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: win that game. They're gonna get to the Super Bowl.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: The're gonna No, I'm just talking about these first three games.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: I'm just talking about the first three games we'll get
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: to the Chiefs.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Smart mona by the Chiefs to just throw that game
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: against the Broncos to keep Joe Burrow.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: No doubt, no doubt.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, because the Broncos mock them. But you look
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: at this, how you think Broncos are going to do
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: going to Buffalo?
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: Do you want me to actually talk about it away
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: from the locker room, because I'll tell you exactly if we.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Can talk about some of these games or how it
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: chicken up, I guess, okay, clearly.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: If I'm looking at the Broncos in the Buffalo Bills,
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: and I'll say probably the same thing in the locker
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: room is Bill. The Broncos have not been a great team.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: They win needed to win one of their last three
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: games to make it to the playoffs, and their win
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: came from a Chiefs team that sat all of their guys.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: They're not I think when we get to the playoffs,
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: this is as far as they get. When it comes
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: to the Steelers in the Ravens, it truly depends on
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: the offensive game plan because we've seen the Ravens time
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: and time again. They have an MVP quarterback yet again
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: who's probably gonna win the MVP go in and they
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: kind of change up what they've done in the past
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: to prove something. I don't know what it is. If
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: they stick to a run game and they're consistent. They
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: beat the Steelers, and I think the Chargers clearly clearly.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Beat the Houston Texans. That's how I feel.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: If I'm just looking at all those.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Games feel real good to me.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: As I'm saying it on a Monday afternoon, I'll dive
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: into the numbers a little bit for the locker room,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: but just from a gut feeling standpoint. Usually when I
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: look at numbers is when my bets go wrong. I
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: start to second guests everything. Yeah, but I look at
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: that and that's how I feel.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: And he saw it again this past weekend on Derrick
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Henry's birthday. He give them ball twenty one times mopping roll.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: He's a beast. He's a beast. He's a beast.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Most rushing yards by a running back over the age
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: of thirty in a single season, keep.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Still tapping into that ability and potential at the age
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: he's at is just it is incredible. The only is
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: he the only I think I saw stat the only
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: running back to have nineteen hundred plus yards two years
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. I don't know that'd be.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: That's good said though, because he had like eighteen hundred,
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: then he had the two thousand, and then he had
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: nineteen hundred again.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: This year, Derrick Henry. Maybe I'm talking out of my
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: my ass here, but I saw something is Derek ny
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: is the only running back or the first running back
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: to have two nineteen hundred plus yard seasons correct and
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: again at this age, bro, I think it's it's it's
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: it's awesome. But in the AFC, since we have three
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: AFC West teams, let's talk about the AFC West a
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: little bit. I felk the Broncos, like you could not
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: have had a better year after what has happened over
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: the last come decade with them. You got Nathaniel Hackett,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. Just that gets blown up. Sean Payton comes in.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: They have they have a tough year last year with
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, they go after bow Nick. Sean Payton talks
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: about how this is his guy. Kind of a rocky
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: start at the beginning of the year. But the way
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: that they've they're back after the year, the way that
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: the Broncos have have attacked this season, I feel like
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: they are in a prime. They should feel so happy
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: with the year that they've had. Yeah, whether or not
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: they win this game, it's gonna be tough to win
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: out in Buffalo. They could do it, but you know,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: obviously every team could do it. But I feel like
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Denver should be riding high with the year that they
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: they've had. The Chargers, it's like hardball comes in establishes
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: his culture pretty quickly. They're built on defensive run game.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: You got a lot of guys who are like no
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: names out there on the not no names, but you're
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: not talking about him like the superstars of the league, like.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: The names Joey Bosa, I mean, Khalil Mack.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah and yeah, but Khalil Mack he's like older.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: It's not like, yeah, he's older, but he's still He's
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: still a name that even the most casual family will recognize.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: And then who's my boy linebacker piss missile Denzel Perryman.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Zel Perryman watching him fly around. Uh, but
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: they've had an awesome year is do we know if
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Antonio peers, if he's getting fired or not. I know
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: we're doing this podcast right now on Black Monday. The
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: last thing I saw, He's like, as far as I know,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: nobody said something to me. Nobody has said anything to me.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: There's an interesting I mean Schefter. So Schefter had a
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: nice little thing on NFL Live yesterday kind of going
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: through all the coaches that are on the hot seat,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: and when his name came up, it was either Safer
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: out and they said safe. He said, these things can
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: change it in any moment, But it feels like they're
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: gonna hold on off on it for the time being.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, No, it's Al Davis, right. They talk about him
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: being a very impatient owner. Yeah, Mark Davis fault, My fault,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Mark Davis. They talk about him being very impatient as
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: an owner when you hear all the rumblings of the
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: fans from Raider Nation. But yeah, maybe they hang on
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: to him for another year. Yeah, I don't. Maybe they
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: hang on to him for that for another year. I
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: know a couple of Raiders fans were talking like it
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: could be verable because you have the Tom Brady connection.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think wherever Vrabel goes is going
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: to be huge for that franchise.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It just depends who.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: We saw that he interviewed for the head coaching job
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: a couple of days ago.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's the job the job you want
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know Rogers people are saying, people that are
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: close to him, they were saying, that's his last game
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: in the NFL. Then he does a prescontence, but they
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: must not be that close, and so it just feels
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: the Jets, as always just feel a little uncomfortable if
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: you're dipping your tae back in as a head coach.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I want to see what happens with the Cowboys.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Have they come out and said McCarthy's good or not,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: because that seems like if you want a fresh start
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: on a globally known brand and know that you have
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: enough time to establish your culture, the Cowboys are that team.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: That's what makes the Cowboys such a great feeling as
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: a head coach is because you know, it's not like
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: the Panthers. It's not like Mark Davis where you get impatient.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Jerry Jones is known that family is known to sit
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: by their head coach long after the rest of the
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: world has thought they should go, right because McCarthy. We
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: were sitting there last year going, we think McCarthy should
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: be gone. At least I was saying that I thought
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: I thought it was time for him to go.
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: Jerry Jones is too busy acting in episodes of The Landman.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Right now, you run in a football team. Can we
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: get updates on Mike McCarthy. Can you type in Mike
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: McCarthy other than Jerry Jones Landman, it doesn't matter.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: Show I've never heard of, and is still photo of
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: him laying by a hospital bed.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: That's what he's doing. Can you give you type in
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy. I just see him start typing in Jerry
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Jones land Man. I'm like, all right, this is no
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: update on Mike McCarthy. They're firing them.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Well, we got any news?
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Feels cowboy speculation. What's the ladies about him? Yeah? This
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: stuff probably won't come out for another Should we call schefter?
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: You have his number? Yeah? Give he's a Michigan guy.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Give the show to say, from one Michigan man to another,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I need some intel. Mike Carthy stander going, Mike McCarthy
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: stander going forty four? Of course, Yeah, you know, big
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: cats out there hope and praying for Ben Johnson. Rabes
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: you got uh, I don't know if they're actual, Like
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: it's legit rumors with people speculated with John Gruden, I think,
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: to me, if you're the Bears, Rabel's gonna be an
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: awesome head coach. But to me, if you're the Bears,
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: you want to get somebody who is very much offensive
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: minded or can speak to the quarterback. Because they got Caleb.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: They got Caleb Williams, Like you need a fully invest
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: and buy into that asset, which is Caleb Williams to
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: see if he has it or doesn't have it. He's
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: obviously got a lot of talent ability. Then you got
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: the Jets. Jets will always be interesting. I feel like Vrave,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: he's kind of the first big name on the wave
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: of getting interviews. But I feel like that's just like
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Vrave's doing that. You get your name out there, it's started.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: He's starting to get interviews all over the place. It
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: makes the most sense, it seems like with New England.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, New England got that win yesterday and immediately
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: after the game they did a press release. Robert Kraft there,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: this is the hardest thing I had to do in
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: my career. I've known this gets in two thousand and seven. Yeah,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I mean he was the player. He was a player
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: there and everything, right, But now that he's gone, it's
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: like that one makes too much sense that Ray would
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: just go back to New England. So maybe he goes
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: to Maybe he goes to New England. What's another one
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: still in the AFC? That AFC uh? What is that
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: AFC wes AFC East AFC East Miami Dolphins. You saw
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill? Yeah, that's I.
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: Mean, that's crazy. Here's here's the problem. I like Tyreek
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: a lot, but you got like I'm telling you right now, Tyreek,
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: you are a spoiled boy.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: You're a man.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: For you to say, for you to say, I have
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: this is the first time I ever missed playoffs and
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: you've been in the league for ten plus years. Yeah, Bro,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: I made the playoffs three times. Some guys never make
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: the playoffs like you have been lucky to be a
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: part of an amazing Chiefs team and a Dolphins team
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: that was successful. But Bro, Bro, you just don't know.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: I think you don't know about the heartaches come to
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: the Titans.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Bro. I think It's hilarious that he utilizes that I
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: got to do his best for me and my family,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: as in, I haven't made the playoffs and I'm out
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: of here because I got to do it one year.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Haven't made the playoffs. Your family's not send back like dad,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: what're we doing? We got to get to the playoffs.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: We got to get out of here.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Tyr, we don't care you getting paid that much.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: We want to see We want to see the playoffs.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: We want to see you get that sixty thousand dollars
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: game chat.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I think Tyreek two he's represented by Rosenhaus, is he. Yeah,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: so if he's wanting out, he just signed a three
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: year deal in twenty four. Yeah.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, if somebody wants out a guy like Tyreek,
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: he still got so munch juice he can go every
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: once every time. Would be like, yeah, we'll pay for that.
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: Garrett brought up a good point. That's Tyreek's profile picture
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: on Twitter, right.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's funny. That is funny that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, Yeah, Tyreek, like brother, I understand your frustration.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: This is the first time we've gone through it. This
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: is why losing is the best teacher.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: But how many times you make the playoffs twice. No,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I mean one time twice.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: One time, one time in a twenty year career. Yeah,
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: and I mean I was looking to make it three times.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Like we got thirty years of NFL experience and we've
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: got four playoff runs.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, those motherfuckers on the Chiefs that just get
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: super Bowls and playoffs and and buys and playoffs and
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: super bowls.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: The only place time he needs to go, though, is
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: back to the Chiefs. Incredible, He's got to go back.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: There's going to be a place to go. It's going
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: to go back.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: That insane might put that on a futures bet. Where
• 49:01
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• 50:04
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• 50:07
  Speaker 4: I feel kind of bad because if I'm like, hey,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: I want to know about Mike McCarthy, you're on Bust
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: with the voice of like Taylor is so inappropriate.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just say this is gonna be very inappropriate.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh hey, that's good.
• 50:16
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• 50:20
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• 50:23
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• 50:34
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• 50:36
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• 50:39
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• 50:40
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• 50:40
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• 50:43
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• 50:45
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• 50:47
  Speaker 4: Oh Taylor Adam on.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: TV so so professional. Before we go to the NFC,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I just want to say I feel terrible for Steelers fans.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: They've ended on such a bad note in the regular season.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: They've kind of limped into the playoffs. They've been in
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: such a dilemma because they're always in this spot to
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: where they're like the fifth through seventh seed. They're in
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: the middle of the pack and drafting, they can't get
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: themselves a quarterback. There was a little bit of glimmer
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: of hope with Russell Wilson early in the year. They
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: end up going with Russell over Justin Fields and that
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: just to be in this exact same spot where their
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: defense is good enough. They kind of came alive last week,
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: but they just have no offensive firepower. So I just
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: want to stay before we go to the NFC, my
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: heart goes out to Steelers Nation because it's it sucks. Yeah,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: it sucks, man. I hope they can somehow pull it off.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: You we know we love our boy Artie Smith out there,
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: no doubt, and we love the videos that come through
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: on my timeline of Mike Tomlin given some juice in
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: a team.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Yes, the intensity of those eyes second to none, a.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Guy who's been there for so long. But it's just
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: every year there in this exact same spot. This year
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: seems worse than the others because they're on like a
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: what a four game losing streak? O, man, dude, Lions
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: just beat the breaks off the Vikings. Beat the breaks
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: off the Vikings.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: I mean, played phenomenal four touchdowns.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of things that I'll I'll say, I'll
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: save it for the locker room, but just the Lions
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: beat the breaks off the bikes.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: The weakness, the only weakness they have is having this
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: buy was we are finding out it's such a dangerous
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: place to be unless unless you've been there before, like
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs, like the Well, no, they've been there before.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, unless you've been they've been there before,
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and Chiefs have been there before, so they'll be ready
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: to Yeah.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: These games not as clear cut to me.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: As the A f C games. Has much more depth
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: in the A f C.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sneaky team, dude, the Rams.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Sneaky, sneaky Vikings, sneaky Commanders. Could sneaky have an upset
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: over the Bucks? Yeah, an upside over the Eagles they.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Could, dude, we could be looking at I mean, besides
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: the Rams, every lower seed winning whichever, I'm going to
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: assume that the Rams are an underdog in this game.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: I haven't looked at the line right now.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I think the Draft DraftKings app has the Vikings favored
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: by two and a half over the Rams, So yeah,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: they have underdogs.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: We're gonna have a game that'll be in l a.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, the Vikings and the Lions are battling
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: for the number one spot in the NFC. You know,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: obviously Eagles have too, but these are those are the Vikings.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Eagles and the Lions are the top three teams in
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: the NFC record wise, I know record.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Wise, but don't get don't know the Packers in there too, guys.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like, don't be a prisoner in the moment. Bro. Vikings.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah they got the rassle, but just think of what
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: the Vikings have been doing all year long, no.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Doubt, Bro, I'm telling you Vikings are great.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: I'm rams are plus two for money.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Line gotch got you. Line's moved a little bit.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: So listen, I'm worried about your commanders in this game.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: I'm worried, Baker, Sure, spicy dude. Playing in Florida is
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: a bitch in the wintertime, cause your body's kind of
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: used to the cold, your like lungs have gotten kind
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: of used to it. And then you walk into that
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: humidity a little bit.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: You know what it's like.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: You remember going to Jacksonville December and being like, what
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: the fuck is this? Yeah, you're still dealing with this
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: down here.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: It is different. Yeah, it's tough. No, I'm with you.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Just to me like in the NFC. NFC has all
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: the games, dude, to where it's like, I mean, sixty
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: one is not bad?
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: Is that the sixty one yeah, sixty one, high sixty one,
• 54:45
  Speaker 7: low forty nine.
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that they're never mind the Commanders just
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: everything to say, Commanders having this kind of momentum going
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: into a playoffs for the first time in forever, I
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: mean not since like long before my generation.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: There, like anytime we got in the playoffs, it was
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: just we just sneak in and we were always coined
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: the NFC, or least we say, we'd be saying NFC
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: beast though. I bet your bitch as was run at him,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: run at him.
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those be fun games with their numbers and the Rams.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: They had themselves a little bio away. They said, all
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: their starters Vikings limping into the playoffs after a bad
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: b from the number one.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: The fun part about the Vikings Rams too, as you
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: got O'Connell versus mcvayh. Yeah, they've they've been they've been
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: on the same staff for so long. And again like
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Stafford in the playoffs.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Mode, how's the health of his team right now? Yeah,
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: I think Coop's playing. He's playing.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: I think they're pretty healthy for the most part, and
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: their young un defenses really came along in the back
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: half of the year. It'd be an awesome match. Bring Fisk,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: He's a beast. Brot Su. Yeah, really, that's awesome. It's
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: tough to crack that Pro Bowl line up. Your first
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: year brought Bowers. Oh brought Bowers. He got it unanimous, right,
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Mike Mayer? Yeah, yeah, you had.
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: Some sure, Well correct me if I'm wrong. Fun fact,
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: first time I think in over twenty years that same
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: city teams could play in the Super Bowl of Chargers
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: and Rams.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: It's fun. Fact, it would be fun. That'd be fun.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: That's something that I'll probably start betting right now.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: I saw something. This is like a it's like a
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: pretty good point. Obviously, the Chargers in the AFC, uh
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Rams are in the NFC. What if they were both
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: number one seeds and they both made it to then
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: like the uh division championship. How would that work with
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: it being like like.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: One on Saturday, one on Sunday.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: But normally they're both on Sunday?
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Are they?
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Think that you're talking about Championship week, like NFC champions champion,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: the championship that division, the championship games are both on Sunday.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah they are.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like, how would that work with like filing
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: fans in and out.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: You know, they haven't thought about that at all.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: I know, but that's like it's a cool thing to
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: think about.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: That'd be awesome just to see how flip a coin.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: You know, they just flex one game or they have
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: to break them up.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: But it is cool. But then if you think about it,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the team that played Saturday has that one extra rest
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: day going into the Super Bowl, So it's like, kind
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: of how do you make that even.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: It still could happen, they don't need to be one seeds.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Like if the Broncos made it on their side and
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: the Packers made it on their side both in LA
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: and the Chargers, they both that situation could come up
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: this year. Insane Final four.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I saw that on Twitter. I'm like, that's interesting, Like,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: how would that even work?
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: Going nuts right now? Yeah, somebody's figuring that out. Think
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: about like the Super Bowl halftime show, how quickly they
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: break that ship down all the time. They really they
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: just gotta change some turf paint for them. I felt
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: that would be an easy Yeah, you do you do
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: a noon game and you do a seven pm game.
• 58:30
  Speaker 7: Or I bet they would do one of them at
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: the Coliseum.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, Maybe you're gonna tell a team, Hey,
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: we're gonna do a neutral US home field usc Is Compton. Yeah,
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: in the Colisseum, the Rose Bowls in Pasadena.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: No one gets where they just played the state.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what if they all just play a pick up
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: game of basketball?
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Right? Hey, Before we get into the Francis Ellis interview,
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: thoughts on Titans having a number one overall pick, it
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: was gonna blow it. Yeah, I know. It's like the
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: worst year, especially when you're a team that you know,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: everybody talking Titans need a quarterback.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Bro when it's yeah, and everyone is kind of saying,
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: this is the worst draft class, Like this draft class
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: is not that great. It's not that strong. The quarterbacks
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: Shadrick Sanders. People have been saying first overall pick all
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: year long. Now all of a sudden's reports coming out
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: saying he's not like some teams say, he's not a
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: first round grade.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: There's something.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: There's somebody just like start that people are running.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: That's how shit works, though, there's all this is when
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: we're gonna start to get in the world of smoking mirrors.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: You can have those team making the teams that are
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: slotted like twenty through thirty two in the draft, like
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: a couple of those scouts Conda. Yeah, I don't even
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: have his first round grade, you know what I mean?
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: And that right there can just be a headline or
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: rumor on X Yeah. True, Yeah, I don't know.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Was all interesting first overall pick. We got a lot
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: of picks later in the draft that you can move
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: around with.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Don't We think the number one QB in the draft
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: is cam Ward.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: Though I don't know, dude, he quit halftime.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Bro, It's right, good point, Well you got JP.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: I feel like the city of Nashville needs some buzz
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: and I think they should take Shaudur or Travis Hunter,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: either one of them.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: Like right, was possible in the times, right, I think the.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: Move is to trade it. But if you were to pick,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: I do think you take Shudar or Travis Hunter solely
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: for the buzz of like we gotta get this this
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: city energized again, and those two could do it. And
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: I feel good about Shadur because at the end of
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: the day, like he knows how to prepare like a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: pro and he's been held to a high standard his
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: whole life. Cam Ward, like, I mean, I think he'll
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: be really good. But Shadua like, I don't know. I
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: think he's gonna be a really good NFL.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I think too got good poise. Adam and Taylor, this
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: is so inappropriate. How are you.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: Because right now I'm filming an episode of Busting with
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: the Boys and we were talking, We're like what we
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: what's going on with Mike McCarthy And I was like, well,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: I can call Adam and the Will is like, yeah,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: call Adam. Do you know anything about do you care
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: about if I just put you on speakerphone and Busting
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: with the Boys right now? This is also being recorded,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: so we can cut it.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, all right.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: He just.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: He said, you gotta call me afterwards. Yes, mister Sheffer, Yep, absolutely.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: He said, yeah, yeah, you gotta call me after.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: I think you trade that pic or dude, Hey, what
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: about kirk Cousins.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: You talk about Titans. Yeah, that's definitely a possibility because
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: they they're definitely it seems like they could fuck this
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: whole time. It would take.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: They would take Justin Fields over Kirk Cousins. Neither one
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: is gonna yeah, but that's my point. One can at
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: least run around. But no, I think you. I think
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: you move around with it. I would love to see
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: us get that Penn Sam Darnold, Abdull Carter would be
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: nice to pick up Abdull Carter. The Penn State edge
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: rusher would be sick and a wide receiver.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Is that number eleven for Penn State? Bro? He's like
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: a Parson's out there running around Bro, his motor and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: his speed sideline the sidelines.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: What are you gonna do?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: What's gonna happen with Jeff? Like you have sweat in
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: the middle, Ye, get you an edge? Because what's Harold
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: gonna do?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, he's still gonna be around and sucks.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: That I'm talking about defensive players in the offense put
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: up thirty points twice.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I bet think he'll get I think he'll
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: get a veteran quarterback in the market. I think you
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: have to.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: I think Cali would work better with a vet that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: This could sound weird, but a vet that would maybe
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: have some pushback to be like, no, this is what
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: I think would work.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, he does, he does have Let's go, He's
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: got Landon Nashville, got a couple of his boys. Olivia
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Randall Cobb David Baktiari. Yeah, he's got the bus and
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: on the bus. Friend of the show, who is.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: The guy that was with Aaron Rodgers the other foot
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: Poyer the safety He d m me. He said, I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: saw a locker room. He's like, if you're actually interested
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: in doing ayahuasca, we're setting up this whole entire thing
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: in March, if you'd like to go.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: Dog.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: I talked to Talan about it. She's like, do not
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: go to ayahuasca because she's like that that like mentally
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: alters you forever.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: You come out a new man.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe, but maybe I'm so enlightened. Something else happens
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: for content.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Come on to put any bullied into it.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: I got bullied into calling shefter, Yeah, I could be.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: I got bullied into share my mustache. Shut up, JP,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: I don't want to hear that bullshit it.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about it.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: See this is exactly.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: This is it.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: I really just clicked in my head you're doing it.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five, twenty five you said you did say
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: that is a.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, you're absolutely looking to you. Right, it's right.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: I'll think about it.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me if.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: The Titans place for me to tell you guys, what's
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: going on in my life, and here I am fighting
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: for it.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Makeup for the rest of your life.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: Come on, I don't think change, No, it could.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm teasing. I'm teasing Francis Alice. Hey, this was
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: an awesome episode for everybody that tuned in and listened
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: to Stuke Finer. This one has those vibes because Francis
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: had a lot of big moments throughout his Barcel career
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: as a comedian. He's been uh he was a character
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: entire season one. He will be in season two. But
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: this one, what are we laughing at? You know?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Just sure?
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: But this is an awesome episode. I feel like he
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: doesn't have any long form podcasts where he sat down
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: and kind of talked about his entire career barstool, having
• 1:05:07
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• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: coming back from that, his last year as a whole.
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  Speaker 4: Just to be safe. We won't talk about all right,
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  Speaker 4: Welcome to bus one of the boys. We were talking
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  Speaker 4: before about Saraian Barstool and tonight's episode and whether or
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: not something happens, and so we're not gonna talk about it.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: We'll leave it alone just in case.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: My boy, yeah, I'm thinking.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: You know that movie scene where he's like holding his son.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 8: He's like, my boy, no, no, no, no, what happens there?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 8: Fire He's talking about dead poets society.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking about dea pots society. I don't even
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. You've seen the movie scene.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: It happens in both of those movies.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: One am I like my mean video album, My boy
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: mean video album. It could be when.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he dies in Goblet of Fire as well, but
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: it's possibly Dead Poets Society.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: Do you think Will is watching Dead pote Society? Do
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: you think Will's ever do you think anyone's ever said
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: to Will? Oh, captain, my captain, Will's gone? Yeah, it
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: was captain of Nebraska, That's what he's fucking. I guess
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: they knew I was a captain of Nebraska the Redskins
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: for a year.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: I love it. Man.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: Those are good references and good, very good.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Welcome to bus with the boys friends.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: I'm thrilled to be truly thrilled to be here. I
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 8: was saying to Will. There are very few podcasts for
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: which I would actually fly to do them, and this
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: is one of them. And others would be like Rogan THEO.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: You know, Okay, Tim Dillon short list. By the way,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 8: I'm not I'm not saying I'm getting invited on those.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 8: I'm saying, you know, I put you guys in that
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 8: tier when you when.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: You go and do like tires and you see I mean,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: obviously we're all have a relationship with Shane, but you're
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: a comedian. You're in tires with Shane.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Is there a piece of you.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: It's like I'm getting close to the to the experience.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: To like getting on Rogan. Yeah, I want to if
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 8: we consider Rogan sort of the the black Belt the Mountaintop.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: I think you have to, right, He's the number one podcast,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: like ninety countries, absolutely, so he is the black Belt
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: the Mountaintop.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 8: I it is one of those things where I don't
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 8: I don't want to speak about it. It's it's it's like, uh,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 8: there's a line from Gladiator where he where I think
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 8: it's the original Emperor before he gets killed by his
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: son and he's like there was a time when Roan was,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 8: you know, so delicate that you could just whisper about
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 8: it and it would disappear or something. Yeah, Like I
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 8: don't want to I don't even want want to whisper
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 8: about Rose delicate.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it's in the distance somewhere. You know,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: it might be around there for years.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I've I've you know, I don't really know what
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 8: the row is there. But I'm not going to force it,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 8: that's for sure. I'm not going to ask for favors.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 8: I just know that that is one of those things
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: that needs to happen. Naturally, and it'll happen if it happens.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: Being around Bert and Shane. That's always been their thing
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: because obviously anybody a pedestrian on the street if they
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: got a call was like, hey, go on Joe Rogan experience,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: they would go on Joe Rogan experience. But the guys
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: that have been on, when they see you, whether you
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: talk about wanting to go on the show or not,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: they're like, if you ever see them, don't bring up
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: the show, don't talk about it at all, because that
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: is when you essentually get NNEX for life. Sure you
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: get sent to the.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 8: The Yeah, the Blue Lug ironically. I mean, I've also
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 8: heard stories of people who you know, dropped in did
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: a set at the Mothership just like impromptu or whatever.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: Rogan had never met them before, saw their set, and
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 8: then was like, want to do the show tomorrow? Right crazy,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 8: and it was just that quick and out of the blue.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's how it kind of went down
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: with Jelly Roll too, right, like he met him maybe
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: out at the Mothership and out with them for one
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: night and then literally the next day. Yeah, at that
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: point was like Jilly rules, Yeah, pretty big, just got
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: a donkey.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: Just got a pet donkey? You see that clip? No, yeah,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: his wife bought a donkey yesterday for what?
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Just life?
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: Just when you have everything, what else do you want?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: You want a donkey?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: Do you know what donkeys are supposedly amazing for is
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 8: keeping like coyotes and predators away from the rest of
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 8: your livestock.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, you should get a donkey.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: I got a great Pyerne.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: I don't need a donkey.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: I want That was a conversation though, when we were
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: going through what do we want to protect our goats?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: My first thought with donkeys. The thing with donkeys though,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: was a little more aggressive. They're stronger ship too, Like
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: they'll pick up goats by their neck and just walk
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: around with them for a little bit. They have to
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: walk he put them down.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Wow, Like they have like lock jar or something like that.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 8: Wild they are. I have a terrible donkey story. Actually,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: go ahead, Uh. I have a small place in the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 8: Hudson Valley, New York, and I'll go up there and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 8: it's sort of farm country. And a friend of mine
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 8: from up there had asked if I would go to
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 8: their house to feed their cat while they were traveling.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 8: And I went to the house to feed the cat,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: and I had a small dog with me, our French
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 8: bulldog who just passed away. But he came and they
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 8: have two donkeys, and I let him out of the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 8: car and went and fed the cat. And he was
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 8: barking at the donkeys. And there was a fence, just
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 8: a wood fence that was easily you know, you could
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: go under it, and he's barking at them from the edge.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 8: They were out in the middle of the field, and
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: then he went under and started chasing them, and they
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 8: were running away from him, running away from him, and
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: he was running them in laps, small tiny French bulldog,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: and then they all of a sudden just were like,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: wait a minute, we're not bothered by this fucking rat.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: And they stopped and they turned and they started trying
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 8: to stamp on him. And I watched this and I
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: was like, this is it. It's over. They're gonna cave
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: his head in with their gigantic donkey hoo.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Now, are you jumping over the fence to go in there?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, at that point I did, and he quickly was like, oh,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 8: I bit off more than I could too, and I
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 8: ran over and he came to me because but but
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: one of the blows glanced off of his fur such
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: that you could actually see the hoof print coming down
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: the side of his coat.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: No shit, Yeah, war scars.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: So you saw two donkeys chasing your French bulldogs. Well
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: they turned the tables, Yeah, turned the tables. You see
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: this happen and you actually went in there.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: To fight the donkeys.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 8: Yes, because my wife at the time, who is now
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: my ex wife, had I told her. Unfortunately, Koji has
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 8: passed away. He was curb stomped by a donkey. Right,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 8: that's just the type of thing that, you know, leads
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 8: to little intimacy for quite some.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Time, a long dress. Two questions came from that. Yeah,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: well you you made it out of that dust up
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: without a concussion?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 8: I did. Yeah, the donkeys knew not to fuck with me.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Do you have helmets? Yeah? In case you're good?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 8: Good God.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: You say you about the concussion? Yeah, yeah, I said,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: So you made it out of there without getting a concussion. Yeah,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: that was gonna be my one of my questions. Great,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: what's up with your head?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah it's not great. It's hanging on by a string.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: It's so smart, so quick witted. Yeah, yet a pillow
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: essentially a pillow.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: Would you say in that clip, is this brain made
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: of paper?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 8: Yes, our ginger's brains made and.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: Which on looking at back of people like these dumb
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: bubs like I guess they're right the way I was
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: the way.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: I know you didn't know that I've had a bunch,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 8: I mean, have I ever? I don't know if I've
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 8: told you guys this story about the time that I
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 8: got beaten up by the lobster man in Maine. She
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 8: was really bad. I got really, really hurt. I told
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 8: that on a man chains. Have you heard that story?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: What do you say it in your set? Yes? Yes? Yeah,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: well you and all the boys you guys were getting
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: after it.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Well I was trying to stop the fight and
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 8: then they just thought I was part of the thing
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 8: and they beat me up. So that was one. I mean,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 8: that was a really bad one. That broke my nose
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 8: so badly, uh that even when it heeled, I couldn't
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 8: breathe out of my left nostril. And I didn't know
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 8: that until years later when I started doing cocaine and
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 8: I couldn't get any up. The left nostril tell a problem,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 8: and it was embarrassing because people were like, dude, you
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: need to alternate nostrils or you're going to deviate your septum.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 8: And I was like, well, that would give me an
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 8: excuse to get a rhinoplasty without making it seem like
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 8: it's for esthetic purposes, which is exactly what I was
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 8: looking for, because nobody wants a guy to get a
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 8: nose job.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: You know, from cocaine without excuse.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 8: So anyway, the point is that was one. Then lacrosse
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: I had like two or three, one of which resulted
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 8: in me being taken off the field in an ambulance.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 8: And that was the worst one. That was the word
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 8: it's fine.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Are you laughing at that?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 8: It's fine?
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: Like it's a real sport. No, I know, I don't know.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: It's not really real sport, but it is.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: It's a real sport. Let me say this, you a
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: scholarship for it?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 8: No, they don't do that at ivy League school. There's
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 8: no athletic scholarships, only need based.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: But hold on is like a loophole.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: Like if you're a good lacrosse player, you're a good
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: football player, basketball player, whatever it is.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 8: You'll get in.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: You'll get in, but you won't get money. Yeah, you
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: don't need the grades at the.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a little more. There's a little more.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: Leans switch of muggles and wizards, Like essentially the athletes
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: are really the muggles.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 8: So they would let a mud blood in.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, okay, not to get no, yeah, fair enough,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: not to get racial.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 8: But yeah, they'll they'll, they'll kind of give you a
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 8: little more wiggle room on academics. But you know, I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 8: wasn't far off academically.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, just a little bit.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: So you got you got ambulance cart it off?
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah that one. Yeah, what happened? Stick to the head.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 8: No, I was hit and then I was hit. I
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 8: took a shot, like a shot on goal. I think
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 8: I jumped and shot, and then a defender while I
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 8: was in the air hit me and I like imagine
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 8: a receiver going up for a pass. And I came
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 8: down and the back of my head hit the turf
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: as hard as you know, just whiplash, bang, and I
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 8: had a seizure from it. No ship, and that's why
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 8: they called the ambulance.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Damn. I don't, I don't. I'm not like.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 8: In my head trauma.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck, you know, just yes, exactly, exactly.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 8: So at that at the point is is that I
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 8: avoid now, I avoid activities that might induce head trauma.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 8: I don't play like men's league lacrosse. I don't do
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 8: any of that stuff. I don't even really play like.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: I won't even play men's league basketball anymore. And so
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 8: heading into that challenge, I saw what it was going
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 8: to be, and I thought it was a joke. I
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 8: was like, surely there must be some.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Catch, especially the way the teams are divvied up.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 8: My god, you know, you put the fucking monstars on
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 8: one team and then a bunch of you know, fucking
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 8: muggle brained moron. I can't wait.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: So you tell this story and just the context with
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Biz and everything else, because in my mind, like, you're
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: an athlete in my mind, so I'm thinking, like, all right,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: if we can just get Francis, he's probably he's gonna
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: be their force. But then when we were banged up
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: talking out later that night, it was I was laughing
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: as hard as I've ever laughed listening to him tell
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: this entire story about going up against Biz.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, so you know, yeah.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: You and you and Wit were the two people. You're like,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: I really got to worry about that.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Man, you guys watch wit. I mean it's like, okay, yeah, but.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: With to me, hockey player they have great center of balance.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: I've had a little scuffle with who's the guy you hate,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: James Neil. I've wrestled him and he's he's got it,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: And so I just thought to myself, like, hockey players
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: really are like that when it comes to balance.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could be sneaky.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 8: Well, that was what I said immediately. You know, if
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 8: you asked yourself, is there some body of work that
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 8: would lend itself to preparing for this job challenge, which
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 8: is physical combat on poor footing? My god, you know,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 8: hockey enforcers right at the top of the list. I
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 8: don't know what could be better. Uh So maybe one
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 8: of those like Japanese game show guys that like stands
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 8: over the water and like runs and I don't know,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 8: And uh so, sure enough, my first my first opponent
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 8: is Kelly Keegs, And I'm like, oh, thank goodness, you know.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Uh and as you're thinking too, like I'm like the
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: strongest gullery. They're gonna put me up against all these enforces.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because before the show you were talking about how
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: you've been really on your health. You've been moving around,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 4: you've been doing your cold touch you essaisally were being
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: your character from Tomas Calves are incredible and beautiful.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, hey, well sculpted body. Yeah, that's that's a great frame.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: I got that from my dad.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: You don't say, Dad, look at us. You should see
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: day for the little pencils day.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 8: Thanks to our father. So, yeah, what happened to your dad?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Well, well, he's uh, he's actually lost a lot of weight.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: Used to be a bodybuilder, used to fight a lot,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: wasn't out haulic for an extended period of time, but
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: that is now he's now sober. So yeah, he's doing
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: all right, He's doing better. He's doing way better.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 8: Good heavens.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was quite a caniform.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 8: I asked it.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: I knew.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 8: What if his dead was dead, would have been easier
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 8: than that. Whatever that thing was that.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: We wake up in the alcoholic Yeah, we'd have to
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: go to a local moteil in the middle of the night.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: But yeah, he's doing a lot better now. I'm so
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: thrilled for both of you. Thrilled, Yeah, so thrilled for
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: both of you.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: Uh so yeah, So then I my second one I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 8: get is is biz?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: And before with Keigs, was there a piece of you
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: that's like I have to win this if I go? Yeah,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: for sure, So there's there's some nerves there.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 8: But I also I'm I would. I love Kelly. She's
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 8: a friend of mine, and I was like, you know,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: there's a way to do this that's not barbaric, and
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 8: I so I just she she kind of mentioned said
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 8: something under her breath like please don't hurt me, and
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 8: I was like, we can make it this easy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 8: I was like, what's in it for you?
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 8: So I just I just nudged her and that was fine,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 8: and and uh, you know, that was totally fine. And
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 8: then and then next up, I get BIZ and I'm
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: standing up there and there you guys started this macho,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 8: fucking mating call thing of who's gonna be the bitch
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 8: that wears the head gear and the mouthguard? And you
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: guys were like, fuck that, I'm having unprotected jousting sex,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 8: no condom on my head, let's raw dog each other
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 8: to death. And I get up there, I put the
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 8: helmet on like a fucking pussy, I've got the mouth
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 8: guard and being like and then there's Biz, just clear eyed,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 8: just fucking vulnerable, scar tissue around the face, a halo
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 8: of wrath protecting him from whatever meaningless blows I might
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 8: deliver with my PBC pipe wrapped in foam. You guys
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 8: keep saying it was a pillow. That thing had real
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 8: structural integrity under the casing. It looks worse for me,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 8: but it is it had it had case. Yeah, yeah
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 8: it did, so, he.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Said, a dumb brain we are. He's using funny words.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Its explaining in such d Yeah, just the what he's
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: talking about. We're just like, oh, we're having fun, go ahead,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: keep talking.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 8: Before the record, before I went up, I turned to
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 8: people on my team and I was like, this is
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 8: a bad idea, if this is what we think it is.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 8: I have a history of concussions. I don't think I
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 8: should do this. And then they're like uh huh, huh huh,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 8: And you could almost just hear them being like, you're
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 8: out right if we lose and you don't participate, bye.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: So I was like, all right, I.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 8: Mean I'll take it, and then uh I get up there.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 8: There's Biz, no mouthguard, no headgear, just veins popping out
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 8: of his forehead. Somehow he's flexing his face. I've never
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 8: seen someone do that before. And I said, in the moment,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 8: I was like, I felt like I was staring down
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: Miss Peach's alcoholic stepfather, just a fucking pit bull that
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 8: abused its daughter in human form, you know. And there
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 8: he is, and I'm just like, this is a disaster,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 8: this is my nightmare. We're so close. Yeah, we were
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 8: so close, and they blow the whistle or whatever, and
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 8: I mean he'd hit me twice from both sides before
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 8: I had swung. And I get off the thing. I'm like, yep,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 8: I can't hear, can't hear anything, just and people are like, good, try,
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 8: good try, and I'm like, did I a Yeah? And
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 8: then I started feeling sick and I was like, oh, man,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 8: if I throw up, that sucks and that'll be embarrassing.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 8: So I immediately knew I had a concussion. I know
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 8: the symptoms. Luckily, I've had a range of them, and
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 8: this one, to me felt like it wasn't. I wasn't
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 8: so discombobulated, but I knew I was concussed, and uh,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 8: I didn't want to bring the fucking production to a
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 8: screeching halt. I didn't want it. But I also was like,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 8: I need I need to get some I need to
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 8: get looked at.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, get a peak. Yeah, I just have
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: it checked out.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: And they brought in an EMT. We did a bunch
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 8: of concussion testing and then they like they filmed that,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: which I was like, this feels where's my blue tent?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: You know, where's my privacy?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 8: What's going on here? And then they were like, well,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 8: we couldn't release any of the footage because of HIPPA
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 8: And I was like, well, then why did you film
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 8: it just to.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Make you feel comfortably? Yeah, they're doing tests on you.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: Follow my finger, yeah, give me the give me the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: months of the year backwards exactly.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 8: And she she was like, yes, you have a concussion.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 8: It is my advice that you go to the hospital
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 8: to get a cat scan to rule out a brain bleed.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 8: And I would you imagine if you had a brain
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 8: bleed from that, I mean, that would have been bad
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 8: for everybody. And I didn't want. I didn't want that.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 8: I didn't want I didn't want it to come back
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: poorly on the show. We were so in the middle
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 8: of it, you know what I mean. At that point,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 8: there was so much momentum. Everyone was so bought in
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 8: h and my team had lost, so I knew, you
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 8: know you immediately had that thought of like, if I
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 8: miss a single secretive conversation, I'm toast right, And even
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 8: while I was being evaluated for like forty five minutes,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 8: I was like, they're conspiring. I'm out of here. Yeah,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 8: this is bad. And I she wanted me to go
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 8: to the hospital. I was like, I don't want to
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 8: do that. And it's not because I'm trying to be
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 8: a martyr or something like that. I just I hate
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 8: going to the fucking hospital. I hate it. When I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 8: was in seventh grade, I had a really bad staff
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 8: and infection in my ankle joint which led to sepsis,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 8: got some scars, well whatever, I'm not going to show you,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 8: and yeah, and I had to spend a month in
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 8: a hospital for that, and I was this little kid
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 8: and it just fucking left me.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: I hate hospitals.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 8: So I didn't want to go. And then she was like,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 8: all right, well, then you have to sign a thing
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 8: that makes me say that I gave you the advice
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 8: to go, and you're not going on your own, you know, volition.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 8: So I signed that and then we continued. I think
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 8: I got voted out the next day. And then I
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 8: don't really want to give away too much, but I
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 8: think the story is worth telling quickly. I'm in the house, right,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 8: the sequestered house. They had a basketball hoop, so I mean,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 8: I'm sequestered in the house. They had a basketball hoop
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 8: in the backyard. I'm standing there talking to somebody and
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 8: a ball someone's just playing horse or something. Ball bounces
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 8: off the rim hits me in the head and it
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 8: was like someone just unplugged a laptop. I was having
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 8: a conversation and I do not remember what I was saying.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 8: I stopped talking, and I think I was talking to
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 8: I won't say who I was talking to, but oh no,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 8: I can say it was Ron because Rone was also
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: it's known that he's out of the game. And we
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 8: were talking and he was like, wait, you were saying
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 8: and I was like what, and I had no idea
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 8: what we'd been talking about. And that was when they
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 8: were like all right, and then my face turned green.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 8: So then they called an actual doctor and he was like,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 8: I'm taking you to the er. And I go to
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 8: the Chicago Er. We're in the middle of Chicago, and
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 8: in the emergency room in Chicago. I'm not making this up.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 8: A prison brawl had just taken place nearby. There were
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 8: fifteen to twenty prisoners shackled to their gurneys, screaming at
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 8: each other but needing medical attention. And I'm sitting among them.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 8: This isn't even in the waiting room. This is in
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 8: that area in the emergency room where there's like sort
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 8: of rooms that have curtains that are pulled, so there's
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 8: like a lot of elderly people slowly dying, but also
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 8: for some reason, a prison outbreak of enraged people. And
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 8: I'm sitting there waiting for my cat scan, and each
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 8: prisoner has a police officer assigned to stand over them,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 8: and the prisoners are shaken. They're like my own once
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 8: I get out of here, you know, And I'm like,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 8: you're not. And they're yelling at the cups who are
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 8: just like laughing about it. And it was the most
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 8: upsetting weight for medical treatment I've ever had. It was
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 8: it was so unpleasant, and I luckily I had brought
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: my headphone, so I'm just sitting there playing chess on
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: my phone and listening to show Path and because I
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 8: was trying to find like peace, and it was because
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 8: it was so violent in this area. And after their
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 8: cat scan machine, they were so delayed because someone had
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 8: kept telling them if you move in a cat scan
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 8: at all, you have to start over, right, And this
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 8: woman apparently was freezing cold and kept asking for more
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 8: blankets and should get like five minutes in and then
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 8: they'd have to restart. That's what they told me. And
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 8: so I was like, it took me an hour just
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 8: sitting among this you know, prison riot to finally get
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 8: to the cat scan. I did no brain bleed, and
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 8: then back at the house, back at the house, which
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 8: was really fun, by the way. So that's the whole story.
• 1:29:26
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  Speaker 4: Enjoyed your time more in the competition or at the house.
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  Speaker 8: House by a mile?
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 8: The house was fun and it's tough. I don't want
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 8: to like say why because I think that will indicate
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 8: who ends up being in the house, But uh, the
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 8: house was really really fun.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: Vibes were high, vibes got really high. Yeah.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 8: It was just one of those things where like as
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 8: soon as people were kind of out of the game,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 8: you did the debrief and then everyone was like kind
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 8: of able to relax again and just be like that
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 8: was fun.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're in it, trapped in those walls. Dude, yeah.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, is the same as the concept of time when
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: you're in there truly, Like you could have your phone,
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: you can see what's going on in the world, but
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: you are solely focused on.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: What's going on, and you're you're paranoid the entire time,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: the entire time.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And the thing that's crazy, like watching the show
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: now where we're at at this point, before this next
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: episode comes out or anything, Like, I am under the
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: understanding that our entire team is so locked up, and
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: I'm watching these episodes and they're like, we got to
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: get out the big three, starting with Taylor, and I'm
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: like bouncing around, like, bro, we just keep winning, we
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: might make it to the end of this whole thing.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 8: I mean, I had the I lived under the exact
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 8: same delusion, which was that winning challenges was the key
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 8: to everything, and if you perform well in the challenges,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 8: you will make yourself valuable. Clearly, you know the social aspect,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 8: This is not a game that is won by like
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 8: the biggest strongest athlete.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: The thing that bugs me about where the game's at
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: now is how completely worthless stave Portnoy is like not like,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: is no help in the strategic mental part of it
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: like puzzles can't even figure out a child's like blocks.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: Stacking the blocks and pulling them through like lost them
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: the game because when Rea gets the puzzle, she almost
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: catches up to our team. And he he really can
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: do nothing. He can't throw, he can't let his shoulder
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: or his arm over his head. Truly worthless to be there.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a worse off asset than Mincy.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: The only yes, I think if you put Mincy and
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: Dave in an athletic competition, Mincy wins that competition.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 8: Well, was the puzzle aspect too, Dave, Dave, that drove
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 8: me so nuts when he was he kept it was this.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 8: We put him so early in the shape because we
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 8: knew he wouldn't be great at it, so we figured
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 8: give him the easy part because, as you guys know,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 8: the shape got moregan more competent.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: However, not really, not really, It's just how do I
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: recreate that space.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: And then get it close and then get it and.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: Just wiggle it in? Yeah, and he had a nut.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: Hey, that's when we were operating on our finest flotick.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 8: He did it. He kept doing it backwards. It was
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 8: as if he was reading it in like the Arabic
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 8: alpha that I think they read it right to left anyway,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 8: and I had to kind of be like no other
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 8: I was yelling like no other way, you know, and
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 8: it would knock over and they'd go and he would
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 8: rearrange it the wrong way again, and I'm like, did somebody.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know his parents play with him as a child.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 8: And after that challenge, we lost so specifically because of
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 8: Dave that I started being like, look, there's real reason
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 8: that we should get him out. It's not even mean
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 8: he's a liability. We have more team challenges coming. Everybody right, right,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 8: And everyone was like, no, you're wrong.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: And now you're fucked.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And I was like, I didn't even I didn't
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 8: even compute for me that mentioning that we should take
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 8: him out would then put a gigantic target on my back.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 8: I was like, he lost us, that we'd all be
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 8: safe if not for him. And so let's because you.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: Were in the room talking to re about it, and
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: then when you brought it up and then it goes
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: to your confession and you're like, I think I'm fucked.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: Yea by king from.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: Good awareness, good awareness and know that you're fucked yea,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: it is crazy. It's crazy also watching him back and
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: seeing how like one little thing would cause a like
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: snowball effect. I went up to Rico and I just like,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: as a joke in my own head for nobody else
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: but myself, was like, hey, here in your name and
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: then he sees who'd you go in the room with
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: the other football player?
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: Aaron comes up and taps on the shoulders, I can
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: I get you here for a second. First time talking
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Aria in the entire game. So I kind of just
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: going through the stairs because like I don't want name
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: by see it because I'm trying to keep the lowest.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to stay low and not say right.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: And Rico sees me and he's like, hey, he runs
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: the day. Hey, Will and Rarian like they started to
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: talk and he's like, you know, somebody's like, I don't.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: Know, Taylor mentioned my name in the whole thing. Taylor
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 4: and I just randomly said him, and so that caused
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: Rico to spiral tell Dave and Arian's out.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: He's like, I think all the athletes are getting together.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I think I spoke to Aery like
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 4: at the beginning, like a be sticking for on a
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: tavy and that was basically it.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 4: Also the amount of politicking that took place before the show,
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: Jersey Jerry calling.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 8: He called you, Yes he did, and he called you.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: Didn't call me?
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: He did. I got him, got, I got him got.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: He's in the wrong drive, dude. He before the before
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: the first challenge, he looks at me and goes, you
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 2: do well, you're in.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking the dawn. It's the craziest thing in the world. Like, Jay,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: what makes you think you're calling the shots in this group?
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: Why? Like because you went far in the last one
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Like that's a target on your.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 8: Back, right, I think so too. I think uh, I
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 8: think previous seasons and your performance in them, it can
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 8: only really hurt you, right unless you were just like
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: a nothing in the first first one.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: Did you find like, what was the difference is for you?
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: Because you also did what the most dangerous game? Yeah,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: the diabolical speech.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 8: A yes, Yes, that game was my first experience doing
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 8: any of these reality game shows at Barstool, and I
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 8: went in very naive. I didn't know anything about it.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 8: I kind of was just like I thought I was
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: probably running the show every time. That game was interesting.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 8: I don't know if you guys watched any of it,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 8: but if you want to challenge, you got to go
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 8: sleep in a comfortable house for the night. Yeah, and
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 8: then the rest of us would sleep in this horrible
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 8: tent and it was thirty four degrees we were in
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 8: the mountains of Colorado, so it was freezing. You didn't
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 8: sleep at all. You were just miserable. You didn't get
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 8: to shower, and but it was all And then the
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 8: person who was in the house got to select one
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 8: other person to bring with them. But it became the
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 8: case that.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: And then those two were immune.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 8: They were immune for that night. But everybody that was
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 8: down at the campsite would be like, yeah, tomorrow, we're
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 8: voting one of them. Mountain just automatically comfortable because they
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 8: weren't there, and they weren't there to like defend themselves,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 8: and so you kind of started getting to a point
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 8: where you're like, I don't really want to be in
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 8: the house if I want to go along in the game.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 8: And each night at the at the campfire, I would
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 8: just very clearly say to the four fives, four three
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 8: people there, I'd be like listen, if everyone wants to
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 8: remain in the game another day, and this group right
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 8: here can ensure that tomorrow, provided that one of these
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 8: people in the house doesn't win the challenge. Do you guys,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 8: do you see how simple that is? And they were like,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 8: oh yeah, so that just that just carried for like
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 8: four eliminations until the people wisened up and were like,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 8: Francis has been playing, well we need to get him out.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 8: And I didn't see that coming and I was I
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 8: was pretty banged up over it. It really affected me
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: and people watching it's so easy to say like, wow,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 8: I mean, why don't it's a game? How could you
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 8: not get the game? Well, you know, it's not really
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 8: a game. It's a game, I think on actual Survivor
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 8: because they're just random people thrown together, people that.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: Don't know each other. They get scrubbed to where they
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: they know that they've had all had z zal communication
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: with each other before they're all put together.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 8: Right. Our game is affected by interpersonal relationships that have
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 8: been determined for years of working together. It's it's affected
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 8: by things like contract status, standing at the company, longevity,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 8: power structures like all of that is a huge and
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 8: It's what makes I think Surviving Barsol so compelling. It's
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 8: because you know, people be like, why wouldn't you get
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 8: Dave out? And it's like, well, because I don't want
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 8: him to dislike me, since I have two months left
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 8: on my employment here and like healthcare matters, you know,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 8: especially why the game I like it though I like it.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: You like, you get afraid of somebody not keeping your
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: job because you kicked them out of a game.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 8: Well, I think that it. It makes it, really, it
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 8: makes getting him out that much more explosive if you
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 8: do it. You know, the previous season, Big Cat first
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 8: guy out, Dave out a couple later, Like.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 4: These are very huge pieces to.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 8: Fall, and they created ripple effects that lasted for a while,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 8: you know what I mean.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: And they both hated Jerry for a minute.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: He did for a while, actually still hated him and
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: even wanted to get him out in the game.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: He was mad that Jerry got out. He's like, I
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: wanted that blood. But Jerry is still a part of
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: the company.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 8: And that's because, you know, I think Dave has the
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 8: business sense to say, like, well, this is still a
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 8: very good employee who's created great work in spite of
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 8: what he did to me in this bubble, right, but
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 8: other people are not that quick to forgive, and those
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 8: grudges that carry from one season to the next are
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 8: a major I mean, look at look at how they
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 8: did the like Marty mush Riha Hank I had, Like
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 8: that's a major piece. You don't see that on Regular Survivor.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something that I was gathering the pieces throughout.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 4: But I didn't have no idea. I knew that people
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 4: were pissed at Marty. I knew something or something Hank,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 4: something happened. There was a team Hank thing for a while,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 4: and I just saw on the internet. I was like,
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 4: all right, cool, it seems like they're going through something. Yeah,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: and then they get there and find out the things
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: right that we're going through and that will inevitably be
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 4: told to everybody. I was blown the fuck away, like
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: this shit actually happened, and and she is crazy.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, my face.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: You'll see, is like, oh my god, that is fucking crazy.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: And everybody else is probably sitting there like, yeah, this
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: is We've known this for four years or how long
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 4: it's been going on.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but my head's been in to say, like an Ostrich.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: So I have no idea.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 8: So that is a disadvantage.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not knowing.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 8: That type of stuff. And you I think you and
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 8: I went into the game. I have a better awareness
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 8: of it. But but you know, going into the game,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 8: you were like, I'm going to dominate this game through
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 8: winning challenges. I'm just gonna exert my That's my guess
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 8: is like you were like, I'm gonna create all audiences
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 8: with people that I know in try us. And you
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 8: banded with you know, Will and the athletes and stuff
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 8: like that, and you guys, that worked. You guys won
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 8: so many challenges in a row. But while that was happening,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 8: these people who are like survivor enthusiasts and are really
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 8: good at the like cloak and dagger aspect of the game,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 8: we're just fully like, we're gonna get Taylor, and then
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 8: we're gonna get this person, and then we're gonna get
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 8: this person. And in a way, winning all those challenges
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 8: actually might have hurt you, guys, because it just didn't
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 8: make you create you know, you didn't have to be
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 8: as nimble, you didn't have to reform new alliances based
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 8: on who was getting out the Uh.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole the winning a bunch. Well, I think
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: it's kept me in the game so far because.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 8: You might need to cut that. Although again, if you
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 8: are out, all of this.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: Is fair game.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: All of it's fair game.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 8: So we'll just see tonight. I'll also text Rob right
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 8: after we're done and see what episode it is.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 4: My strategy and going into the game not having a
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: bunch of alliances that I knew there were some people
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: that I was cool with. I want to get Dave
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: and Dan out, That's what I wanted. I wanted their
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: blood on my sword. And I thought to myself, Okay,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 4: Barstools essentially high school.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: There's so many clicks. There's the cool Kid Club, there's that.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: I was like, if I try to like associate myself
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 4: with the Coolkid Club, I'm at the bottom of that
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: total poll where I get sniped pretty quickly. So I thought,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 4: if I can get like the band of misfits of
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: Barstool that are in the group that are kind of
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: like on the outskirts of like the cool Kid Club,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 4: and get everybody together, like we could run the entire thing,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 4: and you know, it works.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: Out the way it does. It works out the way
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: it does.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 8: I think if there's a subsequent season in a year
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 8: or whatever, my guess would be that the Band of
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 8: Misfits will actually have a lag up that people.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: Will say, I stop being afraid, though they wouldn't be
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: because to your point, there's a resume that has now
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: been built which helps create that target for for everybody else.
• 1:43:00
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• 1:43:04
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  Speaker 4: Back to the episode, are you and Rudy Good?
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah? Totally. And And that was one of those things
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 8: where when I got out of the game, I was
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 8: just so upset and felt so shocked that because Rudy,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 8: like we truly bonded over these nights of sleeping in
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 8: the cold campfires, just like there was so much bonding.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 8: I won him a challenge by like hacking the challenge.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 8: I saw something where I was like, well, if Rudy
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 8: I can actually help him win, and I'm gonna tell
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 8: him right before that I'm gonna have him win and
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna contribute to his thing, and then he'll win
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 8: and he'll choose me to sleep in the house with
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 8: him and we'll both be safe, which is exact what
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 8: he did. And so we were like just really vibing
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 8: and having a great time, and then he voted for me,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 8: and I was astounded, a stounded, that's so boy of
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 8: mine could do that and I get voted out of
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 8: the game. Also, we had to, like we just sleep
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 8: in I'm not kidding you, the worst hotel that I
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 8: have slept in in my life. I mean, there were
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 8: times when my parents weren't doing as well as they
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 8: are now, and as kids, we would we would stay
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 8: in ship places like you know, fucking run down motels
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 8: on road twenty four hour road trips up to our
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 8: lake house in northern Canada, and it.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: Sounds weren't doing that well. Is around a road kip
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: store a lake house we were, We.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 8: Drove twenty two hours.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: What were your struggles like in camp place outside of
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 4: New York City?
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 8: You know, I think I think it's worth like sixty
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 8: grand that that place, Not even kidding you. Yeah, so
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 8: my pointing, I've stayed in shit hotels. This place we
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 8: had to stay after we got voted out of that game.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: Was the worst.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 8: There were so many hairs on the bed women's long hairs,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 8: and they looked like they'd been pulled out by force.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 8: Like these were not shed hairs. These were like, yeah,
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 8: hairs like that you could see the follicle. Yeah, there
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 8: was intent at the base, clumps, clusters, chemo patient hairs.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 8: So anyway, it was terrible. It smelled bad and uh.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 8: But then like within twenty four hours you're kind of like, oh, okay,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 8: I'm back to normal. But I spent that morning writing
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 8: this speech, and then as we were like heading to
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 8: the thing, I was like, yeah, I wrote something, but
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 8: it feels a little over the top now. And Pat
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 8: from out and about was like, you have to do it.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 8: You have to do it for the show. And I
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 8: was like, ah, I just don't know if I feel
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 8: it that much anymore, and he was like, find it,
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 8: find it within yourself. So I did this speech and
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 8: it was pretty brutal, and then we ended the show.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: And I just went up to Rudy and I was like,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: I just I'm.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 8: Sorry, like I hope you know we're good, and he
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 8: was like, oh my god. But I think it was
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 8: it was.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: It created a diabolical moment in the barstool Universe.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, how'd you get in?
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: How'd you get in? The barsel? Didn't you do? Like
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: the uh the American Idol style?
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 8: The first season of Barstool Idol. I had been doing
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 8: stand up and tutoring for like six years, and I
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 8: was just doing you know, open mics and then check
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 8: spots and then.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: That Harvard degree. We probably made a good living with it.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding you. People are like you imagine
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: you imagine graduating from Harvard only to be a comedian
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: or only be a you know, personality barstool. It's like
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: nothing could have been more valuable to my career trajectory
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: because I got out of school, didn't really know what
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: I wanted to do. I'd done some stand up my
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: senior year, loved it, and I was like, all right,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: fuck it, I'll move to New York and give this
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: a shot for two years and if it doesn't work out,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: I'll you know, take myself more seriously or whatever. And
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: I quickly got a job tutoring, and you know, I
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: was tutoring like this standardized test that like seventh and
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: eighth graders would take to apply to boarding schools called
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: the s SAT And there's a lot of schools in
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: New York that go K to eight and so kids
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: have to apply out and there's just this huge, like
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: private school community on the Upper East Side where everyone
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: takes that test and the parents take it as seriously
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: as the SAT for college, so they'll pay anything.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 8: And I was getting referred from one client to the
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 8: next being like, we have a tutor. He's this Harvard
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 8: Lacrosse bro who, like our kid, is obsessed with and
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 8: is tutoring the test like every other tutor was like
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 8: I'm artsy, fartsy old woman, you know, like who was
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 8: like a poet on the side and trying to support
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 8: their poetry but like poetry. Yeah, And meanwhile, like you know,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 8: I'd come over and like brow it up. We'd hit
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 8: the pantry after school, eat a bunch of grapes, three sons,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 8: and then we'd get to the vocap list and it
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 8: was awesome. It was like the best job in the world,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 8: you know, dunk garus just being a kid again. And
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 8: uh I got to a point where I was charging
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 8: three hundred bucks.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: An hour for that. Oh my good, I had.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 8: I had a wait list, so my I had a
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 8: weight list so long that I actually had to hire
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 8: friends of mine who were like trying to be actors
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 8: or musicians or comedians or whatever, and teach them how
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 8: to tutor the test and then I would assign them
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 8: to students and I would take a cut of what
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 8: they were making. And then I actually just started my
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 8: own company, a tutoring you just kept doing this. Well,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 8: that was a kind of a hard call, but it
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 8: was always in my mind, like I'm going to do
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 8: this as a means to and end until I can
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 8: theoretically support myself in comedy, right, But it was a
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 8: great job. I made like one hundred and forty five
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 8: grand a year, and I didn't have to work in
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 8: the summer, like the whole summer didn't work and like
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 8: the teachers dream, Yeah, it was fucking awesome. And and
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 8: you know, just worked like four after school, four to
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 8: like eight o'clock. And then I would hit like, you know,
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 8: three kids in a short radius. I would schedule them,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 8: if they like lived within a block of each other, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 8: and then I would go to stand up after that
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 8: and do like you know, shitty open mics or then
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 8: I got.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: You get to sleep in because the work day didn't
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: start till four.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I tried to, like I tried to keep my
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 8: shit together and take myself seriously. Like it was hard.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 8: I mean, and you know, in the absence of like, yeah,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 8: I could have slept till noon, but that would have
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 8: driven me crazy. So I did that. And then I
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 8: finally found I saw a thing for the barsol Idol.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 8: They were like, we're looking for talent. And this was
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 8: still kind of like in a young phase of the company.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 8: Now did you know about them before you get Yeah,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 8: I've been a fan. I loved I loved the writing.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 8: I liked reading Kevin and Big Kat Dave. I loved
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 8: reading those blogs. And this would have been like end
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 8: of twenty seventeen is when I saw the thing, I think,
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 8: and then maybe it was end of twenty sixteen. And
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 8: then in like January of twenty seventeen, I had sent
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 8: in a stand up tape replying to the email and
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 8: they were like, yep, you can come audition. So because
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 8: apparently there were like two thousand emails that they can't,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 8: they got and ninety five percent of them were like listen,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 8: you know, I don't have any experience, but I'm a
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 8: huge barstool fan, I'll do whatever it takes. I'll learn
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 8: what I have to do, and then like a handful
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 8: where like, here's some relatively related work that I've done
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 8: that might lend itself to this job. So because I
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 8: sent a stand up tape, they I don't even know
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 8: if they watched it, but they were like, oh, he's
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 8: an actual comedian.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 8: Then I went in and did stand up, which was
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 8: like probably a mistake because Dave hates stand up, but
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 8: I was very lucky that this guy who went before
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 8: me did also did stand up and bombed so hard
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 8: that just by contrast, I looked a lot better. And
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 8: so then I went up and they were like, yeah,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 8: you were better, so okay, and then they passed me
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 8: into the like the Hell Week thing where they chose
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 8: I think ten people to come compete like it was
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 8: the Apprentice, and we had to come to the office
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 8: every day Monday to Friday, and at the end of
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 8: do a bunch of challenges type shit job, don't write
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 8: a blog, go sell merch whatever, and make a video.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 8: And then on the final day Dave would fire someone
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 8: at the end of every day on Facebook Live Facebook
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 8: Live and they'd be like you know, ten thousand people watching,
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 8: which it doesn't sound like a lot now, but at
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 8: that time, big I never said anybody watching me do anything.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 8: Nobody knew who I was. And so like all of
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 8: a sudden, my friends are tuning in like family members,
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 8: and I'm just inching forward and and and you know,
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 8: as the as the tasks became more like talent oriented
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 8: instead of just like stupid ship, I was able to
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 8: actually show that I could write, and that I could
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 8: make funny videos and this and that, and I uh,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 8: I ended up winning that whole thing, got like a
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 8: trial contract for six months. Within two months they had
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 8: bumped me up to full time. And then I was
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 8: there for two and a half years, and then I
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 8: got fired, and then I was away for three years,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 8: and then I got hired back.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: And now who we are?
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 8: It's quite a saga.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: I yeah, I want to ask why I got fired,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 4: but I feel like that's head.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: There's another piece that.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: I I go to Barstow, I'm like, hey, how's everybody doing?
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: And I leave. There's another piece of this that there's
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: like a doctor thing in there.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that was do you know about that?
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've told me about it. You have to tell this.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 8: I mean, this is talk to me like you're meeting
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 8: me for the first I feel bad because I want
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 8: to shoot the ship with you guys, but these stories
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 8: are a little long.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: This is the show. Yes, so we're highlighting you fair enough.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 8: But you know, I watched your guys show and I
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 8: love it and I love the way you guys just
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 8: you know, shoot the ship with people. So I feel
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 8: i'll tell you. I'll tell you as quickly as I can.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: Story.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 8: I'm not telling stories quickly. I'm pretty long with so
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 8: I apologize for that.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: We can talk Fox Sports Drummond a little bit, but
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: tell the story perfect.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 8: Yes. Yes, So on day three of the Barstool Hell
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 8: Week thing, I had had a surgery. I mentioned the
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 8: getting beaten up by the guy.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: The lobster Man, which you kind of really brushed over
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 4: because Will knew what it was and You're like, yeah,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 4: that's stuck. And then you talked about cocaine in your nose.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 8: Yes, so I the lung. The short story of that
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 8: is that I was in Portland, Maine, when I was
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 8: a sophomore in college, home for Christmas, when out with
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 8: some buddies, bars clothes. We were pretty banged up, went
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 8: to the pizza place in the old Port, filed into
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 8: a booth. I saw some guys that I used to
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 8: play sports against at a rival school, but who I
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 8: was friendly with. We'd like played travel sports together, and
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 8: I went over to say hi to them and was
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 8: sitting with them for like five minutes. One of them
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 8: saw these two girls come in. They were like screaming
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 8: at each other, almost fighting, and he chirped them, and
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 8: then one of their boyfriends came over and was like,
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 8: that's my girlfriend, and he said something like, you know,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 8: keep your dogs on a leash or something insane, something insane,
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 8: and then the big guy punched him in the face
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 8: and broke his nose, and his nose exploded all over
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 8: the pizza. I sort of got he was pulling blood
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 8: all over the pie, which we wanted. And then they
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 8: all started getting out of the booth to like fight,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 8: and I was like, am I part of this? Like
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 8: what the fuck? And then I was like trying to
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 8: set down, but then we got pushed outside and then
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 8: one of the guys from his team just like knew
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 8: what he was doing. He knew he kicked me in
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 8: the face with like Timberland boots on and knocked me
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 8: to the ground, and he got over my back and
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 8: just grabbed my coat collar and he's like he's I'm
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 8: not even kidding, he's he's saddled me, like he's I'm
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 8: facing that way and he's behind me facing the same
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 8: way with my coat collar bringing me to the right
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 8: height like it's t ball and just swinging around my
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 8: face and I'm just on all fours being like.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I can't do anything.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 8: This is terrible. Probably hit me nine times. I broke
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 8: my orbital bone, I had hairline fractures of my gums,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 8: my nose was broken, as I said, and obviously a concussion.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 8: And dude, he finally he like he was it was
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 8: so one sided that he just got off and like
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 8: helped me up and was like are you okay? And
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 8: I was like, if you're okay? Yeah, He asked me
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 8: if I was okay, and I I had had this
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 8: idea for a couple of years that like, at some
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 8: point as a man, you needed to get into a fistfight,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 8: and that you had to earn your stripes and like
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 8: prove yourself as a man. And I was stoked that
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 8: I had found one had taken my punches and you know,
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 8: lived to like keep moving forward. So I actually dapped
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 8: the guy up. I swear I got it. And by
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 8: the way, i've told this story before. I told it
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 8: on Matt and Shane's and I'm telling it here, and
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 8: if I ever did Rogan, I'd want to tell it
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 8: on there because I have been looking for this guy
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 8: for fucking years and I'm hopeful that at some point
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 8: he'll hear me tell this story. We were at Joe
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 8: was it Bill's Pizza and the old Port. I think
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 8: it's on Commercial or Exchange Street now it's out of business.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 8: It was December twenty third, two nights before Christmas. There
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 8: was a ton of snow coming down down and I
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 8: feel like he would have to remember this, and if
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 8: you were that guy, we should reconnect, not to fight,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 8: just to tell the story, because I feel like I
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 8: have the story right, but I'm like it was obviously
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 8: it's a little hazy, but he helped me up. We
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 8: dapted it up. They got into a cab, they left
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 8: because someone had pulled the fire alarm to summon the police.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 8: And I actually remember it was the guy who owned
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 8: the place, who were like one of the pizza people
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 8: pulled the fire alarm and yelled, the police are on
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 8: their way, and I was like, doesn't that summon the firemen?
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 8: And nobody laughed. Just foreshadowing of the weak comedian I
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 8: would be for years of the long road ahead. And
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 8: so anyway, so then we had to take We took
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 8: that guy who had his nose broken to the hospital,
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 8: and then we went back to my buddy's place. And
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 8: I was hurt, but I was very drunk, so like
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 8: I didn't I just was like spitting out a lot
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 8: of blood, but I didn't think for some reason, I
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 8: didn't think I needed to go to the hospital. I
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 8: went to bed and I woke up and I had
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 8: swallowed so much blood through my own septum that I
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 8: was very nauseous. And I got up at like six am,
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 8: raised to the toilet and threw up all this blood.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 8: Because your body cannot digest blood. Did you know that? No,
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 8: it's an interesting like scientific trigger for your stomach where
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 8: if it senses that there's blood pooling, it thinks that
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 8: you have internal bleeding or some kind of really bad problem,
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 8: and it will alert you of this by making you nauseous.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 8: This is what I was told, So I threw up
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 8: all that blood and then I went home, walked in
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 8: the door on Christmas Eve at seven am, greeted by
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 8: R two, you know, Yellow Labs, and then my mom,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 8: who's making Christmas cookies, and my face looks like beef
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 8: carpaccio and she had to take me to get emergency
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 8: dental surgery on Christmas Eve. And so yeah, so that
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 8: was like and then obviously it's.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: Gonna take a quick break from the episode to bring
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  Speaker 2: the episode. Okay, so years later, so let's how you
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: got fired.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 8: Years later, I finally have the surgery to get my
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 8: nose corrected from that moment, and that moment happened in
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 8: two thousand and nine, the winter of two thousand and nine,
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 8: and it wasn't until twenty sixteen that I finally was like,
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 8: I need to get this fixed. And I went in
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 8: to get the like the I saw an ear nose
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 8: throat person and he was like, well, we also see
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 8: that you have polyps on your vocal cords because they
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 8: had done a you know, X ray or whatever, because
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 8: I was very hoarse from performing.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 2: All the time.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 8: Is this the visit on day three of that No,
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 8: that visit happened weeks weeks before I had I had
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 8: done this. I ended up doing that surgery in like,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 8: I think early December, and then the audition for barstool
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 8: idol was in January. I'm pretty sure. But even before
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 8: the surgery I went in and had they told me
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 8: they were like, we can fix the polyps. We can
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 8: scrape those off the vocal cords with a throat surgeon
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 8: and then under the same anesthesia do the nose. So
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 8: you can kind of just kill two birds with gunstone
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 8: if you want. And I was like, yeah, absolutely, I
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 8: get the surgery. I recover from that. I go into
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 8: barstool idol all as well. On that Wednesday of Barstol Idol,
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 8: I get a call from the actual doctor, a voicemail,
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 8: not even like his assistant, and he's like, Hi, Francis,
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 8: it's doctor Wu peak Wu at Mount Sinai and he
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 8: was like I need to see you immediately. This is
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 8: really important. Like, uh, please come to the office when
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 8: you can, like.
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: Shit, you know the story, Yeah, okay, juicy.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And he's like, you know, he didn't tell me why,
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 8: And I was like, what the fuck? Okay? So I
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 8: called his assistant and she was like, yeah, come. I
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 8: was like, do I need make an appointment? She was
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 8: like just come now. So I'm in the bar office.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 8: It's day three. I'm down to like one of five
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 8: or six remaining people. So I just sneak out and
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 8: I take the subway up to Mount Sinai, which is
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 8: all the way uptown almost in Harlem. I go in.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 8: I see them and they were like okay. Unfortunately, when
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 8: you take something out of your bodies, you guys probably know.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 8: I think they automatically biopsy it just to like test
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 8: whatever it is. And they were like, we thought we
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 8: had removed polyps from your vocal cords, but they are
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 8: showing signs of cancerous malignant season. We think now they
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 8: are cancerous tumors. Oh shit, and we need to start
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 8: doing some testing now to see if it's like fantastasized
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 8: and spread and that is our diagnosis. We're really sorry.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 8: I was like, holy fuck what? And then I had
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 8: to get in a cab to go back to Barstool,
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 8: at which point I called my parents and told them
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 8: I had just been told I have cancer. Yeah, I'm crying.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 8: I'm freaked out. The fucking barstool idol was already like
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 8: a huge pressure cooker, crazy thing. And I get to
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 8: the office. I'm very shaken from this news and I
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 8: have to go in. I go up the stairs and
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 8: Kevin Clancy is like, where have you been? You're supposed
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 8: to be doing this test segment on KFC radio right now,
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, ah, fuck, okay, So I go in.
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 8: They hustle me in, they sit me down, and they're
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 8: like crazy week, right, Like how's your week?
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: Ben?
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 8: And I'm like not great to be honest with you,
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 8: and I'm like, I don't really know what to say,
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 8: like I'm kind of freaking out right now, and I
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 8: swear to God you can watch this. Kevin goes, You're
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 8: not about to tell me you have cancer?
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 2: Are you? Word for word?
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 8: He says that, and I was like, yeah, kinda, and
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 8: he's like what And then I told him what had
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 8: just happened. I didn't have time to like prepare, I
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 8: didn't have time to be like.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: Doctor visit. No.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 8: Then I told him I think I told him in
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 8: the in the show, I didn't have like I didn't
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 8: know what to do about it. Yeah, was terrifying, and
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 8: you know, I'm twenty six, twenty seven, and then that
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 8: that comes out and becomes part of the show, and uh,
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 8: I ended up winning the show. And I at this
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 8: point like I do what any comedian does, and I
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 8: start making like jokes about it, and like my final
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 8: video on the final day was like this song I
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 8: wrote and performed in the Subway to raise money for
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 8: cancer treatment, which was called like hold Me Closer, I've
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 8: Got cancer. I was doing. I did like a mashup
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 8: of like famous songs with riffing on this Yeah, and
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 8: it was funny, and I ended up winning the show
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 8: and I got the I got the job, and then
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 8: I was I was working there for like whatever two
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 8: or three weeks. And at this time, all this time,
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 8: they had sent the biopsy samples out to California to
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 8: get like further testing done. We had called a radiologist
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 8: in Maine who was like friends with my family to
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 8: get him involved and be like, what the fuck is
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 8: going on here? Start figuring out options things like that.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 8: And I think it was like two weeks in. I
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 8: get a call on a Friday in the afternoon, you know,
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 8: office is like chilling out, and it's the assistant and
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 8: she goes, Okay, we have great news. We just did
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 8: DNA test. The DNA testing came back from the the
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 8: atop the biopsy that we did, and the samples that
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 8: we had taken out that showed cancer's malignancies turned out
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 8: to be female. And then we found the samples that
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 8: we had swapped in the lab with yours retested yours
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 8: and yours were fine.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: This results wrong. They switched my tests in the lab.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 2: Could you imagine the woman think of this. She either
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: had cancer, got my test results and was like miraculously
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 2: you're cured, or didn't know she had cancer and found
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 2: out like three or four weeks later than she should have.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: Because of this, because people were like, Francis, you should
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 2: sue the hospital. I'm like, I don't want.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 8: I'm not gonna sue a hospital for telling me I
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 8: don't have cancer. That woman has a case.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: She should probably do something that is fucking nuts.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 8: So I know, I know, I know immediately because I'm
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 8: a fan of barstool, how this is gonna go. Oh,
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 8: the narrative is going to be this ginger bitch faked
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 8: cancer to get a job at barstool, which I'm not
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 8: kidding you. Nate had written the blog before I was
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 8: off the phone with the medical assistant Ginger Francis faked
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 8: cancer to get a job at barstool, and that because
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 8: comes the narrative, And I then had to write a
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 8: counter blog where I like, show I had them fax
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 8: me the biopsy results that show the like medical language
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 8: and all the stuff proving like cancer smignacies, all this
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 8: being like telling my side of the story. Nobody cares.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 8: Nobody cares. It's far funnier to think that I would
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 8: have faked cancer like a fucking psycho to get a
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 8: job at barstool. Dave has me on Barcel Radio. We
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 8: only had one Barcel Radio show back then on Sirius XM.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 8: And Big Cat comes in and it's like all the
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 8: heavy hitters and they are just skewering me for faking cancer,
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 8: like to get a job at barstool, and I'm so terrified.
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 8: I'm like two weeks into the job. I don't have
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 8: any confidence. I'm just like walking on eggshells. I don't
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 8: have I don't have any understanding of like the exposure
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 8: in the reach of barstool, and all of a sudden,
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 8: I am the main storyline of the week. God damn
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 8: and freaking out. The more I try to be like no,
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 8: I didn't fake cancer, I'd see everyone's like, yeah, that's
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 8: what a psycho would say. The number one like for
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 8: like this.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: Is the worst company ever to fake cancer away for
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: the year, for like two years after that.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 8: If you would google my name, put Francis Ellis into
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 8: the search bar at Google, the next words that would
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 8: populate were Francis Ellis fakes cancer, wasn't like Francis Elis,
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 8: barseol sports, Francis Elis Harvard Lacrosse graduate, which it had been,
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 8: and then I would ask all my friends to regoogle
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 8: that to try to bump fake cancer.
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: Down off the list.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 8: But it turns out a lot more people are interested
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 8: in reading about freaking cancer than my go Crimson stats
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 8: to put Crimson six ground balls against Cantius in two
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 8: thousand and seven. So anyway, uh so that was just
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 8: like the narrative. And then like two weeks later I
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 8: ended up asking out of Sports Illustrated swimsuit model after
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 8: we at a segment and that got out and got
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 8: to Dave and he fucking made a mess of that,
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 8: made a whole scene of that, which now it's like, okay,
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 8: faked cancer. He's asking out girls that are ten ten
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 8: leagues out of his league. This guy really is a psycho.
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 8: And then then it just became that I was an
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 8: actual psychopath. And that was when it took me like
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 8: a year to be stop fighting that and then actually
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 8: be like, yes, I'm a.
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 4: Psycho, yeah, having psychotic tendencies.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 8: It was more like I did I something clicked where
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 8: taking the reins of the narrative myself, you know, be
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 8: rabbiting it a little bit all of a sudden launched,
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 8: launched my tone I found like a tone at barstool,
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 8: which was what led me to start writing longer blogs
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 8: that were more personal, because up to that point everyone
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 8: was just kind of like, here's a story from the internet.
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 8: Here's my two paragraph take on it. That's blogging at barstool.
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 8: And then I was It was a year in and
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 8: I over Christmas break, we had, you know, a week
• 2:11:11
  Speaker 8: and a half off, and I stayed in the city
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 8: to do stand up and randomly, three days in a row,
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 8: I ran into Dave. One day we were sitting next
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 8: to each other at a barber shop getting our haircut,
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 8: just randomly. The next day was at a sports bar.
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 8: We were like adjacent tables, and then the next day
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 8: like at a bar at night. So I wrote a
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 8: blog titled I spent my Christmas Break becoming best friends
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 8: with Dave Portnoy, and our exchanges in those moments were
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 8: no more than ten words, Hey Dave, how are you good?
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 8: Good to see you. Happy Holidays.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 8: And then I wrote two thousand words extrapolating this into
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 8: a friendship completely imagined from my side, but indicating how
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 8: little we'd actually corresponding. But what I thought Dave's words
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 8: meant even though he said so few and this was
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 8: a light bulb moment for me at barstool, and I
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 8: started following that just writing like personal blogs, kind of
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 8: where I would imaginatively and very neurotically extend small exchanges
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 8: or like interactions with co workers into a long piece.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 8: And that is kind of what I do to this day.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 2: Beautiful, did you have a shout at the swimsuit model?
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 2: Did she ever respond to anything?
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 8: Here's what happened you hear? Okay, there were three of
• 2:12:35
  Speaker 8: them that came in to promote the launch of the
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 8: new sports illustrated magazine that was coming out. They were
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 8: Daniel Harrington, who got the cover of the next year.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: Fuck.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 8: I can't remember the other two, but they're they were
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 8: awesome and I'm sorry I can't remember them. But anyway,
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 8: I did a show with them. I sat down. I
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 8: was doing some dumb show called the Saturday sit Down
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 8: where I just played this like awkward, bumbling character like
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 8: Chris Farley. Bit yes, yes, and yes. I had the
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 8: three of them on and they're like the most stunning
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 8: women alive. And there I am just fumbling around and
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 8: being embarrassed.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 2: And whatever.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 8: But during that I remember like Daniel Harrington was sitting
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 8: on the couch with me and she like was laughing
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 8: more than the other two. And at one point, like
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 8: she laughed and like touched my knee and I was like.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: It's over rocked up quick, ah, the mother of my children.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: We finally meet.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the search is over ye and we uh So
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 8: afterwards I went up to one of her friends who
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 8: was stuck sticking around, and I was like, Hey, is
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 8: is Dan Do you know happen to know if Daniel's
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 8: like single? And she was like, I don't know why
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 8: I want me to ask for you? And I was like,
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 8: I don't know. I thought she was really cute, like
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 8: uh you know, and she's like here, take she goes
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 8: take my number and I'll find out for you. And
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 8: I was like okay, and we exchange numbers. But I
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 8: think she was in that girl was in a relationship.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 8: So then the next day they fly to Houston to
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 8: do the like pre super Bowl party for maxim maybe
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 8: and Dave goes with them. He's on the plane with them.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 8: They all go down, they go to this party. At
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 8: the party, one of the girls goes up to Dave
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 8: and is like, keep in mind, this is like four
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 8: weeks into me working at barstool.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: Still there. Oh, it's it is psychopath. Yeah.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 8: So Dave. One of them goes up to Dave at
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 8: the party and is like, do you know your employee
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 8: Francis And he's like barely why, And she was like, well,
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 8: I think he's got a crush on my friend Danielle
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 8: or something. He he asked me to find out if
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 8: she was single or something like that, and Dave is like,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 8: get the fuck out of here, and and uh and
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 8: then she and then she's like they're laughing about it,
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 8: and she ends up dming me and going the you
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 8: know the girl who's number right or maybe she texts
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 8: me and she goes, hey, I asked Danielle. She says
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 8: she's interested. Shoot her a DM and like tell her
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 8: all about yourself. And I'm like but but I like,
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 8: luckily I smelled I smelled a rat. And I was like, uh,
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 8: they're trolling me. And I was like no, I don't.
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 8: I don't think that's a good idea. And she's like
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 8: trust me, girls love that, and I'm like ah. Meanwhile,
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 8: Dave is like over their shoulder trying to like lay
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 8: this trap. Then he calls Frankie Brelly, who at the
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 8: time was his cameraman for the All the Pizza reviews,
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 8: and it is down there with him and he's like, Frankie,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 8: come over here, we have to do this. And Dave
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 8: goes on his camera and he's like.
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: Get this world.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 8: Ginger Francis, who's only been here for a cup of coffee,
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 8: faked cancer to get a job at Barstool, is now
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 8: asking out Sports illustrated swimsuit models, the hottest women in
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 8: the world, who are so out of his leg Who
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 8: does he think he is, Like this fucking psychopath. He's
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 8: telling that to the girls and like, uh. And then
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 8: he posts that on Twitter, this is this is.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: I remember.
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 8: It was like a Saturday night or something and I'm
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 8: down in Philly hanging out with some very dear friends.
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 8: We're out to dinner and all of a sudden, my
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 8: phone is exploding for the fifth time in a month.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 8: Things going everywhere.
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: Uh. And then and then the.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 8: Editor in chief at the time, or I think I
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 8: think he was k Marco. He's like, dude, you need
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 8: to get to a laptop and blog blog this immediately.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 8: So I had to leave the dinner. I had my bag,
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 8: my backpack with my laptop in it, and I had
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 8: to leave the dinner to go to like a fucking
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 8: Starbucks at like nine pm. Well gone write this blog
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 8: being like, Okay, yeah, I thought we hit it off.
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 8: Maybe she touched my knee, but like you know, you
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 8: never know. You don't ask, you don't dance, like you know,
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 8: I'd rather I'd rather have the rejection than spend a
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 8: lifetime wondering, you know, what could have been and like
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 8: shoot or shoot blah blah blah. And like the fucking
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 8: audience kind of rallied around that a little bit. They
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 8: were like, yeah, yeah, why is Dave Cock blocking friends?
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: Which is the.
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 8: Worst thing that could have happened, because when you when
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 8: you turn the tide against Dave a little bit, then
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 8: he really starts to bring out the tools and then
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 8: he started like deconstructing the whole thing. He revealed that
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 8: I had also DMed this other girl, who.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 2: Was like, how do you know you DM this other girl?
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 8: Because I think I think that I don't know the
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 8: answer to that.
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: When the Internet starts to take it out, respond maybe
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 2: they that no, no, but I'm not gonna say I
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 2: think they were hooking up and I didn't know it.
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 4: Wait, girl and the girl and so you DM the girl.
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 2: Without knowing that she laying in bed with Dave going
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: to look at this.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 8: Yes, Oh, I think that's what happened.
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 4: People think New York is such a big place. It's
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 4: really not.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 8: Well, it was my mistake. Had appeared on barstool stuff,
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 8: but as a guest. And by the way, that is.
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 2: So funny your face.
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 8: My DM, I think was, Hey, I have a show
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 8: at Barstool called the Saturday sit Down?
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 2: Do you want to do it?
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 8: I don't know that it is like, I don't I
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 8: don't know if I have simple was like eight years ago.
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 8: I could try to find it, but I probably deleted
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 8: it for my own sanity. You do any of you
• 2:18:59
  Speaker 8: know all this? Do you remember any of this?
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: Jared has never sat in on a bus An episode,
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 2: but he could not wait because you are his favorite.
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that, Jared. That's very kind.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 4: We'll get Jared on the MICA a little bit.
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 2: He said, you, guys, does you see Jared in the back? Yes? Yes,
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 4: Yes, so so, so, how do you find out that
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 4: Dave knows about this?
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 8: Damn do you He called me on the on the
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 8: radio show and he's like, you guys are getting behind
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 8: Francis and saying shoot or shoot. But he has a
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 8: tendency to do this with girls. He DMS people that
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 8: are like loosely affiliated with barstool and it's really unprofessional.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 8: Here are here he is asking out this girl or.
• 2:19:36
  Speaker 2: Do you know?
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 8: Do you know I didn't know. I didn't know that
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 8: he didn't know that.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: Dave knew that before you went on the radio show.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 2: He brings you on. You sit there waiting on the phone,
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 2: and by the way, and you can hear him saying this,
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: not on the phone.
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 8: He's there. This is when we all worked together. And
• 2:19:50
  Speaker 8: not only that, Big Cat's in there, and Big Cat
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 8: is waiting for his turn to fucking knock me a
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 8: new one because he was mad at me for he
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 8: Big Cat is incredible at networking, you know, and I
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 8: think that's like his biggest quiet strength. And he will
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 8: work a long game to get amazing guests on Pardon
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 8: my Take, And he's so good at like finessing it
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 8: over a long period of time. Because this was this
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 8: was I was the thirty ninth employee at barstool. And
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 8: this was at a time when yeah, pardon my take
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 8: was getting big, but they couldn't just like put I
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 8: don't know if they were at a point ye where
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 8: they could just put in a call to like JJ
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 8: Watt and be like, come do the show. You know,
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 8: at that time, it was like JJ Watt is six
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 8: months off from us being able. We're starting to kind
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 8: of get the ball roll.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 4: They're they're putting seeds out there, their tweeting at him whatever.
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 8: So they had just had Ryan Lochtey on Pardon my Take,
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 8: and he was a big deal at the time. He
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 8: had just had he just come off the Olympics. He'd
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 8: had this crazy like scandal come out about him, Yes
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 8: swimmer about him like saying he got robbed at a
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 8: gas station and do you guys remember that? But it
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 8: turned out that that hadn't been what happened. But anyway,
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 8: so he was like a big personality. And Ryan Lockey
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 8: came into the office did pardon my take? And I
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 8: had asked, big cat, is there any chance I can
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 8: shoot something that I have a funny sketch. I had
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 8: started doing this thing called this is Barstool that were
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 8: like that this is Sports Center commercials, and I had
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 8: a funny idea to shoot with Ryan Lockedy and Big
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 8: Cat was like, look, I don't want to step on
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 8: your toes, but like this is a very kind of
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 8: delicate guess that we worked really hard to get and
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 8: all he has time for is this there it is,
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 8: and and like, I'd appreciate it if you didn't do that.
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 8: And I was at a point where I was like
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 8: I need to do everything I possibly can, and I
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 8: just was like really hungry to make content and I
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 8: kind of just didn't listen to Big Cat. So I
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 8: then grabbed Ryan Lockety as he came out of the elevator.
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 8: He didn't I think. I told his producer or whatever,
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 8: like I have this idea and she was like okay, sure,
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 8: And I had printed out my own headshot and I said, hey, Ryan,
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 8: can you sign this? And he was like sure, but
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 8: this is a picture of you and I was like yeah,
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 8: I know, and then he was and he signs it
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 8: and then he hands it back to me and I'm like, no,
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 8: that's for you, and he goes but I just signed it,
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 8: and I go, yeah, now everyone knows it's yours. And
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 8: then he's like completely confused and walks out. And that
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 8: was the whole thing. He didn't know what we were
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 8: going to do. Oh yeah, there was the original DM
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 8: that I sent to the swimsuit model. It was great
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 8: working with you yesterday. I know you're off to Houston,
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 8: but when do you get back? Want to go boxing?
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 8: Because she had said she goes to she does like
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 8: boxing as like a workout, yes, not like hey want
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 8: to fight each other. I have a history of concussions.
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 2: So go easy.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 8: So she responded, no, she didn't because that was all then.
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 8: Then it was all going through her friend.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: She might be on the joke or maybe dide.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 8: She got the she got the she got the cover
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 8: the next year, Daniel Harrington, she got the cover.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 2: That that's her. Yeah, that's who you asked out. Shooter
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 2: Shoot Brother, Shooter Shoot. I made T shirts in the
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 2: merch store called shooter Shoot. Really yeah, how they do?
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: I think? Okay?
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 8: Not great? But we hadn't hunted in the Sports Illustrated
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 8: font So that was the subtle hat tip to it.
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: So big Cat found out.
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 8: Big Cat found out about that, so and and and
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 8: to his credit, like he he was not thrilled and
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 8: totally understandably so and so he was in the radio room.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 8: Once Dave was done berating me for like, I can't
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 8: ask out girls that are like coming into barstool to
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 8: shoot stuff because it's really unprofessional, which is true. Then Dave, Yeah,
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 8: there it is. Uh then Dave uh or excuse me,
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 8: big cat. Then I think weighed in maybe about the
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 8: Ryan lochtey thing or was also just like piling on.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 8: You know, I'm sitting next to Glennie Balls and it's
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 8: like what is he doing in here?
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 8: And They're all just like taking their pound of flesh
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 8: and I'm fucking terrified, and you know, and but there,
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 8: but this was like an important learning moment for me,
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 8: and it was a total trial, trial by fire, you
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 8: could call it like a hazing ritual of barstool. And
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 8: once I got through this, I leveled out, Like I
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 8: started to settle into the job. And as I said,
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 8: like eight or nine months later, I found that long
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 8: form tone thing that you know, started to see my
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 8: job met me actually do better at the work until
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 8: until I got fired.
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 4: So so you're working there for two weeks, for four
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 4: weeks in that time, you say you have cancer. You
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 4: come back and say, oh no, the DNA test got switched.
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 4: I don't have cancer. Some poor woman has cancer. Then
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 4: a swimsuit model comes in and you ask her out,
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 4: which is wildly inappropriate for any corporation, and you keep
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 4: your job. There you go, and so I'm excited to
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 4: hear how you got fired.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 8: It's a great point because I did go. I did
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 8: go into Dave's office at one point to this is
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 8: to apologize for all of this. And his first response
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 8: was like, hey, it gave me great content, Like that
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 8: was his for the first words he said, and that
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 8: it would take me a long time to realize that,
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 8: like Dave is willing to court conflict and controversy if
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 8: it's entertaining. If it's not, and it's it starts causing
• 2:26:00
  Speaker 8: advertisers to pull back and costing the company money or
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 8: paints the company in a bad light, that's a problem.
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 8: So okay, uh that was that was That was the
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 8: first whole run. And then I'm there for whatever two
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 8: and a half years. I'm starting to get a little
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 8: too big for my bretches. Probably, you know, I was
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 8: writing well, and I had a lot of things that
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 8: were going well. I got at tapped to host the
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 8: breakfast show on series with Willie Cologne. We did that
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 8: for like a year, year and a half. That was
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 8: going well and it was interesting. I'm writing, well, i
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 8: have a good video series, i have a sketch show
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 8: called The Barcel Variety Hour. I'm touring for stand up
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 8: like whatever. My star is theoretically rising. And I only
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 8: say that because Dave at one point it was like, yeah,
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 8: Francis is a fucking star. You know, they gave their
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 8: giving me raises like it's just going well, right and yeah,
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 8: and the commentary is starting to be, like you read
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 8: a few of the comments and people are being like,
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 8: how long is it until Francis leaves barstool for something better?
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 8: And uh or like you know, he's gonna go to
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 8: SNL or some shit, and you start to you start
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 8: to drink your own kool aid and fucking feel.
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 2: Yourself a little bit again.
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 8: I'm young, I'm like twenty eight, twenty nine, and I'm
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 8: thinking like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna use this as
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 8: a stepping stone to my you know, stardom. And Dave
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 8: knows when you start to feel that way because you're
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 8: not committing as much, You're not like wearing the shield,
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 8: you're not showing up on time to like, you know,
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 8: some of the sponsored stuff. Whatever it is, it's it's clear.
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 8: And this came to a head when we had a
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 8: we had a sponsored thing at a dunkin Donuts called
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 8: the Duncan Awards. We had done it the year before
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 8: it was all the way out in Queen's and the
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 8: year before it was like our Oscars ceremony where they
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 8: painted out blog of the Year, Video of the Year,
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 8: Song of the Awards, and everyone got dressed up. We
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 8: were all wearing like suits and stuff. The second year
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 8: they were like, we're doing it again, but there wasn't
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 8: as much fanfare, and they sent out like one email
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 8: being like the Duncan Awards are at this place at
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 8: this time. There's gonna be a bus that takes us
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 8: out there, and then the last line was like dressed
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 8: to impress, and a handful of us just kind of
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 8: disregarded it or didn't really know, I don't know, didn't
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 8: take it seriously enough that we needed to dress up.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 8: We'd drive out there on the bus, I'd take edibles
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 8: with a few people and I'm wearing a black T shirt.
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 8: A bunch of people are wearing like T shirts and jeans.
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 8: We walk in and Dave is on a fucking rampage,
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 8: just crushing everybody who's not dressed up. I'm I'm not
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 8: dressed up, And meanwhile the edibles are kicking in. I'm like,
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 8: and I'm getting torn apart by Dave for being high
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 8: and wearing a T shirt and all of this, and
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 8: I just this is like me falling out of favor,
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 8: Like this is me kind of a come to Jesus moment,
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 8: Like look at how fucking stupid I look banged up
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 8: in the and he just tortures me, like, you know,
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 8: torches me the whole time. That was on like Monday.
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 8: The next day, Real Sports with Bryant Gumbele I think
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 8: on HBO releases an expose that they'd been you know,
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 8: researching for weeks on barstool. It's kind of a hip piece.
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 8: Things aren't good at this time. Lots of whenever a
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 8: hit piece would come out, it was implicitly understood that
• 2:30:07
  Speaker 8: we needed to like, yo, lower our heads, shut up,
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 8: don't raise any flags, or like, don't rock the boat.
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 8: Let's let this pass and we'll get back to our work.
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 8: That was on Tuesday. Friday is the Friday before the
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 8: fourth of July, we have a week off, I write
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 8: a blog. At this time we had I had the
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 8: ability to just publish my own blogs and there was
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 8: no one to oversee it. And I saw a story
• 2:30:44
  Speaker 8: that morning about girl in Utah who had gone missing.
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 8: It was in the New York Post, it was in
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 8: you know, fucking us Weekly whatever. It was kind of
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 8: tabloidy salacious. She was a big fan of Call Her Daddy,
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 8: which was our exploding podcast at the time. This yep,
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 8: she was an outspoken sugar Daddy dating website advocate and
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 8: was like on seeking arrangements and like being like, you
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 8: should you know, have a guy pay for your life whatever. So,
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 8: and she was a sorority sister and she'd gone missing.
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 8: She'd been missing for two weeks. Her sorority sisters had
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 8: alerted the FBI that she was missing, but they saw
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 8: that her Instagram account had been liking photos. So it
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 8: was like it was kind of a perfect storm of
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 8: details that I thought the barstool audience will want to
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 8: read about this, And it almost was so down the
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 8: lane that I was like, why has nobody written this yet,
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 8: which should have been a red flag? Why is nobody
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 8: up because we we had like thirteen bloggers at that time,
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 8: and we were all just like constantly fighting for the
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 8: to be the first to an internet story. Yep, I
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 8: write the blog. It's not funny, it's just it was
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 8: just like a throw way blog. And I'm kind of like, yeah,
• 2:32:02
  Speaker 8: you know this girl, here's the story. Like, let's hope
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 8: she's okay, but you know, she's a big fan of
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 8: Sugar Daddy website, so like, hopefully she's on a yacht
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 8: somewhere with some older guy like and that she comes
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 8: back in a week or so and wearing call her
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 8: Daddy Merchant promotes the whatever, it's a bunch of bullshit.
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 8: Two hours after I write the blog, she has found
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 8: brutally murdered. This story starts turning into Barstool Sports writer
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 8: Francis Ellis has written like the most tone deaf, heartless,
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 8: cruel blog about a murdered girl. I get hit up.
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 8: I get like four email emails in my inbox in
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 8: a row from like The Daily Beast, dead Spin, all
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 8: the all the usual suspects of the companies that would
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 8: attack Barstool for any reason. At that time, they're like,
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 8: we're writing a story about the fact that you wrote
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 8: about this girl.
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: We have three questions, One why would you have written it?
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 8: Two? Did anyone else see the block before it went up?
• 2:33:01
  Speaker 2: Like three?
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 8: Like what do you have to say for yourself? I
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 8: I'm like, oh fuck. I get a text from Dave
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 8: all Caps, What the fuck is your problem? You fucking idiot?
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 8: Like why would you have done this? Then he texts
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 8: Our editors.
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 4: Huh we've had We've had those texts.
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 8: Then it's like, uh, you know, just a daily text
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 8: to Mincy. I got, yeah, I get I get put
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 8: in like a uh. He texts the our editor in
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 8: chief and he's like, from now on, Francis says, no
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 8: editorial approval, anything he writes needs to be run by you.
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 8: This guy that guy with at the time was this
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 8: guy Keith, and he like tweets out that I have
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 8: been silenced or something like that my editorial approven So
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 8: even at that point it felt like, oh, people were
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 8: kind of making a joke of this, And then I
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 8: like responded with like just a gift of me, like
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 8: putting myself in a cone of shame or something. But
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 8: then as the day progressed, I was on my I
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 8: was leaving that afternoon to go meet my girlfriend's parents
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 8: for the first time. Oh shit, and that woman became
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 8: my wife who is now my ex wife. And I
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 8: was on a train down to her family's house in
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 8: Pennsylvania when I got a call from Dave and I
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 8: picked it up and he was like, I hate to
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 8: do this, but I don't feel like we have a choice.
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 8: We're firing you. And I was like, okay, I get it.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: Do you explain, Yeah, this is the gift that broke.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 8: No, it was that. It was that. Yeah, and then
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 8: they cut together a stool scenes to make it look
• 2:34:51
  Speaker 8: like I didn't give a fuck, and it was just
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 8: like goofing around. This was like a completely This was
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 8: before long before I wrote the blog, probably before the
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 8: Duncan Awards, you know, no shit, Yeah.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: Just the way that week unfolded.
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 8: Good time, like different me. So anyway, oh yeah, and
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 8: this guy was like really mad at me for this guy.
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 8: He's one of Pat McAfee's guys that we hired, and
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 8: he was mad that I had like they produced a
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 8: stand up special for me and put it behind a
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 8: paywall and not many people watched it, and then they
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 8: were Dave was mad at me at the Dunkin Awards
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 8: that they had spent money on the special and nobody
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 8: watched it, and I wrote a blog apologizing for that,
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 8: and then that guy got mad at me for apologizing.
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 2: What no dude anyway, like is this empire?
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 8: Uh No? I think he actually addressed it on Twitter
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 8: in a little bit more of like a sincere way
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 8: where he was like he kind of seemed more conflicted
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 8: about it, where he was like, you know, I had
• 2:35:58
  Speaker 8: to do it. The fact that he wrote that blog
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 8: was Banana's buddy's a talented kid. I think he'll be fine,
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 8: like whatever. And then Dave wrote me a text later
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 8: that day after firing me and was like, for what
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 8: it's worth, I wish it hadn't gone down the way
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 8: it did. I actually think you might be able to
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 8: like use this to a year advantage. You're in a
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 8: good spot like, which meant a lot because when that happened,
• 2:36:23
  Speaker 8: then the Washington Post wrote an article about it. I
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 8: think People Magazine, the Daily Mail, it was everywhere, and
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 8: I was just being painted as this, like, you know,
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 8: the Daily Beast headline was barsol sports writer Francis Elle's
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 8: slut shames a murdered girl, which is just so out
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 8: of bounds. Like I didn't say anything negative about that fact.
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 8: Just the fact that I mentioned she was on seeking
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 8: arrangements was why they took that angle. Plus if you
• 2:36:51
  Speaker 8: read the blog, you know you read it and you're like,
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 8: he didn't know she was dead, Obviously there it is.
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 8: And so I thought at this time that my career
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 8: was over toast and I was really scared. I didn't
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 8: eat for like three days, and I was just hold
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 8: up at my girlfriend's parents' house, like trying to figure
• 2:37:20
  Speaker 8: out what to do, what to do next.
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 2: How was that first impression you get up to there,
• 2:37:27
  Speaker 2: to their credit, like they're just the coolest people and
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 2: we're really.
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 8: Like, oh, you know, that's tough, but you'll be okay.
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 8: Like they were really cool and embracing and supportive. And
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 8: I got all these texts from people of the company
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 8: being like, I'm really sorry that that had this happened,
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 8: Like I love you know, you're a good guy, Like
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 8: hold your head up. A lot of people reaching out.
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 8: It wasn't like I left in a body bag from barstool,
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 8: as a lot of people do, but not with maybe
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 8: like this same this guy's dead to us, right, it
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 8: was like after a couple of days, people were like,
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 8: he made a mistake, you know, he just read it wrong.
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 8: It was a dumb mistake. But I wasn't trying to
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 8: like hurt anybody. And this was also like the height
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 8: of cancel culture. This was twenty nineteen, so me Too movement,
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 8: right before Black Lives Matter. Just like Shane gets fired
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 8: off SNL a couple months I think after this happens,
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 8: and then he and I became friends through that. Oh
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 8: for real that the two of us had been were
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 8: stand up comics who like loosely knew each other and
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 8: had both just been destroyed in the public eye, very
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 8: close to each other, and that was kind of where
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 8: we bonded because when he got canceled off SNL, I
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 8: went on Twitter and defended him and he and there
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 8: were a lot of people at that time who were
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 8: like afraid to do that kind of stuff, like if
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 8: we throw our a lot in behind somebody that's been canceled,
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 8: that's gonna come back on us. I didn't really have
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 8: anything to lose.
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 4: Like everyone who got canceled at that time, all their
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 4: friends kind of dipped on them. Everyone kind of just
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 4: like let them die. On the island that we got
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 4: to preserve and protect what we have going on.
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 8: I get it. It was a witch hunt in that moment,
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 8: and the people who are looking to, you know, correct
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 8: the world had all the power. There had not been
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 8: the fatigue around cancel culture that has now developed, so
• 2:39:35
  Speaker 8: you know, that was what happened to me. I got
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 8: fired and then I like kind of just took a
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 8: few days said okay, you know what, like I'm gonna
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 8: keep trying here started uh oh. I also got some
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 8: like I had a few job offers pretty quickly from
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 8: like a couple blogging sites. Pro Bible reached out. They
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 8: had been around early, like with Barstool, and then they
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 8: kind of like I think they got sold and then
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 8: they faded away. But then they were starting to come
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 8: back a little and I was like, I don't really
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 8: know what my next move is. So I just took
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 8: some time and then I was like, okay, I need
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 8: to I need to not lose whatever people are still
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 8: with me, and I need to give them a place
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 8: to follow me, you know, if they want to. So
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 8: I started a podcast with a comedian friend of mine
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 8: that was originally based around moments of failure and fuck
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 8: ups and then like the redemption stories behind them. Julio Gallraadi.
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 2: Julio Gallaradi, He's.
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 8: Been on a lot of barstool stuff. He's a great comic.
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 8: We called it Oops, and it was just about like
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 8: fucking upwards and like finding ways to come back after
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 8: you've just made it, yeah, after you've made mistakes. And
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 8: this kind of just started to gather like a nice
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 8: cult following. We were able to like, you know, generate revenue,
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 8: and I was doing that and redoubling my efforts touring
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 8: as a stand up and like just sort of piecing
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 8: it together income and like making a making a way
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 8: of it. And I did that for three years. I
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 8: was out in the wild, just like hunting for whatever
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 8: I could eat.
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 2: And how are you guys acquiring revenue? Is that you
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 2: guys both just going out and selling on your own?
• 2:41:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, just really like grassroots reaching out to brands. And
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 8: then we got a an ad agency that got behind
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 8: us and took a split and that was good, but
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 8: we were Yeah, we did okay. And then pandemic hits
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 8: and then I started making some videos in my car
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 8: where I was like documenting alternate side parking. This crazy
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 8: phenomenon in New York and that started going on parking.
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 8: Street sweeping in New York happens on two days of
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 8: the week, but in the pandemic they limited it to
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 8: one day a week. And there's this crazy thing where
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 8: parking spots were so coveted in New York on the
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 8: street because so expensive that people would sit in their
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 8: cars for the one and a half hour window that
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 8: people were that the street sweeper might come by so
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 8: that they wouldn't get a ticket, And then when the
• 2:42:11
  Speaker 8: cleaner came by, everyone would pull out into the street.
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 8: The street sweeper would clean the curb like that area
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 8: where we were all parked, and then we would refile
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 8: back in. But people would come up from the back,
• 2:42:22
  Speaker 8: swoop in and steal the spots, which would bump everyone
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 8: down the line and knock the person in the front off,
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 8: and then that person would get out of their car,
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 8: go back and try to fight the person in the shit.
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 8: And I would be on the street documenting this crazy
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 8: shit and like laughing when people would get tickets because
• 2:42:40
  Speaker 8: they weren't in their car. I became friends with the
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 8: guy who drove the street sweeper. He gave me a
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 8: personally monogrammed Department of Sanitation, New York shirt. He came
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 8: up with a name. He was Pete the Sweep, and
• 2:42:53
  Speaker 8: like I had all these repeat characters and it just
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 8: was this crazy little world. And then I made the
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 8: traffic video where I stopped traffic on the shoulder, which
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 8: went megaviral. Then Son of a Boy Dad, Roan and
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 8: Sass had me on the pod and they were like,
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 8: enough time, we're just gonna.
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 2: See schedule the past you came, They're like, hey.
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 8: We want you to do They didn't clear it.
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 8: It was three years that I was away from the company,
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 8: and I think it was just thought, this dude is
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 8: still too toxic. We're not gonna but like people would
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 8: comment on this stuff and see these videos, and I
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 8: think Dave was like vaguely aware I should have one
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 8: more thing. Probably six months before this, I was pitching
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 8: a show to a producer in Hollywood, loosely based on
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 8: my time working at a upstart digital media company, and
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 8: he was like, yeah, we can make Let's make that.
• 2:43:52
  Speaker 8: And he brought it to Happy Madison, Adam Sandler's production company,
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 8: and they were like, yeah, we love this, but you
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 8: need to get Dave and Erica on board. So then
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 8: I had the unenviable task of reaching out to Dave,
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 8: to whom I had not spoken in two years and
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 8: whose last messages to me were the day he fired me,
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 8: and be like, hey, Dave, I've pitched a show based
• 2:44:13
  Speaker 8: on your company to and now Happy Madison wants to
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 8: make it any interest And he was like and he
• 2:44:21
  Speaker 8: called me and he was like what. And they were
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 8: pretty suspicious at first, but then they liked it, and
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 8: then they came on as like silent producing partners. We
• 2:44:30
  Speaker 8: sold it to Village Road Show and we were like
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 8: adding writers and like developing this show. So maybe that
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 8: also played a part in why Dave was like, oh,
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 8: he's potentially somebody who we want back. And son of
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 8: a boy daed Roan, who remained my friend throughout. He's like, dude,
• 2:44:54
  Speaker 8: come do the pod. We're not going to ask for
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 8: anyone's permission, just come do it. They like snuck me
• 2:44:59
  Speaker 8: in on a Friday. It was super weird being back
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 8: in the office. I was like, am I even allowed
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 8: to hear get around? This would have been probably twenty
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 8: twenty one, probably twenty two, probably twenty two, and I
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 8: come on, I do the pod. Tell a lot of these.
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 8: We'll tell the story of the firing again. Dave sees it.
• 2:45:20
  Speaker 8: At that time he's doing The Dave Portnoy Show with Eddie.
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 8: The next day they do an episode where no not
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 8: the next day, Eddie or somebody at Austin, Dave's producer says, Hey,
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 8: do you want to come on the Dave Portnoy Show.
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, holy shit, but okay, and I come
• 2:45:40
  Speaker 8: on the show. You know, I'm talking to Dave, who
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 8: I think was in Miami. But we're through the thing
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 8: and just like kind of going over everything, and three
• 2:45:49
  Speaker 8: years have passed and he's like, how long has it been,
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 8: Like I've been Yeah, I've been away for three years.
• 2:45:53
  Speaker 8: And he's like, wow, I mean, would you ever have
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 8: an interest in coming back to work here? And I'm like, yeah, definitely.
• 2:45:59
  Speaker 8: And then the show ends and te you text me
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 8: and he's like, all right, you know, what do you want?
• 2:46:06
  Speaker 8: And I told him what I was making and he
• 2:46:10
  Speaker 8: gave me that number, and then I came back to
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 8: work at Barstool No shit.
• 2:46:13
  Speaker 2: The return of Francis Ellis. That's that's my How quickly
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 2: were you back in the building.
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 8: I think that I think that I did the Dave
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 8: Portnoy Show in August. He was like, let's start you
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 8: September first, and I was getting married the last weekend
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 8: of August and then going on my honeymoon and he
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 8: was like, oh. I told him that. He was like, okay,
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 8: come in. So I started September fifteenth, No shit, two
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 8: year contract.
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 4: What was like, like, what were the biggest differences you
• 2:46:42
  Speaker 4: saw being removed three years?
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 2: Well, because the.
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 4: Mood Chicago hasn't happened, hasn't It hadn't happened yet, but
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 4: it was talking about that.
• 2:46:52
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 2:46:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah. So mainly Dave not being in the office was
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 8: the big difference, better or worse? I think good and bad.
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 8: I think that when he was there it galvanized a
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 8: lot of people coming to work. You were like, I
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 8: need to fucking do shit, But you also felt like
• 2:47:13
  Speaker 8: I might end up on the radio answering for DMS
• 2:47:15
  Speaker 8: to a swimsuit model.
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 4: So make sure you do shit and not too much.
• 2:47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:47:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And at this point when I came back, I
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 8: would say it was just like way more relaxed, but
• 2:47:32
  Speaker 8: the pace had slowed. And this was also when they
• 2:47:37
  Speaker 8: were really gearing the company to be purchased by a
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 8: gambling company, so the gambling content had become king and
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 8: it just kind of was like, I don't know, it
• 2:47:51
  Speaker 8: felt more corporate to me in a way because by
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 8: and large my tenure at Barstool the previous time had
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 8: been in that smaller office, which was just a pressure cooker.
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 2: You know, we were.
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 8: All at this point and now exactly right, so now no,
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 8: Now there were like four hundred and there were all
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 8: these people upstairs who were doing like gambling liaison and
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 8: and production and marketing and all this, and it was
• 2:48:17
  Speaker 8: just like a real it felt like a tech company
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 8: at that point. And yeah, just people weren't like people
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 8: weren't looking for a way to like make a make
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 8: content by like fucking ringing someone else's neck. And that
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 8: was definitely like, oh you can, you can, we can relax.
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 8: It's not as mean anymore. But that had been an
• 2:48:42
  Speaker 8: interesting element that a lot of people utilized, and I
• 2:48:46
  Speaker 8: didn't see that come back until I would say, uh,
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 8: Ohio's Tate started doing his thing.
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, people talk about all this is the old barstool,
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 2: this is the style.
• 2:48:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what was it deal with him and Kelly? Why
• 2:48:59
  Speaker 4: did they get into it.
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 2: I think Tate brought up something with her OnlyFans. No, well, no,
• 2:49:05
  Speaker 2: please tell the story that.
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 8: I Kelly and I no key, that might have been
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 8: a small part of it. But Kelly and I had
• 2:49:14
  Speaker 8: been given the Barcel Radio, which Kevin had been doing
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 8: but didn't want to do anymore because it was cannibalized
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 8: his listenership of KFC Radio. They handed it off to us. Uh,
• 2:49:26
  Speaker 8: we were just kind of doing it. And then and
• 2:49:29
  Speaker 8: then Ohio's Tate writes, Kelly said something offhand as a
• 2:49:33
  Speaker 8: joke on the show about how like people were talking
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 8: about like why doesn't why don't they come in on Fridays?
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 8: And Kelly made some joke about like I don't want
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 8: to do my makeup on Fridays. But it was a
• 2:49:42
  Speaker 8: total joke, and I like working from home on Fridays,
• 2:49:45
  Speaker 8: she said. And Tate seized on that and like was like, oh,
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 8: Kelly doesn't want to work on Fridays because she doesn't
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 8: want to have to put makeup on.
• 2:49:54
  Speaker 2: And this is the part where he's just contracted out
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 2: to write blogs. Yeah, yeah, he was still a teacher
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 2: at like right school high school basketball coach is a lunatic. Yeah,
• 2:50:03
  Speaker 2: I like him.
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I like Kelly too, but yeah and wild
• 2:50:07
  Speaker 8: Man and so and both of them are are I
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 8: would say, are good at at at being able to
• 2:50:12
  Speaker 8: like just go for each other's jugular. Kelly's, you know,
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 8: she's pretty Deflnnie like she'll she'll take it, but she
• 2:50:19
  Speaker 8: can also really give it. So anyway, uh, they they
• 2:50:26
  Speaker 8: get into it because of this, and then everyone's expecting
• 2:50:30
  Speaker 8: Kelly and me to talk about the fact that he
• 2:50:32
  Speaker 8: attacked her on the show, but I turned I told her,
• 2:50:36
  Speaker 8: I was like, I don't. I don't really want to
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 8: get into this. I don't think this dude matters. He
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 8: was a teacher. He was blogging like one blog about
• 2:50:45
  Speaker 8: the Browns a week. I didn't know. I didn't even
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 8: know he was a real person, do you know, kind
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 8: of I'm exaggerating, right, But he was like, he wasn't
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 8: full time. He blogged under a pseudonym, and I don't
• 2:50:59
  Speaker 8: I didn't know where this blog about Kelly had come from.
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 8: I didn't know why out of nowhere he was like
• 2:51:05
  Speaker 8: writing an attack blog. So I was like, let's just
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 8: let this go, and we did. And then they were
• 2:51:13
  Speaker 8: mad at us for not doing making it a thing
• 2:51:20
  Speaker 8: and then then it turned into a whole thing, and
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 8: then Dave fired me and Kelly from the show, and
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 8: that was what spawned the Unnamed show because they were like,
• 2:51:33
  Speaker 8: we need real attack dogs.
• 2:51:34
  Speaker 2: Because Nate was trying to.
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 8: Couldn't be better And then yeah, exactly, and so that
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 8: was like a I guess a tough week because people
• 2:51:45
  Speaker 8: were just making fun of us, but I didn't at
• 2:51:46
  Speaker 8: that point, I like, I just didn't care. Yeah, fired,
• 2:51:52
  Speaker 8: I've had I'm in a unique position at Barstool. Well
• 2:51:56
  Speaker 8: it's me and Minci where a lot of people at
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 8: the company fear losing the job because it's a great
• 2:52:06
  Speaker 8: job and it's one of one. There is no other company,
• 2:52:10
  Speaker 8: not one where we can do what we do, where
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 8: we can write about a haircut we got, or and
• 2:52:19
  Speaker 8: have this gigantic pre baked audience that Dave and Big
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 8: Kat and Kevin built and you know who have these
• 2:52:26
  Speaker 8: like stars like you guys who are willing to have
• 2:52:28
  Speaker 8: us on and and and just you know, it's incredible
• 2:52:32
  Speaker 8: and with literally no job expectation. The job is make
• 2:52:41
  Speaker 8: stuff and if it works, we'll keep you. If it doesn't,
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 8: you're gone. But there's no, it's no, it's it's it's
• 2:52:49
  Speaker 8: the most vague, vacuum oriented job I've ever had in
• 2:52:55
  Speaker 8: my life. There's no I don't have a daily checklist
• 2:52:58
  Speaker 8: of things to do. I don't have you know, hours,
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 8: I don't have a fucking outfit that I have to
• 2:53:05
  Speaker 8: wear to work. I don't know. I don't even have
• 2:53:07
  Speaker 8: a desk. It's a it's it's as nebulous as it
• 2:53:11
  Speaker 8: could possibly be, and there's so much freedom, which can
• 2:53:15
  Speaker 8: make it hard. It can make it for some people.
• 2:53:17
  Speaker 8: It can make it like I don't know what to do.
• 2:53:20
  Speaker 8: I wish someone was overseeing this a little bit more
• 2:53:22
  Speaker 8: and like pushing me. But for me, it's like, you know,
• 2:53:25
  Speaker 8: I don't know, really know when inspiration is going to strike.
• 2:53:28
  Speaker 8: And you know, I got asked as a Bubble person
• 2:53:32
  Speaker 8: to fill in for Stu Finer on surviving Barstool ended up,
• 2:53:35
  Speaker 8: you know, creating huge controversy there, and then was able
• 2:53:40
  Speaker 8: to write blogs about it for a week which were
• 2:53:42
  Speaker 8: just like so easy to me, for me to write,
• 2:53:45
  Speaker 8: and I had so much fun writing those and writing
• 2:53:48
  Speaker 8: about you guys, and like, people I know can fucking
• 2:53:50
  Speaker 8: take it and they are gonna like.
• 2:53:51
  Speaker 4: The blog you did on us was incredible I tell.
• 2:53:55
  Speaker 2: Them as last night, I was like, I don't think
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 2: I've ever heard the analogy of like having a snowman.
• 2:53:59
  Speaker 2: Thing with my eyes being so.
• 2:54:01
  Speaker 8: Small, I said, a snowman made entirely of buttons. Yeah,
• 2:54:06
  Speaker 8: because most snowmen will have coal and this kid had
• 2:54:09
  Speaker 8: run out.
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 2: This kid had to run out just use buttons to
• 2:54:13
  Speaker 2: make Yeah, dude, I was reading that. Yeah. I was like,
• 2:54:16
  Speaker 2: oh god, because what was funny is you posted that
• 2:54:19
  Speaker 2: blog and we were just on the phone for probably
• 2:54:20
  Speaker 2: a good I had you on the phone for forty minutes,
• 2:54:23
  Speaker 2: just talking straight, just talking surviving strat Yeah.
• 2:54:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, just to the point where it is.
• 2:54:29
  Speaker 2: Like I got to bounce all right, all right, Will.
• 2:54:32
  Speaker 8: Will thought I had access to a fucking time machine
• 2:54:35
  Speaker 8: to go back and do it.
• 2:54:36
  Speaker 4: All over the right you kids, will at the right time. Yeah,
• 2:54:40
  Speaker 4: stuck a strategy.
• 2:54:42
  Speaker 2: It's so much. I'm consumed by this show.
• 2:54:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's awesome. And I guess my point being people
• 2:54:51
  Speaker 8: who know that this is a great job and feel
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 8: very fortunate as we are, don't there their biggest fear
• 2:54:57
  Speaker 8: is losing the job. Right Understandably, that happened to me.
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 8: I lost the job. I got fired, I got humiliated
• 2:55:05
  Speaker 8: on of my own.
• 2:55:06
  Speaker 2: Doing on a national scale.
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 8: I never would have thought the Washington Post would deem
• 2:55:12
  Speaker 8: my mistake worth publishing in their fucking newspaper, you know.
• 2:55:18
  Speaker 8: And so I I had. I had the worst thing
• 2:55:23
  Speaker 8: happen with the retina, not the worst, but like the
• 2:55:26
  Speaker 8: catastrophe happened right, and it took me three years, but
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 8: I came back from it. So now a lot of
• 2:55:35
  Speaker 8: the fears that I used to have, a lot of
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 8: the things that used to piss me off, the little comments,
• 2:55:41
  Speaker 8: the feedback, the reddit.
• 2:55:43
  Speaker 2: It just it doesn't make as much noise. It doesn't
• 2:55:46
  Speaker 2: move the needle for me. Makes it kind of nice, right,
• 2:55:50
  Speaker 2: It's that is nice.
• 2:55:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it is nice, and I and I feel safer.
• 2:55:54
  Speaker 8: I mean, Dave, you know, joked on the unnamed show
• 2:55:59
  Speaker 8: about you know, to close the loop on the new
• 2:56:04
  Speaker 8: contract hanging over my head as I entered surviving barstool.
• 2:56:10
  Speaker 8: Dave joked about on the unnamed show because they were
• 2:56:12
  Speaker 8: giving him shit for it. How I got the email
• 2:56:14
  Speaker 8: right after I got eliminated the show gave Dave the
• 2:56:16
  Speaker 8: idol and I had a new contract in my inbox
• 2:56:19
  Speaker 8: which I've been waiting for, and he revealed that. Some
• 2:56:23
  Speaker 8: months ago, I had texted Dave and said, hey, can
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 8: I call you. I have something important to talk to
• 2:56:28
  Speaker 8: you about. And I called him and I said, look,
• 2:56:31
  Speaker 8: here's the deal. I'm getting divorced. I have to move
• 2:56:35
  Speaker 8: out of my apartment. I don't know if I should
• 2:56:40
  Speaker 8: stay in New York City. At this point, I had
• 2:56:42
  Speaker 8: like two months left on my contract. I was like,
• 2:56:44
  Speaker 8: I don't know if I should stay in New York.
• 2:56:46
  Speaker 8: I don't know if I should move to Chicago. I
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 8: don't know if you want to keep me on here.
• 2:56:51
  Speaker 8: And I know that this is way ahead, but I
• 2:56:54
  Speaker 8: just need your help. I need some clarity in my
• 2:56:56
  Speaker 8: life because I need to know where to sign a lease.
• 2:56:59
  Speaker 8: And I'm kind of like, I just my life is
• 2:57:02
  Speaker 8: in free fall right now. And in that moment, he
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 8: was like, I'm really sorry to hear it, but you're
• 2:57:07
  Speaker 8: in great standing. We have full intention to renew you.
• 2:57:11
  Speaker 8: You're doing good stuff. And that meant the fucking world
• 2:57:14
  Speaker 8: to me, just as it did when he fired me
• 2:57:18
  Speaker 8: and sent that text to like, just give me a
• 2:57:21
  Speaker 8: little nudge of like, And this is why, like a
• 2:57:23
  Speaker 8: lot of the time, I know Dave is a very
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 8: controversial figure to a lot of people, but off the camera,
• 2:57:29
  Speaker 8: off Mike, people will ask me like, what's he really like?
• 2:57:31
  Speaker 8: What do you think of him? And my answer is
• 2:57:34
  Speaker 8: so resolute. He he means a lot to me and
• 2:57:39
  Speaker 8: he's done a lot for me. And I get like
• 2:57:40
  Speaker 8: a little emotional thinking about it. But in my worst
• 2:57:44
  Speaker 8: moments of all people, Dave has lifted me.
• 2:57:47
  Speaker 4: So he's got any unique way of being supportive home?
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's got up. You know, he's got a heart.
• 2:57:54
  Speaker 2: So uh you bubbling up? Almost got a little tear
• 2:57:57
  Speaker 2: in my Yeah. Yeah. Oh well, now have you been doing?
• 2:58:01
  Speaker 2: You're obviously a very funny cat. You're a comedian like
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 2: you laugh a lot, you do all the things, You're
• 2:58:05
  Speaker 2: traveling everywhere. But to go off that you mentioned getting divorced,
• 2:58:08
  Speaker 2: being in your lowest moments, and I also saw you
• 2:58:11
  Speaker 2: on New Year's post on your story. I don't know
• 2:58:14
  Speaker 2: if you were trying to be funny as well, but
• 2:58:16
  Speaker 2: I knew that there were some serious behind it where
• 2:58:18
  Speaker 2: you're like sitting on the stairs and you're holding you're drinking,
• 2:58:20
  Speaker 2: You're like everybody's out there. I don't feel like I
• 2:58:21
  Speaker 2: have any type of conversation to offer. Yeah, how have
• 2:58:24
  Speaker 2: you been doing.
• 2:58:25
  Speaker 8: Look, you know, I don't think it's any secret that
• 2:58:30
  Speaker 8: for however I present on paper, I would say my
• 2:58:32
  Speaker 8: brain is both my like my great tool and my
• 2:58:36
  Speaker 8: most malfunctioning piece of equipment. I'm emotional, I'm sensitive. I'm
• 2:58:43
  Speaker 8: prone to real bouts of depression, and I've been pretty
• 2:58:47
  Speaker 8: open about this. And obviously, you know, going through divorce sucked.
• 2:58:57
  Speaker 8: My ex wife is remains my favorite person in the world.
• 2:59:01
  Speaker 8: We are great friends to this day, which is a
• 2:59:04
  Speaker 8: weird and unique parallel I think between me and Dave
• 2:59:06
  Speaker 8: because he says the same about his x Y. But
• 2:59:10
  Speaker 8: it still made it very hard. You know, I lost
• 2:59:12
  Speaker 8: my infrastructure, I lost my world. I had to move out,
• 2:59:15
  Speaker 8: and I was just kind of like totally lost. And
• 2:59:19
  Speaker 8: the past year, the last half of this year was
• 2:59:21
  Speaker 8: just a nightmare.
• 2:59:22
  Speaker 2: It sucked.
• 2:59:24
  Speaker 8: And it wasn't until I like really took some serious
• 2:59:28
  Speaker 8: steps to writing the Ship that I finally felt like
• 2:59:33
  Speaker 8: some hope again and whatever. And that post that I
• 2:59:36
  Speaker 8: posted on New Year's I was texting with Sass and
• 2:59:40
  Speaker 8: I was like, Dude, New Year's Eve is the worst
• 2:59:41
  Speaker 8: fucking holiday ever. I don't remember a time that I
• 2:59:44
  Speaker 8: didn't feel shitty on New Year's Eve and he was like,
• 2:59:48
  Speaker 8: he responded the same, and I took a picture. I
• 2:59:50
  Speaker 8: was sitting in a stairwell to get away from the party,
• 2:59:52
  Speaker 8: just sipping a tequila soda, and I was like, I'm
• 2:59:55
  Speaker 8: literally sitting in a stairwell by myself to avoid all
• 2:59:59
  Speaker 8: these people who are like happily reflecting. And my entire
• 3:00:01
  Speaker 8: Instagram timeline was filled with carousels of people being like,
• 3:00:05
  Speaker 8: what a great year twenty twenty four was. Here's what
• 3:00:07
  Speaker 8: I did. I traveled to Venice, I got engaged, we
• 3:00:10
  Speaker 8: got pregnant. I did this. I had leaps forward in
• 3:00:12
  Speaker 8: my life and I was like, I bet you there's
• 3:00:15
  Speaker 8: a lot of people out there that do not look
• 3:00:18
  Speaker 8: fondly on the last year of their life. And I
• 3:00:21
  Speaker 8: wrote this caption. I started just writing it and it
• 3:00:24
  Speaker 8: was like a little bit sad and kind of self pitying,
• 3:00:29
  Speaker 8: and initially I was just trying to make it funny,
• 3:00:31
  Speaker 8: and then I ended it with this sort of optimistic
• 3:00:34
  Speaker 8: look forward of like, here's to all the people for
• 3:00:37
  Speaker 8: whom twenty twenty four sucked, but who continue to believe
• 3:00:40
  Speaker 8: that somehow next year may be our year. And I
• 3:00:43
  Speaker 8: wasn't going to post it because I was drunk, and
• 3:00:45
  Speaker 8: I was like, don't post drunk on Year's Eve. Don't
• 3:00:49
  Speaker 8: like writing something that is like whiny and petulant and
• 3:00:53
  Speaker 8: you know, sad. But the thought that people might relate
• 3:01:00
  Speaker 8: and feel like, you know, there's another person out there
• 3:01:03
  Speaker 8: whose content I consume, whose life has sucked to and
• 3:01:08
  Speaker 8: who hates this holiday, is not feeling great right now,
• 3:01:11
  Speaker 8: but is looking forward. Maybe that'll resonate. And I posted it.
• 3:01:16
  Speaker 8: It is the most viewed Instagram story I've ever had.
• 3:01:19
  Speaker 8: I've two hundred and sixty thousand followers. One hundred and
• 3:01:21
  Speaker 8: forty thousand people saw that story. I got thousands of
• 3:01:26
  Speaker 8: dms from people being like, dude, this was the worst
• 3:01:30
  Speaker 8: year of my life. Wife of twenty years hit me
• 3:01:33
  Speaker 8: with divorce papers out of nowhere, took the two kids,
• 3:01:36
  Speaker 8: like I didn't see it coming, lost my job, like
• 3:01:39
  Speaker 8: got relapsed on a drug. Whatever it's been hell. This
• 3:01:42
  Speaker 8: means a lot to me. I'm there for you, You're
• 3:01:44
  Speaker 8: there for me, And like those are messages.
• 3:01:47
  Speaker 2: You don't think about.
• 3:01:49
  Speaker 8: You just think you're a fuck. I think I'm a
• 3:01:50
  Speaker 8: clown in the wind, you know, writing my dumb blogs
• 3:01:54
  Speaker 8: doing I don't think my job is important. I don't
• 3:01:57
  Speaker 8: think I'm doing a lot. I'm not some motivational speaker,
• 3:02:00
  Speaker 8: some leader of men. But to get DMS like that,
• 3:02:06
  Speaker 8: you know you're it, doesn't It makes me think that
• 3:02:11
  Speaker 8: being honest online can be helpful.
• 3:02:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:02:17
  Speaker 4: It's a different level of vulnerability though, when you have
• 3:02:18
  Speaker 4: the following you do and you decide to be that
• 3:02:20
  Speaker 4: kind of vulnerable, because then there's always the fear of
• 3:02:22
  Speaker 4: like what if it isn't received the way you wish
• 3:02:24
  Speaker 4: it was received?
• 3:02:25
  Speaker 2: Totally?
• 3:02:26
  Speaker 8: And yeah, I I by the way I approach it
• 3:02:29
  Speaker 8: with humility. I don't. I don't think I'm on a
• 3:02:34
  Speaker 8: pedestal rehabilitating the frayed nerves of some lost army of
• 3:02:39
  Speaker 8: poor souls. I I know that I'm just like all
• 3:02:45
  Speaker 8: these people. I'm flawed and broken, but you know, fuck it, man,
• 3:02:51
  Speaker 8: life can be tough, but like, don't don't give up.
• 3:02:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah that's it is that simple, Just keep trying.
• 3:02:58
  Speaker 2: I think that authentic, authentic city is awesome because also
• 3:03:01
  Speaker 2: in the in the interesting too, it's like the season
• 3:03:04
  Speaker 2: of Tires comes out like you're doing well in comedy,
• 3:03:06
  Speaker 2: Like you would assume looking at Francis on the outside,
• 3:03:09
  Speaker 2: that everything is.
• 3:03:12
  Speaker 4: More than even the way you talk about divorce, it's
• 3:03:14
  Speaker 4: like you almost talk about it. At least when I
• 3:03:16
  Speaker 4: saw you it surviving, you'd be like, yeah, divorced, but
• 3:03:18
  Speaker 4: you just kind of let it roll off to where
• 3:03:20
  Speaker 4: I walk away from the conversation. I'm my damn Like
• 3:03:23
  Speaker 4: I would not be feeling that way if I was
• 3:03:24
  Speaker 4: being divorced right now. But it seems like Francis is
• 3:03:26
  Speaker 4: really just taking everything had joke about it just to
• 3:03:30
  Speaker 4: get it left.
• 3:03:34
  Speaker 8: It's a coping mechanism. I think a lot of of
• 3:03:38
  Speaker 8: us do that, especially comedians, want to assign humor to
• 3:03:43
  Speaker 8: tragedy as a way of not, you know, showing themselves.
• 3:03:46
  Speaker 8: But I'm very lucky in that my ex wife is
• 3:03:51
  Speaker 8: a great person and we were able to navigate it
• 3:03:54
  Speaker 8: without fangs and claws and and somehow remain great friends throughout. So,
• 3:03:59
  Speaker 8: you know, all credit to her, and I am now
• 3:04:05
  Speaker 8: to a point where I can speak more positively about
• 3:04:09
  Speaker 8: the experience. And but you know, for a while, I
• 3:04:12
  Speaker 8: was just like, Yeah.
• 3:04:15
  Speaker 4: It's interesting when you kind of just going through life
• 3:04:18
  Speaker 4: and seeing a bunch of people and you think, all
• 3:04:19
  Speaker 4: this person's doing great, this person's not doing great, and
• 3:04:21
  Speaker 4: you can kind of like feel it in that moment
• 3:04:23
  Speaker 4: and you kind of realize that, like everyone truly is
• 3:04:25
  Speaker 4: going through something like my twenty twenty four I had
• 3:04:27
  Speaker 4: a lot of shit that I could I think it's
• 3:04:29
  Speaker 4: like how you feel it, how what lends you decide
• 3:04:31
  Speaker 4: to look through it is because there's a lot of
• 3:04:32
  Speaker 4: good things that happen in twenty four for me, But
• 3:04:35
  Speaker 4: at the same time, there's like five or six things
• 3:04:36
  Speaker 4: I could probably look at and be like, god, damn,
• 3:04:38
  Speaker 4: I could easily frame twenty twenty four is a bad year,
• 3:04:41
  Speaker 4: and it's like all like a how you view it
• 3:04:43
  Speaker 4: type of thing, And I mean there's some things you
• 3:04:46
  Speaker 4: can't come back from. There's some things like the damn
• 3:04:48
  Speaker 4: as you're getting that are like, holy shit, twenty years married,
• 3:04:50
  Speaker 4: someone just slaps your divorce papers, relapsing on a drug,
• 3:04:53
  Speaker 4: those types of things or are massive nothing like I had.
• 3:04:55
  Speaker 4: But it's just sometimes you have to like try and
• 3:04:59
  Speaker 4: do your best look at something in a positive light,
• 3:05:02
  Speaker 4: regardless of how bleak it might seem.
• 3:05:03
  Speaker 2: Totally totally uh and what choice do we have, right?
• 3:05:09
  Speaker 8: Do you know what I mean? Like we are creators.
• 3:05:12
  Speaker 8: We have you guys have two podcast episodes a week.
• 3:05:16
  Speaker 8: That need to be on time.
• 3:05:18
  Speaker 2: I have.
• 3:05:19
  Speaker 8: I you know, as as much as I know Dave
• 3:05:21
  Speaker 8: would give me the leash to take a couple of
• 3:05:24
  Speaker 8: weeks to fucking lick my wounds, I don't. I don't
• 3:05:28
  Speaker 8: want to disappear from the conversation. I know that this
• 3:05:32
  Speaker 8: fucking river keeps flowing with or without you. So in
• 3:05:36
  Speaker 8: the face of you know, real shit, you gotta bear
• 3:05:40
  Speaker 8: up and make stuff.
• 3:05:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the sun's gonna rise. Yeah, no matter what,
• 3:05:45
  Speaker 2: it was gonna move.
• 3:05:47
  Speaker 8: So you know, I just hit my marks and tried
• 3:05:50
  Speaker 8: to keep doing the job. And I would say more
• 3:05:53
  Speaker 8: than anything, almost the job was what like gave me
• 3:05:56
  Speaker 8: purpose and continuity and ructure.
• 3:06:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a break from you know, the hell
• 3:06:04
  Speaker 2: you're in outside of those walls.
• 3:06:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 3:06:08
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you sharing that with us.
• 3:06:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Absolutely. Uh. I don't really have any reason anymore
• 3:06:16
  Speaker 8: to hide much. I don't know why I've kind of
• 3:06:20
  Speaker 8: reached this like terminal velocity of transparency, and uh, I'm
• 3:06:26
  Speaker 8: not I don't know why I did that. I mean,
• 3:06:28
  Speaker 8: I know that there are some things that I should
• 3:06:30
  Speaker 8: probably keep private, but honestly, when you when you get
• 3:06:36
  Speaker 8: the messages, I almost feel like I owe it to
• 3:06:41
  Speaker 8: people to, like, you know, like a while people.
• 3:06:45
  Speaker 2: Are watching, people are following along pretty closely and resonate
• 3:06:48
  Speaker 2: with the words you're saying. Yeah, and they don't just
• 3:06:51
  Speaker 2: see you as you know, the clown show that you
• 3:06:53
  Speaker 2: have fantasize in your head, like people expect me just
• 3:06:55
  Speaker 2: to be funny all the time.
• 3:06:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, And I think it also just lends depth,
• 3:07:01
  Speaker 8: depth to sort of the character that I've developed, and
• 3:07:06
  Speaker 8: as funny as it is to pay me as a
• 3:07:09
  Speaker 8: sociopath and a psychopath, like reminding people that I have
• 3:07:13
  Speaker 8: empathy and be sad as if people actually thought I
• 3:07:17
  Speaker 8: was a real legitimate sociopath. It's kind of funny.
• 3:07:20
  Speaker 4: If it's put out there, people believe it. People still
• 3:07:22
  Speaker 4: think I did Jeffrey Starr to this moment. In this moment,
• 3:07:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, we had a night in.
• 3:07:28
  Speaker 8: A couple entanglements, but dude, living in that gray area
• 3:07:33
  Speaker 8: is the sweets kind of fun. I gotta tell you
• 3:07:35
  Speaker 8: one thing I've learned and keep sucking Dave's dick is
• 3:07:39
  Speaker 8: something he taught me. He's like the greatest compliment I've
• 3:07:41
  Speaker 8: ever been given is when someone was like, I don't
• 3:07:45
  Speaker 8: know where Dave Portnoy, the person ends and El Presidente starts.
• 3:07:53
  Speaker 8: He's blended his character with who he is so seamlessly
• 3:07:56
  Speaker 8: that you kind of just take it all as one.
• 3:08:00
  Speaker 8: And that gives you so much license and like playground
• 3:08:05
  Speaker 8: to work with because nothing's off limits and people will
• 3:08:10
  Speaker 8: laugh when they're nervous, when they're unsure if you're kidding
• 3:08:13
  Speaker 8: or not. And I love I love that. Like my
• 3:08:18
  Speaker 8: favorite content I've ever made is stuff that like draws
• 3:08:23
  Speaker 8: a line and causes people to like argue both sides
• 3:08:28
  Speaker 8: and neither side really knows if I'm kidding. That's the
• 3:08:33
  Speaker 8: traffic video. Yeah, it's me stopping traffic and being like,
• 3:08:36
  Speaker 8: I'm a hero. You can't cut and half the world
• 3:08:41
  Speaker 8: is like, thank you, you are a hero. Finally someone
• 3:08:44
  Speaker 8: stood up. I've always been too scared to do that.
• 3:08:46
  Speaker 8: And then the other half are like, fuck you, I'll
• 3:08:48
  Speaker 8: kill you if you ever do this in Detroit, and
• 3:08:52
  Speaker 8: like how dare you?
• 3:08:53
  Speaker 2: You? You know?
• 3:08:54
  Speaker 8: Hall monitor God, and you just step back, you step back,
• 3:08:59
  Speaker 8: and you them to me like decipher what they've seen
• 3:09:04
  Speaker 8: through their own lens. It's like looking at a very
• 3:09:07
  Speaker 8: confusing painting, yeah, and being.
• 3:09:10
  Speaker 2: Like this is what I see and your close close
• 3:09:12
  Speaker 2: fans are laughing because they understand the masters well they do,
• 3:09:14
  Speaker 2: and they don't like it doesn't really matter, they can
• 3:09:17
  Speaker 2: as long as it just like moves something.
• 3:09:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah, makes them feel the need to like weigh in. Yeah,
• 3:09:24
  Speaker 8: you've you've provoked something, You've stirred something. That's my favorite, dude.
• 3:09:30
  Speaker 4: One of my favorite things about Dave is his ability
• 3:09:32
  Speaker 4: when shit is like hitting the fan, like the sex
• 3:09:34
  Speaker 4: tape thing during twenty twenty, the whole like Me to
• 3:09:38
  Speaker 4: cancel culture thing like Dave is the perfect person to
• 3:09:41
  Speaker 4: cancel and anything that came up at any point, it
• 3:09:43
  Speaker 4: would be like he instead of like having a like
• 3:09:47
  Speaker 4: statement put out like every other celebrity did, he would
• 3:09:50
  Speaker 4: just get in from of a camera and be like,
• 3:09:51
  Speaker 4: this happened. This is what actually happened. I can show
• 3:09:54
  Speaker 4: receipts for this and basically just fight against the resistance
• 3:09:58
  Speaker 4: of whatever people were trying to bring them down for. Yeah,
• 3:10:00
  Speaker 4: and that I think that stirred up a lot of things.
• 3:10:03
  Speaker 4: You see Shannon Sharp the way he had with his
• 3:10:04
  Speaker 4: little Instagram live, he ends up going to talk about
• 3:10:07
  Speaker 4: it right away as opposed to getting behind lawyers or
• 3:10:10
  Speaker 4: whatever might have possibly happen, and Dave's a big reason
• 3:10:12
  Speaker 4: why people are now just getting in front of things
• 3:10:14
  Speaker 4: when they know they've done nothing wrong.
• 3:10:15
  Speaker 8: I agree. I think he's earned that. That's a that's
• 3:10:20
  Speaker 8: a tough thing to build, where it's like, we expect
• 3:10:25
  Speaker 8: you to address everything head on. You know, he said
• 3:10:28
  Speaker 8: on the Unnamed show, who was he talking about? I
• 3:10:31
  Speaker 8: think he was talking about Grace leaving and someone was like, no, Nda,
• 3:10:35
  Speaker 8: you can talk about this, and he goes, I'm not
• 3:10:37
  Speaker 8: an NDA guy. Everything's on the table for Davey, you know.
• 3:10:41
  Speaker 8: And I think that has infused in me, as I say,
• 3:10:46
  Speaker 8: I have not I'm complete transparency. That's just like being
• 3:10:49
  Speaker 8: groomed in the school of barstool. But like it would
• 3:10:55
  Speaker 8: be so antithetical to who we know Dave to be
• 3:10:59
  Speaker 8: if something came out about him or another person and
• 3:11:03
  Speaker 8: he was like, I can't talk about that.
• 3:11:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I don't
• 3:11:07
  Speaker 2: even know what antithetical means, but I think I picked
• 3:11:10
  Speaker 2: it up through the sentence he was saying.
• 3:11:12
  Speaker 8: Smooth, who know him to be?
• 3:11:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, antithetical is a great word, thank you, phenomenal. The
• 3:11:19
  Speaker 4: whole vocabulary is awesome. But yeah, David is just enough
• 3:11:22
  Speaker 4: of an asshole, but he's like he stands on everything
• 3:11:25
  Speaker 4: he says. He doesn't do anything behind closed doors. So
• 3:11:28
  Speaker 4: with the no NDA thing, it's like, y'all, go ahead,
• 3:11:30
  Speaker 4: antithetical that that popped up for you appreciate that with him, Like, yeah,
• 3:11:35
  Speaker 4: the no NDA thing, it's like, yeah, Dave has nothing
• 3:11:37
  Speaker 4: to hide behind because he's the same person everywhere. Yeah,
• 3:11:40
  Speaker 4: so there's no there's no reason to be like you
• 3:11:41
  Speaker 4: got to hide this, that and the other.
• 3:11:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, should we should we pivot? Let's pivot.
• 3:11:47
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to ask you about the uh,
• 3:11:51
  Speaker 2: the Las Vegas bombing.
• 3:11:53
  Speaker 4: Oh god, okay, have you listened to Sean Ryan podcast
• 3:11:58
  Speaker 4: at all? No, have you do into this world at all?
• 3:12:01
  Speaker 8: Conspiracies eries?
• 3:12:03
  Speaker 2: Not really?
• 3:12:04
  Speaker 8: I don't what was it a conspiracy theory? However, what
• 3:12:07
  Speaker 8: would you what would you call that world? I don't know,
• 3:12:11
  Speaker 8: so I'm not I'm not calling him a conspiracy theorist.
• 3:12:14
  Speaker 8: I assumed that that's what you meant, like, let's say,
• 3:12:17
  Speaker 8: alternative explanations for phenomena that is to us.
• 3:12:21
  Speaker 4: I had no idea Will was going to do that.
• 3:12:23
  Speaker 4: I kind of jumped in in like an improv sense.
• 3:12:25
  Speaker 4: Of being like, let's just keep this going, so we'll
• 3:12:27
  Speaker 4: go on.
• 3:12:28
  Speaker 2: I just feel like I feel like it was we
• 3:12:30
  Speaker 2: were coming to a point where we could pivot the
• 3:12:32
  Speaker 2: conversation totally. I feel like the talk, the talk of
• 3:12:34
  Speaker 2: the internet has been that Vegas bombing. Was it like
• 3:12:37
  Speaker 2: an inside job, a reverse sy y op? The car
• 3:12:40
  Speaker 2: blowing up the frame by frame? Was the guy dead?
• 3:12:43
  Speaker 8: Is he really dead?
• 3:12:44
  Speaker 4: Have you looked Have you looked into this stuff at all?
• 3:12:46
  Speaker 8: Can I be honest with you. I do not like
• 3:12:49
  Speaker 8: watching videos of people dying.
• 3:12:52
  Speaker 2: So there's a rumor that he was potentially already dead.
• 3:12:55
  Speaker 2: And the smart car drove itself up there real quick.
• 3:12:58
  Speaker 2: And you never went through like the Gordon dot com
• 3:13:00
  Speaker 2: you know what?
• 3:13:01
  Speaker 8: That ship and that by the way, every.
• 3:13:05
  Speaker 2: Guy, two Girls, one cup.
• 3:13:07
  Speaker 8: I hate that ship. People would prank me with it.
• 3:13:10
  Speaker 8: They'd be like, dude, check out this video of my kickflip.
• 3:13:14
  Speaker 2: And then it's a girl sh every kid, every kid, guy,
• 3:13:20
  Speaker 2: it's just salad right now paying Olympics. No, no, fuck,
• 3:13:24
  Speaker 2: all of that there was all that.
• 3:13:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like, did you went through that too?
• 3:13:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 3:13:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe in Nebraska you and the boys get together
• 3:13:30
  Speaker 4: and it's like for whatever, reason somebody pulls pulls a
• 3:13:32
  Speaker 4: laptop and do just fucked up videos.
• 3:13:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, somebody shooting a NERF a NERF football
• 3:13:37
  Speaker 2: out of there, pussy. Hey, you guys have seen that, right.
• 3:13:44
  Speaker 2: I love how you whispered pussy. That is so funny.
• 3:13:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, So here's a quick breakdown from what I've gathered
• 3:13:49
  Speaker 4: on the New Orleans thing. This guy who was in
• 3:13:52
  Speaker 4: this like was in the army, was in like a
• 3:13:54
  Speaker 4: green beret one of those branches.
• 3:13:56
  Speaker 8: This is New Orleans.
• 3:13:58
  Speaker 4: What did I say, You said New Orleans. Okay, well,
• 3:14:00
  Speaker 4: he was also in the same branch. However, I am
• 3:14:02
  Speaker 4: I was talking about Las Vegas. This guy was apparently
• 3:14:06
  Speaker 4: based on the Sean Ryan podcast that we watched. Somebody
• 3:14:08
  Speaker 4: sent his guests and emails. I'm assuming it's this guy Alex,
• 3:14:12
  Speaker 4: who is like, I'm I know all this information. I'm
• 3:14:15
  Speaker 4: going to do X, Y and Z do not release
• 3:14:17
  Speaker 4: any of this stuff till January January first, or until
• 3:14:19
  Speaker 4: after December thirty first. So January first happens. And I
• 3:14:23
  Speaker 4: guess what people are trying to say now is that
• 3:14:27
  Speaker 4: this was not a terrorist terroist attack, the Las Vegas thing.
• 3:14:30
  Speaker 2: It was actually like.
• 3:14:31
  Speaker 4: A a reminder or like a there was not like
• 3:14:36
  Speaker 4: ill intent of like blowing something up because you're gonna
• 3:14:38
  Speaker 4: take a tesla that Elon Musk essentially essentially brags saying.
• 3:14:43
  Speaker 2: This is bulletproof.
• 3:14:44
  Speaker 4: Joe Rogan shoots an arrow, doesn't even barely dent the
• 3:14:47
  Speaker 4: whole entire thing and sets off fireworks, and then this
• 3:14:50
  Speaker 4: guy gets charred inside of it. So the guy they
• 3:14:53
  Speaker 4: say that did do this, they took the charred body
• 3:14:57
  Speaker 4: of the tesla and pulled the DNA from him, and
• 3:15:00
  Speaker 4: the DNA against the alleged guy who did it, Sono,
• 3:15:04
  Speaker 4: the DNA did not match at all. So they're thinking
• 3:15:06
  Speaker 4: this this whole little something about October seventh, like anything.
• 3:15:10
  Speaker 4: He wants chiming show bro the gun as well. Suream,
• 3:15:13
  Speaker 4: you had a great point about go ahead and grabbed that, Mike.
• 3:15:15
  Speaker 4: What was the point about the desert eagle?
• 3:15:18
  Speaker 7: So in forensics they said in every case that there
• 3:15:21
  Speaker 7: was a suicide attempt with a desert eagle upon the
• 3:15:24
  Speaker 7: person losing their life. A desert eagle is such a
• 3:15:27
  Speaker 7: high caliber pistol it would launch out at the hand.
• 3:15:30
  Speaker 7: They were like twenty feet almost The pistol was found
• 3:15:33
  Speaker 7: in his lap in the car, so they were saying,
• 3:15:37
  Speaker 7: that's pretty much impossible unless it hit off a bunch
• 3:15:40
  Speaker 7: of different surfaces and then just landed.
• 3:15:42
  Speaker 2: In his lap, which I mean, I mean JFK, right
• 3:15:45
  Speaker 2: is what I read. It feels like the yeah, allegedly
• 3:15:50
  Speaker 2: either way, like the best part of this. I know
• 3:15:52
  Speaker 2: I brought the Sean Ryan thing. I didn't. I haven't
• 3:15:54
  Speaker 2: gotten to listen to everybody's like, go listen to the
• 3:15:56
  Speaker 2: first thirty to forty five minutes, So I've just seen
• 3:15:58
  Speaker 2: the cliff the cliff notes on X and in my mind,
• 3:16:01
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking of Francis. I'm sure Francis has a little
• 3:16:04
  Speaker 2: has a little angle or a thought on the conspiracy
• 3:16:06
  Speaker 2: s of because everybody's playing there's so many different conversations
• 3:16:09
  Speaker 2: going on around it on if Sean Ryan's kind of
• 3:16:12
  Speaker 2: he's got fake stuff going out there, if it's real,
• 3:16:15
  Speaker 2: like all the sides are coming out, all the sides
• 3:16:17
  Speaker 2: are coming out to where I have no clue what's.
• 3:16:19
  Speaker 4: Real, no idea what's real.
• 3:16:20
  Speaker 2: But that's the fun part about podcast.
• 3:16:22
  Speaker 4: You can have to say things and hope that somebody
• 3:16:24
  Speaker 4: who's in the comments knows more than you do. Sure,
• 3:16:26
  Speaker 4: and you see a fun comment on YouTube in a
• 3:16:27
  Speaker 4: little bit that I can now digest and say.
• 3:16:29
  Speaker 2: Next week, and you hope the guest talks more than
• 3:16:31
  Speaker 2: we do so we don't sound like.
• 3:16:32
  Speaker 4: It're like, oh, because we don't want to be those
• 3:16:35
  Speaker 4: guys right now. Also, New Orleans, Bourbon Street, they have
• 3:16:38
  Speaker 4: barricades where cars can't.
• 3:16:40
  Speaker 8: Get to.
• 3:16:42
  Speaker 2: The dudes who just drove through the street. Usually those
• 3:16:44
  Speaker 2: barricades are up and protected of that. For some reason,
• 3:16:48
  Speaker 2: they were down that night getting.
• 3:16:49
  Speaker 4: Reinforced for the super Bowl. But why would they get
• 3:16:52
  Speaker 4: reinforced the night before?
• 3:16:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the bulgeme. Do you think that's a coincidence?
• 3:16:58
  Speaker 8: What do you think, Golle?
• 3:17:02
  Speaker 2: Do you think we're safe in America right now? What
• 3:17:08
  Speaker 2: do you think of the drones off the coast?
• 3:17:10
  Speaker 8: Is taking a real twist? Speaking of Twisted t.
• 3:17:15
  Speaker 4: One, normal stuff, phenomenal stuff. Twisted question this week is
• 3:17:18
  Speaker 4: brought to you by Twisted Tea. Is a government fucking us?
• 3:17:22
  Speaker 2: Francis?
• 3:17:23
  Speaker 8: You know, Look, I think I think I sort of
• 3:17:27
  Speaker 8: process a lot of this stuff the same way that
• 3:17:30
  Speaker 8: I feel about you know, alien lifes and UFOs and
• 3:17:34
  Speaker 8: stuff like that. I bet that some of the conspiracy
• 3:17:41
  Speaker 8: stuff or alternative explanations from what the media tells us
• 3:17:45
  Speaker 8: are true or there's a kernel of truth to them.
• 3:17:49
  Speaker 8: Do I want to find out the truth?
• 3:17:54
  Speaker 2: No?
• 3:17:56
  Speaker 8: I want. I live such a short amount of time
• 3:17:59
  Speaker 8: on this earth. Choosing I have enough problems in my
• 3:18:04
  Speaker 8: own brain. Choosing willful ignorance as opposed to finding and
• 3:18:11
  Speaker 8: hunting for the absolute correct truth is a more blissful
• 3:18:17
  Speaker 8: way for me to live. Because if I did learn
• 3:18:22
  Speaker 8: through hunting through files and fucking the local library and whatever,
• 3:18:28
  Speaker 8: that the government had removed the barriers on Bourbon streets
• 3:18:33
  Speaker 8: so that some lunatic could mow down a bunch of people, Like,
• 3:18:38
  Speaker 8: what am I gonna do?
• 3:18:40
  Speaker 2: What? What? Then? Right? And then if you're too If yeah,
• 3:18:43
  Speaker 2: then you're the one who gets killed.
• 3:18:45
  Speaker 8: Or do I do I become a soapbox guyde? Do
• 3:18:48
  Speaker 8: I do I stop what I'm doing and devote my
• 3:18:52
  Speaker 8: life to pulling back the curtain? Do I join a
• 3:18:55
  Speaker 8: secret and live with this sickening truth that I know
• 3:19:00
  Speaker 8: about my government in America? That do I?
• 3:19:05
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 3:19:05
  Speaker 8: I'm not thrilled with the American government and our leaders
• 3:19:08
  Speaker 8: and all that, But like, if I believe that they're
• 3:19:14
  Speaker 8: killing our own citizens intentionally, my god, then what what
• 3:19:20
  Speaker 8: do I do. Do I apply for citizenship somewhere else?
• 3:19:23
  Speaker 8: Do I try to muster some like sect to foment insurrection,
• 3:19:27
  Speaker 8: to stage a coup? What am I supposed to do?
• 3:19:32
  Speaker 8: What do I do? Does anyone give a fuck that
• 3:19:35
  Speaker 8: I know? This?
• 3:19:36
  Speaker 2: Am I the guy?
• 3:19:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 3:19:38
  Speaker 2: So do you think the government is in on it?
• 3:19:42
  Speaker 4: Flip a coin.
• 3:19:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what he's saying. He doesn't want to get
• 3:19:44
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to We all love to flirt and try
• 3:19:47
  Speaker 2: to find out just enough to where you almost get
• 3:19:49
  Speaker 2: to that point you're like, let me fall back a
• 3:19:51
  Speaker 2: little bit. This is getting a little too Yeah, I'm
• 3:19:53
  Speaker 2: getting a little too loney about it.
• 3:19:54
  Speaker 4: To me, it's like I am the ultimate optimist when
• 3:19:57
  Speaker 4: it comes to like bat like, kind of like Burt
• 3:20:00
  Speaker 4: when Bert's like, people die, but maybe I don't die.
• 3:20:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not that dramatic, but I'm like, these things are happening.
• 3:20:06
  Speaker 4: It's like okay, but like nothing really has ever happened
• 3:20:08
  Speaker 4: to me. I think I'm gonna be okay.
• 3:20:11
  Speaker 2: Like I'm kind of thirty three years in the surface,
• 3:20:12
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of moving through and I'm unscathed a little bit.
• 3:20:16
  Speaker 4: All right, doesn't mean somebody should go do something but
• 3:20:20
  Speaker 4: it's super interesting.
• 3:20:23
  Speaker 2: All this shit is.
• 3:20:24
  Speaker 4: And I'm not taking away from anybody, like obviously people tragic,
• 3:20:27
  Speaker 4: people lost their lives. It's I'm not I know we're
• 3:20:29
  Speaker 4: trying to like joke about. It's not fucking funny, so
• 3:20:31
  Speaker 4: don't laugh.
• 3:20:32
  Speaker 2: But no, I don't think we're joking about that. It's
• 3:20:36
  Speaker 2: just because my life's worked out really damn good.
• 3:20:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like people are like, hey, Taylor, this
• 3:20:43
  Speaker 4: man thing can happen. I'm like, maybe, but I think
• 3:20:45
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be all right, and it kind of sometimes
• 3:20:47
  Speaker 4: for the most part, works out right.
• 3:20:48
  Speaker 8: I enjoy whoever they are killing is in person. We're
• 3:20:52
  Speaker 8: not having to compete with anymore.
• 3:20:55
  Speaker 4: So like you said that, Francis Ellis said that whoever.
• 3:20:59
  Speaker 8: They're killing, and I'm not it's the Bourbon street people,
• 3:21:01
  Speaker 8: but like whoever they deem if that's giving me, you know,
• 3:21:04
  Speaker 8: more job opportunities, by all means, I don't think I.
• 3:21:09
  Speaker 2: Want to say that what you're saying, No, that's your
• 3:21:13
  Speaker 2: idea of what I said. I, however, did not say that.
• 3:21:16
  Speaker 2: Ah Okay, I'm just saying sometimes I look at these
• 3:21:20
  Speaker 2: crazy things and I'm like, that's fucking nuts.
• 3:21:21
  Speaker 4: But then I think to myself, it's gonna be all.
• 3:21:23
  Speaker 2: Right, Francs. Francis is like style and blogs on us
• 3:21:27
  Speaker 2: are in real time. Right now, you're explaining yours in
• 3:21:29
  Speaker 2: like the fourth grade level. He's he's explaining Harvard level. Yeah,
• 3:21:32
  Speaker 2: Harvard level. Yeah.
• 3:21:34
  Speaker 8: So I'm putting all I'm just putting all the smoke
• 3:21:36
  Speaker 8: on him.
• 3:21:37
  Speaker 4: All all that to be said, I think conspiracy theories
• 3:21:40
  Speaker 4: are fun to look into. Yeah, they're fun, they're exciting.
• 3:21:43
  Speaker 2: Could they be true? Yes?
• 3:21:44
  Speaker 4: I your kernel analogy that was real nice, and then there's
• 3:21:47
  Speaker 4: a small little piece in there that's like, Okay, there's
• 3:21:48
  Speaker 4: probably some truth that turned into something. But to know everything,
• 3:21:52
  Speaker 4: I feel like it would cause you to go mad.
• 3:21:54
  Speaker 2: Yes. So basically what I said was, we're on the
• 3:21:56
  Speaker 2: same pit. How about the Fox Sports one? I don't
• 3:21:59
  Speaker 2: know if we should even talk about that.
• 3:22:01
  Speaker 8: Wow, we just fucking poked holes in the truth of
• 3:22:04
  Speaker 8: a fifteen person terrorist attack. But you know, joy having
• 3:22:09
  Speaker 8: sex with her coworkers.
• 3:22:11
  Speaker 2: It's too hot to handle, so talk about woman like
• 3:22:16
  Speaker 2: moving ahead.
• 3:22:17
  Speaker 4: As long as we say that, they could get us
• 3:22:20
  Speaker 4: with us saying the things we just said about that stuff.
• 3:22:22
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh, we're probably being sensitive in a lot
• 3:22:24
  Speaker 4: of ways, but we're also aware.
• 3:22:26
  Speaker 2: That we're being insensitive.
• 3:22:27
  Speaker 4: If we start going at Joy or whoever, they could
• 3:22:30
  Speaker 4: sue us.
• 3:22:31
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, how about it crazy?
• 3:22:33
  Speaker 8: Wait, I'm just saying, wait, wait, hold on a second.
• 3:22:38
  Speaker 8: If you posit things under a hypothetical or like I
• 3:22:43
  Speaker 8: think this might have happened, they can't sue you, right,
• 3:22:48
  Speaker 8: they can't sue you for libel or slander or whatever.
• 3:22:52
  Speaker 8: And by the way, the laws have become incredibly difficult
• 3:22:57
  Speaker 8: to prove libel. And now it's it's the case that
• 3:23:03
  Speaker 8: if if you, if you sue someone for libel, uh,
• 3:23:07
  Speaker 8: you have to prove that they knowingly and willingly presented
• 3:23:14
  Speaker 8: a mistruth when they knew it was a lie. So
• 3:23:18
  Speaker 8: like if a paper wrote like Taylor Lawan is a terrorist,
• 3:23:23
  Speaker 8: and you sued that paper, you'd have to find some
• 3:23:26
  Speaker 8: email from the guy who wrote the article to his
• 3:23:30
  Speaker 8: editor being like, I'm going to publish this even though
• 3:23:34
  Speaker 8: I'm making the whole thing.
• 3:23:35
  Speaker 2: Up, so we're safe, is what you're saying.
• 3:23:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, us being like uh, us being like a Fox
• 3:23:43
  Speaker 8: Sports is crazy. Like, according to what I've read, Joy
• 3:23:48
  Speaker 8: and Acho and all these people were in some weird
• 3:23:53
  Speaker 8: sexual kind of power tug of war struggle that some
• 3:23:57
  Speaker 8: other poor young woman got caught up in and and
• 3:24:00
  Speaker 8: you know, was silenced and offered crazy money for and
• 3:24:03
  Speaker 8: like you know, even if we offered some takes on that.
• 3:24:06
  Speaker 8: The other part of it is like, you guys are
• 3:24:08
  Speaker 8: a humorous podcast. You're probably protected under parody law, which
• 3:24:13
  Speaker 8: is to say we are kidding law, we're kidding, or
• 3:24:15
  Speaker 8: we can do so we can say whatever we want
• 3:24:17
  Speaker 8: that we're kidding.
• 3:24:18
  Speaker 2: We're just kidding. Yes, that's you're safe.
• 3:24:21
  Speaker 4: All right, we'll go first.
• 3:24:23
  Speaker 8: That's my understanding the law.
• 3:24:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's wild number one. It's like, you know,
• 3:24:28
  Speaker 2: something big comes out on a big corporation. We all
• 3:24:30
  Speaker 2: feed on drama and all this chaos. I think it's
• 3:24:34
  Speaker 2: funny that all of this stuff is coming out with
• 3:24:36
  Speaker 2: Acho involved, because he hasn't tweeted like the last day.
• 3:24:39
  Speaker 2: So it's like you're sitting back with your popcorn ready
• 3:24:41
  Speaker 2: to see how all these defendants, the the White exec,
• 3:24:44
  Speaker 2: Joy Taylor, how they're all going to respond to it.
• 3:24:47
  Speaker 2: But it makes me think about you ever seen the
• 3:24:49
  Speaker 2: did I Did I ask you this? Last night? The
• 3:24:51
  Speaker 2: Morning Show?
• 3:24:52
  Speaker 8: Yes?
• 3:24:52
  Speaker 2: On Apple Plus. I feel like that right, there is
• 3:24:55
  Speaker 2: the show that gives you a look inside what is
• 3:24:57
  Speaker 2: the morning corporate media. These the corporate media companies. It's
• 3:25:01
  Speaker 2: basically like Steve Fritz, all the power structure, people sleeping
• 3:25:05
  Speaker 2: with other people, blackmail, just all the stuff that we
• 3:25:08
  Speaker 2: all gravitate towards in like Netflix series. It's happening right
• 3:25:13
  Speaker 2: now with Fox Sports one, and everybody's kind of like
• 3:25:15
  Speaker 2: waiting to see how they're going to respond to all this,
• 3:25:17
  Speaker 2: because clearly all the legal documentation has come out from
• 3:25:20
  Speaker 2: this from this woman who's came out about everything on
• 3:25:22
  Speaker 2: Skip Bayless Trey Panger one point five million dollars, that's
• 3:25:26
  Speaker 2: all out there now, and everyone speculating videos are getting
• 3:25:28
  Speaker 2: deleted from profiles, people are trying to use old videos
• 3:25:31
  Speaker 2: to show all the different things the internet's doing, what
• 3:25:33
  Speaker 2: the Internet's doing, And I'm like sitting back kind of
• 3:25:36
  Speaker 2: like waiting, like, damn, how are these people going to
• 3:25:39
  Speaker 2: respond in amidst all this chaos? Right?
• 3:25:42
  Speaker 8: Look, there's a piece of this that makes this so unique,
• 3:25:49
  Speaker 8: which is that there was a woman who was involved
• 3:25:53
  Speaker 8: and knowingly involved and was using all of it for
• 3:25:57
  Speaker 8: her own benefit.
• 3:25:58
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 3:25:59
  Speaker 8: It's the first time I can remember that there has
• 3:26:02
  Speaker 8: been a corporate sexual harassment story that's broken, which wasn't
• 3:26:07
  Speaker 8: almost entirely man does bad to woman and.
• 3:26:13
  Speaker 2: He'll dominate it.
• 3:26:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think what that's what makes this riper for discussion,
• 3:26:19
  Speaker 8: for humor.
• 3:26:20
  Speaker 2: See Joy was, you know, running the show. Yeah she was,
• 3:26:24
  Speaker 2: she was moving the pieces, she was playing chess.
• 3:26:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that is a very unique alternative to
• 3:26:32
  Speaker 4: what's been usually goes on. Yes, it's just gonna be
• 3:26:35
  Speaker 4: crazy to see, Like you said, how all unfolds and
• 3:26:37
  Speaker 4: then the obvious Netflix documentary is eventually gonna come out.
• 3:26:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dude, mi.
• 3:26:48
  Speaker 5: Ab said nobody wanted to FuG jammel.
• 3:26:50
  Speaker 2: Huh. People are so funny, who hey who here and
• 3:26:58
  Speaker 2: the on the bus and squad was sweet. Would sleep
• 3:27:00
  Speaker 2: with somebody to climb the ladder. Yeah, but dude.
• 3:27:07
  Speaker 8: There is so sexually that I would not do to
• 3:27:11
  Speaker 8: some of the most unbelievably unattractive people on earth to
• 3:27:17
  Speaker 8: move forward professionally. You give me a fucking Cincinnati Bengal
• 3:27:24
  Speaker 8: and you say I have to suck this dude's toe
• 3:27:27
  Speaker 8: and I'll get one hundred grand more a year. Yeah,
• 3:27:29
  Speaker 8: I'll fucking do it. Where does this bride ethics. Ah,
• 3:27:33
  Speaker 8: get out of here, man, I'll do anything. I don't care.
• 3:27:37
  Speaker 2: Would you suck dick? You know I'm sick ask you
• 3:27:40
  Speaker 2: a question? Would you suck dick? Well? There you go?
• 3:27:43
  Speaker 2: I mean there there is a line, I guess, but
• 3:27:46
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm following you.
• 3:27:48
  Speaker 8: But you know you got something completion. Yeah, see that's tough.
• 3:27:53
  Speaker 8: Now do I have to take it down the gullet?
• 3:27:55
  Speaker 4: I'm sure you could. I'm sure it's fit.
• 3:27:57
  Speaker 8: Mm hmm.
• 3:27:58
  Speaker 2: He gives a joke, you a little bit. Wow, but
• 3:28:01
  Speaker 2: you get a million dollar raise for text time boy?
• 3:28:06
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 3:28:06
  Speaker 8: Look, I mean, fuck man? Am I crazy for like
• 3:28:11
  Speaker 8: entertaining the idea? Is that hyper gay? Or hyper motivated?
• 3:28:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 3:28:17
  Speaker 8: Am I just that ambitious? Or really tired of inching
• 3:28:21
  Speaker 8: forward by posting a post three days a week and
• 3:28:25
  Speaker 8: fucking you know?
• 3:28:27
  Speaker 2: Also, gag me out, dude.
• 3:28:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, you can shit on my forehead tonight if
• 3:28:35
  Speaker 8: it meant I could skip seven rungs on the ladder.
• 3:28:38
  Speaker 8: I'm tired of going the scenic route on my career.
• 3:28:44
  Speaker 8: Fucking jump me ahead if you're telling me I get
• 3:28:47
  Speaker 8: to headline Radio City Music Hall tomorrow in exchange for
• 3:28:51
  Speaker 8: one you know, post dinner dump on my forehead. Fucking hell.
• 3:28:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get it.
• 3:28:58
  Speaker 8: I'll get down there. I don't have that much integrity.
• 3:29:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah whatever, you heard it here first?
• 3:29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, Yeah, man, I don't think i'd uh. Those
• 3:29:10
  Speaker 2: are my couple of topics. Hot, hot, it's pretty good.
• 3:29:13
  Speaker 4: They dump on the forehead, though, for money, that doesn't
• 3:29:15
  Speaker 4: seem like a bad deal.
• 3:29:17
  Speaker 8: No, that's somehow less bad than than sucking a dick.
• 3:29:21
  Speaker 2: Somehow, that's obviously. Yeah, obvious.
• 3:29:25
  Speaker 8: Is that obvious?
• 3:29:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you take a shower, You're done. Think about it, man,
• 3:29:29
  Speaker 2: same with blowing a guy action the completion. What's the
• 3:29:32
  Speaker 2: old phrase?
• 3:29:32
  Speaker 4: Do you can paint a thousand paintings? Never be called
• 3:29:34
  Speaker 4: a painter? You stuck one piece her cocks.
• 3:29:36
  Speaker 8: I thought you were going to say you can paint
• 3:29:37
  Speaker 8: a thousand paintings, and you've still sucked a dick.
• 3:29:40
  Speaker 4: There's that too, Yeah, right, and nothing. If that's your thing.
• 3:29:44
  Speaker 4: If you want to suck, good for you. That's not
• 3:29:46
  Speaker 4: my something.
• 3:29:46
  Speaker 8: Back, We'll think of this. How many men out there
• 3:29:49
  Speaker 8: have sucked a dick for no money?
• 3:29:52
  Speaker 2: M great, I'm.
• 3:29:53
  Speaker 8: Getting paid a million dollars. I'm the richest blow jobber
• 3:29:58
  Speaker 8: there ever was right, you know, kudos to me.
• 3:30:02
  Speaker 4: There is that point.
• 3:30:03
  Speaker 2: That's a great point.
• 3:30:04
  Speaker 8: I set my price.
• 3:30:05
  Speaker 2: I did it on my terms.
• 3:30:07
  Speaker 4: That mouth's not for free. Let me ask you this
• 3:30:10
  Speaker 4: about filatio. Isn't it kind of obvious that men would
• 3:30:15
  Speaker 4: be the best at it? Anyway about it?
• 3:30:20
  Speaker 8: I think that's like, uh, that's what we all used
• 3:30:24
  Speaker 8: to say, used to say, what do you mean? Well,
• 3:30:28
  Speaker 8: it's like the idea.
• 3:30:28
  Speaker 2: That I know what I want exactly right. I know
• 3:30:31
  Speaker 2: how I would do it to myself.
• 3:30:33
  Speaker 4: Since you hit puberty and you realize that this thing
• 3:30:35
  Speaker 4: is not just for ping and you could mess with
• 3:30:37
  Speaker 4: it yourself, and you know, you can go through a
• 3:30:40
  Speaker 4: long goon session or however you're crunch for time on
• 3:30:42
  Speaker 4: an elevator or something like that. I gotta get this
• 3:30:43
  Speaker 4: out quick. I'm thinking too differently. I need to be
• 3:30:46
  Speaker 4: clear in the head. You know how to get that
• 3:30:48
  Speaker 4: done quickly. Now, it's probably similar to the same thing
• 3:30:51
  Speaker 4: that you probably go through if you want to get
• 3:30:52
  Speaker 4: things firing.
• 3:30:54
  Speaker 8: Look, I A gooning is so funny, jelking all these terms.
• 3:31:00
  Speaker 8: Have you heard of these things?
• 3:31:01
  Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, yeah, we're very advanced.
• 3:31:04
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 3:31:05
  Speaker 8: I love these fucking terms.
• 3:31:07
  Speaker 2: This is such a this podcast, this one specifically, Yeah,
• 3:31:14
  Speaker 2: we do best.
• 3:31:15
  Speaker 8: One contrary, contrary to what I may have just hinted at,
• 3:31:19
  Speaker 8: I actually have no I don't know if men buy
• 3:31:23
  Speaker 8: and large categorically are better at giving blowjobs than women.
• 3:31:27
  Speaker 8: What I would say just saying I know what I want,
• 3:31:31
  Speaker 8: so clearly I would be able to blow myself better
• 3:31:33
  Speaker 8: than a woman. Women have done things with me that
• 3:31:38
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't have ever imagined of, and I'm like, Wow,
• 3:31:45
  Speaker 8: that's new.
• 3:31:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't know. I like that.
• 3:31:46
  Speaker 8: That's deranged. That stems from a poor relationship with her father.
• 3:31:52
  Speaker 8: I have a great relationship with my dad. Maybe that
• 3:31:55
  Speaker 8: would hold me back from maybe making my mass scare
• 3:32:00
  Speaker 8: run from blowing myself, you know what I mean, treating
• 3:32:06
  Speaker 8: my mouth like a vagina, Like I don't know, I
• 3:32:11
  Speaker 8: don't I don't know what to say about that. That
• 3:32:14
  Speaker 8: would be my take, So.
• 3:32:19
  Speaker 2: On the internet, go ahead and read it.
• 3:32:23
  Speaker 7: Charm on the whole this comes from Dylan said, on
• 3:32:29
  Speaker 7: the whole, I'd say men give the better blow job
• 3:32:31
  Speaker 7: because not only do they know what they'd like, any
• 3:32:34
  Speaker 7: mansucking a dick is doing it because they genuinely enjoy it,
• 3:32:38
  Speaker 7: whether it's just for the act or to make you come.
• 3:32:40
  Speaker 7: I've enjoyed blowjobs off women over the years, but never
• 3:32:43
  Speaker 7: had a toe curling experience like I do when a
• 3:32:46
  Speaker 7: man sucks my dick.
• 3:32:48
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to edit that part out of the episode.
• 3:32:52
  Speaker 2: That's the part you ended out of the episode. Welcome.
• 3:32:56
  Speaker 8: I mean I I can find a flaw in this.
• 3:32:58
  Speaker 8: I have a flaw in this, right, So we presume
• 3:33:01
  Speaker 8: this this guy is bisexual. Uh, I think it's probably
• 3:33:10
  Speaker 8: safe Fish to say that he doesn't have a fifty
• 3:33:13
  Speaker 8: fifty indifference to being blown by a woman or a man.
• 3:33:19
  Speaker 8: So his toe curling does that come because men are
• 3:33:23
  Speaker 8: better at it? Or because he's more turned on by
• 3:33:25
  Speaker 8: the fact that a guy is blowing him than a woman.
• 3:33:28
  Speaker 2: Fair point, Thank you, thank you.
• 3:33:33
  Speaker 4: That was beautiful point.
• 3:33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, Yeah, where do we go from here?
• 3:33:39
  Speaker 4: How about Sas just taking a shot at me a
• 3:33:41
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago.
• 3:33:42
  Speaker 8: I love that, and I love that I escaped Scott
• 3:33:44
  Speaker 8: free because I actually deserved too.
• 3:33:47
  Speaker 4: But I was so focused on SAS's body frame and
• 3:33:50
  Speaker 4: now he was talking like that, I was like, this
• 3:33:52
  Speaker 4: is fucking nuts.
• 3:33:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Sas Is. You have to remember he's twenty four
• 3:33:58
  Speaker 8: and has no fear of offering some theories and opinions
• 3:34:03
  Speaker 8: that are.
• 3:34:04
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 3:34:05
  Speaker 2: What I didn't do.
• 3:34:06
  Speaker 4: What I need to do in the next six to
• 3:34:07
  Speaker 4: eight weeks is I need to go to New York
• 3:34:09
  Speaker 4: without telling anybody. Maybe just tell you and strip down
• 3:34:14
  Speaker 4: to this like a speedo or something like that, and
• 3:34:16
  Speaker 4: go into a dark room and then you bring sass
• 3:34:19
  Speaker 4: in there. But hey, we'll do some content in here.
• 3:34:20
  Speaker 4: You close the door behind him, and I put my
• 3:34:23
  Speaker 4: hands on him for a little bit so he knows,
• 3:34:24
  Speaker 4: just so he knows.
• 3:34:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not no intent, but I wanted to see it.
• 3:34:29
  Speaker 2: I want to. I want to pick him up, come
• 3:34:32
  Speaker 2: in the air a little bit, hold him down, hold
• 3:34:34
  Speaker 2: him down, say try to get out, and I'll with
• 3:34:37
  Speaker 2: one hand, I'll hold him down and I'll start.
• 3:34:38
  Speaker 4: A time around my phone. I'm like, you have one
• 3:34:40
  Speaker 4: minute and just see how long it takes him to
• 3:34:42
  Speaker 4: squirm his way out of there. Yes, yes, all that
• 3:34:45
  Speaker 4: while just wearing as minimal clothing as possible.
• 3:34:47
  Speaker 8: I'm trying.
• 3:34:48
  Speaker 4: I think that just is a better way of going.
• 3:34:51
  Speaker 2: It needs to happen, and.
• 3:34:52
  Speaker 4: That's great toes my this is SaaS. Yes that then
• 3:35:01
  Speaker 4: those nipples are insane, but a little bit of.
• 3:35:08
  Speaker 2: Would you would you say, what did you say about Taylor.
• 3:35:10
  Speaker 8: And that we call we call that the National geographic filter?
• 3:35:16
  Speaker 8: Would you say a little bit? Well, then I yeah,
• 3:35:19
  Speaker 8: because then I realized how stupid what I'd said was.
• 3:35:22
  Speaker 8: So Fights has been quietly like working out as if
• 3:35:27
  Speaker 8: he's you know, training for buds training or something like
• 3:35:30
  Speaker 8: he's and he and he sent me a workout that
• 3:35:34
  Speaker 8: he had done and I tried to go through it
• 3:35:37
  Speaker 8: top the bottom. First of all, it took me like
• 3:35:40
  Speaker 8: an hour and a half. And I'm not like screwing
• 3:35:43
  Speaker 8: around on my phone, taking long water breaks, nothing. I'm
• 3:35:46
  Speaker 8: going as kind of as quickly as I can. And
• 3:35:49
  Speaker 8: it was all like super sets, you know, different body parts,
• 3:35:55
  Speaker 8: and he was like yeah, and he kind of just
• 3:35:56
  Speaker 8: said it wasn't that hard for him, and I that
• 3:35:59
  Speaker 8: was It was on the heels of that that I
• 3:36:01
  Speaker 8: made the comment of I was like, I think Fights
• 3:36:03
  Speaker 8: might be the strongest guy at the company at this point,
• 3:36:07
  Speaker 8: and I think, I said, maybe maybe even stronger than Taylor,
• 3:36:12
  Speaker 8: And then Sas was like, oh, he's definitely stronger than that,
• 3:36:16
  Speaker 8: and I was like then I was then I was like,
• 3:36:19
  Speaker 8: I don't I don't know about that. And then I realized,
• 3:36:23
  Speaker 8: I don't think I don't think fights. I don't think
• 3:36:25
  Speaker 8: anyone's stronger than Taylor.
• 3:36:27
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think anybody is.
• 3:36:29
  Speaker 4: It's a low bar. What do you mean at the
• 3:36:32
  Speaker 4: company a barstool. It's it's like, I'm not but but but.
• 3:36:35
  Speaker 2: You're also strong. I think you're just like not.
• 3:36:37
  Speaker 4: But to their point, I am not as strong as
• 3:36:40
  Speaker 4: I used to be, not even close to as strong as.
• 3:36:41
  Speaker 2: I used to be.
• 3:36:42
  Speaker 8: Fair, but let me ask you this, Like, let's say
• 3:36:46
  Speaker 8: that you you know, you didn't have any injury reasons
• 3:36:51
  Speaker 8: for preventing you and the fucking you know, Ravens called
• 3:36:55
  Speaker 8: you tomorrow and said, like we need you for wild
• 3:36:58
  Speaker 8: Card weekend or whatever or like week you know, the
• 3:37:01
  Speaker 8: visional playoffs. How quickly can you be game ready?
• 3:37:05
  Speaker 4: Well, that's a difficult question because I'm fifty sixty pounds
• 3:37:09
  Speaker 4: less than I usually am. Yeah, but if it was
• 3:37:11
  Speaker 4: like look at that, Yeah, that's a unit right there,
• 3:37:14
  Speaker 4: hit the backside on him, showing the backside. I mean, dude,
• 3:37:20
  Speaker 4: if there was no injury issues, yeah, I'd be able.
• 3:37:24
  Speaker 2: I'd be next year.
• 3:37:25
  Speaker 4: Pull up a photo of Richie incognito. You want to see.
• 3:37:29
  Speaker 8: Said that, fuck you have. He's a fucking terrifying body.
• 3:37:33
  Speaker 4: But there's no injury issues.
• 3:37:35
  Speaker 2: Go and play.
• 3:37:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that would be. That's just a unit
• 3:37:40
  Speaker 4: of a man. That's a guy that you hnd him
• 3:37:41
  Speaker 4: one hundred ft pound dumbells. Don't tell him what the
• 3:37:43
  Speaker 4: way it is and say do twenty he'll do twenty
• 3:37:46
  Speaker 4: of curls.
• 3:37:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bench press, curl whatever.
• 3:37:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah he is.
• 3:37:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know if he ain't curling, but he is just
• 3:37:54
  Speaker 4: and that's a bad that's a fat that's a fat
• 3:37:56
  Speaker 4: richie photo.
• 3:37:57
  Speaker 2: That's gotta be.
• 3:37:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but he is maybe the strongest human
• 3:38:02
  Speaker 4: being I've ever been around in my entire life.
• 3:38:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, try Ritchie incognito, shirtless oil, very little clothing. That'll
• 3:38:11
  Speaker 8: give us a better idea. I was kidding, but that's good.
• 3:38:19
  Speaker 2: I mean he's a tank.
• 3:38:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah he is a Yeah, he's.
• 3:38:22
  Speaker 4: A fucking tank.
• 3:38:23
  Speaker 2: That's a tough photo. Wen do a TMZ photo.
• 3:38:27
  Speaker 8: So okay, Yeah, it wouldn't wait wise, it would be
• 3:38:31
  Speaker 8: an issue, but be an issue.
• 3:38:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be able to play.
• 3:38:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, if there wasn't angels, I'd still be playing.
• 3:38:37
  Speaker 8: What would be your prep over two weeks to get
• 3:38:41
  Speaker 8: game ready from this day. No, uh, no injury issues
• 3:38:46
  Speaker 8: at all. Like what would you do over two weeks?
• 3:38:48
  Speaker 8: Would you start eating a ton?
• 3:38:50
  Speaker 2: Would you do? Yeah?
• 3:38:51
  Speaker 4: My playing left tackle? Yeah, then I'd have to eat
• 3:38:55
  Speaker 4: an exorbitan amount of food. I would have to have
• 3:38:58
  Speaker 4: three to four shots of olive oil a day because
• 3:39:01
  Speaker 4: that's just calories. I would have three heavy calorie dense
• 3:39:06
  Speaker 4: meals along with.
• 3:39:06
  Speaker 2: Three shakes as well.
• 3:39:07
  Speaker 4: And I bet you can gain shot proby can get
• 3:39:10
  Speaker 4: thirty pounds in two weeks. Forty pounds maybe.
• 3:39:14
  Speaker 8: And you're doing that while you're also doing like footwork,
• 3:39:18
  Speaker 8: drills and lifting.
• 3:39:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be a hard balance when you're taking
• 3:39:22
  Speaker 4: that many calories. Yeah, but yeah, I would have to do.
• 3:39:26
  Speaker 2: Probably running.
• 3:39:27
  Speaker 4: I think running I would do the most of because, like,
• 3:39:29
  Speaker 4: I'm not as strong as I was, But if I
• 3:39:31
  Speaker 4: had to compete for sixty minutes, conditioning would be a
• 3:39:34
  Speaker 4: huge issue right now, So I would probably do as
• 3:39:36
  Speaker 4: much conditioning as possible. I'd be obviously super rusty too
• 3:39:41
  Speaker 4: pass blocking, but I think I picked that up halfway
• 3:39:43
  Speaker 4: through the second.
• 3:39:44
  Speaker 8: We did a thing with Justin Pugh, me and Dana
• 3:39:48
  Speaker 8: beers had him and he told me that, you know,
• 3:39:51
  Speaker 8: he retired, and then the next year in the playoffs,
• 3:39:55
  Speaker 8: the forty nine ers called him, I think, and we're like, hey,
• 3:39:59
  Speaker 8: we've had some in can you can you come? And
• 3:40:03
  Speaker 8: he was, you know, twenty five thirty pounds under the
• 3:40:06
  Speaker 8: weight that he was playing at. But he he was
• 3:40:10
  Speaker 8: never that big at his position and was just you know,
• 3:40:14
  Speaker 8: kind of quick, and so he was like he was
• 3:40:17
  Speaker 8: able to get there and uh felt like he could
• 3:40:22
  Speaker 8: have gone in and wasn't like that far off. No shit, Yeah,
• 3:40:25
  Speaker 8: so he actually went Yeah, he was on the team.
• 3:40:27
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 3:40:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an interesting question.
• 3:40:30
  Speaker 8: These types of shirts don't flatter me. I look like
• 3:40:33
  Speaker 8: I have man boobs. I don't have man boobs.
• 3:40:36
  Speaker 2: It's all right. I think he looked great, and it
• 3:40:37
  Speaker 2: looks like I think he looked good. There. You obviously
• 3:40:39
  Speaker 2: have thho going on, but I feel like, did he
• 3:40:43
  Speaker 2: hard on?
• 3:40:44
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. These gyms are chilly?
• 3:40:48
  Speaker 2: These are how small is that gym is at the
• 3:40:50
  Speaker 2: smallest gym ever.
• 3:40:51
  Speaker 8: It's just one of those places in New York that's
• 3:40:53
  Speaker 8: for like personal training exclusively got you.
• 3:40:56
  Speaker 2: It was all we could kind of get well.
• 3:40:58
  Speaker 4: What's it like trying to exercise in a place like
• 3:41:01
  Speaker 4: New York Because I walk around there and I'm just
• 3:41:03
  Speaker 4: thinking to myself, there's so much stuff going on, and
• 3:41:05
  Speaker 4: they'll just see a big Planet Fitness in the corner.
• 3:41:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that do you go there or do
• 3:41:09
  Speaker 2: you like do what? The personal things like? I don't
• 3:41:13
  Speaker 2: go to Planet Members. I go to Lifetime.
• 3:41:16
  Speaker 8: It's like in my building, luckily, and I try to
• 3:41:20
  Speaker 8: just go at like off hours.
• 3:41:21
  Speaker 2: Lifetime is a nice spot.
• 3:41:22
  Speaker 8: Lifetime is nice. Yeah, well put together. Yeah, I like
• 3:41:25
  Speaker 8: their I like their situation. Luckily, it's actually included in
• 3:41:30
  Speaker 8: my rent, so I don't even have to.
• 3:41:31
  Speaker 2: Pay for it.
• 3:41:32
  Speaker 4: You were saying while we were at Surviving Barcel that
• 3:41:34
  Speaker 4: you'd like taking your health super seriously. What are the
• 3:41:36
  Speaker 4: things you've changed?
• 3:41:39
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, one of the big things that I've
• 3:41:42
  Speaker 8: really taken up that I enjoy is cooking. And I
• 3:41:46
  Speaker 8: like cooking really clean, really simple, and I find it
• 3:41:52
  Speaker 8: like makes me in the same way that doing laundry.
• 3:41:56
  Speaker 8: I find that these types of like household chores make
• 3:42:01
  Speaker 8: me feel regimented, productive, structured, and like I'm taking care
• 3:42:08
  Speaker 8: of myself. So I like that a lot. Being outside
• 3:42:14
  Speaker 8: being like getting getting out of the city and going
• 3:42:17
  Speaker 8: up to my place up state and just walking in
• 3:42:20
  Speaker 8: the woods. Would not I leave my phone in the car.
• 3:42:23
  Speaker 8: If anyone passes away, I won't be there. But that's
• 3:42:27
  Speaker 8: a risk I'm willing to take for a two hour
• 3:42:30
  Speaker 8: walk through the woods. Yeah, just like listening to the
• 3:42:34
  Speaker 8: fucking wind leaves all that shit and thinking, you know,
• 3:42:39
  Speaker 8: and then yeah, a lot of it is like you know,
• 3:42:44
  Speaker 8: when I catching myself now when spiraling thoughts start and
• 3:42:51
  Speaker 8: realizing like, okay, this thought pattern is not productive. And
• 3:42:57
  Speaker 8: typically before I would just like follow it all the
• 3:43:00
  Speaker 8: way to the bottom, and now I'm like, let's let's
• 3:43:05
  Speaker 8: hit the pause, let's like go in another direction, let's
• 3:43:08
  Speaker 8: recognize what's happening here and make a change.
• 3:43:13
  Speaker 4: How did you, like, obviously you said you follow it
• 3:43:15
  Speaker 4: all of it on the bottom. At what point did
• 3:43:17
  Speaker 4: you realize you would do that? And then how did
• 3:43:19
  Speaker 4: you how do you Essentially, somebody who's listening to this
• 3:43:22
  Speaker 4: podcast right now, they're thinking to themselves, oh, I have
• 3:43:24
  Speaker 4: the same issue. How did you construct a way to
• 3:43:27
  Speaker 4: where you could see yourself heading towards the cliff and
• 3:43:30
  Speaker 4: being able to divert to go a different direction.
• 3:43:32
  Speaker 8: There were I mean, there's a couple of things, you know.
• 3:43:35
  Speaker 8: First of all, therapy, uh two, I finally decided to
• 3:43:41
  Speaker 8: go on medication. I went on well buttrin, which is
• 3:43:44
  Speaker 8: like a pretty common antidepressant. And then I haven't been
• 3:43:51
  Speaker 8: able to really stick with the meditation stuff, but I've
• 3:43:54
  Speaker 8: done a few few things. And one of the things
• 3:43:58
  Speaker 8: I remember taking with me from some of it was
• 3:44:01
  Speaker 8: that you know, negative thoughts and distracted thoughts are gonna
• 3:44:06
  Speaker 8: come through your brain. Don't try to stop them. Don't
• 3:44:11
  Speaker 8: say like, ah, fuck, I've lost focus, I've lost my
• 3:44:15
  Speaker 8: positive energy or whatever. Just let them flow and then
• 3:44:18
  Speaker 8: flow out. Look at it. The analogy they used was like,
• 3:44:23
  Speaker 8: think of the brain waves, or your brain is like
• 3:44:26
  Speaker 8: a road where there's traffic and there's cars driving by,
• 3:44:30
  Speaker 8: and instead of trying to like kick those cars off
• 3:44:33
  Speaker 8: the road, just watch them go by and then reset
• 3:44:37
  Speaker 8: your focus. And it's totally fine being able to like
• 3:44:43
  Speaker 8: recognize the negative thoughts that I was having and not
• 3:44:48
  Speaker 8: be like not giving them so much weight and not
• 3:44:52
  Speaker 8: succumbing to them, but rather just being like, eh, that's no,
• 3:44:57
  Speaker 8: that's not right, that's a that's you know, just something
• 3:45:02
  Speaker 8: I need to like process and and and move on
• 3:45:05
  Speaker 8: from uh. And sometimes I'll even do it out loud
• 3:45:08
  Speaker 8: if I'm alone, which sounds crazy, But if I'm I'm
• 3:45:11
  Speaker 8: like really kind of churning the wheels and just in
• 3:45:14
  Speaker 8: a negative place, I'll just like find myself being like, stop,
• 3:45:19
  Speaker 8: this is bullshit, you know, let's let's go in another direction,
• 3:45:23
  Speaker 8: let's move forward whatever, like think of something positive, you know.
• 3:45:27
  Speaker 8: And just finding that ability to like, uh make quick
• 3:45:34
  Speaker 8: adjustments and like you know, patch up as I say,
• 3:45:37
  Speaker 8: like engine malfunctions is a major step in the right
• 3:45:41
  Speaker 8: direction for me.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I have to go to the bathroom. I had
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  Speaker 8: to piss so bad.
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  Speaker 1: Game time.
• 3:47:07
  Speaker 2: We're good, right, Yeah, dude, I wonder if I wonder
• 3:47:10
  Speaker 2: if Brabe's gonna go to the Patriots. You saw the Jets.
• 3:47:13
  Speaker 2: I saw the Jets interviewed. Yeah, but I don't think
• 3:47:16
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go. Yeah, I want to go
• 3:47:17
  Speaker 2: to the Jets at all. I don't think he will.
• 3:47:19
  Speaker 2: I think he just he hits the interview to let her,
• 3:47:21
  Speaker 2: but I know he's in the circuit. Yeah yeah, are you?
• 3:47:24
  Speaker 2: Are you a ball guy at all?
• 3:47:25
  Speaker 5: You?
• 3:47:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 3:47:26
  Speaker 8: I just let me just I'm going to miss my flight,
• 3:47:29
  Speaker 8: so I'm just going to tell them to rebook me.
• 3:47:31
  Speaker 2: Oh do you need a roll?
• 3:47:33
  Speaker 8: I've missed it, so I don't care. It was worth it.
• 3:47:36
  Speaker 8: It was worth it. Who gives a ship?
• 3:47:37
  Speaker 2: All right? Sorry about that? Yeah, I don't care.
• 3:47:40
  Speaker 4: No company, We're so sorry, We're so sorry.
• 3:47:45
  Speaker 8: Man, Just let me.
• 3:47:47
  Speaker 2: I'm going to miss What time was the flight? Yeah? Yeah,
• 3:47:52
  Speaker 2: what time was it? It's one he can make that.
• 3:47:57
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 3:47:58
  Speaker 8: I don't even want to.
• 3:47:59
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, you make that.
• 3:48:03
  Speaker 8: I'm sure it'll be fine.
• 3:48:04
  Speaker 2: I don't care because he's like, how long are they usually?
• 3:48:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, probably like ninety minutes. But little did
• 3:48:08
  Speaker 2: we know we're gonna have an absolute banger of an episode.
• 3:48:11
  Speaker 8: I'm glad to hear it.
• 3:48:12
  Speaker 4: A bunch of different Twist interns too. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 3:48:14
  Speaker 4: it was honestly awesome hearing all the stories.
• 3:48:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's fun to I mean, it's so weird to
• 3:48:19
  Speaker 8: tell it all that quickly because it makes me realize
• 3:48:24
  Speaker 8: that my time in the at Barstool especially has been
• 3:48:29
  Speaker 8: fucking insane. Yeah, it's been utterly insane. But I wonder
• 3:48:34
  Speaker 8: how many people at this company have a similar story.
• 3:48:39
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, or they're fearing the things that you've been
• 3:48:41
  Speaker 2: through that I watched this and be like, holy fuck true.
• 3:48:44
  Speaker 8: But I just feel like, you know mine, my you know,
• 3:48:47
  Speaker 8: I'm Rhea could could write a book about her journey. Uh, obviously,
• 3:48:52
  Speaker 8: Big Cat, Kevin, My god, I mean there's so many
• 3:48:55
  Speaker 8: like people for whom the last seven eyes years of
• 3:49:00
  Speaker 8: working in this place has been a thousand pages saga.
• 3:49:05
  Speaker 8: It's an odyssey.
• 3:49:06
  Speaker 4: Whenever Dave, Big Cat, and Kevin decide to hang it
• 3:49:10
  Speaker 4: up for real, like not just sheld another company for
• 3:49:12
  Speaker 4: a couple of years and turn it take.
• 3:49:13
  Speaker 2: It all back.
• 3:49:14
  Speaker 4: But if Dave, Dave, Big Cat and Kevin and then
• 3:49:18
  Speaker 4: someone to facilitate the conversation and then just tell the
• 3:49:21
  Speaker 4: story of Barstool and their ins and outs and their things,
• 3:49:24
  Speaker 4: because it'd be interesting, yeah to hear that really funny.
• 3:49:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So before you the episode, you called Dave to
• 3:49:33
  Speaker 8: ask him a question, and I said, what it would
• 3:49:36
  Speaker 8: take for me to call Dave on the phone is
• 3:49:39
  Speaker 8: so bad that like even seeing you do that casually
• 3:49:45
  Speaker 8: is just baffling to me. It's like you have a
• 3:49:47
  Speaker 8: direct line to the Emperor. And my correspondence with Dave
• 3:49:53
  Speaker 8: historically has either been because he's about to fire me,
• 3:49:58
  Speaker 8: I have to tell him something horrible has happened and
• 3:50:00
  Speaker 8: we need to get ahead of it, or like, you know,
• 3:50:03
  Speaker 8: it's not it's like using break in case of emergency
• 3:50:07
  Speaker 8: is how I get on the phone to call Dave.
• 3:50:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 3:50:11
  Speaker 8: With one exception lately, which was during the show, you know,
• 3:50:17
  Speaker 8: they they showed me telling Dave that I had the idol,
• 3:50:21
  Speaker 8: and they omitted a lot of information, which was that
• 3:50:25
  Speaker 8: I did so because I saw that someone had gone
• 3:50:27
  Speaker 8: through my bag and I was consulting with him to
• 3:50:31
  Speaker 8: ask him about it, and I blogged about this and
• 3:50:34
  Speaker 8: then Dave agreed and was very kind of vocal about it,
• 3:50:38
  Speaker 8: and he was like, I don't know why they didn't
• 3:50:40
  Speaker 8: include that, and he started texting me about it, and
• 3:50:44
  Speaker 8: he was like texting me a lot, and he sent
• 3:50:47
  Speaker 8: more text to me about this and being like he
• 3:50:49
  Speaker 8: was texting me as if he was like my buddy
• 3:50:52
  Speaker 8: and being like, yeah, I don't know why they didn't
• 3:50:54
  Speaker 8: include that I thought that was a pretty good angle.
• 3:50:56
  Speaker 8: I mean, the fact that you, you know, gave me
• 3:50:58
  Speaker 8: the idol is like an important piece of the show
• 3:50:59
  Speaker 8: and this made you look kind of stupid, which I
• 3:51:01
  Speaker 8: didn't agree with. And then he's like, what do you
• 3:51:03
  Speaker 8: think of this? Like that got that?
• 3:51:04
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what's happening right now?
• 3:51:08
  Speaker 8: Like are you? Are you about to fire me? And
• 3:51:12
  Speaker 8: and you know, I was like trying to just hold
• 3:51:15
  Speaker 8: it together and text him back, and it was he
• 3:51:17
  Speaker 8: sent me more texts in that exchange than we have
• 3:51:20
  Speaker 8: ever texted each other total in the seven years that
• 3:51:23
  Speaker 8: I've known him.
• 3:51:23
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• 3:51:28
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  Speaker 2: the question do you have? What do the second one? Do?
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  Speaker 2: The second one? Well, his voice is awesome. I hadn't
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  Speaker 2: heard it. Do you want me to do the second
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  Speaker 2: Which one?
• 3:52:23
  Speaker 1: Would you rather play a villain that dies and win
• 3:52:26
  Speaker 1: an oscar for the performance or a hero and never
• 3:52:30
  Speaker 1: win an oscar but have a trilogy as that character?
• 3:52:34
  Speaker 8: Is this to me?
• 3:52:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for all of us, the trilogy really throws us
• 3:52:41
  Speaker 2: off because it was super easy until you got to
• 3:52:43
  Speaker 2: the trilogy.
• 3:52:44
  Speaker 4: See I don't think it, don't I don't think so.
• 3:52:46
  Speaker 4: Not for me. That's a villain win an oscar all
• 3:52:49
  Speaker 4: the way. The amount of opportunity that comes from that,
• 3:52:52
  Speaker 4: the ability to do things. Then after that, maybe you
• 3:52:54
  Speaker 4: become a hero, do something else. But to have an
• 3:52:57
  Speaker 4: Oscar in your hand, on your shelf and to achieve
• 3:52:59
  Speaker 4: a one sent of one percent thing in the acting world,
• 3:53:02
  Speaker 4: is that's it?
• 3:53:04
  Speaker 2: That's the answer, yeah, but a trilogy, Yeah, but you Yeah,
• 3:53:07
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 3:53:08
  Speaker 8: The implication here is that if you if you do
• 3:53:10
  Speaker 8: have a trilogy as a superhero, you're making oodles of money,
• 3:53:13
  Speaker 8: and that I guess we'd have to assume playing one
• 3:53:15
  Speaker 8: role as a villain winning an oscar. Maybe it's like
• 3:53:18
  Speaker 8: or of an indie film. I think I think we
• 3:53:20
  Speaker 8: should take a license to like divide the two and
• 3:53:22
  Speaker 8: say that the villain role does not come with the
• 3:53:24
  Speaker 8: lifetime fuck you money that the trilogy does.
• 3:53:26
  Speaker 4: Right, all right, Yeah, that's a great pivot because I'm
• 3:53:28
  Speaker 4: gonna go with the trilogy hero.
• 3:53:31
  Speaker 8: Yes, clear, there you go.
• 3:53:33
  Speaker 2: It's never been more clear to there you go. Even
• 3:53:34
  Speaker 2: before you say that. No, I don't think so. I
• 3:53:36
  Speaker 2: think it is super easy villains Oscar.
• 3:53:38
  Speaker 4: Performance nuts because yeah, I wasn't aware of the indie thing.
• 3:53:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, it doesn't necessarily have to be an indie.
• 3:53:50
  Speaker 8: But like that, to me more more interestingly kind of
• 3:53:55
  Speaker 8: bifurcates the question, So come on, what's you motherfucker did
• 3:54:00
  Speaker 8: for a little bit with those words, bifer Kate is like,
• 3:54:02
  Speaker 8: I think divides it into like two more different options.
• 3:54:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, divide into two branches or forks, you almost nail that.
• 3:54:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's because I want to, like I want to,
• 3:54:15
  Speaker 8: I want to make this harder. Do you know what
• 3:54:18
  Speaker 8: I mean? Because if you're saying, like, you win an
• 3:54:21
  Speaker 8: Oscar as a villain, but the movie grosses a billion
• 3:54:25
  Speaker 8: dollars and you make forty million bucks from that, versus
• 3:54:29
  Speaker 8: playing a trilogy no Oscar, but you make I don't know,
• 3:54:33
  Speaker 8: one hundred million more money, I guess.
• 3:54:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if you're considered Captain America forever.
• 3:54:37
  Speaker 8: It's like, I think the answer is obviously the villain
• 3:54:39
  Speaker 8: because you get the money and you get the respect. Yeah,
• 3:54:42
  Speaker 8: but if it's an indie film, you make five hundred grand,
• 3:54:46
  Speaker 8: but you get an Oscar versus you know, John Wick
• 3:54:50
  Speaker 8: or Captain America or whatever.
• 3:54:54
  Speaker 2: Jason Bourne.
• 3:54:55
  Speaker 8: I don't know that winning an Oscar necessarily lends or
• 3:54:58
  Speaker 8: leads to gigantic film options and success the way that
• 3:55:04
  Speaker 8: maybe it once did, because there's people winning Oscars now
• 3:55:08
  Speaker 8: who you never even fucking heard of, you know.
• 3:55:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the Oscar.
• 3:55:11
  Speaker 4: Are you saying the water down market for the Oscar.
• 3:55:13
  Speaker 8: Well, not so much. I still I think it still
• 3:55:15
  Speaker 8: carries the same cachet and is very well respected and
• 3:55:19
  Speaker 8: is Baller. Having it on your shelf is sick. But
• 3:55:22
  Speaker 8: is it sick if it's on a shelf of a
• 3:55:24
  Speaker 8: split level ranch house in a shitty neighborhood.
• 3:55:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that would be wild. You give me the trilogy?
• 3:55:36
  Speaker 2: What are you taking, Francis, it's hard. Yeah. I think
• 3:55:39
  Speaker 2: in just a sake of making movies, like taking out
• 3:55:41
  Speaker 2: the fame and the money with it. I just feel
• 3:55:43
  Speaker 2: like having a trilogy would be sick.
• 3:55:46
  Speaker 4: I mean you got to think about the career too, Like, okay,
• 3:55:49
  Speaker 4: take the money part out. Let's say you win an
• 3:55:50
  Speaker 4: Oscar the that's the pinnacle right of that best actor Oscar.
• 3:55:56
  Speaker 4: If you have the trilogy and you want to continue
• 3:55:57
  Speaker 4: your acting career, there's that worry that you might forever
• 3:56:01
  Speaker 4: be just seen as.
• 3:56:02
  Speaker 2: Batman if that's what you care about. But if I'm
• 3:56:05
  Speaker 2: seeing as Batman and I love.
• 3:56:07
  Speaker 4: Him, what I kind of said, I was thinking to myself,
• 3:56:08
  Speaker 4: it's not a bad thing to be thought of as Batman.
• 3:56:10
  Speaker 4: As soon as Batman came out of my mouth, I
• 3:56:11
  Speaker 4: was like, fuck, that's everywhere you go to Batman.
• 3:56:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just say, oh, will come the King, say
• 3:56:17
  Speaker 2: that line? Why do you want to kill me?
• 3:56:19
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, he fucking does it. It's how good
• 3:56:21
  Speaker 4: of an actor he is. I can't believe he didn't
• 3:56:23
  Speaker 4: win an Oscar.
• 3:56:24
  Speaker 8: Would you rather be Vin Diesel or you know Adrian Brody?
• 3:56:32
  Speaker 2: Who's Adrian? Who's Adrian?
• 3:56:33
  Speaker 8: He won for the Pianist. He's okay, this guy, he's
• 3:56:37
  Speaker 8: always kind of like this, sad sort of.
• 3:56:41
  Speaker 4: I'd rather be him.
• 3:56:43
  Speaker 8: Interesting. You'd have to know that Vin Diesel, thanks to
• 3:56:47
  Speaker 8: making Fast four hundred is just barely has to work,
• 3:56:53
  Speaker 8: and like.
• 3:56:53
  Speaker 2: He has to, he doesn't have to.
• 3:56:54
  Speaker 8: He doesn't doesn't have to work, but like he doesn't
• 3:56:56
  Speaker 8: even need to read scripts. He knows his next job
• 3:56:59
  Speaker 8: is the next Fast movie and then after that another Fast.
• 3:57:03
  Speaker 4: I think your example of the two actors one I've
• 3:57:06
  Speaker 4: seen The Pianist. I think it's a great movie. It
• 3:57:09
  Speaker 4: is I didn't know who that guy was. And I
• 3:57:11
  Speaker 4: kind of like the uh, the multiple the multiple dimensions
• 3:57:15
  Speaker 4: of an actor of like having like range.
• 3:57:16
  Speaker 2: I think that's so cool.
• 3:57:18
  Speaker 4: Vin Diesel.
• 3:57:20
  Speaker 2: I don't like Fasting nothing, but I think the Fast
• 3:57:23
  Speaker 2: and Fierce movies are terrible, terrible, every single one.
• 3:57:25
  Speaker 4: When I saw you didn't like when I saw when
• 3:57:28
  Speaker 4: I saw somebody I don't remember which one it was
• 3:57:31
  Speaker 4: going a head on head collision, fly through the air,
• 3:57:34
  Speaker 4: across the whole entire highway land on another car, and
• 3:57:37
  Speaker 4: then go like this and kept well sure, I was
• 3:57:41
  Speaker 4: like this ship, it's not for me. It never sparked
• 3:57:43
  Speaker 4: my interest. I was never about it, right, So, based
• 3:57:46
  Speaker 4: on those two actors, I'd rather the guy I can't
• 3:57:48
  Speaker 4: remember his name already.
• 3:57:49
  Speaker 8: Adrian Brody. I don't even think well, Heath Ledger, I
• 3:57:52
  Speaker 8: don't think. I don't think you can add Heath Fledger
• 3:57:54
  Speaker 8: to the other side, because Heath Ledger has had you know,
• 3:57:57
  Speaker 8: Indie Oscar success, but he's also had major blockbus for success.
• 3:58:01
  Speaker 8: And to that same thought, I don't think you can
• 3:58:03
  Speaker 8: add Christian Bale, who you could argue is an incredibly versatile,
• 3:58:07
  Speaker 8: role changing, shifting actor who's able to dive into completely
• 3:58:11
  Speaker 8: different roles and be nominated for an Oscar every year. However,
• 3:58:14
  Speaker 8: he had the trilogy as Batman, which grows him tons
• 3:58:17
  Speaker 8: of money.
• 3:58:18
  Speaker 2: True. True, But for our simple brains, if you just
• 3:58:22
  Speaker 2: if we're just talking Batman, would you want to be
• 3:58:25
  Speaker 2: Christian Bale or would you want to be Heath Ledger.
• 3:58:28
  Speaker 2: I'd rather be Heath Ledger. Well, without dying.
• 3:58:30
  Speaker 8: He's dead.
• 3:58:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, do I have to die? Yeah? But this is
• 3:58:33
  Speaker 2: the only movies we make. You're in one, if you're
• 3:58:36
  Speaker 2: Heath Ledger, I would rather be Chriet. Yeah.
• 3:58:38
  Speaker 4: But but the one I'm in, everyone's like, that's the
• 3:58:41
  Speaker 4: best one because of the villain.
• 3:58:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but the others are still pretty fucking.
• 3:58:45
  Speaker 4: Good, no doubt, no doubt that is that.
• 3:58:49
  Speaker 8: I think this is a great distillation of the question.
• 3:58:53
  Speaker 8: I think this is an unbelievable we know, just boiling
• 3:58:58
  Speaker 8: it down. We've boiled it down to a perfect example
• 3:59:01
  Speaker 8: kind of I'll let.
• 3:59:02
  Speaker 2: You know what the definition. So who would you rather be? I? I, oh, yeah, yeah,
• 3:59:13
  Speaker 2: you've you've nailed it.
• 3:59:15
  Speaker 8: Boiled it down. I said, yeah. So, by wait, I'm
• 3:59:19
  Speaker 8: never gonna get one of these words wrong, So we
• 3:59:21
  Speaker 8: don't have to do this. You're just gonna have to
• 3:59:27
  Speaker 8: trust that I have it.
• 3:59:28
  Speaker 4: Right, literally, a confidence thing like that.
• 3:59:31
  Speaker 2: I actually just trust you. Now, if you want again,
• 3:59:35
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you and we don't need to double check.
• 3:59:38
  Speaker 5: Fair enough.
• 3:59:38
  Speaker 4: That was so fucking stupid to me. I'll never do
• 3:59:41
  Speaker 4: that again. By the way, I'll never get one of
• 3:59:44
  Speaker 4: these wrong.
• 3:59:45
  Speaker 2: Would you rather have this?
• 3:59:47
  Speaker 8: This is hard? This is hard?
• 3:59:51
  Speaker 2: Great twisted question, Mitch, I would say, I would say that.
• 4:00:00
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna go Heath Ledger. And I think it's because
• 4:00:04
  Speaker 8: nobody really says the Batman movies were great because of
• 4:00:10
  Speaker 8: how well Christian Bale played Batman. The Batman movies were
• 4:00:14
  Speaker 8: great because of how well Christian Bale acted in that role.
• 4:00:18
  Speaker 8: That's not really what people say.
• 4:00:20
  Speaker 4: The movies are great, and he does well in the.
• 4:00:22
  Speaker 8: He does great, but there may have been other actors
• 4:00:25
  Speaker 8: who would have serviced that role. Well, no, not him,
• 4:00:32
  Speaker 8: But there's a reason they also keep rebooting Batman and
• 4:00:34
  Speaker 8: like Robert Pattinson did a different take of it but
• 4:00:37
  Speaker 8: was great. I think. I think the reason that the
• 4:00:42
  Speaker 8: that trilogy of you know, the Dark Knight, Dark Knight
• 4:00:46
  Speaker 8: rises and Batman begins, the credit often goes to the
• 4:00:51
  Speaker 8: director and the villains and then like you know, Michael
• 4:00:59
  Speaker 8: Caine and the yeah, the music. It's like, uh, Christopher Nolan,
• 4:01:03
  Speaker 8: that it tends to be the people around Christian Bale
• 4:01:07
  Speaker 8: more than him.
• 4:01:10
  Speaker 2: True leader.
• 4:01:10
  Speaker 6: Let everybody up around him. Yeahed of all the actors'
• 4:01:15
  Speaker 6: careers you see right now, whose career would you want?
• 4:01:20
  Speaker 8: It's hard not to say Christian Bale because he's had
• 4:01:23
  Speaker 8: the blockbuster success while also being an incredibly respected actor
• 4:01:27
  Speaker 8: for his nuance in craft.
• 4:01:29
  Speaker 4: You know, I think is going to be like one
• 4:01:32
  Speaker 4: of those actors you I wish I had his career,
• 4:01:33
  Speaker 4: if I could pick a career to have eventually, Timothy Shallamane, Yeah, dude, great,
• 4:01:40
  Speaker 4: he is a stunt. I mean it wasn't didn't really
• 4:01:43
  Speaker 4: watch to do but.
• 4:01:44
  Speaker 2: I loved Wonka.
• 4:01:44
  Speaker 8: You didn't watch Doone.
• 4:01:46
  Speaker 2: I loved Wonka.
• 4:01:47
  Speaker 8: You can watch Doom.
• 4:01:48
  Speaker 4: And I saw him on College get I saw him
• 4:01:50
  Speaker 4: on College game Day and I was like, this kid's
• 4:01:52
  Speaker 4: crushing it. And then I saw him on Theo's Pod
• 4:01:54
  Speaker 4: and I was like, bro, No, his approach, Bro, his
• 4:01:57
  Speaker 4: approach is insane.
• 4:01:58
  Speaker 8: If you like him, now your your adulation of him
• 4:02:04
  Speaker 8: after seeing.
• 4:02:07
  Speaker 4: No, No, don't do that. Just have to have him tell.
• 4:02:09
  Speaker 8: Adulation is reverence. It's you know, praise and deep.
• 4:02:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, excessive admiration, praise there it is
• 4:02:18
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 4:02:19
  Speaker 4: You got no, you got one of the words right
• 4:02:21
  Speaker 4: that time. He's actually kind of gotten worse each time.
• 4:02:25
  Speaker 8: I'm taking full credit for that. Reverence is like praise
• 4:02:29
  Speaker 8: all that I mean, the word that I use.
• 4:02:33
  Speaker 4: I said, Chelamagne and I've seen one and a half.
• 4:02:36
  Speaker 2: Of his movies and uh yeah, I funk with him. Dude.
• 4:02:41
  Speaker 2: Him on College Game Day was so impressive to me.
• 4:02:44
  Speaker 2: He's talking about college game Day and then him on
• 4:02:46
  Speaker 2: the spot.
• 4:02:47
  Speaker 4: Have you seen on Theo's podcast the way he just
• 4:02:50
  Speaker 4: talks about his process and how he's gonna do everything
• 4:02:52
  Speaker 4: the best he can.
• 4:02:53
  Speaker 8: He is a very weird cadence of talking that I
• 4:02:57
  Speaker 8: find compelling. Yeah, you don't, you don't even feel you
• 4:03:00
  Speaker 8: have no idea what he's gonna say next. And I
• 4:03:04
  Speaker 8: was gonna say, if you have not seen Dune and
• 4:03:07
  Speaker 8: you like him, now you you're gonna ten x that
• 4:03:11
  Speaker 8: after Dune. Both of them. I think both Dunes are
• 4:03:16
  Speaker 8: best movies I've seen.
• 4:03:18
  Speaker 7: He was blessed by.
• 4:03:21
  Speaker 2: His success to it than.
• 4:03:25
  Speaker 8: I love Tom Holland. I do love Tom Holland. There's
• 4:03:30
  Speaker 8: there's something about when he when he does interviews and
• 4:03:33
  Speaker 8: you hear his British accent where you're like, what he's
• 4:03:39
  Speaker 8: that's awesome.
• 4:03:41
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 4:03:42
  Speaker 8: I like their relationship. He's shorter than she is. He
• 4:03:45
  Speaker 8: doesn't care beautiful shorting.
• 4:03:48
  Speaker 2: It works.
• 4:03:49
  Speaker 4: Also, I love like the little clips of him, just
• 4:03:51
  Speaker 4: like kind of giving away spoilers on like Instagram lives
• 4:03:54
  Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Like his innocence about him is beautiful.
• 4:03:57
  Speaker 8: I do love that he as have walked away from
• 4:03:59
  Speaker 8: the game for like two years, just was like, I'm
• 4:04:02
  Speaker 8: not in a place where I want to do this
• 4:04:04
  Speaker 8: right now. And he plays a ton of golf. He's
• 4:04:06
  Speaker 8: really good at it. Charming, boyish, boyish. Love him. Who's
• 4:04:13
  Speaker 8: that guy, Jake Jillenhall. He is incredible, He's amazing.
• 4:04:17
  Speaker 4: I like him, A great career, prisoner, phenomenal.
• 4:04:20
  Speaker 2: Movie haunting, almost tough to get through. Have kids. Yeah,
• 4:04:26
  Speaker 2: you will not ever want to watch that movie again.
• 4:04:28
  Speaker 2: But he is so fucking that kid's good too.
• 4:04:31
  Speaker 8: He did that one and then he did the one.
• 4:04:32
  Speaker 8: Uh I can't remember the name of it, but where
• 4:04:34
  Speaker 8: he was like the murder detective who would show up
• 4:04:37
  Speaker 8: to film.
• 4:04:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, Nightcrawler.
• 4:04:41
  Speaker 4: No, I did not name. I didn't like that name.
• 4:04:45
  Speaker 2: That's a good one too, explain to me. Let me
• 4:04:48
  Speaker 2: think of seven though, Yeah, yeah, it Seven's amazing.
• 4:04:53
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 4:04:53
  Speaker 8: Nightcrawler is him being a little bit more like he's
• 4:04:58
  Speaker 8: succumbing to ticks he's got. There's more of like a
• 4:05:02
  Speaker 8: off putting acting in it. But it is him as
• 4:05:05
  Speaker 8: driven and as like possessed as he is?
• 4:05:08
  Speaker 2: And uh, what was the series on Apple? Plus he
• 4:05:10
  Speaker 2: just did presumed Innisce.
• 4:05:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, pretty good. I would give that a B plus.
• 4:05:15
  Speaker 8: I didn't love it. Oh, I don't like the ending. No,
• 4:05:19
  Speaker 8: I actually thought the ending I didn't see coming was good.
• 4:05:22
  Speaker 8: I just thought, you know, would she really fucking stand
• 4:05:26
  Speaker 8: by him through all this? Are you kidding me? You
• 4:05:30
  Speaker 8: know he's being like, I haven't seen it. Oh, yeah,
• 4:05:34
  Speaker 8: good show.
• 4:05:35
  Speaker 5: There was.
• 4:05:35
  Speaker 4: Plus, there was seems like the way in the way
• 4:05:38
  Speaker 4: he speaks, like you know, he's got high standards of Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 4:05:42
  Speaker 4: what's Titanic?
• 4:05:44
  Speaker 8: What's my take on it?
• 4:05:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 4:05:45
  Speaker 8: Love it?
• 4:05:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, good, just making sure.
• 4:05:47
  Speaker 8: I haven't seen it in a while, but yeah, love it.
• 4:05:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't want you to be the guy that has
• 4:05:51
  Speaker 4: like there's like wildly loved movies but you're like it's
• 4:05:54
  Speaker 4: actually garbage.
• 4:05:55
  Speaker 8: No, No, I thought, I mean I iconic, genre changing,
• 4:05:59
  Speaker 8: you know, beautiful movie.
• 4:06:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to have that kind of love.
• 4:06:04
  Speaker 8: It's also it's also the last movie where Leo has
• 4:06:10
  Speaker 8: that kind of like innocent, youthful look where his like
• 4:06:18
  Speaker 8: his bangs are feathered and he's got this wispy hair,
• 4:06:22
  Speaker 8: and then he goes and starts doing all the dark
• 4:06:24
  Speaker 8: shit like the Departed Gangs of New York, and all
• 4:06:27
  Speaker 8: of a sudden he seems to like age ten years overnight.
• 4:06:30
  Speaker 2: Look up a Leonardo DiCaprio The Quick in the Dead.
• 4:06:34
  Speaker 4: I think this is a movie he did either right
• 4:06:35
  Speaker 4: before and right after Titanic.
• 4:06:37
  Speaker 2: I don't mind the newer Leo, the more like grizzled.
• 4:06:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there you go.
• 4:06:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like a sweet sweet boy, sweet sweet
• 4:06:45
  Speaker 2: boy with a six shooter in his hand, delivers papers
• 4:06:48
  Speaker 2: on the side. Just believe the kid right now, Kid
• 4:06:49
  Speaker 2: of the Dream. Yeah, it's it great. Have you seen
• 4:06:52
  Speaker 2: this movie? No, phenomenal movie. What's it called? The Quick
• 4:06:55
  Speaker 2: in the Dead? Very good? October? I've never seen it.
• 4:07:00
  Speaker 2: We never heard of October.
• 4:07:01
  Speaker 8: You see the Basketball Diaries? No, oh my god, that's Leo.
• 4:07:06
  Speaker 8: That's a fucked up movie. This is Jillenhall as a boy.
• 4:07:10
  Speaker 8: They launch rockets in a mining town. His father wants
• 4:07:14
  Speaker 8: him to come down into the mines, get his head
• 4:07:16
  Speaker 8: on straight, but he says, I have dreams, dreams of
• 4:07:21
  Speaker 8: launching model rockets.
• 4:07:23
  Speaker 2: How's it work out from.
• 4:07:25
  Speaker 8: Well, Finally, his father says I in the similar way
• 4:07:28
  Speaker 8: to Billy Elliott's father seeing the light, he says, Okay,
• 4:07:32
  Speaker 8: I get it now, I get it now, I see
• 4:07:35
  Speaker 8: that this is who you truly are. Was that actor's
• 4:07:37
  Speaker 8: named Gary something? You see the guy on the left.
• 4:07:42
  Speaker 4: So we do this thing called bustings right, and uh, yeah, hey,
• 4:07:50
  Speaker 4: Bray's out functioned one hundred percent. And JP will do
• 4:07:53
  Speaker 4: this thing where he like shows us athletes of different
• 4:07:56
  Speaker 4: sports besides football players. And then last week he did
• 4:07:59
  Speaker 4: actors on us and we did horribly.
• 4:08:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a tough showing. I got Russell Crowe.
• 4:08:05
  Speaker 2: Eventually we had to play some wheel of fortune. Play
• 4:08:08
  Speaker 2: some wheel of fortune. Nice.
• 4:08:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we got them.
• 4:08:13
  Speaker 8: It makes sense.
• 4:08:14
  Speaker 4: We definitely got them. All right, Well, how we feel.
• 4:08:17
  Speaker 4: It's been a great, great show. Thank you, Thank you
• 4:08:20
  Speaker 4: for missing your flight for us.
• 4:08:22
  Speaker 8: Nothing could make me happier. This is a blast. I
• 4:08:25
  Speaker 8: I this is I was really excited to do this show.
• 4:08:29
  Speaker 8: Thank you, and uh it lived up to my hopes
• 4:08:32
  Speaker 8: and dreams.
• 4:08:33
  Speaker 2: So we had a nice dinner last night.
• 4:08:34
  Speaker 8: We did.
• 4:08:35
  Speaker 2: We tried hanging out, but Rue just no, we just
• 4:08:38
  Speaker 2: stole Francis the entire time. She was being very selfish
• 4:08:41
  Speaker 2: that's what we want. Was like. I was like, hey,
• 4:08:43
  Speaker 2: France is going to come over for dinner, and I've
• 4:08:45
  Speaker 2: gotten charge on like some of his blogs and Charle
• 4:08:47
  Speaker 2: thinks he's funny.
• 4:08:48
  Speaker 8: And she was like that is generous and wrong. She
• 4:08:52
  Speaker 8: was like, I don't care about anything.
• 4:08:54
  Speaker 2: She was talking about the barstool world and yeah, but
• 4:08:56
  Speaker 2: you she she mentioned reading your blogs.
• 4:08:59
  Speaker 8: I think this. You were like, she read the blog
• 4:09:01
  Speaker 8: and liked it more, and she was like, eh.
• 4:09:04
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. But she was like, maybe Francis will
• 4:09:06
  Speaker 2: play scrabble with me, because I never played with her,
• 4:09:08
  Speaker 2: because it's like I'm never gonna win in scrabble against Charrow.
• 4:09:12
  Speaker 2: But we can't play scrabble because Rue wants to play
• 4:09:14
  Speaker 2: Pretty Little Princess. So we're just playing Pretty Little Princess
• 4:09:17
  Speaker 2: before he leaves.
• 4:09:18
  Speaker 8: It was really fun. I got really close to winning
• 4:09:21
  Speaker 8: and then the game got away from me. I kept
• 4:09:24
  Speaker 8: I had to give the ring, the Mystery ring back,
• 4:09:26
  Speaker 8: she took the crown from me. Yeah, it was kind
• 4:09:29
  Speaker 8: of bullshit. It felt like somehow she had rigged it,
• 4:09:33
  Speaker 8: like she knew how to spin the wheel to actually
• 4:09:36
  Speaker 8: have it land on exactly what she needed. But that
• 4:09:39
  Speaker 8: takes a lot away from her. I mean she she
• 4:09:41
  Speaker 8: played well, she played well, she played a good ball game.
• 4:09:43
  Speaker 8: She played well.
• 4:09:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got away from me. That's awesome.
• 4:09:46
  Speaker 4: I glad you just had a great dinner together because
• 4:09:47
  Speaker 4: I didn't hear about to this afternoon. I'm glad you
• 4:09:50
  Speaker 4: had fun.
• 4:09:50
  Speaker 2: Man. That's it. A beautiful time. Huh, good time for
• 4:09:58
  Speaker 2: some reason that was coming. You still do it every time?
• 4:10:03
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
• 4:10:06
  Speaker 4: Relax man, Yeah, you're good.
• 4:10:11
  Speaker 8: This is great. Yeah, thank you guys. Watch Surviving Barstool
• 4:10:15
  Speaker 8: this week is going to be unbelievable.
• 4:10:17
  Speaker 4: Oh I got a text from Jeff I do die today?
• 4:10:19
  Speaker 8: Oh great?
• 4:10:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah about all that.
• 4:10:22
  Speaker 8: So then what I would say is you should put
• 4:10:25
  Speaker 8: a spoiler alert at the beginning of this episode. Be like,
• 4:10:28
  Speaker 8: we're going to talk about surviving Barschool, and if you
• 4:10:31
  Speaker 8: have not watched today's episode, you should wait to listen
• 4:10:35
  Speaker 8: to this episode until you watched it.
• 4:10:36
  Speaker 2: If you care. Smart move, smart move, smart move. We
• 4:10:42
  Speaker 2: would have got to overthinking it. Do this, we do that,
• 4:10:46
  Speaker 2: We'll just do it in the intro.
• 4:10:48
  Speaker 4: Well, we're probably not gonna put in this in so
• 4:10:49
  Speaker 4: big hugs, any kisses. We'll see you guys next time.
• 4:10:52
  Speaker 4: Appreciate y'all Friant Yeah, thank you guys,